Open Forum: January 13, 2018

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  1. André M.

    Sadly, during the last 12 months only 2 new Liberty Quotes were added to the quote database.

    #517: “Australia doesn’t have a revenue problem, it has a vote-buying expenditure problem.”

    #518: “My golden rule for Liberal and National party politicians is that if they are pleasing the press gallery — especially Fairfax and ABC journalists — they will invariably be doing the wrong thing by their party and constituency.”

    Is this lack of quotable productivity because libertarians floundered in the face of poor odds or is it because conservatives are a dying breed?

  2. Top Ender

    But what about all those rock and pop stars from the last fifty years?

    Over the last few years I have read the biographies of Warren Zevon, Mick Fleetwood, and Led Zeppelin (as a group) amongst others.

    The amount of women throwing themselves at them was phenomenal.

  3. jupes

    I worry about hippos and rhinos.

    Seriously?

  4. overburdened

    Time ti give up on news.com. There is no news. I now have http://www.straitstimes.com/asia as my home page but that’s just me. I don’t care what others do

  5. overburdened

    to for Christ’s sake. #fatfingers

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ask the relatives of Justine Damond how they feel about the impact of community outreach on police hiring.

    Well said. Police and military are two organizations that are NOT there to act as an experiment in social engineering.

  7. overburdened

    jupes
    only when on site

  8. Oh come on

    Porn stars voice their disgust at being regarded as sex objects.

    Prostitutes rail against “degrading” assumptions that their primary purpose is to trade sex for money.

  9. Geriatric Mayfly

    but if you stand up in the jeep, showing you have two legs, you become lunch.

    Been warned many times Zulu. Amazing how legs excite the salivary glands of lions, and yet have a stimulating effect of an entirely different nature on other mammals. Must admit I have taken several walking safaris in Africa, and run unexpectedly into lions. They have all scampered off, bar one who held its ground and issued forth ominous guttural noises, which in translation meant POQ. Which was taken at face value.

  10. Oh come on

    Hitman asserts society should regard his willingness to kill strangers for cash in the context of his multi-faceted personality.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The immortal Warren Zevon.

  12. Zyconoclast

    California in revolt: how the progressive state plans to foil the Trump agenda
    State leaders have pushed legislation and lawsuits to circumvent and undo Trump’s agenda on immigration, the environment, internet freedom and other liberal causes. One of the most consequential victories came Tuesday when a judge in San Francisco blocked the Trump administration’s plan to end a program that allows 800,000 undocumented people to study and work in the US

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/11/california-resistance-trump-cannabis-immigration-environment

  13. overburdened

    The issue is that if all the punters are inside the unit then the lions don’t see them, only the unit which is too big for them to take on. Sheesh. Surely it can’t be that hard, but boganism will take you where you don’t want to be.

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Must admit I have taken several walking safaris in Africa, and run unexpectedly into lions. They have all scampered off, bar one who held its ground and issued forth ominous guttural noises, which in translation meant POQ. Which was taken at face value.

    Game Park outside Cape Town a few years ago. The sign at the front gate read “Please remain in your vehicles at all times with the windows wound up.” A group of tourists decided to stop, and have a picnic. Two of them were killed by lions, and the rest were most upset when the park owners wouldn’t destroy the rest of the lions.

  15. JC

    overburdened
    #2609193, posted on January 13, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/two-aussie-porn-stars-speak-about-pressures-in-the-industry-after-four-colleagues-die-in-three-months/news-story/41f9002a1303fb92f35b785757a2292d
    Please sad porn stars. No one that watches your mutt or arse gives a flying F about how you feel. You choose to do what you do and take money.

    There was a link there to a piece about a porn star who was found dead. Some of the comments below the story are funny in a sick sort of way.

    Jason Bryan
    You helped relieve millions of boners, may you find that same relief …

    and

    Charles Gladue
    That sucks

  16. Zyconoclast

    This may be of interest to Victoriastan.

    Between February and November 2016, the Institute of Medical Microbiology at the University of Zurich discovered a multidrug-resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis in eight refugees arriving in Europe from the Horn of Africa. The analyses provided an impulse for launching a transnational investigation and developing a pan-European alerting system.

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-01/uoz-cor010918.php

  17. overburdened

    Hey JC as according to the code of the unknown samurai, I have no principles, I make constant adaptation to ever changing rules my principle; so therefore how can people that do what they do for individual gain have a right to complain about their circumstances? Just asking. If I wanted to I could say, ‘for a friend’ but hey.

  18. Zyconoclast

    For all that cheer on Amazon/Bozos

    Amazon chief Jeff Bezos jumps into immigration debate with $42m donation to scholarship fund for ‘dreamers’

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/amazon-chief-jeff-bezos-jumps-into-immigration-debate-with-42m-donation-to-scholarship-fund-for-dreamers-20180112-h0hsjp.html

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    JC
    #2609207, posted on January 13, 2018 at 11:45 pm

    JC, what’s happening to you? There’s been no posts containing your usual level of lies, defamation, slander and snark for over some time now. RUOK? Just asking.

  20. Mindfree

    OK lets get the party started – one of the best

  21. Oh come on

    From Insty, what America First looks like:

    Fiat Chrysler will move Ram production to Michigan from Mexico.

    Sorry about that, shithole country.

  22. Oh come on

    Zulu, your trolling is almost as bad as Grigs’s.

  23. Mindfree

    Talented Brit from the seventies

  24. overburdened

    I an actively pursuing my retirement in NE Malaysia. Downside- not ETOH in Johor Bahru generally. Upside no disorder/ cheaper travel re Aus$ to places of attachment. Beautiful place if you can be wallpaper

  25. JC

    Ronery
    The only amusing comments you post are the ones where you try to sound assertive and tough.

    I was hoping you’d be on Facebook by now.

  26. Jimf

    Did anyone else guffaw through Mike’s sister Julia’s piece in the SMH today? It set new levels of self praising ,indulgent drivel. Paraphrasing her “me too” moment here : “ I was also discriminated against as a writer because I was exceptionally smart and good looking. An older white guy tried to give me career advice but I could tell at the time he didn’t see my greatness and was also old school ”. Apart from being a flaky boring piece of trivial drivel, the unashamed smug love of self from Julia Baird in this column was hilarious.People like her and the boy wonder brother are the most loathsome of all in that they actually believe in their own exceptionalism.yawn..

  27. Mindfree

    When they were friends

  28. JC

    Oh come on
    #2609217, posted on January 14, 2018 at 12:01 am

    Zulu, your trolling is almost as bad as Grigs’s.

    Sad isn’t it. A quick scan back shows he’s been here all day – abusing groogley and facebooking. He’s now drunk , like every night- gets a head of steam to sound assertive. What a pitiful existence.

  29. Oh come on

    Drudge notes the MSM’s head has exploded over Trump’s alleged shithole comments:

    MEDIA MELTDOWN OVER TRUMP’S S-WORD: ‘NAZI,’ ‘EVIL,’ ‘KKK,’ ‘TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER’

    Gotta say that it would be great for the Trump admin to send out a bunch of agent provocateurs to act as those ‘anonymous sources’ and feed the most outlandish bullshit to the media, which will of course be uncritically reported…then the rug can be pulled out from underneath the MSM by exposing their reporting of a pack of lies as news.

  30. Knuckle Dragger

    Mick GC, 11.16:

    Spot on, but there’s more.

    Over the years VicPol have loudly proclaimed their insistence for recruiting certain minorities. There have been a few Muslims that do a really good job, and lots of Asians. I did quite a lot of training with a full blood indigenous detective (from around Lajamanu but lived in Melbourne since he was two), and the odd Sikh who was immediately removed from actual police work and given a gig as some sort of community liaison officer, where he got his photo taken in a turban for a living.

    There was even a transgender one that went straight to the leafy inner east from the Academy. The station receiving this person had to build a separate locker room and toilet.

    The bigger issue is this, and it is true despite any claims of inclusion by senior management and/or raaacism by others:

    Some ethnic groups have no interest in becoming police officers and actually helping out the wider community. It’s that simple, and no amount of trying to wish it away will make it different.

  31. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Zyconoclast at 11:01 pm:

    “Trump questions taking immigrants from ‘shithole countries’ -sources …”

    Thank you Zyconoclast for taking the time to post whole articles on subjects of interest.

    With print media blocks in place and subscriptions required it is often impossible to see all that is written on lead articles. As to copyright matters I imagine the site owner would make announcements on that from time to time and, until he does, copy merrily away.

  32. JC

    Some ethnic groups have no interest in becoming police officers and actually helping out the wider community.

    Wow Knuckle head, It’s been a while, but we haven’t seen the greater good theory raise its ugly head since the 30’s. Do you wear your trousers tucked into your boots when in uniform?

  33. Nick

    Thanks Mindfree, though I wouldn’t say it was my favourite album of theirs.

  34. OneWorldGovernment

    Can any of you military associated folk tell me what the status of the ADF is in case there was an armed uprising in Australia?

    Just curious given my understanding of how it stands in the USA.

  35. Top Ender

    Mrs Top Ender’s India experience continues unabated.

    Showers were a husky native bringing two buckets of hot water to the tent.

    The last time I slept in a tend in the middle of wild country I was armed.

    Not here.

  36. Zatara

    Amazon chief Jeff Bezos jumps into immigration debate with $42m donation to scholarship fund for ‘dreamers’

    Are the funds transferable to the University of Teguchigalpa or Mexico City Community College?

  37. Bruce in WA

    Lucknow was the scene of a siege where the British were surrounded by Indian soldiers

    Yes, I’ve seen the documentary.

  38. Zatara

    More Bradley’s fault than Montgomery’s – even Bradley admitted it after the war, and Bradley loathed Monty as much as anyone.

    As Allied Ground Commander of course Bradley must take responsibility for it. That’s basic leadership.

    However, Canadian historian Richard Rohmer, a former reconnaissance pilot who flew many missions over the Falaise pocket claims it was Montgomery’s fault.

    “This was as far as the story went until Rohmer indicted Montgomery with heretofore unpublished notes made by prominent U.S. historian Forrest Pogue during an interview with Brigadier E.T. Williams, Montgomery’s intelligence officer.

    According to these notes, Williams said he was present when Montgomery, in his capacity as commander of all Allied ground troops in France, instructed his staff to tell Bradley to stop Patton south of Argentan.

    Rohmer concludes that Montgomery did this anticipating the Canadians would close the gap, thus spotlighting his own forces that were being backstaged by Patton’s blitzkrig.

    In 1943, Patton had outfought Montgomery in Sicily, and after the Avranches breakout in 1944, Montgomery was still stymied around Caen while Patton’s armor was on an audacious rampage that commanded the attention of all the world.

    So, concludes Rohmer, Montgomery was desperate to restore his luster by restraining Patton and closing the gap at Falaise himself.”

    The big Allied blunder in France: Montgomery’s fault?

    Rohmer’s book may be found here.

  39. Zatara

    As Allied Ground Commander of course Bradley must take responsibility for it. That’s basic leadership.

    Correction, Bradley was the US ground commander who accepted the order to stop his forces at the inter-army group boundary. Montgomery was the overall commander until after Normandy and the one who gave the order.

  40. overburdened

    re Katy Lied- E C(7th) C C(7th) Em(7) Am(7)etc very cool

  41. JC

    Which U.S. state had the highest median income in 2016?

    New York or California, perhaps, home to some of the nation’s wealthiest cities? Maryland or Virginia, with their Washington suburbs …

    None of those. It’s New Hampshire – the Granite State.

    The Granite State’s median household income last year was a whopping $76,260, nearly 30 percent higher than the national median of $59,039, according to the Census.

    The typical New Hampshire household earned $35,000 a year more than the typical household in the country’s poorest state, Mississippi, where the median income is $41,099. Put another way, the median income in Mississippi today is about as low as the median income in New Hampshire 20 years ago, in 1997 ($40,998).

    The ironic thing about this is that on these figures is NH would be the most successful economy in the world and there is no state minimum wage.

    It’s also run along libertarian lines with high property taxes and I think from memory, no state income tax on wages and salaries.

  42. Top Ender

    Can any of you military associated folk tell me what the status of the ADF is in case there was an armed uprising in Australia?

    The armed forces come under the command of the GG from memory, although IIRR there was some controversy over that some years ago. In theory they don’t have a role as there are rules in place that prevent them being used against Australian citizens and inside the borders of Oz.

    In practicality I think there are some procedures.

    Sorry to be hazy – recall looking at it some years ago when I was in.

  43. overburdened

    That would be Dr Woo and if you don’t try n play then hey

  44. BorisG

    It’s also run along libertarian lines with high property taxes and I think from memory, no state income tax on wages and salaries.

    Not sure about income taxes, however NH has no (or low) sales tax so many people from Mass shop in NH.

    However NH is small and is like Luxemburg. It depends on other states.

  45. stackja

    TE APH article call out the troops, can’t link.

  46. stackja

    TE APH Constitution Section 119.

  47. BorisG

    However according to Wikipedia, NH is only no. 7. Top is Maryland, followed by DC, Hawaii (!) Alaska (!), New Jersey, Connecticut, and Massachusetts. California no. 9 and NY at no. 15. However the difference between the top seven is 5K, or about 7%.

  48. JC

    Boris

    I frequently here the “small” argument when comparing Switzerland’s per capita wealth to the rest of the Euro countries, but it just doesn’t wash with me. If you don’t want to look at it in absolute terms then it’s worth asking the question of why it has a higher median income than the poorest state.

  49. stackja

    TE APH Defence Act Section 51.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    However NH is small and is like Luxemburg. It depends on other states.

    Which is why Haiti’s GDP is so much greater than the US’s.

  51. C.L.

    Black South Africans prove they’re totally not monkeys by going ape and bananas …

    Crazed Socialist Mobs DESTROY H&M Stores in South Africa Over Monkey Ad.

    All because of a cute children’s sweater emblazoned with the words “Coolest Monkey In The Jungle.”

    Crazed mobs of people belonging to a militant socialist political party called the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) spent Saturday morning vandalizing H&M stores at malls across South Africa over a monkey sweatshirt advertisement that the internet deemed to be “racist…”

    “We [the EFF] are not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now,” the group’s president, Julius Malema, said during a political rally in 2016.

    Malema has previously been convicted of hate speech for repeatedly singing “dubul’ ibhunu”, which translates to “shoot the boer [white farmer].”

    You know what comes next – after the last boer is shot. That’s right: shithole.

  52. JC

    Interesting stats on a successful – possibly the most successful country in Europe.

    Foreign born living in Switzerland.

    The number of foreigners in Switzerland increased at a faster rate than the number of Swiss in 2016, according to new figures released on Wednesday.
    As of January 1st 2017 the population of Switzerland was over 8.4 million, up 1.1 percent from the previous year, the Swiss statistics office said in its annual report.

    However while the number of Swiss citizens grew by 0.6 percent in 2016, the number of foreign residents was up by 2.6 percent, it said.

    There are now more than 2.1 million foreigners living in Switzerland, up from just under 2.05 million a year earlier, comprising 24.9 percent of the total population.

    Foreign born doesn’t mean citizenship. It takes a long time.

    Regular naturalisation. Foreigners with no direct blood ties to Switzerland through either birth or marriage must currently live in the country for at least 12 years before they can apply for citizenship.

  53. C.L.

    Women can’t cope latest:

    Police dog tests are too hard for women: Forces must change handler fitness assessments after female Pc wins £15,000 damages because she couldn’t run as far as a man with one on her back.

    A female police officer has been awarded £15,000 after failing a grueling fitness test to become a dog handler and now forces across the country will have to change their exam.

    Constable Kim-Louise Carter had to complete a ten-mile run and then carry a dog named Hulk who weighed five and a half stone (35kg) over a course, in wet and muddy conditions.

    She claimed that the test put women at a disadvantage because it was too physically tough to pass as she struggled to keep up with her male equivalents.

    Miss Carter, 31 won a landmark sex-discrimination case proving that the system to become a dog handler was too demanding for some women.

    Gloucester, Avon and Somerset and Wiltshire police forces all used the test that Miss Carter tackled.

    As a result each constabularly has a higher percentage of male dog handlers compared to female, the employment tribunal in Bristol heard.

    During the hearing Judge Street ordered that the three police forces must review their exam course. But this may affect other constabularies where women officers have struggled to complete the taxing fitness challenge.

    Miss Carter told the tribunal that she became exhausted while carrying the dog up a hill known as ‘The Long Walk’.

    She also said that she ‘dug deep, real deep’ to keep up with the men who were moving at a faster pace than her.

    She added: ‘I could lift the dog but had nothing left to carry him. I just couldn’t get any momentum’, reports The Telegraph…

    Judge Street said: ‘Where a standard test had negative impacts on members of a protected group, here women, then it either needs to be changed or objectively justified.’

    The judge agreed women were at particular disadvantage compared with men and awarded Miss Carter a total of £14,930 for indirect sex discrimination.

    A spokesman for Gloucestershire police said the three forces were now reviewing the judges’ recommendations.

  54. OneWorldGovernment

    stackja
    #2609252, posted on January 14, 2018 at 1:46 am

    TE APH Defence Act Section 51.

    So,

    If Victorians and Melburnians got so sick of the inaction of Vic Pol and created their own Civil Militia, nay Civil Police Force, and started charging through some of the low life scum AND had the Vic Pol at bay then Turnbull has the right to call in Australian Soldiers to put the Australians down?

  55. Zatara

    Miss Carter, 31 won a landmark sex-discrimination case proving that the system to become a dog handler was too demanding for some women.

    So, some women pass the test but she didn’t. Exactly what was she griping about then?

    That the court gave her a participation trophy is no surprise though.

  56. OWG;

    If Victorians and Melburnians got so sick of the inaction of Vic Pol and created their own Civil Militia, nay Civil Police Force, and started charging through some of the low life scum AND had the Vic Pol at bay then Turnbull has the right to call in Australian Soldiers to put the Australians down?

    No.
    The issue is a policing matter.
    Australian soldiery have no legal protection if they hurt someone.

  57. OWG;
    My suggestion is that the citizenry arm up.
    One legal way to do so is to form a Security Company and have clients who pay for armed security.
    But it’s fraught with legal implications because the coppers will crucify Pale Males who stand up for themselves.
    Better to get Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground legislation.

  58. Boris

    Which is why Haiti’s GDP is so much greater than the US’s.

    US states are not independent counties. They are integrated into a larger US economy. What is your point exactly? If you imply that I meant that small is beneficial, this was not my point.

    I agree with JC about Switzerland. Switzerland and Greece are of similar size…

  59. Boris

    Tom you wake up before I go to sleep 🙂

  60. Zatara

    If you ever wondered just how stupid liberal progressives could be….

    Liberals are Buying the Wrong ‘Fire and Fury’ on Amazon

    Michael Wolff’s new book on the Trump presidency, “Fire and Fury,” has shot up the bestseller lists, but many readers desperate for dirt on the president are instead learning about Allied bombing campaigns during WWII.

    A decade-old book, “Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945” by Randall Hansen, also found itself on three of Amazon’s bestseller lists. Hansen told The Guardian that he was surprised people were so “dumb” to be confusing the two books.

    But on the plus side, they are learning a bit of non-revisionist history.

  61. classical_hero

    My pronoun is Attack Helicopter.

  62. John Constantine

    Trumpnado denying State of Hawaii sends out a completely wrong:

    Incoming ballistic missile

    Text message on the godless communist Hawaiian emergency text system.

    Imminent nuclear war this morning, screams the chicken little antitrumpers.

  63. calli

    A decade-old book, “Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945” by Randall Hansen, also found itself on three of Amazon’s bestseller lists. Hansen told The Guardian that he was surprised people were so “dumb” to be confusing the two books.

    Seriously? Is anyone here surprised?

  64. Mater

    Australian soldiery have no legal protection if they hurt someone.

    A Government research paper (for anyone interested).
    It looks at a number of examples which have occurred over the years.
    Call Out the Troops: an examination of the legal basis for Australian Defence Force involvement in ‘non-defence’ matters

  65. Mike of Marion

    Feeling a deal better this morning.

  66. Rae

    A list of horrors from some wax museum

    Forget Oprah for president: The contenders to be Australia’s next female PM

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/forget-oprah-for-president-the-contenders-to-be-australias-next-female-pm-20180110-h0gawo.html

    Nothing like a bit of a laugh to start the day. The inclusion of Kelly O’Dwyer and Julia Banks as a potential woman PM is hilarious.

    And the included poll speaks volumes: Plibbers leading by a country mile, followed by Someone Else.

  67. Gab

    Yes, IR, as Tim Blair points out:

    In Australia, gangs are known as groups.

    Because the numpties in charge believe calling them “groups” lessens their power and will make them stop forming gangs or something.

  68. Gab

    Feeling a deal better this morning.

    Great! Hope that continues, Mike. Still in my prayers.

  69. Tel

    But on the plus side, they are learning a bit of non-revisionist history.

    I’m guessing a lot of those books were not purchased for the purpose of reading them.

  70. Farmer Gez

    CIA used Moby to Dis Trump.
    Moby?
    Real name Dick Hall. Music I have never heard, an avid vegan and a rabid animal rights campaigner. He also looks like Pyjama Boy’s grandad.
    As the old man would say “kick his arse on sight”.

  71. calli

    The gangs, whose members are typically in their late teens and early 20s, base their membership not on tribe or religion, but on the Cairo neighborhoods that they claim to defend, Abdo said.

    There were comments on this a couple of days ago. Some labelled the gangs “Muslim” and others said that many members were nominally “Christian”. Perhaps the Cairo experience is the same here.

  72. Tintarella di Luna

    Feeling a deal better this morning.

    Glad to hear it Mike, and praying that continues each morning. Best wishes

  73. classical_hero

    Congratulations are in order for President Abbas who is now into year 13 of a 4 year presidency.

  74. calli

    Heh. I’ll be reporting from Cairo in April. Using the new TrumpScale, I’ll assess its sh!thole-ity on a scale of 1 to 10.

    Hopefully I won’t see too much gang activity.

  75. classical_hero

    Actually he’s into year 14, after just completing his 13th year.

  76. She added: ‘I could lift the dog but had nothing left to carry him. I just couldn’t get any momentum’, reports The Telegraph…

    Judge Street said: ‘Where a standard test had negative impacts on members of a protected group, here women, then it either needs to be changed or objectively justified.

    The judge agreed women were at particular disadvantage compared with men and awarded Miss Carter a total of £14,930 for indirect sex discrimination.

    So they failed to demonstrate that this requirement was objectively justified? This and the H&M story show how close to the edge contemporary culture is skating. Modern liberalism is a cul-de-sac, we have to turn around or we are done.

  77. Myrddin Seren

    CIA used Moby to Dis Trump.

    Moby?

    Via Drudge.

    If Moby has hacked his brains out and is hallucinating, one would normally expect a person-of-the-Left and pop music person of some fame to never admit to ‘helping the Man’, especially the hated CIA.

    Instead, he seems to be proud of it and allegedly helping the Men in Black ( ho ho ) subvert a sitting US President.

    These are very strange times though.

    Also from Drudge:

    Chelsea Manning eyes U.S. Senate seat for Maryland

    The Crazy Years.

  78. 132andBush

    Modern liberalism is a cul-de-sac, we have to turn around or we are done.

    Someone was noting how few “Liberty Quotes” there were in 2017.

    There’s a great one to start 2018.

  79. DrBeauGan

    Judge Street said: ‘Where a standard test had negative impacts on members of a protected group, here women.

    How come women are a protected group and I’m not? I need protection from loony politicians and judges.

  80. Entropy

    I wonder about this “objectively justified” proposition. Being able to carry out your dog that had been shot by a perp deep in the swamp, or moor if it comes to that, would be a pretty important part of the job I would think.
    won’t the judge think of poor Spot’s needs?

  81. Gab

    How come women are a protected group

    We’re roughly 50% of the population and because.

  82. Snoopy

    How come women are a protected group

    They’re a minority, stupid.

  83. Tel

    Judge Street said: ‘Where a standard test had negative impacts on members of a protected group, here women, then it either needs to be changed or objectively justified.’

    Strange that the Judge openly admits that “protected groups” do exist… I thought that was just a conspiracy theory.

    Anyhow, if these people are “protected” then who’s job is it to protect them? The general idea is that the police have the job of protecting the rest of us, at least in theory.

  84. DrBeauGan

    We’re roughly 50% of the population and because.

    Yes, you are roughly 50% of the population, Gab. I on the other hand am a minority. There’s only one of me. I’m oppressed, that’s what I am.

  85. DrBeauGan

    I was brung up to believe that protecting women (and children), was the job of every man.

  86. Tel

    Being able to carry out your dog that had been shot by a perp deep in the swamp, or moor if it comes to that, would be a pretty important part of the job I would think.

    The dog generally runs a few steps ahead, so if there’s any sort of hazard, broken glass, pitfall, hidden spikes, booby trap, laser beam, scything blades or Indiana Jones style poison darts… it’s the dog that will take the hit. Then you end up carrying the injured dog back out of there, because if you ditch the dog and run away what kind of example would that be for the kiddies?

  87. Tel

    I was brung up to believe that protecting women (and children), was the job of every man.

    When they brought you up, did they get around to discussing the matter of payment for this convenient service? Jobs have wages if I’m not mistaken.

  88. I was brung up to believe that protecting women (and children), was the job of every man.

    I tuaght my daughter that she had permission to disembowel any man who did not accept this. Including her brothers.

  89. Mother Lode

    OK, so with this police woman In the UK.

    Femenist: Women should be admitted to the same role as men!
    Ordinary Person: Isn’t there an issue with physical strength requirements?
    F: Women can do anything needed as well as men.
    Judge: She’s right. You must open those roles to women.

    A few years later.

    OP: You’re suing us? Didn’t you say you could hand the job as well as men?
    F: We will once we redefine the job and lower the standards.
    J: She’s right. Lucky for you all that I am so brilliant.

  90. Roger

    Germaine Greer on Donald Trump:

    “He interests me because they can’t control him. And while nobody’s looking, the dollar is increasing in value, and there are a quarter of a million new jobs a month, he’s saying he’ll make America great again, and where blue collar workers are concerned, it’s working.”

  91. DrBeauGan

    Tel
    #2609321, posted on January 14, 2018 at 9:29 am
    I was brung up to believe that protecting women (and children), was the job of every man.

    When they brought you up, did they get around to discussing the matter of payment for this convenient service? Jobs have wages if I’m not mistaken.

    Pay wasn’t mentioned, Tel. It wasn’t really a job, it was a duty. Based on my being bigger and stronger and much, much cleverer.

  92. DrBeauGan

    Tel, you’re not suggesting I was suckered into this idea, are you?

  93. Roger

    Canada tells Salvadorans: Please don’t come here

    Diversity no longer their strength?

  94. areff

    How come women are a protected group ?

    Simple. Women can be so annoying at times, less gentlemanly sorts — especially those taught in childhood not ‘to throw like a girl’ — can react in hard-wired, testosterone-poisoned, two-fisted masculinist way.

    I’ve seen a government ad to that effect, so it must be true.

  95. struth

    You defended women and the country they lived unto death.
    But then they complained about not being paid for doing the dishes.

  96. classical_hero

    https://youtu.be/PV8jYTfxJTI

    The curious case of Radiohead suing Lana Del Rey over a song they were sued over and lost.

  97. classical_hero

    Modern Feminism: There’s no difference between men and women. How dare you expect us to compete at the same standards as men.

  98. Des Deskperson

    ‘A list of horrors from some wax museum

    Forget Oprah for president: The contenders to be Australia’s next female PM’

    The print edition of this article in the Canberra Times – and therefore presumably other Fairfax papers – has a picture of the Plibbster that appears to have been be very heavily doctored and retouched to eliminate her jowls, she almost looks like she’s been told to suck her cheeks in. She is barely recognisable.

    Dunno if the recision is a last minute Labor PR job oar whether some Fairfax edition is gratuitously suckling.

  99. JC

    “He interests me because they can’t control him. And while nobody’s looking, the dollar is increasing in value, and there are a quarter of a million new jobs a month, he’s saying he’ll make America great again, and where blue collar workers are concerned, it’s working.”

    LOl The Dollar has actually fallen. I think what the old hack means is that the stock market has has gone up. She’s all confused.

  100. She’s all confused.

    No problem. Leftist heretics should be encouraged.

  101. Roger

    LOl The Dollar has actually fallen. I think what the old hack means is that the stock market has has gone up. She’s all confused.

    Yes, but she’s a feminist, not an economist.

    At least the penny has dropped!

  102. twostix

    Anyhow, if these people are “protected” then who’s job is it to protect them? The general idea is that the police have the job of protecting the rest of us, at least in theory.

    Working class white girls in Rothertham, Oxford,
    Rochdale, etc weren’t part of the protected.

    See how it’s class based.

  103. JC

    However NH is small and is like Luxemburg. It depends on other states.

    Boris, there’s no correlation between the size of a country/wealth per cap / how much of the economy is externalized.

    US states are not independent counties. They are integrated into a larger US economy. What is your point exactly? If you imply that I meant that small is beneficial, this was not my point.

    I agree with JC about Switzerland. Switzerland and Greece are of similar size…

    It’s true that we’re looking at states within an economic zone (US). However there’s a yuge divergence between the poorest state and the richest. You seem to suggest there should be or that divergence doesn’t exist?

  104. Mike of Marion

    SAPOL FB Page

    Gawler 1200 homes without power incl the Cop Shop!!

  105. classical_hero

    What’s the difference between ET and an illegal alien?

    ET learnt English and wanted to go Home.

    H/T to srr for retweeting it.

  106. JC

    H/T to srr for retweeting it.

    I thought someone said USSR had been banned on Twitter.

  107. struth

    Using diversity logic, all the white people, male and female, or otherwise in our parliament need to immediately give up their positions, and give them to brown or black identifying non Christian, preferably culturally trapped, LGBTITS indigenous immigrants and colonially repressed sack wearing feminist freedom fighters who form groups, not gangs, and can prove to have self appointed community representatives, and have suffered by having a white man pay them a compliment (no proof necessary).

    Haven’t we come a long way since giving the banshees the vote?

  108. John Constantine

    The yarragrad fundamental diversity push for firefighting means transforming the job until any wymynsys can do it.

    Massive spending on robots and tech and water bombing aircraft in theory means men can be dropped to fifty percent of firefighting.

    ( the cascade of stress leave and physical and mental breakdowns in the police service seems to increase as the percentage of wymynsys increases, but this is unmeasured and unmentionable.)

    Watch policing become automated, robotocised, online and no go zoned as the demographics go full diversity.

  109. Infidel Tiger

    “Women hold up half the sky”

    The really light bit that is much lower so their puny weakling arms can reach it.

  110. JC

    Is there something in the water? It’s like a legal requirement to have a rap sheet in order to live there.

    An Australian legal stoush over a $4.5m luxury yacht is at the centre of a worldwide chase for assets connected to Gold Coast businessman Geoffrey Cassidy, who has been accused of defrauding tens of millions from Singaporean private jet hire company Zetta Jet to fund his lavish lifestyle.

    American investors in Zetta Jet, where Mr Cassidy was managing director, accuse the Australian of fraud and racketeering in the run-up to the group’s collapse in September by using up to $US30m in stolen company money to throw extravagant parties and buy two yachts, houses in Europe and luxury cars. One of the yachts, a top-of-the-line Maritimo 70 named Dragon Pearl that is outfitted with features including satellite communications equipment designed to work anywhere in the world, is under arrest on the Gold Coast by order of the Federal Court.

  111. DrBeauGan

    I’m all confused now, perhaps a feminist can put me straight. Either all men have a duty to protect the weak, or we don’t. In which case, presumably, we can beat the shit out of them whenever we feel like it.

    Which is it?

  112. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2609347, posted on January 14, 2018 at 10:05 am

    “Women hold up half the sky”

    The really light bit that is much lower so their puny weakling arms can reach it.

    Bullshit. Hear me roar.

  113. twostix

    The uk police exist to harrass the native population. Its entire structure and heritage rests upon policing a well behaved placid (some might say cuck lickspittle) homogenous populace.

    It has no institutional or cultural understanding of how to police a Babylon style shitpot.

    So instead of reforming it continues to pretend that it is still policing 1950 Britain worrying about Things White People Do like bins and calling people names, while autistically tuning out the increasing violent rape filled third world nightmare that is the “Ookay”.

    It does so for a litany of reasons but one interesting one is British police see and modestly tell everyone that the are the Nice(tm) police force. Superior to all others. They refuse to reform because that would mean they have to jettison their position at the top of the Cult of Nice whole and become more martial.

  114. Gawler 1200 homes without power incl the Cop Shop!!

    Welcome to the dark ages a.k.a. the roonable economy.

  115. Frank

    With respect to the gay guy on the ABC last week whose muslim family were going to “beat the gay out of him.” Does anyone know if it worked or not? Disturbing for the narrative if some form of hands on Ludovico technique showed promise.

  116. Geriatric Mayfly

    The judge agreed women were at particular disadvantage compared with men and awarded Miss Carter a total of £14,930 for indirect sex discrimination.

    A new tactical weapon emerges. I had always thought sex discrimination travelled in a straight line. Now it can travel around corners as well and probably read difficult topography if you get a fatuous judge.

  117. Snoopy

    So instead of reforming it continues to pretend that it is still policing 1950 Britain worrying about Things White People Do like bins and calling people names, while autistically tuning out the increasing violent rape filled third world nightmare that is the “Ookay”.

    You have to admit though that the London Met does assiduously protect the privacy of citizens. For example, you haven’t seen any embarrassing CCTV footage of Taffy’s terrorist attack on Finsbury Park worshippers, have you?

  118. Infidel Tiger

    Hong Kong: Chinese police officers have demolished one of the country’s largest evangelical churches this week, using heavy machinery and dynamite to raze the building where more than 50,000 Christians worshipped.

    The Golden Lampstand Church in Shanxi province in mainland China was one of at least two Christian churches demolished by authorities in recent weeks, part of what critics describe as a national effort to regulate spiritual life in China.

    The chicoms are starting to shit themselves.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-police-dynamite-christian-megachurch-20180113-h0hujr.html

  119. DrBeauGan

    Yes, Helen Reddy can do anything. The only reason she doesn’t do nuclear physics or front line fighting against ISIS is that she is more interested in the important stuff like clothes and shoes and makeup.

  120. struth

    I’m all confused now, perhaps a feminist can put me straight. Either all men have a duty to protect the weak, or we don’t. In which case, presumably, we can beat the shit out of them whenever we feel like it.

    Which is it?

    Men will soon be beating the shit out of them again.
    Their muslim masters will have them back under control and in sacks quicker than you can say Allan’snackbar.

    Turn your back on Australian women.
    Generally, they don’t deserve us, and we definitely don’t deserve them.
    Leave the lazy entitled loons to their self imposed Muslim masters.
    Get yourself a South Korean.
    This is my fatherly advice to my son, these days.

    But you have one , dad.
    Yeah, but different generation and she’s a rare find even then.

    Your chances of finding anything that wants to be a team player and something that is OK on the optic nerve are long odds in this country, leave them to the mussies.
    They’re asking for it, and they deserve it.
    One day son, you’ll realise women, generally, with few exceptions, don’t want to be in control, it frightens the shit of them.
    They’ll tell you they do, but that means nothing.
    They’d rather have a sack on their heads and be ruled by a hairy backed fat slob in a nightgown than deal with the western world they said they wanted and we let them have.
    It really is our fault, son.

  121. Zatara

    It has no institutional or cultural understanding of how to police a Babylon style shitpot.

    The UK did pretty well when they were governing the shitpots overseas but they can’t adjust to the fact that the shitpots followed them back to the UK.

  122. H B Bear

    Gawler 1200 homes without power incl the Cop Shop!!

    That’s how you reduce CO2 emissions. Keep the dung fires burning Mainland Tasmanians.

  123. DrBeauGan

    The old argument against giving women the vote was that they are too emotional, too irrational, and unfitted by temperament for exercising power outside a domestic setting involving small children.

    This is sounding more reasonable every day.

  124. Marty

    The UK did pretty well when they were governing the shitpots overseas but they can’t adjust to the fact that the shitpots followed them back to the UK.

    Perhaps when the UK governed them they were not quite as shitty as they are now.

  125. Tintarella di Luna

    The UK did pretty well when they were governing the shitpots overseas but they can’t adjust to the fact that the shitpots followed them back to the UK.

    One Sir Charles Napier comes to mind. Sir Charles seemed to have accomplished quite a bit in his time. By all appearance he was adept at changing barbaric customs — this is from Wikipedia so could be BS but this bit about his sub-continental experience caught my eye some time back:

    Napier opposed suttee, or sati. This was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. Sati was rare in Sindh during the time Napier stayed in this region.[13] Napier judged that the immolation was motivated by profits for the priests, and when told of an actual Sati about to take place, he informed those involved that he would stop the sacrifice. The priests complained to him that this was a customary religious rite, and that customs of a nation should be respected. As recounted by his brother William, he replied:

    “Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.” [13]

    On slavery and plunder

  126. Tel

    https://imgur.com/a/Lf1kL

    There’s one for the No Shit Sherlock awards, turns out Stephen Paddock (Las Vegas shooter) really was an arms dealer. Now if we knew a bit more about his buyers that would be fascinating… but don’t hope for too much.

  127. Tintarella di Luna

    This is sounding more reasonable every day.

    Likes like is it third or fourth way feminism is rounding up the pussycats and pussyhats and driving back to the future.

  128. DrBeauGan

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a misogynist. I like women. They’re lovely, all soft and squashy.

  129. struth

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a misogynist. I like women. They’re lovely, all soft and squashy.

    You’ve left them out in the heat too long.

  130. Bruce in WA

    So Hawaii had a false missile alert. Reportedly, caused by an employee at change-of-shift pressing the wrong button(s).

    But those towers of intellect — the “celebs” — have rushed in to lay the blame squarely on one person:

    I woke up this morning in Hawaii with ten minutes to live. It was a false alarm, but a real psychic warning. If we allow this one-man Gomorrah and his corrupt Republican congress to continue alienating the world we are headed for suffering beyond all imagination. ;^ pic.twitter.com/Kwca91IIy2
    — Jim Carrey (@JimCarrey) January 13, 2018

    But it gets better, even more unhinged:

    This Hawaii missle scare is on YOU Mr. Trump. The real FEAR that mothers & fathers & children felt is on YOU. It is on YOUR ARROGANCE. HUBRIS. NARCISSISM. RAGE. EGO. IMMATURITY and your UNSTABLE IDIOCY. Shame on your hate filled self. YOU DID THIS!
    — Jamie Lee Curtis (@jamieleecurtis) January 13, 2018

    And our favourite kapok muncher:

    The emergency alert in Hawaii of an incoming ballistic missile was issued in error—but it is so very much a sign of our times.

    — George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) January 13, 2018

    Read more if you have the stomach.

  131. DrBeauGan

    So Hawaii had a false missile alert. Reportedly, caused by an employee at change-of-shift pressing the wrong button(s).

    Bet it was a diversity hire. Probably a chick.

  132. Mike of Marion

    Just come in

    The young ‘uns making pleasant noise.

  133. Infidel Tiger

    So Hawaii had a false missile alert. Reportedly, caused by an employee at change-of-shift pressing the wrong button(s).

    Sounds like bullshit, but nothing would surprise.

  134. Rae

    I’ll be reporting from Cairo in April.

    Pay the $10 to go through the tunnel in the pyramid. It’s worth it just to say you’ve done it.

  135. Infidel Tiger

    The emergency alert in Hawaii of an incoming ballistic missile was issued in error—but it is so very much a sign of our times.

    — George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) January 13, 2018

    This faggot is pretty uppity for a fella who likes to get young boys drunk and rape them.

  136. Tel

    Tel, you’re not suggesting I was suckered into this idea, are you?

    You really must be the judge of your own life and objectives.

  137. cohenite

    Judge Street said: ‘Where a standard test had negative impacts on members of a protected group, here women.

    Women are a protected species because they are weaker than men. The problem is when women want their sponge cake with multiple layers of cream and want to eat it too. If you’re weaker than by definition you can’t do things which require strength. In this instance the dog is placed in danger and people who rely on someone with strength to rescue them are also placed in danger because a weaker woman is in the role of helping them.

    It’s a straight forward case of hypocrisy.

  138. C.L.

    In a completely surprising development, actors blame Trump for Hawaii debacle…

    Jamie Lee Curtis✔@jamieleecurtis
    This Hawaii missle scare is on YOU Mr. Trump. The real FEAR that mothers & fathers & children felt is on YOU. It is on YOUR ARROGANCE. HUBRIS. NARCISSISM. RAGE. EGO. IMMATURITY and your UNSTABLE IDIOCY. Shame on your hate filled self. YOU DID THIS!

    And:

    Jim Carrey✔@JimCarrey

    I woke up this morning in Hawaii with ten minutes to live. It was a false alarm, but a real psychic warning. If we allow this one-man Gomorrah and his corrupt Republican congress to continue alienating the world we are headed for suffering beyond all imagination. ;^\

    “I woke up this morning in Hawaii with ten minutes to live.”
    Like Carrey’s last girlfriend.

  139. Drink-Up Socrates

    Do any of the well informed have any idea how Yammie the Ever Grateful is funding her worldwide hate tour.
    ‘Who’ is funding her is obvious. It is us. But it would be interesting to learn how she is doing it.
    ABC, SBS, Foreign Affairs, ANU…..Lucy???

  140. DrBeauGan

    Tel
    #2609382, posted on January 14, 2018 at 11:00 am
    Tel, you’re not suggesting I was suckered into this idea, are you?

    You really must be the judge of your own life and objectives.

    Now you’ve really got me worried.

  141. struth

    I generalise.

    Unfortunately , and I really do mean unfortunately, the influence of feminine feelings over facts has been a disaster for the west.

    They look for protection from all things.
    If not found in their men it will be found in government until other men come along.
    The western woman is seriously unhappy, and it is our fault.
    But it is they who now seal their doom by outlawing masculinity from early childhood in our schools.
    They are defenceless now, and are becoming insane.

    Somebody said that men think rationally and women rationalise their thinking.
    They do this when feelings trump reason and logic.

    Step up and be real men.

    I tell my son that you don’t need to be in charge of a woman.
    You don’t need to boss her about.
    That is not being a real man.
    A real man makes his woman feel secure, and a woman knows instinctively who is providing that security.
    That’s why men with more money are always a better catch to a woman.
    That’s why alpha males are always preferred, no matter what they say.
    Women with betas are extremely unhappy as a general rule.
    Provide security and whatever else you can, for your family and your nation.
    But providing security is the top priority.
    That is what being a man is.
    That is the natural way.

    The problems we now have are because we felt so relaxed, especially after world war 2 and the cold war ended, that we let women have a crack at anything, and why not, we thought.
    We are nice men.
    We are paying for this now.

  142. C.L.

    Pansy:

    US actor Mark Wahlberg has agreed to donate the $1.5 million ($1.9m) he earned for All the Money in the World reshoots to the Time’s Up initiative after reports co-star Michelle Williams made less than $1,000 ($1,265) for the retakes.

    Wahlberg said he would donate the money to the sexual misconduct defence initiative in the name of his co-star Williams.

    She got a thousand bucks because nobody knows who she is.

  143. when feelings trump reason and logic.

    Enter the globule worming.

  144. Tel

    Speaking of the USD falling a bit, I’ve been saying for a while they intentionally want to allow that to reduce in a controlled manner… and under the scheme of things they are managing it OK.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=hvmX

    There’s the graph you want to watch, where during the Bernanke years they pretty much drew the line in the sand by keeping it narrowly between 200 and 210 on the index. Yellen did her tightening stuff (which was the right thing IMHO) so the PPI dropped a bit in 2016 but now it’s gently coming back up again. The key band being between 200 and 210 so that’s my prediction of when they start tightening up the USD again. Based on simple linear projection that would hit the line in about 12 months, although in a world rules by Trump everyone has learned to expect the unexpectable.

  145. Stimpson J. Cat

    “pockets of disengaged rascals”

    Ginger Meggs is behind this I just know it.

  146. struth

    Hawaii had a missile alert because one of the left wing TDS sufferers in the public service decided to wake people up to what he/she knows is about to happen anyway if a republican continues to sit in the white house, and give the left another false narrative to push.
    And right on queue in comes the Hollywood leftist filth.

  147. nemkat

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2609368, posted on January 14, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Another way of looking at it: Sir Charles Napier was the leading SJW of his day.
    The prospect of Suttee must have meant wives did their very best to keep the old bloke’s pulse going.
    Your average woman these days couldn’t look after a cat.

  148. Tel

    Step up and be real men.

    Thanks but I was born a real man, and I don’t need other people explaining to me who I should be.

    Especially when you consider we now live in a world where most people have NFI who or what they are at the best of times… I’m far better off using my own judgement when deciding what is real.

  149. C.L.

    I doubt very much the missile alert system is two buttons side-to-side.
    There would be protocols and an overseeing manager, the whole works.
    This was done deliberately.

  150. DrBeauGan

    Jamie Lee Curtis used to have nice legs and a good bum. Face like a car crash, a three bagger, mind.

    Now she’s busy sharing her neuroses, aka raising our consciousness. What on earth makes the silly cow think anyone sane gives a stuff about her dumb ideas?

    Struth with his admirable capacity for cutting through the bullshit is correct. Someone has a duty to tell these dim bimbos to STFU.

  151. Tel

    At ABC Online: Botswana wants to know if it’s a ‘shithole country’.

    Any country feeling the need to ask about this, probably shouldn’t bother asking.

  152. Fatty: “What should I say at the presser?”
    Dan: “Try telling them we don’t have gangs”
    Fatty: “No one will believe that!”
    Dan: “They believed in Globule worming, windmills good, coal bad. They believed the ‘lone wolf’ bullshit!”
    Fatty: “Thanks, I’ll try it and see how it goes.”

  153. JC

    Actually Botswana is the least shithole. It’s prez at one stage was following classic liberalism.

    Botswana boasts a GDP (purchasing power parity) per capita of about $18,825 per year as of 2015, which is one of the highest in Africa.

  154. Oh come on

    A decade-old book, “Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945” by Randall Hansen, also found itself on three of Amazon’s bestseller lists. Hansen told The Guardian that he was surprised people were so “dumb” to be confusing the two books.

    Seriously? Is anyone here surprised?

    You wouldn’t read this book for the same reason you don’t watch soap operas. People who rushed out to buy it no doubt dig

    Home and Away

    .

    I noticed when the Grauniad first published this story, they carefully added a quote from the author at the end, saying there were parallels between his book and Wolff’s, ie maniac in the WH (Literally Hitler stuff).

  155. Oh come on

    Oops, blockquote fail. Should have been italicised.

  156. Stimpson J. Cat

    That Eliza Dushku Facebook post about True Lies is terrible.
    She was twelve.

  157. Tel

    Hawaii had a missile alert because one of the left wing TDS sufferers in the public service decided to wake people up to what he/she knows is about to happen anyway if a republican continues to sit in the white house, and give the left another false narrative to push.
    And right on queue in comes the Hollywood leftist filth.

    Trump should simply fire all the employees who were in the building at the time and all their immediate management. Just to be sure.

    Very, very easily replaceable.

  158. C.L.

    The ANC – the communist terror group rightly hounded by the old National Party and currently dedicated to murdering every white farmer in South Africa – has also Tweeted a “shithole” criticism.

  159. H B Bear

    I think most people would be pretty comfortable with Jim Carrey being nuked.

  160. Oh come on

    Botswana is the best run country in Africa and has been for some time. They are managing their resources curse (diamonds) quite well. They also manage their tourism industry intelligently, being picky about who they let in. They focus on high end safari stuff – no backpackers as the cheap facilities they’d require aren’t available. Nepotism and tribalism is much less of a problem than in other African democracies. There was a president in the late 2000s who started to abuse his office (he had his bodyguards beat up his sister’s ex husband or something like that), the country freaked out and he had to pull his head in. Nobody there wants to become like their neighbour, Zimbabwe. Zimbabwean illegals are a big problem in Botswana. There is not a lot of love for them at all.

  161. struth

    Thanks but I was born a real man, and I don’t need other people explaining to me who I should be.

    You and I were born as babies.
    Like most people I have met.
    We were born male.
    So was the Canadian Prime Minister.

    Men need to be told what being a real men is by their elders, in what their culture believes it to be.

    Right now, our young males are taught that being a man in the traditional sense is evil and they shouldn’t go anywhere without their genitals taped back, if not removed.
    They should apologise to women for everything and stand aside for it is the women’s turn.

    In the face of all this insanity, I feel I need to clear my son’s thinking so he becomes what he should be (and has become) , a good , decent young man.
    The only benefit to becoming old and ugly is the wisdom that you gain, to be passed on to your offspring before you kick the bucket.

  162. Psst. Wanna know what Seth Afreca’s real problem is?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Africa#/media/File:South-africa-demography.svg

    and

    According to Stats SA, an estimated 95,000 whites have left South Africa since 2011 – though white migration has slowed, the group said in April 2016.

    Between 1986 and 2000, 304,112 white South Africans have left the country. Between 2001 and 2005, 133,782 whites emigrated, dropping to 112,046 between 2006 and 2011.

    This meant between 2011 and 2015, 16,888 fewer whites left South Africa.

    A big portion of the decline is seen among young white people, where Stats SA reported a 4.2% decline in this population group between 2011 and 2016.

  163. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ginger Meggs is behind this I just know it.

    Ginger, these days would be the young white male throwback. It’s Tiger Kelly who would be the hero, and it’s pretty likely that Tiger’s mum had it off with an elder at the back of the humpy, which began Tiger’s ascent to glory.

  164. JC

    Nobody there wants to become like their neighbour, Zimbabwe. Zimbabwean illegals are a big problem in Botswana. There is not a lot of love for them at all.

    They think it’s ashithole?

  165. Oh come on

    I’d expect Germaine Greer to have a relatively intelligent and thoughtful perspective on the #metoo hysteria and the rampant hypocrisy that surrounds it. As far as feminists go, Greer these days sounds a lot closer to Camille Paglia than Gloria Steinem.

  166. Ubique

    The missile alert in Hawaii is most definitely deliberate. President Trump had better be weeding out all of the Green-lefties with any opportunity to start firing ICBMs around so as to discredit his administration.

  167. Zatara

    At ABC Online: Botswana wants to know if it’s a ‘shithole country’.

    If your emigrants outnumber your immigrants that’s a pretty good clue.

  168. struth

    At ABC Online: Botswana wants to know if it’s a ‘shithole country’.

    Any country feeling the need to ask about this, probably shouldn’t bother asking.

    Australia should be asking but they don’t want the answer.

  169. twostix

    The UK did pretty well when they were governing the shitpots overseas but they can’t adjust to the fact that the shitpots followed them back to the UK.

    The most potent attack that anti-imperialists had against the British was the structural hypocrisy that had to exist in the hearts and minds of the British people in ordet to go along with it.

    Where internally the British would wax lyrical about steady peaceful old albion and their good manners and niceness and unarmed police while they simultaneously crushed killed and terrorised the shitholes of world. Their middle classes willfully turned a complete blind eye to what was done daily in their name so they could sustain the belief.

    Interestingly it is that very internal propaganda they created to fool themselves about being the Good People ™ and the weakness – being the art of mass self deception – which that introduced into the British mind that is now killing them.

  170. Oh come on

    Oh yes. And the Zimbos are responsible for a lot of crime (as you’d expect), so there is no love lost for them at all.

  171. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    A gruber (n.) is someone who grubes (v.i.) – they tell people, who they have lied to, how stupid they were to have believed the lie they were told.

    — Steve Kates

  172. OneWorldGovernment

    Samantha Power misses the good old days when the US just ignored nuclear threats

    Some good replies to her comments over on twitchy

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/01/13/samantha-power-misses-the-good-old-days-when-the-us-just-ignored-nuclear-threats/

  173. cohenite

    Right now, our young males are taught that being a man in the traditional sense is evil and they shouldn’t go anywhere without their genitals taped back, if not removed.
    They should apologise to women for everything and stand aside for it is the women’s turn.

    In the face of all this insanity, I feel I need to clear my son’s thinking so he becomes what he should be (and has become) , a good , decent young man.

    Correct. The problem is, what do you tell your daughters. My first wife had 3 sisters and a rich but absent father who gave them anything they wanted. They were all nice people but princesses. At that stage of my life I wasn’t a prince. Now I’m a king so it doesn’t matter. But it’s a matter of expectations. Being spoilt doesn’t make you a better person it just makes you spoilt. A lot of women, even nice ones, are spoilt. It’s had major ramifications for our society.

  174. Australia should be asking but they don’t want the answer.

    AU is collection of sh1tholes.
    They vary in depth. Many (like Dannograd) are uncovered and overflowing.

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    Nobody there wants to become like their neighbour, Zimbabwe. Zimbabwean illegals are a big problem in Botswana. There is not a lot of love for them at all.

    Dey need a new Queen.
    Dey need a new Commander.
    Dey do not kno da wey.
    Dey are full of da Devil.

  176. Geriatric Mayfly

    Botswana is the best run country in Africa and has been for some time.

    Had one of my funny turns there. Called for a Coke at the bar and from US$5 was given shrapnel as change. After previous experience, just across the border, where notes were peeled from toilet roll holders, I took this as an insult. A fellow traveller advised: “You are in Botswana now mate.”

  177. cohenite

    Where internally the British would wax lyrical about steady peaceful old albion and their good manners and niceness and unarmed police while they simultaneously crushed killed and terrorised the shitholes of world. Their middle classes willfully turned a complete blind eye to what was done daily in their name so they could sustain the belief.

    Interestingly it is that very internal propaganda they created to fool themselves about being the Good People ™ and the weakness – being the art of mass self deception – which that introduced into the British mind that is now killing them.

    That’s a very Irish observation.

  178. egg_

    I don’t see the CL/IT curmudgeon(s) outside of the confines of the OT these days – walking frame in the ‘shop for a refit?

  179. Steve trickler.

    Homage paid to Gustav Holst.

    Gustav smiles from above.



    Clever.

  180. Oh come on

    It’s tough for the Afrikaner whites. The English whites were (and remain) the elites, while the Afrikaners used to staff the middle and lower ranks of the public service. Of course they mostly got the arse when Mandela took over and now they get virtually nothing. They can’t emigrate because nobody wants them and they couldn’t afford to, anyway.

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    That’s a very Irish observation.

    How would the Irish and the Scots have been treated if they were not White?

  182. Marty

    while they simultaneously crushed killed and terrorised the shitholes of world

    What a load of tosh. Not all good but in the balance by the time it wound itself up the British Empire was benign and a “good thing”.

  183. egg_

    Do Africans do irony?

    Only if you set it to a rhythm?

  184. Des Deskperson

    Speaking of Canberra’s darling Virginia Haussegger – quoted in the Fairfax Tarticle above an future female PM’s – I went to her 50/50 by 2013 Foundation feminist website – the UC organisation she runs as an ‘Adjunct Professor’.

    It’s all predictable, orthodox and safe, at least from a ‘progressive’ feminist standpoint, but a lot of it is fairly thin on content and/or cut and paste. I’m not sure that we are getting our money’s worth from Professor Haussegger. One article features ALP MP Andrew Leigh as a sort of gamma male.

    But what really struck me was the Advisory Council.

    http://www.5050foundation.edu.au/who/advisory-council/

    What a bunch: Jane Halton, Natasha SD, Michelle Guthrie, David Morrison…..

  185. twostix

    Jim Carey is currently undergoing an awakening.

    It’s equal part hilarious, pathetic and dangerous.

    Hilarious because he turns up at hollywood events and openly calls them and the people at them pathetic.

    Pathetic because even in his awakening he exposes his nihilistic egotism ( I declare you all do not exist, etc). .

    Dangerous because the class he represents, knowing their time is over could easily all sign up to this nihilstic lunancy and cause immense damage to us all on their way out. He may well just be an early warning sign of what is boiling under the surface.

  186. struth

    According to Stats SA, an estimated 95,000 whites have left South Africa since 2011 – though white migration has slowed, the group said in April 2016.

    Between 1986 and 2000, 304,112 white South Africans have left the country. Between 2001 and 2005, 133,782 whites emigrated, dropping to 112,046 between 2006 and 2011.

    This meant between 2011 and 2015, 16,888 fewer whites left South Africa.

    A big portion of the decline is seen among young white people, where Stats SA reported a 4.2% decline in this population group between 2011 and 2016

    Just looking at those numbers and dividing per year, the flow of whites from South Africa has been quite constant.
    I take “between” and round off a bit, but it’s averaging at well over 20 000 a year as far as I can see.

  187. egg_

    I think we’re overdue for a ‘shit splattered toilet’ remark?

    How’s the NZ economy these days, politics aside?
    If I take my 6L bogan mobile there, it’ll likely appreciate.

  188. Baldrick

    The creepy Kitteh Stalker really does have a thing for tunnels and basements:

    Rae
    #2609380, posted on January 14, 2018 at 10:59am
    Pay the $10 to go through the tunnel in the pyramid. It’s worth it just to say you’ve done it.

    Fuck off.

  189. stackja

    Sudan followed the Madhi to Omdurman.

  190. Oh come on

    The European empires imposed Westphalian political geography on their overseas territories. In places like Africa and the ME, these hard borders were only practicable while being enforced by advanced civilisations. When those advanced civilisations left, the nation-states that remained were mostly untenable and quickly fell into chaos. In the long run, it might be best for Africa and the ME to dissolve their internal borders, let the tribes and sects fight it out and see what they come up with after a few decades of genocidal warfare. Like the partition of India, only much messier and infinitely more bloody.

  191. egg_

    If I take my 6L bogan mobile there, it’ll likely appreciate.

    More than double in value – go the muscle car.

  192. cohenite

    How would the Irish and the Scots have been treated if they were not White?

    The same.

  193. Struth. The view that I hold is that SAs population growth has added millions of very poor to the country.
    Methinks the population growth from 20 mill to 55 mill has added, at least, 30 mill poor to the country.

  194. struth

    Where internally the British would wax lyrical about steady peaceful old albion and their good manners and niceness and unarmed police while they simultaneously crushed killed and terrorised the shitholes of world. Their middle classes willfully turned a complete blind eye to what was done daily in their name so they could sustain the belief.

    Whoa Whoa, stady on dere .
    Bejeezes, me tinks ya may be full of more blarney than me good self dere.

    Unfortunately as the countries with the ability raced each other to colonise the world, being enemies, should the British just stayed at home and let the French and Germans claim everything?

  195. cynical1

    Meh.

    That’s the first time George Takei has whined about an incoming missile.

  196. H B Bear

    African gangs in Africa? Maybe they do.

  197. Shy Ted

    Why can’t these weak policewomen carry chihuahuas in their purses? Like Paris Hilton? Or Reece Witherspoon in those dreadful movies? Then they’d all pass.

  198. H B Bear

    A frozen chihuahua would be very effective against African groups.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How come women are a protected group
    We’re roughly 50% of the population and because.

    Gab nails it.

    I tell my son that you don’t need to be in charge of a woman.
    You don’t need to boss her about.
    That is not being a real man.
    A real man makes his woman feel secure, and a woman knows instinctively who is providing that security.

    So does Struth.
    That’s why wherever you look, down any street, you see men and women paired up.
    We’re hard wired for it.
    Or else it’s something in the water. 🙂

    A woman without a man is not like a fish without a bicycle.
    She’s like a woman without a man; OK on her own, but better off with one.
    In general. There are honorable exceptions. And occasions when …
    Nothing is black and white in this modern world and sensible women know that.
    Also men can be sweaty and often hairy, and other things that we put up with.
    Sometimes though they are surprisingly loveable. And so are we.
    A good match, men and women.

  200. Compare how the British, French, German, Portuguese, Dutch and Spanish colonies worked out.

  201. Gab

    I went to Zimbabwe in the late 90s. It was ordered, beautiful buildings, commerce everywhere; took a day trip over the border into Zambia. It was a shithole. Markets selling donated clothing from the UN and other groups was the highlight.

    Now Zimbabwe has followed Zambia and it too has become a third world shithole.

  202. egg_

    A frozen chihuahua would be very effective against African groups.

    Do they fear voodoo or summut?

  203. twostix

    That’s a very Irish observation.

    Nah it’s an Australian’s observation. I do not feel the need to kowtow to 20th century british propoganda anymore.

    We must enter this century with our eyes open.

    And as history shows the anti-imperialists were completely correct. The british could not sustain the self deception for long, it did corrupt the british mind (to this day) and britain turned into the empire, as predicted.

    After the Boer war and its excesses, importantly against white people, the British were presented with their two faces: their external face of tough empire warriors ready to massacre spear carrying zulus, Indian street shitters, african retards, and now apparently south african whites vs their internal face as the Nicest People In The World politely bringing good morals and civilisation to the shithole world.

    Except how did rounding up whites and putting them in concentration camps in South Africa fit into that? It didn’t.and they were exposed to their hypocrisy.

    So they chose to try being the Nice People externally and the empire promptly collapsed.

  204. OneWorldGovernment

    Isn’t Botswana another of those countries where the evil stinking eco-loons like WWF got ‘The Bushmen of The Kalahari’ pushed out of their traditional hunting grounds into ‘remote community settlements’?

  205. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How’s the NZ economy these days, politics aside?
    If I take my 6L bogan mobile there, it’ll likely appreciate.

    They have an internal physical mechanism of creative destruction, called earthquakes.
    Insurance provides continual renewal; they are always doing reconstruction work.
    They have a strange penchant for leftist female politicians, which drags them down.
    The National Fleet, as seen with my own eyes recently on the roads, is falling apart.
    Hairy spent much time explaining to me what all these old cars were called: Ford Escort etc.

  206. egg_

    The UK did pretty well when they were governing the shitpots overseas but they can’t adjust to the fact that the shitpots followed them back to the UK.

    The frog Gendarmes seem to be doing a better job of things.

  207. Geriatric Mayfly

    Why can’t these weak policewomen carry chihuahuas in their purses? Like Paris Hilton? Or Reece Witherspoon in those dreadful movies? Then they’d all pass.

    Just the names alone would frighten the loin cloth of a Jungle Bunny. Pistol and Boo. A group though, might even respond with involuntary bowel movements if Lucifer and Chopper were presented.

  208. H B Bear

    Compare how the British, French, German, Portuguese, Dutch and Spanish colonies worked out.

    Don’t forget the Belgians and Italians. Mostly it was a question of timing – the later you got into the colonial game the bigger the sh1thole you ended up with.

  209. twostix

    Unfortunately as the countries with the ability raced each other to colonise the world, being enemies, should the British just stayed at home and let the French and Germans claim everything?

    Abandon 20th century knee jerk thinking.

    The issue isn’t colonialism which was largely righteous and done with clear eyes and clear hearts and open motives.
    It’s the hypocritical mental state and world of lies of the british comfortable classes in the late empire and what that did. To sustain their world they created immense amounts of internal propoganda giving the british (themselves) permission to lie to themselves about what they really were and what the empire was. Which corrupted the british mind to this day.

    They were warned what it would create, we see what it created.

  210. egg_

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2609457, posted on January 14, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    Beats Sydney (may use car as Co. vehicle – so renewball).
    Cool but humid in Auckland?

  211. egg_

    Don’t forget the Belgians and Italians.

    Spaghetti gumbo?

  212. egg_

    Didn’t catch the audio but the ticker on ABC TV Noon News said summut about ‘community cohesion’ in relation to African gangs.
    The stock muzzo response to local acts of Islamic terrorism?

  213. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Being spoilt doesn’t make you a better person it just makes you spoilt.

    The Princess Margaret syndrome. Someone way upthread said ‘The Crown’ series probably didn’t recognize the level of demanding entitlement she displayed in private as well as in public.

    That is unfair. The series actually does quite well in dramatizing the difference between Elizabeth the Dowdy and Margaret the Entitled, who no way was going to give up her HRH privileges for the sake of true love (contrast to Edward the Foolish), or even when deciding to, as it were, go to Harlem in ermine and pearls. She apparently was pretty much as depicted, a spoiled young woman dipping her toe into the aristocratic arty edges of real life, except she didn’t let go of railing against the ‘impertinence’ of considered underlings and others out there.

  214. struth

    It’s the hypocritical mental state and world of lies of the british comfortable classes in the late empire and what that did. To sustain their world they created immense amounts of internal propoganda giving the british (themselves) permission to lie to themselves about what they really were and what the empire was. Which corrupted the british mind to this day.

    They were warned what it would create, we see what it created.

    Yeah, what a pack o’ c…ts.

    Terrible things those British and what they did for the world.
    The bastards weren’t even perfect.

  215. cohenite

    the British were presented with their two faces: their external face of tough empire warriors ready to massacre spear carrying zulus, Indian street shitters, african retards, and now apparently south african whites vs their internal face as the Nicest People In The World politely bringing good morals and civilisation to the shithole world.

    Atrocities by the British are a relative thing, compared to communism, fascism, islam etc. I don’t think the social structure of the Brits, even simplified whereby the exterior of toughness has been usurped by the polite interior, has led to the chaos now developing there. That chaos is a product of essentially communism usurping British legal and social institutions, the best ever, and using them to facilitate communism and increasingly islam. It is classic Gramsci and alinsky methodology and theory. The Brits, like the rest of the Western world aren’t at war with themselves but at war with a parasitic interloper.

  216. struth

    Time out

    Apologies to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Excessive Pixel Use.

  217. Neil

    Compare how the British, French, German, Portuguese, Dutch and Spanish colonies worked out.

    Compare North America to South America

  218. twostix

    Also, for Australians after the british completely abandoned us in ww2 after spending a century telling us to not build up our own navies and armies too much (don’t go getting too many ideas about your place in the world colonials) it’s pretty weak to continue falling over ourselves saying how great they are.

    They’re shit.

  219. Stimpson J. Cat

    The same.

    Sure they would have.
    Goony f$cking goo goo Gus.

  220. Baldrick

    Via TheirABC:

    Donald Trump’s nukes strategy could see US ‘blundering into nuclear war with Russia’, critics fear.

    And who are these ‘critics’?

    Bruce Blair, a former nuclear missile launch officer who co-founded Global Zero, which advocates the elimination of nuclear weapons

    But they left out the bit about Bruce Blair kicking on Hillary Clinton’s campaign in Ohio in 2016.
    How very ABC.

  221. egg_

    It’s the hypocritical mental state and world of lies of the british comfortable classes in the late empire and what that did. To sustain their world they created immense amounts of internal propoganda giving the british (themselves) permission to lie to themselves about what they really were and what the empire was. Which corrupted the british mind to this day.

    The march through the institutions of Socialism likely cucked the Imperialists’ strength of resolve and purpose.

  222. twostix

    Yeah, what a pack o’ c…ts.

    Terrible things those British and what they did for the world.
    The bastards weren’t even perfect

    Lol for Australian conservatives there will always be an (1830’s) England.

  223. cohenite

    In other news Muscle Beach Party is on at 1.15 on 9 affiliate Gem. There’ll you catch a glimpse of the pulchritude of Annette, post Mickey Mouse after the restraining bra was discarded, former Mr Olympia Larry Scott (before Arnie and the current freaks) and the fabulous Peter Lupus.

  224. egg_

    a former nuclear missile launch officer who co-founded Global Zero, which advocates the elimination of nuclear weapons

    Cuck, for short.

  225. cohenite

    They’re shit.

    I’m picking up a subtle anti-British attitude here.

  226. mh

    I”ll never vote for any Federal candidate again that does not have a policy of severely cutting the budget of the ABC.

  227. Geriatric Mayfly

    The infiltration of Iberian genes into South America wasn’t exactly a marriage made in heaven.

  228. Muddy

    Also, for Australians after the british completely abandoned us in ww2 after spending a century telling us to not build up our own navies and armies too much

    Utter bollocks. To both.

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