Wednesday Forum: January 17, 2018

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  1. Tom

    Thanks, JC and CL. Laughed out loud at you two defending Brigitte Bardot’s hippy feel-good politics. #NothingWrongWithBeingPussyWhipped.

  2. jupes

    The ABC apparently still completely unaware that Trump has released his fake news awards.

    Go figure.

  3. H B Bear

    The only thing worse than Adelaide rap is abo rap, amiright Testes?

  4. Compare SA (peaking) at $11.00 per kwh. US (some) retail at $0.11 per kwh

  5. JC

    Ya know Cohenite, I don’t see the head prefect thing as a putdown especially with the level of muppetry that’s shown up here.

    Recently, several people have complained about the muppetry. You should take that on board.

  6. RobK

    Tom

    #2613003, posted on January 18, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    I’ll pay that as rejoinder of the day. Well done.

  7. Tom

    Jupes, you should know the routine by now. Their ABC and Fakefacts won’t run the Trump fake news awards story until they have run it through their climate models.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle

    Listen, there would be a lot of meat found if an investigative unit puts their collective minds on it and looks into the the Clinton Crime Foundation. But Smith won’t have any part of it.

    JC – Here you go.

    FBI Investigating Millions Of “Mishandled” Dollars Funneled From Australian Govt To Clinton Foundation

    The FBI has asked retired Australian policeman-turned investigative journalist, Michael Smith, to provide information he has gathered detailing multiple allegations of the Clinton Foundation receiving tens of millions of mishandled taxpayer funds, according to LifeZette.

    I don’t look at Lifezette but it is Laura Ingraham’s politics blog. Pretty high in Alexa ranking according to the wiki.

  9. Wind in VIC 261MW. At $13,000 per MWh

    In one hour the blow it out your arse people 261 x 13,000 = $3,393,000. Is this correct?

  10. Anne

    Brigitte Bardot’s hippy feel-good politics.

    I knew it.

  11. Rabz

    Didn’t Bardot denounce moozleys for their appalling cruelty to animals?

  12. Tom

    FBI Investigating Millions Of “Mishandled” Dollars Funneled From Australian Govt To Clinton Foundation

    Thanks, Bruce. A link for the remembery.

  13. jupes

    The FBI has asked retired Australian policeman-turned investigative journalist, Michael Smith, to provide information he has gathered detailing multiple allegations of the Clinton Foundation receiving tens of millions of mishandled taxpayer funds, according to LifeZette.

    Sure Bruce but you realise that we are talking about the same people who investigated Hillary Clinton’s top secret emails on her unclassified computer and the bloke whose credibility was shredded when he claimed Vic plod was about to arrest TLS? And this was before he was found living in Cathy Jackson’s shed.

    Sorry if I don’t get too excited about it.

  14. Tel

    The FBI has asked retired Australian policeman-turned investigative journalist, Michael Smith, to provide information he has gathered detailing multiple allegations of the Clinton Foundation receiving tens of millions of mishandled taxpayer funds, according to LifeZette.

    It’s very important that the FBI knows what Michael Smith knows.

    Especially the location of any original documents and/or witnesses.

  15. Rabz

    Jupes – Cory’s comment is a backhander to Li’l Johnny’s comment on his love of Bobby Zimmerman’s tunes.

  16. testpattern

    Pope apologises to victims of abuse by clergy in Chile

    Fake news. Pell taught him how to say BARLEES and BOYSCOUTS HONOUR with his fingers crossed behind his back.

  17. Gab

    Video and story: The most pro-Trump town in America where 95% of votes cast were for Trump.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/roberts-county-year-pro-trump-town-america/story?id=52364233

  18. Snoopy

    I think someone alerted Laura Ingraham to Smith’s blog post and she simply repackaged it.

  19. JC

    Bruce

    The FBI has asked retired Australian policeman-turned investigative journalist, Michael Smith, to provide information he has gathered detailing multiple allegations of the Clinton Foundation receiving tens of millions of mishandled taxpayer funds, according to LifeZette.

    “I have been asked to provide the FBI with further and better particulars about allegations regarding improper donations to the CF funded by Australian taxpayers,” Smith told LifeZette.

    Bruce, the first para suggests that it is factual. Then, the quote shows Smith’s saying the FBI has asked him to investigate this for them.

    So let’s go through this slowly. The FBI, despite these recent twists, is a very conservative organization. It bypasses the Australian Federal police and goes to Michael Smith and asks him to investigate the story for them.
    Lets think about this. The FBI has received all sorts of rebuke for dealing with the dude who wrote the Trump dossier because he was an intel outsider. However they rush to a cuck living in a garden shed with a history of fucked up investigative reporting to suss out the Clinton/Gillard connection.
    You don’t find this a little laughable. You also raise no doubts about where you’re reading this – Zero fucking Hedge.

    Let me explain to you what would have occurred. Smith contacts the FBI saying he has the goods on the scandal. The FBI says, tell us what you have, like they would do with any member of the public contacting them by phone or email to report a federal crime. They even have a website for it, with the email address and phone number. You or I could call them if we wanted and report a US federal crime.

    This, in Smith’s mind, morph’s into the FBI contacted him.

    As they say in Harlem “see wha i’m sayin?”

  20. testpattern

    Fox News and Russian state media are promoting a conspiracy theorist’s California secessionist ploy

    ‘Fox News is promoting what it calls a bid by “conservatives in California so fed up with liberals running their state” to “break away” from the state and form a “New California.” What Fox didn’t mention is that the secessionist ploy is being led by a conspiracy theorist.’

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/01/17/fox-news-and-russian-state-media-are-promoting-conspiracy-theorists-california-secessionist-ploy/219089

    https://www.rt.com/usa/416118-new-california-declares-independence/

  21. JC

    One more thing …moving down the chain a little and reading in between the lines.

    Smith contacts the FBI and says he has information relating to a US federal crime. The FBI asks him to send them what he has and possibly ask him in further communication for any additional information.

    This is all quite possible, as it would be incumbent on the FBI to investigate any information coming their way.

    It gets even worse the more I think about it.

    Smith turns this into a story where the FBI has contacted him. If I’m right he’s even more disgusting than I thought.

    Listen, It’s no big deal to contact the FBI. I made contact with them and was interviewed on two occasions. At the time all you needed to do was call them on their New York office number. We believed there was a fraud going on with a phony jerkoff wanting to do FX trades using phony financial statements.

    They even came in to listen to our tapes.

    The other time was little different but along similar lines.

    It’s no biggie making contact with the FBI… if you really, really want to.

  22. H B Bear

    So far today Testes has linked both the J e w i s h Vanity Press and rt.com. You gotta give this stuff away Testes. It will rot your brain faster than the usual cheap port and leaded petrol.

  23. cohenite

    One of the most subtle and egregious technical aspects of alarmism is the notion of equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS). ECS is defined by the IPCC as the change in Global Average Temperature (GAT) from 2XCO2. This has been based on the idea that CO2 hangs around for centuries in the atmosphere blocking heat so even if we lived in caves and produced no more CO2 the heat would continue to accumulate.

    But CO2 is not long lived. It’s residency is much shorter than the IPCC assumes. Additionally, any heating effect from CO2 is subject to Beer-Lambert law which shows that as more CO2 is added the extra heating is subject to a logarithmic decline so that after about 400ppm, which is where we are now, any further heating would almost unmeasurable.

    This has not prevented a new paper from the alarmist Nature journal about ECS which shows still a temperature increase from 2XCO2 of 2.2–3.4 degrees Celsius.

    David Lloyd has picked up on this so while the warning is slightly less it is still there. In fact estimates of ECS have been falling for some time in the scientific literature as David Stockwell showed.

    CO2 has risen from 290 to 410ppm in the last 120 years, an increase of 42% for a GAT increase of 1C. Given the operation of Beer Lambert law the remaining 58% will have a negligible effect. What a scam.

  24. JC

    Cohenite

    Not to be a pedant, but you once totally misrepresented Judith Curry here leaving me open mouthed speechless.

    When you post scientific claims like you are now, wouldn’t it be a little helpful to post supporting links to some of those assertions you’re making. Frankly what you’ve posted are basically unsubstantiated scientific claims. As you don’t have a science background it would be even more supportive to offer up a little evidence, no?

    Don’t take this the wrong way, as I’m really trying to be helpful.

  25. Baldrick

    The FBI has asked retired Australian policeman-turned investigative journalist, Michael Smith, to provide information he has gathered detailing multiple allegations of the Clinton Foundation receiving tens of millions of mishandled taxpayer funds, according to LifeZette.

    Smith is delusional if he thinks he’s the man to bust open the Clinton Crime Foundation.
    Others have tired and died.

  26. JC

    Baldrick

    What makes it even more amusing is that Smith reckons he’s telling the FBI. Why isn’t Smith talking to the Australians when it was out money siphoned off. We’re the victims here – not the US.

  27. Tel

    Smith is delusional if he thinks he’s the man to bust open the Clinton Crime Foundation.
    Others have tired and died.

    Someone might leave a spade leaning up against the door of his garden shed.

  28. Peter Castieau

    Its a bit quiet here at work so have had a little more time than usual to get out the odd tweet and comment or two today. After being alerted to TheirABC not running the Real #FakeNewsAwards I thought I’d pop over for a look at this link http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-18/jeff-flake-compares-donald-trumps-media-attacks-to-stalin/9338652
    I can see no other link on the ABC about the awards. I managed to get a comment posted and it took 28 minutes to appear. They have now closed the thread to any further comments LOL.
    In other news it seems you can have a play list on Spotify unless you are a conservative:

    Australian rock legends Jimmy Barnes and Bernard Fanning have become the latest in a string of high profile Australian musicians to openly criticise Australian Conservatives leader Cory Bernardi and his party’s Australia Day playlist.

    Popular streaming platform Spotify have also moved to distance themselves from the “Australian Conservatives 100” which is intended as a replacement to popular youth station triple j’s annual Hottest 100 countdown. “Spotify has actively supported marriage, gender and indigenous equality initiatives over the last five years, and believes in a diverse and multicultural Australia. We want to make clear we do not endorse this playlist, nor do we have any official ties to the Australian Conservatives party or any other political party.” they said in a statement.

  29. JC

    Let me also say one more thing. It appears Gillard was sucking up to the Clintons and gave away our money to that criminal organization. We will never know if there was any side deals done in person.

    However, what she did was perfectly legal in the sense that she didn’t commit a crime. That’s because governments have a lot of sway how they spend money. The dishonest slapper gave away our money to that crime gang and also likely to be perfectly legal.

    Just goes to show that it does matter who we vote into government, as dishonest scumbags can steal money legally.

  30. cohenite

    Don’t take this the wrong way, as I’m really trying to be helpful.

    I know.

    What would you like?

  31. egg_

    The lovely Anne Fullward on Teh Dumb – Dumber Edition.

  32. egg_

    CO2 has risen from 290 to 410ppm in the last 120 years, an increase of 42% for a GAT increase of 1C. Given the operation of Beer Lambert law the remaining 58% will have a negligible effect. What a scam.

    Hasn’t the Indonesian volcano blown the anthropogenic CO2 figures off the map?

  33. cohenite

    Hasn’t the Indonesian volcano blown the anthropogenic CO2 figures off the map?

    It’s still chugging along:

    http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/data/atmospheric_co2/primary_mlo_co2_record

    The big feature is the NH seasonal scissor pattern.

  34. Baldrick

    What makes it even more amusing is that Smith reckons he’s telling the FBI. Why isn’t Smith talking to the Australians when it was out money siphoned off. We’re the victims here – not the US.

    I’m sure the FBI have bigger fish to fry than the titbits of a shed dwelling ex-shock jock.

  35. jupes

    Let me also say one more thing. It appears Gillard was sucking up to the Clintons and gave away our money to that criminal organization. We will never know if there was any side deals done in person.

    Nevertheless, these are the facts: TLS as Prime Minister gave hundreds of millions of Australian taxpayers dollars to a branch of the Clinton Foundation called the Global Partnership for Education.

    Within a year of being sacked as PM, TLS was appointed chair of the board of the GPFE, therefore pocketing hundreds of thousands of those very same dollars.

    However, what she did was perfectly legal in the sense that she didn’t commit a crime. That’s because governments have a lot of sway how they spend money. The dishonest slapper gave away our money to that crime gang and also likely to be perfectly legal.

    True. Probably the only thing our politicians are competent at is what can only be termed ‘legal corruption’. In fact they are brilliant at it. Note the Persian Dwarf is still drawing a senators salary even as I write this.

    Just goes to show that it does matter who we vote into government, as dishonest scumbags can steal money legally.

    True. Note that the Liberals have also donated (IIRC) tens of millions of Australian taxpayer dollars to the same fund. Brilliant idea Julie Bishop.

  36. Delta A

    Grr. Just caught a snippet of Nein News (sorry, Rabz) and the highly paid, low info bimbo kept praising /lamenting alternately the ‘powa’ situation in SA.

    Lazy pronunciation. And it’s getting quite a workout, with the ‘Toowa down under’ and a promise of up to date news on the ‘owa’.

  37. egg_

    Australian rock legends Jimmy Barnes and Bernard Fanning have become the latest in a string of high profile Australian musicians to openly criticise Australian Conservatives leader Cory Bernardi and his party’s Australia Day playlist.

    Corey to Fanning: “Get over yourself music is for everyone.”

  38. Tel

    This has not prevented a new paper from the alarmist Nature journal about ECS which shows still a temperature increase from 2XCO2 of 2.2–3.4 degrees Celsius.

    Please note that if CO2 starts at 300 ppm then 2xCO2 needs to get to 600 ppm.

    However if CO2 starts at 400 ppm then 2xCO2 is a bigger jump up to 800 ppm.

    That’s why they define it in those terms, because if you double any number, then the amount of logarithmic increase is exactly the same (magic property of logarithms).

    This all depends on the feedback being linear, which it almost certainly is not, given the strong negative feedback caused by evaporation and the fact that warm, moist air rises together with nonlinear properties of water. But the feedback story is something else again.

  39. jupes

    Just listening to a Perth radio station: Mix 94.5 and the two disc jockeys thought they would have a go at the Donald.

    They read out what were no doubt the easiest questions of the cognitive test that Trump recently passed as part of his medical examination.

    They made out that Trump thought he had passed the MENSA test when all he had to do was answer some really easy questions, some of which one of them read out and the other one would answer e.g. Trump had to look at a picture and name a lion and rhino.

    However things didn’t go according to plan when they attempted the (no doubt easiest) maths question. The female DJ didn’t even understand the question and completely stuffed it.

    Trump got 100% LOL

  40. RobK

    Someone might leave a spade leaning up against the door of his garden shed.

    Gas bbqs are always a hazard.

  41. Tel

    Gas bbqs are always a hazard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO25JYAaJC0&index=5&t=20s

    Better ask the expert on that one…

  42. Boambee John

    struth and John Constantine

    There have been several accidents involving heavy trucks in NSW in the last week or so.

    Do you have any thoughts or information on the possible causes? Statistical anomaly? Driver error? Maintenance issues?

    There has been little said on the news as to whether they involve owner drivers or major companies, and less said about the drivers. The latter leads me to suspect that there are things (diversity drivers?) that the MSM would rather we not know.

    Grateful for anything you can add.

  43. Arky

    Taipei zoo.
    Pandas are shit.

  44. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    If you thought Bitcoin was stupid…

    Soy Sauce company is world’s most valuable liquor business:

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/the-worlds-most-valuable-distiller-is-running-out-of-liquor-20180117-h0k0ti.html

  45. cohenite

    Please note that if CO2 starts at 300 ppm then 2xCO2 needs to get to 600 ppm.

    However if CO2 starts at 400 ppm then 2xCO2 is a bigger jump up to 800 ppm.

    I’m not sure if you’re mixing CO2 with Stefan-Boltzmann.

    CO2 is limited in it emissivity by Beer Lambert hence the log effect explained by Archibald

    here

    , although Michael Hammer does a much more technical analysis which I can link to if you are interested.

    Stefan Boltzmann of course measures radiated energy from temperature where, for instance, a 50C rise in temperature has a different change in radiated energy depending on the current value:

    From 200K-250K radiated energy increases from 91-222 W/m^2 – an increase of 131 W/m^2.
    From 300-350K radiated energy increases from 459-851 W/m^2 – an increase of 392 W/m^2.

    How can a 50K (50C) rise in temperature cause such a difference in radiated power for different starting points? That’s the reality we live in, and is expressed in the Stefan Boltzmann equation: E = sigma x T^4.

    This is another area where alarmists fall down as a paper by Pielke shows.

    The key paragraph is:

    [6] At its most tightly coupled, T is the radiative temperature
    of the Earth, in the sense that a portion of the radiation
    emitted at the top of the atmosphere originates at the Earth’s
    surface. However, the outgoing longwave radiation is proportional
    to T4. A 1C increase in the polar latitudes in
    the winter, for example, would have much less of an effect
    on the change of longwave emission than a 1C increase
    in the tropics. The spatial distribution matters, whereas
    equation (1) ignores the consequences of this assumption.
    A more appropriate measure of radiatively significant surface
    changes would be to evaluate the change of the global
    average of T4.

    The alarmist GAT is incorrect because it does not allow for this effect, that is: (A + B)^4 > A^4 + B^4; GAT can increase but the Earth’s Energy Budget (EEB) need not change; conversely, the EEB can vary but the GAT temperature stay the same. Given this how can you measure the greenhouse effect let alone increases in it?

  46. zyconoclast
    #2613073, posted on January 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm

    SA $210/MWh
    Qld $88/MWh

    Why TFF are the mainland Tasmainians not in the streets with torches and pitchforks.

  47. Rabz

    Why TFF are the mainland Tasmainians not in the streets with torches and pitchforks.

    They’re otherwise engaged. Those barrels in disused bank vaults aren’t going to stuff themselves with dismembered corpses.

  48. Tel

    I’m not sure if you’re mixing CO2 with Stefan-Boltzmann.

    You cited the definition yourself, it’s based on CO2 levels doubling, that means twice as much of the stuff. We are supposedly around 400 ppm now, so in order to double we need to get up to 800 ppm.

  49. calli

    However things didn’t go according to plan when they attempted the (no doubt easiest) maths question. The female DJ didn’t even understand the question and completely stuffed it.

    Chortle.

  50. Bruce of Newcastle

    Those barrels in disused bank vaults aren’t going to stuff themselves with dismembered corpses.

    I was amused when I heard that Snowtown now has lots of wind turbines.
    Do they put dismembered bird corpses in barrels?

  51. Oh come on

    As I mentioned yesterday, and probably others have mentioned it prior, but just in case you missed it…

    If you enjoyed watching Milo take apart Jessica Rowe, you will absolutely love this interview with Jordan Peterson. The interviewer is of far higher calibre than Jessica Rowe (she’s still a shrieking harpy, but quicker on her feet), however Peterson is a deeper thinker and a more articulate, meticulous communicator than Milo. The result is an extremely satisfying bloodbath. You don’t often see an interviewee so cleanly KO an aggressive interviewer.

  52. stackja

    BJ 2GB had stories about unhygienic truck cabins. Overseas drivers not aware of height restrictions.

  53. Tel

    How can a 50K (50C) rise in temperature cause such a difference in radiated power for different starting points? That’s the reality we live in, and is expressed in the Stefan Boltzmann equation: E = sigma x T^4.

    They presume linear on the basis that probably the temperature will change only a tiny amount. If the change is small enough then the high power effect can be approximated away. Yes, it’s a bit dodgy but standard calculus.

    This in itself tells you there is no serious belief in catastrophic temperature rise. Zero probability of a 50K change in temperature. All of the theory is based on small changes only.

  54. Andreas

    Why TFF are the mainland Tasmainians not in the streets with torches and pitchforks.

    A lot of people out there still believe the liberal’s privatisation has caused the high prices, also there is zero serious media in SA to examine the situation.

  55. cynical1

    Grow some balls Matt Damon.

    Why?

    He can use George Clooney’s anytime he feels hungry.

  56. JC

    OCO

    I think it was the Tickler who posted it up last night. It’s an excellent interview. I also mentioned how it appeared she had the hots for him towards the second half of the interview.

    He did also, because he tweeted how he thought she was flirting with him!

    But, as the Doc mentioned earlier today. all he really did was say regular and normal things in response to total madness.

    Truth be told, his responses aren’t all that new, as the Cat has been churning over what he said for years. 🙂

  57. Oh come on

    The interviewer is a blind woman throwing haymakers, while he’s a neurosurgeon with a scalpel. The result is that she ends up punching walls while he shreds her brain.

    Peterson has the patience of a saint and is practically in stitches by the end.

  58. egg_

    BJ 2GB had stories about unhygienic truck cabins. Overseas drivers not aware of height restrictions.

    Mo’s at the wheel?

  59. H B Bear

    Why TFF are the mainland Tasmainians not in the streets with torches and pitchforks.

    About half of them are in the queue at Centrelink and don’t want to lose their place.

  60. overburdened

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/woman-humiliated-by-hotel-owners-rant/news-story/8a672c398914c19ae3442194590f54bb
    Firstly, how does this even rate as ‘news’?
    Secondly, what about the hide of a 22yo to try and bludge free accommodation because she is a SM influencer?
    Thirdly, what is the mentality would pay attention to a 22yo ‘influencer’? (answer whining pricks that say they can’t afford to save for a home deposit at a guess)
    Fourthly, ….I dunno. This is a symptom. The disease appears untreatable until the power goes off then the battery runs out in the device, but then everything will be rooted.

  61. Tintarella di Luna

    In that Jordan Peterson interview with the BBC’s finest bombastic narrow-memed harpy Cathy Newman became putty in the hands of a competent man. By midway through the interview she’d succumbed like a giddy schoolgirl, she knew she was totally beaten in the face of polite, quietly-spoken pushback. Totally unprepared for it, none of her usual shrieking pomposity, talk-over tactics and misapplied words-in-the-mouth antics worked. Beautiful to watch, I have watched it a few times today and sent it on to like and unlikeminded others.

  62. Oh come on

    True JC but the way he keeps his head under fire is pretty remarkable, just about all of us would have told her she was a shrieking hysteric (which is true) and the interview would have gone to shit. Nobody’s mind would have been changed. The fact is that many, many people agree with her premises, they would make all of the same assumptions about what they thought Peterson was saying even though that isn’t what he said at all. She was singing from the leftist hymn book shared by many. It’s true that we often refute that hymn book here but not necessarily in a way that would appeal to undecideds, let alone leftists. Peterson did in his calm and clinical demolition of her ridiculous assertions, pointing out the way she was misrepresenting him. Nobody watching could say she came out of that looking good, that she wasn’t totally outmatched.

    You see this in political debates. Each side says their guy smashed the other, yet when you watch the debate it’s pretty clear that neither was particularly dominant over the other. People’s perception of who won is usually driven by their own beliefs. However, nobody could say that Peterson didn’t demolish her, and I’d say she’s usually a pretty strong performer who’s good at railroading guests she disagrees with into positions they don’t hold.

  63. cynical1

    Australian rock legends Jimmy Barnes and Bernard Fanning .

    Who would be lucky to get a pub gig overseas.

  64. Roger

    About half of them are in the queue at Centrelink and don’t want to lose their place.

    Pay that man!

  65. Gab

    Australian rock legends Jimmy Barnes and Bernard Fanning .

    Legends, of course, being euphemism for ‘mossbacks’.

  66. Roger

    What makes it even more amusing is that Smith reckons he’s telling the FBI. Why isn’t Smith talking to the Australians when it was out money siphoned off. We’re the victims here – not the US.

    Quite simply, because none of the mediocrities in authority here gives a shit or understands why they should.

  67. Gab

    About half of them are in the queue at Centrelink and don’t want to lose their place.

    Half? You are a very generous person.

  68. http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/woman-humiliated-by-hotel-owners-rant/news-story/8a672c398914c19ae3442194590f54bb
    Firstly, how does this even rate as ‘news’?
    Secondly, what about the hide of a 22yo to try and bludge free accommodation because she is a SM influencer?
    Thirdly, what is the mentality would pay attention to a 22yo ‘influencer’? (answer whining pricks that say they can’t afford to save for a home deposit at a guess)
    Fourthly, ….I dunno. This is a symptom. The disease appears untreatable until the power goes off then the battery runs out in the device, but then everything will be rooted.

    This mentality is very familiar to anyone who employs modern single females.
    Part of the reason I’ve rarely hired single females under 25yo.

  69. cohenite

    This in itself tells you there is no serious belief in catastrophic temperature rise. Zero probability of a 50K change in temperature. All of the theory is based on small changes only.

    I wish that were true, but alarmists are batshit crazy. Take Hansen for example. In this essay he proves that Earth will end up like Venus and that runaway temperature is on the cards, the Venus Syndrome:

    http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.com.au/2008/12/james-hansens-agu-presentation-venus.html

  70. cynical1

    The harridan never had a chance.

    Classic leftist tactic of chanting slogans and looking for one “gotcha” point.

    Well spoken, fact quoting and confident guests slaughter them.

    It why snowcone just makes sure they don’t get to speak.

  71. Oh come on

    Tinta, you have to wonder why she kept trying. Clearly the misrepresenting of his position wasn’t going to suddenly start working. She ought to have just ended the interrogation when she realised her tactic was failing and started asking him questions for the purpose of learning something. But she kept at it. By the time she moved on to lobsters, she must have known how ridiculous she sounded. ‘So you’re saying we need to organise ourselves like the lobsters?’ How could she not be embarrassed asking a question like that?

    I don’t think that woman is stupid, I’m sure she isn’t. But when you meet someone you disagree with yet is nevertheless clearly far more informed than you and you realise you have zero chance of outwitting them, why would you keep trying to? Why wouldn’t you ask them questions and listen to their answers? Maybe they’re right and you’re wrong?

  72. Tom

    Is it OK to say Ash Barty is a dog and I hope the cute Italian chick (Camila Giorgi) whips her fat bogan ass?

  73. JC

    Fair cop, OCO. I would have told the bint to go fuck herself in the first couple of mins.

  74. nemkat

    No, because bogans don’t get to the Tour in the first place, and bogans don’t get to quit the Tour, then pick up a contract with Cricket Australia,despite never having played the game.
    Other than that, tough…

  75. calli

    LOL. Tom, after going JC and C.L. over the comely, though now elderly, Brigitte, has been mesmerised by a wiggling bottom in a flip skirt!

    😄

  76. Oh come on

    JC: that’s what I mean! And you would be right to do so. She’s a dissembling cow. BUT you wouldn’t have changed minds doing that. People who agree with you would have said she deserved it (she did). People who like her line of questioning would have said you were a woman-hating mansplainer. Zero net change.

    Peterson’s approach would have changed some minds.

  77. JC

    Did you hear the stupid cow recite the disparity in BBC pay males/females? The bint reckons the pay difference is a whole whopping 9%! There’s absolutely no way to count that narrow difference as disparity. It’s a blip.

  78. Farmer Gez

    There will be more and more overseas truck drivers as locals can’t stand the lifestyle for long.
    Trucking companies are crying out for drivers and offering over a hundred grand but the hours are family killers.
    They just don’t know when they will be home as there are so many variables effecting the schedule, not to mention the tax collectors on the way.
    The local blokes who drive are rarely sighted. They’re either on the road or asleep.

  79. JC

    Calli

    She was stunning – possibly the most beautiful woman in the world for the past 100 years. There is a God! Frogs make good looking gals, I reckon. The best in the world.

  80. Oh come on

    I too have watched the interview twice now, and it’s got to the point where I quickly feel embarrassed for her, she just looked so stupid. It was like she was making an effort to interpret what he was saying in the most simplistic, pinheaded manner imaginable.

  81. Snoopy

    Census data shows people born in Sudan make up about 0.1 per cent of Victoria’s population — yet Victoria’s Crime Statistics Agency (CSA) data shows that 8.6 per cent of aggravated burglaries in the state are committed by Sudanese youths.

    If 0.1% of the Victorian Sudanese population is Sudanese then it’s reasonable to assume that approximately (let’s be generous) 20% of them are males be the ages of 13 and 20. That is 0.02 of Victorian population. Therefore they have an offending rate just for aggravated burglary (aka home invasions) 430 times greater than the general population.

    Or am I wrong?

  82. Snoopy

    Part of the reason I’ve rarely hired single females under 25yo.

    For longer than 30 minutes?

  83. Delta A

    it’s got to the point where I quickly feel embarrassed for her, she just looked so stupid.

    She could not compete with him intellectually or verbally and so she continually chose the cheap “so you’re saying that…”

    He wasn’t. And he set her straight again and again.

    Women like her do nothing to promote the cause of her cluey, competent sisters.

  84. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta, you have to wonder why she kept trying.

    oh com on – The bombastic bint has developed no other tactic. She’s not an interviewer she’s into activist j’ism – a la Frank Elly. There is no questions she is intelligent but she’s hiding her intelligence under the feminist bushel and she’s become lazy having honed no other tools to dig deeper than the superficial gotcha she thought she’d have. The interviewer’s intention was never going to be about getting information and learning something from someone who is highly intelligent, very very smart, articulate and a tenured Professor of Clinical Psychology. She lost badly, hopefully she’ll learn from the experience.

    I’m just going to watch it again.

  85. Arky

    I have been surreptitiously looking over bint’s shoulders to look at what shit they look at on their phones.
    Not creepy. Just as a sociological experiment.
    Mostly food and pictures of themselves.
    If this is any indication of what is actually in their heads it explains everything.

  86. Boambee John

    stackja
    #2613093, posted on January 18, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    BJ 2GB had stories about unhygienic truck cabins. Overseas drivers not aware of height restrictions.

    The recent incidents were all on the open road. One involved three trucks and a car on the M1 north of Sydney z(at least three dead). Another seemed to involve a truck not slowing for roadwork, and ploughing into several cars (two dead, a dozen injured).

  87. Snoopy

    Did you hear the stupid cow recite the disparity in BBC pay males/females? The bint reckons the pay difference is a whole whopping 9%! There’s absolutely no way to count that narrow difference as disparity. It’s a blip.

    Just a guess, but I would think that at least 60% of the BBC payroll goes to females. What about that, bitch?

  88. Tintarella di Luna

    Peterson’s approach would have changed some minds.

    Cats here know I have a son who is so far left I have to invite him over to dinner to make sure he’s not fallen off the planet. Even he is very very impressed with Peterson. In fact he’s asked if I am going to see him when he comes to Sydney on 12 March, which of course I am, I’ve my ticket printed and ready to go and I’ve pre-ordered his book which will be released on 23rd January. I know it’s common sense but he puts it with such academic eloquence and backs it up with his research.

  89. Makka

    True. Note that the Liberals have also donated (IIRC) tens of millions of Australian taxpayer dollars to the same fund. Brilliant idea Julie Bishop.

    Indeed, proof that thieving from taxpayers to fund the Clinton Crime Machine is bi-partisan policy.

    Uniparty in action. Population Ponzi, Clinton corruption. We qualify as a shithole.

  90. Tintarella di Luna

    We qualify as a shithole.

    Since at least 5 December, 1972

  91. Farmer Gez

    Mostly food and pictures of themselves.

    Peterson would say these young women are acting on their crustacean instincts. Their place in the hierarchy is looking good to attract a worthy partner. God bless pretty young women.

  92. Makka

    A lot of people out there still believe the liberal’s privatisation has caused the high prices, also there is zero serious media in SA to examine the situation.

    A LOT of Taswegians in SA. Don’t get excited about the average IQ.

  93. cohenite

    Sweden is run by women and they are issuing instructions to their citizens to prepare for an invasion by Russia. Why Russia would want to invade that muslim shithole is a puzzle.

  94. rickw

    Should be required reading for all Australians.

    All cultures are not equal.

    They definitely aren’t, and Australia has been purposefully destroyed using this as a basis.

    Australia had gone from a population of 13 million to 25 million in my lifetime thus far.

    If that’s not purposeful destruction of a culture and country then I don’t know what is.

  95. Top Ender

    A brief review of Peterson’s book – posted from a contributor to Goodreads:

    A book by Jordan Peterson, I won’t be able to do it justice.
    12 Rules for Life is a wonderful book. It is typical Peterson with large amounts of insightful information and wit. The book includes information that I knew, did not know, and information I knew but did not know I knew (like a Peterson lecture).
    There are three main points that I took away from this book:
    1. The world is a horrible place filled with suffering. If you personally don’t suffer, someone you know will.
    2. If you want the world to be better,start with yourself. The more individual people start bettering themselves the potential for the world to be just that little bit better increases.
    3. We should live on the line between order and chaos. We need both for a functioning society. We need to grow and adapt whilst not getting rid of traditions and traditional structures, they might be very important.
    This is a book I would recommend to everyone whether you’re familiar with Peterson or not.
    Clean your room and sort yourself out.

  96. Tintarella di Luna

    Top Ender
    #2613154, posted on January 18, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Thanks for that Top Ender

  97. Gab

    I’ve pre-ordered his book which will be released on 23rd January.

    Your recommendation goes far with me, Tinta. Now I’ll have to get the book.

  98. Arky

    Can’t afford to lose sight of the missus here in Taiwan. Panic sets in. They all look the same and I might never find her again.
    Then I would have to settle for some random bird, and the chances of her being anywhere as good as the present one are slim.

  99. Gab

    And a foreword by Norman Doidge! eXCELLENT.

  100. Top Ender

    Travelling through nuclear test zone west of Jodphur, India. Desert not glowing but is still daytime so…

    Just saw a small convoy of four tanks; yesterday some twin-engine fighters exercising – maybe MIG 29’s. Their castles are most impressive.

    India continues to be a mix of absolute poverty and occasional wealth and power.

  101. Gab

    Can’t afford to lose sight of the missus here in Taiwan. Panic sets in. They all look the same and I might never find her again.
    Then I would have to settle for some random bird, and the chances of her being anywhere as good as the present one are slim.

    What a romantic petal you are, Arky! Pure poetry. 🙂

  102. Mitch M.

    If you enjoyed watching Milo take apart Jessica Rowe, you will absolutely love this interview with Jordan Peterson. The interviewer is of far higher calibre than Jessica Rowe (she’s still a shrieking harpy, but quicker on her feet), however Peterson is a deeper thinker and a more articulate, meticulous communicator than Milo. The result is an extremely satisfying bloodbath. You don’t often see an interviewee so cleanly KO an aggressive interviewer.

    Thanks OCO, first time I’ve heard a debate on this issue that avoids the generalisations and assumptions that so often dominate the public debate.

  103. Tintarella di Luna

    Don’t know if anyone read the article in the Oz with this headline: Public policy on abortion a disgrace it’s not what you think: By the noted tippler Samantha Maiden – see she has a show on Sky anyone know how it’s rating?

    The abortion pill RU486 promised to revolutionise the cost of terminations in Australia, but one side effect has taken policymakers by surprise.

    It is so popular that some private providers of surgical abortion in Australia are shutting up shop. In Tasmania, the sole provider has closed and women face the prospect of flying to the mainland. Yet women who have a miscarriage are still undergoing the same procedure in public hospitals in Tasmania — under the same Medicare item number 35643.

    To put this in context, if next-door neighbours require a dilation and curette at 10 weeks of pregnancy — one for an incomplete miscarriage and another for a legal abortion on request — the Tasmanian government will treat the woman having a miscarriage free in a public hospital, but will insist the woman requiring a legal abortion pay for a plane ticket and a hotel for the same procedure on the mainland, costing up to $500.

    This is an outcome Malcolm Turnbull is apparently comfortable with; the PM brushed away questions in Hobart this week, saying the Tasmanian government was “dealing with it”.

    But how is the Tasmanian government “dealing with it”? Under pressure, it agreed this week to fund some of the cost under a medical travel scheme.

    The Turnbull government, which provides a part-rebate for abortions through Medicare and has RU486 on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, is trying to argue it is not responsible for a mess it helped create. It would cost nothing to show some leadership and encourage Tasmania to find a better solution.

    Let’s consider what will happen to these women sent interstate. According to abortion providers, a woman who undergoes a twilight sedation termination cannot go home alone afterwards or catch a taxi by herself. Who exactly is meant to accompany these women interstate? Does the PM propose they need to pay for two flights and bring a friend? Are we going to send 16-year-olds unaccompanied to Melbourne for a termination?

    Statistically, the largest group of women seeking abortions are mothers. Why should working mothers be forced to take two or three days off work for a procedure that could be done in 10 minutes in a public hospital?

    This is a public policy disgrace driven by middle-aged men who don’t think about the practical consequences of their incompetence. As for the cost, RU486 has failed miserably to live up the front-page hype of “$12 abortion pills” when Julia Gillard put the drug on the PBS.

    Private abortion providers including Marie Stopes have questions to answer too as to why a $38 pill under the PBS is costing women up to $700 in some regional areas.

    Tasmania’s sole abortion provider, Paul Hyland, closed his doors first in Launceston and now in Hobart after 25 years, telling Buzzfeed’s Gina Rushton, the journalist who broke the story, he would be losing money if he stayed open.

    In Cairns, the only provider of surgical abortions for the past 18 years, Michael Carrette, also retired last year and taxpayers are flying women to Townsville, Southport or Sydney for a surgical abortion that could be provided at the Cairns Hospital.

    Back in the bad old days, unmarried Tasmanian women were quietly sent away to the mainland to give birth or seek abortions. For reasons that would appear to defy common sense, the Prime Minister, Health Minister Greg Hunt and the Tasmanian government have decided this indignity is also the method of “dealing with it’’ in 2018.

    Samantha Maiden is the presenter of Live Now on Sky News on Thursday and Fridays at 9.30am.

  104. Delta A

    Then I would have to settle for some random bird, and the chances of her being anywhere as good as the present one are slim.

    But she might be able to cook.

  105. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    India comprises an industrialised nation of around 300 million co-located with a Third World empire of about a billion.

    It gives some indication of where (on a smaller scale) our “leaders” wish to take us, but minus the industry, and with them as the ruling class over impoverished “old” Australians (as the Harijans) and a mass of Third World peasants.

  106. Arky

    But she might be able to cook

    ..
    Hmmmmmmmmm. You have a point.
    No. I’ll stick with the food destroying devil I know.
    I have a pretty good idea the real levels of crazy out there.

  107. Tintarella di Luna

    Your recommendation goes far with me, Tinta. Now I’ll have to get the book.

    Thanks Gab. I find it difficult to concentrate these days, I think bouts of severe depression, high level anxiety and lack of sleep over the last couple of decades has badly affected my brain.

    Trying to discipline myself to read books again over the last couple of years has been hard going but it’s getting better.

  108. Gab

    Keep at it, Tinta. From what I’ve seen of your comments here, I’d say your brain is still functioning very very well. Concentrate levels will improve, of that I’m certain! xx

  109. Nick

    If 0.1% of the Victorian Sudanese population is Sudanese then it’s reasonable to assume that approximately (let’s be generous) 20% of them are males be the ages of 13 and 20. That is 0.02 of Victorian population. Therefore they have an offending rate just for aggravated burglary (aka home invasions) 430 times greater than the general population.

    Strange how the Left can quote any number of ‘stats’ about CO2 levels, though mathematical analysis fails them on issues like this.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Sweden is run by women and they are issuing instructions to their citizens to prepare for an invasion by Russia. Why Russia would want to invade that muslim shithole is a puzzle.

    More likely they will build a wall to keep the Scandi-Moozleys out.

  111. Nick

    Mostly food and pictures of themselves.

    I’m sure in Taiwan you’re getting all manner of selfies along with kawaii pouts and V signs.

  112. dopey

    Good to see Maigret Sets a Trap on ABC today. Something worth watching for a change. Took a while to accept Mr Bean as Maigret. Simenon was a genius, his Maigret novels will give years of enjoyment.

  113. Arky

    Nick
    #2613180, posted on January 18, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    .
    ..
    For a while I wished they would stop staring at me.
    Then I realised foriegners are so rare I was staring when I saw one too.

  114. JC

    Thirteen siblings found chained, starving in California home; parents charged


    Something doesn’t add up with this story. I don’t get it. There are pictures of this strange family in Vegas and group pics of them with Elvis impersonators. Something just doesn’t figure right.

  115. Tintarella di Luna

    Thanks Gab, I really appreciate the encouragement. I absolutely loved reading- as a child it’s what calmed my restless hyperactive nature much to my parents relief. Thankfully my older son found solace in reading when growing up in a chaotic unpredictable household, unfortunately his leftism was acquired at university. Perhaps if and when he has a child things might change. Everyday – Hope is a risk that must be run – George Bernanos

  116. overburdened

    I wonder about the collective snowflake consciousness that the hook was the 22yo felt humiliated as a grab to get people to read the article. Is there no insight or sense of irony?

  117. cohenite

    That Jordan interview is brilliant; the bint doesn’t and will never get it: which is blokes and sheilas are different.

  118. Nick

    For a while I wished they would stop staring at me.
    Then I realised foriegners are so rare I was staring when I saw one too.

    I used to too, thinking I knew them perhaps. I did the same at Changi today with Asians, they all looked familiar lol.

  119. Tintarella di Luna

    Something doesn’t add up with this story. I don’t get it. There are pictures of this strange family in Vegas and group pics of them with Elvis impersonators. Something just doesn’t figure right.

    Come to think of it, has anyone heard anything more about the 58 people murdered at the country music concert at Mandalay Bay? It is all so strangely quiet

  120. overburdened

    Frogs make good looking gals, I reckon. The best in the world.
    I would refer to the Hot/Crazy Matrix. Yes hot but FITH

  121. C.L.

    Most hilarious tweet of the day …

    Jimmy Barnes‏Verified [email protected]

    Why would you listen to anything @corybernardi says, especially about music?

    Comments hammering Barnes are hilarious.

  122. Tintarella di Luna

    Is there no insight or sense of irony?

    snowflakes don’t do ironing. The owner of the pub has put out a couple of statements on his facebook page the last one said that bloggers were not welcome at his pub. Always escalate.

  123. C.L.

    One exchange at the Barnes feed:

    CSG

    Replying to @JimmyBarnes @corybernardi
    Why would anyone listen to what @jimmybarnes has to say about anything….except music.

    [email protected]@Culldogfarms

    Coz we prefer him to fascist Bernardi

    CSG

    I dont think Cory has any great musical talent but “fascist” gets way overused. You cant call everyone you dont like a fascist. Real fascists killed millions of people. Try reading a history book while listening to Jimmy Barnes.

  124. Snoopy

    By the noted tippler Samantha Maiden – see she has a show on Sky anyone know how it’s rating?

    0.29

  125. overburdened

    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/friends-and-relatives-pay-their-last-respects-to-teen-killed-by-falling-chair-in-kuala
    which just shows to go ya that the Fickle Finger of Fate is pointing at you. Love every moment you live I reckon but hey

  126. Tintarella di Luna

    0.29

    Thanks Snoopy, just as a I suspendered

  127. Nick

    Lol, this guy may be worth following:

    Replying to @MickKime @topher_1976 and 3 others
    Blah blah blah, Jimmy always stood up (barely) for a bottle of Jack. He sung about working class for $ but that was his limit. 😂😂😂😂

  128. testpattern

    Sammy the Misunderstood Shark

    Sammy saw Dave Kelly WA’s Minister for Dead Surfies eating chips on Cottesloe Beach. Sammy wanted to meet Dave and join the Sharks Union. Sammy the Great White was just friendly and wanted to make friends.

    https://www.storyjumper.com/book/index/21070498/Sammy-the-Misunderstood-Shark#page/15

  129. overburdened

    Re that Barnes fellow. As with all entertainment people, stick to what brings in the $$$. Being rich from shouting your tits off doesn’t mean that you are still not a fuckwit.

  130. Roger

    Why would you listen to anything @corybernardi says, especially about music?

    Rather than bleating about Bernardi, perhaps the self-styled “working class man” could explain to his followers why their jobs have disappeared & why the wages of those with jobs even haven’t kept pace with inflation, and all in a period of historic economic growth.

  131. C.L.

    Yeah, that Dr Wing Xen dude trolling Barnes is pretty funny.

  132. Tintarella di Luna

    Being rich from shouting your tits off doesn’t mean that you are still not a fuckwit.

    Jimmy just wants to be loved by the luvvies because he thinks it’ll sell more of his recently released book.

  133. overburdened

    He has never picked up anything heavier that a microphone. Working class man my arse

  134. overburdened

    Sheesh does that mean he’s chasing the bucks rather than keeping it real??!! There will be people that dig holes most disappointed

  135. Tintarella di Luna

    He has never picked up anything heavier that a microphone.

    he’s such a screamer, I’ve never really been into his ‘singing’ because it hurts my ears. His daughter Mahalia though is a real talent. Must get it from her mother

  136. Infidel Tiger

    Jimmy Barnes is a no talent bum.

    Cold Chisel sucked. Their only decent tunes didn’t feature his cat [email protected] vocals.

  137. Entropy

    Gab
    #2613174, posted on January 18, 2018 at 9:33 pm
    Keep at it, Tinta. From what I’ve seen of your comments here, I’d say your brain is still functioning very very well. Concentrate levels will improve, of that I’m certain! xx

    Here here!

  138. overburdened

    Currently in the wilds of CQ until next Thursday 13:45. You get a lot of vintage chisel out here. They love it. Dunno how the y would go with the luvvie set #worlds collide He may be snookering himself if the tradies and miners find out but they are a bit busy looking at their phones. And listening to chisel…

  139. overburdened

    IT Steve Prestwich (vale) Forever Now. Don Walker stacks of good shit esp in Catfish. Ian Moss top guitarist in small doses but shit hot and Matchbook is a stand out album with a few flat spots but
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8NRYcPtdTU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xXnmwSw0qg
    Barnes- front man. says it all

  140. Tintarella di Luna

    Jimmy Barnes is a no talent bum.

    Cold Chisel sucked. Their only decent tunes didn’t feature his cat [email protected] vocals.

    I love how you get to the nub of the issue – descriptive, unvarnished truth-telling at its most excoriating. Thank you Infidel Tiger.

  141. nemkat

    Jimmy Barnes is most likely considered an intellectual by the tradies and miners in the wilds of CQ; any inanity he spouted would be thought profound.

  142. JC

    More from the annals of “Hollywood is Fucked”.
    Movie Theater Attendance Hits 24-Year Low, Ticket Prices Rise Nearly 4 Percent

    The US population is 1993 was 260 million. It’s now 323 million. If ticket sales are at a 24 year low, Hollywood is in depression and there’s no other way of looking at it.

    The trouble is that Netflix / series are booming. Netflix, HBO, Showtime are just as left though.

  143. H B Bear

    Why Russia would want to invade that muslim shithole is a puzzle.

    Russians know how to deal with muzzies – just ask a Chechen. If they wanted to, Norway would be empty of Mohammedans within a week.

  144. overburdened

    Nemkat- in the land of the blind the one eyed jack is king. Gotta look at the cattle ur dealing with. Totally agree

  145. overburdened

    Bit like Garrett gyrating like a retarded wind up toy about beds burning or something then skulking back to Avalon, or Bowral of late

  146. JC

    But hey, give her a break, Mrs Macron only started the affair after he turned 15! The age of consent in France.

    The book, Brigitte Macron, l’Affranchie (Brigitte Macron, the Unfettered Woman), has been published as her husband flies to Britain today on his first visit since becoming president in May. The unauthorised biography by Maelle Brun describes the opposition the couple faced in the social circles they frequented. She was 38 and her future husband was 14 and in the same class as her daughter at La Providence Lycee in Amiens when they met.

    An acquaintance of Mrs Macron is quoted by Brun as saying: “She is very reserved about this subject. It is a wound about which she doesn’t talk directly. But she has sometimes told me in passing that she lost all her friends. Friends with whom she went on holiday changed overnight and no longer wanted to speak to her.”

    Mrs Macron has said that they did not fall in love before he was 15 — the age of consent in France.

  147. 132andBush

    Jimmy Barnes is most likely considered an intellectual by the tradies and miners in the wilds of CQ; any inanity he spouted would be thought profound.

    Showing some ignorance and a bit of snobbery there, nem.

    Nearly all would consider his output post Working Class Man as complete crap.

  148. Tintarella di Luna

    But hey, give her a break, Mrs Macron only started the affair after he turned 15!

    So she’s a potatofile

  149. Leigh Lowe

    Re that Barnes fellow. As with all entertainment people, stick to what brings in the $$$. Being rich from shouting your tits off doesn’t mean that you are still not a fuckwit.

    I don’t think he’s that rich.
    Why else would he pump out (cough) “standards” and renditions of some “songbook” or other every year?
    He is to recorded music what Bandana Man is to literature.

  150. testpattern

    #AustraliaDay

    Great Aussie massacres in PNG.

    The sad story of the colonial massacre of Golen Keri, Simbu

    ‘these Australians, by the essence of their premeditated acts, were murderers, and worse than the tribesmen they were killing…I reproduce here the story of the killing of my people by Assistant District Officer Jack Costello and his policemen at Suanule (Sua Creek).’

    http://asopa.typepad.com/asopa_people/2014/09/the-story-of-the-golen-keri-massacre-by-the-australian-administration.html

  151. Nick

    He is to recorded music what Bandana Man is to literature.

    Ouch. True though.

  152. chrisl

    I have just finished the Jimmy Barnes book and I found it a very hard read
    He is a complete f wit!
    You would think after marrying you might stop shovelling drugs into yourself
    After 4 children?
    After 3 stray children turn up?
    After open heart surgery?
    He was very fortunate to have met Don Walker

  153. Tintarella di Luna

    He is to recorded music what Bandana Man is to literature.

    Harsh but fair

  154. overburdened

    you always know you are on the downhill slide when you start to do cabaret. He may end up the Tony Bennet of the 70’s/ 80’s pub rock scene. Sadly he is already proud of it. Like Tony, he will be venerated. Fuck knows why

  155. notafan

    The legal system certainly thinks crime, including sexual crime, is hierachical.

    Did someone tweet Minnie Brain and ask her to explain to the gang raped eleven year old that the pain she experienced was no worse than a twenty seven year getting flashed?

    I’m pretty sure too that physical pain would be hierachical too

    Eleven year old pain to eleventy

    Twenty seven year old, zero.

    Also risk of pregnancy and venerial disease, hierachical.

  156. overburdened

    The roar of the greasepaint and the smell of the crowd etc

  157. Leigh Lowe

    My previous comment about Mr Barnes wasn’t entirely accurate.
    Allow me to rephrase …

    Jimmy Barnes is to recorded music what Stevie Wonder is to championship darts.

  158. notafan

    What’s with Uber style surge pricing of electricity?

    It doesn’t effect demand.

    Who came up with it?

  159. Leigh Lowe

    Q: “What do you call a hopeless drunk who hangs around with musicians?”
    A : “Jimmah”.

  160. max

    Simenon was a genius,

    dopey, he had an astonishing number of women. Didn’t seem to tire him. Wrote a helluva lot.

  161. overburdened

    LL Stevie has great trust in those that dress him for his performances. Some of the archival footage suggests his faith may have been misplaced

  162. JC

    Fan

    It’s the market mechanism used to direct electricity where it’s demanded most. Demand/Supply rationing takes place with price.

  163. DrBeauGan

    But when you meet someone you disagree with yet is nevertheless clearly far more informed than you and you realise you have zero chance of outwitting them, why would you keep trying to? Why wouldn’t you ask them questions and listen to their answers? Maybe they’re right and you’re wrong?

    Can’t do that if you’re a lefty,OCO. Start down that path and where could it end? You could lose all your certainties; you might grow up.

  164. overburdened

    Storybook still one of the great albums.

  165. egg_

    Being rich from shouting your tits off doesn’t mean that you are still not a fuckwit.

    Jimmy just wants to be loved by the luvvies because he thinks it’ll sell more of his recently released book.

    +1

    Gotta milk those “working class men..”

  166. chrisl

    Jimmy has turned into the wanking class man
    Remember the ugly house he built in Bowral
    He spent like there was no tomorrow
    But then tomorrow showed up in the form of receivers
    And he fled to France
    I think the reason he does covers/caberet is because he has so many hangers on to support
    And more could turn up any day!

  167. overburdened

    I could relate the story of the dog that pissed on Stevie Wonder’s leg, but no one is interested in very old jokes

  168. Arky

    Can’t do that if you’re a lefty,OCO. Start down that path and where could it end? You could lose all your certainties; you might grow up.

    ..
    Yep.
    That is what the shreiking hysteria is about.
    The hardest thing to do is realise you are wrong about some very fundamental things.
    People won’t do it. They completely falsify the incoming information rather than have to retool their worldview.
    It is why I am glad I made the journey from left to right.
    You realise you can be mistaken about basic, fundamental things.

  169. overburdened

    Chrisl you see the same story on a less grand scale amongst tradies that are worth basic money on the coast and a stack in the mines. Money doesn’t change the mindset, rather reinforces the self belief. then it falls over

  170. Siltstone

    cohenite
    #2613187, posted on January 18, 2018 at 9:49 pm
    That Jordan interview is brilliant; the bint doesn’t and will never get it: which is blokes and sheilas are different.

    Jordan Peterson is in Melbourne on the 8th of March, Sydney on the 12th, and Brisbane on the 16th.

    https://www.truearrowevents.com/dr-peterson-tour

  171. Leigh Lowe

    OB @ 2245.
    Plenty of sighted people have committed worse fashion crimes than Stevie Wonder.

  172. overburdened

    http://www.news.com.au/national/human-rights-watch-says-australia-needs-to-address-serious-shortcomings/news-story/03c696504d3eb710112bd7ba034897aa
    Now I’m oldish I have adopted the coward’s stance. So glad I will be gone before the dream becomes the reality. Shitbags will rule eventually coz of fairness. Pity the children

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Wanking class man.
    Snort, cackle.

  174. overburdened

    Earth Wind and Fire leap to mind

  175. overburdened

    dunno how to post a picture (refer previous post re age). Got some crackers. As Dr Hook said, ‘I even put some lipstick on, but that just hurt my dad and mom…’

  176. zyconoclast

    Looks like I am not the only one who is annoyed when food is not served in a plate.

    We want plates

  177. Rae

    Camila Giorgi is very pretty.

    A shorter Sharapova. Same pout and glare. But without the screeching decibels.

  178. JC

    I’m reading a little about Jordan Peterson. He commented that if you google “white people” in the search engine you end up with a white and black person. I tried it and it mostly true. The range of white and black is about 50/50.

    Peterson is right. Those scumbags at Google are fucking around with the algorithms in order to display political correctness.

    He’s delighted that Damore has just launched a lawsuit against the company for unfair discrimination “against a white male” at the same time as it faces another one over the gender pay gap. “Google is in the wonderful position as far as I’m concerned of being harassed legally on both sides, which is exactly what they deserve for playing identity politics.”

    Nor does it end there. “Look up ‘white couple’ on Google Images,” he says suddenly. “Then look up ‘black couple’, then ‘Asian couple’.” Peterson and I look together. If you Google ‘white couple’, the first four images on the top row show a white woman with a black man. “This is way more terrifying than you think, because it means that Google is messing about with algorithms that present information to the public according to a built-in political agenda.”

  179. Arky

    Jordan Peterson.
    Who is going?
    I remember Mater and Gunner and Doolittle and Nilk.
    Gunner and Nilk. Get my email off SD.
    I’m thinking the $135 tickets.
    https://www.melbournerecital.com.au/events/2018/12-rules-for-life-an-antidote-to-chaos

  180. notafan

    Thank you JC.

    Still seems absurd as most retail customers are on fixed price and don’t react to the surge pricing.
    My daughter tells me it is still 31c at 11.30 pm in Melbourne.
    Exactly what I don’t miss.
    It’s a glorious winter’ s day here, hard not to enjoy even stuck on a bus.
    In fact it’s a bit too warm.

    I see snow covered mountains, and windmills, bloody windmills.

    I have a pocket full of olives we picked at Alberbello railway station yesterday.

    First time I’ve been close enough to an olive tree to actually see the fruit, so couldn’t resist.

    There were lots squashed on the platform so figured no-one would mind.

    There was a black cat in one of the olive trees.

    I did not know they ate olives.

  181. JC

    No Arky. I don’t go to that sort of stuff.

  182. Old School Conservative

    Camila Giorgi carries some baggage too. She and dad have been accused of 4 financial scams relating to success fee sharing.

  183. Arky

    I guess you could have dinner with Monty instead.

  184. C.L.

    Let’s not forget the last time the talentless Scottish idiot demanded somebody stop playing his music:

    Singer Jimmy Barnes asks anti-Islam rally groups to stop playing his songs at protests.

    “I only want to say the Australia I belong to and love is a tolerant Australia. A place that is open and giving.

    “It is a place that embraces all sorts of different people, in fact it is made stronger by the diversity of its people.”

  185. Arky

    I mean, if you had to choose between watching a fat socialist c*** stuff his face and going to see Peterson…

  186. C.L.

    Let’s consider what will happen to these women sent interstate. According to abortion providers, a woman who undergoes a twilight sedation termination cannot go home alone afterwards or catch a taxi by herself.

    It would be hard to envisage the possibility of me caring less.
    I’m sure local feminists will put them up in their homes for a night or two.

  187. jupes

    Well, half a day after its release the most trusted name in news in Australia, you know, the one without bias or agenda, has still not reported Trump’s fake news awards.

    Looks like their editorial meeting turned into a long lunch.

  188. Arky

    Between 2010-2014, the Guttmacher Institute estimates that approximately 56 million abortions occurred each year around the globe. This is up from an estimated 50 million abortions per year between 1990-1994.

    ..
    If abortions after sixteen weeks run at around 5% that means approximately 2.5 million human heartbeats are deliberately stopped each year.
    Or to put it another way, the entire population of Australia terminated every ten years.

  189. Arky

    The God Moloch lives and breathes again.
    We are Moloch.

  190. Ubique

    I could relate the story of the dog that pissed on Stevie Wonder’s leg

    I could relate the story of Stevie Wonder, whirling his dog around his head in a department store, was queried by the shop assistant as to whether she could help him with anything. “No thanks”, said Stevie, “I’m just having a look around.”

    But I won’t.

  191. The Beer Whisperer

    If you enjoyed watching Milo take apart Jessica Rowe, you will absolutely love this interview with Jordan Peterson. The interviewer is of far higher calibre than Jessica Rowe (she’s still a shrieking harpy, but quicker on her feet), however Peterson is a deeper thinker and a more articulate, meticulous communicator than Milo. The result is an extremely satisfying bloodbath. You don’t often see an interviewee so cleanly KO an aggressive interviewer.

    Fuck me dead.

    Even as an obviously smart woman, she’s a gnat arguing with a God. Worse, trying to entrap one.

    The whole thing is embarrassing and she just.keeps.digging. He is conducting a conversation while she tries feebly for gotchas. In a just world, she should never interview again.

  192. The Beer Whisperer

    Camila Giorgi is very pretty.

    A woman who never smiles ain’t pretty. What did they do? Dump her head into a bucket of botox? How does she eat?

  193. Oh come on

    DrBeauGan
    #2613240, posted on January 18, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    But when you meet someone you disagree with yet is nevertheless clearly far more informed than you and you realise you have zero chance of outwitting them, why would you keep trying to? Why wouldn’t you ask them questions and listen to their answers? Maybe they’re right and you’re wrong?

    Can’t do that if you’re a lefty,OCO. Start down that path and where could it end? You could lose all your certainties; you might grow up.

    True. Maybe you can split the world into people who are willing to lose all their certainties and grow up, and those who aren’t. The latter group are the pedestrian intellects.

    You can further refine those in the former group. Those that gradually come to abandon their certainties over a decent period of time are comfortably above average intelligence. Those that can see the weaknesses in their certainties and abandon them relatively quickly are abnormally intelligent. Those that can almost instantaneously abandon their certainties because their weaknesses are plainly evident and ego is of trifling importance compared with being correct – they are near-geniuses and above.

    I hope to see the interviewer, in a few years, telling the story of her awakening, and how it stemmed from the experience of being completely routed and how this made her question the premises that underpinned her entire worldview. It could happen. Jordan Peterson is an incredible guy, a truly exceptional individual. Having that kind of exchange with someone like him could very well prompt someone to profoundly re-evaluate their perspective.

  194. To be crystal clear: Nobody has ever accused Jimmy Barnes of having any smarts.

  195. Snoopy

    Barack Obama’s birthday message to Michelle is swoon material

  196. Snoopy

    A wedding photographer has been accused of fat shaming for photoshopping a couple to look thinner

    ⚠ Link features swimsuit photos.

  197. Top Ender

    If I recall rightly it was Ian Meldrum who gave some advice to Jimmy Barnes.

    “Stop screaming the words.”

    Barnes ignored it.

  198. Top Ender

    Dragging him into court is not an option:

    Yesterday, a teen thug involved in street gangs who kicked a ­policeman in the head on Boxing Day failed to make a court appearance after refusing to board a bus at the detention centre where he was held. Children’s Court magistrate Jane Gibson adjourned the case briefly to ascertain whether the teen was ill or just refusing to get on the bus.

    Following the break, a representative from Youth Justice said the youth just “didn’t want to get on the bus”.

    Ms Gibson said she would not give permission for a video link connection under such circumstances and set a new court date for next month.

    Link

  199. notafan

    I am now in Pescara JC.

    Recovering from being driven, without my permission, through two dreadful long tunnels.

    No idea what we are going to do now we are here either.

  200. notafan

    Apparently he had been biding his time to square up with police over a 2016 arrest.

    About to start year 12.

    What’s the plan?

    Future Labor lawyer?

    Keep thinking you’re in charge and it’ll be year 12 behind bars.

    the boxing day African kicker story at the Age

  201. Just listening to a Perth radio station: Mix 94.5 and the two disc jockeys thought they would have a go at the Donald.
    They read out what were no doubt the easiest questions of the cognitive test that Trump recently passed as part of his medical examination.
    They made out that Trump thought he had passed the MENSA test when all he had to do was answer some really easy questions, some of which one of them read out and the other one would answer e.g. Trump had to look at a picture and name a lion and rhino.
    However things didn’t go according to plan when they attempted the (no doubt easiest) maths question. The female DJ didn’t even understand the question and completely stuffed it.
    Trump got 100% LOL

    That would be the question where the person being tested has to start at 100, and count downward five times, subtracting 7 each time.
    i.e. say out loud: 93 – 86 – 79 – 72 – 65

  202. Myrddin Seren

    Corey is top of the page at the Daily Telegraph – for now.

    Well played.

  203. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    (AFP) – French film legend Brigitte Bardot attacked the #MeToo movement Wednesday, claiming that actresses who complain of sexual harassment were just looking for publicity.
    “The vast majority are being hypocritical and ridiculous,” she told the French magazine Paris Match.

    “Lots of actresses try to play the tease with producers to get a role. And then, so we will talk about them, they say they were harassed,” declared the 83-year-old Bardot.

    “I was never the victim of sexual harassment. And I found it charming when men told me that I was beautiful or I had a nice little backside,” said the actress, who became a sex symbol overnight for “And God Created Woman” in 1956.

  204. W Hogg

    Top Ender
    #2613310, posted on January 19, 2018 at 3:33 am
    Dragging him into court is not an option:

    Who knew that if you don’t want to go to court you don’t have to? Here I was thinking they could charge you with contempt, or proceed in your absence. No, turns out they just adjourn.

  205. one old bruce

    Australia Day is the day we all first met (began to meet): from elsewhere – soldiers, convicts, merchants; from this land – native tribal people, Men and women all – something we had in common from the start, despite 50k or more years of separation.

    Australia Day is the anniversary of the start of the relationship. Like any marriage, ups and downs, cries for divorce, reconciliation, uneasy truce… and we persist. Celebrate that tenacity.

  206. feelthebern

    The trouble is that Netflix / series are booming. Netflix, HBO, Showtime are just as left though.

    Why would you pay $20 to see a movie, on a dirty seat, while every dick around you is talking, texting & farting?
    I can do that at home for free.

  207. Dianeh

    What sort of dumb f**k musician thinks they can dictate who listens to their music?

    Don’t want conservatives to listen/buy your music? They are half the population. Only a f**king idiot insults half their market.

    Anyway, Corey couldn’t buy this publicity. It is just the thing to make conservative leaning low info voters take notice of him.

  208. Geriatric Mayfly

    Who knew that if you don’t want to go to court you don’t have to? Here I was thinking they could charge you with contempt, or proceed in your absence. No, turns out they just adjourn.

    I remember it well. A couple of floozies were late attending upon Dyson Heydon at the TURC. In less than 30 minutes he issued a warrant for their arrest. They turned up, albeit late, and I cannot remember what excuses were written on their note from Mum.

  209. Zatara

    The ultimate illegal alien boater.

    Seven and a half years and 30,000 miles in a kayak. Now that’s a dedicated immigrant.

  210. calli

    zyconoclast
    #2613260, posted on January 18, 2018 at 11:11 pm
    Looks like I am not the only one who is annoyed when food is not served in a plate.

    We want plates

    Yep. Nothing beats having your dinner served on a manky old timber cutting board. Or a roofing slate.

    If clubs have to replace their perfectly good crockery regularly for health reasons, how do restaurants get away with this unhygenic dross?

  211. Tintarella di Luna

    If clubs have to replace their perfectly good crockery regularly for health reasons, how do restaurants get away with this unhygenic dross?

    Sensible as always calli

  212. Tel

    Don’t want conservatives to listen/buy your music? They are half the population. Only a f**king idiot insults half their market.

    Pop musicians have been insulting conservatives for as long as I can remember.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8

    Disclaimer: I don’t like rap… but they guy is pissing off the right people, which is fine by me.

  213. herodotus

    “BMW to charge annual fee for Apple CarPlay”.
    Two rip-off merchants in collusion.

  214. Bruce of Newcastle

    Muslims say they fear backlash.
    They fake a backlash incident.
    Fake is found out.
    Now the same muslims say they fear backlash for their fake backlash.

    Canadian Muslim Community Fears Actual Backlash After Hate-Crime Hoax

  215. Tel

    Bruce of Newcastle #2613356,

    You are thinking of “Karma” but that’s a completely different and unrelated religion.

  216. johanna

    BoN, have you seen this story about raptors allegedly using bits of burning stick during bushfires to start spot fires that chase out small prey?

    If it is true, presumably this would be only happen during low intensity fires, not the huge conflagration kind.

    Some interesting comments about bird behaviour below the article as well.

  217. Farmer Gez

    ABC news.
    A new solar farm in Gippsland. We’re saved!

  218. chrisl

    American correspondent to 3aw introducing the corporate tax cuts in America (causing Apple to bring $250billion home) introduced as the congress approved tax cuts!
    And that is how you do media bias!

  219. NormaP

    For those who don’t have a digital subscription to the Tele, Cory’t story fills the front cover. This is the sort of publicity he needs to grow his party. If his membership list grows this week, he might figure out that headlines do the trick.

  220. stackja

    Farmer Gez
    #2613361, posted on January 19, 2018 at 7:55 am
    ABC news.
    A new solar farm in Gippsland. We’re saved!

    Battery backup for a cloudy day?

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