Shutdown showdown

This is the deal. The Democrats won’t allow the Federal Government to pay its bills unless the Republicans allow in enough illegal migrants so that Republicans can never again win a presidential election. If it weren’t for PDT you know how it would go. But there is PDT so we shall see. From Gateway Pundit.

As previously reported, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders released a blistering statement late Friday night on the Senate Democrats blocking funding the federal government in favor of amnesty for illegal alien DACA recipients.

The Trump administration is putting America first and the Senate Democrats dug in their heels Friday night, shutting down the government in favor of illegal aliens.The House budget resolution failed a cloture vote in the Senate on a largely party line vote, 50 to 49.

The Schumer Shutdown went in to effect shortly after midnight Saturday.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) went on a tweetstorm then released a full statement on the government shutdown.

Pelosi gave President Trump an “F” for failure:

Tonight, on the eve of the first anniversary of his inauguration, @realDonaldTrump earned an ‘F’ for failure in leadership.

Pelosi accused Republicans of being blinded to their duties to the American people as she protects illegal aliens. Makes sense.

Tonight, on the eve of the first anniversary of his inauguration, @realDonaldTrump earned an ‘F’ for failure in leadership.

.@realDonaldTrump, @HouseGOP, & @SenateGOP were so obsessed with the , they were blinded to their duties to the American people. Despite controlling the White House, House, & Senate, their incompetence meant they couldn’t keep government open.

Pelosi kept whining…

During the 2013 , @realDonaldTrump said of Pres. Obama “the problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top…”

But as President, he says “our country needs a good shutdown.”

Pelosi ended her tweetstorm by saying there is no such thing as a “good shutdown”:

Let me be clear: there is no such thing as a “good shutdown.”

 

In Pelosi’s full statement she bragged about protecting illegal invaders (DREAMERS):

“Tonight, on the eve of the first anniversary of his inauguration, President Trump earned an ‘F’ for failure in leadership.

“President Trump and Congressional Republicans’ obsession with passing a tax scam to benefit the wealthiest and corporations has blinded them to their responsibilities to the American people.  Despite controlling the House, Senate and White House, the Republicans are so incompetent, so negligent that they couldn’t get it together to keep government open.

“President Trump said of President Obama at the time of the 2013 GOP Government Shutdown, ‘the problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top… The President is the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.’

“Now as President, President Trump tweets that ‘our country needs a good shutdown.’  There is no such thing as a good shutdown of government.  Republicans’ total inability to govern is once again threatening our economy, weakening communities, and dangerously depriving the military of the certainty they need to keep our nation safe.

“I am proud of House and Senate Democrats’ unity in insisting on a budget that supports our military and the domestic investments that keep our nation strong, and that honors our values by protecting the DREAMers.

“I hope that we can now conduct bipartisan negotiations where we find our common ground to honor our responsibility to meet the needs of the American people.”

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69 Responses to Shutdown showdown

  1. BorisG

    I am always against the shutdowns by either party. But it does demonstrate Trump’s failure as a deal maker, doesn’t it?

  2. BorisG

    also republicans threatened a shutdown many times during Clinton and Obama years and went ahead with one a couple of times. Now they are getting a bit of their own medicine.

  3. I don’t know who BorisG is, but one thing is for sure that is a fucking idiot.

  4. RobK

    Boris,
    It will be interesting to see how it pans out. There have been a number of these impasses over the decades. The protracted ones (i cant think of the specific dates) have put a lot of pressure on the public service and bureacrats. The impass is always resolved somehow. I think its too early to can the negotiations over, they have just begun in earnest. Lets wait and see.

  5. J.H.

    The government shuts down every weekend and on public holidays…. The world doesn’t end. Plus, if the government is “shut down” it can’t spend.

  6. Tom

    The Democrats won’t allow the Federal Government to pay its bills unless the Republicans allow in enough illegal migrants so that Republicans can never again win a presidential election.

    Most accurate summary I’ve read so far.

    And the Democrats and their Antifa base plan to ride their fake polls all the way to the 2018
    mid-terms in November. The prospect of 2016 deja vu all over again is delicious. #StupidFuckingLiberals.

  7. Up The Workers!

    Virulent Leftardism.

    The condition where arrant stupidity is regarded as a virtue.

    It seems we have a global epidemic of this plague.

  8. Rae

    Whining? Hardly.

    Despite controlling the White House, House, & Senate, their incompetence meant they couldn’t keep government open.

    Pelosi is correct.

  9. I think the Dems may have kicked an own goal with this.

  10. Gary K

    Pelosi is wrong and she knows it.
    For the Republicans to ‘control’ the Senate, they would have to have at least 60 members.
    Spending bills require a 60 vote majority, the failure of the CR to pass belongs totally with the Democrats.

  11. Tom

    You idiot, Googleory, sucking up DNC propaganda like a baby at the teat.

    GOP did NOT control the Senate for Friday night’s money bill vote. They have 51 seats. They needed 60 votes for it to pass. And it had nothing to do with DACA kids, whose status does not expire until March, so there was no Friday DACA deadline. Chuck and Nancy tried to force Trump into an early DACA deal in an unrelated money bill (to ensure no GOP president can ever be elected again, as Steve points). And it blew up in their faces.

  12. Peter

    “This is the deal. The Democrats won’t allow the Federal Government to pay its bills unless the Republicans allow in enough illegal migrants so that Republicans can never again win a presidential election. “

    Absolutely true. But another way of expressing this of course,given that the type of persons they want flooding into the country, is as follows:

    “This is the deal. The Democrats won’t allow the Federal Government to pay its bills unless the Republicans allow in enough illegal migrants so that the country will never again be able to pay its bills”

    These two expressions of the same thing are the fundamental reason why PDT has to fight them. And being Trump I hope he does what Trump does best – take it to the people over the heads of both the Democrats and the P – weak Republican Party and see what voters think about who is responsible.

  13. Oh come on

    The talk of a ‘blue wave’ may be premature. The Dem blowout in congressional generic ballot polling is shrinking:

    A new Marist poll shows the Democratic lead down to six points, and it’s not the only series showing improvements either:

    An NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found that when voters were asked which party’s candidate they’d more likely vote for in their district, 46 percent of registered voters said Democrats, while 40 percent went with Republicans. Nine percent are undecided.

    That shows a sizable decline from December polling, which found Democrats leading by 13 points on generic ballot polling.

    Thursday’s poll found more welcome news for Republicans among registered voters who identify as Independents.

    Among those voters, Republicans led by 2 points, with 38 percent of those voters saying they’d vote for the GOP candidate, while 36 percent said the Democratic candidate. In December, polling found that Democrats were leading among Independent voters by 11 points

    Why would this be? Maybe it might have something to do with the eeeevil, end of America, genocidal, worst legislation ever tax cuts:

    Rather than adjusting to the reality of these tax cuts, Democrats have tried telling taxpayers that they can’t believe their own eyes — or bank accounts — when it comes to finding benefit in these developments. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called an additional $2,000 in bonuses “pathetic … crumbs” last week, a little over six years after calling a $40 uptick every two weeks from the 2011 budget compromise “a victory for the American people.” For those who see $2,000 as a windfall, the “crumbs” remark sounds awful, a form of snobbery that will only play well among the Beltway elite.

    Bear in mind that in most cases, American workers have yet to see any impact from tax reform…and yet a new Survey Monkey poll shows a significant improvement in polling for the tax reform bill, rising from 37 percent approval in that series in mid-December to 46 percent this week…imagine what will happen when the impact of the tax cuts actually hits American paychecks. The cognitive dissonance between Democratic hyperbole and personal voter experience will be massive.

    Yup. Who on earth could have foreseen that extra money in peoples’ paychecks would be popular??

  14. Oh come on

    Pelosi is increasingly senile. You’d think she’d do the dignified thing and quietly retire. Every time you see her on TV, it’s pretty clear she isn’t playing with a whole deck.

  15. md

    It’s very easy to get sucked in by the emotional arguments about the children of illegal immigrants, but the point to remember is that their parents knowingly broke the law and in doing so should have known they were potentially putting their child at risk of deportation.
    We know that many on the left don’t give a damn about these people. As always, they simply are exploiting race for political purposes.

  16. Can’t wait for the yanks to demand that Pelosi, Waters, Schumer and Schiff undergo public medical checks to determine their fitness for office. You have to wonder at the castrati in the democratic wing who, though much healthier than any of the above, cannot command the confidence of enough of their fellows to roll these senile opportunistic fools. I have always thought it was easier to look like an eagle when surrounded by turkeys than the other way round, but if these be examples of democrat eagles, the rest can only be carrion!

  17. Crossie

    GOP did NOT control the Senate for Friday night’s money bill vote. They have 51 seats. They needed 60 votes for it to pass.

    Republicans don’t control the senate because they are too stupid. When Harry Reid and the Democrats were in charge they simply changed the rules so that 51 votes is enough.

    I’m surprised Trump gets anything done with those bozos in charge.

  18. OldOzzie

    Official White House statement on #SchumerShutdown

    The full White House statement:

    Senate Democrats own the Schumer Shutdown. Tonight, they put politics above our national security, military families, vulnerable children, and our country’s ability to serve all Americans. We will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while Democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage over their reckless demands. This is the behavior of obstructionist losers, not legislators. When Democrats start paying our armed forces and first responders we will reopen negotiations on immigration reform. During this politically manufactured Schumer Shutdown, the President and his Administration will fight for and protect the American people.

  19. Crossie

    Pelosi is increasingly senile. You’d think she’d do the dignified thing and quietly retire. Every time you see her on TV, it’s pretty clear she isn’t playing with a whole deck.

    Yet it’s Trump who must be impeached because he is “incapacitated”.

    Besides senile Nancy there is John McCain dying and still refusing to resign. I find this level of devotion to power obscene and sinful.

  20. Oh come on

    That’s not right, Crossie, to give McConnell his due. Legislation can get through via reconciliation, which can pass by a simple majority if the Congressional Budget Office deems the legislation revenue neutral. That’s why the personal income tax cuts are sunsetted, to make the bill revenue neutral over a period of time. Of course it’s very unlikely that the sunset clauses won’t be extended 10 years down the track. That fight is already won.

    However, this spending bill is specifically authorising the government to assume debt to pay for its spending, so it is impossible to make it revenue neutral. Its whole reason for existence is that it isn’t revenue neutral, so it cannot pass via reconciliation.

    IIRC, Harry Reid introduced the ‘nuclear option’ wrt federal judicial appointments. The ability to filibuster legislation still exists, so you still need 60 votes to end a filibuster.

  21. Defender of the faith

    More Kates alternative facts. No explanation for the fact that republican leaders including McConnell openly dismayed by Trump inability to negotiate and chaotic lack of attention to detail. This is incompetence.

  22. Rabz

    Besides senile Nancy there is John McCain dying and still refusing to resign. I find this level of devotion to power obscene and sinful.

    The Emirs of Incumbistan, as Steyn so wonderfully described them.

  23. Bad Samaritan

    Defender (9.14am) It’s touching that you are besotted by Mitch McConnell’s brilliance. Please link to where McConnell predicted Trump’s victory in either the Primaries or General Election so that we too can marvel at his political acumen. Once you’ve done that we’ll too appreciate why you hold him up as someone whose judgement carries weight.

    If you can’t do this one very small thing then we’ll know why you defend faith over reason, won’t we?

  24. Tel

    This is the deal. The Democrats won’t allow the Federal Government to pay its bills unless the Republicans allow in enough illegal migrants so that Republicans can never again win a presidential election.

    Incorrect.

    The US Federal Government can perfectly well pay its bills, providing it keeps the payment to be less than revenue (that is to day, government should live within its means). Yes, government budget really does work like a household budget and this is proof. When you are short of money and having difficulty paying the bills, that’s when you decide what you can do without… there’s a lot of places Trump can still save money, so that’s what he needs to do.

  25. Tel

    No explanation for the fact that republican leaders including McConnell openly dismayed by Trump inability to negotiate and chaotic lack of attention to detail.

    McConnell mostly a Democrat wearing a flimsy disguise, and has worked against Trump the entire time. But even if Trump was willing to deal with that, once they started spreading lies about this “shithole” business (which Trump never said in the first place) that was their choice to trash the negotiations. You simply cannot work with people who make a game of stabbing you the moment your back is turned.

    Trump needs to simply outright cancel Obama’s DACA order, and go back to deporting. The only thing the Democrats understand is power and strength. They have had their chance to negotiate, they chose not to, thanks for playing.

  26. Tom

    Bad Samaritan, Defender of the Faith is a member of a quite exclusive club of trolls: Trump Derangement is all the rage, Abbott Derangement still bubbles along in the MSM and there are many other derangements that go in and out of fashion among our least intelligent zombies in the leftist sheep herd, but Defender of the Faith has chosen Kates Derangement.

    Trolling these idiots is a special talent. Trump is god, but there is a special place in heaven for a classical economist who tortures Keynesian big government trolls.

  27. nemkat

    Can’t wait for the yanks to demand that Pelosi, Waters, Schumer and Schiff undergo public medical checks to determine their fitness for office.
    Maxine Waters is a token Black, like 28 Term CongresCritter John Conyers.
    There for life.
    Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff areall gigantic fundraisers for the Dems.
    Force them out, and it’s all over.

  28. RobK

    … there’s a lot of places Trump can still save money, so that’s what he needs to do.

    That’s how i see it too. If the dems draw this out it wont work well for them, it will rattle left bureaucracy and strengthen national resolve. There will be a lot of loud squealing but also many a sigh of relief that there’s a firm hand on the tiller.

  29. Dr Fred Lenin

    Sounds good tel , TRUMP can close regulatory agencies that are stifling the country ,get rid of heaps of decromat public servants who can only blame their own party for losing their jobs. The decromat communists are discrediting their own brand Trump should make moves on the Clintons. Obama. Sanders mueller most are lawyers so have skeletons in the cy]upboard . Jail some decromat governors for sanctuary crimes ,jail the decromat vote riggers , cleanse the FBI and CIA repaying those sacked with Real Americans .]. A good opportunity to clean house while the communists are on the nose .

  30. RobK

    I watch in anticipation. I suspect Trump may well be a solid performer when the pressure is on.

  31. gbees

    Rae
    #2615038, posted on January 21, 2018 at 6:19 am

    Whining? Hardly.

    Despite controlling the White House, House, & Senate, their incompetence meant they couldn’t keep government open.

    Pelosi is correct.

    You have no idea do you Rae? Senate requires 60 votes to pass a bill. The Republicans have 51 votes. The Democrats therefore are responsible for the shutdown.

    Pelosi is a dope, just like all leftards. Remember she’s the one who suggested that if you wanted find out what was in the Obamacare bill you had to pass it first. Incompetent tool.

  32. If shutting down the government payroll means the Public Servants Unions don’t collect their dues it wont last very long.

  33. Snoopy

    A reminder of how a nasty, spiteful president handled the previous shutdown.

  34. OldOzzie

    Trump Campaign Ad Blasts #SchumerShutdown Democrats: You ‘Will Be Complicit in Every Murder by Illegal Immigrants’

    New York, NY – Hours after Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer led Democrats to shut down the federal government, holding lawful citizens hostage over their demands for amnesty for illegal immigrants, Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. released a campaign ad calling out Democrats “who stand in our way” of progress and who are “complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants.”

    The ad, titled “Complicit,” profiles an illegal immigrant on trial for the murder of two Sacramento police officers who stated his “only regret” is that he “just killed two” and that he wished he “killed more.” It contrasts Democrats, who stand by those who commit acts of “pure evil,” versus President Trump, who was elected to build a wall to stop illegal immigration and keep American families safe.

    The Trump Campaign released the ad on the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s Inauguration as the 45th President of the United States. The powerful new ad reflects the stakes in the illegal immigration debate, and the reasons why the President will not allow the Schumer Shutdown to force his hand and grant amnesty for illegal immigrants.

    “Donald Trump was elected President to build the wall and keep American families safe from evil, illegal immigrants who commit violent crimes against lawful U.S. citizens,” said Michael S. Glassner, Executive Director of Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. “Yet, one year after President Trump’s Inauguration, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats continue to put the interests of illegal immigrants over those of Americans. Our new campaign ad draws attention to the stark contrast between ‘complicit’ Democrats and the President for his full commitment to build a wall and fix our border to protect Americans from drugs, murder and other atrocities,” he concluded.

  35. H B Bear

    Besides senile Nancy there is John McCain dying and still refusing to resign. I find this level of devotion to power obscene and sinful.

    McCain will be going straight to Hell or its non-denominational equivalent. Treacherous and evil.

  36. MPH

    Who do public sector workers usually vote for?

    Who just showed they’re willing to sell out public sector workers?

    The left eats their own again.

  37. Ubique

    There are an estimated 3.6 million “dreamers” in the US today. No wonder the Democrats want them to stay and vote For them. As we know now for certain that none of come from shitholes, there’s no reason any of these illegal immigrants can’t be repatriated.

  38. struth

    The real question is, can we get this to happen in Australia?

  39. EvilElvis

    put a lot of pressure on the public service and bureacrats

    We need a shit load of this in Australia!

    Intriguing the whole ‘hitch completely different bills together’ and ram it through Congress routine. Trump will play this out, force the compassion for illegals trumps American lives meme, people will realise government shutdown doesn’t affect anyone but the slimy fucking PS, lays ground for PS cuts! Go, man!

  40. RobK

    The real question is, can we get this to happen in Australia?

    Refer to past instances of blocking Supply Bill. It has to be well thought through and done on a fundamental imperative. Well can all watch and learn.

  41. struth

    Government shutdown.
    Actually it’s a joke, if it wasn’t for national security and armed services personnel.

    Couldn’t see the armed services and all PS not being back paid when it’s all over.
    So, the armed services know who’s doing it to them and they are not going to lose their houses.
    I really can’t see a problem with this shut down.
    I guarantee you the Navy won’t be throwing anchor in the middle of the pacific and sunning themselves on deck until the government starts up again.
    Are their still officers at the border of Mexico on duty?
    To me, this is a very big distraction squirrel to deflect from the release of a certain paper on illegal deep state and Clinton/Obummer activity that would be explosive.

  42. struth

    There their they’re……………………bloody hell, I may have to go and see a quack about this.

  43. Defender of the faith

    BS and Tom: typical of those who drink the trump bath water you guys think the US govt can be the province of a single president. Like everything about trump this is a fake premise. To actually achieve anything trump needs both the gop leadership and some dem votes. That’s factual.
    In reality the trump admin is just a media circus.

  44. struth

    In reality the trump admin EXPOSES a media circus

    FIFY

  45. Rae

    You have no idea do you Rae? Senate requires 60 votes to pass a bill. The Republicans have 51 votes.

    Sure I do, gbees. Pelosi is correct. See Defender of the faith @ 9.14 upthread.

  46. RobK

    Defender,

    . To actually achieve anything trump needs both the gop leadership and some dem votes. That’s factual.
    In reality the trump admin is just a media circus.

    Who is to say he won’t have that in the final wash up. On past examples this could go on for many months.

  47. Oh come on

    Here’s a good one, via Insty – Heartland Democrats to Washington: You’re Killing Us

    The report, “Hope from the Heartland: How Democrats Can Better Serve the Midwest by Bringing Rural, Working Class Wisdom to Washington

    Anyway, there’s a bit of rural, working class wisdom contained in the article, much to its author’s discomfort:

    Goodin ran into a man wearing a well-worn cap with a well-known slogan: “Make America Great Again.” Delmis Burns, I would learn later, drives a truck for a living and has known Goodin for more than 40 years and votes for him every time he runs because Burns, despite his preference in the presidential race, is in fact a Democrat. The two men fell into easy banter, and it didn’t take long for Trump to come up. Burns is still pleased with his choice. “They give ’im hell,” he said, “and he gives it back.” At some point, Burns began talking about the time he was asked at work to train a new driver who was Muslim. He refused. “They’re taught to be nice to you,” he told Goodin, “and then they blow you up.” The comment floated uncomfortably between the two men, although maybe it was just me who felt like that—and the gregarious Burns soon was talking instead about his hat, and some guff he had gotten from somebody who wanted to “knock that off your head,” he said. “I told him, ‘Everybody’s gotta be doing somethin’ when the good Lord calls.’”

    It was probably just you.

    Make that nope from the heartland. Somehow, I don’t think the Dems will be interested, anyway.

  48. bobby b

    “No explanation for the fact that republican leaders including McConnell openly dismayed by Trump inability to negotiate and chaotic lack of attention to detail. This is incompetence.”

    This is dim misunderstanding.

    Anyone claiming that Trump is somehow not negotiating is either limited in their perception, or is lying.

    Remember how Obama used to negotiate bills? He’d announce to the Republicans exactly what he wanted, tell them that no point was negotiable (because, after all, he had WON), and then when they made counter-proposals he’d announce to a compliant media that the R’s were refusing to negotiate. In reality, he was the one refusing to negotiate, but his handmaiden press changed the story for him.

    Now, the Dems are trying his same tactic – if the R’s won’t accept every DACA point that the Dems want, then the R’s must be refusing to negotiate! – but the kneepad reporters no longer control access to the public.

    Trump is negotiating. He’s just not negotiating the way the Dems want him to negotiate – e.g., by giving them everything they want.

  49. a happy little debunker

    Trump unpicked Obama’s DACA executive order to force congress to do it’s job and resolve the dreamers future.

    Pelosi seems to think that congress doesn’t have to do its job.

    Which one gets an F in leadership?

  50. alexnoaholdmate

    Wrong fred

    No it wasn’t, OCO. It was perfect.

  51. alexnoaholdmate

    Yikes, where is my avatar?

    There it is.

  52. Makka

    I am always against the shutdowns by either party. But it does demonstrate Trump’s failure as a deal maker, doesn’t it?

    That’s just silly. Do you know what the “deal” is yet? Do you know what the outcome is yet?

    It may well be that in the end this shutdown damages the Dems terribly and Trump’s DACA outcome is realised. How’s that for a “deal”?

    As ever Boris, you can’t wait to sling shit at Trump without having all the facts. You libertarian NeverTrumpers are fkn hopeless leftists at heart.

  53. Defender of the faith

    Bobbyb: when your own side says you’re not paying attention it’s clear enough. Trump is incompetent and it’s the gop that says it.

  54. Muddy

    Complicit – Great TV ad. Concise, direct. With us or against us.

  55. Muddy

    Bobbyb: when your own side says you’re not paying attention it’s clear enough. Trump is incompetent and it’s the gop that says it.

    The GOP is on Trump’s side? When did this happen?

  56. OCO;

    Pelosi is increasingly senile. You’d think she’d do the dignified thing and quietly retire. Every time you see her on TV, it’s pretty clear she isn’t playing with a whole deck.

    Pelosi is increasingly senile. You’d think she’d do the dignified thing and quietly retire. Every time you see her on TV, it’s pretty clear she isn’t playing with a full esky.

  57. Old Ozzie;
    Gateway Pundits really irritating practise of printing out a tweet, then showing the tweet, and then reprinting the same thing has pissed me off enough that I don’t go there anymore.
    Excessive verbiage is a growing problem in media these days.

  58. BorisG

    I think the Dems may have kicked an own goal with this.

    quite possibly.

  59. BorisG

    I don’t know who BorisG is, but one thing is for sure that is a fucking idiot.

    I don’t know who this idiot JohnL is but he is such an idiot he is not even capable of presenting an argument.

  60. Defender of the faith

    Muddy: you’ve not paid attention. Trump is actually president of the US. It might seem fanciful but the man heads a government. Or are you one of those people who think he is there solely to destroy government?

  61. gbees

    Rae
    #2615260, posted on January 21, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    Sure I do, gbees. Pelosi is correct. See Defender of the faith @ 9.14 upthread.

    Thanks for the Defender referral . opinions aren’t fact.

    Fact: Dems want to let 11 million illegals stay in order to allow passage of supply bill, which is being held back by Dems not Repubs. 60 votes required. Repubs have 51, only required 9 normal Dems (is there such a thing?) to vote and supply passes. No one in their right minds would even contemplate negotiating immigration as a requirement of supply. Only brain dead leftards.

  62. Defender of the faith

    gbees: those are alternative facts.
    McConnell said himself in public that the gop could not figure out what trump wants. The dems actually agreed to support the nec wall funding. The daca issue is over people born in the USA.
    The pint is not about the specifics. It’s that trump is incompetent.

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