Monday Forum: January 22, 2018

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  1. Combine Dave

    stackja
    #2617877, posted on January 24, 2018 at 8:15 am
    2GB report Sydney train vote is rigged to support the strike.

    Any existing open polls for cats to go express their ‘support’?

  2. min

    Since Ashton’s return has anyone noticed the change in the rhetoric? Now back to no gangs just social problems and now using Caucasian as a description of criminals to demonstrate it is not only a certain race which is still not mentioned in descriptions. Heard that the stats are being fudged also.

  3. John Constantine

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/horizons/fellows/hilary-matfess/11012018-strategic-hamlets-Nigeria

    Early December 2017, the Governor of Borno State announced a new strategy in the fight against Boko Haram. Reuters reported, “Displaced people will be housed in fortified garrison towns, ringed by farms, with the rest of the countryside effectively left to fend for itself.” Governor Shettima argued that “There’s beauty in numbers, there’s security in numbers,” explaining the government’s objective “is to congregate all the people in five major urban settlements and provide them with means of livelihood, education, health care and of course security.”

    Once their population Ponzi scheme reaches critical mass, Australia’s elites can stack all the proles into vertical ghettos in the coastal megacities and megashantytowns in the outback.

    Their Julie bishop will be reporting at Davos how successful the turnbull government is in progressing this agenda.

    When it comes to people being money, there is beauty in gross numbers.

    Comrades.

  4. H B Bear

    How does Rafael Nadal’s leg know what day it is?

  5. Dave in Marybrook

    Got the cart before the horse there Zippy-
    Shorter staple superfine wool is now in demand because of the advantages in scouring and milling.

  6. Geriatric Mayfly

    calli
    #2617864, posted on January 24, 2018 at 7:41 am
    Forget North Korea, ISIS, satanic Globalisation rumours. The ultimate horror is upon us. There’s an avocado shortage!

    At $3.90 it’s now a matter of finding one big enough to go three salads.

  7. Rabz

    The ultimate horror is upon us. There’s an avocado shortage!

    Yes and I’m not happy about it. No wonder I haven’t been able to find any decent ones (if at all).

  8. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2617881, posted on January 24, 2018 at 8:25 am

    Driverless trains looking a good option.

  9. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2617889, posted on January 24, 2018 at 8:33 am
    How does Rafael Nadal’s leg know what day it is?

    Gets a leg up?

  10. egg_

    The ultimate horror is upon us. There’s an avocado shortage!

    Cat ladies using them for vaginal moon eggs?

  11. calli

    There will soon be security guards on the avocado bench at the local Woolies.

    The Beloved will volunteer gladly – he’d delight in bawling out the elderly squeezers, pinchers and flippers who infest the place.

  12. Rabz

    That report about the young woman bashed by African slags in Mosquebourne is absolutely infuriating.

    The world’s most livable third world shithole, brought to you courtesy of decades of collectivist cockgobbling idiocy.

  13. stackja

    Rabz
    #2617899, posted on January 24, 2018 at 8:54 am

    Cain/Kirner!

  14. stackja

    2GB reports union strike text message question changed.

  15. Nick

    I’m waiting for white ribbon/Rosie Batty, etc, to decry the assault on the Melbourne woman at a bus stop. Oh hang on..

  16. Geriatric Mayfly

    How does Rafael Nadal’s leg know what day it is?

    At $725,000 his wrist watch might keep him informed. Specially crafted for the man himself by Mille. Only 49 more to go on sale. Forget the avocados and Save, Save, Save.

  17. egg_

    I’m waiting for white ribbon/Rosie Batty

    Has she shacked up with another abuser?

  18. Nick

    Has she shacked up with another abuser?

    There’s a guy with standards that low ?

  19. egg_

    How does Rafael Nadal’s leg know what day it is?

    Fiery Mediterranee is a sore loser?
    Colour me pink.

    Adam Hills can give him a leg up?

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2617844, posted on January 24, 2018 at 6:47 am

    Sea levels to remain stable. The weight of all that water from melting glaciers and icecaps caused by global warming, has seen a dramatic shift of the sea bed in the Gulf of Alaska (Once known as an earthquake.) This new depression may even be large enough to effect a fall in sea-levels world wide.

    Don’t be ridiculous. The extra water is being absorbed by sea sponges.

  21. C.L.

    Queensland government wants balloon releases at funerals to be banned …
    Bereaved children’s parents should be heavily punished …

    Families planning to release balloons at funerals and memorials for loved ones are being asked to consider alternatives by Keep Queensland Beautiful.

    The environment conservation group will be writing to all funeral directors throughout Queensland this month, asking them to carry pamphlets reminding customers that releasing balloons into the environment is harmful to wildlife, is considered littering, and can attract fines in upwards of $250…

    “It’s an emotive thing and it’s been touchy, so we’re glad the Government’s come out and say it’s illegal.”

    Grieving families asked to consider alternatives to balloon releases at funerals.

  22. egg_

    collectivist cockgobbling idiocy.

    An apt description for the Trumble Coalition Team.

  23. Nick

    In the SMH:

    My own experience 10 years ago, at one of our universities in Sydney, stands for me as an example of what too often occurs in many of our society’s institutions. Junior staff members approached me, who they saw as being in a sufficiently senior position to take their complaints about their 60-year-old male manager of a serious sexist and racist nature, to the top level of the university.

    Their complaints, reported directly to me and supported in each instance by others, were dismissed by the university through two manipulated investigations that never revealed to us the full reports of the investigators.

    Ok, serious sexist and racist behaviour, two investigations that were ultimately dismissed.

    The comments included one made to one staff member of Chinese background. The manager then made an inappropriate suggestion about what he considered to be the Chinese population ‘problem’. This was reported directly to me by the staff member it was made to, and supported in a statutory declaration signed by another staff member who had overheard the remark.

    Another young female staff member discovered a photo of herself alongside that of another young woman on the manager’s personal Facebook page: “Who’s hotter, X or Y”. This page was quickly removed following the first complaint but I retain a copy from a screen shot of another page that asked the manager’s young female Facebook “friends” (the staff members) to “Hug me”.

    FMD. I feel sorry being male sometimes.

  24. H B Bear

    Cain/Kirner!

    Umm … no the Lieboral’s Fat Mandy and Phil “Amnesty” Ruddock. Cain and Mother Russia just economically crippled Victoriastan and was largely repaired by Kennett. The Lieboral’s Africans, like Fraser’s Lebs have changed the place forever.

  25. stackja

    Mehajer’s barrister Tom Hughes claimed police had a “weak and circumstantial case at best”. Mr Hughes said his client was a victim of “extortion” and that people linked to the driver of the other car asked him to pay $10,000.

    Yes, Lucy’s dad.

  26. H B Bear

    What an appalling family the Hughes are. Truly the worst of the worst.

  27. Nick

    Oops, the bolds are reversed for some reason. Stupidity, probably.

  28. Boambee John

    #2617860, posted on January 24, 2018 at 7:32 am
    This will be most upsetting for the Ponds Institute, whose highly scientific online poll found 99% of Australians want the date changed immediately:

    99% – how amazing is that?

    That was a typo Tinta. The actual figure from the Ponds Institute was 199%

  29. H B Bear

    I’m waiting for white ribbon/Rosie Batty

    I think she is still on her way home from the Big Bash.

  30. C.L.

    James Comey now says (for the first time) the professor to whom he leaked FBI material (requesting he leak it to the media) is his personal lawyer. Attorney/client privilege, dude.

    A total crook.

  31. H B Bear

    There will soon be security guards on the avocado bench at the local Woolies.

    Good luck detecting blokes with a couple of avos shoved in their undies.

  32. stackja

    Mehajer’s barrister Tom Hughes claimed police had a “weak and circumstantial case at best”. Mr Hughes said his client was a victim of “extortion” and that people linked to the driver of the other car asked him to pay $10,000.

    Tom fail. Bail denied.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    James Comey now says (for the first time) the professor to whom he leaked FBI material (requesting he leak it to the media) is his personal lawyer. Attorney/client privilege, dude.

    A total crook.

    Presumably Comey is suing his “lawyer” for a breach of trust in releasing details of a privileged consultation to the media.
    No?

  34. struth

    How racist is it to attempt to tell people how to behave around somebody based on the colour of their skin?

    Cultural awareness…………………………….Pure unadulterated collectivist Racism of the left.

    It is so hypocritical besides being racist.
    Well, of course it is.
    Leftism is based on Hypocrisy, lazy entitlement (stealing), and without a doubt, I believe their foremost dismal quality that consumes them.
    Racism.
    They absolutely despise my culture and feel no need to be aware of it, in fact they denigrate it daily, while wanting me to apologise for it and walk on eggshells around people who in most cases aren’t even black.
    How bad have the Liberal party become to be part of this rot?

    The UNiLiberals must be wiped from the earth.

    This shit, along with Welcome to country (you can’t welcome me to my own country) and signs on roadsides saying welcome to “Wemadeournameup” country, and all the millions of gradually introduced bullshit has to be revisited and attacked for what it is.
    Racism and anti western cultural Marxism.

  35. Baldrick

    Queensland government wants balloon releases at funerals to be banned …
    Bereaved children’s parents should be heavily punished …

    I don’t mind if they ban funeral balloons, as long as they also ban ticker tape parades for sporting luminaries and fireworks dedicated to homo-hoedowns.

  36. Roger

    Mogadishu on the Yarra latest:

    Melbourne residents desperately installing bollards in their driveways to deter home invading African gangs.

    Which it won’t; they will simply escalate the threats to obtain the bollard keys as well as the car keys.

  37. Nick

    I don’t mind if they ban funeral balloons, as long as they also ban ticker tape parades for sporting luminaries and fireworks dedicated to homo-hoedowns.

    Wasn’t glitter said to be un-environmentally friendly ? Not a word said. Had it been used at funerals perhaps they’d have complained.

  38. calli

    Too true, Bear. Or ladies with suddenly ample bosoms. Perhaps the fruit will need security tags like high end meat.

  39. calli

    Funerals are solemn affairs, not kiddies’ parties. Keep the ballons at home.

    Or…release a dove or two to remind participants of the Way of All Flesh.

  40. struth

    Queensland government wants balloon releases at funerals to be banned …

    Get the mourners to dress as Mardi Gras hags and they’ll be able to make as much mess as they like.

    Based on this reasoning I immediately call for the banning of all music “festivals”, the Mardi gras, the use of paints and environmentally unfriendly products in street protests and ……………………………………..etc

  41. calli

    My personal favourite. He really should have listened to W.C.Fields.

  42. egg_

    There will soon be security guards on the avocado bench at the local Woolies.

    Good luck detecting blokes with a couple of avos shoved in their undies.

    Is that where all the sugar bananas are going?

  43. Baldrick

    Funerals are solemn affairs, not kiddies’ parties. Keep the ballons at home.

    Yes but they explode Leftard heads, which is why I want balloons at my send-off.

  44. Top Ender

    Panahi on Jimmy Barnes: “The rocker and sometime cruise-boat crooner”

  45. struth

    To those racists who believe in cultural awareness.
    Why does it not apply to Jacinta or Bess Price?

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wussians! Wussians everywhere!

    Top Dems demand probe into Russian trolls suspected of pushing FISA abuse memo, #ReleaseTheMemo

    Senior congressional Democrats have demanded that Facebook and Twitter investigate whether a Russian social media subversion campaign is actively promoting an online push to release a classified congressional memo regarding the anti-Trump dossier.

    They added that social media efforts to push #ReleaseTheMemo were a clear case of “Russia’s continuing efforts to manipulate public opinion and undermine American democracy and the rule of law.”

    According to the Hamilton 68 Dashboard, an independent tracker of Russian online disinformation and influence campaigns, #ReleaseTheMemo has received a massive boost for the past week from more than 500 Twitter accounts suspected to have connections to Kremlin online propaganda efforts. The tracker noted that automated “bots” designed to spread disinformation appeared to be at work.

    There you go. Every righty blogger wanting the memo released is actually a Wussian wobot.
    *beep* *beep*

  47. calli

    Have your mourners fill them with glitter and pop them then. Double whammy.

  48. Baldrick

    Have your mourners fill them with glitter and pop them then. Double whammy.

    Just copious quantities of exhaled CO2 would do me.

  49. struth

    And if you want to know a musician who is right wing, Jacinta Price is actually a pretty good singer and Guitarist and used to do gigs around Alice.
    She may still do so, I don’t live there anymore.

  50. struth

    Top Ender, did you ever go into the old Hotel Darwin?

  51. Atoms for Peace

    Tough if you have a latex allergy when balloons are bursting.

  52. egg_

    “The rocker and sometime cruise-boat crooner

    Entertaining Grigs, when his voice finally cracks towards retirement.

  53. calli

    struth
    #2617943, posted on January 24, 2018 at 9:48 am

    Lol. There’s a movie title in that somewhere.

  54. Myrddin Seren

    Their Skynews was positively priapic this morning as they ran and re-ran the Mueller interviewed Sessions story.

    Subtext – the net is tightening; this is a critical development, and; we look forward to Trump being perp-walked out of the White House in cuffs soon.

    No member in good standing of the professional journalism alumni can see beyond Wussia, Wussia, Wussia. It is their oxygen.

    Strangely ( /sarc ), type ‘FISA Memo’ in to Their Skynews’s search box and you get zero, zip, nadda.

    You would almost think they are living inside a bubble ?

  55. H B Bear

    mUnty – remember him? He isn’t doing a guest reporter spot on Sky News is he?

  56. Andreas

    @realDonaldTrump
    11 hours ago
    In one of the biggest stories in a long time, the FBI now says it is missing five months worth of lovers Strzok-Page texts, perhaps 50,000, and all in prime time. Wow!

  57. Myrddin Seren

    The resurrected post-Trump TPP was top of the bulletin for Their Skynews.

    TPP a good deal for Australia: Ciobo

    I would struggle to find a reference easily, but I recall discussions online a while back suggesting the Obama-era TPP was larded with environmental, gender and every other sort of SJW commitments. Trade was kind of a cover for the real nub of the TPP.

    Tellingly, Their Skynews interviewed Minister Ciobo live from the WEF in Davos.

    This alone probably tells us we are about to see the strip mining of Australia’s wealth rise to a new intensity.

  58. struth

    By the way, SA putting in a shit load more windmills, people I know working on transporting them tell me hundreds of loads worth of work.

  59. Myrddin Seren

    Tel

    After Justin Trudeau hands his job over to a woman and retires, I’ll consider doing the same.

    Justin will simply announce he is an approved Victim Class and his job is safe.

    He will either come out of the closest, or do a ‘Chelsea’ Manning and become the first trans-PM, to much joy and excitement from the chatterati.

  60. Top Ender

    Hi Struth…no not really.

    Have done three Darwin stints: 1968-69; 1988-1999; and 2007 to now. But have always been more of a beer and BBQ bloke.

    Bloke I know went into the old Nightcliff Hotel which had the cage bar…I think that was the one on the esplanade there.

    He thought it was perfectly normal until some bloke on a motorbike rode it into the bar; had a beer without dismounting and rode out again. The thing that convinced him of Darwin’s different approach to life was that several of the people drinking there didn’t even look around.

  61. H B Bear

    Is a list of all the Australian politicians and their bureaucrat masters swapping ideas with UN functionaries and other anti-democratic globalists at Davos? They would be better off getting out in their electorates and speaking to the people they are paid to represent.

  62. Graham

    Yes, Lucy’s dad.

    No. He is Tom Hughes Jnr. Her brother. Tom Hughes QC is retired.

  63. candy

    Or…release a dove or two to remind participants of the Way of All Flesh

    I wonder where these doves come from, if they are kept in captivity for people to buy and then are released at a funeral after which they will surely die in an environment they are not used to. Their own funeral, so to speak.
    Same with releasing butterflies and so on – it begins to be animal cruelty. Animals just can’t be transported to a new environment for people’s entertainment and be expected to survive in a new habitat.

  64. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bloke I know went into the old Nightcliff Hotel which had the cage bar…I think that was the one on the esplanade there.

    The infamous cage bar – IIRC, they also had the “barefoot mudcrab tying contest” there.

    Another example of “Darwin’s different attitude to life” was the Darwin barrister who advised his client to wear a suit to court. He did – with thongs.

  65. Snoopy

    Tom Hughes QC is retired.

    Slacker! He’s only 94.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    if they are kept in captivity for people to buy and then are released at a funeral after which ..

    after which they fly back home to their owners, Candy.

    Doves are a form of homing pigeon. Nice little earner, I reckon.

  67. OneWorldGovernment

    From Tom’s excellent roundup of cartoons I had to smile at Larry Pickering’s post about our wealthy PM(?).

    What particularly caught my eye was this paragraph.

    When rich Green blokes interfere we get stuff like the cane toad, plagues of crocs, destructive rabbits and foxes, the prickly pear, toxic Patterson’s curse, the Myna bird, the white cactus, wild cats, dogs and pigs… and Islamic African gangs. All imposed by man, except for the ridiculously protected croc!

    I don’t normally read Pickering but this one is well worth checking. Thanks Tom.

    STOP PLAYING GOD WITH OUR MONEY Mr TURNBULL AND LET THE CROWN OF THORNS DO ITS JOB

    http://pickeringpost.com/story/stop-playing-god-with-our-money-mr-turnbull-and-let-the-crown-of-thorns-do-its-job/7934

  68. Snoopy

    ‘Doves’ are white homing pigeons.

  69. @AustDayNakba

    This not good. Not good at all. We urgently need an indigenous lexeme that confroms to the concept of Nakba.

    The significance of Australia Day or Invasion Day for Indigenous Australians, explained in Arabic

    ‘But did you know that Australia Day is the day of Nakba [catastrophe] for indigenous people?’

    https://www.facebook.com/MuslimCollective/posts/2294611547231097

    Splatter pattern spews his shit across the blog worse every day.

    Only white lefties want the day changed. Worse, you push some bullshit Arab meme as they matter a flying fuck to aborigines.

    Muslim supremacists see aborigines as weak and vulnerable to conversion, except they couldn’t be arsed going to church on Sundays, let alone praying five times every day.

    You’re a parasite who would use Islam to further yourself as much as you use aborigines.

    The thing that gets me is, you know full well that you get zero traction here. Why do you bother?

  70. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    lol, memories of ‘speckled Jim’ (from 1.43 on)

  71. Cold-Hands

    I don’t think this has been mentioned yet: Sci-Fi & Fantasy great Ursula K Le Guin has died aged 88.
    Her Earthsea books in particular, get a re-read every few years or so. Vale.

  72. Joe

    The thing that gets me is, you know full well that you get zero traction here. Why do you bother?

    Because the desired outcome is to make the blog unreadable by “normal” rightists and thus drive away those who seek the truth.

  73. Their United Nations required specifically that winning tickets in Australia’s immigration lottery be handed out to the apex predators.

    Why do lefties love apex predators?

    Because they represent unrivalled power.

    Lefties desire absolute power, not over themselves, but all others.

    Beware the apex predator lovers.

  74. cohenite

    Leigh Lowe

    #2617924, posted on January 24, 2018 at 9:23 am

    James Comey now says (for the first time) the professor to whom he leaked FBI material (requesting he leak it to the media) is his personal lawyer. Attorney/client privilege, dude.

    A total crook.

    Presumably Comey is suing his “lawyer” for a breach of trust in releasing details of a privileged consultation to the media.
    No?

    You cannot find refuge in a right which you have relinquished. Desperation.

  75. thefrollickingmole

    I need to lie down. Germaine Greer made the same point Ive ben making to the harpy sisterhood for years now.

    She revealed that she is currently writing a new book, which will be called On Rape, a follow-up to her previous essay, On Rage. “My feeling is we ditch rape altogether [as a crime] because it’s hopeless. I have seen the police working up a rape case trying desperately hard to build it up so it will stand up in court – and wasting their time,” she said. “The burden of proof is too high and that’s because the tariff is too onerous. Rape is a daily crime, it’s not spectacular. What we need is a coherent law of sexual assault.”

    Ive said a number of times if you want huge sentences then the crime must have a high evidentiary barrier to prove guilt.
    If you want convictions aplenty then the penalty has to be lower so the amount of evidence needed to convict is also less.

    If rape was instead treated as common assault with similar penalties would we be worse off?
    More convictions, with repeat offenders able to be locked away for longer and longer times.

  76. calli

    My comment about the doves was low-flying sarcasm. Looks like it got hit by a truck too.

  77. C.L.

    Funerals are solemn affairs, not kiddies’ parties. Keep the balloons at home.

    I agree, generally, but the joyless, endless scolding of these people is utterly sickening.

  78. C.L.

    Sebastian Gorka makes a very good point:

    Sebastian Gorka DrG‏Verified [email protected]

    How does Peter Strzok afford Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer David Boies – one of the most expensive in DC – on @FBI salary?

  79. calli

    Tale #10320 in the neverending saga of Win10 hatred. Urgently need to do some work on the PC. Microdopes have decided it needs an “update”.

    After 35 minutes it’s at 21% complete.

    Pure, unadulterated evil.

  80. JC

    Peter Jackson is doing a WW1 movie. They’ve taken old film of the time and sharpened the images. It’s quite incredible.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lord-rings-director-peter-jackson-11898487

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Rape is a forced, brutal and definitely unwanted and resisted penetration of a woman’s vagina by a man’s erect penis. It may produce a pregnancy or introduce a serious disease into a woman’s body. The charge is specifically related to females.

    All else, the definitional tinkering around the edges of ‘he said’ ‘she said’ concerning consent, and the various touching ups, from unwanted digital penetration to a hand on a girl’s knee, is sexual assault. So is a woman pressuring or restraining a male for sexual congress; that can be sexual assault but it is never rape.

    My opinion only of course. Other may see it differently.

  82. OneWorldGovernment

    Cold-Hands
    #2617968, posted on January 24, 2018 at 10:23 am

    I don’t think this has been mentioned yet: Sci-Fi & Fantasy great Ursula K Le Guin has died aged 88.
    Her Earthsea books in particular, get a re-read every few years or so. Vale.

    One of the great story tellers Cold Hands.

  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just saying too that a hand on a girl’s knee is an unlikely sexual assault, and in most cases it can be dismissed more readily as a companionable gesture, as are many such male/female contacts. Not so the uninvited ‘pussy grab’ though.

  84. The Moribund Barking Toad

    The insanity continues…..hoisted from the Molonglo Pravda

    Greenhouse gas emissions from the electricity sector would be reduced at twice the rate proposed by the Turnbull government under a radical new plan outlined by the Australian Energy Market Operator.

    The “fast change” model puts the public operator on a collision course with policymakers after AEMO outlined a potential cut of 52 per cent to all electricity emissions by 2030, double the rate required to meet our Paris climate change commitments.The paper comes as the government-created Energy Security Board – of which AEMO’s renewables-focused chief executive Audrey Zibelman is a member – is preparing to release modelling next month for the government’s National Energy Guarantee aimed at shoring up reliability while curbing carbon emissions.

    FFS!

  85. Arky

    As gender is an entirely made up load of old bullocks, I will happily identify my “gender” as whatever the hell works to keep these lunatics off my back. I suggest you all do the same.
    My sex, however, remains permanently old, male, hetero and pissed off.

  86. C.L.

    Was Blair joking that Carlton’s biography is 200,000 words?

  87. The Moribund Barking Toad

    Link to article here

  88. C.L.

    The funniest Blair take-down of Carlton:

    Lord Carlton.

    Audio still works. Hilarious.

  89. Arky

    From now on tick the”female” and write “Ms” on all the forms.
    Start a movement, sisters.
    Let’s get rid of that gender pay gap once and for all.

  90. Oh come on

    LOL wannabe president MSNBC loser Joe Scarborough has released a white knight anthem for the women’s marchers. It’s just. So. Bad. As you would expect. Talk about bringing the cheese. Just give up on the music career, Joe! You really suck at it! Here it is as broadcast by MSNBC during Joe and Mika’s show, set to images of the women’s marches, replete with hollow statements of empowerment and clips of Trump (being compared to a column of tanks!).

    Unsurprisingly, the interwebz is reacting.

    (Via Ben Shapiro podcast)

  91. The Moribund Barking Toad

    oops link failed – go to Canberra Times site – its under the heading Politics

  92. lotocoti

    you push some bullshit Arab meme

    Actually, nakba may be appropriate, but not in the way they expect.
    Remember, the catastrophe happened because the Trans-Jordanians thought a spot of casual murder and looting would be enough to secure a nation.
    Meanwhile, the Yehud were establishing airlines and airforces, telephone networks and supply chains.

  93. Oh come on

    LOL wannabe president MSNBC loser Joe Scarborough has released a white knight anthem for the women’s marchers. It’s just. So. Bad. As you would expect. Talk about bringing the cheese. Just give up on the music career, Joe! You really suck at it! Here it is as broadcast by MSNBC during Joe and Mika’s show, set to images of the women’s marches, replete with hollow statements of empowerment and clips of Trump (being compared to a column of tanks!).

    (Via Ben Shapiro podcast)

  94. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Rape as I define it can also have a serious psychological dimension for a woman, as full sexual intercourse is the foundation of the relationship of marriage, a building block of all social life in human societies. Rape strikes at the heart of civilization and ordered sexual relationships.

    On a personal level however, this psychological dimension is variable, depending on the woman’s own perception of the event and her capacity to sideline it in her life, as well as in her community’s reaction to it if the rape is made public. In this sense, rape is by no means comparable to murder, which removes the right of the murdered person to their very existence.

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My sex, however, remains permanently old, male, hetero and pissed off.

    Goodness, Arky. Mrs. Arky’s cooking can’t be that bad surely?
    What about those compensating charms? 🙂

  96. Arky

    I wonder where these doves come from, if they are kept in captivity for people to buy and then are released at a funeral after which they will surely die in an environment they are not used to. Their own funeral, so to speak.

    ..
    This is why the humane thing to do is only ever release doves with lit fireworks inserted.

  97. Arky

    Goodness, Arky

    ..
    That’s Ms. Arky to you, sister.

  98. Myrddin Seren

    a radical new plan outlined by the Australian Energy Market Operator.

    The “fast change” model puts the public operator on a collision course with policymakers after AEMO outlined a potential cut of 52 per cent to all electricity emissions by 2030,

    Can any Canberra Cats explain to the rest of us what mandate the AEMO is operating under such that it is now operating a separate policy stream to that of the local Federal government ? Or do we assume they pledge their loyalty to higher power like the UN and IPCC ?

    oops link failed – go to Canberra Times site – its under the heading Politics

    Not surprising – because it sure isn’t ‘Energy’ or ‘Business’. It is the unelected apparatchiks pushing for control without an electoral mandate.

  99. egg_

    Why do lefties love apex predators?

    Because they represent unrivalled power.

    Lefties desire absolute power, not over themselves, but all others.

    Beware the apex predator lovers.

    Hence, their embrace of muslimhood?

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thinking as I go: under my definition a lesbian can never rape a woman. She may use implements or fingers which put the situation simply into the category of sexual assault. Similarly, a man using such an implement in a similar attack upon a woman would be more guilty of sexual assault than rape.

  101. Oh come on

    Why are you marching?

    Uhh it’s just, like, Trump has been so, like misogynistic, and has brought in, like, all these anti-women laws and stuff and I just feel that, like, we’re going back, like to some time, like, where women were not, like seen and ahhh not…heard and I, like, really feel scared for the, like, future and stuff

  102. EvilElvis

    Oops, the bolds are reversed for some reason. Stupidity, probably.

    Is that like literature fat shaming? Clemmy will be onto you.

  103. Snoopy

    Trump would never be caught out like this.

    (Hawaii Governor) David Ige says he will now ensure his Twitter login details are in his phone after admitting he could not inform people sooner of the missile alert false alarm because he didn’t know his password.

  104. Marcus

    So, a journeyman tennis player makes the quarter finals of the Australian Open for the first time, beating two top-10 players and already guaranteeing that he’ll earn as much from this tournament as he has in his entire career to date.

    A feel-good sports story, right?

    Well, not if your name’s Tennys Sandgren, you’re a Trump supporter, and you’ve previously retweeted alt-right figures (since when were retweets assumed to be endorsements, anyway?), in which case you can expect a grilling from the press on your political views.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-23/australian-open-tennys-sandgren-downplays-pizzagate-tweets/9351806

  105. calli

    My favourite pic of Lord Carlton.

  106. Oh come on

    And like, women of colour and, you know, different races and stuff. And I just think what’s happening is so wrong and I, like, had to come here and, like, I need people and you know society to like hear my voice because it’s like so wrong

  107. Arky

    What will the family court do if all biological fathers started showing up identifying as Ms?

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Ms. Arky, OK, I take your point. No, let me rephrase that now you have your penis nicely tucked.
    Ms. Arky, there is much you have to learn about being a Ms. We’ll start with deportment (walking in high heels) and from there we will move on to make-up (eyebrow plucking first; be quiet, it hardly hurts at all).

    On second thoughts, scroll back for the link yesterday to the June Daly Watkins School of Helpfulness.
    Enrol. Only $800 and you are in, Ms. Arky. Saves me a lot of bother, sister. Alternatively, I could just pass you over to my own Big Sis. She’d put the frighteners on any aspirant female wannabe.

    You’d never match her. One of her withering looks and you’d die in your oversized boots.

  109. EvilElvis

    Asked this question before, what is the fucking AEMO there for?

    Nice dashboard, who polishes it.

  110. Arky

    No, I’m a lesbian: none of your deportment crap applies.
    Sister.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2617987, posted on January 24, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Was Blair joking that Carlton’s biography is 200,000 words?

    Excluding first person singular pronouns it is only 155,000.

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    (Hawaii Governor) David Ige says he will now ensure his Twitter login details are in his phone after admitting he could not inform people sooner of the missile alert false alarm because he didn’t know his password.

    He’d better not lose his phone.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My favourite pic of Lord Carlton.

    Picture of a middle aged man, having a mid life crisis.

  114. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hear me roar.

    lol. ‘The mouse that roared’.

    Mousy lezzos are everywhere, Ms. Arky. Sad.
    I guess you’ll fit in.

  115. EvilElvis

    How racist is it to attempt to tell people how to behave around somebody based on the colour of their skin?

    Cultural awareness…………………………….Pure unadulterated collectivist Racism of the left.

    It is so hypocritical besides being racist.
    Well, of course it is.
    Leftism is based on Hypocrisy, lazy entitlement (stealing), and without a doubt, I believe their foremost dismal quality that consumes them.
    Racism.
    They absolutely despise my culture and feel no need to be aware of it, in fact they denigrate it daily, while wanting me to apologise for it and walk on eggshells around people who in most cases aren’t even black.
    How bad have the Liberal party become to be part of this rot?

    The UNiLiberals must be wiped from the earth.

    This shit, along with Welcome to country (you can’t welcome me to my own country) and signs on roadsides saying welcome to “Wemadeournameup” country, and all the millions of gradually introduced bullshit has to be revisited and attacked for what it is.
    Racism and anti western cultural Marxism.

    Point missed by all, Bernardi and DL should have raised the question “has Labor and Green staff undergone similar training?”. Obviously it’s a yes, but why does the aboriginal shit get championed by a bunch of staffers and bureaucrats who require a Cert I in ‘kulcha’ to broaden their cultural awareness? Aren’t they full bottles already?!?

  116. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What will the family court do if all biological fathers started showing up identifying as Ms?

    hahaha. The lefties will be hoist on their own petard.
    The Court will be reduced to the Governor Phillip ‘pants drop’ test.

  117. Arky

    If all it takes is a tick in a box to eliminate the gender pay gap nonsense once and for all, Lizzie, it would be truculent of me to stand in the way of progress.
    Gender is a made up load of bollocks and you cannot change your sex. That is in your chromosomes.

  118. H B Bear

    Blair’s repeated beclownment of Carlton (and Moose Knuckes) are one of the great joys of teh internet. There aren’t many.

  119. egg_

    From above link:

    This is the future: Frydenberg
    The government will continue to support the electric car industry according to the energy minister, despite opposition from colleagues.

    Kowtowing to the UN Masters, old mate?

  120. Joe

    The Court will be reduced to the Governor Phillip ‘pants drop’ test.

    That won’t work. Gender is assigned by the feelings of the person not some weird objective evaluation of some misogenistic authority figure.

  121. egg_

    More:

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the AEMO report was effectively bypassing the government.

    We have now entered the Leftoid parallel Clown Universe.

  122. Myrddin Seren

    David Thompson in his round-up includes a link to an Australia Day perspective which will probably see the HRC chasing the author:

    Those who mourn the demise of Aboriginal culture almost always regard things from the viewpoint of the men, who were indeed dispossessed of their land, and subsequently their traditions and status.

    Land wasn’t the only item of property they lost, however.

    They also lost or traded their women to the settlers, and this absorption – along with frontier warfare and disease – rapidly eroded tribal structures and doomed Aboriginal traditions to obsolescence. The settlers arrived with a wealth of goods and a shortage of females, and they were generally less enthusiastic about beating women than was customary in Aboriginal culture… The men lost a lot in the invasion, while the women had little to lose and plenty to gain.

  123. H B Bear

    My favourite pic of Lord Carlton.

    Must have been his albino, homo truck driver phase. We’ve all been there.

  124. johanna

    To those who wonder about the AEMO’s mandate – it is a creation of COAG, which means that it is pitched to the lowest common policy denominator of State and Federal governments.

    The head they appointed came with a CV chockers with lobbying for renewables, and they knew that perfectly well when they hired her. They can also fire her, but they won’t, because she is carrying their water on renewables without having to face any voters.

    HTH

  125. So is a woman pressuring or restraining a male for sexual congress; that can be sexual assault but it is never rape.

    They don’t call it anal rape for nothing.

  126. Joe

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the AEMO report was effectively bypassing the government.

    Yup, that capitalism – works much better than govt. control of common resources.

    I’m blaming capitalism here, because companies/businesses are just as capable of being infiltrated by luddites as the govt. In fact, most of the current problems stem from some companies bribing govt. to enact controls on power generation to their advantage. The problem is capitalist rent seeking and the billions of dollars they have to bribe officials to do their bidding.

  127. Hence, their embrace of muslimhood?

    Got it in one, brother Egg. 🥚

  128. Motelier

    Just a heads up.

    I am prolly going to be banned from twitter, I just told “our” Yasmin that white culture would be better off if we got out of all those shitholes and stopped wasting money.

  129. Myrddin Seren

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the AEMO report was effectively bypassing the government.

    That is my point.

    Thanks Adam.

    BTW – what role do you intend to play in the future if we are now seeing the unelected apparatchiks effectively moving to a position of open control ?

    Key word ‘open’ – as opposed to just quietly leading their ministers around the paddock with a rope through their noses.

  130. thefrollickingmole

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I should have added a little background on my “reduce the penalty, reduce the evidentiary burden” bit above.

    A LOT of the harpy sisters want simultaneously harsh penalties for rape and conviction on accusation to spare the lady the stress of a trial.

    I shouldnt have to spell out how bad the consequences of that would be.

    The only 1/2 way reasonable compromise is to make conviction easier, but penalties for most cases of rape lighter.

    Or we leave the current system in place which seems to satisfy nobody.

    Reducing the definition of rape to “penis in an orifice” and all the rest to common assault might be a starting point.

  131. John Constantine

    Their sky scrolling headline quotes nameless ‘business leaders’ attacking Abbott on immigration, as they boast of ‘migrant led prosperity’.

    Keep the gross number Ponzi population going as long as we can, beg Big business, they feel the cold winds of reality blowing in the per capita recession door already.

  132. H B Bear

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the AEMO report was effectively bypassing the government.

    So what’s the problem? The ALPBC do it every day.

  133. egg_

    The problem is capitalist rent seeking

    “A confluence of interest” that is a part of the wider climate scam.

  134. Joe

    Their sky scrolling headline quotes nameless ‘business leaders’ attacking Abbott on immigration, as they boast of ‘migrant led prosperity’.

    Then the capitalist pigs won’t mind their companies sales being garnished to pay for all migrants that are on social security benefits of any description. May as well confiscate their own salary whilst we are about it.

  135. Zatara

    James Comey now says (for the first time) the professor to whom he leaked FBI material (requesting he leak it to the media) is his personal lawyer. Attorney/client privilege, dude.

    A total crook.

    It doesn’t matter if the professor was his lawyer or his father-confessor, if he didn’t have a security clearance and need to know Comey is a Felon waiting for cell assignment.

  136. egg_

    ‘migrant led prosperity’.

    The ponzi scheme funded by Joe Taxpayer?

  137. Tel

    Greens climate change spokesman Adam Bandt said the AEMO report was effectively bypassing the government.

    I thought that AEMO was supposed to be an independent market operator… now they are suddenly beholden to government. Won’t somebody make up their mind?

  138. Infidel Tiger

    I’m blaming capitalism here, because companies/businesses are just as capable of being infiltrated by luddites as the govt. In fact, most of the current problems stem from some companies bribing govt. to enact controls on power generation to their advantage. The problem is capitalist rent seeking and the billions of dollars they have to bribe officials to do their bidding.

    Correction: not capitalism, it’s corporatism. And it is a gigantic problem.

  139. struth

    The problem is capitalist rent seeking and the billions of dollars they have to bribe officials to do their bidding.

    Capitalism works.
    Corporatism as Farage terms it, can only work if a government has control of an industry and is corruptible.

    Right now companies are betting that the government is on a U.N. mission to destroy the joint.
    The fact that renewables are failing us, means more renewables are needed.
    So they get themselves in on renewables and pressure the corrupt government to step up to the plate and really bring it on.
    They won’t be investing in coal power that’s for sure.

    In all of the above, it is completely and utterly the fault of government.
    You can’t corrupt something that has no control over anything, and you can’t corrupt government if it is not corrupt.

  140. pete m

    349
    Rape
    (1)Any person who rapes another person is guilty of a crime.

    Maximum penalty—life imprisonment.

    (2)A person rapes another person if—
    (a)the person has carnal knowledge with or of the other person without the other person’s consent; or
    (b)the person penetrates the vulva, vagina or anus of the other person to any extent with a thing or a part of the person’s body that is not a penis without the other person’s consent; or
    (c)the person penetrates the mouth of the other person to any extent with the person’s penis without the other person’s consent.
    (3)For this section, a child under the age of 12 years is incapable of giving consent.

    This is the Qld crime of rape is defined.

    Consent also applies to assault, so not sure where Greer is coming from. The real issue is believing the complainant, no matter the charge.

  141. egg_

    Joe
    #2618047, posted on January 24, 2018 at 11:50 am

    Climate scam/refo scam – same/same – you’re paying for it.

  142. Infidel Tiger

    (Via Ben Shapiro podcast)

    I see lil Ben is now going down the Glenn Beck route and selling survival rations.

  143. Joe

    Correction: not capitalism, it’s corporatism. And it is a gigantic problem.

    No it’s capitalism. The problem is the concentration of power in the form of market capture. This is built into the capitalist system. Once you allow buying and selling of businesses, mergers will occur that are designed to bypass market forces. Which is exactly what has happened.

    If we were in a true market, it would be an offense to reduce competition by any means.

  144. cynical1

    Oh fuck.

    Must be Australia day coming up.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/what-life-was-like-for-aboriginal-people-during-colonisation/news-story/0f3abec359c78d216d9315664eda132c

    I’m ashamed to be Australian.

    If only we were a gay, Islamic, enviromentally, fat free, no smoking, multicultural republic.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So is a woman pressuring or restraining a male for sexual congress; that can be sexual assault but it is never rape.
    They don’t call it anal rape for nothing.

    It won’t get you pregnant and it is not with a penis if a woman is doing it. So it is sexual assault. It may give you an STD though if the penetration is by a male. Any anal penetration with a penis I also define as a serious sexual assault not rape.

    This discussion started when Mole agreed with Greer that we need a ‘coherent definition’ of sexual assault and should thus eschew the term ‘rape’. I’ve tried to keep the concept of rape as a particular very anti-societal usage of women, but to limit it severely by allowing more interpretive leeway into the concept of ‘sexual assault’. I agree that unwanted anal penetration of either a male or female by a male is a proxy for unwanted vaginal penetration and thus comes close to my definition of rape. The use of implements for this sort of attack I would still call a serious sexual assault. It is not body organ into body organ even though, as with digital penetration, it constitutes a proxy for full penetration by a penis.

    The Court will be reduced to the Governor Phillip ‘pants drop’ test.
    That won’t work. Gender is assigned by the feelings of the person not some weird objective evaluation of some misogenistic authority figure.

    Joe, as I implied, lefties are hoist on their own stupidity – I was simply pointing out that if all men identified as being womanly wymmins because ‘feelz’, then the Court might have to find a way of distinguishing real women from fake ones that would destroy the leftie insistence that gender is a construct irrelevant to biology. Aboriginal men at Manly Cove in 1788 were in no doubt as to what weird species of being they were regarding when Phillip ordered a sailor to drop his pants and show his tackle.

    The Court of course, being captive to leftist memes, would probably make their test reliant on the greater political suitability of each candidate in the case under review and eschew biological attribution altogether.

  146. thefrollickingmole

    so not sure where Greer is coming from

    I think shes coming from the angle that lowering standards needed for a conviction while still keeping the penalties would be a bad thing.

    Heres the full article.
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/jan/23/germaine-greer-criticises-whingeing-metoo-movement

    “In the old days,” she continued, “there were movies – the Carry On comedies, for example – which always had a man leering after women. And the women always outwitted him – he was a fool. We weren’t afraid of him and we weren’t afraid to slap him down.”

    Acknowledging to the Sydney Morning Herald that “what makes it different is when the man has economic power, as Harvey Weinstein has”, Greer said that “if you spread your legs because he said ‘be nice to me and I’ll give you a job in a movie’ then I’m afraid that’s tantamount to consent, and it’s too late now to start whingeing about that”.
    ….
    She revealed that she is currently writing a new book, which will be called On Rape, a follow-up to her previous essay, On Rage. “My feeling is we ditch rape altogether [as a crime] because it’s hopeless. I have seen the police working up a rape case trying desperately hard to build it up so it will stand up in court – and wasting their time,” she said. “The burden of proof is too high and that’s because the tariff is too onerous. Rape is a daily crime, it’s not spectacular. What we need is a coherent law of sexual assault.”

    Shes all over the shop, but on the point of treating rape largely as assault I think shes right.

  147. Tel

    No it’s capitalism. The problem is the concentration of power in the form of market capture.

    Market capture, with government help and therein lies the problem… how to have a government that protects property rights, while also stays out of putting their regulatory finger on the scale selling political favours.

    This of course leads us to the conclusion that certain services and products should never be allowed for sale on the free market (e.g. buying a judge, buying an agency head, buying votes, etc). Once you understand that certain goods and services work well on the free market, while others should not be allowed, you need a framework to decide which is which and how to explain that.

  148. Tel

    If we were in a true market, it would be an offense to reduce competition by any means.

    So under your system Venus Williams has to deliberately play badly to ensure the others win a few comps?

  149. Infidel Tiger

    No it’s capitalism. The problem is the concentration of power in the form of market capture. This is built into the capitalist system. Once you allow buying and selling of businesses, mergers will occur that are designed to bypass market forces. Which is exactly what has happened.

    If we were in a true market, it would be an offense to reduce competition by any means.

    This is really stupid.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If we were in a true market, it would be an offense to reduce competition by any means.

    That’s a little too purist for me. The concept of ‘comparative advantage’ can get in the way of pure markets too, but it is also necessary for their development and smooth operation via trading.

  151. Joe

    Market capture, with government help…

    You can capture a market by using them market. Cross-subsidisation by multi-market businesses means that you can use the profits of one business to drive down your price in a different market with a view to bankrupting the existing sellers, thus reducing competition and enabling you to bypass the market and set a price the buyers cannot refuse. It needs no govt. to enable this activity and in fact govt. has a role to prevent it but often is bribed into quiescence. See Microsoft.

  152. Joe

    So under your system Venus Williams has to deliberately play badly to ensure the others win a few comps?

    Yes because buying and selling in a market is exactly equivalent to playing tennis. Idiot.

  153. Oh come on

    I see lil Ben is now going down the Glenn Beck route and selling survival rations.

    Why are you so contemptuous of the free market?

  154. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Once you understand that certain goods and services work well on the free market, while others should not be allowed, you need a framework to decide which is which and how to explain that.

    +1
    With as little interference as possible; explanations should be in terms of protecting the rights and freedoms of others within the law.

  155. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    New fred. Hooray. I have wasted enough of my time and likely that of others on this one.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Why are you so contemptuous of the free market?

    There’s much about Ben that is contrived. He can sell what he likes

  157. thefrollickingmole

    Heres one of the most strange and weird articles ever on their ABC…
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-23/how-to-avoid-unwanted-male-attention/9351766

    Pretty sure they will be calling for unattractive men to be banned from their presence.
    They cant decide if they are delicate Victorian wallflowers or strong grrrrls in these examples.

    “Bartended for years and saw this happen constantly. A weird passive thing guys tried to do was send drinks to women they didn’t know from across the bar. I always asked if ladies wanted the drink because if I just served it without warning, guys took a sip as an invitation.” — Nate Martins
    ..
    “I sometimes had to switch covers on my sci-fi / action books with romance books, as they were used as openers for guys to hit on me on my train commute” — Clara Nellist

    “I once was sitting in a bus station late at night and one of the male off-duty bus drivers chilled with me outside in the cold. He was 20 feet away from me but stayed so I would be safe. [He said]: ‘It’s late and I don’t want to leave you out here by yourself. Never know what could happen’.” — TokuSwag
    …..
    “I was once rescued by my rescue service when my car broke down. The driver got out of the truck and said: ‘I brought my girlfriend with me because I thought you’d be happier if there was another woman with us for the drive back’.” — Legionseagle

    I feel sorry for the young of both genders in this world where the weirdest of both sexes seem to be conspiring to create a new “normal”..

  158. Infidel Tiger

    You can capture a market by using them market. Cross-subsidisation by multi-market businesses means that you can use the profits of one business to drive down your price in a different market with a view to bankrupting the existing sellers, thus reducing competition and enabling you to bypass the market and set a price the buyers cannot refuse. It needs no govt. to enable this activity and in fact govt. has a role to prevent it but often is bribed into quiescence. See Microsoft.

    Leftist swill.

  159. Oh come on

    But seriously, how is it not sensible to prepare for a catastrophic government failure? There’s absolutely no sense to do it in urban Australia, as the means to defend ourselves and our supplies from marauding gangs that would spring up in the absence of law enforcement have been confiscated. But that just contrasts our stupidity with the wisdom of the American system.

  160. Baldrick

    Peter Jackson is doing a WW1 movie. They’ve taken old film of the time and sharpened the images. It’s quite incredible.

    It’s a remarkable project. Will no doubt be worth a view when released.

  161. testpattern

    ‘Bloke I know went into the old Nightcliff Hotel which had the cage bar…I think that was the one on the esplanade there.’

    You know nothing about Darwin. The Cage was at Lims. What you refer to as the ‘old Nightcliff’ was the Dolphin.

    So many bullshittters here.

  162. cynical1

    Grieving families asked to consider alternatives to balloon releases at funerals.

    Holy shit.

    The live baiters at Urangan Pier in Hervey Bay make funerals look like beginners.

    I’m surprised all the dugongs, whales, turtles, and gormless greeny swimmers haven’t choked to death.

  163. Tel

    Yes because buying and selling in a market is exactly equivalent to playing tennis. Idiot.

    Nothing is EXACTLY equivalent to anything, you can always search hard to find some tiny difference.

    But when you are down to nitpicking and name calling, you have obviously run out of real arguments.

  164. cynical1

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-23/how-to-avoid-unwanted-male-attention/9351766

    The MSM hate us.

    Stale, Male, Pale.

    So, today’s men cannot even make pass.

    Because today’s women cannot reject one without help and advice.

    Good luck with the tyre, tap washer, blocked toilet, spider.

    No wonder these harridans think combat should be equal opportunity.

  165. Tel

    You can capture a market by using them market.

    Only by delivering a better product, hence my tennis analogy. Hopefully this is helpful…

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/analogy

    Cross-subsidisation by multi-market businesses means that you can use the profits of one business to drive down your price in a different market with a view to bankrupting the existing sellers, thus reducing competition and enabling you to bypass the market and set a price the buyers cannot refuse.

    So can you find an example of anyone who was successful doing that?

    It needs no govt. to enable this activity and in fact govt. has a role to prevent it but often is bribed into quiescence. See Microsoft.

    Microsoft did not use cross-subsidization, they pressured the hardware vendors into contracts where each unit sold had to pay a Microsoft license whether or not the vendor shipped any software. But what ultimately brought down this strategy? Was if government that saved us from Microsoft with their wonderful regulations? Hell no! The USA and the EU had all these court cases but the result in consumer terms was zippo, nothing. Completely useless.

    Microsoft’s strategy was undermined by “white box” computing hardware, and by free market competitors in the marketplace such as Linux, Apple (BSD), FreeBSD, etc. Microsoft are still hanging around but they make very little money shipping operating systems (then again, neither does anyone else because it’s massively commoditized now).

  166. Arky;

    This is why the humane thing to do is only ever release doves with lit fireworks inserted.

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed, Arky, but the first thing a bird will do on takeoff, is shit.
    Your plan may backfire.
    You have been warned of the consequences of your foolish humane thoughts.

  167. stackja

    NSW Mid North Coast earth tremors might be a sign of things to come
    ABC Online-1 hour ago
    A Geoscience Australia expert says he cannot discount the possibility a series of earth tremors felt on the NSW Mid North Coast in recent days is the lead-up to a larger earthquake.

    AGW?

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