Monday Forum: February 12, 2018

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Bourke was rooting one of his staff while he was married. They only spent $200,000+ on first class travel together.

    No one from the LNP went them. Now we know why.

  2. JC

    Naaa. They didn’t go after Tony Burka because they’re gutless spivs, scared of their own shadow.

  3. calli

    Yesterday I was told the Burke/Laris thing is a unicorn furphy, IT. Yet here you are bringing it up again.

    How about that!

  4. Marcus

    Seven reporting damning allegations: it is alleged that Joyce pinched a woman on the bum at a pub seven years ago. The man is insatiable.

    What a country.

    I suppose it says something good about Australia that something this petty is what passes for a serious scandal. Say what you will about the Clintons, but at least they know how to do a good scandal. Or the British – when they have a sex scandal, they go all the way. Foreign spies. Fahion photographers. S&M parties. Lords in masks being whipped.

    Us? Well, we have a guy who left his wife for a younger woman, and he shuffled her around a couple of his ministers’ officers, and technically he may have been within the rules if he didn’t consider her his “partner” at the time but according to the Parliamentary Codes of Conduct…

    Booorrrrinngg.

    The next time someone high up in Australian politics has an affair, it should be such an affair that it truly demands the level of coverage “Paperwork Gate” has been getting. I expect there to be coke parties. I expect there to have been embezzlement on a grand scale to support the paramour in her new lifestyle. I expect there to be blackmail allegations, and witnesses to be paid off, and at least one investigative journalist to “disappear.”

    Then Chris Uhlmann can write another novel about the whole thing and Anna Torv can come back and star in the miniseries adaptation again.

    Until then, let’s face it. We’re lightweights when it comes to intrigue.

  5. Why weren’t the principles of the #MeToo movement ever applied to Shorten? It’s not as if they appeared ex nihilo. Why were Australian feminists MIA when that entire investigation was being conducted and as the MSM kept shtum?

  6. JC

    Yesterday I was told the Burke/Laris thing is a unicorn furphy, IT.

    Who told you that? Let me guess, it was Fatboy.

  7. I wonder if there have been any industrial issues involving unions there.

    It’s a Chinese owned building so if the Union scum are playing silly buggers I expect they might find some sharpened bamboo sticks on their front lawns soon.

  8. Mother Lode

    Naaa. They didn’t go after Tony Burka because they’re gutless spivs, scared of their own shadow.

    Yup.

    These shitheads know how to do politics but lack the courage to deploy it against Labor. They just backstab each other.

  9. egg_

    Nothing is more sickening than a party led by Shorten and Bourke getting stuck into Joyce.

    Plibbers on Insiders last Sunday was very flushed in face and chest, but looking very contrite, when discussing the Campion jerbs angle.
    Downers to calm her excitement, like her more subdued Q&A appearance of late?

  10. egg_

    Campion jerbs angle.

    Teh Politics of envy Pardee.

  11. Bourke was rooting one of his staff while he was married. They only spent $200,000+ on first class travel together.

    No one from the LNP went them. Now we know why.

    I never cease to be amazed at how gutless and uninterested in politics the LNP actually are. To describe them as losers is an affront to losers.

  12. Stimpson J. Cat

    A new species of all-female crayfish able to reproduce without males is multiplying rapidly and invading ecosystems across the world.

    See my posts on the Jordan Peterson thread for more insight into this dangerous phenomena.

  13. stackja

    dover_beach
    #2635750, posted on February 13, 2018 at 9:59 am
    What is Burke’s scandal again? I think we need to be reminded of it if only out of the public interest.

    High-profile Australian political figures driven by power and vanity fall for staffers time after time
    DANIELLE GUSMAROLI, The Daily Telegraph
    February 8, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    Labor frontbencher Tony Burke came under fire for charging taxpayers $48,000 in 2009 to take first-class flights to Spain and Italy with his staffer Skye Laris, who is now his partner.

    Mr Burke separated from his wife Cathy ­Bresnan-Burke in 2012 and two years later Mr Burke and Ms Laris went public with their relationship.

    And

    Former federal treasurer Jim Cairns’ affair with his private secretary Junie Morosi generated whispering campaigns and rocked the Whitlam government in the 1970s.

    He denied it and even sued for defamation, but in 2002 he finally came clean and admitted to a sexual relationship.

    Former foreign minister and deputy Labor leader Gareth Evans’ five-year affair with his star recruit Cheryl Kernot generated frenzied media interest in the late-1990s and early-2000s.

    Former Australian Democrat leader Ms Kernot had moved to the ALP in 1997, a defection that rocked Australian politics and later shone the spotlight on their affair.
    Mr Evans lied to parliament about what he later described in an email as a “grand consuming passion” in an email, and the affair ended with Ms Kernot leaving politics, saying her priority would be recovering from the vitriol heaped on her.

  14. Mother Lode

    Why were Australian feminists MIA when that entire investigation was being conducted and as the MSM kept shtum?

    Feminists only pose as being idealistic so as to seem pure.

    There are any number of issues where they ought to at least demand symbolic action (lefties like symbolic acts) like demanding some sort of trade sanctions against the more rigorously Sunni Arab states, or against the treatment of Aboriginal women – bu no.

    They think a major issue is making sure that a wealthy female barrister they like gets to become a wealthy female judge. They fight for quotas to get themselves on the boards of companies.

    Feminists are a club of self-indulgent opportunists.

  15. stackja

    Politicians on all sides have struggled with fidelity
    CAROLINE MARCUS
    Caroline Marcus
    February 13, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    Manager of opposition business Tony Burke warned his fellow Labor MPs not to heckle Joyce during Question Time.

    That’s not surprising, given Burke was himself the subject of headlines after ringing up $225,000 in overseas travel expenses in 2008-09, including first-class flights for himself and then-staffer, now partner, Skye Laris.

    Burke’s office defended the expenses, saying that it was “standard” for Laris, as adviser and then chief-of-staff, to travel with the minister, while Laris came out firing saying that her success was due only to her being “damn good” at her job.

    Laris’ marriage broke down in late 2009, while Burke split from wife of 26 years Cathy Bresnan-Burke in 2012; Burke and Laris went public with their new relationship two years after that.

    At the time, Bresnan-Burke — like Joyce’s wife Natalie — spoke movingly of her “humiliation and distress.”

    “I need to heal from what is a devastating loss and betrayal for me,” Bresnan-Burke posted on her Facebook page. “Some would say this should be done in privacy and ordinarily I would agree but in this case nothing about this situation is in private.”

  16. stackja

    Trains and traffic were effected by Quay fire.

  17. C.L

    Nothing is more sickening than a party led by Shorten and Bourke getting stuck into Joyce.

    Don’t forget Plibersek. When it comes to lining up a job for a disgraced partner, she and her husband took things to a whole new level. A convicted heroin trafficker made director-general of NSW schools; now director-general of family and community services. He has an arts degree.

  18. C.L

    The Michelle Obama portrait looks like something painted by a master – then damaged and restored by Mr Bean.

  19. egg_

    Bourke getting stuck into Joyce.

    Happens everywhere, including church congregations.
    Barndoor bonked any parishioners?

  20. stackja

    egg_
    #2635777, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:31 am

    And fraud attempted in last century at least once that I know of .

  21. Not Uh oh

    Have there been any complaints about Obama manspreading or does he get a pass?

  22. stackja

    2GB report NSW Legionnaires disease outbreak.

  23. JC

    I don’t think Mr Plibersek should have been offered those jobs, but there’s one thing you can say about him. At the very depths he did turn his life around and got to a better spot. That’s a good thing.

  24. stackja

    Not Uh oh
    #2635779, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:36 am
    Have there been any complaints about Obama manspreading or does he get a pass?

    BO is above all criticism

  25. min

    Madly in love that’s the hormones talking . Wait until they become abituated.. It’s like drugs it wears off and you need more to get the high.

  26. C.L

    At the very depths he did turn his life around and got to a better spot.

    With a little help from NSW taxpayers.

  27. egg_

    And fraud attempted in last century at least once that I know of .

    Methinks Joe Public can distinguish between a competent person placed in a $190k p.a. job and elitists p1ssing $200k of public money up the wall on an overseas trip.

  28. Mother Lode

    There has been a bomb scare at Parramatta Court House.

  29. Naaa. They didn’t go after Tony Burka because they’re gutless spivs, scared of their own shadow.

    True dat but you also have to wonder why Labor go after the slightest indiscretion by the Libs so hard. It’s not just politics it’s envy. They truly believe only they are entitled to rort spend public money and they deserve to as they are so fucking amazing and compassionate. Burke & Laris / Mr. Pliberseks $300,000 job are all completely fine because they are from a Government that spends and takes care of da poory so therefore they are deserving of the high life. Bronny in a chopper? Jobs for Barney’s mistress? Noooooooooo! They be evil Tory scum!

    Nothing ever changes with the left. They are lazy entitled elitist fuckers. Witness the billionaire Chavez’s, the luxury of the Kim’s, Hitler & co. in Berchtesgaden, Stalin & co. in the Dachaus, the multi-millionaires Rudd, Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, Gore – never ran an actual business or produced anything of value – Gillard and her sinecures, the cozy well-paid positions on boards, they all see it as their Divine Right Left (that’s a new one for the Catictionary!)

    Never get between a Socialist and other people’s money.

  30. JC

    She’s always been an imbecile.

    Dutch courage needed here

    NBC’s Katie Couric had some Dutch in stitches when she said during the opening ceremony of the PyeongChang Olympics that the Netherlands was so good at speed skating because it “is an important mode of transportation”.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Have there been any complaints about Obama manspreading or does he get a pass?

    Personspreading, surely?

    As to the portraits they strike me as amateurish. Any of our Archibald prize winners would do better.

  32. egg_

    They are lazy entitled… fuckers.

    Curiously, that was Desky’s description of ATSIC staffers, regardless of colour.

  33. egg_

    entitled… ATSIC staffers

    ’cause they’re “special, compassionate” whiteys?

  34. H B Bear

    Wind, ice and cold are making this Olympics too wintry

    Should have held in in Qatar like the w0g ball. Given how corrupt the IOC is I’m surprised they didn’t.

  35. Delta A

    Two commonsense letters in The $Oz today.

    There is only one way to “close the gap” and bring about genuine reconciliation for our Aborigines (“$130bn to close shamefully little of the gap”, 12/2). Treat them like any other Australian: no separate queues; no separate forms; no separate government departments, welfare or handouts; and no minister for Aboriginal affairs.

    They are Australians — treat them with the same respect as the rest of us: special treatment is divisive and lowers the expectations of all.

    Jim Campbell, Fairlight, NSW

    If we are serious about closing the gap between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal, we need to focus on that other huge gap within the Aboriginal population — the gap between well-off Aboriginal people and the extremely disadvantaged.

    This means that assistance and resources should be focused on need rather than simply on Aboriginal status. While we might see some net progress if Aboriginal people are all lumped together and we compare them with non-Aboriginal Australians, we will miss those who are extremely disadvantaged due to the effects of averaging. Those Aboriginal Australians who suffer the most, typically live in the remote areas and are without a voice. It’s time we listened to them.

    Anthony Dillon, North Sydney, NSW

    I would love to see Anthony Dillon nominate for the federal Hor or Senate.

  36. JC

    Monster, Monst.. you around? Not round.. around?

    At the height of the NBN debates here you were telling us it was technologically impossible for mobile to compete.

    Now this:

    NBN Co boss Bill Morrow has conceded the company rolling out the National Broadband Network will miss its long-term revenue ­target of $52 per user, with the looming threat of mobile broadband alternatives set to add to the network’s headaches. Mr Morrow yesterday indicated NBN Co would have to ­revise its target of hitting average revenue per user (ARPU) of $52 by 2021, saying the move was needed to accommodate recent changes made to NBN Co’s wholesale ­pricing structure.

    In December, NBN Co made retailers a temporary credit offer for acquiring 50 per cent more CVC per user. It also made access virtual circuit (AVC), the second charge paid to NBN Co for access, for the 50 Mbps plan available for the price of the 25 Mbps plan.

    “We still expect to get to $52, but it will be probably later in time than we had originally forecast,” Mr Morrow said.

    He added that for the time being, discounts to the wholesale prices were doing the trick, ­especially when it came to connecting homes to higher-speed NBN plans.

    You should be sent to Crane’s court with the option of exile not open to you.

  37. Mother Lode

    Have there been any complaints about Obama manspreading or does he get a pass?

    It was the most masculine thing he ever did.

    And it was a godsend – without him doing that noone would not be able to use a process of elimination to declare that he must be the man half of the Obama couple since Michelle was in no discernible way a women.

    Or maybe Hillary suggested he take classes since she wanted to keep ‘First Female President’ for her campaign and didn’t want to be pipped at the post by self-absorbed yammering metrosexual pyjama-boy loser.

  38. Dr Faustus

    The scandal is why a non-entity like Damian Drum would be hiring a $191,000 pa ‘media advisor’.

    A run-of-the-mill public sector Media & Digital Communications Manager is on about $75,000.

    Our Canberra elite can pork whoever is up for it. However I’d much prefer they didn’t fuck the taxpayers as much as they do.

  39. Neil

    In December, NBN Co made retailers a temporary credit offer for acquiring 50 per cent more CVC per user.

    Apparently that is the reason for slow speeds. High CVC fees charged by NBNCo means Telcos do not purchase enough bandwidth. Nothing to do with changes by Turnbull

  40. Mother Lode

    As to the portraits they strike me as amateurish.

    Then they are perfect.

  41. With all the media advisors on huge salaries on both sides of Parliament, I am shocked at the dearth of media releases from all Politicians.
    A stage 1 TAFE class in PR could do better.

  42. stackja

    min
    #2635784, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:39 am
    Madly in love that’s the hormones talking . Wait until they become abituated.. It’s like drugs it wears off and you need more to get the high.

    Like breathing out and breathing in?

  43. calli

    As a Media and Communications Manager, Ms Campion proved to be an abject failure.

  44. Michelle’s portrait “heroes” her dress, not her.

  45. egg_

    why a non-entity like Damian Drum would be hiring a $191,000 pa ‘media advisor’.

    Probably gilding the lily, but the ALP probably have more than their fair share of pork barreling jobs for teh wymminz*?

    *Probably wafer thin ice, viz competency in the job.

  46. stackja

    calli
    #2635807, posted on February 13, 2018 at 11:11 am
    As a Media and Communications Manager, Ms Campion proved to be an abject failure.

    And all the others, that slip under the radar?

  47. calli

    The spectacle of Tony Windsock dancing around and mugging over an alleged pinched bottom is today’s high point. What a scoop.

  48. Mother Lode

    Our Canberra elite can pork whoever is up for it. However I’d much prefer they didn’t fuck the taxpayers as much as they do.

    They should get politicians to pay 1% of their staffers’ pay and, in return, give the politicians a 5% pay rise.

    Stingey tightfisted bastards would do all in their power to beat down the salaries of the staffers just to keep as much of that 5% as possible and so the 99% the public would be paying would be kept down.

    If we could harness pollies’ primal instincts of avarice to reduce government spending we would be running a surplus by 3:00 this afternoon and the APS could all work in a single building and still have room for a Pizza Shop and an Officeworks on the ground floor.

  49. Bruce of Newcastle

    If only Barnaby had read this new science paper.

    Predictors for infidelity and divorce highlighted in new research (12 Feb)

    The FSU research team followed 233 newly married couples for up to 3 1/2 years and documented intimate details about their relationships, including marital satisfaction, long-term commitment, whether they had engaged in infidelity and if they were still together.

    Surprisingly, people satisfied with sex in their relationship were more likely to engage in infidelity, perhaps suggesting they felt more positive about sex in general and would seek it out regardless of how they felt about their main relationship.

    Rootrats are more likely to endanger pot plants than less priapic gentlefolk?

    Another predictor of infidelity was attractiveness. A person’s own attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among women but not men—meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair. A partner’s attractiveness was negatively associated with infidelity among men but not women—meaning men were more likely to be unfaithful when their partners were less attractive.

    Ugly women like affairs and men with ugly partners like affairs? So much for inner beauty.

    Researchers discovered that participants who quickly disengaged their attention from an attractive person were less likely to engage in infidelity. The time of that response was notable: Individuals who looked away in as little as a few hundred milliseconds faster than average were nearly 50 percent less likely to have sex outside marriage.

    Conversely, partners who took significantly longer to look away from romantic alternatives had a higher risk of infidelity, and their marriages were more likely to fail.

    If you want your marriage to last, stop window shopping…

  50. calli

    Well, Stacks, if anyone was paid to manage her own media nightmare, she was.

  51. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2635791, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:47 am
    Have there been any complaints about Obama manspreading or does he get a pass?

    Personspreading, surely?

    As to the portraits they strike me as amateurish. Any of our Archibald prize winners would do better.

    Peroffspringing. you can not use the word son.

  52. egg_

    A run-of-the-mill public sector Media & Digital Communications Manager is on about $75,000.

    State Public Servants would have to be the most over rewarded on average – GST being p1ssed up the wall?
    There’s probably an exodus out of Canberra.

  53. H B Bear

    The scandal is why a non-entity like Damian Drum would be hiring a $191,000 pa ‘media advisor’.

    Please, Damian Dumb has set the Fremantle Dockers well on the way to being an AFL powerhouse, notwithstanding their previous and current laughing stock status.

    While not defending the Beetroot rooter, all these created positions have been “… up to $191,000 ” jobs. As anyone who has been to an “up to 80% off” sale knows there is a lot of room underneath the cap.

  54. stackja

    calli
    #2635814, posted on February 13, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Well, Stacks, if anyone was paid to manage her own media nightmare, she was.

    Yes. Does help others if have compliant MSM. How many people remember the truth of past events. Selective memory.

  55. marcus classis

    Des Deskperson
    #2635708, posted on February 13, 2018 at 9:16 am
    Some interesting acts bout Ms campaign’s employment post Barnaby. Acceding to the Australian:

    She was moved between three Nationals MP’s offices in six month
    She took up her final job with Damian Drum in August 2107
    She was on ‘stress leave’ from October 2017 ‘until her employment was terminated.’
    She took a redundancy package in December 2017
    According to ‘standard practice’, she continued to draw a salary for eight weeks after her redundancy payout, so her actual termination is sometime this week.

    So it would appear that for the last four to five months she has been on ‘stress leave’.

    There is no such thing as ‘stress leave’. Campion would have had to take personal leave, 15 days a year cumulative. I don’t know her length of service, but it would be interesting to know how she eked out her ‘stress leave’ over the last 4 to 5 months.

    Easy, Des. Seen APS do this a lot. Go to the EAP people to get on record that you are not coping and are depessed (for example). Then they go see their family doc who signs off on a few weeks or months ‘unfit for work’ because depressed (to use the above example). Take whatever accrued sick leave there is at half pay.

    What I’d like to know is how she got a redundancy package (has to be a VR) in Dec 17 after being terminated in Oct 17.

  56. H B Bear

    For those who haven’t seen it logic versus outrage on Q&A

    I’m surprised Van didn’t get up and take a dump on the Teh Snowcone Variety Hour desk in an attempt to get people to pay attention to her ravings.

  57. egg_

    Shouty Guardian Marxist Van Badham

    Winnah of a T Blair ‘Frightbat of the Year’ poll?

  58. egg_

    I’m surprised Van didn’t get up and take a dump on the Teh Snowcone Variety Hour desk in an attempt to get people to pay attention to her ravings.

    Whilst quoting Gandhi?

  59. LNP insider

    Behind the scenes one of the key issues in the Nationals is conservative Senator Barry O’Sullivan removing his support of Barnaby months ago. That removal split the Queensland Nationals preventing Canavan from gaining deputy leader. Barry was the one that encouraged Keith Pitt to run in that contest and is agitating for a seperate LNP party room.

    Barry was the Treasurer of the LNP under Bruce McIver prior to parliament, but he also was State Executive’s head kicker who found out about all the dark secrets and buried the bodies. Interestingly the guy who did the digging for Barry was Llew O’Brien. Llew and Barry have fallen out due to Llew staying loyal to Barnaby.

    Barry has enough dirt on others to do real damage, but Llew has enough on Barry.

    Fun times in the Nationals.

  60. JC

    Insider

    Why don’t you people stop it with the insider crap and do your jobs instead of worrying about what dirt you’re able to dredge up about each other. It may help improve your poll standing, you know.

  61. JC

    One other thing. Stop with trying to root the staff. Head off to bars or Tinder and pick up skirt there, FFS.

  62. So in the past couple of days we have learnt the following about the left;

    – They hate our military and would charge them with War Crimes if they were able.
    – They lavish praise on the wife of the North Korean leader and denigrate the wife of the United States President.
    – They would like to assassinate not only the US President but also his family.

    Anybody else think it is about time we started to acknowledge we have a serious fucking problem and (to borrow a trite phrase from the left) sit down and have a bloody conversation about it?

  63. JC

    – They would like to assassinate not only the US President but also his family.

    They’re sending white powder to the Prez’s daughter in law.

    (to borrow a trite phrase from the left) sit down and have a bloody conversation about it?

    There’s nothing to discuss as their intentions are well known. They want to murder all of us who don’t support their ideology.

  64. stackja

    egg_
    #2635816, posted on February 13, 2018 at 11:19 am

    ALP move lots of mates about. LNP some too.

  65. Chris

    Surprisingly, people satisfied with sex in their relationship were more likely to engage in infidelity, perhaps suggesting they felt more positive about sex

    It reads as though there is no recognition of relative perceived status in the relationships analysed. The partner with more status has more power in the relationship, likely to get higher effort to satisfy from the other partner. That will give an entitled attitude in some, and probably also higher pulling power, outside the relationship.

  66. Roger

    Whilst quoting Gandhi?

    St. Gandhi was a racist who agitated for increased segregation whilst resident in South Africa.

  67. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Whilst quoting Gandhi?

    St. Gandhi was a racist who agitated for increased segregation whilst resident in South Africa.

    He also had sex with his relatives.

  68. 132andBush

    Insider

    Why don’t you people stop it with the insider crap and do your jobs instead of worrying about what dirt you’re able to dredge up about each other. It may help improve your poll standing, you know.

    +1
    Mos Eisley cantina.

  69. LNP insider

    It’s time this stuff comes out. I’m disillusioned with it all and want it out there. The good people in the membership are wasting their time for these self-serving underachievers and no talents. The Nats are just as bad if not worse than the Libs. It’s as simple as that.

  70. calli

    That was because he drank his own urine.

    That never turns out well.

  71. Chris

    That was because he drank his own urine.

    Bear Grills – was he satyrised in advance?

  72. egg_

    I’m surprised Van didn’t get up and take a dump on the Teh Snowcone Variety Hour desk in an attempt to get people to pay attention to her ravings.

    It would probably get 100 ‘likes’ from the Qwerty rubber wearers faction?
    Grigs?

  73. Roger

    The good people in the membership are wasting their time for these self-serving underachievers and no talents. The Nats are just as bad if not worse than the Libs. It’s as simple as that.

    Those good people should join Australian Conservatives, the only viable conservative alternative .

    Personal politics is unavoidable, but a good organization keeps it under control for the greater good of realizing the party’s ideals. The Nats are imploding because of the lack of leadership at that level.

  74. Not Uh oh

    You wont see any portraits of Barnaby manspreading. He’s definitely a leg-over man.

  75. EvilElvis

    Good points from Anthony, Delta.

    This is poignant,
    Those Aboriginal Australians who suffer the most, typically live in the remote areas and are without a voice. It’s time we listened to them.

    I think the definition of aboriginal needs tightening. If you are not a product of traditional Aboriginals ‘kinship’ breeding (or whatever the fuck the marriage system was called) you have foregone the culture or have been shunned from that traditional culture so have no claim as an aboriginal. Remove the self identification aspect. The money would go where it’s needed then and a lot less of it.

  76. RobK

    and probably also higher pulling power, outside the relationship.
    Now I’m confused.

  77. cohenite

    And now for some classic car chase action: Steve McQueen in Bullitt:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1db3g

  78. EvilElvis

    Good points from Anthony, Delta.

    This is poignant,
    Those Aboriginal Australians who suffer the most, typically live in the remote areas and are without a voice. It’s time we listened to them.

    I think the definition of aboriginal needs tightening. If you are not a product of traditional Aboriginals ‘kinship’ breeding (or whatever the fuck the marriage system was called) you have foregone the culture or have been shunned from that traditional culture so have no claim as an aboriginal. Remove the self identification aspect. The money would go where it’s needed then and a lot less of it.

  79. Roger

    That was because he drank his own urine. That never turns out well.

    You’re taking the piss, surely? 😉

    Let’s just say he was a very strange little man who yet managed to bring the Raj to its knees.

    After that he became an embarrassment to more pragmatically minded Indians.

  80. egg_

    I have often wondered about the motions the body goes through immediately prior to death. What’s the evolutionary point of, say, voiding your bowels just before you cark it?

    The body’s ‘second brain’ controlling the digestive system?
    ‘Fight or flee’ impulse can trigger animals to defecate – lightens the load for fight/escape?
    Alleged mad bonking in Hitler’s bunker when they knew they were all going to die – the impulse to reproduce, like a tree can fruit before it dies?

  81. Monster, Monst.. you around? Not round.. around?

    At the height of the NBN debates here you were telling us it was technologically impossible for mobile to compete.

    JC, the fatal flaw in Muttley’s logic is the fact that even the best technology ever made will not perform if run by a bunch of Muttleys.

  82. Blockquote fail. The last paragraph is mine.

  83. Baldrick

    Anybody else think it is about time we started to acknowledge we have a serious fucking problem and (to borrow a trite phrase from the left) sit down and have a bloody conversation about it?

    +1
    Leftards are evil.
    Pure.Fucking.Evil

  84. egg_

    At the height of the NBN debates here you were telling us it was technologically impossible for mobile to compete.

    Quoting the resident Wrongologist/rake gatherer?

  85. Tom

    It’s time this stuff comes out. I’m disillusioned with it all and want it out there.

    Your posts are compulsory reading, Insider. Thanks.

  86. There’s nothing to discuss as their intentions are well known. They want to murder all of us who don’t support their ideology.
    I don’t think people are generally aware of this otherwise they would be doing something about it. Until conservatives stop thinking this is a game that can be won with Queensbury-esque rules we are going to end up dead, or worse, living under Socialislam.

    If the Obama’s had received white powder here’s what would have happened;

    Firstly, Barry would have bummed a $20 note from a Secret Service Agent so he could snort it.
    Secret Service Agent would have pointed out that the white powder might not be Yeyo. Barry would have told him he doesn’t speak Ebonics. Agent would sigh and remove powder for testing. There would then follow 3 months of arrests and bashings of Tea Partiers, Republicans and gun owners followed by laws outlawing public gatherings of da ebil vast right wing conspiracy and a media campaign denouncing anything to the right of Trotsky.

    Trump wouldn’t lose a single vote if he ordered raids on Anti-Fa and BLM and had them skull-fucked with mace soaked batons.

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Two interesting ideas there, Egg, that the bowel response is about dumping weight, and the turning to sex is a reproductive urge. The first one makes sense. The second one, the mad sexuality in times of despair, seems to me to be more like the first, an escape mechanism for the mind rather than connected directly with reproduction. I remember years ago reading a Zola novel, ending with the protagonists, a man and a woman, entombed in a coal mine, whereupon they have sex together as a last gesture towards life.

    Zola wrote some very strange things at times.

  88. mh

    I have not been following the Barnaby affair closely, but I am wondering if his new sheila deliberately got pregnant.

  89. egg_

    Anybody else think it is about time we started to acknowledge we have a serious fucking problem and (to borrow a trite phrase from the left) sit down and have a bloody conversation about it?

    The Left’s attitude is played out weekly on Q&A and daily on The Drum.
    Favourite meme – “Rich Old White Men”.
    The politics of envy.
    Victim poker favourites – Muzzos, Qwerties, Abos – in that order.
    “He who cries the loudest”?

  90. Stimpson J. Cat

    since Michelle was in no discernible way a women.

    He’s a man.
    Joan Rivers was murdered by plastic surgery to keep the secret.

  91. Des Deskperson

    ‘While not defending the Beetroot rooter, all these created positions have been “… up to $191,000 ” jobs. As anyone who has been to an “up to 80% off” sale knows there is a lot of room underneath the cap.’

    In fact the current annual salary range for a ‘Senior Media Adviser’ is between $127,893 and $184,198. One would have to be the PM’s media adviser to get the top of the range money.

    I’m not sure where the $191,000 comes from. According to the MOPS EA incremental salary increases, top of the range advisers won’t be entitled to this until April next year.

  92. Mother Lode

    To the tune of Black Betty:

    Oh-oh That dreaded, Van Badham
    Oh-oh That dreaded, Van Badham
    That dreaded was a child (Van Badham)
    An’ growed up growed riled (Van Badham)
    She’s just outta her mind (Van Badham)
    And just far too well dined (Van Badham)
    I said “Oh, that dreaded, Van Badham”
    Whoa, That dreaded, Van Badham.

  93. egg_

    I am wondering if his new sheila deliberately got pregnant.

    “got him by the b*lls”.

  94. Mother Lode

    Joan Rivers was murdered by plastic surgery to keep the secret.

    Anne? Any light to shed on this?

  95. Stimpson J. Cat

    That was because he drank his own urine.

    Better to drink your own p$ss than sh$t in the street.
    – Gandhi.

  96. Bruce in WA

    I have not been following the Barnaby affair closely, but I am wondering if his new sheila deliberately got pregnant.

    Were I Bananaby, I’d be insisting on a paternity test.

  97. H B Bear

    If Vikki is sitting down and working out the budget for the Love Shack and Young Baanaby it might not be a good idea to use the Deputy PM’s salary as a starting point.

  98. Stimpson J. Cat

    ‘stress leave’

    God these sane people are such whiny little b$tches.
    Honestly it’s disgusting.

  99. jupes

    It’s all around the world — Hiroshima, Auschwitz, 9/11’s ground zero, Port Arthur — to [Rottnest] …

    LOL What a load of shit.

    Is Testes writing for the ABC now?

    RTWT for a classic piece of black arm-band propaganda.

  100. Knuckle Dragger

    Lizzie,

    Interesting. There are plenty of anecdote around that as soon as Berliners were within range of Russian long-range artillery in April 1945, air raid shelters were full of men and women going at like there was no tomorrow. Which, for many of them, there wasn’t.

    The same occurred in the Fuhrerbunker as the Soviet armies were closing in on the city centre, according to the “big man”‘s personal secretary. She somehow got out of the city and across the Elbe, where she was taken prisoner by the Western Allies.

  101. Roger

    Remove the self identification aspect. The money would go where it’s needed then and a lot less of it.

    Traditional aboriginals would agree; if you’re not part of their moiety system you are an outsider regardless of ethnicity. Thus a white man can be part of the “clan” while an urban aborigine may not be; indeed, most urban aborigines marry outside the traditional moiety system, meaning they have disconnected themselves from traditional culture.

    Having said, that, the only rational criterion for welfare is need, not ethnicity or culture.

  102. Stimpson J. Cat

    —meaning less attractive women were more likely to have an affair.

    As hideous on the outside as they are on the inside.
    God’s justice revealed!

  103. Dr Faustus

    I’m not sure where the $191,000 comes from.

    News/The Australian – so possibly fake news:

    Ms Campion, a former journalist, took on the new job in April last year, The Australian reports. The salary band for a senior adviser is up to $191,000 a year, according to pay scales published by the Finance Department.

  104. Delta A

    I think the definition of aboriginal needs tightening

    Bolt was hauled up in front of the beak for writing something similar.

    That’s why I’d like to see Anthony Dillon in Parliament. He has a pass to say these things that the lefties don’t want discussed.

  105. mh

    If Vikki is sitting down and working out the budget for the Love Shack and Young Baanaby it might not be a good idea to use the Deputy PM’s salary as a starting point.

    He’s on a salary over 400k. Or are you making the point that he will soon be ex-deputy PM? Even if that happens, the residual revenue would be impressive.

  106. Leigh Lowe

    If Vikki is sitting down and working out the budget for the Love Shack and Young Baanaby it might not be a good idea to use the Deputy PM’s salary as a starting point.

    I am not sure Vikki envisioned herself bringing sandwiches into the St George office of Barnaby Joyce & Associates CPA during the quarterly GST rush, or hosting Rotary dinners.
    Bananaby will be in dire financial shit if he has to pay 50% of his super to Mrs Joyce 1.0 and has to support Mrs Joyce 2.0 + attachment on a junior MP salary.

  107. H B Bear

    Safe to assume Vikki’s plans don’t include a few shifts at the Tamworth Woolies once Young Baaanaby is old enough for daycare.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    Its all gone pear shaped.
    Thang you.
    Thang you very much.
    I’ll be here all week

  109. mh

    I think you guys may be underestimating how good the politicians have made things for themselves.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    mh … have you ever been to the Family Court?
    He will have to pay over the odds to Mrs Joyce 1.0 to avoid a long drawn out case, including debt financing for a payout of half of his super, which he don’t got yet.
    If he drops off the Deputy PM job he will lose a shitload in salary and freebies.

  111. mh

    If he drops off the Deputy PM job he will lose a shitload in salary and freebies.

    That’s what they want you to believe. They are politicians.

  112. Top Ender

    ‘Outrageous exploitation’: Plumber’s six-figure fine

    The Australian12:34PM February 13, 2018

    A plumbing operator who told a young worker to “seriously f..k off” when he asked for outstanding wages has been fined $21,500 and his company penalised $100,000 for the “outrageous exploitation” of the labourer.

    Federal Circuit Court judge Grant Riethmuller penalised Michael Patrick Pulis and his Victorian company for underpaying the worker $26,882 over just three months in 2014.

    Mr Pulis told the then 20-year-old he was being hired as a second-year apprentice, but never formally signed him up as an apprentice.

    He was paid an apprentice rate of $12.18 an hour, but should have received $37.08 an hour for ordinary hours and up to $74.16 an hour for overtime.

    Noting the Fair Work Ombudsman told Mr Pulis that labourer rates must be paid if an apprenticeship was not registered, Judge Riethmuller found the underpayment was deliberate.

    He said there was no “credible expression of regret” by Mr Pulis for paying the worker just a fifth of his legal entitlements.

    Despite the employee working 10 to 12 hours a day and never being counselled about his work, Mr Pulis told him after three months that his skills and attitude were not to a second-year apprentice’s standard.

    When the employee texted Mr Pulis asking when he would be paid wages owed to him, Mr Pulis responded by saying “Seriously, f..k off. When I’m ready”.

    Judge Riethmuller described the conduct as an “outrageous exploitation of a young person”, finding the behaviour was “nothing short of avarice”.

    “The conduct is worse than simply underpaying an employee who has had difficulty obtaining work elsewhere, as the respondents also held out the lure of an apprenticeship to this young man: a particularly significant career and life goal for a young person who is not academically inclined,’’ he said.

    Judge Riethmuller said “remarkably” five apprentices were previously employed by the company for less than 100 days.

    Fair Work Ombudsman Natalie James said the conduct was deliberate.

    “It is simply unacceptable to exploit any worker in such a way and the conduct is even more abhorrent when you consider the response the worker received for doing nothing more than asking for what he was lawfully entitled to,” Ms James said.

    Interesting how people don’t know what wage they’re entitled to.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The shorter Barnaby, “Floozy, bimbo, concubine, beau, paramour, courtesan. But never my partner.”

    I rather like doxy. It has rather a foxy sound to it. 🙂

  114. egg_

    Leigh Lowe
    #2635898, posted on February 13, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Karmic for a serial root rat?
    If he bails, he’ll likely cut a deal with Trumble for the usual well paid sinecure per Dastradly, methinks.

  115. cohenite

    The black arm band is fast becoming a shroud. ABC discovers the horrors of Rottnest:

    Glen Stasiuk, a lecturer and Indigenous researcher at Murdoch University, was just a teenager when he first went camping with his mates on Rottnest Island — Wadjemup — in the 1980s.

    He went skin diving, became inexplicably sick and had to be airlifted back to the mainland. He went back a year later and again became very sick. His mum told him it was probably about time he went and spoke to his Noongar nana.

    “It’s worra,” she said. “It’s worra, it’s menditj. It’s a sick place.”

    Stasiuk had camped at Tentland. For years and years, Tentland was the camping area on Rottnest; the place where families and teenagers pitched their tents, had a few drinks, and threw some sausages on the barbeque.

    What campers didn’t know was that they were sleeping on the unmarked graves of at least 373 Aboriginal men. It’s the largest deaths in custody site in Australia and the largest known burial ground of Aboriginal people.

    “See that spot over there with the Aboriginal flag?” Dr Stasiuk points as we’re walking around the burial site.

    “That’s where they uncovered the first skeletal remains in 1971 and I reckon that’s just about where I pitched my tent.”

    And so fucking on. And what the hell is a

    Noongar nana

    ?

  116. cohenite

    Link to above Rottnest story.

  117. H B Bear

    Other than the usual diplomatic posts, the Lieborals don’t have as many options for dumping their dead wood. The Liars have the bureaucracy, their union paymasters, academia and if you need to get rid of them in a hurry and a long way away the UK Labour Party.

  118. egg_

    Barndoor’s ex Chief of Staff is already GM of Inland Rail, per upthread?

  119. C.L

    Churchill purportedly remarked that it “takes a lot of money to keep Mr Gandhi in poverty.”

  120. Roger

    The Liars have the bureaucracy, their union paymasters, academia and if you need to get rid of them in a hurry and a long way away the UK Labour Party.

    It’s remarkable how many Labor figures are put out to pasture in academia. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wayne Swan, who is retiring “to spend more time with my grandchildren”, doesn’t soon thereafter land a gig at Griffith University lecturing on the economic import of Bruce Springsteen’s lyrics.

  121. LNP insider

    The two main leadership contenders are Mccormack or Chester/McKenzie (its uncertain which Victorian would be the option). The main issue is the O’Sullivan group doesn’t like them any more than they do Joyce.

    Thus is what is preventing a direct leadership challenge this afternoon.

  122. Rae

    Looks like Barnaby Joyce MHR is now a dead man walking. Question Time is gonna be interesting this week, every day.

  123. C.L

    At Ace’s: What All British Sports Look Like to Anyone Who Isn’t British

  124. Mother Lode

    It’s remarkable how many Labor figures are put out to pasture in academia.

    The humanities in academia does not require curiosity or rigour any more, and no Labor figures move into engineering or mathematics departments.

    The closest they would get to science is something related to Climate Change, which is to say they would not get close at all.

    The humanities, and much of the administration, are about preserving orthodoxy. And I fear even the hard sciences are increasingly being brought to heel.

  125. LNP insider

    We also need to talk about Senator Canavan. He is in the wrong house and this scandal has included him by the employment of Vicki. There is no possibility of parachuting him into any Queensland lower house seat. Flynn and Capricornia are marginals that will be lost next election.

    That said, he is in an awkward position as he very much is a family values politician whose initial senate preselection depended on conservative Nationals stalwarts and on the Toowoomba led Christians in the LNP led by Dr David van Gend. Awkward for him to stand by an adulterer.

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    He went skin diving

    OK let me stop you there.

    Infidel Tiger
    #2632772, posted on February 10, 2018 at 12:29 am
    Let’s make a deal everyone..: no one acknowledge or mention the weird troll ever again no matter what. Understood?

  127. Roger

    He is in the wrong house and this scandal has included him by the employment of Vicki.

    As with Joyce in the first instance, he could always have said no.

  128. Rae

    I rather like doxy

    Doxy is the short name for doxycycline. Like Joyce’s most recent dalliance, it can have quite nasty side effects.

  129. Boambee John

    Apparently US AG Jeff Sessions used the term “Anglo-American heritage” recently.

    The SJWankers who rejoice in terms like African-American, Latino, Chicano, Chinese-American and many more suddenly had a fit of the vapours. “Racism”, “dog whistles” were among the reactions.

    Perhaps we should make more use of Anglo-Australian? The simple pleasure of watching the resulting melt down will be wonderful.

  130. egg_

    Looks like Barndoor has been behaving more like the other side of the House (re pork barreling) – been bitten with Agrarian socialism?

  131. Apparently US AG Jeff Sessions used the term “Anglo-American heritage” recently.

    As usual BJ, you miss the point, which was that he used that phrase to refer to law enforcement, as if police work is rightfully done by white folk. Which it was back when slavery was the norm, but why bring that up now? Oh yes, because he would prefer to return to those times.

  132. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Anglo-American is the correct legal usage, you bonehead.

  133. johanna

    He went skin diving, became inexplicably sick and had to be airlifted back to the mainland. He went back a year later and again became very sick. His mum told him it was probably about time he went and spoke to his Noongar nana.

    “It’s worra,” she said. “It’s worra, it’s menditj. It’s a sick place.”

    Stasiuk had camped at Tentland. For years and years, Tentland was the camping area on Rottnest; the place where families and teenagers pitched their tents, had a few drinks, and threw some sausages on the barbeque.

    What campers didn’t know was that they were sleeping on the unmarked graves of at least 373 Aboriginal men. It’s the largest deaths in custody site in Australia and the largest known burial ground of Aboriginal people.

    Cripes, Brits, Europeans and many Chinese and Indians must all be getting the collywobbles on a regular basis as well. All those ‘unmarked graves’ beneath their feet.

    It costs taxpayers $1.2 billion a year for TheirABC to regurgitate this superstitious nonsense as fact.

  134. Pete of Perth

    Monty has emerged from the bunker

  135. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #2635903, posted on February 13, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    Leigh Lowe
    #2635898, posted on February 13, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Karmic for a serial root rat?
    If he bails, he’ll likely cut a deal with Trumble for the usual well paid sinecure per Dastradly, methinks.

    Sorry.
    My suggestion that he might go back to a realm job was hyper-bowl.

  136. Pete of Perth

    Only sickness I get going to Rotto is caused by the lightness of my wallet afterwards. Cheaper to spend a week in Bali.

  137. C.L

    Sessions is, of course, historically correct in all respects:

    “Since our founding, the independently elected sheriff has been the people’s protector, who keeps law enforcement close to and accountable to people through the elected process,” Mr Sessions told a National Sheriffs Association meeting, adding “the office of sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement”.

    From that same report:

    A Justice Department official serving under Barack Obama referenced the “Anglo-American common law system” during a 2016 speech.

  138. Chris

    The second one, the mad sexuality in times of despair, seems to me to be more like the first, an escape mechanism for the mind rather than connected directly with reproduction.

    Exactly Lizzie. It’s called a displacement activity.
    It’s like being on Catallaxy when I have work to do but ‘m scared of it.
    The classic example given is a dog chained between two other big and aggressive dogs that are threatening it with GBH; wee dog sits down and bites at a flea on its rump to displace the terror.

  139. cohenite

    Apparently US AG Jeff Sessions used the term “Anglo-American heritage” recently.

    Good, he’s lifted in my estimation.

  140. All this crying over Barnaby’s career prospects, pfft. There is a large pay check waiting with Gina’s signature on it.

  141. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The world is watching what we do today in America. They will know what we do here today, and they will treat all of us accordingly in the future—our soldiers, our diplomats, our journalists, anybody who travels beyond these borders. I hope we remember this as we go forward. I sincerely hope we can protect what has been called the “great writ”—a writ that has been in place in the Anglo-American legal system for over 700 years.

    – Barry Obama.

  142. jupes

    Back in the day I spent a few days at Tentland and I too got sick.

    Might have had more to do with the amount of piss I was drinking though rather than bones under the ground. Perhaps it was the same for the bloke with the “Noongar nana”.

    Just a theory.

  143. H B Bear

    The best days at Rottnest are when you never set foot on the place and just use it as a mooring.

  144. thefrolickingmole

    A Justice Department official serving under Barack Obama referenced the “Anglo-American common law system”

    Are you claiming Monty has been back for less than 2 days and managed a massive rakening already?

    “Rakehide”

    She rakin’, rakin’, rakin’
    Though the memes are swollen
    Keep them mistakes rollin’, rakehide
    Through google an’ bing an’ others
    serchengines for info
    Wishin’ the facts was by my side
    All the things I’m missin’
    Good facts, data an’ history’
    Are mistaken’ at the end of my post
    Move ’em on, head ’em up
    Head ’em up, move ’em on
    Move ’em on, head ’em up
    Rakehide!

  145. IT, Obama was talking about something different to what Sessions was talking about. As you well know.

  146. egg_

    m0nty
    #2635932, posted on February 13, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    With all of the entanglements coming out in the Press, he’s sure to have had something up his sleeve before talking to 730 et al.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    Welcome back Donut King!
    Has Dr Medownick’s lap-banding been a success?

  148. Stimpson J. Cat

    a writ that has been in place in the Anglo-American legal system for over 700 years.

    Monty you are a disappointing Lesbian-Australian.

  149. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Don’t be an idiot all your life, Monty.

    If you don’t understand what Anglo-American law means, then at least try and google it.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/456351/those-outraged-term-anglo-american-are-only-betraying-their-own-ignorance

  150. cohenite

    The fact is the Anglo-anything heritage is nonpareil. By comparison what is the aboriginal heritage?

  151. thefrolickingmole

    This actually isnt a parody, a drama from the BBC that reads like a SJWs wet dream.

    Time to play diversity bingo.
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/feb/12/collateral-review-carey-mulligan-shines-in-a-damaging-political-drama
    Abdullah’s MP, ex-husband of the woman in the flats (Piper), and a member of the shadow cabinet frustrated by his party’s increasing list to the right on immigration.

    The fault lines of the church as a place of succour look set to be examined through Walker’s character, Jane. Jane is a gay vicar whose lover Han Yang (who is in the country illegally – Jane got her old friend David unwittingly to help her stay) is the only witness to Abdullah’s murder. She has not told the police her real name or that she thinks the assassin was female. I’m not sure what protection she thinks the latter decision affords her, but as she was in a k-hole at the time I guess we must cut her some slack.

    Abdullah himself is – was – a Syrian refugee. In the garage he was using as a home Kip finds his two sisters, who remain tight-lipped. The assassin, it becomes clear, is part of the military establishment.

    Further wrinkles and lacunae abound. The girl who gave the delivery jobs out is the carer for her disabled mother and – the suggestion is – vulnerable to anyone who can either save or threaten her job.

    Without watching a bit of this Im predicting it was an evil white supremacist who dun the job!

  152. Chris

    The best days at Rottnest are when you never set foot on the place and just use it as a mooring.

    Its an awesome place to holiday with the kids when they are little.
    Snakes, bike accidents, nappies, quokka shit – somehow you live through the worst life has to offer.

    Wasn’t bad for Army camps way back, either.

  153. H B Bear

    Woah Googles G will be all over that like a tranny of colour disabled dwarf.

  154. Dr Faustus

    The Guardian is having the best time:

    PM reportedly testing Nationals support for Joyce leadership – politics live

    Deputy PM says he reserves right to take action for ‘serious defamation’ as fallout from his affair continues to rock the government.

    We’re all getting ready for question time – it promises to be an absolute doozy, so I hope you have your snacks ready.

    The Guardian link also gives an interesting timeline around who did what, knew what, or should have known what about BJob’s secret mens’ business. Expect stonewalling and careful, lawyerly responses during Question Time: the potential for ‘misleading the house’ looks to be significant.

  155. Arky

    C.L
    #2635913, posted on February 13, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    ..
    Ah.
    It isn’t that you are completely humourless.
    Just that your sense of humour is fucked.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    #2635943, posted on February 13, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    Don’t be an idiot all your life, Monty.

    Steady on.
    This is the Cat.
    We don’t make impossible demands on our colleagues here.

  157. Flynn and Capricornia are marginals that will be would have been lost next election, except Tits crapped on Adani & everybody’s job, to save the some seat in Melbourne.

    FIFY

  158. Geriatric Mayfly

    Turnbull opens QT speaking in tongues.

  159. IT, you should know the differences between cops and lawyers by now. You are of the age where shows about them are all you watch. And MASH, of course.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2635955, posted on February 13, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    Turnbull opens QT speaking in tongues.

    Welcome to Mandarin country?

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WORLD BREAKING NEWS
    ANC decides to remove Zuma in South Africa

    Reuters
    12:32PM February 13, 2018
    Save

    South Africa’s African National Congress party executive committee has decided to “recall” or remove President Jacob Zuma as head of state, a senior ANC source says, after a 13-hour meeting of the party’s top leadership.

    Since Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa was elected party leader in December, Zuma has faced mounting calls from his party to resign.

    The party’s executive committee has the authority to order Zuma to step down as head of state, although there is speculation he might refuse.

    Breaking news.

  162. thefrolickingmole

    And MASH, of course.

    Incorrect, nobody watches MASH.
    They have been repeating the same episode for the last 20 years and no-one has twigged onto it yet.

    Mawkish crap.

  163. Shouty Guardian Marxist Van Badham

    Sessions wants to return to the antebellum South, according to monty, because he noted the Anglo-American origins of the office of Sheriff, while Badham thinks that anyone the notes the Islamic roots of contemporary terrorism is a fascist. monty is simply Badham with bigger tits.

  164. Geriatric Mayfly

    Kev and his Missus are in the gallery. Actual questions will be delayed it appears, as time is set aside for pieties on a theme Aboriginal. I can just see them in remote communities, sitting in the red sand in front of a tv., spellbound by the scripted waffle now ascending.

  165. Woger;

    I propose an immediate intake of 12,000 under our refugee program.

    I don’t get the problem here.
    Are the SA farmers not allowed to emigrate here?
    Do they refuse to leave their farms despite the obvious parallels with Germany 1938?

  166. stackja

    Ho Ledinh: Arrest over Bankstown lawyer’s shooting murder
    Emma Partridge, Sally Rawsthorne, The Daily Telegraph
    6 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    POLICE are expected to charge a man with murder after he allegedly shot Sydney lawyer Ho Ledinh dead outside a Bankstown cafe in January.

    The Daily Telegraph understands the man — who police will allege was the triggerman — was arrested as he attempted to board a flight with a one-way ticket to Bali.

    The 38-year-old man is being questioned at Mascot police station and is expected to be charged with murder later this afternoon.

    Homicide detectives had not planned to arrest the man but their hands were forced when he travelled to Sydney International Airport.

    Senior police sources have said they were able to track down the alleged shooter after spending hours piecing together CCTV from the time of the shooting.

    Ledinh, 65, who fled Vietnam for Australia in the wake of the Communist conquest of South Vietnam in the 1970s, was gunned down on Tuesday, January 23 as he sat having a coffee at a cafe at Bankstown City Plaza.

    Despite the efforts of paramedics the father-of-five died at the scene.

    Police established a strike force and at 10am detectives arrested the man at Sydney International Airport as he boarded a plane to Bali.

  167. egg_

    I can just see them in remote communities, sitting in the red sand in front of a tv., spellbound by the scripted waffle now ascending.

    “Who’s sorry now”?

  168. Geriatric Mayfly

    Trumbull is wearing a spray consisting of but one bloom. Looks like an anemone, which is out of season. It should have wilted by now, given the environment, so I suspect it might be a product of Lucy’s recreational skills.

  169. Bruce in WA

    Rottnest.
    Two D9 Cats linked with anchor chain from a battleship.
    Start at one end, finish at the other.
    Rebuild it from scratch.
    It’s a sh!thole.

  170. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2635923, posted on February 13, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    Apparently US AG Jeff Sessions used the term “Anglo-American heritage” recently.

    As usual BJ, you miss the point, which was that he used that phrase to refer to law enforcement, as if police work is rightfully done by white folk. Which it was back when slavery was the norm, but why bring that up now? Oh yes, because he would prefer to return to those times.

    Actually m0nty, you missed the point. He was referring to to the Common Law. You know, the system of law under which Native Title exists.

    Like all SJWankers, you immediately saw racism. Those who hear the racist dog whistle are the actual racists.

  171. stackja

    C.L
    #2635913, posted on February 13, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    At Ace’s: What All British Sports Look Like to Anyone Who Isn’t British

    A friend from USA who visits Australia each year, believes the same cricket match he heard about last year is still continuing and will go on forever.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rottnest.
    Two D9 Cats linked with anchor chain from a battleship.
    Start at one end, finish at the other.
    Rebuild it from scratch.
    It’s a sh!thole.

    Well said. Overpriced sh!thole, to boot.

  173. Roger

    Dead man talking in parliament.

  174. Boambee John

    Incidentally, m0nty, thanks for providing the first of those SJWanker meltdowns I was looking forward to.

  175. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2635956, posted on February 13, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    IT, you should know the differences between cops and lawyers by now.

    Then perhaps IT can explain to you, as your knowledge is clearly lacking?

  176. egg_

    From Teh Graniad link above:

    7m ago
    14:34
    Because everything is totally fine, Barnaby Joyce gets the next #deathtodixer.

    He’s so muted, Labor MPs are yelling at him to “speak up”.

    Something-something-inland-rail-stumble-something-stumble-something-road-upgrade-stumble.

    He’s falling over his words. He can’t even bring himself to attack Labor back with any form of excitement.

    He mentions that Anthony Albanese wants to know why he hasn’t asked him any questions and points out that Labor is the opposition.

    “Not for long,” Albanese yells back.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Not for long,” Albanese yells back.

    Drop the True Thai hammer on the florid f$cker somebody please.

  178. The Barking Toad

    Barnababy is being hung out to dry

    Should have a medical moment soon and have to step down

    The longer he turns up to question time the worse it gets – needs to stop digging

  179. egg_

    Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull:

    While the allocation of certain staff has been delegated to the National Party, the enforcement of the PM’s statement of ministerial standards is the sole responsibility of the PM. So I ask – does the PM have complete confidence that the Deputy PM’s allocation of staffing positions meets the high standards expected of his ministers?”

    Turnbull answers this as a parent would explain why little Johnny gets to open his own presents on his birthday:

    The honourable member has not made any case to support the proposition that the staff movements he’s referring to were in breach of the ministerial code. The question of whether the staff member concerned was a partner is a question of fact. As I said in response to the member for Isaacs. The Deputy PM has set out the facts. Members can form their own conclusion about that but I’ve provided the description of partner and it is essentially a cohabitation, a marriage-like relationship, hence the term of marriage or de facto. So I think the circumstances are clear but the honourable member has not been able to establish a breach of the ministerial standards or alleged one. If he wishes to do so he obviously has the opportunity here.

  180. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I really don’t know why the libs let themselves be held up to the standards of the gender neutral sexless extreme mediocrity that the left idolise. I would tell them to piss off and mind their own business.

  181. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    monty is simply Badham with bigger tits.

    LOL ROFL

  182. Arky

    Rottnest.
    Two D9 Cats linked with anchor chain from a battleship.
    Start at one end, finish at the other.
    Rebuild it from scratch.
    It’s a sh!thole.

    ..
    Vic needs that treatment too.
    Stupid Eucalypts.

  183. egg_

    George Christensen’s local paper, The Daily Mercury, is now using social media speculation to ask whether their local MP could become the deputy prime minister.

    Fat chance?

  184. Shy Ted

    Been conducting some field research. If you’re going to pinch a woman on the bottom it’s best to engage her in conversation for a little while beforehand.

  185. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    A good lesson for any kids out there: A root can be very expensive.

  186. Dr Faustus

    The question of whether the staff member concerned was a partner is a question of fact. As I said in response to the member for Isaacs. The Deputy PM has set out the facts.

    Turnbull is carefully setting BJob out to dry.

  187. H B Bear

    If the election winning machine that is the Turnbull Coalition Team didn’t have a majority of one in the House of Reps they could have sent Baaanaby on a study tour to Antarctica for a few months to look at artificial insemination of penguins or something.

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    A good lesson for any kids out there: A root can be very expensive.

    Always remember kids, cash is king.

  189. The Barking Toad

    Fat chance?

    Didn’t wee Georgie have lapband surgery to unlard?

  190. The Barking Toad

    Idiot:

    You forgot the “s”

  191. Habib

    A good lesson for any kids out there: A root can be very expensive.
    Particularly if you’re a square.

  192. The Barking Toad

    The heat is getting hotter:

    Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce charged taxpayers to spend 50 nights in Canberra when Parliament was not sitting in the first nine months of 2017 – more than any other Turnbull government cabinet minister.

    Official expense records show Mr Joyce claimed $16,690 in travel allowance for out-of-session nights in the nation’s capital between January 1 and September 30, 2017. That is significantly more than top government figures such as Treasurer Scott Morrison, Finance Minister Mathias Cormann and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.
    Mr Joyce was acting Prime Minister for 10 of those 50 nights. Under the rules, Mr Joyce was entitled to claim $276 per night for official business as Deputy Prime Minister and $565 per night as acting Prime Minister.

    He also claimed for 62 sitting nights – meaning he spent a total of 112 days in Canberra, out of 272 days, in the period examined.

  193. pete m

    It is ALWAYS the cover up that gets you, not the deed.

  194. egg_

    Fairfax has just published this story:

    Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce charged taxpayers to spend 50 nights in Canberra when Parliament was not sitting in the first nine months of 2017 – more than any other Turnbull government cabinet minister.

    Official expense records show Mr Joyce claimed $16,690 in travel allowance for out-of-session nights in the nation’s capital between January 1 and September 30, 2017. That is significantly more than top government figures such as Treasurer Scott Morrison, Finance Minister Mathias Cormann and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop.

    Mr Joyce was acting Prime Minister for 10 of those 50 nights. Under the rules, Mr Joyce was entitled to claim $276 per night for official business as Deputy Prime Minister and $565 per night as acting Prime Minister.

  195. Lizzie;

    I truly am beginning to think that only when there is a political force willing to crush all opposition, as communists do, and nationalize some coal fired power, will the green lunacy end. For that is how communists operate.

    Yep.
    The first thing after the Revolution is the Purge.
    Every time.
    The street leaders of the Revolution are the first to go. Why? Because they are the ones who have self selected as being willing to fight against a government. They never think about the consequences of the Revolutionaries being the government.

  196. The Barking Toad

    From the same piece in the Molonglo Prvada re Barnababy camping in Canberra..

    Fairfax Media has examined the records of every member of the cabinet in the same time period.

    Fairfax are gunning for him

  197. egg_

    All from the Graniad live feed above.

  198. egg_

    Which one?

    The one in the asshat?

  199. The Barking Toad

    And then there’s this sleazy operator piling on…..
    A FORMER Senator has labelled Canberra’s Parliament House one of the most unhealthy workplaces in the country, citing the “amount of rooting” that goes on there.

    Wading into the scandal surrounding Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, ousted Labor star Sam Dastyari indicated he was not surprised that the Nationals Leader had been all but brought down by an affair with a staff member.

    “The reality is, the amount of rooting that goes on in a place like Canberra,” he told KIIS106.5’s Kyle & Jackie O this morning.

    Classy traitor

  200. cohenite

    Incorrect, nobody watches MASH.
    They have been repeating the same episode for the last 20 years and no-one has twigged onto it yet.

    Mawkish crap.

    The first 2 series of Mash were tough and funny; then that pissant alda with his liberal views took over.

    The mad General episode is also a classic.

  201. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Wading into the scandal surrounding Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, ousted Labor star Sam Dastyari indicated he was not surprised that the Nationals Leader had been all but brought down by an affair with a staff member.

    “The reality is, the amount of rooting that goes on in a place like Canberra,” he told KIIS106.5’s Kyle & Jackie O this morning.

    If anyone or anything was rooting that midget greaseball Dastyari i will puke my guts up. That is an act of sickness that can only be cured by hellfire.

  202. Mother Lode

    I am getting some confusing messages: Apparently the Anglo-American Alliance is an alliance between White Americans and White Americans.

  203. H B Bear

    The Green-Left Weekly Radio Hour (lunch time edition) formerly known as The World Today has some UN bozo criticizing Oxfam for its record of child sex exploitation in Haiti. That takes real chutzpah. It’s like FIFA attacking the IOC on probity and governance.

  204. C.L.

    All this crying over Barnaby’s career prospects, pfft. There is a large pay check waiting with Gina’s signature on it.

    True. He should just piss off and build a different life. I’m not sure what he’s trying to prove.

  205. C.L.

    M*A*S*H was set in the Vietnam War, of course.
    All film and TV wars for the past 40 years have been set in Vietnam.

  206. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Barnaby could go into business with Craig Thomson.

    Barney & Thommo’s Lawn Services.

  207. egg_

    some UN bozo criticizing Oxfam for its record of child sex exploitation in Haiti.

    Oxfam are real amateurs, compared to the UN?

  208. testpattern

    This is what happens when a brave, independent minded group of native title holders leave the Gov funded land council and try to pursue their own interests. Without money for representation and preparation you lose in the courts.

    ‘The Native Title Tribunal has dismissed traditional owners’ objections and allowed a resource company to explore on a large patch of land over which they hold native title…“The Kulyamba Aboriginal Corporation attached to their contentions a number of colour photographs, with labels such as ‘Carvings that date back before our time’, ‘Sense of adventure’ and ‘Bush food’,” she said. “However, the written material provides no indication of where these photographs were taken.’

    http://www.pilbaranews.com.au/?news%2Fmidwest-times%2Fexploration-allowed-ng-b88725922z

    I have a lot of time for this group and a few others like them. Govt funds the big land councils but not groups who want to be independent.

  209. JC

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2635993, posted on February 13, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Idiot:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9220358-3×2-700×467.jpg

    Barndoor so unhealthy looking. He’s the color of beetroot. Both the gals ought to be taking life insurance on him. I think that shade of redness is sometimes indicative of high pressure problems.

  210. The Barking Toad

    And now Richo piles on, again, in the Oz but he saves the best for last and unloads on Waffleworth..

    If Barnaby Joyce thinks the carefully crafted statement he issued today will be the end of the scandal sitting squarely on his shoulders, he is mistaken. The too-clever-by-half effort will only lead to more questions about his relationship with Vikki Campion. By seeking to distinguish the word “partner” from merely having a relationship with someone, only invites the intrusion into his private life and that of his family.

    The obvious question which Joyce himself has put on the table is when did the mistress become the partner. By seeking to say Campion was not his partner when she worked for Canavan and Drum all he has achieved is the continuation of his worst nightmare.

    Then he unloads in the final paragraphs:

    Our Prime Minister’s performance during this saga has emphasised his complete lack of political intelligence. To being just plain dumb on handling big issues he has added deaf and blind to his record to try to pretend that he was virtually the only person in the parliament not to know of Joyce’s affair. Malcolm Turnbull has no idea what the average punter is prepared to believe or accept. He therefore treats us all as complete and utter mugs.

    If he did see Joyce’s statement before it was released then he is at fault for believing that it could provide any respite from the onslaught of the Press Gallery and the Opposition. If he didn’t see the statement before his release then the Nationals have no regard for him. Either way he again fails yet another test of leadership.

    Can’t see Barnababy lasting much longer

  211. JC

    The link doesn’t appear to work from the copy&paste.
    It’s here.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9220358-3×2-700×467.jpg

    Also get a load of the gut.

  212. Top Ender

    MASH was awkwardly written predictable crap.

    The opening title scenes with medics looking on as being tender-hearted and sad would have been much better with a big dose of reality. As in: “Another damned lot of freeloaders.” Klinger would have lasted three minutes in a real army unit of the time.

    Get Smart was much more clever.

  213. calli

    M*A*S*H was set in the Vietnam War, of course.
    All film and TV wars for the past 40 years have been set in Vietnam.

    Sorry, C.L. It was Korea.

  214. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1542

    I have a lot of time for this group and a few others like them. Govt funds the big land councils but not groups who want to be independent.

    Government wants only groups that it can control. Independent groups might have independent thoughts.

    As long as “Firsts” stay under government control, the “BigMen” will ultimately do the government’s bidding, and receive their rewards. Bad luck for the little people.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Barndoor so unhealthy looking. He’s the color of beetroot. Both the gals ought to be taking life insurance on him. I think that shade of redness is sometimes indicative of high pressure problems.

    Not sperm build-up apparently.

  216. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I love Turnbull when he goes west of Parramatta.

    He looks like he has been plonked into the Amazon with a lost tribe.

  217. There is a downside to a GST.
    With a GST it is in the government’s interest to ensure that retail prices are as high as possible for non-discretionary items.
    e.g. power prices.

    Has anyone calculated the additional GST take from the booming electricity costs?

    (serious question)

  218. C.L.

    Sorry, C.L. It was Korea.

    No, Calli. The series had nothing to do with the Korean War.

  219. Boambee John

    calli

    It was set in Korea, but the theme was Vietnam.

  220. calli

    I must be going nuts. I was sure it was set in Korea.

  221. calli

    Ahhhh. Pick a card, any card. Nothing up my sleeve…

  222. Boambee John

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2636026, posted on February 13, 2018 at 3:51 pm
    I love Turnbull when he goes west of Parramatta.

    He looks like he has been plonked into the Amazon with a lost tribe.

    The only person to look less comfortable there was the “Real Julia”.

  223. H B Bear

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9220358-3×2-700×467.jpg

    Coupla winners right there. The only thing keeping the Waffleworth Coalition Team vaguely in the game is Peanut Head and R-G-R dregs on the other side of the chamber.

  224. The Barking Toad

    Mash – I always thought it was about the Korean war – regardless where it was filmed

  225. Delta A

    I must be going nuts. I was sure it was set in Korea.

    Me too, calli.

    According to wiki:

    … follows a team of doctors and support staff stationed at the “4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital” in Uijeongbu, South Korea during the Korean War.

  226. H B Bear

    The only time the Real Julia’s poll numbers improved was when she went overseas to an inconvenient time zone. Busing in mummy bloggers only gets you so far. Eventually the salami sandwich is gonna get you.

  227. Chris

    All film and TV wars for the past 40 years have been set in Vietnam.

    Including Star Wars, apparently.

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It’s like being on Catallaxy when I have work to do but ‘m scared of it.

    Oh noes. You too, Chris? 🙂

  229. jupes

    Either way he again fails yet another test of leadership.

    Also note that he has more advisers in the DPMC than there were public servants at federation. There are hundreds of the fuckers led by the arse clown Martin Parkinson.

    Are they too busy rooting each other to do their job to provide timely advice to Turnbull? How could he have signed the transfer of Joyce’s floozy? Did no one think that it might breach parliamentary standards and might, just might, bite him on the arse at some point?

    FMD what did we do to deserve this. The dumbest Prime Minister being advised by hundreds of clueless twerps. If we keep going like this, we’ll end up in huge debt, third world electricity, bollards in every city, rampant crime and totally useless police and defence force … oh wait …

  230. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    MASH was an allegory for Vietnam. This is basic stuff people.

  231. woolfe

    For those who enjoyed the Mike Duncan History of Rome Podcast series he has a new book out on Audible called The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic.

    Just downloaded it and may give it a go before I finish Napoleon the Great by Andrew Roberts.

  232. Diogenes

    According to wiki:

    … follows a team of doctors and support staff stationed at the “4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital” in Uijeongbu, South Korea during the Korean War.

    But read on

    As the show developed, the writing took on more of a moralistic tone. Richard Hooker, who wrote the book on which the television and film versions were based, noted that Hawkeye’s character was far more liberal in the show than on the page (in one of the MASH books, Hawkeye makes reference to “kicking the bejesus out of lefties just to stay in shape”). While the show is traditionally viewed as a comedy, many episodes were of a more serious tone. Airing on network primetime while the Vietnam War was still going on, the show was forced to walk the fine line of commenting on that war while at the same time not seeming to protest against it. For this reason, the show’s discourse, under the cover of comedy, often questioned, mocked, and grappled with America’s role in the Cold War
    ….
    The end of the Vietnam War in 1975 was a significant factor as to why storylines become less political in nature and more character driven. Several episodes also experimented with the sitcom format:

    .Many of the stories in the early seasons are based on tales told by real MASH surgeons who were interviewed by the production team. Like the movie, the series was as much an allegory about the Vietnam War (still in progress when the show began) as it was about the Korean War.[28]

  233. lotocoti

    The opening title scenes with medics looking on as being tender-hearted and sad would have been much better with a big dose of reality.

    Having seen a US Army training film from the Korean War on combat surgery, I’m not sure the punters would’ve been able to stomach vets and dentists performing heroic amputations.

  234. Leigh Lowe

    It was set in Korea, but the theme was Vietnam.

    They all look same to me.

  235. woolfe

    Jupes,
    Actually its The dumbest Prime Minister being advised by hundreds of Labor Party apparatchik’s within the civil service.

  236. Diogenes

    Having seen a US Army training film from the Korean War on combat surgery, I’m not sure the punters would’ve been able to stomach vets and dentists performing heroic amputations.

    I remember being shown some of the US Army First Aid films from the era as well. The “Sucking Chest Wound” had most of us loosing our lunches.

  237. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Australian Conservatives senator Cory Bernardi has been pretty frank on the Barnaby Joyce saga.

    He tells Sky News there are two separate strands.

    “Firstly, I will not pass any personal judgment someone’s marriage or the relationships that occur or affairs. This is unfortunately far too common in today’s society,” he says.

    “But I think there’s a reasonable expectation that two things happen in politics. One is the Australian people will not get screwed by their government and two, ministers will not screw their staff. I can’t put it any more bluntly than that.”

    He doesn’t support any ban but urges ministers to show restraint and responsibility and not have sexual relationships with their employees.

    Bernardi says the Joyce issue is damaging the National Party and body politic more generally.

    He says it’s not going to end well.

    “I don’t think him staying is going to be in the long-term interests of politics,” he says, and nods when asked explicitly if he thinks Joyce should quit.

  238. H B Bear

    Sloppy Joe should have sacked Parkinson the day after Abbott won the election. The Lieborals don’t deserve to ever form government. They are no good at it.

  239. egg_

    Kristina Keneally

    @KKeneally
    I’m advised that there will be a joint sitting of the NSW Parliament tomorrow (Wed) afternoon to fill the casual vacancy in the Senate.

    Has she been introduced to Barndoor?

  240. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #2636044, posted on February 13, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    c/- Mike Bowels

    How much longer ’til rootin’ time?

  241. How much longer ’til rootin’ time?

    What? Do you have 15 seconds to spare?

  242. Rebel with cause

    Greens admit that Tasmanians don’t care for their ‘Tarkine’ nonsense, rely on idiot lefties from Melbourne and Sydney to push campaign instead.

  243. lotocoti

    I remember being shown some …

    Even the non-smokers chained smoked through the one shown.

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