Monday Forum: February 12, 2018

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  1. egg_

    How much longer ’til rootin’ time?

    Mr Speaker – I have to go and unload…

  2. testpattern

    ‘rottnest’

    An Island in Denial

    ‘I sleep uneasily tonight in Western Australia’s premier tourist destination where − unknown to most visitors − hundreds of terrified Aboriginal prisoners from every part of the state suffered and died in unimaginably brutal squalor.’

    http://wadjemup.blogspot.com.au/

    WA’s gulag

    https://d1w7fb2mkkr3kw.cloudfront.net/assets/images/book/lrg/9781/8755/9781875560929.jpg

  3. H B Bear

    @KKeneally
    I’m advised that there will be a joint sitting of the NSW Parliament tomorrow (Wed) afternoon to fill the casual vacancy in the Senate.

    NSW Parliament doing what the voters wont. Lucky Bambi is used to being told what to do.

  4. calli

    I should have known better than to gently correct C.L.

    It’s not that type of blog.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    While the allocation of certain staff has been delegated to the National Party, the enforcement of the PM’s statement of ministerial standards is the sole responsibility of the PM. So I ask – does the PM have complete confidence that the Deputy PM’s allocation of staffing positions meets the high standards expected of his ministers?”

    What is fucking gold is that I think the “ministerial standards” in question were drafted by Abbott and Credlin. Furthermore, according to Credlin, one of the 54 Turncoats had fallen foul of the rules prior the coup and his sole reason for backing Trumble was revenge for not being able to have his girlfriend filing her nails in his office on the taxpayer dime.
    Trumble gave a wink and a nod to this particular individual and a few others that, when Abbott’s horrid Catholic puritanical regime came to an end, they could use taxpayer funds to root whoever they liked.
    Of course, he didn’t amend the ministerial guidelines because that might bell the cat.
    Karma is a beeeyatch.

  6. Carpe Jugulum

    Testes is going the full retard early I see

  7. Tom

    MASH was an allegory for Vietnam. This is basic stuff people.

    ‘Fraid so, Cats.

  8. Stimpson J. Cat

    MASH was an allegory

    Wasn’t it that TV show with the theme song that made you want to slash your wrists?

  9. egg_

    Testes is going the full retard early I see

    Back on the PULP?

  10. egg_

    Trumble gave a wink and a nod to this particular individual and a few others that, when Abbott’s horrid Catholic puritanical regime came to an end, they could use taxpayer funds to root whoever they liked.

    Abbott’s folly in thinking that a backwoods knuckle dragger would uphold Conservative Catholic values?

  11. The Barking Toad

    MASH

    Don’t care where it was filmed or what it was an allegory for

    Hot Lips Houlahan had great jugs – and the spread in Playboy displayed them magnificently

    Along with some modestly airbrushed blonde fuzz – would have been different in Hustler of course.

  12. cohenite

    ‘The Native Title Tribunal has dismissed traditional owners’ objections and allowed a resource company to explore on a large patch of land over which they hold native title…“

    Good. NT was always meant to be an inferior title. It shouldn’t exist at all.

  13. stackja

    Bogart movie 1953 was to called MASH.

  14. jupes

    Actually its The dumbest Prime Minister being advised by hundreds of Labor Party apparatchik’s within the civil service.

    The idiot even employed a fucking Green in his office. He is getting the advice he deserves.

    Then again, maybe not. I could give him an earful of advice that he really deserves and I won’t even charge him.

  15. Spider

    You can see the Journos sharpening their pencils ready to ask every LNP and Liars Party member.

    Do you think claiming the person who is carrying your child is not your partner fails the pub test.

    Hand Barnaby a spade ….

  16. egg_

    Labor is continuing its ‘drip drip’ attack against Barnaby Joyce, putting him under pressure in his new portfolio.

    Anthony Albanese has followed up his question time onslaught with this statement:

    Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce has refused to explain why the Federal Coalition Government has invested more than $1 billion less on Queensland infrastructure than it promised in its first four Budgets.

    Between 2014-15 and 2017-18, the Government announced $7.2 billion worth of funding commitments for roads and other infrastructure in Queensland.

    But Budget Outcome documents show the Government actually invested $6.1 billion.

    Today in Question Time I asked Mr Joyce to account for the real cut of $1 billion and explain how many jobs would have been created in Queensland if his Government had spent that money as promised.

    Mr Joyce refused to address the question. He is clearly not across the detail of Queensland infrastructure projects other than the proposed Inland Rail Link between Brisbane and Melbourne, which would pass through his NSW electorate but not connect to the Port of Brisbane.”

    ***end statement***

  17. H B Bear

    The only infrastructure Baaarnaby is across is his current train wreck. Clock is ticking I think. A few more days of this and he’ll be looking for the archive boxes and bin liners.

  18. H B Bear

    Anyone want to take a punt on what will happen to Waffleworth’s 2 point Newspoll bump as people forgot how bad he is over the summer break? Those green shoots didn’t even last a week. #worsethangillard

  19. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Abbott must be laughing.

  20. Baldrick

    Abbott must be laughing.

    And the Stolen Generation’s crying. Barnaby is taking all their news print.

  21. Do you think claiming the person who is carrying your child is not your partner fails the pub test.

    Is every girl knocked up after a one-nighter that man’s partner?

  22. egg_

    Anyone want to take a punt on what will happen to Waffleworth’s 2 point Newspoll bump as people forgot how bad he is over the summer break?

    Labor analysts were quoted on ABC TV Breakfast as saying it was due to the Economy picking up. Pffft!
    Gerry Harvey may have been celebrating, but not the proles.

  23. Zatara

    Artist Who Painted Obama’s Official Portrait Known For Painting Blacks Beheading Whites

    Can you imagine for a second if George W. Bush, or any other former president, decided on a painter who was famous for depicting white people killing black people to paint his official portrait.

    Which begs the question of who picked him and why.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Mr Joyce refused to address the question. He is clearly not across the detail of Queensland infrastructure projects other than the proposed Inland Rail Link between Brisbane and Melbourne, which would pass through his NSW electorate but not connect to the Port of Brisbane.”

    Too busy playing in the shunting yard with Vikki’s caboose.

  25. H B Bear

    Abbott must be laughing.

    He gets his old job back. Leader of the Opposition.

  26. egg_

    Abbott must be laughing.

    He gets his old job back. Leader of the Opposition.

    Yup, an improvement on his current position.
    Will Barndoor be in a position to offer Trumble a plum job with Gina?

  27. egg_

    Mr Joyce refused to address the question. He is clearly not across the detail of Queensland infrastructure projects other than the proposed Inland Rail Link between Brisbane and Melbourne, which would pass through his NSW electorate but not connect to the Port of Brisbane.”

    The embarrassment of being embarrassed by Albo.
    Does it get any worse?
    Albo becomes PM?

  28. Turnip

    Mr Toad…..can’t find the Loretta Switt playboy photos………
    please advise urgently!

  29. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    He gets his old job back. Leader of the Opposition.

    It’s the Liberal party. They will give i to Julia Bishop or Christopher Pyne.

  30. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Is every girl knocked up after a one-nighter that man’s partner?

    According to the Family Court? Yes.

  31. notafan

    Coming back late struth but are you on drugs?

    The article at First things was a detailed analysis of the thinkers that inspire the of the alt right movement and that is your, garbled, response?

    You actually need to refute with supporting evidence.

    Oh that’s right, you can’t.

    You think, once again that your mere opinion trumps all.

    It doesn’t.

    I suggest you try googling ‘spengler alt right’

    There will be no shortage of articles.

  32. egg_

    Is every girl knocked up after a one-nighter that man’s partner?

    According to the Family Court? Yes.

    Yokel Barndoor got caught in a honeytrap.

  33. egg_

    5m ago
    01:23
    Asked whether he thinks Barnaby Joyce should stand down, Hinch says “yes, I think I should”

    WTF?
    Freudian slip?

  34. calli

    MASH was an allegory for Vietnam. This is basic stuff people.

    ‘Fraid so, Cats.

    Then why did he say it was set in Vietnam?

    You guys close ranks faster than the girls in the playground! 😃

  35. Delta A

    The only infrastructure Baaarnaby is across is his current train wreck.

    The bottom line is he is not doing the job for which we are paying him handsomely. He is sucking all oxygen from the entire parliament. He’s now a gossip-spawning liability and no-one will take him seriously again.

    He. Must. Go!

  36. Chris

    Tsetse – Rotto, an unimaginary brutal gulag? How awful.
    Compare and contrast cf Fremantle Prison in the same period.

    A relative of mine was one of those convicts. Maybe you will know the surname Collard.

  37. Stimpson J. Cat

    You guys close ranks faster than the girls in the playground! 😃

    More like drunken girls dancing in a circle around their handbags Calli.

  38. notafan

    Can I point out re the partner thing that in addition to attending the mid winter ball Natalie Joyce went with Barnaby on an overseas trip at the end of June 2017.

    There are photos of them both at London/Westminster bridge paying tribute to the two Australian women killed by muslim terrorists.

    About time the thing was put to bed.

  39. calli

    I reckon it’s a secret drill they do when no one’s looking.

  40. Nick

    From the SMH, Brits left some 50 years ago and strangely, no mention of Islam at all.

    In Malaysia, a person can be sent to jail for up to 20 years for being gay thanks to a colonial-era law. And the country’s outsize heterosexual antipathy toward gay people has sparked reactions that run the gamut from hilarious to horrifying.

  41. Top Ender

    Interesting….

    Why the Real-Life Hawkeye Pierce Hated ‘M*A*S*H’

    …viewers came to see the show as a kind of allegory for the Vietnam War.

    Hornberger couldn’t have disagreed more. He hated the anti-war sentiments ascribed to him by the public. In 1983 he told a reporter for Newsweek that while the show was accurate in its physical portrayal of a MASH unit, it “tramples on my memories.” And his son, William Hornberger, told the New York Times that his father hadn’t intended to write an anti-war book. “My father was a political conservative, and he did not like the liberal tendencies that Alan Alda portrayed Hawkeye Pierce as having,” he explained.

  42. Senile Old Guy

    MASH the movie is based on a book written in 1968.

  43. Leigh Lowe

    It’s the Liberal party. They will give i to Julia Bishop or Christopher Pyne.

    No.
    Pyne is hoping for a comfortable minority so he can spend more time with his boys.

  44. Bruce of Newcastle

    Speaking of rootrats, I’m amused by the latest from Weiner.

    EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Weiner Kept Laptops Open Around Sex Worker He Was Seeing Regularly for Nearly Two Years

    A sex worker who alleges to have had a relationship with Anthony Weiner from 2014-2016 has given the Gateway Pundit exclusive information about their encounters, including the fact that he would often keep his two laptops open while she was at the apartment that he shared with his wife Huma Abedin.

    The 30-year-old California woman has asked that her identity be protected so that her current clients would not be spooked. She told GWP that she would meet Weiner, 53, at his apartment while Abedin was away and their son was at day care or preschool, which he went to roughly three days a week.

    She explained that they had struck up a relationship after she had responded to a few of his tweets and he began to direct message her over Twitter. According to the woman, the duo first met in person between Christmas and New Years Eve in 2014. The relationship abruptly ended in 2016 after his sexual correspondence with a 15-year-old girl was exposed.

    Exchanges between the pair were explicit, including him announcing his plans to order “Chinese food and a Thai stripper” when asked about his holiday plans prior to their first meeting.

    “Sometimes, he’d come across as a reasonably mature man. Other times, he was a petty bitch whose wife and in-laws hated him. I met him at his apartment in NY a few times when Huma was either out/traveling for business and his kid was at day care. He said he was separated at the time (which wasn’t really true) and that he hadn’t contacted other women since, with the exception of me,” the woman told the Gateway Pundit.

    “During our last get-together, I asked him if he was excited for Hillary Clinton and Huma. Anthony said he hoped Hillary wins the election so his wife would be away more often and that the White House wouldn’t bother to invite him to major events so he could f-ck whoever he wanted,” the woman told the Gateway Pundit.

    A man who knows what he wants. I hope Ant Weiner’s enjoying his cell.

  45. egg_

    20m ago
    06:38
    We have made it through another day. Some of us better than others, but we have all made it through.

    Will we be able to say the same tomorrow?

    Well, that, as they say, is another day.

    Labor is not finished with Barnaby Joyce just yet, and given the deputy prime minister’s rather lacklustre performance in question time today, he knows it.

  46. Myrddin Seren

    5m ago
    01:23
    Asked whether he thinks Barnaby Joyce should stand down, Hinch says “yes, I think I should

    God Bless you, Hinch’s Second Liver.

    Pleased to see the soulful remnants of the previous owner, repelled at being inserted in to a moral vacuum, massive hypocrite and liver-punisher like Hinch are fighting back and attempting to assert control.

    Well done, Hinch’s Second Liver. Keep it up – we look forward to you taking Hinch over on the floor of the Senate.

  47. EvilElvis

    Mr Speaker – I have to go and unload…

    Is that what they mean by recording in hands hard?

  48. Rae

    MASH

    I’ve never been a fan, haven’t watched mere than 2 episodes. Just another poorly written American sit-com imo. Liked Alan Alda in a couple of movies. Don’t care for any of the other actors in M*A*S*H.

  49. C.L.

    AFL clears way for man to smash women:

    The AFL has decided to allow transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey to play state league football in Victoria, clearing the way for the 28-year-old to compete against the state’s best female footballers in 2018.

    Mouncey played in the ACT women’s league after beginning her gender transition in 2015 and applied to be part of the AFLW draft in 2017.

    The AFL ruled against her playing in AFLW this season but made the decision for her to play in the state league this season.

    More to come

    Fairfax.

  50. C.L.

    Calli, you can correct me – gently or otherwise – any time.

  51. EvilElvis

    So Barnaby goes, so goes Wentworth? The government? Are we up for an election? Has Barnaby gifted us Labor before their time?

  52. H B Bear

    Time to get bouncey with Mouncey.

  53. egg_

    So Barnaby goes, so goes Wentworth? The government? Are we up for an election? Has Barnaby gifted us Labor before their time?

    Sit on the back bench with his old mate Abbott666?
    Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

  54. Rae

    About time the thing was put to bed.

    Probably not a good cliché, notafan. The thing has already been put to bed, and certainly not just on one night*.

    [*Not one of your best one liners, Dover, when the facts acknowledged by the parties say otherwise.]

  55. jupes

    AFL clears way for man to smash women:

    Let’s hope they have an AWFL game scheduled for White Ribbon Day.

  56. calli

    He’s going to flatten those women.

    I wonder when the first lawsuit will be filed.

  57. Gab

    From the SMH, Brits left some 50 years ago and strangely, no mention of Islam at all.

    Even worse. It was 61 years ago and the muslim country did nothing to repeal that law in all that time. Gee, I wonder why the SMH never mentioned that? *smirk*

  58. OldOzzie

    GRAHAM RICHARDSON – Joyce’s tactics invite intrusion as Turnbull fails leadership test

    If Barnaby Joyce thinks the carefully crafted statement he issued today will be the end of the scandal sitting squarely on his shoulders, he is mistaken. The too-clever-by-half effort will only lead to more questions about his relationship with Vikki Campion. By seeking to distinguish the word “partner” from merely having a relationship with someone, only invites the intrusion into his private life and that of his family.

    The obvious question which Joyce himself has put on the table is when did the mistress become the partner. By seeking to say Campion was not his partner when she worked for Canavan and Drum all he has achieved is the continuation of his worst nightmare.

    Frankly it is not any rule covering ministerial standards being breached that millions of Australians find offensive. It is the ease with which very well-paid jobs being paid for by taxpayers like themselves can be created.

    It seems to me that Joyce was appealing as much to his National Party colleagues as he was to the public. Imagine an ordinary person on benefits turning up to Centrelink and trying to tell a story that the pregnant girlfriend/lover/mistress was not a partner. Anyone trying on that line would be laughed at and derided. For someone desperate for all this pain to end, Joyce has now made it inevitable for journalists to try to find out how many nights he spent with Campion in Canberra or on the road as against the number of nights he spent at the family home in Tamworth.

    Much of the leaking against their leader is coming from the National Party. The long history of politicians drowning in the scandal swamp would suggest that the odds are stacked against Joyce’s survival. Enough Nationals are well aware of this and spending time in their electorates last weekend made the leader’s position even more precarious.

    The National Party see themselves, and are seen by those who vote for them, as the guardians of good, old-fashioned Christian values. Up until now scandals of a sexual nature were almost always occurring with Liberals or Laborites. Now those in the Nationals who have ambition, or hold a grievance, or are morally outraged, have let their feelings be known both privately and publicly.

    Ken O’Dowd, hardly a household name, ventured forth on to Gladstone radio to concede that this matter was an embarrassment. May I digress at this point to inform you that Damian Drum actually broke his silence and also ventured forth on ABC radio with Rafael Epstein. I listened to that eight-minute train wreck of an interview and immediately understood why he doesn’t normally give them.


    Our Prime Minister’s performance during this saga has emphasised his complete lack of political intelligence. To being just plain dumb on handling big issues he has added deaf and blind to his record to try to pretend that he was virtually the only person in the parliament not to know of Joyce’s affair. Malcolm Turnbull has no idea what the average punter is prepared to believe or accept. He therefore treats us all as complete and utter mugs.

    If he did see Joyce’s statement before it was released then he is at fault for believing that it could provide any respite from the onslaught of the Press Gallery and the Opposition. If he didn’t see the statement before his release then the Nationals have no regard for him. Either way he again fails yet another test of leadership.

  59. Tom

    The Canberra press scum led by Channel Nein ABC deserter Chris Uhlmann is demanding Bananaby’s head — not on any moral grounds, but to reassert the press gallery’s sense of entitlement as political kingmakers. On those grounds alone, Bananaby should tell the lot of them to ram a giant donkey’s dick up them. They couldn’t give a fuck about the public interest.

  60. Roger

    This is pretty depressing and familiar:

    “President Donald Trump’s budget proposal for 2018 was extraordinary, calling for a 31 percent cut to the EPA, a 29 percent cut to the State Department, a 20 percent cut to both the Department of Labor and the Department of Agriculture, and the elimination of funding for scores of things the federal government should never have been funding—many of them things Republicans have been promising to cut for more than 20 years, like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Endowment for the Arts, and the National Endowment for the Humanities. But Republicans in Congress last week ignored the president, allowing only modest spending cuts to agencies, and, unbelievably, refusing to cut defund the CPB, the NEA, and the NEH.”

    RTWT

  61. egg_

    He’s going to flatten those women.

    Is that why they’re going the “wymmises are more genetically prone to injury” hyperbowl on Aunty?

  62. testpattern

    The Milingimbi commercial fishing industry that ended with Cyclone Amelia

    THE STORY OF THE RIVER SONG 1960 – 1975.

    ‘In 1965 Yolŋu Skipper Alfred Guŋupuny Garawirrtja and Yuwati Djambarrpuyŋu went to Brisbane to pick up the new fishing boat RIVER SONG. The captain they had paid to help them learn the ropes abandoned ship on Thursday Island, leaving the young men to sail her home alone.’

    https://drbentleyjames.wordpress.com/2017/06/15/the-milingimbi-fishing-industry-the-story-of-the-river-song-1960-1975/

  63. Rae

    Nationals in talks about asking Barnaby Joyce to resign

    Forget about a job with Gina. He’s unlikely to even keep the ‘gina he’s impregnated. A return to a lifetime of poring over Sheep Accounts awaits Barnaby Joyce. If he can find anyone willing to employ him to do theirs.

  64. OldOzzie

    JUDITH SLOAN – We’d be better off on policy without Barnaby Joyce

    I personally don’t care how Barnaby Joyce conducts his private life. I do care if there has been public money used to make his life, and the life of his new partner, more convenient and remunerative.

    But the thing that sticks in my craw the most is that the Nationals leader is a dud when it comes to policy matters.

    The consummate retail politician — a reputation now tarnished — he may be, but when it comes to spending public money on, or directing regulatory favours in the direction of, rural and regional Australia, the Deputy PM sees no limits. He completely lives up to the label of agrarian socialist who is only too happy to spend other people’s money on his pet projects.

    Let me run through some of the appalling policy positions he has pushed, to the detriment of the national interest and ordinary Australians:

    • He supported re-regulation of the sugar industry in Queensland even though several hundreds of millions of dollars of public money was used to compensate farmers for the deregulation of the industry;

    • He endorsed the building of the dubious, vastly expensive inland railway even though there has been insufficient scrutiny and cost-benefit analysis of the project;

    • He equivocated about the building of a mine in his electorate while professing support for the resources industry more generally;

    • He insisted the pesticides/agricultural chemicals regulatory agency be shifted from Canberra to his electorate even though the case was not established — an instance of pure pork-barrelling;

    • The Murray-Darling Basin Plan is on the point of collapse but Joyce has been missing in action;

    • He has been silent about alleged theft of irrigated water in the northern parts of the basin; and

    • He takes credit for rising agricultural prices when answering questions in parliament, which is both witless and bizarre.

    It is passing strange that Joyce’s party could be called the National Party because its politicians behave in ways that support sectional interests while damaging the nation as a whole. Joyce wouldn’t understand the concept of the national interest if it hit him in the face. Senator Matt Canavan is twice as smart as Joyce and has a reasonable grip on what constitutes good policy that serves the national interest.

    If Joyce were not to survive the current scandal, Australia would be better off in policy terms.

  65. egg_

    GRAHAM RICHARDSON – Joyce’s tactics invite intrusion as Turnbull fails leadership test

    If the ALP keeps this sh1t up all week, Joe Public will recognise it for the beat up that it is.

  66. egg_

    The sock indulges in wishful thinking again.

  67. OldOzzie

    Roger
    #2636135, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    This is pretty depressing and familiar:

    Agree was depressing

    But on the Positive Side for Trump

    Feds Collect Record Taxes in First Month Under Tax Cut; Run Surplus in January

    The federal government this January ran a surplus while collecting record total tax revenues for that month of the year, according to the Monthly Treasury Statement released today.

    January was the first month under the new tax law that President Donald Trump signed in December.

    During January, the Treasury collected approximately $361,038,000,000 in total tax revenues and spent a total of approximately $311,802,000,000 to run a surplus of approximately $49,236,000,000.

  68. calli

    C.L.
    #2636123, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:05 pm
    Calli, you can correct me – gently or otherwise – any time.

    Meh. What’s a flensing between friends? ⚔️

  69. Steve trickler.

    A chick with a dick…..a bloke, allowed to wreak havoc against the female body playing footy. Is he on hormone therapy?

  70. Rae

    The Canberra press scum led by Channel Nein ABC deserter Chris Uhlmann is demanding Bananaby’s head — not on any moral grounds, but to reassert the press gallery’s sense of entitlement as political kingmakers. On those grounds alone, Bananaby should tell the lot of them to ram a giant donkey’s dick up them. They couldn’t give a fuck about the public interest.

    That’s BS, Tom. And you know it is. You should read what Judith Sloan has said about it. She thinks he should go too. And she is absolutely correct.

  71. calli

    That was a rhetorical question, just in case the fellas all want to go “figure of speechy”again. 😀

  72. Heard a snippet on the radio about Barnaby wanting to put out a Christmas card, last year, featuring him with family. His soon to be ex-wife said it was not appropriate. The guy has no sense of shame if card story is true.

    I think this is a case of for the good of the party / Coaltion he should step down as leader and go to the back bench. It is the cover up and job shuffling that is the issue not the affair itself. He is damaged goods and Labour and Press going to keep digging. I note the Government have declined FOI requests to do with travel movements. If she moved out of his office around April 2017 and there are records of Government funded travel together after then the whole not a ” partner” thing will be shown to be a joke. I consider it a joke anyway and Kenny last night on Q&A summed it up well when saying Barnaby was making staff deployment / promotion decisions involving somebody he was clearly involved with.

    Time to move on and work for Gina so he can afford the two families.

  73. OldOzzie

    Vikki Campion’s pay still on public purse

    Barnaby Joyce’s pregnant partner and former staffer Vikki Campion has been drawing a government pay packet over the past two months, with her employment formally expected to cease later this week.

    Ms Campion’s redundancy payout was approved last December following Malcolm Turnbull’s ministerial reshuffle and after she was moved between three Nationals offices in the space of six months.

    The Australian understands the 32-year-old took stress leave last October, about two months after taking a senior adviser’s role in the office of then Nationals chief whip Damian Drum, which paid over $100,000. She remained on stress leave until her employment was terminated.

    The former Daily Telegraph journalist’s moves between the offices of Mr Joyce, Resources Minister Matt Canavan and Mr Drum, followed the departure of Mr Joyce’s former chief of staff Diana Hallam last year.

    Ms Hallam, understood to be close to Mr Joyce’s wife, Natalie, and viewed internally as a competent chief of staff, quit her job last year around the time Ms Campion moved to Senator Canavan’s office in April.

    The government was forced to manage rumours of a relationship between Mr Joyce and Ms Campion throughout last year, and Ms Hallam was understood to have left due to growing dysfunction in Mr Joyce’s office.

    A spokeswoman for Mr Joyce, who became the Infrastructure and Transport Minister in December after removing Darren Chester from the job, said yesterday that Ms Hallam had moved to work with the Inland Rail project.

    Applications for the department job closed on April 3 last year, with a panel, including three deputy secretary-level members, making recommendations to secretary Mike Mrdak.

    “As a result of that process, a number of positions were filled over ensuing months (the merit list established remains open for up to 12 months from date of ­advertising),” Mr Joyce’s spokeswoman said. “To date, six positions have been filled, one of which was filled by Diana Hallam (who was an applicant in the round), who was appointed to an SES 1 position on 21 August 2017.”

    Mr Joyce, as leader of the ­Nationals, had responsibility for authorising Ms Campion to claim jobs in the offices of Senator Canavan and Mr Drum, co-ordinating social media for Nationals MPs, including himself, and working with Nationals head office.

    Ministerial staffing pay scales published by the Finance Department show that senior advisers can earn up to $191,000. Ms Campion, who fell pregnant to Mr Joyce last year, was understood to have received a pay increase to shift jobs.

    Mr Drum told The Australian that, after his promotion to the frontbench in December, Ms Campion chose not to continue with him.

    “She decided to not seek continued employment as a way of doing the right thing for the taxpayer,” he said.

    Once a staff member’s employment is terminated with an MP, it is standard practice for them to continue to draw a taxpayer-­funded salary for a further eight weeks.

    Malcolm Turnbull’s office signed off on Ms Campion’s movements, but the Prime Minister yesterday pushed back, saying Mr Joyce and the Nationals took ­responsibility for Nationals staff appointments.

    Mr Drum, speaking on ABC radio yesterday, hit back at criticisms of the internal appointments involving Ms Campion. He said his understanding when she joined his office was that “the relationship had finished” and the matter was “irrelevant” to him.

    The Victorian MP, who was promoted to be Mr Joyce’s assistant minister, said there was “no new” job created for Ms Campion, who was effectively managing the party’s social media strategy.

  74. notafan

    I’m inclined to encourage Barnaby to hang in there.

    If for other reason than because Sam Dastyari said he should resign

  75. egg_

    OldOzzie
    #2636140, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Running a repeat?

  76. egg_

    I’m inclined to encourage Barnaby to hang in there.

    +1

    ALP cads bullying our cad – get effed.

  77. Steve trickler.

    If you are trying to get Barnaby out of your head.

    Here is some escapism.



  78. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    What did Barnaby think was going to happen?

    How did he imagine this whole situation playing out?

    The penis is a very stupid organ.

  79. jupes

    Is that why they’re going the “wymmises are more genetically prone to injury” hyperbowl on Aunty?

    According to The Australian today, women are five times more likely to get a knee injury than a man while conducting a similar activity. This is because they have wider hips.

    No doubt they will be a lot more prone to injury once Mouncey gets amongst them.

  80. OldOzzie

    DENNIS SHANAHAN – Saws at the ready with Barnaby Joyce stranded on a limb

    Barnaby Joyce is dangerously out on a limb.

    What’s more, the bough is bending and Malcolm Turnbull, Liberal MPs, Nationals and the Labor Party are all sharpening their saws.

    The Deputy Prime Minister is facing intensifying pressure to resign from cabinet and go to the backbench because of his handling of the transfer of his then staffer Vikki Campion, who will have his baby in April, to work in other Nationals’ offices.

    The Nationals are stunned and confused at how the story is unravelling for the Nationals leader, Liberals are angry and telling their country cousins that Joyce has to go, respected former Nationals leader John Anderson has called for a resolution, and the Prime Minister — “mate and friend” of Joyce on the night of the New England by-election victory — has completely distanced himself from the whole issue.

    The ALP is giving the Coalition a master class in political strategy and parliamentary tactics, refusing to make personal comments but making Joyce’s judgment and behaviour the issue.

    By blindsiding him in question time with portfolio questions — and not giving Joyce the opportunity to use his prepared answer, which sat unused on his frontbench seat — Labor provoked Joyce into errors and bombast.

    That only detracted further from his image and left Turnbull further embarrassed when he vowed he had confidence in his deputy and he planned to have him as acting prime minister next week.

    Labor didn’t over-reach and left the Nationals leader hanging, but while Labor has exploited the issue, it was not of Labor’s creation.

    Joyce didn’t act when he had the chance to take control of the issue before it was revealed last week. His first television interview had a mixed and confused message and he still hasn’t openly addressed the issue of the taxpayer funds involved in the staff transfers.

    He is facing growing Coalition anger and isolation.

    The mishandling of the affair, and the entrenching of the perception that there has been a conflict of interest, a misuse of public funds, and a denial of reality are hurting the government and the Nationals.

    Turnbull’s optimistic return to the parliamentary year after a one-point rise in the two-party-preferred support for the Coalition in the latest Newspoll is turning sour, as once again the government starts a year in a fumbling fashion while Bill Shorten deflects his own political problems.

    Faced with the prospect of being dragged into a messy political farce, the Prime Minister ensured he was prepared in question time yesterday and essentially cut Joyce adrift while defending his own office.

    Turnbull, and then Treasurer Scott Morrison, declared the Nationals and “the leader of the Nationals” were the masters of their own destiny when it came to staff appointments and transfers — the key public-interest area of whether there was a misuse of public funds.

    Long gone was the shirt-matching matey behaviour at the New England by-election victory in December. It had been replaced with a cool detachment and outright blame shifting.

    Turnbull didn’t want to be caught in a “travel rorts” style trap that cost John Howard three ministers and his chief of staff in 1997, a year after he won office, because of cover-ups and shifting responsibility.

    Turnbull limited admissions to the role of his office in signing off administrative arrangements regarding Campion but determined by the Nationals. Unfortunately for Turnbull, his parliamentary cauterisation was hampered by his office’s briefing that Campion was not Joyce’s “partner” because he was still married.

    The faux justification of being unable to employ your wife but being able to hire your mistress and observe the ministerial code will play out to Turnbull’s detriment.

    But it is Joyce facing the greater challenge and risk as his scrambled personal life and family devastation bleeds into the political drama that damages him and the government more and more each day.

    There comes a point when a leader’s position is untenable, no matter what the cause or justice of it, and Joyce is now close to that point.

  81. Roger

    The optics, as they say, of Joyce being acting PM next week are not good.

  82. egg_

    Sock press release bonanza!

  83. [*Not one of your best one liners, Dover, when the facts acknowledged by the parties say otherwise.]

    I wasn’t alleging that Joyce slept with Campion only once. I was attending to the principle behind the judgment being disputed.

  84. egg_

    Turnbull’s optimistic return to the parliamentary year after a one-point rise in the two-party-preferred support for the Coalition in the latest Newspoll is turning sour

    Four fifths of fvck all?

  85. Top Ender

    A magistrate in Burnie has dismissed an application for a temporary halt on the publication of Jacqui Lambie’s autobiography, Rebel With A Cause.

    Ms Lambie’s former chief of staff Rob Messenger had sought the injunction because he said publishing the book could prejudice legal action over an alleged breach of contract.

    However magistrate Duncan Fairley said Mr Messenger had not substantiated his claims and an injunction could cause disproportionate financial losses to Ms Lambie and publisher Allen & Unwin.

    Link

  86. H B Bear

    Sounds like Baaaarnaby has imperilled Damian Dumb’s career now too by highlighting his existence.

  87. H B Bear

    Four fifths of fvck all?

    Margin of error stuff. J’ismists are so stupid this wouldn’t mean anything to them.

  88. Myrddin Seren

    Beetroot-gate.

    Peta on Skynews.

    Discussion and rolling ticker says Mexican Nats ( Victoria ) are making rumbling noises about insurrection.

    A further ticker says a Nat Source – presumably a Bananaby Loyalist – says that Nats pushing for Bananby to stand down over his ex-mat relations with Vikki should be careful – ‘people in glasshouses should not throw stones’.

    Let us hope that this descends in to a total civil war fought with ‘who is screwing which staffer’.

    Snicker, snicker.

  89. Seems Sam Newman is considering running for Melbourne Mayor.

    Lefty heads would be exploding if he was actually successful.

    Go Sam ! If the photographer guy with crazy hair can be Mayor of Geelong why not Sam for Melbourne ?

  90. C.L.

    The optics, as they say, of Joyce being acting PM next week are not good.

    That’s putting it mildly.

  91. Rae

    I wasn’t alleging that Joyce slept with Campion only once.

    Sure you were.

  92. C.L.

    Senior Nationals MPs to ask Joyce to step down

    Senior Nationals MPs have met and are expected to ask Barnaby Joyce to stand down as leader.

  93. egg_

    Margin of error stuff.

    Yup 3% polling noise IIRC.

  94. H B Bear

    Australia’s beetroot Berlusconi will make a great acting PM. Democracy in this country is now a bigger joke than Italy. Think about that.

  95. Rae

    Australia’s beetroot Berlusconi will make a great acting PM. Democracy in this country is now a bigger joke than Italy. Think about that.

    Bunga bunga.

  96. cohenite

    The former fiancé of BJ’s knocked up lady is showing a bit of class.

  97. egg_

    ‘people in glasshouses should not throw stones’.

    Yup, plenty of skeletons that Barn will be aware of, I’m sure.

  98. JC

    C.L.
    #2636172, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    Senior Nationals MPs to ask Joyce to step down

    Senior Nationals MPs have met and are expected to ask Barnaby Joyce to stand down as leader.

    So another example of a double standard. The Dastyari takes money from the Chinese, Tony Burka bonking is own advisor, Shorten legovers the GG’s daughter and ends the marriage with his wife at the footy, but Barndoor should step down.

    Wow

  99. Baldrick

    Community Service announcement :

    Infidel Tiger
    #2632772, posted on February 10, 2018 at 12:29 am
    Let’s make a deal everyone..: no one acknowledge or mention the weird troll ever again no matter what. Understood?
    Otherwise I will withdraw my funding and Sinc will close this xunt of a shithole.

  100. testpattern

    Barnaby will love this. He just loves bad ideas.

    ‘This hilarious and heart-warming comedy is the story of successful Sydney lawyer, Lauren, and her fiancé Ned. Engaged and in love, they have just 10 days to find Lauren’s mother who has gone AWOL somewhere in the Northern Territory, reunite her parents and pull off their dream Top End Wedding.’

    https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/sa/media-centre/news/2017/10-25-top-end-wedding-miranda-tapsell

  101. Arky

    For the price that red faced idiot is paying, that woman better be able to turn herself into a pretzel, simultaneously suck and blow, pulsate on three different settings and project a LASER show out of her titties.

  102. Steve trickler.

    H B Bear
    #2636174, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    Australia’s beetroot Berlusconi will make a great acting PM. Democracy in this country is now a bigger joke than Italy. Think about that.

    —–

    LMAO.

    I do no think beetroot had the coin to pull off what Berlusconi did with his sex life.

  103. egg_

    According to The Australian today, women are five times more likely to get a knee injury than a man while conducting a similar activity. This is because they have wider hips.

    Winning!
    More trannies on the pitch whilst the wymminses are on the bench.

  104. OneWorldGovernment

    Myrddin Seren
    #2636168, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    Beetroot-gate.

    Peta on Skynews.

    Discussion and rolling ticker says Mexican Nats ( Victoria ) are making rumbling noises about insurrection.

    A further ticker says a Nat Source – presumably a Bananaby Loyalist – says that Nats pushing for Bananby to stand down over his ex-mat relations with Vikki should be careful – ‘people in glasshouses should not throw stones’.

    Let us hope that this descends in to a total civil war fought with ‘who is screwing which staffer’.

    Snicker, snicker.

    I hope the “National Party” is wiped out.

    Go Australian Conservatives.
    Start yelling FFS Party.
    Even PHON would be better.

  105. JC,
    I guess you must have missed the bits in those two sentences which indicated it is the Nationals, his own party,who are asking him to step down. It would be a “double standard” if it was Labour as the three examples you gave refer to them.

    I know how picky you can be about things like this. No need to thank me.

  106. Rae

    So another example of a double standard. The Dastyari takes money from the Chinese, Tony Burka bonking is own advisor, Shorten legovers the GG’s daughter and ends the marriage with his wife at the footy, but Barndoor should step down.

    Wow

    The circumstances are not the same as any of those whom you reference. So, why are you defending him?

    He should go. And not just to the back bench. The Government would do well to realize that because he will be a target whilever he remains in the parliament. It will do them no good to allow him to stay. He is now far too tainted.

  107. H B Bear

    A Tranny Tasman football league would probably rate OK. It’s modern sideshow alley stuff. Just ask the guys at Teh Snowcone Variety Hour although they have lost their Persian Dwarf.

  108. Arky

    Chris Uhlmann is demanding Bananaby’s head —

    ..
    What’s he want it for?
    A night light?

  109. Myrddin Seren

    What’s he want it for?
    A night light?

    Scarecrow

  110. H B Bear

    NK cheer squad at the Winter Olympics; creepy and sad in manic phase:

    Looks like an ALPBC staff meeting before they all retire to the water-cooler.

  111. Rae

    What’s he want it for?
    A night light?

    Scarecrow

    In a field of beetroot.

  112. OldOzzie

    Sharri Markson Daily Telegraph tonight on Andrew Bolt makes the point – 2 jobs were created for Vikki Campion and there was no advertising of those Jobs

  113. Delta A

    Oh dear.
    Did Artist Give Obama an Extra Finger?

    Oh my goodness! He did.

    He really did!

  114. Myrddin Seren

    BoltA leaves an interesting post-script in his interview with Sharri Markson over Beetroot-gate.

    Are there any other Bananaby squeezes out there – subtext ‘with interesting taxpayer funded travel’ ?

    Based on the #MeToo juggernaut, expect more Beetroot eggrolls to appear. Hopefully with their fully-funded expense claims in tow.

  115. egg_

    Chris Uhlmann is demanding Bananaby’s head —

    J’ism beat up/off.

  116. dopey

    Barnaby will get a job on Landline.

  117. Sure you were.

    Let’s go to the video tape:

    Do you think claiming the person who is carrying your child is not your partner fails the pub test.

    Is every girl knocked up after a one-nighter that man’s partner?

    Pretty obvious I wasn’t, and, further, that I was attending to the principle in dispute.

  118. JC

    JC,
    I guess you must have missed the bits in those two sentences which indicated it is the Nationals, his own party,who are asking him to step down. blockquote>

    Nope, didn’t miss it at all, Rooster. If his party didn’t feel the pressure from the outside it would likely not be considered. I guess because that wasn’t spelled out in my comment, you’re unable to formulate that yourself. (No wonder you listen to talk back).

    How else would barndoor be asked to step down if it didn’t come from his own party?

    In your other comment, you mention Newman.

    Let me ask you though, wouldn’t Sam Newman be a little on the manly side for you? I would have thought he scare you that you’d go more for the American figure skater type we were discussing yesterday.
    How’s Smithie by the way?

  119. JC

    bad formatting in the last Rooster comment

    JC,
    I guess you must have missed the bits in those two sentences which indicated it is the Nationals, his own party,who are asking him to step down.

    Nope, didn’t miss it at all, Rooster. If his party didn’t feel the pressure from the outside it would likely not be considered. I guess because that wasn’t spelled out in my comment, you’re unable to formulate that yourself. (No wonder you listen to talk back).

    How else would barndoor be asked to step down if it didn’t come from his own party?

    In your other comment, you mention Newman.

    Let me ask you though, wouldn’t Sam Newman be a little on the manly side for you? I would have thought he scare you that you’d go more for the American figure skater type we were discussing yesterday.
    How’s Smithie by the way?

  120. egg_

    Must be an elasticated sock – really trying to stretch it – too bad if Turnbull & Barndoor tough it out for the week.
    When’s Trumble going to unleash the distraction squirrel?

  121. H B Bear

    Could there be a whole field of little beetroot babies spread across New England?

    This is why I never go to the country.

  122. thefrolickingmole

    Ok so its not the same quality as throwing them out of helicopters, but his aim is true..

    Philippines: Rodrigo Duterte orders soldiers to shoot female rebels ‘in the vagina’
    President branded a misogynist and macho-facist after saying mutilating women fighters would make them “useless”

  123. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2636178, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    Oh dear.
    Did Artist Give Obama an Extra Finger?

    Whoever drew that is no Michelangelo.

  124. stackja

    Ho Ledinh: Murder charge over Bankstown lawyer’s shooting
    Emma Partridge, Sally Rawsthorne, The Daily Telegraph
    30 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    DETECTIVES have charged a man over the alleged shooting of Bankstown lawyer Ho Ledinh, charging Arthur Kelekolio with murder after they earlier arrested him as he boarded a flight to Bali at Sydney International Airport.

    The 38-year-old was charged with one count of murder tonight at Mascot police station by officers from Strike Force Eugene, which was established in the wake of Mr Ledinh’s alleged shooting death.

    Homicide detectives remain at a complex next to Hammondville Public school and earlier questioned neighbours.

    Detectives are still talking to two people inside the unit this evening.

    Detectives arrived at the Walder Road block about 3.15pm in two cars and door knocked several units before going inside one.

    One detective was seen leaving the units wearing blue gloves and holding a white piece of paper.

  125. thefrolickingmole

    Though we probably should be careful with Durates threat, might shoot off Bonkabys ballbag, or head.

  126. H B Bear

    Another grrrl power senior woman turns on the waterworks when things get a bit rough. This time embattled She-Ra, Princess of Power and sometimes guest of BHP,

    ‘It’s been a very emotional ride’: Scaffidi cries, apologises at Perth penalty hearing

  127. Rae

    Oh dear.
    Did Artist Give Obama an Extra Finger?

    Oh my goodness. No, he didn’t. It’s just a somewhat poorly drawn left hand. Had he been given a third nipple, that might have been worth getting all gushy about.

  128. Turnip

    NK cheer squad at the Winter Olympics; creepy and sad in manic phase:

    The Norks are just a more organised Barmy Army with better choreography and less beer onboard.

    Both would be annoying to be stuck next to though the norks are easier to understand late in the day

  129. C.L.

    OK, I had to look up “flensing.”
    Look, you were technically correct, Calli. I should have in-joke-tagged my comment.
    But yes, the major criticism of M*A*S*H was that its luvvie producers (and, notoriously, Alan Alda) wasted a promising idea in an anachronistic, morally incongruous, didactic and dumb campaign to apply the supposed lessons of the Vietnam War to the Korean War (which was one of the more legally and ethically uncomplicated applications of righteous force in the modern history of conflict).

  130. Rae

    Pretty obvious I wasn’t, and, further, that I was attending to the principle in dispute.

    Pretty obvious you were. The rest of what you said is just disingenuous.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    OldOzzie

    #2636194, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    Sharri Markson Daily Telegraph tonight on Andrew Bolt makes the point – 2 jobs were created for Vikki Campion and there was no advertising of those Jobs

    As she points out, there is a serious overlap between the jerbs and the gestation of Beetroot Minor.
    But they weren’t “partners” according to the legalistic interpretation provided by Lord Malcolm Denning QC.

  132. stackja

    C.L.
    #2636170, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:53 pm
    The optics, as they say, of Joyce being acting PM next week are not good.

    That’s putting it mildly.

    And the optics of any ALP as PM?

  133. Rae

    When’s Trumble going to unleash the distraction squirrel?

    He tried today, with the “Sorry” 10 year anniversary bs. But it didn’t work. The Opposition got a little excited during the second question response, but then got straight back to the real business at hand.

  134. Pretty obvious you were. The rest of what you said is just disingenuous.

    No, and, no.

  135. max

    Leigh Sales hammering at Warren Truss just now.

    Should Barnaby resign ?

    Yes, Barnaby’s marriage is broken.

    So is Leigh’s. Should she resign ‘in the interests of’ the ABC ?

    FM. Get real.

  136. zyconoclast

    Infidel Tiger
    #2635756, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:02 am
    Bourke was rooting one of his staff while he was married. They only spent $200,000+ on first class travel together.

    No one from the LNP went them. Now we know why.

    JC
    #2635757, posted on February 13, 2018 at 10:04 am
    Naaa. They didn’t go after Tony Burka because they’re gutless spivs, scared of their own shadow.

    My memory says it was to save Pyne (yes, him again) from scrutiny.

    Tony Burke expenses: Pyne, Shorten defend overseas travel bill

    Mr Pyne, the manager of government business, said none of the stories of Mr Burke’s spending suggested he had broken the rules on the use of parliamentary entitlements.

    “All the stories about Tony Burke, so far none of them have been in breach of the rules,” Mr Pyne told the Nine network’s Today program.

    Shortly after the Barcelona trip, Mr Burke promoted Ms Laris from adviser to chief of staff. A spokesman for Mr Burke said the Barcelona trip was the only one where both had flown first class.

    Mr Burke separated from his wife, Cathy Bresnan-Burke, in 2012 and his relationship with Ms Laris became public two years later. He is now able to claim travel costs for Ms Laris and her two children from two previous relationships, as well as for his own three children.

    Pressed on Mr Burke’s Barcelona trip, Mr Abbott said: “These are matters that will obviously be looked at by the root and branch reform. And that’s what I want. I want root and branch reform.”

    Mr Pyne is also under pressure for claiming $7785 to fly his own family business-class return from Adelaide to Canberra in 2013 to see him being sworn in after the Coalition won government.


    Christopher Pyne defends Tony Burke over media ‘pot shots’ after report on Europe trip with adviser

    Christopher Pyne has leapt to the defence of his political opponent Tony Burke, saying a $50,000 six-day trip to Europe he took as a minister was completely legitimate.

    Mr Burke’s trip to Italy and Spain to attend a food security conference with an adviser, who is now his partner, cost nearly $50,000.

    Mr Burke is already under fire for charging taxpayers to attend a Robbie Williams concert. He has agreed to repay the $90 travel bill. However, he is standing by a $12,000 trip for his family to join him in Uluru in 2012, which is allowed under the family reunion rule.

    Mr Burke is already under fire for charging taxpayers to attend a Robbie Williams concert. He has agreed to repay the $90 travel bill. However, he is standing by a $12,000 trip for his family to join him in Uluru in 2012, which is allowed under the family reunion rule.

    “Well that’s within the rules, that’s the usual procedure; somebody rings up to book them in, they book them in business class,” he said.

    Mr Abbott refused to criticise Mr Burke, who led the political attack against former Speaker Bronwyn Bishop over her extravagant use of expenses, for a third day in a row.

  137. C.L.

    Whoever drew that is no Michelangelo.

    I had to laugh at The Guardian art critic’s review of both paintings, by the way.
    Jonathan Jones hates the presidential picture because – get this – people in the future might think that Obama was “remote” and “distant” (despite “great gifts of communication and empathy”).

    His painting is too rational, like a cold marble statue in a mausoleum. It will not tell future ages what made Obama special.

    In actual fact, it sounds like he has utterly nailed Obama the man.

    As for the Michelle portrait … it is “a modern-day Mona Lisa.”

  138. Rae

    And the optics of any ALP as PM?

    What optics, Viper? It’s irrelevant, unless an election makes it otherwise.

  139. egg_

    Tony Burke expenses: Pyne, Shorten defend overseas travel bill

    Skeletons on both sides.

  140. C.L.

    I’ve noticed several times (most recently on PM just now) that journalists routinely ask various of the grievance world’s dramatis personae … Where Were You On Sorry Day?

    Apparently it’s the new Kennedy Assassination.

  141. Rae

    Pretty obvious you were. The rest of what you said is just disingenuous.

    No, and, no.

    Sure. Notwithstanding evidence to the contrary you’re hard to convince. I’ll leave it at that.

  142. Delta A

    It’s just a somewhat poorly drawn left hand. Had he been given a third nipple, that might have been worth getting all gushy about.

    Poorly drawn indeed!

    I’m not sure which is more bizarre: a third nipple, or a thumb that reaches right up to the fingernail of the index finger.

  143. Roger

    Whoever drew that is no Michelangelo.

    Modern art is crap.

    There, I said it.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Tony Burke expenses: Pyne, Shorten defend overseas travel bill

    Bathhouse photos?

  145. Leigh Lowe

    I’ve noticed several times (most recently on PM just now) that journalists routinely ask various of the grievance world’s dramatis personae … Where Were You On Sorry Day?

    Answer: “Trying to run the fucking country. Next.”

  146. OneWorldGovernment

    C.L.
    #2636224, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:43 pm

    Whoever drew that is no Michelangelo.

    I had to laugh at The Guardian art critic’s review of both paintings, by the way.
    Jonathan Jones hates the presidential picture because – get this – people in the future might think that Obama was “remote” and “distant” (despite “great gifts of communication and empathy”).

    His painting is too rational, like a cold marble statue in a mausoleum. It will not tell future ages what made Obama special.

    In actual fact, it sounds like he has utterly nailed Obama the man.

    As for the Michelle portrait … it is “a modern-day Mona Lisa.”

    I thought the best bit of “The Lightbringer’s” portrait is that his feet are entangled in the weeds.

    Ben Shapiro found the model used for the Mooches portrait.

  147. Infidel Tiger

    Dover we don’t engage with that thing any more. It’s a waste of your time.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    OldOzzie

    #2636217, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    Two Party Preferred: 13 February 2018
    Labor54% Coalition46%

    Tick, tock.
    Is that # 27?

  149. Gab

    Where Were You On Sorry Day?

    I was at work, dutifully paying taxes to support “activisits”. I remeber it quite cleary as I hadn’t been interested nor heard any of the leftist hawking and screeching about the day. So I turned to my hulking MALE kiwi boss (damn I miss working with a male boss), in answer to his query as to my thoughts on “sorry day”? Genuinely ignorant of the fake great day, I asked “so which victim group is moaning about what now?” He laughed.

  150. calli

    C.L., the flensers are crossed above the bar. Surprised you missed them. ⚔️

    MASH was fun for the first season or two, but degerated fast. And it hasn’t been helped by endless repeats.

    As for its allegorical style, the series is a poor substitute for the movie, which has a few interesting references. My favourite is the vignette of the actors posed as Da Vinci’s Last Supper.

  151. OldOzzie

    Leigh Lowe
    #2636236, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:56 pm
    OldOzzie

    #2636217, posted on February 13, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    Two Party Preferred: 13 February 2018
    Labor54% Coalition46%

    Tick, tock.
    Is that # 27?

    Unfortunately No – 30 News Polls – but coming up fats and after the current debacles – Turdbull will be dropping

  152. Gab

    Dover, ignore the dumb troll. It’s not here for conversation, just annoyance. And human skin suits.

  153. Boambee John

    Roger
    #2636135, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    This is pretty depressing and familiar:

    “President Donald Trump’s budget proposal for 2018 was extraordinary, calling for a 31 percent cut to the EPA, a 29 percent cut to the State Department, a 20 percent cut to both the Department of Labor and the Department of Agriculture, and the elimination of funding for scores of things the federal government should never have been funding—many of them things Republicans have been promising to cut for more than 20 years, like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the National Endowment for the Arts, and the National Endowment for the Humanities. But Republicans in Congress last week ignored the president, allowing only modest spending cuts to agencies, and, unbelievably, refusing to cut defund the CPB, the NEA, and the NEH.”

    Roger

    Open to correction, but my limited understanding is that the Executive is not obliged to actually spend all money in a budget.

  154. littledozer

    If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there’d be a shortage of sand.” – Milton Friedman

    130 billion on closing the gap over 8 years and they want to bring a form of ATSIC back FMD

  155. Geriatric Mayfly

    Oh dear.
    Did Artist Give Obama an Extra Finger?

    Obambi’s provenance has always been a mystery, but for the cartoonist to imply he’s Tasmanian is a bit of a stretch.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Interesting discussion on a 4 hour train ride vs 1 hour plane ride. London Amsterdam route just starting up.

    JC – The guy hilariously says one of the reason TGVs are good is because of the 2 hours of security at airports.

    One ISIS flag covered rock anywhere on the 500 km of track and you have minced Poms.

    Oddly he forgets to mention the security issue with trains when there’s a movie on the flicks right now all about just such a thing.

  157. Delta A

    Dover we don’t engage with that thing any more. It’s a waste of your time.

    Oops! My bad, too.

    But at first glance it looks like LL and I would hate to miss any of his posts.

  158. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m inclined to encourage Barnaby to hang in there.
    +1
    ALP cads bullying our cad – get effed.

    I tend to agree. Hairy doesn’t; he thinks the jobs for the girls aspect just too grossly misbehaving.
    Hang in there Barnaby; I don’t like giving in to media panics and Labor sleaze mongering when look at them….

    Only upside to him going is the possible challenge to Turnbull.
    What a load of old cobblers it has all become.

  159. OldOzzie

    Oxfam has brought down shame on its good name – EXPRESS COMMENT

    NEWS about Oxfam seems to be getting worse by the minute. First we read about the absolutely appalling behaviour of its staff in Haiti, including its country director Roland van Hauwermeiren, over the use of prostitutes in the aftermath of a devastating earthquake. Then it is alleged that Oxfam tried to cover this up.

    Oxfam has been accused of sexual misconduct

    And now it seems that similar allegations have emerged about his staff’s behaviour when van Hauwermeiren was in charge in Chad.

    It is impossible to overstate the disgust every decent person will feel on hearing this. For a start the countries involved were in the most dire situation when Oxfam sent its staff in and the fact that aid workers (aid workers!) thought to take advantage of their most vulnerable inhabitants at such a time almost defies belief.

    Second, Oxfam has an awful lot of supporters who will have been donating money in the belief that they were helping the world’s most underprivileged people: how are they going to feel when they hear how leading lights at the charity have been behaving?

    International Development Secretary Penny Mordaunt has threatened to cut off funding from Oxfam if it cannot account for its behaviour. Good!

    Oxfam has always been a blatantly political organisation, going far beyond its remit to help the unfortunate, and to that we can now add charges of gross hypocrisy and an indifference to the wellbeing of the very people it was supposed to be helping.

    This from the people who are never slow to lecture the rest of us. What a terrible state of affairs this is.

  160. Rae

    But at first glance it looks like LL and I would hate to miss any of his posts.

    So you have said before.

  161. MsDolittle

    Barnaby should do the right thing and fall on his penis.

  162. calli

    Michelle Obama’s portrait is much more valuable than the Mona Lisa.

    It’s so much bigger, for a start.

  163. OldOzzie

    Down Under sees ‘huge’ upside of life after Brexit – EXPRESS COMMENT

    GOOD sense and good cheer from Australia’s high commissioner to the UK, Alexander Downer, who has spoken about the benefits of Britain leaving the customs union after Brexit. He said that Australia had itself experienced the “huge advantages of unilateral trade liberalisation”.

    He also discussed how Australia wanted to “build back” its trade with the UK and warned Britain that: “If you remain in the customs union you would have no control over an independent trade policy. In fact, you would have no control over trade policy at all.”

    The issue of the customs union is a defining one. Staying in guarantees tariff-free trade with EU countries but leaving it guarantees our freedom to reach new trade agreements with the rest of the world.

    But the truth is that unless Brussels is determined to be eternally obstructive there is no reason why Britain and the EU can’t reach a mutually beneficial agreement on their trading terms. This would be advantageous not just to the two main parties but also to the global economy – another of High Commissioner Downer’s sensible and positive points.

    For months now it has often seemed as though there is only Britain and the stonewalling EU in this endless discussion about how Brexit will proceed. It is refreshing to hear from a significant and knowledgeable figure from beyond this over-heated arena who can cast a new perspective on Brexit. His remarks also serve to remind us that for most of the world the EU is not the main event.

  164. Roger

    Open to correction, but my limited understanding is that the Executive is not obliged to actually spend all money in a budget.

    Sure, BJ, some categories of expenditure are discretionary, but the fact remains: Republicans are favouring business as usual over Trump’s proposed reforms to expenditure.

  165. Mark A

    Don’t know what happened, I used to be able to watch and listen to Bolt before, but lately he annoys me no end.
    Got to the stage that I can’t stand the man.
    Anyone else had the same experience or it’s just me getting old and grumpy?

  166. Rae

    Only upside to him going is the possible challenge to Turnbull.

    There will be no challenge to Turnbull as a result of Joyce going to the back bench or going altogether. Any new Nats leader, and DPM, will be accepted within the Coalition to ensure as far as possible that the Government continues. The only thing that will bring them undone is if a motion of No Confidence is passed in the House, or maybe a money bill is defeated in the Senate. Neither seems likely right now.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    Yesterday I saw a metaphor for the plight of modern Australia.
    I had to travel across town to take my dog Spot (not his real name) over to Port to his favourite vet.
    As a novelty, a few blokes transport passengers to and from the Salmonella Line cruise ships by cyclo.
    I saw an Asian woman being peddled around by a midfle aged Aussie bloke.
    Halfway across the intersection the cyclo gave up when the chain popped of the sprockets.
    The cyclo was emblazoned “Proudly Made in Australia by XYZ Specialty Cycles.”
    Says it all.

  168. Nick

    Ms Doolittle! You’re alive !

  169. OneWorldGovernment

    The stock market is great again. At least for today.

    U.S. stocks moved sharply higher Monday following the worst week for stocks in two years. The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 410 points, or 1.7 percent. The broader S&P 500 climbed by around 1.4 percent and the Nasdaq Composite got a 1.56 percent lift.

    Building on Friday’s gains, the S&P saw its best two performance in 18 months, according to Bloomberg.

    Monday’s gains were spread widely through the market with 10 of the 11 S&P sectors up. The energy sector saw the best performance of the day, boosted by rising energy prices.

    With Monday’s gains, stocks are closing in on positive territory for the year. After stocks moved explosively higher in January, stocks stumbled in February and gave up more than all the gain in January. Now stocks are down about 0.35 percent since the start of the year.

    U.S. government bond prices edged down Monday. The yield on the 10-year Treasury was 2.858 percent on Monday, compared with 2.829 on Friday. Bond yields rise as prices fall.

    Investor attention is focused on the question of inflation. With labor market tightening, January saw better job gains and higher wages than expected. That led some investors to expect inflation may rise faster than expected, forcing the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates more than expected. The U.S. consumer-price index will be released January and may reveal the extent the tighter jobs market is creating inflation.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/12/stocks-soar-as-rebound-pushes-dow-500-points-higher/

  170. Nick

    Michelle Obama’s portrait is much more valuable than the Mona Lisa.

    It reminds me of the remake of the old master’s painting that the Spanish parishioner ruined.

  171. stackja

    Many here like to be scrolled by. Why do they bother? One seems just cranky.

  172. Myrddin Seren

    Yesterday I saw a metaphor for the plight of modern Australia.

    He had a cyclo ?! Luxury !

    The future of the tributary province of Veneztralia will be carrying the Han colonial rulers in sedan chairs – old school.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    But at first glance it looks like LL and I would hate to miss any of his posts.

    Sigh!
    How do I get an avatar thingy?

  174. calli

    Gravatar, Leigh.

    Just make sure to switch it to private to hide personal stuff like your email address.

  175. Nick

    Yes, that’s the one, Calli.

  176. Rae

    Many here like to be scrolled by. Why do they bother? One seems just cranky.

    Are you one of those many, Viper? Have you read Coleridge? Would you prefer I call you Cain or Abel? Are you actually a lawyer?

    One should not be cranky, Viper. One should just accept things as they are.

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just make sure to switch it to private to hide personal stuff like your email address.

    Don’t use your everyday email address.

    I was surprised one day when someone who’d emailed me complained that their phone kept on autocompleting with the name Bruce of Newcastle. I told the person to use a different email address then went off and rebuilt my gravatar from scratch with a completely new email address.

    I hadn’t had the gravatar account set to private because of the photos I keep there. Maybe the security breach is fixed by setting to private. But maybe not.

    Also do not use your own name in your gravatar account name even if set to private as there’s a partial way around the privacy setting. I reported this to Sinc who reported it to Jacques who reported it to WordPress who have done nothing.

    Aside from all that gravatars are great!

  178. stackja

    Old O – Sam D very funny!

  179. Boambee John

    m0nty didn’t stay long. Was it something we said?

  180. JC

    Bruce

    What’s your take on the Aussie banks at the moment. There are some 13 investigations going on simultaneously to nail them. Profitability worries?

  181. Rae

    Bruce, as a digital native I have no difficulty with any of that. But I do not see the need for a Gravatar.

  182. Declining to make a same sex wedding cake is not discriminatory: A recent decision by a California Superior Court Judge holds that a bakery cannot be required by discrimination law to make a same sex wedding cake, where the owner has a religious reason for declining to do so. In Department of Fair Employment and Housing v Cathy’s Creations Inc (Cal Sup Ct, Kern Cty; BCV-17-102855; Lampe J, 5 Feb 2018) Judge Lampe refused an injunction against Cathy Miller, proprietor of Tastries Bakery, which would have required her to create a wedding cake for the same sex wedding of Mireya and Eileen Rodriguez-Del Rio. The basis for the decision was the free speech clause of the First Amendment to the US Constitution, the judge holding that creating a wedding cake was a constitutionally protected form of “free speech”.

    The decision is possibly subject to appeal, and it is not, of course, binding on Australian courts. But it provides an excellent example, in my view, of how the case can be made for protecting the free speech and religious freedom rights of small businesses involved in the artistic creation of items designed to celebrate same sex weddings.

    Take note, Bernardi.

  183. MsDolittle

    I reported this to Sinc who reported it to Jacques who reported it to WordPress who have done nothing.

    Grog porn.

  184. stackja

    BON my gravatar just goes to old account. Fun!

  185. Rae

    m0nty didn’t stay long. Was it something we said?

    I think he got tired of the same old rubbish that you keep on at him about BJ.

    “The good BJ” You’re not Hugh Grant by any chance?

  186. Tintarella di Luna

    Boozy nights, lots of sex, and everyone boasting how good they are: Inside the Canberra’s ‘strange, weird’ work culture – laid bare by Barnaby Joyce’s staffer affair

    The poisonous pygmy never knows when to shut it does he? He went for a lot less — what? oh that’s right in Dastardly Ethics 101 treason is less than fornication on the totem pole of transgression.

  187. Leigh Lowe

    For an ex-accountant, Bananaby is having a lot of trouble deducting 9 months from April 2018 and making it add up.

  188. Robber Baron

    By my arithmetic Bill Shorten has now accrued 57 consecutive winning Newspolls. This has got to be a record. Yet all he can muster is 27% for preferred PM. Despite being loathed he or any drovers dog will lead labor to victory.

  189. Top Ender

    Canada.

    Increasingly the home of loons.

    Former Canadian Defense Minister claims the Illuminati is REAL and has technology to reverse climate change but wants to keep it secret to help the petroleum industry

    Paul Hellyer, who served as Canadian Minister of Defense from 1963 to 1967, made his claims on the Lazarus Effect podcast

    Hellyer claims the Illuminati is a real entity that runs the world

    He said that the elite of the world possess the technology to reverse climate change but are suppressing it
    Hellyer also talked about alien life on the podcast, stating it is more advanced than humanity

    Link

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    Michelle Obama’s portrait is much more valuable than the Mona Lisa.
    It’s so much bigger, for a start.

    Just you wait! There will come the day when it is inside a granite fortress, behind bullet proof glass with a thousand octopoid arms extended, all brandishing cameras.

  191. Leigh Lowe

    The stock market is great again. At least for today.

    U.S. stocks moved sharply higher Monday following the worst week for stocks in two years. The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 410 points, or 1.7 percent. The broader S&P 500 climbed by around 1.4 percent and the Nasdaq Composite got a 1.56 percent lift.

    More to the point, it wasn’t all over the place like a politician’s dick.
    Rose steadily in the first hour, held up for most of the day, a bit of a kick up with about an hour to go then a slight tail down.
    No wild swings.
    Let us see what the next few days bring.

  192. Boambee John

    Seems to be a lot of static on the site tonight. Must be thunderstorms around.

  193. Delta A

    Leigh Lowe
    #2636282, posted on February 13, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Hmm… no.

  194. Leigh Lowe

    Michelle Obama’s portrait is much more valuable than the Mona Lisa.
    It’s so much bigger, for a start.

    Well, this is more bigger

  195. Myrddin Seren

    Obama – April 2016

    “I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it.”

    “I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department or the FBI, not just in this case but in any case. Period. Nobody gets treated differently when it comes to the Justice Department because nobody is above the law.”

    Susan Rice – last day in the White House

    Rice sent the email at 12:15 p.m. on Jan. 20, 2017, her final day in office. In the message, she memorialized a Jan. 5 Oval Office meeting she attended with President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

    The topic was the ongoing investigation into possible Trump campaign collusion. According to press reports, Comey briefed Obama that day on the unverified Steele dossier.

    Interesting message to send yourself for your various folders. ‘Sent’, ‘Obama meetings re Trump’ etc etc

  196. cohenite

    Don’t know what happened, I used to be able to watch and listen to Bolt before, but lately he annoys me no end.

    He defaults to sanctimonious but is one of the best we’ve got; which doesn’t say a lot.

  197. zyconoclast

    George Christensen’s local paper, The Daily Mercury, is now using social media speculation to ask whether their local MP could become the deputy prime minister.

    Fat chance?

    He went for a cheapo foreign bariatric surgery.
    On $200k/year he should be able to afford new “skinny” clothes.

  198. Muddy

    A powerful investigative look at data-based discrimination–and how technology affects civil and human rights and economic equity

    The State of Indiana denies one million applications for healthcare, foodstamps and cash benefits in three years–because a new computer system interprets any mistake as “failure to cooperate.” In Los Angeles, an algorithm calculates the comparative vulnerability of tens of thousands of homeless people in order to prioritize them for an inadequate pool of housing resources. In Pittsburgh, a child welfare agency uses a statistical model to try to predict which children might be future victims of abuse or neglect.

    Since the dawn of the digital age, decision-making in finance, employment, politics, health and human services has undergone revolutionary change. Today, automated systems–rather than humans–control which neighborhoods get policed, which families attain needed resources, and who is investigated for fraud. While we all live under this new regime of data, the most invasive and punitive systems are aimed at the poor.

    In Automating Inequality, Virginia Eubanks systematically investigates the impacts of data mining, policy algorithms, and predictive risk models on poor and working-class people in America. The book is full of heart-wrenching and eye-opening stories, from a woman in Indiana whose benefits are literally cut off as she lays dying to a family in Pennsylvania in daily fear of losing their daughter because they fit a certain statistical profile.

    The U.S. has always used its most cutting-edge science and technology to contain, investigate, discipline and punish the destitute. Like the county poorhouse and scientific charity before them, digital tracking and automated decision-making hide poverty from the middle-class public and give the nation the ethical distance it needs to make inhumane choices: which families get food and which starve, who has housing and who remains homeless, and which families are broken up by the state. In the process, they weaken democracy and betray our most cherished national values.

    This deeply researched and passionate book could not be more timely.

  199. cohenite

    What a creep de niro is; he’s in the middle east complaining about fossil fuels; what a dickhead:

    https://www.allenwest.com/2018/02/12/de-niro-shows-middle-east-things-immediately-go-south-opens-mouth/

  200. Bruce of Newcastle

    What’s your take on the Aussie banks at the moment. There are some 13 investigations going on simultaneously to nail them. Profitability worries?

    JC – The numbers put up for CBA liability weren’t large. A couple billion max. I looked it up some weeks ago, can’t recall the exact number reported. CBA are the ones in the most angst at the moment. Our legal system is different to the US, so none of those crazy punitive damages handed out by 12 Marxist jurors.

    That’s not to say that profits will grow much. But who cares when the yield is approaching 10% before tax?

    The issue as with all banks is bad loans. The sour loans on their books are not rising, indeed CBA’s fell some more this half iirc.

    Compare their maybe 0.5% bad loan rate to Italian banks with 10 or 20% and you wonder what the ECB is smoking. And what APRA is smoking.

    When the crash comes the bank shareprices will collapse by contagion. I picked up some bank shares at PEs of 5 and 6 at the last bottom. They’re presently at 12-14 so you have 50% downside if Wall Street goes over a cliff. Also they tend to cut dividends on such a panic, but at the height of the GFC I recall ANZ cut only 25%.

    They’re not perfect but they still beat most investments around. If Wall Street collapses like the pundits fear it won’t matter what the fundamentals are like though.

    CBA’s recent first half results are here. They go ex dividend tomorrow so that’s a theoretical $2.85 fall at the starting whistle.

    Current yields before tax on last sale price today (Oz residents only):
    CBA 8.0%
    ANZ 8.2%
    NAB 9.8%
    WBC 8.9%

  201. Atoms for Peace

    If Captain Risky stood up to the plate, I reckon he could be the new leader of the nats.

  202. zyconoclast

    Idiot:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9220358-3×2-700×467.jpg

    Matching shirts. Obviously part of the Trumble Coalition Team.

  203. Rae

    IT, it’s very nice of you to try to protect me from the continuous inferences of sock puppetry. But there are those here who will persist with the delusion no matter what edict you tried to impose upon them. That has been quite evident this evening so far. I have to tell you that I am well able to contend with whatever comes my way and I am not bothered in the slightest by the fascination of a few with the ghost of a past commenter.

  204. egg_

    One seems just cranky.

    Thought it would get Barn’s scalp today?
    Sad.

  205. vr

    Hi JC.

    You see this? Seems out of place in this day and age.

  206. egg_

    If Captain Risky stood up to the plate, I reckon he could be the new leader of the nats.

    Didn’t the (no longer so) fat c#nt cross the floor?

  207. Leigh Lowe

    BoN.
    I make NAB a pre-tax dividend yield of …
    2 dividends @ $0.99 = $1.98 on a share price of $28.79.
    A yield of a bit under 7%.
    Are you talking dividend yield or EPS?

  208. notafan

    Now Karl Stefanovic is jumping on Barnaby.

    Watch out msm.

    The man on the Clapham bus is starting to sympathize with the BJ.

    The other allegations seem to have fallen flat.

    Oh dear.

  209. zyconoclast

    A chick with a dick…..a bloke, allowed to wreak havoc against the female body playing footy. Is he on hormone therapy?

    Now that he has been given approval to play, he will be back on the testosterone big time!

  210. Bruce of Newcastle

    Leigh – Your numbers are after tax. You need to gross up the franking credits to get the before tax number. So 100x($1.98/28.79)/0.7 = 9.82%

    You have to be careful with franking credits because some companies with large OS share register or OS operations may not be fully franked, like BHP or Rio. But the domestic banks all have enough franking credits from their corporate tax to give out the full 30%.

  211. egg_

    The man on the Clapham bus is starting to sympathize with the BJ.

    Yup, from previous, a sustained attack will make Barn look like a victim and garner sympathy.

  212. Caveman

    NAB have never recovered from the forex loss back in the early 2000’s.

  213. Bruce of Newcastle

    Also if you live OS you don’t get the franking credits (except NZ iirc, although you may have to have the NZSX listed shares).

  214. nemkat

    The problem with Barnaby Joyce, as Tony Windsor memorably said on Election Night 2010, is the man’s a fool.
    It’s gotta be obvious that Labor have a smoking gun re Vikki Campion’s peripatetic recent employment history, and they’ll keep asking questions until Ministers are nailed for misleading Parliament, and forced to resign, or one of his own drops a bucket on him.
    Being a fool without personal insight, Joyce will blame everyone but himself.

    That may come in handy for Labor when Shanghai Sam calls to tell Joyce that maybe he’s not necessarily finished as the Member for New England, there’s plenty of room on the CrossBench with Katter, Wilkie, Sharkie, and GetUp McGowan…

  215. But they weren’t “partners” according to the legalistic interpretation provided by Lord Malcolm Denning QC.

    Time to retire the ambiguous word “partner” as a description of relationships and leave it to the world of business and contracts.
    Marriage. Husband. Wife. Defacto. Boyfriend. Girlfriend. All terms with one sensible meaning.

  216. Leigh Lowe

    Ah. OK Bruce.
    I call the impact of gross up, calculate tax at recipient rate and recoupment of franking credits as after tax and the raw dividend as before tax.

  217. egg_

    Socky is dreaming again.
    Zzzzzzzzzzz….

  218. Nick

    Watching the Olympics. The name of one skater, Semen Eilistratov.

  219. C.L.

    Now Karl Stefanovic is jumping on Barnaby.

    You must be joking.

  220. C.L.

    What a creep de niro is; he’s in the middle east complaining about fossil fuels; what a dickhead:

    Bob is not very bright. Never has been.

  221. C.L.

    Here:

    Karl Stefanovic weighs in on Barnaby Joyce’s affair scandal.

    Karl Stefanovic has weighed in on the Barnaby Joyce affair scandal, saying the embattled Deputy Prime Minister should move to the backbench.

    The comments came during a Tuesday morning discussion with broadcaster Ray Hadley about Mr Joyce’s affair with his former staffer Vikki Campion.

    Comments closed at the Daily Mail.

  222. zyconoclast

    Oh dear.
    Did Artist Give Obama an Extra Finger?

    Consenting adults, in private…

  223. 132andBush

    Don’t know what happened, I used to be able to watch and listen to Bolt before, but lately he annoys me no end.

    Price and Bolt have really gone downhill since Steve went to the jungle. It’s starting to feel as though he’s just phoning it in. The fact he once voted Greens as well.
    Despite smacking the idiot who assaulted him Bolt seems to be lacking something. Getting worn down?
    I suggest new presenters.
    Mark Latham and Sam Newman

  224. nemkat

    Yup, from previous, a sustained attack will make Barn look like a victim and garner sympathy.

    Joyce has got a massive sense of entitlement, that was clear from his outrage at having to resign for breaching S44.
    Here’s my take on the scandal:
    Joyce practises Noblesse Oblige in his office. He’s tried it on with someone who wasn’t prepared to be made a moll of, and has been forced to take responsibility for his actions.
    However, Barnaby Joyces notion of taking responsility is to unload his problems onto the shoulders of the Australian taxpayer.
    That’s the real issue here, not his sex life.

  225. urb

    #2636122, posted on February 13, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    Late to the show but I would fork over some cashish to see this girl smash thru a pack off centre half back

  226. egg_

    Watching the Olympics. The name of one skater, Semen Eilistratov.

    Nickname “Ice cream”?

  227. Eyrie

    Franking credits LL. Takes 7% to 10%

  228. egg_

    NSW Govt leech is concerned about the taxpayer.
    Comedy gold.

  229. Steve trickler.

    Dedicated to all politicians, rooting around behind the scenes.



  230. Bronwyn Bishop is on fire on PML.
    Love your work Bronny – but just like Tony Abbott, it’s too late.

  231. The world is such a fucking depressing place at the moment.

  232. Rebel with cause

    I can’t be bothered defending Barnaby because I don’t think he’s ever bothered to stick up for conservative values.

    The LNP might reflect on the fact that when you constantly shit on your base, the base won’t stick up for you when you need them.

  233. candy

    That’s the real issue here, not his sex life.

    Who knows what to make of Barnaby now? A couple of years ago I thought he was the most likeable, easy to relate to, politician in a very long time. People like him, from all walks of life.
    It seems he has thrown away his career etc to sleep with this younger woman. I do think he drinks a bit too much. His body shape, stomach, complexion all speak of unhealthy habits. With the stress and all, a new baby on the way, financial difficulties, perhaps he needs to take stock.

    Difficult decision for the Nats. Barnaby = National Party.

  234. testpattern

    ‘Increasingly the home of loons.

    Former Canadian Defense Minister claims the Illuminati is REAL and has technology to reverse climate change but wants to keep it secret to help the petroleum industry

    Paul Hellyer’

    ‘ “The vast majority of economists and opinion leaders have got it all wrong”
    Posted on 12:27 am, October 13, 2016 by Steve Kates
    This is the incredible Introduction to a book by Paul Hellyer written in 1999…’

    If Marx had written what Hellyer did there would’ve been no Communism, no Russian revolution, nothing that Marx wrote would’ve been taken seriously. Ever. But Kates loves promoting the scribblings of loonies.

    ‘Then there’s the Short Grey’s as they are called, and they are the ones you see in most of the cartoons, they have very-very slim arms and legs, they are very short, just a little over 5 feet, and they have a great big head and great big brown eyes. But, there are different species and you have to know that they are different species and know that they all are different.’

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/137959-anadaminister-defense-ufo/

  235. OneWorldGovernment

    vr
    #2636303, posted on February 13, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    Hi JC.

    You see this? Seems out of place in this day and age.

    vr,

    I’ve worked with some very strong women and I find the whole board gender equality and claims of male testosterone fueled environments to be a smear against proper smart strong women.

  236. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The LNP might reflect on the fact that when you constantly shit on your base, the base won’t stick up for you when you need them.

    Pay that one

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