Monday Forum: February 19, 2018

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  1. Roger

    Drain the fetid billabong!

  2. H B Bear

    Di Natale is right. Fat Queensland slob George Christensen represents the greatest threat since the grey haired old duffers at Quadrant threatened to blow up the ALPBC staff co-op. Luckily quick thinking by the always impressive Googles G and Keystone Kops managed to avert a tragedy in than case.

    Another case of far Right wing violence. When will it stop?

  3. The Barking Toad

    wow – top 10

  4. The Barking Toad

    Richo makes a sensible comment – but the rest of his piece is waffle… from the Oz

    Zero political intelligence is the hallmark of the Turnbull era. Sunday’s miniature press conference in Melbourne proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that our Prime Minister is living in his own fantasy land.

    I cannot believe the stupidity of Turnbull let alone Joyce

  5. Rossini

    top 20 and just finished with Tom2s selection for the day!

  6. cohenite

    Turdball is worse than rudd in respect of a lack of critical self-awareness. People like these 2 are amazing; it’s as though they see nothing but their own impression of themselves which is always god-like. Just like rudd turdball does nothing which doesn’t support his own reflection; ideas scat around him like insects with as much substance. The only thing turdball has going for him is that tits has a record of constant betrayal of everyone, wife, workers, leaders and a rape allegation; tits deputy has a husband who is a convicted drug trafficker who on the strength of that qualification and nothing else is one of NSW’s most senior public servants. And of course tits will enable the greens even more than turdball does.

    Great days.

  7. H B Bear

    Plibbers biggest problem is that she is just very unintelligent. That is no obstacle to achieving high office inside the Liars as Wayne Goosesteen demonstrated, however it is a major obstacle against even minor achievement once there.

    The husband is yesterday’s news.

  8. Mark Steyn’s comments on the winter Olympics is classic.
    Few of us watch the two-man luge and coo, “Oh, it’s so romantic! Look at how the top guy arches his back to avoid crushing the bottom guy’s nuts! It’s obvious they’re in love!”

  9. Mother Lode

    I think I will get some modicum out of election night watching the concessions speech.

    Either Trumble delivers it himself and spends a good while waffling about messages being lost, naughty campaign antics by the other guys, perhaps a little about lack of party cohesion due to ‘far-right’ elements in the party. It will not be his fault.

    Or he will climb under a table and blub and Lucy stands up to scold we ingrates.

    Most likely it will be some Liberal shoe horned into office when it was all too obvious that the Libs had lost whereupon Maol would have announced we was not contesting the election anyway.

    In this case he will be getting ready for his new ‘career’ as a commentator so he can slag off all the people he thinks scuppered his destiny as Australia’s greatest ever Prime Minister.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Old School Conservative

    #2640529, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:03 am

    Mark Steyn’s comments on the winter Olympics is classic

    Heartbreak for Aussies in Korea.
    Bronze in the freestyle snowman.
    Looked set for gold until the carrot nose inexplicably fell off.
    Hmmmm.
    Sabotage?

  11. H B Bear

    KRudd and Turnbull are both classic examples of narcissism, arguably the most damaging personality defect in a leader. Both consider themselves the smartest men in the room despite continual failures, misjudgments and stuff-ups. Both shift blame for failure onto others around them, throwing colleagues overboard as and when required.

    Throw in Australia’s most Hard Left PM and Fabian Gillard and Abbott’s multiple defects and Australia has spent over a decade without anything approaching competent leadership or governance.

  12. Most likely it will be some Liberal shoe horned into office when it was all too obvious that the Libs had lost whereupon Maol would have announced we was not contesting the election anyway.

    Female, if Labor’s precedent is followed.

  13. struth

    I would like to dedicate this thread to the FBI, who prove that confusing gobble-de-gook and mindless dribble are not only confined to the academic in the “social sciences” looking for funding.

    To come out and remind people (while keeping a straight face) that there never has been a more important time to ring the FBI if they see something suspicious after being explicitly caught out doing nothing when people do.
    More front than Myers.
    Congratulations FBI, you surely had some gobs drop open with that one.
    If only the shooter was wearing a MAGA cap, this never would have happened.

    Also, as this is an Australian (well part Seth Afrrrrrricun) page, we also should dedicate this thread to our Prime Minister who has now ordered and caused MSB (Massive Sperm Buildup) in ministers not able to masterbate as freely and joyously as he can (from the mere sight of a U.N. dictate or ABC news crew) and therefore are now contemplating actually giving one to the old missus.
    Those wives are disgusted.
    They already did it to get into the position in the first place and resent this new threat to repeat past horrors.
    Oh, the humanity…………………………………

  14. struth

    I always get put into moderation in the mornings.

  15. Mother Lode

    Female, if Labor’s precedent is followed.

    True.

    Do you need shoe horns for high heels?

  16. struth

    Comment will get through in parts, most likely

    would like to dedicate this thread to the FBI, who prove that confusing gobble-de-gook and mindless dribble are not only confined to the academic in the “social sciences” looking for funding.

  17. struth

    To come out and remind people (while keeping a straight face) that there never has been a more important time to ring the FBI if they see something suspicious after being explicitly caught out doing nothing when people do.
    More front than Myers.
    Congratulations FBI, you surely had some gobs drop open with that one.
    If only the shooter was wearing a MAGA cap, this never would have happened.

  18. struth

    Also, as this is an Australian (well part Seth Afrrrrrricun) page, we also should dedicate this thread to our Prime Minister who has now ordered and caused MSB (Massive Sperm Buildup) in ministers not able to masterbate as freely and joyously as he can (from the mere sight of a U.N. dictate or ABC news crew) and therefore are now contemplating actually giving one to the old missus.

  19. struth

    Also, as this is an Australian (well part Seth Africun) page, we also should dedicate this thread to our Prime Minister who has now ordered and caused MSB (Massive Sperm Buildup) in ministers not able to masterbate as freely and joyously as he can (from the mere sight of a U.N. dictate or ABC news crew) and therefore are now contemplating actually giving one to the old missus.

  20. struth

    Also, as this is an Australian (well part Seth Africun) page, we also should dedicate this thread to our Prime Minister who has now ordered and caused MSB (Massive Sperm Buildup) in ministers not able to rub one out as freely and joyously as he can (from the mere sight of a U.N. dictate or ABC news crew) and therefore are now contemplating actually giving one to the old missus.

  21. struth

    Those wives are disgusted.
    They already did it to get into the position in the first place and resent this new threat to repeat past horrors.
    Oh, the humanity…………………………………

  22. Dr Faustus

    tits has a record of constant betrayal of everyone, wife, workers, leaders

    Nothing Machiavellian, or ‘whatever-it-takes’ realpolitik functionalism; Shorten’s betrayals have been for a singular reason; the benefit and advancement of William Richard Shorten. An entirely faithless creature, his vision and intent are strictly limited to the next personal opportunity.

    This will be the defining characteristic of the Shorten/DiNatale government.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    Few of us watch the two-man luge and coo, “Oh, it’s so romantic! Look at how the top guy arches his back to avoid crushing the bottom guy’s nuts! It’s obvious they’re in love!”

    Two stories today which just might be connected somehow…

    Gay Olympian who Bashed Vice President Pence, to Serve As NBC Correspondent for Rest of PyeongChang Games

    RATINGS CONTINUE TO COLLAPSE… (Drudge’s version of the headline)

    At the halfway point of the XXIII Winter Olympics, things are certainly feeling a little chilly for both Team USA and NBC.

    Maybe it’s just me, but if you piss off half the country perhaps that half of the country will walk quietly away and not watch your PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A NETWORK.

    Oops, sorry. Got carried away.

  24. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2640531, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:06 am
    I think I will get some modicum out of election night watching the concessions speech.

    MT was missing from the last general election LNP ‘celebration’. All smiles with Barnaby at by-election.
    MT’s ego cannot handle problems. I doubt he will take responsibility for any election loss.

  25. This morning I noticed one of those yard signs spruiking some real estate agent called Georgiou Peorgiou or something.
    Should I contact the authorities as I’m genuinely frightened that there is Greek collusion going on? There needs to be a full investigation into who paid for and supplied these signs and what connection there is to other Greek agents working in the shadows. Apparently this Georgiou also has a Facebook page, there is some serious infiltration and attempts to hijack our democracy…wait a minute…even the word democracy is Greek! My God they’re everywhere, the collusion is real! What can we do?

    Asking for a lefty friend.

  26. thefrolickingmole

    If only Derren Hinch’s new liver was as heroic as Lena Dunhams vagina bits.

    Every day Hinchs liver delays god kills another puppy.

  27. The Telegraph has a point.
    Joe Hockey “crusaded against foreigners entering our housing market.”

    He “once even referred a neighbour to the Foreign Investment Review Board.”

    “In 2013, Mr Hockey said he would establish a register of foreign nationals buying real estate and those who break the law would face fines up to a quarter of the value of the property and could be forced to sell.”

    “He said foreign ownership of real estate “raises significant issues ranging from national security to potential criminal activity”.

    Now he has listed his former home on a website catering for Chinese buyers. It does sound hypocritical.

  28. stackja

    Dr Faustus
    #2640549, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:17 am

    MSM will tell us we have been saved by BS/D from a great disaster.
    When, of course, BS/N will be the great disaster.

  29. H B Bear

    MT’s ego cannot handle problems. I doubt he will take responsibility for any election loss.

    Exactly. His giant ego will not allow him to step down. His narcissism will blame others for the election loss.

    Waffles joins R-G-R as one of Australia’s worst PMs. Abbott would probably be in there too although he was ripped down before he could be fairly judged.

  30. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2640556, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:28 am

    Only Red Chinese have the money?

  31. feelthebern

    What’s wrong if Chinese gazillionaires want to buy up all of Point Piper, Mosman, Hunters Hill, Vaucluse?
    Joe Hockey is an idiot.

  32. stackja

    Roger
    #2640559, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:30 am
    Hello:

    The role of fatherlessness in US school shootings & serious juvenile crime.

    LBJ Great Society. Moynihan said there was a problem 50 years ago.

  33. Now here is a case study that should be compulsory in high schools.

    Kane Bodiam has landed the biggest deal in Shark Tank Australia history. The 36-year-old snagged a whopping $2.5 million from Andrew Banks for 22.5 per cent of his iCapsulate coffee company.

    The former global coffee manager for Gloria Jeans’ did his homework before appearing on the Channel 10 show. He researched all the sharks and rehearsed his presentation 500 times

  34. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2640564, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:35 am
    What’s wrong if Chinese gazillionaires want to buy up all of Point Piper, Mosman, Hunters Hill, Vaucluse?
    Joe Hockey is an idiot.

    PLA creating enclaves.

  35. Joe Hockey is an idiot.

    He was an idiot.
    Now he’s a seller.

  36. feelthebern

    Pretty sure the guys spending 10 bricks on properties in Oz don’t much care about anything else, apart from the next 10 bricks.

  37. Roger

    Pretty sure the guys spending 10 bricks on properties in Oz don’t much care about anything else, apart from the next 10 bricks.

    All loyal members of the CPC.

  38. H B Bear

    Selling the Chinks houses in Point Piper isn’t a problem. Selling them Darwin harbour and the electricity network is.

  39. Tom

    I always get put into moderation in the mornings.

    Not enough napalm on your cornflakes, Struth.

  40. feelthebern

    We should have sold them the whole grid for a shit load more years ago.
    It’s a regulated utility.
    They can’t take our electrickeries back to China.

  41. feelthebern

    PS Darwin harbour was a lease.

  42. JohnA

    Dr Faustus #2640549, posted on February 19, 2018, at 10:17 am

    tits has a record of constant betrayal of everyone, wife, workers, leaders

    Nothing Machiavellian, or ‘whatever-it-takes’ realpolitik functionalism; Shorten’s betrayals have been for a singular reason; the benefit and advancement of William Richard Shorten. An entirely faithless creature, his vision and intent are strictly limited to the next personal opportunity.

    This will be the defining characteristic of the Shorten/DiNatale government.

    So narcissism will continue, only pausing to swap sides…

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Objections put Noongar native title deal on hold

    The Australian
    12:00AM February 19, 2018

    Victoria Laurie
    Senior reporter
    Perth

    The nation’s largest native title settlement is again being challenged by Aboriginal West Australians who claim their land rights have been signed away by delegates who do not represent them.

    It means the South West ­Native Title Settlement, a $1.3 billion land-use agreement with the state’s 30,000 Noongar people covering Perth and the lower third of the state, cannot be finalised almost three years after former premier Colin Barnett signed it. It also puts on indefinite hold annual payments of $50 million into a Noongar ­future fund, along with the handover of 320,000ha of land to Noongar ownership.

    Reg Hayden, senior elder of the Njaki Njaki people, said his group had filed an objection ­because only 17 of the 72 people eligible to sign away rights over their Ballardong claim area had approved it.

    He said nine of those 17 ­people had also had a second “bite of the cherry” because they added their signatures to one or more of five other land-use agreements that make up the settlement.

    The settlement requires the Noongar people to surrender all native title rights over about 200,000sq km covered by the settlement.

    From the Oz. Good luck negotiating a treaty with each of two or three hundred “First Nations.”

  44. John Constantine

    Selling houses to Chinese with hot money trying to get it out of the clutches of the Chinese Communist Party isn’t a problem.

    Allowing the Chinese Communist Party to buy our politicians in such numbers that we dynamite our own coal power stations, then buy in Chinese communist solar panels to replace them is a massive, economically genocidal problem.

    Allowing the chicoms to buy enough politicians to deindustrialise the country, then buy all industrial artifacts from the chicoms.

    What a brilliant idea, Julie bishop.

  45. Carpe Jugulum

    New thread, and it still has that new car 🚗 smell

  46. OldOzzie

    Barnaby Joyce affair: political advisers cost too much

    Perhaps the government wouldn’t need to crack down on sexual relations between politicians and their staff if there weren’t so many well-kept staff. The Barnaby Joyce saga has awkwardly revealed how the number and pay of political staff is out of control.

    Vikki Campion was just one of 155 senior political advisers employed by the Turnbull government last year. Surprised journalists reported her salary of “up to $191,000” for her digital and social media strategy role. That’s actually a considerable understatement.

    Such advisers receive a “private-plated vehicle” allowance of $24,600 and “parliamentary staff allowance” of $31,600 too. So the correct figure for senior advisers is a salary of up to $247,000 a year, excluding travel allowance of course, which for a non-­Canberra-based adviser is about $18,000 (untaxed). Then there’s 15.4 per cent superannuation.

    The opposition and Greens have about 26 senior advisers as well, suggesting taxpayers have to pony up about $45 million a year for senior political advice alone. It’s the tip of the iceberg. All up there are about 540 advisers spread across the government (442), opposition (95), and other minor parties. These higher paid roles (all six figures) come on top of the four electorate staff each MP and senator receives.

    In 2000 the Howard government had 345 advisers, according to the Parliamentary Library, suggesting growth of about 30 per cent. Australian federal politicians had no staff until 1944, when they were allowed a typist. Crossbenchers get advisers now. Last year they each enjoyed three on top of their electorate staff.

    Salaries aren’t the whole story, of course. The Australian reported last year that airfares, taxis and untaxed “travel allowance” for the Prime Minister’s 50-odd ministerial staff exceeded $2.13m last financial year or $5840 a day, about 87 per cent higher than Tony Abbott’s staff spent two years earlier. The same documents obtained under freedom-of-­information laws also showed the travel costs of the Opposition Leader’s 35-strong team had increased by 66 per cent to $2.34m, or $6420 a day, over the same period.

    Cost isn’t a big theme in Canberra, where even the taxis double the fare if they are carrying two or more passengers. And why not? As if anyone is using their own money.

    In 2013, the last year the government published the aggregate figures, the total cost for advisers and electorate staff came to $230m. Back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest it’s above $300m. The Australian has repeatedly tried to obtain the latest figures.

    Similar problems emerge in state governments, egregiously in South Australia, where Premier Jay Weatherill had more than 43 full-time personal staff (not far off the PM), according to the government gazette, including 17 media advisers earning between $115,000 and $157,000 a year.

    Ministers and politicians clearly need staff, and quite a few more than a generation ago, given the demands of media. But the question has to be asked whether the numbers and pay have become excessive, and potentially corrosive. If the pay is so good, why risk prosecuting change in the public interest? The highest priority becomes keeping one’s job.

    Even ministers’ receptionists now earn up to $100,000. In political la-la land that’s considered a low salary, but it also happens to be 40 per cent higher than median full-time earnings in Australia. British and US political advisers are routinely shocked by the remarkably plush conditions of Australia’s political class.

    In Britain only a handful of advisers earns more than 100,000 pounds a year, and there are far fewer of them. The British government employed 82 “special advisers” (32 in Prime Minister Theresa May’s ­office) in 2016; cabinet ministers were allowed a maximum of two. Cabinet ministers in Australia have between 12 and 20 each.

    Some allowance needs to be made for the greater proximity of ministers to their departments in Britain. As Yes, Minister viewers well know, Sir Humphrey Appleby was just down the hall. In Canberra, ministers have their offices in the parliament, far away from their public servants down the hill.

    Even so, it’s not clear the quantum spent on political advice would pass a cost-benefit test. The federal government has more than 150,000 public servants, some of whom are on eye-popping pay deals, to administer policy and provide advice.

    We’ll never know how much worse the Nationals’ social and digital media strategy would have been without Campion’s efforts. But even if it were substantially worse, should taxpayers be paying for this anyway? To the extent many staffers are politicians in waiting (just look at the career history of so many MPs), the public is forced to pay costs that should really be borne by political parties themselves.

    No one doubts many staff work long hours (I know, I used to be one), but that doesn’t mean the work has to be done in the first place, or paid for by taxpayers. The fact roles can be created, abolished and shifted so easily, as was Campion’s, should be a red flag in any audit.

    Nothing much is likely to change. Politicians are reluctant to talk about this because both sides benefit so much. The real power of politicians, after all, is the power of appointment. The more appointments, the more power.

    But there are some obvious places to make savings, and boost the public’s respect for the political class. For instance, must staff (and politicians) fly business class for the short flights between Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra? Or why not run a bus between Canberra airport and the parliament, saving many millions a year in taxi fares? The absurdity of separate vehicles and “parliamentary” allowances should be incorporated into salaries to make pay scales clearer.

    A future government should also make a hard decision about whether having political advisers in their 20s earning more than some GPs is in line with community standards.

  47. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2640585, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:51 am
    We should have sold them the whole grid for a shit load more years ago.
    It’s a regulated utility.
    They can’t take our electrickeries back to China.

    They can charge what they want. Central Committee gets richer.

  48. feelthebern

    They can not charge what they want.
    Hence the term “regulated utility”.

  49. stackja

    OldOzzie
    #2640595, posted on February 19, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Gough created the staffer model.

  50. Roger

    They can’t take our electrickeries back to China.

    China is seeking to establish its hegemony in the region and will do all it can to undermine our alliance with its main threat to achieving that goal, the USA. Investment brings political influence. Selling strategic assets to front companies for the Chinese regime might thus be considered a little short sighted in our present geo-political context. But, hey, go-betweens like Bob Hawke and John Howard are doing well out of it.

  51. C.L.

    But of course:

    Turnbull lashes Christensen post

    Malcolm Turnbull criticises a photo of gun-toting George Christensen as Sarah Hanson-Young blames the image for a death threat sent to her.

  52. stackja

    Roger
    #2640603, posted on February 19, 2018 at 11:03 am

    Bob and Sam?

  53. Andreas

    What’s wrong if Chinese gazillionaires want to buy up all of Point Piper, Mosman, Hunters Hill, Vaucluse?
    Joe Hockey is an idiot.

    Because they don’t just buy houses in Point Piper, Mosman, Hunters Hill and Vaucluse.

    Foreigners spending $8bn a year on new housing in NSW and Victoria
    Foreign spending on new housing in NSW and Victoria is running at an annualised rate of $8 billion a year, according to a research note from Credit Suisse.
    The bank said the rate in NSW alone was an “extraordinary” $4.9bn a year, the equivalent of 25 per cent of new supply.

  54. H B Bear

    PS Darwin harbour was a lease.

    Yeah it is. Where will you be in 99 years?

  55. stackja

    C.L.
    #2640604, posted on February 19, 2018 at 11:04 am

    MT never lets an opportunity go unnoticed.

  56. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2640610, posted on February 19, 2018 at 11:08 am
    PS Darwin harbour was a lease.

    Yeah it is. Where will you be in 99 years?

    Where will the Central Committee be in 99 years?

  57. struth

    Not enough napalm on your cornflakes, Struth.

    sniff sniff……………………………………….

  58. H B Bear

    Where will the Central Committee be in 99 years?

    Well it has a much greater chance than me of still being here for a start.

  59. Des Deskperson

    “Plibbers biggest problem is that she is just very unintelligent.”

    But… but.. she was dux of Jannali Girls High.

    Actually, I agree with HBB. the jowled one’s public statements are almost entirely short, sub-cerebral, unoriginal smears, it’s like she reading from the twitter stream of some zealous but dull junior Labor staffer.

    Senior politicians on all sides often contribute ‘think pieces ‘ to the op-ed pages of the media – the Oz usually has an eclectic mix. Some are good and some not so good, but I recall nothing at all on these lines from the Pilaster, despite being deputy leader and foreign policy spokesperson.

  60. Mother Lode

    The role of fatherlessness in US school shootings & serious juvenile crime.

    Because a child can become fatherless through their father’s death, and because some fathers are just deadbeats that children would still be better without, then this avenue of enquiry will be considered to have no legitimacy.

    Because there is an element of ‘luck’ – because some kids have a natural automatic advantage (they have a loving Dad and other kids don’t) and it cannot be shown to be through some sort of injustice perpetrated by the good fathers (somehow ‘stealing’ from the less fortunate) it will not be considered.

    There are only two ways a good progressive can respond to this.

    1) Identify how the fathers in functional families take good fatherly role-models from fatherless kids. Once properly weaponised the idea of ‘privilege’ may obtain here.

    2) Try to neuter the benefits of good father figures. Demonise them, make them all protential child abusers and spouse abusers. Sow suspicion in everything they do. Outlaw things that would inculcate a fatherly bond, like male only events (scouts and what have you.) This is the current default policy anyway.

  61. Robber Baron

    Please…someone…anyone…challenge Turnbull for the leadership. You will win!

    Then appoint him Chairman of the ABC. You know he won’t be able to resist it as he will try to use all it’s resources to tear down his opponents and glorify himself. And as we all know, Turnbull will destroy the ABC as he has destroyed everything else. Only Turnbull can decimate the ABC. You know this makes sense.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Analysis: WA taxpayers funding budget surpluses in other states
    Shane Wright, Economics Editor | PerthNow
    February 19, 2018 2:00AM

    ALMOST all the States and Territories opposed to WA getting a fair share of GST have propped up their Budgets on the back of WA taxpayers.

    In revelations WA Treasurer Ben Wyatt says confirm the need for the Federal Government to deliver some fiscal “tough love”, an analysis of more than 60 Budgets since 2010 shows the extent to which other States have featherbedded their own services on the back of the GST system.

    The West Australian can reveal that Budget surpluses promised this year by Queensland, Tasmania and South Australia are because of extra GST sent to those States by the Commonwealth Grants Commission.

    And deficits in the Northern Territory and the ACT would be substantially larger if not for the existing allocation system.

    The Productivity Commission has proposed two different ways to spread the $65 billion GST among the States and Territories. Under one system, the GST would be based on the average fiscal performance of all jurisdictions. The other would be based on the second strongest State.

    Modelling done by the SA Treasury shows both systems would have delivered WA between $18.8 billion and $20.8 billion extra between 2010-11 and the current financial year.

    But the same modelling has also shown just how dependent the rest of the country’s Budgets have become on ripping cash out of WA. The Queensland Budget, in surplus since 2013-14, would have been in deficit if not for its share of WA’s GST allocation.

    For this year alone, instead of a surplus of almost $150 million, Queensland would have had a deficit of more than $1.4 billion.

    In Tasmania, where the state of the Budget is a key election issue, surpluses of the past two years would instead have been substantial deficits under the system proposed by the PC.

    Even NSW and Victoria — which have traditionally propped up the rest of the Commonwealth — would have run substantially smaller surpluses if not for getting a share of WA’s GST.

    West Aussie taxpayers prop up the mendicant States……

  63. thefrolickingmole

    For our lady cats a question.

    Do ladies find books like Flashman & Wodehouse funny?

    “But I still state unhesitatingly, that for pure, vacillating stupidity, for superb incompetence to command, for ignorance combined with bad judgment –in short, for the true talent for catastrophe — Elphy Bey stood alone. Others abide our question, but Elphy outshines them all as the greatest military idiot of our own or any other day.
    Only he could have permitted the First Afghan War and let it develop to such ruinous defeat. It was not easy: he started with a good army, a secure position, some excellent officers, a disorganized enemy, and repeated opportunities to save the situation. But Elphy, with the touch of true genius, swept aside these obstacles with unerring precision, and out of order wrought complete chaos. We shall not, with luck, look upon his like again.”
    ― George MacDonald Fraser, Flashman

  64. Mark A

    from old thread
    memoryvault
    #2640466, posted on February 19, 2018 at 6:12 am

    Yep. Here’s an idea. Let’s stop bringing people from that part of the world to Australia, Christian or otherwise.

    Here’s an even better idea. Let’s stop bringing in people from any part of the world until we sort out the problems we already have.

    Too late for sorting it in a civilised manner, MV.

  65. Bear Necessities

    I notice Lucy Turnbull has contacted Natalie Joyce regarding the break up. Just stay the f… out of their business. Why would you do that?

    I think Mal should sack Lucy as his main political advisor.

  66. H B Bear

    I liked Lucy a lot more when she was doing stand-up comedy with the gladdies and Les Patterson.

  67. Confused Old Misfit

    “But I still state unhesitatingly, that for pure, vacillating stupidity, for superb incompetence to command, for ignorance combined with bad judgment –in short, for the true talent for catastrophe — Malcolm Turnbull stands alone. Others abide our question, but Malcolm outshines them all as the greatest political idiot of our own or any other day.
    Only he could have permitted the the assassination of a sitting Prime Minister and let it develop to such ruinous defeat. It was not easy: he started with a good team, a secure house, some excellent ministers, a disorganized opposition, and repeated opportunities to save the situation. But Malcolm, with the touch of true genius, swept aside these obstacles with unerring precision, and out of order wrought complete chaos. We shall not, with luck, look upon his like again.”
    With apologies to ― George MacDonald Fraser, Flashman

  68. woolfe

    I think Mal should sack Lucy as his main political advisor.

    At least we hope he is not having sex with her.

  69. Habib

    Now he has listed his former home on a website catering for Chinese buyers. It does sound hypocritical.

    Doesn’t sound, is. Fat prick’s a one-generation removed Sand Goblin as well, I’d sooner have Chinks next door, they’re less likely to be dealing smack and inviting drive-bys. I remember once I was in a quite good Japanese restaurant in Crows Nest, and Staples and his entourage turned up without a booking, and the corpulent c#*t kicked up a ruckus because they wouldn’t immediately boot out some punters and free up an alfresco table for him and posse to stuff their guts on other people’s money.

    These swine are our enemy. Even though both him and Bomber have lost a few kilos, we’d have to charter a heavylift to deal with them, they’d still be out of dimension even for a Chinook. Anywhere needing a dam though could be saved extensive excavation by a well-placed drop, might take a while for the ming to dissipate though.

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Please…someone…anyone…challenge Turnbull for the leadership. You will win!

    First thing Turnbull did on accession unto royalty is knobble all potential rivals.
    Morro being Exhibit A.
    Frydenberg is Exhibit B.

    Only an obliteration in the upcoming election can clean out enough of the Photios pussies so that guys like Hastie take over. And if Photios keeps control (fairly likely) the Libs are gone.

  71. Habib

    Selling the Chinks houses in Point Piper isn’t a problem. Selling them Darwin harbour and the electricity network is. If they’re dumb enough to take on the colossal sovereign risk involved in those two examples or anything else for that matter they can fill their double-pluggers. Good luck to them, they’re going to bloody well need it.

  72. zyconoclast

    McBride, Amber – 3 August 2017 Alice Springs Hearing of the NT Fracking enquiery

    Self identifies as a Eco-feminist-warrior-mermaid-fairy-princess-cowgirl.
    Chosen name is Fanny Waterfall.

    You only need to watch the first 3:20 of the 25 min video.
    Either best or worst 3:20 you will use today.

  73. stackja

    BON – UAP disappeared. Menzies probably didn’t create a proper structure for Liberals. The factions saw an opportunity.

  74. P

    We can handle this OK

    Lucy: I think we are fighting a losing game

  75. zyconoclast

    NSW primary school suspensions skyrocket

    When looking at both primary and high school suspensions, schools in south-western Sydney recorded more than 9560 short and long suspensions in 2016, which is nearly four times more than any other part of Sydney.

    Professor Graham said that south-western Sydney has “the biggest number of students, as well as the biggest number of students who come from overseas, have refugee backgrounds or have disadvantaged backgrounds”.

    “These schools are dealing with a lot of complex and challenging kids and their resources are stretched. Suspensions aren’t the best way to go, but they’re the easiest way to go.”

  76. C.L.

    The Lucille Ball chocolate skit is one of the funniest of all time.

  77. egg_

    the grey haired old duffers at Quadrant threatened to blow up the ALPBC staff co-op.

    Not The Great Tea Trolley Disaster of ’67?

  78. feelthebern

    Self identifies as a Eco-feminist-warrior-mermaid-fairy-princess-cowgirl.
    Chosen name is Fanny Waterfall.

    Surely a parody?
    It was quite hypnotic all the same.
    Clearly a victim of child abuse.

  79. egg_

    Frydenberg is Exhibit B.

    Frydemburgers hawking EVs would have to be the pits.

  80. feelthebern

    Day 6 of the flu.
    On the home straight.
    Feeling hungry again.

  81. feelthebern

    Sat next to someone who coughed the entire flight last week.
    Struck me down on Wednesday.
    Been struggling ever since.

  82. Bruce of Newcastle

    Top Ender – one for you:

    World War II veteran Mervyn Ey looks back on the Bombing of Darwin in sadness and in pride

    Mr Ey has returned to the tropical north from Adelaide to commemorate today’s 76th anniversary of the brutal Japanese bombing raids on Darwin.

    “It certainly brings back memories. There is a photo of 18 of us in our platoon, and I’m the last one left of them.

    The veteran was in Nightcliff working on infantry defences when the first bombs hit Darwin.

    “Our battalion was scattered along the coast, along Nightcliff and Rapid Creek,” he said.

    “When the bombers came, we were working on barbed- wire fences. We could hear the bombs, but they weren’t close enough to worry us.

    “We watched the planes come overhead and when we heard the bombs, we had to work out what to do.

    “The planes kept coming overhead, and one bomber got shot down. That’s one thing you never forget, seeing a bomber flutter like leaves.”

    If you have trouble with the NT News story link there’s also an ABC version of it which I won’t link to (hack, spit).

  83. egg_

    Now he has listed his former home on a website catering for Chinese buyers

    The hypocrisy of our ruling class.

  84. egg_

    But Malcolm, with the touch of true genius, swept aside these obstacles with unerring precision, and out of order wrought complete chaos.

    Utter self-interest means he’s whiteanted the Cabinet. Now he’s offsided his Deputy unnecessarily.
    I don’t think that the 2PP polls could get any worse, but his preferred leader stakes have nosedived.

  85. EvilElvis

    Comment will get through in parts, most likely

    I’m starting to wish I hadn’t described you as my ‘spirit animal’ on a previous thread, struth. I feel I’m being moderated by association.

    Anyway, this one time, at band camp…

  86. The Barking Toad

    (hack, spit).

    well done Sir Bruce

  87. Zippy;

    China undermining us ‘with sticks and carrots’: Outgoing German minister

    We may not want to admit it, but China is at war with the rest of the world.
    This war doesn’t have to be fought with guns and bombs.

    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu.

    The Chinese Battlespace is far wider than ours. They pursue conflict in political/social/economic terms as well as military.
    I make the point of the deliberate Chinese sabotage of our political system by bribery of our politicians, the theft of our intellectual properties, and the bussing of Chinese students into electorates with the aim of subverting the will of the voters.
    When you look at the state of Western manufacturing, the Chinese have done to us the same as we did to Germany and Japan in WW2. Just look at the rust belts through Australia, the US, and Europe.
    The PRC has developed a massive manufacturing base that can churn out ten thousand AK47s every day, along with the ammo for them.
    And they have 40 million males who are never going to marry and have children because due to government policy, the female babies were aborted.
    Those 40 million males are now surplus to requirements.

    There. I’ve said it. Do your worst…

  88. Rebel with cause

    Australian media: gay marriage good, homoerotic behaviour bad?

  89. Roger

    West Aussie taxpayers prop up the mendicant States……

    Hey, we propped you up for the best part of the 20th C..

    Ingrates!

    😉

  90. Motelier

    zyconoclast,
    You really deserve a medal for finding that youtube video of Amber McBride presenting to the fracking inquiry.

    I lasted 90 seconds.
    Amber (Fanny the unenlightened) needs to have her jaw wired shut.

    Two benefits from this, she will loose about 80% of her body mass and thus be healthier for it, and she can’t spew lies and half truths.

    Here, cats and kittehs is evidence that high taxes cause sloth and stupidity.

  91. Roger

    When you look at the state of Western manufacturing, the Chinese have done to us the same as we did to Germany and Japan in WW2.

    With a great deal of assistance from out political class, it must be said.

  92. H B Bear

    Self identifies as a Eco-feminist-warrior-mermaid-fairy-princess-cowgirl.
    Chosen name is Fanny Waterfall.

    That’s gold Jerry, gold. She should be in the Senate.

  93. egg_

    His giant ego will not allow him to step down. His narcissism will blame others for the election loss.

    Didn’t he and Lucy already have the knives out on 60 Minutes in the event of an Election loss?

  94. Mother Lode

    gay marriage good, homoerotic behaviour bad?

    They are making a mockery of love is love is love.

    Weird thing is that the most pervasive stereotype of gays and whatnot is the one they manufacture and re-assert every year at that gaudy display of tackiness – the Mardi Gras.

    The arseless chaps and the leather, the heavily painted cross dressers with their 1970’w fashions – they don’t look like women, they look like a parody of women. How are we supposed to be impressed by something so inept?

  95. struth

    I’m starting to wish I hadn’t described you as my ‘spirit animal’ on a previous thread, struth. I feel I’m being moderated by association.

    Did you?
    I didn’t read that, as I don’t scroll back that far usually.
    This is what Mrs Struth says all the time.
    She could have made something of herself if not brought down being associated with me.
    I say, who told you, you could stop working and start mouthing off?
    Get back to work , wench.

    She rarely reads catallaxy, so I feel safe saying that, and Notafan is in Italy probably asleep right now.
    I may get away with it, although Johanna could show up any minute, in from the gardening, Gab just ignores it, too dignified to lower herself, and calli rightly laughs me off!

    Could be in the clear, (if not moderated)

  96. Neil

    His giant ego will not allow him to step down. His narcissism will blame others for the election loss.

    For a moment i thought you were talking about Barnaby. But Barnaby should stand down to help the story go away

  97. egg_

    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu.

    The UN has delivered for them – case in point: low energy security and loss of manufacturing in SA.

  98. egg_

    Barnaby should stand down

    Turnbull fvcked up a situation that was under control with his inept speech on Thursday – he should stand down – the Libs may get a poll bounce as a result, if that’s your key metric?

  99. EvilElvis

    Did you?
    I didn’t read that, as I don’t scroll back that far usually.
    This is what Mrs Struth says all the time.
    She could have made something of herself if not brought down being associated with me.
    I say, who told you, you could stop working and start mouthing off?
    Get back to work , wench.

    She rarely reads catallaxy, so I feel safe saying that, and Notafan is in Italy probably asleep right now.
    I may get away with it, although Johanna could show up any minute, in from the gardening, Gab just ignores it, too dignified to lower herself, and calli rightly laughs me off!

    Could be in the clear, (if not moderated)

    It was after a particularly vigorous rant, the subject of which escapes me. It was perfectly timed with my brain which was having (another) straw, camel, back moment.

    I never implied you were bringing me down.

    Now enough of this copycat fried brain fawning weirdness, on with the thread!

  100. Peter Castieau

    West Aussie taxpayers prop up the mendicant States……

    True, the challenge is how do you fix this system when the rest of the country don’t really give a flying fk that they are on the take bigly?

  101. Roger

    Point of difference:

    Trumble to discuss alternative to China’s Belt & Road initiative – an investment seven times larger than the Marshall Plan – with Trump this week, with India and Japan as co-partners.

    Labor says it is open to China’s initiative.

    Meanwhile, China is everywhere in our back yard of the South Pacific, including PNG, edging out Australian influence and drawing Pacific countries into their orbit. NZ has already agreed to be part of Belt & Road, btw.

  102. egg_

    For Sarah Sea-Patrol Whale-Watch, the attack in the US was ultimately caused by guns’ undisputed power, on the briefest contact with the skin on the hand, to commandeer human bodies and rewire the brain to make them homicidal maniacs.

    Therefore, to her, seeing Christiansen holding a gun is tantamount not only to his approving of the attack in Florida, but also indicative of his desire to go into a school and mow down children.

    Whales with guns?
    Sounds worse than Sharknado.

  103. Leigh Lowe

    Malcolm assured me this morning via Channel Nein that I really, really wanted to hear him delivery a ten minute morality tale and virtually assure Bill Shorten a rails-run to the Lodge.
    Silly me.
    I only thought I wanted him to shut the fuck up.
    Apparently I wanted to hear him spout some sort of quaint Victorian book of rooting rules that will only apply to selected Coalition Ministers.
    Thanks for putting me straight, oh Potentially Great one.

  104. OldOzzie

    The Aussie Invasion: Hillsong Hits America’s Shores

    The Australians in the form of the global Hillsong churches, are coming. Actually, they are already here.

    Let’s take stock.

    Just after Memorial Day weekend 2016, the massive Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN) invited Hillsong church to begin its own channel, calling it the Hillsong Channel. I have been watching them since then and lead global pastor Brian C. Houston’s preaching for a number of years now on his own half-hour show. He is better than most TV preachers. For starters, his accent is charming, and he’s needlessly a little defensive about it. He elides the “r,” as in chu’ch, just as one example. It doesn’t sound exactly British, but it is not American, either. It’s proudly Australian. Houston is also positive – and here he is unusual for a man of English heritage. In my experience, Aussies, Kiwis, and Britons can be sour and negative among church folks. In contrast, Americans are optimistic and bubbly. And so his upbeat slogan fits an American outlook: “Your best is yet to come!” Finally, to match the slogan, he has a nice smile. Americans like big smiles.

    The imaging and edits at Hillsong Channel are first-rate. The creative team behind their promos – cool trombones and syncopated drumbeats, guys! – is modern and upbeat. Their montages of white horses, people on beaches or in church with their hands raised, of the Christ statue in Brazil, of people smiling and dancing and leaping and hugging, and solemn worshipers – are all marvelous and attractive. It projects the youthful cool factor. And of course, their worship ministry, their mainstay, is of the highest quality. It is also a huge money-maker – $300 million is one figure thrown around. Their original programs are deep, but simple enough for the new convert to understand.

    One of the most refreshing aspects of the Aussies is that they don’t indulge in quickly fading American subculture fantasies. If the Aussies tried it, they could not pull it off. They would look laughable. Instead, their style is wonderfully streamlined and straightforward and international. It will stand the test of time. I hope they stay that way, too.

    The Aussies should keep coming over, and they should stay. They are a breath of fresh air in a narcissistic America stuck in her past and old politics and wacky subcultures. If they rise above it all, then people of all backgrounds here will love them for it, and their outreach will be cross-cultural and huge.

  105. struth

    Oh Dear.
    If Western Australians were serious they would push for state based taxation for the entire country.

    Apart from defence, what is the bloody Federal side of things need taxes for anyway?
    The states should be paying a percentage of their revenue to the Commonwealth for security spending and justice expenses, maybe, and then they can compete with each other for taxpayers choice of where to live.

    They’d soon rediscover capitalism and that lowering taxes increases revenue.

  106. Mother Lode

    Whales with guns?

    I think she would be more dangerous with a knife and fork than she could ever be with a gun.

    I suspect the only reason she insisted on dragging that sick kid of hers on “Sarah’s Sea Patrol” to do some whale-tipping was because after a few days away, and so many exquisite dishes eaten, the memory of her offspring would begin to fade and she would open the door at home and gobble down the poor mite before she remember who it was.

    Seriously, how does retarded hippy like her maintain such a substantial girth? How do lentil and asparagus fritatas give a frame more appropriate to a dedicated but excessively sedentary carnivore?

  107. Zyconoclast

    For some reason the ABC doesn’t like the Polish government.

    Imagine this: a right-wing populist party comes to power, promising to protect the nation’s Catholic roots, stand up for family values and reject the liberal elite.
    There is soon an attempt to put a blanket ban on abortion.
    The President declares same-sex marriage will never be legalised.
    Heads roll in the public service and at state TV and radio stations.
    There’s a refusal to accept refugees from nearby nations — part of the concern is that many are Muslims.
    Community groups say xenophobia, Islamophobia and anti-Semitism are becoming more common.
    An increasingly vocal far-right fringe movement grows, inspiring people with extreme views across the continent.
    A new law is introduced, which leading academics worry will make it difficult to challenge the Government’s preferred version of history — powerful allies are upset.
    Then there is the judicial overhaul.
    In two years, 13 pieces of legislation are passed that observers believe undermine the independence of the country’s courts.
    Legal experts say the justice system can now be stacked with political appointees, including the court that rules on the validity of election results.
    But this is not some imaginary scenario — it’s all happened in Poland since 2015.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-19/why-you-should-care-about-what-is-happening-in-poland/9460332

  108. egg_

    West Aussie taxpayers prop up the mendicant States……

    Oh, how the pendulum swings.

  109. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2640665, posted on February 19, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    McBride, Amber – 3 August 2017 Alice Springs Hearing of the NT Fracking enquiery

    Self identifies as a Eco-feminist-warrior-mermaid-fairy-princess-cowgirl.
    Chosen name is Fanny Waterfall.

    Fuck me dead, twice. But credit where credit is due; this creature waddled it’s arse to this enquiry while the rest of us bitch about mutants like her and their influence on policy.

  110. Viva

    The Lucille Ball chocolate skit is one of the funniest of all time.

    You bet. Reminds me of my holiday job packing biscuits watching as a sea of melting moments headed in our direction. We had to scoop them up three times x three at a time to a fill a pack without breaking any.

    The only respite came when I was assigned the task of sticking the glace cherries on top

  111. Norman Church

    True, the challenge is how do you fix this system when the rest of the country don’t really give a flying fk that they are on the take bigly?

    Not through agreement with the other states, that is for sure. When six wolves and a sheep sit down to decide what to have for dinner, there can be only one outcome.

    Not through Federal Government action, that is for sure. The de-facto nationalisation of WA’s mineral wealth has allowed the Feds to shift the burden of funding the territories onto the taxpayers of WA and have plenty left to bribe voters in other states. There are too few votes in WA to risk the wailing from voters in the rest of the country from withdrawing the teat.

    No, the only way anything is ever going to change on the GST front is for the people of WA to elect a bloc of Senators from WA who can control the balance of power and hold the country to ransom.

  112. egg_

    Malcolm assured me this morning via Channel Nein that I really, really wanted to hear him delivery a ten minute morality tale and virtually assure Bill Shorten a rails-run to the Lodge.

    This guy is in a special category of retard.
    Aren’t pollies ranked the-lowest-of-the-low and he goes on a sanctimonious rant?
    Bzzzzt!

  113. hzhousewife

    I though Brian Houston of Hillsong was a New Zealander, his accent does not sound to me entirely Australian.

  114. struth

    I know Jacinta Price and Her other half personally.
    They are getting some seriously threatening behaviour directed against them.
    Change facebook pages and all that shit.
    Can’t really go out and about in Alice.
    Shameful shit.

    Alice Springs, once a proud beef cattle, tourism and rail- head town, a town they made movies about, has been reduced to a pile of government Marxist shit filled with Fanny Waterfalls and all sorts of perverted sickness and welfare fuelled violence.
    For truth , it is not “alcohol fuelled” it “Marxist fuelled”

  115. H B Bear

    If Western Australians were serious they would push for state based taxation for the entire country.
    Apart from defence, what is the bloody Federal side of things need taxes for anyway?

    The Australian Federation is one of the most broken elements of this polity. It achieves nothing. Every year COAG meets to reduce any federal competitive tension that may emerge to the lowest common denominator.

  116. Viva

    New thread, and it still has that new car 🚗 smell

    Don’t worry Carpe, someone will piss on the leather upholstery soon enough.

  117. H B Bear

    This guy is in a special category of retard.

    Potentially Great retard.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Mole, I have never read Flashman but I love Wodehouse. He is a fine stylist, a perfect humorist, bringing to life his loopy characters in an engaging prose as they sally forth into the scrapes and concerns of his make-believe world that never was. Entertainment with a capital E.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh, how the pendulum swings.

    Point taken, but the last time Western Australia had the begging bowl out was 1969.

  120. Roger

    Every year COAG meets to reduce any federal competitive tension that may emerge to the lowest common denominator.

    Fiscal equalisation.

    For decades WA was a net beneficiary of it at the expense of NSW, VIC & QLD, which all received less in Commonwealth grants than a strictly population based formula entitled them to.

    State based taxation with the accompanying competition is really the only way forward, with a drastic reduction in the size of the Commonwealth. Can’t see it happening, though.

  121. rickw

    Remington Outdoor just filed for Bankruptcy.

    Trump is great at a lot of things, but one thing he can’t do is drive gun sales like Obama!

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    GoFundMe for the cop that lost a foot, as a result of the young bloke checking his phone, has just topped $80,000

  123. thefrolickingmole

    Not to mention the % of monies looted for the state squandermonkies to piss up the wall was much, much lower.

    Federation has been rooted since the franklin dam, when they “discovered” a wonderful new world of non legislative “law’ they could use to justify nearly anything.

  124. struth

    If States raised their own taxes, South Australia would be vacated and Weatherdill and the labor party would be wandering down a windswept King William Street, looking for any sign of life, asking each other if anyone knows how to work the coffee machine in the abandoned café, with one other replying, but don’t they need electricity?

  125. Viva

    Frolick

    I loved Apthorpe’s adventures with his thunderbox in A Dance To The Music of Time. Does that count?

  126. Andreas

    The Lucille Ball chocolate skit is one of the funniest of all time.

    If you’re an American or born in 1912.

  127. overburdened

    The list of fuckwits who require the Overburdened Behavioural Retraining Program grows exponentially.
    It may just be that the greens pollies and emma alberici were already notionally on the list, and have promoted themselves up the leader board.

  128. Roger

    If States raised their own taxes, South Australia would be vacated and Weatherdill and the labor party would be wandering down a windswept King William Street, looking for any sign of life, asking each other if anyone knows how to work the coffee machine in the abandoned café, with one other replying, but don’t they need electricity?

    That may happen anyway.

  129. H B Bear

    Roger I accept your argument about the length of time WA was a beneficiary of the process. How does that compare to the amount of $$$ that has flowed in recent times through the GST? No other State has ever even approached the levels of WA’s distributions.

    One of the problems with the whole system is the complexity and opaqueness of the process. It defies explanation – all the mug taxpayers see is the end result.

  130. struth

    If States raised their own taxes, we could see all those lefties that state that they are willing to pay more tax, head to the higher taxing states to live………………………………………………….Bwwhhhahahahahaaahahahahahha.

  131. egg_

    Potentially Great retard.

    Hopefully, Barn learns from Tits and lets Lord Waffleworth dig his own hole/grave.

  132. overburdened

    the prick who is an ABC-made celebrity for being intransigent in custody would get the Deluxe Treatment Package (C)

  133. Norman Church

    For decades WA was a net beneficiary of it at the expense of NSW, VIC & QLD, which all received less in Commonwealth grants than a strictly population based formula entitled them to.

    The trickle of funds across the Nullarbor in pre-GST times bears no comparison to the vast amounts being hoovered out of WA under the current arrangements.

    The current GST arrangements are profoundly inequitable and stupid.

  134. struth

    What would be the implications for the destruction of our western nation as decreed by the U.N. global socialists if the states had to compete for taxpayers?

  135. Struth;
    The locust plague would have moved on to other states and turned the rest of Australia into a screeching Leftist shithole.
    They would still be puzzled about what happened.

  136. egg_

    What would be the implications for the destruction of our western nation as decreed by the U.N. global socialists if the states had to compete for taxpayers?

    Marxism and OPM is at the core of the UN.

  137. egg_

    Potentially Great retard.

    Favourite for Gold in the “sh1t fingers” event at the Special Olympics?

  138. struth

    The Australian Conservatives should take this state based taxation idea to the electorate, focussing on the idea of competition between the states it would cause.
    The states should be funding the Commonwealth, not the other way around.
    Abolishing federal taxation, if sold well enough, would be very attractive to voters.
    They’d get W.A. voters and Queensland voters in larger numbers I would believe.
    Many voters also have the wrong idea that their state pays for others, and even when wrong, that rabid state based parochialism would see many thinking they’d be on a better wicket…………..

    The underlying benefits, especially regarding industry development, development therefore generally and a set incentive for SAtate Governments to dismiss the U.N. and global warming as problems getting tin the way of them raking in revenue, would be enormous.

    However, Australians, as exemplified here by WA again having a moan but not understanding the system they are under and who’s screwing them, ……………………..just moan.

  139. C.L.

    The Lucille Ball chocolate sketch is only funny if you’re American, Andreas?
    That’s possibly the stupidest comment that will appear here today.

  140. H B Bear

    What would be the implications for the destruction of our western nation as decreed by the U.N. global socialists if the states had to compete for taxpayers?

    Substantial. WA or Queensland would become Australia’s Texas. Don’t think Canberra and the High Court don’t realise this.

    Imagine giving yourself a tax cut (possibly substantial) by loading your stuff into the back of a truck and moving.

  141. Herodotus

    “Plibbers biggest problem is that she is just very unintelligent.”
    But… but.. she was dux of Jannali Girls High.

    Was she a finalist in the Walkleys in 2001? Eh? Eh?

  142. feelthebern

    I prefer the updated Lucille Ball.

  143. Des Deskperson

    I loved Apthorpe’s adventures with his thunderbox in A Dance To The Music of Time. Does that count?

    Err, it was in Waugh’s ‘Officers and Gentlemen’ .

    Or are you trying to be in some way sarcastic.

  144. thefrolickingmole

    Never been a fan of Lucille ball, always grated with me.

    Whats funny however is the gruinaid finding a photogenic victim of the harsh, uncaring, austerity state literally dying of cold in front of Parliament because MAY JUST DOESNT CARE !!11!!!

    Only for reality to step in and make them cry in the comments.

    Behind one homeless death lies a broader picture of despair and deprivation

    It has been revealed that the homeless man who died in Westminster, near where politicians walk every day, used to do some modelling.

    To an extent – so what? Yes, it’s an indictment of modern Britain that this man could die so close to power. And, of course, it’s vital that homeless people are humanised. Perhaps it’s good to mention the modelling, thereby proving that, once, this person had dreams, potential, just like anyone else.

    Unfortunately some of that modelling may have involved children, from the comments..

    mindset LordSummerTown 17h ago

    The Portuguese sources actually say he was jailed in the uk for child abuse and then deported – twice

    How very Gruiniad…

  145. struth

    I don’t think so, Winston.

    Throughout the entirety of human history wealth is slave ownership .
    Always has been, and the left , basically all the political elite know this.

    Taxpayers are your slaves, creating your wealth.
    The political elite get to a stage where they don’t have to go to war to get them, they play political games with each other and basically buy and sell them.
    We are being sold to the U.N.

    Once we get that, then , and only then, do we realise that to get the better slave owners we must, as slaves, be given the choice of who to be a slave to.
    We are going to be slaves at least partially as tax payers, so if that’s the case, they shouldn’t be just granted slaves, they should compete for them.

    The States would compete like a pack of dogs fighting over the one bowl of Pal.

  146. Zyconoclast

    Why didn’t the Libs think of this first?

    Perth bike path speed bump trial set to force speeding cyclists to slow down

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-19/speed-bumps-on-bike-path-trial-in-perth/9460750

  147. Andreas

    The Lucille Ball chocolate sketch is only funny if you’re American, Andreas?

    I didn’t say it wasn’t funny, you said it was one of the funniest of all time. Conveyor belt goes fast, hilarious! Mildly amusing but hardly the greatest of all time. I mean, please.

  148. old bloke

    I lasted 90 seconds.
    Amber (Fanny the unenlightened) needs to have her jaw wired shut.

    I lasted about 10 seconds. As soon as she started acknowledging the traditional owners of the land, I had seen enough.

  149. struth

    In another thread, they talk of property rights.

    What would state governments do to attract slaves if they had to compete for them if they found out the reason the slaves weren’t coming is because their local council’s rates are uncompetitive.
    No one wants to move their because there are too many regulations?

    Ah bugger, bloody WA has got a shit load of Slaves moving over there since they abolished Stamp duty.
    Ford is reopening it’s factory in Queensland because business tax is less there, and they have electrickery.

    All those slaves heading out of South Australia Weatherdill, whatcha gonna do about it?

    Isn’t it nice just to think about, even though you know it will never happen in a month of Sundays?

  150. struth

    there…………………..again FMD

    time for a break.

    Chores to do.

  151. Confused Old Misfit

    I lasted about 10 seconds. As soon as she started acknowledging the traditional owners of the land, I had seen enough.

    I did as well. The 9 1/2 seconds of the opening credit and 1/2 of *that*. One of those things that once seen that cannot be unseen.

  152. feelthebern

    I watched a couple of mins.
    I thought it was hilarious.

  153. Viva

    From the previous thread

    Zatara

    What it demonstrates is that if you don’t allow civilians to have firearms and you don’t mind having your entire defense force fully armed and on the streets at all times you can limit the ability to shoot people to terrorists, criminals, and the government.

    The army is at work in shops and offices: it’s a reserve army remember. I-srael’s police force including the formidable border police and security operatives are incredibly efficient. Arming all citizens would be like carrying coals to Newcastle and anyway they would just get in the way of armed professionals doing what they do best.

    Oh come on

    They want to gut the 2nd Amendment, and that’s it. And they’re absolutely not above swarming over the graves of newly dead kids in an attempt to guilt the nation into caving in to all of their demands.

    This is the kind of paranoid overreaction the rational world has come to expect. You are convinced that gutting the second amendment is just around the corner when even an attempt to ban “bump stock” recoil devices that allows semi-automatic rifles to mimic the rapid-fire of machine guns has failed.

    Steve Trickler

    It is mental illness. Take away guns .and they will build a bomb to kill the kids at school

    This is the favoured deflection du jour. On his own a mentally disturbed or an enraged individual can deliver a coward’s punch or injure one or two with knife or an iron bar. Does he have the patience or know how to build an effective bomb? I doubt it. He may decide to take out some pedestrians in a car but a car is not portable.

    When mentally disturbed individual is allowed easy access to a high powered rifle that instrument becomes extension of his will. A truly lethal combination.

    Why should law abiding citizens be stripped of the right to own them? Why should wackos dictate the narrative?

    Why should law abiding citizens have to be frisked and X-rayed at airports and almost everywhere else? Why should terrorists inconvenience the rest of us?

    Because it is in our intelligent self interest to do it.

  154. Peter Castieau

    Many thanks to those Cats who shared their thoughts on the GST. I’m hoping to prepare some policy around the GST but I am under no illusions as to just how difficult this will be!

  155. cohenite

    Because it is in our intelligent self interest to do it.

    No. It is in our best self interest to ban islam and allow self defence for solid citizens.

  156. Boambee John

    struth
    #2640796, posted on February 19, 2018 at 2:33 pm
    In another thread, they talk of property rights.

    What would state governments do to attract slaves if they had to compete for them if they found out the reason the slaves weren’t coming is because their local council’s rates are uncompetitive.
    No one wants to move their because there are too many regulations?

    Jo Bjelke Peterson conducted this experiment with Death Duties.

    The other states followed suit very quickly!

  157. C.L.

    Julian Assange mocks phony Mueller indictments …
    The Internet Research Agency was just a meme and audience creation outfit; they also ran kitten appreciation societies …

    Julian Assange DESTROYS Mueller: The Russians Also Ran Kitten Appreciation Groups – Was That Also a Plot to Divide America?

  158. DrBeauGan

    I’ve wondered for some time what sort of people think Lucille Ball was funny.

    And clowns. Do you laugh at clowns, CL?

  159. thefrolickingmole

    Viva.

    So you think wed be better served by paying billions to government agencies that ignore warnings about potential shooters?

    Weird.

    http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/police-called-to-florida-school-shooter-nikolas-cruzs-home-39-times-in-seven-years/news-story/5987fa6e88a11c9d8166511565834797

  160. struth

    Peter, I bluntly rave on here, but in all seriousness, the only way I can see Australia as a nation to be saved is through State based taxation.
    I use words like “slaves” to illustrate that nothing ever changes between human interaction, as any historian knows, even with technological advancement, and to cut through the shit and maybe make those that are just lurking think about how the game is really being played.
    What is really going on.
    Most Cats already know, so I would be wasting my time preaching to the converted.

    But we are partial slaves if we are private sector tax payers.
    We are forced to work for the government.
    They know it.

    The benefits of State based taxation and the resultant competition for “slaves” would have so many flow on benefits as to be devastating to the global socialist agenda, cultural Marxism and the big government state.
    It wouldn’t just fix the economy, it would fix the attack on our culture by the left.
    It’s impact would be a win on so many fronts outside of just competitive tax rates and resultant efficient government.
    It should be a definite aim of the Australian conservatives to take up this fight, IMHO.

  161. jupes

    I’ve wondered for some time what sort of people think Lucille Ball was funny.

    It’s slapstick Beaugy.

    Probably the highest form of comedy.

  162. Peter Castieau

    Well said struth.

    Sadly the establishment political parties don’t believe in competitive federalism and yes, I agree the outcomes would be amazing if it were truly embraced.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2640812, posted on February 19, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    Julian Assange mocks phony Mueller indictments …
    The Internet Research Agency was just a meme and audience creation outfit; they also ran kitten appreciation societies …

    It pisses me right off that Mueller is presented in some quarters – including so-called conservatives – as an honest broker, a “straight shooter” and an uninterested legal arbiter.
    FMD.
    Before accepting the Special Counsel role he would have seen the bullshit which had been put before the FISA court and would have known or suspected it was an attempted stitch-up.
    An “honest broker” doesn’t trawl through reams of transcripts looking for inconsequential inconsistencies to charge an innocent man with “lying to the FBI”.

  164. DrBeauGan

    It’s slapstick Beaugy.

    Probably the highest form of comedy.

    Oh dear. Just as well I don’t feel a need to fit in.

  165. struth

    They are taking guns into areas that ban guns to do their shooting.
    No one ever goes on a shooting rampage at a rifle club.

    Even when mussies shot up an army base it was because they knew the dumb fuckers at the top had all the weapons safely out of reach of the soldiers he was shooting.

    If you want to have a gun free zone in an area surrounded by guns, expect a fruitcake to bust in and start shooting every now and then.
    Banning guns…..How’s that working out in Australia?

    If you want a gun free zone in an armed zone, at least fence the joint off and stick an armed guard at the entrance.
    It’s almost as if lefties are purposefully sacrificing young lives, tempting the insane to go where they’re not going to be fought, in order to bring about the people (not gun) control they are desperate for.

  166. struth

    Sadly the establishment political parties don’t believe in competitive federalism and yes, I agree the outcomes would be amazing if it were truly embraced.

    Does that include Bernardi?

    I would have thought it would be right up his alley, although I can understand him not making it an issue yet.

  167. Confused Old Misfit

    Because it is in our intelligent self interest to do it.

    I think one has to look beyond the immediate situation before making that spurious claim.

  168. Rae

    Oh, how the pendulum swings.

    Point taken, but the last time Western Australia had the begging bowl out was 1969.

    Poor Old Sot. You are getting confused in your dotage. If you rearrange those four numbers to 1996 you will be pretty close to when COAGs stats finally caught up with the WA mining boom. No complaints from the expatriate Engish up until and even after then. Not until the boom faded away in the new century and they realized that they and their state governments had wasted the proceeds and got themselves into a financial predicament.

  169. Habib

    With all the talk of slaves and the ability of states to attract same, I’d say a more likely recruitment tool would be the old-fashioned way. Given the southern rust-belt states already have a ready workforce with extensive experience in such recruitment drives in the middle east and africa, most of whom are currently either under-utilised or idle, I’m sure the capable governments in those jurisdictions would mobilise these assets, and fill their shortfall quickly.

  170. egg_

    Looks like Lucille’s balls* are running Lord Waffleworth’s current one man Election campaign, Womens Weekly edition.
    I feel a noseplant coming on.

    *Trumble’s are in her purse?

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dylan Voller insists that he’s ‘no gangster’ despite latest run-in with WA authorities
    Tim Clarke | PerthNow
    February 19, 2018 8:56AM

    ONE of the Northern Territory’s most notorious young offenders, whose hooded and shackled image in jail sparked a royal commission, has claimed in an online message that he hates violence and is no “gangster” — despite now being in trouble with authorities in WA.

    Dylan Voller yesterday posted a 10-minute Facebook video apparently in response to the latest reports of his alleged bad behaviour revealed in The Sunday Times.

    Mr Voller gained worldwide attention as the boy in the spit hood, which was used on him as a 13-year-old by guards at Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre.

    When the vision aired publicly for the first time in 2016, it prompted Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to call a royal commission into the treatment of mainly indigenous youth in the NT’s detention facilities — with the $70 million inquiry uncovering evidence of torture.

    Now 20, Mr Voller is living in Perth, having been an active participant in local rallies against indigenous injustice and mistreatment since his release from prison last year.

    FMS, first the G.S.T., now we’ve got Dylan Vollers foisted on us. What did Western Australia ever do wrong to deserve this?

  172. stackja

    Very few here I assume have seen I Love Lucy. The early shows were very inventive.

  173. egg_

    Very few here I assume have seen I Love Lucy.

    Lucille Ball invented the sitcom and the three-camera-set still in use today.

    The troll’s daily distraction.

  174. calli

    Robber Baron
    #2640628, posted on February 19, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Please…someone…anyone…challenge Turnbull for the leadership. You will win!

    Then appoint him Chairman of the ABC. You know he won’t be able to resist it as he will try to use all it’s resources to tear down his opponents and glorify himself. And as we all know, Turnbull will destroy the ABC as he has destroyed everything else. Only Turnbull can decimate the ABC. You know this makes sense.

    What a cunning and surefire plan! I like it.

  175. egg_

    Then appoint him Chairman of the ABC.

    They deserve the brown finger of death.

  176. C.L.

    And clowns. Do you laugh at clowns, CL?

    Ahahahahaha.

  177. Rae

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  178. jupes

    Very few here I assume have seen I Love Lucy.

    It’s on Foxtel every night at the minute.

  179. marcus classis

    It’s almost as if lefties are purposefully sacrificing young lives, tempting the insane to go where they’re not going to be fought, in order to bring about the people (not gun) control they are desperate for.

    Yes, of course. This has been obvious for decades.

  180. egg_

    Given the southern rust-belt states already have a ready workforce with extensive experience in such recruitment drives in the middle east and africa, most of whom are currently either under-utilised or idle, I’m sure the capable governments in those jurisdictions would mobilise these assets, and fill their shortfall quickly.

    Their melatonin is well adapted to Shrub’s 45C working conditions?

  181. H B Bear

    Custard – plenty of votes in fixing the Federation if it is done right. First thing I would do is check the Alinsky rules and see how they might work in a State v State fight. For most States it is about keeping the revenue raised in their State. The problem lies with the two basket cases – Tasmania and Mainland Tasmania. In Tasmania the argument is to allow them to get back control over their own resources, primarily logging that they have traded away (and had imposed on them by the High Court in Tasmanian Dams) for dependency on Cth transfer payments. Mainland Tasmania is a true failed State – their State government has impoverished all of them.

    The starting point for fixing the GST is per-capita distribution. Any fiscal equalisation should be done by direct grants from consolidated revenue.

  182. Farmer Gez

    Speaking of old American comedies, I wonder what the Greens would make of the Honeymooners?
    “Alice, I’m warning you. One of these days…One of these days. Pow! Right in the kisser.”
    Pant wetting all round at mushroom headquarters.

  183. calli

    Another little known factoid about Lucille Ball – One for the Trekkies.

  184. Armadillo

    And clowns. Do you laugh at clowns, CL?

    No one laughs at clowns. They are downright creepy. They spend all their time at the circus being indoctrinated by the Giraffes [shudder].

  185. Boambee John

    LL at 1514

    It pisses me right off that Mueller is presented in some quarters – including so-called conservatives – as an honest broker, a “straight shooter” and an uninterested legal arbiter.

    Perhaps inadvertently, m0nty might have provided the most accurate assessment of Mueller.

    In comments on Saturday, m0nty said that Mueller would finish his investigation just before the mid term elections, and that there would be no direct move against Trump until the end.

    I don’t know if m0nty came to these conclusions himself, or got them from lefty US sites, but if accurate they clearly indicate that Mueller is following a political script aimed to assist the Demorats.

    m0nty would probably support this objective, but the idea that the secret police arm of the bureaucracy should interfere in politics should be anathema to anyobe who believes in genuine democracy. This excludes, apparently, parties of the political left.

  186. pete m

    GST – fairest rule is what each State raises each State keeps.

    If any State needs more funding then this is a matter for other revenue to sort out in usual Cth Grants distribution.

    On the issue of lower taxes = more revenue, this I generally agree with if we start at a high tax rate that caused avoidance and lower activity. However, at some point in a low tax regime, making them even lower will not raise revenue.

  187. EvilElvis

    However, at some point in a low tax regime, making them even lower will not raise revenue.

    Yep, but there’s a point where most of us are happy to contribute X amount of tax and a trimmed back public service can still provide essential services not requiring a repressive tax regime to fund it.

    I would not want to pay no tax and be rich beyond my wildest dreams and end up dying in a coke fuelled orgy involving Serena Williams and Hillary Clinton in a hot tub. Just saying, I’m charitable like that.

  188. stackja

    jupes – foxtel Lucy? Almost tempted to subscribe.

  189. Leigh Lowe

    Boambee John

    #2640886, posted on February 19, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    …..

    Perhaps inadvertently, m0nty might have provided the most accurate assessment of Mueller.

    In comments on Saturday, m0nty said that Mueller would finish his investigation just before the mid term elections, and that there would be no direct move against Trump until the end.

    I don’t know if m0nty came to these conclusions himself, or got them from lefty US sites, but if accurate they clearly indicate that Mueller is following a political script aimed to assist the Demorats.

    Yes, I did see that BJ, and that was one of the things that got my head shaking.
    In one breath lefties talk about “straight-shooter” Mulester, and in the next they talk about how he will frame and time his report to cause maximum damage to Trump.

  190. areff

    the grey haired old duffers at Quadrant

    After that cruel jibe it will soon be a case of ‘a free bottle of Grecian 2000 with every subscription’.

    Anyway, some are merely balding — in a handsome and dignified sort of way, it need hardly be said.

  191. egg_

    They spend all their time at the circus being indoctrinated by the Giraffes

    The Loop’s hostess was wearing a Giraffe costume on last week’s show.
    Cue Twilight Zone music.

  192. Norman Church

    No complaints from the expatriate Engish up until and even after then. Not until the boom faded away in the new century and they realized that they and their state governments had wasted the proceeds and got themselves into a financial predicament.

    Whether WA governments have been spendthrifts or thrifty is utterly irrelevant to the question as to whether the distribution requires reform. And the system hardly promotes fiscal prudence. To the contrary, it rewards inefficiency and poor management. At least for every other state and territory in the Commonwealth.

  193. stackja

    GST was supposedly to replace all state duties. GST can’t be avoided. So abolish all income tax. Any shortfalls mean a smaller public service. Barton’s ministry was sufficient, any other just waste, we don’t need it.

  194. Viva

    It’s almost as if lefties are purposefully sacrificing young lives, tempting the insane to go where they’re not going to be fought, in order to bring about the people (not gun) control they are desperate for.

    So as the bodies of American kids pile up I see your side of the argument thinks it is perhaps a good time to get in first with finger pointing. Believe me I defer to no-one in my contempt for the Democrats. But this is crazy talk.

  195. struth

    However, at some point in a low tax regime, making them even lower will not raise revenue.

    They really don’t need that much.

    Then you get into semantics about growth in general.
    When does too much business investment become enough, and population.
    One dollar of tax per person on a million people employed in the private sector, or $50 per 1000 people, because you have no industry, and everyone else bludging.
    It won’t take long for a state needing to be competitive to rediscover basic maths.

    Oh, to have those worries.
    We get the population without the business investment.

  196. Honeymooners best one liner – Ralph getting angry at Alice’s telephone conversations with her French lover, Harry Fiderci.

  197. C.L.

    It pisses me right off that Mueller is presented in some quarters – including so-called conservatives – as an honest broker, a “straight shooter” and an uninterested legal arbiter.

    That’s because he has a first class military record as a combat platoon leader (USMC) in Vietnam.
    And I do mean first class. Conservatives are reluctant to believe such a figure could be venal, sycophantic, jaded, vain, gullible or bent.

    But the truth is Mueller is deeply corrupt vis-a-vis this matter. Indeed, never before has such a tainted investigator been appointed to such a role. There is no Wussia collusion to be found – which he knows very well. He only ‘found’ 13 Wussians (who, conveniently, cannot and will not ever be tried) to furnish a weird post hoc pseudo-proof justifying the illegal FISA warrant and illegal wiretapping of Trump. He found them at a Radio Free Europe website, according to reports emerging today.

  198. Boambee John

    LL at 1646

    Yes, I did see that BJ, and that was one of the things that got my head shaking.
    In one breath lefties talk about “straight-shooter” Mulester, and in the next they talk about how he will frame and time his report to cause maximum damage to Trump.

    I challenged m0nty on his source, he said it was Henry Kissinger! This suggests thst he just made it up, but the attitude that police partisan interference in politics is fine (as long as it is in support of the left) is more evidence that within every lefty is a totalitarian fascist struggling to get out.

    Sinistra delenda est!

  199. JC

    Remember how climate change was killing the world frog population? Remember how alarmists were telling us frogs were the canary in the coal mine alerting us of the coming annihilation as result of gerbil warming?

    Well, scientists are killing these frog populations by spreading fungus.

    Starting in late 80s, herpetologists began noticing that various kinds of frogs were declining and/or disappearing. There was & is a geographical pattern: Wiki says “Declines have been particularly intense in the western United States, Central America, South America, eastern Australia and Fiji. ” Many were hard to understand in terms of human impact. “For example, the Golden toad (Bufo periglenes) endemic to Monteverde, Costa Rica, featured prominently. It was the subject of scientific research until populations suddenly crashed in 1987 and it had disappeared completely by 1989.[9] Other species at Monteverde, including the Monteverde Harlequin Frog (Atelopus varius), also disappeared at the same time. Because these species were located in the pristine Monteverde Cloud Forest Reserve, and these extinctions could not be related to local human activities. ”

    For a few years the herpetologists were concerned yet happy. Concerned, because many frog populations were crashing and some were going extinct. Happy, because confused puppies in Washington were giving them money, something that hardly ever happens to frogmen. The theory was that amphibians were ‘canaries in a coal mine’, uniquely sensitive to environmental degradation.
    Possibly frogs were being killed by an increase in UV radiation (from CFCs). Of course you could always put out a fucking ultraviolet photometer and measure the UV anywhere and anytime you wanted, but that would be the easy way out. Why do that when you could be paying graduate students to play with frogs?

    In 1993, people discovered an odd fungus [ Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis] infecting frogs in Queensland. Since then it has been linked to many dramatic population declines in “western North America, Central America, South America, eastern Australia, East Africa (Tanzania) and Dominica and Montserrat.” Some species it bops, others it exterminates. Frog species with few offspring and high parental investment, such as mouth-breeding frogs, seem particularly vulnerable. It works like an STD, which can propagate when population density is low. Frogs congregate in ponds to mate, which allows transmission, as long as the frogs mate at all.

    It took some time for herpetologists to admit that this chytrid fungus is the main culprit – some are still resisting. First, it was a lot like how doctors resisted Semmelweiss’ discoveries about the cause of puerperal fever – since doctors were the main method of transmission. How did this fungus get to the cloud forests of Costa Rica? On the boots of herpetologists, of course.

    H/T Steve Sailer.

  200. Bruce of Newcastle

    Big in Arizona…

    Waymo’s “Uber-Killer” Robo-Taxi Set For Arizona Rollout

    Waymo, a unit of Alphabet, is set to launch a ride-sharing service similar to Uber, but with no human driver behind the wheel. Officials in Arizona granted Waymo a permit to operate as a transportation network company (TNC) across the state on Janurary 24, following the company’s initial application on Janurary 12, Bloomberg reported.

    The imminent release of a robotic fleet of fully autonomous Chrysler Pacifica minivans could be flooding the highways of Arizona, causing major headaches for Uber.

    This could be fun to watch. Especially since Waymo is owned by Google who aren’t even the slightest bit evil. Will climate sceptics be run over a cliff? Will righties be taken to a big black building for re-education? It reminds me of this sequence…

  201. Gab

    Only 44 weekends until Christmas.

  202. Boambee John

    stackja
    #2640898, posted on February 19, 2018 at 4:53 pm
    GST was supposedly to replace all state duties. GST can’t be avoided. So abolish all income tax. Any shortfalls mean a smaller public service. Barton’s ministry was sufficient, any other just waste, we don’t need it.

    Custard

    One significant reform Australian Conservatives could introduce is to make tax more visible.

    Require that price tags and shop receipts identify the level of GST paid. End PAYE, instead have all taxpayers make quarterly payments to the ATO. Making a big payment four times a year, plus a final settlement that might or might not be a refund will be more painful than just receiving nett pay.

    When the amount paid is visible, people will start to focus on what they get for it. They might even start to go all Kerry Packer on their local member!

  203. DrBeauGan

    No one laughs at clowns. They are downright creepy.

    I agree. But I’m not sure CL feels that way.

    And what about Mr. Bean? Where do you stand on Mr. Bean?

  204. Leigh Lowe

    JC … what, if anything, do you know of a US investment house / retirement incomes provider “Brighthouse Financial”?
    I came across them doing a bit of an internet chase for annuities.

  205. struth

    So as the bodies of American kids pile up I see your side of the argument thinks it is perhaps a good time to get in first with finger pointing. Believe me I defer to no-one in my contempt for the Democrats. But this is crazy talk.

    Get in first?
    What’s this nonsense?
    As soon as it happened they screamed again about gun control.
    What drugs are you on?

    I am making the droll observation anyone with one smidgen of common sense would make.

    If people have guns, and you’ve created a society where you have through educational Marxism and other woes, created a population of depressed youngsters, confused and lacking any moral compass, and then you don’t defend areas you refuse to let people defend themselves, what’s going to happen?

    There are over 300 million people in the states and many more guns.
    Australia still has guns and shooting crimes.
    All the time.
    For God’s sake, if people want to get hold of a gun, it’s never going to be a problem.
    People can kill without guns.
    Lets see how many Australians are going to end up dead because their government took the guns off the good people.
    How many are dying in Venezuela right now, totally unreported and with a population that had it’s guns banned.
    How many are being shot while protesting their socialist government? By the government?
    Where would you feel safer, Venezuela or an American high school?
    If you look at the big picture and stop virtue signalling like an old poof actor reading Shakespeare, I again ask, why not get some armed security and a metal detector?
    De-arming the good people will cause more death and misery in the long run.
    History proves it.

  206. Macbeth

    Thanks Areff. I fit the latter description, although the signs of balding didn’t appear until I was about sixty, and that was 35 years ago.

  207. C.L.

    There do seem to be a lot fewer green frogs around these days.
    I love those little critters. Not sure what the explanation is. It makes sense that in the contemporary world a lot of bugs are spread by tourists and travelers to an extent unknown before in history. I’m not sure you could put the whole rap for this on frogologists, though.

  208. Boambee John

    CL at 170t

    He found them at a Radio Free Europe website, according to reports emerging today.

    Some reports suggest he found not only them, but also some of the wording of his indictment there.

  209. Top Ender

    Thanks Bruce – I met him this morning at the Commemoration:

    World War II veteran Mervyn Ey looks back on the Bombing of Darwin in sadness and in pride

    Only one bomber shot down in the first raid, and it came down well away from where he was. Then again another was damaged and crash-landed into the sea on the way back to the carriers. With everybody having a go they would have been likely hit several times.

  210. C.L.

    I agree. But I’m not sure CL feels that way.

    Could somebody give me an update on how I’m involved in the clown debate?
    ?

  211. struth

    And what about Mr. Bean? Where do you stand on Mr. Bean?

    Who’s standing on Mr Bean?

  212. Boambee John

    Peter Castieau
    #2640717, posted on February 19, 2018 at 1:08 pm
    West Aussie taxpayers prop up the mendicant States……

    True, the challenge is how do you fix this system when the rest of the country don’t really give a flying fk that they are on the take bigly?

    See my post at 1718.

  213. struth

    I’m not sure you could put the whole rap for this on frogologists, though.

    Just the French ones.
    Bon appe’tit

  214. struth

    Didn’t Fran Drescher try to rip off Lucy’s schtick?

  215. Rae

    JC, I wouldn’t get too excited about what Cochrane and Harpender have said on their blog, West Hunter. Maybe when they start publishing their theories for peer review through the Universities they are associated with they might be more credible.

    We have been to the cloud forests and other parts of Costa Rica. No-one there mentioned any concerns with any decline in the frog population. If there is such a thing then it may well be due to the many, many snakes that survive very well there on diets that include the consumption of frogs.

    Anyway, it’s bees that are on the decline right now. Worldwide.

  216. notafan

    Moley

    I’ve read both Flashman and Wodehouse.

    Enjoyed them both.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh

    Never heard of them.

    Part of MetLife.
    The more I look I think it might be a recent diversification out of a life insurance co.

  218. JC

    Part of MetLife.

    Huh, used to work in the building across the street from them….11 Madison Ave.

  219. Norman Church

    Peter Castieau – re GST reform

    I think per capita distribution of GST is cleanest, fairest and the most efficient method of distribution. Particularly as it removes the dead hand of the Communist Grants Commission from the process.

    Personally, I could stomach 5% of the overall pool being withheld from all of the states and redistributed along the lines of the Hilmer payments during the 1990s in return for recipient states enacting economic reforms.

    In that way, the system would reward efficiency rather than penalise it.

    State taxation as a means of encouraging competitive federalism is a great idea in theory. However, I think the Australian Conservatives would be courageous (in the Sir Humphrey Appleby sense of that term) to adopt such a policy.

  220. Top Ender

    Fun for all with Big Sol:

    Controversial Sydney property developer Salim Mehajer asked a Channel 7 reporter to join him in the back seat of a car before jamming her arm in the door, footage played in a Sydney court today shows.

    Footage played to Sydney’s Downing Centre Local Court shows a media scrum, including Channel 7 reporter Laura Banks, following Mehajer and asking him questions after he was released from Sydney’s Day Street police station in April last year, having been arrested for allegedly assaulting a taxi driver after a night out at The Star casino.

    Mr Mehajer can be heard saying “jump in, I’ll have a little chat to you,” before he shut the door on her arm.

    Earlier, on leaving the police station, Mr Mehajer had got in the back of a taxi, but, surrounded by the media scrum, the taxi driver refused to drive off.

    Banks was asking Mr Mehajer questions through the taxi window when Mr Mehajer took a microphone and sat on it, the court heard.

    Banks began videoing the scene on her mobile phone, which then fell into the car.

    Mr Mehajer, wearing a maroon suit, was ordered out of the taxi by a police officer.

    The property developer was then followed by the media scrum as he walked to meet an associate who had come to pick him up.

    Controversial ex-Auburn deputy mayor Salim Mehajer has been forced to repeatedly re-live in a Sydney court the moment he allegedly assaulted a reporter after a weekend arrest. https://t.co/uGep7hofq0 #7News pic.twitter.com/3QEtGBgfaG

    — 7 News Sydney (@7NewsSydney) 19 February 2018
    During that time Banks asked Mr Mehajer whether he had “hit rock bottom” and a reporter from The Daily Telegraph asked whether Mr Mehajer had “no mates” and “no chauffeur to pick you up?”

    Mr Mehajer can be heard responding to media questions, stating, “Will you have some respect? I am on the phone.”

    Under cross-examination by my Mr Mehajer’s lawyer, Philip Boulton SC, Banks said she continued asking questions because Mr Mehajer was “laughing and quite jovial”.

    She said she believed Mr Mehajer was not actually speaking to anyone on the phone because she could see text messages on its screen, indicating no phone call was taking place.

    In the footage Mr Mehajer can be seen pointing to a ring being worn by Banks and saying “that’s ridiculous”.

    Banks agreed she had been briefly “offended” by the statement, which was apparent “by the look on my face”, but denied Mr Boulton’s suggestion it had motivated her to pursue Mr Mehajer more vigorously.

    Mr Mehajer subsequently said to Banks: “Why are you so attracted to me? Get back away from me.”

    Banks said she continued asking questions because Mr Mehajer was smiling and had made the comments in a manner that was “almost flirtatious”.

    Mr Mehajer can be heard saying “jump in the back seat”, before Banks’ arm is jammed in the door.

    Banks told the court her hand was bruised and she suffered a back injury.

    Her injuries were not contested by Mr Mehajer’s counsel.

    Mr Mehajer, who is currently in custody after being arrested last month over alleged insurance fraud, told the court he felt “cornered, bullied and harassed” when the media pack pressed him. “It was horrendous,” he said. “I didn’t want to face the media.”

    Asked whether he intended to catch Banks’s arm with the car door, he replied: “Absolutely not. It all happened very quickly. My only thought was to leave.”

    The property developer, and former deputy mayor of Auburn in Sydney’s west, was wearing a suit and appeared to take notes of the proceedings.

    The hearing continues.

    Additional reporting: AAP

  221. thefrolickingmole

    Curse those West Australians only exploiting their iron ore reserves after the ban on mining them for export was overturned (a federal ban I might add)

    WA should never have joined federation.
    Parker, the Western Australian representative sent by Forrest to observe proceedings, watched as the Australian Constitution Act was sent through the House of Commons, passed and sent for royal assent even before Western Australia had agreed to hold a vote on the issue.

    And they should have been kicked out for being such a drain.. oh..

    On 8 April 1933 the people of Western Australia voted to secede from the Commonwealth of Australia by a margin of more than two to one. The result represented a culmination of nearly three years of intensive campaigning by the Dominion League during the height of the Depression.

    Voting patterns indicate that a solid majority of voters in most districts voted yes to the question “Are you in favour of the State of Western Australia withdrawing from the Federal Commonwealth established under the Commonwealth of Australia Constitutional Act (Imperial)?” The only area to reject the call to secede was the goldfields. It accepted an alternative proposition, rejected and ridiculed by secessionists, to call a national convention to alter the Australian Constitution.

    http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/federation/index.htm

  222. Struth,
    You must have missed the female student from the Florida school who pointed out the shooter could not have killed so many if he only had a knife. It takes a bit more guts and close up work to kill multiple people with a knife. Ok I know those intent on causing multiple deaths can use cars etc but the abundant weaponry and ammo and lax legislation is clearly a factor in USA.

    There is no solution in USA because even if all gun sales stooped tomorrow there are something like 300 million already out there.

  223. testpattern

    17 Feb marked the 150 years since the first Flying Foam massacre, genocide of the Yaburara in the Pilbara. The massacres continued for some weeks and into March. The massacres were ordered by Government Resident and Chief Magistrate of Roebourne, Robert Sholl. Having murdered many the remainder were sold into slavery, Sholl himself benefiting personally.

    Sub Inspector Piesse in a police report on conditions in the North West in 1873 wrote to Governor Weld –

    ‘The natives fear Mr Sholl will put them in prison if they refuse to serve his sons who are pearlers… native men and women are kidnapped…and practically taken into slavery’.

    ‘It is very well known by all old hands about Nickol Bay, and the ‘Flying Foam Passage’ that in one day there were quite sixty natives, men, women, and children, shot dead. The natives themselves have shown me the skulls of fifteen who were shot. Three of the skulls were those of children; and two of those small skulls had bullet holes through them. I have seen many natives shot in the back for no other cause than that of running away from their cruel slave masters.’

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79970484?

  224. H B Bear

    the grey haired old duffers at Quadrant
    After that cruel jibe it will soon be a case of ‘a free bottle of Grecian 2000 with every subscription’.

    Thought that one might drag them out. Relax areff, it’s practically a compliment around here.

  225. JC

    ……but the abundant weaponry and ammo and lax legislation is clearly a factor in USA.

    Okay Rooster, so explain how any proposed gun control laws would have prevented any of the last several mass killings.

    Let’s also keep in mind that if the current laws were properly followed the last killer would have been stopped. This in itself suggests these laws to some extent are useless if law enforcement can’t be bothered.

    Go!

  226. H B Bear

    So you missed the Flying Foam massacre after all that Testes? Hope you weren’t asleep in the river bed with the relatives. Wrong time of the year for that. Stick to the South Hedland Liquor Land carpark and you should be safe.

  227. On 8 April 1933 the people of Western Australia voted to secede from the Commonwealth of Australia by a margin of more than two to one.

    For some reason mention of this secession vote always omits what the 2 – 1 voted for as an alternative.
    Gee, wonder why?

  228. H B Bear

    Van Badass on Teh Dumb.

    The ALPBC needs a wider frightbat roster.

  229. Bruce of Newcastle

    Having murdered many the remainder were sold into slavery, Sholl himself benefiting personally.

    Very odd since the British Empire abolished slavery in 1833 over thirty years before.
    I’m not sure if my gt^5 or 6th grandmother lived to see that day.
    She was a slave on a sugar plantation in Jamaica.

  230. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WA should never have joined federation.
    Parker, the Western Australian representative sent by Forrest to observe proceedings, watched as the Australian Constitution Act was sent through the House of Commons, passed and sent for royal assent even before Western Australia had agreed to hold a vote on the issue

    My understanding, and I don’t have a link, is that John Forrest was told outright by the British Colonial secretary that, if Western Australia didn’t join federation, the Goldfields around Kalgoorlie would be formed into a new colony, which would join federation, and the coastal districts could sink or swim.

  231. egg_

    TheirABC News trying to stir the possum on Nats leadership.
    Yawn.

    Christensen to Mud Wrestle SHY in battle of the land whales?

  232. Ok I know those intent on causing multiple deaths can use cars etc

    Especially if they pack those cars with fertiliser & diesel.
    Like the Oklahoma bomber did.
    9/11 killed the most of all. It was done with a Stanley knife.

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