Open Forum: February 24, 2018

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  1. Bruce of Newcastle

    An electric train is moving north at 100mph and a wind is blowing to the west at 10mph. Which way does the smoke blow?

    East.
    The coal-fired power station is usually far enough away to be on the other side of the weather system.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Poor Mal, now the headlines tonight will be about him bundled off by Secret Service heavies. …

    Immediately after lecturing the masses from behind a. bullet-proof screen on why we don’t need guns.

  3. hzhousewife

    Thrilled for you Dr Fred !

  4. Tim Neilson

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2644896, posted on February 24, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    Great news Dr Fred. When you’re back into the full creative swing, post some of your pictures here on the Cat for us.

  5. egg_

    Just about any liter bike is going to out-accelerate it and destroy it on top end. Some more recent smaller engines probably can too. A cruiser would need some heavy modifications but they’re out there.

  6. johanna

    The inevitable outcome of multiculturalism. Your generation supported this.

    Oh, stop the whining and lying.

    My generation were never asked whether we supported it or not, nor were any other generation. It was and is foisted on us by the Uniparty.

  7. Chris

    Thank Christ.

    Why thanks Egg.
    I have carried at the right moments, in the right countries, and caused no harm.
    People who carry generally walk on egg shells.

  8. EvilElvis

    If anybody wants to find out what is creating these mentally deranged children they need to start with a school system that crams three thousand of them into one school, and importantly, the mass scale systems of control that are in place to make such a thing work.

    Works ok in China?

    In respect to the security guard surely you’d empty the clip and give yourself a ‘flesh wound’ on the way out? Just to maintain a mystique of integrity?…

  9. calli

    Egg_! I’m no rev-head, but isn’t that all about power to weight ratio?

  10. Eyrie

    FFS it’s an ELECTRIC train. No smoke.

  11. calli

    Eyrie, we’re lateral thinkers here at the Cat. The smoke in the question existed, so it must have come from somewhere.

  12. egg_

    Chris
    #2644925, posted on February 24, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    Keep up the maiming shit and the Libertarians will likely ban you for bringing the blog into disrepute.

  13. lotocoti

    In respect to the security guard veteran police officer …

    Fixed for no charge.

  14. Dr Fred, thanks for the update.
    I thought someone had stolen your non de plume and was typing correctly. (Well, nearly correctly)
    Keep up the good work.

  15. egg_

    isn’t that all about power to weight ratio?

    EV’s have the advantage of a flat torque curve, so relatively quick off the mark – internal combustion engines have a torque curve with a peak higher in the rpm, hence the electric bike (ego) is quicker off the mark than the ICE bike (beemer) – top speed will be higher on the beemer.

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh, I don’t know Stimpson, maybe a real man who can acknowledge that his woman is at least as good a shot as he is, and on some days she’s even better. Why else would my man have bought me that lovely Glock and speed rig all those years ago?

    Please don’t shoot me.

  17. egg_

    FFS it’s an ELECTRIC train. No smoke.

    Could be some bird crap on the braking resistors.

  18. At that moment I forgave all those hours freezing on the sidelines watching church rugby.

    Perp has a choice between ruff tuff cops or a veteran of church rugby?
    It’s a no brainer. I’ve seen those games between adherents of muscular Christianity.

  19. RobK

    “I’m no rev-head, but isn’t that all about power to weight ratio?
    It’s because electric motors have maxium torque at very low revs (near stall) and no clutch.

  20. Stimpson J. Cat

    Had cataract operation Wednesday , my specialist and I are both astonished at the difference made to my sight ,reading the bottom lines of eye chart with ease now,started on a new painting landscape , , seeing as Iwell as I do now has lifted my confidence in my painting ability ,’its a great feeling ,?I can recommend it . Painting this morning ,back to the speed and surety I had years ago . At eighty still I’m painting like my hero Monet ,but unlike him my cataract surgery worked well his didn’t . Amazing how bright colours are it’s a great lift to my confidence in my painting ability ,tremendous feeling .I can thoroughly recommend having it done If you have that condition ,no pain no discomfort and no painkillers .

    Fred this is a wonderful opportunity to wear an eye patch and make pirates great again.

  21. JC

    “The whale is angry today, my friends”.

  22. RobK

    Variable frequency drives used to control electric motors can generally output 140% or so of rated torque near stall conditions (for a little while).

  23. Stimpson J. Cat

    The only thing more dangerous than a wamen with a gun is a wamen with a gun and no sense of humour.

    😁

  24. calli

    Thanks guys. This place is better than Top Gear.

  25. Stimpson J. Cat

    One was a Harley, one was a Japanese number.
    The Tesla easily beat both over the next 100 + meters.

    Yes but Harley’s and Japanese numbers are not gay.

  26. Baldrick

    Wow. So not one, not two, not three, but FOUR Sheriff’s Deputies from the Broward Police Dept sat in the parking lot, refusing to engage with the shooter at the school. And on top of this the FBI received dozens of tip offs about the shooter.

    Everything that’s wrong with the Broward County Sheriff’s Dept and their Chief, in one picture.

  27. Oh, I don’t know Stimpson, maybe a real man who can acknowledge that his woman is at least as good a shot as he is, and on some days she’s even better. Why else would my man have bought me that lovely Glock and speed rig all those years ago?

    Please don’t shoot me.

    Oh Stimpy, why on earth would I do that? You’ve never pissed me off. 😉

  28. Baldrick, my mind is boggling at the images of what she is holding in her right hand, just out of shot.

  29. struth

    Oh, stop the whining and lying.

    My generation were never asked whether we supported it or not, nor were any other generation. It was and is foisted on us by the Uniparty.

    Good Moaning(just)

    I haven’t scrolled back to find out what this is about but it doesn’t matter, I agree with everything said here.
    People talking about generations are collectivists for a start.
    Secondly, who gets a say on anything Australia has done regards the Marxist attacks on it?

    Immigration, safe schools, aboriginal land rights, and other associated bullshit, excessive regulation, agreements with the U.N.?

    Oh that’s right, we get to participate in a rigged voting system every now and then.

  30. Tom

    Calli, why was Jack Nicholson running at you with an axe?

  31. Baldrick

    A cigar, that’s where I’d put my money OSC. 😸

  32. Jo Smyth

    The CTH is running an article showing Pres. Trump and Turnbull at their Press conference. The comments below the article are informing the American public that in Australia, Turnbull is not popular with the Party he is supposed to represent. Quite amusing.

  33. Baldrick

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2644896, posted on February 24, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    Had cataract operation Wednesday , my specialist and I are both astonished at the difference made to my sight …

    Good on ya Fred. Hopefully it’ll mean more posts from you.

  34. EvilElvis

    Yes but Harley’s and Japanese numbers are not gay.

    Fact check – True!

  35. calli

    Calli, why was Jack Nicholson running at you with an axe?

    A very dusky Jack Nicholson, who had looted said axe during a riot. He thought he’d take a shortcut through my place but ended up in the black moriah.

  36. RobK

    Well done Fred. Best news story today. The marvels of modern society.

  37. struth

    Had cataract operation Wednesday , my specialist and I are both astonished at the difference made to my sight …

    Good on you Fred, that’s great to here.
    Don’t use this improved vision to look to closely at the world around you, you may not like what you see.

  38. Chris

    Keep up the maiming shit and the Libertarians will likely ban you for bringing the blog into disrepute.

    What we have now is ISIS outsourcing terrorism to pathetic little arseholes.

    We meanwhile have media willingly acting as force multipliers for terrorists. We have mainstream media acting as willing recruits and energetic publicity agents for school shooters. I predict that we will see more crossover of the ISIS and school shooter fashions.

    How do you stop it? Not by candlelight vigils and avoiding demonising.

  39. Mark from Melbourne

    Had cataract operation Wednesday , my specialist and I are both astonished at the difference made to my sight…

    Well done Fred.

    My Mum had the same operation about 4 years back. First thing she did when the eyesight settled was sack her cleaner.

  40. struth

    Hear………………..for god sake, I hate getting old, what the bloody hell is going on?

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MINING & ENERGY
    Peter Mickelberg fascinated by gold despite stitch-up

    The Australian
    12:00AM February 24, 2018

    Paul Garvey
    Resources reporter
    Perth
    @PDGarvey

    Peter Mickelberg can see the irony. Decades after he was stitched up by corrupt cops and jailed over the infamous Perth Mint swindle — setting off a protracted series of legal battles that ultimately saw him and his two brothers formally cleared of any involvement — Mr Mickelberg just can’t stay away from gold.

    Speaking for the first time about his business interests, Mr Mickelberg has revealed his role in the establishment of the Singapore Precious Metals Exchange and his investment in Pilbara gold nugget play Artemis Resources.

    “I have got an interest in gold, which sometimes makes people laugh, but it is what it is,” Mr Mickelberg told The Weekend Australian.

    Given he has spent the bulk of his adult life fighting to clear his name over the Perth Mint heist, it is Mr Mickelberg’s involvement as a member of the advisory board that helped set up a secure gold storage business in Singapore that stands out.

    SPME is a boutique business housed within the Singapore Free Port, a state-of-the-art, high-­security facility full of polished chrome and solid steel doors that resembles something out of a James Bond film.

    It is there that the world’s billionaires and tycoons can store their treasures, be it gold, artworks or vintage cars, and safely trade with other members of the global elite without the goods ever having to clear customs.

    “It appeals to a lot of Americans and Canadians who think the world is going to collapse and their gold will get seized. The guys who started (the exchange) tapped into that psyche,” Mr Mickelberg says.

    The Perth Mint swindle marked one of the most remarkable chapters in Western ­Australia’s history. The saga, which has been turned into a television miniseries and is the subject of several books, is central to the story of police corruption in the state.

    The three Mickelberg brothers — Peter, Ray and Brian — were stitched up by the “Silver Fox”, the senior WA police figure and ­astonishingly crooked Don Hancock, and his colleague Tony ­Lewandowski over the 1982 heist of 68kg of gold. The gold would be worth more than $4 million at today’s prices and the case has never been solved.

    Hancock, who was implicated in the murder of brothel madam Shirley Finn at a recent inquest into her death, was killed by a car bomb in 2001 in what prosecutors failed to prove was bikie retaliation for the outback pub shooting of Gypsy Joker Billy Grierson.

    Hancock’s death cleared the way for Lewandowski to confess to fabricating evidence and framing the Mickelbergs shortly before his suicide, and in 2008 the state government offered the two ­surviving Mickelberg brothers (Brian had died in a plane crash in 1986) $500,000 each in ex ­gratia payments for the injustice done to them.

    It is clear though that Mr ­Mickelberg has gold in his blood.

    From the Oz.

  42. calli

    PNG?

    Yep. An interesting place.

  43. egg_

    How do you stop it? Not by candlelight vigils and avoiding demonising.

    Self reliance is at the core of most Rightwingers – vs the herd mentality of the Left.

  44. testpattern

    I’m Barnaby Sailorman [toot toot]
    I lives in a beetroot can,
    I dips my wicky a quicky with Vicky,
    I’m Barnaby Sailorman [toot toot]

  45. Bruce of Newcastle

    TP – so Barnaby’s secret is spinach!

  46. Chris

    Self reliance is at the core of most Rightwingers – vs the herd mentality of the Left.

    Perhaps, but the self-reliant also work in community. Fire Brigade , ambulance, workplace first aider and SES volunteering are great things.

  47. struth

    I have had to laugh at some of Knuckle Draggers comments regards women….
    Just yesterday……….
    I was loading into the RSL I played at last night and there was a well dressed woman outside the place smoke in hand, about 45 years old, phone in hand, and quite loudly talking on it.
    She knew I was there and so were others.

    She was saying, “No she didn’t say that really, get fucked, no way, the fucking bitch, no get fucked, stupid fucking mole, no just get fucked, oh fuck off, fuck right off, what a fucking mole, the fucking slag…..get fucked”

    I mean, I’ve been an interstate truck driver and I try not to be a hypocrite, as I am no angel either, but really?
    How fucking attractive, I thought to myself.
    Australia, oops, I’m standing in it.
    That was just the start.
    This RSL that I play in is always good for whale watching.
    One family was there early on in the night, and this big fat tattooed whale had her kids there with some young bloke with those gaping African style earrings that give you something to grab while punching, and the ode came on.
    Everyone stood in silence.
    Her kids did very well, but one youngster about 4 years old, muttered something during it, and when it was over she gave him a right old talking to .
    Mummy’s not happy, you don’t speak when the ode is on, you will show some respect young man.

    I could have kissed the fat bitch.
    Never judge a book by it’s cover, I suppose.

  48. EvilElvis

    I can’t believe I’m about to do this, but Testes, LOL

  49. feelthebern

    They still “do” the ode at RSL’s?
    Wow.

  50. Stimpson J. Cat

    Keep up the maiming shit and the Libertarians will likely ban you for bringing the blog into disrepute.

    Bow Tie Blockchain Bollards are the future my Libertarian children.

  51. rickw

    Wow. So not one, not two, not three, but FOUR Sheriff’s Deputies from the Broward Police Dept sat in the parking lot, refusing to engage with the shooter at the school. And on top of this the FBI received dozens of tip offs about the shooter.

    These are the same cretins that would say that no one needs a gun for self defence.

  52. Dr Fred Lenin

    During the cataract operation, I had a kalaedescope of colours and shapes floating before the eye being operated on , very interesting , the doctors were interested so I said I would do a few oil sketches while the visions were fresh in my mind . Did two today ,they are very interesting colourful and fine abstract art if you don’t know what the subject is , I have another two in my mind which ‘I will do tomorrow ,then I will frame them and present them to the lady surgeon, who is reputed to be the best in Australia ,she is interested as she has heard patients speak of the visions many times ,now she will know what mine were like . I am assuming different people would have different visions as there are a few representations on the internet , not as colourful as mine the ones I have seen. Perhaps artists have different visions . Many thanks for the good wishes and encouragement of other cats ,really appreciate them , proud to be asssociated with you all , you are a good bunch of people .

    \\\\of fek]low car

  53. testpattern

    ‘PNG?’

    Australia’s frontier wars in New Guinea

    An Australian returning from the Samarai and Mambare goldfields gave this advice to prospectors in WA in the 1890s, some of whom were leaving for New Guinea-

    ‘ There is no danger from natives at all. This may sound strange after the recent massacre of Mr. Green and his party, but we have yet to learn under what precise circumstances that terrible affair happened.’

    …and the circumstances –

    ‘..two parties of miners, one lead by a man named Clark and the other by Elliot, setting out from Australia to exploit the discovery.

    ..A short distance above the Tamata, all the party with the exception of Clark left their boat with their rifles in it and walked along the bank while the Mambare natives hauled it up a series of rapids by means of a long rope whilst Clark remained in the boat to steer it.
    Suddenly in the middle of the rapids the natives cut the rope, allowing the boat to drift rapidly downstream in the midst of a swarm of following canoes, manned by armed natives who at once launched a shower of spears against Clark, killing him. The remainder of the party drove off the natives with revolver fire, recovered their boat and fled downstream where they met Elliot’s party coming up.

    The two parties united forces and took vengeance by burning villages, cutting down coconuts trees and generally involving every tribe on the river in the murder and disturbance.
    Sir William Macgregor hastily proceeded to the Mambare, some fighting took place and several arrests of natives were made including a man named Dumain.
    Sir William then decided to place a police post and magistrate on the Mambare to control the miners and natives and for this work he selected John Green.’

    HOW MY GRANDFATHER KILLED MR. J.GREEN

    http://exkiap.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=275

  54. EvilElvis

    Oh, testes. You were going so well.

  55. testpattern

    ‘so Barnaby’s secret is spinach!’

    But it takes beetroot to make a Swee’pea with Olive Oyl!

  56. Dr Fred Lenin

    Can someone tell me how to post pictures on catallaxy from an iPad Pro ? Thanks folks.

  57. struth

    They do them in all the ones I’ve ever been in.
    Are there ones that don’t, besides maybe the big Sydney type of RSLs?

    I love playing RSL.
    A great laugh.
    I don’t start until after the ode but I’m usually hanging around for it.
    These days, I must admit to it being even more special to me.
    Afterwards,Half way through your song it’s either “the courtesy bus will be leaving in five minutes” or in other RSL’s it might be the constant calling out of meal numbers.
    You can actually use that to your advantage if on to it.

    I do things like stop singing while they are announcing and reply to the announcement with the next line, you know, keeping in with the song, and rhyming if lucky with last line.
    That’s the great thing about no sequenced backing, you can stuff around endlessly.
    I long ago realised Australians would rather be laughing in those places, than taking their music seriously.
    And so would I.
    If you can back it up with good music as well, all the better.
    Nope, give me a nice air conditioned Rissole to play in any day of the week.

  58. RobK

    Dr Fred,
    I can’t but I’d like to see your work of that experience.

  59. RobK

    Fred, maybe you can email it to Sinc.

  60. H B Bear

    Is Testes a writer for some of those ALPBC comedy shows? Not sure he is even funny in Melbourne.

  61. struth

    Good Lord….
    That’s done it.
    Look at Dr Fred Lenin now.
    Surely that’s not the same person?

    I’m not sure if I like this new situation.
    The correct grammar percentage has climbed enormously forcing one to re- evaluate one’s own lazy, lack lustre performance.

  62. C.L.

    So you wouldn’t have dug Altamont, Struth? 🙂

  63. struth

    So you wouldn’t have dug Altamont, Struth?

    Nope, quite at home with “477 your meals are ready” as being the major disturbance.

  64. calli

    Three times a month she goes to dinner and then has sex with two different men, in exchange for their financial support. She has been in a “relationship” with one of then men for two years and the other for five months.

    So she’s a prostitute with a couple of “regulars”.

    How innovative!

  65. struth

    Nope, quite at home with “477 your meals are ready” as being the major disturbance.

    Sorry.
    That should have read.

    No, but thank you for you question, C.L.
    I find the minor disturbances of nasal waitresses declaring the state of readiness of food over a Public Address system, to be a highly acceptable situation compared to playing a violent alternative rock festival, where people’s lives have actually been taken.

  66. Tom

    I’d like to see your work of that experience.

    Me too, Dr Fred.

    Find out how to digitise the painting/s as a large image.

  67. Rae

    Is this the same Cath Marriott who was involved in the campaign to get Cathy McGowan in to Parliament?

    No. Try this Cath Marriott

    Truly Helen, a pathetic effort. You too, Viper.

  68. Roger

    Poor peoplekind of Canada can’t take a trick:

    While their leader is making a fool of himself – and by extension them – strutting the stage in India in fancy dress, their ice hockey team has suffered defeat at the hand of the Germans in the Olympic semi-final.

    A crisis of national self-confidence beckons.

  69. stackja

    Does sex university student pay taxes?

  70. C.L.

    Struth, you’re living the dream. The clubs are lucky to have you.

  71. zyconoclast

    The Queensland Resources Council is too polite.

    Policy surprises tarnish Queensland’s investment appeal

    23 February 2018
    Queensland’s attractiveness as an investment destination for mining has dropped out of the global top ten according to a report from Canada’s Fraser Institute.

    Queensland Resources Council (QRC) Chief Executive Ian Macfarlane said the clear message is that global investors have marked Queensland down because of policy uncertainty.

    “Investors don’t like surprises, which is why the sector is always talking about the need for policy certainty”, said Mr Macfarlane.

    “The Queensland Government needs to be aware investors are watching every potential change in policy as having a direct impact on the investment profile of the State.

    “The clear challenge in the year ahead is to deliver policy certainty that investors expect. A stable regulatory environment is the only way to see Queensland recognised as the best mining jurisdiction in the world.”

    On a positive note, Queensland continued to receive recognition for its quality mineral deposits moving up one spot to number three in the world —leapfrogging WA to become Australia’s most geologically prospective jurisdiction.

    “Queensland’s geological assets are globally well known, with one of the richest and diverse mineral provinces in the world, including the North West Minerals Province, bauxite across Cape York and some of the best quality coal,” Mr Macfarlane said.

    “We have the geology the world wants, investors just need to see a steady hand on the policy lever.”

  72. zyconoclast

    Annual Survey of Mining Companies: 2016 — Published on February 28, 2017

    This report presents the results of the Fraser Institute’s 2016 annual survey of mining and exploration companies. The survey is an attempt to assess how mineral endowments and public policy factors such as taxation and regulatory uncertainty affect exploration investment. The survey was circulated electronically to approximately 2,700 individuals between August 30th and November 18th, 2016. Survey responses have been tallied to rank provinces, states, and countries according to the extent that public policy factors encourage or discourage mining investment.

    A total of 350 responses were received for the survey, providing sufficient data to evaluate 104 jurisdictions. By way of comparison, 109 jurisdictions were evaluated in 2015, 122 in 2014, 112 in 2013, and 96 in 2012. The number of jurisdictions that can be included in the study tends to wax and wane as the mining sector grows or shrinks due to commodity prices and sectoral factors.

    The Investment Attractiveness Index takes both mineral and policy perception into consideration

    An overall Investment Attractiveness Index is constructed by combining the Best Practices Mineral Potential index, which rates regions based on their geologic attractiveness, and the Policy Perception Index, a composite index that measures the effects of government policy on attitudes toward exploration investment. While it is useful to measure the attractiveness of a jurisdiction based on policy factors such as onerous regulations, taxation levels, the quality of infrastructure, and the other policy related questions respondents answered, the Policy Perception Index alone does not recognize the fact that investment decisions are often sizably based on the pure mineral potential of a jurisdiction. Indeed, as discussed below, respondents consistently indicate that only about 40 percent of their investment decision is determined by policy factors.

    The top

    The top jurisdiction in the world for investment based on the Investment Attractiveness Index is Saskatchewan, which moved up to first from second place in 2015. Manitoba moved up to second place this year after ranking 19th the previous year. Western Australia dropped to third, after Saskatchewan displaced it as the most attractive jurisdiction in the world. Rounding out the top ten are Nevada, Finland, Quebec, Arizona, Sweden, the Republic of Ireland, and Queensland.

    The bottom

    When considering both policy and mineral potential in the Investment Attractiveness Index, the Argentinian province of Jujuy ranks as the least attractive jurisdiction in the world for investment. This year, Jujuy replaced another Argentinian province—La Rioja—as the least attractive jurisdiction in the world. Also in the bottom 10 (beginning with the worst) are Neuquen, Venezuela, Chubut, Afghanistan, La Rioja, Mendoza, India, Zimbabwe, and Mozambique.

    Policy Perception Index: A “report card” to governments on the attractiveness of their mining policies

    While geologic and economic considerations are important factors in mineral exploration, a region’s policy climate is also an important investment consideration. The Policy Perception Index (PPI), is a composite index that measures the overall policy attractiveness of the 104 jurisdictions in the survey. The index is composed of survey responses to policy factors that affect investment decisions. Policy factors examined include uncertainty concerning the administration of current regulations, environmental regulations, regulatory duplication, the legal system and taxation regime, uncertainty concerning protected areas and disputed land claims, infrastructure, socioeconomic and community development conditions, trade barriers, political stability, labor regulations, quality of the geological database, security, and labor and skills availability.

    The top

    For the fourth year in a row, the Republic of Ireland had the highest PPI score of 100. Ireland was followed by Saskatchewan in second, which moved up from 4th in the previous year. Along with Ireland and Saskatchewan, the top 10 ranked jurisdictions are Sweden, Finland, Nevada, Manitoba, Wyoming, New Brunswick, Western Australia, and Northern Ireland, which was included for the first time in the 2016 survey.

    The bottom

    The 10 least attractive jurisdictions for investment based on the PPI rankings (starting with the worst) are Venezuela, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Mongolia, Philippines, Indonesia, Chubut, South Sudan, Mendoza, and Ecuador. Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and Chubut were all in the bottom 10 jurisdictions last year. Two out of the 10 lowest-rated jurisdictions based on policy were Argentinian provinces.

  73. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL SECURITY
    Jihadis’ families in talks on return to Australia

    The Australian
    12:00AM February 24, 2018
    Paul Maley
    NATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR
    Sydney
    @paul_maley

    Australian government officials are negotiating the return of a “handful’’ of Australian jihadis and their families who remain caught in the Middle East following the collapse of Islamic State’s self-declared caliphate.

    A day after The Australian ­revealed the first Islamic State family had secretly been returned from the caliphate last year, it can be ­revealed that government officials are talking to a small number of women, believed to be the ­dependants of Australian jihadis.

    The NSW Department of Justice is also set to hold a two-day workshop in early April to prepare for a possible influx of jihadi families, many of whom are ­expected to return home now that the ISIS caliphate has been destroyed. The Weekend Australian has been told that the workshop will bring together ­bureaucrats from the departments of health, education, corrections and social services, as well as counter-terrorism police.

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    The workshop is a measure of how seriously officials regard the challenges posed by returning foreign fighters and their families, as well as an indicator of the scale of the problem.

    It comes as Australian government officials continue to talk to Australians caught in the conflict. The talks have been described as “fluid’’ and relate to a small number of the ­dependants of Australian Islamic State fighters, understood to be about three or four family groups.

    Yesterday The Australian revealed that a young mother and her three-year-old child were ­secretly returned to Australia in the middle of last year — the first case of an Australian child born in the caliphate returning home. The child’s Australian father was killed fighting, prompting his wife to flee with the couple’s child.

    Australian government officials say that up to 110 Australian fighters remain in the Syrian battlefield. Privately, however, they think the actual number is much lower, with an untold number of jihadis killed in the chaos of the Syrian war but their deaths unconfirmed.

    From the Oz. You need have no fear, the New South Wales Department of justice is holding a two day workshop on how to deal with returning jihadis……FMS!

  74. struth

    Struth, you’re living the dream. The clubs are lucky to have you.

    I would be if I was in my twenties and could play like I can now.
    But I’m 51 and getting arthritis in no other joint in my body bar the most important one.
    The index finger of my fret board hand (which is my right hand as I am a lefty).
    So I only have a limited time doing this, but it’s better than never having done it, so I am not complaining for a second.
    Playing around the traps of country Queensland is pretty good to, as Queenslanders are generally happy people and culturally more traditional, which is also a good thing.

  75. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sex three times a month for free rent, car and uni

    What is this Millenial Hooker Re-branding Malarky?

    Look, it’s a tragedy that none of these have wamen have met a man who appreciates them for their cooking, ironing, and shooting abilities instead of their bodies, like myself.

    Honestly I blame their mothers for this.

    Also Eat Love Pray.

  76. cuckoo

    Mentally ill woman known to Secret Service.

    Hillary?

    Depends. Was there an open container of alcohol in the vehicle?

  77. Mark from Melbourne

    Eat Love Pray

    What I say to SWMBO every time I cook, just without the punctuation.

  78. Stimpson J. Cat

    so I said I would do a few oil sketches while the visions were fresh in my mind

    Fred now that you can see it’s time to talk about commisions, paid for by the members of the blog.

    I would like to put forward two options, the first being the Mona Stimp, based on Da Vinci, the other The Birth of Stimp, based on Botticelli.

    One important point is that my hair must be a very particular shade of gold, if you use Gustav Klimt The Kiss as a reference you may possibly come close to capturing it’s lustrous glowing glory.

    In your own time.

    Thanks in advance.

  79. Caveman

    Fred may now possess the uncanny ability to run off a few Pollocks for some serious coin.

  80. Bruce in WA

    Oh, I don’t know Stimpson, maybe a real man who can acknowledge that his woman is at least as good a shot as he is, and on some days she’s even better. Why else would my man have bought me that lovely Glock and speed rig all those years ago?

    Mrs BiWA was out at the range one day and she was invited to ‘have a crack’ at the tenpins on the stand downrange (back when you were still allowed to shoot bowling pins). She’d never fired a handgun before. Handed a 9mm, shown grip and stance and with two ROs (one of them me) hovering, she swept the table, L to R, one shot, one pin. Cleared gun, handed it back.

    Owner, quite surprised, asked if she’d like another go.

    ‘No thanks’, she said sweetly. ‘Proved I could do it, so …’

    Only years later did she admit it was pure arse—which I knew but was never stupid enough to say 😀

  81. Stimpson J. Cat

    Only years later did she admit it was pure arse—which I knew but was never stupid enough to say 😀

    We often let them have these little victories Bruce.
    It’s because we love them.

  82. testpattern

    Looking good for Hexagon Resources McIntosh Graphite project between Warmun and Hall’s Creek –

    ‘Hexagon’s activities are largely concentrated on the McIntosh Graphite Project, located in
    the Kimberley region of north-east Western Australia..

    The downstream refers to additional value-add processing, to target specialty applications, including spheroidisation for battery anodes, the production of expandable graphite and purification for other higher and battery applications…the Company will be aiming at selling a range of high value, specialist
    products; this is a change in strategy from the PFS which was predicated on selling a single bulk concentrate into the battery anode market; another facet of this, which is critical to customers, is that McIntosh should be able to provide a long term and consistent supply of products.’

    https://hexagonresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/HXG-180128-Final-for-release.pdf

    https://hexagonresources.com/

  83. Roger

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    I’ve got a protocol for them: You made your bed, now lie in it.

  84. RobK

     she swept the table, L to R, one shot, one pin. Cleared gun, handed it back.
    Bruce, by any reasonable measure that is not “got lucky”.
    Dont argue with that woman.

  85. Habib

    Just saw an ABC headline item, apparently Degas twocked one of his own paintings. These illiterate, innumerate, ignoarant imbeciles seek to hector us on what we should think and believe. Rabz doctrine now.

  86. JC

    Shiny’s lookalike gets an award, but it’s not the Nobel.

    The AAAS Award To Michael Mann And The Sad Rot Of Government “Science”

    On February 17, the American Association for the Advancement of Science gave something called its “Public Engagement With Science” award to none other than Michael “Hockey Stick” Mann. Here is its announcement of the award. The AAAS claims to be the largest scientific organization in the world, with over 120,000 members.

    A few choice excerpts from the announcement:

    In the past year, Mann has had 500 media interviews and appearances and directly reached public audiences via social media. His op-eds and commentaries have been published in dozens of outlets. . . . He has also advised actor Leonardo DiCaprio, who spoke about climate change during a 2014 speech delivered to the United Nations.

    Mann, of course, is the guy who got caught red-handed engaging in clear scientific misconduct in connection with the Hockey Stick controversy — undoubtedly the scientific controversy with the largest potential for economic damage of our era. It is beyond incredible that the AAAS has not called him out for the misconduct, let alone that it has now chosen to give him this award.

    More here

    http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2018/2/22/the-aaas-award-to-michael-mann-and-the-sad-disintegration-of-government-science

  87. Bruce in WA

    Dont argue with that woman.

    I don’t.

    Well, not when she can hear, anyway.

  88. John Constantine

    We will never waver from our binding commitment, under signed transnational conventions, to pay eternal welfare to all rapejihadis and as large a families as they can claim.

    As tribute.

    Comrades.

    Of course, house price apartheid means the corpse buggering slavegirl pack rapers will not move in next door to anyone important.

    Or have their kids in class with the kids of anybody that lives protected by bollards.

    Plus we know the truly dangerous and important ones have been safely evacuated to the west with cover stories and identification as soon as the caliphate began to be Trumped.

  89. Baldrick

    The NSW Department of Justice is also set to hold a two-day workshop in early April to prepare for a possible influx of jihadi families, many of whom are ­expected to return home now that the ISIS caliphate has been destroyed. The Weekend Australian has been told that the workshop will bring together ­bureaucrats from the departments of health, education, corrections and social services, as well as counter-terrorism police.

    How to assist returnees seamlessly back onto the DSP and how to claim back-pay after your benefits were withheld due to your absence from Australia will no doubt feature prominently.

  90. Roger

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    Bear in mind this comes after even “experts” admitted they don’t know if deradicalisation programs work with jihadis (France recently closed their only state-funded program after concluding that it didn’t work).

    That’s quite a gamble Messrs. Dutton et. al. & assorted public servants are taking with our security so they can feel good about themselves for a while.

  91. What obligation is there to reintegrate such families? None that I can see.

  92. nemkat

    Just on those Broward County Deputies who stood by during the Massacre at Martha Gellhorn High:

    Is it correct to assume they are cowards?
    AFAIK, State Schools in the U.S. are Gun Free Zones, so legally they can’t enter armed, and unarmed, they are risking their lives.

  93. Roger

    What obligation is there to reintegrate such families? None that I can see.

    They’ve effectively pledged allegiance to another state, a terrorist state at that, and thereby renounced Australian citizenship. The only reason they now want to return to Australia is because their cause has been defeated, otherwise they’d still be happily ensconced in Syria/Iraq lording it over the locals, as a Syrian neighbour of Khaled Sharrouf described just this week.

  94. I seem to recall JC saying Trump is God quite a few times.

    According to today’s paper one of his proposals after the Florida shooting is to ban the sale of assault rifles to those under 21.

    Seems that Trump agrees with my view but JC does not think it a problem with 18 year olds being able to buy such weapons.

    The gun lobby guys must be upset. There were four trained good guys with guns at the scene who did nothing even when it was their job to protect those in the school.

  95. Habib

    This idiot, tin-eared government had the opportunity to do the right thing, follow public opinion, and show some bottle; as expected, they failed utterly. Once again they’ve behaved as we would expect the Greens to do. Dutton is allegedly a hard-arse conservative, what say Mrs Haaji and little Jihad Habibi get moved in next door to him. After all, when Curtin moved Kenpeitai family members into Hunters Hill in ‘42 he wore the opprobrium. Oops, that never happened. Even Labor hadn’t been retarded enough to import actual enemy combatants in whil still at war.

  96. Bruce in WA

    No, Nemkat, wrong.

    It is a violation of federal law for an off-duty LEOSA-qualified sworn officer to carry a gun within a school zone, which is defined in §921(a)(25) as “in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school” or “within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.”

    This does not affect on-duty police officers. Section §922(q)(2)(B)(vi) allows firearm carry “by a law enforcement officer acting in his official capacity.”

    It is also lawful for holders of concealed firearms licenses to possess firearms in school zones, as long as the license is issued by the state in which the school is located, and the licensee’s qualifications are verified by that state.

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How to assist returnees seamlessly back onto the DSP and how to claim back-pay after your benefits were withheld due to your absence from Australia will no doubt feature prominently.

    It’s the duty of all dhimmi’s to pay the followers of the One True God, their Jizyah, promptly..

  98. nemkat

    What was the legal status of the ISIS?
    Had Australia declared war on them?
    If not, then their status must be similar to Australians who went to Spain to fight on the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War..
    They ‘re a waste of space, but we’ve gotta take them back.

  99. Tel

    An electric train is moving north at 100mph and a wind is blowing to the west at 10mph. Which way does the smoke blow?

    Tel’s first rule of politics: the smoke always gets blown right up your fundament. Current wind direction doesn’t make a whole lot of difference.

  100. The gun lobby guys must be upset. There were four trained good guys with guns at the scene who did nothing even when it was their job to protect those in the school.

    Everybody is upset.
    Gun lobby guys coz there were trained men there with guns, who bottled out while kids were slaughtered.
    The anti-gun crazies are upset coz their narrative of blaming the NRA just took a dive. They’d rather kids be slaughtered without anybody to save them.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ASIO estimates that up to 70 Australian-born children have been caught up in the conflict, ­either because they have been taken there by their Australian parents or they were born to Australian fighters already there.

    All have a potential claim to citizenship and a right to return to Australia, and The Weekend Australian has been told a “handful’’ are now talking to authorities about doing so.

    More from the same article in the Oz. Is there no end to the stupidity?

  102. AFAIK, State Schools in the U.S. are Gun Free Zones, so legally they can’t enter armed, and unarmed, they are risking their lives.

    FMD.
    Kids were being slaughtered, by the goddamned dozen!
    The rule book just went out the window.

    Words have meanings. Have a quick stab at what the word “emergency” may mean.

  103. John Constantine

    Importing a cohort of desensitized trained and motivated jihadis will speed up the demand for an all powerful State Stasi intelligence and Death Squad.

    To protect our proles from our imported strength.

    Plus if a racist Australia refuses to serve our returning jihadis enthusiastically enough, all their relatives will hate us and refuse to sell us information about the next mass casualty attack.

    Comrades.

  104. nemkat

    Okay, so 4 of them could have taken some action, but decided not to.
    There could be a few reasons for that, apart from cowardice.
    That’s why a Trial is necessary in cases like this.
    Too many things don’t add up, and become grist for the mill of the Conspiracy Theorists and their buddies, the Coincidence Theorists.

  105. Habib

    They ‘re a waste of space, but we’ve gotta take them back. Bullshit. A craven government has to take them back. Vertebrates would declare them persona non grata, and tell them that they made their choice, live with it. And any whiners can go fuck thenselves. These cowards are our enemy.

  106. nemkat

    The rule book just went out the window.

    The Rule Book never goes out the window for Government Employees. And, aren’t you the bloke who is always whingeing about the cops harrassing you and your business?

    In any case, Bruce in W.A. answered my query at 3.18pm.

  107. calli

    Almost there.

    “We have made men proud of most vices, but not of cowardice. Whenever we have almost succeeded in doing so, God permits a war or an earthquake or some other calamity, and at once courage becomes so obviously lovely and important even in human eyes that all our work is undone, and there is still at least one vice of which they feel genuine shame. The danger of inducing cowardice in our patients, therefore, is lest we produce real self-knowledge and self-loathing, with consequent repentance and humility.”

    ― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

  108. The Rule Book never goes out the window for Government Employees.

    You seriously suggest that if 4 officers burst into the school & stopped the murderer, that they would be prosecuted for carrying their gun onto school property, or would they be prosecuted just for trespass?

    Seriously?

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    In the past year, Mann has had 500 media interviews and appearances and directly reached public audiences via social media.

    If you wonder why he does so many appearances…

    Mann Backtracks, Admits Charging Up to $10,000 for Speaking Appearances (2013)

    That’s a lot of moolah.

  110. Ubique

    A 4m Great White shark has disrupted the Rottnest Island Channel Swim. Around 100 swimmers were pulled from the water.
    During the scare, 72 new national and international swimming records were set. Such was the speed and momentum of the race leader, that his progress after crossing the finishing line was only arrested by the front bar of the Quokka Arms Hotel.

  111. twostix

    Works ok in china?

    I think this is a joke but i’m not sure.

  112. Okay, so 4 of them could have taken some action, but decided not to.
    There could be a few reasons for that, apart from cowardice.

    Name just one:………

  113. Habib

    Noahs being naughty on both coasts. Just as well that like hajjis and Abos they’re protected species. And they only ever kill commoners.

  114. nemkat

    You seriously suggest that if 4 officers burst into the school & stopped the murderer, that they would be prosecuted for carrying their gun onto school property, or would they be prosecuted just for trespass?

    A policeman in another U.S. State was sacked for declining to shoot an armed man recently.

    It was on the Cat in the last week or so.

  115. nemkat

    Name just one:………

    Ordered not to.
    That’s why a Trial is necessary in this case.

    Any other Distraction Squirrels this arvo, Serena?

  116. Stimpson J. Cat

    Who exactly do you sane Muppets all think you are talking to?
    I’m f$cking curious.
    Put the lobster back in the pot.

  117. Nick

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    Words fail me. The quote will next be raised at a coronial inquest, where the usual suspects will wonder ‘why’ the event occurred.

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    On the topic of the Broward deputy who hid.
    No one has mentioned the other half of the issue.
    The first half is the policy of not arresting precious petals for anything.
    That alone is enough to put pause to any deputy/security guard, since arresting Cruz would look bad.
    He instinctively thinks he’d lose his job.

    Then there’s the second half that everyone has missed.
    The second half is security guard George Zimmerman.
    Who in the course of almost being murdered shot dead the black kid trying to murder him.
    Then it started.
    Zimmerman is now Hitler in leftyland.
    He cannot show his face.
    He was given a new identity, it got so bad.
    His life was destroyed by the left…the same left who have a total lock on Broward.

    Now put yourself into the security guard/deputy’s shoes.
    If he acts he knows he will breach school district policy, he thinks if he offs Cruz he will be a pariah and will be forced to move to West Bumfuck and hide. And Cruz might shoot him dead too, which would be the least of his problems.

    On the other hand given the type of people Broward recruited as school cops he may well deserve everything he gets.

    But it’s awfully hard to act decisively when you’re afraid the bosses will crucify you like Zimmerman.

  119. Rae

    Words have meanings.

    Yes, they do. So, I have amended you earlier comment to say what it ought to have said.

    Parents are upset . They’d rather guns like the AR-15 not be available so kids will not continued to be slaughtered by crazies armed with them.

  120. They ‘re a waste of space, but we’ve gotta take them back. Bullshit. A craven government has to take them back. Vertebrates would declare them persona non grata, and tell them that they made their choice, live with it. And any whiners can go fuck thenselves. These cowards are our enemy.

    Quite correct. Those heading over there to join the ISIS and their caliphate spat on Australia, they made their choice to leave, to join an organisation totally at odds with everything Australia is and stands for. They have no place here. Let them rot where they themselves chose to go.

  121. egg_

    Zimmerman is now Hitler in leftyland.

    Contrast with the ‘trigger happy’ cop who shot the space cadet cupcake banging on the cop car boot FFS.

  122. They’ve effectively pledged allegiance to another state, a terrorist state at that, and thereby renounced Australian citizenship. The only reason they now want to return to Australia is because their cause has been defeated, otherwise they’d still be happily ensconced in Syria/Iraq lording it over the locals, as a Syrian neighbour of Khaled Sharrouf described just this week.

    My view exactly. If you effectively renounce your Australian citizenship by pledging allegiance to something like ISIS, you have renounced any supposed “right of return”. If you opt to join such an outfit, you have renounced any allegiance to this country, you no longer have a place here, the vast majority of people would not want you here and in fact see you as an enemy. You have made yourself an outcast from our country by voluntarily taking up with a terrorist organisation, and leading a life and following a creed that preaches our destruction. Bad decision on your part? Maybe you should have thought of that before spitting on my country. Bad luck, buster!

    Any invertebrate politician or bureaucrat who lets any of them back into Australia needs reminding who is paying them and exactly whose welfare they’re supposed to be working for. Time to bring back the public stocks and bags of rotting vegetables for these incompetents.

  123. twostix

    In a school with 3000 people you could throw a sharp stick and kill 17 people.

    The political left’s open abuse of children on this is depraved. They don’t care about children they care about getting a win at any cost to make themselves feel better aboit being driven out of political mainstream.

  124. nemkat

    Results of some research on Broward County:
    Includes Fort Lauderdale, Median Income $53,000, no stats on Race, but it looks purty White.
    Being a security guard/ Sheriffs Deputy at a school there wouldn’t be as risky as fishin for Lobster in the Bering Strait.
    On the other hand, someone on another site claimed there was a Training Exercise happening thereabouts at the same time.
    Could be quite a few explanations beside cowardice, that’s why a Trial is needed.

  125. Zatara

    Stopping a guy shooting schoolkids is not in anyone’s wildest dreams breaching school policy. Even in Broward County.

    There is no excuse for Deputy Peterson to not have immediately engaged the shooter.

  126. Bruce of Newcastle

    Broward wiki:

    The racial makeup of the county was 62.3% White, 17.1% Hispanic, 12.2% Black or African American, 5.07% Asian, 2.20% from two or more races, 0.66% Native American, 0.16% Pacific Islander, and 0.20% from some other race.

    Cruz was regarded as Hispanic.

  127. twostix

    The school is 58% white 20% mexican and 12% black. In other words a violent crime ridden multicultural shithole.

    Across the way west brownard high is 38% white and 47% mexican.

    Shitholes.

  128. nemkat

    The racial makeup of the county was 62.3% White, 17.1% Hispanic, …

    Cruz was regarded as Hispanic.

    Yeah, but they don’t differentiate between Marco Rubio Hispanic and Kid Gavilan Hispanic.
    I’d be guessin that there aint many Kid Gavilans in Fort Lauderdale.

  129. Name just one:………

    Ordered not to.

    You are officially a bigger fuckwit than Adam Bandt.
    “10 Adam Seven to base, semi-automatic weapons fire in Barack Obama Memorial High School, lots of screams, likely a mass murder in progess, All for deputies diverting from previous duties to save lives of thousands of high school kids and halt the perp”
    “Base to 10 Adam Seven, belay that, you are ordered to let that sicko twerp kill as many kids as he likes”
    “Okay boss, an order is an order, I’ll tell the fellers to re-holster their guns”

    Later at the funerals: “Screech… you assholes were outside with guns, while my little Pippi Longstocking was being shot dead…. I blame you…. I hate you….”
    “Er.. ma’am, we were told to sit outside & do nothing”
    “Oh, that’s okay then, orders are orders after all.”
    “Thank you ma’am, the time wasn’t wasted by the way, we had a half hour to eat our sandwiches in the school car park. Real sorry ’bout your daughter ma’am”
    “Don’t blame yourself Deputy, orders are orders. Really, I understand.”

  130. johanna

    Re the four cops who hid while the kids were being shot – Tucker Carlson made an interesting point about this.

    He said that if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered then and there.

    I agree with him. I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    What do others think?

  131. nemkat

    The school is 58% white 20% mexican and 12% black. In other words a violent crime ridden multicultural shithole.

    Hispanic doesn’t necessarily mean Mexican, and is very unlikely to in Florida, about as far away from Mexico as you can get and still be in the U.S.A..
    Most of these Hispanics are descendants of White Cubans who fled Castro back in the day.
    h
    Also look at the victims.
    Can’t see any blacks there.

  132. What do others think?

    There are times when you have to answer the “man call”. Even if it is the end of you.
    That was one of those times.

    They all squibbed.

    I’ll bet Broward County Sheriff’s Dept is already the butt of dozens of “Coward County” jokes.

  133. twostix

    A couple of minutes of browsing the headlines for the last 12 months in google news for that area confirms it: victim of open borders shithole.

  134. nemkat

    Serena at 4.46pm:
    Whilst i don’t wish to stop you while you are on a roll, Serena, what is your point?

  135. twostix

    Anyone south of america is mexican except chileans who earned the right to be called a real country.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I agree with him. I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    I’ll bet good money that, if one of them had stood up and said “I’m going in, are you guys going to back me up?” , all four would probably have gone.

  137. Whilst i don’t wish to stop you while you are on a roll, Serena, what is your point?

    You should put your defence of the snoozing Deputies to the parents of the dead kids.
    At the funerals would be a good time.

  138. Zatara

    Undocumented Alien with a Shotgun Threatens Rochester School: “I’m Going to Shoot All Ya Bitches!”

    Note that this one is 21. Cruz was 19. Both are adults and should have been nowhere near a school with students as young as 11-12. But hey, got to keep those ‘minority booted out of school’ stats down. Right school board?

    She is also one of Obama’s DACA darlings.

    The left has much to answer for.

  139. Habib

    What do others think? Depends on where the shootin’s happening. Any parliament? Cripes, I need a haircut. It must be lunchtime? Look, a dog with a puffy tail!

  140. Zatara

    I agree with him. I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    Seems the students and the coach saw it the same way.

    Senior Brandon Huff rushed to the building where the shooting was taking place when he found out his girlfriend was inside.

    She texted me, ‘There is a shooter in the room. I love you,’ so I freaked out. I dropped everything in my hands,” Huff said.

    “The school resource officer was behind a stairwell wall, just standing there, and he had his gun drawn, and he was just pointing it at the building,” Huff said. “Shots started going off inside, and you could hear them going off over and over again.”

    “He was pointing his gun at nothing. He was pointing his gun just at the building with kids in it, and he was just talking on the radio, and he never did anything for four minutes,” Huff said.

    “He’s the only one with a gun,” Huff said. “He’s wearing a bullet proof vest, he has all that while school security guards, coaches were running in shielding kids — Coach Feis, Hixon were running in, shielding kids from bullets and losing their lives while he did nothing.”

    Amid a flurry of bullets fired from Cruz’s AR-15 rifle, the school’s 37-year-old football coach, Aaron Feis, sprang into action, diving in front of students to shield them, says Huff.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Barnaby Joyce takes a $200,000 pay cut as he steps aside

    The Australian
    12:00AM February 24, 2018
    Rick Morton
    Social Affairs reporter
    Sydney
    @SquigglyRick

    Barnaby Joyce will lose more than half his annual salary, or $213,000, when he resigns as Nat­ionals leader and from the position of Deputy Prime Minister on Monday, but he will have more time to work on his book.

    The Weekend Australian understands Mr Joyce is working on a political memoir-cum-manifesto for Melbourne University Press that will deal with the people and the places in the “weatherboard and iron”.

    “I have a lot of things I need to do. I’m currently in the process of writing a book about precisely the people I was talking about and I want to make sure I get that concluded,” he said in Armidale yesterday. “I want to assist my colleagues where I can to keep their seats and also, quite naturally, in April, a baby will be born. I’ll have other things on my mind.”

    Mr Joyce has frequently referred to the people in the “weatherboard and iron” — those in regional areas where homes were once made of shoddier materials than those in the cities — while warning they will become poorer if forgotten by the powerful elites.

    The book would constitute a similar exploration of power dynamics as The New York Times bestseller Hillbilly Elegy by JD Vance, although by his own ­admission Mr Joyce was the son of millionaires who was schooled at the exclusive St Ignatius’ College Riverview in Sydney.

    From the Oz.

  142. egg_

    A pity the sticky wickey’s a bit tricky – it’s “Vikki”, Vogon.

  143. jupes

    Can someone tell me how to post pictures on catallaxy from an iPad Pro ? Thanks folks.

    Wow Dr Fred.

    Your eye operation has improved your writing markedly.

    Great for you, but it looks like the end of an era for us here who appreciated your style.

  144. Bruce of Newcastle

    DIY skunk works.

    Feb. 23 (UPI) — A Michigan man attempting to use a smoke bomb to evict some skunks from the crawlspace of his home ended up lighting the house on fire, authorities said.

    Ferndale Fire Chief Kevin P. Sullivan said firefighters were called to a home about 10:30 a.m. Monday after a resident attempted to use a smoke bomb to chase skunks out of the crawlspace in his house.

    Sullivan said the flames had spread from the crawlspace to the first floor of the house by the time firefighters arrived.

    “We suggest citizens hire pest control professionals, however if one is an absolute die-hard do-it-yourselfer, please read and understand the directions and warning labels before applying an incendiary [smoke bomb] to your home or garage,” Sullivan told the Detroit Free Press.

    Probably not a good way to evict possums either.

    Man burns down his house trying to get rid of skunks

  145. MPH

    M3 has rolled over according to the RBA monthly stats…

  146. twostix

    We need not pretend this was some awshucks all american apple pie school and district though. It’s a shithole.

    Apparentlt they had an armed policeman on premises full time. High schools in Wisconsin and Oregon don’t have that.

  147. jupes

    They’ve effectively pledged allegiance to another state, a terrorist state at that, and thereby renounced Australian citizenship.

    And yet the government is negotiating with them to bring them back.

    Words fail …

  148. Chris

    Apparentlt they had an armed policeman on premises full time. High schools in Wisconsin and Oregon don’t have that.

    No big deal. Even social workers are armed in urban areas over there. I remember reading the job adverts.

  149. jupes

    Even worse, the first IS moll negotiated her way back home over six months ago and the Feds are still deciding whether to charge her.

    The first and most important duty of government is the protection of citizens. This government has failed and continues to fail spectacularly. They are deliberately and willfully acting against the national interest.

    They are traitors.

  150. egg_

    Why not just wound?

    In the world of policing, officers shoot not to kill and not to wound but to stop the threat. That threat is rarely stopped by a single bullet. Rarely, except in the world of fiction, does a single bullet knock someone down. Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston Marathon bombers, had been shot nine times, several of those wounds fatal, and he continued to toss bombs and shoot at the Watertown police. A person who has been knocked down remains a threat. Those who would have the officer “just shoot him in the knee” miss an important fact. Even assuming the officer can successfully hit that small, moving target, the subject still has both hands free to continue shooting.

  151. Bruce of Newcastle

    He said that if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered then and there.

    Flight 93: “let’s roll”.

  152. marcus classis

    johanna
    #2645071, posted on February 24, 2018 at 4:46 pm
    Re the four cops who hid while the kids were being shot – Tucker Carlson made an interesting point about this.

    He said that if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered then and there.

    I agree with him. I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    What do others think?

    Never forget that cops are merely civilians with a few powers under an Act.

    Police are civilians. I am entirely unsurprised that four cops (allegedly from a corrupt County Police force) hid and let the kids die.

    You would not be able to stop an armed civilian who was a parent (or an armed current or ex military) from entering the school to take on the gunmen.

    DOn’t believe me?

    Look at the 2004 video from Beslan. (like 24 sec mark here)

    When the mohammedans started to murder the children in the school hall, all the armed military and armed fathers simply ran towards the gunfire. The reporting details many cases of unarmed men entering the building with the assaulting troops (and fathers), simply to let the armed military and civilians engage the enemy while they tried to get the kids out. Men died doing that.

    So I tend to agree with the sentence: if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered

    It happened that way at Beslan with well over 90%.

  153. nemkat

    Twostix at 5.09pm:

    According to the Palm Beach Post, and a retired Guidance Officer at the scholl it’s ”an affluent suburban school”. Link
    Not a shithole, twostix.
    Are you trolling?

  154. C.L.

    Re the four cops who hid while the kids were being shot – Tucker Carlson made an interesting point about this.

    He said that if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered then and there.

    I’ll bet a thousand dollars that one of them – the alpha coward, if you will – said “yeah, no ” for WH&S or whatever reasons and the other three conveniently submitted to his excellent suggestion.

  155. Mark from Melbourne

    M3 has rolled over according to the RBA monthly stats…

    Yes, it has.

    Given the Fed stopped even bothering to calculate M3 a decade ago, why should I be interested?

    (Serious question)

  156. Rae

    What do others think?

    jupes #2643938, posted on February 23, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    Coward.

    “What I saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of Building 12, take up a position and he never went in,” Mr Israel said.

    Rae #2643956, posted on February 23, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    Coward.

    “What I saw was a deputy arrive at the west side of Building 12, take up a position and he never went in,” Mr Israel said.

    Easy for you to say. A pistol against an AR-15. The father who spoke yesterday said Cruz killed his daughter by putting 9 bullets in her. Unless that cop was lucky enough to be behind Cruz had he gone into the building he’d have been dead before he could squeeze the trigger.

    A few blokes being all hairy chested about it here, but what they say they would do might be quite different to what they actually would do if in they were on site as the sole School Resources Officer. In reality it’s unlikely they would be a Bruce Willis or a Liam Neeson and heroically rescue the situation.

    Don’t know what the video actually shows or what the MOU between the school and the cops says about the role of the School Resources Officer. But it seem to me that the Chief of Police is deflecting all blame for the kids’ deaths onto Mr Peterson. Maybe the Chief is up for election soon.

  157. Viva

    He said that if you picked four people randomly from the community and put them in that situation, at least one of them would have gone in no matter what because kids were being murdered then and there.

    I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    Fortunately we live in a country where none of us is likely to be called upon to make that decision.

  158. C.L.

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    It’s funny because those national security ads are running again on radio this weekend. You know: ‘if you see something suspicious, call this hotline.’ What we should do is ring the number and report the government frontbench. These a-hole so utterly and absolutely hate normal Australians that they’ve allowing baby rapists and crucifiers back in the country (where they will live a long away from Scott Morrison’s joint). While on the subject of sell-out conservatives going native, has anybody else noticed that Peter Dutton increasingly resembles Colonel Kurtz? Now all we need is Abbott to go full Willard.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    University news.

    Purdue Online Writing Lab bans use of the word ‘man’

    Cautioning writers to “[avoid] using language that is stereotypical or biased in any way,” Purdue OWL describes that the general use of “man” as well as its use in professional titles is no longer considered a formal or professional writing style.

    “Although man in its original sense carried the dual meaning of adult human and adult male, its meaning has come to be so closely identified with adult male that the generic use of MAN and other words with masculine markers should be avoided,” the site claims.

    Presumably in hallowed halls a lady will now be known as a wo and mentioning the other sex will be entirely haram.

  160. Rae

    he was just talking on the radio, and he never did anything for four minutes

    Be interested to know if he was talking to the cops and being told not to go in alone.

  161. C.L.

    Its aim is to develop protocols for reintegrating jihadi families, most of whom will be battle-scarred and traumatised after years in a conflict zone.

    It’s funny because those national security ads are running again on radio this weekend. You know: ‘if you see something suspicious, call this hotline.’ What we should do is ring the number and report the government frontbench. These a-holes so utterly and absolutely hate normal Australians that they’re allowing baby r-pists and crucifiers back in the country (where they will live a long away from Scott Morrison’s joint). While on the subject of sell-out conservatives going native, has anybody else noticed that Peter Dutton increasingly resembles Colonel Kurtz? Now all we need is Abbott to go full Willard.

  162. Rockdoctor

    LOL, news.com thinks Qld ends at Caboolture. Breaking News has an article titled “Heavy rain, flooding hits southeast Qld”. However the article has 2 sentences tacked in talking about Paluma near Townsville & storms that damaged the Coalfields round Moranbah…

  163. Bruce in WA

    I agree with him. I, and presumably most Cats and Kittehs, simply could not stand by and let that happen, no matter how scared we were or what Departmental policy was.

    What do others think?

    I’d probably go down in the first exchange, but I’ll be buggered if I could just sit there, especially if I was armed. At least I’d go down trying

  164. Rae

    Apparentlt they had an armed policeman on premises full time. High schools in Wisconsin and Oregon don’t have that.

    42% of American schools have a School Resources Officer provided under a MOU between the school and the local Police Dept. What makes you think that high schools in Wisconsin and Oregon are not among that 42%?

  165. nemkat

    Dutton’s been livin hiiigh on the hawg since 2013, C.L., and it shows.
    To be fair to the Brussel Sprout, though, Josh Frydenberg has nearly doubled his BMI over the same period.

  166. Helen

    FFS it’s an ELECTRIC train. No smoke.

    I have seen plenty of lekky thinkgs smoking – usually not for very long, though.

    The train would create its own wind, depending on its speed, so it depends on where the smoke direction is being measured. Bushfires do this.

  167. Chris

    I’ll bet a thousand dollars that one of them – the alpha coward, if you will – said “yeah, no ” for WH&S or whatever reasons and the other three conveniently submitted to his excellent suggestion.

    Leadership. For good or for bad, it counts; most look to see what everyone else is doing.

  168. Awake

    I know , Sinclair is obsessed with block chain and crypto currencies.

    Have a read of Lubos Motl’s (a physicist) opinion on bitcoin.

    He thinks, cryptocurrencies will never replace the current world system of currencies.

    https://motls.blogspot.com.au/2018/02/bitcoin-scarce-cryptocurrencies-are.html#more

  169. nemkat

    Any weather experts out there?
    I see in the paper that a volcano erupted in Sumatra on Monday, blowing ash 5,ooo m into the sky, and when the smoke cleared, the top of the mountain, some 1,600,000 cubes of it was missing.
    The sun hasn’t come out in S.E. Qld since Tuesday arvo.
    Any connection?

  170. C.L.

    Peter Dutton asks Abbott how the government’s new pro-crime, pro-terrorist border policies are going down with the base:

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any weather experts out there?
    I see in the paper that a volcano erupted in Sumatra on Monday, blowing ash 5,ooo m into the sky, and when the smoke cleared, the top of the mountain, some 1,600,000 cubes of it was missing.
    The sun hasn’t come out in S.E. Qld since Tuesday arvo.
    Any connection?

    No.

    1.6 million m^3 is only VEI 2. You need at least a VEI 5 eruption to have a noticeable effect on weather. VEI 5 is 1000 times bigger than VEI 2 since it is a log 10 scale.

    Volcanic Explosivity Index

    Pinatubo in 1991 was the last biggish eruption with a measurable climate effect: about 0.2 C of cooling for a couple of years. That eruption was VEI 6.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    US President Donald Trump names USS Canberra after WWII ship sunk in Solomon Island Waters
    ANNIKA SMETHURST | The Sunday Telegraph
    February 24, 2018 11:39AM

    A NEW US warship will be named the USS Canberra in honour of a WWII vessel, 75 years after it sank in Solomon Islands waters.

    US President Donald Trump made the surprise announcement during a press conference at the White House today.

    The original HMAS Canberra was destroyed by the Japanese while protecting US marines during the first days of the Battle of Guadalcanal in the Pacific.

    For nautical Cats.

  173. nemkat

    Armed guard ended school shooting in Oregon:

  174. nemkat

    Pinatubo in 1991 was the last biggish eruption with a measurable climate effect: about 0.2 C of cooling for a couple of years. That eruption was VEI 6.

    Thanks, Bruce of Newcastle.

  175. Dr Fred Lenin

    Jupes ,I was just pretending to be one of the wukkas before the op , you know like the bosses of the socialist gangrene parties , bit like malcolm going into public bar in a rough pub . Sight or no I am still Fred the hater of career pollies and bureaucrats . Scourge of the energy thieves and u.n.communists .

  176. John Constantine

    A hundred Australian jihadis, plus seventy kids plus womenfolk.

    If every adult has thirty cousins in Australia, that makes five thousand people with a personal interest.

    The numbers will be massaged down, and will have nothing to do with the number of military age males that flew from Australia to the borderlands of the caliphate and have already returned.

    Moderate mosque attenders in Australia will now have a cohort of men that execute heretics to do Friday prayers with.

    Execute entire villages for the crime of not killing their own heretics.

    We will never know how many returned already, or how many were killed or what crimes against humanity were carried out by the fat jihadis.

    Once we are committed to a million muzzies by 2020 something, the proles must become compliant and ignorant, in order to accept their replacements.

    Their ABC gush with approval when their left threaten to charge Australian military men with crimes against humanity. Terrified silence about real terrorists though.

    Just wait for the fat jihadis to get their own Anzac day float.

    What a brilliant idea Julie Bishop.

  177. EvilElvis

    as I am a lefty

    FMD, what’s going on today?

    Struth with that big announcement, testes being funny! What is happening???

  178. BrettW

    USS Canberra named after Australian ship that went down protecting US Marines and also named after our capital city.

    Nice gesture of friendship towards the country by Trump during MT’s visit.

    Thanks for the heads up Zulu.

  179. Zatara

    US President Donald Trump names USS Canberra after WWII ship sunk in Solomon Island Waters

    Built by Austal at their Mobile, Alabama yard.

  180. Peter Castieau

    Observations from Flemingtonstan part4:

    Lotsa people about today being the weekend and the show was massively busier. I sold 3. That’s 7 so far so I’m only one off my personal goal of 8 after 4 days. Two more days to go and I’d love to sell another 4-5.

    I’m off down racecourse Rd with old mate from Sydney’s northern beaches who is at the show as an ambassador as he purchased a $150k motorhome a couple of years ago. He ended up being a feature in a caravan glossy magazine so the owners of our brand have paid for his airfares and accomodation to Melbournistan and are paying him a daily rate as well!

    Nice bloke.

  181. egg_

    Peter Castieau
    #2645130, posted on February 24, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Sounds good – enjoying it?

  182. Bruce in WA

    US President Donald Trump names USS Canberra after WWII ship sunk in Solomon Island Waters

    Pronounced of course with the emphasis on the second syllable.

    Can-BERR-a rather than Can-b’ra

  183. DrBeauGan

    Men protecting women and children is an old fashioned Anglo tradition. We’re all multicultural now.

  184. Tom

    Go Custard! No time to waste watching the Swampfilth Re-Education Hour. Spend your Sunday morning doing God’s work and making money.

  185. Nick

    I’m laughing. All those Greens voters in Sydney’s Inner West who believe in open borders, complaining about proposals to build more high rises to house an increased population.

  186. DrBeauGan

    Also, thinking that it’s a man’s job to protect women and children is sexist and ageist.

  187. Rockdoctor

    Just got told a few hours ago that North Shore State School in Burdell (Suburb of Townsville) just built brand new school has unisex toilets. No boys & girls, they apparently are allowed to intermingle. Second hand info from a parent who was less than impressed. Just throwing out to the Cats anyone know has there been a directive from Education Queensland that this is the new norm for school design or another furphy.

  188. egg_

    All those Greens voters in Sydney’s Inner West who believe in open borders, complaining about proposals to build more high rises to house an increased population.

    With all those little brown peasants overlooking their yards.

  189. Habib

    Well that illustrates how grotesquely overpaid these incompetent nonces are.

  190. Bruce of Newcastle

    US President Donald Trump names USS Canberra after WWII ship sunk in Solomon Island Waters

    Built by Austal at their Mobile, Alabama yard.

    Beautiful. With one sentence Trump cements the US-Australia alliance in the best possible way. And it cost nothing at all. Is that diplomacy or what?

  191. Habib

    Fortunately we live in a country where none of us is likely to be called upon to make that decision. Keep telling yourself that.

  192. jupes

    USS Canberra named after Australian ship that went down protecting US Marines and also named after our capital city.

    Nice gesture of friendship towards the country by Trump during MT’s visit.

    Thanks for the heads up Zulu.

    Lovely gesture from The Donald, though I prefer to think that it is only named after HMAS Canberra rather than our pathetic capital.

    Too bad the Japs destroyed the ship rather than the city.

  193. MPH

    Mark from Melbourne – to my mind it means the debt party is over. But hopefully someone with a more economic bent might do us a post on the implications, in theory it indicates deflation on the horizon as well I think?

  194. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    FOUR county sheriff deputies ‘cowered behind their cars during Parkland school shooting and refused to enter the building’ according to Florida police officers who ran in to try and stop the attack

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428851/FOUR-deputies-failed-enter-school-building-shooting.html#ixzz580f6BwgR
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    This just goes on getting worse.

  195. jupes

    Jupes ,I was just pretending to be one of the wukkas before the op , you know like the bosses of the socialist gangrene parties , bit like malcolm going into public bar in a rough pub . Sight or no I am still Fred the hater of career pollies and bureaucrats . Scourge of the energy thieves and u.n.communists .

    LOL Dr Fred,

    Good on you.

  196. Roger

    Is there no end to the stupidity?

    Evidently not. And it’s endangering Australians.

    As C.L. suggests, we need Abbott to go “full Willard” on this issue.

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just in case anyone thinks that age brings wisdom, this story was on NBN Nine local evening news.

    Scene: Port Macquarie
    Participants: age 72 and 81
    Time: 9:30 am Saturday morning
    Weapons of choice: knife v lawn mower

    MAN ATTACKED WITH LAWN MOWER

    😀

  198. H B Bear

    Never bring a knife to a lawnmower fight.

  199. chrisl

    Way to go Peter Sales is the purest form of work . If you don’t sell you don’t get paid. Same as bricklaying
    Point Peter to Parliament 🦊🦊🦊

  200. twostix

    42% of American schools have a School Resources Officer provided under a MOU between the school and the local Police Dept. What makes you think that high schools in Wisconsin and Oregon are not among that 42%?

    Because Wisconsin and Oregon don’t have armed policemen permanently in their schools? What a dumbo.

    This is because Wisconsin and Oregon are not souless balkanised failed states overrun by the crime ready peasants from half a dozen different warring nations, like Florida’s, Texas’ and Califorinia’s are.

    Now why didn’t you go and find that out for yourself I wonder?

  201. Roger

    Just throwing out to the Cats anyone know has there been a directive from Education Queensland that this is the new norm for school design or another furphy.

    It wouldn’t surprise me.

    Policy for some years has been for schools to provide “non-gender specific toilets” if possible when requested by students.

  202. jupes

    A hundred Australian jihadis, plus seventy kids plus womenfolk.

    Questions for the imbeciles (DFAT?) who negotiated to allow the first jihadi moll and her sprog back into Australia:

    What happened to her slaves back in the Caliphate?
    What exactly was negotiated before she was allowed back into Australia?
    How much did it cost to bring her back?
    Where does she live now and who does she live with?
    Has she remarried?
    Does she still wear the niqab (head covering of choice for terrorist’s wives)?
    What mosque does she attend?
    What, if any, ‘deradicalisation program’ is she attending?
    Who is being paid to conduct the ‘deradicalisation program’.
    Is she on an ASIO watchlist?
    What benefits is she on?
    And most importantly – What is the benefit to Australia of bringing her back?

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And most importantly – What is the benefit to Australia of bringing her back?

    Why should Australia even have her, with any revolting brats, back again.

    “The school rang. Little Mohammed has been suspended again, for threatening to behead the teacher.”

  204. cohenite

    “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre said

    Have the 4 deputies been named and shamed?

  205. testpattern

    ‘Built by Austal at their Mobile, Alabama yard’

    Apart from the stealth design, the only thing USN wanted, a piece of crap USN now regrets. It’s US military Keynesianism. USN does it to keep both yards at work. If there’s a fight they’re fast so they can run away. But it gives Austal a foot in the door and the yanks are paying.

    This, even though operating two different types of ships to perform the
    ‘But the LCS was saddled with a decidedly unconventional development process. Offered two competing designs by Lockheed and Austal USA, the Navy paid to develop both — and then decided to produce each as well, to save on the swollen costs of the first ships of each class.
    same mission costs extra money due to the need to operate distinct training programs and maintain different spare parts.’

    https://warisboring.com/here-is-why-the-u-s-navys-littoral-combat-ships-punch-below-their-weight/

    https://twitter.com/Austal_USA?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

  206. Eyrie

    Ah, yes. Huawei. Never say Chicom intelligence doesn’t have a sense of humour (Who are we?).

  207. Nick

    What happened to her slaves back in the Caliphate?

    Modern Australia:
    A man looks at his watch; outrage and extensive worldwide media
    A woman owns slaves, many are used as sexual objects; silence and Government assistance

  208. H B Bear

    Ah yes, deradicalisation programs. File that under legal fictions like refugee screening from muzzie shitholes that haven’t had a functioning government for two decades.

  209. testpattern

    The Buthera agreement commits both parties to negotiate a Treaty over the next three years with Dr Roger Thomas to write a draft Treaty. This is how the National process will unfold. First State level.

    ‘The Narungga Nation has signed an agreement with the South Australian Government that is being hailed as a significant milestone towards Treaty. The official signing of the Buthera Agreement last week lays the foundations for Treaty..’

    https://nit.com.au/narungga-deal-paves-way-treaty/

  210. Tel

    Australian government officials are negotiating the return of a “handful’’ of Australian jihadis and their families who remain caught in the Middle East following the collapse of Islamic State’s self-declared caliphate.

    None of them should be allowed back in. What could they possibly have to negotiate with? There’s nothing they have that is useful to Australia.

  211. Nick

    Charity calls police after a teacher ‘misgenders’ a trans pupil and say he has committed a ‘hate crime’
    Mermaids said the teacher did not address the child using his new gender
    The youngster had previously warned staff and pupils about the gender change
    Volunteers from Mermaids intervened on behalf of the boy and called police

  212. Bruce of Newcastle

    TP – It’s fascinating the remarkable similarity of the Independence class trimarans and the Freedom class monohulls. Both have had development problems, yes, although I wouldn’t say they’re particularly serious (for serious issues see “RAN”).

    About the only differences is the monohull has 10 more guys (40 vs 50) and may have a slightly smaller flight deck, although it’s hard to tell as I can’t find that stat for the Freedom class ships. Both though are well set up for future drone operations, which appear to be in rapid development around the world.

    And they are pretty cheap platforms in this day of billion dollar vessels.

  213. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    None of them should be allowed back in. What could they possibly have to negotiate with? There’s nothing they have that is useful to Australia.

    Well said. What have they got, to negotiate with? Renounce Islam? Shed their religious garb, and dress “Western” style?” Accept that the sexes are equal? Don’t think so.

  214. jupes

    Check out this champion:

    This is a man who can remember the “joyful” scenes at the end of World War I.

    For those not paying attention, that was in 1918. His secret:

    I have a whisky a day.

  215. Tel

    Volunteers from Mermaids intervened on behalf of the boy and called police

    Hopefully the police responded the way they usually do: “Come into the station and fill out a report. OK sign here, and here. Thanks, that’s in the filing system now. See ya!”

  216. ZK2A:

    So, the school guard has a pistol on his hip, and looney tunes has an M16 rifle. How many of the Commando Commandos of the Cat would be prepared to take on those odds? Nah, didn’t think so.

    I would have.
    How could you not?

  217. testpattern

    Kal racists out again plastering murderous posters on the railway station to coincide with the march for Elijah

    ‘They were met in St Barbara’s Square with anti-protesters holding “all lives matter” and “stop all crime” banners, but police intervened and the rally remained peaceful.’

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWx9cf0VwAA4hXR.jpg:large

    http://www.kalminer.com.au/?news/kalgoorlie-miner/protesters-call-for-justice-for-elijah-ng-b88755797z

  218. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Kal racists out again plastering murderous posters on the railway station to coincide with the march for Elijah

    The protest is actually about the fact that the offender is coming up for parole – in the meantime, he’s had his house burnt down, and his family relocated to South Australia.

  219. Chris

    So, the school guard has a pistol on his hip, and looney tunes has an M16 rifle. How many of the Commando Commandos of the Cat would be prepared to take on those odds? Nah, didn’t think so.

    Winston:

    I would have.
    How could you not?

    The thing is you can’t know. Even soldiers, in their first action in WW2 research found over 60% did not fire their weapons in the entire action.

    If just one of these guys had charged with covering or distracting fire from another it might have been over in twenty seconds, because now most mass shooters suicide immediately to avoid consequences.

  220. calli

    I hope I would be brave enough. We all aspire to courage in an emergency.

  221. Bruce of Newcastle

    ‘They were met in St Barbara’s Square with anti-protesters holding “all lives matter” and “stop all crime” banners, but police intervened and the rally remained peaceful.’

    Why is saying “all lives matter” and “stop all crime” racist?
    I would’ve though all people would welcome crime being stopped.

  222. OldOzzie

    NBN – – Australia third world country compared to Singapore

    Samsung Mobile Phone WiFi Speedtest

    Singapore
    Ping 4ms
    Download – 264.51 Mbps
    Upload – 240.38 Mbps

    Sydney NBN

    Ping 12ms
    Download – 38.44 Mbps
    Upload – 35.26 Mbps

  223. Rae

    Because Wisconsin and Oregon don’t have armed policemen permanently in their schools? What a dumbo.

    This is because Wisconsin and Oregon are not souless balkanised failed states overrun by the crime ready peasants from half a dozen different warring nations, like Florida’s, Texas’ and Califorinia’s are.

    Now why didn’t you go and find that out for yourself I wonder?

    Of course they do, dumbo. Regardless of whether or not they are “souless balkanised failed states overrun by the crime ready peasants from half a dozen different warring nations”. Here are but two examples:

    Ripon, Wisconsin School Resource Officer Program

    Oregon City School Resource Officers

    Now why didn’t you go and find that out for yourself I wonder?

  224. marcus classis

    Roger
    #2644995, posted on February 24, 2018 at 1:58 pm
    Poor peoplekind of Canada can’t take a trick:

    While their leader is making a fool of himself – and by extension them – strutting the stage in India in fancy dress, their ice hockey team has suffered defeat at the hand of the Germans in the Olympic semi-final.

    A crisis of national self-confidence beckons.

    The solution is obvious.

    They need to perform a human sacrifice to appease the ice gods. Build a pyramid of ice and atop it, cut out Trudeau’s heart with sharpened ice hockey blades.

    They pay off the national debt with the pay-per-view on that one.

    Only sticking point may be that the ice gods want an actual human, and not a gibbering subhuman retard like Trudeau.

  225. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I would have.
    How could you not?

    The thing is you can’t know. Even soldiers, in their first action in WW2 research found over 60% did not fire their weapons in the entire action.

    If just one of these guys had charged with covering or distracting fire from another it might have been over in twenty seconds, because now most mass shooters suicide immediately to avoid consequences.

    I would have, and probably just got myself killed in the process – one man, with a pistol, on his own, against another with a rifle is not good odds – but, if you survived, at least you know you tried. Chris is right, two or three men would have probably succeeded, but the picture that’s emerging of the deputies hiding behind their cars is not a pretty one.

  226. Knuckle Dragger

    Testes,

    I assume the ‘stop all crime’ banners related to young apparently bullet-proof thugs repeatedly stealing things that don’t belong to them?

    Pity young Elijah wasn’t ute-proof.

  227. zyconoclast

    Anyone south of america is mexican except chileans who earned the right to be called a real country.

    What about Uruguay? They have a 88% white population.

    Ethnic groups white 88%, mestizo 8%, black 4%, Amerindian (practically nonexistent)

  228. jupes

    Even soldiers, in their first action in WW2 research found over 60% did not fire their weapons in the entire action.

    I’m calling bullshit on that stat. I seriously doubt that it would even approach 1%.

  229. Rae

    the picture that’s emerging of the deputies hiding behind their cars is not a pretty one

    Meanwhile the Sherriff is putting all of the blame on Mr Peterson, the School Resources Officer, and has not released the video.

  230. Nick

    I assume the ‘stop all crime’ banners related to young apparently bullet-proof thugs repeatedly stealing things that don’t belong to them?

    Ironic given that ‘white people stole everything’ is a well worn chant.

  231. zyconoclast

    Men protecting women and children is an old fashioned Anglo tradition. We’re all multicultural now.

    I was sitting near a Turkish bloke on a REX flight.
    They asked him if he was willing to man the door in case of a crash. He tells the hostie that he will.
    This surprised me and I asked if he was serious. He said no, he would just jump out and run like the other wogs.
    He only wanted the extra leg room during the flight.

  232. Rae

    I would’ve though all people would welcome crime being stopped.

    I would have thought that a man who deliberately ran down and killed an errant black kid would have been found guilty of murder and properly sentenced.

  233. zyconoclast

    Men protecting women and children is an old fashioned Anglo tradition. We’re all multicultural now.

    I was sitting near a Turkish bloke on a REX flight.
    They asked him if he was willing to man the door in case of a crash. He tells the hostie that he will.
    This surprised me and I asked if he was serious. He said no, he would just jump out and run like the other w0gs.
    He only wanted the extra leg room during the flight.

  234. zyconoclast

    Why is the correctly spelt w0gs banned ?

  235. egg_

    Pity young Elijah wasn’t ute-proof.

    “The mind of God”.

  236. stackja

    The filing cabinets saga forgotten?

  237. John Constantine

    The negotiations are that if we import the returned jihadis quietly and pay them disability pensions for life, their activist supporters within Australia will not become so enraged they have to kill us.

    This time.

    Comrades.

    Our imported paid informer network is our strength. As long as we don’t enrage them.

  238. Roger

    I’m calling bullshit on that stat. I seriously doubt that it would even approach 1%.

    I believe that figure, or something like it, based on a post-WWII book by an American general, were subsequently debunked when his use of sources was found to be somewhat creative.

  239. Rockdoctor

    Flooding in Northern areas of Townsville. Some areas close to 200mm since 9am. Townsville city & catchment mostly has missed out. LOL eat your heart out Dorthy Mackellar, been whinging about the heat & humidity for 4 failed wet seasons and this happens. As an earth scientist at times I see some gems of wisdom in our forebears writings…

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