Political correctness at QANTAS

Just recently I was discussing the finer points of international law with a QANTAS hostie …

No. Wait. Actually, I wasn’t.

I was probably asking for a Jack Daniels on the rocks.

Quite frankly, I don’t really care if the QANTAS HR manual reckons that Australia was invaded, or settled, or colonised. What I do care is that they take off on time, arrive on time, regularly update their entertainment system, and most importantly bring back scotch onto their flights. At the moment they have American whiskey* – the aforementioned Jack Daniels – and Jameson Irish whiskey – in less PC times I might have described it as a drink for girls, but lest I get into trouble let me say that women might it pleasing to their palate, but it isn’t to my taste unless served in coffee with cream.

*the last time I was in New York the great Jacques Chester took me to a whiskey bar where he and I each ordered an American whiskey taster plate and there are some beautiful American whiskies – just not generally available in Australia.

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62 Responses to Political correctness at QANTAS

  1. Entropy

    I reckon you should check your privilege and stop whining about old white male drinks.

  2. Delta A

    Qantas, ANZ et al: as Dutton said, they should stick to their knitting.

  3. Motelier

    Just fly Singapore Airlines.

    No. This is not a paid advertisement.

  4. John Constantine

    Weren’t we going to be doing zero carbon virtual reality conferencing over their NBN by now?.

  5. Y

    +1 for Singapore. Last time I flew Qantas it was utter garbage. I hope they go bankrupt.

  6. Speedbox

    Yeah, Qantas is crap. Many better airlines.

  7. Muddy

    Can’t be too long now before a specially-recruited and trained indigenous greeter spits in your face as you enter the aircraft. You will have paid extra in your ticket price for this of course, because it’s an ancient cultural practice, just like the Maori rubbing nose thing. If you don’t keep your eyes open as it happens, it’s culturally insensitive, and you’ll be Triggsed good and hard when you regain consciousness on the tarmac.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    “Please put your seat in the upright position and admit that Australia was invaded”

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Can’t be too long now before a specially-recruited and trained indigenous greeter spits in your face as you enter the aircraft

    Pest Tattern has already applied for the franchise..

  10. Roger.

    I was probably asking for a Jack Daniels on the rocks.

    At least the ice would mask the appalling taste.

    What a diabolical predicament.

  11. Pedro the Ignorant

    In the good old days, the traditional smoking ceremony was lighting up a durrie as you hit on the hostie and then downed one VB can for every twenty nautical miles travelled.

    Anyone who asked for American bourbon, especially mixed with lolly water would be branded a dead set poof and ostracised from society forever.

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I was probably asking for a Jack Daniels on the rocks.

    I’ve more respect for my liver, thank you, Sinc.

  13. duncanm

    +1 for Singapore. Last time I flew Qantas it was utter garbage. I hope they go bankrupt.

    quoted for truth (both bits)

  14. Up The Workers!

    Maybe they’ve got themselves altogether the wrong “Joyce” running that airline.

    I know of one, at least, who still reputedly sings down the baritone end of the choir.

  15. Dopey

    Headline: Qantas rejects Mabo judgement, says Australia was invaded.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Headline: Qantas rejects Mabo judgement, says Australia was invaded.

    I would like to see such a headline. “Native title and Land rights declared null and void.”

  17. egg_

    Headline: Qantas rejects Mabo judgement, says Australia was invaded.

    Opens the door to Testes charging for aerial land rights.

  18. Malcolm

    Have they changed the name of the Chairmans lounge?

  19. struth

    The boss of Qantas is a fuckwit.

    Sorry, I just like speaking the truth.

  20. Crossie

    Just fly Singapore Airlines.

    When we fly to Europe it’s the only way to go.

  21. pbw

    I don’t care as long as the planes run on time.

  22. Try Garuda to Jakarta to see the difference. And they actually have hosties to serve you real meals. Qaintarse is Priscilla all over.

  23. Boris

    The boss of Qantas is a fuckwit.

    That’s why he runs Qantas while struth… blogs on cat.

  24. Boris

    Qantas starts flying nonstop flights to London later this month. Long live Qantas!

  25. struth

    That’s why he runs Qantas while struth… blogs on cat.

    As does Boris.

    The secretary general of the U.N.is also a fuckwit, and so are many others in positions above me in relation to income.
    The Prime Minister of Australia is a fuckwit, as are most in our parliament.
    Some are even dual nationality fuckwits.
    Boris, could you be more of a fuckwit?
    You fuckwit.

  26. BorisG

    The secretary general of the U.N.is also a fuckwit, and so are many others in positions above me in relation to income.
    The Prime Minister of Australia is a fuckwit, as are most in our parliament.
    Some are even dual nationality fuckwits.
    Boris, could you be more of a fuckwit?
    You fuckwit.

    Looks like almost everyone except for the writer is a fuckwit (in his view). Or maybe the other way round?

  27. Up The Workers!

    Australia was “invaded” by Australians?

    Qantas was sodomised by a leprechaun!

  28. None

    Like their jackbooted CEO, Qantas HR has decided to encroach on our Gemeinschaft instead of sticking to their Gesellschaft. I don’t fly weekly like I used to but I still fly and have happily boycotted Qantas for a couple of years. They are only still in the sky because of depressed oil prices. Joyce destroyed Ansett. He’ll kill Qantas too.

    Also if Australia was invaded, native title dirs not exist. Invaders take all.

  29. gbees

    Been travelling with QANTAS (Platinum member) for decades. That’s it for me. Changing my company travel account from them also. Had enough of the virtue signalling, speech regulation brigade.

  30. Clam Chowdah

    I’m with you Sinc. And Virginia is a “free pour state”, so just say when.

  31. JohnA

    If QANTAS spent less time on politics, and more time on running an airline, they might be able to offer better service and actually turn a quid.

    Things such as rainbow colours on aircraft, support for SSM, imposing the bosses views on all the staff and rewriting their operating manuals are a distraction from their business.

  32. Robbo

    Well Sinc you may not care about the PC bullshit that Qantas is ordering its employees to spew out but I am one that does care. Qantas can stick its entire business where the sun don’t shine as far as I’m concerned. I sacked them a couple of years ago after they tried to play funny buggers with me about the use of my points for an upgrade to business class on a return flight from the US and I now know, with this latest Joyce inspired crap, that I will not be flying Qantas again. In any case having switched over to Singapore Airlines why would I want to downgrade back to an inferior airline like Qantas?

  33. Why not let Air New Zealand take over Qantas and let it go the same way as Ansett?

  34. Mother Lode

    Qantas, ANZ et al: as Dutton said, they should stick to their knitting.

    More to the point – why do the shareholders let them go off on these virtue signalling binges?

  35. duncanm

    The boss of Qantas is a fuckwit.

    That’s why he runs Qantas while struth… blogs on cat.

    there are many fuckwits in this world. Unfortunately, some, unlike Boris, rise to positions of power and influence.

  36. Crazyoldranga

    Singapore or Cathay Pacific for me, and when in USA I drink Old Grandad.

  37. Mother Lode

    Personally I don’t enormously care what happens to Qantas itself. If it fails it fails.

    What is a bigger issue, I think, is that people who work there are being told what they are allowed to say and think. These aren’t matters settled in law. It is not equivalent to insisting employees do not defame someone.

    Employees are being instructed (oh, wait, it is only a guide) to voice opinions not theirs. It is establishing a culture with a political role. And wanting everyone who submits either by mouthing the platitudes sought, or carefully parsing their every word to avoid crossing the line is creating a false impression of unanimity.

    I doubt there is anything in the employee contracts that require employees to be vehicles for the boards political posturing.

    Full disclosure? Any employee should feel free to make the real situation clear to anyone they choose that the company insists they call it invasion etc – that would be more honest, and would achieve the exact opposite of what Qantas is pretending. Which shows just how deceitful this thing is.

  38. Graham

    How do you drink whiskey on a ‘taster plate’?
    I try and avoid Qantas whenever possible, and the latest PC crap provides even greater reason for me to do so. I suspect more and more people are going to think likewise.

  39. Jonesy

    Best bit is to truely stuff with their collective…just say the ex PNG natives on Murray Island voted to stay Australian…therefore ARE Australian and not first nations…if first nations they are soverign PNG!

  40. Dr Fred Lenin

    Jack Daniels? I thought you were a Scot? No self respecting Scotsman would drink that American stuff if Scotch were available , that’s politically incorrect innit?

  41. If QANTAS spent less time on politics, and more time on running an airline, they might be able to offer better service and actually turn a quid.

    Things such as rainbow colours on aircraft, support for SSM, imposing the bosses views on all the staff and rewriting their operating manuals are a distraction from their business.

    True. The cost of painting an aircraft is significant. If the entire fleet is re-painted to buoy the ego of the CEO and publicise its latest brain fart or obsession, that is a very significant cost and erosion of profits that should be going to shareholders, or perhaps more importantly going towards better in-flight catering.

    As for expecting staff, individuals who have their own personal points of view, understandings of the world and beliefs, to spruik what the CEO thinks (a foreigner who was not born here, did not grown up here, and apparently does not understand what Australia is about), that’s fairly out of order. OK, so they’re employees, and there is an expectation that they’ll reflect the ethos of the business that employs them while they’re on duty. Fine, unless what the employer is telling them to spruik is dubious or incorrect or misleading.

    Qantas is supposed to be a business after all, not a personal profile for the CEO.

  42. Jonesy

    ….and…if you can show me where your mob has lived unhindered following your ways and NOT TAKEN ONE RED CENT FROM YOUR “OPPRESSORS”, registered to vote, been counted in any census of The Commonwealth, worked for a government corporation, learnt a foreign language…English…then your mob can cast the first stone…..and what the bloody hell does an airline think it can spread propaganda to a captive audience…strike a bloody light! Where’s my XXXX!

    Simply put, Terra Nullius is a fact! No one person, Soverign, Elected representitive, nominated entity or other could speak for the Entire country. Yes, Australia WAS invaded…by an army of settlers, who did fight skirmishes with some local “nations” for the land…war…in the name of a foreign soverign…no deals were to be done , nor would they be honoured with any british subject and the natives..all land must be granted by the crown. So…no points for guessing who lost.

    …stuff the XXXX, give me a Bundy instead!

  43. Kneel

    “…there are some beautiful American whiskies – just not generally available in Australia.”

    If you cannot get Scotch, only bourbon, then I would suggest Wild Turkey. Quite drinkable.

  44. Jonesy

    ..if you must drink bourbon, try those laced with honey…neat, no ice…not bad drop.

  45. Stan

    Virgin Australia has been my airline of choice for many years, and happy to stick with them.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Singapore or Cathay Pacific for me …

    Agreed.
    If going West we tend to go with one of those and link up with one of their European associates in HK or Singapore (Austrian, Swiss etc depending on destination).
    If heading East it is Air NZ.
    I just can’t justify paying a massive premium to be ignored by mincing poodles and old boilers.

  47. Sinclair Davidson

    I would suggest Wild Turkey

    They don’t offer it on QANTAS.

    try those laced with honey

    Yes – the American Honey (Wild Turkey brand) is very nice.

  48. Faye

    Qantas is just the beginning. The politicians love it. Turnbull loves it. They have stolen the word “rainbow” as well as the word “gay”. Anything “rainbow” (gifts, clothes, etc) I won’t touch. I used to use the term “the gay young moderns”, now I don’t use it because it will be interpreted wrongly. The takeover by the minorities of our way of life should have been stopped years ago by our politicians.

  49. Quite frankly, I don’t really care if the QANTAS HR manual reckons that Australia was invaded, or settled, or colonised.

    Well colour me surprised. A so-called libertarian with zero sense of culture or reality.
    Would you be concerned if they were promoting racial superiority? Or if they suddenly started pushing the notion that Earth’s gravity is 1 m/s2 instead of 10? Might make your plane journey more interesting.

    If corporations want to rewrite and distort history and written law then they should have their licence to operate reviewed and removed. Call it Orwellian but there ARE objective truths, contrary to what lefties promote. There are only two sexes, Australia was settled (by a vastly superior culture), CO2 does not cause runaway warming and Socialism is shit. It is more Orwellian, as Mother Lode points out, for a company to be enforcing their employees thoughts and beliefs and never having consulted or informed shareholders of their fuckwittery either.

    Anyhow, this is all moot to so-called libertarians who have no concept of histories, cultures, science or society and think the entire world can be organised via transactions and an (ironically) nanny-like ‘none-of-your-business’ism.

    Reminds me of that wicked observation that libertarians are simply lefties who understand economics. Or that other classic which will never be a Liberty Quote; “Libertarians are so dumb they will end up debating the benefits of privatising the gulag…as they are being sent to the gulag.”

  50. Dopey

    Well said Mr Rusty. Qantas is promoting falsehoods about our history and Sinc doesn’t care.

  51. Griffo

    No wonder I have to book so far ahead for Singapore Airlines flights if so many of you folk have switched from Qantas. I don’t blame you but how about Air New Zealand or Cathay, even Qatar which is excellent if you ignore the country’s funding ISIS? If you all fly Singapore, I’ll have to book a year ahead.

  52. Bruce

    Dr. Fred:

    “No self respecting Scotsman would drink that American stuff if Scotch were available , that’s politically incorrect innit?”

    And “no true Scot” would call it “Scotch”.

    It’s WHUSKEY, lad!.

    Drink it if you’ve got it!

  53. tgs

    Infidel Tiger
    #2652997, posted on March 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm
    “Please put your seat in the upright position and admit that Australia was invaded”

    LOL

  54. Confused Old Misfit

    Would Sinc be so off handed if QANTAS was rogering the sacred Blockchain rather than his culture?

  55. Sinclair Davidson

    Would Sinc be so off handed if QANTAS was rogering the sacred Blockchain rather than his culture?

    I care what QANTAS does and thinks about flying aeroplanes, and keeping me hydrated and entertained while I am in their care. QANTAS HR’s views on history are entirely irrelevant.

  56. yarpos

    Sinclair is a real man, drinks Scotch, noted.

  57. Helen

    I bought Captain a bottle of Johnny Walker Green and another of Johnny Walker Gold for Chrissie festive season. I had a nip of each, no more! Ghastly nasty stuff.

  58. a reader

    Quaint-arse (or is that now Quaint-rear-end?) can go and screw themselves. Honestly what a load of wankery. If they refer to my future wife as a “partner” I’ll say we’re not in business. If they refer to her as spouse I’ll correct them to wife. I’m sick of this shit

  59. Mark A

    Griffo
    #2653622, posted on March 6, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    No wonder I have to book so far ahead for Singapore Airlines flights if so many of you folk have switched from Qantas. I don’t blame you but how about Air New Zealand or Cathay, even Qatar which is excellent if you ignore the country’s funding ISIS? If you all fly Singapore, I’ll have to book a year ahead.

    Going back to Europe for an other stint in May, and the company booked me in with Qatar again.
    I rather like them now, and since I can choose my departure point in Europe I have none of this nonsense of waiting for 10 to 12 hours or even days as was mentioned before.
    But that was in the Christmas season too so maybe have been an aberration.

  60. candy

    I wonder if the Qantas CEO and execs. have opinions on the terrible things happening to indigenous children.
    10 year olds with syphilis and so on.

    As A. Joyce is so very high profile he is well placed to make a difference. I think Dick Smith eg, tries to. People at that level do have the capacity to influence.

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