Australians in the news

This story is everywhere across the American net today: Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI’s Russia-probe has tie to Clintons. What it means to us is hard to say, but this is an example of how it is being looked at in the US: THE CLINTONS’ TENTACLES: THEY’RE EVERYWHERE. As to the story itself, this is from The Hill, and this is how it begins:

The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show.

Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer’s role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry’s website.

Downer and former President Clinton jointly signed a Memorandum of Understanding in February 2006 that spread out the grant money over four years for a project to provide screening and drug treatment to AIDS patients in Asia.

The money was initially allocated to the Clinton Foundation but later was routed through an affiliate of the charity known as the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), officials said. Australia was one of four foreign governments to donate more than $25 million to CHAI, records show.

In the years that followed, the project won praise for helping thousands of HIV-infected patients in Papua New Guinea, Vietnam, China and Indonesia, but also garnered criticism from auditors about “management weaknesses” and inadequate budget oversight, the memos show.

Downer, now Australia’s ambassador to London, provided the account of a conversation with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos at a London bar in 2016 that became the official reason the FBI opened the Russia counterintelligence probe.

But lawmakers say the FBI didn’t tell Congress about Downer’s prior connection to the Clinton Foundation. Republicans say they are concerned the new information means nearly all of the early evidence the FBI used to justify its election-year probe of Trump came from sources supportive of the Clintons, including the controversial Steele dossier.

“The Clintons’ tentacles go everywhere. So, that’s why it’s important,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) chairman of a House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee that has been taking an increasingly visible role defending the Trump administration in the Russia probe. “We continue to get new information every week it seems that sort of underscores the fact that the FBI hasn’t been square with us.”

Spokesman for the FBI and Russia special counsel Robert Mueller declined comment.

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43 Responses to Australians in the news

  1. OneWorldGovernment

    Steve

    Talk about ROFL.

    But when are we going to check out ASIO and ASIS?

  2. Robbo

    No one should be surprised that Downer is up to his neck with the Clintons. They are so bent and corrupt and Downer is such a wanker that they are just a natural fit.

  3. Free Advice

    The Downer / Papadopoulos story smelt off from the outset. Drunk in a bar with the High Comissioner late at night spilling beans? Yeah sure. Downer is part of the swamp. Their connection looks like a set up. Dodgy as.

  4. Confused Old Misfit

    What it means to us is hard to say

    No, my old expat comrade, it’s right some easy, as they say down east.
    Our pollies, even the ones at the highest possible levels are suckered by the aura of raw power. They will denigrate themselves and the country they think they represent for the simple, stupid, vapid objective of wanting to be seen as buddies with THE BIG MAN. And the biggest is a US pres. And if they can get a photo op or a handshake that will make the 7:00 PM news they give away half of Australia.
    To just be able to sniff the air around a POTUS they’ll give away their daughters and first born sons.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wussians? What Wussians?

    Australia turning out to be the biggest meddler in the US election (6 Mar)

    Ms Showalter gives Downer a serve, but she misses the hundreds of millions of tax payers’ money that Gillard generously kicked in to Clinton related organisations.

  6. IRFM

    Cherry picking at the highest level. I think Blogger Michael Smith had the full disclosure of the arrangement up on his website several months ago. The sum is actually closer to $125 million commenced under the Gillard Government and continued into this one. I think we have been conned

  7. struth

    I think we have been conned

    Can we have this put down as the classic understatement of the year, so far, at the Cat!!

    Highly humorous…………………………………

  8. H B Bear

    The Lieborals now an international laughing stock. Australia exposed as just another client state of the Clinton Crime Foundation.

    Lord Downer should have returned to Adelaide to resume life as a member of the local bourgeoisie while their failed State crumbles around their feet.

  9. struth

    When it comes to foreign collusion in U S elections, the Ununited Australian People’s Socialist Shithole of Hivis-astan has donated more, sent more people over to fight for socialism directly, colluded behind the scenes and generally bullshitted more than any other country on earth.
    Those three pimple faced Russians playing around on Facebook have nothing on them.

    When it comes to corruption, let an Australian politician show you how it’s really done.

    Russians…….pfft….

  10. struth

    The money fell out of his fishnet stockings it seems, the Bitchop carried as much as her tiny hagged out frame could carry, and the Prime Minister would have loved to chip in with the transactions but was dancing in the Mardi Gr-arse at the time.

    Others too busy to be “tax cash mules” for the Clintons included Christopher Pyne who was too busy with the critical issues of national importance, ensuring the sexual abuse and Marxist attacks on our children via “safe Schools”

  11. max

    “There Is Nothing New Under The Sun”.

    power corrupts “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

    why do you rob banks ?

    “because that’s where the money is”

    Why the Worst Get on Top,”

    “because that’s where the money is”

    big government big problems and big corruption

    If you want better live for yourself and your children you better start advocating return to gold standard ( honest money ).

    That is only way to stop government from getting big.

    The Supreme Virtue of Gold:
    It shackles the hands of politicians ( keep them honest –no more promises of milk and honey for everyone ).

  12. struth

    Now our tearful A.G. who has now concluded his mission that brought him to tears a number of times and was of great national importance, SSM, will take over from the fishnet wearing Poonce of Powerless South Australia,…………………………….why wouldn’t you vote Liberal?

  13. Entropy

    I don’t beluve Downer was one of the tentacles of the Clinton establishment. Just a useful idiot looking to do favours for the mob who he and his foreign minister boss believed would be the next president.
    Like all these narcissists, he just believes he is an inside player.

  14. A Lurker

    Like all these narcissists, he just believes he is an inside player.

    Just who in our Parliament isn’t a narcissist, because they all seem tainted by some degree or another by that personality trait.

  15. jupes

    Ms Showalter gives Downer a serve, but she misses the hundreds of millions of tax payers’ money that Gillard generously kicked in to Clinton related organisations.

    Don’t forget Bishop kicked in another lazy $90 mil to the Clintons the other day.

    Australia is probably the only country still stupid enough to be donating to those crooks.

  16. sabena

    I don’t think that Downer in giving aid of $25m to the Clinton Foundation was doing anything other than advancing Australia’s interests as the Government saw them at the time.And if Hilary had been elected,the giving of aid would have assisted the relations with the new president.As to sending a report of what he was told by Papadopoulos-that is simply doing his job and he would have been negligent if he didn’t.
    The real problem is the mindset in DFAT that:
    (a) considered Hilary was a lay down misere to win
    (b) failed to consider the dissatisfaction of voters in flyover country
    (c) assumed that the Democrats tying up of the minority vote ensured they would win
    I am sure this is part arises because our diplomats are mostly located in blue areas and only talk to swamp dwellers and progressives.

  17. Roger.

    Just who in our Parliament isn’t a narcissist, because they all seem tainted by some degree or another by that personality trait.

    Most people are narcissistic to a degree but reality keeps it in check, although it must be said that our culture increasingly promotes narcissism (plastic surgery, ‘look at me!’ social media, normalisation of homosexuality). Then there is the type whose narcissism shapes their personality, what psychologists/psychiatrists call a borderline personality disorder. Without self-discipline the ordinary narcissist who obtains a measure of power can easily be manipulated by others who appeal to their self-love to get what they want, e.g. a donation of tax payers’ money. The pathological narcissistic, otoh, is the manipulator of others to their own advantage. They will often rise to the top of business or politics because they are not restrained by conscience. Psychs will tell you the pathological narcissist is almost impossible to treat because they have no insight into their condition. Is it too much to suggest that, given the damage narcissists can inflict on others and, if in power, the national interest, all political aspirants should be assessed for pathological narcissism and excluded from running for parliament if they have it?

  18. BrettW

    No fan of the Clinton Foundation but this is a beat up as far as Downer goes. At the time when the money was donated CF did not have the poor reputation it has now. $25m is nothing and every Foreign Minster since Downer has donated plenty to CF.

    Yet another story where Michael Smith was onto things way before mainstream media as he has been writing about DFAT donations to CF for a long time.

  19. H B Bear

    Just who in our Parliament isn’t a narcissist, because they all seem tainted by some degree or another by that personality trait.

    Downer, like all of us, has many defects. Narcissism isn’t one of them. Waffleworth and KRudd on the other hand …

  20. Des Deskperson

    “The real problem is the mindset in DFAT that:
    (a) considered Hilary was a lay down misere to win”

    The Downer grant was made in 2006. Our diplos must have been exceptionally dense if they though that Hilary had any chance in 2008.

    There was a reasonable case for the grant in 2006. AusAID/DFAT worked and works closely with NGOs in delivering aid. The money was to be mostly spent in our immediate region – PNG, Indonesia, Vietnam. At that time, there was no reason to doubt the integrity or competence of CHAI or the Clinton Foundation.

  21. stackja

    Des – Has DFAT recovered from Kev?

  22. Des Deskperson

    ‘Des – Has DFAT recovered from Kev?’

    He was on;y therefor about 18 months and he didn’t seem to have a chance to do much damage, although there would have been a few old hands around who remembered and despised him when he was a strutting, snot-nosed junior dipole.

    Bishop is worse, particularly when it comes to issues in our immediate region, where, for all the posturing we do in Europe, the UN, China and the US, it’s the ely area where we have any real power. Bishop is reportedly lazy, uninterested, disorganised and basically doesn’t give a sh*t. I’ve previously posted examples of her slackness.

    Downer they reportedly liked, he was a former diplo himself and knew the ropes or, if you prefer, he was a
    member of the club.

  23. A Lurker

    Is it too much to suggest that, given the damage narcissists can inflict on others and, if in power, the national interest, all political aspirants should be assessed for pathological narcissism and excluded from running for parliament if they have it?

    I totally agree with you, I’d add sociopathy and pyschopathy as excluding psychological traits.
    Too few normal, rational people in Parliament.

  24. Struth;

    the Bitchop carried as much as her tiny hagged out frame could carry,

    Close, Struth. But you missed the ‘s’ in front of hagged.

  25. Sinclair Davidson

    For the love of god. The Australian government donated money for AIDS work in 2006 and now there is a conspiracy against Trump?

  26. John Smith101

    Do we know how all the taxpayer gifts from Downer, Rudd, Gillard, Bishop (and others?) to the Clinton Foundation were actually spent. Are there itemised accounts of the expenditure? How much does the Clinton Foundation ‘take off the top’ before the money is distributed? Which country donated more money than any other to the Clinton Foundation? What did they (or we Australians) expect in return? Are these donations (payments) in any way connected with the Clinton Foundation’s ‘Pay to Play’ ’scheme’? Just how effective was the 2006 Downer donation for AIDS work, by the way? Why is the FBI interested in the 2006 Memorandum of Understanding between the Australian government and the Clinton Foundation’s “Clinton HIV/AIDs Initiative?

    It seems to me there are many questions regarding Australian donations to the Clinton Foundation that require answers rather than reactions.

  27. paul

    The demorats said the FBI used Downers reported meeting wth Popadopoolous to start the Fisa submission into Russian collusion in fact Downer has one thing in common with all the other sources that the FBI used, there links to Clinton.
    That is the issue here.

  28. Tim Neilson

    For the love of god. The Australian government donated money for AIDS work in 2006 and now there is a conspiracy against Trump?

    Is it any more ridiculous than the allegation that there’s a conspiracy INVOLVING Trump?

  29. Sinclair Davidson
    #2654517, posted on March 7, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    For the love of god. The Australian government donated money for AIDS work in 2006 and now there is a conspiracy against Trump?

    We’re into the 6 degrees of separation territory now.
    What’s happening is that various outlets are now devoting resources to the FISA warrant issue because they see something there. And there is.
    However the Downer issue is a nothing burger. Commenters above left out one important fact which will clue us in on what Downer’s role was.

    Time elapsed is a clue here. Downer met Pappadop, mentioned it in his regular weekly report he sent back to Australia.
    DFAT staff here then included the meeting notes from Downer in the regular monthly (or weekly, whatever) report they share with the five eyes group, including the Yanks.
    It took 6 weeks from the time Downer met Pappadop to the time it was known by the alphabet agencies in the US. If the meeting was an important spying info, it would have been hours, not 6 weeks for the Yanks to find out.

    When the Clinton allied anti-Trump alphabet agencies started looking for dirt, any dirt on Trump, this obscure and benign Downer mention was spotted, then used as another cog in the “muh Russia” narrative being spun by not just the FBI, but the DoJ, NSA and other alphabet agencies. (Clapper, Brennan et al).
    (The purpose of which was to legitimise the already occurring spying of Trump and his associates. That spying was never to see the light of day WHEN Hillary won, but she didn’t. Damage control stations, damage control stations baarp baaarp baaarp).

    So this has nothing to do with Downers “connections” to the Clintons. Downer just did his job without nefarious intent.
    This story was known and reported on by some web outlets like The Conservative Treehouse going back to late last year.
    It has gained new attention now that many are investigating the FISA abuse since the Nunes memo.

  30. John Constantine

    How much Australian money made it onto Papua New Guinea ground?.

    We see the stark, Teflon bulletproof looting the crime foundation has industrialised in Haiti, where the poor can almost send smoke signals to America, (if they had wood).

    Pay to play has been no secret about the Clinton’s since the Bill presidency put the for sale sign up on the white house gate.

    All we see is corrupt Australian quislings that can’t even figure out who to sell us out to, so they do everybody, the town bikes of transnational diplomacy.

    If our ruling orcs gave the Clinton crime cartel another hundred million next week, I wouldn’t even blink.

  31. Malcolm Thomas

    What Sinc said. For goodness sake Steve, STOP DIGGING. Your pathetic desperation to find anything, no matter how feeble, to support the lunatic in the White House, or at least muddy the waters, is transparent to all.

  32. Rob MW

    For the love of god. The Australian government donated money for AIDS work in 2006 and now there is a conspiracy against Trump?

    Lol. Of course they didn’t know that the Clinton mafia were actually money grubbing, self-serving, influence peddling salesmen/persons and they expected nothing in return for their paying to play. Yeah, right. On the other hand, I suppose Downer could have sold Australia’s uranium reserves, no, scratch that, Downer was so dumb and innocent not knowing anything about the Clintons he would have given them the uranium and cured Aids at the same time.

    Oh and that’s right, the mafia staining the White House furniture and stealing the White House silverware, Downer knew nothing about that of course. Nothing like having friends in super high places to scratch that itch. FMD.

  33. John Constantine

    In Australia, our ruling class is so unwaveringly committed to decolonisation of the country, so addicted to lefty cocktail parties, that Australia’s orcs are proud to be the last massive donors to their Clinton crime cartel that don’t hide their identity, proud to be seen driving our country deeper into debt to pay corrupt bribes to pay to play .

    And will never stop.

  34. rickw

    What is the total amount that our corrupt politicians have gifted to the Clintons?

  35. rickw

    How much Australian money made it onto Papua New Guinea ground?.

    Australia donates around a million a day, AusAID confesses that around 50% of this is not properly accounted for.

  36. John Constantine

    Their Haiti Clinton programs show us that the excuse for donation is just the headline, the intent of the donors and the intent of the Clinton cartel is political advantage, not Mother Theresa labouring.

    Just as redfilth Gillard stated that workplace safety was progressed by the left being in political power, so company funded workplace safety donation and payoff programs that funded lefty political pushes, not actual worker training were legitimate, their Clintons tell their donors that a world run by the right sort of people actually does make it a better pace. The poor will always be with us, we just have to make sure they are led by the transnational looting class.

    Michael Smith reported once that it cost more to audit one Clinton program than the actual amount of money the poor of Papua actually saw on ground, it went to pay to play in New York instead, but since that was the full intent of the donor, everybody was happy.

    Are we auditing the Gillard grant money?.

    We suspect that the global project for girl children is EMILYS list to progress socialism and future wymynsys fabian socialist political leaders in poor countries, not reading,writing and arithmetic.

    But we fund Stalinism in the kindergartens of the Pacific anyway.

    With hundreds of millions.

    What a brilliant idea Julie bishop.

  37. Up The Workers!

    Australian Ambassador?

    What a Downer!

  38. Up The Workers!

    Where are those: “Things that batter” when you need one?

  39. For the love of god. The Australian government donated money for AIDS work in 2006 and now there is a conspiracy against Trump?

    Time to put Kates out to pasture, Doomlord, and look to the fresh young faces of conservatism to have OP privileges. Like me.

  40. J.H.

    … and don’t forget that the former Prime Minister of Australia, Julia Gillard, gave the Clinton Foundation more than 10 million dollars during office and ended up chairing one of the Clinton Foundation’s education programs after she retired from Parliament…. In other words Hillary Clinton was using foreign governments to fund both her election campaigns… I’m pretty sure that’s illegal…. The 2008 and the 2016 Presidential elections…. Australian political elites were using Australian Taxpayer’s money to “Pay to Play” in influencing American politics and promoting an anti American, anti Constitutional, anti Conservative agenda.

    That is not something that so called, “Friends and Allies” do…. I’d be pretty pissed if I were an American citizen getting to hear this for the first time.

    Perhaps all American allies and trade partners, should have to adopt the American’s First and Second Amendments as a test of fealty and loyalty. To show that the values of Freedom are encouraged in alliance countries…. That would be great. If you want to be protected by America or do business with them… Then free your citizens so they may speak and act against political tyranny.

    Because at the moment, our Australian political elites are adopting the Authoritarian and regulatory behaviors of Communist China rather than proscribe to the ideology of Freedom that is enshrined in the American Constitution.

    Our Australian politicians seemed geared to doing business with China than with America. Indeed our Australian Political elites are funding Traitorous American stooges like Hillary Clinton to undermine and overthrow the Constitutional concepts of American politics.

    Now, Hillary might like to think that she’s the smart one in the room, but our Socialists have been playing the Democrats for fools for quite some time…. The Dems probably think that their ideas seeped from the wellspring of their own backyard. But they would be sadly mistaken. Global Socialism is desperate to shackle American exceptionalism and it’s influence on the populations of the World. An armed and freely speaking citizenry are an anathema to Socialism.

    If I were American conservatives…. I’d be looking to teach a few of these Australian government meddlers a lesson or two.

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