Monday Forum: March 12, 2018

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  1. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Isn’t it wonderful to see Labor and the Greens at each other’s throats. But it won’t last.

    It’s like a rerun of trotskyists vs stalinists

  2. twostix

    So, David Warner, the next time someone sledges you about the sexual history of Candice Falzon, repeat this.

    How weird is this sentence, why did the author change David Warner’s wife’s name back to her maiden name?

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I have enjoyed the current debate here concerning abortion. It has in general been conducted with civility and with dignity to all, with Dr. BG fielding well some less-worthy comments from a certain zzzzzzzzzz.

    On contentious issues one hopes for a fair hearing, which sometimes doesn’t happen.

    I’d like to thank CL for attempting to head off a recent attack on me the other night with a topic change, whereas others could not recognize my distress and simply added to it. CL’s encouragement of me to complete a review was the only thing that led to me doing that; I’d have given up otherwise. The review was submitted to Quadrant last night. It may simply not be their thing, I have heard nothing back yet of course, but at least I completed it. There is satisfaction enough in that.

    I had an excellent lunch with Perpetua Durack; we were immediately like old friends. She could also confirm that I am not some grim old harridan, nor a twenty-stone keyboard warrior from outer Woop Woop making things up; but that I am simply a woman within normal ranges for smarts and looks, married (she thinks Hairy is nice looking in photos from our trips), a mother of four, and certainly no ‘fantasist’ about my life experiences in general. I picked her up from her hotel in Woollahra in the Q5, she praised my city driving skills (!), we drove by the gardens at Vaucluse House and I pointed out where we live as we drove down our street on the way to the restaurant. She has my address to return a book I lent her. I am pleased that a review I first put up here and reworked for Quadrant has led to a new friendship.

  4. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    a mother of four

    good girl

  5. Leigh Lowe

    twostix

    #2658950, posted on March 12, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    So, David Warner, the next time someone sledges you about the sexual history of Candice Falzon, repeat this.

    “Yeah, she did all that. All that. And afterwards, after all those amazing athletes, she chose me. I’m bloody lucky.”

    Support your wife’s sexual agency and put de Kock in his place. Way down the batting order and struggling to keep his spot as a wicket keeper. You know what to do. Now do it.

    Level 1000 mega cringe.

    The Saffies have no water.
    But they own Davey’s head.
    I don’t mind that he is a dumb xunt.
    Being a yapping dumb xunt with a thin skin is what has got him into trouble.

  6. zyconoclast

    Isn’t it wonderful to see Labor and the Greens at each other’s throats. But it won’t last.

    It’s like a rerun of trotskyists vs stalinists

    Ice picks at close range?

  7. zyconoclast

    The Saffies have no water.

    Who needs water when you have beer?

  8. Leigh Lowe

    The Saffies have no water.

    Who needs water when you have beer?

    The greatest cricketing nation on earth evah has been brought to it’s knees by 1 reference to dunny sex and 150 carboard SBW masks.
    Sad.

  9. twostix

    So, David Warner, the next time someone sledges you about the sexual history of Candice Falzon, repeat this.

    “Yeah, she did all that. All that. And afterwards, after all those amazing athletes, she chose me. I’m bloody lucky.”

    Support your wife’s sexual agency and put de Kock in his place. Way down the batting order and struggling to keep his spot as a wicket keeper. You know what to do. Now do it.

    I’m confused, is this author driving the knife in? At first I thought she was doing that thing where a girl tries to do blokesy banter and everyone around dies of acute internal cringe failure.

    But re-reading it, it’s pretty perfectly crafted – calling his wife by her maiden name, speaking of her as though she’s separate from him, drawing a picture of all those “amazing athletes” that have been through her…

  10. H B Bear

    VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force in the news again? That’s a surprise.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I had an excellent lunch with Perpetua Durack; we were immediately like old friends

    LizzieB, the next time you meet one of the Duracks, allow me to point that my family managed a Durack station for many years, and I patronized a certain Perth bookshop, where the owners wife “was a Durack.” for, again many years.

    If you wish, I am happy for Sinclair to pass on my E – mail address, so I can supply corroborative details, and I will happily furnish my full name and details, to assure you that you are not being stalked…

  12. Leigh Lowe

    Support your wife’s sexual agency and put de Kock in his place. Way down the batting order and struggling to keep his spot as a wicket keeper. You know what to do. Now do it.

    Too complicated.
    You are going to have to write that on the back of his hand.

  13. C.L.

    Glad you finished it, Lizzie. You’re a very talented writer, that’s a fact.

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    One thing that I forgot to mention about Perpetua is that she has a direct line to St. Anthony. We did discuss his dismissal as a Catholic Saint, and she did tell me she ignores that and you should go down on your knees to him if you want him to work for you. Then, as she had just admired my diamond ear-rings, I lifted my hand to show her my new multi-diamond eternity ring – and my ring finger was abandoned, free of all rings, wedding rings too (I have two). Such a shock. I rang home where Hairy was working and he checked likely places (sinks, bath, bedside table, kitchen etc) without success, so Perpetua said she would get on to St. Anthony and I was to text if my rings turned up. I wandered disconsolately around the house for an hour when I returned and still couldn’t find them. Just as Hairy was getting philosophical again about my capacity to lose things, they turned up in a very unsafe place, likely to be thrown out. I texted Perpetua in delight and she texted back with a happy musical icon saying St. Anthony had never failed her! That’s a story for the unbelievers amongst you.

  15. H B Bear

    Too complicated.
    You are going to have to write that on the back of his hand.

    Phonetically.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force in the news again? That’s a surprise.

    I think the last serous criminal Victoria Police arrested was one Edward Kelly. Even the last man hanged in Australia, Ronald Ryan, was arrested in New South Wales, and returned to Victoria for trial.

  17. DB, I did point out that there is a fair degree of congruence between moral judgements at least in those cultures which encourage its development. The fact that many of the values of Buddhism are shared by Christianity is one example of this. The same holds for aesthetic judgments. It’s not just me thinking your preference for Hallmark over Rembrandt makes you an aesthetic imbecile.

    It’s not ‘just a matter of taste’. There’s clearly much more to it than that.

    I agree, but you said

    “It’s a bit like asking how can we tell when a joke is really funny. Or how can we tell when a piece of music is good. Or a painting beautiful.”

    That is, when I asked you to provide reasons that distinguish, so to say, a Hallmark card from a Rembrandt self-portrait you simply waved your hands and declared the task hopeless and the demand nonsensical.

  18. I was a bundle of non-specific cells…

    Really, non-specific cells produce human beings?

    that in no way could have an entity outside of the mother.

    What does this even mean?I should add that these cells are distinguishable from the mother; strange given your first claim.

    Please stop embarrassing yourself.

    Physician, heal thyself.

  19. None

    Incidentally, I’m still waiting for an answer to the question, “should doctors who kill unborn children with Down syndrome be arrested; if not, why not?”

    and I’m still waiting for overburdened to tell us what s/he was before s/he was human. Maybe that clump of non specified cells was algae? What were you before you were human, overburdened?

  20. twostix

    pro lifers should feel pleased, mentally you’ve driven back pop “pro choice” followers to the “just a clump of cells” inner fort. Where in their minds eye they imagine a nice formless cell as seen on TV.

    They couldn’t hold the line at the usual 10 weeks even, it’s a total blitz.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If you wish, I am happy for Sinclair to pass on my E – mail address, so I can supply corroborative details, and I will happily furnish my full name and details, to assure you that you are not being stalked…

    I will ask Sinc for your email, Zulu, and let Perpetua know about your interest in the development of the Kimberley, and your family’s role there. We discussed how it has not been easy at times being a Durack in WA because of tensions over aboriginal matters and land. Her mother was a remarkable woman, and Perpetua is still doing work for various Institutes on aboriginal traditions; she was in Sydney for further library searches. She is very interested in traditional mythology, as both her mother and her aunt recorded many myths and beliefs in the form of various children’s books they wrote together and that also Elizabeth illustrated. A friend of mine owns a first edition of one of these books; I showed it to Perpetua and she was most impressed at its condition. Apparently it is quite rare.

    ps. she wasn’t too thrilled that in my review I called her ‘elderly’. I apologized profusely.

  22. Gab

    Tintarella Di Luna
    #2658606, posted on March 12, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    Any cats at thr Jordan B Peterson talk this evening?

    No but just come back from the Ed Sheeran concert 😀 Loved it!

  23. twostix

    It literally takes 10 seconds to have most people who mock abortion hardliners into 99%-of-the-way-there abortion hardliners themselves “no, no I’m only talking about allowing the removal of a clump of cells the moment after conception you wacky catholic hardliner! Everything else should be illegal as of course, it’s barbaric to tear apart fully formed babies!”

  24. None

    Well it seems you’ve had a good run, Lizzie. Review done. Nice lunch. New friend. Rings found. I’d say Quadrant will like it. The ending you posted was certainly well written and topical.

  25. None

    I like JP don’t care for Sheeran but I would have gone to see Ed anyway.

  26. Gab

    He’s very talented, None and quite humble. Just him on stage with his guitar – he goes through several h=guitars each concert. No other musicians.

  27. None

    Twostix – after years online I remain astonished that most pro aborts still trot out the same old inane shallow arguments that fall apart with the slightest poke. It astonishes me that these people continue to defend the indefensible on the basis of such flim-flam infantile teasoning. My guess is that many among them have had abortions themselves or else had a partner who aborted their baby and this is the only way that they can deal with that horrid reality that they can’t undo – they have to find a way to justify it instead of accepting that it was utterly unjustifiable. The rest of the proaborts are made up of the “just want abortion just in case.” Ultimate get out of jail card, for men especially. Or so they think. Because it’s actually a prison.
    I’ve lost count of the men I have met who are still haunted by their partner’s abortion. Sons they never had. That women regret abortions goes without saying.

  28. C.L.

    Lizzie, St Anthony of Padua has not been dismissed as a saint.

    You might be thinking of St Christopher.
    He was dropped from the universal calendar of saints in 1970, his cultus having been adjudged un-historical (though not dismissed outright). Christopher was most likely mis-identified, mistaken with St Menas, the Egyptian wonder-worker.

    ———–
    /Wiki-assisted.

  29. C.L.

    Gab, how was the sound?
    Sheeran’s first date got bad reviews for lousy sound.

  30. Gab

    Sound was fantastic, CL. Had another friend go to the Friday night concert and no problem with sound then either. Just a really fantastic night all round – including the public transport getting home. Well organised.

  31. None

    It takes considerable talent to hold a crowd for a couple of hours as a soloist. So he must be very, very good live to pull it off.

  32. Gab

    Almost 3 hours, None.

    ————————

    St Anthony of Padua – he’s definitely my dear Saint. Has done lots to help me out, and not just on lost items.

    There was that time in China – Qingdao – when I lost my mobile phone in a night club.Was told I’d never see it again. Impossible, O was told. But I had faith and got the phone back the next day. And that’s the least St Anthony has helped me with through his intercessions.

  33. C.L.

    Hungary has told the UN to forget about sending an Islamic horde to destroy its culture:

    Hungary Challenges United Nations Plan to Facilitate Global Mass Migration.

    Presenting a “security first” proposal to the United Nations (UN), Hungary has announced it is “ready to fight” the globalist body over plans to promote mass migration…

    Announcing the proposal in Budapest, Foreign Secretary Peter Szijjártó warned: “If these 12 points, in which the Government summarises its position, are not included in the package, Hungary will not be in a position to support the adoption of the Compact.

    “The goal of the proposal is to ensure that the security of the Hungarian people can continue to be guaranteed in future,” he said, declaring that “the Government and the governing parties are ready to fight this battle”.

    Entitled “Security First”, Hungary’s document begins by challenging the key claim on which the UN package was built — that mass migration is both beneficial and unstoppable — noting events in recent years have shown the process has “caused serious security challenges in many regions of the world”.

    In its second point, the Fidesz government said international efforts should be aimed at stopping illegal immigration rather than facilitating efforts, going on in the third to slam the compact’s labelling of migration a “human right”.

    “With respect to the rules of international law, international organisations must make it clear that migration is not a basic human right. Nobody can independently decide which country to live in while ignoring national regulations and international law,” the proposal states.

    Continuing, it notes the mass migration of people from different cultural backgrounds “leads to the creation of parallel societies with serious security implications in the affected regions”, pointing to German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s recent admission that the country is struggling with migrant-occupied ‘no-go’ zones.

    Asserting that it is best to help refugees remain as close to their place of origin as possible, “living in a dignified manner”, Hungary calls on the UN and wider international community to “recognise that every person has the right to live in his or her homeland in peace and security”.

    The UN responds with its customary boilerplate and blather:

    Sonia [email protected]

    #Hungary: UN rights boss Zeid slams #Orbán’s speech as clear-cut statement of racism, increasingly delusional, and an insult to every African, Asian, Middle Eastern or Latin American woman, man and child.

    It is time to stand up to the bullies of Mr Orbán’s ilk.

    —————

    Kenneth Roth✔@KenRoth

    “Yes, I did call the increasingly authoritarian…[Hungarian PM] Viktor Orbán a racist and xenophobe….Because it is time to stand up to the bullies of Mr Orbán’s ilk.”–UN rights chief.

  34. Pedro the Ignorant

    I live in a bubble.

    I had never heard of Ed Sheeran until I read that he had sold out the new Perth Stadium for a concert.

    Must get out more or spend less time in the bush.

  35. C.L.

    Sheeran is not really considered cool, Pedro.
    He’s a lot like James Blunt, Phil Collins and Liberace in that respect.
    And, like them, he cries about the criticism – all the way to the bank.

  36. classical_hero

    It’s weird how treating a problem with the mother, even if the child dies as an abortion. Just like how so many say that any civilian death is a war crime, no matter if the intended target was a military one and they use civilians as shield. We have specific definition because of this, so we can call it what it is. Calling treating the mother’s problem that inadvertently kills the child is not an abortion. An abortion is solely focused on killing the baby. Treating a problem pregnancy is about helping the mother. IF the unfortunate side effects is that the child dies, then it’s sad, but it’s not an abortion.

    According to Dr GB, if a woman under goes a mastectomy to remove healthy breast tissue, the that’s wrong, because it’s not causing a problem right now. But sometimes removing healthy tissue is the best cause of action to prevent future harm, which is why women would take such operations.

  37. struth

    Great response from the UN.

    But your a a a aa,
    you’re a RACIST!!!!!!!!

    Well I’m convinced.

  38. EvilElvis

    Well now, if Hungary has insulted that many shithole dwellers they’d never want to move there anyway. Wouldn’t they?…

  39. Snoopy

    Sonia [email protected]

    #Hungary: UN rights boss Zeid slams #Orbán’s speech as clear-cut statement of racism, increasingly delusional, and an insult to every African, Asian, Middle Eastern or Latin American woman, man and child.

    It is time to stand up to the bullies of Mr Orbán’s ilk.

    Fuck off bugwoman. Orban was elected to stand up for Hungarians.

    Oh, and I doubt very few Japanese are insulted.

  40. Knuckle Dragger

    Damn straight, Snoopy.

    The Hungarians spent centuries fighting off they very same people the UN/EU wants to foist on them without a challenge. I don’t think so.

    The Belgians in the EU still see the Germans as their masters, as they smashed them to bits in short order during two wars. Why the Hungarians would allow their country to become the next Germany, France or Italy needs no explanation.

    A threat of Hungexit would really set the cat among the pigeons, and expose the EU for what it really is – an open-borders lunacy derived from the proposition that all are equal and treat others they same way. FFS their own country is full of no go zones identified by terrorists as a prime location for staging attacks across Europe.

    If they really felt that way the EU would be setting up emigration stations, if not holding conferences in places like Chad, Mali and Libya. Let’s see how far they get then.

    Europe needs another Charlemagne, Charles Martel or even a Bismarck. Ladies and gents, Merkel ain’t it.

  41. Knuckle Dragger

    Whoever said ‘strong fences make for good neighbours’ had it nailed.

    This is why the concept of countries developed, and has done for MILLENIA. Alike groups with the same or similar ideals, values and beliefs will congregate together, and defend their territory when required. Some are subsumed by stronger neighbours, and some are not.

    Britons are different in many respects from the French, who are different from the Italians who are different from the Greeks and so on. It took almost a thousand years for the Kingdoms of France and Germany to evolve into what they are today, and they understood the importance of crossing boundaries into another’s territory. Countless wars were fought and deaths were counted for this to occur, and the EU wish to undo all this at the stroke of a pen. More power to the arm of Hungary I say, and for that matter Poland, who has its border redrawn that many times it looks like a kid’s Etch-a-Sketch. Now they have a solid border again, and be damned if a pile of suit wearers from the other side of Europe are going to tell them what to do.

    I saw a doco once on violent Polish soccer thugs. Pity the fool who thinks that an unlimited intake of Africans, completely foreign to their country and customs will sit well with them.

  42. Mitch M.

    Study tackles neuroscience claims to have disproved ‘free will’

    I repudiate the typical interpretation of Libet’s famous experiment for different reasons. Sad to note that preconceptions arising from training influence the interpretation of so many results. It is very common in neuro imaging studies.

  43. JC

    Yea, Bismarck was really good value, knucklehead. He created a country for his army, setting the stage for WW1. Good thinking.

    The strongman is very appealing for some of us weaker types, hey?

  44. johanna

    This is a headline from Fauxfacts Online:

    We are ignoring the sex lives of women in rural Australia and they are paying the price

    OPINIONJustine Landis-Hanley

    You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    Call me old-fashioned, but I would have thought that women in rural Australia would prefer that busybodies stay out of their sex lives.

    The article is the usual feminist gobbeldygook, but this paragraph stood out:

    Studies show that fear of sexual shaming and privacy concerns are the two biggest deterrents for rural girls accessing family planning services or trying to get hold of contraceptives. Many girls report they are too afraid to talk about their sex lives with their local GP in case what they say comes up in dinner-time conversation. Others avoid buying condoms or filling their prescription for the pill in case their shopping trip turns into local gossip.

    Of course, growing a huge belly and then having a child would never become a topic for local gossip.

  45. classical_hero

    https://youtu.be/r_fbmgvohF8

    Welcome to California. Officially a shithole state.

  46. Knuckle Dragger

    JC,

    Bismarck indeed created a country, out of over 30 separate principalities and duchies, as it had been through the 30 years’ war that finished in 1648 with the Peace of Westphalia.

    It did not set the scene for WW1 at all. A Serbian nationalist killing an Austrian dignitary (on his second attempt of the day, after coming across his car by accident on the street) was seen as an extension of the Balkan Wars of 1911 – 13, which put the Austrians and the Hungarians against the Serbs. Again.

    All the major powers mobilised, and Britain eventually declared was on Germany after they allied with the Austrians and threatened Belgian neutrality, as the Kaiser had had eyes on Belgium and its ocean ports for some time, as previously they had to go through the Baltic Sea like the Russians, who were major trading partners with the British at the time. It was a massive domino fall and had been coming for some time. Dreadnoughts for the coming war had their keels laid as early as 1900 on both sides.

    In short, Austro-Hungary’s invasion of Serbia started the war, not Germany’s existence as a country.

    In any event, yes I’d rather a person who stood up for my country’s population and rights rather than a policy of ‘Welcome in everybody, whatever your ideology or circumstances. Have some money the taxpayers gave you. We haven’t enough infrastructure, water or affordable housing for you but we’ll sort something out sometime. Oh, and bring your family if you want, but just military age males leaving their families behind in the shitholes they created will do.’ In other words, R-G-R.

    No thanks. And before you mention it, a Hitler or Stalin like purge would not occur today (except in North Korea) and you know it. We are very lucky indeed that we don’t have a land border with Indonesia – there’d be refugee camps set up all over Testes’ precious Pilbara and Kimberleys.

  47. Snoopy

    It’s true the elite are decadent. Here’s Bezos eating a fucking …iguana.

    Cannibalism is now a thing?

  48. JC

    Knucklead

    He just didn’t set the scene for Ww1. The pig also set the stage for Hitler. Seriously, wtf are you promoting the anti-Semite on a libertarian blog?

  49. johanna

    Nothing to see here, move along:

    Detailed new statistics on sexually transmitted infections among Indigenous children in the Northern Territory reveal the number of cases is declining and there is little evidence to link STI rates to child abuse.

    [ … ]

    But previously unreleased data provided to Fairfax Media by the NT Health Department and the country’s leading Indigenous health researcher paints a different picture, and several of the most senior experts on the subject have disputed a link between STI rates and child abuse.

    The 2017 data shows 81 per cent of STI notifications in Indigenous children under 16 were among 14- and 15-year-olds, while 19 of 23 syphilis cases in children under 16 were aged either 14 or 15.

    Well, that’s all OK then.

    Phew!

    The question of how 14 year olds have syphilis in the first place to transmit it to others never exercises their tiny minds.

    And, apparently children getting STDs could not possibly have anything to do with child sexual abuse, rape of two year olds notwithstanding.

    Nothing will ever change as long as these enablers are in positions of power.

  50. JC

    BISMARCK: A LIFE BYJONATHAN STEINBERG

    The story of a gluttonous swine.

  51. Knuckle Dragger

    JC,

    If you read what I wrote you will see that I did not promote Hitler at all. You seem to equate any politically strong leader with Hitler, no doubt for reasons of your own. I even specified that a Hitler would not survive in today’s environment. There is a nascent difference between wishing your country to retain its historical identity and values, albeit to the point of annexing parts of neighbouring countries because they contained a majority of ethnic Germans, and to letting anyone they like in, bringing their own problems with them.

    And Bismarck did not set the scene for WW2 at all. He was deposed by the Kaiser at the start of the war along with the great tactician Ludendorff, if not before.

    One of Bismarck’s great beliefs was that Germany should not make was with Russia under any circumstances, which the Kaiser promptly did.

    The Treaty of Versailles set the scene for WW2. As the Frenchman who signed the treaty observed, ‘This is not a treaty. This is an armistice for twenty years.’ The unbearable costs and other reparations on post-war Germany set the scene for the Freikorps among the remaining Army officers, which later became the SS, and politically was a prime opportunity for someone like Hitler to take centre stage.

    After Germany’s defeat in WW1 theKaiser exiled himself in the then-neutral Netherlands, and actually wrote a letter to Hitler after the Nazi defeat of that country in WW2 asking when he would be returned to the throne. It was, predictably, ignored by Hitler.

    Neither turn of events were set up by, nor inspired by Bismarck.

  52. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘make WAR with Russia…’

  53. JC

    Knucklehead

    I never said you promoted Hitler. You promoted Bismarck , the gluttonous Prussian pig. I’m guessing though that if you love Bismarck, Hitler’s promotion as a misunderstood man may not be too far away.

  54. Snoopy

    Owning a German car is just one step away from Hitler love. VW, Merc, BMW, it’s a slippery slope.

  55. Knuckle Dragger

    JC,

    I did promote Bismarck – we’re back where we started. Regardless of his gluttony, he forged a country out of many different yet homogenous entities which had not existed since before the Holy Roman Empire started. He did create and base his military on the Prussians, because they were better at it than the others. Makes sense.

    The fact is he had no influence on the Kaiser who sacked him, the start of WW1 or 2, nor did he create the conditions for the rise of Hitler. There is a difference between a politician prepared to say his piece and act in the interests of his/her country and a Hitler. When the Hungarians start cramming Africans into railway cars to purpose-built mass crematoriums, maybe I’ll change my mind. But not before.

    And until then, good darts from Hungary for simply wanting to keep a country the way it is when it’s not broken, rather than turn it into European Morocco because some elbow-patch wearing bespectacled professional country wrecker in Brussels says so.

  56. JC

    No, trumpeting Bismarck is, Snoopy.

    What’s with some of you guys pushing the strongman Schtick. It’s really fucking sad as.

  57. johanna

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2658909, posted on March 12, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Peter Temple has died.
    Nil nisi bonum and all that… but I found his evocative aussie mysteries very weak.
    Was he really such a demigod of detective fiction? Is he the best we’ve got?

    Coincidentally, The Broken Shore is my current bedside reading (not for the first time.)

    It is a very good book indeed, and puts the Playschool scribblings of most Australian award winners in perspective. He does lean a bit to the Left, but certainly doesn’t depict Aborigines as congenital losers and victims. The protagonist is related to a large local Aboriginal family, and he has no illusions about them.

    He also illustrates how media and politics polarise things to the point of absurdity, as Tom Wolfe does in the Bonfire.

    His earlier detective novels were pretty good. The post Broken Shore ones felt as if he had been reading his own publicity. But, if you enjoy country Australian, laconic, dialogue and a good mystery, have a read.

  58. Snoopy

    Sorry JC, I didn’t realise you owned a VW.

  59. JC

    You’re a Bismarckian too, snoops? Wow!

  60. johanna

    feelthebern
    #2658927, posted on March 12, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    Any self funded retiree who votes Liberal at the next federal election should be euthanised.

    Any self funded retiree who votes Liberal at the next election is self euthanising, bern.

  61. Knuckle Dragger

    And btw JC, yes you did say I was promoting Hitler. At 3.26;

    ‘wtf are you promoting the anti-Semite on a libertarian blog?’

    Bismarck was demonstrably not anti-Semite. He promoted Jews to positions of power in industry and the military, making use of their skill sets to achieve his aims. Hitler, naturally, was very much an anti-Semite who I did not promote at all. Which I have said before, and recently.

    The ‘weak leader’ no borders strategy you seem to promote is going gangbusters in the no go zones in Malmo, Saint-Denis, Hamburg, Cologne and other previously spectacular European areas isn’t it? No wonder Hungary and Poland want nothing to do with it.

  62. Knuckle Dragger

    Moderation!!! Amended:

    And btw JC, yes you did say I was promoting Hitler. At 3.26;

    ‘wtf are you promoting the anti-Semite on a libertarian blog?’

    Bismarck was demonstrably not anti-Semite. He promoted J*ws to positions of power in industry and the military, making use of their skill sets to achieve his aims. Hitler, naturally, was very much an anti-Semite who I did not promote at all. Which I have said before, and recently.

    The ‘weak leader’ no borders strategy you seem to promote is going gangbusters in the no go zones in Malmo, Saint-Denis, Hamburg, Cologne and other previously spectacular European areas isn’t it? No wonder Hungary and Poland want nothing to do with it.

  63. Snoopy

    Any self funded retiree who votes Liberal at the next election is self euthanising, bern.

    Exactly, put your faith in Chris Bowen instead.

    Labor wants to scrap a policy which means some who pay no tax get $2.5 million refund

    It’s hard to believe Alberscreechy didn’t write that headline.

  64. johanna

    I don’t now who Ed Sheeran is. But, I do know that his fans are pathetic little snowflakes:

    Ed Sheeran fans have called on Etihad Stadium to provide more free water at future concerts after people collapsed from dehydration over the weekend.

    Thinking back to rock concerts I attended long ago, there was no water, let alone ”free” water, around, but somehow we all survived. And had a whale of a time.

    Would a personal attendant with a palm leaf to wave and a portable water-cooler be enough for this bunch of babies without nappies?

  65. JC

    Knucklehead

    You’re a sheeple looking to be led.

  66. Knuckle Dragger

    I haven’t been to any really big concerts, but didn’t the security staff just continually spray a hose over anyone within reach?

    If you haven’t hydrated properly before spending four + hours crammed into an enclosed area with thousands and thousands of people, all exuding tremendous body heat, more fool you I say.

    It’s like going on a fun run and then collapsing halfway through, and complaining the organisers didn’t provide enough free water or ice packs. Personal responsibility – you know what you’re going into, so plan accordingly.

  67. Knuckle Dragger

    JC,

    Sorry, you’re the sheeple. Already being led by people you don’t know, on the other side of the world wanting you to allow a completely different ideology/ies, culture and way of life to take over this one without a word of dissent or a ‘why?’

    And no, I don’t have a Southern Cross Tattoo nor am I part of the UPF or the ‘Fvck off Australia We’re Full’ crowd. I am, however, prepared to be led (or lead) by somebody who wants the Australian way of life preserved, of assimilation rather than multiculturalism and not suddenly switch to a completely different people’s way of life, as opposed to kowtowing to some anonymous organisation who told me to. It’s that simple.

    On what you’ve said so far tonight, I’m sure you would love Di Natale running the country with Sea Patrol as a deputy. See how your cryptoshares and other stocks go then. Au pair hiring companies, though, would go through the roof.

  68. johanna

    I’d like to thank CL for attempting to head off a recent attack on me the other night with a topic change, whereas others could not recognize my distress and simply added to it. CL’s encouragement of me to complete a review was the only thing that led to me doing that; I’d have given up otherwise. The review was submitted to Quadrant last night.

    Oh, FFS, Our Princess is back, with a tale of angst about her ‘artistic’ endeavours. My God, that garret with a habour view must be torture!

    I have mentioned earlier here Peter Temple, a very good writer indeed. He is sparse, edited his stuff ruthlessly, avoided adjectives and pretension, and, like Tolkien, detested allegory.

    That pretty much sums up your endless and self-aggrandising book project.

    Person in 2010: Hi Lizzie, how’s your book going?

    Lizzie: Well, I’m working on it, and Da Hairy Ape has just bought me a new diamond ring because he loves me.

    Person in 2015: Hi Lizzie, how’s your book going?

    Well, I’m working on it, and Da Hairy Ape adores me, as he should. We are going on an expensive holiday soon.

    Person in 2018: Hi Lizzie, how’s your book going?

    Lizzie: Thing is, life’s complicated, My Sainted Mother, stuff, nobody knows the pain that I feel.

    She’s been dining out for years on blogs and at parties on the strength of this majorly interlecshual book of hers. Years and years, where she got away with it, especially with a bit of soft porn for the old blokes.

  69. johanna

    Dr BG, don’t bother. We have a tag team of literatists (C.L) and Jesuits (Dover) who regard this as a refreshing morning exercise. The latter is especially noted as being full time on uprooting and replanting goalposts.

    It doesn’t matter. Every now and then a dickhead comes out in the middle of a major election campaign and says something stupid like, in this case, pregnancy cannot happen from rape, and that’s it. Conservative candidate tanks.

    Meanwhile, if you imagine that abortion is going to be banned in Austrslis, you are shouting at clouds.

  70. John Comnenus

    Gee the UK is locking up any Christians who try to enter thountry if they have anti mass immigration or anti Islamic views. They are denied entry under anti terrorism laws and asked how they feel about running over Muslims. Seems IK Police has gotten control of the Christian terrorism problem. Now if only they could sort out all the Islamic hate preachers, rapists and terrorists,

  71. Leigh Lowe

    Tits Shorten to cut franking credit refunds on dividends.
    A policy introduced by Keating to cut double taxation of dividends.
    Eat da rich because someone has to fund the NDIS rort, renewballs and the voteherd influx.

  72. johanna

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2658975, posted on March 12, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    a mother of four

    good girl

    Not to put it too delicately, is a woman who has had four children likely to have a tighter vagina than one who has had sex with multiple men?

    The cock-masters here have frequently enjoyed circle-jerks together about how ‘loose women’ have less desirable nethers because others have been there. Next, we hear how motherhood is fantastic, although for most women it means a bit less elasticity. What the ideal is … oh, FFS, I met dozens of them. Wifey and kids at home, and mistress on the side. That is their idea of paradise.

    I suspect that having obligatory pictures of the commenters who make these remarks would largely resolve the problem. You know, a -8 beta male saying ‘I don’t like Raquel Welch’ (eg JC) would be a good reality check.

  73. Knuckle Dragger

    Johanna,

    I don’t presume to speak on behalf of the ladies here, but I would postulate that it would depend very much on the individual woman. Body shape, genes and post-natal exercise may all play a part.

    *not an expert on post natal vaginal elasticity*

  74. Tel

    Two parcel explosions in Austin, Texas.

    Time to get serious about banning brown paper and string.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    And Channel Nein follows the Liar’s talking points.
    “Dividend franking credits date back to the Howard government”.
    Um, no.
    It was introduced by the Hawke-Keating government in 1987.

  76. feelthebern

    The franking credit rebate for excess credits was introduced under Howard/Costello.

  77. John Comnenus

    Dividends are income and subject to income tax. Dividends derive from corporate profits which are subject to company tax. Company tax is a tax on shareholders income, therefore not being able to claim franking credits – ie taxes on an individuals income already paid by the company on behalf of the shareholder. So why should a person who derives all their income from dividends be taxed at the company tax rate 30%, and if they are successful investors, he max personal tax rate which is about 49%. What’s wrong with 79% tax? Nothing according to Labor. And of course if this is applied to individual investors why shouldn’t it be applied to SMSF owners and eventually all superannuation accounts.

  78. feelthebern

    Franking credit rebates impacts every single super fund.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s a SMSF or an industry super fund.
    If Turnbull can’t make hay out of this, he is a retard.

  79. feelthebern

    If Shorten announces this will only applied to smsf’s & not industry super funds, it will be off to the high court.
    If Shorten says it only impacts super funds over a certain threshold, keep in mind the average balance of an industry super fund is circa 330k.
    Also keep in mind that this doesn’t impact tits shorten.
    He’s got a tax payer funded, indexed, zero risk pension, courtesy of us, the tax payer.

  80. feelthebern

    Shorten really is a c8nt.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    OK bern.
    The basic policy introduced by Labor and tweaked by Howard.
    But it is deliberate spin (ie lies) to present it as a Liberal policy.

  82. JC

    Lol , madam Gin’s timing is impeccable. While she’s putting down liberal party voters..here.

    Any self funded retiree who votes Liberal at the next election is self euthanising, bern.

    A short while later, Leigh posts this comment

    Tits Shorten to cut franking credit refunds on dividends.
    A policy introduced by Keating to cut double taxation of dividends.

    Lol

  83. feelthebern

    JC it is my fault.
    Paul Murray flagged on his show there was a change to super being announced today.
    I took that as Turnbull announcing changes.
    Turns out it was a Shorten policy announcement.
    So my rant last night was mis-directed.
    My rants this morning are correctly slamming Tits Shorten.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    My LOL moment so far this morning:

    Newspolls not a test of leadership: PM

  85. Leigh Lowe

    If Turnbull can’t make hay out of this, he is a retard.

    He won’t and he is.
    .
    .

    Shorten really is a c8nt.

    Status confirmed.

  86. Carpe Jugulum

    If Turnbull can’t make hay out of this, he is a retard.

    He is a retard.

    Fact Check – True

  87. 2dogs

    Looks like Leigh Sales learned from Cathy Newman’s mistakes, and avoided her usual similar strawmanning tactics with Jordan Peterson.

  88. zyconoclast

    It’s true the elite are decadent. Here’s Bezos eating a fucking …iguana.

    http://ibankcoin.com/flyblog/2018/03/12/amazons-bezos-accepts-award-promises-spend-wealth-space-exploration-eating-fucking-iguana/#sthash.SeupGxOd.dpbs

    Just in time for breakfast.

    He must visit Australia and eat a giant monitor lizard otherwise he is racist.

  89. feelthebern

    Not for Profits are exempted from the franking credit changes.
    Here is the ad that the stupid LNP needs to run for the next 6 months.
    The CFMEU (a not for profit) will be exempted from Shortens proposed changes.
    The ad should be a heavily tattooed union thug – he benefits.
    And then a shot of nanna having a cup o’ tea – she gets slugged.
    If that doesn’t swing Newspoll 5 points, nothing will.

  90. calli

    Fabulous research by Seven on Trinity Grammar protest over the dismissal of a teacher. They give us a long clip of the school’s logo by way of introduction.

    Problem is, it’s the Sydney Trinity Grammar crest, not Melbourne’s.

    Maybe all mitres look the same to these lazy numpties. Let alone Latin mottos.

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I don’t presume to speak on behalf of the ladies here, but I would postulate that it would depend very much on the individual woman. Body shape, genes and post-natal exercise may all play a part.

    You postulate well, my friend. Not a stretch mark anywhere in my bikini even after four. As Perpetua noted, I’m lucky to have very good skin, part of a Scandinavian heritage and care in the sun, while she bemoaned her traditionally Irish complexion. I had two children before I met Hairy, and I have never made any secret that it was try before you buy with us, nor that I was no nun between marriages, nor that the decision for me to continue in the baby-making line was mutually fast: thus off to the Registry Office.

    Hairy doesn’t need or want a mistress. He has enough to do already. And I am firmly of the belief that any healthy woman can make herself attractive enough both physically and mentally to retain her man, regardless of her age, child-bearing or past histories, with the proviso that he is not a leftie and doesn’t have the philandering gene. 🙂

  92. feelthebern

    The question is, does Bill Shorten realise that the punter with 20k in super in accumulation phase, still benefits from the the franking credit rebate?

  93. Bruce of Newcastle

    My second LOL moment of the morning:

    Stormy Daniels offers to return $130G to Trump in exchange for being able to speak about alleged encounter

    Oops, non-disclosure agreements seem to be legally binding…how amazing!
    All that wonderful Democrat dosh is out there just waiting, waiting for meeee.
    All those glorious interviews with Maddowses and Behars so sadly cannot happen until the agreement ceases to be.
    Oh for popcorn!

  94. Baldrick

    Sean Delonas.

    Cheers Tom, snort, quack, chuckle.

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Re school mottos, I have always admired Abbotsleigh Girls School’s chutzpah to have a very unusual motto: ‘tempus celerius radio fugit’ – ‘time flies faster than the weaver’s shuttle’. Nothing so boring as pupils having sterling qualities or the school providing excellence in teaching. That much you can take as read. Its the swiftness of our passage through time that really matters, and what you do with it.

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oops, non-disclosure agreements seem to be legally binding…how amazing!

    Well, we always said Trump was an astute deal-maker. 🙂

  97. cynical1

    Shorten really is a c8nt.

    news/latest-news/newspolls-not-a-test-of-leadership-PM

    It’s a close run thing over who is the bigger one.

  98. calli

    Delonas for me too. 😄

  99. feelthebern

    James Kirby in the Oz says that Sydney Airport & Transurban will be impacted by Shortens franking changes.
    Maybe someone should tell the chap that both those companies pay distributions with zero franking credits.
    You’d expect better from the Oz.

  100. Would that be my comments Lizzie?

    What a pathetic sadsack you are.

    Your brought your ill considered position on muslim child rape gangs to the OF hoping to get opprobrium heaped on the head of Delta A and it backfired, big time.

    If your on-going MO is not to have nasty little drama queen digs at me from now on, go right ahead..

    I hope there’s a chorus of support for your claims about my comments.

    I’m sure the sock crowd will be along shortly to join in.

  101. feelthebern

    JC, considering you own half of Sydney Airport, maybe you should tweet James Kirby at the Oz.
    Tell him to stop besmirching your vig producing machine.

  102. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Stormy Daniels offers to return $130G to Trump in exchange for being able to speak about alleged encounter

    go away whore.

  103. feelthebern

    A friend told me that Stormy Daniels work is pedestrian at best,
    Sloppy at worst.
    Desperate for another pay day.

  104. calli

    It throws a little light on the confusion of aesthetics with ethics. One is a matter of the moment, the other is founded in eternity.

    The elgin marbles and the parthenon have been much admired for rather longer than a moment, Calli. And I’m not confusing aesthetics with ethics, I’m pointing out some similarities.

    I understand DrBeau.

    But you illustrate the point Lewis makes perfectly by bringing in the Marbles.

    As I Christian, I view them as a beauty of the moment, like Mt Fuji or the Grand Canyon. They will all be swept away. While the only truly eternal things left will be people. Eccl 3:11

  105. Baldrick

    Tits Shorten to cut franking credit refunds on dividends.

    TheirABC comes out in support of Tits policy of double-dipping with fake news squarely aimed at class warfare:

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Labor wants to scrap a policy which means some who pay no tax get $2.5 million refund

  106. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What’s wrong with 79% tax? Nothing according to Labor.

    Onward to one hundred and ten percent rate and beyond!

  107. feelthebern

    I’ll say it again.
    A punter with 20k in super, in the accumulation phase, gets the benefit of the franking credit rebate.
    Turnbull should be walking around Point Piper this morning with his popped colour, pink polo shirt & a massive stoinker.
    Shorten has just given him his Tampa.

  108. Geriatric Mayfly

    North Korea to launch new TV soap operas BBC News

    Under license, they will all be old reworked ABC drama and ‘comedy’ shows.

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Little blowfly in here somewhere trying to lay eggs in Attapuss’s meat to make maggots.
    Shoo fly, defenestration for you.

  110. Atoms for Peace

    My worry given Tits announcement is that the Coalition is going to do what it does best; shoot itself in both collanderised feet and give away the advantage.

  111. Boambee John

    Zulu

    A couple of times you have referred to test pattern as “Pestes”. Have tou spelled that correctly? Should it be “Pestis”?

  112. Thank you for the confirmation.

    You couldn’t even come up with something original.

    Was that btw a veiled threat of violence?

  113. Gab

    My worry given Tits announcement is that the Coalition is going to do what it does best; shoot itself in both collanderised feet and give away the advantage.

    My money’s on turnbull adopting Shorten’s latest brain spasm as Lib policy.

  114. Calli on the Marbles

    Beautiful as they are, no doubt they are not a patch on what they were in the original.

    All those Greek and Roman ruins telling the same story.

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    While the only truly eternal things left will be people

    Very insightful, that. To merely exist we have to become eternal. For without people who is to do the thinking that suggests our existence? Dearly as I love him, it would not be Attapuss nor any ape but us. I love Ecclesiastes, an amazing part of the Bible.

  116. feelthebern

    Former Indo foreign minister Marty is on the from page of the AFR today.
    Always with the double breasted suits.
    He really is a fuckwit.

  117. Eyrie

    No reason not to move all your shareholdings to other countries if you aren’t going to get dividend imputation.
    It would not surprise me at all if Turnbull just adopted Labor’s policy.

  118. After years of handing visas to any old muslim hate preachers the UK has gone full progressive and banned Lauren Southern.
    Lauren Southern banned from the UK

  119. Eyrie

    Might also move some currently self funded retirees back into the pension system. Bowen and Shorten are idiots.

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    The blowies are bad this season. I’ll shoo this one off again.
    Out of the window, and look – behold – she can fly.
    Hairy’s the one with the fly spray, not me.

  121. Isn’t dividend imputation almost uniquely Australian?

    All those self funded retirees bitterly opposed to a reduction in the corporate tax rate because it would have reduced their refunds must be crying into their morning lattes.

    I’d have been one of them, eventually.

  122. Keep it up, it’s a good look for you.

  123. Marcia Langton has something to say in the Australian about high rates of STIs in remote Aboriginal communities with added swipe at John Howard.

    ‘If I were in a responsible position’ says she…

    P

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Apparently it’s now a crime to want to interview Tommy Robinson, you can be held in immigration detention for this. And Lauren Southern (whose work in South Africa has been extremely good) is in similar strife. It’s beyond me why parliamentarians and police in the UK think this sort of banning and harassment is going to do anything other than create more division and anger widely and also against those who refuse to implement Brexit.

  125. feelthebern

    Isn’t dividend imputation almost uniquely Australian?

    All those self funded retirees bitterly opposed to a reduction in the corporate tax rate because it would have reduced their refunds must be crying into their morning lattes.

    1) so what.
    2) the media made a big thing about a corporate tax cut reducing franking. didn’t hear any beneficiary being bitterly opposed.

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Keep it up, it’s a good look for you.

    Non-violent resistance. Something to be said for it.

  127. Judith Sloan also in the Oz reminding us that 20 story apartment blocks in the suburbs are not the answer.
    Old Ozzie might be along to share later.

    Seems like just another aspect of our culture we must abandon to the immigration racket.

  128. rickw

    It’s beyond me why parliamentarians and police in the UK think this sort of banning and harassment is going to do anything other than create more division and anger widely and also against those who refuse to implement Brexit.

    It just means that when The People get forced to sort this out themselves, they’ll swing with the muzzies as collaborators.

  129. calli

    The plight of commentators wishing to interview Robinson inthe UK is another illustration of Lewis’ quote I posted last night.

    In a culture that prides itself on “inclusiveness” and “tolerance”, it is blind to the real danger of bigotry and censorship of any view other than its own.

    Screwtape strikes again.

  130. Resistance against what?

    You came back to the open forum and had a pathetic dig at me and now you pretend it is some form of ‘resistance’.

    No one said a word about you during your brief absence.

    Now stop it, you pathetic drama queen.

  131. calli

    Ahahah! Seven finally finds the correct school crest for Trinity Grammar, Melbourne.

    Sydney’s most trustworthy news source.

  132. Arky

    JC
    #2659045, posted on March 13, 2018 at 3:30 am
    BISMARCK: A LIFE BYJONATHAN STEINBERG

    The story of a gluttonous swine.

    ..
    As if you don’t enjoy the company of gluttonous swine.

  133. Armadillo

    Lauren Southern was detained and deported for distributing “racist” pamphlets (not for wanting to interview Tommy Robinson).

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/03/12/allah-is-queer-lgbt-for-islam-read-the-racist-leaflets-that-got-lauren-southern-banned-from-britain/

  134. It’s the white supremacists are the REAL danger to the public order narrative.

    Progs willfully blind themselves to reality.

  135. Baldrick

    A DRUG-ADDICTED refugee on a disability support pension with a 15-year criminal history has been spared deportation to Iraq.

    The ruling came after the Administrative Appeals Tribunal found he would not be able to access adequate mental health treatment in his home country.
    The 44-year-old, known only as MAH, arrived in Australia by boat in 1999, and within 10 years had acquired a “substantial” criminal record with convictions for at least 14 offences including drugs charges as well as assault and intimidation, for which he received suspended 12-month prison sentences.
    In July last year, a nurse deemed him medically “unfit to travel” to Christmas Island due to his ongoing methadone treatment and chronic leg ulcers, leading to the possibility of indefinite detention unless Immigration Minister Peter Dutton’s decision to cancel his visa was set aside.
    In overturning the decision this week, AAT senior member Peter Taylor SC (pictured) found MAH’s offences were “impressive in their 15-year time span, number and diversity” and “taken together they convey the impression of a person who either has no real subjective commitment to, or very problematic ability to achieve, a law-abiding existence”.
    But Mr Taylor found that they could “reasonably be regarded as at the lower end of the range of conduct that merits description as materially ‘serious’.”

  136. You’d think the pro LGBT lot would be wildly applauding those leaflets.

    Wasn’t that much the point of Mardi gras’s rainbow hijabs.

    It’s all very confusing.

  137. Arky

    notafan
    #2659121, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:45 am
    Would that be my comments Lizzie?

    What a pathetic sadsack you are.

    Your brought your ill considered position on muslim child rape gangs to the OF hoping to get opprobrium heaped on the head of Delta A and it backfired, big time.

    If your on-going MO is not to have nasty little drama queen digs at me from now on, go right ahead..

    I hope there’s a chorus of support for your claims about my comments.

    I’m sure the sock crowd will be along shortly to join in.

    ..

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2659148, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:11 am
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    The blowies are bad this season. I’ll shoo this one off again.
    Out of the window, and look – behold – she can fly.
    Hairy’s the one with the fly spray, not me.

    ..
    Remember men, we gave these people the vote and let them into our workplaces.
    How’s that working out for us?

  138. calli

    Thank you Arma. I was relying on the comments of others for the details (ie. Robinson interview).

    This is worse. Banned for a social experiment designed to make people stop and use their brains.

    Can’t have that.

  139. feelthebern

    Wow.
    Perry’s house is awesome.

  140. calli

    *note to self – research before commenting

  141. Arky

    I was prepared to let sleeping dogs lie.

    I’m not going to put up with an ongoing campaign of putdowns.

    You should have started with the comment that lead to my response, if you were a little bit honest.

    All I am asking is that she stop it.

    Btw, Serena JC Brettw etc stoushes are so much more edifying.

  142. calli

    Nice pool. I love the way the steps wrap around the balance tank.

    LED lighting is pretty standard these days. Don’t know why they mentioned it.

  143. We have a tag team of literatists (C.L) and Jesuits (Dover) who regard this as a refreshing morning exercise. The latter is especially noted as being full time on uprooting and replanting goalposts.

    LOL. I will take this from the lady that waves the white flag as she declares victory with the serious it deserves.

    Meanwhile, if you imagine that abortion is going to be banned in Austrslis, you are shouting at clouds.

    Yes, yes, and if you imagine that government is going to be minimized anytime soon you are shouting at clouds too, so best stop taking about it, hey?

  144. The Newsweek article I linked mentioned the Allah posters, btw

  145. JMH

    notafan
    #2659150, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:14 am

    Use your scroll function. I do!

  146. calli

    *Extra note to self – don’t speed read links before commenting

    😃

  147. C.L.

    I’m not sure what I’m a ‘literalist’ about – other than insisting that a human being is a human being.
    When you’re on the same side as Maxine Waters and Clem Ford, you should realise the jig is up.

  148. There has been some wonderful push back on abortion law in the US, so never say never.

    some good news on the pro Life front

  149. Abortion is murder, literally.

    Good advise JMH.

    I’ll try my best.

    I do recall when I first arrived at the cat Grigory trolling my comments telling me I was stupid.

    Nasty little man that he is.

  150. JC

    Architecture p*wn:

    Matthew Perry sells his stunning 1960s Hollywood Hills home.

    Love mid century.

  151. stackja

    Reverse racism real and deadly in South Africa
    CAROLINE MARCUS
    Caroline Marcus
    March 13, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    ANYONE who still denies reverse racism is real needs to look at what’s happening in South Africa.

    White farmers are being tortured, gang-raped and slaughtered in their own homes in terrifying numbers.

    The situation has become so bleak, being a farmer in South Africa is now the world’s most dangerous job.

    There are no official figures — thanks to a highly corrupt local government and police force, which have refused to release statistics since 2007 — but the Transvaal Agricultural Union that represents the country’s commercial farmers puts the murder rate at 138 per 100,000.

    Compare that to United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime statistics for the average homicide rates for Australia (1.3) and the notoriously violent South Africa more widely (31), and it starts to sink in how deadly it is to be white landowner there right now.

    Farm tortures have been part of South African reality for the better part of 30 years, coinciding with the end of apartheid, but the situation has become far more grim over time.

    Last year, there were a record 404 farm attacks, four times the number a decade ago, according to civil rights group AfriForum.

    Matters are only tipped to get worse, after the ruling African National Congress joined with the socialist party Economic Freedom Fighters two weeks ago to pass a motion to seize land from white farmers without compensation.

    The EFF’s leader Julius Malema, a radical convicted of hate speech in 2011 for repeatedly singing the banned apartheid-era song Shoot the Boer (an Afrikaans word for farmer), has ramped up his anti-white rhetoric.

    Unfortunately for the South African farmers, they’re largely stuck; they can’t sell up because groups like Black Land First threatens those who dare buy their farms and they — somehow — don’t meet the criteria for refugees.

    One exception was an elderly white farmer, whose wife and three others were burned to death in 1999.

    He was granted special permission to live in Queensland, but his lawyer told Toohey he feared a “backlash” if it became known our government had helped the man.

    You only have to look at Zimbabwe, where white farmers were chased out of the country under despot Robert Mugabe, to see how badly this story could end.

    Caroline Marcus is a journalist with Sky News.

    @carolinemarcus

  152. Des Deskperson

    I was walking past Old Parliament House yesterday – ‘Canberra Day’ – and noticed that the Aboriginal Tent Embassy -and surely that should be ‘Indigenous’ Tent Embassy – was looking shrunken, desolate and almost deserted.

    Normally at this time of year, both sides of the forecourt are lined with tents and caravans, but yesterday most of the eastern side was bare. The Embassy does tend to contract a bit in the winter months, but this time of year it is usually flourishing.

    I can’t think of an explanation, althoughI noted that electricity and water were still being supplied – presumably for free – from a junction box and a government garden tap. I assume these resources are being supplied by the National Capital Authority – a Commonwealth body – rather than by the ACT Government, as one might have expected on ideological grounds.

  153. Rae

    It’s true the elite are decadent. Here’s Bezos eating a fucking …iguana.

    Nothing decadent about it. Lots of people in the Caribbean eat iguana. Very popular in the Caymans. Tastes like chicken, so they say.

  154. JC

    Arky

    Nothing wrong with gluttonous, but gluttonous swine like fuckhead Bismarck isn’t the same thing.

    The dude was a scheming sack of shit who set the stage for both Ww1 &2.

    Knucklehead’s adoration of the Russian pork pie is hilarious.

    Oh, but he created a country

    …he created country through threats and intimidation like any authoritarian dickwad.

    Knucklehead is very low iq. A dim bulb.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lauren Southern
    @Lauren_Southern
    6h
    I’m not kidding about this, but during my questioning by the UK police… I was asked about my Christianity and whether I’m a radical. I was also asked how I feel about running Muslims over with cars.

  156. Baldrick

    Where’s the retarded lesbian, m0nty?

    BREAKING : The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence said it found “NO evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians.”

  157. OldOzzie

    notafan
    #2659156, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:27 am
    Judith Sloan also in the Oz reminding us that 20 story apartment blocks in the suburbs are not the answer.
    Old Ozzie might be along to share later.

    Seems like just another aspect of our culture we must abandon to the immigration racket.

    JUDITH SLOAN
    High-rise residential blocks in suburbs are not the solution

    I have lived most my life in suburban Melbourne. I know my mother always regarded the backyard as the most desirable feature of our home; with four energetic children, it was an invaluable, secure retreat.

    We could play cricket, bang the tennis ball against the back wall of the house and explore the garden while playing games. Mum would get on with the many chores that consumed her daily life, knowing that her children — often with various local playmates — were close by and occupied while enjoying the fresh air.

    I see this with my first daughter, who managed to produce four children in fewer than four years — twins are part of the brood, mind you. She has a secure backyard where the children can play imaginative games, bounce on the trampoline or kick the soccer ball until it deflates. She doesn’t have the time to take the children to the local park every day.

    Now we are led to believe that this way of life is essentially selfish. We need to get with the program. Residents should not be objecting to the rezoning of suburban land from one dwelling per lot to multiple dwellings per lot. And heaven forbid any objections from residents to height restrictions on taller dwellings.

    According to Reserve Bank boffins, 10-storey apartment blocks are just not high enough. What we really need is 20 storeys. Hang the facts that these buildings cast shadows across suburbs, create wind tunnels and are often built to such low standards they will end up as slums.

    Where once there were four to eight people living on 700sq m of land, those who know better down at the Grattan Institute want 10 times that. We need high and medium-density dwellings, according to them, if we are to improve housing — actually living space — affordability and avert the presumed disaster that fewer people in Australia will end up owning their own home — oops, living space.

    The fact there are many more people living in these suburbs without any other adjustments being made in terms of local amenities or transport links may call into question the judgment of these advocates of high-density living. They may make the case for these adjustments as well, although state and local governments won’t be listening — that’s for sure.

    For all these experts’ complaints about the appalling prevalence of nimbyism, make no mistake — infill development is occurring at a frightening pace across Melbourne, where annual population growth tops 100,000, thanks largely to immigration. Because the state government controls planning along arterial roads, any objections from local residents are inadmissable for new dwelling construction along them.

    As a result, houses on large blocks are being torn down and replaced with tall apartment buildings, generally with inadequate — sometimes no — parking.

    There are also some anomalous areas, such as the one around Melbourne High School in South Yarra, which has a curious zoning arrangement because of the previous existence of a chocolate factory. The plethora of poor quality high-rises there, many with only one bedroom, is an eyesore.

    And nothing has been done to transform the nearby South Yarra railway station, where it is common for commuters to wait more than 15 minutes just to get on the platform. The state government has no intention of upgrading it to accommodate the booming number of passengers.

    Readers from other cities will be familiar with similar instances of completely inappropriate infill developments.

    Should we believe the pontificating of the Reserve Bank researchers that zoning is adding $489,000 to the cost of a dwelling in Sydney and $268,000 in Melbourne? The short answer is no. The study is replete with assumptions and most of the data is sourced from the self-serving property sector. There are other much lower estimates that could be arrived at with different assumptions and different data.

    There is also their weird assumption that geography is somehow irrelevant. But if you think of the land formations and the waterways in Sydney, in particular, the scope for close-in development was always limited, a point former NSW premier Bob Carr always recognised.

    Even in Melbourne, there was always the opportunity to develop the city out to the west. But the west is flat, treeless and dry. It was entirely unsurprising that before we had these interfering boffins looking to criticise citizen-led development, that Melbourne developed in an easterly and southern direction to take advantage of the foothills and the sea. Melbourne has now developed out west, but it is still flat and dry, even if more trees have been planted.

    Then we have the RBA guesses about the impact of preventing apartment buildings having 20 storeys rather than 10. On the basis of limited data, the estimated additional cost per apartment is close to $400,000, or almost 50 per cent of the cost of buying an apartment in Sydney. My advice, however, is to regard this figure with a grain — perhaps many grains — of salt.

    So, what are these zealous advocates of high-density living really saying? Existing residents should have no rights over how their suburb is developed; there are no real reasons zoning should exist in any case (so a foundry or abattoir next to the apartment building would be fine); and if everyone were just to live in tiny dogboxes, then housing/living space would be much more affordable.

    But here’s the thing: the real message is that the population has been allowed to grow too fast. The “cost” of zoning has risen significantly during the past two decades because of the growth in demand — a point conceded by the Reserve Bank. And even the Grattan Institute now belatedly acknow ledges the case for cutting the immigration intake to ease the demand pressures on the housing market. That’s what this story is really about.

    I’m all for opening up new housing developments on the outer fringes of our cities.

    If there have been problems doing so in the past, it has been almost entirely the fault of state governments and the imposition of dubious city limits and excessive imposts.

    The complicity of certain property developers also should not be overlooked; they are often keen to create artificial shortages.

    In combination with good transport links and adequate local infrastructure, the real strategy should be to develop these areas to accommodate a more modest increase in the population flowing from a reduced migrant intake. However, I won’t be holding my breath for common sense to prevail.

    Had I wanted to live in New York, Hong Kong or London, I would have done so. I just happen to love a backyard, as do many other Australians.

  158. Zyconoclast

    So violence against men and boys is OK?
    Unitywater gains White Ribbon Workplace Accreditation
    Unitywater has been officially recognised as a leader in helping prevent and respond to violence against women.
    The water and sewerage services provider has been named a White Ribbon Workplace after undertaking an accreditation program over the last 18 months.
    CEO George Theo said he was proud that Unitywater’s commitment to preventing violence against women had been strengthened through the program.
    “This recognition from White Ribbon Australia demonstrates our long-term commitment to achieving a safe, gender equal and respectful workplace and that we have a strong stance against violence in our community,” he said.
    “We want our people to know that they have the resources and support available to them should they need it.
    “We all have a role to play in helping end violence against women.”
    The White Ribbon Australia Workplace Accreditation Program is nationally recognised and lasts three years.

    https://www.unitywater.com/newsroom/Unitywater-gains-White-Ribbon-Workplace-Accreditation

  159. Q&A last night sorely needed a Douglas Murray on the panel, however, I can think of no one in this country that fits the bill.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hillary is busy in India.

    Clinton: White Women Voted for Trump Because Their Husbands Told Them To (via Drudge)

    Hillary Clinton said that white women voted for President Trump during the 2016 presidential election because their husbands told them to, during a discussion at the India Today Conclave on Saturday.

    Hillary Clinton says ‘follow the money’ in the Trump-Putin ‘bromance’

    Oddly there’s not a single mention of “uranium” or “Clinton Foundation in the whole article. It’s a mystery.

    Hillary on North Korea

    “You cannot have diplomacy without diplomats,” former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told a Dutch newspaper this weekend.

    Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.

    Breathtaking.

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My God, that garret with a habour view must be torture!

    Well, it does get a bit crowded in here with four kids. 🙂
    Not that you’d know anything about that, Johanna.

    Although I hasten to add that Perpetua, who is an immediate friend (we just clicked together as people sometimes do), has no children, and my very good friend in Tasmania and a few simpatico others also have no children. Most of my women friends though have children and know that if you are burning midnight oil it is likely to be because you’re changing a nappy or racing off to taxi some teen home rather than because you are following unwanted advice to edit out adjectives and commas in some masculinized sentence aping Hemingway.

    Also, re Tolkien, some say the entire ‘Lord of the Rings’ is an allegory for this, that and the other.
    Whatever. I write what I write when I can manage to do so and when the iron is hot. It sure beats ironing. The Arthurian stuff is a type of research thesis. I already have two of those, so no hurry.

    My Sainted Mother is dead. She is probably in the Celtic Spiritual Otherworld, about which she had no doubts, sitting on the other side of the rainbow encouraging some Dutch female to have a go at me.

  162. John Constantine

    If we can only mass import enough people without superannuation, they will easily outvote old and deplorable racists with superannuation.

    Big Australia means welfare voteherds can vote to fund massive welfare voteherd importation by confiscation of racists superannuation.

  163. Rae

    And Channel Nein follows the Liar’s talking points.
    “Dividend franking credits date back to the Howard government”.
    Um, no.
    It was introduced by the Hawke-Keating government in 1987.

    No. You are incorrect. Normally one cannot receive a refund in excess of the tax actually paid. The Howard Government changed this with respect to dividend imputation by allowing those who pay no tax to receive a cash payment equivalent to the franking credits on their shares.

  164. struth

    The White Ribbon Australia Workplace Accreditation Program is nationally recognised and lasts three years.

    Buy a virtue signal.

    Supply water and STFU.

  165. 132andBush


    Franking credit rebates impacts every single super fund.
    Doesn’t matter if it’s a SMSF or an industry super fund.
    If Turnbull can’t make hay out of this, he is a retard.

    For sale, political capital hay, 8x4x3 bales, cut post flowering, raked 10 times, baled immediately after rain event, going mouldy so get it now before it all catches fire!
    $54 votes/bale, on farm +GST

  166. Top Ender

    Not so good now. Bandana Man may not have to peel his own bananas soon:


    Ten Network’s Sunday night news program hosted by Lisa Wilkinson has lost half its viewers since the former breakfast news anchor debuted the show in late January.

    The Sunday Project has shed half its viewers since its launch on January 28 and Bondi Rescue, which used to hold the same timeslot, was attracting more viewers this time last year, The Daily Telegraph reports.

    Wilkinson resigned from Nine’s Today in October after a decade in the job and moved to Ten to host The Project’s Sunday edition and co-host the program on Thursday and Friday.

    Link

  167. Stimpson J. Cat

    How about that House Intel Committee finding Monty?

  168. struth

    I remember the downfall of Channel Ten.

    They wanted to go all groovy and young.
    So they did.
    They had enough young wankers in decision making positions to sway that way.
    What a dismal failure that turned out to be.
    Then they hire the near 60 year old wrinkly Wilson.
    That’s groovy right there, that is!

  169. Zyconoclast

    I thought everyone in Tasmania was related to each other.

    Prison parenting program given $150k to help Tasmanian offenders connect and rehabilitate

    About 150 Tasmanian prisoners are set to take part in a program designed to improve parenting and family connections, after what is believed to be a world-first pilot program.
    Former Tasmanian Australian of the Year Rosie Martin and her charity Chatter Matters has run the Circle of Security program with both men and women in Tasmania’s Risdon Prison Complex.
    The program will be rolled out to prisoners when it receives $150,000 from the new State Government.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-13/prison-parenting-program-in-tasmania-needs-funding/9541684

  170. Hydra

    This tax proposal by Labor is draconian. Aboslutely disgusting.

    My 87 year old grand parents are going to cop a $10,000 extra tax bill just because they hold some CBA and BHP shares.

    They worked their arses off on a beef farm and paid taxes on the little income they had for 70 years.

  171. John Constantine

    To their shorten looting cartel, self managed super is theft from union managed super.

    We expect hideous compliance costs to be dumped upon self managed super, because ‘Safe Super’ can only be bought from unions.

  172. struth

    They wanted to go all groovy and young.
    So they did.

    There used to be a golden rule.
    Never talk about politics or religion.
    Never , while in Show business, alienate half of your audience, because you half your audience.

    When did this basic logic go out the window?

  173. Hydra

    It’s literally a bid to get people out of SMSFs and into union funds.

  174. House Intel Committee

    Now there is a contradiction in terms.

    Nunes deserves significant gaol time.

  175. Senile Old Guy

    Also, re Tolkien, some say the entire ‘Lord of the Rings’ is an allegory for this, that and the other.

    Tolkien stated, quite explicitly, that the Lord of the Rings was not allegorical. And he lived through WWI.

  176. C.L.

    Wow. Just wow.

    Peter Beattie had a moment to forget on national television.

    PETER Beattie’s tenure as the new ARL Commission chairman is off to a rocky start after an appearance alongside Phil Gould on Monday night.

    Beattie committed an embarrassing blunder after failing to name the Cronulla Sharks…

    … the former Queensland premier and self-described lifelong rugby league fan could not identify the team which plays out of the Sutherland Shire when quizzed by commentator Phil Gould…

    “Before you’re officially welcomed, you’ve got to answer one question,” Gould asked Beattie in a sit-down interview on the Nine Network’s 100% Footy on Monday.

    “The team that plays out of the Sutherland Shire — is it the Cronulla Hawks, the Cronulla Seagulls or the Cronulla Sharks?”

    Beattie proceeded to stumble over his answer and seemed unable to name the 2016 premiers.

    I’ll be honest, I wouldn’t have a bloody clue, but I’ll know next week,” Beattie said.

    “It’s got to be Cronulla of some kind.

    “It’s too bloody hard Gus, that’s too difficult.”

  177. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We should make South Africa a pariah state for its current extreme racism and blatantly murderous policies. I’d take the Clinton Foundation money away and put it into policies of resettlement in Australia for those who wish to leave. Fat chance of that happening though, even though a new supply of excellent farmers for our country areas would be a better sort of immigration than filling up our cities with African gangs.

  178. Stormy Daniels offers to return $130G to Trump in exchange for being able to speak about alleged encounter

    I am hearing Trump likes to be abused in the bedroom. What a beta.

  179. Mother Lode

    Got into the office this morning and opened up my email.

    I have received an invite to something which immediately roused my suspicions, titled “Close the Gap – Urban Renewal and Planning”.

    Apparently a guy, whose CV hints at no experience at all in urban planning or architecture, is going to educate us on issues instilling Aboriginal values into design.

    I find it hard to believe that there are Aboriginal values regarding permanent settlement, permanent dwellings (years, not days), roads, parks, infrastructure etc. It never would have entered their heads until the actual experts turned up in 1788.

    But more profoundly, I expect ideas like values as a separate kind of thinking to be applied to other abstractions, planning decades ahead, the logical of anticipating the results of decisions decades ahead, etc, have any Aboriginal precedent at all – except what was learned from the experts post 1788.

    Their nomadic subsistence lifestyles, on an unending quest for elusive sateity, simply would have lacked the opportunity to discover, much less practice such disciplines.

    The idea of standing before a crowd imparting analyses, the method of imparting it, and the method of then implementing it is not Aboriginal. It is just some guy (a Munnibludja from the Woddygunnagimmee country) is using a whitefella spiv technique to sponge off whitefella society.

    Oh, and it also says ‘Lunch provided’. Presumably they though better than to give us all spears and send us off to provide for ourselves.

  180. C.L.

    We have known for a long time that the only colluding with Russia was done by the DNC, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. They paid the Russians for the Steele dossier.

  181. stackja

    BS talking more BS. MSM have Union super? Won’t Union super have to pay sometimes?

  182. struth

    I should unsubscribe.
    Can you believe this email?

    Hi Struth,

    Catch up on a few things that happened this week:

    NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern came to Sydney, and we discussed trade, security and creating more liveable cities. Catch a highlight of our press conference in 360 below, or watch in full here.

    Lucy and I attended Mardi Gras – the first since Marriage Equality was achieved. Lucy also reminded me that we had our first date 40 years ago!

    At the Financial Review Business Summit in Sydney I spoke about open markets and how we can secure our long-term prosperity. Watch the Q&A with the AFR’s own Phil Coorey.

    Plenty of fun and (Comm) games – some of our amazing athletes visited The Lodge as we count down to the opening ceremony on the Gold Coast. From 4-15 April, we will welcome athletes from 70 Commonwealth nations and territories. Good luck to our incredible athletes!

    The Western Sydney City Deal is a long term plan for jobs, infrastructure, transport, education, and opportunity for Western Sydney. Watch this short clip to find out what it means for you and your family.

    All the best,

    Malcolm Turnbull

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  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    M0nty, ever thought that if Stormy can’t say stuff then she is entirely free to make things up as her only means of making a buck out of her notoriety. There are few big bucks merely in rumour and she knows it, so she has to double down to get anything at all.

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Nunes deserves significant gaol time.

    Cool story bro.
    Care to nominate a month when he will be incarcerated by?

  185. Zyconoclast

    Kagiso Rabada guilty of making contact with Steve Smith, to miss rest of Test series

  186. Rae

    This tax proposal by Labor is draconian. Aboslutely disgusting.

    My 87 year old grand parents are going to cop a $10,000 extra tax bill just because they hold some CBA and BHP shares.

    They worked their arses off on a beef farm and paid taxes on the little income they had for 70 years.

    No. The proposed Labor change to dividend imputation cannot result in the payment of additional tax. It will simply stop cash payments being made to persons in excess of the tax they have actually paid.

  187. Leigh Lowe

    Shorten’s brain fade is going to backfire bigtime.
    Where does he reckon super money will go in search of yield?
    Well, some of it will go into property and the long-sufferimg smashed avocado munchers will be at the back of the property queue … again.

  188. I said he deserves it Stimpy, not that he would get it.

    Lizzie, I see the 60 Minutes interview with her was held back this week. No doubt some furious negotiations going on behind the scenes.

  189. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty – You should be careful what you say about other people and their personal habits.

    It’s recognised widely by righties that the Left are very into projection.

  190. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tolkien stated, quite explicitly, that the Lord of the Rings was not allegorical. And he lived through WWI.

    I know that. Others still claim it to be allegorical in its ‘good’ vs ‘evil’ account.
    I read someone claiming it to be a foretelling of Nazism. As I said: this, that and the other.

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    We have known for a long time that the only colluding with Russia was done by the DNC, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. They paid the Russians for the Steele dossier.

    Long and detailed investigative report on this subject from Aaron Klein:

    Documents Link Putin’s ‘Favorite’ Oligarch and Obama Official Who Aided Author of Anti-Trump Dossier (12 Mar)

    As I was saying about the Left and projection…

  192. Senile Old Guy

    Tolkien stated, quite explicitly, that the Lord of the Rings was not allegorical. And he lived through WWI.

    I know that. Others still claim it to be allegorical in its ‘good’ vs ‘evil’ account.

    Many stories have a ‘good versus evil’ element: that does not make them allegorical.

    I read someone claiming it to be a foretelling of Nazism. As I said: this, that and the other.

    People can ‘claim’ anything; that does not make their claims plausible.

  193. I remember the downfall of Channel Ten.

    They wanted to go all groovy and young.
    So they did.
    They had enough young wankers in decision making positions to sway that way.
    What a dismal failure that turned out to be.
    Then they hire the near 60 year old wrinkly Wilson.
    That’s groovy right there, that is!

    This is a terrible demographic to go after since they are largely into streaming services and PirateBay.

  194. Rae

    I would expect that despite all the huffing and puffing by the Trump supporters, Stormy Daniels will succeed in having the confidentiality proviso overturned in the public interest. She might even be allowed to keep the $130,000 hush money.

  195. C.L.

    What are the crimes committed by Nunes, Monty?
    (This should be good).

  196. Rae

    The FISA Memo is a nothingburger, as I said many weeks ago. Whether Nunes, who engineered its release, has committed an indictable offence remains to be seen.

  197. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC continuing to rubbish Australia:

    Ai Weiwei: Chinese dissident artist critiques Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers ahead of Sydney Biennale

    This is ‘famous person criticises Australia so we are wrong’. Most of the ‘asylum seekers’ are economic migrants; a fair number now travel back to the countries they have supposedly fled.

    He is one of the world’s most famous artists and China’s best known dissident, and 60-year-old Ai Weiwei has a message for Australia when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers. “I struggle with Australia’s record towards refugees,” he said. “Australia is a nation of migrants and its culture accepts and tolerates difference. “But Australia’s refugee record is quite poor internationally. This is a very bad position for a state because people judge states on their acceptance and tolerance of people who need help.

    This is quoting ignorance. Australia takes more refugees per capita than any other country. There are many countries who take far fewer refuges than Australia.

    “There is no excuse for any kind of policy which does not consider or protect very basic human rights.”

    There is no ‘basic human right’ to country-shop, which even the UN recognises. Under international law, something the ABC never refers to, refugees are required to seek sanctuary in the first country they reach where it is safe to do so. Since these, so-called, ‘refugees’ traverse several countries to get to Australia, they are in violation of international law.

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I had a fish once called Stormy. He was a bloke.
    Well, I had that on good authority anyway.
    I don’t actually know how you’d tell.
    Stormy was a Siamese Fighting Fish.
    A great little guy.
    He died of exhaustion.

  199. Mother Lode

    When did this basic logic go out the window?

    They can get away with it now. People have become inured to it.

    The banks bent over backwards to push SSM. So the choice becomes whether it is worth re-investing your money somewhere you didn’t think to before to make a quixotic gesture that no one will ever notice (and lets be honest, they aren’t. The abused demographic is disparate and dispersed*), or to grin and bear it.

    We often talk about moving your custom elsewhere if you are vexed by the SJW policies of a company, but it is rarely practical. Even switching from Coles to Woollies (if there was an issue they were not in lockstep, that is) will likely mean making something as simple as shopping more logistically complicated. And neither Coles or Woollies would ever register.

    We have managers, but not so many entrepreneurs. Possibly as a result of the devotion to credentialism. You can get a degree showing you can do accounting – boring but established and safe. You can’t get one showing the an innovative genius – a talent for taking the risk for something not invented yet.

    Australian businesses seem to have little appetite for competition. They would rather settle into a mildly amicable rivalry. Look at the commercial TV stations. They all offer the same bland, prurient, infantile fare. Not one of them would think of breaking new ground.

    *In the US the emergence of the Tea Party and the support for Trump seemed to take everyone by surprise.

  200. Roger.

    This is ‘famous person criticises Australia so we are wrong’.

    The cultural cringe is alive and well at the ABC.

  201. CL: that visit to the White House followed by disclosure of classified information given to him by Ezra Cohen-Watnick, for a start. I don’t believe the obstruction of justice stuff could stand up though.

  202. Rae

    I had a fish once called Stormy.

    We had a fish once who jumped out of the tank overnight.
    Found him gasping on the carpet in the morning.
    Gently put him back in the tank and got him swimming.
    From then on we called him Lazarus.
    He lived another nine years.

  203. Tom

    So, Monty, you get off on being abused in the bedroom — way too much information.

    As JC says, the Cat is not that kind of blog.

  204. Tom

    H/T Bruce of Newk at 9.59 am.

  205. calli

    Whereas good stories bring people to goodness and truth through the power of beauty, formal allegories shackle the beautiful so that the goodness and truth become inescapable. Such allegories may have the good and noble purpose of teaching or preaching, but they do so at the expense of the power and glory of the imaginative and creative relationship between a good author and his readers.

    Well said. I think there may have been an element (in 1965) of differentiating his great work from his friend’s “The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe” first published in 1950. The Narnia stories are much closer to blunt allegory than the more nuanced LOTR.

  206. Mother Lode

    We had a fish once who jumped out of the tank overnight.

    Completely understandable. Suicide would be the second best, but only option.

    You can see why lefties are so anti-gun.

    If their fish, cats, dogs and birds were allowed AR-15’s there would be a 10 minute reckoning across the country followed by a lot of deceased estates in the inner cities.

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No one said a word about you during your brief absence.

    Naturally.

    Now stop it, you pathetic drama queen.

    Nope. Won’t. On your broomstick, you finger-wagging witch.

  208. Bruce of Newcastle

    Via Blazing Cat Fur:

    Guns Are Like Cats

    That’s not actually the headline, but if you read the story you’ll agree it ought to be. 😀

  209. notafan

    In hightsight the refund of tax not paid seems an extraordinary measure, and no doubt the amounts being refunded have snowballed colossally as people changed their investment strategies to take advantage.

  210. Tom

    Cheers Tom, snort, quack, chuckle.

    Delonas for me too.

    To appreciate the Delonas take on Trump and Phat Phuck Un, if you aren’t a movie buff, it helps to know that Jody Foster played the psychiatrist (Clarice Starling) opposite Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal Lecter) in Silence of the Lambs.

    Brilliant.

  211. JC

    Ladies please.
    It’s not that sort of blog.

  212. notafan

    That would be my preference too JC

  213. Dr BeauGan;
    Good on you for continuing the debate.
    I don’t have the patience for it anymore.
    It’s a bit like the arguments the finest minds of the Middle Ages wasted themselves on.
    In the end no one could decide how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, and we are poorer for the waste of intellectual capital.

  214. lotocoti

    I remember the downfall of Channel Ten.
    They wanted to go all groovy and young.
    So they did.

    For decades they owned the 18-34 demographic.
    While Seven and Nine were fighting each other trying to sell Toyotas and Holdens on slim margins, Ten was making a lot of money selling Coke and Pepsi.
    Ten’s problems only began when they had to fight for their market.

  215. EvilElvis

    …especially with a bit of soft porn for the old blokes.

    Us young fellas go for a bit of that to, Johanna. I could easily be swayed to your thinking with just a hint of sauciness and a dash of Mills & Boon. 😉

  216. notafan

    In the end no one could decide how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, and we are poorer for the waste of intellectual capital.

    Didn’t happen,

    Being able to differentiate between a medical intervention to save a life and murder is worth discussing, I say.

  217. Senile Old Guy

    Well said. I think there may have been an element (in 1965) of differentiating his great work from his friend’s “The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe” first published in 1950.

    I don’t think so. As you say, they were great friends, and they had weekly gatherings of writers (the ‘Inklings’, IIRC) at a local pub where they discussed, and read from, the books and stories they were writing. Further, Tolkien discussed the LOTR in detail with his son, Christopher, which we have a record of in their letters. The LOTR grew out of The Hobbit, although Tolkien had to go back and revise The Hobbit to make it fit in with the later story of The One Ring. On the other hand, both Tolkien’s and Lewis’ writing were influenced by their religion.

    But Tolkien was the first to really build a world, with countries, peoples and histories. To understand this, you probably need to read The Silmarillion:

    The Silmarillion (pronounced: /sɪlmaˈrɪljɔn/) is a collection of mythopoeic works by English writer J. R. R. Tolkien, edited and published posthumously by his son, Christopher Tolkien, in 1977, with assistance from Guy Gavriel Kay.[2] The Silmarillion, along with J. R. R. Tolkien’s other works, forms an extensive, though incomplete, narrative that describes the universe of Eä in which are found the lands of Valinor, Beleriand, Númenor, and Middle-earth within which The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings take place.

    Lewis (and no other writer) never attempted anything like this.

  218. thefrollickingmole

    Sean Delonas for me today, the little blurred outlines behind Kim are the icing on the cake.

  219. JC

    I’m on an American Airlines flight from NY to LA. The cabin is just far superior to qantas. The movie selection is cool and there’s internet service. The staff are old boilers and beats flamboyant gays.

    I own AA in my investment portfolio (never to be touched ). It’s a really well run airline who’s CEO is the best heterosexual airline CEO in the world. At 7 bucks a share I’ll be selling Qan and throwing the money into AA …and it will get there.

  220. Zyconoclast

    Paul Allen’s Stratolaunch, world’s largest plane, takes next steps towards launch

    A massive airplane being built by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen moved a step closer to flight this month, when it crept out of its hangar in Mojave, California. and practiced rolling down the runway, hitting a top speed of 74 km/h.
    Known as Stratolaunch, the plane has a wingspan even greater than that of business mogul Howard Hughes’ famed Spruce Goose, and is designed to carry as many as three rockets, tethered to its belly, to about 35,000 feet (10,000 metres). Once aloft, the rockets would drop, then fire their engines and deliver satellites to orbit.

    http://www.traveller.com.au/paul-allens-stratolaunch-worlds-largest-plane-takes-next-steps-towards-launch-h0x4ff#ixzz59a5oYn59

  221. EvilElvis

    Not to put it too delicately, is a woman who has had four children likely to have a tighter vagina than one who has had sex with multiple men?

    The cock-masters here have frequently enjoyed circle-jerks together about how ‘loose women’ have less desirable nethers because others have been there. Next, we hear how motherhood is fantastic, although for most women it means a bit less elasticity.

    Depends on a few physical things Johanna and also on the male test subject.

    One thing that is a winner is attitude and confidence. Nothing worse than the perfect body that can’t use it for what its designed for.

  222. notafan

    Thankyou SOG for adding to my knowledge of the great J R R

    Many have followed in his footsteps

  223. JC

    Am getting greedy, praying to the good Lord for one Asian Trump stockmarket puke per week? Asking for one a day could really piss him off and I don’t want to do that.

  224. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    TREASURY

    Shorten’s class-war $59bn tax on wealthy shareholders, retirees, super funds

    The Australian
    12:00AM March 13, 2018

    Simon Benson
    NATIONAL AFFAIRS EDITOR
    Sydney
    @simonbenson

    Bill Shorten has opened a new front in his class-war tax grab on the wealthy, with a pledge to axe cash refunds for excess imputation tax credits claimed by super funds, which are estimated to balloon to almost $60 billion over the next 10 years.

    Unwinding a superannuation measure introduced by the Howard government, the Opposition Leader will announce today that a Labor government will abolish the rebate component of the ­imputation credits system that benefits primarily high-wealth shareholders and self-managed super funds by allowing them to cash in unused imputation credits.

    Mr Shorten claims that the chief target of the policy is about 200,000 of the 600,000 self-­managed super funds in the ­country, the largest of which have been claiming up to $2.5 million in cash rebates under the imputation credit system. Labor says the policy will not apply to 92 per cent of the 12.8 million Australians who lodge annual tax returns.

    While 90 per cent of the tax hit is directed at self-managed super funds, a small number of “low-income, high-wealth” retirees could also be caught in the net if, for example, they had other assets held in tax-free superannuation funds.

    From the Oz. If the Coalition can’t kick Whining William from here to Hell and back on this issue, they deserve to be out of office for a long, long time.

  225. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2659275, posted on March 13, 2018 at 10:43 am

    I’m on an American Airlines flight from NY to LA. The cabin is just far superior to qantas. The movie selection is cool and there’s internet service. The staff are old boilers and beats flamboyant gays.

    I own AA in my investment portfolio (never to be touched ). It’s a really well run airline who’s CEO is the best heterosexual airline CEO in the world. At 7 bucks a share I’ll be selling Qan and throwing the money into AA …and it will get there.

    Given Shortarse’s impending pillaging I am now going to do a bit more offshore stuff.
    People talk about Forex risk, but a chunk of our retirement assets will have to be used to buy foreign sourced stuff (holidays, cars, anything manufactured) anyway, so it makes sense.

  226. Rae

    To appreciate the Delonas take on Trump and Phat Phuck Un, if you aren’t a movie buff, it helps to know that Jody Foster played the psychiatrist (Clarice Starling)

    Tom, it would help if you did not make assumptions or interpretations based on your imperfect knowledge.

    Clarice Starling was not a psychiatrist. She was a student at the FBI Academy.

  227. cynical1

    http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56555

    Any of those women should have the right to dispose of Satan’s spawn.

  228. Mother Lode

    In the end no one could decide how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, and we are poorer for the waste of intellectual capital.

    I looked into that.

    Washington Irving made it up because he didn’t like the Scholastics.

    And he was angry because women would say “Hey, that is like a penis. Only smaller.”

    He may have got the idea from a question raised as to whether an angel disappearing at one point and appearing in another, had to pass through the points in between. It went to divine nature and the physical world.

    Later brilliant minds pondered weather light took time to reach a point of if the effect of a light source was instantaneous.

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