Monday Forum: March 12, 2018

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  1. cohenite

    Presently, shareholders are able to use imputation credits to reduce their tax or claim it as a cash refund if the value of the credits exceeds their tax liabilities. Under Labor’s policy, the credits can be used only to reduce tax liabilities and cash refunds will not be paid. The Turnbull government is likely to seize on the measure as a class-war tax raid on the retirement savings of average Australians.

    Mr Shorten claims that average Australians and wage earners will not be hit by the changes to a system that he says has become an unsustainable taxpayer-funded loophole being exploited by only the very wealthy.

    The move will open a war chest estimated to be worth $11bn in the final two years of the four-year budget forward estimates that the opposition is likely to put towards income tax cuts to match or ­exceed any commitment made by the Turnbull government.

    This is a shrewd move by tits. Turdball won’t be able to counter it by simply saying the cash refund is like any other refund for over-paying tax. That’s all he has to do; watch him fuck it up.

  2. Winston:

    The waste of intellectual capital remains, but.

    There is no waste of intellectual capital in the following: Doctrine of Double Effect. None at all. Thought on this actually achieves a positive return.

  3. egg_

    ‘We’ll be left behind’: Greens want 2030 ban on fossil-fuel car sales

    That’s what lemmings always say.

    Can we have a Greens bonfire by 2030?
    /NADT

  4. Mark A

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2659561, posted on March 13, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    3D printed home. Cost $10,000 and likely fall to $4,000.

    It’s a gimmick, and fraudulent to quote $10k let alone 4K.
    What about the foundation, roofing, plumbing electricity etc.?
    Modular construction methods were patented in Australia as early as 1900.
    Calli probably could confirm it, we can put up a much bigger house today using precast concrete panels in the same time or less.

    You have to remember, they had to deliver and set up the ‘printer’ before printing, and that was time on top of the actual printing.

    There is room for improvement in construction and ‘3D printing’ is not the answer.

  5. herodotus

    Paul Toohey on Miranda Live, on the subject of South African white farmers being killed and/or dispossessed.
    He says the “international community” has to put pressure on the SA government to rectify this situation.
    Haha! That’s the international community that brought about disastrous black rule in the former Rhodesia and South Africa.
    Take a bow, international community. You are effing useless.

  6. OneWorldGovernment

    I think The Watermelon Greens should push billy boy shorton even further and push for the elimination of the outrageous Depreciation provisions in the Tax ‘law’.

  7. OneWorldGovernment

    Mark A
    #2659582, posted on March 13, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2659561, posted on March 13, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    3D printed home. Cost $10,000 and likely fall to $4,000.

    It’s a gimmick, and fraudulent to quote $10k let alone 4K.

    x1000

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Paul Toohey on Miranda Live, on the subject of South African white farmers being killed and/or dispossessed.

    I don’t understand. During the bad old days of apartheid, Australia cut all sporting ties with South Africa. Today, with white farmers being murdered on an almost daily basis, the Australian cricket team is touring the country.

    #WhiteLivesDontMatter.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    You have to remember, they had to deliver and set up the ‘printer’ before printing, and that was time on top of the actual printing.

    There is room for improvement in construction and ‘3D printing’ is not the answer.

    You’re right.
    The one I saw had a nozzle mounted on a kind of track (which would have to be reasonably heavy duty).
    And it had me stumped what you would do with lintels.

  10. notafan

    Yes it does DB

    Much better than running around crashing into each other with jumpers over the head pretending to be winners!

    Hundreds of years of thought against a couple of pretentious know it alls on a blog.

  11. I don’t mind debating the catholic tag team, Johanna, when I have time. Watching them tie themselves in quibbles to avoid saying anything politically incorrect by the standards of the middle ages looks very like lefties doing the same. Different religion, but same commitment to the party line. Some people are natural slave material, I guess.

    Dear oh dear.

  12. Mother Lode

    Trumble should ferret around in the Liberal party for someone who can talk to a point, and not to their own ego.

    He himself, of course, every time he opens his mouth, has a top priority of showing off how smart he is. I personally have grave doubts about this. A lawyer who can’t pitch his speech to his audience would have been a walk over in court. And as for more profound intelligence – Rudd and Swan ran rings around him, as does Tits every day. His every idea since has blown up in his face.

    Talk though it with examples.

    There are a lot of people out there who have no doubt (from experience) that Shorten is lying and reaching for people’s wallets. They are fully seized of the knowledge of what a Labor government is going to do to them. But they may not understand how he is doing it. He isn’t going to tell, and the APS will be content to have increased taxes go through.

    People are craving to have this explained to them.

  13. Rae

    socialist pricks like you deserve piano wire

    Much as I am forced to abhor violence, this should be a liberty quote.

    Hmm, perhaps. But for fat Zippy, it would need to be long piano wire. Alas, I prefer the sound it makes on the 88 keys of my piano. Much better than the desperate gargling noise he would make. And I’m right out of work gloves.

    Btw. I expect that the nasty Twitter roach will soon shout at you both.

  14. OldOzzie

    Retirees sent ‘back to drawing board’

    The peak body representing self managed super funds has attacked Labor’s proposal to claw back nearly $60bn over the decade by abolishing cash refunds for excess dividend imputation credits.

    The SMSF Association has today warned that the Labor policy will cut about $5000 of income from the median SMSF retiree earning about $50,000 a year in pension income.

    It also warns the proposed shake-up would affect more than one million Australians by changing rules that have been in place for nearly two decades.

    SMSF Association chief executive John Maroney said that investors had geared their portfolios around refundable franking credits, arguing the Labor policy would “undermine confidence in the system and send many retirees back to the drawing board to rethink their retirement income strategies.”

    “It is our contention that this proposal will affect more than one million Australians saving for their retirement and other purposes. Our calculations show it will cut about $5000 of income from the median SMSF retiree earning about $50,000 a year in pension income. To be saying these people won’t be paying any more tax is just semantics.”

    Mr Maroney said the hit on retirement incomes was clearly “not just affecting the very wealthy and can substantially damage the lifestyles of retirees who have prudently saved and are carefully drawing down on their retirement savings.”

    “Viewing all SMSFs as belonging to the mega-rich is an over simplification,” he said.

    Mr Maroney also said that Labor’s proposed changes to dividend imputation could also have unforeseen consequences.

    “It’s likely to lead to a shift in superannuation fund investment strategies. Funds seeking yield to deliver retirement income, especially SMSFs which are paying income streams, would need to shift their asset allocation towards investments which can provide increased yield,” he said.

    From the Comments

    – Shifty Bill won’t be getting my money. My investments will be pulled and my family will get an early inheritance and there will be one less self funded retiree and one extra part pensioner. Unintended consequences but foreseeable..

    – Yes I have just filled in the form to make a large withdrawal from my account and transfer it to my bank account. My 3 sons will do some reno work on the house and get paid some “sit down” money so that it is not a gift and then I am off to centrelink.

    – The Left voters should now realise somebody has to pay for Labor and Greens’ open border and state and federal big government policies.

    – have always had utter contempt for Shorten – the weasel who took political advantage of miners trapped underground to get his ugly mug out there-

    And then this filth and his gormless team are trying to ensure many will end up on the pension in stead of being able to fund retirement themselves.

    – Mr Shorten: “I think experts in America say is driving job creation in America is actually depreciation”

    Yes Bill, you’ll depreciate Australia.

    But no jobs as a result.

    – Bill Shorten says SMSFs earn $2.5 million from cash refunds of double taxation. The SMSF Association says on average its $5000. Old Bill is telling more tall tales.

    – Guess which “truth” the ABC decides to editorialize. The national broadcaster is right there to defend ALP policy every step of the way.

    – This is a policy devised by public servants who will not be effected by it in their retirement and to be implemented by politicians who are just interested in class warfare to win an election.

    Sorry about all the people who have scrimped and saved for their retirement, they do not count.

    – Time to draw out your super so Labor cannot get it. Shorten was always going to do this. The LNP should have been pre warned/prepared. Shorten now saying he is following Trump well that is sick. The Left have derided Trump all along.

    – What’s “excess dividend imputation credits”? No such thing. There’s just imputation credits. It’s because the company has already paid the tax involved. Shorten is planning on double taxation for the same thing – placing all company share dividends under question.

    – So much for working hard, taking financial risks and saving not wasting.

    – Shorten is such a short sighted imbecile. He either looks back at prior Labor Govt ‘initiatives’ or checks out what the US might be doing. His entire Govt are totally lacking any credibility who simply cannot introduce “new policy” that benefits Australians, the Australian Economy and a future for generations to come…

    – Private school boy (Xavier College – Melbourne); Maurice Blackburn (We fight for Fare – sorry Fair) lawyer. BS takes the cake – he had the highest Comcar expenditure than any other Federal politician but as a true man of the people leaves the driver to wait all day for his return trip home. What a great bloke.

    Every government or would be government wants to fiddle with the super. I thought the concessions were to keep people from drawing a government pension. Maybe we should pull our money out and piss it against the wall and fall back on an OAP.

    AUSTRALIA Once the Lucky Country, NOW Governed by Loosers , Lefties , Lawyers and Lunatics .

    – This policy seems to be a brain fart thought up by babbling Bowen, Chalmers, Leigh and once the “worlds greatest Treasurer” Swan. It’s going to end in tears for a lot of helpless retirees.

    – Interesting !

    Some valid points in this policy.

    But what are the consequences:

    1. not a lot really !

    2. people would still buy Aussie shares because they want the imputation credit of 30%. At least it reduces the 15% tax in income of super funds to zero even if the excess credits are not refunded.

    3. It would force people to use up more of their super capital to live and this may result in more people eventually drawing age pensions when super contributions and balances have been capped.

    4. It would reduce the Australian home bias in investing in Australian shares because in pension phase there is no tax anyway, so why bother investing here when the world markets of Europe and USA are much more diversified.

    5. No doubt it would change how people plan their investments and plan their retirement. Thy will need more super or more retirement.

    6. Property, new, may receive a big boost because at least some deductions will be available.

    7. Confidence in political parties and the taxation system in Australia will fall because of constantly changing tax laws which will mean people cannot successfully plan retirement or investments.

    8.The plan is backward looking in policy. While the world has learnt that “CONSUMPTION” is growing and is the most, repeat, MOST , effective way to tax the population ,Australia is still living in the 20th Century. As the world population moves into the middle class, as in fact people move out of poverty, consumption grows and this is the most effective taxation method. Of course the marginal personal taxation system needs to accommodate those people in the community who earn less.

    9.This will definitely drive the cash economy for small business.

    10. This will definitely ‘sap’ incentive.

    11. Apathy to politics , politicians and media will increase even further as people have even less confidence in the governing system. This will result in increased cash holdings in overseas bank accounts to allow more flexibility in changing where people hold assets and want to live.

    All in all, other countries are more appealing every day!

  15. Leigh Lowe

    This is a shrewd move by tits. Turdball won’t be able to counter it by simply saying the cash refund is like any other refund for over-paying tax. That’s all he has to do; watch him fuck it up.

    He will over-explain and make it sound exactly as Tits and his MSM acolytes have described it … a dodgy loophole.
    Truth is, he would love to screw over lesser mortals after having ridden of the coat-tails of some dubious shit to make his own fortune.
    Ozemail FFS!

  16. Leigh Lowe

    This is a shrewd move by tits. Turdball won’t be able to counter it by simply saying the cash refund is like any other refund for over-paying tax. That’s all he has to do; watch him fuck it up.

    He will over-explain and make it sound exactly as Tits and his MSM acolytes have described it … a dodgy loophole.
    Truth is, he would love to screw over lesser mortals after having ridden of the coat-tails of some dubious shit to make his own fortune.
    Ozemail FFS!

  17. thefrollickingmole

    If rae propounds
    scroll must be found

    Leave the billy willy sock alone…

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Paul Toohey on Miranda Live, on the subject of South African white farmers being killed and/or dispossessed.

    I don’t understand. During the bad old days of apartheid, Australia cut all sporting ties with South Africa. Today, with white farmers being murdered on an almost daily basis, the Australian cricket team is touring the country

    #WhiteLivesDontMatter

  19. Rae

    Has anyone wondered how soul destroying it must be to have to mop up Bill Shortens effusions and regurgitate them in an effort to get responses as a sock puppet of a well known mummie enthusiast?

    Probably only you, mole. And likewise for that well-slimed shaft you keep waving around, small as it is.

  20. Australia really needs a Trump.

    Trump would’ve come out and simply tweeted “Bill Shorten will go down in history as the man who killed superannuation”.

    It would be dead and buried in an unmarked grave right then and there.

    Instead, we have Trumbull.

  21. OldOzzie

    Paul Keating backs Labor over dividend imputation windback

    Former Labor prime minister and father of dividend imputation, Paul Keating, has backed the Opposition’s proposal to abolish cash refunds for shareholders who pay little or no tax.

    Mr Keating, who as treasurer introduced dividend imputation in 1987, told The Australian Financial Review that the change by the Howard government to introduce cash refunds was never sustainable.

    “This is a return to the clarity and simplicity of the dividend imputation that I introduced in 1987,” Mr Keating said.

    “I made no provision for cash back. The cash backs were only ever affordable by a big spike in national income and that spike in national income has long gone.”

    “The key thing is the Labor party is still committed to dividend imputation.”

    On Tuesday, Mr Shorten announced that Labor, if elected, would end the system in which shareholders will not be entitled to a cash refund if their imputation credit on their dividend is more than their total tax bill.

    This will affect about 200,000 of the 600,000 who use self-managed superannuation funds along with another 1.2 million taxpayers.

    Dividend imputation entitles a shareholder to a tax credit, or imputation credit, on a dividend which is equivalent to the company tax already paid on that dividend.

    Under the changes introduced by the Howard government in 2000, if a shareholder, be it an individual or a superannuation fund, had an imputation credit higher than the tax they paid, then they would receive the excess as a cash refund from the Australian Tax Office.

    At the time of the change, it cost the budget $550 million a year but that cost has increased tenfold since and Labor says it is a structural impost the budget can no longer afford.

    Former Liberal treasurer Peter Costello, who implemented the change, noted on Tuesday that it was recommended by the Ralph Review into business taxes and was supported by Labor at the time on the basis it helped low income earners and retirees.

    Mr Keating confirmed he was consulted on the Labor policy proposal and gave it his imprimatur.

    He said he originally introduced dividend imputation to even up the balance “between the prerogatives of (company) managers versus shareholders”.

    “With dividend imputation, a manager now has to manage the capital efficiently. The manager has to meet the discipline of paying the dividend and determining appropriate capital investment in the business,” he said.

    “Before dividend imputation, it was a spending melee by managers who burned value hand over fist.

    “It put a discipline on managers to pay dividends and to manage their capital appropriately”.

    Labor believes its policy may encourage companies to pay a little less attention to dividends and invest more.

  22. johanna

    I note that anti-Trumpers are certain that he will be outsmarted if he meets with Fatboy, because a couple of months of in-depth research by the State Department and whoever else is not enough to equip him. Apparently, until now nobody has done any work on this. Yeah, right.

    Because what is needed is a couple of years and hundreds of millions of dollars to tell The Donald how to make a deal. Actually, their livelihood depends on him not making a deal, but let us pass on.

    All over the MSM, people are saying that he is Charlie Brown and Fatty is holding the football.

    These are the same people who said that he could never be elected, and that he could never force NK to the negotiating table. But now, apparently, he’s the gormless Charlie Brown.

    They want their President to fail, for partisan reasons. Traitors, the lot of them.

  23. OneWorldGovernment

    Vote 1
    “Billy Bob” Shorten
    Labor without U
    All your money belongs to us.

  24. OldOzzie

    Activist Neil Erikson lashed by judge for Toll uniform stunt

    Far-right activist Neil Erikson has been called “pathetic” by a federal judge and could face imprisonment after breaching court orders relating to his use of a Toll company uniform.

    Erikson appeared before the Federal Circuit Court this morning to argue against costs being awarded to Toll for their contempt proceedings against him.

    Erikson was found guilty of contempt last month over his posting a video on YouTube in which former Senator Sam Dastyari was called a “terrorist” and told “go back to Iran”. Toll Group took action because the video showed Erikson wearing a Toll shirt during the encounter.

    In court today Erikson said he was an unemployed forklift driver and had no assets.

    But barrister Myles Tehan, for Toll, said Erikson appeared in a video uploaded to social media on February 19 — after he had been found guilty of contempt — where he said he had to go to work.

    Erikson declined to give sworn evidence as to whether he was in fact employed.

    Judge Suzanne Jones said Erikson was enjoying the media attention but Erikson said he was just punching above his weight at a big company.

    “That’s just rubbish, I’m not listening to that rubbish,” Judge Jones said.

    Erikson arrived at court wearing a Toll vest which he claimed to have bought at an Op shop for $2.

    He had altered the vest by inserting an ‘R’ between the ‘T’ and ‘O’.

    “Do you think it’s smart wearing a vest here?” Judge Jones said.

    “Do you think it’s amusing? You look pathetic. That is such childlike behaviour in this court which is a serious court.”

    Judge Jones told him he could throw the vest in a court bin then and there.

    Erikson asked if he had to and declined to do so. He said he was willing to sell the vest back to Toll for $2.

    He said the vest was a reference to Toll’s “hysterical” behaviour over a simple shirt.

    Contempt in the Federal Circuit Court can result in a fine, seizure of assets or imprisonment.

    Judge Jones has reserved her decision until further written submissions are received from Toll and Erikson but said she doubted Erikson would make submissions.

  25. calli

    They want their President to fail, for partisan reasons. Traitors, the lot of them.

    Hate induced blindness.

  26. Rae

    I’m in the LA terminal right now , Tom. We’re going straight through as I hate the place.

    Even with the remodeling/refurbishing that was done there, LAX is not a welcoming place for a stopover. Unless you travel Premium Economy or Business Class so you can enjoy some comfort in the Lounge.

  27. Leigh Lowe

    “Viewing all SMSFs as belonging to the mega-rich is an over simplification,” he said.

    No it’s not.
    It’s a fucking lie.
    As illustrated this morning, the example in the ALP’s talking points of a fund pulling $2.5 m in franking refunds implies a fund with ASX shares of at least $100 m (maybe $200 m depending on phase of fund).
    I’ll bet there is approximately one fund Australia-wide with that value in shares.

  28. calli

    No automatic access to lounges in PE, only BC or FC.

    Qantas gives its FFs one access per annum only.

  29. OldOzzie

    Former DNI James Clapper Allegedly Leaked to CNN, investigation revealed

    House Intelligence Committee finds no evidence of Trump Russia collusion


    Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper allegedly leaked information to CNN early last year regarding the classified briefings given to then President-Elect Donald Trump and President Barrack Obama on the salacious dossier claiming the Russians had compromising information on the president-elect, according to government sources, who noted the evidence of the leak was collected during the House Intelligence Committee’s Russia investigation.

    Clapper, who was one of four senior Obama administration officials to attend the briefing with the presidents, also stated his “profound dismay at the leaks” in an official statement issued in January, 2017 and warned that the leaks were “extremely corrosive and damaging” to national security, according to his press release.

    Texas Republican Mike Conaway, R-Texas, announced Monday in a press release, that the committee found no evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. The Republican members released only a portion of the committee’s findings in the late afternoon. The full report will undergo a review to ensure that it does not reveal or damage national security before its public release, congressional sources added. The committee interviewed its final witness former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski last week and had accessed all documents related to its probe, a congressional source told this reporter.

    “We’ve interviewed all the folks we needed too,” Conaway told Fox News Monday. “We could find no evidence of collusion between either campaign and the Russians.”

  30. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It comes after the banking regulator launched new rules early last year, requiring banks to limit the number of interest-only loans to less than 30 per cent of new business, as part of an attempt to cool the property market by limiting investor lending.

    who says we are not a centrally planned economy. APRA are those people that clean up the blood at the scene of a crime, in this case federal policy crimes.

    Uncontrolled stolen money fleeing the communists and 400,000 new arrivals seem to be having an effect on property prices, let’s forget about the root causes and make like Stalin central planning committee and punish investors.

    Let’s back up the tape. Gender policies pursued by both side of the politic in the 70s have plunged the birth rate below replacement, which is now starting to bite. To combat this gdp apocalypse, both side of politics are engaging in a literal population replacement on a scale never seen before in history. Unfortunately the replacements are not quite what they are cracked up to be. But of course in marxist la la land where all people are the same you can’t possible admit this, as it would undermine your entire ideology, better to double down and import even more.

    Is the population implosion covered anywhere in the MSM? Does the government have any policy beyond pushing on with The Great Replacement™ to deal with our population implosion?

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Vote 1
    “Billy Bob” Shorten
    Labor without U
    All your money belongs to us.

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

  32. OneWorldGovernment

    Hey “Billy Bob” Shorten.

    Why don’t you wipe out the pernicious ‘allowance’ given to business for off-road use of excisable fuel?

    It’s just a grant from Australian Taxpayers.

  33. Rae

    The franking credit bank will become worthless once their shorten looting cartel begins their thousand years of woe, so needs to be passed on in the next year.

    The “franking credit bank” will be unaffected by the Labor proposal. What will be stopped is the payment of cash to people in excess of the tax they have paid.

  34. feelthebern

    Every April/May, even the smallest retail or industry super fund gets a little bit of cash back from the ATO from the prior year.
    If you don’t have a smsf, check your statements.

  35. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Paul Toohey on Miranda Live, on the subject of South African white farmers being killed and/or dispossessed.

    Can somebody explain something? During the bad old days of the apartheid era, Australia cut all sporting ties with South Africa. White farmers are being murdered at an appalling rate, yet the Australian cricket team is touring the country?

    #WhiteLivesDontMatter?

  36. feelthebern

    The “franking credit bank” will be unaffected by the Labor proposal. What will be stopped is the payment of cash to people in excess of the tax they have paid.

    Spoken like a person on a zero risk, index linked, defined benefit, tax payer funded pension.
    Ie, a tax eater.

  37. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “I made no provision for cash back. The cash backs were only ever affordable by a big spike in national income and that spike in national income has long gone.”

    I wonder where it went? Oh that’s right the population is in terminal decline. The white productive population that is.

  38. OneWorldGovernment

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2659616, posted on March 13, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Vote 1
    “Billy Bob” Shorten
    Labor without U
    All your money belongs to us.

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    Someone has to pay for the ‘Commonwealth’ Department of Euthanasia.

  39. Cactus

    One of my favourites is when Treasury Boffins/politicians price up some change in regulation or tax and say that it will raise $[x]m over [x] years. They just cant get it in their head that people will move heaven and earth if they can to change their behaviour to limit tax. I guess its cause they have never worked to make wealth – they just assume it exists.

    If they tinker too much with franking credit regime, then Australian companies may do as it was suggested earlier – not pay dividends and just do on market buybacks. Shortens $5.6bn a year will just not eventuate. I remember it with the Mining Tax. I calculated the MRRT would raise nothing. The official estimates were $10bn or something intitally ultimately written down to $500m-ish by the time it was repealed. But the spending is baked in forever and often higher than estimated.

  40. Rae

    They want their President to fail, for partisan reasons. Traitors, the lot of them.

    Not really. Lots of people want their heads of state to fail, in whatever they do. Most of the denizens of the Cat want Turnbull to fail. That doesn’t make them traitors.

  41. thefrollickingmole

    Mop, mop, mop goes Billys sock.

    Then regurgitates Billy juice over the screen in another attempt to seem worth responding to.

    Youd need a heart of stone not to laugh.

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    What will be stopped is the payment of cash to people in excess of the tax they have paid.

    incoherent drivel. best you fuck off.

  43. cohenite

    OldOzzie

    #2659607, posted on March 13, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Activist Neil Erikson lashed by judge for Toll uniform stunt

    Brave guy.

  44. feelthebern

    Leigh Lowe, consider this.
    Bill Shorten gets elected & this scheme comes in July 1st 2019.
    That means we are in for the biggest distribution of franking credits to shareholders between now & June 30th 2019.

    Also, if a profitable company restructures itself to a dual operating holding company & then underneath that splits further into a stapled structure, a company could manage to pay distributions via an untaxed trust structure plus a franked dividend, to effective match off any liability so franking credits aren’t wasted.

    It’s an EGM & 50mill in fees to KPMG etc away.

  45. cohenite

    The Judge who is threatening Erikson:

    Ms Suzanne Jones

    Ms Jones holds a Bachelor of Economics from Monash University and a Bachelor of Laws from University of Melbourne.

    From 1977 to 1979, Ms Jones was the associate to Deputy President Isaac of the Australian Conciliation and Arbitration Commission. In 1984, Ms Jones commenced work at the Australian Council of Trade Unions, become a Senior Industrial Officer in 1989 and a National Advocate in 1999.

    In 2001, Ms Jones was admitted to practice in the Supreme Court of Victoria. As a barrister, Ms Jones practised in a range of areas, in particular industrial and employment law, discrimination law, personal injury law and immigration law. Her longstanding commitment to these practice areas is indicated by her appointment as part-time Commissioner to the Victorian Commission for Gaming Regulation from 2005 to 2011. In addition, Ms Jones was Chair on the Victorian Law Reform Commission Advisory Committee on Employment/Work Place Relations Matters from 2002 to 2003. Most recently, she was appointed a part time member of the Social Security Appeals Tribunal from 2010 to 2011.

    Ms Jones commenced her current position as Commissioner of Fair Work Australia in October 2011 and Head of the Fair Work Commission’s Termination of Employment Panel in March 2012.

    Appointed by that creep dreyfus as the rudd/Gillard freak show expired.

  46. OldOzzie

    The problem record immigration is supposed to solve doesn’t exist

    Population is “the everything issue”. It affects all aspects of public policy and our daily lives. It is essential to get population policy right if we are to achieve critical public policy outcomes like secure jobs, affordable housing, better planning and a sustainable environment.

    That is not to say that it is the only reform required in order to achieve these outcomes, but trying to achieve these goals while engineering record population growth is like walking up a down escalator.

    From a population of 19 million in 2000, Australia has grown to reach nearly 25 million today. That is nearly 20 years earlier than the official prediction made by the Australian Bureau of Statistics in 2000. We’ve added an extra 6 million people in quick time, or around 30 per cent. Incredibly, that’s more than the entire population of Sydney.

    Why is this extraordinary growth happening? The fundamental reason is the ramping up of Australia’s annual permanent immigration intake from the 20th century average of 70,000, to around 200,000 a year since 2000.

    Most people look horrified when they learn that federal immigration policies have us on target to reach 40 million by 2050, and 80 million by 2100.

    The fact is, in an age where Australia’s fertility rate is around two children per woman, this growth will now overwhelmingly come through immigration.

    Do you recall any political mandate for this fundamental change in public policy?

    The public is sick of politicians and elites telling them they are xenophobic, or worse, if they don’t swallow record immigration. They’re also tired of politicians and business lobbyists claiming that we need more young migrants to prevent ageing, as if migrants don’t age.

    The Productivity Commission itself debunking this claim several times. In its 2010 report, Population and Migration: Understanding the Numbers, it concluded that “realistic changes in migration levels also make little difference to the age structure of the population in the future, with any effect being temporary”.

    In any case it is highly contestable as to whether Australia’s healthy and welcome gradual ageing process does actually lower workforce participation. There is a serious flaw in the federal Treasury’s analysis. It uses the traditional definition of our ”working age” population as 15-64 to determine participation, but this definition is obsolete.

    Baby boomers are changing our economy, with workforce participation rate for men above 65 in NSW rose from about 10 per cent in the mid-1990s to above 15 per cent in 2010-11. NSW Treasury expects that figure to rise to 20 per cent by 2028. For women above 65, it has more than doubled to about 7 per cent since the mid-2000s and is forecast to be more than 12 per cent by mid-century.

    In Australia, an increasing number of people (voluntarily) work past 65, off-setting an increase in the average age and stabilising our workforce participation ratio. Record immigration is the non-solution in search of a non-existent problem.

    Polls are overwhelmingly telling us that voters reject high immigration, with a recent Essential poll showing 59 per cent agree that the level of immigration into Australia over the last 10 years has been too high. Rather than blaming migrants for our growing economic, environmental and social problems, voters are clearly blaming politicians for engineering this record growth without a mandate.

    Some common sense is required from our politicians. This issue won’t go away and they have a choice to make on how they leave Australia: Better or bigger.

  47. OneWorldGovernment

    I think ITS TIME that Australian Taxpayers finance a challenge to so called ‘public servants’ be allowed Australian taxation law deductions.

    If you are paid from ‘the common purse’ you should NOT be allowed deductions.

  48. feelthebern

    My predictions this evening for Sky.
    Credlin to fire up & throw a good amount of red meat around.
    Bolta to say some things but totally fuck up the message & make it sound like only toffs are impacted.
    Alan Jones (if he turns up) will be apoplectic.
    PM to come of the long run & slam Shorten, but as it’s a tad technical, he’ll move on quickly.

  49. feelthebern

    I wish Bill Shorten popped into the Moomba festival sans security.

  50. Andreas

    The Judge who is threatening Erikson:
    Ms Suzanne Jones

    Wife of former ACTU secretary Dave Oliver. The Labor Party is sitting in judgement of someone who confronted a Labor senator. You can tell they are just itching to jail him.

  51. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wedding crasher! Bride is arrested for DUI after crashing on the way to her own ceremony and is handcuffed in her dress

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5493431/Arizona-bride-arrested-DUI-en-route-wedding.html#ixzz59behMBHa
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Be interesting to see if the groom waited around.

  52. Rae

    Spoken like a person on a zero risk, index linked, defined benefit, tax payer funded pension.
    Ie, a tax eater.

    Whaddaya know, a new resident Tax Inspector. The other one has been quiet for a while.

    Yeah, but no. Digital Native, too young to be on a pension, every day (pretty much) is a workday, not employed in the public sector, pay lots of tax (personal income tax and tax on the SMSF).

  53. johanna

    Shelley, if you are around, what do you think of this:

    “We need to have these services put in place, we know this would have made a difference in Chloe’s case,” she said.

    “We were faced with a situation where we didn’t know what to do, didn’t know where to go, and it had escalated beyond what we could cope with as a family.”
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    The two organisations want SA’s political parties to back the plan, involving an intensive family intervention program, and a service to support children being returned to their families where appropriate.

    “It’s about listening, it’s about communication skills, it’s about supporting [parents] in a way they need to be supported, so they understand and realise it’s their behaviours causing the problem,” Ms Valentine said.

    Sounds like more of the same to me.

    Chloe Valentine’s mother was an ice user and so was her current boyfriend. Families SA adjusted their ‘care plans’ to accommodate her drug use, because Chloe’s safety was less important than keeping this non-family together. Chloe was murdered.

    Just like the Aboriginal kids, the official answer is ‘more of the same.’ The only reason it hasn’t worked is because there was not enough of it. Give us more money.

    SJW ideology at work.

  54. Myrddin Seren

    This is ostensibly the Notice given to Brittany Pettibone, denying her entry to the UK.

    It states they are chucking her boyfriend out – and by extension her – because he founded ‘Generation Identity’ ( sic ) ‘which is viewed in the UK as a right wing organization‘.

    Heaven help you members of the Australian Conservatives , or worse One Nation, who try to enter the UK.

    It is now illegal to enter the UK if you are an identifiable member of something deemed by the bureacracy as a right wing organisation.

  55. OldOzzie

    F1 LIVE OTT PLATFORM TO FEATURE 24 LIVE STREAMS – “PRETTY INSANE”

    And we in Australia will not get it, because we get to pay $39 per month for Fox Sports even if all you want is to watch F1

  56. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Most people look horrified when they learn that federal immigration policies have us on target to reach 40 million by 2050, and 80 million by 2100.

    Let’s put that into perspective, how many white people of breeding age will be around in 2050? less than 10 million out of a projected 40m. By 2100? less than 5 million out of a projected 80m.

    Genocide By Stealth ™.

    Socialism and cultural marxism is not just toxic it is a criminal enterprise that must be punished as sure as if it held a gun to the heads of white people and pulled the trigger.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    Logically the next step is to ban lump sum superannuation withdrawals.
    Can’t have the golden geese fleeing now can we?

  58. feelthebern

    This policy must really suck.
    SMH has buried it in business.

  59. feelthebern

    Yeah, but no. Digital Native, too young to be on a pension, every day (pretty much) is a workday, not employed in the public sector, pay lots of tax (personal income tax and tax on the SMSF).

    But you have been employed by the public sector at some stage.

  60. thefrollickingmole

    Wife of former ACTU secretary Dave Oliver. The Labor Party is sitting in judgement of someone who confronted a Labor senator.

    Surely thats grounds for a mistrial?

    How shameless.

  61. feelthebern

    The company in the ASX200 with the highest franking credit balance per share…..drum roll….Flightcentre.
    Skroo Turner will be wondering how to get his mitt on them there things before they become less valuable to him.

  62. thefrollickingmole

    Digital Native

    So an Aboriginal with their finger up their arse.
    Seems plausible.

    SMSF
    Self managed sock fund.
    Again fits.

  63. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2659645, posted on March 13, 2018 at 5:12 pm
    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    Logically the next step is to ban lump sum superannuation withdrawals.
    Can’t have the golden geese fleeing now can we?

    And retrospective legislation to catch the ‘greedy’ who now will act to save their investments.

  64. stackja

    John Masanauskas and Aneeka Simonis, Herald Sun
    14 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Robert Doyle was naughty.

  65. feelthebern

    And retrospective legislation to catch the ‘greedy’ who now will act to save their investments.

    Let’s not get crazy.
    Retrospective legislation isn’t going to happen.
    BUT, I do like it as a scare campaign.
    The stupid fucking Liberals should be sending out text messages the week before the election saying that Labor will tax you for your last 10 years etc etc etc & just like Mediscare, the AEC will take 3 months to say there was nothing wrong with that.

  66. testpattern

    ‘Looking forward to Marcia’s proposal’

    I’m not. Langton is not a health professional. She has been consistent in stating that the interests of children should come first, while labelling some other leaders as denialists. Sensibly, she’s waited until the stats were out and the acknowledged medical researchers had made their own comments, before committing herself to writing in the national media. This way she can present herself as knowledgable, when in fact she’s having a bob each way. It’s what many, if not most, professional media commentators do to cover up their lack of expertise.

    To her credit Langton has adopted my language, ‘don’t conflate.’ Which of course is what those with a racist agenda are doing, conflating separate issues. Sadly some activists with an an anti alcohol agenda are conflating separate issues too.

    STIs in the indigenous underage cohort are spread by promiscuity within that cohort and have risen with access to porn. The problem is difficult to quantify, research has been poor.

    ‘Numerous government inquiries and commentaries indicate that there are unacceptable levels of pornography exposure among children in some Indigenous communities .. Widespread exposure to pornography, particularly in childhood, has been linked to the overt sexualisation of children, a breakdown in sexual norms and the manifestation of problematic sexual behaviours, including sexual violence, sex between minors and promiscuity (Wild & Anderson 2007). A number of high profile court cases in recent years involved sexual offences against children linked to the use of pornography.’

    Pornography awareness: A process of engagement with Northern Territory Indigenous communities

    file:///D:/tbp034.pdf

    https://kams.org.au/training-employment/mooditj-training/

    Ask the midwife, Marcia.

  67. feelthebern

    Robert Doyle was a tax eating, booze hound.

  68. OneWorldGovernment

    ZK2A

    I’ve done Australian taxation returns for nearly 40 years for all sorts of people and businesses.

    If Keating-Hawke and Howard had reduced company tax to about 10% then there would have been no need for ‘imputation’ as such.

  69. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Whaddaya know, a new resident Tax Inspector.

    Take you and your pitiful little trolling for attention and fuck off. You are invisible in real life, people walk past you as if you didn’t exist, women have never even glanced at you. People like you are nobodies, nothings, zeroes and that is the only reason why you are here trolling, a pathetic juvenile attempt at trying to be somebody, anybody other then hollow shell that you are.

  70. Leigh Lowe

    Hey Testes… does the age of consent for pre-schoolers vary from tribe to tribe?

  71. Tel

    The stupid fucking Liberals should be sending out text messages the week before the election saying that Labor will tax you for your last 10 years etc etc etc & just like Mediscare, the AEC will take 3 months to say there was nothing wrong with that.

    Do the Hawaii trick and sent it out on the emergency channel on the morning of the election.

    Then afterwards say, “Oh so sorry.”

    Then some old guy who was going to retire anyway can make a big show of “Gosh somehow I opened the wrong email or something, me not good with computers.”

  72. feelthebern

    STIs in the indigenous underage cohort are spread by promiscuity within that cohort and have risen with access to porn. The problem is difficult to quantify, research has been poor.

    The only way to do more research is to pay adults to watch p0rn with kids.
    Sounds like an ALP plot.
    Bob Collins just got a boner from 6 feet down.

  73. testpattern

    ‘So an Aboriginal with their finger up their arse’

    1400h 13/3/18 Found spoor of runaway bigot called ‘Molesworth’. As I thought, they self identify in the company of their in-group. Following trail. Ace Datura T.Pattern Bigot Detective.

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    TREASURY
    Paul Keating backs Labor over dividend imputation credits

    The Australian
    3:02PM March 13, 2018
    Troy Bramston
    SENIOR WRITER
    Sydney
    @TroyBramston

    Paul Keating, the architect of the dividend imputation system, has backed Labor’s proposed reforms to abolish cash refunds for excess imputation credits and labelled the provision introduced during the Howard government as “unnecessary largesse”.

    Mr Keating was consulted by Labor leader Bill Shorten and Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen about the proposed reform, which he sees as a return to the system he introduced as part of a sweeping taxation reform agenda three decades ago.

    “The imputation system I introduced did not incorporate ‘cashbacks’ for those taxpayers whose average income tax rate was less than the 30 per cent corporate rate,” Mr Keating told The Australian.

    Mr Keating, who served as Treasurer (1983-91) and Prime Minister (1991-96), said the current system introduced by John Howard and Peter Costello needed reform because it saddled the country with huge imposts on the budget that are no longer affordable outside boom times.

    “This provision, introduced by the Howard government in its search for the grey vote, replete with budget surpluses a la the China boom, was simply unnecessary largesse, as was the concomitant removal of tax on large superannuation accumulations for taxpayers over 65 years of age,” Mr Keating said

    “These two policies were funded by a spike in national income — a spike which has since disappeared, but left us with these large permanent structural budget costs.”

    Labor’s policy will abolish cash refunds for excess imputation credits used by shareholders and self-funded retirees who pay little or no tax. The measure will boost the budget bottom line by almost $60 billion over the next ten years.

    “The Labor Party is dealing with these structural anomalies in the search for fiscal stabilisation, something the government is badly failing to do,” Mr Keating said.

    From the Oz. Fuck off, Keating, who cares what you think?

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2659515, posted on March 13, 2018 at 2:42 pm
    The sensible thing for the teacher to have done would be to exclude the boy on the basis of inappropriate uniform compliance.

    Exclude the boy from a whole-school photo while he was on the premises on the day in question?
    No. The teacher took a long term view of the student’s welfare. When the kid develops a brain he would regret not being part of the official record of the school and his participation.
    The teacher was more attuned to the boy’s needs than all the anti-teacher commentators.

  76. thefrollickingmole

    Sadly some activists with an an anti alcohol agenda are conflating separate issues too.

    This is the same roo balls tick that posts about how wonderful prohibition is?

    posted on September 18, 2017 at 7:02 pm. White fella buys what he likes through Dan Murphy’s and Vintage Cellars, while black fella learns the virtues of sobriety.’ err no. prohibition is for everyone. whitey brings alcohol to the Pilbara he gets prosecuted.

    FFS theres some low grade commentators on this blog.
    Low energy.
    sad.

  77. feelthebern

    The word is Paul Keating will replace Costello at the Future Fund if Tits Shorten wins the next election.
    That is, of course, post Costello’s term finishing or the ALP taking a “dividend” from the Future Fund, which would result in Costello resigning in protest.

  78. Chris

    Hey Testes… does the age of consent for pre-schoolers vary from tribe to tribe?

    How about the age at which parents intervene in their children’s substance abuse?

  79. OneWorldGovernment

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2659645, posted on March 13, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    Logically the next step is to ban lump sum superannuation withdrawals.
    Can’t have the golden geese fleeing now can we?

    I got my money out a few years ago because whether it be lieborals or labor without U they are all coming for Superannuation money.

    Except for so called ‘public servants’!

  80. Mother Lode

    feelthebern
    #2659630, posted on March 13, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    Scientists remark how evolution of animals has been an arms race between predator and prey. On the African plains herbivores learned to run to escape, developing long limbs acting as great levers. Predators got faster. Herbivores became ultrmanoeuvreable.

    I think the tax code has developed the same way. Predatory governments in a relentless pursuit, razor sharp taxes bared, of the cash bearing prey. The prey relying on speed and agility. Each time the predator adapts the prey innovates.

    Time for the prey to become predators, I think.

  81. testpattern

    ‘does the age of consent for pre-schoolers’

    It’s Lowe than a Leigh’s belly! Do you know the age of consent yet? Better find out before you jump on your next flight to Bangkok or you could end up in custody at the airport.

  82. Mother Lode

    which is viewed in the UK as a right wing organization

    They are similarly apprehensive (and inclined to apprehend) people from Left Wing organisations, I suppose?

  83. feelthebern

    Zero coverage – that I have seen today – unions get all their excess franking credits refunded where the wokka’s & nanna doesn’t.
    STUPID.
    FUCKING.
    LIBERALS.

    If they can not exploit this, there is something wrong with it.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I got my money out a few years ago because whether it be lieborals or labor without U they are all coming for Superannuation money.

    That unworthy motive did cause me to withdraw all my money as soon as I could, indeed.

  85. feelthebern

    Janine Perrett just said it doesn’t impact people in industry super funds.
    WHAT.
    A.
    FUCKING.
    IDIOT.

  86. feelthebern

    The tax rate in an industry super is 15% in the accumulation phase.
    Last time I looked.
    Could someone please tell Perrett.

  87. OneWorldGovernment

    feelthebern
    #2659670, posted on March 13, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    The word is Paul Keating will replace Costello at the Future Fund if Tits Shorten wins the next election.
    That is, of course, post Costello’s term finishing or the ALP taking a “dividend” from the Future Fund, which would result in Costello resigning in protest.

    Costello is an out and out xunt.

    He oversold the “Future Fund” as something it is not.

    Have you checked their reports.

    What a ‘rort’ and what difference at this point would it make if Keating was there or Costello?

  88. Leigh Lowe

    How about the age at which parents intervene in their children’s substance abuse?

    At the funeral.
    Then they head back to the humpy and hop into a goon bag and wait for the little-uns to get home from school so the party can really get started.
    No wait …they are all truants so they can get stuck in straight away.

  89. feelthebern

    Janine Perrett just said that SMSF establishment growth was out of control.
    APRA reported SMSF growth last year was down on the previous 3 years.

  90. H B Bear

    Robert Doyle was a tax eating, booze hound.

    Yep would like to see this impotent Victoriastani Lieboral dragged backwards through the blackberry bush.

  91. feelthebern

    What a ‘rort’ and what difference at this point would it make if Keating was there or Costello?

    Agree.

  92. testpattern

    ‘Sadly some activists with an an anti alcohol agenda are conflating separate issues too.’

    Wrong again Molesworth. I’m anti alcohol, always have been, and I advocate for prohibition in the NW and NT. It’s the only issue that would take be back into politics. I don’t conflate problems caused/exacerbated by alcohol with others. Some activists are doing this at the moment, using contemporary cases as a political football, a mirror image of racists like you.

  93. Tel

    Janine Perrett just said it doesn’t impact people in industry super funds.

    I’ve struggled through the occasional PM Live and my impression is that she just makes stuff up as she goes. I found it infuriating, which possibly is intentional, but I don’t battle through as many episodes as I used to. PM keeps calling himself “libertarian”, seemingly because he smokes cigars, but I must admit he doesn’t seem quite what I think of as a “libertarian” but that’s how it is with these political brands, they get kidnapped.

  94. Mother Lode

    Can’t have the golden geese fleeing now can we?

    I misread that as Golden Fleecing.

    Shorten and the Stop-at-naughts.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2659682, posted on March 13, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    Janine Perrett just said that SMSF establishment growth was out of control.

    What the fuck does “out of control” mean?
    Why should there be any control on numbers of funds.
    Stupid fucking slag has bought into the lefty talking points that all SMSFs are dodgy … they must be … it’s what wealthy people do.
    Truth is, it is as highly regulated as any part of the financial sector.

  96. OneWorldGovernment

    Hey “Billy Bob” Shorten

    How about wiping out the whole Australian Taxation class of ‘Not for Profit’?

    What a despicable corrupt racket that is you crap head.

  97. Tel

    I’m betting good money an incoming Shorten Government will reintroduce death duties…all in the name of equality…and fairness..

    Who cares if he will or he won’t?

    Just stick it into an SMS and go nuts.

  98. Mother Lode

    SMH has buried it in business.

    I suspect they love it, they just don’t have any reason other than the ALP assures them it will soak da rich.

    But after the horrid brutish treatment meted out to Alberscreechy after her excursion into matters of economics they are a little keyboard-shy.

    They know that Alberscreechy was right – it is just no one knows how. But they are certain other people don’t pay enough tax.

  99. thefrollickingmole

    Lets quote the “blacker the berry” mans own words.

    To her credit Langton has adopted my language, ‘don’t conflate.’ Which of course is what those with a racist agenda are doing, conflating separate issues. Sadly some activists with an an anti alcohol agenda are conflating separate issues too.

    The fetishist seems to believe Alcohol has no bearing on child sex abuse/health issues etc.
    While at the same time calling for prohibition on alcohol because it will solve the problems of child sex abuse/health issues etc.

    DTs have kicked in early today it seems.

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    SOUTH AUSTRALIA ELECTION
    Nick Xenophon in danger of failing to win Hartley for SA Best

    The Australian
    12:16PM March 13, 2018
    Save
    Luke Griffiths
    Journalist
    Adelaide

    Nick Xenophon’s bid to return to state politics is in danger of failing, with a new opinion poll showing the former senator suffering a five-point slump in primary support in the seat of Hartley, which he is trying to wrest from sitting Liberal MP Vincent Tarzia.

    A Galaxy poll, conducted for Adelaide daily newspaper The Advertiser, has today revealed Mr Xenophon’s primary vote is 30 per cent, eight points behind Mr Tarzia. Labor’s candidate, former Hartley MP and one-time minister Grace Portolesi, is on 22 per cent.

    Galaxy’s projected two-party preferred vote has Mr Tarzia ahead 51 to 49 per cent, a stunning turnaround from a Galaxy poll in mid-January which had the SA-Best 14 points ahead on 57 to 43 per cent.

    Liberal Opposition Leader Steven Marshall is now clearly preferred as premier by voters in Hartley, in Adelaide inner northeastern suburbs, 34 per cent to Mr Xenophon’s 22 per cent.

    From the Oz. “Good riddance” are words that spring to mind.

  101. Tel

    What the fuck does “out of control” mean?

    It means the “Progressive” narrative is to destroy every SMSF to avoid the problem that the index following industry funds will look stupid next big market upset.

    I’ve had a number of attempts to explain to people that being an index follower works well in a generally rising market, but the index has the luxury of adjusting itself to kick out poor-performers after nasty negative events, while if you actually own those stocks you always end up behind the crowd as you attempt to be the last numptie to offload. You end up with your own index beating you as you follow it. Anyway, seems obvious to me what the risks are but I have a terrible feeling a lot of people will be surprised by this.

  102. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Janine Perrett just said that SMSF establishment growth was out of control.

    Janine is too stupid to start an SMSF for herself, but if she is referring to the amount of SMSFs that have been created to invest in the ponzi apartment market then she may have a point. That is a house of cards that is going to burn tens of thousands of idiots – good!

  103. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    PM keeps calling himself “libertarian”,

    He must be one of those libertarians that wants to ban and regulate everything.

    He’s an oaf.

  104. testpattern

    ‘While at the same time calling for prohibition on alcohol because it will solve the problems of child sex abuse’

    Wrong again Molesworth, more lies. I have never done this. Sadly it’s what some activists are doing, just as racists like you are using the issue as a political football. I support prohibition because every born Territorian has family and friends who have/had alcohol problems.

  105. Chris

    Then they head back to the humpy and hop into a goon bag

    Where I come from, the humpies disappeared about 1967, when three new houses were built for them, an easy walk to the school and shops.

  106. Nick

    Exclude the boy from a whole-school photo while he was on the premises on the day in question?
    No. The teacher took a long term view of the student’s welfare. When the kid develops a brain he would regret not being part of the official record of the school and his participation.
    The teacher was more attuned to the boy’s needs than all the anti-teacher commentators.

    It’s true. Excluding him from the photo would have been crueller.

  107. OneWorldGovernment

    Can a ‘fair dinkum’ proper Australian Government stop coal fired electricity from being pumped into Watermelon Green Electorates?

    I think it unfair that people that want to use unicorn farts should be able to tap into real power generation.

  108. Delta A

    Nick Xenophon in danger of failing to win Hartley for SA Best

    And my friend, Liberal newcomer Andy Gilfillan, looks set to take the Mawson seat from Labor.

  109. Chris

    racists like you

    Detesticle, so kind of you to notice we are not tourists.
    Thats because we live here.

    Whats the difference between a tourist and a racist? About two weeks.

  110. Delta A

    Liberal newcomer Andy Gilfillan

    This is a dilemma for me. I, with many others, encouraged Andy from the start. But now, with the Liberals proving to be so appalling – and having met and argued with the loathsome Steven Marshall – I am reluctant to give the party my vote.

    AC is running a candidate, but I’m also reluctant to split the conservative vote.

    Constructive suggestions welcome.

  111. feelthebern

    Credlin really sucked with her opener.

  112. testpattern

    But thanks for reminding me of that excellent arcticle which I can now proudly repost –

    A voice from 1897 compares the Turkish genocide of Armenians with –

    AUSTRALIAN ATROCITIES

    Cruelties of Civilisation. Why Use Turkish Atrocities? Try Our Own Make!

    ‘..two men followed several absconding indentured natives, flogging them severely, and causing them to travel 24 miles without water. After arrival at a station three of the natives died. The details of the coroners inquest have now been received. It appears that three survivors of the band are a male and two females, one of the latter being 12 and the other 8 years of age. The children had been horribly beaten. the back of the youngest bore large festering wounds. The evidence of the natives was conflicting. One named Kandy states that his hands were tied behind his back. He said that one man took a rope and knotted it and beat him till tired, when the other continued. both also thrashed Spider, who died tied to a post. The woman was then beaten , and one of the natives, when released drank a billycan of water. three of the blacks died three hours after being flogged. According to the evidence taken at the coroner’s inquiry, one man stated that he tied Biddy, one of the deceased, up and beat her, though she was ill, for about two minutes. He then took Louie, 12 years of age, and beat her with the same rope, and afterwards treated Minnie, a little girl in like manner.’ [note: the Anderson murders, Pilbara]

    ‘The age is dull and mean. Men [like Moleworth] creep,
    Not Walk, with blood too pale and tame,
    To pay the debt they owe to shame.’

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/169752354

  113. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Credlin really sucked with her opener.

    She destroyed Abbott’s PMship. A lightweight harridan.

  114. Mother Lode

    Hey Testes… does the age of consent for pre-schoolers vary from tribe to tribe?

    I suspect the answer involves spoor.

    It seems to be overtaking his brain.

  115. Confused Old Misfit

    Delta,
    Anybody but Bignell! I’m in Finniss.
    I have the same problem with Marshall & the Libs as you do.
    I guess its AC 1 Libs 2

  116. Gab

    We know some atrocities were committed against a few Abos over 100 years ago. Not sure why testes has to keep repeating it when it does nothing to chnage history.

    In the meantime, Abo men are sexually abusing 2 year old Abo children today.

    Notice how testes never mentions that.

  117. thefrollickingmole

    Such low, low energy trolls.
    dopey
    lying
    Not good
    Sad.

    I have never done this
    testpattern. #2648884, posted on February 28, 2018 at 9:31 pm. Foetal alcohol spectrum disorder. Prohibition is the best option.

    testpattern. #2653834, posted on March 6, 2018 at 6:56 pm. Prohibition is the only solution to Australia’s alcohol problems. Stand fast for prohibition ye patriots of the land, All ye who love ……

    Lying liars should be banned, especially brazen stupid low quality ones.

  118. egg_

    She destroyed Abbott’s PMship.

    +1

    Dunno why he didn’t consult more widely/trust his own judgement – she may have helped him to be a small target whilst in Opposition, but Govt is a different case and calls for leadership.

  119. OneWorldGovernment

    Can anyone tell me why ‘kava‘ is banned in the Northern Australian Communities?

    Or in any Australian Aboriginal Community?

  120. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We know some atrocities were committed against a few Abos over 100 years ago. Not sure why testes has to keep repeating it when it does nothing to chnage history.

    In the meantime, Abo men are sexually abusing 2 year old Abo children today.

    Notice how testes never mentions that.

    Perhaps, in what passes for Pestis brain, atrocities committed a hundred years ago, justifies the abuse of toddlers today? It’s all evil debbil debbil whitefella’s fault!

  121. Chris

    At Urupuga, (cattle station near Roper Bar where Crocodile Dundee would look very ordinary) in 1981 I was told how one of the local aboriginals ran mad and cut his own throat, though failing to complete the act to death. The station people and hsi neighbours caught him and prevented him harming himself worse and called the flying doctor. They chained him to tree at the airstrip so he wouldn’t go bush and die instead of being taken to hospital, to wait for the Flying Docs.
    Up pulled a tourist bus, and everyone saw an aboriginal man with his throat cut, chained to a tree.

    Context is everything.

    For instance, if post is headed ‘testpattern’, you know it is malicious bullshit from the context.

  122. testpattern

    ‘Foetal alcohol spectrum disorder. Prohibition is the best option.’

    Correct. FASD is caused by alcohol not beetroot juice.

    You unfathomable idiot Moleworth.

  123. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    But thanks for reminding me of that excellent arcticle which I can now proudly repost –

    If you loath whites so much why don’t you go self-immolate in protest, more effective than your soporific retro journalism. But then you are probably yet another nothing and a nobody trying to be noticed.

    I suppose being ridiculed is a step above being invisible.

    Socialism real seems to appeal the the weak of mind.

  124. Marcus

    Janine Perrett just said it doesn’t impact people in industry super funds.
    WHAT.
    A.
    FUCKING.
    IDIOT.

    Well, she has a point in as much as most people in industry super funds will just keep paying the commissions, letting the financial planners deal with everything and never even notice that they’re being stiffed.

  125. OneWorldGovernment

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2659717, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    Testes compares that with this?

    Very soon whatever remains of The West will have to go in and wipe the so called turks out again.

    Not forgetting The Battle of Broken Hill

  126. thefrollickingmole

    Splatter is reduced to posting old issued of the “Truth” newspaper.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_(Sydney_newspaper)

  127. Chris

    In the meantime, Abo men are sexually abusing 2 year old Abo children today.

    Notice how testes never mentions that.

    Nor that Aboriginal people are around 30 times as likely to die of murder, if they are women, than white Australians.

  128. testpattern

    ‘At Urupuga, (cattle station near Roper Bar where Crocodile Dundee would look very ordinary)’

    Urapanga you moron. Tell us about Roper Bar. I know it well. Who built the new wharf there [1981] and why?

  129. John Constantine

    Index funds guarantee market performance, unless they exclude sin stocks.

    Sins like booze, smokes, pokies, girls and coal shouldn’t under perform dog box gulag apartments next downturn.

  130. Mother Lode

    Notice how testes never mentions that.

    I suspect he thinks that if he admitted to there being any problem then he would lose his moral high ground, which is already imperiled by his unremitting distortions of history.

    A person confident of their case would feel certain that in the long run they will be vindicated.

    Hey, I am a white guy, and I don’t shy away from admitting that ex-President Carter is a white guy – and he is histories greatest monster!

  131. Mother Lode

    err…history’s

  132. OldOzzie

    EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING HILLARY CLINTON HAS BLAMED FOR LOSING THE ELECTION – 42 AND COUNTING

    JAMES COMEY

    Clinton is furious that Comey, then the FBI director, publicly revealed the re-opening of the secret email server investigation just before election day – and has said so time after time after time.

    THE FBI

    Comey’s entire organization does not escape her wrath.

    ‘The FBI wasn’t the Federal Bureau of Ifs or Innuendoes. Its job was to find out the facts,’ she writes in What Happened.

    VLADIMIR PUTIN

    ‘There’s no doubt in my mind that Putin wanted me to lose and wanted Trump to win,’ she told USA Today in September last year while promoting What Happened.

    It was hardly a new theme. As early as December the New York Times obtained audio in which she told her donors: ‘Putin publicly blamed me for the outpouring of outrage by his own people, and that is the direct line between what he said back then and what he did in this election.’

    THE RUSSIANS

    Putin’s entire apparatus gets a name-check. In May she told the Codecon convention how ‘1,000 Russian agents’ had filled Facebook with ‘fake news’.

    She told NPR ‘my path toward November was being disrupted with Russians’.

    WIKILEAKS

    The ‘transparency website’ is consistently ranked along with Comey by Clinton at the top of her blame list.

    She told NPR : ‘Unfortunately the Comey letter, aided to great measure by the Russian WikiLeaks, raised all those doubts again.’

    And she writes of its founder Julian Assange in What Happened: ‘In my view, Assange is a hypocrite who deserves to be held accountable for his actions.’

    LOW INFORMATION VOTERS

    ‘You put yourself in the position of a low information voter, and all of a sudden your Facebook feed, your Twitter account is saying, “Oh my gosh, Hillary Clinton is running a child trafficking operation in Washington with John Podesta.”,’ she told the Codecon convention in May.

    ‘Well you don’t believe it but this has been such an unbelievable election, you kind of go, ‘Oh maybe I better look into that.”

    THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

    ‘We have an electoral college problem. It’s an anachronism,’ she told Vox.

    ANTI-AMERICAN FORCES

    ‘I think it’s important that we learn the real lessons from this last campaign because the forces that we are up against are not just interested in influencing our elections and our politics, they’re going after our economy and they’re going after our unity as a nation,’ she told Codecon in May.

    ‘What is hard for people to really accept – although now after the election there’s greater understanding – is that there are forces in our country – put the Russians to one side – who have been fighting rear guard actions for as long as I’ve been alive because my life coincided with the Civil Rights movement, with the women’s rights movement, with anti-war protesting, with the impeachment.

    EVERYONE WHO ASSUMED SHE WOULD WIN

    ‘I was the victim of a very broad assumption that I was going to win,’ she told the Codecon convention.

    BAD POLLING NUMBERS

    Clinton says polls in key states did not serve her.

    ‘I think polling is going to have to undergo some revisions in how they actually measure people,’ she told the Codecon convention.

    ‘How they reach people. The best assessments as of right now are that the polling was not that inaccurate, but it was predominantly national polling and I won nationally.’

    BARACK OBAMA

    Clinton has two beefs with Obama: one of them being that he won two terms. Clinton says that succeeding an incumbent is almost impossible for a Democrat.

    ‘No non-incumbent Democrat had run successfully to succeed another two-termer since Vice President Martin Van Buren won in 1836,’ she writes in What Happened.

    But she also says his response to the Russian campaign of interference wasn’t enough.

    ‘I do wonder sometimes about what would have happened if President Obama had made a televised address to the nation in the fall of 2016 warning that our democracy was under attack,’ she writes in What Happened.

    WHITE WOMEN

    ‘I believe absent Comey, I might’ve picked up 1 or 2 points among white women,’ she told Vox in September.

    ‘White woman… are really quite politically dependent on their view of their own security and their own position in society what works and doesn’t work for them.’

    ‘What happened in my election is I was on the way to winning white women until former director of the FBI Jim Comey dropped that very ill-advised letter on Oct. the 28th and my numbers just went down,’ she said in a March 2018 speech in India.

    ‘All of a sudden white women who were going to vote for me, and frankly standing up to the men in their lives and the men in their work places were being told, “She’s going to jail, you don’t want to vote for her. It’s going to be terrible you can’t vote for that.” It stopped my momentum and it decreased my vote enough. Because I was ahead and I was winning and I thought I had fought my way back. ‘

    THE NEW YORK TIMES

    The newspaper was blamed as early as May at the Codecon conference in Rancho Palos Verde, California.

    She singled out its managing editor Dean Baquet – the paper’s most senior editor – and said of coverage of her email issue under his direction: ‘They covered it like it was Pearl Harbor.’

    JOE BIDEN

    Biden could have run against her and didn’t. But Clinton writes: ‘Joe Biden said the Democratic Party in 2016 ‘did not talk about what it always stood for—and that was how to maintain a burgeoning middle class.’

    ‘I find this fairly remarkable, considering that Joe himself campaigned for me all over the Midwest and talked plenty about the middle class.’

    BERNIE SANDERS

    ‘His attacks caused lasting damage, making it harder to unify progressives in the general election and paving the way for Trump’s ‘Crooked Hillary’ campaign,’ she writes in What Happened.

    ‘I don’t know if that bothered Bernie or not.’

    BERNIE BROS

    ‘Some of his supporters, the so-called Bernie Bros, took to harassing my supporters online. It got ugly and more than a little sexist,’ she writes in What Happened.

    PEOPLE WANTING CHANGE

    ‘I thought, at end of day, people would say, look, we do want change, and we want the right kind of change, and we want change that is realistic and is going to make difference in my life and my family’s life and my paycheck,’ she told Vox.

    ‘That’s what I was offering. And I didn’t in any way want to feed into this, not just radical political argument that was being made on other side, but very negative cultural argument about who we are as Americans.’

    MISOGYNISTS

    Asked by CNN’s Christine Amanpour at the Women for Women International event in new York in May if misogyny was to blame she said: ‘Yes, I do think it played a role.’

    TELEVISION EXECUTIVES

    ‘When you have a presidential campaign and the total number of minutes on TV news, which is still how most people get their information, covering all of our policies, climate change, anything else was 32 minutes, I don’t blame voters,’ she told The View.

    ‘They don’t get a broad base of information to make decision on. The more outrageous you are, the more inflammatory you are, the higher the ratings are.’

    NETFLIX

    Hillary does not do Netflix and chill – or if she does, she doesn’t find it very relaxing.

    ‘Eight of the top 10 political documentaries on Netflix were screeds against President Obama and me,’ she claimed at the Codecon convention.

    FACEBOOK

    ‘If you look at Facebook the vast majority of the news items posted were fake. They were connected to as we now know the 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages,’ she told Codecon.

    TWITTER

    Usually mentioned in the same breath as Facebook, the micro-blogging site is seen by Clinton as one of the reasons for her loss.

    She told the Codecon convention in may that Trump had a method in his tweets.

    ‘They want to influence your reality. That to me is what we’re up against, and we can’t let that go unanswered,’ she said.

    CONTENT FARMS IN MACEDONIA

    ‘Through content farms, through an enormous investment in falsehoods, fake news, call it what you will – lies, that’s a good word too – the other side was using content that was flat out false,’ she told the Codecon convention in May.

    ‘They were conveying this weaponized information and the content of it, and they were running, y’know there’s all these stories, about y’know, and you know I’ve seen them now, and you sit there and it looks like you know sort of low level CNN operation, or a fake newspaper.’

    CAMPAIGN FINANCE

    ‘You had Citizens United come to its full fruition.’ she told Codecon in May.

    ‘So unaccountable money flowing in against me, against other Democrats, in a way that we hadn’t seen and then attached to this weaponized information war.

    THE MEDIA

    ‘American journalists who eagerly and uncritically repeated whatever WikiLeaks dished out during the campaign could learn from the responsible way the French press handled the hack of Macron,’ she writes in What Happened.

    Now-president Macron had a massive tranche of his emails hacked and released shortly before the French voted. Many outlets did not report on their contents.

    STEVE BANNON AND BREITBART

    ‘Provided the untrue stories,’ she told the Codecon convention in May.

    THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

    ‘I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee of the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party,’ Clinton said told the Codecon convention in May.

    ‘I mean, it was bankrupt. It was on the verge of insolvency. Its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it.’

    THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

    The Republicans were far better prepared for a campaign than the Democrats she claimed, when it came to money and data, telling the Codecon convention: ‘So Trump becomes the nominee and he is basically handed this tried and true, effective foundation.’

    CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA

    The data-targeting firm ultimately owned by Robert Mercer, the billionaire Breitbart backer, and his family, is said to have targeted voters to drive them away from Clinton.

    ‘They ultimately added something and I think again we’d better understand that. The Mercers did not invest all that money for their own amusement,’ she told the Codecon convention.

    WOMEN PROTESTERS

    The massive demonstrations in Washington and other cities in the wake of the election were organized as an immediate response to Clinton’s shock defeat.

    But that did not stop Clinton from writing in What Happened: ‘I couldn’t help but ask where those feelings of solidarity, outrage and passion had been during the election.’

    MATT LAUER

    The NBC Today show anchor quizzed both candidates at a ‘commander-in-chief forum’ on board Intrepid in New York.

    But Clinton – who went first in the back-to-back interviews, complained about Lauer focusing on her secret server and whether it raised questions over her trustworthiness.

    ‘Lauer had turned what should have been a serious discussion into a pointless ambush. What a waste of time,’ she writes in What Happened. She later delighted in his firing for sexual misconduct, saying in December: ‘Every day I believe more in karma.’

    WHITE VOTERS

    ‘White voters have been fleeing the Democratic party ever since Lyndon Johnson predicted they would,’ she told Vox.

    DEMOCRATIC DOCUMENTARY MAKERS

    ‘We’re not making the documentaries that we’re going to get onto Netflix,’ she told Codecon.

    She was asked by the interviewer: ‘This is because Hollywood isn’t liberal enough?’

    ‘No, it’s because Democrats aren’t putting their money there,’ she replied.

    BENGHAZI INVESTIGATORS

    The attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound in the Libyan city of Benghazi on September 11, 2012, happened when Clinton was Secretary of State. It claimed four American lives, and was the focus of intense investigation by Congress.

    Clinton told the Today show: ‘Take the Benghazi tragedy – you know, I have one of the top Republicans, Kevin McCarthy, admitting we’re going to take that tragedy – because, you know, we’ve lost people, unfortunately, going back to the Reagan administration, if you talk about recent times, in diplomatic attacks.

    ‘But boy, it was turned into a political football. And it was aimed at undermining my credibility, my record, my accomplishments.’

    VOTER SUPPRESSION

    Suppressing her voters was named by Clinton as one of the major factors in her defeat in her interview on the Today show when she rattled off her laundry list. ‘What was at work here?’ she said.

    ‘In addition to the mistakes that I made, which I recount in the book, what about endemic sexism and misogyny, not just in politics but in our society, what about the unprecedented action of the FBI director, what about the interference of an adversary nation, what about voter suppression?’

    It was a return to a theme – she suggested it was a problem in Wisconsin in an interview in May with New York magazine.

    ‘I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin,’ she said.

    ‘Republicans learned that if you suppress votes you win.’

    MITCH McCONNELL

    The Senate majority leader is accused of stopping the Obama administration from revealing what Clinton says the Russians were up to, helping tip the balance against her because he did not want a third successive Democratic term in the White House.

    ‘Mitch McConnell, in what I think of as a not only unpatriotic but despicable act of partisan politics, made it clear that if the Obama Administration spoke publicly about what they knew [on Russia], he would accuse them of partisan politics, of trying to tip the balance toward me,’ she told the New Yorker.

    THE SUPREME COURT

    Clinton claims the Supreme Court watered down the Voting Rights Act at the Codecon convention.

    ‘You had effective suppression of votes,’ she said.

    ‘I was in the senate when we voted 98-0 under a Republican president, George W Bush, to extend the Voting Rights Act and the Supreme Court says ‘oh we don’t need it any more’ , throws it out, and Republican governors and legislatures began doing everything they could to suppress the votes.’

    Clinton appears to be referring to Second 4(b) of the Act being ruled unconstitutional by the court in 2013, because it relied on out of date data which meant it was not in line with the 15th Amendment.

    FATHERS, HUSBANDS, BOYFRIENDS, AND MALE BOSSES

    Clinton says that James Comey’s actions in re-opening the FBI investigation allowed men to influence their wives or girlfriends.

    ‘Women will have no empathy for you because they will be under tremendous pressure – and I’m talking principally about white women – they will be under tremendous pressure from fathers, and husbands, and boyfriends and male employers, not to vote for ‘the girl’,’ she told NPR.

    THE INVISIBLE STATE

    The newest addition to the list: named by her confidante Lanny Davis as the reason she lost at a reading of his book while Hillary nodded along in approval.

  133. thefrollickingmole

    Prohibition is the only solution to Australia’s alcohol problems.

    Gee seems sort of non specific little fetish man.
    FASD, you mean Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder is caused by alcohol? Has someone told the press?
    https://alcoholpregnancy.telethonkids.org.au/our-research/research-projects/hedland-fasd-project/

    I cant be arsed posting any of the other 500 versions of the same crap youve dribbled here, perhaps someone with a higher tolerance for alcohol fumes could look.

    You are a self described “blacker the berry” fetishist who bludges off Aboriginal people while pretending to champion the most dysfunctional 10% as “genuine”.
    A pervert of misery who wishes only the worst for Aboriginal people as it will allow him to feel morally superior instead of look at the howling vacuum of his own inadequacies.

    You are fucked in the head.

  134. testpattern

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_(Sydney_newspaper)

    And Brisbane.

    This fiend incarnate is known to go N….. SHOOTING FOR SPORT, and during the past few years has
    slain many blackfellows. It is also reported by the blacks that he takes the lubras and, after ravishing
    them, shoots them. It is also, well known that he has killed children by hitting their heads against a tree. I asked many Blacks about this man, and they all told me the same tale, “Him shoot plenty blackfellow all same kangaroo,” they said. The police round the district are aware of the brutality of THIS HUMAN MONSTER.’

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206484085?

  135. egg_

    Ask the midwife, Marcia.

    Isn’t Marcia… Marcia… Marcia… a coconut, married to whitey?

  136. John Constantine

    Once big Australia hits a population level where a minority of racists have the privilege of inheriting legacy assets, and the imported majority do well from government services, death duties will be voted in.

    Big Australia welfare services State can only be funded by the economic genocide of old racist Australia.

    NDIS means all your super belong us.

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    A voice from 1897 compares the Turkish genocide of Armenians

    Today:

    Expert: Erdogan Regime Considers Christians, Jews ‘Enemies of the State’

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s authoritarian government has deemed members of religious minorities, such as Christians and J_ws, “enemies of the state,” an analyst tells Breitbart News, echoing the U.S. State Department.

    “The religious minorities in Turkey, like the Christians, J_ws, and a few others, suffer from unequal treatment. … The religious minorities are believed to be enemies of the state,” Dr. Y. Alp Aslandogan, the executive director of the Alliance for Shared Values, a non-profit group that promotes bringing people from different backgrounds together, told Breitbart News. “So the association with them becomes a crime. So those religious minorities, those citizens themselves, are pushed into enemy status.”

    “That’s what all religious minorities suffer from — the Armenians, the Christian Orthodox, and the J_ws, among others — they suffer from this kind of stigma,” he added.

    After causing the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians around 1915 and who knows how many Christians and J_ws in nearly 1,400 years the Turks are back to persecuting us all again.

    Meanwhile Aboriginal people get free room, board and folding money from the Australian government no questions asked.

    I do think that means your hyperbole, TP, is a little over the top.

  138. Bruce of Newcastle

    A voice from 1897 compares the Turkish genocide of Armenians

    Today:

    Expert: Erdogan Regime Considers Christians, J_ws ‘Enemies of the State’

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s authoritarian government has deemed members of religious minorities, such as Christians and J_ws, “enemies of the state,” an analyst tells Breitbart News, echoing the U.S. State Department.

    “The religious minorities in Turkey, like the Christians, J_ws, and a few others, suffer from unequal treatment. … The religious minorities are believed to be enemies of the state,” Dr. Y. Alp Aslandogan, the executive director of the Alliance for Shared Values, a non-profit group that promotes bringing people from different backgrounds together, told Breitbart News. “So the association with them becomes a crime. So those religious minorities, those citizens themselves, are pushed into enemy status.”

    “That’s what all religious minorities suffer from — the Armenians, the Christian Orthodox, and the J_ws, among others — they suffer from this kind of stigma,” he added.

    After causing the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians around 1915 and who knows how many Christians and J_ws in nearly 1,400 years the Turks are back to persecuting us all again.

    Meanwhile Aboriginal people get free room, board and folding money from the Australian government no questions asked.

    I do think that means your hyperbole, TP, is a little over the top.

  139. OneWorldGovernment

    OldOzzie
    #2659732, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING HILLARY CLINTON HAS BLAMED FOR LOSING THE ELECTION – 42 AND COUNTING

    What about “Billy Bob” Shortens Australian labor without U operatives that helped commo Sanders?

  140. Chris

    Urapanga you moron.

    Oh, sorry I mistyped and left out the n. But by his own standards looks like detesticle just called himself a moron.

    The Urapunga frog [sound recording] / Ted Egan. – Version details …
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/version/22608985
    The Urapunga frog /​ Ted Egan. Creator. Egan, Ted, 1932-. Published. [Sydney] : RCA Australia, 1978. Medium. [sound recording]. Content Types. performed music. Carrier Types. audio disc. Physical Description. 1 sound disc : 33 1/​3 rpm. ; 12 in. Subjects. Children’s songs. Australia, Central — Songs and music.

  141. EvilElvis

    FMD.

    Stick to the imbecile, Janine Perret you lot. Don’t wade into the absolute fucking sewer that is facebook for any commentary on tits shortens latest and greatest. No wonder the countries fucked.

    I firmly believe now that as in wartime all communications should be targeted going forward, goodbye internet trash, goodbye ABC. They’ve already done a number on electricity. The age of information is a sham.

  142. OneWorldGovernment

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2659739, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    A voice from 1897 compares the Turkish genocide of Armenians

    Today:

    Expert: Erdogan Regime Considers Christians, J_ws ‘Enemies of the State’

    x1400

  143. Tel

    After causing the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians around 1915 and who knows how many Christians and J_ws in nearly 1,400 years the Turks are back to persecuting us all again.

    After a very brief window when Ataturk installed modernity and a kind of multiculturalism, they decided better to revert back to the old ways of persecution. Ataturk’s legacy is almost gone now, lasted a bit less than 100 years. Strangely enough they still expected to be treated as if they are modern people.

  144. OldOzzie

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2659740, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:35 pm
    OldOzzie
    #2659732, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING HILLARY CLINTON HAS BLAMED FOR LOSING THE ELECTION – 42 AND COUNTING

    What about “Billy Bob” Shortens Australian labor without U operatives that helped commo Sanders?

    Definitely – you should contact the Daily Mail and get them to update their List

  145. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2659656, posted on March 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    And retrospective legislation to catch the ‘greedy’ who now will act to save their investments.

    Let’s not get crazy.

    Trusting ALP?

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Correct. FASD is caused by alcohol not beetroot juice.

    What is FASD?
    A for Aboriginal?
    S for Sexual?
    D for Deviance?
    Can’t for the life of me get F though.

  147. testpattern

    Of course, fiends incarnate were not confined to NT. Just over the border the Duracks had form abusing kids. They took a 13 y.o white kid from Qld with them to the Ord, even gave him a false name to deceive police. When he could no longer stand the abuse he ran away. He started his own station, led police on a massacre, had an indigenous wife and is acknowledged as an ancestor by one of the largest Kimberley indigenous families, though not with any pride.

    The Duracks black kids were some of the first stolen generation. Taken from the mothers by police and sent down south because they were embarrassing to the Duracks. Terrible people.

  148. OldOzzie

    testpattern – a solution for you specifically, from the 1950s:-

    “Stressful Day? What you need is a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down”

  149. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING HILLARY CLINTON HAS BLAMED FOR LOSING THE ELECTION – 42 AND COUNTING

    The very broad glass ceiling says:

  150. testpattern

    ‘cattle station near Roper Bar where Crocodile Dundee’

    If you were there, tell us about Roper Bar, 1981. Who built the new wharf and why?

  151. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Duracks black kids were some of the first stolen generation. Taken from the mothers by police and sent down south because they were embarrassing to the Duracks. Terrible people.

    The only way to integrate the abos into the modern world is what we did to the neanderthals: breed them out of existence. SO get cracking testes, I hear a very large black woman calling your name

  152. thefrollickingmole

    Little blackberry man still projecting?

  153. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2659752, posted on March 13, 2018 at 6:43 pm

    Of course, fiends incarnate were not confined to NT. Just over the border the Duracks had form abusing kids. They took a 13 y.o white kid from Qld with them to the Ord, even gave him a false name to deceive police. When he could no longer stand the abuse he ran away. He started his own station, led police on a massacre, had an indigenous wife and is acknowledged as an ancestor by one of the largest Kimberley indigenous families, though not with any pride.

    The Duracks black kids were some of the first stolen generation. Taken from the mothers by police and sent down south because they were embarrassing to the Duracks. Terrible people.

    I presume I can get your real address from Sinclair so I can sue you?

  154. testpattern

    ‘It’s hard to believe Australia is still able to plumb new depths when it comes to absolutely cooked, racist policies, but I guess when you combine the geniuses at the Liberal party with Sunrise what else can you expect?’ [and the nulliuses at catallaxy]

    http://junkee.com/sunrise-stolen-generations/150423

  155. feelthebern

    Bolta starts on Trump.
    Not Shorten & super.
    Sad.

  156. feelthebern

    Bolta crapping on about China.
    Fark.

  157. testpattern

    ‘And Bropho had shown callous disregard for the child’s welfare’

    Just as the Duracks had shown callous disregard for Bropho’s father and aunty, and the mothers who had the Durack kids. Toby and Jessie were two of the first generation of stolen kids. MP Durack himself, the pig.

  158. OldOzzie

    Talking about aging porn stars

    While Trump moves forward with his pledge of making America great again reality and not just letters on a red hat, all the leftist media want to talk about is some aging porn star trying to revive her stripper career, some sort of tax apocalypse due to Trump’s tax plan, the sinking of the global economy due to Trump’s tariffs, and North Korea’s leader embarrassing Trump at a game of denuclearization whack-a-mole.

    Democrats and their compliant and complicit media may have their version of the facts, but reality has its own checks and balances.

  159. Nick

    Give him a few min Bern.

  160. Farmer Gez

    Testpattern.
    In your opinion, is it racist to adopt an indigenous child or any child of a different race?

  161. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2659774, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    ‘And Bropho had shown callous disregard for the child’s welfare’

    Just as the Duracks had shown callous disregard for Bropho’s father and aunty, and the mothers who had the Durack kids. Toby and Jessie were two of the first generation of stolen kids. MP Durack himself, the pig.

    Thank you

  162. thefrollickingmole

    Look at the oppression in this picture!!!

    Jessie Durack

    Its just like the Armenian massacres all over again.

    Little blackberry man shits the bed again.

  163. Lady Nilk, Iron Bogan

    Rae at 7:54 pm
    As it is conception in rape is relatively rare but even so most women opt to keep any child and what they find is that the child’s unconditional love becomes a channel of healing for them.

    Really? Can you share some documented evidence of this?

    Course not.
    It’s just some bullshit she made up to try and win a stupid argument.

    It’s not bullshite. Steve Kellmeyer dug up the figures a few years ago.

    The Office of Public Health of the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals compiles these statistics. Over the 14-year period 1975 to 1988, 202,135 abortions were performed in Louisiana. Of these, the reasons were listed for 115,243 of them.

    The reasons for these abortions are listed below;
    JUSTIFICATION FOR LOUISIANA ABORTIONS
    Mother’s mental health 114,231 (99.12%)
    Mother’s physical health 863 (0.75%)
    Fetal deformity 103 (0.09%)
    Rape or incest 46 (0.04%)
    This means that, in Louisiana, 1 out of every 2,483 abortions is performed for rape or incest. This number, which is statistically very reliable due to the large sample population, almost precisely confirms the results of the calculations described earlier in this chapter.

    RTWT.

  164. testpattern

    ‘only way to integrate the abos into the modern world is what we did to the neanderthals: breed them out of existence’

    Just back from your holiday home in the Patagonian spa town of Puerto Nuevo Mengele? Go back Adolf.

  165. Arky

    You would have to be fricken’ insane to touch in any way shape or form a student in your care, for any reason other than to immediately save their life. Maybe if they stepped in front of a truck you migbt grab them, but even then in the current environment I would think twice.
    Cut their hair?
    Jesus wept.
    Did this person spend the last twenty years in an isolation chamber?

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    An amazing thing to my mind is that Aboriginal people, despite all that they do to themselves and each other, still have a life expectancy roughly twice that of 1787.

    And if they ditched the modern lefty progressive religious stuff for Christianity their life expectancy would be triple that of 1787.

  167. OneWorldGovernment

    ‘splatter pattern’

    I will make it a life work to shut down Murdoch U.

  168. Stimpy;

    That said India is incredibly dangerous, and I am only talking about the sidewalks, drains, stairs, and roads.

    Don’t get me started on shaking hands.

    Sometimes it doesn’t pay to carry your thoughts on to the next subject.
    India, that’s the place where they shit in the streets?
    No one carries toilet paper around with them, do they?

  169. OneWorldGovernment

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2659786, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    An amazing thing to my mind is that Aboriginal people, despite all that they do to themselves and each other, still have a life expectancy roughly twice that of 1787.

    And if they ditched the modern lefty progressive religious stuff for Christianity their life expectancy would be triple that of 1787.

    x4

  170. Arky

    I had a colleague, long retired, who if a female student came closer than 2 metres he would throw his arms straight up in the air and begin shouting “I am not a p*file! I am not a p*file’! until the young lady retreated to a safe distance.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Little blackberry man shits the bed again.

    Curse you tfm, that’s an afternoon glass of pinot noir you owe me.

  172. OneWorldGovernment

    Winston Smith
    #2659788, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    Stimpy;

    That said India is incredibly dangerous, and I am only talking about the sidewalks, drains, stairs, and roads.

    Don’t get me started on shaking hands.

    Sometimes it doesn’t pay to carry your thoughts on to the next subject.
    India, that’s the place where they shit in the streets?
    No one carries toilet paper around with them, do they?

    Because Australia wont allow them the fuel.

  173. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Come on testes, be a man, admit it, you know that made you horny.

  174. OneWorldGovernment

    Winston Smith

    Little brown Indians have got to stick with burning cow dung.

  175. testpattern

    BLOOD-CURDLING CRUELTIES.

    Squatters and Their Slaves.

    ‘The Aborigines Protection Board and H. Prinsep, the secretary, might just as well go and bury themselves in the desert of Sahara for all the protection they give to the native black…The Duracks are up in Arms
    against the police who show an inclination to treat a black as a human being..’

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211218577?

  176. Arky

    I’ll tell you something else.
    If I ever drop a pen in class I kick the damn thing out into the corridor or into a corner before I pick it up.

  177. OneWorldGovernment

    Hey ‘splatter pattern’

    Have you ever been to the Canberra Aboriginal Tent Embassy?

  178. Harlequin Decline

    cohenite
    #2659448, posted on March 13, 2018 at 1:22 pm and others re Howard’s gun control legislation

    On reading the detail of that particular piece of crap in the SMH I note-

    – Analysis should be normalised for the population change and it isn’t.

    -The data is sparse and no amount of technical jargon used in the article can overcome this.

    -Data is very selective. E.g. there were NO mass killing for around 40 years prior to 1971 but he has selected the period 1976 to 2013.

    -He ignores mass killings that don’t involve firearms

    -And, most tellingly the author is: Dr. Chapman was a member of the Australian Coalition for Gun Control, which advocates for firearm law reform, between 1993 and 1996. Mr. Alpers runs GunPolicy.org, a global nonpartisan clearinghouse for firearm-related data.

    As Ms Mandy Rice-Davies opined-

    “Well he would say that wouldn’t he.”

  179. Chris

    Curse you tfm, that’s an afternoon glass of pinot noir you owe me.

    I just checked the sun, it’s yard-arm o’clock. If it were midwinter. Even so the Mine Manager has not served pinot noir, curse it.

  180. testpattern

    ‘Look at the oppression in this picture!!!’

    Jessie Durack is not Jessie Argyle Molesworth you moron. Jessie Argyle, MP’s black daughter, would have been 10 or so years of age when that pic was taken. Please continue making a fool of yourself, it’s so rewarding.

  181. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Beijing: A “drastic” and “revolutionary” reform of China’s government means Australian businesses and officials will need to deal with a raft of new ministries and most likely, the hand of the Communist Party.

  182. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Until you man up testes, back to ignoring you.

    zzzzzzźžzzzżzžž

  183. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2659771, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:01 pm

    Bolta starts on Trump.
    Not Shorten & super.
    Sad

    Followed by bank bashing, then Mrs Bandana’s poor ratings.
    Blot is preparing for regime change.

  184. Chris

    -And, most tellingly the author is: Dr. Chapman was a member of the Australian Coalition for Gun Control, which advocates for firearm law reform, between 1993 and 1996. Mr. Alpers runs GunPolicy.org, a global nonpartisan clearinghouse for firearm-related data.

    As Ms Mandy Rice-Davies opined-

    “Well he would say that wouldn’t he.”

    Chapman believes that truth is subordinate to the needs of activism.

    Instapundit posted a very interesting piece by a person susceptible to infrasound just 2 days ago, not in the context of windfarms. Field Marshal Dr Professor Chapman Dada went to court to swear infrasound was imaginary to support a subsidy farming gang of bird mincers.

  185. thefrollickingmole

    Arky

    It could be worse, you might save a feminist from being run down by a truck and be denounced in a column as a patriarch or something..
    http://gawker.com/5899046/ryan-gosling-saved-me-from-a-speeding-car-but-theres-war-in-the-middle-east-so-everyone-calm-down
    Everybody needs to calm down about Ryan Gosling saving me from a speeding car.

    It was a curious thing that happened to me on the way to somewhere else. I had just bought a nice pink wig to wear to a friend’s party. I was thinking about an article I’m writing about birth control and the importance of reproductive freedom to women’s rights, and I didn’t remember to look the right way. An actor happened to be passing and stopped me from getting run over by a car. I said “thank you.” And that was that.

    The actor happened to be Ryan Gosling.

    I am grateful to the dashing and meme-worthy Mr. Gosling, just as I am grateful to every other kind New Yorker who has saved me from oncoming traffic in recent weeks, good citizens making the streets of this fine city that much safer for random British writers who can’t remember to look both ways.

    ….
    But as a feminist, a writer, and a gentlewoman of fortune, I refuse to be cast in any sort of boring supporting female role, even though I have occasional trouble crossing the road, and even though I did swoon the teeniest tiniest bit when I realized it was him. I think that’s lazy storytelling, and I’m sure Ryan Gosling would agree with me.

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Little brown Indians have got to stick with burning cow dung.

    I feel sorry for the Injuns.
    The Trudeau fancy dress show one week and the gin-soaked harridan the next.
    Indians must think North Americans are all weirdos.

  187. Arky

    It could be worse, you might save a feminist from being run down by a truck

    ..
    Exactically.
    Think long and hard before saving anyone.
    Because you are responsible for everything they do from then on.
    Heavy.

  188. Arky

    You might accidentally save Hitler.
    Or Stalin.
    Or Miley Cyrus.

  189. OneWorldGovernment

    Arky
    #2659812, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    It could be worse, you might save a feminist from being run down by a truck

    ..
    Exactically.
    Think long and hard before saving anyone.
    Because you are responsible for everything they do from then on.
    Heavy.

    Bulldust Arky

    You always save even if it means killing crap around you..

  190. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    But as a feminist, a writer, and a gentlewoman of fortune, I refuse to be cast in any sort of boring supporting female role, even though I have occasional trouble crossing the road, and even though I did swoon the teeniest tiniest bit when I realized it was him.

    After reading this ungrammatical tripe, glad Thiel broke Gawker’s back.

  191. testpattern

    The Tyrannous Nabobs

    BRUTAL BARBARITIES ON THE BLACKS

    ‘Even the truth, when it accidentally falls from his lips, is like the dead sea fruit that turns to ashes before one tastes it. The public will now know how to estimate the value of the vindications set up by the defenders of the Nor’West squatocracy in their dealings with the blacks, their meat rings, and their exploitings
    of the country generally. We abstain from saying any more about the dead Durack whom our model M.L.A. so incontinently eulogises. Praise from such a quarter is a doubtful compliment, and we can therefore well afford to subscribe to the Epitaph of the man to whose memory it has done more harm than good –R.I.P.’

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32719923?

  192. egg_

    Little brown Indians have got to stick with burning cow dung.

    I feel sorry for the Injuns.
    The Trudeau fancy dress show one week and the gin-soaked harridan the next.
    Indians must think North Americans are all weirdos.

    Clown show one week, Hillbot the next.
    Bread and circuses.

  193. Arky

    You might perform the heimlich maneuver on some random fat bastard in a steak restaurant, and find yourself morally culpable for every future Monty post.

  194. OneWorldGovernment

    So ‘splatter pattern’.

    You have never been to the Canberra Aboriginal Tent Embassy and they would never want you near the place.

    Murdoch University will be shat of you.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Union leaders angered by Tony Sheldon’s presumption of support

    The Australian
    6:26PM March 13, 2018
    Save

    Troy Bramston
    SENIOR WRITER
    Sydney
    @TroyBramston

    Transport Workers Union boss Tony Sheldon has angered powerful union secretaries by pre-empting their support for his bid to become a senator, which still lacks formal union, faction or party endorsement.

    Several union secretaries aligned to the right faction were stunned when Mr Sheldon claimed last week that he had their support to run for the No.1 position on the NSW Senate ticket at the next election.

    Union secretaries from the right faction have not yet endorsed his candidature. A meeting convened by Unions NSW secretary Mark Morey will not be held for several weeks.

    Mr Sheldon, the national secretary of the TWU, will then have to win the endorsement of the broader NSW right faction, which will not meet until after Easter. He will then have to run in a ballot at Labor’s state conference on June 30-July 1.

    Last Friday, there was an informal meeting of union secretaries, including from the Transport Workers Union, the Electrical Trades Union and the Communications Electrical and Plumbing Union, before the broader right administrative committee meeting.

    Mr Sheldon raised his intention to nominate for Senate preselection at the meeting but the most powerful unions, including the Australian Workers Union and the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association, were not present.

    Mr Sheldon told The Australian on Friday: “I have received support from the right unions across the state, and am seeking endorsement from the right group,” he said. “I will then seek the support of the party conference, and the electorate.”

    Several union secretaries were bemused and annoyed that Mr Sheldon had taken their support for granted and that he did not return their phone calls.

    From the Oz. “Born to rule”,anyone?

  196. Chris

    You might perform the heimlich maneuver on some random fat bastard in a steak restaurant, and find yourself morally culpable for every future Monty post.

    I will take my chances on that.

    Far more problematic is the thought that I might perform CPR on a random person found unconscious at an internet-connected Gameboy in his mother’s basement, and find his/her multiple formaldehyde-scented skins peeling off as I pump his unresponsive chest.

  197. OneWorldGovernment

    Arky
    #2659818, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    You might perform the heimlich maneuver on some random fat bastard in a steak restaurant, and find yourself morally culpable for every future Monty post.

    Nah,

    Just know who you are and shove a fig leaf up his nose.

    I’ve been a teacher Arky.

    I’ve had smart type kids want to have a ‘go’ at me.

    I tell them to get out of my class and find your own thing and make sure you complain about me.

  198. egg_

    EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING HILLARY CLINTON HAS BLAMED FOR LOSING THE ELECTION – 42 AND COUNTING

    The vast right-wing conspiracy?

  199. will

    OldOzzie
    #2659776, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:06 pm
    Talking about aging porn stars

    While Trump moves forward with his pledge of making America great again reality and not just letters on a red hat, all the leftist media want to talk about is some aging porn star trying to revive her stripper career, some sort of tax apocalypse due to Trump’s tax plan, the sinking of the global economy due to Trump’s tariffs, and North Korea’s leader embarrassing Trump at a game of denuclearization whack-a-mole.

    Democrats and their compliant and complicit media may have their version of the facts, but reality has its own checks and balances.

    Today I am being told by no less an authority as the BBC on the wireless that the Trump administration is reluctant to criticise Russia, following their muted response to the use of nerve agent in the UK. Nothing short of a declaration of war will do, after all what else would the BBC expect Trump to do?

  200. OneWorldGovernment

    Arky

    When they complain they have to explain what was said.

    Drag in their parents and I drag it up the nose of the irresponsible parents.

    Mind you, I mainly teach my own curriculum.

  201. OldOzzie

    The NHTSA Says Electric Vehicles Can No Longer Stay Silent at Low Speeds

    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    new ruling mandates that, by 2019, electric and hybrid cars must emit artificial sounds so pedestrians, cyclists, and the blind can better detect these ultraquiet machines. It codifies the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act that Congress passed in 2010, with support from engineering group SAE International and various industry and advocacy groups for the blind. The feds first raised the issue back in 2007, well before the second-generation Toyota Prius would push hybrids into the mainstream.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates the added noise will prevent 2400 pedestrian injuries each year after September 1, 2020, when every new hybrid and EV must be equipped to make sounds. Automakers must equip at least half of such models by September 2019. Only vehicles under 10,000 pounds GVWR are included; electrified motorcycles, three-wheelers, and medium- and heavy-duty trucks are exempt. Want more logic? Gasoline and diesel vehicles with auto stop/start systems aren’t required to make extra sounds while stationary, while EVs and hybrids must.

  202. Arky

    I’m just soft I’m afraid, OWG.

  203. thefrollickingmole

    Little Blackberry man uses a first name, and “Durack”.
    Then quickly changes to another surname afterwards.

    Low energy
    Sad.

  204. Muddy

    Arky
    #2659791, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    I had a colleague, long retired, who if a female student came closer than 2 metres he would throw his arms straight up in the air and begin shouting “I am not a p*file! I am not a p*file’! until the young lady retreated to a safe distance.

    While taking my dog for a swim in the river last Friday afternoon, I noticed a couple of 10-12 year old boys doing something to a fence around a building site. I kept an eye on them from across the road, but they noticed and starting getting shitty. I just shrugged my shoulders and went back to my business. Next thing, they’ve come back with their 16 or 17-year old brother who proceeds to pose and abuse me. Again from across the road, so it was an irritant only. I gave him the same shrug and ‘I can’t hear you’ response and returned to my dog. A couple of minutes later the old man turns up and cranks up the abuse and posturing. Same response from me. I couldn’t do much as it was a busy road and I was concerned about my dog’s safety if push came to shove. None of the ferals crossed the road of course, but what pissed me off bigtime was that they spent the next 15 minutes taking photos of me and stalking me up and down the street. Don’t know what the feckers have done with the photos, which worries me just a bit. The verbal abuse didn’t phase me, but the photos … yes.

    The moral of the story? Being a bloke simply minding his own business is not always as ‘privileged’ as it sounds.

  205. OneWorldGovernment

    will
    #2659826, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    OldOzzie
    #2659776, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:06 pm
    Talking about aging porn stars

    When Trump America blew the shit out of da Russians and left mangled body parts like da Russians hadn’t seen in some time there was an American Force Leader that walked up top of a building not far from those ‘ottomans’ and bared his chest and screamed at the xunts across the ‘line’.

    You think NK doesn’t understand.

    You think the World does not understand?

  206. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1721

    Sadly some activists with an an anti alcohol agenda are conflating separate issues too.

    Haven’t you had a few words to say about prohibition recently?

  207. Leigh Lowe

    Barry

    #2659828, posted on March 13, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Did someone get to them. Or did they realise their narrative was wrong

    At breakfast it was CYCLONE.
    By dinnertime it was a rain depression.

  208. calli

    Muddy, you were preventing them from stealing materials when they wanted to. You criminal.

  209. testpattern

    ‘Then quickly changes to another surname’

    You fucked up molesworth. Again. Your type always does. They are two different women. Your pic of Jessie Durack is not Jessie Argyle, who was MP Durack’s daughter. She was taken in 1906 when she was around 6 years old. You must be braindamaged not to have noticed.

  210. rickw

    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    Pretty pointless given that most of generation snowflake permanently have their headphones on, and get spectacularly run over as a consequence.

  211. OneWorldGovernment

    Arky
    #2659830, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    I’m just soft I’m afraid, OWG.

    I’m glad you are soft Arky.

    Children at school need men that are soft but strong.

    I used to tell off any fellow students that took advantage of soft teachers and tell the students I would beat their heads in.

  212. Leigh Lowe

    Have you been sniffing unleaded Testes?

  213. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Time to start incarcerating the left, these people are nothing but criminals.

    Conservative Activist, Journalist Lauren Southern Detained at Calais, Banned From Entering UK

  214. Muddy

    Calli – Unintentionally training the next generation of gutless CMFEU thugs is more like it. Though I’m sure daddy already has that well in hand. He was a bit limp just posing over the other side of the street though. But the photos … that has me still frothing.

  215. Farmer Gez

    Ain’t injun culture grand
    Not as straight forward as you would think Zippy.
    Indian marriage law sets the minimum age for girls at 18 and 21 for boys.
    There are unlawful marriages at under 15 but very few in relation to the population and numbers are falling fast.

  216. The only way to integrate the abos into the modern world is what we did to the neanderthals: breed them out of existence.

    Your periodic reminder that Zippy is a racist loon.

  217. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2659839, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    ‘Then quickly changes to another surname’

    You fucked up molesworth. Again. Your type always does. They are two different women. Your pic of Jessie Durack is not Jessie Argyle, who was MP Durack’s daughter. She was taken in 1906 when she was around 6 years old. You must be braindamaged not to have noticed.

    It must be a sad life you have.

  218. Arky

    The moral of the story? Being a bloke simply minding his own business is not always as ‘privileged’ as it sounds.

    ..
    I was walking the dog down a dirt track between the golf course and the back of a housing estate.
    Out in the middle of the track was a maybe, two years old girl.
    No one around.
    Who the hell leaves their kid out on the middle of a public track?
    I had to drive home to get the missus, berating myself the whole way for being a coward.
    But you just cannot put yourself at that risk.
    Kid was gone by the time we came back, so we had to go looking around houses until I found her.
    Fucking nightmare.

  219. Chris

    The verbal abuse didn’t phase me, but the photos … yes.

    Yes. Take you own, and turn on your recorder.
    I think its high time we had an app to call a dozen or so nearby Cats to help help give calm assessments to such people.

  220. testpattern

    ‘Far more problematic is the thought that ‘… you’re an obvious liar peddling lies

    Still waiting for you to tell me who built the new wharf at Roper Bar in 1981 and why.

  221. Entropy

    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    Great, so all EVs at low speed will soon sound like a reversing truck.

    Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep!Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep!

  222. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t know what the feckers have done with the photos, which worries me just a bit. The verbal abuse didn’t phase me, but the photos … yes.

    I was “on the desk” at a local event, where an accredited photographer, hired by the organizers of the event, wearing a company shirt, and driving a company van, was roundly denounced, by some wannabee vigilante, for taking pictures of children, wearing event T – shirts – with their parents consent. Fortunately, the cops were there, and they intervened.

  223. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    WORTHY OF A REPOST

    Climate Depot’s Marc Morano, dubbed a “climate killer” by Rolling Stone, is upsetting eco-extremists again. Morano has a new book that has quickly climbed the bestseller list on Amazon. Currently, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change is first place in four categories: Climatology, Earth Sciences, Environmental Science & Nature, and Ecology.

  224. Chris

    destesticle, you really are making a mistake hanging out with us and serving up this tripe; guilt by association you know. Perhaps you would be better heading off and getting some nguky? You obviously do so much better than us.
    OTOH you could just grow up and join the conversation. Plainly you are capable of better.

  225. Roger.

    Indians must think North Americans are all weirdos.

    Yes, they do.

  226. Arky

    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    ..
    I suggest a low, dulcet farty noise.

  227. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    French extra-legal islamophilia. I get it, it’s the I in LGBIQPXYZ

  228. OneWorldGovernment

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2659843, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:10 pm

    Time to start incarcerating the left, these people are nothing but criminals.

    Conservative Activist, Journalist Lauren Southern Detained at Calais, Banned From Entering UK

    I live in a true multi cultural society.

    They all know that I am Australian.

    I have told EVERY British person that the next war is yours to fight and that NO Australian will come and defend you at all.

    When Germany is smashed apart it will never rise again.

  229. hzhousewife

    So my student daughter, who pays no tax, inherited some shares from her grandmother and gets $90 twice a year in dividends. This will be denied her? At the very least these dollars could be used to reduce her HECS?

  230. Muddy

    Yes. Take you own, and turn on your recorder.
    I think its high time we had an app to call a dozen or so nearby Cats to help give calm assessments to such people.

    Thanks Chris. I used to leave my phone at home when taking the dog out, which probably doesn’t sound so smart. My concern was not so much the potential physical encounter (though I’m not sure if anyone looks forward to those kind of moments), but the involvement of kids. It doesn’t take much at all what with the internet now, to make a false allegation, publish photos, and bingo! Job gone, hounded out of your home, etc etc. Maybe I’m too soft like Arky. I wish I had more of a ‘killer’ instinct – with the adult, I mean, not the kids – but I tend to want to talk my way out of these situations first. I think too much with my brain instead of thinking with my body, weird as that statement probably reads.

  231. Bruce of Newcastle

    By 2020, all new EVs must emit an external noise to alert pedestrians of their presence under 19 mph.

    The Mr Whippy tune?

  232. testpattern

    Another historic victory!

    ‘FORTY years after they started their fight, Mantiyupwi Tiwi people have been recognised as the owners of the Vernon Islands…Nigel Scullion told the crowd the hand back ceremony was a recognition of what had always been true. “We’re giving back land that was always yours in any event,” he said.’

    http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/history-made-as-vernon-islands-handed-back-to-traditional-owners/news-story/3ba6cf96e588185b48c9435164ca4168

    https://ministers.pmc.gov.au/scullion/2018/celebrating-vernon-islands-handover

  233. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2659854, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    who built the new wharf at Roper Bar in 1981 and why.

    I give in.

    Who did and why?

  234. Roger.

    I think too much with my brain instead of thinking with my body, weird as that statement probably reads.

    Real life is not a Hollywood movie, Muddy.

    You don’t want to be going through life with a conviction for assault or affray, however justified it may have seemed at the time.

  235. OneWorldGovernment

    splatter pattern

    answer my question you zunt

  236. testpattern

    ‘you really are making a mistake’

    Now tell us about Roper Bar 1981, who built the new wharf and why. If you were anywhere near the place you will know. Or be exposed, once more, as a liar peddling racist lies.

  237. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2659872, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    ‘you really are making a mistake’

    Now tell us about Roper Bar 1981, who built the new wharf and why. If you were anywhere near the place you will know. Or be exposed, once more, as a liar peddling racist lies.

    Your dead

  238. Mark A

    Muddy
    #2659866, posted on March 13, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Thanks Chris. I used to leave my phone at home when taking the dog out, which probably doesn’t sound so smart.

    It certainly isn’t smart Muddy. The whole idea of a “mobile” phone is that it is, sort of mobile.
    Not much good to you, it sitting at home when you are in trouble on the road.

  239. Muddy

    Arky,
    I can empathise with your story of the 2 year-old. If I saw a kid get hurt, with no other adults in the immediate vicinity (and no female with me), I’d go and find someone, or call the cops if I had my phone. I’d only go near the kid if they were still in danger, and even then, I’d be panicking at the lack of witnesses. What a fecked-up world we live in.

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