Open Forum: March 17, 2018

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  1. Motelier

    I’d be surprised if she was responsible for the incorrect tensioning of the supporting cables in situ, that almost certainly caused the cracks referred to in the male engineers voicemail and led to the collapse of the bridge. In fact I’d put money on that entire chain of events involving men only.

    So tell me Captain Oblivious, how come nothing was done when the cracks were noticed?

  2. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #2663840, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    Kelli Underwood

    The worst commentator evah.
    But keeps her job because wymminses.

  3. EvilElvis

    We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build too.

    Currently managing in a female dominated industry and the above is bullshit.

    Need something delicate or arty doing? All the little girls call on the 6’5″ cavemen to pull it off. 0

  4. H B Bear

    The worst commentator evah.

    Yep. Straight to the off switch.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just got back from visiting a dad minding his two children while mum has a weekend away with the girls (she did ask me to look in). The kids were freely playing with assorted Lego, and I dutifully admired both constructions: the six year old girl had made a lovely house, with verandahs to the outside and a princess’s tower on top displaying a colourful pennant. The eight year old boy had made a missile launcher, demonstrating to me with sound effects its coming utility in protecting the house from invaders.
    No gender bending here, then? I enquire of the dad.
    No way. Says it all really, doesn’t it? he replied.
    ————-
    And these are some old funnies I came across again recently. Sorry if you’ve heard them. Possibly apocryphal, they are about the dimness of legal eagles asking witnesses some questions:

    No. 1
    Q – You say the stairs went down to the basement?
    A – Yes
    Q – And these stairs, did they go up also?

    No 2
    Q – How was your first marriage terminated?
    A – By death.
    Q – And by whose death was it terminates?

    No 3
    Q – Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
    A – No.
    Q – Did you check for blood pressure?
    A – No.
    Q – Did you check for breathing?
    A – No.
    Q – So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
    A – No.
    Q – How can you be so sure, Doctor?
    A – Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
    Q – But could the patient have been alive nevertheless?
    A – Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.

  6. egg_

    A Female-Led Construction Company Built The Florida Bridge That Collapsed

    Was YAM involved?

  7. struth

    6 people dead, sacrificed on the alter of diversity.
    Think about what the actual number already is, and the number it will get to.

    How many faces attacked by acid while female Met Police, too scared to go outside, sit in front of computers concerned about the free speech of citizens being exercised?

    ETC.

    Diversity kills.
    Meritocracy saves lives.

  8. Slayer of Memes

    m0nty
    #2663723, posted on March 18, 2018 at 9:43 am

    But the whole Mueller investigation was set up to pursue claims of collusion.

    No. The key phrase was “links and/or coordination”. The word “collusion” does not appear in Rosenstein’s letter. The terms of the investigation are broad enough to encompass any crime found while investigating the case.

    Called it 4 days ago!!

    Slayer of Memes
    #2660534, posted on March 14, 2018 at 3:15 pm
    Fox News has some Leftist shill on right now, who is literally arguing that the Mueller investigation was NEVER about collusion, even snapping at the show’s host and saying “why do you keep saying collusion?”

    Obviously they have now realised that, since the House Select Committee report has shown that the whole ‘Trump/Russia Collusion’ narrative is dead, they are desperate to pretend that it was never about that…

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Possibly apocryphal, they are about the dimness of legal eagles asking witnesses some questions:

    “I put it to you, that you are hardly a impartial witness, that you, too were shot in the fracas?”

    “No, I was shot half way between the fracas and the navel.”

  10. egg_

    Above quoatation from Nota’s link.

    From the comments:

    MCM appears to be Hispanic (i.e., minority) owned, meaning that it gets favorable treatment in the bidding and selection process.

    From the article:

    The company is building an expansion to Fort Lauderdale International Airport and a worker there was injured when a makeshift bridge collapsed under his weight, the lawsuit says, according to the Winston Salem-Journal.

    Diversidee owned company hiring incompetent* Diversidee.

    The litigious US is not the place to experiment with questionable competency in Construction.

  11. C.L.

    Who actually introduced the notion of fatherhood being an optional condition for the care and custody of children? And who is now attempting to use the same arguments used earlier to justify this crank notion by extending it to motherhood? Not only have urban bugwomen justified to themselves the destruction of the child in utero but they are now maneuvering to justify to themselves the abandonment of their children so they are free to buy soy mayonnaise. FMD.

    Precisely.

    Old and busted feminism: children must be removed from men at every possible opportunity; not only are they all rapists and child molesters, their very presence only entrenches patriarchal and heteronormative hatreds in their children.

    Hot new feminism: men are the absolute equal of women when it comes to nurturing children and should be given charge of them at every opportunity – especially when we want out.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Some other pieces of wit, with authorial recognition:

    General Cautions:

    “Luge strategy? Lie flat and try not to die.” (Carmen Boyle, Olympic Luge Gold Medal winner, 1996)
    “My cousin just died. He was only 19. He got stung by a bee – the natural enemy of a tightrope walker” (Dan Rather, news anchorman)

    Relationship Advice:

    “Honesty is the key to a relationship. If you can fake that, you’re in.” (Courtney Cox, Monica on Friends).
    “Ah, yes, divorce … from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man’s genitals through his wallet” (Robin Williams)
    “My girl friend always laughs during sex – no matter what she’s reading” (Steve Jobs, founder of Apple Computers)
    “Instead of getting married again, I’m going to find a woman I don’t like and just give her a house” (Rod Stewart)
    “On the one hand, we’ll never experience childbirth. On the other hand, we can open all our own jars.” (Bruce Willis, on the difference between men and women)

  13. C.L.

    Who actually introduced the notion of fatherhood being an optional condition for the care and custody of children? And who is now attempting to use the same arguments used earlier to justify this crank notion by extending it to motherhood? Not only have urban bugwomen justified to themselves the destruction of the child in utero but they are now maneuvering to justify to themselves the abandonment of their children so they are free to buy soy mayonnaise. FMD.

    Precisely.

    Old and busted feminism: children must be removed from men at every possible opportunity; not only are they all r-p1ts and child molesters, their very presence only entrenches patriarchal and heteronormative hatreds in their children.

    Hot new feminism: men are the absolute equal of women when it comes to nurturing children and should be given charge of them at every opportunity – especially when we want out.

  14. President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer said former adult-film actress Stephanie Clifford could be liable for damages of at least $US20 million for breaching a nondisclosure agreement that barred her from discussing an alleged extramarital affair with Mr. Trump.

    From The Oz.
    Is this a bargaining chip, a threat, or plainly speaking about the way ahead?

  15. herodotus

    Weatherill said they’d achieved much over the sixteen years. Like the river foreshore. Great.

  16. Tel

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare #2663858,

    This is my favourite:

    Q — Are you attempting to show contempt for this court?
    A — No your Honour, I’m attempting to conceal it.

  17. C.L.

    “It’s very important for me as a woman and an engineer to be able to promote that to my daughter because I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build too.”

    A Female-Led Construction Company Built The Florida Bridge That Collapsed

    They designed it at the wrong time of the month, apparently.

  18. Slayer of Memes

    Just posting this for posterity:

    m0nty
    #2541230, posted on November 2, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    The other day Monty described OCO as stupid for not knowing how things were going to go down. But Monty refuses to tell us what’s going to happen.

    Snoopy, anyone who tells you they know exactly how it is going to go down is kidding you, and themselves. There are too many moving parts at this point. I believe I referred to what was coming, and I can talk about that.
    What is coming is this:
    – Mueller dividing and conquering by doing to multiple other Trumpkins what he already did to Papadopoulos and Page, turning them into snitches to get people on tape fessing up to major crimes;
    – Sessions has already perjured himself in public Congressional testimony so one can only imagine the disclosure mistakes he has made privately;
    – Flynn and his son are up to the eyeballs in Russian contacts, they are so rooted Mueller won’t bother to turn them;
    – Kushner’s fate probably lies with whether Mueller can prove he engaged with the Russians through Cambridge Analytica to largely outsource their campaign to a hostile foreign power, which is going to be a tough task;
    – Trump’s main problem is his history of dodgy deals with Russians, which means his business associates like Felix Sater will be major targets for Mueller to flip… though he may end up like Nixon when tapes of his private convos surface and even his voters recoil in horror at the hidden man behind the persona.
    It’s not going to be a daily breaking news extravaganza, but the pressure will keep coming and coming. Mueller wil do Trump slowly. In the meanwhile, there will never be any clear air for Trump to get anything constructive done. He is a lame duck, if not a dead duck just yet.
    He may very well last to the midterms and even not lose the House due to the gargantuan gerrymanders put in place by state GOPs. But he won’t have the numbers for any major lasting legislation.

  19. C.L.

    Poor old Stormy.
    She realises the money Trump paid her is nothing compared to what Democrat/media interests will fork out for her (largely invented) tidbits about the affair.
    But uh-oh. Anything she gets she’ll lose fighting off a law suit for breach of contract.
    Decisions, chances, risks – and the audience is waiting … It’s like some kind of whore’s game show.

  20. egg_

    From the comments MBE Minority Business Enterprise get favourable treatment under Clinton.

  21. twostix

    It’s eventually going to turn out that it’s the democrats and bugman class who were played by Russian puppets and agents – their at any cost desire to beat Trump easily exploited.

    And we already know about democrats very real deep Russian connections.

    So like how after Brennan’s CIA got busted hacking US senate comittee computers that story was immediatly swept under the rug, as it will be when the reality of this outs as it slowly is. By then it will simply be on page five of Google and they will never mention it again.

  22. twostix

    M0nty spent the first half of last year autistically and relentlessly commenting about how Trump was a literal Russian spy.

    Thousands of comments for nothing.

  23. cohenite

    mh

    #2663868, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    Cate Blanchett: Sandra Bullock And I Got ‘Penis Facials’

    Sums up Hollywood and basically the whole left side of politics.

  24. twostix

    Oh and Obama democrats were the most punitive and criminally corrupt in living memory – using state power to spy on, crush and harrass anyone and everyone.

    There was hints of this early on when stories startedcouting of them prosecuting more whstle blowers than any other administration ever.

  25. egg_

    Probably incompetent minority hire, regardless of gender, was the issue.
    There was a case of an Asian nurse at Westmead? who had difficulty reading a Doctor’s handwriting and gave 10x the dosage and killed a patient, when common sense would tell you if you are a factor of 10 out on a dosage – or perhaps lose face and ask someone for a second opinion?

  26. mh

    cohenite
    #2663885, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    mh

    #2663868, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    Cate Blanchett: Sandra Bullock And I Got ‘Penis Facials’

    Sums up Hollywood and basically the whole left side of politics.

    Monty will want a ‘penis facial’ now.

  27. – Mueller dividing and conquering by doing to multiple other Trumpkins what he already did to Papadopoulos and Page, turning them into snitches to get people on tape fessing up to major crimes;

    Yep, this was a correct prediction.

    – Sessions has already perjured himself in public Congressional testimony so one can only imagine the disclosure mistakes he has made privately;

    Yet to be confirmed but this is still very much on the cards.

    – Flynn and his son are up to the eyeballs in Russian contacts, they are so rooted Mueller won’t bother to turn them;

    This one was incorrect, which is good because Flynn is going to deliver bigger fish.

    – Kushner’s fate probably lies with whether Mueller can prove he engaged with the Russians through Cambridge Analytica to largely outsource their campaign to a hostile foreign power, which is going to be a tough task;

    Today’s news about the Facebook data breach goes a long way towards solidifying this prediction.

    – Trump’s main problem is his history of dodgy deals with Russians, which means his business associates like Felix Sater will be major targets for Mueller to flip… though he may end up like Nixon when tapes of his private convos surface and even his voters recoil in horror at the hidden man behind the persona.

    Sater has been in the news this week because he is trying to clear his name by pointing to a long history of snitching, which no doubt includes assistance to Mueller, so this prediction was right on the money.

    It’s not going to be a daily breaking news extravaganza, but the pressure will keep coming and coming. Mueller wil do Trump slowly. In the meanwhile, there will never be any clear air for Trump to get anything constructive done. He is a lame duck, if not a dead duck just yet.

    Correct. No infrastructure bill, no wall, nothing constructive that Trump did that isn’t wholly attributable to McConnell.

    He may very well last to the midterms and even not lose the House due to the gargantuan gerrymanders put in place by state GOPs. But he won’t have the numbers for any major lasting legislation.

    Also correct. The tax cuts don’t count, as that was all McConnell.

  28. OneWorldGovernment

    twostix
    #2663884, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    M0nty spent the first half of last year autistically and relentlessly commenting about how Trump was a literal Russian spy.

    Thousands of comments for nothing.

    Let us not forget that ‘oh so holier than thou’ John O Brennan actually faked his CIA interview to disguise that he had voted for the US Communist Party.

    It may be time to exhume Joe McCarthy.

    http://www.thelasttradition.com/2018/03/flashback-lets-remember-ex-cia-chief.html

  29. twostix

    If trump it a lame duck then why spend hours of ones life hyperventilating about autistically documenting all of the things he doesnt do in a blog comments section?

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    White South African farmers: Foreign Minister Julie Bishop refuses to back Peter Dutton’s ‘special treatment’

    The Australian
    12:22PM March 18, 2018
    Olivia Caisley
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @livcaisley

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has refused to back Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton’s claims persecuted white South African farmers deserve “special treatment” when it comes to humanitarian visas, saying they must be “offered on merit”.

    While, Ms Bishop said Australia does monitor the rate of violent crime in South Africa and acknowledged there had been a “dramatic increase” in recent years with over 19,000 murders recorded, persecuted South Africans were eligible for Australian humanitarian visas, but, these applications would be “considered on merit”.

    Speaking on the ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday, the Foreign Minister conceded the South African Government had been offended by Mr Dutton’s remarks and rejected his suggestion white farmers were facing “horrific circumstances”.

    From the Oz. Julie Bishop, proving lightweight status, yet again. Musn’t upset the ANC Government, must we?

  31. twostix

    I think women have a different perspective. We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build too.”

    The bridge they built was ugly and fell down.

  32. Infidel Tiger

    Women should stick to throw rugs and cushions. Leave bridges to men please.

  33. notafan

    Is soy mayonnaise a key ingredient in pearl necklaces.

    Thank you LL

    you just gave a whole new meaning to Gillian Triggs’s complaint about wearing the pearls and the snazzy jackets

  34. notafan

    M0nty spent the first half of last year autistically and relentlessly commenting about how Trump was a literal Russian spy.

    Monty famously claimed, in Nov 2016, that Trump had been a Russian spy for five years.

  35. twostix

    It requires an amazing ignorance for a bridge builder to look around the world and say that women bring an “artistic touch” to construction as if men don’t.

    Then build a short ugly foot bridge that inmediately collapses while the golden gate bridge stands.

  36. OneWorldGovernment

    Hey “m zero” – Riddle me this

    Reminder, as of June 28, 2017, Andrew McCabe was the subject of 3 separate pending investigations:

    1- Department of Justice Office of Inspector General examining his failure to recuse himself from the Clinton investigation due to his political relationship with McAuliffe.

    2- OSC investigating allegations he violated the Hatch Act by engaging in political campaign activities.

    3- Subject of a pending Equal EEO complaint by a female FBI agent for sex discrimination, alleging she was targeted for retaliation because of her complaint.

    AND

    Flynn provided a letter of support for the complainant in that EEO case, which raises serious questions about why McCabe failed to recuse himself from investigations involving Flynn. Also, why was McCabe the approval authority for his own recusal memo?

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2018/03/deconstructing-former-fbi-deputy.html

  37. Stimpson J. Cat

    the facial utilizes an epidermal growth factor serum “derived from the progenitor cells of the human fibroblast taken from Korean newborn baby foreskin.”

    This is rampant f$cking degeneracy and anyone partaking of this filth is an evil f$cking witch.

  38. Rae

    So well said, that I’ll repeat it on this page and bold the best part:

    A Female-Led Construction Company Built The Florida Bridge That Collapsed

    I’d be surprised if she was responsible for the incorrect tensioning of the supporting cables in situ, that almost certainly caused the cracks referred to in the male engineers voicemail and led to the collapse of the bridge. In fact I’d put money on that entire chain of events involving men only.

    Anyone have any evidence to the contrary?

  39. H B Bear

    Waffleworth’s Performing Stick Insect toeing the UN line … again.

  40. egg_

    Footage of the collapse occuring – a crane is likely at the site of the cracks mentioned in the voicemail report and at the 7 second mark, that’s where the collapse initiates – some dude is standing at that point and falls with the bridge – per the comments in Nota’s link – there are no cables attached to the bridge at this point in time.

  41. Eyrie

    Ragu, read my post again. A pre existing contract for solar in Qld is for the owner at the time of THAt property. If it is sold the contract is broken and voided. The new owner gets the current deal and the old owner gets the current deal in the new house.

  42. egg_

    I’d put money on that entire chain of events involving men only.

    Sock screaming for attention?

  43. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2663899, posted on March 18, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    Women should stick to throw rugs and cushions. Leave bridges to men please.

    LOl. ‘sactly. Wifey’s busy choosing a rug for the extra room we had built. Totally immersed.

  44. feelthebern

    iPhone says my suburb is currently 38.
    Weather.com.au says 37.1.
    I just finished a spot of gardening and hardly broke a sweat.
    It’s nice and breezy.
    BoM fix is in.

  45. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2663892, posted on March 18, 2018 at 12:55 pm

    Get your hand off it before you go blind.

  46. Eyrie

    From the article about the bridge:
    “Florida has been having its bad stroke of luck as of late.”
    Ah yes, “bad luck” in the Heinlein sense.
    “Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

    This is known as “bad luck.” RAH

  47. C.L.

    It was a moronic bridge design – actually pre-built and plonked in place.
    An absolute pile of shit from the get-go.
    The female engineer will probably end up teaching ‘women’s engineering’ somewhere and be quietly – mercifully – forgotten.

  48. nemkat

    The crane hoist rope must’n’t have been attached to the bridge, or that boom would’ve gone nuts.
    Just guessing- the span looks very slender, was it pretensioned or posttensioned?

  49. egg_

    FIU Pedestrian Bridge Collapses Under Own Weight – SketchUp

    Dude shows where the cables are likely to be anchored from, one the bridge is completed.

  50. C.L.

    There was a case of an Asian nurse at Westmead? who had difficulty reading a Doctor’s handwriting and gave 10x the dosage and killed a patient, when common sense would tell you if you are a factor of 10 out on a dosage – or perhaps lose face and ask someone for a second opinion?

    The only reason Asians use chop sticks is the loss of face entailed in admitting knives and forks are better.

  51. Stimpson J. Cat

    LOl. ‘sactly. Wifey’s busy choosing a rug for the extra room we had built. Totally immersed.

    A good rug is incredibly important.
    It gives your wife a place to sit whilst gazing adoringly up at your noble visage as she massages your feet and listens to your exciting adventures after a hard day at work.
    Women understand this.

  52. C.L.

    James Woods takes to John Brennan with a baseball bat:

    James Woods✔@RealJamesWoods

    You couldn’t get a toothpick up this guy’s ass with a pound of Vaseline right now. You’re next, swamp rat.

  53. egg_

    Medico sock is now an Engineering expert.
    Sad.

  54. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1255

    Today’s news about the Facebook data breach goes a long way towards solidifying this prediction.

    That would be the Facebook that collects massive amounts of personal data on its users? Then apparently doesn’t secure the data properly.

    The court case should be fascinating.

    Note to JC: sell Facebook if you have any.

    Then we had the DNC that also didn’t secure its data properly.

    Why are left fascist institutions so collectively incompetent?

  55. notafan

    The first thing I would be looking for when contracting to have a bridge built.

    What is a LEED?

    oh yeah!

    The LEED Professional Exams are administered by the Green Business Certification Inc. (GBCI) for professionals seeking to earn credentials and certificates. The exams test knowledge based on the U.S. Green Building Council’s Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Rating Systems.

    Green construction

  56. Stimpson J. Cat

    There was a case of an Asian nurse at Westmead? who had difficulty reading a Doctor’s handwriting and gave 10x the dosage and killed a patient, when common sense would tell you if you are a factor of 10 out on a dosage – or perhaps lose face and ask someone for a second opinion?

    Those with flat faces cannot afford to lose any – Confucius.

  57. C.L.

    Hey Some History, you there?

    Push to make the Japanese more like white people:

    Why Japan’s smoking laws are stuck ‘in the last century’.

    It’s a scene almost unimaginable in Australia these days.

    Inside a dimly-lit izakaya, or small bar, chefs expertly slice, grill and prepare everything from fresh fish for sashimi to skewers of juicy grilled chicken.

    Just a few metres away a customer pulls out a cigarette and lights up.

    Wispy plumes of exhaled smoke hang in the air of the tiny Tokyo restaurant. It’s a scene that plays out in many restaurants, because in Japan there are no national laws to prevent smoking indoors…

    Hideki Tanaka runs a popular soba noodle restaurant and seats smokers upstairs during lunchtimes — a personal choice for his establishment.

    “During the day time, smoking customers can tolerate not smoking, but at night time they would like to have a drink,” he said.

    Tobacco is sake’s friend and I think people would like to smoke.”

  58. It requires an amazing ignorance for a bridge builder to look around the world and say that women bring an “artistic touch” to construction as if men don’t.

    Then build a short ugly foot bridge that inmediately collapses while the golden gate bridge stands.

    Indeed.

  59. C.L.

    Julie Bishop doing what Julie Bishop does best:

    White South African farmers: Foreign Minister refuses to back Peter Dutton’s ‘special treatment’.

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has refused to back Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton’s claims persecuted white South African farmers deserve “special treatment” when it comes to humanitarian visas, saying they must be “offered on merit”…

    “I’m not going to start generalising,” Ms Bishop said. “There are many South Africans in my own electorate of Curtin and they make a great contribution to life in Australia.”

    “As do so many immigrants from all around the world,” Ms Bishop said.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Julie Bishop doing what Julie Bishop does best:

    Establishing her credentials for leadership of the Liberal Party?

  61. notafan

    ‘artistic touch’ to construction

    Gothic churches, anyone?

    She forgot to mention that she cannot see.

    now here is an artistic footbridge

  62. struth

    This is rampant f$cking degeneracy and anyone partaking of this filth is an evil f$cking witch.

    You have always been the most sane one here,
    No offence intended.

  63. Twostix;

    Thousands of comments for nothing.

    If he were get $1 a comment, that’s not a bad gig.

  64. Farmer Gez

    New rugs are not to be sat on or crossed in any way.
    Their purpose is to produce cooing admiration from fellow women on the said wife’s inate good taste and canny shopping skills. Men have no role in this ritual.

  65. C.L.

    Our own Gab has a dedicated cushion and shoe room.

  66. Rae

    there are no cables attached to the bridge at this point in time.

    Hmm. Let’s go to the tape. In the 2nd video at 1 min 54 secs:

    “… cables suspending the bridge were being tightened after a stress test …”

    More importantly, Smutster, where are the photos/videos showing the gender of the workers involved?

    As I said before:

    I’d put money on that entire chain of events involving men only.

  67. Arky

    nemkat
    #2663925, posted on March 18, 2018 at 1:26 pm
    The crane hoist rope must’n’t have been attached to the bridge, or that boom would’ve gone nuts.
    Just guessing- the span looks very slender, was it pretensioned or posttensioned?

    ..
    Don’t worry about that.
    All bridge collapses are caused by syphilis.

  68. C.L.

    So we’re on the verge of a total turn-around in South Australia, hey?
    The Liberals will slash government spending, abolish renewable energy targets, build a power station, sack public servants, balance the budget, bring rigor to curricula and shirt-front unions.
    Right?
    I mean, seriously. The Liberals are just the Labor A cricket* team. What a yawn.
    ———
    * Crickets, more accurately.

  69. OldOzzie

    struth
    #2663802, posted on March 18, 2018 at 11:18 am
    If you didn’t have this “day’s of our Lives” pantomime being played out for the lefties to salivate over every detail, how could those of us watching this American Security Soap Opera, have so much fun.

    I think Trump knows it helps to keep the dullards focussed on nothing burgers.

    Unhinged John Brennan and Complicit Samantha Power React To Andrew McCabe Firing…

  70. egg_

    “… cables suspending the bridge were being tightened after a stress test …”

    Meeja fvcktard commentary – an internal (cable) truss ‘beam’ was being tensioned at the crane site by a contractor – with live traffic underneath – who signed off on that – our ‘creative’ latino lady friend?

  71. calli

    Why were the cables not secured and tensioned before the walkway was added? I can’t understand the logic behind the design. The cables are meant to take and redistribute the load.

  72. H B Bear

    Testes will be happy. Another 40m black racists he can call friends.

  73. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thousands of comments for nothing.

    Hearts and minds and donuts.

  74. Rae

    It was a moronic bridge design – actually pre-built and plonked in place.

    Perfectly fine bridge design and construction method. Has been around for many years and successfully installed in many locations world-wide.

  75. Farmer Gez

    What happened to weathageddon yesterday?
    Round here it topped out at 32 with only a brisk northerly and plenty of cloud cover. Total fire ban.
    Today is a windy bitch of a day and no fire ban.

  76. Infidel Tiger

    Now we know why women keep bringing up past indiscretions. They can’t build a bridge and get over it.

  77. calli

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has refused to back Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton’s claims persecuted white South African farmers deserve “special treatment” when it comes to humanitarian visas, saying they must be “offered on merit”

    Can we please do a people swap? Two hundred displaced South African farmers for one Foreign Minister.

    It might have a payoff – she can personally track down Dr Elliott while she camps on the dark continent.

  78. Entropy

    “I’m not going to start generalising,” Ms Bishop said

    What a brilliant idea, Julie Bishop!

  79. testpattern

    SA cartoon – Ridin’ the cash cow. Skippy says wtf

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYiOGOFWAAAqbKK.jpg

  80. Roger.

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has refused to back Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton’s claims persecuted white South African farmers deserve “special treatment” when it comes to humanitarian visas, saying they must be “offered on merit”…

    Dutton now not only needs to roll this through Cabinet against Bishop’s wishes, he also needs to start publicly commenting on Bishop’s FA portfolio and contradicting her.

  81. mh

    Julie Bishop will love this:

  82. dopey

    “Why were the cables not secured and tensioned before the walkway was added?”
    Because it was International Womens Day and someone forgot.

  83. egg_

    Why were the cables not secured and tensioned

    It’s a suspension bridge which had not yet been ‘suspended’, animation of completed bridge:

  84. calli

    Oh, goody! Not only racism but anti-Semitism worthy of any German 30’s cartoon.

    Well done!

  85. testpattern

    This SA doctor is still practicing. Maybe Dutton wants to bring him here. Wouter Basson and Project Coast.

    ‘Another unusual project attempted to develop a method of sterilising crowds using a known male sterilant pyridine. This was to be sprayed onto the crowds from a gas cylinder pressurised with nitrogen gas, as pyridine is highly flammable…

    Project Coast supported a project to develop a contraceptive that would have been applied clandestinely to blacks. Goosen reported that the project had developed a vaccine for males and females and that the researchers were still searching for a means by which it could be delivered to make blacks sterile without making them aware’

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Coast

  86. Boambee John

    Lizzie B’s book review is available at Quadrant On-Line.

  87. Roger.

    Mr Test Pattern, allow me introduce you to Mr Non Sequitur.

  88. egg_

    Workers were conducting a “stress test” immediately before the collapse, which may have been a factor, according to the Tampa Bay Times. Bridge engineering and safety experts have also observed from images of the aftermath that the bridge appeared to have no central tower in place. Such columns are typical of cable-stayed suspension bridges, and architectural renderings of the FIU bridge showed it would have one. “When the bridge collapsed, the main tower had not yet been installed, and it was unclear what builders were using as temporary supports,” the Times reported.

  89. calli

    Thanks guys for your comments. I’m trying to get my head around the bridge failure. None of the photos show the tower from which the cables run. Did it fall in the collapse?

  90. cohenite

    Lazy Sunday arvo, reading a brief with talk back radio in the background and the fairy floss fuckwits ringing up about solar paint, a new, better type of solar panel, they excitedly claim. Solar paint in fact is a method, highly expensive and wasteful, of extracting hydrogen. Hydrogen is a good fuel albeit an explosive one. Anyway I give them a call and default to HELE and Thorium. I now expect any minute for some idiot who believes soon we will be able to plug our power chords directly into the air and who has gorged themselves on helen caldicott’s wisdom to ring up and disparage me. Fun times.

  91. egg_

    The National Transportation Safety Board has launched an inquiry into the cause of the collapse. Chairman Robert Sumwalt stated on Thursday that the missing central column would be “part of our investigation.”

  92. Bill Thompson

    Outside Insiders – Fran Kelly & PVO… Fran had been on about folks who regard themselves as journalist material, so I asked how she thinks she fits in. Cabs were a bit hard to come by in Southbank this morning, so maybe Fran negotiated some existing passengers out, so she & PVO could get in?

    https://youtu.be/T6CbQsET45c

  93. Roger.

    None of the photos show the tower from which the cables run. Did it fall in the collapse?

    No; it seems they forgot to build it.

  94. calli

    Snappy snap, egg_! Holy cow! It must have been held up by unicorn farts.

  95. Farmer Gez

    Gee Testy.
    Sterilising large portions of the African population.
    The UN have been trying to do that for decades. Racists!

  96. mh

    Sounds like a politically-correct bridge. Just not correct in any other way.

  97. egg_

    This dude shows pics of the final design at the end of his video (from upthread):

  98. calli

    It’s a strange omission, being the principle structural member and all.

    Did no-one notice?

  99. Roger.

    Sounds like a politically-correct bridge.

    Main support tower dismissed as too phallic?

  100. calli

    I saw that video at the first posting, egg_, that’s why I thought I was missing something. How do you tension non-existent cables? (Not the ones in the concrete, but the ones actually holding up the bridge).

    I worked with a guy once who, when he ran out of ideas for a site, simply stopped drawing. The idea was that the problem would “work itself out on the ground”. The mindset seems disturbingly similar.

  101. egg_

    Snappy snap, egg_! Holy cow! It must have been held up by unicorn farts.

    The trouble with know-it-all socks leading everyone astray.
    The cables being tested/tensioned were internal – some pics show the exposed cables at the base of the roof ‘truss’ structure – all of the uprights leading to the roof are part of the suspension system and hold up the whole structure, the ‘truss’ (sub)part is merely to support the roof – it is a suspension bridge, structurally.

  102. Roger.

    “This was a good project,” [FIU chair] Dr. Rosenberg said Friday. “This was a project that spoke to our desire to build bridges. When the board hired me, I told them, ‘If you give me a pile of rocks, I’m going to build a bridge, not a wall.’

    Bridge collapse saps spirits at FIU.

  103. calli

    If you give me a pile of rocks, I’m going to build a bridge, not a wall.’

    They. Just. Can’t. Help. Themselves.

  104. Rae

    The trouble with know-it-all socks leading everyone astray.

    No-one, sock or other, has tried to lead anyone astray about the footbridge collapse. Except, of course, you Smutster. And you have been frantically trying to cover your sorry arse all afternoon. Unsuccessfully. You could retire today as the most epic Cat face-planter of all time.

  105. OneWorldGovernment

    Rae

    I stand in AWE of your AWESOMENESS knowledge of EVERYTHING.

    Are you the worlds first Polymath with multiple credentials or just a farqwit with multiple personalities?

    I trust someone has reported you to ASIS because you could tell them what to do.

    Either that or directly farq off

  106. egg_

    I worked with a guy once who, when he ran out of ideas for a site, simply stopped drawing. The idea was that the problem would “work itself out on the ground”. The mindset seems disturbingly similar.

    A unique prefab construction from the link above, but not yet suspended (needs the missing suspension tower) – most commenters, including FIU students, thought there should have at least been a temporary central support in the middle of the roadway until the suspension cables and suspension tower were added.

  107. Knuckle Dragger

    Unbelievable.

    In the wake of Cyclone Marcus, which left 26,000 Darwin homes without power and trees down all over the place, the NT Dept of Health has issued a warning for residents to boil water before consumption.

    Fair enough, but they said to either drink packaged water or to ‘boil water and ALLOW IT TO COOL before drinking it.

    I’m now waiting for media reports of people being admitted to hospital for drinking boiling water. FFS.

  108. egg_

    No-one, sock or other, has tried to lead anyone astray

    Sock ineptitude – the suspension bridge does not yet have its suspension cables attached.

    /Former Safety Engineer with Sydney Bridges and Tunnels

  109. testpattern

    The African Mahogony trees knocked down in Darwin were planted by George Brown and his sidekick the newly arrived Indon grandfather of a certain Darwin diva during Tracy reconstruction. We’ve known for decades they were a disaster in waiting and should’ve been replaced. Far more important than waterparks. African Mahoganies must now be removed and replaced with the Manbinik and the Melville Island White Beech.

    Manbinik

    file:///D:/TENPS+Newsletter+January+2014.pdf

  110. Top Ender

    Top End update from Top Ender

    23, 000 homes without power in the Darwin area. Some may not get electricity back until Wednesday. Not good as we need our fridges and freezers up here for food more than southerners.

    Most of the electricity problems are caused by trees and power poles being blown over in the older suburbs. There was a program to replace the poles and wires with underground conduit but from memory it was stopped some years back.

  111. Slayer of Memes

    Thousands of comments for nothing.

    Hearts and minds and donuts.

    Bread Donuts and circuses…

  112. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From egg_ at 3:03 pm:

    “This dude shows pics of the final design at the end of his video (from upthread):”

    With any luck he is not allowed anywhere near practical applications, given that he didn’t bother thinking through how he should make his case and that, when he gathered his barely developed thoughts together, he was simply inept in explaining them.

  113. H B Bear

    Testes now with racist trees. Time to go outside and play. Or get one of the kids and go fishing.

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    Most of the electricity problems are caused by trees and power poles being blown over in the older suburbs.

    I was thinking to myself that after Tracy building standards were improved to handle cyclones.
    Unfortunately no one told trees that.

  115. RobK

    Thanks for the update.
    My best wishes with all that TopEnder. My thoughts are with you.

  116. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2664011, posted on March 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm
    Top End update from Top Ender

    23, 000 homes without power in the Darwin area. Some may not get electricity back until Wednesday. Not good as we need our fridges and freezers up here for food more than southerners.

    Most of the electricity problems are caused by trees and power poles being blown over in the older suburbs. There was a program to replace the poles and wires with underground conduit but from memory it was stopped some years back.

    Sydney suburbs with underground power do suffer blackouts. The cable has faults, so we are told.

  117. Knuckle Dragger

    TE,

    Yep, the program to go all underground slowly ground to a halt. It may have had something to do with the privatisation of Power/Water a few years back, but I’m not sure.

    I am extremely lucky. I prepped as well as I could, my neighbours were smashed (roof, carport, all their trees gone) but I have power and didn’t get hit too hard. I have a steady stream of mates coming around to charge their devices as well. From my yard I can see quite a few big gums now horizontal, and for once Testes is right. The African mahoganies were planted in the aftermath of Tracy because they grew quickly and give excellent shade.

    However, they have a shallow root base and have a tendency to fall over when the roots are wet and there’s any sort of wind. They’ve already cut 2/3 of them down on the golf course over the past year.

    And there’s another cyclone coming this weekend. W0nderful.

  118. Tel

    Chairman Robert Sumwalt stated on Thursday that the missing central column would be “part of our investigation.”

    A suspension bridge without the tower?!?

    America’s education system is worse than we can comprehend. Need to go back and find what school those people went to and shut the place down. Don’t worry about guns, the US education system is unleashing far more dangerous individuals. This is a new dimension in stupid.

  119. Oh come on

    Stop feeding it. Honestly, you ought to know better by know.

  120. Baldrick

    I keep telling ’em OCO. 😏

  121. I’m just curious about the steel that was used in the bridge.
    If it was Chinese, and was not up to spec, then Trump is going to have a field day.
    Same as if it was ‘laundered’ through Canada or Mexico.
    I’ll wait for the DoT report…

  122. RobK

    Best wishes to you too KD.
    I expect underground power there has the same issues as in northern WA where termimites can play merry hell with all but the most very expensive underground cables.

  123. testpattern

    ‘for once Testes is right’

    You wouldn’t know you liar. You know nothing about Darwin. Now fuck off back to your LOR troll dungeon.

  124. testpattern

    DA’s seven point land reform plan. Turnbull and Bishop should’ve offered assistance to Ramaphosa to help RSA achieve peaceful and sustainable land reform. Plenty of good people to work with. RSA is not a National Interest issue for us but helping quietly wins us prestige and soft power for our miners in Africa. Dutton has fucked it up and should be sacked.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/2018/03/12/7-pillars-to-das-land-reform-policy_a_23383378/

  125. calli

    /Former Safety Engineer with Sydney Bridges and Tunnels

    Chuckle. I think we might know a few of the same people.

    I’m about to do a nice, simple little design for a weight bearing suspended slab. Wouldn’t dream of building it before I run it past my highly conservative structural engineer, bless him.

  126. calli

    Oooh, and it’s cantilevered too. Fun.

  127. stackja

    Northbridge, New South Wales
    From Wikipedia

    Northbridge took its name from its location, north of a sandstone suspension bridge built in 1892. It was constructed by a team of land developers at a cost of 42,000 pounds and originally known as North Sydney Bridge.[1] The engineer responsible for the construction was J.E.Coyle and the style was Federation Gothic, with medieval motifs as “unexpected embellishments”.[2] It has been known as the Northbridge and Cammeray Suspension Bridge but is now called the Long Gully Bridge.[3]

  128. Knuckle Dragger

    Great riposte Testes, you white poverty enabler. I’ve had better insults from 10 year old girls.

    You really should do better, and I was actually saying you were correct on one tiny issue. I suppose it’s hard to see what’s going on up here from your Perth backyard.

    By the way all your ‘countrymen’ rounded up in buses (at my expense) again were transported for safety to the Foskey Pavilion at the Showgrounds, where once again in traditional fashion they avoided the provided facilities and shit all over the floor before demanding free transport to the nearest pub.

    Again. And again and again.

  129. Top Ender

    Knuckles, do you know where that advice about another cyclone is coming from?

    I’ve seen a map on Spacechook but the BOM don’t have anything on it.

  130. Knuckle Dragger

    TE,

    The BOM is saying they’re monitoring an expected low off the Top End, which will develop on Wednesday or thereabouts. This one is supposed to come down through the Cobourg Peninsula but initial modelling has it travelling east of Darwin, through Daly and down to Tindal.

    Have a look at a site called windy.com. Its predictions are historically pretty much bang on, and the emergency services use it to great effect as well when the BOM contacts are a bit vague. It predicts seven days in advance, and was bang on with Marcus.

  131. testpattern

    ‘I was actually saying you were correct on one tiny issue’

    But you wouldn’t know because you just fabricate shit. All downhill for you since you claimed to have lifetime passes from all the land councils to go where ever you want. What a stupid and unsolicited lie to introduce your newest avatar. There was absolutely no need for such a stupid transparent self discrediting lie. your type always fucks up but to do it so early? Back to your LOR bookshop moron.

  132. H B Bear

    When did van Wrongselen wash up onto Ol’ Leathery’s couches? Scrotum Face has got more j’ism spraying rejects now than Teh Grauniad and the J ewish vanity press combined. I guess $1bn a year doesn’t go that far.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Josef Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Tse Tung all pushed “land reform” too.

  134. calli

    The suspension bridge at Northbridge lots its suspenders a long time ago. It’s now resting on a retro-fitted concrete arch.

  135. Mark A

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #2664016, posted on March 18, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    From egg_ at 3:03 pm:

    “This dude shows pics of the final design at the end of his video (from upthread):”

    With any luck he is not allowed anywhere near practical applications, given that he didn’t bother thinking through how he should make his case and that, when he gathered his barely developed thoughts together, he was simply inept in explaining them.

    My thoughts exactly Mick. Poorly understood principles poorly presented are of no practical
    help to anyone.
    Nothing more than ‘look at me’.

  136. Delta A

    Thanks, Cats, for all the fabulous bridge pics throughout the day.

    Once a week or so, there should be a thread dedicated to bridges. (And railway stations.)

  137. Knuckle Dragger

    Not this again.

    Testes, I have such a pass but it expires late this year. I will renew it.

    Prove I lied. I haven’t. Your claim, you substantiate it.

    I have only ever held one avatar.

    What is the age of consent in cultural Aboriginality, you poverty-enabling wannabe Big Man parasite?

  138. Entropy

    TE,

    The BOM is saying they’re monitoring an expected low off the Top End, which will develop on Wednesday or thereabouts. This one is supposed to come down through the Cobourg Peninsula but initial modelling has it travelling east of Darwin, through Daly and down to Tindal.

    Have a look at a site called windy.com. Its predictions are historically pretty much bang on, and the emergency services use it to great effect as well when the BOM contacts are a bit vague. It predicts seven days in advance, and was bang on with Marcus.

    The models are all over the shop at the. One thing. Australia has pretty well had a bloody great ridge squatting over the continent most of summer, which is why the west has had a cracker season and Qld not so much.
    For the next low, the Euro and the CFS models are in wild disagreement, and let’s not both talking about the Bureau.

    So, will the ridge dominate and send the developing cyclone down near Darwin to get seized by the ridge and flung out into the Afura sea (Access), or will a temporary trough split the ridge, grab the cyclone and send it SE into the gulf and eventually Barkly Tablelands bringing much needed rain to western Qld (Euro)? Worse case of course is the trough builds up and sends it barrelling east across the cape and out into the coral sea never to be seen again, also killing a low developing there (GFS).

  139. testpattern

    ‘I have such a pass but it expires late this year. I will renew it.’

    Liar

  140. Dave in Marybrook

    I’m reminded of the Maccabiah Games bridge collapse, which took years and years of investigation to conclude… not much.
    As any soldier knows, marching columns should break step when crossing a bridge, so that co-ordinated footfall does not overload the structure. But this simple fact of physics was buried by a military nation to save face for the proud athletes and the footbridge’s engineers, who reasonably would not have forseen a few hundred buff athletes subconsciously falling into step while singing on their way.

  141. Gab

    I expect underground power there has the same issues as in northern WA where termimites can play merry hell with all but the most very expensive underground cables.

    Don’t know if WA has a termite problem underground, but other parts of Australia do. And yes, termite-proof sheathing over the cables is a little more expensive – but not that much more when you consider it protects the cables from termites for decades upon decades. Specific PA11 sheathing – has a low coefficient of friction so the little buggers can’t get their teeth into it – is still manufactured in Australia, not sure for how much longer though.

  142. OneWorldGovernment

    testpattern
    #2664059, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    ‘I have such a pass but it expires late this year. I will renew it.’

    Liar

    splatter pattern

    Go and take your lithium and crawl back into your Murdoch University Library cubicle.

    Hey, remember the good times of the Wave Hill protest when arzholes like you really did destroy the Australian Aboriginal culture in the West.

  143. cohenite

    One of the spawn of the Florida tragedy demanding removal of guns so he can be protected; I guess he means by sheriff Israel’s deputies who missed their last opportunity while cowering outside as the shooter walked at will in the corridors. This is a speech the little sprog should have made to the shooter:

    https://www.facebook.com/ijrresponse/videos/2004921723097716/

  144. calli

    Dave, if I remember correctly, the bridge also spanned a highly poluted stream that interfered with victim recovery rates. Another embarassment.

  145. testpattern

    ‘The models are all over the shop’

    Historical tracks for March include Max

    http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/history/pdf/max.pdf

    During Max I took stores with my brother to Manny M’s boat in Darwin Harbour and got stuck there there two days. He’d just got it back from the Govt, after having been confiscated for 5 years. He couldn’t cook, the galley had been stripped of anything sellable. Manny and his offsider Sambo took it back to Broome where it sunk on her moorings.

  146. Boambee John

    testpattern
    #2664059, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:08 pm
    ‘I have such a pass but it expires late this year. I will renew it.’

    Liar

    I am always impressed by the logical argument and comprehensive cross-referencing that test pattern puts into his responses.

  147. Herodotus

    Rae does a great job of googling (as in the old days as Grigs) while Testes has an unlimited supply of victimology and hurty-feeling stuff on behalf of our non-assimilated frust-peoples. Forget first peoples, the lack of common sense on that topic is frust-rating.
    The libertarian cartoon in the Week In Pictures linked by Tom this morning was very funny.

  148. OneWorldGovernment

    Gab
    #2664061, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    I expect underground power there has the same issues as in northern WA where termimites can play merry hell with all but the most very expensive underground cables.

    Don’t know if WA has a termite problem underground, but other parts of Australia do. And yes, termite-proof sheathing over the cables is a little more expensive – but not that much more when you consider it protects the cables from termites for decades upon decades. Specific PA11 sheathing – has a low coefficient of friction so the little buggers can’t get their teeth into it – is still manufactured in Australia, not sure for how much longer though.

    Gab,

    Who makes that product please?

  149. Gab

    A video of a wedding from 1913. Love the fancy shower caps the bridesmaids are wearing.

  150. Mark A

    testpattern
    #2664066, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    How old are you TP?
    Just approx. genuine interest.

  151. calli

    Marvellous, Gab.

    And meanwhile, in the Balkans….

    All those doomed young men.

  152. Knuckle Dragger

    Mark A,

    Testes is one, two, three, many years old. Counting, pretend-indigenous style.

    Be gentle with him. He’s been near a cyclone in 1981, with a max wind gust of 107kph, according to his own link. How terrible for him. And Manny and Sambo – don’t even get me started on that one.

  153. Rae

    Rae does a great job of googling

    No googling from me, Heroditus, none.

    The Smutster has, however, been frantically googling stuff about suspension bridges in a desperate effort to cover his multiple face-plantings on the matter of female or male involvement in the collapse of the Miami footbridge.

  154. egg_

    With any luck he is not allowed anywhere near practical applications, given that he didn’t bother thinking through how he should make his case and that, when he gathered his barely developed thoughts together, he was simply inept in explaining them.

    That’s the interwebs, picking the wheat from the chaff.

    This dude has actual (possibly not final)FIU bridge design drawings and photos of the hydraulic tensioning equipment in use at the time of failure – of rods apparently – so the sock is even further off beam.

  155. Mark A

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2664070, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    OWG
    We use a lot of it in the offshore and onshore GAS industry, from Arkema.
    They come under different brand names.

  156. egg_

    The Smutster has, however, been frantically googling stuff about suspension bridges in a desperate effort to cover his multiple face-plantings on the matter of female or male involvement in the collapse of the Miami footbridge.

    Noted for posterity.
    When the enquiry is over, you’ll be buried, dim sock.

  157. egg_

    Nothing more than ‘look at me’.

    Look at who, Mech Eng?

  158. Rae

    Harmonics and bridges.

    Galloping Gertie (the Tacoma Narrows Bridge) is probably the most famous demonstration of the effect of harmonic motion on a suspension bridge. But, what do you think that has to do with the collapse of the Miami footbridge?

  159. egg_

    Rae does a great job of googling

    What is the lubricant used on the cables of the ANZAC Bridge?
    Go!

  160. testpattern

    ‘termites’

    Some old Darwin hippies made nuclear survival shelters outta the biggest termite mounds down the track. Could always recommission them for Trump v Kim.

  161. OneWorldGovernment

    Mark A
    #2664082, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2664070, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    OWG
    We use a lot of it in the offshore and onshore GAS industry, from Arkema.
    They come under different brand names.

    Thanks Mark A.

    Are you on a list for a school reunion in Melbourne in July?

  162. testpattern

    ‘And Manny and Sambo – don’t even get me started on that one’

    You wouldn’t know where to start, liar. Fuck off back to your LOR reading room.

  163. OneWorldGovernment

    egg_
    #2664089, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    Rae does a great job of googling

    What is the lubricant used on the cables of the ANZAC Bridge?
    Go!

    And what caused the 1970 collapse of the West Gate Bridge span in Melbourne?
    Go!

  164. OneWorldGovernment

    splatter pattern

    let your lithium medication kick in and then we can talk.

  165. cohenite

    Takeaways from the 2018 Australian SDGs Summit

    Riveting stuff. These people are movers and shakers and no doubt shape policy. Wonderful. They should entropy stamped on their pin heads.

  166. nemkat

    Tightening the Post Tensioning in the deck, egg?
    Since you are an engineer, can you tell me the purpose of the crane in your link at 1.27 pm?

  167. nemkat

    And what caused the 1970 collapse of the West Gate Bridge span in Melbourne?
    Go!

    One ting for sure.
    It wasn’t female engineers, dickhead.

  168. Entropy

    cohenite
    #2664097, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:55 pm
    Takeaways from the 2018 Australian SDGs Summit

    Riveting stuff. These people are movers and shakers and no doubt shape policy. Wonderful. They should entropy stamped on their pin heads.

    Hey!
    Why would I want to own those parasites?

  169. nemkat

    From Tel’s link at 4.48, the bridge hadn’t been completed, just the span across the Highway.

    Pressure from the DoT to reopen the 8 lane Highway?
    Don’t bet against it, i say.

  170. Rockdoctor

    Top Ender
    #2664051, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:00 pm

    Awesome, thanks TE I now have another site to do my weather watching at this time a year. Particularly like you are able to look at the 850HPa & 500HPa levels for steering/shear purposes with tropical lows.

  171. Pete of Perth

    Monday is going to be fun. Currently at -46.45, 142.55 on the way back to Hobart. Arrive Tuesday. Wave forecast.

  172. egg_

    Tightening the Post Tensioning in the deck, egg?

    Answered in the video upthread, fvckwit.
    There are specialist Bridge Engineers, which you are not, sock.

    What is the make of the original 1962 backup Genset still in situ in the Cahill Expressway ‘s Domain Tunnel?
    Google that one!

    The ANZAC Bridge cable lube?
    Crickets?

  173. Drink-Up Socrates

    Urb, we installed solar recently. Wiped out our annual bill entirely and the local electron company now pays us $3k pa for the excess we sell them.
    That’s some kind of deal Top Ender.
    We installed six years ago (QLD). Caught the end of Labor’s generous payments just before Campbell closed them down.
    Top of the line Dutch panels and inverter. Circa $8K.
    After 6 years of no bills we have a grand total of $1,200 in reserve. About $200pa. We are probably close to break-even, and will start to lose money when QLD’s electricity insanity gathers momentum.
    There is no choice in QLD, you have to sell to the grid and buy back.

  174. Snoopy

    What is the lubricant used on the cables of the ANZAC Bridge?
    Go!

    That’s easy. Minced kittens.

  175. egg_

    Pressure from the DoT to reopen the 8 lane Highway?
    Don’t bet against it, i say.

    Fkn genius – they must have some involvement in the calamity.

  176. cohenite

    Hey!
    Why would I want to own those parasites?

    Correct. We all do and we pay for the bludgers.

  177. cohenite

    I know it’s been discussed already but Britain banned this lady because she spoke out against islam. FFS look at her:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-defends-right-wing-canadian-activist-lauren-southern-who-was-barred-from-uk-a3790816.html

  178. Rae

    The ANZAC Bridge cable lube?

    The frolickinghole stole it all. For his oily shaft. That the nasty Twitter roach keeps mentioning.

  179. Mark A

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2664092, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:47 pm
    Are you on a list for a school reunion in Melbourne in July?

    facechook scroll

    If you have access to the full list yes, you can easily guess who, LOL, but I’m leaving for the next overseas stint on the 10th of May and returning on the 12th of Feb next year, so I miss a lot of happenings this year, both socially and family wise.

    Should have been away from early Feb and back in time but that’s life for you, something always comes up to screw you around.

    On top of that, we are shifting headquarters, either within Vienna or completely out of Austria. Options are Poland, Hungary or the Czech Rep. some chance of Russia but it’s too far away from our main clients.
    Fun and games galore.

    /facechook

  180. nemkat

    It’s a Post Tensioned deck, egg.
    No need for ”specialist bridge engineers”.
    Now, what was the crane supposed to be doing?
    You haven’t answered that one.

  181. nemkat

    Curse that frolinginghole and his oily shaft.

  182. H B Bear

    Graeoogs, maaaate, you haven’t been working on your zingers have you?

  183. Snoopy

    No need for ”specialist bridge engineers”.

    The collapse was faked? Just like the moon landing.

  184. egg_

    nemkat
    #2664119, posted on March 18, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    Socks trying to evade that there were no cables involved.
    Rods were being tensioned* – yes or no?

    The suspension cables were not yet attached, the bridge was nowhere near completion.

    *Was tension being added or released?

  185. nemkat

    What was the crane supposed to be doing, Snoopy?
    Any ideas?

  186. Pedro the Ignorant

    I see in the Oz that the RSL in Canberra has banned children from marching in the Anzac Day parade this year.

    I always thought that Anzac day was for returned servicemen and women, and I can’t recall ever seeing children marching in an Anzac Day parade except maybe at the tail end of some country town parades I have attended, i.e scouts and guides, or school groups.

    Would any of our military Cats here care to comment on a. why children march on Anzac Day, and b. whether this is acceptable to the returned veterans?

  187. egg_

    No need for ”specialist bridge engineers”.

    Until Google won’t save you.

  188. Rae

    The collapse was faked?

    Maybe not, but nothing can be certain. The initial point of failure looks to be right in front of the crane.

  189. egg_

    nemkat
    #2664124, posted on March 18, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Time to go over old P’s wobbly reminiscences?
    Happy to.

  190. nemkat

    Egg, what do you think is running through the sleeves inside the deck, that need to be tensioned?
    Jelly beans and hundreds & thousands?

  191. Tel

    egg_ #2664093,

    Yup, it was totally designed to have a tower supporting the bridge. What they had put up was only one side of the deck (the long span to the left of the tower in your video there), the steel cables in the deck were along the TOP of the deck which means it’s a cantilever design intended to spread the weight either side of that central pillar. With only one side completed and no tower it would be extremely fragile because the load on the deck is actually in reverse at that stage, turning it more into a truss bridge… but with only a single truss and the angles are unsuitable for any real weight, and the bottom of the deck would have gone into tension.

    It really needed extra support from underneath until they got the rest of it together. These guys had no idea about what they were doing.

  192. nemkat

    And, what was the crane there for?
    Be a devil, egg. Have a guess.

  193. egg_

    The initial point of failure looks to be right in front of the crane.

    That’s where the tensioning was taking place (and the region of the description of the cracking) – it’s a hydraulic tensioner and needs an energy source.

  194. Tel

    From Tel’s link at 4.48, the bridge hadn’t been completed, just the span across the Highway.

    Pressure from the DoT to reopen the 8 lane Highway?
    Don’t bet against it, i say.

    They could easily have re-opened some of the lanes while leaving a support in the middle somewhere. The partially completed bridge cannot offload weight properly so it is very fragile.

  195. zyconoclast

    Sunday 7: Cars Tesla should be worried about. The electric car maker should be looking over its shoulder

    Headline should read
    7 cars who do not need to worry about Tesla
    or
    The only car Tesla should be worried about is the Tesla 3

  196. egg_

    From the mech eng’s video above, the mobile hydraulic jack location was moved from the original design (drawing shown) likely due to the roadway barrier, evident in the first video, and the cracking/tensioning was taking place in the vicinity of where the hydraulic jack should have originally been.
    This is where pre/post tensioning debate lies – the rods should have been pretensioned for the jack lift (they may have been releasing tension from the original location reserved for the jack when the incident occurred).

    All speculation.

  197. egg_

    Egg, what do you think is running through the sleeves inside the deck, that need to be tensioned?
    Jelly beans and hundreds & thousands?

    Is a syringe the closest you’ve come to Engineering – and you’re not even licensed to drive one of them?

  198. OneWorldGovernment

    Mark A
    #2664118, posted on March 18, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2664092, posted on March 18, 2018 at 4:47 pm
    Are you on a list for a school reunion in Melbourne in July?

    facechook scroll

    See if you can get your office to Hungary.

    Poland would be okay but.

    I have the list but only quickly scanned it.

    Saddened to see some of the blokes that have passed away.

    I’m going to send a message to some folk that I know that they don’t have street nor email addresses for to advise them.

    I will be o/s as well.

    I’ll send an email to Sinclair giving you my address and will appreciate contact.

    Your time at that German Engineering School fascinates me.

    All the best.

  199. Gilas

    I don’t think anyone else has commented on this abomination:

    nemkat
    #2663321, posted on March 17, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    Syphilis is untreated Gonorrhea- this was known for about 250 years

    More garbage from our very own creamy sock.

    Syphilis is an STD caused by the spirochaetal bacterium T. Pallidum and can result in severe brain damage in its tertiary phase, Nietzsche was allegedly one of its most famous victims.

    Gonorrhea is another STD caused by the standard Gram +ve bacterium Neisseria gonorrhoeae, which is clinically similar to syphilis in the same way M Turdbull is similar to W Churchill.

  200. egg_

    What they had put up was only one side of the deck (the long span to the left of the tower in your video there)

    +1

    As the truss ‘uprights’ spacing is much closer – and a mirror image – on the other, shorter, side of the tower in the final pictures and animations, and the graphics dude guessed their geometry correctly, following the line of the suspension cables.

  201. EvilElvis

    being the principle structural member and all.

    That’s the problem alright, Calli. In a female dominant company there is no principle structural member at all.

  202. Tel

    This is where pre/post tensioning debate lies – the rods should have been pretensioned for the jack lift (they may have been releasing tension from the original location reserved for the jack when the incident occurred).

    Even that will only help a tiny bit.

    Point is that the rods were on the TOP of the main deck, which means they support excellent tension load provided the top of that deck is subject to tension forces. However, when you take a basic beam and drop it between two supports the BOTTOM of that beam goes into tension (and that bottom was pure concrete, no steel cables).

    The rods on top design only works once the other side of the bridge is in place and you have something to cantilever against. Just quickly sketch up the forces in the final design and you see what I mean.

    Whoever did this had very limited concept of how the bridge works.

  203. H B Bear

    This should be fun. Apparently Karl talks about the very MILFable Georgie Gardiner and perennial pants man Dickie Wilkins and he is already out apologising.

    Channel Nein will have to have Karl rescue some puppies again to get his Z score back up with the mouth breathers that watch breakfast television. Love watching luvvie hypocrites come unstuck.

  204. Tom

    Well done, Doomlord. Such a compelling site full of trolls. You must be so proud of your libertarian ideals in making the Cat uninhabitable.

  205. JC

    Anyone with some preconceived idea Germans are smart should read this. These idiots are adding more wind energy capacity to a system that already over produces more than the grid requires during times of windy weather.

    Just outright stupid shit.
    http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/for-now-germany-will-continue-its-energy-self-delusion

  206. Rae

    Smutster, you are truly pathetic today. Even worse that usual. If you were conversing with JC, you would be buying the 16 oz steak dinner.

  207. Tom

    Well done, Baldrick. Taking on scum-sucking trolls is not everyone’s cup of tea. Respect.

  208. Fat Tony

    Tel
    #2664147, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:00 pm
    Whoever did this had very limited concept of how the bridge works.

    Appears they didn’t have much of a concept of designing to suit construction methodology either.

  209. OneWorldGovernment

    Gilas
    #2664142, posted on March 18, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t think anyone else has commented on this abomination:

    Gilas

    You obviously missed his declaration that Gonorrhea was lack of eating meat, or some such crud comment.

  210. egg_

    Bring out old P sockboy, you know you want to.

  211. testpattern

    Blowback

    Coinciding with the ASEAN Summit here, yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the infamous Jabidah Massacre that started the Moro war in Mindanao. Marcos had ordered his military to clandestinely recruit train and infiltrate guerrillas into Sabah to create provocations that would invite a Malaysian over reaction and induce a general uprising. Manila would then declare Sabah to belong to the Phillips, a US ally, and annex it. Recruits rebelled and were massacred. In response special forces from Malaysia, a Brit ally, recruited and trained the first Moro fighters in Sabah and sent them back to fight in Mindanao.

    http://www.mindanews.com/mindaviews/2018/03/peacetalk-infamous-jabidah-massacre-50-years-back-search-justice/

  212. H B Bear

    And now for something completely different …

  213. egg_

    Fat Tony
    #2664158, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    The sock is ignorant that we have a few mech eng’s on board (every facet of engineering, I’m sure).
    There’s speculation that the bridge may have had embedded strain gauges – not sure of that.

  214. Rae

    Well done, Doomlord. Such a compelling site full of trolls. You must be so proud of your libertarian ideals in making the Cat uninhabitable.

    Ah, Tom. Always with the funnies. Today has provided easily some of the most animated and informative Sunday discussion on the Cat, the likes of which has not been seen for months. Shouldn’t you be in bed by now? You have to be up at 4.00 am to post links to someone else’s work.

  215. egg_

    Appears they didn’t have much of a concept of designing to suit construction methodology either.

    The nub of the problem.
    (NSW) RMS would be far more involved over here – do we have any private bridges spanning roadways?

  216. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    In the Australian:

    Tillerson’s final indignity
    Outgoing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson speaks at the State Department after President Trump fired Tillerson via Twitter earlier in day by Toby Harnden

    In the ultimate humiliation, axed US secretary of state Rex Tillerson learned about his sacking ‘while he was on the toilet”

    Is there no depth to which this appalling fellow will not stoop?

    Toby Harnden, that is, to fill some empty space with nothing of value.

  217. Gilas

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2664159, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    You obviously missed his declaration that Gonorrhea was lack of eating meat, or some such crud comment.

    Mea maxima culpa. Trawling through this otherwise fascinating thread does take time.

  218. OneWorldGovernment

    Mark A

    Have just sent email to Sinclair to pass on my address.

  219. Rae

    Appears they didn’t have much of a concept of designing to suit construction methodology either.

    The nub of the problem.
    (NSW) RMS would be far more involved over here – do we have any private bridges spanning roadways?

    Oh, a change of tack. Now you’re saying more government involvement and regulation was what caused it. Private enterprise construction of suspension bridges is shoddy and untrustworthy. That is getting really desperate.

  220. DrBeauGan

    The sock is ignorant that we have a few mech eng’s on board (every facet of engineering, I’m sure).

    True. We also have people expert in biomedicine, but that doesn’t stop nemklot from pontificating. That’s the second time he came out with the syphilis = gonorrhoea crap.and got corrected. He may or may not be a sock, but he’s certainly an ignorant fuckwit. And loves spreading his ignorance around.

  221. Baldrick

    Tom
    #2664150, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:03 pm
    Well done, Doomlord. Such a compelling site full of trolls. You must be so proud of your libertarian ideals in making the Cat uninhabitable.

    It’s a libertarian thingy Tom. Apparently it’s good for robust debate or some shite to infect the site with fake news.

  222. Baldrick

    Anyway time to exit. Too many sockies and oily shaft lubricated trolls.

  223. OneWorldGovernment

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #2664169, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    In the Australian:

    “Tillerson’s final indignity
    Outgoing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson speaks at the State Department after President Trump fired Tillerson via Twitter earlier in day by Toby Harnden

    In the ultimate humiliation, axed US secretary of state Rex Tillerson learned about his sacking ‘while he was on the toilet”

    Is there no depth to which this appalling fellow will not stoop?

    Toby Harnden, that is, to fill some empty space with nothing of value.

    Hey white shoe Mick.

    Why do you not read the proper news.

    It was Kelly that made what he thought was a light hearted aside to some ‘jisms’ that supposedly said that.

    But I am glad to see you expose yourself.

    I now know that our JC was right about you.

    You foul thing.

  224. calli

    I wonder why my link harmonics and bridges was imagined to be about the Florida footbridge and not to the Maccabiah Games collapse? It’s a mystery.

  225. DrBeauGan

    Baldrick
    #2664174, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    Tom
    #2664150, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:03 pm
    Well done, Doomlord. Such a compelling site full of trolls. You must be so proud of your libertarian ideals in making the Cat uninhabitable.

    It’s a libertarian thingy Tom. Apparently it’s good for robust debate or some shite to infect the site with fake news.

    I guess we have to get used to fake news, Baldrick. And figure out who is knowledgeable and who is a posturing fuckwit. It is irritating to have to, but it doesn’t take long.

  226. Top Ender

    Would any of our military Cats here care to comment on a. why children march on Anzac Day, and b. whether this is acceptable to the returned veterans?

    From what I’ve seen it is because they are wearing medals of a relative; ie: on the right hand side of their chest.

    Personally I think it’s not a good idea. It’s one of those things that will spread. Where does it stop?

  227. Rae

    That’s the second time he came out with the syphilis = gonorrhoea crap.and got corrected.

    Incorrect, Doc. The ‘syphilis-gonorrhea’ red herring was raised by Arky and followed up by Gilas. Not the commenter to whom you refer. Maybe they are out of their depth with the technicalities of suspension bridge construction.

  228. calli

    Humility is usually a good indicator, DrBeau.

  229. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From egg_ at 6:20 pm:

    “Fat Tony
    #2664158, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    The sock is ignorant that we have a few mech eng’s on board (every facet of engineering, I’m sure).
    There’s speculation that the bridge may have had embedded strain gauges – not sure of that.”

    I sat back to watch a couple of attempted short balls directed at you Egg_ , in the knowledge that you would knock up some easy runs, as you did.

    DrBeauGan’s comment just above reminded me that the bowler spent an inordinate time scratching furiously at his groin. 😉

  230. egg_

    I wonder why my link harmonics and bridges was imagined to be about the Florida footbridge and not to the Maccabiah Games collapse?

    The mech eng dude above explains a bit about tension/flex and it is a little related to SHM in structures.

  231. Nick

    Anyway time to exit. Too many sockies and oily shaft lubricated trolls.

    Don’t go yet, we’ve lunch with the girlfriends’, random thoughts of a spouse and all manner of self centred banality yet to come.

  232. egg_

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #2664182, posted on March 18, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    I know you’re from a Construction Management background and likely have been biting your lip with all of the speculation going on.
    Thanks to Tel for his input as we (Electronics Engineering) chaps have been trying to piece things together with what’s available in the meeja.
    My involvement with the RMS was the Electrical & Mechanical maintenance of the bridges and tunnels (I’ve been in most of the tunnels and over a lot of the SHB’s hidden infrastructure, our most secure site, unsurprisingly).

  233. Arky

    Incorrect, Doc. The ‘syphilis-gonorrhea’ red herring was raised by Arky and followed up by Gilas.

    ..
    The yast infection- syphhilis- gonorrhea- bridge collapse cycle is a well known phenomenon here in the sock drawer thanks.
    Those investigators need to look for evidence of a white pus discharge around the tensioning cables.

  234. OneWorldGovernment

    I didn’t mind the “Jason Wander” Orphan series of books by Robert Buettner.

    Not in the same class as Robert Heinlen’s “Starship Troopers” but not far off.

    My personal favourite is that series of SF stories where the kid destroys the bugs. Forget the name. They made a movie out of it.

  235. calli

    I just draw nice things Mick. I leave the hard, calculatingish stuff to others. 😃

  236. Arky

    We should be asking how it is that a bridge so young contracted syphilis in the first place.

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