Hangars pour hommes

The Women’s Collective decide that it is time for a woman to head a major French company and the film explains how they go about it. And then from Australia, Bettina Arndt on Men’s Sheds:

About the story, she writes:

Women are everywhere now. We’ve forced our way into all the workplaces, into the army’s fighting forces, into all men’s organisations, into the pubs. Everywhere you look there are women.

But there was one place that men were safe and that was in men’s sheds. Traditionally in Australia many men had sheds up in their backyard where they could retreat to do their own thing. It led to a Men’s Shed movement across Australia – over 1000 sheds now, particularly attracting older, retired men who come together and support each other. A vital mental health measure given that these older men are the group most at risk of suicide in the country.

But guess what? Women are pushing our way into the sheds too. There are sheds across the country coming under pressure to allow women members and amazingly some have caved in. I recently spent a few days talking to men in sheds for a YouTube video, finding out what’s going on here.

It turns out women are being allowed in the door due to a bunch of virtue-signalling men who willingly sell out other males in order to win brownie points from the ladies. They don’t believe in what men’s sheds are supposed to be all about – that special male companionship that comes from men doing things together, working on projects and enjoying banter and secret men’s talk. They don’t believe men are more likely to share their problems when with other men who get where they are coming from, who know what it’s like to face a broken marriage or prostate cancer.

There’s a good bloke up at Kur-ring-gai called Kevin Callinan who is chairman of the peak body representing men’s sheds, The Australian Men’s Sheds Association. He worked for seven years to set up his local shed but Kevin comes from a background in equity in the workplace. He believes in “inclusiveness” and hence calls his thriving shed simply “The Shed” and women are welcome.

Kevin is a man who doesn’t believe there’s anything special about male culture. “There is to a certain extent but it’s not the be all and end all. I would more prefer a broader mix of society.” When asked whether it changes male culture to include women he said. “It does change male culture – for the good.”

Yet you hear something very different if you talk to most blokes in the Men’s Sheds movement.

“What do you think of women in men’s sheds?” I asked a man from the Kincumber Shed, on the NSW Central Coast. “Ugly!” was his response.

“If women ever came into this shed I would be out the door,” said another.

Many believe the men allowing women into their sheds for cosy “inclusive” little craft sessions are selling out other men – and they are part of a far bigger problem.

There are many men in leadership positions see it in their interests to brown-nose to the ladies rather than stick up for men. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull lies about women’s role in family violence blaming the whole problem on men. Men running corporations, our bureaucracies are falling over themselves to institute policies favouring women. Our laws are tilted to favour women victims. The men running our universities promote a fake rape crisis and ignore the increasingly failure rates for male students. And so it goes on.

Men involved in the Men’s Shed movement need to take action to protect these male sanctuaries that enrich the spirit and even save the lives of some men. Come on men – grow a pair and stand up for men!

UPDATE: The article and the video are now posted on the website of The Australian where you can see the comments that have been posted. The top eleven comments from the top downwards:

Didn’t see any women at the caravan dump point emptying their van toilet waste. No fight for equality there.

Many men have spent their whole lives being the breadwinner of the family with support from their wives, now along come all these screaming shrews telling them they have no right to spend time on their own away from women, being told they have no self worth of their own without the women in their lives, they have no value except to continue to allow women to interfere in their own personal space, and who is driving this? not the women they love and have worked with their entire life, no, they have these screaming, know nothing, semi educated social justice warriors who have almost zero life experience trying to tell these hard working men how to live their lives. And now they also have to put up with traitors in their own ranks bending over and allowing it to happen, pathetic.

The world used to be run by alpha males. Sadly now, the alfalfa males have sold out to the females in the hope that they may smile on them instead. The result is that feelings have usurped logic in our decision making. How else did we end up with windmills for power?

I will know we have reached full inclusiveness when I can join a Fernwood Gym.

We need more women like you Bettina. Men have lost their voice because they allow leadership roles to be taken over by cringing PC zealots, who back in the day would have been put in their place or on their backside.

Wasn’t the whole idea of this Men’s Shed movement that men needed a place where they could get together and share the challenges of later life, something badly missing from society today? To admit women would totally defeat the object, which would then be what exactly? This seems to buy into the current fashionable theory that there are no fundamental differences between men and women, which is thought to be totally wrong out in the real world, and rather supported by biology. But, let them go ahead and test the inclusive theory by seeing how many men continue to use these facilities when their very purpose and very nature is changed.

We now have selective equality where men are forced to be inclusive but women can be selective about involving men in their organisations (e.g. Fernwood Gyms)! What a farce! Men need to stand up for themselves and their segregation.

Kevin Cullinan is misguided.  I hope the men in his area whose needs are not being met by “The Shed” evventually set up their own Men’s Shed to get back to the original idea of mutual support and sharing men’s culture.

The issue really doesn’t seem to be women demanding to be given “equal access” to the exclusive men’s club of the work-shed, but male snags — what Bettina aptly calls virtue-signallers, brown-nosers, and most damningly of all, Turnbull-types (please no!) — who paternalistically want to drag women into the sheds, willing or not, in order to posture as PC pious. However, this is not a new or fringe phenomenon. From the word go the feminists have owed their ascent to dictatorial ascendancy not to ordinary, natural women, whom they loathe and who despise them, but to urinal-rejecting fail-males of the species Bettina is spotlighting.

About 25 years ago, being community-minded, I joined Apex which was, at that time, a service club for males aged between 18 and 40. And it was terrific. The fellowship with a bunch of good mates was great and we enjoyed raising funds for service projects, fixing up the homes and yards of elderly widows, maintaining our “Apex park” – all that sort of thing. My wife understood my desire to help the community and tolerated my absence from the family home – and our six kids, whom she stayed home looking after. But I can tell you this – my wife would have flat-out refused to go along with Apex – had it been mixed gender. She would have refused to put up with me taking time out of the family to mix socially elsewhere in a group that included women, while she stayed home with the kids. And rightly so – I agree with her completely. Apex is now disappearing and long ago both raised the retiring age and allowed women to join as well. There is no way I could join Apex today. What was a friendly all-male environment has been compromised and twisted into something completely different.

Nice Bettina, you are one in a million.

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65 Responses to Hangars pour hommes

  1. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A group of women with whom I do various forms of dancing gather together afterwards for coffee and a girl’s giggle. High on endorphins we chat and shriek and laugh our heads off. No man would ever come near for fear of extreme discomfort. Nor are any men in our dance group. One man came once and slunk away after that never to return.

    Men need similar groups all of their own. Men socialize differently. They enjoy doing different things from women. If retired women are lonely they can form their own meet-up groups around tatting or whatever it is they do. If it’s metalwork, then form a women’s metalwork group bringing feminine sensitivity to welding. Book club groups seem popular for women. A little bit of gender separation is a very good thing. We see the world differently and talk about it differently, ffs.

    Resist, you old guys. Maintain your ways. Defend your culture. Keep your habits, bad or not.

  2. Stimpson J. Cat

    The only women in Men’s Sheds should be strippers.
    Everyone knows this.

  3. dopey

    As if a woman could build a shed in the first place.

  4. Singleton Engineer

    As a retired male, I recently had occasion to visit the engineering/manual arts section of the local high school.

    The work being done by the girls was several steps upmarket from that being done by the boys. I was amazed and somewhat shaken.

    So, what about the Mens’ Sheds? Or, simply, The Shed? Be careful, you who stereotype the ladies. There’s an even chance that you will find your skills challenged by those of the newcomers.

    By the way, thanks for the delightful, tongue-in-cheek article, Steve Kates.

  5. RobK

    Would save investment in a coffee machine.

  6. C.L.

    ‘Men’s sheds’ are just the right place for women.

  7. Stimpson J. Cat

    The only reason for a woman to be in a Men’s Shed is if they are transgender.

  8. Gab

    Women activists demanding they be allowed to infiltrate Men’s Sheds but only a few years ago they were applauded by these same women.

    Talk about penis envy!

  9. The final victory for women; destroy the last refuge where men in their twilight years can just be themselves. And the nail in the coffin will be sexual harassment claims towards men in their shed and thus the need to close these abominations. When all of this is over, women will be asking what happened to all the men.

    It’s one of the reasons why a group of us have been going on our ‘boys’ trips to the High Country for the last 13 years. One of our group started to complain about their partner not being able to come along. He no longer comes on our trips.

  10. stackja

    The name is Men’s Sheds. Why the discussion? Wo/men doesn’t have the same ring. Could that be woe men?

  11. Mother Lode

    Women are everywhere now. We’ve forced our way into all the workplaces, into the army’s fighting forces, into all men’s organisations, into the pubs.

    No.

    They have overwhelmingly been permitted with the consent of men.

    In most cases the places they have forced their way into, previously the preserve of men. They do not possess some newly discovered power against which men have been powerless. No grand gift for strategy, no irresistible talent that men found they cannot do without.

    Women got the vote when men agreed they should have it – but they aren’t better voters. The universities? Well there are a lot of women there, but disproportionately in the less demanding, softer, subjects which require less rigour and discipline. In the legal system and the on the bench? Well, if they insist these were old boys clubs then it is the boys who let them in. Bureaucracy? Men instituted quotas that women have benefited from.

    It touches on the point Jordan Peterson made regarding the history of men and women and their contrasting roles – they did not exist in conflict, but in cooperation. I had previously come across the same point in AJP Taylor’s introduction to the Communist Manifesto. Marx saw conflict between classes (which would lead to one class defeating the other (which is not what the original dialectic of Hegel’s would have). The fact was that workers and capitalists cooperated. Workers cooperated with their capitalists against other workers.

    Historical success is one of cooperation, not conflict. Even the conflicts are achieved by cooperation.

    But lefties love to cast the whole world as conflict where they are fighting on the side of good, because their first impulse is always to hit, kick, to vent their rage, to indulge in what they think is the hero’s license – to punish others and think themselves better than others. It is a childish form of heroism from the cartoons and comics of their childhood – after which they never grew up any further.

  12. 132andBush

    As a retired male, I recently had occasion to visit the engineering/manual arts section of the local high school.

    The work being done by the girls was several steps upmarket from that being done by the boys. I was amazed and somewhat shaken.

    So, what about the Mens’ Sheds? Or, simply, The Shed? Be careful, you who stereotype the ladies. There’s an even chance that you will find your skills challenged by those of the newcomers.

    Complete opposite of our school. Two girls with 18 boys in woodwork and none in metal, yes the two girls want to be there but so do all the boys. It’s not a stereotype or stereotyping (not sure if you’re trolling or not), boys and girls are interested in doing different things.
    Any self respecting man wants to get away and be with other blokes for a while and if a mens shed is where they go so be it. Any woman wanting to elbow in on that is not a good woman.

  13. 132andBush

    BTW
    Quality of work is basically the same between the sexes.

  14. Mother Lode

    Singleton Engineer,

    The point isn’t who is better at fabrication, but the way men are systematically denied any space of their own.

    There are women only venues such as gyms, but the existence of a ‘men’ space triggers what can be best described as an immunological response – mobilising antibodies to destroy it.

  15. duncanm

    Singleton Engineer – do you have issues getting jokes often, too?

    Way to miss the point.

  16. duncanm

    Mother Lode

    They do not possess some newly discovered power against which men have been powerless. No grand gift for strategy, no irresistible talent that men found they cannot do without.

    nope – its the same lure they’ve had since Adam and Eve which some Men cannot resist for 5 minutes of their lives.

  17. They do not possess some newly discovered power against which men have been powerless.

    Actually they do, it’s called the law. The reason why women have been able to access so many ‘men only’ preserves is because of anti-discrimination laws (except when it applies to women only facilities).

    But even if there is not a law forcing men to accept women into these preserves, there are women that start endless protest movements against the ‘patriarchy’ and create a social stigma that eventually makes it impossible for these preserves to function as they did.

  18. Mother Lode

    Actually they do, it’s called the law.

    It is not their power – it is something made for them.

    And it is important to remember that it is not even all women. In fact, most women I know think the Men’s Shed thing is fine. They have no problem with guys having a guy ‘space’. They quite commonsensically realise that men might want ‘guy’ space in exactly the same way they have things they want to be just women.

    It is not a major mental achievement to appreciate this.

    But there is a subclass of women (and beta-males) who will use the law to try to exorcise the demons of jealousy and inadequacy, and outright hate, that plague them endlessly. It takes courage to confront your own problems – much easier to lie to yourself that it is not your problem.

  19. I know a female who would be an asset to any mens shed group. My nickname for her is “jackhammer lady”. Yes, she has got one (that I am no longer capable of lifting) and knows how to use it. She welds steel framing. Not so unusual maybe, but 4m above ground level? Also has a part-share in an in-shore drilling rig, so the descaling of 18m drilling rig legs is part of her repertoire. Anything fixable, she can fix it. Also capable of appropriate responses to half-wit male comments such as appear above.

  20. Spring is near

    …and in other news, a lady has set up a womans own ride service to compete against Uber.

    Equality now…when it suits!

  21. It is not their power – it is something made for them.

    It doesn’t matter where the power comes from, if it’s used, it’s effectively a power that cannot be resisted.

    And it is important to remember that it is not even all women. In fact, most women I know think the Men’s Shed thing is fine.

    Of course most women don’t have an issue with men only sheds, or anything men only, but it’s the fact that there are women who make it a mission in their life to destroy all such things that’s the issue. And these women seem to get the backing of other organisations, including government (or ministers therein – such as the Greens).

  22. Mother Lode

    It doesn’t matter where the power comes from,

    Actually, the point is that it can be taken away. Special privileged status can be handed to whatever group is subsequently settled on.

    My original point was that do not possess something which makes them indispensable.

  23. cynical1

    Real men have their own shed.

    Some of these old boys wanting the women in these communal classrooms probably fancy a bit of granny action.

  24. Dr Fred Lenin

    This is revenge for insisting transgenderites are allowed into women’s toilets ,tit fir tat ,. sorry that phrase has connotations don’t it . All this crap is part of the u.n.communists plan to destroy western civilisation to achieve power . Still is nothing a bit of groping ,suggestive remarks and willie flashing won’t sort out ,there is always an answer to the stupid childish lefts crazy ideas ,Go for ut Men !
    Just think some real woman went through nine months of discomfort and pain to bring these useless twats into the world. What a bitter disappointment they must be .

  25. duncanm

    And it is important to remember that it is not even all women. In fact, most women I know think the Men’s Shed thing is fine.

    The majority is irrelevantBrigitte Gabriel

  26. duncanm

    .. and this is why we can’t have nice posters in workshops any more.

  27. Old Irrelevant me

    If I remember it correctly after nine months a boy child is born and is order out of chaos. He is revered Idolised. Let em in Leave em out, if you don’t know your space then others will invade it. Community is both and the mens shed is gender specific. Perhaps the sheds should be renamed. Perhaps the men should elect at least one of their blokes to do a barista course. Elect another to learn to bake Lamingtons. All bases covered then.

  28. calli

    Singleton Engineer, I’m probably the most likely female candidate at the Cat to want to push my way into the Men’s Shed. They do all the stuff that I like.

    But it’s a MEN’s activity, for men. It is valuable for men. They can be blokey without a dopey broad like me listening in on their conversations, without fear of me bristling with indignation at their blokeyness. It isn’t about skill, it’s about fellowship.

    So I’m off now to an exclusively female sewing group. Which is a lot of fun too.

  29. H B Bear

    Nothing annoys wymyns more than to think that somewhere there are men are enjoying themselves without them.

  30. Nothing annoys wymyns more than to think that somewhere there are men enjoying themselves.

    Fixed!

  31. bollux

    “Martin Clark…I know a female who would be an asset to any mens shed group. ” Mens sheds are not set up to teach men to weld 4 metres above ground or as a primer to owning a drilling rig.
    So your point is?
    The question is, is she a man or not? And when would her femininity come to the fore? During a joke, during a grope, during any anti female remark? Separate toilets, because they don’t like pee on the seats, tampon machines, a vanity mirror even. You should grow a pair Martin, and then you would know what it’s like, and then you wouldn’t put up such an “inclusive” argument.

  32. Martin Clark…I know a female who would be an asset to any mens shed group. ”

    I think our universities simply breed this ideology nowadays: http://tropicdesign.net.au/about.html

  33. Helen

    Let the bloke have their man cave. If the ladies want a craft centre, build their own, and ask the blokes to come over and show them how to do things, now and then.

    Then they could have a building war, where their stuff is displayed and judged, or something. Rivalries are great, and team building.

    There could even be a tv serial in it.

  34. Atoms for Peace

    No mens’ only business for white fellas..

  35. areff

    What happened immediately upon women gaining the vote in the US?

    Prohibition.

    Al Capone’s heirs have been thanking them ever since.

    I happen to be very fond of women and would rub against no other, but this from above is dead right:

    It’s one of the reasons why a group of us have been going on our ‘boys’ trips to the High Country for the last 13 years. One of our group started to complain about their partner not being able to come along. He no longer comes on our trips.

    Good move.

    With one notable exception, none of the women who have shared my tent in the High Country actually enjoyed the experience. Indeed, one was grossly disappointed I didn’t have a broom in the camping gear as “the area around the fire where we’ll be eating needs sweeping.”

    That, and from another: “Look the parks people have built a fireplace. This must be where we have to camp.”

    I strongly suspect “the Parks people” are all women these days or identify as such. That’s why it’s much better to carry a chainsaw than a broom, for those beaut camping spots where they’ve dropped a log across the track to foil access.

    I’m thinking here of the Jamieson’s headwaters, right underneath The Bluff.

  36. mh

    Justin Trudeau banned the Men’s Shed movement in Canada.

  37. Of course Kevin Callinan was in HR and into “equity” shit. A word of advice for the Mens Shed movement – ditch this idiot before he ruins what may well be the last bastion of men being men, and the last refuge for those men who have no other place to enjoy the company and camaraderie of their mates. FFS, can we please leave something for the men in our lives to enjoy – for and by themselves?

    (Signed, The wife of a bloke who needs a mens shed!)

  38. egg_

    As a retired male, I recently had occasion to visit the engineering/manual arts section of the local high school.

    The work being done by the girls was several steps upmarket from that being done by the boys. I was amazed and somewhat shaken.

    “Anecdotes are not evidence.”

  39. areff

    My late dad was a habitue of the Altona Men’s Shed, and I reckon it kept the ailing old bugger alive for an extra five years. That and probus. He’d vanish with his soldering iron or wotnot and Mum was glad to be rid of him for the day. And when something needed doing in the house which required more than one set of hands , someone from the shed would be there to hold the ladder.

    If they open the Shed’s to XXers, than I demand that Spotlight — Bunnings for shielas — begin carrying power tools and welding rods. It’s only fair.

  40. egg_

    But there is a subclass of women (and beta-males) who will use the law to try to exorcise the demons of jealousy and inadequacy, and outright hate, that plague them endlessly. It takes courage to confront your own problems – much easier to lie to yourself that it is not your problem.

    Men tend to innovate on the job – something women appear to be bereft of and just plod along with the herd, almost without exception IME (viz Areff’s comments about camp site conventionality).

    IIRC an Aussie female Engineer came up with the foot operated ‘hand brake’ in the LH Torana, which has resurfaced in a few vehicles since – an awkward abomination.
    They don’t have the arm strength to pull on a hand brake?

  41. Justin Trudeau banned the Men’s Shed movement in Canada.

    That would hardly be surprising noting that he’s the epitome a Soy Boy.

  42. duncanm

    mh
    #2670490, posted on March 26, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    Justin Trudeau banned the Men’s Shed movement in Canada.

    do you like making shit up?

    http://menssheds.ca/

  43. areff

    an Aussie female Engineer came up with the foot operated ‘hand brake’ in the LH Torana, which has resurfaced in a few vehicles since – an awkward abomination.

    Everyone knows handbrakes belong where the Datsun 1600 placed them — jutting out from under the dash and spring loaded so it snapped off with a twist.

    The foot brake was specifically conceived to ruin the masculine fun of handbrake turns.

  44. egg_

    The foot brake was specifically conceived to ruin the masculine fun of handbrake turns.

    The fairer sex are excellent for ultra class mine haul trucks as they do need gentle care with the strain they’re under – modern day elephants.

  45. the sting

    Check out ” Leadership is male ” by Dr. David Pauson on Youtube .

  46. Tintarella di Luna

    (Signed, The(Signed, The wife of a bloke who needs a mens shed!)!)

    I agree with the wife of a bloke who needs a men’s shed. When we have dinner with six of us which is a good number for seating arrangements which enables conversation on topics we all enjoy – we talk about grandchildren and how they’re progressing and the guys talk about other things. Lovely evening spent with lovely people.

  47. 132andBush


    If they open the Shed’s to XXers, than I demand that Spotlight — Bunnings for shielas — begin carrying power tools and welding rods. It’s only fair.

    Colour coordinated tools and toolboxes!

  48. 132andBush

    And the welding rods can be scented.
    I look forward to the time I am gluing two bits of metal together with a 4mm 16TC that smells like coconut and lime .

  49. areff

    .. and your welding glasses pay homage to Jackie Kennedy’s famous sunglasses

  50. Tintarella di Luna

    Colour coordinated tools and toolboxes!

    On the gun control segment last night on 60 Minutes it showed there is the possibility for women to have their guns spray painted in pastel colours to match their nails

  51. Chris

    Women are urgently needed to fill the ranks to 50% of gun clubs, car marque clubs, windsurfing and kitesurfing participation, homebuilding aircraft, volunteer firefighting, microprocessor programming workshops and ham radio on-air gatherings.

    Pay your $ many zeroes in time, learning, and kit like everyone else, and most welcome!

    Of course, quilting clubs, church flower arranging groups, P&C canteen rosters, book clubs, weekday morning coffee circles, ballet and jazz schools, casting for actors roles and all tertiary admissions must be 100% nondiscriminatory in results, and their highest earning positions 50% male – or their social license withdrawn.

  52. Muddy

    Martin Clark.
    I’m not sure that too many here – with the exception of the odd tongue-in-cheek comment – would disagree that there are some women who are more than capable in the hands-on or manual labour departments. The point is that ‘inclusion’ is more often than not simply a cover for the breaking down of male identity and confidence.

  53. And it is important to remember that it is not even all women. In fact, most women I know think the Men’s Shed thing is fine.

    Let the bloke have their man cave.

    These two quotes go to the heart of the issue – the predominance of women treating men like they are overgrown children. If the wymens think the men’s shed stuff is fine then it is allowed. It is insidious.

    In fact the entire men’s shed movement is a reflection of this behavioral pattern. Men are only allowed to have something if it is in some hot tin can located at the bottom of some dusty paddock. If the wyemsn meet up for their weekly knitting summit then that will be held in the front parlor.

    If men are going to regain the use of their balls then enough of this men’s shed business. Resurrect the noble tradition of the study and make sure that it is located in the very best room of the house.

    And of course there will be no asking for permission, it will simply be done. Too hard? Then you have your answer.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Resurrect the noble tradition of the study and make sure that it is located in the very best room of the house.

    I’ve always had my own study, and library, and the Memsahib has her own boudoir. Worked for over thirty years.

  55. Stimpson J. Cat

    The only reason women want to get inside a Men’s Shed is so that men can teach them how to break a glass ceiling.

  56. These two quotes go to the heart of the issue – the predominance of women treating men like they are overgrown children. If the wymens think the men’s shed stuff is fine then it is allowed. It is insidious.

    I think you’re misunderstanding the situation, Adam. We women who think it’s a great thing see it as such because it’s actually something they enjoy – and we do in fact want the men in our lives to be genuinely happy.

    My esteemed spouse already has his study into which I don’t venture, but we sadly lack a shed. There’s a workbench etc in the garage, but it’s not the same as a Mens Shed where he can go and spend time with other blokes, being blokes and doing blokey things (or nothing at all if preferred), free from the intrusion of women. There’s also the camaraderie that’s only available to a bunch of blokes.

    It’s not condescending in any way, it’s an honest recognition that blokes need time and space to be blokes, and this is a way they can do it in the over-regulated and urbanised world of today. If you see the Mens Shed thing as some kind of sop that women “allow” men to have, you couldn’t be further from the truth. I no more “allow” my husband to do anything any more than he “allows” me to. It doesn’t work like that. Maybe you’ve “allowed” yourself to become a bit under the thumb, and resent those who aren’t?

  57. Entropy

    I can understand someone having a shed out the back, but this Mens’ Shed Movement is positively gay.

  58. calli

    If they open the Shed’s to XXers, than I demand that Spotlight — Bunnings for shielas — begin carrying power tools and welding rods. It’s only fair.

    Excellent. A one stop shop. Chortle.

  59. Helen

    I got a great toolbox for Christmas, I love it, I also have a good few power tools and am a bit handy with them, used to be pretty good with an axe, have dug endless post holes (proper ones with a post hole shovel and crowbar) and in my prime could knock in 400 165 cm pickets with a manual driver in a day, across hard country. (I would call hard country 30+ taps per picket) Yes 12,000 reps. I can handle wild cattle but appreciate quiet cattle, had a good seat on a horse, fixed all my own tyres, did all my own work on my catcher, just your average farmers wife, really, never learned to weld, though, that was a boys job, apparently. 🙂

    Having said all that I still reckon blokes need their own space and I am easily distracted by pink tools and things. It is in the genes. Sometimes necessity just means you have to learn and do different things.

    Now areff, a word of advice. If you are choosing your feme camping partners for some kind of romatic reason, dont be suprised when that is all they are capable of. You have to ask your self, is this trip about pussy or no pussy? When you have answered your question, plan accordingly. If there is no pussy, then dont invite the ones who will be painful companions! Simples.

  60. egg_

    .You have to ask your self, is this trip about pussy or no pussy?

    Definitely the case with the broom maid IMHO! LMFAO

    Also the key issue with wymminses in men’s sheds, I suspect – trouble at Mill.

  61. RobK

    How does that saying go?”… it was a woman that drove me to drink and I’ve never really got around to thanking her.”

  62. Clam Chowdah

    As a retired male, I recently had occasion to visit the engineering/manual arts section of the local high school.

    The work being done by the girls was several steps upmarket from that being done by the boys. I was amazed and somewhat shaken.

    So, what about the Mens’ Sheds? Or, simply, The Shed? Be careful, you who stereotype the ladies. There’s an even chance that you will find your skills challenged by those of the newcomers.

    Point. Missed.

  63. Crossie

    Some time back I went to a football game with my husband and his friends. Pretty soon I figured out that I was cramping their style. Politely declined subsequent invitations.

  64. Slayer of Memes

    IIRC an Aussie female Engineer came up with the foot operated ‘hand brake’ in the LH Torana, which has resurfaced in a few vehicles since – an awkward abomination.
    They don’t have the arm strength to pull on a hand brake?

    Just want it noted that most of those foot-operated ‘hand-brakes’ are standard in the so-called ‘Toorak Tractor’ SUVs that are designed for, and cater to, the ‘Yummy Mummy’ market….

    You know the ones. Always dressed in their activewear, aggressively jostling for the prime viewing (or is that ‘being viewed’) position in the schoolyard at pick-up time… while their car is parked for 15-20 minutes in the 2 minute ‘kiss-and-go’ zone (or even double-parked beside same, blocking the road for normal through-traffic)… and woe betide any mere male who might dare to point out the inconsiderate behaviour…

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