Some people have no idea when they’re well off

On the one hand…

Saudi Arabia opens airspace to Israel for first time…

Jewish candidate for Muslim party breaks barriers in Tunisia…

Not to mention:

KOREAS PREPARE FOR MOON-KIM SUMMIT:

Negotiators for North and South agreed Saturday on a plan to meet again Thursday inside the Demilitarized Zone — a buffer area separating the two countries — to continue refining the agenda for next month’s historic, top-level summit between their respective leaders. [[President Moon Jae-in of South Korea and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un]

MORE:

The likelihood of any Kim-Trump summit remains unknown, as does the agenda, and the North hasn’t publicly acknowledged its invitation. But some preliminary talks appear to have occurred in recent days as North Korean diplomats traveled to Finland and Sweden for talks. The latter is an occasional intermediary for matters involving the North and the United States.

Here’s the diplomatic background, including the Trump Administration’s “maximum pressure” timeline.

But on the other hand…

Stormy Daniels’ lawyer posts photo of mystery disc in safe, teasing a ‘picture’…

Ex-PLAYBOY model apologizes to first lady for 10-month affair she claims she had with Trump…

If that’s all they’ve got, they’ve got nothing except among political idiots, of which there is no shortage. And for good measure, it wasn’t “Trump’s budget” that went through Congress, it was the combined efforts of those two renowned fiscal conservatives, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

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36 Responses to Some people have no idea when they’re well off

  1. stackja

    Never Trump don’t believe any of this.

  2. BorisG

    US-Korea summit is a much worse blunder by Trump than all his sex scandals combined. Meeting the ‘leader of the free world’ is an ultimate price to Kim for his nuclear threats.

  3. BorisG

    warming of Saudi-Israeli relations is thanks to Iran threats and Obama’s Iran deal, and has nothing to do with Trump (started in the last year of Obama through shared opposition to Iran and Obama).

  4. RobK

    US citizens, whilst being caught in a two party system that outwardly appears very polarized, are also pretty nationalistic. Perhaps less now than some decades ago but I think the capacity to be so is still there. Slowly those of the center politics will fall in behind Trump as he continues to make headway. The swamp is needing some time to realize they are being drained. Side dressings of fantasy affairs will keep the gossip columns busy but I doubt they will connect to the extent of impeachment (where’s the alledged crime). The elections will be interesting.

  5. RobK

    Hi Boris,
    Meeting the ‘leader of the free world’ is an ultimate price to Kim for his nuclear threats.
    If it was a meeting where the US was ill prepared, I’d agree with you. If NK was not likely to be able to deliver a viable nuke soon, I’d agree with you. However, given that China and to some extent Russia have been prepped that the show could be on, the talk about a talk is the proper way to show NK that it is a serious business.

  6. RobK

    Boris,
    “warming of Saudi-Israeli relations is thanks to Iran threats and Obama’s Iran deal, and has nothing to do with Trump” 

    I agree Obama’s deal started things leaning that way but I think it’s a bit too strong to say it has nothing to do with Trump. I say that because, again, Trump has shown to be decisive with the embassy in Israel and the raid in Syria earlier. He has indicated his displeasure with the previous administration on the Iran deal. There have been high level visits to both Israel and Egypt. Trump is showing a pattern by having regional powers being encouraged to do more influencing. To some extent I think this is also part of what we are seeing.

  7. BorisG

    Slowly those of the center politics will fall in behind Trump as he continues to make headway.

    I envy your optimism. Trump is an erratic and unhinged bully who has no courage to tell his secretary of state that he is being fired. His foreign policy steps are hit and miss, and he has no coherent strategy to speak of (especially in foreign policy). His main positives are that he challenges the PC consensus but it is erratic and confusing. I do not care about his sex scandals but his lies will catch up with him one day.

    Trump runs the government like a mix of Trump University and Apprentice.

    Only last week the WH said rumours of McMaster departure are fake news.

  8. RobK

    Boris,
    I agree I’m being optimistic on this.
    Only last week the WH said rumours of McMaster departure are fake news.

    McMaster was sacked amongst continual leaking. Could there be a connection?
    Some would argue Trumps strength is in part not being too predictable.

  9. Tom

    US-Korea summit is a much worse blunder by Trump than all his sex scandals combined.

    warming of Saudi-Israeli relations is thanks to Iran threats and Obama’s Iran deal, and has nothing to do with Trump …

    Without the irregular transmissions from Planet Boris, the Cat wouldn’t hear what really, really stupid people “think” — although it could also be argued that amoeba “think”.

    No doubt 2018 will be a blissful swim in your immutable pre-conceptions, Boris, as Trump sets about cleaning up eight years of Obama’s isolationist foreign policy catastrophes that only a poorly educated communist dunce could have produced.

    On the bright side, Obama was such a disaster he created Trump and, by the end of 2018, the damage wrought by the Obama presidency will have been all but erased from American history.

  10. I wonder if you were able to dig deeper, you’d find Stormy Soros behind all of this?

  11. RobK

    The press puts forward a view that Trumps hiring manner is unstable and reminiscent of the Apprentice.
    I posit that Trumps hiring is being used as signals in negotiations. E.g. the most recent change in advisors to one known to be hawkish on NK leaves NK in no doubt of Trumps thinking. Replacing Tillison also points to this.
    The press mock Trumps “my button is bigger than yours and it works” comment but they fail to realize the button has been NKs obsession and Trump is speaking the plain truth.

  12. Indolent

    I wonder if you were able to dig deeper, you’d find Stormy Soros behind all of this?

    I would say undoubtedly. The “March for our Lives” fascists are the new Black Lives Matter. Apparently Acorn was mentioned in the mess of a spending bill. That one would be the precursor of both of these. They are all the same – jackbooted black shirts. Only the names change.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    warming of Saudi-Israeli relations is thanks to Iran threats and Obama’s Iran deal, and has nothing to do with Trump

    That’s funny.
    Why didn’t Barry get a sword dance?

  14. Iampeter

    But on the other hand…
    He is going to meet with Kim, which is going to be the greatest foreign policy blunder in living memory.
    He is a puppet of Putin in a very real way the incompetent media isn’t reporting (he congratulated him on his rigged election win and took days to condemn the British poisoning). He likes totalitarian “strong men”.
    He is implementing far left anti-trade and anti-immigrant regulations
    He is passing far left, disastrous spending bills
    He still hasn’t filled many positions which have Democrat appointees and all up his administration is more incompetent and more left wing than the Obama administration.

    Basically there is no “on the other hand”. There is no longer any way to support this disastrous, big government and left wing administration if you are intellectually honest.

    At least if Hillary was in office Republicans would’ve provided some token opposition.

  15. Tel

    warming of Saudi-Israeli relations is thanks to Iran threats and Obama’s Iran deal, and has nothing to do with Trump

    This Iran “deal” (fake treaty) was two years ago, and you really have no idea what might have anything to do with Trump. Israel and KSA have had a common enemy in Iran for decades. It wasn’t Iran who threatened a blockade of Qatar, but now Qatar are forced to be friendly towards Iran because they had no other option. I think you just start with the answer you want and work backwards from there.

  16. tgs

    BorisG is 100% right in this thread, imo.

  17. BorisG
    #2669402, posted on March 25, 2018 at 3:51 am

    Slowly those of the center politics will fall in behind Trump as he continues to make headway.

    I envy your optimism. Trump is an erratic and unhinged bully who has no courage to tell his secretary of state that he is being fired.

    Chief of Staff Kelly notified Tillerson of his firing by phone when Tillerson was in Africa. You have no idea what prompted the firing there and then, yet you posit that it was a bad move.
    Hubris much?

    His foreign policy steps are hit and miss, and he has no coherent strategy to speak of (especially in foreign policy).

    BorisG is saying he is so smart, so wise (at the level of Global leadership don’t you know) that if he can’t understand what Trump is doing in an area where secrecy and quiet diplomacy is a must, then it must be that Trump is the incoherent one.
    FMD more hubris.

    His main positives are that he challenges the PC consensus but it is erratic and confusing.

    Again, if BorisG, the super wise genius finds something confusing, then it can’t be he himself who is confused (super genius remember) it’s Trump and his actions.
    Hubris level critical.

    I do not care about his sex scandals but his lies will catch up with him one day.

    Super wise genius BorisG knows exactly what are lies and what are truths, he reads news reports and watches TV you see.
    Hubris level super nova.

    Trump runs the government like a mix of Trump University and Apprentice.

    BorisG has never attended Trump Uni, but he has seen news reports by CNN and MSNBC so BorisG knows all about how Trump ran the Uni.
    According to BorisG, because there are firings at the Trump WH, and Trump fired people on his TV show The Apprentice, ergo Trump runs the WH just like The Apprentice.
    Super level genius confirmed.

    Only last week the WH said rumours of McMaster departure are fake news.

    Because politicians never ever hold back on disclosing their intentions. There can’t possibly be any reason at all why that info needed to be held back because BorisG couldn’t think of one, so there can’t have been one. Ergo BorisG is the Solomon of our times.

    All bend a knee and bow to the super wisdom of BorisG.

  18. Boris

    Chief of Staff Kelly notified Tillerson of his firing by phone when Tillerson was in Africa.

    That’s your idea of proper firing of your top official? Given that tillerson was dumped not for nay misconduct but for some diversion of views, a proper way would be for president himself (not chief of staff) to meet with him face to face or notify him well in advance to allow him to resign.

    The latter option (used e.g. for McMaster ) can work even if their relationship deteriorated so much that it precluded the first option. But honour is not Trumps thing.

  19. Boris

    Because politicians never ever hold back on disclosing their intentions.

    You have a point here but when it is happening all of the time…

  20. Boris

    I think you just start with the answer you want and work backwards from there.

    Warming of relations between Israel and KSU has nothing to do with Trump. Evidence: it started well before Trump. Unlike you I follow Israeli press quite closely and can cite articles from 2015 and 2016.

  21. Dr Fred Lenin

    Look at the incompetent fools of the left criticising a non aparat administration ,when they have nothing to show for their own years in office but disaster after disaster . As for Trump passing the spending bills .if he didn’t they would tie the country in political knots in revenge,stopping his gradual destruction of their plans for more disasters . The increased tax receipts from more employment and business confidence will help to pay for the government spending ,and Trump will cut out a lot of green spending These dictators have finally met someone who won’t hesitate to strike back ,unlike the half white and his u.n.communust mates . There are more than one ways to skin a cat ,and I don’t mean a catallaxian cat . The left can never see the wood for the trees a failure of the over educated drones.

  22. Boris
    #2669615, posted on March 25, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Chief of Staff Kelly notified Tillerson of his firing by phone when Tillerson was in Africa.

    That’s your idea of proper firing of your top official?

    My idea of firing anyone, let alone a top official, is dependent on the individual case. There is no one “proper” way of firing.

    Given that tillerson was dumped not for nay misconduct but for some diversion of views, a proper way would be for president himself (not chief of staff) to meet with him face to face or notify him well in advance to allow him to resign.

    Given that neither you nor I know why Tillerson was fired (it’s possible that even Tillerson himself doesn’t know the real reason for his firing), I choose not to make judgement, you do. That’s hubris.

    The latter option (used e.g. for McMaster ) can work even if their relationship deteriorated so much that it precluded the first option. But honour is not Trumps thing.

    Again, considering you have no accurate info as to why Tillerson was fired, making ASSumptions about what can work and what is honourable just makes an ASS of you.

  23. Confused Old Misfit

    That the firings were not done as Boris thinks they ought to have been done does not mean that they were done improperly.
    People with the life and corporate experience of Tillerson and McMaster are savvy enough to to see the handwriting on the wall before it is writ.
    They would know to expect the call, from whom the call would come and that the timing of the call would be at the pleasure of the president. They are also sufficient professional that they would continue to do their jobs until the call came.

  24. MPH

    So for all the foreign policy experts who think the meeting is a bad idea – how do you normalise relations with someone like North Korea without meeting them at some point? And do you really think North Korea wanted this meeting and weren’t brought to the table by some strong disincentives? Just because the current administration doesn’t blather continuously in the media about what is happening doesn’t mean things aren’t happening.

  25. mh

    And for good measure, it wasn’t “Trump’s budget” that went through Congress, it was the combined efforts of those two renowned fiscal conservatives, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

    Bilderberg globalist Lindsay Graham is an open border guy, of course. He’ll be stirring the pot trying to encourage the weakening of America’s borders – yes to Dreamers, no to the wall. The Republican Party is full of these cretins. The plus side is Trump is the People’s President, and they are fully aware of the the Establishment’s war on their President.

  26. Bruce of Newcastle

    He still hasn’t filled many positions which have Democrat appointees and all up his administration is more incompetent and more left wing than the Obama administration.

    Not Trumps fault.

    The gap at DOJ (10 Feb)

    80% Of US State Department’s Top Jobs Are Unfilled (19 Mar)

    White House: Chuck Schumer’s ‘Historic’ Obstruction Will Block Some Trump Admin Nominees for More than a Decade (16 Mar)

    Legislative Director Marc Short took the White House briefing podium on Friday to call out “historic obstruction” by Democrats for requiring 30 hours of debate over Trump administration nominees at a rate far beyond that which prior administrations faced.

    He contrasted the 79 cloture votes under Trump to a combined 17 cloture votes in the same time period under all of the four prior administrations, or five times as many. Under President George H.W. Bush’s entire four-year term “he faced one cloture vote,” said Short. In four years President Bill Clinton faced just ten total cloture votes. In his entire first term, President George W. Bush faced four cloture votes. President Barack Obama endured 17 total cloture votes in his first four-year term in office. That’s a total of 32 combined over the entire first terms of the prior four presidents.

    And when they call a cloture vote they read the phone book or something for 30 hours for every candidate.

    McConnell is aiding and abetting the Dems in this. He could nuke the filibuster and approve each nominee on a simple vote, but he hasn’t. Or he could wait until the holidays and let Trump make recess appointments, which is what Obama did. Nope McConnell won’t allow that either: he got together with Schumer and voted the Senate stay in session the whole of last summer holidays, even though no actual senators were there. Inescapable conclusion is that the Republican elites are impeding Trump in such a way that they avoid the notice of the base. The whole thing is dirty. Welcome to the Purple Party, our new masters.

    Hence the budget that’s just been passed. It’s so like the takeover of the Libs by the Photios group.

    Now what were you saying about Trump’s “incompetent” administration?

  27. Boris

    Because politicians never ever hold back on disclosing their intentions.

    You can easily hold back without lying. Just say we do not comment on runours, leaks and speculation.

  28. Boris

    We don’t know exactly why tliierson was fired, but trump usually does not hold up such information if it is serious. Absent any statement from WH on this, we can assume that this was due to policy/personality differences. Whatever it is, common decency should have prevailed. But Trump just does not care. Neither about his officials nor any other people but himself and his kids.

  29. Iampeter

    So for all the foreign policy experts who think the meeting is a bad idea – how do you normalise relations with someone like North Korea without meeting them at some point?

    You don’t normalize relations with a regime like North Korea, you destroy it. This is done through competent foreign policy which involves isolating it, setting terms of surrender, running rough-shod all over their territory with special forces and making their life hell while denying anything is happening. Basically everyone will know the West isn’t taking any shit without us having to say anything.
    Shooting down any missile tests and retaliating by blowing up launch sites, etc.
    The only time there should be a meeting is to accept their unconditional surrender.

    And do you really think North Korea wanted this meeting and weren’t brought to the table by some strong disincentives?

    Of course they did since unless this meeting is to accept their unconditional surrender it is a massive win for North Korea and helps legitimize their regime and buy them more time, which is all they really want.
    What’s happening at the moment is following the usual pattern of NK threats and sabre rattling followed by pretense of conciliatory talks and all the while buying them more time. It’s how they’ve survived so long when most other communist regimes have collapsed.
    Of course there has never been an American administration incompetent enough to actually have the president meet with them and give this regime an enormous credibility boost.

  30. Gary

    You don’t normalize relations with a regime like North Korea, you destroy it. This is done through competent foreign policy which involves isolating it, setting terms of surrender, running rough-shod all over their territory with special forces and making their life hell while denying anything is happening. Basically everyone will know the West isn’t taking any shit without us having to say anything.
    Shooting down any missile tests and retaliating by blowing up launch sites, etc.
    The only time there should be a meeting is to accept their unconditional surrender.

    So Iampeter is a neo-con looking to provoke war with China but thinks he can keep trading.

  31. Iampeter

    So Iampeter is a neo-con looking to provoke war with China but thinks he can keep trading.

    No not at all. Neocons have no foreign policy and helped shield the real culprits of 9/11 from retribution.

  32. Iampeter

    Also the best way to avoid wars as history has always shown us is to not be cowardly appeasers of evil.

    Nothing brings us closer to actual war with China then the enormous amount of credibility and longevity the NK regime will gain from an American President actually meeting with them for reasons other than accepting their surrender.

  33. RobK

    Iampeter,
    You will note Trump, at this stage, is having talks about having talks. I dont understand; if you say he should be more of a hawk on this, surely he is being more hawkish than his recent predecessors. His stand is not unlike yours but in a more formal, realistic way.

  34. RobK

    ” ….is to not be cowardly appeasers of evil.”
    Of all the worlds leaders, how can you possibly accuse Trump of this? He has had sanctions imposed, he has placed some of the worlds most potent military hardware on his doorstep. He has leveraged NKs enablers to heal from their economic and political support. He has focused the worlds attention on the problem…. and you suggest he is appeasing? Get real man.

  35. Gary

    No not at all. Neocons have no foreign policy and helped shield the real culprits of 9/11 from retribution.- Iampeter

    BS! Same play book. Starting a proxy war but play nice with those that fund the enemy.

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