Monday Forum: April 2, 2018

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  1. Mark from Melbourne

    Tim,

    What oCo said. It needs to be starved to death.

  2. Drink-Up Socrates

    I think he will make a good Governor.
    FFS, this complicit bullshit is why we will submit to a Stalinist dictatorship next election. My neighbour, Ern, would make a great WA Governor – he is a good bloke – what else does the Fat Slob Beazley have to offer?
    Why would you appoint a pollie who has just finished a huge trough snuffle, to another snuffle. Are there no other brilliant achievers out there who can bring a genuine societal culture to the Governor job – why a Pollie.
    What next. Appoint a failed Premier to run a huge athletics scam on the Gold Coast involving something that he not only knows nothing about but which his Party hates.
    So here we go. Disgusting fat lazy Beazley sits in medieaval luxury in a palace in Perth while his promoters screw Doris and Stan out of their life savings.
    “Levenka and I still support Comrade Stalin – he was a wise strong man”.
    Even the intellectually astute Cat is populated by well meaning folks who are compelled to support the Big Man.
    Wake-up FFS and stop bowing to the non-achieving kleptocracy – fight for your Grandchildren.
    I never worked with Beazley, but I did have a horrific experience in DC when Robert Ray was sent to the US to do something. As always, the wonderful Marines turned it on. In front of a guard of stunningly fit girls and boys and an outstanding Marine Captain Guard Commander, the disgusting Fitzroy beer gut (king maker no less so the Marxists would inform us) shuffled along, obviously suffering from exhaustion from the demands of walking at least 100m.
    My Marine escort (who we became life long friends with) said, “Sir, would you prefer me not to comment”.
    “Yes Jim, we are still embarrassed by Blamey at the Japanese surrender”. “It is an Australian characteristic flowing from a hard land where people must devote every minute to survival”. “While they toil, politicians rape them”.
    As my totally uncontrollable Foreman used to declare to our employees. “First get wise, then harden up”
    Elevate Cat! This shit is serious. No prisoners.

  3. John Constantine

    At least kawhaja moves up as a lock for the face of Australian cricket advertising.

    They tried miking him up, tried boosting him on radio, ignored the dissent as he walked of after the racist field umpire, the racist third umpire and the racist robot umpire technology gave him out this most recent innings.

    The Reform of this most colonialist of games means racists can no longer rally around a racist settler colonial national team.

    We ask not whether you won or lost, but how you played the game of decolonialist Reform.

  4. cohenite

    All black hole radiation theories are bullshit.

    So says the suburban solicitor.

    What’s up head prefect? Want to let off some steam after a hard day’s stock-broking.

  5. squawkbox

    Concur. No one could be as dumb as GrigoRae on tax unless they were doing it deliberately to provoke a response. Ignore it.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    Mitch Marsh numbers 4th Test …
    Bowling first innings… 6-1-30-0
    Bowling second innings… 8-0-40-0

    Batting first innings … 4 off 10 balls
    Batting second innings … 0 off 3 balls

    Sean Marsh numbers 4th Test …

    Batting first innings … 16 off 74 balls
    Batting second innings … 7 off 20 balls
    .
    So, between them they gave up 70 runs with the ball for no return, and made 27 in four digs … on a wicket which the Saffies scored 16 for 832.
    But, yes, their positions are safe.

  7. cohenite

    All black hole radiation theories are bullshit.

    Possibly – ditto black holes, but the spinoff research above looks potentially fruitful, technology-wise.

    Sure, ZPE and Casimir are fun to play with. But they can’t be applied.

  8. jupes

    At least kawhaja moves up as a lock for the face of Australian cricket advertising.

    Unfortunately you are probably right.

    He’s probably the only member of the top six who will keep his spot.

  9. candy

    what else does the Fat Slob Beazley have to offer?

    Poor fellow still looks huge and he looks worryingly unkempt. Out of all their Labor people, all hypocrites for desiring to be a Governor, they could have chosen someone at least looking a bit nattier and healthier surely.

  10. jupes

    But, yes, their positions are safe.

    No way. No one can defend their positions after this abomination of a series.

    The Marshes are gonski.

  11. max

    That sour faced newsreader on SBS is off her meds.

    Which one, the quacking Chinese duck or the Easter Island statue ?

  12. candy

    Teams led by wicketys seldom do well.

    It seems to me that captains must talk to all the bowlers and fieldsman if needed, run up and down a lot, liaise with the umpire, think and plan ahead, who is to bowl and when to rest them and so on, all the tactics.

    A wicketkeeper’s job is central and really important, saving runs, doing great catches, and even turning a tight game by making great saves. How can he possibly be Captain as well? wouldn’t he be exhausted.

  13. dopey

    Bring back Redpath and Bob Cowper.

  14. cohenite

    A wicketkeeper’s job is central and really important, saving runs, doing great catches, and even turning a tight game by making great saves. How can he possibly be Captain as well? wouldn’t he be exhausted.

    Some people like to be busy. Look at JC for example. Captain and wicket-keeper for the thread.

  15. Tim Neilson

    It’s not paid by the taxpayer, Tim. So it cannot be refundable to the taxpayer, Tim. It’s a bonus payment to individuals in excess of the tax they paid.
    Yes, exactly. It’s exactly the same as any other “refund” of a refundable tax offset – a payment in excess of the tax actually paid by the taxpayer, as I said above.
    Which is why your original statement that denying the franking credit would be “Just the same as applies to all other taxpayers” is bullshit.
    Sorry everyone.
    I really will sign off on this now.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    The Marshes are gonski.

    You underestimate the persuasive power of 9 point wagyu and Hill of Grace, jupes.

  17. feelthebern

    Is Bolta boning Kimberley Kitchings (or whatever her name is) ?
    She does look a tad cherubic (fat), which Bolta doesn’t mind (according to some of the art works he’s put on his blog).

  18. H B Bear

    Beazley doing better than backstabber, KRudd.

    All government appointed taxpayer funded appointments. Beazley is the fat loser kid who gets chosen for your team by the teacher so he isn’t the last to be picked.

    The Liars only put up with KRudd because they though (correctly) he could deliver them into government. Otherwise, just like everyone who has dealt with him, they hate his guts.

  19. Tim Neilson

    Leigh Lowe
    #2677746, posted on April 3, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Supermitch played over 20 tests and was averaging 19 when he last ceased to be part of the side, and Cricket Australia were adamant that he hadn’t been dropped, but was out because of injury.

    Four tests at an average of 22 should hardly need a schnitzel and a couple of schooners to keep him in for the next year or two.

  20. nemkat

    Shaun Marsh is a way better cricketer than Paine, he’s captained W.A. well in the past, and he should’ve got his chance here.

  21. max

    Relax.

    They made a mistake – somebody got the nomination cards mixed up.

    It’s not Beazley who’s the new WA governor.

    It’s Meatloaf.

  22. feelthebern

    IT lay off Sydney.
    You seriously have Perth related inadequacy issues.

  23. feelthebern

    Best butcher in Sydney is at the fish markets on the left hand side when you drive in.
    Can’t remember the name of the place.
    Top quality, cheap as.
    Just don’t order burgers there (they have a burger joint on the side).
    Takes a long long time for the bondi hipsters in the cafe to take an order, let alone cook the bloody thing.

  24. Rae

    Tim Neilson #2677745, posted on April 3, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Ah, Tim. It really is difficult for you to see what is as plain as the nose on your face. Here again is what I said quite a few threads ago:

    The Howard Government amended the dividend imputation arrangements so that people who paid no tax would be paid the value of the franking credits on their investments. This differed significantly from the normal taxing arrangements whereby people can only receive refunds up to the value of the tax they have actually paid. It meant that those non-taxpayers received a bonus payment that is a tax on all the other people who have actually paid tax.

    I repeat, Tim. You should acknowledge that I am correct in this matter. Because I am.

  25. feelthebern

    For Cats who love fine cinema, Red Heat is on Fox tonight.
    The opening scene is possibly the gayest scene that Arnie has ever been in.

  26. Nick

    Best butcher in Sydney is at the fish markets on the left hand side when you drive in.
    Can’t remember the name of the place.
    Top quality, cheap as.
    Just don’t order burgers there (they have a burger joint on the side).
    Takes a long long time for the bondi hipsters in the cafe to take an order, let alone cook the bloody thing.

    Bern, it’s run by Vic’s meats, the same place that is being mocked, lol.

  27. dopey

    Just make the Test team Victorians only. Put the rest of us out of our misery.

  28. Infidel Tiger

    IT lay off Sydney.
    You seriously have Perth related inadequacy issues.

    Perth is a normal city full off normal people. We never pretend to be anything we are not. All our dickheads move to Sydney & Melbourne.

  29. H B Bear

    Sock pats itself on the back. Fvckwit Sock.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    OK.
    Cricket selection.
    The bowlers are not impacted by suspension so just pick them as you would normally.
    Payne will stay as WK.
    Swampy Marsh will be pleading for “stabilidy” in the batting line-up (ie leave my boys alone).
    I am prepared to give Renshaw and Burns a leave pass for this test, given they were flown in with 48 hours to spare.
    I reckon it is a good opportunity to try out some young blokes, but no point picking six newbies.
    Even though his batting is sub-par, pick George Bailey as captain and bat him at 4. Maxxie at 6.
    Hurts me to say it but keep Kawaja at #3.

    I would go completely left field and put young Weatherald from SA in at 5. Seems to be improving every game.

    I think they need some experience at the top and maybe they go back to Finch. The other openjng spot is a toss of a coin between Renshaw and Burns to open with him (I say Burns).
    Not ideal but that is the best I got.

  31. cohenite

    Interesting developments in the Vicpol’s response to malcontents beginning with the disability pensioner.

    And then proving they’re equal opportunity with a Sudanese thief, reported in all it’s glory by the AGE.

  32. H B Bear

    Great work by VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force, shown on the 6pm news. Particularly that brave officer belting the guy’s calf with a baton multiple times while two officers sat on him after he had been capsicum sprayed in the face.

    Better get the cheque book out Victoriastani taxpayers. This is gonna be costly.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Supermitch played over 20 tests and was averaging 19 when he last ceased to be part of the side, and Cricket Australia were adamant that he hadn’t been dropped, but was out because of injury.

    Four tests at an average of 22 should hardly need a schnitzel and a couple of schooners to keep him in for the next year or two.

    Don’t forget his (snort, cackle) bowling.

  34. Harlequin Decline

    Beazley was a year or so ahead of me at UWA doing some sort of useless Arts degree. I remember him as a tallish figure swanning around campus with a svelte girlfriend and I think he smoked a pipe. He wasn’t fat in those days so he really must of got stuck into the grub since.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear

    #2677765, posted on April 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Great work by VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force, shown on the 6pm news. Particularly that brave officer belting the guy’s calf with a baton multiple times while two officers sat on him after he had been capsicum sprayed in the face.

    Remember, almost exactly the same time as this was happening back in September, they were called to a Sudanese riot in Werribee where a bunch of pissed thugs hired a house and and were totally terrorising the neighbours.
    Our brave thin blue line retreated to the end of the street and left them to it because OH&S.
    No arrests were made.
    Weak xunts.

  36. Knuckle Dragger

    People like Jimmy Maher, Martin Love, Brad Hodge and even Boof must be slitting their own nostrils open right now.

    In this environment they would be slotted into the XI, unchanged for the next ten years, but during their time they couldn’t get a decent look in.

  37. H B Bear

    He wasn’t fat in those days so he really must of got stuck into the grub since.

    Taxpayer trough.

  38. John Constantine

    When Boof did get in the Test side, once his tendons started to twinge, steve Waugh demanded he bowl like a stock bowler until he broke down and yet another new south waleser could be rammed into the lineup to replace him.

  39. Delta A

    I really will sign off on this now.

    Tim Neilson, thank you for sharing your expertise on this blog. The Cat is fortunate to have contributors of your standing.

  40. John Constantine

    Cate McGregor to captain, replacing kawhaja, few less runs off the bat, lot more effort in the field, good cricket brain and if we are going to do diversity picks to be the new face of cricket advertising, we might as well start out where they want us to finish.

    Comrades.

  41. Rae

    Delta A #2677775, posted on April 3, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    I really will sign off on this now.

    Tim Neilson, thank you for sharing your expertise on this blog. The Cat is fortunate to have contributors of your standing.

    Yes. It’s a pity Tim is not prepared to admit when he is wrong and someone else is correct. That, in my view, diminishes his standing, considerably.

  42. Leigh Lowe

    Hodge played 6 tests, made 503 runs at 55, including a double century and two 50’s.
    Pretty solid for the first six tests.
    But a goner.
    Mitch Marsh has taken 27 tests to get to 1,100 runs at an average of under 30.
    His bowling average is nearly 40.

  43. Atoms for Peace

    You put your right sock in, you take your right sock out, you put your right sock in and wank it all about. You do the dopey dopey and you turn around, that’s what it’s all about.

  44. thefrolickingmole

    I leave you alone for an hour and come back to a turgid sock doing victory laps after declaring “Victory, in my own mind”….

    Mummie will be so sad, she wanted a son to be proud of and instead got a flogger.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    Allan Border giving Craig McDermott some travel advice.
    I am struggling to see Smith issuing an ultimatum like that.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe this is the Border link.

  47. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    JMH
    #2677718, posted on April 3, 2018 at 8:23 pm
    Bimbo Beth. Apt.

    Sock picking up on glorious wit and panache of Grigorae.
    Sad. Grigorae invents his own admiring interlocutors.
    And unknown commenters.
    He is a complete blog unto himself.

  48. Rae

    Mummie will be so sad, she wanted a son to be proud of and instead got a flogger.

    Never mind, Hole. Sad that your Mummie didn’t get a son to be proud of. Never mind, she will be pleased if your nappy changing improves. Keep up the hand sanitizing though.

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You put your right sock in, you take your right sock out, you put your right sock in and wank it all about. You do the dopey dopey and you turn around, that’s what it’s all about.

    Beautifully written, Atoms, beautifully written.

    Wins the internet for the day.
    Has the great advantage that you can sing it.
    And mime it. Frolicking style.

  50. H B Bear

    Mitch Marsh is the new Shane Watson. Just less successful.

  51. cohenite

    Maybe this is the Border link.

    That’s great.

  52. Rae

    Grigorae

    I don’t mind it, Beth. I have said so before. I take it as a compliment that people add my name to that of Grigory M. But I would never claim to be in the same league as him. From what I have seen, he was a cut above most, if not all, other commenters here.

  53. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Melt in the mouth eye fillet, Snoopy. Very yummy with fried mushrooms and asparagus and sweet potato mash. All things I can cook.

    Alan Jones having a big go at Cricket Australia tonight with Peta Credlin on Sky.
    Hairy nodding along about the disgraceful culture that has gone on far too long.
    I say that Catallaxy has been nothing but cricket for a week, and he approves of that.
    Needs to be properly aired, he says gravely.

    And superannuation, I say. They’re talking about that too.
    Get out of it if you can, he replies.
    Da unions want your muney.

  54. jupes

    You underestimate the persuasive power of 9 point wagyu and Hill of Grace, jupes.

    Nope. Not even the award winning produce of a Piedmont winery could save the Marsh bros now.

  55. jupes

    Hurts me to say it but keep Kawaja at #3.

    The diversity pick should be first to go.

    He can’t tour.

  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    More sock mouth breathing. Ignore.

  57. feelthebern

    Lol.
    Vic’s meats it is then.
    Good on the chap.
    Selling top notch meat at knock down prices.

  58. feelthebern

    Perth has two kinds of people.
    The thieves.
    And the people being thieved from.

  59. feelthebern

    I believe the collective noun is a Perth of thieves.

  60. Rae

    More sock mouth breathing. Ignore.

    Ok, Beth. But why do you do it? Putting a sock over your mouth and breathing through it is something a child would do.

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Nope. Not even the award winning produce of a Piedmont winery could save the Marsh bros now.

    As it should be.
    This could go one of two ways.
    Option A could be a “save the furniture” approach and struggle to some honourable defeats, which means the Marshes survive.
    Option B is to take the long view and blood two or three young players, intermingled with some experience (say Bailey and Maxwell and one other). Bailey would know it was a 24 month gig and would be happy with that. Maxwell would be desparate to prove “train smarter” Smith wrong.
    Just tell the young players they have four tests in the twelve months no matter what.

  62. Oh come on

    Perth has two kinds of people.
    The thieves.
    And the people being thieved from.

    So what you’re saying is that it’s completely unremarkable?

  63. Leigh Lowe

    I say that Catallaxy has been nothing but cricket for a week, and he approves of that.

    Stop talking to the cat.
    It’s not healthy.
    To say the discussion is all about cricket us to say that discussion of the Bananaby affair was all about politics.
    Sure, there was some element of cricket in there but, in large part, this was an examination of all manner of human frailties … greed, unbridled anger, revenge, hubris and woeful regret.
    Shakespearian themes.
    Enough material for a book, dare I say.

  64. Oh come on

    This is a cleft that has divided humanity since forever.

  65. Knuckle Dragger

    Hmm. I like the idea of Finch, though not at 1 or 2

    Renshaw
    Burns
    S. Marsh (c)
    Finch
    Maxwell
    Bailey (vc)
    Paine
    Cummins
    Starc
    Lyon
    Hazlewood

    They get clear air and a clear run for two seasons to prove their worth, and that what muppets the selectors have been. Standbys include Henreiques, Weatherald, Carey the stand in keeper and KD.

    Bancroft’s a maybe if he gets back. Smith and Warner will have imploded long before then.

  66. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2677800, posted on April 3, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    I believe the collective noun is a Perth of thieves.

    I’m from Melbourne.
    I’d prefer to abstain on this one.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    KD, not sure about S Marsh as (c).
    If he fails the pressure is on.
    That is why I prefer Bailey. He would be there to lead and coach, not necessarily to make a stack of runs.
    I would definitely like to see Weatherald get, say, 3 tests. I reckon he could be a gun.

  68. cohenite

    A slightly more revealing video than the one previously linked to and shown by the AGE of the Sudanese bashed by police after he robbed the chemist store:

    https://www.facebook.com/ABC730/videos/10156298392819516/?hc_ref=ARSujNTgr8Q_Bcrpw2K3pfmhUKXnn2GYdtSoqNFDP5tCqsh49Pdmyq_xnWFPYZ0deKU

  69. Oh come on

    Alternatively, Leigh, it may be worth reflecting upon the degree to which we have elevated the trials of these rather ordinary people to population-enthralling levels. Why? Wtf? Who cares? It’s just a game. Get the hell over it already.

    Soap operatics, that’s what I see. The purported slur on the fucking baggy green is not equivalent to the Dardenelles failure. They are well remunerated sportsmen responding to perfectly understandable incentives. Heroes they ain’t. Why we expect them to be because cricket is beyond me.

  70. cohenite

    Pity about fatty ashton at the end.

  71. Pete of Perth

    The Commonwealth games will put the greatest moral crisis of our age on the back burner for what ever number of days the games are on.

  72. Oh come on

    Because cricket. Because Bradman.

    Seriously, who gives a shit. Bradman was a dab hand at making coin out of his status – decades before this became SOP for high-profile athletes. Ok, they cheated. Punish them proportionately and move on. This weird national garment-rending is bizarre.

  73. Oh come on

    What is this “Commonwealth games” you speak of? Something the bank organises?

    Half joking. The Commonwealth Games is a load of shit that no one cares about, and rightly so.

  74. Leigh Lowe

    Pete of Perth

    #2677813, posted on April 3, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    The Commonwealth games will put the greatest moral crisis of our age on the back burner for what ever number of days the games are on.

    The commonwealth what?

  75. Some History

    Comrades

    The announcements offer a glimpse into Beijing’s ambitious attempt to create a Social Credit System (SCS) by 2020 — that is, a proposed national system designed to value and engineer better individual behaviour by establishing the scores of 1.4 billion citizens and “awarding the trustworthy” and “punishing the disobedient”.
    RTWT
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-02/welcome-xi-jinpings-orwellian-dystopia

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Melbourne’s shameful police brutality scandal deepens: Policeman punches Sudanese thief 11 times in the head before clobbering him with a baton and then STOMPING on his back

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5572793/Victoria-Police-officer-seen-punching-kicking-stomping-Sudanese-chemist-thief.html#ixzz5Bc2XmeqG
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Victoria Police – bashing those in custody since 2016.

  77. H B Bear

    Victoria Police – bashing those in custody since 2016.

    Prior to that they just used to shoot them in the field. The good old days.

  78. Crossie

    Who is in charge of resetting the blog’s clock now that daylight saving is over?

  79. zyconoclast

    Police are ‘trained to hide vital evidence’
    Full extent of disclosure failures laid bare

    The scale of the failure by police and prosecutors to disclose vital evidence in criminal cases is exposed today in documents showing that such behaviour is routine and deliberate.

    A dossier seen by The Times reveals a commonly held view that the defence is not entitled to see all the evidence. It discloses the tactics used to stop it being handed over, with officers in at least one force apparently trained in how to avoid making available material that might undermine their case.

    The file draws on the reports of 14 focus groups with the police, and others with prosecutors and judges, as well as a survey of prosecutors.

    The findings come after this newspaper reported on a series of rape cases that collapsed at the eleventh hour when evidence was passed to defence lawyers. The comments in the dossier include one prosecutor saying: “In even quite serious cases, officers have admitted to deliberately withholding sensitive material from us and they frequently approach us only a week before trial. Officers are reluctant to investigate a defence or take statements that might assist the defence or undermine our case.”

    Among the comments from police focus groups was: “If you don’t want the defence to see it, then [evidence] goes on the MG6D” — a reference to the list of sensitive unused material to which the defence does not have access. In another focus group, an inspector noted that police “have been trained to put items on there that they do not want disclosed to the defence”. This tactic was confirmed by prosecutors. One recorded comment was that “officers put undermining material on the MG6D list to hide”.

    In one report on focus groups with judges, the inspectors note a judge saying: “There seems to be an idea that the defence is not entitled to see things but where the defence press matters, this yields results.”

    Prosecutors are also at fault. Sometimes this is because of what one called a “hugely excessive and complex caseload, insufficient time to do the job, poor-quality and slow digital systems, poor-quality investigation by police [and] wrong prioritising of objectives by the organisation”.

    The dossier was obtained by the Centre for Criminal Appeals, a charity, under a freedom of information request to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) Inspectorate and the Inspectorate of Constabulary, which collated the unpublished comments when preparing a joint report on disclosure of evidence last year.

    It makes clear that the failure to hand over evidence that may undermine the prosecution case is often deliberate and comes at a time when the criminal justice system is under scrutiny. Last year The Times revealed that Liam Allan, a 22-year-old student, spent almost two years on bail and was put on trial on 12 charges of sexual violence because the police failed to hand over text messages from the alleged victim that would have exonerated him. His lawyer secured the messages and he was cleared. Other similar cases subsequently came to light.

    Alison Saunders, the director of public prosecutions, and Jeremy Wright, the attorney-general, began inquiries into disclosure failings after the trials failed. It emerged yesterday that Ms Saunders’s contract as DPP was not to be renewed — which she said was through her own choice.

    Last week the CPS and police inspectors gave evidence to the Commons justice select committee. Kevin McGinty, chief inspector of the CPS, said disclosure failings were the single most frequent cause in the steady stream of miscarriages of justice. He described a culture in which disclosure was seen not as part of an investigation but “more of an administrative exercise”.

    The Centre for Criminal Appeals has submitted evidence on disclosure to the justice select committee along with the Cardiff Law School Innocence Project, urging the creation of an independent agency to deal with the issue.

  80. zyconoclast

    Theresa May could be forced to give up her 100,000 a year immigration target to get a Brexit trade deal with the EU as her top ministers push for concessions to get a better agreement

    But it would likely end hopes of ever slashing migration – currently running at almost 250,000 a year – to the long-held Tory target of 100,000.

    One Cabinet minister ally of Mrs May told The Sun: ‘If you look at the members of the Strategy and Negotiations Committee, they are all entrenched on their various positions about our red lines, expect for immigration.

    ‘That is the one area they’ll all happily trade apart from her, because Rudd, Hammond, Boris and Gove are all pro-migration.’

  81. jupes

    Option A could be a “save the furniture” approach and struggle to some honourable defeats, which means the Marshes survive.

    Honourable?

    How was this latest defeat in any way honourable? It was a pathetic capitulation and the Marshes led the way.

    I’m off them.

  82. Tim Neilson
    #2677709, posted on April 3, 2018 at 8:07 pm
    Rae – Do you not understand that the franking credit refund is a refund of tax that’s been paid on the shareholder’s share of the company’s profits?

    To be fair to Rae, the fools in the SFLP don’t understand this either. If they did, our Treasurer, Finance Minister, and PM would be shouting Shorten’s inadequacies to the rooftops.
    But no.

  83. Dave in Marybrook

    Harlequin-
    Hannah Beazley was in my UWA intake, doing a useless Arts-Law double.
    Useless… unless you’re in line for the third of a Dynasty.
    She was o.k… but like Mia Davies, it’s kinda hard to believe her blood and guts are in the fray.

  84. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She was o.k… but like Mia Davies, it’s kinda hard to believe her blood and guts are in the fray.

    Mia Davies was my local member, following Brendon Grylls departure. The scion of a fine old family, in National Party politics, bound for great things, as long as someone else does the dirty work..

  85. Marcus

    Hmm. I like the idea of Finch, though not at 1 or 2

    Renshaw
    Burns
    S. Marsh (c)
    Finch
    Maxwell
    Bailey (vc)
    Paine
    Cummins
    Starc
    Lyon
    Hazlewood

    Throw Ashton Turner into the mix too.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Stop talking to the cat.

    Huh? Blockquote fail, Leigh.
    Grigorae is having a bad effect on the tone of things.
    Tonight’s extensive Shakespearian content notwithstanding.

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Grigorae is having a bad effect on the tone of things.
    Tonight’s extensive Shakespearian content notwithstanding.

    I bear no ill will to Grogarly, and all his sockpuppets – they should be drawn through the streets on hurdles, before being hanged, and quartered, in front of a jeering crowd, pelting them with dead cats and rotten tomatoes. Nothing personal at all.

  88. Mitch M.

    You May Live Longer By Severely Restricting Calories, Scientists Say

    While nutrition and health science is all too often observational studies there is a lot of progress being made. The idea of fasting\caloric restriction in part became a research focus because of the work of Mark P. Mattson and his team. I read his material so 20 years ago I came to the conclusion that there is merit and all the research since then has supported the idea of fasting. There are many ways of fasting and there many types of metabolisms and lifestyles so you need to find your own way on that score. If you’re over 40 years of age give it serious thought, if you’re over 70 years of age I don’t think it is a good idea. That middle age window though, there is a mountain of evidence that we can do much to improve our health and vitality in spite of poor past habits. Whatever you decide don’t decide on perpetual caloric restriction. Too many risks.

  89. Rae

    Old School Conservative #2677829, posted on April 4, 2018 at 12:25 am

    Tim Neilson
    #2677709, posted on April 3, 2018 at 8:07 pm
    Rae – Do you not understand that the franking credit refund is a refund of tax that’s been paid on the shareholder’s share of the company’s profits?

    To be fair to Rae, the fools in the SFLP don’t understand this either. If they did, our Treasurer, Finance Minister, and PM would be shouting Shorten’s inadequacies to the rooftops.
    But no.

    To be fair, with this embarrassing comment you have again demonstrated an innate ability to face-plant when trying to be a smart-arse about something I’ve said. That’s 4 times in a row. You would serve the discussion better by encouraging Neil the 30 year tax man to stick to the facts.

  90. None

    Australia which is what a quarter of the population of UK currently takes in 250000 welfare junkies er migrants a year. Insanity.

  91. For what it’s worth the new video of the Chemist thief shows the prick got exactly what he deserved.
    Yes, it was harsh, but fair.
    He assaulted and threatened what looks like an elderly chemist and an employee, smashed stuff, and got a hiding for it. Then he decided he wanted to go again and tried it on with one of the coppers. And got a hiding, again.
    OTOH, I’m curious about the old bloke who got pepper sprayed who was said to be in a confused state due to inability to get his pain medication. OK he was a cranky old bugger, but what he got was over the top. I wonder how much of the situation was due to the new codeine restriction laws?

  92. Tom

    Wow. Not only is Mark Knight a NeverTrumper, he’s also a climate zombie with Abbott Derangement Syndrome.

  93. Top Ender

    Jim Molan’s piece in the Oz today:

    We must plan now to be ready for future conflict
    JIM MOLAN
    The Australian12:00AM April 4, 2018

    Peter Jennings is perfectly right to demand, as he did in The Weekend Australian,that “Australia must toughen up, and prepare for armed conflict”.

    But it is not quite true that no one saw this coming. Some of us have been writing about the need to accept that Australia might have to fight a serious war since the Rudd-Gillard years did inestimable damage to the Australian military. The Coalition government since 2013 has taken limited but significant steps to create the capability.

    Neither would I agree the major challenge is nuclear war on the Korean peninsula. Australia is competently prepared for the little that we might be able to do in that scenario, given our limited capability and the small reaction time that Korean events will offer.

    Nuclear war on the peninsula is the most immediate challenge, but it may not be the most dangerous for Australia. Some form of protracted state-on-state conflict, whether Australia decides to participate or not, is likely to be much more challenging than the figurative flash on the horizon in north Asia.

    Australia has not been militarily tested since World War II. Rather, we have deployed forces to successive wars where the government had the choice to go to war or not and how we would participate.

    These have been called wars of choice where we never had to commit to actually winning.

    Our tactical successes have led many Australians to blithely assume that we are adequately defended — but against what?

    What if we faced a war of necessity, a fight we needed to win using what we had at the moment? To assume those days have passed is naive. To assume that we would be given much notice to prepare is dangerous.

    To prepare for serious war is not militarism. Strength still deters and weakness provokes. Our aim must be to deter war by being able to win. As Jennings implies, it is time for Australia to take hard power seriously.

    The Coalition government invested $200 billion in the early stages of our rearmament to buy ships, submarines, armoured vehicles, aircraft, satellites, and a plethora of systems that enable us to fight. But what war are you preparing for?

    Defence is far more than the military, but in preparing for serious conflict, the military effect of defence policy is an Australian Defence Force that can deter war by being able to win. To do this and carry the people with you, government must be open about what it thinks is the war it is preparing for, what it expects that war to be like, its judgment as to when it is likely to occur and how it would intend to fight it.

    I am not talking about North Korea; I am talking about protracted state-on-state warfare.

    We need not discuss precisely whom the government expects to fight. It may be dangerous to do so. But this cannot be the reason to not prepare.

    The likelihood of a serious war has moved from improbable to at least plausible, and a distinct enough possibility for us to prepare seriously for it. We are not buying high-end fighters, ships, submarines and armoured vehicles to deliver humanitarian aid, but despite the excellent efforts of this government, is it enough?

    To many, this military build-up appears to have several confusing elements that could be easily and cheaply clarified.

    There is no clear strategy as to what kind of war Australia is preparing for. Where is our policy coherence?

    What is assumed to be high-level policy and strategy is not linked by an operational concept to the type of equipment being procured, the forces to be built and, most importantly, how a war will be fought. So we know the “what”, but how and where do we expect to fight?

    Ships, submarines, armoured vehicles and sustainable logistics all take time. Do we have it?

    Land forces are too small in capability (perhaps not so much in numbers); the navy is still short of personnel and needs its planned ships; and all lack logistics, missile stocks and equipment replacements.

    We have only limited capability to really hurt an aggressor, something that China has perfected in its area denial strategy, mainly through rocketry. In how we fight, can we afford to be overly defensive?

    Deficiencies in fuel reserves, missiles and replacement equipment undercut every other aspect of the build-up. How long will the force we are rebuilding need to fight?

    Given the rise of opponents to the West and the relative lessening of US military power, Australia must not reject alliances but should recognise limits on US power, and move effectively to far greater levels of self-sufficiency.

    The first move in recognising reality costs not one penny and can be made only by government, and that move is to determine and publicly state what kind of war Australia is preparing for, in what time frame and how we are going to fight. This can be done without naming possible enemies.

    The government’s achievements in defence are enormous, but the strategic environment remains challenging. We run the risk of preparing for the last series of small wars conducted under the wing of what was once a superpower, with only a token nod towards high-level conflict.

    A really smart country and government would do the thinking now — at no expense — and carry the nation with it.

    Jim Molan is a senator for NSW.

    My (pending) comment is:

    Interesting…if we’re really serious about acquiring new submarines can we abandon the present idea?

    Would you buy a car by going into the showroom and asking for something that does not yet exist, and commit to buying it anyway?

    Link

  94. Tintarella di Luna

    Good morning, want to say how beautiful is Perth. Each day the sky was a burning blue and the weather warm and rather summery. The wedding was really lovely at 4pm on City Beach with celebrations into the wee hours. We stayed in a privately rented homestay, a great alternative to staying a hotel with our own hire-car.

    We visited Mandoon and Sandaldford wineries – so many families enjoying the sunshine with picnics in picturesque surroundings on the Swan River. At Sandalford the heady aroma of crushed grapes instantly took me back to the large shed in which my dad made wine when I was a child.

    So much room over in Perth, a tightly-managed agenda by the family meant I couldn’t catch up with Perth cats but hope our next visit will be more leisurely. We’re now back to the traffic jams and chaos of Sydney, but it’s home, and it’s where the heart is except when it’s not.

  95. stackja

    Sydney high school accused of ‘Islamic brainwashing’ for essay topic on ‘social exclusion’ of Muslims
    BRUCE McDOUGALL, The Daily Telegraph
    32 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    OUTRAGED parents have accused a Sydney high school of “Islamic brainwashing’’ by ordering students to write an essay about the “social exclusion” of Muslims in Australian society.

    The HSC assignment requires Year 12 students to explain the “barriers that people of Muslim faith face in accessing socially valued resources”, provide examples and upload a presentation to YouTube.

    The Society and Culture assessment task at Leumeah High School, near Campbelltown, sparked parental uproar after former federal Labor leader Mark Latham claimed it was the latest intrusion of left-wing politics in the classroom.

    Parents complained students were being “groomed and brainwashed in Islamics and sharia law” and the assessment perpetuated a view that Australia was a racist country that did not welcome ­immigrants.

    “Once again we see how the left and the so-called academic elite are out to indoctrinate rather than educate our youth,” one parent said.

    “It is running to an agenda that has no place in our society and all it does is further erode our faith in the education system. I hope the parents boycott the school and remove their kids.”

    Another said: “Simply outraged. Muslims have been welcomed into this country for decades. They have the same chances and opportunities as all others, in some cases more than people born here.”

    Mr Latham said those being excluded at the school, which is in his former electorate of Werriwa, were students “who have lost the right to a practical, commonsense education”.

    “They are the latest victims of the rise of left-wing politics in Australian schools. Given the contentious nature of current political debates about Islam, the students have been placed in a difficult position.’’

    For the assessment, students were required to deliver a 3-5 minute oral presentation about social exclusion faced by Muslims, including examples of the social barriers they faced.

    Late yesterday the NSW Department of Education apologised and said the question would be changed to include “social inclusion and exclusion”.

  96. A Lurker

    Monash University has put out a video presentation celebrating Marxist values and promoting hard-Left activism.

    More about it here.

  97. stackja

    Crime rates are growing in ‘developer’s paradise’ Ryde
    EXCLUSIVE, Nick Hansen, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    IT’S been dubbed a “developer’s Disneyland” — but in the shadows of the towering new unit blocks crime rates are soaring in the once middle-class haven of Ryde.

    And a state government MP warns against the ­“develop at all costs” approach.

    In a stark example of what might happen to other growth areas, criminals have turned up the heat in the Ryde local government area where an extra 13,000 people have been jammed in over five years, the most recent data shows.

    Newly added to the clutter on Ryde’s residential skyline is the Chinese-built, three-tower, 830-unit Ryde Garden now under construction.

    A massive development under way at Shepherds Bay near Ryde Bridge will bring another 1988 dwellings to the area, with the possibility of more on the way.

    Meanwhile, Ivanhoe Estate at Macquarie Park will also add another 3000 over the next decade.

    It will include at least 950 social housing units, adding to the current stock of about 1836 social housing dwellings — a number that jumped almost a quarter between 2001 and 2011.

    And then there are the boarding houses — there are two more in the pipeline, one 15 storeys with 774 rooms, while another application is for six storeys with 26 rooms.

  98. Gab

    What a lovely vignette to read first thing, Tinta. Glad you enjoyed your brief visit!

  99. Oh come on

    Breaking at Drudge: someone is shooting up YouTube HQ.

  100. areff

    A Lurker’s link to the Speccie will encounter a paywall. Quadrant’s Tony Thomas broke the same story but with many more details — including the incidental information that a leftoid activist “charity” is funded to the tune of $3 million a year by Julia Bishop’s DFAT.

    http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2018/04/mad-rad-dangerous-knowledge/

    Enjoy!

  101. Oh come on

    Police are investigating reports of gunshots near YouTube’s office in San Bruno on Tuesday.

    San Bruno Police tweeted: “Police activity at 901 Cherry Ave, please stay out of the area.”

    No other information was available.

    Developing, as Drudge likes to say.

  102. rickw

    The HSC assignment requires Year 12 students to explain the “barriers that people of Muslim faith face in accessing socially valued resources”, provide examples and upload a presentation to YouTube.

    A friend has recently had cause to access centrelinks services. Seems that muslims are the ones most able to access the services as the routes to welfare are well known and well communicated in the muslim community. If you’re a mere Australian Citizen who has paid taxes all your life, then you’ll be left fumbling around in the dark as to what you might be able to access. (Lefty quickly becoming Righty as the “social safety net” is yanked from beneath him to support the invaders.)

  103. calli

    The HSC assignment requires Year 12 students to explain the “barriers that people of Muslim faith face in accessing socially valued resources”, provide examples and upload a presentation to YouTube.

    What a stupid question. Well, it’s not really a question but a boilerplate proposition that students are forced to accept before going on to complete the assignment.

    A better one would have been, “Do Muslims face barriers in accessing socially valued resources?”

    Then students could research both sides and come up with their presentation.

    But you can’t have young people forced to think for themselves. That would never do.

  104. Oh come on

    A disgruntled YouTuber reacting to their arbitrary demonetisation/restriction policies that seem to disproportionately impact conservative viewpoints? Hopefully not – would be counterproductive if so.

  105. Oh come on

    A friend has recently had cause to access centrelinks services.

    Don’t. Just don’t. Hock your kids before going there. It’s that awful.

  106. stackja

    Oh come on
    #2677867, posted on April 4, 2018 at 7:18 am
    Breaking at Drudge: someone is shooting up YouTube HQ.

    Police respond to reports of possible shooting at YouTube headquarters in San Bruno
    By Peter Fimrite Updated 1:23 pm, Tuesday, April 3, 2018

    San Bruno police were responding Tuesday afternoon to reports of a possible shooting at YouTube’s headquarters in San Bruno.

    A company employee, Vadim Lavrusik, wrote on Twitter just before 1 p.m.: “Active shooter at YouTube HQ. Heard shots and saw people running while at my desk. Now barricaded inside a room with coworkers.”

    There were no immediate details from authorities.

    The San Bruno Police Department tweeted at 1 p.m.: “Police activity at 901 Cherry Ave, please stay out of the area.”

    Check back for updates.

  107. Tailgunner

    Stimpy – is it our guy,PewDiePie??

  108. Peter Castieau

    Perth has been turning on the weather lately , glad you enjoyed your stay Tinta.

  109. Australia’s next eleven:

    Fred Lenin (cpt.)
    Areff (vc)
    egg and baldrick to open batting
    bowlers zk2a, topender (missile throwers)
    Arky, Stimp, Leigh Lowe, JC, calli

    Under Fred’s leadership and with sufficient financial support this wiley team will buy a win anywhere in the world.

  110. feelthebern

    If IT & Tailgunner can’t make the Cat First XI there is something wrong.

  111. feelthebern

    Also, the real First XI refers to the round ball game, football.
    Soccer to you heathens.
    Dunno how cricket, the colonial game of white, male, privilege usurped it.

  112. feelthebern

    name your team ftb

    Sinc at goalie.
    The rest of you just scatter about & have some fun.
    Leave at least a few oranges for the ladies at half time.

  113. stackja

    Susikone
    ‏@straightAstoner
    15 minutes ago
    Replying to @SanBrunoPolice
    Seeing a male officer pat-frisk females on scene @CNN. Is it really that tough to get a female officer to help? Do better SBPD.

  114. stackja

    San Bruno Police
    ‏@SanBrunoPolice
    33 minutes ago
    We are responding to an active shooter. Please stay away from Cherry Ave & Bay Hill Drive.

  115. Tailgunner

    ABC7 News

    @abc7newsbayarea
    WATCH LIVE: Shooter at #YouTube in #SanBruno believed to be white female adult wearing dark top and headscarf. https://abc7ne.ws/2q3VPGj

    Converted Muslima??
    Early days,stay tuned.

  116. Tailgunner

    TMZ reporting female shooter shot& is down.

  117. hzhousewife

    Late yesterday the NSW Department of Education apologised and said the question would be changed to include “social inclusion and exclusion”.

    Students could write an essay about the way the ABC’s Jon Faine interviews people like Carly Findlay?

  118. Top Ender

    Well spoken letter in the Oz:

    Unstoppable spending

    Your editorial (“Spending must return to affordable level”, 3/4) is more than just credible; it is indisputable. The question is how does any government do it?

    As you rightfully point out, the bulk of the big, out-of-control, spending is in health and welfare. Every attempt by the current government to harness these has met with fierce opposition by Labor — which is largely responsible for the ill-conceived initiatives that have created the excessive spending — and a Senate full of ideologues and opportunists.

    And despite the current situation, we see Labor continuing its efforts to throw more money at these areas if it wins office next time around.

    If Malcolm Turnbull even hints at winding back spending on welfare and health come the next election, he might as well just hand over the keys to The Lodge to Bill Shorten now. The problem is there are so many voters who are beneficiaries of government handouts that there is no appetite for belt tightening.

    Sadly, we have a problem that our present national psyche will not let us solve.

    John George, Terrigal, NSW

  119. stackja

    Authorities respond to shooting at YouTube headquarters
    Just now
    SAN BRUNO, Calif. (AP) — Police and federal officials have responded to reports of a shooting Tuesday at YouTube headquarters in Northern California.

    Police in the city of San Bruno said there was an active shooter but could not provide more information. Multiple 911 calls reported gunfire, and police and fire officials have responded, City Manager Connie Jackson said.

    Television news footage showed people leaving the building in a line, holding their arms in the air for police to inspect as they were leaving the building. Officers patted down people grouped outside, and police vehicles surrounded the area.

    Google, which owns the world’s biggest online video website, posted on Twitter that the company is coordinating with authorities. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says it’s also responding to the shooting at YouTube’s suburban campus.

    YouTube employee Vadim Lavrusik posted on Twitter that he heard gunshots and saw people running. He said he was barricaded in a room with his co-workers before being safely evacuated.

    Will Hudson said his friend who works for YouTube texted him about the shooter.

    “I think there might be a shooter in my building,” read one text. “The fire alarm went off so we started to evacuate and then people (started) running saying there was a shooter.”

    Police in Northern California are responding to reports of a shooting at the headquarters of YouTube in the city of San Bruno. (April 3)

    Hudson said his friend has made it safely back to San Francisco and is in contact with his family. Hudson said he’s become accustomed to hearing about such violence but has never been so close to it before.

    “It just feels strange. It feels like it could really be anyone. That’s really the strangeness of it,” he said.

    Calls and emails to YouTube representatives were not immediately returned.

  120. Tel

    The YouTube office forgot to put up “Gun Free Zone” signs around the place… their OH&S department are going to have to do a long self-criticism struggle session over this.

  121. Mother Lode

    Just popping in quickly while on the train to say:

    Fuck off, Socktimus!

  122. stackja

    ‘Chappaquiddick’ puts focus on aftermath of Kennedy accident
    By RYAN PEARSON
    1 hour ago

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Jason Clarke plunged into frigid waters, repeatedly, for his role as the late Sen. Ted Kennedy in “Chappaquiddick.”

    The Australian actor said his research about the accident that thwarted Kennedy’s presidential chances included jumping into Poucha Pond, the same waters the Massachusetts Democrat’s car crashed into in July 1969, killing Mary Jo Kopechne.

  123. stackja

    The Associated Press
    ‏Verified account
    @AP
    3 minutes ago
    RAW VIDEO: The scene outside YouTube headquarters in California after reports of a shooting.

    YouTube on YouTube.

  124. stackja

    SYDNEY Sydney Harbour Bridge
    CHANGED TRAFFIC CONDITIONS Police operation
    Started today 4:48am, last checked today 7:15am
    Heavy traffic conditions. Expect significant delays.
    Impact: Impact 2 of 4 northbound lane(s) closed.
    Impact Southbound traffic affected.
    Attending: Emergency service(s), RMS
    Advice: Stay away
    Delay journey
    Public transport: Buses are delayed up to 30 minutes.

    Other Info: Motorists are advised to STAY AWAY from approaches to the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

    Southbound traffic is queued back past the M2 Motorway at Macquarie Park.
    Northbound traffic is queued back to Huntleys Point on Victoria Road.

    If travel is necessary motorists are advised to allow plenty of additional travel time.

    The Sydney Harbour Bridge lane setup will not be placed into the AM peak configuration until the police operation has finished.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    ABC7 News

    @abc7newsbayarea
    WATCH LIVE: Shooter at #YouTube in #SanBruno believed to be white female adult wearing dark top and headscarf. https://abc7ne.ws/2q3VPGj

    OMG!
    I hope my favourite Andre Rieu videos are safe.

  126. stackja

    NSW Police
    ‏Verified account
    @nswpolice
    2 minutes ago
    Police continue to speak with a man who climbed the Sydney Harbour Bridge about 4.30am today. Some lanes have had to be closed as the man has moved about the structure; so please obey speed limits & traffic signals & watch out for emergency service officers on scene

  127. Leigh Lowe

    The HSC assignment requires Year 12 students to explain the “barriers that people of Muslim faith face in accessing socially valued resources”, provide examples and upload a presentation to YouTube.

    HSC assignment.
    “Can Perky and Bouncy co-exist? Or are they irretrievably incompatible? Discuss.”

  128. Tailgunner

    MSNBC FakeNews reporting female shooter dead at scene.
    Headscarf, no reports of Allahu Ackbar yet. Angry Antifa? Trannie? Montel will know…

  129. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #2677899, posted on April 4, 2018 at 8:30 am
    The HSC assignment requires Year 12 students to explain the “barriers that people of Muslim faith face in accessing socially valued resources”, provide examples and upload a presentation to YouTube.

    HSC assignment.
    “Can Perky and Bouncy co-exist? Or are they irretrievably incompatible? Discuss.”

    Does size matter? Discuss.

  130. Tintarella di Luna

    What a lovely vignette to read first thing, Tinta. Glad you enjoyed your brief visit!

    Thanks Gab, I did miss Easter with the family but we’ll have a celebration next Sunday instead.

    I have always loved Perth. One of the Sunbather’s siblings moved there about 30 years ago and their children are well and truly settled, some with children of their own. If my entire family would move there permanently so would I, there’s so much room and the wineries are really something. A couple of Margaret River favourites are Leeuwin Estate and Vasse Felix, absolute gems with more than wines besides.

  131. Tailgunner

    BNL NEWS
    @BreakingNLive
    JUST IN: Salahoden Abdul-Kafi, a #YouTube product manager tells SF Gate that the shooting suspect at HQ in San Bruno “had a shooting mask on, full body armor and was calmly walking and firing a HANDGUN.”
    7:26 AM – Apr 4, 2018

    Reports of a male shooter also. Confusion reigns!
    San Bernadino Redux??

  132. “Can Perky and Bouncy co-exist?

    That sounds more like a first year uni question.

    It is something that many undergraduates grapple with.

  133. feelthebern

    This just in:
    Tinta is an IT sock puppet.
    The Perth musings were the giveaway.

  134. Tom

    San Bruno cops: dead female shooter killed herself.

  135. stackja

    2GB report: shooter dead, self-inflicted.

  136. Tailgunner

    “Can Perky and Bouncy co-exist? Or are they irretrievably incompatible? Discuss.”

    It’s entirely possible,but extremely rare 🙁
    Thanks for making me remember her…Good Lord,magnificent! 😉

  137. Tailgunner

    TheirABC FakeNewsradio headline “person dead after YouTube shooting”
    Lol. ABC -always on the ball!

  138. Tom

    Fox News Channel: Youtube attack “appears to be domestic violence”.

  139. stackja

    Great gusts blow out Silverton wind farm’s debut
    The Australian-32 minutes ago
    NSW Parliamentary Secretary for Renewable Energy Ben Franklin said 12GW of projects were approved or in the planning system as the state’s coal-heavy generation industry makes a late bid to catch up to more rapid increases in Victoria and South Australia. Energy retailers and generators are betting .

    Benjamin Franklin FRS FRSE was an American polymath and one of the Founding Fathers of the United States.

  140. Gab

    Tinta I lived in Perth for a few years and found to be most hospitable. Although I did get a tad bored with seeing glorious blue sky day in day out. Lol
    I was at one of Leeuwin Estate’s annual gala concerts under the stars. It was an exceptionally enjoyable experience listening to some crooner as the moon rose up among the glorious gum trees. Julio Iglesias I think was the performer.

  141. Tailgunner

    End Toxic Feminism now!

  142. stackja

    Daylight saving time: Don’t Blame Ben Franklin — But make it stop
    Kristi Stone Hamrick By Kristi Stone Hamrick | Fox News

    The Department of Energy looked into the matter to determine just how much energy was conserved by this jarring shift in the time-space continuum, and found that the answer was not much if anything. Why? Because it turns out that if you get up early and it’s dark, you turn on the light, while if you stay up late and it’s dark, you turn on the light. This is the kind of cutting edge analysis that keeps government at full employment.

  143. Tailgunner

    First the mass child-murdering lesbians,now this.
    The wamen’s are out of control!

  144. Tom

    Yes, Gunner, it definitely sounds like an out-of-control dyke bitch war.

  145. Delta A

    Di Natale kicks off his election campaign, appealing to the brain dead. From The $Oz:

    Let’s have welfare for all, says Di Natale

    Greens leader Richard Di Natale will call for a radical replacement of the welfare system with a universal basic income scheme where all Australian citizens would receive a regular, non-means-tested wage from the government, with no obligation to work.

    In a speech to the National Press Club today, Senator Di Natale will also call for the establishment of a “People’s Bank” to provide low-interest government loans to first-home buyers.

    He will propose the Reserve Bank should offer banking services online, via Australia Post and other contractors.

    It would offer a no-frills “mortgage tracker” account to homeowners, with those paying off their home able to borrow up to 60 per cent of the value of the property directly from the RBA.

    Interest rates would start at 3 per cent, plus 0.5 per cent to cover costs. Loans would be capped at $500,000 for owner-occupiers, repayable over a maximum of 30 years.

    Amid internal tensions following his party’s loss to Labor in the Batman by-election in Melbourne’s inner north last month, Senator Di Natale will argue for an overhaul of the “outdated” social security system that he says is unable to keep up with the changing nature of work and increasing inequality.

    “It can’t properly support those experiencing underemployment, insecure work and uncertain hours.

    “A modern, flexible and responsive safety net would increase their resilience and enable them to make a greater contribution to our community and economy,” Senator Di Natale will say.

    “That’s why we need a universal basic income. We need a UBI that ensures everyone has access to an adequate level of income, as well as access to universal social services, health, education and housing.’’

    Senator Di Natale will say the Greens are the only party proudly arguing for a much stronger role for government. He will tout his “People’s Bank” as a means of giving current and future homeowners an advantage over investors and of injecting competition into the banking sector.

  146. Tailgunner

    Ban assault girlfriends!

  147. stackja

    Woman opens fire at YouTube, 4 wounded and shooter dead
    By JEFF CHIU and SUDHIN THANAWALA
    Just now

    SAN BRUNO, Calif. (AP) — A woman opened fire at YouTube’s headquarters in the San Francisco Bay Area Tuesday, wounding four people before she shot and killed herself and prompting panic as employees hid and tried to flee, police and witnesses said.

    Officers and federal agents swarmed the company’s headquarters complex in the city of San Bruno as multiple 911 reports came in reporting gunfire.

    San Bruno Police Chief Ed Barberini told reporters that the victims have gunshot wounds and were taken to hospitals.

  148. stackja

    A spokesman for San Francisco General Hospital says it received three patients. Spokesman Brent Andrew says a 36-year-old man was in critical condition, a 32-year-old woman was in serious condition and a 27-year-old woman was in fair condition.

    The hospital was expecting more patients but Andrew did not know their conditions.

    Television news footage showed people leaving the building in a line, holding their arms in the air for police to inspect as they were leaving the building. Officers patted down people to make sure none had weapons, and police vehicles surrounded the area

    YouTube employee Vadim Lavrusik posted on Twitter that he heard gunshots and saw people running. He said he was barricaded in a room with his co-workers before being safely evacuated.

  149. stackja

    Will Hudson said a friend who works for YouTube texted him about the shooter.
    “I think there might be a shooter in my building,” read one text. “The fire alarm went off so we started to evacuate and then people (started) running saying there was a shooter.”

    Northern California’s Stanford Hospital said it has received four to five patients, but a hospital spokeswoman did not have information on their conditions or their wounds.

    Google, which owns the world’s biggest online video website, posted on Twitter that the company is coordinating with authorities. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also said it responded to the shooting at YouTube’s suburban campus.

    The White House said President Donald Trump was briefed on a shooting and that officials were monitoring it.

    Hudson said his friend made it safely back to San Francisco and was in contact with his family. Hudson said he’s become used to hearing about gun violence but has never been so close to it before.

    “It just feels strange. It feels like it could really be anyone. That’s really the strangeness of it,” he said.

    Calls and emails to YouTube representatives seeking comment were not immediately returned.

  150. Tailgunner

    Tom, let’s watch the spin on these two incidents. Should be epic. Or will they both be memory holed post-haste?

  151. stackja

    To get to Perth can be nulla bore.

  152. Peter Castieau

    Tom,
    I just been watching some footage from Augusta. Are those black mats on the tee boxes to protect the surface until the tournament starts? I’ve never seen them before.

  153. The Barking Toad

    I.If travel is necessary motorists are advised to allow plenty of additional travel time.

    The Sydney Harbour Bridge lane setup will not be placed into the AM peak configuration until the police operation has finished.

    Take the advice of Derek & Clive:

    Jump, you fucker jump………

  154. areff

    I’m honoured, Rambler, at being named VC, but you should know my record with bat and ball is less than stellar.

    Top score: 3
    Wickets taken: 0
    Notable achievement: Bowling to Father Kearney in the nets as a 12-year-old and striking him in the testicles.
    Catches taken: 1. The batsman hooked, the ball hit my inside elbow, arm closed around it by reflex and he was out.

    With the exception of golf — a sport that sets the example to others by its tolerance for smoking and drinking — only diving ever appealed. No need to run pointlessly about the oval, lap after lap, nor any need to invest genuine extertion. Just climb the ladder and fall off. If done artlessly, not the slightest chance in the world of being selected for the school team and therefore obliged to give up a Saturday for inter-school competition.

    Sport is a wonderful, uplifting thing but best done by others.

  155. Delta A

    Another interesting item from The $Oz:
    Repeal key to freedom of faith
    A free-market think tank has rejected calls by churches for laws to protect religious freedoms, saying laws that threaten religious freedom should instead be repealed.

    The Catholic Church has called for religious freedoms to be enshrined in law, while church think tank Freedom of Faith has urged the creation of a Religious Freedom Act.

    But the Institute of Public Affairs’ director of policy, Simon Breheny, told the government’s Religious Freedom Review, chaired by Phillip Ruddock, this would be a mistake.

    “The law is not the friend of freedom,” Mr Breheny said, adding that religious freedom was a “bundle of rights”, encompassing freedom of thought, freedom of expression and freedom of worship. “It’s important that each of these rights is protected if religious liberty is to be given full expression,” Mr Breheny said.

    He said this should be done by dismantling laws that violated these freedoms, such as section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, which makes it illegal to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” on the basis of a person’s race or ethnic origin.

    The government tried to soften 18C, making it unlawful only to “harass” a person based on their race, but it failed to secure parliamentary support. “Religious freedom is inseparable from freedom of speech. Laws which restrict speech should be repealed,” Mr Breheny said.

    The inquiry was announced by Malcolm Turnbull last year to address concerns about religious freedom following the “yes” vote on same-sex marriage.

    BEN PACKHAM

  156. my record with bat and ball is less than stellar.

    It’s ok. I promise buy you a 5 wicket haul in your next match.

  157. stackja

    The Barking Toad
    #2677928, posted on April 4, 2018 at 9:17 am

    Police are expected to have a duty of care for the climber.

  158. Three of the Hart children are still missing.

    Get a child abuse conviction and leave the state and the school system.

    Meanwhile becoming LGBT parental pinups.

    Two white lesbians both aged 38 with six mixed race/African American adopted children as props.

    Were they given free rein because like the gay baby killer in the UK they were not subject to the rules like everyone else?

    Hart’s pulled kids out of public school in 2011 after child abuse conviction

  159. Armadillo

    With the exception of golf — a sport that sets the example to others by its tolerance for smoking and drinking

    Lawn bowls is the king of sports. Smoking, drinking and minimum walking. The bar is only metres away at any given time, and the beer is on tap. Sledging is actively encouraged, as is ball tampering. In fact, they even sell products behind the bar to assist (for example, Grippo).

    Golf is Lawn Bowls poor cousin.

  160. Tintarella di Luna

    Perth has been turning on the weather lately , glad you enjoyed your stay Tinta.

    Just gorgeous, I was wondering if you and a few of the cats had put in a good word with Hughie. Thanks Peter I have always enjoyed Perth and other parts of WA

  161. Armadillo

    Plus it’s also only $10 for about a 3 hour game. More money for beer (at club prices).

  162. Tintarella di Luna

    It was an exceptionally enjoyable experience listening to some crooner as the moon rose up among the glorious gum trees. Julio Iglesias I think was the performer.

    What an exquisite experience that would have been, certainly beats a crowded entertainment centre with the other 12,000

  163. areff

    At the Altona Bowling Club (the $12 Bowler Burger is the best-value feed in the West) smoking is not permitted on the greens. Intolerance everywhere you turn these days.

  164. Top Ender

    Let’s have welfare for all, says Di Natale

    What was that bloke’s name? Mac something? Fred Mack? Fred Raincoat?

    Doesn’t matter anyway. Hand out cash to all.

  165. Tintarella di Luna

    To get to Perth can be nulla bore.

    stackja, you are a card and should be dealt with, lookout for the Pun Police

  166. stackja

    Police: 2 women took turns driving drunk, causing crashes
    Associated Press Published 11:52 a.m. ET April 3, 2018

    HOBOKEN, N.J. — Authorities say two women were driving drunk when they separately caused numerous crashes involving parked vehicles.

    Hoboken police say the accidents occurred early Saturday.

    Responding officers found 23-year-old Janelle Green, of Newark, driving the vehicle, while 24-year-old Jamila Banks, of Alexandria, Virginia, was in the front passenger seat.

    After interviewing the women, authorities determined Banks had been driving and struck at least two parked vehicles before the pair switched places and Green hit at least two more vehicles.

    No injuries were reported in any of the crashes.

    Green and Banks are both charged with drunken driving in a school zone. It wasn’t known Tuesday if either woman has retained an attorney.

  167. Leigh Lowe

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.
    Where did the lezzo reference originate?

  168. Armadillo

    smoking is not permitted on the greens. Intolerance everywhere you turn these days.

    Of the 12 clubs in our district, smoking is definitely permitted. Some council numpty tried to suggest because it’s a “sporting ground”, it needed to be banned. Swiftly got told to fuck off. It’s private property.

  169. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2677941, posted on April 4, 2018 at 9:32 am
    To get to Perth can be nulla bore.

    stackja, you are a card and should be dealt with, lookout for the Pun Police

    Will they bring a punnet?

  170. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta is an IT sock puppet.

    Shucks, feelthebern’s opened the drawer.

  171. Tom

    Custard, I haven’t seen anyone using black mats on the range at Augusta this year — everyone is hitting balls off turf, as God intended.

    I’m glued to Ruperdink’s Masters Channel (Foxtel 507). Coming up at 9am AEST: Golf Channel’s “Live From The Masters”. Great value. My trivia of the day from yesterday’s edition: Bubba Watson*, who owns a candy store (aka lolly shop) in Pensacola, Florida, is on a sugar-free diet!
    _______________________________________________________________________
    *My tip to win his third this year as he has had his clubmaker knock up a putter out of two he liked and was untouchable on the greens inside 20 feet two weeks ago in Mexico City.

  172. Snoopy

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    Reassuring to learn that toxic masculinity is not out of the frame.

  173. Tailgunner


    Sarah and Jennifer Hart were found dead on Monday alongside three of their six adopted children after their their car plunged off a cliff in Westport, California

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-…ghter.html

    Here you go,L.L

  174. Tailgunner

    Just substitute “three of six” with six and “plunged off a cliff” with deliberately sped off cliff at 140 kph,no braking.
    Xunts.

  175. Leigh Lowe

    TG … I thought that the YouTube incident was being referred to as a Lezzo dispute.

  176. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #2677943, posted on April 4, 2018 at 9:34 am
    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.
    Where did the lezzo reference originate?

    Californians have a reputation nowadays.

  177. Tel

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    Enough is enough! How many lives lost before we take action and ban gender pronouns completely?!?

  178. Tintarella di Luna

    A friend has recently had cause to access centrelinks services.

    My first contact with that reprehensible organ of misery was in 2007. I had to attend to put in the forms for my severely disabled son’s disability support pension, which I was forced to do because I’d refused to do that, as far as I was concerned he was still at school, my family’s responsibility, and when my non-disabled son turned 16 I did not have to do anything different for him.

    So what did the bastards do to force my compliance? they cut off his health care card and I couldn’t afford to pay for the very expensive medication he was on for his rare epilepsy. My experience at that first attendance was absolutely demeaning, demoralising and dehumanising. The next was to convince that organ of misery that my son could not work, but that went better – I simply sent him in with the form, showed him where he had to go and watched the unfolding circus. Have not been back but if ever I do I’m prepared.

  179. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2677956, posted on April 4, 2018 at 9:56 am

    Good one, Mum!

  180. Tintarella di Luna

    Will they bring a punnet?

    Only if you’re in Victoria.

  181. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2677958, posted on April 4, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Will they bring a punnet?

    Only if you’re in Victoria.

    I’d best stay in NSW.

  182. Tintarella di Luna

    I’d best stay in NSW

    Very wise stackja but if tempted to visit take a huller for self-defence.

  183. Boambee John

    Armadillo at 0923

    Golf is Lawn Bowls poor cousin.

    The problem with lawn bowls is that the ball has a built in bias. Croquet is the way to go!

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What was that bloke’s name? Mac something? Fred Mack? Fred Raincoat?

    Doesn’t matter anyway. Hand out cash to all.

    These are the Greens, whose platform, until recently, included death duties.

  185. Hey JC, are you enjoying the Trump trade war?

  186. Baldrick

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    I do hope nobody at the Cat has just assumed the shooter and the intended victim’s gender.

  187. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2677960, posted on April 4, 2018 at 10:03 am
    I’d best stay in NSW

    Very wise stackja but if tempted to visit take a huller for self-defence.

    Nah! Not me.

  188. stackja

    The Latest: YouTube employee says he saw shooter, victim
    6 minutes ago

    SAN BRUNO, Calif. (AP) — The Latest on a shooting at YouTube headquarters (all times local):

    4:05 p.m.

    A YouTube employee says the fire alarm went off at the company’s headquarters in Northern California and workers didn’t realize it was an active shooting.

    Senior software engineer Zach Vorhies said he and others were calmly leaving the building when he saw a shooter in a courtyard yelling, “Come at me, or come get me.”

    Vorhies said he froze, then noticed a victim on his back with what looked like a gunshot wound to his stomach. Vorhies says an officer with an assault rifle then came through a security door.

    Authorities say a woman believed to be the shooter has died of a self-inflicted gunshot and four other people have been wounded.

    ___

    3:55 p.m.

    A YouTube employee says she saw a woman open fire at the company’s headquarters in Northern California.

    Dianna Arnspiger said she was on the second floor Tuesday when she heard gunshots, ran to the window and saw a woman firing a gun on a patio below.

    Arnspiger says she called out, “‘Shooter,’ and everybody started running.” She and others hid in a conference room for an hour while someone called 911 repeatedly for updates. She says, “it was terrifying.”

    Authorities say a woman believed to be the shooter has died of a self-inflicted gunshot and four other people have been wounded.

  189. max

    A “Senior Software Engineer” at Youtube just now on the radio describing his reaction when he heard news of the shooting:

    “I grabbed my electric skateboard and ……”

  190. lotocoti

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    This would never have happened if the NRA, with their fetish for responsible firearm ownership, had been banned.

  191. Tailgunner

    TG … I thought that the YouTube incident was being referred to as a Lezzo dispute.

    No,I just noted that it’s Girls Gone Wild! in Northern Cali/PNW in the last few days.
    Wamen. Every. Single. Time. h/t Stimpson.J.Cat

  192. Tintarella di Luna

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    When does the ban on boyfriends kick in?

  193. Tailgunner

    “I grabbed my electric skateboard and ……”

    Lol! Good one max.

  194. Polyamory: Complicated New Identity or Primarily About Sex?

    Excellent reading. Bugmen academicians are out there spreading their tendentious research in an attempt to now mainstream polyamory.

  195. H B Bear

    Perth has been turning on the weather lately , glad you enjoyed your stay Tinta.

    Late March and April is the best time of year in Perth. The furnace has been turned down to warm, the ocean is still warm and the howling easterly winds of summer disappear. The Town of Cambridge has thrown about $15m at City Beach and it is now one of the better beaches along the coast.

    Emperor Barney and the City of Stirling dumped about $55m at Scarborough, bankrupted a number of small businesses in the 2 year building phase and now it is back to its old self ie you cannot get a park on a beach day.

  196. Entropy

    m0nty
    #2677964, posted on April 4, 2018 at 10:08 am
    Hey JC, are you enjoying the Trump trade war?

    Monty, you should be looking at the new opportunities to make money. If you think JC is wrong, why not find out what JC is doing, and do the opposite?
    You know it makes sense!

  197. Gab

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    Oh well then all is forgiven because a male CAUSED her triggering #metoo

    Any hysterics from the left over gun rights today?

  198. Senile Old Guy

    Andrew Bolt:

    Like too many journalists, Miranda Devine dismisses the Monash group’s plan for more coal-fired electricity generation simply because it includes Tony Abbott, a rival of the Prime Minister she so desperately supports:

    This is the tragedy of the relentless Abbott insurgency. It poisons every legitimate conservative issue.

    Yet isn’t it Devine who’s poisoning the issue with her hatred of Abbott?

    She mocks the Monash group by claiming it’s been shunned by MPs with real concerns about keeping coal generation going:

    The numbers of MPs in the Monash Forum are unknown… The only confirmed signings are the usual suspects among the tiny delcon

    Yet again, the “delcon”.

    The “delcon” elected Trump, rejected Brexit and reduced Lord Waffle to a one seat majority.

    Is there any chance that the MSM will stop mocking and abusing a major part of the voting population?

    Thought not.

    And, of course, there is the continued bashing of Tony Abbott; the man who, despite being continually trashed by the MSM, won an election in the biggest landslide in recent history. This is why the MSM are utterly irrelevant; and why they will continue to become even more irrelevant in the future.

  199. What’s in a Name?

    Jennifer Finney Boylan, who writes for The New York Times on “family life, parenting, LGBT issues,” launched into a screed against Ryan Anderson’s new book, When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment. The column denounced the book as “abundant in junk science,” suggesting it was the result of his “many minutes of meticulous research” and filled with a multitude of “things to break your heart in this book.”

    Why pursue a reasoned argument when a few derisive comments and ad hominem attacks will do? Why ask how “scientific” it is to deny that a person is constituted sexually down to every single cell in his body when you have philosophically concluded that “gender” is but a state of mind? Why discuss the ethical nature of administering drugs to suppress puberty, whose effects on developing teenage bodies cannot be known unless you are first willing to experiment on the subject to find out? (Or unless you have decided that, since somatic functioning can be trumped by a state of mind, it doesn’t matter?) Why ask whether allowing a minor to have a mastectomy of healthy breasts and mutilation of healthy genitalia represents good medicine, unless you have first decided that any intervention in the reproductive system is justified by wish fulfillment, not any objective standard of healthy somatic function?

    RTWT. And a reminder, Ryan Anderson will be promoting his new book in Australia this month.

  200. Boambee John

    From Spiked


    Identity politics is becoming more depraved by the day. Now it seems even light-skinned black people must atone for their privilege. Amandla Stenberg, a 19-year-old black actress, recently revealed that she stopped pursuing a role in the recent Black Panther film because she felt it deserved a more ‘dark-skinned’ cast.

    Seems that Bolt might still come out the winner. “Light skinned” “people of colour” are now targets for having “privilege”. Larissa Behrendt was not available for comment.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Peter
    47 minutes ago

    You have to admire the Labor hypocrites in the way they negotiate the media scrum. Abbott presents Phil with a knighthood, and the media attacks him for weeks. Known Republican, Beazley, accepts the governors role, and gets applause from the media. Who are the real hypocrites here?

    Comment, over at the Oz, on Kim Beazley becoming State Governor of Western Australia.

  202. Harlequin Decline

    The Town of Cambridge has thrown about $15m at City Beach and it is now one of the better beaches along the coast.

    Heading over to Perth at the end of the week for a few commitments and will be down City Beach way for a birthday celebration. Good to hear the weather is holding up. Also planning to visit a person out Popanyinning way. I haven’t seen him for 50+ years since we were growing up together out in he bush.

  203. H B Bear

    YouTube shooter reported to be triggered by a dispute with her boyfriend.

    Toxic femininity or equal opportunity gun violence?

  204. I notice that the event location in Melbourne and Sydney is TBA. That is the state of affairs of our public discourse right now. A lecture defending sex as an embodied condition, as opposed to cultural assigned one, requires its location to remain private for the time being.
    Thank you, urban bugman.

  205. The Barking Toad

    New Fred kiddies

  206. Anthony

    Has Mueller completely lost his way? Or did he never have a road map?

  207. old bloke

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2677902, posted on April 4, 2018 at 8:38 am

    A couple of Margaret River favourites are Leeuwin Estate and Vasse Felix, absolute gems with more than wines besides.

    Tinta, next time you’re in the Margaret River region, here’s another two wineries worth visiting:

    The Berry Farm – they make and sell a variety of fruit and berry wines, some of which are very nice (I like their plum port). Have a Devonshire tea when you visit but be prepared to share your scones with some very cheeky splendid fairy wrens who will make themselves at home on your table.

    Woody Nook – it’s a small vineyard but they sell a nice port. It’s called Nooky Delight, with a picture of an amorous couple on the label.

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