Wednesday Forum: April 4, 2018

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  1. Rae

    Like the Twin Otter, the DC3 just friggin rocks under load and in tough circumstances.

    Surely you jest. The Twin Otter is a lemon. Didn’t the Australian army get rid of the fucking thing because it was a brick that was prone to crashing?

    The Nomad was the one that was prone to crashing, wasn’t it? Australian Army, NSW Air Ambulance and Royal Flying Doctor had bad experiences with them.

    Twin Otters are still in use in the USA. We flew from Las Vegas over the Grand Canyon in a 19 seater. Landed in Grand Canyon City for lunch, then flew back in a thunderstorm without any dramas.

  2. Muddy

    In more important news, anthropologists in Central Australia have unearthed the fossilised remains of a cheese slice between two flat rocks, making it the oldest known sandwich grill in history. Early dating suggests the appliance to be at least 165,000 years old and the cheese to have been a product of dingo milk.

  3. Tom

    Good grief, Jupes. Please don’t confuse the Nomad with the Twin Otter — probably the most commercially successful regional aircraft under 10 tonnes maximum takeoff weight ever built over the past 50 years — so successful that the Viking aircraft company of Canada has started building new ones under licence after De Havilland abandoned it. Slow as a wet weak and exactly what is required for communities, like those in PNG and the Torres Strait, that have only grass paddocks as suitable landing areas.

  4. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    FSB dealing with muslim terrorists

  5. Gab

    ‘It tastes better when there’s no halal stamp’: Outspoken Muslim sheikh posts video of himself eating chocolates without the Islamic certification – after companies quietly stopped paying the fees
    Mohammad Tawhidi shared video of himself eating non-halal certified chocolate
    The Adelaide man said it ‘tasted better’ when there was no halal stamp
    It comes after companies quietly begin to stop paying the certification fees

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4706082/Adelaide-Imam-Tawhidi-eats-chocolates-halal-certification.html#ixzz5BsmN8JfX

  6. Heavy duty casting – at 1.10 a bloke in full heat gear is picking up white hot castings in his hands an moving them to somewhere else.


  7. egg_

    RESOURCES Minister Matt Canavan toured the Liddell power station on Friday, conceding it needed work to bring it up to scratch but urging owner AGL to ‘put a for sale sign’ on the controversial asset.

    As the main speaker at the launch of this year’s Hunter Coal Festival, the senator’s visit to the Hunter had been locked in for months. The political scrum over Liddell heightened interest in his visit, and it was a near full-house in Club Singleton, where a group of Lock The Gate protesters had gathered to make their views heard and seen.

    Addressing the media before making his speech, Senator Canavan defended the government contacting energy company Alinta to encourage it to bid for Liddell, saying the government was “always trying to attract investment into Australia, and a lot of that comes from overseas”.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    … has started building new ones under licence after De Havilland abandoned it. Slow as a wet weak …

    Speaking of slow Canadian aircraft, I did hear of a Caribou pilot once complaining of multiple birdstrikes in flight … into the rear cargo door.

  9. H B Bear

    While Qantas would not comment on its conversations with Rugby Australia other than to say it was disappointed with Folau’s post, it is understood that executives have made it known they will not tolerate more controversial statements regarding homosexuality.

    QANTAS – the airborne wing of the Gaystapo.

  10. Tintarella di Luna

    “There can be no doubt that he is a threat to the public interest and a threat to the public order,” Delamere said.

    Goodness me the thought police will be around next. We really are in a time not dissimilar to the Spanish Inquisition with the prevailing religion followed by the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence having a stanglehold on speech next it will be thought. And Delamerde a lawyer ‘n’ all.

  11. Tailgunner

    Why can’t we start a Catallaxy based troll party?
    We could go full God-Emperor Trump style in the next election. Use the MSM for free publicity with our common sense, extreme right wing views.
    Better than whining into the ether to each other here.
    If some are prepared to stick their heads above the parapet and take the Marxists on…
    It’ll be hilarious!

  12. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Does my neck look fat in these pants?

  13. I’m surprised Sanatarium were paying for halal certification.

    It’s vegetarian, by definition it would be halal.

    I suppose they were running the parallel health inspection/ fit for muslim consumption part with them.

  14. Tel

    Ƶĩppʯ #2680231: FSB dealing with muslim terrorists

    I think some of that housing might not be 100% up to code.

  15. marcus classis

    Thanks Winston, good video!

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    They allege the subjectivity of flight evaluations and the utter lack of diversity in fighter aviation contribute to an atmosphere of implicit or unconscious bias that leaves minority aviators on the margin at a greater disadvantage than their white counterparts.

    Very hard for a merit based service like fighter aviation to not have one group succeed overwhelmingly if there’s a skillset advantage. If fighter piloting was like American football most of the pilots would be black. Actually fighter piloting is like one facet of American football – quarterbacks. Situation awareness, strategy & tactics, flexibility and decision-making ability would be common to both. And most quarterbacks are white, although there are indeed some excellent African-American ones like Cam Newton and Robert Griffin III.

    This article I saw recently is interesting:

    In another first, Afghan pilots are now dropping laser-guided bombs (27 Jan)

    Afghan Air Force pilots recently had another leap in capabilities: they employed laser-guided bombs from their A-29 Super Tucano light-attack aircraft, according to officials involved in NATO’s Resolute Support mission.

    That is a fine achievement. But they are using A-29s not USAF or USMC platforms and they’ve only been able to do air support since 2017.

    So it took from 2002 until 2017 before an obviously desperately needed service arm of the Afghan defence forces was ready to be deployed. Basically enough time to start with kindergarten kids and train them. Which might just be what was required in the end.

    That may shed some tangential light on why so few African-Americans are fighter pilots.

  17. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    While Qantas would not comment on its conversations with Rugby Australia other than to say it was disappointed with Folau’s post, it is understood that executives have made it known they will not tolerate more controversial statements regarding homosexuality.

    A FORMER POSTER GIRL AND FLIGHT ATTENDANT FOR QANTAS HAS MADE SHOCKING ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE AIRLINE, CLAIMING SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS ‘RAMPANT’ IN THE INDUSTRY.

    the ironing in action

  18. Muddy

    Tailgunner
    #2680240, posted on April 6, 2018 at 8:29 pm
    Why can’t we start a Catallaxy based troll party?
    We could go full God-Emperor Trump style in the next election. Use the MSM for free publicity with our common sense, extreme right wing views.
    Better than whining into the ether to each other here.
    If some are prepared to stick their heads above the parapet and take the Marxists on…
    It’ll be hilarious!

    I suggested something vaguely similar a year or two ago:
    Call the party FRINFRE = Far Right Is Not Far Right Enough.
    We could be incredibly vague with details (just have slogans) and allow the feral media and others to ‘fill in the gaps.’
    I also like claiming to be proud of being a dribbling redneck (which I define differently to others of course). The idea there is to dilute a derogatory label like ‘racist’ or ‘redneck.’
    I’m in, but behind the scenes – I have a great head for radio, but a devious mind.

    The alternative would be to go further left. Much further left. That could be a lot of fun.

  19. calli

    “There can be no doubt that he is a threat to the public interest and a threat to the public order,” Delamere said.

    Folau is in good company then.

    Some things never change.

  20. Tom

    Leigh Lowe, the Carribou has been my favourite military aircraft ever since I saw an RAAF pilot at an air show 30 years walking one along the main runway at Darwin airport/AFB … on its front landing wheel, with only reverse thrust keeping it airborne. Best party trick I ever saw.

  21. Baldrick

    Should we ask our resident neurosurgeon/tax QC/cruise director/aerodynamicist?

    No need to ask. I’m sure it’ll tell us.

  22. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A mother of four who campaigns against “gender identity” ideology claims she was threatened with arrest and banned from leaving the UK after saying transgender women are “castrated” men.

  23. Gab

    transgender women are “castrated” men.

    Most of them are. That is a fact.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    Beat me egg.
    Ha ha.
    Get it?

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks egg. The Caribou – aka the “Flying gravel truck.”

  26. Leigh Lowe

    If Issy Folau is a threat to your society, maybe it is time to take a good hard look at your society.

  27. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A large scale anti-terror operation by Italian authorities has netted several ISIS terrorists who authorities believe were planning to attack Rome. Italy’s Interior ministry says “Rome is in the crosshairs of ISIS” and “Italy’s terror threat has never been so high.”

    Five persons were arrested in the sweep and 20 are under investigation. Police were tipped off to the network by analyzing the cell phone of Anis Amri, the attacker at the Berlin Christmas market in 2016. Four days after the attack, Amri was killed in a shootout with police near Milan in northern Italy.

  28. egg_

    the Carribou has been my favourite military aircraft

    +1

    As discussed with Tony N.

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    EXCLUSIVE: Mother rorted $200,000 from Centrelink by pretending her dead baby was alive for 15 YEARS – and now insists she did nothing wrong

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5584525/Centrelink-cheat-denies-doing-wrong-claiming-dead-baby-alive.html#ixzz5BsvMJKWS
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  30. egg_

    The Aussie uprated engines were bloody noisy, too.

  31. Rugby Australia has had to balance outcry from the general public

    Rubbish.
    A large proportion of commentators at The Oz article are strongly in favour of Folau, free speech, and/or are anti-Joyce.

  32. egg_

    Hehe, missed the double post with Zippy this morning – had to reboot Win @#$%! 10.

  33. Oh come on

    Seems to me that there are a lot of prominent YouTube conservatives who wouldn’t mind going postal in YouTube HQ, but their sanity prevents them from doing so. YouTube puts itself out there as an outlet for free expression. When it ceases to be so and arbitrarily clamps down on huge swathes of YouTubers – including a bunch of loonies – it ought not be surprised when its censorship provokes blowback from the genuinely insane who put great faith in the freedom they felt the platform afforded them.

  34. Eyrie

    You’ll want to talk about flat and square aircraft:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bede_BD-4
    Design will have its 50 years since first flight this August at Oshkosh. AND you can still buy a kit for one 50 years later.
    Truly a great little aircraft. Ask any owner.

  35. johanna

    calli
    #2680150, posted on April 6, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Suchet became a Christian after having time on his hands at a hotel and opening a Gideon’s bible at the letter to the Romans.

    Sneaky bible leaving Christians! Can’t trust ‘em.

    Tell me about it.

    I almost became a Mormon after a stint in a motel in Wyoming. In one bedside drawer was a Gideon Bible, and in the other was the Book of Mormon, which was riveting reading.

    Let me tell you, when you are alone in the middle of Wyoming without a book or TV, the Book of Mormon is hot stuff.

    Going back to discussions about The Divine Agatha, that dolt SOG seems to think that country parsons, retired colonels and the like were English the upper class. I repeat, he has obviously never read any Wodehouse, and is a literary and cultural illiterate.

    As for pooves and lezzos, they are here, there and everywhere in TDA’s novels. As a shrewd observer of life, she slipped them in because they existed, no more or less.

    Someone mentioned that the anti-s*mitic passages of her early novels have been edited out. I didn’t know that, fortunately I have early editions.

    Now to the Main Thing. Breitbart hosted a discussion about the power of Google, Facebook, Twitter and so on which is available here.

    Did you know that if you type in a draft email on g-mail, even if you never send it, it is recorded against your name?

    Did you know that Youtube and Google collect and sell your personal data – otherwise, how could they make money?

    This discussion (starts about 18 minutes in) is well worth a listen. Alex Marlow, Breitbart executive editor, a Jooish professor who says he is not a conservative but has hair-raising info about the tech giants, Ann Coulter, and Schweitzer, author of best selling books about the Clinton money trails.

    Put it on and listen while you are cooking dinner or whatever. This is brainfood, and it’s not at all boring. The participants are lively and funny and very, very bright and well informed.

    As they point out, stuff like this could be disappeared from the internet by a keystroke from our new rulers.

  36. Eyrie

    I got to fly a Caribou once, most of the way from Majimup to RAAF Pearce. Great fun.

  37. egg_

    Often wondered why GAF didn’t go with a couple of 331s or PT-6s over the converted helicopter engines? Would have been interesting to see how performance stacked up with better speced engines. Would the market have treated the Nomad differently with more reliable, more powerful engines?

    “Reliable Rolls Royce 250-B17F/1 Engines”?
    c/- PPRuNe

  38. Oh come on

    JC, do you think China would dare use the ‘nuclear option’, ie. dumping all their Treasury bonds? They don’t actually own that much US debt, relatively speaking – just over a trillion dollar’s worth and the US is nearly a $20 trillion economy!

    Seems to me that China dumping US treasuries would destroy the value of their asset – they surely can’t offload their US debt holdings without taking a substantial haircut on it. And yeah it’d probably cause chaos on the global bond market for a while. On the other hand, the Chinese state is essentially insolvent. Their debt is about 350% of their GDP. I don’t think they can afford to dump their most valuable foreign assets.

  39. egg_

    Should we ask our resident neurosurgeon/tax QC/cruise director/aerodynamicist?

    Doctor Sock?

  40. Bit unreasonable Johanna.

    Christie made something a speciality of country house mysteries with rather the same sort of inhabitants as a Wodehouse comedy.

    I doubt a retired colonel Blimp who went to even a no name public school would consider himself of the same class as a shopkeep who left school at 15.

    Plenty of titles in Christie novels too as SOG pointed out.

  41. Eyrie

    The Nomad was originally designed as a single engine turboprop with a PT-6. They chickened out and put two engines on it. If they had not they would have invented the Cessna Caravan decades before Cessna.

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Israel turns a corner on protecting its sovereignty
    Monday may have been a turning point in the global battle between the forces of nationalism and national self-determination on the one hand, and the forces pushing for a post-nationalist world with open borders on the other.

    As political philosopher Yoram Hazony, author of the soon-to-be-released book The Virtue of Nationalism, explains: “The international left has decided to wage war on the idea of borders and idea that states should be able to maintain and defend a unique national identity and heritage.

    “The very idea that Israel should be different from other nations is itself seen as troubling, so naturally any policy aimed at protecting such difference is condemned as morally wrong. Liberal imperialists who want to see all countries adopt the same cookie-cutter set of liberal values can’t help finding fault with what Israel is.”

    In Israel’s case, the anti-nationalist liberal imperialist coalition has four parts.

    First, and most importantly, there is the Israeli judiciary. In the 1990s, Israel’s then-Supreme Court President Aharon Barak undertook what he referred to as a “judicial revolution.” By applying radical interpretations to a series of basic laws Israel’s Knesset had naively passed in the early 1990s, Barak arrogated to the Court the right to abrogate laws that had been duly passed. He also coined the term “Everything is Justicible,” and effectively gave the Court the right to rule on any issue it wished by giving legal standing to any party it wished to hear.

    These two moves empowered a slew of radical leftist non-governmental organizations (NGOs), financed by foreign money, to petition the Court to overturn not only laws, but also government policies. Working hand-in-glove with these radical groups, over the past 25 years the Court has overruled government decisions and Knesset laws on everything from the Israeli military’s counterterrorism tactics; to the government’s right to conclude business deals with international corporations; to the government’s prerogative to select the military chief of general staff and the attorney general; to the government’s ability to enforce Israel’s immigration laws.

    The cumulative impact of this judicial tyranny has been the gutting of the powers of the Knesset and the government to fulfill their duty to advance the will of the voters.

    The second partner in this assault on Israel’s sovereignty is a consortium of radical, anti-Israel NGOs registered in Israel. Together and separately, they frequently petition the court against laws and government policies. Together and separately, they lobby foreign governments to oppose Israel, and run public campaigns in foreign countries to slander Israel and its right to self-determination.

    The third partner in the coalition is a consortium of far-left American Jewish groups led by a radical multi-million dollar foundation called the New Israel Fund. The New Israel Fund has been the subject of multiple investigative reports in Israel over the past 15 years. It has become shorthand for radical left political warfare against the state. The NIF supports the operations of Israeli NGOs that commit lawfare and political warfare against the state at home and abroad. According to Im Tirzu, Israel’s conservative student organization, NIF has donated $14.2 million to Israeli-registered NGOs that are campaigning against deporting the illegal migrants.

    In his press conference Monday, and in his later statements this week, Netanyahu allegedthat the NIF had lobbied European governments to pressure Rwanda to cancel its agreement with Israel to accept the deported migrants.
    In other words, the NIF stands accused of deliberately undermining the foreign policy of the government of Israel.

    When Netanyahu announced that he was abrogating his agreement with the UN, he called for the establishment of a parliamentary inquiry into the operations of the NIF.

    This, then brings us to the fourth partner in the coalition against Israeli sovereignty: the EU.

    According to Im Tirtzu, the governments of Europe and the EU have donated $16.2 million to the Israeli NGOs that ran the campaign against deporting the illegal aliens. And according to Netanyahu, the EU played a central role in forcing Rwanda to renege on its agreement to accept the deportees.

    Working together, over the past three years, the four sides of the anti-Israeli sovereignty coalition overturned all three laws the Knesset had passed mandating the expulsion of the illegal migrants, and they ran a worldwide campaign to demonize Israel for its efforts to deport them.

    But this week, the Rubicon was crossed. The public outcry against the deal was so immediate and so overwhelming that it forced two things to happen.

    First, Netanyahu cancelled the deal with the UN. Second, and far more significantly, Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon announced he will support a new law that bars the Supreme Court from overturning Knesset legislation on illegal immigration.

    Since Netanyahu formed his current government in 2015, Kahlon’s soft-right Kulanu party has blocked every effort to reform the judiciary. His announcement signals that the Court has lost its immunity from Knesset oversight for the first time.

    Following Monday’s events, many Israeli commentators have noted that the day’s drama made clear what the critical issue will be in next year’s general elections. The vote will not be about the Palestinians or the economy. The power of the court will be the decisive issue.

    And the party that convinces the public it will restore the balance of power between the three branches of government by checking the power of Israel’s Supreme Court will win.

  43. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2680220, posted on April 6, 2018 at 8:11 pm

    Meanwhile the AGL spiv in chief claims that closing Liddell will bring down power prices.

    The stupidest time in human history.

    He’s lying. He knows it won’t and will do the opposite.

  44. Gab

    Interesting fact. The list of US Presidents who owned slaves were mostly Democrats.

    Three exceptions were: Washington – no political affiliation, Taylor – Whig and Grant – Republican (who owned one slave and freed him rather than sell him despite financial troubles).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves

  45. Roger.

    I almost became a Mormon after a stint in a motel in Wyoming. In one bedside drawer was a Gideon Bible, and in the other was the Book of Mormon, which was riveting reading. Let me tell you, when you are alone in the middle of Wyoming without a book or TV, the Book of Mormon is hot stuff.

    Isolating a prospective convert from family and friends has always been a tactic of cults, you know.

  46. johanna

    Notafan, titles in TDA’s books were mostly baronets, often conferred on merit (like the retired boss of Scotland Yard.)

    Baronets are the lowest level of titles.

    Anyone who seriously suggests that TDA’s books were about the English upper class has never read or seen Brideshead Revisited, or any books by Wodehouse.

  47. JC

    JC, do you think China would dare use the ‘nuclear option’, ie. dumping all their Treasury bonds? They don’t actually own that much US debt, relatively speaking – just over a trillion dollar’s worth and the US is nearly a $20 trillion economy!

    It depends on whether they want to act rationally or behave irrationally.

    Rational means they wouldn’t try to dump the bonds because it would hurt them too. Irrational is obviously something different.

    My guess is that they want to behave in a rational manner.

    Seems to me that China dumping US treasuries would destroy the value of their asset – they surely can’t offload their US debt holdings without taking a substantial haircut on it. And yeah it’d probably cause chaos on the global bond market for a while. On the other hand, the Chinese state is essentially insolvent. Their debt is about 350% of their GDP. I don’t think they can afford to dump their most valuable foreign assets.

    True. Very.

    I think and hope the Trump position is one of posturing and my hunch is that it is. Clearly, the US has a point. The rules that applied 20/30 years ago applied to a China that was basically a buckshop non entity. It’s not now with an economy that is ~US$11 trillion.

    They need to open up more.

  48. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Israel turns a corner on protecting its sovereignty
    Monday may have been a turning point in the global battle between the forces of nationalism and national self-determination on the one hand, and the forces pushing for a post-nationalist world with open borders on the other.

    RTWT

  49. JC

    Zipper

    What is you model for an ideal world? Explain your position.

  50. Tom

    He’s lying. He knows it won’t and will do the opposite.

    The news media used to protect the public interest. Now it is a lapdog of what the Mao’s Chinese Communist Party would have called corrupt crony capitalist roaders. This is sure to end well.

  51. A friend of mine has a book called Oasphe similar to the book of Mormon, produced in a remarkably similar manner too.

    Must have been a thing in the US during the 19th century.

    Don’t know how any modern intelligence educated person could have fallen for the many obvious errors in the book of Mormon.

    oahspe

    problems with the book of Mormon

  52. calli

    Tom Adams’ Christie covers for Fontana Books were wonderful. He had a lot of fun with them, never giving anything away. Once the last page is read, you can go back to the cover and all is revealed. As Poirot would say, “there were certain indications…”.

    There is a collection of his covers in this book. The artist gives an insight into composition and the Publisher’s demands, including significant cropping. It’s out of print, but for Christie fans is worth every cent.

  53. Geriatric Mayfly

    Isolating a prospective convert from family and friends has always been a tactic of cults, you know.

    Out of courtesy, informed the local landowners of our intention to fish the magnificent Haupiri River in NZ. which in parts winds through their property. My first ever encounter with a cult. Women in bonnets and drapes to the ankle; men in blue pants uniforms. As permission was graciously granted, and I caught some cracker trout, I will say no more. But Google will inform you of the Cooperites, and the Gloriavale community.

  54. Snoopy

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2680298, posted on April 6, 2018 at 9:34 pm
    Israel turns a corner on protecting its sovereignty

    Please make it so.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    The First Commandment of fishing broken.
    Divulging even the vaguest reference to a prime fishing spot.
    I wonder.
    Were they brown trout?
    Or red herrings?

  56. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    JC that’s a rather broad question.

  57. John Constantine

    “An onerous contract position”

    AAC, the once was cattle ranch describes the locked in and committed to ‘circumstances’ to do with running their meatworks as onerous.

    Dropped 65 million bucks meatworking instead of just grazing in the last twelve months.

    The mcgauchie method strikes again.

    The loss was a shock, given that industry wide all consultants are pushing for similar focus on consumer whims over obsolete practises.

    The Australian agricultural company assures shareholders that the coming U-turn away from the recent reinvention of the company will produce solid 5 million dollar a year returns.

    Just a pity about the onerous maaates contracts the consultants put them into.

    Comrades.

    [ haven’t held AAC since they proudly announced they were betting the farm on mcgauchies consultants bold new vision]

    http://www.farmonline.com.au/story/5323013/livingstone-abattoir-under-review-as-aaco-tips-earnings-loss/

  58. JC

    We’ll narrow it. And summarise your most important views and why?
    First off you don’t appear to support the free market, but I could be wrong in forming this opinion.

  59. C.L.

    I see Britain has refused a Russian request for an independent, UN-sponsored examination of the alleged nerve agent attack. Mmm.

  60. Geriatric Mayfly

    The First Commandment of fishing broken.
    Divulging even the vaguest reference to a prime fishing spot.

    Like most NZ rivers it is a hard slog LL. Long stretches of unfishable water to be bypassed, quadrilions of boulders to trip on, hairy crossings in swift currents – shall I go on? Covering more than 3km with the fly in one day would be stretching things to the limit. It’s not the name of the of the river that counts; as always it’s position, position position. Therein, the secret remains inviolate.

  61. JC

    John C I traded that stock ages ago. I got out at a small loss because I thought management didn’t know what the fuck they were doing or going on.

  62. C.L.

    Don’t know how any modern intelligence educated person could have fallen for the many obvious errors in the book of Mormon.

    My favourite Mormon yarn is the magic spectacles.

    Should have gone to Specsavers.

  63. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    First off you don’t appear to support the free market, but I could be wrong in forming this opinion.

    I am all for free markets, but there’s free and there’s china. Even as far back as 12 years ago I knew small businesses manufacturing in china and getting ripped off.

    china needs to be punished and made to pay realistic compensation.

  64. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’m all for virtual property rights, the more the better. property is wealth and virtual property is effectively infinite so that’s a no-brainer

  65. johanna

    Thanks, calli.

    I have a copy of The Murder of Roger Ackroyd with the original cover (reproduced.) It is one of the best whodunits ever.

    I’ve been doing an anaysis of her novels about family structures, and what stands out is how rarely she writes about traditional nuclear families. We have multiple marriages, lots of nephews and nieces, widows and widowers, etc.

    Mum, Dad and kidlets are noticeably absent.

    TDA knew instinctively something … ?

  66. John Constantine

    https://www.beefcentral.com/news/agribusiness/how-the-asxs-beef-stocks-fared-in-2017/

    Their mcgauchie announces in this that tough but highly considered decisions were made and excellence is being ensured in the execution of the strategy.

    The utter failure of john howard to promote and protect people that would do good for Australia instead of …………

    Their howard gave us turnbull, rudd and mcgauchie, amongst others.

  67. Well I’ve read all, Johanna and as SOG and others said already and provided evidence for upthread Christie’s books were about upper middle and upper class persons as the main characters.

    She grew up in a big (upper middle class rich family) house in the country and it is no surprise that many of her stories are set in the same.

    I can only imagine telling Hercule Poirot that he is a member of the middle class.

    someone else who considers her characters to be upper class.

  68. Tel

    I’m all for virtual property rights, the more the better. property is wealth and virtual property is effectively infinite so that’s a no-brainer

    Patents only cover “property” in as much as they allow a claim on real products, and those are not infinite. The problem is that broad patents are approved and they last a long time, thus you have many claims on a single product… which in some cases might make that product not even viable to sell. Software patents have quite frankly been a nightmare, things like flashing cursors have been patented.

  69. Robber Baron

    More on the federal redistribution at The Age

    Libs need to win seats from Labor just to hold government. Is Maol capable of winning seats? We know the answer to that.

    Prime Minister Shorten. We need to get used to hearing that. It is a certainty.

  70. Agatha as ‘modern family’ seer.

    Whatever next?

    Perhaps she merely reflects the toll of the Great war and life before antibiotics.

    Besides which it might all be just to make the plot work.

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    I see Britain has refused a Russian request for an independent, UN-sponsored examination of the alleged nerve agent attack. Mmm.

    The UN? Independent?? LOL…

    Anyway they may have only 100 micrograms or so – whatever they could get off the doorknob after it was handled by at least three people. Minus whatever they put through the GCMS, since that may use only a tiny sample, but is a destructive testing method.

    That’s the idea of using such an agent – there just isn’t enough mass of stuff to recover, so you can’t do isotope mapping or impurity fingerprinting to find the manufacturing site.

  72. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    The Fake News Washington Post, Amazon’s “chief
    lobbyist,” has another (of many) phony headlines, “Trump Defiant As China Adds Trade Penalties.” WRONG! Should read, “Trump Defiant as U.S. Adds Trade Penalties, Will End Barriers And Massive I.P. Theft.” Typically bad reporting!

  73. calli

    The Murder of Roger Ackroyd was the first TDA I ever read.

    Nuclear families had limited scope perhaps, although they drive the plot in The Hollow and Crooked House. It’s either too much family or too little.

  74. At least no-one will ever try to argue that Dorothy L Sayers main characters are not intended to represent members of the upper classes.

  75. Snoopy

    Just another Chicom free trade scamp.

    WASHINGTON — A Chinese scientist who was working at a Kansas biopharmaceutical research facility will spend more than 10 years in federal prison for swiping a variety of genetically engineered rice seeds.

    Weiqiang Zhang, 51, a Chinese national and U.S. legal permanent resident residing in Manhattan, Kansas, was convicted on Feb. 15, 2017, of one count of conspiracy to steal trade secrets, one count of conspiracy to commit interstate transportation of stolen property and one count of interstate transportation of stolen property.

  76. calli

    Poirot came to Styles as a WWI refugee. Ex policeman. But he finished his career moving in exalted circles. I think his ethics would have been called “middle class”, in fact I’m pretty sure there’s something to that effect in one of the stories.

    He “disapproved of murder”. 🙂

  77. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Prime Minister Shortenfilth. We need to get used to hearing that. It is a certainty.

    truth in j’ism

  78. Indolent

    Here’s another one –

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏@realDonaldTrump
    8 minutes ago

    Despite the Aluminum Tariffs, Aluminum prices are DOWN 4%. People are surprised, I’m not! Lots of money coming into U.S. coffers and Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Prime Minister Shorten. We need to get used to hearing that. It is a certainty.

    I’m resigned to at least two terms of a Shorten/Plibersek Government. The borders will be reopened, the people smugglers will be back in business and the taxation policy based purely on the politics of envy, and “taxing the rich until their eyes bleed.” The economy will be reduced to such a smoking shambles that no future Government will ever be able to restore it. Australia, you’re standing in it.

  80. calli

    Just watching a celebration of male “privilege” – “A Bridge Too Far”. Not a single female in sight.

    Shocking.

  81. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    where’s them euroweenies in the pile on?
    China’s Running Out of U.S. Imports to Target

  82. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2680335, posted on April 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    Just watching a celebration of male “privilege” – “A Bridge Too Far”. Not a single female in sight.

    Shocking.

    Just swoon back onto the Laura Ashley two-seater and call for the smelling salts.

  83. 132andBush

    Prime Minister Shorten. We need to get used to hearing that. It is a certainty.

    The majority of people deserve nothing less.
    It’s a pity the turnbuckle coalition team won the last one.

  84. Gab

    Just swoon back onto the Laura Ashley two-seater and call for the smelling salts.

    And say “oh fiddle-de-dee!”

  85. Zatara

    London knife crime worsens – Seven stabbed including SIX in 90 minutes

    A man in his 20s was stabbed in Walthamstow around lunchtime, before a 15-year-old was knifed on East India Dock Road at 5.30pm and three men – two just 15 years old – were attacked in Grove Road, Mile End just over half an hour later.

    At 6.57pm a 13-year-old boy was rushed to hospital in a critical condition after being stabbed in Newham, before a man in his late teens was attacked less than ten minutes later in Ealing Broadway – taking the grim total of victims to seven.

    So will the Knifemakers Guild be as vilified as the NRA now?

  86. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    warm cognac & chilled music

  87. calli

    Last time I swooned was from sunstroke.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    alli

    #2680346, posted on April 6, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    Last time I swooned was from sunstroke

    Well, sugah, yo shoulda worn yo bonnet out to the plantation.
    I tole yo but yo never pay no never mind to what ah says.

  89. Nick

    Strange that the Left, who talk about Trump being ‘responsible’ for all sorts of ills, can’t find any leader they can call responsible for the upsurge in stabbing sin London. It’s a strange silence.

  90. Oh come on

    JC: I think that’s true. It’s interesting – the Chinese government’s debt is enormous. Many people argue that it’s virtually all locally owned debt so it doesn’t matter. This is wrong, in my opinion. The Chinese government has been raiding the enormous pool of savings in Chinese banks to fund their deficit spending. And there’s a lot of money in the banking system – IIRC the Chinese savings rate is north of 15% of the average income.

    So the Chinese govt has run up and continues to run up a debt with its own people that it can never repay. Fine, who cares, a dictatorship rips off its own people, so what. Thing is that the Chinese savings rate is so high because its people are saving because there is no welfare state of any substance, and there isn’t likely to be. Ultimately its people will need to rely on their savings, but all they’ll find is a bunch of worthless CCP IOUs. This would normally result in massive rebellion, former despots hanging from lampposts etc.

    What’s interesting is that it seems to me the Chinese government is betting that it can develop a technological capacity to prevent many or most of its citizens from overthrowing it, even if they are highly motivated to do so. This would appear to be an unprecedented feat, if the ChiComs can pull it off.

  91. Nick

    Can you imagine them filming Gone with the wind, today? The sneaky, black housekeeper would become an elderly white male.

  92. BrettW

    Calli mentioned white privilege in A Bridge Too Far. In recent Chris Hemsworth movie 12 Strong story was about a 12 man team that entered Afghanistan 5 weeks after 9/11. Team in movie featured a Mexican and an African American whereas real team was all white. However the team members, apart from Hensworth and his 2 i/c, were not named after the real guys. As they say “based on real events”.

  93. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just watching a celebration of male “privilege” – “A Bridge Too Far”. Not a single female in sight.

    “A Bridge Too Far” is a very fine “shootemup” but, when it was released in Perth, the local branch of the “Red Beret’s” Association said it differed quite markedly from the facts. I will pay Sean Connery as General Urquhart, and Gene Hackman as the Polish General Sosabrowski, but the Browning family were furious at the Dirk Bogarde portrayal of “Boy” Browning. The incident of the British tanks “stopping for tea” at Nijmegan, and not pushing up the road to Arnhem is hotly disputed by the actual participants.

    I’ve walked that battlefield, and it’s a rather moving experience, particularly considering what was such a gamble came so close to succeeding.

  94. Boambee John

    calli
    #2680335, posted on April 6, 2018 at 10:24 pm
    Just watching a celebration of male “privilege” – “A Bridge Too Far”. Not a single female in sight.

    Shocking.

    Later in the movie, a Dutch lady played by Liv Ullman is asked by a Dutch doctor helping with British casualties if some wounded can be moved into her house. The end shows her and her children walking away from her ruined former home, the front garden of which has been converted into a graveyard.

  95. Rae

    Should we ask our resident neurosurgeon/tax QC/cruise director/aerodynamicist polymath?

    It’s a shame that Neil Timson, with “30 years in tax” was so taken with his own self importance a couple of nights ago. After telling the plodders here where his name could be found in “the Blue Journal” he proved himself incapable of stating a straightforward matter, viz. the effect of Labors proposed change to the treatment of imputation credits. Spent his pixels instead grandstanding to those same plodders.

  96. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Ultimately its people will need to rely on their savings, but all they’ll find is a bunch of worthless CCP IOUs.

    fiat currency, not going to happen.

  97. Boambee John

    Gene Hackman as the commander of the Polish Parachute Brigade adds a lot to the movie. One of his arguments with Browning, played in oily manner by Dirk Bogarde, is used to skewer Browning.

    The bit near the end, when the casualties left behind are being gathered at the former British HQ, to await collection by tge Germans is quite moving. What sounds like the wounded groaning with pain gradually morphs into them singing Abide With Me.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    Spoiler alert on Bridge Too Far!

  99. Snoopy

    What’s interesting is that it seems to me the Chinese government is betting that it can develop a technological capacity to prevent many or most of its citizens from overthrowing it, even if they are highly motivated to do so. This would appear to be an unprecedented feat, if the ChiComs can pull it off.

    Only Xi can do it. That’s why they removed presidential term limits.

  100. Boambee John

    Leigh Lowe
    #2680359, posted on April 6, 2018 at 10:54 pm
    Spoiler alert on Bridge Too Far!

    I suspect that Calli is aware that the Germans won that one!

  101. Boambee John

    PS Would a film be made these days showing wounded soldiers singing Abide With Me, or any other hymn?

  102. calli

    I could’ve sworn it was Custer’s Berserkers.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Later in the movie, a Dutch lady played by Liv Ullman is asked by a Dutch doctor helping with British casualties if some wounded can be moved into her house

    Katie Ter Horst the “Angel of Arnhem.” She narrated the opening scenes of “A Bridge too Far” in English – was going to be one of the leading lights of the fiftieth commemoration of the battle in 1994, but, sadly died when she was run over by a car who mounted the footpath just outside her house in 1992. The driver may, or may nor have been drunk.

  104. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Only Xi can do it. That’s why they removed presidential term limits.

    Xi has been doing a competition …er corruption purge for a while now. Obviously now free of any hindrance to absolute rule. The pervasive tentacles of the chicoms and the top down corruption keeps the pecking order.

    It does highlight quite clearly the gormless patheticism of the chinese when a billion of them can’t unseat a few commies.

  105. Oh come on

    Zippy, no, that’s called hyperinflation. It obliterates savings.

  106. C.L.

    Hendo seems to have picked this up at the Cat (scroll to last item) …
    Brilliant understatement in that caption. No comment is needed, after all:

    That’s Louise Milligan in the middle, Magistrate Belinda Wallington on the left and Lyn Allison on the right. The photo was taken outside the ABC’s Southbank studio in Melbourne.

  107. Oh come on

    So they either find a bunch of worthless IOUs or a pile of money that won’t buy a grain of rice. Same result either way.

  108. JC

    Oh good, General Ronery is back onto military tourettes. One of the smartest most interesting people here. Whoever said she’s a gormless bore just didn’t know what he was talking about.

  109. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Zippy, no, that’s called hyperinflation. It obliterates savings.

    I think you are confused, unless they all want to withdraw at the same time, the fractional reserves are enough to keep things going just like any other country. Nothing will happen as far as debt goes. even if people want to make a run at a bank, the gov will simply stop it.

    When the GFC struck, everyone was saying similar stuff, china will crash. I said nothing will happen. nothing happened. why? fake markets, fake banks, fake capitalism, fake freedom. it’s a communist dictatorship for crying out loud. if gov doesn’t permit it, it won’t happen.

  110. max

    For the Libs, winning the next election is of secondary importance.

    Keeping Abbott out of office is the main consideration.

  111. JC

    Look, Chinese living standards in the South and Beijing are approaching western levels. The Chinese economy isn’t some tin pot operation. In some ways the Chinese have more economic freedoms than we do. They are actually building coal plants to produce electricity whereas we ripping ours out. Lets not get carried away with a holier than thou attitude. That’s just one example. I know about political freedom, so if anyone wants to raise that, they can save the pixels, as it’s not what I’m talking about.

    In any event, a full scale trade war will fuck Australia royally, so I don’t understand why people are high fiving hoping this will occur.

  112. JC

    When the GFC struck, everyone was saying similar stuff, china will crash. I said nothing will happen. nothing happened. why? fake markets, fake banks, fake capitalism, fake freedom. it’s a communist dictatorship for crying out loud. if gov doesn’t permit it, it won’t happen.

    Stop with the stupid shit. The Soviet Union was very close to collapsing. Venezuela is collapsing before our eyes in real time. To suggest a dictatorship can prevent a collapse is silly.

    China is a political dictatorship and has a large part of its economy controlled by the state. We do too. 10% of Australian employment is by the state! Around 30% of the economy is state controlled or state influenced.

    In any event, China is an explicit dictatorship. Don’t pretend we’re a freedom loving people when you can be hauled in front of the court for speaking out about taboo subjects. As I said, stop acting holier than thou.

  113. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Look, Chinese living standards in the South and Beijing are approaching western levels.

    Let’s not get carried away, US per capita gdp is almost 10 times higher than china. Beijing was a shithole last time I was there.

    In some ways the Chinese have more economic freedoms than we do

    This is a myth. YOu can’t do anything without your appropriate paperwork and licensing and mandatory palm greasing.
    There is no freedom of movement, this is another myth. Russia has an internal “passport” to go anywhere internally. China has similar.

  114. Snoopy

    In any event, a full scale trade war will fuck Australia royally, so I don’t understand why people are high fiving hoping this will occur.

    How so?

  115. ZK2A;

    I’m resigned to at least two terms of a Shorten/Plibersek Government. The borders will be reopened, the people smugglers will be back in business and the taxation policy based purely on the politics of envy, and “taxing the rich until their eyes bleed.” The economy will be reduced to such a smoking shambles that no future Government will ever be able to restore it. Australia, you’re standing in it.

    I’m at that stage of life where I hope to live long enough to see the disaster unfold. while I sit on the front porch and cackle about the Good Old Days. And polish my machete collection.

  116. Arky

    Is this the most boring open thread ever?
    Agatha Christie.
    Jesus wept.
    Is everyone here my mother’s sock puppet?
    Is it 1978 again? Mum, I’m taking the dog for a walk.

  117. JC

    How so?

    If China’s growth rate slows down, how would this impact the Australian economy on the export side, do you think? The Australian dollar is commodity driven so the currency falls. If the currency falls our relative standard of living falls. Is this a good or bad thing?

  118. Leigh Lowe

    Arky

    #2680380, posted on April 6, 2018 at 11:31 pm

    Is this the most boring open thread ever?
    Agatha Christie.

    I tried to spice Agatha up a bit with suggestions of girl-on-girl action being rife in her novels but it didn’t fly.

  119. Arky

    Around 30% of the economy is state controlled or state influenced.

    ..
    40% and rising.

  120. Snoopy

    If China’s growth rate slows down,

    China’s growth is largely driven by exports. Presumably whatever China makes is stuff that has markets somewhere. If China makes less, others will make more using our exports to fill the gap.

  121. JC

    Let’s not get carried away, US per capita gdp is almost 10 times higher than china. Beijing was a shithole last time I was there.

    I wasn’t comparing the US, which is a very rich country, despite what the left says.

    This is a myth. YOu can’t do anything without your appropriate paperwork and licensing and mandatory palm greasing.

    Oh okay, how much paperwork goes into construction in Australia. How much paperwork for constructing a mine for instance. How much palm greasing goes on here between developers and the unions? You need just as much paperwork to open a small shop here and you have the ATO threatening and bullying business if they dare take in cash.

    Read Oriel’s pieces in the oz about how corrupt the construction business is in Australia.

    There is no freedom of movement, this is another myth. Russia has an internal “passport” to go anywhere internally. China has similar.

    Okay. We achieve that in different ways. We impose building code that makes it almost impossible for a young person to own a home in major Australian cities. You may not need a passport yet, you’re just fucked on the affordability side.

  122. Oh come on

    I think you are confused, unless they all want to withdraw at the same time,

    I’m not remotely confused. And they don’t all need to want to withdraw at the same time – it would only take a relatively small percentage of savers to lose confidence in the banks and seek to withdraw their funds to send the system into crisis. If the state can contain the spread of information, it could feasibly contain a systemic bank run to a significant and perhaps decisive extent. They are honing this kind of technology.

  123. Knuckle Dragger

    Collingwood by 24 points over Carlton.

    Just as God intended.

  124. Gab

    How much paperwork for constructing a mine for instance.

    Ten long years worth.

  125. JC

    China’s growth is largely driven by exports. Presumably whatever China makes is stuff that has markets somewhere. If China makes less, others will make more using our exports to fill the gap.

    Yea and if prices for products rise, you think that has no impact on demand around the world? Demand curves are no longer sloping, right? In fact they slope the opposite way. Raise prices as a result of production costs going up and demand increases. That’s a novel concept.

  126. Oh come on

    There is no freedom of movement, this is another myth. Russia has an internal “passport” to go anywhere internally. China has similar.

    Absolute nonsense. If you are no threat to the state, you can travel throughout most of China largely unimpeded. If you’re on the state’s radar as a troublemaker, you will find just about any journey…difficult.

  127. BrettW

    Oh look, JC and one of his almost daily Tourette’s posts. It is strange he did not notice all the other posts about the movie but only chose one to have a go at. Just one of the many examples of JC triggering himself over nothing.

  128. JC

    Presumably whatever China makes is stuff that has markets somewhere. If China makes less, others will make more using our exports to fill the gap.

    Lets see you build a Foxconn here, Snoop. you know it’s easy right, because everything those Chinese manufacture is really easy. You could have one in North Queensland.

  129. C.L.

    If China’s growth rate slows down, how would this impact the Australian economy on the export side, do you think?

    What about renewables and eco-tourism?

  130. Snoopy

    Yea and if prices for products rise, you think that has no impact on demand around the world?

    China isn’t the only country in the world with the capacity to make cheap stuff. I’m not saying there would be no flow-on effects, but I don’t think we’ll be “fucked royally”.

  131. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Stop with the stupid shit. The Soviet Union was very close to collapsing. Venezuela is collapsing before our eyes in real time. To suggest a dictatorship can prevent a collapse is silly.

    venezuala is not a communist dictatorship. Just a failed state. USSR was hollowed out by decades of socialism. The USSR was a walking 60s carcass by the 90s. . CHina on the other hand is still growing and no where near collapse, its rampant theft of IP has allowed it to thrive.

    china can easily wield full control of the economy.

    China will get its reckoning around 2030 when the demographics tip over badly.

  132. Gab

    Just in: US economy adds 103,000 jobs in March.
    Unemployment rate stays at 4.1%
    Wages jump 2.7%

    Bottom line: March was a funky month because of snow in much of US. It’s hard to read much into the numbers

  133. JC

    Oh look, it’s Rooster and doing what he does best…. obsessed with me.

    Where have you been Roost? Traveled much by talk back?

  134. JC

    China isn’t the only country in the world with the capacity to make cheap stuff. I’m not saying there would be no flow-on effects, but I don’t think we’ll be “fucked royally”.

    We’ll be fine. Commodity prices falling as a supply shock in the world’s major economy always goes well for Australia.

  135. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Absolute nonsense. If you are no threat to the state, you can travel throughout most of China largely unimpeded. If you’re on the state’s radar as a troublemaker, you will find just about any journey…difficult.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. foreigners do not require an internal passport in either russia or china. locals do.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh look, JC and one of his almost daily Tourette’s posts. It is strange he did not notice all the other posts about the movie but only chose one to have a go at. Just one of the many examples of JC triggering himself over nothin

    Fair comment. JC seems almost obsessed with “Roonery” that he spends half his life on this blog, raving about him, and then raises the subject of “Tourettes.” Silly old duffer.

  137. Snoopy

    Lets see you build a Foxconn here, Snoop. you know it’s easy right, because everything those Chinese manufacture is really easy. You could have one in North Queensland.

    I don’t know what a Foxconn is and I didn’t say anything about turning NQ into the next Shenzen. However I do know this. Anything that the Chinese make off their own bat is shit. The only decent stuff is made to Western or Jap specs under strict supervision, or copied from stolen IP.

  138. Oh come on

    Zippy, by 2030 AI will have very likely changed the game.

    The Chinese state is brittle and becoming increasingly so. There are huge internal problems in China that we barely perceive in the West.

    The fact is that, if the West is a negotiating bloc, it is easily the senior partner in the ongoing arrangement with China. Hell, the USA alone is the senior partner. The economies of both nations are so intertwined that, if the government of one decided to deliberately harm the other, there are many options available to both sides. But ultimately the USA could make China hurt much more than vice versa. This will be the case for several years at least.

  139. JC

    venezuala is not a communist dictatorship. Just a failed state.

    Look, if you’re going to discuss this then stop being an idiot or stop the stupid shit. Venezuela is now a communist dictatorship for all intents. Moreover, it failed because IT FOLLOWED socialist economic principles. Therefore your reply is a nonsense. Don’t annoy me with crap as I’m intolerant.

    china can easily wield full control of the economy.

    There are no countervailing forces in the world that can prevent economic forces. Nothing. No government no matter how murderous and how oppressive. You cannot fight against the massive tide of economic forces.

    China will get its reckoning around 2030 when the demographics tip over badly.

    Okay. But just to remind you, Japan’s demographics are in the toilet and have been for 25 years and Japan on a per capita basis is doing fine. I don’t that stuff, it’s linear thoughtless bullshit.

  140. JC

    Fair comment. JC seems almost obsessed with “Roonery” that he spends half his life on this blog, raving about him, and then raises the subject of “Tourettes.” Silly old duffer.

    Rones just partnered up. What a fucking coward.

    It’s ronery and of course you know it is, you dishonest little prick. You spend your entire life here boring everyone stupid. Rones, I’m serious, you would have bored a wheat field to death.

  141. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Don’t annoy me with crap as I’m intolerant.inebriated.

    da

  142. JC

    I don’t buy that stuff, it’s linear thoughtless bullshit.

  143. Oh come on

    You have no idea what you are talking about. foreigners do not require an internal passport in either russia or china. locals do.

    No, you have no idea what you are talking about. Foreigners very frequently do require travel documents when travelling in China. They’re called passports. Try checking into any hotel as a foreigner without one.

    Locals don’t have ‘internal passports’ – they have ID cards, just like the citizens of most of western Europe. It isn’t difficult for an average local to travel throughout China. It’s very easy, actually.

  144. egg_

    Micallef must read the Cat – last week he had a Scottish Detective badly in need of subtitles.

  145. JC

    Don’t annoy me with crap as I’m intolerant.inebriated.

    da

    naaa I’m a two drinks man max. I had a negroni and a glass of red with a delightful veal ragu and fresh linguine. Company was nice too.

  146. Oh come on

    Actually, I was travelling through the Avon Valley recently. Bit of a shithole, to be honest. The river bloody stinks. The glorious rolling countryside looks to me to be a few brown, sparsely treed hills. I dunno, maybe it looks better in winter when it’s greened up a bit.

  147. Oh come on

    The Avon River is really disgusting at present. It’s a trickle, and that trickle is full of brown-black floating sludge. Farm run-off, I presume.

  148. JC

    Just so we know. My pal, who doing a massive motor bike ride from London to Vladivostok this year in the northern summer was telling me this evening that Australians are being refused entry visas to Russia at the moment as retaliation for sanctions imposed.

  149. Oh come on

    I’m serious, you would have bored a wheat field to death.

    LOL cmon that is a pretty funny line.

  150. Oh come on

    The Brits ought to hold a rival competition to the FIFA deal in Russia. I reckon they’d get plenty of takers if they marketed it right. Simply preventing the English football team from competing in Russia would screw with the event pretty seriously.

  151. Snoopy

    I entered the USSR without a visa in 1978.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Oh come on

    #2680418, posted on April 7, 2018 at 12:14 am

    The Brits ought to hold a rival competition to the FIFA deal in Russia. I reckon they’d get plenty of takers if they marketed it right. Simply preventing the English football team from competing in Russia would screw with the event pretty seriously.

    Withdrawing a side which rarely makes the quarter finals isn’t going to cause a ripple.

  153. Oh come on

    I know they always lose, Leigh. But the English side is still a superpower at any World Cup due to global interest in its players, amongst other things. It wouldn’t be a small matter if England sits out a World Cup.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    It’s not just that they lose OCO.
    They find the most novel ways of losing.

  155. H B Bear

    Prime Minister Shorten. We need to get used to hearing that. It is a certainty.

    A Liars win is a certainty. Whether Peanut Head is still there is still a matter of conjecture.

  156. JC

    Wonder Woman is a seriously hot gal.

    Just putting it out there.

  157. Mother Lode

    I am just waiting for Gadot.

  158. Oh come on

    I think it would be a genuinely astute piece of realpolitik to fuck with Vlad’s World Cup. If the Poms had a touch of Kerry Packer about them, they could at the very least piss off Putin mightily by finding a way to screw it up a bit.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Demand curves are no longer sloping, right? In fact they slope the opposite way.

    OK that’s a bit racist if you are talking about China.

  160. cohenite

    China did really well during the GFC which was caused by slick willy instructing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to mortgage to every loser as part of the left dream. China did well by importing massive amounts of Australian coal to build FAIs. The world’s best treasurer, swan who rivals a border collie for financial acumen, ignored Australia’s great BOT against China which meant we didn’t need to do anything to combat the GFC but swan gave away 21 billion for nothing, all of which was spent on white goods, all imported, and booze.

    China was in trouble because it bought the derivatives of the lending spree by Clinton which had been issued by the smarties like Lehman bros and Goldman Sachs which in turn only survived because slick willy bailed them out.

    I don’t know why anyone bothers to listen to so-called economic and financial experts with a recent history like that. As far as I can tell these so-called experts, the spivs, stock-brokers etc, are really witch doctors.

  161. Rae

    9 under is leading in the 2nd round at Augusta.

    And the Paper Tiger has just dropped another shot to go 4 over.

  162. Helen

    So is the meeting Monday off or on?
    Ive been away and the last message yesterday I saw was off, but I was wondering if that had changed.

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