Wednesday Forum: April 11, 2018

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    From what I’ve heard 7 loses money on the footy already but uses it as a loss leader for other shows.

    If their cricket broadcast is anywhere near as bad as their footy broadcast I’ll stick to cricinfo and make word pictures in my alcohol addled mind.

    Jesus!
    I was rejoicing this morning at seeing the tail end of Heals, Tubby, Pup and Co.
    Now you’ve got me thinking about sitting through six hours of Bruce fucking McAvaney …
    Gee, I’ve got an interesting stat … ” and
    You just get the feeling that, if the Aussies get two quick wickets here, it could be critical … (wait for it) … in the context of the match“.

  2. None

    Shooting enthusiasts should switch on to the women’s trap competition on 72 at the Commonwealth Games.

    No I haven’t watched a second of the games it so I can’t start now.

  3. Boambee John

    From mole at 1606

    or religion or perceived religion;

    Plenty of “verbal abuse, intimidation, threats, harassment, assault and bullying,” directed against Christisans. Time for some reverse lawfare. Drown them in complaints whenever some media “personality” steps over that very grey line.

  4. Makka

    Snowden is an unsavory character who went about his deeds in a rotten manner but he may have just saved the US from becoming a covertly oppressed state – if Trump has enough success.

    Tunnel visioned types won’t see it that way however. They prefer to back their vision of a (corrupt) warrior CIA long gone, the master architects of the current cess pit we call the ME among other grotesque creations.

  5. Muddy

    Myrddin Seren
    #2685930, posted on April 13, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    Ultimately it will be impossible not to commit a thought crime somewhere, some time …

    THINKING is a CRIME.
    Posters coming soon to a childcare centre near you.
    (Don’t miss the live performance at your local Westfield. Suitable for all ages. Register first for Harmony Helper tax credits).

  6. Infidel Tiger

    Here’s the problem though. If Snowden and Assange deserve the death penalty for releasing classified docs then so does Crooked and her senior helpers at State. However if that tart is free then so do Snowden and the albino deserve to be.

    There’s no limit to the number of people I would execute.

  7. Rather you than me, mate.

    We have to know the urban bugman well in order to defeat him.

  8. thefrolickingmole

    Heres a prime example of “innocent, but we demand the death penalty” in action.

    Spare me these sob stories about the rugby misogynists
    Suzanne Moore

    TL:DR version, “lady” got rooted by 1/2 a football team and decided she was raped.
    Gone to trial and unanimous “not guilty” verdict.

    So whats the logical take from a card carrying member of the spinsterhood?

    The jury unanimously acquitted these men of rape. Their friends Blane McIlroy and Rory Harrison were unanimously found not guilty of indecent exposure and of perverting the course of justice. None of these men did anything illegal. Yet they are now fighting in a different court: the court of public opinion. The widespread disgust at the way that they spoke about the woman who they had sex with clings to them. It is the nature of what these young men said to each other that has appalled so many people and led to the creation of the hashtag #IBelieveHer.

    Justice by hashtag.

    So she bolsters her case by referring to another similar case where the men were also found not guilty.

    This week Otto Putland, a swimmer who represented Wales at the Commonwealth Games, was also cleared of rape at Cardiff crown court. He had denied forcing himself on a woman after she had consensual sex with his friend, the Olympic swimmer Ieuan Lloyd.

    But not satisfied with being outraged over innocent men escaping jail…

    Footballer Ched Evans, unanimously cleared of rape in 2016, had sex with a woman in a hotel room following a night out in Rhyl, immediately after his friend Clayton McDonald had had sex with her. Evans left via a fire exit without speaking to the woman. His younger brother and another man watched the encounter through a window.

    However in the end she finally admits her real “problem” with these blokes and their pork sword behavior.

    These men are not rapists, but they are guilty of vile misogyny. None of them presumably has difficulty getting women, who flock to them.

    As a postscript she’d still like them flayed and rolled in rocksalt…

    Misogyny is not a crime, clearly, but spare me the suffering of these rugby legends. For them to be portrayed as victims, now? That is truly unbelievable.

  9. Tom

    Apologies, Cats. I misheard. The six-year cricket rights deal is worth $1.18 billion (let’s call it $1.2 bill), not $1.6 billion. So it’s half the GayFL six-year rights deal and 60% of the League deal — which, I would say, is exactly what it’s worth: summer sport’s value is half of winter sport, to which we can add some loose change out of the ashtray for horse-racing, soccer, tennis, basketball and V8 Supercars.

  10. Baldrick

    No I haven’t watched a second of the games it so I can’t start now.

    I have better things to do in life than watch B grade athletes compete for C grade world titles.

  11. DrBeauGan

    There’s no limit to the number of people I would execute.

    So the number has increased, IT. It used to be a hundred, iirc.

    Anyway, there clearly is a limit and it’s less than eight billion because there aren’t that many on the planet.

  12. OldOzzie

    WSJ – Ex-FBI Director James Comey in Memoir Compares Donald Trump to Mafia Boss

    Director fired by Trump calls his presidency a ‘forest fire’ and defends his disclosures on Clinton probe; White House plans campaign to counter claims

    Former FBI Director James Comey describes President Donald Trump as a “deeply flawed person and leader” in a new memoir that also compares him to a Mafia boss and characterizes his presidency as a “forest fire,” according to a copy reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

    The book, “A Higher Loyalty,” is scheduled for release Tuesday. Mr. Comey was fired by Mr. Trump in May of last year and since then has been the subject of frequent criticism by Mr. Trump on Twitter.

    Mr. Comey accuses Mr. Trump of “leading through fear” and demanding personal loyalty above all else. And Mr. Comey says he told former President Barack Obama in an Oval Office meeting shortly after the election, “I dread the next four years.”

    Mr. Comey in the book defends his decisions surrounding his controversial series of disclosures of the Hillary Clinton email investigation in the final weeks and days of the 2016 presidential election cycle. Mr. Comey suggests that he feared that withholding information from the public could have made Mrs. Clinton an “illegitimate president.”

    “It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election appeared closer or if Donald Trump were ahead in the polls,” he writes. “But I don’t know.”

    The White House didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. The administration, however, is preparing to counter the criticisms of Mr. Trump. At the White House’s urging, the Republican National Committee has drafted talking points for surrogates on the book and is preparing a rapid-response operation, according to people familiar with the matter.

    White House press officials have held a meeting with the RNC to discuss the plan, according to one of the people. Among the RNC’s prepared materials is a website called “Lyin’ Comey,” branding the former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a “leaker” and a “politically motivated Washington insider.”

    One person familiar with the White House’s thinking on the Comey book said in an interview Thursday: “The president has been very clear what he thinks of James Comey. He has politicized investigations, leaked confidential material and lied under oath.”

    This person went on to say that the White House, though, won’t take the lead role in undercutting Mr. Comey and instead will be “allowing allies in Congress, outside advisers and the Republican Party apparatus lead the charge in margin the case that James Comey is dishonorable and shouldn’t be trusted.”

    In the book’s discussion of the Clinton probe, the former FBI director accuses then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch of effectively siding with the Clinton campaign in directing him, in his initial public comments at an event with reporters in October 2015, to play the probe down by calling it a “matter” instead of using the word “investigation.”

    “The attorney general seemed to be directing me to align with that Clinton campaign strategy,” Mr. Comey writes. “The FBI didn’t do ‘matters,’ ” he says, adding that “it was misleading to suggest otherwise.”

    He adds, “I know the FBI attendees at our meeting saw her request as overtly political when we talked about it afterward.”

    Mr. Comey also writes about classified material obtained by the government in early 2016 that “would undoubtedly have been used by political opponents to cast serious doubt on the attorney general’s independence in connection with the Clinton investigation” had it become public.

    That material remains classified, according to Mr. Comey, who says he expects it will likely become public decades from now.

    As to Ms. Lynch’s encounter with former President Bill Clinton aboard an FBI jet on a tarmac in Phoenix during the investigation, however, Mr. Comey says he regarded the idea that their conversation could influence the probe as “ridiculous.”

    Ms. Lynch didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

    “I knew this was going to suck for me,” Mr. Comey writes of the firestorm he anticipated upon deciding to make public his recommendation against prosecuting Mrs. Clinton. “But I believed—and still believe, even in hindsight—it was the best thing for the FBI and for the Department of Justice.”

    For that announcement, he recalls, he wore a gold tie so as not to adorn himself with either of the “normal political gang colors,” presumably meaning red or blue.

    His decision to notify Congress 11 days before the election that his investigative team had begun examining fresh material in the Clinton investigation was justified, Mr. Comey writes, by his concern about preserving the integrity of the FBI.

    With “nearly everyone” assuming that Mrs. Clinton would win the presidency, Mr. Comey grew nervous that the FBI could find itself in a situation after election day in which it discovered prosecutable material but had failed to disclose that Mrs. Clinton was still the subject of an FBI investigation.

    “No matter what we found, that act of concealment would be catastrophic to the integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. Put that way, the choice between a ‘really bad’ option and a ‘catastrophic’ option was not that hard a call,” he writes.

    Mr. Comey said Ms. Lynch suggested to him the probability that the existence of the new search warrant would have leaked, causing the situation to become public anyway and leaving the bureau looking as though it were concealing information.

    Amid the ensuing public and private criticism from all corners, Mr. Comey writes, Ms. Lynch beckoned him to her office, closed the door and embraced him in a hug.

    “This was awkward in a number of respects. Perhaps mostly because I am about eighteen inches taller than Loretta Lynch,” he writes. “When our bodies came together, her face went into my solar plexus as she wrapped her arms around me.”

    Recalling the first time he met Mr. Trump—when he went to Trump Tower to brief the president-elect on the dossier written by former British spy Christopher Steele —Mr. Comey writes that he was alarmed by Mr. Trump’s behavior.

    After Mr. Comey disclosed some of the dossier’s allegations to the president-elect, including the assertion that Mr. Trump had engaged prostitutes in a Moscow hotel in 2013, Mr. Trump asked if he seemed like someone who required the services of prostitutes and launched into a recollection of cases in which women had accused him of sexual assault. To curb Mr. Trump’s reaction, Mr. Comey writes, he told Mr. Trump that, “we are not investigating you.”

    After the dossier became public and Mr. Trump learned that it included an allegation that he had watched as Russian prostitutes urinated on a bed in which Mr. Obama and his wife had slept, Mr. Trump called Mr. Comey to tell him that he “now recalled” that he hadn’t stayed overnight in Moscow and that the allegation couldn’t be true because he is “a germaphobe.”

    Several months later, when Mr. Comey learned from news reports that he had been fired, he received an “emotional” call from Gen. John Kelly, who was at the time Mr. Trump’s secretary of Homeland Security, Mr. Comey writes. Mr. Kelly told Mr. Comey, “he was sick about my firing and that he intended to quit in protest.”

    “He said he didn’t want to work for dishonorable people who would treat someone like me in such a manner,” Mr. Comey writes. “I urged Kelly not to do that, arguing that the country needed principled people around this president. Especially this president.”

    Mr. Kelly, now Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

  13. Infidel Tiger

    A 1000 targeted assasinations.

    Millions of public executions.

    A better world.

  14. LNP insider

    Couple of preselection tidbits.

    As mentioned in the Courier Mail. Cr Julian Simmonds is challenging Jane Prentice. What’s interesting about this one is Prentice was grooming Simmonds as the successor but he has grown inpatient and decided to go. This is a miderate vs moderate, but at least Simmonds isn’t close to Photios. A couple of well known conservatives in the m but none want to contest. I believe Simmonds has the numbers at this stage but Prentice is crafty.

    Herbert – Ewen Jones has confirmed but may face a challenge from Casie Scott who was a state candidate who got the largest swing to them in the area. So its a proven loser and has been up against a young up and comer who shows potential. There was also a rumour anout Andrew Cripps contesting… seems unlikely though when I cross checked it.

    Flynn – someone has nominated against O’Dowd. Not sure who it is though. O’Dowd still has the numbers.

    Hinkler – Nationals staffer Cathy Heidrich was testong numbers but she doesn’t have them. If she does nominate she will lose.

    Groom – this is also contested by Mcveigh has the numbers.

    Gold Coast – Might be a challenge here. The Stuart Roberts intergerence in Bonney and Southport may result in a payback attempt.

    Longman- watch out for Kara Thomas potentially contesting this one.

    Senate – the Scott Emerson nomination has divided people as many think why give a senate spot to someone who lost their state seat and he should try to win his seat back instead. Yet people want to move MacDonald on. Plenty of room for another candidate to emerge.

  15. Muddy

    Erin Molan for cricket!
    Ya know it’s gonna happen, right?
    Cos she’s a woman, and women watch their men watch cricket.
    But the words ball, stump, and wicket (which sounds like ‘thicket’) will never be mentioned by the new commentary team. And everyone on the field will have a bat, because fairness. But they’ll be thickly padded, cos elf n’ safety. Jazz hands to replace sledging, except ‘jazz hands’ is racist, so we’ll need a replacement name for that too.
    So much potential.

  16. LNP insider

    Apologies for above typos

  17. Makka

    The Lone Ranger of the LNP. What a bunch of gutless wonders (excluding Dutton).

    Anyone who doesn’t understand the demographic engineering both parties are executing in Australia is a fkg moron;

    Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has slowed Australia’s immigration intake — and he didn’t need to get a submission through Cabinet.

    Key points:
    Kiwis in Australia are now getting visas previously granted to mostly overseas-based Asians
    Growth in migration figures is likely to slow by thousands in coming years as a result
    The Government argues it has not formally cut the permanent intake
    The country’s headline migration figure will be lower in coming years than it would have been otherwise, thanks to New Zealanders already in Australia taking visas that previously went to immigrants overseas.

  18. Baldrick

    Comey says he told former President Barack Obama in an Oval Office meeting shortly after the election, “I dread the next four years.”

    Yes, but what was he telling Obambi privately before the election?

  19. stackja

    Peter Kurti: Enjoy speaking your mind. That’ll be over soon
    Peter Kurti, The Daily Telegraph
    April 13, 2018 2:31pm
    Subscriber only
    ENJOY speaking your mind and sharing your views while you can — because soon enough the rights to freedom of speech, conscience, and religious belief look set to disappear from Australia.

    And it will certainly happen if the corporate guardians of public morality have their way following the grilling given to Wallaby Israel Folau after he expressed a view on Instagram about homosexuality.

    In addition to being a sport superstar, Izzy is also a devout Christian belonging to the Assemblies of God — a Christian church known for its conservative doctrines and literal interpretations of the Bible.

    So it’s surely no surprise he holds some very traditional Christian beliefs about sin, heaven and hell, and homosexuality.

    Christian theologians have been wrestling with the same questions for centuries.

    Note that Izzy did not say gay people should be beaten up or pushed off tall buildings — a belief some of the radical Islamists so beloved of the Left espouse, and practice.

    Folau expressed his view that they should repent in this life to avoid God’s eternal punishment in the next — that is, being sent to hell.

    Recent figures show less than 30 per cent of Australians actually believe in hell. Even the Pope doubts there’s a physical place with fire and brimstone.

    You can agree or disagree with Izzy. But either way, if Australia is a genuinely free country, he should be free to express his genuinely held religious beliefs.

    And if we are a genuinely tolerant country, we will let Izzy say what he thinks even though many of us may strongly disagree with what he says. Remember: tolerating views you agree with is easy.

    We often confuse tolerance with respect. But real tolerance means putting up with the opinions of others that you think are wrong – or even abhorrent and repellent.

    After all, we clearly expect Izzy to tolerate all the views bluntly expressed by his many critics, including corporate sponsors such as Qantas and ASICS, who accuse him of homophobia, and worse.

    Obviously, when he answered the Instagram question, Izzy wasn’t representing the views of Rugby Australia, or ASIC or Qantas. Only a fool would have failed to see they were his personal views.

    Yet now there appears to be a concerted push to silence Izzy and force him to keep his religious beliefs to himself. But why should he keep quiet? After all, Alan Joyce doesn’t keep his views to himself.

    But corporate sponsors are getting ready to use their hefty financial clout to silence the opinions of anyone in the organisations they support with whom they happen to disagree.

    Increasingly, sponsors are no longer content to fund and support organisations that bring pleasure to millions of Aussies.

    They also want to control the way each of us thinks and speaks.

    And the fury that rages on social media the moment any new social norm is transgressed, however slightly, means we are all continually caught in a one-way ratchet towards greater intolerance.

    Qantas is well known for taking a strong position on key social issues such as marriage equality.

    The week before Mardi Gras, for example, in-flight passengers were treated to rainbow-coloured “pride cookies”.

    When it’s even got to the point where the Flying Kangaroo is politicising the meagre in-flight food it serves up, freedom of speech has clearly become as much about what we do as about what we say.

    Freedom of speech means sometimes people will say things – or serve us cookies – that others find disagreeable. And if we truly value such freedom, we will stop trying to silence those who offend us.

  20. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2685978, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    A 1000 targeted assasinations.

    Millions of public executions.

    A better world.

    Undoubtedly. But it might be difficult to fund it. Government grants seem unlikely.

  21. Mark from Melbourne

    Now you’ve got me thinking about sitting through six hours of Bruce fucking McAvaney …
    “Gee, I’ve got an interesting stat … ” and
    “You just get the feeling that, if the Aussies get two quick wickets here, it could be critical … (wait for it) … in the context of the match“.

    Leigh, this is wrong on many levels.

    Bruce’s comments would go something more like this :-

    “Gee, that’s an interesting stat, isn’t it?”
    “You just get the feeling that, if the Aussies get two quick wickets here, it could be critical … (wait for it) … in the context of the match, don’t you?”

    Bruce last finished a sentence without a question in about 1992…. didn’t he?

  22. Marcus

    No I haven’t watched a second of the games it so I can’t start now.

    That’s a pity. The Aussie, Lateisha Scanlan, almost choked in the last set if five but won it on the final target and was humble and gracious in victory, which is always a bonus. Fantastic television.

  23. Tel

    Snowden is an unsavory character who went about his deeds in a rotten manner but he may have just saved the US from becoming a covertly oppressed state – if Trump has enough success.

    He successfully converted it from a covertly oppressed state into an overtly oppressed state. Everyone felt a lot better after that!

    However mostly he confirmed what people already sort of knew about, the CARNIVORE project was already well documented, and it was only probably early days, any idiot can see these kind of systems only get bigger and more powerful.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29

  24. Baldrick

    LNP insider
    #2685979, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    Couple of preselection tidbits.

    IT, I just found a couple more names for the list.

  25. Zatara

    “We heard he had some proclivity to make tapes,” said one Trump adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. “Now we are wondering, who did he tape? Did he store those someplace where they were actually seized? . . . Did they find his recordings?”

    The issues here go far beyond the Cohen/Trump attorney client relationship, although violating that was bad enough. The point some are missing is that Cohen had other clients. The FBI seized and are reviewing ALL his files (and/or tapes), even ones which have nothing to do with Trump.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. – 4th Amendment, US Constitution

    Since the FBI has taken it upon themselves to seize and then read through that mountain of information seeking whatever it is they are warranted to seek one question comes to mind, what magic technique makes them un-see the protected information of others NOT covered in the Warrant?

    Why weren’t arrangements made for a panel of Judges to review the evidence and sort out what was covered by the Warrant and what wasn’t instead of letting the cops thumb though it all? How many people were screwed out of their Constitutional rights by this raid? How many will be screwed at trial because of this? Or on the flip side, how many criminals will walk if their attorney is smart enough to make the case that evidence against them was tainted by it?

    Bottom line, this abortion is the very essence of unreasonable search and seizure. Anyone who is celebrating it needs to have a serious re-think of their ideology.

  26. Muddy

    Infidel Tiger
    #2685970, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    There’s no limit to the number of people I would execute.

    If I didn’t vehemently disagree with you on other issues, you could so easily be my man-crush.
    Just for that.

  27. Marcus

    Leigh, this is wrong on many levels.

    Bruce’s comments would go something more like this :-

    “Gee, that’s an interesting stat, isn’t it?”
    “You just get the feeling that, if the Aussies get two quick wickets here, it could be critical … (wait for it) … in the context of the match, don’t you?”

    We were talking in the office about the possibility of Bill Lawry commentating in the tennis now that Nine has them.

    “And it’s break point, and … GETS IT! Aawww, can you believe that! Brilliant tennis by the Victoria, just brilliant, and what a volley that was!”

    And looking down from the hereafter, Tony Greig:

    “Calm down, Bill. We’re only in the first set!”

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2685978, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    A 1000 targeted assasinations.

    Millions of public executions.

    A better world.

    You can’t underestimate the multiplier educational effect it has on the residual population who witness it, either.
    Top plan.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    Undoubtedly. But it might be difficult to fund it. Government grants seem unlikely.

    Crowd sourced.

    Pro bono.

  30. Makka

    He successfully converted it from a covertly oppressed state into an overtly oppressed state. Everyone felt a lot better after that!

    He didn’t convert anything at all. What he did was expose the biggest organised Govt covert oppression program ever known or created. No, people didn’t feel better – they felt sick. Rightly so. I suspect he has substantially more to disclose at a time of his choosing and it will be very uncomfortable for many people.

    The overt oppression came from the Kenyan Administration and ClintonCrimeInc.

  31. Marcus

    Couple of preselection tidbits.

    Thanks for the update, and I’ll celebrate if Stuart Robert gets knocked off. I don’t care whether you’re in the “conservative” faction or not. If you’re just some factional “whatever-it-takes” sleaze and you’ve already been kicked off the frontbench for lack of ethical standards, you’re deadweight and you’ve got to go.

    Just out of interest (I’m not a Queenslander) are there any seats the LNP actually feels good about at the moment?

  32. Leigh Lowe

    And looking down from the hereafter, Tony Greig:

    “Calm down, Bull. Bill. It’s the pre-match hit-up! We’re only in the first set!”

  33. monty’s sentence would be weekly dinners with JC. Apologies to JC.

  34. Since the FBI has taken it upon themselves to seize and then read through that mountain of information seeking whatever it is they are warranted to seek one question comes to mind, what magic technique makes them un-see the protected information of others NOT covered in the Warrant?

    Why weren’t arrangements made for a panel of Judges to review the evidence and sort out what was covered by the Warrant and what wasn’t instead of letting the cops thumb though it all? How many people were screwed out of their Constitutional rights by this raid? How many will be screwed at trial because of this? Or on the flip side, how many criminals will walk if their attorney is smart enough to make the case that evidence against them was tainted by it?

    Zatar, there is such a system in place and it is no doubt being used in this case.

    The basic rule is that the government may not deliberately seize, or review, attorney-client communications. The USAM — and relevant caselaw — therefore require the feds to set up a review process. That process might involve a judge reviewing the materials to separate out what is privileged (or what might fall within an exception to the privilege), or else set up a “dirty team” that does the review but is insulated from the “clean team” running the investigation. Another option is a “special master,” an experienced and qualified third-party attorney to do the review. Sometimes the reviewing team will only be identifying and protecting privileged material. Sometimes the reviewing team will be preparing to seek, or to implement, a court ruling that the documents are not privileged.

  35. Gab

    Crowd sourced.

    Good idea that should be applied to their ABC once we have a government with the brains and the balls to defund it.

  36. Tel

    Crowd sourced.

    Pro bono.

    Borrowing some ideas from the tried and tested Fatwa system?

  37. feelthebern

    I suspect he has substantially more to disclose at a time of his choosing and it will be very uncomfortable for many people.

    No, he’s done.
    Snowden doesn’t even have access to to the stuff he gave to Glenn Greenwald and the Guardian.
    That was the point of his strategy.
    Here you take it.
    I don’t want it.
    Publish it or not.
    I’m done.
    I’m out.

  38. DrBeauGan

    Infidel Tiger
    #2685995, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Undoubtedly. But it might be difficult to fund it. Government grants seem unlikely.

    Crowd sourced.

    Pro bono.

    You set up the crowdfunding, and I’ll donate $1,000. You could call it a pest eradication programme.

  39. Boambee John

    Zatara at 1732

    Bottom line, this abortion is the very essence of unreasonable search and seizure. Anyone who is celebrating it needs to have a serious re-think of their ideology.

    There is no way that m0nty will re-think his ideology.

  40. Muddy

    DrBeauGan
    #2686006, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    Infidel Tiger
    #2685995, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Undoubtedly. But it might be difficult to fund it. Government grants seem unlikely.

    Crowd sourced.
    Pro bono.

    You set up the crowdfunding, and I’ll donate $1,000. You could call it a pest eradication programme.

    Call it a loan, and once the broadcast rights are sold for a squillion, you’ll get it back, plus interest of course.
    Hmmm, you’ll need a host for the broadcast, IT. Someone who is engaging and witty, but won’t be a big loss if the action goes horribly wrong once or twice a week.

  41. egg_

    From what I’ve heard 7 loses money on the footy already but uses it as a loss leader for other shows.

    The ratings hierarchy is:
    Documentaries
    Movies
    Sport

    Given the above, I’d look at what they put on after e.g. the AWFL on Maaaate.

  42. Zatara

    Zatar, there is such a system in place and it is no doubt being used in this case.

    Oh there is quite a bit of doubt. No, there should be such a system in place. So far there is no evidence that it is. Big difference.

    The USAM — and relevant caselaw — therefore require the feds to set up a review process. That process might involve a judge reviewing the materials to separate out what is privileged (or what might fall within an exception to the privilege), or else set up a “dirty team” that does the review but is insulated from the “clean team” running the investigation.

    Yeah, and the FBI “clean team” undergoes immediate brain bleaching so they forget all that pesky evidence which has nothing to do with the warrant? No chance of them using that information to pursue other investigations or prosecutions. Yeah, right.

    As I said, anyone who is celebrating this abortion needs to rethink their ideology.

  43. Nick

    Jesus!
    I was rejoicing this morning at seeing the tail end of Heals, Tubby, Pup and Co.
    Now you’ve got me thinking about sitting through six hours of Bruce fucking McAvaney …
    “Gee, I’ve got an interesting stat … ” and
    “You just get the feeling that, if the Aussies get two quick wickets here, it could be critical … (wait for it) … in the context of the match“.

    Same. ‘Truly sssppeccialll’, talking about his cricket playing in the under 10s, looking at the MCG and quoting athletics records set there.

  44. Nick

    Yassmin hasn’t tweeted in 21 hours. Pity the truth got in the middle of her narrative.

  45. bundyrum

    Just amazing….the piece of shit running the country & is caught betting against Australa & its economic interests & he isn’t under arrest for conflict of interest or treason…at the very least he should be is run out of town him & Lucifer together.
    Hows the cricket going?
    FME

  46. Nick

    Worse still with the mess that is the light rail in Sydney, both of what will be Sydneys’ two light rail lines, won’t be connected. For example, they couldn’t run a Swans tram from Dullwich Hill to the SCG. What idiots.

  47. egg_

    How do Lucifer and The Stick Insect get on?

  48. Baldrick

    Yassmin hasn’t tweeted in 21 hours.

    Of course not. Her agent put a stop to the free stuff. Wanna talk to Yassi? Hand over the cash.

  49. thefrollickingmole

    bundyrum

    Already dealt with about 3 pages back.
    Consensus seems to be as most people dont understand short trading and the idea of betting on failure he will let it slide off his teflon testicles until election day.

  50. miltonf

    Bundyrum +1 The PMship is just a plaything. To bad about the country and its people. The LNP must really hate its base to inflict Trumble on us.

  51. bundyrum

    Mole….it wasn’t dealt with 3 pages back….the bastard is still in the big chair….please tell me what that sack of shit has done to improve the welfare of Australian people….he is a rat…his wife too.
    I am not having a go at you as i find you an excellent poster.
    But this sack of shit has to go.

  52. LNP Insider;

    Apologies for above typos

    It’s cool we can decipher Dr Fred Lenin.
    Most of the time….

  53. Caveman

    $1.2 BILLION cricket deal , faaarrk they can tamper my balls for that.

  54. None

    I recall a recent discussion on this blog or at least in the comments on teleology, and this short book review and excerpt reminded me of that http://bernardgaynor.com.au/back-to-realism/

  55. rickw

    I find Indians the worst. Hey, maybe it is just not how they are brought up in India. Those born here (or living here from an early age) seem to know about deodorant, but you would expect that from their experience at school, watching the ads on TV and seeing it as one of the things you are meant to be mindful of.

    Muzzie Leb demolition contractor hired a heap of them to do a job.

    Toolbox Talk Day 1:

    This shit is called deodorant, you put it on your armpits to stop you stinking. Put it on now! Starts handing out the roll ons.

    Anyone who turns up tomorrow without this on already is *@&)(“&) fired!!!

  56. Baldrick

    It’s cool we can decipher Dr Fred Lenin.

    You obviously haven’t read Dr. Fred since his eye operation Winston.

  57. nemkat

    Thanks for the updates, LNP Insider.
    Going on Michelle Landry’s survival, it looks as though credible female candidates do well in provincial Queensland.

  58. jupes

    Snowden is/was a lefty.
    But was a patriot.

    Patriots don’t seek asylum with the Chicoms and Ruskis.

    That’s what traitors do.

  59. None

    I’m the typo Queen, thank you very much.

  60. JC

    You gotta love America. Sure it’s reduced, but there still is that co-do spirit.

    This stock went from a couple of bucks reaching 60 bucks intra day.

    Look at what these magnificent bastards are working on. White geeks are an amazing species. They don’t get much in the way of sex etc, but fuck me they’re smart.

    Arcadia Biosciences, Inc. (RKDA) has achieved two key technology milestones in its High Fiber Resistant Starch Wheat program. First, through advanced screening and traditional breeding techniques, the company has developed non-transgenic wheat varieties that contain up to 94 percent amylose, the highest levels available. Increased levels of amylose correspond to high levels of resistant starch, which has been proven to deliver significant health benefits. Second, these same wheat varieties deliver levels of total dietary fiber high enough to meet the threshold required by the FDA for a “Good Source” of fiber or “High in Fiber” designation on consumer packaging.

  61. None, thank you for that book link.

  62. JC

    Jupes

    That may be true, but meanwhile Crooked is still on the loose poisoning everything her wake. The lardrase should either be in jail or holed up in an embassy somewhere too.

  63. bundyrum

    miltonf,
    It isn’t just the LNP that hate us, it’s the whole political class.
    They only look at us as something to be sucked dry.
    The first rule of government is to look after its citizens….apart from Trump…which western politicians do that?
    Unless we start kicking back we are fkd…..we won’t….so we are fkd.

  64. Gab

    or holed up in an embassy somewhere

    As long as it’s NOT an Australian embassy!

  65. Entropy

    Michelle Landry is a garden variety politician that for some reason revels in putting out press releases that are no more than lame attempted gotchas aimed at the opposing politicians. Politicians and their staffers seem to get off on these kinds of media statements but any person that knows anything about the subject the statement is vaguely connected to, knows how misleading and pathetic it really is.

    Is it too much to expect substance from our worthy elected for $200 K plus per annum?

  66. Entropy

    Arcadia Biosciences, Inc. (RKDA) has achieved two key technology milestones in its High Fiber Resistant Starch Wheat program. First, through advanced screening and traditional breeding techniques, the company has developed non-transgenic wheat varieties that contain up to 94 percent amylose, the highest levels available. Increased levels of amylose correspond to high levels of resistant starch, which has been proven to deliver significant health benefits. Second, these same wheat varieties deliver levels of total dietary fiber high enough to meet the threshold required by the FDA for a “Good Source” of fiber or “High in Fiber” designation on consumer packaging.

    Is it gluten free?

  67. nemkat

    Bundyrum:
    The Liberal Party isn’t a conservative Party. As long as they keep their promises to their supporters, they’ll keep getting elected.
    It’s when they walk away from the mainstream that they get into trouble.

  68. miltonf

    A huge problem for any conservative PM is taking on the pubic ‘service’ leviathan. The parliament has essentially lost control of it.

  69. jupes

    That may be true, but meanwhile Crooked is still on the loose poisoning everything her wake. The lardrase should either be in jail or holed up in an embassy somewhere too.

    Yes but it would have to be a small African embassy in another small African country.

    Say the Ethiopian Embassy in Chad.

  70. wivenhoe

    How do Lucifer and The Stick Insect get on?

    Lucifer has requested clemency, last that I heard, Apparently He prefers to have no one on top. So what can I say, other than trust in Lucifer’s judgememt.

  71. Gab

    Arcadia Biosciences, Inc. (RKDA) has achieved two key technology milestones in its High Fiber Resistant Starch Wheat program. First, through advanced screening and traditional breeding techniques, the company has developed non-transgenic wheat varieties that contain up to 94 percent amylose, the highest levels available. Increased levels of amylose correspond to high levels of resistant starch, which has been proven to deliver significant health benefits. Second, these same wheat varieties deliver levels of total dietary fiber high enough to meet the threshold required by the FDA for a “Good Source” of fiber or “High in Fiber” designation on consumer packaging.

    The person who can manufactured high-protein, very low carb bread that tastes like bread, has the texture of bread, is going to make millions upon millions.

  72. Baldrick

    By crikey look at the time. Must be time for a $13 bottle of Veuve Tailhan Blanc de Blancs Brut.

  73. bundyrum

    Baldrick…..thanks for the sock heads up…the sock above needs darning.

  74. nemkat

    Average I.Q. aint real high in Capricornia, Entropy, and the trend isn’t promising.
    As i said, for whatever reasons, provincial Queenslanders want to vote for female candidates. The ALP have worked this out in some Electorates, not in others.

  75. egg_

    .it wasn’t dealt with 3 pages back….the bastard is still in the big chair….

    It’s probably only further harmed his aloof reputation with the public.
    Shorto might gain as preferred PM.
    IIRC such events take about a fortnight to be reflected in polling results.

  76. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    By crikey look at the time. Must be time for a $13 bottle of Veuve Tailhan Blanc de Blancs Brut.

    Purely coincidental, Balders, but haven’t the majority of Grogarly’s sock puppets gone quite, since the vin rouge was cracked over the lunch table? Is it a chargeable offense to be drunk in charge of a sock, do you think?

  77. Baldrick

    thanks for the sock heads up…the sock above needs darning.

    You see how it operates bunby? Just a little nibble and when you tug on the line ever so slightly, it strikes.

  78. wivenhoe

    Is it a chargeable offense to be drunk in charge of a sock, do you think?

    If it is not, then it should be, with double demerits.

  79. Baldrick

    Is it a chargeable offense to be drunk in charge of a sock, do you think?

    Oh, I agree but dumbkat is here.

  80. Snoopy

    SBS News’ Washington correspondent Prue Lewarne makes Zoe Daniel appear almost rational by comparison.

  81. LNP insider

    Marcus

    #2685997, posted on April 13, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    Couple of preselection tidbits.

    Thanks for the update, and I’ll celebrate if Stuart Robert gets knocked off. I don’t care whether you’re in the “conservative” faction or not. If you’re just some factional “whatever-it-takes” sleaze and you’ve already been kicked off the frontbench for lack of ethical standards, you’re deadweight and you’ve got to go.

    Just out of interest (I’m not a Queenslander) are there any seats the LNP actually feels good about at the moment?

    Herbert they feel hopeful about because of the Adani factor. If Katter drops dead then they would target Kennedy.

    They don’t have faith in Longman coming back. Moreton, Griffith and Lilley not this time. The focus will be holding Petrie, Dickson, Forde, Flynn and Capricornia plus maybe taking Herbert.

    Landry is seen as a fighter due to her survival last election, so is Howarth for same reasons.

    O’Dowd is seen a bit more cynically due to the size of the swing against him last time. Some in the party think he is lazy and doesn’t work the electorate. They believe this explains the swing. Thus why they are open to a challenge as his laziness limits any incumbency advantage.

  82. Zatara

    That may be true, but meanwhile Crooked is still on the loose poisoning everything her wake. The lardrase should either be in jail or holed up in an embassy somewhere too.

    I hear there is a unoccupied Consulate in Benghazi.

  83. Roger.

    Dylan Voller arrested at Broadbeach on the Gold Coast while taking part in an indigenous protest against the Commonwealth Games.

    After attempting self-harm in the police van, he was hospitalised but is reportedly stable.

    The mental stability and moral integrity of someone who would self-harm as a way of either protesting or incriminating authorities must be seriously questioned. By everyone except the ABC, of course.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Arcadia Biosciences, Inc. (RKDA) has achieved two key technology milestones in its High Fiber Resistant Starch Wheat program

    The CEO isn’t a Dr. Raven Sable by any chance?

    (SF&F joke)

  85. nemkat

    Baldrick:
    You see how it operates bunby?

    B is a long way from D on the keyboard, Baldrick, so that wasn’t a typo.
    Looks like you’ve never heard of Bundy Rum, which leads me to question what Country you’re trolling from., because it aint Australia.

  86. Infidel Tiger

    I think I need a jeroboam of Dom Pérignon NV after reading that idiocy.

  87. Rockdoctor

    Thanks LNP insider. Mate reinforcing failure isn’t going cut the mustard regrettably. Not having a go but frustrated thoughts from a frustrated ex LNP voter who you won’t vote for your party till they come back to the centre right. On this I am not alone in NQ and I know quite a few others who think the same…

    Ewen Jones again, serious! The bloke who wasn’t man enough to reveal who he supported in the leadership spill though everyone in Herbert is fairly sure it was Turnbull. Supported just about every lefty cause pushed by the Photios Liberals. Seemed pretty amiable but would’ve made a great rural ALP candidate. From the coal face pardon the pun, you guys put him up forget winning Herbert back from O’Toole.

    Casie, yep LNP seems to like her but she is a phantom to the rest of us. Didn’t see her during last years state election did well but how much off the protest at Labor and even more so locally backlash against our ALP Mayor and Adani in an electorate that has large pockets of green leaning voters (Magnetic Is anyone….). She needs to get more of a profile & start attacking the way Labor is taking NQ for granted, fertile ground and a start is the City Council being shielded from some pretty dodgy business involving developers, opaque commercial contracts, near insolvency with budgets averted by State Gov “loans” all by state Gov & the CCC. Also the undersized Stadium project, why a convention centre isn’t included, also hotel licences are being issued to golfing partners of party faithful that stinks to high heaven. However I saw the donations list at the last election and probably understand why you held fire especially as one of the significant donors to both parties will do very well from a new stadium.

    Cripps, IMO probably the best of the lot but an out of towner, well out of towner being from the Tully area. Don’t know too much about him but held Hinchinbrook for a decade so must have done something right. If he was an Ingham local might have a chance so I don’t think he will wash in the end.

    LNP needs to get away from has beens, avoid wet behind the ears know nothings and concentrate on a mature candidate with runs on the board in the private sector. Plenty of self made types around in Townsville. I don’t envy the party with the electorate as it has a sizable rainbow population (though most live in the electorate Casie was vying for), a lot of rusted on old ALP types (Mundingburra comes to mind), the redneck vote on the fringes and then everyone else in between. Peter Lindsay seemed to manage it well, find someone like him.

    On a good note keep up the posts, is well appreciated.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    “As for who they (the commentators) are, all I know is our team will look young and inclusive but there’s nothing wrong with a bit of grey hair in that. Never underestimate the power of wisdom.”

    Fox announces its agenda to ruin yet another sport with PC madness.

    Memo to media types: Poofters and sheilas don’t like sport.

  89. Tom

    The trollscum are particularly thick tonight — a real tax-thieving pea-souper. #SfB #Graegoogleory #Septimus.

  90. Marcus

    Herbert they feel hopeful about because of the Adani factor. If Katter drops dead then they would target Kennedy.

    They don’t have faith in Longman coming back. Moreton, Griffith and Lilley not this time. The focus will be holding Petrie, Dickson, Forde, Flynn and Capricornia plus maybe taking Herbert.

    Landry is seen as a fighter due to her survival last election, so is Howarth for same reasons.

    O’Dowd is seen a bit more cynically due to the size of the swing against him last time. Some in the party think he is lazy and doesn’t work the electorate. They believe this explains the swing. Thus why they are open to a challenge as his laziness limits any incumbency advantage.

    Interesting. Thanks.

  91. Tel

    I think I need a jeroboam of Dom Pérignon NV after reading that idiocy.

    I’ll go one better and offer you ALL the non-vintage Dom, right here, you can drink from the barrel (_)

    Enjoy!!

    Hopefully, when the chips fall in the next few years (as it seems they are ready to do), perhaps the sock army will join our side. IT, you are probably the only mother they ever really had. A firm hand but fair, and in their hearts the sock army respects you for all you have done for them.

    Hey, it’s hard to get good help these days.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    Hopefully, when the chips fall in the next few years (as it seems they are ready to do), perhaps the sock army will join our side. IT, you are probably the only mother they ever really had. A firm hand but fair, and in their hearts the sock army respects you for all you have done for them.

    One can only hope. I have offered them my bosom and hope my kindness is returned.

  93. H B Bear

    Is Wayne Goosesteen going around in Lilley again? I note his Emeritus position at the Nambour TAFE hasn’t come through yet.

  94. Tom

    Give us a spell. Trolls are emotionally fucked up knowalls — the stupidest people ever born. They are here only to make idiots of themselves with the trademark congenital wrongology.

  95. bundyrum

    Long day & going bed…..just a question….has Trumbles shorting of the Aussie economy been mentioned by our truthful MSM?

  96. nemkat

    They’ve given Lilley to Dean Wells’s daughter, who ”works” for Maurice Blackburn.
    The LNP never make any serious attempt to win Griffith, Moreton, and Lilley [although they could], and the ALP appears to run dead in Bowman, Bonner, and the Sunshine Coast Seats.

  97. Geriatric Mayfly

    SBS News’ Washington correspondent Prue Lewarne makes Zoe Daniel appear almost rational by comparison.

    Has a long history of churning out Leftist opinion posing as news that presstitute. I fear she may have learnt some of her warped craft at the knee of Oria Guerin.

  98. nemkat

    If the Liberal Party had addressed the MediScare hoax effectively in 2016, the Government would’ve been returned with an increased majority.
    They were killing it in the Postals up to the 22nd of June.

  99. egg_

    Is shitfer the misogynist who thinks that zero females are involved in bridge design and construction?

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Get real. sfb is nothing like this fella.

    There are more than two trolls on earth you nincompoops.

  101. Baldrick

    Get over it dumbkat. The Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party is dead. The only thing remaining is its former rotting carcass, dressed up with Trumble’s $1.7 million donation.

  102. John Oliver, urban bugman extraordinaire, hates pregnancy crisis centers because they do not promote and provide abortion. Crowder provides the rebuttal.

  103. egg_

    Grig’s patent pedantry is hard to miss.

  104. Splatacrobat

    There is hope for Gen Z yet.
    Over 350 student groups walk out of class today to protest abortion

    April 11, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Across the United States, pro-life high school and college students from more than 250 schools and more than 350 student groups walked out of class to protest abortion.

    At 10:00 a.m. for each school’s local time on Wednesday, students left class to gather for seventeen minutes of silent witness for the ten children aborted by Planned Parenthood in that time period, and the more than 60 million babies killed since Roe v. Wade legalized abortion in 1973.

    The National Pro-Life Walkout was devised by Rocklin High School student Brandon Gillespie of California, with organizational support provided by Students for Life of America (SFLA). Gillespie wanted the event to “honor all the lives of the millions of aborted babies every year.”

    Students for Life covered the walkout with live video at several schools, including Rocklin, Moriarty High School in New Mexico, Los Alamitos High School in California, and Frederick East Classical High School in Maryland. SFLA reports enthusiastic crowds brandishing a variety of signs, as well as honks of support from passing cars. Several members of the Rocklin community turned out to support Brandon Gillespie, as well.

    “We want to make students aware that this is an issue for their generation,” a Frederick East administrator identified as Kim told SFLA’s Michele Hendrickson, “because a lot of their classmates may not even be here because of the abortion movement.”

    “So proud of the more than 60 students who participated in the #ProLifeWalkout from my high school,” Gulf Breeze High School student Blake Barclay of Florida tweeted, sharing pictures of the gathering. Students in Tennessee tweeted their participation, as well, with updates continuing throughout the day using the hashtag #ProLifeWalkout.

  105. egg_

    Misogyny – tick
    Pedantry – tick
    Stalking – tick

  106. Infidel Tiger

    Dover read this article. It’s touching but also has some very telling comments about our society’s bizarre beliefs on abortion:

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/sydney-swans-star-gary-rohan-shares-heartbreaking-photo-of-wife-amie-and-their-newborn-twins/news-story/c8173544b5d77a474995ebdf1c1c1af8

  107. LNP insider

    nemkat

    #2686117, posted on April 13, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    They’ve given Lilley to Dean Wells’s daughter, who ”works” for Maurice Blackburn.
    The LNP never make any serious attempt to win Griffith, Moreton, and Lilley [although they could], and the ALP appears to run dead in Bowman, Bonner, and the Sunshine Coast Seats.

    ALP targetting Bonner this time.

    After Cole lost Moreton twice they gave up on it. I think they over rate Cole and should try directing serious resources with a different candidate.

  108. IT;

    One can only hope. I have offered them my bosom and hope my kindness is returned.

    Piccies or it didn’t happen.

  109. Robber Baron

    Since we are on the topic of “people that stink”, l had a guy come over to stretch the carpets last week. He did quite a good job by the way.

    He started at 9am and was here for an hour. He was dripping in sweat within 30 minutes and it was not even a warm day. I did notice a distinct pong in the rooms he completed.

    I paid him. He tried to rip me off.

    Some hours later l noticed the smell still in the rooms. I sprayed plenty of air freshener…the smell refused to budge. I opened up all the doors and windows. I could still detect the smell. It reminded me of the Seinfeld episode when he could not get rid of the smell in his car. Well, the Turkish lad was in that league.

    The smell has either gone or it’s still there but l no longer notice it.

    I nominate the Turks.

  110. OldOzzie

    Media Watch Dog: ABC pot calling kettle black

    Gerard Henderson

    STOP PRESS

    ● WHAT THE F – ABC ENDORSES THE USE OF THE BAD LANGUAGE IF THE COMEDIC TARGET IS A MALE CONSERVATIVE

    There was enormous interest in last week’s count of how Shaun Micalleff’s Mad as Hell was catching up with Tonightly with Tom Ballard in the ABC’s Bad Language stakes.

    MWD reported exclusively last week that the “F” word was used on four occasions on Mad as Hell compared with five occasions on Tonightly. Close. But last evening Tonightly forged ahead with 10 uses of the “F” word compared with a mere one on Mad as Hell on Wednesday.

    Meanwhile an avid reader has advised that ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs has cleared ABC’s Tonightly for its frequent use of the “C” word on its program on 15 March 2018. Re which see MWD Issue 398.

    Before coming to its finding, ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs enticed ABC Entertainment & Specialist (yes, such an entity exists) into a boring analysis of the use of the “C” word before it concluded that the whole thing was a “joke”. A finding which ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs endorsed. In fact, the only funny thing about the whole episode is the way that bureaucrats at the taxpayer funded public broadcaster handled this situation – including the fact that while clearing the program ABC Entertainment & Specialist apologised to the Australian Conservatives (male) candidate who was called the “C” word. How about that?

    MWD found this particular finding by ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs quite mirth-inducing:

    This sketch itself was a provocative piece of comedy stimulated by coverage of the Batman by-election. The sketch found its humour in the exaggerated contrast between Greg Larsen’s dour persona, his outrageously inappropriate proposal for renaming the electorate, and his disproportionate response after an interview request was declined. The sketch played on recurring comedic tropes involving exaggeration and insensitivity that would be familiar to the program’s target audience. The language was used to amplify these themes.

    MWD agrees that the program’s target audience would be familiar with Tonightly’s “recurring comedic tropes” – whatever that might mean. Except for the fact that many of the program’s target audience are pissed or stoned by 9 pm each night and not able to distinguish comedy from trope. And why not? – when the only alternative is your man Tom (“Get F-cked”) Ballard.

    ● BUZZFEED’S ALICE WORKMAN BANGS ON ABOUT TONY ABBOTT – QUELLE SURPRISE!

    For evidence that the ABC remains a Conservative Free Zone without one conservative presenter, producer or editor on any of its prominent television, radio or online outlets – consider Radio National Breakfast. This is presented by Fran (“I’m an activist”) Kelly. Today, however, Hamish MacDonald was in the presenter’s chair when the following exchange took place:

    Hamish MacDonald: Tony Abbott also chiming in on immigration this week – no great surprise there. But interesting timing.

    Alice Workman: Oh absolutely. Some classic wrecking, sniping and undermining here from the former prime minister.

    RN Breakfast has five political commentators – one for every working day. Namely Michelle Grattan, Paul Bongiorno, Peter Van Onselen, Phil Coorey and Alice Workman. Ms Grattan and Mr Coorey are your basic Press Gallery reporters while Mr Bongiorno and Ms Workman are leftists. Mr Van Onselen is not on the left but he is a vehement opponent of social conservatives like Tony Abbott.

    What Alice Workman (the Parliament House bureau chief for Buzzfeed News) had to say this morning – without challenge – is that former prime minister Tony Abbott should not express his views on immigration. If he does, he is a wrecker, a sniper and an underminer. No doubt Bonge and PVO would agree.

    The only time a conservative would get into the ABC studio in Ultimo Sydney is if he or she got lost on their way to the headquarters of the newly formed Centre for Western Civilisation.

    CAN YOU BEAR IT?

    ● NEWS BREAKFAST’S “WHITE BREAD” BREAKFAST

    Did anyone see the appearance of the Australian Human Rights Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane on the ABC News Breakfast program on Wednesday? Dr Soutphommasane (for a doctor he is) was speaking about the Australian Human Rights Commission’s latest report titled Leading for Change. It reveals that 97 per cent of chief executives in Australia have an Anglo-Celtic or European background.

    News Breakfast illustrated your man Soutphommasane’s interview with News Breakfast’s Virginia Trioli by showing photos of some of Australia’s leading chief executives who have an Anglo-Celtic or European background. The little list included Wesfarmers’ Richard Goyder – who stepped down from this position in 2017. Oh well, it was early in the morning.

    La Trioli condemned the situation as a “drop-the-microphone moment” and added: “Oh boy, it’s white bread.” However, the microphone was not dropped. Just as well. For News Breakfast that very morning was White Bread Squared. The program’s co-presenters (Michael Rowland & Virginia) are white as were the sports presenters (Paul Kennedy, Mary Gearin & Georgie Tunny) and the finance presenter (Rachel Pupazzoni) and the weatherman (Nate Byrne) and the music critic (Zan Rowe). Talk about White Bread for this lot – except Ms Trioli did not go there.

    Also, as MWD’s latter-day fave Mark Latham is wont to point out, Tim Soutphommasane has never complained about the fact that at least 90 per cent of students at some selective public schools in New South Wales are of Asian or Sub-Continental background. In Dr Soutphommasane’s eyes this does not represent a situation of inequality and a lack of diversity with respect to Australian or Anglo Celtic or European background.

    A real microphone-dropping situation to be sure. But did La Trioli or Dr S. mention this inequality on News Breakfast? Not on your nelly. Can You Bear It?

    ● DAVID MARR’S OBSESSION WITH CATHOLICISM (CONTINUED)

    The ratings were high for the pre-Easter edition of the ABC TV Insiders program – with David Marr, Laura Tingle and Jackie’s (male) co-owner “on the couch”. It seems that thousands upon thousands, upon thousands of viewers tuned in to see David Marr do (yet another) rant about the Catholic Church.

    You see, during his two last appearances on Insiders in 2017, your man Marr used the “final comment” segment to condemn the Catholic sacrament of penance (17 November 2017) and berate the Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide, Archbishop Philip Wilson (3 December 2017). Mr Marr’s comments on the Catholic sacrament of confession were hopelessly ill-informed, as Gerard Henderson pointed out in his Weekend Australian column on 31 March 2018. But then your man Marr went to an Anglican institution of the Low Church – or Protestant – tradition. If he had gone to an Anglican school of the High Church disposition – all would have been different. Alas.

    This is what David Marr had to say about Archbishop Philip Wilson on 3 December 2017:

    David Marr: Sad news this week that the archbishop, Catholic Archbishop of Adelaide Ian [sic] Wilson was too ill with Alzheimer’s Disease to front for his criminal trial in Newcastle. But the upside to it is that he still feels capable of soldiering on as Archbishop of Adelaide. So, it’s a testament, at least, to his strength.

    Barrie Cassidy: And a touch of sarcasm.

    The fact is that Archbishop Philip Wilson is reported to have early stages of Alzheimer’s. He attempted, unsuccessfully, to have charges against him dropped – of having failed to report an instance of clerical child sexual abuse some four decades ago when he was a young assistant priest in the Hunter region of NSW. The Crown also asserts that Philip Wilson should have acted on this (alleged) knowledge of the 1976 crime in 2000 or thereabouts. The case turns on memory of (alleged) conversations of decades ago – the recall of two complainants and that of Archbishop Wilson.

    In the event, it was decided by Newcastle Local Court this week that the matter should go to trial. Whereupon Archbishop Wilson elected to give evidence concerning the charges against him – a step that he did not have to take. So, David Marr’s (sarcastic) implication that Philip Wilson is capable of soldiering on as an archbishop but not as a defendant was just tosh. Can You Bear It?

    NEW FEATURE: JACKIE CAMPAIGNS FOR DAVID MARR’S ADMISSION TO THE OH-SO-EXCLUSIVE QANTAS CHAIRMAN’S LOUNGE

    While on the topic of David Marr, it is MWD’s melancholy duty to report that, as he left the Qantas Club in Melbourne on his way to board the midday Qantas flight to Sydney after his 25 March appearance on Insiders, Mr Marr passed Alan Joyce’s Chairman’s Lounge. He may not have known this since – in the best tradition of gentlemen’s clubs in London, Melbourne, Sydney and Dublin – such institutions do not carry signage. Apparently, an absence of signage keeps the riff-raff away.

    Qantas chief executive officer Alan Joyce is in the vanguard of advancing equality and ending discrimination throughout the land of his adopted country. However, it appears that the invitation-only Qantas Chairman’s Lounge will be the final bastion of privilege destined to fall in the Joyce War Against Privilege. Well, someone has to be last.

    This is your man Marr’s opportunity. According to the Australian Financial Review’s “Rear Window” column of 20 March 2018, Channel 10’s Lisa Wilkinson (aka Mrs Red Bandannaed One) is a member of Mr Joyce’s exclusive Chairman’s Lounge. So why not David Marr? – who is as fine a journalist as Ms Wilkinson and has written more books. Your man Marr would certainly liven up the Chairman’s Lounge which – on the one occasion Hendo gained entry to this holy-of-privileged-holies affair per courtesy of one of Mr Joyce’s faves – seemed somewhat, well, stultified.

    In MWD’s view, the fact that Ms Wilkinson is “in” the Chairman’s Lounge while Mr Marr is “out” – can no longer be tolerated in democratic Australia.

    Please support Jackie’s campaign to get David Marr a guernsey in Alan Joyce’s Chairman’s Lounge.

    NEW FEATURE: MOST PROMINENT EYE-ROLL OF THE WEEK

    ● “JUMPING-IN” LA TRIOLI STARS ON Q&A

    It was the usual leftist audience stack when the Q&A team rocked up to the Drum Theatre in the Melbourne suburb of Dandenong last Monday.

    Q&A presenter Tony Jones was a late scratching due to illness – he was replaced by ABC TV News Breakfast co-presenter (and MWD fave) Virginia Trioli. The panel comprised Victoria Police Commander Stuart Bateson, Labor’s Shadow Minister for Justice Clare O’Neil, the Minister for Citizen and Multicultural Affairs Alan Tudge, lawyer and local community advocate Nyadol Nyuon and Herald-Sun crime reporter and author Andrew Rule.

    It was soon obvious that Ms Nyuon and Ms O’Neil (who is the Federal Labor Party member for Hotham) were the audience favourites – especially when discussion turned on ethnic gangs in the Dandenong area. A glimpse of the atmosphere was provided when La Trioli called for a question, which was scheduled, from audience member Kim-Anh Do. Let’s go to the transcript:

    Kim-Anh Do: My question is directed to Alan – in light of the comments you made about places such as Dandenong being cultural bubbles for migrants. So, Alan, do you think that the geographical concentration of newly arrived migrants is linked more to the affordability of housing, accessibility to familiar food, religious structures and known friends and family rather than any unwillingness to integrate or commit to Australian values?

    Alan Tudge: Thank you for the question. I didn’t refer to Dandenong in that way that you described.

    Virginia Trioli: You did, I’ve got to jump-in. You did refer to Dandenong as a place that had such a high concentration of people born overseas.

    Alan Tudge: Exactly, but I didn’t use that particular term. And Dandenong does have a high proportion of people born overseas as well as almost one in five who don’t speak English very well. I made a speech a couple of weeks ago referring to the great Australian multicultural success story which has been built on integration – not on assimilation where you have to give up your heritage, nor separatism where communities sit side by side one another. But integration where we merge together, learn from one another, work together, share experiences.

    Alan Tudge, besides being “jumped-in” by La Trioli, was correct. He had not said that some Dandenong residents exhibit an “unwillingness to integrate or commit to Australia”. The questioner just made this up – with a little help from the Q&A executive producer Peter McEvoy who approved the question.

    Jumping-in aside, La Trioli’s attitude to Alan Tudge’s comments on multiculturalism was expressed with a disapproving EYE ROLL.

    ABBOTT PHOBIA CLINIC

    IN WHICH NURSE JACKIE ANALYSES CRIKEY’S COMRADE GUY RUNDLE

    This (hugely popular) segment is devoted to helping out public figures – including journalists – who have contracted a serious dose of Abbott-phobia. Sufferers of this condition present as normal individuals who become temporarily unhinged when confronting the real or spoken or written word about Tony Abbott. Some attempt to blame their own particular Vale of Tears on Australia’s 28th prime minister – while others lose their sense of judgment with respect to Tony Abbott or his family. It’s a complicated condition. That’s why Nurse Jackie (Dip. Wellness, The Gunnedah Institute) is here to help.

    Last Friday, Crikey ran a piece by its correspondent-at-large Guy Rundle titled “Abbott is a joke, a backbench gargoyle seemingly addicted to failure”.

    Now, Comrade Rundle is Hendo’s favourite Marxist comedian. Even so, every now and then, he is neither Marxist nor funny. In his Crikey piece, your man Rundle referred to the late B. A. Santamaria, Edmund Burke, Joseph de Maistre, Tertullian, Pope Julius II, Savonarola, Guy Crouchback, Iago and Jack Lang – a mixture of real and fictional characters, many of whom Crikey readers would not be familiar with. [Are you sure of this? Surely every sandal-wearing Crikey reader knows Julius II (1443-1515) and the way he sold Indulgences to build the Basilica of St Peter in Rome. – MWD Editor.]

    Rundle’s rant, which could have been written around Hangover Time, focused on Tony Abbott’s Catholicism. Yawn. His theory is that Mr Abbott is devoted to failure. A surprising theory about a politician who fought so hard to win the 2013 election, don’t you think?

    This is what Crikey’s correspondent-at-large had to say early in his rant:

    Whatever else Tony Abbott has or has not, fidelity he’s got. But what is it fidelity to? The man appeared in our national politics as a graduate of the Santamaria school of insurgents, championing a form of social conservatism more inflected with continental Catholic European reaction than most. In 2009, this writer noted, that those who sought to assimilate Abbott’s politics to an Anglo-American Burkean conservative tradition had it hopelessly wrong: Abbott’s social imagination was in the spirit of The Executioner, De Maistre’s key text of European conservatism. Nothing since has served to prove that wrong. Abbott’s final, fatal screw-up — offering a knighthood to Sir Prince Philip — was in De Maistre’s spirit.

    Society, in this conspectus, must have transcendent institutions, created in a spirit of fidelity to the ideal, defending it from all comers. Absurdity is no disqualification; quite the contrary. “I believe it because it is absurd,” the early church father Tertullian noted of faith in the Trinity. Devotion to the ideal of Sir Prince Philip is simply the milk-and-water earthly reflection of that for a Catholic knight stuck in an Anglican polity, and making the best of it.

    What a load of absolute tosh. By the way, Tony Abbott is not a Catholic knight. Comrade Rundle just made this up. MWD did not support Tony Abbott’s decision to give Prince Philip a Knight Order of Australia. However, many nations have given Prince Philip a knighthood, including New Zealand, without acting in the spirit of De Maistre. Here’s how Crikey’s Marxist comedian finished his over-written rant:

    Abbott has been a would-be Pope Julius II, Savonarola, De Maistre, a Guy Crouchback, latterly an Iago, of which Australian politics has no shortage. But now one has to raid popular culture for a register: he is Gareth/Dwight Schrute from The Office, the awkward, perpetual work-around man, fantasising secret missions in the reserve army that will not have him.

    The truth is, that beneath the religious sanctity, the purity of spirit that Abbott seeks through serial failure, is a less creditable motive: pure, modern, secular narcissism. Abbott perhaps believed that he could go to the backbench and be some sort of austere presence of principle, a Jack Lang, throwing a long shadow. But he is the exact opposite: a joke, a gargoyle hanging among the buttresses of the backbenches, a jester whose outsize features are redolent of Mr Punch. To call Abbott and his new companion Barnaby Joyce “Statler and Waldorf” is an insult to muppets. At least the muppets can keep a show on the road. Time to move on Tone, for our sake and yours. It isn’t funny any more.

    Nurse Jackie’s Analysis

    Crikey’s Guy Rundle presents as a wearisome insecure name-dropper who likes to flash his alleged knowledge about the likes of Savonarola and De Maistre. This appears to be a condition he developed as a student at Brighton Grammar all those years ago. There is also evidence of the psychological condition of projection. Your man Rundle is projecting the fact that he is not funny anymore to matters Abbott. I would recommend that, before writing his next long prolix column for Crikey, Comrade Rundle is provided with half a dozen Gin & Tonics. This should diminish his need to name drop. If not, add more Gin.

    FIVE PAWS AWARD

    ● STEP FORWARD ANDREW RULE FOR NAILING JUSTICE LEX LASRY’S PRESUMPTION

    As mentioned earlier, the baying mob that is the Q&A audience was in no mood to listen to any panel member who suggested that there might be a problem with African crime gangs in Melbourne. When Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said recently that some people in Melbourne were terrified at the prospect of going out at night – he was mocked by the self-proclaimed progressives of Melbourne. Most notably by Victoria Supreme Court judge, Lex Lasry.

    Let’s go to the transcript when Virginia Trioli asked Herald Sun journalist Andrew Rule about the issue on Q&A last Monday:

    Andrew Rule: I think Peter Dutton was ill-advised in using that sort of hyperbole. However, I can see why people do use that sort of hyperbole. What I thought was also ill-advised was the judge, who shall remain nameless, who tweeted from a restaurant in Mansfield – you know, basically the snow capital of Victoria, where wealthy, middle-class judges with vintage Porsches that they race on weekends drive up there and drink $200 bottles of pinot noir and then, after having consumed a couple,….tweets out something silly like: “There are citizens out for dinner in Mansfield.”

    Well, there are. But that really misses the point. It’s the citizens of some other places who, with due respect to everybody, were feeling the pinch a bit – because there were car-jackings, there were home invasions, there were serious things that did for a while, 18 months ago, a year ago, become the subject of conversation everywhere I went. And for good reason – because it was happening. And everybody knew somebody that had had a brush with it, including me.

    It’s about time that someone called out Justice Lex Lasry for declaring that the good (affluent) Melbourne folk visiting Mansfield (which is a country town to the north of Melbourne) feel safe in their expensive restaurants at night and implying that this is somehow relevant to those of lesser means who live in, say, Dandenong.

    Andrew Rule: Five Paws

    ● “THE MOCKER” NAILS THE RED BANDANNAED ONE

    Jackie’s co-owners are out and proud republicans who believe that Australia should have an Australian head of state.

    However, MWD has argued for eons that Australians will never vote to replace the Monarch while the Australian Republic Movement is led by a middle-aged man who wears a red rag on his head. To wit, Fairfax Media columnist Peter FitzSimons – the Red Bandannaed One.

    So it came as no surprise when the Newspoll in The Australian last Tuesday revealed that opposition to Australia becoming a republic has reached its highest level in nearly two decades. All on the watch of ARM chairman Peter FitzSimons.

    The Australian yesterday carried Mocker’s “An Open Letter to Peter FitzSimons” which includes a new set of words to Billy Joel’s Piano Man – for example:

    It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday

    And Bandana Man gives us a smile

    ‘Cause he thinks that it’s he we’ve been coming to see

    Talk his usual predictable bile

    And so on. The Mocker goes on to document Fitz’s habit of mocking the religious views of such Christians as Israel Folau and Margaret Court while never sneering at such high profile Muslims as Anthony Mundine.

    The Mocker: Five Paws

    OUTSIDE OUTSIDERS

    ● ROSS CAMERON COMPARES THERESA MAY TO CLEOPATRA – WHO INVENTED “FAKE NEWS”, IT SEEMS

    Jackie’s (male) co-owner watches the ABC TV Insiders program at 9 am on Sundays. In other words, Hangover Time. So, he pre-records the 9 am and 10 am Outsiders programs on Sky News and watches them in a block.

    Unfortunately, last Sunday neither co-presenters Ross Cameron and Rowan Dean nor the (witty) Sky News newsreader Jaynie Seal discussed at length books they have not read. A pity, really. But there’s always next Sunday and, alas, the Sunday after that. Here’s hoping that next Sunday Ms Seal will bring us up-to-date with her views on Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein’s 1953 masterpiece Philosophical Investigations – and offer a reason why the Vienna-born philosopher never cited Marcus Aurelius in his tome.

    However, all was not lost last Sunday since Ross (“I’m a Marcus Aurelius fan boy”) Cameron led off the program with yet another rant on Russia and the (allegedly) wronged Vladimir Putin. Yawn. Then – in what turned out to be very good news for MWD – your man Cameron’s rant tacked to a discussion about British prime minister Theresa May and her connection to Cleopatra of Antony and Cleopatra fame. Really. Let’s go to the transcript:

    Ross Cameron: Now if we turn to the government of Theresa May, we find a person who came to office having voted to remain in the European bureaucracy when her nation had voted to get out. And so, she was stranded from the first day and she’s brought this completely lacklustre, divided approach – lack of impetus, direction and drive to her government which is completely stranded. And she knows she’s on a kind of political death watch. Her colleagues would prefer any alternative but no obvious alternative presents. And so, when this moment arrives of the Skripal event, the attraction to finding this path out of the bog in which she finds herself was irresistible to her and to Boris Johnson. And I believe they have embraced a big lie which is that Russian intelligence agents used a chemical nerve agent to attempt an assassination on British soil. I think it’s bullshit.

    Cleopatra, 33 BC [sic] – one of the decisive battles of our culture and civilisation, the Battle of Actium, when the Second Triumvirate cobbled together in the power vacuum after the assassination of Julius Caesar. And the question was: “Who would run the world as we then knew it?” And that Triumvirate – with Octavian who would later become Caesar Augustus as one dominant figure, and Mark Antony as the other – met each other finally in a sea battle off Actium on the coast of Greece, with Cleopatra in alliance with Mark Antony. And for reasons that historians don’t understand, Cleopatra’s ships did not engage in the battle. But instead, bolted for the open sea and escaped. And that was – according to most historians – the decisive moment.

    Cleopatra rushed back to safety, was hiding out in the Mausoleum, was fearful that Mark Antony – who had followed her in abandoning the battle – was fearful that he would murder her in the Mausoleum and so she’s desperate. In that axis she was at the moment of weakness, of greatest vulnerability and desperation. She announced to the world that she had committed suicide. And it was then that Mark Antony learnt that news that he was heartbroken, devastated. Fake news – he believed it, acted on it and commenced his own suicide before learning that Cleopatra was still alive. And he insisted on being taken to the Mausoleum where it is said that he died in her arms. William Shakespeare wrote the play Antony and Cleopatra in about 1607 to memorialise this tragic moment of weakness – of fake news.

    And I’m saying to you that while Theresa May may not be Cleopatra in a range of other respects, she is Cleopatra in her levels of desperation, her willingness to embrace the big lie. And as one citizen in one allied country, I’m just saying I don’t buy it. There you go.

    Yep – there you go. Or, rather, there he went. Last Sunday, there was considerable news. At home, the Newspoll was approaching what could (and did) lead to Malcolm Turnbull’s thirtieth Newspoll in a row in which the Coalition trailed Labor. Meanwhile in the Middle East, there was tension on the Gaza-Israel border. And yet Ross Cameron led off Outsiders last Sunday with a garrulous rant on Russia which led to a Year 12 Essay-style lecture about Antony and Cleopatra. Or was it Cleopatra and Antony?

    According to the Outsiders co-presenter, it was Cleopatra who invented FAKE NEWS when she announced her (alleged) suicide all those centuries ago. This despite the fact that the woman in question did not run a media outlet. And according to your man Cameron, the British prime minister Theresa May is into a Cleopatra-style BIG LIE. His evidence? None at all. After all, why let facts spoil a good rant?

    ● ROSS CAMERON’S (CONSPIRACY) THEORY ON WHY THE BAIL-JUMPER JULIAN ASSANGE WON’T TAKE A WALK IN THE SUN

    It was much the same at the start of Outsiders’ second hour when Ross Cameron did another rant – this time in support of Julian Assange, who appears to have taken up a post as Australian plenipotentiary to the government of Ecuador, London Branch (right around the corner from Harrods). This is part of what he had to say:

    Ross Cameron: From New York to Italy to journalist from La Repubblica newspaper, Stefania Maurizi, who has previously joined us on Outsiders when she led the campaign asking the UK government to hand over information relating to the detention of Australian citizen Julian Assange. She was unsuccessful in extracting information from – well she got some, but not much because we learnt the UK crown prosecutor’s office had deleted a whole tranche of emails from the key executive managing the effort – the collusive effort – between the UK, the US and the Swedish government to make sure Julian Assange was kept without sunlight.

    What a load of absolute tosh. There is no evidence that the governments of Britain, the United States and Sweden have colluded “to make sure Julian Assange was kept without sunlight”. The fact is that your man Assange skipped bail in England and voluntarily entered the Embassy of Ecuador in London to escape justice. In short, Julian Assange has kept himself out of the sun.

    Julian Assange seems to believe that if he rails at the British government he will get what he wants. It’s called delusional behaviour. The easiest way for your man Assange to get sunlight is to hand himself over to English authorities and accept what penalty a judge hands down for skipping bail. Then he could appear as a mystery guest on Outsiders and talk to Ross Cameron about what a great chap Vladimir Putin is and how the creation of new Russian Empire would be good for all of us (while acknowledging the historical importance of Marcus Aurelius).

    CORRESPONDENCE

    IN WHICH THE ABC’S LOUISE MILLIGAN FINALLY RESPONDS TO ONE – JUST ONE – OF GERARD HENDERSON’S QUESTIONS

    This overwhelmingly popular segment of Media Watch Dog usually works like this. Someone or other thinks it would be a you-beaut idea to write to Gerard Henderson about something or other. And Hendo, being a courteous and well-brought up kind of guy, replies. Then, hey presto, the correspondence is published in MWD – much to the delight of its avid readers.

    There are occasions, however, when Nancy’s (male) co-owner decides to write a polite note to someone or other – who, in turn, believes that a reply is in order. Publication in MWD invariably follows. There are, alas, some occasions where Hendo sends a polite missive but does not receive the courtesy of a reply. Nevertheless, publication of this one-sided correspondence still takes place. For the record – and in the public interest, of course.

    As MWD readers are aware, The Guardian Australia’s deputy editor Katharine Murphy put out the following tweet on 6 June 2014 at 4.33 pm – when that issue of MWD was “hot off the press”. Here is Ms Murphy’s tweet: “Without in any way wanting to breach anyone’s human rights or free speech – why do people write emails to Gerard Henderson?” It’s a very good question. Thankfully, not everyone follows Katharine Murphy’s wise counsel – not even Ms Murphy herself (See MWD Issue 297).

    GERARD HENDERSON AND SALLY JACKSON re LOUISE MILLIGAN OUTSIDE JON FAINE’S THE CONVERSATION HOUR

    There was enormous interest in the “Documentation” section of last week’s MWD which re-printed Gerard Henderson’s eleven questions of 6 June 2017 to ABC star reporter Louise Milligan concerning her book Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of George Pell (MUP, 2017). Ms Milligan refused to answer any of the straightforward questions and, instead, sought protection of her publisher – the formidable Louise Adler. Ms Adler told Hendo that everything in Cardinal was correct and Ms Milligan did not have to answer any questions about her research or her writing in this instance. [Convenient, eh? Where do authors get publishers like the formidable Ms Adler? – outside of MUP of course. – MWD Editor.]

    However, Louise Milligan did subject herself to soft interviews with some of her besties at the ABC. Including Jon Faine’s The Conversation Hour where the author was interviewed by Mr Faine on 17 May 2017. MWD published this photo last week of Louise Milligan with a guest who was interviewed after her along with a co-presenter.

    Here’s the photo:

    That’s Louise Milligan in the middle, Magistrate Belinda Wallington on the left and Lyn Allison on the right. The photo was taken outside the ABC’s Southbank studio in Melbourne.

    It turned out that, last Saturday, the Herald Sun’s “Page 13” ran a version of the same photo with the heading “Magistrate’s Radio Chat Causes Conversation Over Pell Case”. Alice Coster’s piece commenced as follows: “This is the photo that has legal eagles in a fine flap with one describing events surrounding it as ‘gobsmacking’.”

    After reading the Herald Sun, Gerard Henderson wrote to Sally Jackson (the ABC’s media manager) concerning the comments she gave to the Herald Sun with respect to Louise Milligan. Now read on:

    Gerard Henderson to Sally Jackson – 11 April 2018

    Good morning Sally

    I am interested in your comment which was quoted by Alice Coster in the Herald Sun’s print edition of Saturday 7 April 2018 concerning ABC journalist Louise Milligan.

    As you will be aware, last Saturday the Herald Sun printed a photo of Magistrate Belinda Wallington and Louise Milligan outside the ABC’s Southbank studio in May 2017. In my Media Watch Dog blog last Friday (5 April 2018), I published an uncropped version of this photo which included Lyn Allison.

    Alice Coster concluded her “Page 13” piece as follows:

    Magistrates Court spokeswoman Sharon Rainsbury said the issue had been declared and neither the prosecution nor defence had sought to have Wallington recused. ABC spokeswoman Sally Jackson said that Milligan and Wallington never discussed the case.

    “(They) were interviewed on ABC radio as part of Law Week in May 2017, before any charges were laid against Cardinal George Pell,” Ms Jackson said.

    “They did not discuss specific allegations against Cardinal Pell, on air or off. They have not spoken before or since that interview.”

    According to this report, you told the Herald Sun that Ms Wallington and Ms Milligan never discussed the Cardinal George Pell case when they met at the ABC. As you know, when the photograph was taken on 15 May 2017 no charges had been laid against Cardinal George Pell by Victoria Police. So, in this sense, there was no “case” at the time.

    You are subsequently quoted in direct speech as having said that Louise Milligan and Belinda Wallington “did not discuss specific allegations against Cardinal Pell [emphasis added].”

    I accept that Ms Milligan and Ms Wallington did not discuss “specific allegations” with respect to Cardinal Pell. My question is a broader one.

    Namely, did Ms Milligan and Ms Wallington exchange any comments of any kind on Louise Milligan’s book Cardinal: The Rise and Fall of George Pell (MUP, 2017). As you will be aware, Ms Milligan was invited on to Jon Faine’s The Conversation Hour to discuss her recently published book – and the photograph was taken either before or after her interview with Jon Faine.

    To repeat, what is a straight forward question. Did Ms Milligan engage in any conversation with Ms Wallington about the book Cardinal when they met at the ABC on 15 May 2017? A simple “yes” or “no” answer will suffice.

    I look forward to a response by no later than the close of business this Thursday.

    Best wishes

    Gerard Henderson

    Sally Jackson to Gerard Henderson – 12 April 2018

    Hi Gerard. Louise has no recollection of discussing the book. I haven’t got a transcript of the interview so I’m not sure if it was discussed on air.

    Regards.

    Gerard Henderson to Sally Jackson – 12 April 2018

    Sally

    Thanks.

    I note that Louise Milligan has “no recollection” of having discussed her book Cardinal with Magistrate Belinda Wallington when they were photographed outside ABC’s Southbank studio in May 2017.

    Best wishes

    Gerard

    * * * * *

    A NOTE FROM THE MWD EDITOR

    Louise Milligan says she has “no recollection” of such a discussion having taken place. It’s a version of the “I cannot recall” response which many a journalist criticises. We’ll keep avid readers advised of any future developments.

    * * * * * *

    Until next time.

  111. John Constantine

    Artificial intelligence should be able to do cricket commentary with the voices of deceased commentators from the good old days.

    When you get tired of the querty quota roster of announcers, just dial in Skynet to change to Christopher Martin-Jenkins and John Arlott and Malcom McGregor and David Hookes building the picture.

  112. Knuckle Dragger

    That has to be the longest post ever.

  113. Gab

    Long slabs of italics is very hard to read and rather uninviting.

  114. Marty

    “That has to be the longest post ever.”
    Media Watchdog is behind the Australian paywall but it is also here

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Henderson is a laborious read at the best of times, but many here seem to froth over pedantry.

    The curmudgeon holds a grudge that puts an Albanian blood feud to shame.

  116. nemkat

    Henderson doesn’t mind giving free publicity to the ABC.
    He’s been doing it for years.

  117. egg_

    Alice Workman: Oh absolutely. Some classic wrecking, sniping and undermining here from the former prime minister.

    She’s almost as bad as Van Badass with Abbott666 derangement syndrome.

  118. Entropy

    At 10:00 a.m. for each school’s local time on Wednesday, students left class to gather for seventeen minutes of silent witness for the ten children aborted by Planned Parenthood in that time period, and the more than 60 million babies killed since Roe v. Wade legalized abortion in 197

    Expel the malingerers! Doesn’t matter what the cause is for, go to school, learn something useful. Activism isn’t a useful thing.

  119. egg_

    Artificial intelligence should be able to do cricket commentary with the voices of deceased commentators from the good old days.

    Should be selectable like your NAV – Richard Burton or Laurence Olivier?

  120. C.L.
    #2685629, posted on April 13, 2018 at 10:20 am
    The woman on the left is the head of rugby union in Australia.
    Seriously.

    She’s a Goth.
    You know, those people who enjoy watching the terminal demise of institutions they are part of.

  121. Lizzie and Hendo have very different opinions about Ross Cameron.

  122. Questions arising from the Commonwealth Games.
    Why do black athletes use black ink on their tattoos?
    Why doesn’t Bruce McAvaney raise the Caster Semenya controversy?

  123. egg_

    Gerard nailed Ballard’s low brow ‘humour’.

  124. stackja

    Julie’s shame: MasterChef winner busted drink-driving after fleeing RBT
    Richard Noone, EXCLUSIVE, Central Coast Gosford Express Advocate
    April 13, 2018 5:41pm
    Subscriber only

    INAUGURAL MasterChef winner and popular Star 104.5 morning radio host Julie Goodwin has been busted drink-driving after doing a runner to avoid a roadside breath test.

    Brisbane Water Chief Inspector Nigel Webber confirmed officers were conducting a roadside RBT on the Pacific Highway at North Gosford as part of Operation Merret about 8pm last night when they saw Goodwin’s distinctive Mini Cooper — with personalised plates `cookin’ — approach.

    “Police will allege a Mini Cooper sedan approached the RBT site before conducting a U-turn and driving away,” Chief Insp Webber said.

    Police gave chase and located Goodwin and her car in a nearby side street, close to her restaurant and cooking school Julie’s Place.

    Chief Insp Webber confirmed “a 47-year-old woman from Niagara Park” failed a road side breath test before being arrested and taken to Gosford Police Station.

    Back at the station Goodwin returned a blood alcohol reading of 0.107 — more than double the legal limit.

    She was charged with mid range drink-driving and her licence was suspended on the spot.

    Chief Insp Webber said she was not charged over trying to flee the RBT.

  125. JC

    Big night tonight in stock land. JP Morgan starts the quarterly reporting rush hour. It could be yuge.

  126. Infidel Tiger

    A woman her size must have drunk a hogshead of Rae’s cheap supermarket sparkling to get to that reading.

  127. H B Bear

    Nothing mini about Julie.

  128. Splatacrobat

    Pride Parade Bans Drag Queens Over Fears They’ll Offend Trans People

    Free Pride Glasgow, which bills itself as being a “non-commercial” and more open-minded alternative to the traditional Glasgow LGBT pride events, is taking drastic steps to prevent the oppression of marginalized peoples, banning drag queens from its annual parade.

    After extensive consideration, the Free Pride Glasgow committee members decided that having men dressed as women giving stellar performances during the event would be offensive to transgender individuals, and that non-binary people within their ranks would be “uncomfortable with having drag performances.”

    The left eating itself again with ideological sectarianism.
    While they are at it they should ban bisexuals as they are not pure in their sexual deviancy. Double agents with a finger in the heterosexual pie so to speak.

  129. Splatacrobat

    Judge Allows Men to Challenge Male-Only Draft

    HOUSTON (CN) — The National Coalition for Men can proceed with its class action lawsuit challenging the government’s men-only mandate for registering for the military draft, a federal judge ruled on Friday.

    Although the U.S. military is now an all-volunteer force, to stay prepared for a major war the Military Select Service Act requires men age 18 to 25 to register with the Select Service System.

    The government held its last draft, for the Vietnam War, in 1973.

    All men, including undocumented immigrants, who do not register and keep their contact information current can be sentenced to five years in prison, fined up to $250,000 and be disqualified from federal financial aid and citizenship, though no man has been prosecuted for failing to register since the 1980s.

    The National Coalition for Men, represented by Marc Angelucci in Los Angeles, sued the Select Service System in April 2013, claiming the male-only draft registration rule is unconstitutional gender discrimination. The Pentagon in January 2013 lifted a ban on women serving in front-line combat positions.

    The coalition seeks an injunction ordering the government to make both men and women register for the draft.

    As of February there were 213,851 women in the military, about 16 percent of the 1.3 million total members, according to the Department of Defense.

    All things being equal, all combat units should be made up equally of men and women.

    I used to argue against such a move because I thought incorrectly there was something distasteful in sending women to their deaths, thus putting at risk the future growth of society by diminished reproduction.

    I’m man enough to admit this stance was wrong and discriminatory sexism. The right for women to die in their droves in battle certainly outweighs the responsibility of 18- 35 year old women to stay safe and mother the next generation for the future of our society.

    Good one feminism! The unintended consequences of unilateral change to woman’s equality with a premature death in war is certainly an achievement worth celebrating.

  130. Top Ender

    Help! Help!

    Trapped in the lounge room with Mrs TE, who has insisted on watching Alias Grace.

    Not so bad so far though. Red wine heals all.

  131. Mark A

    outweighs the responsibility of 18- 35 year old women to stay safe and mother the next generation for the future of our society.

    many don’t anyway, draft those into the army.

  132. Entropy

    Julie Goodwin climbs into a Mini Cooper?

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not so bad so far though. Red wine heals all.

    Alcohol is your only salvation, Top Ender. You must do your duty, so that, in years to come, men will say “This was his finest hour!”

  134. Julie Goodwin climbs into a Mini Cooper?

    Those things are strong, they can carry a few tonnes of gold bars in the boot & still perform like a rally jeep.

  135. Fat Tony

    Splatacrobat
    #2686171, posted on April 13, 2018 at 9:27 pm
    Good one feminism! The unintended consequences of unilateral change to woman’s equality with a premature death in war is certainly an achievement worth celebrating.

    Bit like a few years back when they won the right to work in underground coal mines – like the blokes.

  136. Indolent

    Donald Trump’s response to James Comey –

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏@realDonaldTrump
    James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR. Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did-until he was, in fact, fired. He leaked CLASSIFIED information, for which he should be prosecuted. He lied to Congress under OATH. He is a weak and…..

    ….untruthful slime ball who was, as time has proven, a terrible Director of the FBI. His handling of the Crooked Hillary Clinton case, and the events surrounding it, will go down as one of the worst “botch jobs” of history. It was my great honor to fire James Comey!

    Tell it how it is Mr. President. No one else will, that’s for sure.

  137. Infidel Tiger

    You can’t help but love Don.

    “Slime ball”

    That is just beautiful.

  138. JC

    It was my great honor to fire James Comey!

    You just gotta love him. His escalation is wonderful.

  139. JC

    He is a weak and untruthful slime ball …

    I wonder how it feels to be called out by the prez like this.

  140. Infidel Tiger

    He is changing things forever. I think that’s great. Even if he completely fucks up, we will never ever go back to obsequious turdlings like Bush and that is a change for the better.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏@realDonaldTrump
    James Comey is a proven LEAKER & LIAR. Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did-until he was, in fact, fired. He leaked CLASSIFIED information, for which he should be prosecuted. He lied to Congress under OATH. He is a weak and…..

    ….untruthful slime ball who was, as time has proven, a terrible Director of the FBI. His handling of the Crooked Hillary Clinton case, and the events surrounding it, will go down as one of the worst “botch jobs” of history. It was my great honor to fire James Comey!

    Soooo …
    What sort of employment reference will I get?

  142. jupes

    He is changing things forever. I think that’s great. Even if he completely fucks up, we will never ever go back to obsequious turdlings like Bush and that is a change for the better.

    Hopefully it will be forever, however the battle with the deep state goes on and who knows how it will end.

    In the meantime let’s just enjoy the most entertaining and greatest politician of our lifetime.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2686193, posted on April 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    He is changing things forever.

    Twenty years ago it was predicted that the internet and social media would revolutionize politics (and society in general) by enabling the by-passing of traditional media.
    Everyone thought that the breakthrough would be forged by twenty-something hipsters, not by a 70 year old orangutan root-rat.
    Comey spends six months writing his tortuous tome and the Donald destroys it with one thumb and 128 characters x 2.

  144. Dover read this article.

    Thank you. Heartbreaking story. You’re right, our communal beliefs about the child in utero are incoherent.

  145. Infidel Tiger

    It is fucking amazing. Can you seriously believe this guy is President?

    I don’t mean that in a bad way. He’s doing everything against his opponents (except public executions) that I used to wish politicians would do and I’m still shocked.

    I just hope he nukes DC before Syria.

  146. Infidel Tiger

    Dover, did you note the pressure from the medical profession?

    Nazis.

    It’s why my targeted 1000 assasinations for a better world includes mainly medical types.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    I just hope he nukes DC before Syria.

    Well, I was trying to enter “Damascus” into the launch codes and I guess I typed “District of Columbia” instead.
    Oops.

  148. Mindfree

    Apologies if this has been posted before

  149. Steve trickler.

    Robert Mueller. (:



  150. Dover, did you note the pressure from the medical profession?

    Yes. They should be told you can have neonatal wards, research, and the like, or abortion. You cannot have both. Wonder which they’d choose?

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