Open Forum: April 21, 2018

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    57% of Pakistani Britons in the UK are married to their first cousins – and in the city of Bradford it’s 75 per cent.

    Have you ever seen muzzies in bathing costumes? Fuxk me. Mucking around with your sisters and cousins does hdeous things to the gene pool. Sickening physical specimens.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    I think Dam-busters is a winner as a subject for a modern day war movie.
    It has challenging flying routines, technological innovation and the target is infrastructure, not people.
    Sure, there were collateral damage victims downsteam of the dam, but I am sure they can gloss over that …
    Or, make them the total focus of the movie.

  3. lotocoti

    the same extent that the Yanks went in for.

    They made up for it in Gulf War 1.*
    *Trigger warning for the CADF – images may objectify wamens.

  4. Boambee John

    jupes
    #2692886, posted on April 22, 2018 at 7:42 pm
    Coincidently, Dambusters just got a run on FTA.

    Did they cut the scene with Guy Gibson’s dog?

    All there, including multiple uses of the dog’s name.

  5. rickw

    Angus will be angry, Lancaster nose art, Mickey Mouse, Ladies, Kangaroos, SKULLS, MOCKING GERMANS AND NAZIS:

    Appalling that they would characterise themselves as bringers of death to the enemy and mock the enemy! To be honest, Mickey Mouse, Ladies and Kangaroos are also probably a bit off, demeaning to women and animals you know!

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lancaster+nose+art&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=ismvn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=DPsJJ6KnKkuMMM%253A%252CWW_zmqYWYNhtOM%252C_%253B2046ZzLjroR8TM%253A%252CLai7KHpAFw76zM%252C_%253BYQfgEI9SjdOClM%253A%252C-jVg19RSjcXCdM%252C_%253Bx40lE65BfQQw2M%253A%252CGDAAnT9wcY5XUM%252C_%253B-RbD7aNcz_ZXUM%253A%252CMgLFI–MmMaBaM%252C_%253BPMesyjVY83ZXIM%253A%252C-jVg19RSjcXCdM%252C_%253B0x2BbBiT5PGvEM%253A%252CkTcoEdXAd54aeM%252C_%253BavSET95gO6MKeM%253A%252CtHhVUG7X4CJu3M%252C_&usg=__tV8x3Vdrr4ktiymJP1sTauiG_5I%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbuKax1s3aAhUEnpQKHU1pBFIQ7AkINQ&biw=375&bih=553#!H4!/search?q=lancaster%20nose%20art&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=ismvn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=DPsJJ6KnKkuMMM%253A%252CWW_zmqYWYNhtOM%252C_%253B2046ZzLjroR8TM%253A%252CLai7KHpAFw76zM%252C_%253BYQfgEI9SjdOClM%253A%252C-jVg19RSjcXCdM%252C_%253Bx40lE65BfQQw2M%253A%252CGDAAnT9wcY5XUM%252C_%253B-RbD7aNcz_ZXUM%253A%252CMgLFI–MmMaBaM%252C_%253BPMesyjVY83ZXIM%253A%252C-jVg19RSjcXCdM%252C_%253B0x2BbBiT5PGvEM%253A%252CkTcoEdXAd54aeM%252C_%253BavSET95gO6MKeM%253A%252CtHhVUG7X4CJu3M%252C_&usg=__tV8x3Vdrr4ktiymJP1sTauiG_5I%3D&sa=X&biw=375&bih=553

  6. twostix

    57% of Pakistani Britons in the UK are married to their first cousins – and in the city of Bradford it’s 75 per cent

    No wonder the british gentry are in love with them.

  7. stackja

    Tourists at famous French abbey evacuated
    Press Association
    28 minutes ago
    Authorities are evacuating tourists and others from the Mont-Saint-Michel abbey and monument in western France after a visitor apparently threatened to attack security services.

    The national gendarme service said the man made the threat on Sunday on one of the shuttles serving the site, on a peninsula in the English Channel.

    An official with the gendarme service said the threat was vague, but prompted authorities to order an evacuation.

    Police are searching for the man.

    The site is one of the most visited in France, with several thousand tourists a day.

  8. candy

    Is Miranda Devine married or partnered?

    I reckon she thinks she has a chance with Malcolm Turnbull. She’s nice looking and younger. Malcolm could do a Barnaby. I’ve always felt Leigh Sales is in the same boat. They really hanker for that man.

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Angus will be angry, Lancaster nose art, Mickey Mouse, Ladies, Kangaroos, SKULLS, MOCKING GERMANS AND NAZIS:

    Thanks for that, rickw.

  10. jupes

    All there, including multiple uses of the dog’s name.

    Good. However whoever was responsible for programming obviously had never watched the movie.

  11. Boambee John

    Not only did The Dambusters have multiple uses of that naughty word, but many of the cast were SMOKING! Oh, the horror, the humanity!

  12. stackja

    jupes
    #2692949, posted on April 22, 2018 at 8:42 pm
    All there, including multiple uses of the dog’s name.

    Good. However whoever was responsible for programming obviously had never watched the movie.

    The ‘outraged’ may get involved.

  13. jupes

    I have to laugh whenever I hear shit like Julia Gillard was “young and naive” at 36 or when Bolta (semi) forgives Yassmin Magied for being “young” at 27.

    Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

  14. Boambee John

    twostix
    #2692944, posted on April 22, 2018 at 8:40 pm
    57% of Pakistani Britons in the UK are married to their first cousins – and in the city of Bradford it’s 75 per cent

    No wonder the british gentry are in love with them.

    The PC left continually rabbit on about “inbred chinless wonders” in the British gentry, but never voice a word of critisism of inbred Muslims.

    I wonder why?

  15. stackja

    rickw
    #2692943, posted on April 22, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Wellington nose art

  16. Boambee John

    jupes at 2042

    It appears about once every 18 months.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

    Don’t know who it was, but somebody posted here about how Wing Commander Gibson was touring the United States, when there was a big campaign welcoming home the first USAAF crew to complete thirty missions. Gibson was asked how many he had done, IIRC, his answer was over eighty…

  18. jupes

    It appears about once every 18 months.

    Superb movie.

    My mum was a schoolgirl in post war England. When she graduated high school she won an an award and was presented with a book: The Dambusters by Paul Brickhill. I read it multiple times as a kid.

    Can you imagine that happening now?

  19. rickw

    Guy Gibson and crew, probably the best colour photograph there is of them:

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205123900

  20. rickw

    Wellington nose art

    Based on that lot, Angus Campbell is an utter tosser.

  21. stackja

    jupes
    #2692960, posted on April 22, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    My copy of Enemy Coast Ahead is an interesting read with Wallis given nickname and the bomb not described.

  22. Kim H

    Prime Minister Lucy Turnbull arrived looking resplendent in red tracky pants and matching top , later on Prime Minister Lucy was seen alighting from aircraft in Germany in same tracky pants with a different top , proving K mart fashion can be cheap as well as chic , Lucy`s partner the minister for Infogen was by her side , All reports are Lucy has Impotent meetings with Angela Mercel the supreme chancellor of the EU and Germany on buying Carbon credits , windy mills and solar panels , the very thing Germany manufactured and sold to ( suckers ) their own people until the power went out and the manufacturing went to cheaper Chinese production , Thirty years later Germany now builds brown coal fired power stations ( the same brown coal they used in WW11 after the oil embargo ) to do what their windy mills and solar panels wont .
    At least the Germans got the economic benefit and manufacturing whilst the going was good unlike Australia just played like suckers , and how does a Country like Germany maneuverer its economics
    to benefit from its failed green schemes , PARIS ACCORD – enter the minister for Infogen , the Prime Ministers partner Malcolm , talk about family trusts many family`s went to the wall with Government family trust law changes in the 80,s , Now you can have Government sons and daughters and family members Invested in Destroying Australian Company`s , well as long as your a Minister , anything to say ACCC , maybe we need Inspector General Michael Horowitz .
    Do we even have a Inspector General , you know someone that records everything and only acts when the s**t hits the fan .

  23. stackja

    rickw
    #2692962, posted on April 22, 2018 at 9:01 pm
    Pilot Officer P M Spafford, bomb aimer

    Spafford, Frederick Michael (1918–1943)
    by Eric Fry
    This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 16, (MUP), 2002

    Frederick Michael Spafford (1918-1943), air force officer, was born on 16 June 1918 in North Adelaide, only child of James Michael Burke (d.1923), tannery foreman, and his wife Vida Muriel, née Spafford (d.1926), both South Australian born. Little evidence survives of Fred’s childhood and education. On 19 September 1929 he was adopted by his maternal grandfather Frederick Blaker Spafford, a 70-year-old ironworker, and given his surname. In time, he worked as a fitter.

  24. calli

    Greetings from the biz lounge in DXB. Very very nice. It’s 39Glowbull Warmenings outside but these Gaia murderers have the aircon on ultra high.

    Caught up with the latest Star Wars, a couple of Murder Most Horrids (including a substandard Orient Express) and the Churchill one. Oldman was utterly convincing. Shame about the cheesy tube scene, really didn’t advance the plot. I guess younger audiences must wonder how pollies worked out what the punters thought without Like buttons and phone polling.

    Hyde Park Corner and church hall rallies would be a mystery to them.

  25. Muddy

    Great photo, thanks rickw.

  26. Boambee John

    Zulu

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2692958, posted on April 22, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

    Don’t know who it was, but somebody posted here about how Wing Commander Gibson was touring the United States, when there was a big campaign welcoming home the first USAAF crew to complete thirty missions. Gibson was asked how many he had done, IIRC, his answer was over eighty…

    The Dams raid was on 16-17 May 1943. In the film, the crew of the Memphis Belle completed their 25th mission on 17 May 1943, with a raid on Bremen. On 17 May 1943, Memphis Belle went to Lorient.

  27. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for the report, Calli. Keep ’em coming.

  28. I’ll stand up for Zippy, even if m0nty finds me abhorrent.

    Righto then Beau, have at ye.

    Zippy advances three opinions. The first is that Western Civilisation, i.e. European Civilisation, currently dominates the world by virtue of its ideas. This is unarguable. Communism and socialism are Western ideas, if not very good ones. Representative democracy is a Western idea. Between them these political ideas dominate the planet. Western technology is almost universal. You have to be insane to controvert this claim.

    Sure, this is uncontroversial. In fact, you don’t go far enough.

    His second opinion is that this comes from genetics: the European (white, for short) people who produced this astonishing culture were able to do so because of inherited characteristics which are not found to the same degree in other races. This belief was widespread in the nineteenth century and is currently deeply unfashionable. For the m0ntys of the world, this is equivalent to szying it is false, but of course it isn’t. Whether it is true is debatable and should be honestly debated in the West, in accord with the best of our traditions. My view is that there might be a genetic component, but mainly it was dumb luck. I could be wrong. That is to be decided by examining the evidence. Damning Zippy as evil for even thinking this is fatuous.

    This is a bunch of horseshit, Beau. The best traditions of the West came out in World War II, where these specific ideas were consigned to the dustbin of history by our forefathers. Eugenicism is not a frippery that is going to come back into fashion like camel hair jackets or the Charleston. It is an unspeakably evil ethos, borne of bigotry and hatred, which has led in the past to millions of deaths. Trying to construct post hoc pseudoscience justification for your nativism is doomed to intellectual failure.

    The third opinion is the claim that there are still pockets of barbarism left, principally in Africa and the middle East, and that these people are invading Europe. Not by force of arms but by migration. And tbey constitute a threat to European hegemony and indeed to European existence.

    Also rubbish, Beau. This is a crazy conspiracy theory. Where is the foundation document for this conspiracy? You haven’t even identified an Alinsky equivalent, a published template that they all work off. (I guarantee that if you try to identify one from available Internet linkage sources, you are going to sound extremely stupid.) You just assume that we will swallow your assertion that millions of non-white men have suddenly decided to invade as a conquering army without any organisation at all, an entire nation’s worth of weaponless, unarmoured soldiers. You sound like a crank.

    Yes, representative democracy is one of the West’s best ideas, and another one is that the idea of a nation is stronger than any one race within it. Nations are not about race, but the freedoms and rights expressed in that nation’s constitution to which all citizens commit and strive to uphold in their own ways. “Let’s just give rassenhygiene a chance, we’re desperate here,” is not a viable argument, when you are not actually desperate and Western civilisation is not really crumbling to dust.

  29. Makka

    Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

    So young. A truly amazing young man.

  30. DrBeauGan

    M0nty, you are depressingly predictable. Your arguments, your irrelevant distractions, the lot. You have to moralise, and have zero interest in facts.

    I hope you feel better after that. You failed to address a single issue.

  31. Robber Baron

    Newspoll Lib 49 Lab 51.

    Why the bounce? Maol has been out of sight.

  32. The only “issue”, Beau, is that you want the Cat to start chatting about eugenics as if it is normal. It is not normal.

  33. DrBeauGan

    Your big failure, m0nty, is on Zippy’s second thesis. He asserts that genetics is all important in the ability to construct a superior Civilisation. I don’t believe it is more than peripheral myself, but it is either critical or it isn’t. You don’t even discuss the issue. You treat it entirely as an opportunity to do some moral posturing.

    I’m unable to take you seriously. You carry on like a teenage girl.

  34. Leigh Lowe

    Robber Baron

    #2692993, posted on April 22, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    Newspoll Lib 49 Lab 51.

    Why the bounce? Maol has been out of sight.

    Bwah, ha, ha, ha, ha.
    They’ve spent two weeks saying that Abbott sticking his head up on energy etc is “unhelpful”.

  35. JC

    It’s kind of true Monst. You mostly don’t present arguments. You moralize and make sweeping assertions. You should rethink what you’re really doing here.

  36. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    DRBG:

    My view is that there might be a genetic component, but mainly it was dumb luck. I could be wrong. That is to be decided by examining the evidence. .

    monster:

    This is a bunch of horseshit, Beau. The best traditions of the West came out in World War II, where these specific ideas were consigned to the dustbin of history by our forefathers. Eugenicism is not a frippery that is going to come back into fashion like camel hair jackets or the Charleston. It is an unspeakably evil ethos, borne of bigotry and hatred, which has led in the past to millions of deaths. Trying to construct post hoc pseudoscience justification for your nativism is doomed to intellectual failure.

    WTF medication is this dumbass on? How one gets from european exceptionalism to eugenics is a classic in retarded leftthink. Hard to be believe this kid was once a journalist.

  37. Snoopy

    Shorter Monty:

    You have no evidence of mass illegal migration from MENA to Europe because you can’t produce the manifesto.

  38. Motelier

    Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

    Most of them were young and amazing men. Some older ones but generally young. A generation that gave their all in a war that pitted innovation and manufacturing might against fanatasism.

    All have stories that should be held in trust for younger geneations.

  39. DrBeauGan

    You are the only one who has raised the issue of eugenics, m0nty. Not because it is implied at any point, but because it gives you an opportunity to do some moral posturing.

    It’s what you think arguments are all about.

  40. Leo G

    Yes, representative democracy is one of the West’s best ideas, and another one is that the idea of a nation is stronger than any one race within it.

    An idea which appears to have reality only perhaps in Switzerland. Nations such as the USA, Britain and Australia are representative particracies.

  41. Snoopy

    Is there any parliamentarian in the country more stupid than Fiona Patten?

  42. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    How culture shaped the human genome: bringing genetics and the human sciences together
    Researchers from diverse backgrounds are converging on the view that human evolution has been shaped by gene–culture interactions. Theoretical biologists have used population genetic models to demonstrate that cultural processes can have a profound effect on human evolution, and anthropologists are investigating cultural practices that modify current selection. These findings are supported by recent analyses of human genetic variation, which reveal that hundreds of genes have been subject to recent positive selection, often in response to human activities. Here, we collate these data, highlighting the considerable potential for cross-disciplinary exchange to provide novel insights into how culture has shaped the human genome.

  43. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    back from 2008 – this EU program is still going

    A controversial taxpayer-funded “job centre” opened in Mali this week is just the first step towards promoting “free movement of people in Africa and the EU”.

    Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will “need” 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the “demographic decline” due to falling birth rates and rising death rates across Europe. 

    The report, by the EU statistical agency Eurostat, warns that vast numbers of migrants could be needed to meet the shortfall in two years if Europe is to have a hope of funding the pension and health needs of its growing elderly population.

    It states: “Countries with low fertility rates could require a significant number of immigrants over the coming dec­ades if they want to maintain the existing number of people of working age. 

  44. calli

    We really live in the Age of Dumb. I have seen smarter rocks than some of my fellow passengers.

  45. jupes

    Is there any parliamentarian in the country more stupid than Fiona Patten?

    Sarah Hansen-Young?

  46. calli

    Zippy, I keep mistaking you for Lizzie.

    I know. Shoulda gone to Specsavers.

  47. Snoopy

    Sarah Hansen-Young?

    I would have agreed once, but now I’m not sure.

  48. Rae

    There is nothing wrong with the Oxford Comma. I use it frequently. It is useful, sometimes essential, to give the correct cadence to a sentence by emphasising a slight pause after a particular word.

  49. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Zippy, I keep mistaking you for Lizzie.
    I know. Shoulda gone to Specsavers.

    Understandable, Calli. Disintegrating lettering is difficult, and he has brackets as well.
    I hope you have remembered your specs for the Nile temples.
    Those hieroglyphs won’t decipher themselves. 🙂

    Travel well and safely.

  50. Oh come on

    Jayzus.

    Zippy alarmed me with his flippant talk of using Zyklon B indiscriminately to – presumably – do what Zykoln B does when it oxidises and is exposed to large numbers of humans. To a fifth of the world’s population, even. But no. Zippy said this was a joke. A dark one.

    I’m calling bullshit. No, it wasn’t. If you had the chance to pull the trigger on your “joke” – gas all the Muslims, a Final Solution – would you? No fucking about now – retract or fuck off.

  51. You are the only one who has raised the issue of eugenics, m0nty.

    Bullshit, Beau. This is the second thing you mentioned in a nutshell. I used that German word for a reason: it was also used by antecedents of the Nazis to describe policies to maximise exactly that thing you talked about, e.g. Alfred Ploetz.

    I choose to believe you are merely ignorant, Beau, but you should read up on your history.

  52. Snoopy

    Everyone Monty disagrees with is a Nazi.

  53. DrBeauGan

    I shall be charitable and assume you are drunk, m0nty.

    I may have to do that rather frequently.

  54. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’m calling bullshit. No, it wasn’t. If you had the chance to pull the trigger on your “joke” – gas all the Muslims, a Final Solution – would you? No fucking about now – retract or fuck off.

    muzies… mozies… insecticide… zyklon B is in fact an insecticide. do keep up you old drunkard.

    methinks, you have a bee in your little bonnet cause you are one of these males that couldn’t manage a real white female and had to fall back to the submissive asian variety. sad.

  55. zyconoclast

    Some 50 members of migrant caravan reach Mexico, U.S. border

    A group of 50 Central American migrants who set out from southern Mexico in late March have reached the U.S. border, having endured the long journey despite threats by President Donald Trump to secure the border with National Guard personnel.

    Since peaking at around 1,500 people, the so-called migrant “caravan” has dwindled under pressure from Trump and Mexican migration authorities, who vowed to separate those migrants with a right to stay in Mexico from those who did not.

  56. Everyone Monty disagrees with is a Nazi.

    No, just the ones who regurgitate Nazi pseudoscience.

  57. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We all know the history, M0nty, and everyone is cautious regarding genetics and ‘cultural and moral superiority’ theses as there are so many value judgements in the latter and not much evidential certainty in the genetic components either. I’m with Dr. BG, we need freedom to speak of genetic influences but to temper this with enormous caution and to be sure about clear delineation of our terms of reference and debate. Playing on a ten-thousand variables macro field with this stuff is just plain silly, as in Zippy’s speculations, imho (white ‘race’/black ‘race’/Europe/Africa). Small differences, well examined, in minor population groups that are clearly identifiable, and well controlled for confounding variables, these may be of some interest to pursue genetically. They are often medical differences with a bio-genetic expression.

  58. I’m with Dr. BG, we need freedom to speak of genetic influences but to temper this with enormous caution and to be sure about clear delineation of our terms of reference and debate.

    What political policies do you think would ensue from such debate, Lizzie? Honest question, I am curious to hear what you think.

  59. Snoopy

    It’s perfectly acceptable to note that Ethiopians and Kenyans have a special ability to run marathons and that athletes of West African descent have special abilities in sprinting but that’s pretty much the limit.

  60. zyconoclast

    Is there any parliamentarian in the country more stupid than Fiona Patten?

    Yes

    Yes

    Yes

  61. Snoopy

    European dominance in swimming events is a consequence of white privilege.

  62. OneWorldGovernment

    What ever country Australia gets refugees from then we should start strip bombing the farque out of their country of origin.

    Blow the farque out of every mosque on a Friday.

    And then move in and colonize the farquing joint.

  63. Snoopy

    Thank you not for link two Zyco.

  64. Leo G

    What political policies do you think would ensue from such debate, Lizzie? Honest question, I am curious to hear what you think.

    Let’s ban discussion of Plato’s Republic. Eugenics was ancient Greek pseudoscience long before certain Germans proposed selective breeding of humans.

  65. JC

    Let’s ban discussion of Plato’s Republic. Eugenics was ancient Greek pseudoscience long before certain Germans proposed selective breeding of humans.

    I thought the Germans got it from the Americans – Stanford university to be precise.

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What political policies do you think would ensue from such debate, Lizzie? Honest question, I am curious to hear what you think.

    In the medical field, M0nty, there would be plenty. Sickle-cell anaemia comes to mind, for policies there can improve human welfare. Genetic counselling is also a big field for reproductive health.

    I have already said I don’t have time for macro claims about the ‘genetic’ capacity of large population groups when the matters canvassed are subject to a great deal of cultural and nutritional and other social influences, some of which will affect biological expression. The ten thousand variables problem, as well as the problem of what it is you think you are trying to prove, how value-laden is that?

    Think of aboriginal children growing up in outback slums, sniffing petrol, poorly nourished and subject to horrendous stressors such as sexual abuse. You can’t even begin to think of examining ‘genetic influences’ within such deprived populations; perhaps re things such as ‘innate’ capacities to ‘image’ read (a possible hypothesis I guess but not one I’d pursue) compared to populations (such as Chinese) with ideographic selective pressures etc.

  67. zyconoclast

    Implementation and goals
    The Barcelona Declaration
    defined three main objectives of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership
    based on the pattern of the Helsinki Declaration of 1975. The first objective is the creation of a
    common area of peace and stability through the reinforcement of political and security dialogues
    based on fundamental principles such as respect for human rights and democracy (the Political
    and Security Chapter).
    The second objective calls for the construction of a zone of shared
    prosperity through an economic and financial partnership that includes the gradual establishment
    of a free trade zone by 2010 (the Economic and Financial chapter). After enlargement, this zone
    would include some 40 states and 600-800 million consumers, making it one of the world’s most
    important trading entities. The economic and social consequences of the reform process will be
    accompanied by substantial EU financial support.
    The third objective envisions the development of human resources, the promotion of understanding and the rapprochement and exchange of
    peoples (the Social, Cultural and Human Chapter). The ultimate goal is to develop free and flourishing civil societies.

  68. Okay Lizzie, so you think it has medical applications but you can’t think of any political implications. So why would be discuss it on a political blog?

  69. zyconoclast

    Migration
    Given the importance of the issue of migration for EuroMediterranean relations, meetings will
    be encouraged in order to make proposals concerning migration flows and pressures. These
    meetings will take account of experience acquired, inter alia, under the MED-Migration
    programme, particularly as regards improving the living conditions of migrants legally
    established in the Union.

  70. OneWorldGovernment

    I can’t wait to see how things develop when we have no diesel fuel.

  71. Snoopy

    Censorship. The last refuge of the outwitted.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Okay Lizzie, so you think it has medical applications but you can’t think of any political implications. So why would be discuss it on a political blog?

    Don’t be completely specious, Monty. Firstly, medical applications are highly political. Follow the money.

    Secondly, if genetic variability is found that hinders some people (whether in population groups or as individuals) then measures to assist any deficits caused by them can be introduced, or measures to enhance any useful genetic traits can also be used.

    We do it already with ‘gifted and talented’ classes in schools, and in schools that recognize children with special learning difficulties that may be genetically based.

    Of course all of these things are also highly politicized and political and the ‘testing’ of children is often contentious.

  73. OneWorldGovernment

    And as a potential shareholder of the despicable foul AGL I say shut down all your coal fired power stations NOW.

    What you are saying is that AGL is losing money by having coal fired power stations in operation.

    I am going to sue you for not giving the best return.

  74. zyconoclast

    The Harriet Tubman $20 Bill Plan Has Been Put on the Back Burner

    Despite a 2016 announcement that the abolitionist would be the new face of the $20 bill, the Trump administration has significantly delayed the rollout of the new bills, ensuring that Andrew Jackson will be around at least six years longer than planned.

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Now, I am off to bed. Tomorrow morning at 9.30 youse can all think of me doing my Latin-American dance class, where I will be displaying my genetic talents at being as good at cha cha as the next Welsh person. 🙂

    And CL, this is NOT an invitation for you to put up your infamous Gillard rhumba clip.

  76. Snoopy

    Germany’s Largest Public TV News Broadcaster: Syria Chemical Attack “Most Likely Staged”

    Wait! What? It was the White Helmets? Please say it ain’t so.

  77. Leo G

    I thought the Germans got it from the Americans

    The Germans would have been familiar with the works of Charles Darwin’s cousin Sir Francis Galton who coined the term “eugenics”.
    Contemporary expert on the subject David Galton (no relation to Francis) refered to the historical origins of eugenics:-

    Plato’s Republic is a blueprint for the organisation of an ideal society and with regard to eugenics adopts the policy of ensuring “judicious matings”. Plato thought it vital to society that the correct arrangements should be made for such matings. He proposed that marriage for the guardian classes (guardians were the premier class of Athenian citizens, selected by their natural capacities and attainments to govern the state) be abolished and that provision be made for men and women of the same natural capacities to mate. He drew an analogy with the selective breeding of sporting dogs and horses in order to obtain the desired stock.

  78. zyconoclast

    From: Forward.com in 2012

    J3wish community strongly supportive of gun control plus J3wish lawmakers eager to enact new gun control laws may bring J3ws into a lead role as the nation debates federal measures to rein in mass murders at its malls and schools.

    The new openness to legislation and other measures following the slaughter of 26 elementary school children and school staff in Newtown, Conn. — plus the killer’s mother — is welcomed by most J3wish organizations, which have long supported gun control. But in recent years, with the prospects for progress on this front all but hopeless until the December murders at Sandy Hook Elementary School, those organizations have been largely passive on the issue.
    Now, activists are fighting to seize the moment and get gun control back on the front burner.

  79. Wing Commander Guy Gibson, VC, DSO & Bar, DFC & Bar was 26 when he died and 24 when he led the dambusters raid.

    Don’t know who it was, but somebody posted here about how Wing Commander Gibson was touring the United States, when there was a big campaign welcoming home the first USAAF crew to complete thirty missions. Gibson was asked how many he had done, IIRC, his answer was over eighty…

    That was me. Here is the relevant paragraph from his Wikipedia page:

    On 4 October he began the United States leg of his tour in Washington, D.C.. He attended a major Press Conference at the offices of the British Information Service in New York on 7 October.
    This was “at a time when the first American airmen were coming home ‘tour expired’ after 25 operations. During questions one young lady asked, ‘Wing Commander Gibson, how many operations have you been on over Germany?’ He replied, ‘One hundred and seventy-four.’ There was a stunned silence”.

  80. zyconoclast

    Broward Sheriff Scott Israel To Face No-Confidence Vote

    According to a statement from Jeff Bell, the president of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association, “Today, Friday April 20th, 2018, the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association announced it has scheduled a No-Confidence vote on Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel. Union President and Broward Sheriff Deputy Jeff Bell said the move follows many instances of suspected malfeasance, misfeasance, failure to maintain fiduciary responsibility by the Sheriff, failure to properly investigate possible criminal misconduct by members of his senior command staff and the lack of leadership that has crushed morale throughout the agency.”

  81. One of my party tricks, and one I try on all ..er.. heavily pigmented American staff I hire, it to google image search for: ‘N!iggers grave’
    You can almost photograph the shock on their face, the results aren’t what they expect.
    The first eleventy-eleven results are the gravestone of a Labrador, in the garden of a former RAF office building.

    If you try this yourself at home right now, there should even be a couple of photos of the dog himself (a scroll or two down). The Labrador breed has changed somewhat in the last 70-odd years.

  82. OneWorldGovernment

    I am so looking forward to the day when CO2 goes to 800ppm.

  83. Secondly, if genetic variability is found that hinders some people (whether in population groups or as individuals) then measures to assist any deficits caused by them can be introduced, or measures to enhance any useful genetic traits can also be used.

    You know what Lizzie? I am very happy for Western society not to set a single foot on that path ever again. You may think it leads to somewhere infused with sweetness and light, but so far in history it has always ended in bad places.

  84. C.L.

    Sometimes you’ve gotta love the French:

    Meaty names for vegetarian food are ruled off the menu in France.

    The French can say adieu to “le veggie burger” and au revoir to soy steaks after their parliament banned the use of meaty sounding names for vegetable-based substitutes because they mislead consumers.

    In what is seen as a victory for France’s powerful meat lobby, the new bill adopted on Thursday will make it illegal for vegetarian food producers to use “steak”, “merguez”, “bacon” or “sausage” – or any other meat-related expression – to describe food that is not partly or wholly composed of meat.

    Even vegetarian products promising to have a “bacon taste” will be out of bounds.

    Excellent law.

  85. C.L.

    I am very happy for Western society not to set a single foot on that path ever again. You may think it leads to somewhere infused with sweetness and light, but so far in history it has always ended in bad places.

    Like the Democratic Party.

  86. Proteinaceous correctness.

    On balance, I approve.

  87. Baldrick

    Newspoll Lib 49 Lab 51.

    31 failed Newspolls. Trumble is now officially worse than the AbbottBeast.

  88. C.L.

    That French bill will hammer perpetrators of meat fraud with a $500,000 fine.
    Great stuff.

  89. calli

    Seven hour layover in DXB, fortunately in the lounge. CNN on the tele. I haven’t watched CNN for thirty years. It’s wall to wall Trump.

    These people are certifiable.

  90. OneWorldGovernment

    calli
    #2693095, posted on April 23, 2018 at 12:27 am

    Seven hour layover in DXB, fortunately in the lounge. CNN on the tele. I haven’t watched CNN for thirty years. It’s wall to wall Trump.

    These people are certifiable.

    So is monty.

  91. Mitch M.

    Secondly, if genetic variability is found that hinders some people (whether in population groups or as individuals) then measures to assist any deficits caused by them can be introduced, or measures to enhance any useful genetic traits can also be used.

    We already do that Lizzie. APOE alleles, African Americans are often prescribed a blood pressure drug specifically for their genotype, some Asians have a p450 enzyme that does not work that well and so can easily overdose on antipsychotics. We are now identifying more allele variations for which we can design interventions. That is the future of medicine, it is called personalised medicine. Scientists in Britain have designed a test that inform people of their best dietary choices. That is the future, in fact a lot of dietary advice doesn’t work for people because of their genetic heritage. If people want to stop exploring the potential of modern genetics for fear of eugenics they are preventing the next stage of medicine.

  92. JC

    Finally, a bed for economy passengers.

    If you want more room to nap during your flight, you may have to join your suitcase.

    Plane manufacturer Airbus, along with cabin makers Zodiac Aerospace, is developing full-size, lay-flat beds for economy flyers, Wired reports.

    Here’s the catch: The luxurious beds will be located in the cargo hold of the plane. And you’ll probably still have to pay to sleep there.

    The beds, which Airbus calls “passenger modules,” will be shaped like cargo containers. The windowless nooks will stack two high, bunk bed style.

    Passengers would still have to stay in their seats during takeoff and landing for safety reasons, the company said. But they envision that the nap compartments would be available in shifts during long flights, and that flight attendants would change the bedding between naps.

    Airbus says it could offer the pods in new planes by next year.

    You will have to pay for it too!

  93. JC, no one will sleep – they’ll be too busy joining the mile high club.
    And who’d want to be the poor bugger changing the sheets?

  94. Tom

    Today’s Johannes Leak goes with some inane gossip in the Paywallian’s Media Diary about the News Corp Australia boss Michael Miller dressing down journolisters for bad language on Twitter.

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    I like Branco best.
    Fun how both Earth Day yesterday and Earth Hour in March sank without trace this year.
    That’s how it all ends: with a whimper not a bang.

  96. Motelier

    All of Tom’s ‘toons are on point today.

    Nothing better than the first cup of coffee (mmmmmmm) and opening them up in a new tab.

    Thank you Tom.

  97. Motelier

    And safe travels calli. I love the tales of travellers abroad.

  98. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    You know what Lizzie? I am very happy for Western society not to set a single foot on that path ever again. You may think it leads to somewhere infused with sweetness and light, but so far in history it has always ended in bad places.

    this is leftoid logic, soon as you mention difference between races, phenotypes, haplotypes, immediately they start to think in terms of genocide and eugenics. Better to ignore reality and pretend everyone is equal lest national socialism.

    we already practice eugenics you pink pussy hatted dumbass. remember those tests your wife was given during pregnancy for downs and others, if they come up positive they recommend termination. that’s eugenics mate, that path we should never set foot on again is already being well worn.

  99. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A democratically desperate EUrope is making mobility agreement with anyone and everyone they can.

  100. feelthebern

    Hope everyone had a happy earth day yesterday.

  101. LBLoveday

    “I have to laugh whenever I hear shit like Julia Gillard was “young and naive” at 36 or when Bolta (semi) forgives Yassmin Magied for being “young” at 27.”

    Even worse is when Bolta calls YAM “young and attractive”. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to my eyes she is seriously unattractive.

  102. Top Ender

    ‘Long live death symbols’

    When Justin Huggett learned of incoming defence chief Angus Campbell’s ban on death-style icons, he thought it was a hoax.

    By RORY CALLINAN
    April 23rd

    Afghanistan veteran Justin Huggett at his Townsville home with his medals and a mortar platoon flag bearing the motto ‘Dealers in Death’. Picture: Cameron Laird

    When Justin Huggett learned of incoming defence chief Angus Campbell’s ban on death-style iconography in the army, he thought it was such a farcical idea that it must have been a hoax.

    “The decision you make, sir — that denigrates the morale of the enlisted — flows on and denigrates combat power,’’ Mr Huggett subsequently wrote in an open letter on Facebook to Lieutenant General Campbell.

    “The fact you yourself are an infantry soldier, my head spins with confusion. But now I am just left wondering as to the levels of stupidity, that this order can be interpreted or enforced.”

    General Campbell last week issued a minute to commanders banning symbols such as the Spartans and the grim reaper, skull and crossbones, and the Phantom or Punisher symbols, saying they were at odds with “army values and the ethical force we seek to build and sustain”.

    The directive has been incorporated into the army dress code and is also thought to apply to displays by sections or units.

    Having spent 14 years in the military, including a stint in Afghanistan where he earned the Medal of Gallantry for leading a counter-attack on a group of Taliban militants that had ambushed an Afghan army patrol, former sergeant Mr Huggett knows the value that such symbols can hold for Australian soldiers.

    “There’s a lot of history with this. There’s the spirit and pride. I’ve had Vietnam veterans tell me about the emblems from Vietnam. This is a tradition that has been around for years. They are going to be lost to history,’’ Mr Huggett told The Australian yesterday.

    Mr Huggett has highlighted some uncomfortable contradictions that the military’s top brass will be forced to confront as more and more soldiers take to social media to express their opposition to the ban. Photos were last night being circulated of posthumous Victoria Cross winner Cameron Baird, a commando who was killed in Afghanistan in 2013, going into battle in that country wearing face paint in a pattern associated with one of the now-banned death-style images known as the Punisher.

    Mr Huggett said the Baird face-paint issue showed that the decision to implement the ban had not been properly thought through.

    “How far do you go to enforce the ban on certain designs? It just shows the stupidity of it,’’ he said.

    Mr Huggett went on to detail the numerous symbols used by various army groups, including his own former unit which appropriated the “beloved Mortar Platoon” that used the grim reaper as an emblem with the words “dealers in death”. And he noted other Australian units “proudly” displayed “the Immortals, the Rebels, the Body Snatchers, the Dirty Dozen and the Morticians”.

    “Is Campbell going to ban every one of them,” he asked.

    He also questioned whether there would be a ban on the infantry combat badge that General Campbell himself wore, “a badge based around the bayonet, the most feared and gruesome up-close-and-personal weapon on the battlefield”.

    He said any respect General Campbell hoped to garner during his tenure as Chief of Defence “is gone with this terrible idea”.

    And in a further indication of the difficulty in policing the ban, General Campbell’s own Twitter account on April 15 retweeted a congratulatory message to Duntroon cadets who had won a silver patch for navigation by night or day at a West Point competition in the US

    The tweet was accompanied by an image of the US patch, which is of a Spartans helmet pierced with a sword, under the heading “Sandhurst”.

    General Campbell’s minute had specifically mentioned that Spartan imagery was considered militaristic. A Defence spokesman said death symbology demonstrated a general disregard for the army’s profession.

    Link with comments open

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    We already do that Lizzie

    Thanks, Mitch, I had read about some of those medical usages but couldn’t remember the detail which you have so helpfully provided. Can’t bother to check things up for late nite squabbling. I understand M0nty’s caution, but I think he is not being particularly realistic about the contemporary field of genetic studies. He is overstating his case merely for effect, which falls flat.

    Ah well. We know he’s like that, but he is still one of our better trolls.

    Calli should be up and away from Dubai now.
    Good, it’s awful being stuck in an airport, even in the club lounge.
    I like the ones where you can have a shower and even a massage.
    Those shared economy ‘capsule’ things JC mentions sound horrible, like coffins, but I suppose they might work if you just wanted to lie flat for a while. Better to break your journey for that though and go to a hotel.

  104. feelthebern

    Stanford study into gun violence turns up a surprise or 10.

    There are regulations—federally and at the state level—that limit the kind of data collected on gun violence and restrict funding for this type of research. That makes it difficult for researchers looking into these issues, and it’s left gaps in the kind of information we’ve been able to provide.

    https://ed.stanford.edu/news/stanford-gse-holds-teach-research-gun-violence-schools

    So what regulations in California would stop this kind of data collection?

  105. Boambee John

    m0nty at 2135

    The best traditions of the West came out in World War II, where these specific ideas were consigned to the dustbin of history by our forefathers. Eugenicism is not a frippery that is going to come back into fashion like camel hair jackets or the Charleston. It is an unspeakably evil ethos, borne of bigotry and hatred, which has led in the past to millions of deaths.

    Just catching up on last night.

    I’m sure that others will have commented on this, but even by m0nty’s debased standards, it is monumentally stupid.

    Eugenics was not “consigned to the dustbin of history” after WWII. It continues to be practiced today. The reason that there is such an imbalance of the sexes in places like India and China, where boys are valued culturally more than girls, is eugenics. The reason that fewer children are born with gross physical deformities or with genetic faults like Downs Syndrome in nations where in utero testing is widely available is eugenics.

    The vehicle for modern eugenics is abortion. It is no coincidence that the so-called “progressive” left, who were great proponents of eugenics in the first half of the 20th C, are now great proponents of abortion, one of the touchstones of modern left fascism. With their usual taste for euphemisms, eugenics has been replaced by “woman’s right to choose”. But millions still die in modern eugenics programs implemented in abortion clinics around the world.

    You should have stuck with arguing with Dr BG’s actual proposition m0nty, you might not have stood on another Bunnings full of rakes.

  106. Spider

    Gee wiz. Is Barnaby Joyce tin eared or just plain stupid coming out with his we should be able to employ our family as staff statement (even after all the insinuations that had been thrown around about his partner)

    He probably has a sound argument for why it might be desirable (for pollies) but surely he must know that this sort of announcement just riles the public.

  107. Boambee John

    m0nty at 2243

    I choose to believe you are merely ignorant, Beau, but you should read up on your history.

    So should you. Eugenics was a program of the so-called “progressive” left.

  108. Spider

    Seems like the ABC will not be satisfied until every member of the government personally apologises to them and Bill Shorten for not having a RC earlier.

  109. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2693048, posted on April 22, 2018 at 11:01 pm
    Everyone Monty disagrees with is a Nazi.

    No, just the ones who regurgitate Nazi pseudoscience.

    Progressive left pseudoscience.

  110. C.L.

    The Australian:

    PM: I was wrong on banks

    You were wrong on everything.

  111. John Constantine

    The full intention is to have the Australian military run as cyclone and tidal wave relief in the Pacific.

    The shoot to kill roles to be transferred to paramilitary Death squads, operating against fixated individuals inside Australia who refuse to live and breathe progressive narrative.

  112. [email protected] is absolutely right. The whole suite of prenatal testing is done largely so that parents in consultation with the medical profession can ‘weed out’ children in utero with this or that problematic genetic disposition.

  113. John Constantine

    Once gender selection is a consumer service for those planning a family, how will the market price gender?.

    Is it preferable to avoid girl children being born to those that would only dump them on the streets in disappointment, or sell them as rapethings into childbride harems?.

  114. Boambee John

    Mitch M at 1240

    We already do that Lizzie. APOE alleles, African Americans are often prescribed a blood pressure drug specifically for their genotype, some Asians have a p450 enzyme that does not work that well and so can easily overdose on antipsychotics. We are now identifying more allele variations for which we can design interventions. That is the future of medicine, it is called personalised medicine. Scientists in Britain have designed a test that inform people of their best dietary choices. That is the future, in fact a lot of dietary advice doesn’t work for people because of their genetic heritage. If people want to stop exploring the potential of modern genetics for fear of eugenics they are preventing the next stage of medicine.

    m0nty wants this banned.

    m0nty is an ignoramus.

  115. Ragu

    The shoot to kill roles to be transferred to paramilitary Death squads

    Then prosecuted as Fixated individuals.

  116. John Constantine

    Once certain demographics have a big surplus of tens of millions of young males over females, will this increase the market value of females, or utterly destroy the value of throwaway males?.

    Totalitarian monitoring of worthless, hopeless, no future, throwaway military age males will be required.

    Or they could be marched West to become someone else’s problem.

    Open the borders to mass millions of throwaway military age males, if they wipe our arsed that might be our only strength.

    Comrades.

  117. Ragu

    or sell them as rapethings into childbride harems?.

    Love is love, Comrade. Transactions are our strength.

  118. Chris

    Eugenics?
    I have not heard any more about this, but a long-term care nurse once told me that there are a great many people disabled in various ways exercising their basic human right to have a family. As a result of this combined with our access to extreme medical techniques, there are a rapidly rising number of people born and surviving to adulthood who need extremely high levels of medical and other care.
    Obviously this includes both ‘cute’ people who we have no trouble seeing as our neighbours and equals, and some extremely handicapped and un-cute people, who the eugenicists of ancient Greece would have not retained or natural attrition would have given early death in past times. Fortunately our rich society can afford unlimited care for people whose life expectancies are rising from days to decades and whose .
    They have a lot of reason to fear the Leftists like Peter Singer and their ethics-based, rational approach to human difference.
    The ease of access to abortion and in-utero and DNA-based diagnostics for some conditions have created an increasingly active eugenics program, it just looks very different to forced sterilisation of the handicapped.

  119. Shaw and Wells just loved eugenics. The former even promoted the extensive use of ‘the lethal chamber’ in order to free up the time devoted, inordinate according to Shaw, to care of the sick and disabled by the able-bodied.

  120. Andreas

    Imagine for a moment if one of the banks had the shredders on overdrive and sent a dump truck full of documents to the tip on the day of receiving notice of the royal commission. How outraged would the ABC be and how many years jail would the bank’s executives be facing.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’d be so easy to nail the ABC to the floor over the RC.

    All Turnbull has to say is that the ALP controlled state of Victoria hasn’t acted on any of the 30 prosecutions of unionists recommended by the Heydon RC.

    Then he says unlike the ALP we are cleaning up the bad behaviour of the banks. Why isn’t Shorten cleaning up the bad behaviour of the CFMEU? Why isn’t the ABC reporting any of it? Then keep on pounding on that line over and over.

    As I said it’d be so easy to stick the boot in to these hypocrites, it’d even be excellent politics leading up to the election. Someone in the Photios group needs to give Turnbull a spine transplant.

  122. Rae

    PM: I was wrong on banks

    Miranda: “Naughty Malcolm, he’s so nice. But, Bill Shorten very bad.”

    Miranda: ” He is a lovely man, I forgive his minor indiscretions. But Bill Shorten is the AntiChrist.”

    [Why were she and Karl sitting on bar stools?]

  123. Chris

    Someone in the Photios group needs to give Turnbull a spine transplant

    Occasionally on the Oz comments I float an alternative to me putting Liberal last or garotting the Turnfailure; the Liberals could pull their team together and work for Australia, reduce Government waste, set priorities based on real needs not virtue signalling, and pursue basic values like the freedom of speech, association and religion.
    Imagine that.

  124. Rossini

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2693153, posted on April 23, 2018 at 8:32 am
    Stupid.Forking.Liberals

  125. Leigh Lowe

    FMD.
    Segment on Today show about a skirmish between two toddlers in a park over a toy, complete with child psych giving step-by-step advice on what to do.
    We are fucked.

  126. Baldrick

    Seems like the ABC will not be satisfied until every member of the government personally apologises to them and Bill Shorten for not having a RC earlier.

    Still waiting for TheirABC to ask every Labor and Greens political to personally apologise for not having a Trade Union RC earlier.

  127. Tom

    Someone in the Photios group needs to give Turnbull a spine transplant

    His old one is already part of the Natural History Museum’s invertebrates exhibit.

  128. Percy Porcelain

    Boambee John
    #2693135, posted on April 23, 2018 at 7:40 am

    LOL. This blog’s second most appalling ignoramus cops yet another pasting. Great work, Boambee.

  129. Tel

    The shoot to kill roles to be transferred to paramilitary Death squads, operating against fixated individuals inside Australia who refuse to live and breathe progressive narrative.

    Will they be privately managed Death squads with a competitive tendering process? Asking for a friend you understand.

  130. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The vehicle for modern eugenics is abortion. It is no coincidence that the so-called “progressive” left, who were great proponents of eugenics in the first half of the 20th C, are now great proponents of abortion, one of the touchstones of modern left fascism. With their usual taste for euphemisms, eugenics has been replaced by “woman’s right to choose”. But millions still die in modern eugenics programs implemented in abortion clinics around the world.

    The same people who howl that it is a woman’s body and she has a right to choose to kill the unborn, will howl that selection of foetal characteristics via genetic manipulation is vile and immoral.

  131. Tel

    As I said it’d be so easy to stick the boot in to these hypocrites, it’d even be excellent politics leading up to the election. Someone in the Photios group needs to give Turnbull a spine transplant.

    Well Abbott does get his face in front of a microphone now and then, he could be doing this if he wanted to chip in and be a team player.

  132. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    When Justin Huggett learned of incoming defence chief Angus Campbell’s ban on death-style icons, he thought it was a hoax.

    who put this squinty eyed Angus dickhead in charge?

    Mr Turnbull named Lieutenant-General Angus Campbell, known widely as the inscrutable face of the secretive asylum seeker turn-back operation in 2013, the new Chief of the Defence Force from July.

    oh

  133. Arky

    I am calling you from the heart of dullardness here in Victoria, watching numpties hold up traffic.
    Wire rope barriers are stupid.
    Google “wire rope barrier” page after page telling how other countries tried them and then ripped them out. Page after page of people killed by them.
    Is there any idea retarded enough that it won’t be picked up by one of our many levels of stupid government?
    We aren’t a country anymore, we are an unending series of Simpson monorail sketches.
    ..
    Discussion here earlier about the enlightenment.
    You know what caused the enlightenment? Centuries of burning witches at the stake.
    Those witches were the type of interferring old women we see rampant today, such as the current head of army, or the various human rights creatures.
    You know who they were.
    They were the types who would stick their big sticky noses in everyones bussiness. Gossiping harpies.
    “Ohhh, Why can’t you wear these glowing pantaloons so you don’t get run down by a horse in the dark?.
    “Ohhh, that terrible young man next door, always playing the flute till all hours”.
    “Ohhh, those infernal machines, there ought to be a law”.
    Finally we had enough of them and systematically BBQed the slags.
    What ensued was centuries of progress.
    Shakespeare wrote a play about it.
    Good and decent men were finally able to do the work required to bring the modern world into existence.
    Playing with explosives, high voltages and steam pressure vessels.
    Some of them died. Mercifully without being nagged.
    Progress was made.
    Men invented gelignite, steam engines and the pulsing thrum of the mighty V8.
    Every inch of progress was paved with the charred bones of horrible witches.
    Everything was as it should be. But then…
    The harpies returned with a vengence. This time, instead of burning them we gave them the vote.
    Chaos proceeded at pace. They voted for the worst type of con artists and weasels.
    Everthing good was dismantled. Until we reached the point where retards are paid to festoon major highways with wire rope barriers like some Lilliputian concentration camp.
    But not before man managed one last gasp of progress, landing a succession of men on the moon using the massive Saturn V rockets.

  134. John Constantine

    https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/new-wheels-to-bolster-police-public-order-unit/

    PORT

    Public Order Response Team.

    Order in the time of Orwell.

    Our paramilitary response squads are our new strength.

  135. struth

    Help

    Stuck in Glendambo.

    Bloody flies just set it off.
    When you think of it I reckon we should give it to the mussies.
    Let them and the blackfellas fight it out.

  136. Nick

    How come drivers on Australian highways never stick to the frickin left ? I can do 130 kmh in the ‘slow’ lane, because idiots are doing 100 in the middle lane?

  137. Baldrick

    Our paramilitary response squads are our new strength.

    Wow! Who knew that solving the African gang violence in Victoria was as simple as buying some new cars for the Riot Squad?

  138. DrBeauGan

    Arguing with m0nty is playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon doesn’t understand that there are rules, it knocks over the pieces, craps over the board and struts around as if it’s won. I really should have had more sense than to try.

  139. Tel

    Our paramilitary response squads are our new strength.

    Just so long as police are not allowed to wear death’s head masks I think it will be OK.

    Mind you, it is pretty difficult to tell the difference between modern police and soldiers, they seem to swap jobs from time to time.

  140. thefrolickingmole

    Arky

    Then the reintroduction of the scolds bridle as a moderate, tempering measure should be considered eh?

    By writing that you gave poor van Badhams ovaries a twinge.

    And yes, wire barriers are made to snip arms, legs & whole torsos off people. They are a dumb, dumb idea.

  141. Nick

    Bollards filled with pigs’ blood would be better

  142. Arky

    Then the reintroduction of the scolds bridle as a moderate, tempering measure should be considered eh?

    ..
    Burn them.
    Burn the witches.

  143. H B Bear

    New thread.

    Piss off.

  144. Rae

    this squinty eyed Angus

    SAS Commander. Don’t know if he ever actually killed anyone, but has in fact done a bit more that be the “inscrutable face of the secretive asylum seeker turn-back operation”. If he ever decides to give you a personal demonstration of eugenics, no doubt you’ll get to look directly into that inscrutable face and those squinty eyes. Until your own eyes cloud over as the piano wire tightens.

  145. thefrolickingmole

    The increasing ratchet of surrendered liberties depends on a steady supply of hate targets as the wedge to introduce the next “public safety”measure, before it becomes compulsory for everyone
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/apr/23/tagging-domestic-abusers-is-not-enough-say-campaigners

    the Victims’ Rights Campaign, along with Plaid Cymru, have suggested fitting perpetrators with satellite trackers, which would alert their victims if they were nearby, as an alternative to tagging. If risk was deemed to be high, the police could also be automatically alerted.

    Harry Fletcher, director of the Victims’ Rights Campaign, said: “Our proposals are about improving safety and public confidence, and allowing victims of domestic abuse and stalking to live their lives without fear.

    “Manufacturers have told us that they could develop these simple devices and it is important that the government takes these ideas on board and gives them serious consideration.”

    Safety had to take priority over cost, he added. “Indeed, if safety was paramount it would reduce health costs.”

  146. Tel

    Arguing with m0nty is playing chess with a pigeon.

    His purpose is to disrupt, not to discuss, and based on his chosen operational procedure he has sufficient intelligence. He can match basic keywords, pull out little bits here and there enough to mimic and distort the conversation going on around him and generally annoy and infuriate people.

    There is some fascination I suppose with a simple mechanism that achieves what would outwardly appear to require a much more complex system.

  147. DrBeauGan

    I like Arky’s witch theory. It explains so much. It’s practical eugenics in action.

    It’s not too late to abort m0nty. It would be a kindness, really. I’m sure professor Singer would agree that m0nty hasn’t really attained consciousness yet, and is unlikely to on his own. It would be a useful start on Arky Reimplementing Strategy for Witches.

  148. feelthebern

    Fun fact.
    In 2015 the Senate voted on a motion to have a RC into the banks.
    Labor, LNP both voted against it, apart from Wacka Williams who crossed the floor.

    Did Kelly O’Dwyer mention that ? Nope.
    Did Turd mention that ? Nope.
    Stupid fucking liberals.

  149. Bruce of Newcastle

    the Victims’ Rights Campaign, along with Plaid Cymru, have suggested fitting perpetrators with satellite trackers

    Why bother?

    FCC Filings Reveal Facebook’s Mysterious Drone Test Above The Skies Of New Mexico

    Just ask Zuckerberg where his phone is.

  150. Chris

    Arguing with m0ntymost lefties is playing chess with a pigeon.

    When you get a lefty, or anyone, that is intellectually honest you get someone worth talking to.

  151. stackja

    Once criminals were sentenced to long terms in prison. No need for tracking.

  152. Shelley

    What on earth is Barnaby Joyce on these days? He’s spouting that MP’s partners should be employed in their office to work with them in a ‘family’ business as they (the partners) know where they should be, what appointments they should be at etc. This is nonsensical. Lets make it that the Parliament and their offices become even more elitist and closed to anyone else that may be suitable to fulfill these roles.

  153. Shelley

    Is the subtext of what Barnaby is spouting that if his wife had gotten to work with him, he wouldn’t have strayed with his adviser.

  154. Tel;

    Will they be privately managed Death squads with a competitive tendering process? Asking for a friend you understand.

    They will be ad hoc death groups. Payment will be made on the production of cleaned skulls, which will then be crushed for fertiliser for the Victory Avenue Gardens.
    Except for a random few which will be kept aside and re presented for the CFMEU Christmas Party.

  155. notafan

    Amazing

    Monty the I would leave it up to the mother to make a decision about aborting a baby with down’s syndrome monster tut tutting about eugenics.

    What a dumbass fraud.

  156. rickw

    PORT

    Public Order Response Team.

    Order in the time of Orwell.

    Our paramilitary response squads are our new strength.

    They must be planning on doing something really bloody obnoxious.

    PORT will never be deployed against muslims or lefties, so what’s it for?

  157. johanna

    Been reading back, especially about Asian women as discussed here.

    Oh, my. What a bunch of losers we have here.

    Some say that they are more compliant, and therefore better. Others say that they are testicle-depriving monsters. Their ability to cook is apparently very important.

    As kittehs know, this puffery and penis-enlarging is just what inadequate men do. Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

  158. johanna

    johanna
    #2694022, posted on April 24, 2018 at 7:12 am

    Been reading back, especially about Asian women as discussed here.

    Oh, my. What a bunch of losers we have here.

    Some say that they are more compliant, and therefore better. Others say that they are testicle-depriving monsters. Their ability to cook is apparently very important.

    As kittehs know, this puffery and penis-enlarging is just what inadequate men do. Including the ones who buy wives because they can’t get anyone local to put up with them, Sound and fury, signifying nothing.

    As for generalising “Asian” women – just when we thought that the limits of ignorance had been reached …

    Not the best day and night in the history of the Cat. Pretty ugly, in fact.

    Then we got the abortion debate times eleventy, as though there is something new to discover there.

    Here’s the thing. If you want to declare millions of women all over the world as murderers who should go to jail, say so. Name them.

    Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

    That Jesuitical line is one you are careful not to cross, hypocrites.

  159. Helen

    Shelly, I think this has come from his partner. As we all know, marrying a mistress creates a vacancy. Vicki would want to be right there to block any unwanted (by her advances) on her bull.

  160. Helen

    Ahha, a day and a night of Cats fantasising about asian chicks hey? Look, I like a bit of Thai or Vietnamese, but only on a plate and preferbaly in a restaurant so no washing up.

    In Katherine – a nearby town, as soon as a male is widowed, all the Philipinos start introducing their cousins, aunties etc, so an old guy can get himself a hot 35 yo who will have the obligatory baby and a life time of higher status than she had back home.

    Very interesting watching some of them trip around in the gogo outfit that might look ok on the catwalk of the local dance hall back home, but a tad overdone on the gravel under the NT sun. They think they look lovely so who cares?

    Not all like this of course and I am sure some are properly in love and these old guys get a real new lease of life with this lovely young thing hanging off their arm and hanging out their washing. The old blokes appear well looked after – so good luck to em.

  161. Bruce of Newcastle

    What on earth is Barnaby Joyce on these days? He’s spouting that MP’s partners should be employed in their office to work with them in a ‘family’ business

    The CWA is in town. 😀

    ARMIDALE TO HOST ANNUAL CWA CONFERENCE

    Around 800 delegates from the Country Women’s Association will descend on the New England at the end of the month, for the society’s annual conference. … The conference starts in Armidale on April 30.

    He’ll have to be nice to ladies for a couple weeks. On the other hand there will be scones!

  162. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Hmmm, no sign of Arma…

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