Wednesday Forum: April 25, 2018

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  1. Rae

    …by pushing them out the back door of an Antonov at 45,000 feet.

    That was Pinochet, people and helicopters, wasn’t it? And not as high as 45,000 feet.

  2. Snoopy

    Would a private health fund offer indefinite life support for members at a price? How many people would be prepared to pay the premium for that option?

  3. BoN;
    Pretty sure that’s the site I stole it from.

  4. A. Dolt makes a good point; bollards are acknowledgement of the enemy within.

    Please graffiti artists, “for the enemy within” etched on each and every bollard.

  5. JC

    Snoopy

    In Australia, coverage for regular Medicare hospitalisation covers for about 8 weeks after that you’re on your own or get carted away to rehab or the death bed hospital. This applies for both private and riff raff hospitals.

    The point isn’t if private insurance would pay, but the fact that the NHS fascists in the UK won’t allow the kid to be removed. I can’t believe you aren’t getting this.

  6. Some History

    If you fall, I’ll be there.

    – the Floor –

  7. Snoopy

    JC, I can’t believe that your comprehension is so poor. Well actually yes I can.

  8. Some History, I thought that quote came from Cliff Bottom.

  9. Roger.

    The real Islamic State:

    Erdoğan’s Turkey is not so much a bridge between West and East as a siege tower or even—as in the case of the Turkish Armed Forces and its incursion into Syria—the actual siege weapon itself. The purpose of Erdoğan’s Justice and Development Party is to serve as a vanguard for bringing to Turkey, the region, the Greater Middle East and the entire world (if God wills it) a whole new era of Islamic triumphalism.

    RTWT

  10. Entropy

    Snoop, the parents aren’t asking the NHS to fund the trip to Italy AFAIK.

  11. Herodotus

    In “Men In Black” the alien could take over a human body and make it (rather clumsily) stagger around and impersonate a human.
    Looks like they’ve taken control of Candy.

  12. Snoopy

    Entropy, I didn’t suggest they were.

  13. Entropy

    Well then the discussion on how long the NHS will keep feed young Alfie is t pertinent. The issue is the refusal to bow to the parents’ wishes and release him so the parents can do what they are prepared to do. The State is not prepared to wash its hands, so to speak.

  14. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Earth, Wind & Fire [on the David Foster tour]

    Memorable performance (video length ~ 7 mins)
    Top, super-tight band. Great brass section.

    [put the volume up]

  15. Percy Porcelain

    Christian Porter is a monumental dullard who is going to lose his seat at the next election in a landslide and I have zero faith in the stupid.forking.liberals appointing anyone to replace Dim Southpossuminsane who isn’t an offensive self aggrandizing collectivist imbecile.

    I’m not planning on being disappointed, peoples.

  16. Entropy

    The State is enforcing a life and death decision into a family unit. This should not be the role of the state.

  17. Myrddin Seren

    Anecdote o’clock

    Waiting in the medical centre treatment room for a Doc to give the missus and I the once over before Nurse Ratchet jabs us up with the flu vax.

    Nurse Ratchet makes conversation.

    ‘How’s your day ?’ – Okay – waiting to be jabbed…

    ‘Quiet here – I like it to be busy.’ Surprised that it is quiet ? ( it’s a centrally located medical centre ).

    ‘Oh yes – too quiet. It’s Donald Trump’s fault !’

    I am not starting a brawl with the woman about to plunge a needle in to me. Deathly silence from the missus too. The conversation shifted to travel.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing and Australians, who love following every fad, are absolutely lapping up the media TDS.

  18. Tel

    Please graffiti artists, “for the enemy within” etched on each and every bollard.

    The older quote is a bit longer but says much the same thing.

    Fortresses, therefore, are useful or not according to circumstances; if they do you good in one way they injure you in another. And this question can be reasoned thus: the prince who has more to fear from the people than from foreigners ought to build fortresses, but he who has more to fear from foreigners than from the people ought to leave them alone.

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/machiavelli/works/prince/ch20.htm

  19. Snoopy

    Snoopy
    #2695800, posted on April 26, 2018 at 10:07 am
    Of course that is a different issue to the prohibition of Alfie’s transfer to Italy.

  20. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A. Dolt makes a good point; bollards are acknowledgement of the enemy within.

    I have been saying for a very long time that mass expulsion is the only solution to islam. citizen or not.

  21. It’s Donald Trump’s fault !

    In Ostraya, it is good that someone shares Tony Abbott’s burden .

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    OPINION
    Yassmin Abdel-Magied’s autobiography answers her own question
    “I have always been a ‘tough cookie’,” Yassmin Abdel-Magied writes in her autobiography. Was that a joke?. Picture: Kym Smith

    The Australian
    12:27PM April 26, 2018

    The Mocker
    @Oz_Mocker

    “If I were to think about … injustice too hard I would wallow in pity and all-consuming anger,” wrote media personality Yassmin Abdel-Magied in her autobiography Yassmin’s Story: Who Do You Think I Am?. That was in 2016, and it would be another year before the then 24 year old’s controversial Anzac Day Facebook post ‘Lest We Forget: (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine)’ appeared.

    At that time, Abdel-Magied had been living a life of privilege. Born in Sudan, she, along with her family, left a third-world dictatorship and found refuge in Australia, thanks to the generosity of a Christian family. A bright student, she studied engineering and graduated with first-class honours. As an African Muslim migrant woman, she rated highly on the intersectionality scoreboard, and was feted as a success story. She hosted an ABC television show, and gave frequent interviews to the media. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade paid for her to travel throughout Africa to plug her book. Yassmania, you might say.

    Yet the warning signs of her not being mature enough for this elevation were obvious well before her controversial post. In February 2017, as a panellist on ABC’s QandA, she engaged in an unseemly shouting match with then senator Jacqui Lambie over the definition of sharia law. In 2016, she was the face of contrived anger and outrage at the 2016 Brisbane Writers’ Festival after walking out when American author Lionel Shriver rightfully dissed the commissars of so-called cultural appropriation in her keynote address.

    “The stench of privilege hung heavy in the air,” wrote Abdel-Magied. “‘Mama, I can’t sit here”,’ I said, the corners of my mouth dragging downwards. ‘I cannot legitimise this’. My mother’s eyes bore into me, urging me to remain calm … I shook my head, as if to shake off my lingering doubts. As I stood up, my heart began to race.” If you think the histrionics had peaked, just consider this assertion: “It’s the kind of attitude that lays the foundation for prejudice, for hate, for genocide.”

    “Humility,” she continued with much high dudgeon, “is not Shriver’s cloak of choice.” It isn’t exactly Magied’s either, but more on that later. Given her supposed abhorrence of cultural appropriation, she might ponder the irony of paraphrasing ‘Lest we forget’ on Anzac Day for self-aggrandisement. But that would require self-awareness

    From the Oz.

  23. Herodotus

    ” … during the period of Obama’s presidency, the trusted Erdoğan closed most independent television channels, newspapers, magazines, radio stations and publishing houses, jailed untold journalists, politicised the police force, beat up and maimed thousands of university students, curtailed parliamentary democracy, arrested his political opponents, limited the sale of alcohol to Turkey’s “pious youth”, ended the independence of the judiciary, boosted the power and influence of the state-funded Directorate of Religious Affairs (the Diyanet), persecuted heterodox Muslims and Christians, Islamised the education system, funded religious schools, encouraged a strict Islamic dress code for women, accrued a personal fortune of reputedly $200 million on a modest $100,000 salary and, with suitably Sultan-like entitlement, created for himself and his corrupt family a 1150-room palace that is thirty times larger than the White House. ”
    The methods of Erdogan work, while those of Orban – on a different tack – work too.
    Wishy-washy western democracies are for the most part unable to deal with the enemy within, and are in decline for the time being.

  24. Herodotus

    That’s from Roger’s link to Quadrant, above.

  25. Percy Porcelain

    The liberals are such clueless tin eared numpties I expect them to appoint someone like Julian Burnside QC AO, etc, to the AHRC sinecure.

    Total morons.

  26. Snoopy

    ‘Oh yes – too quiet. It’s Donald Trump’s fault !’

    Maybe she was being ironic? She’s possibly mightily amused when her comment is received with enthusiastic agreement.

  27. Roger.

    But that would require self-awareness

    Yass is speaking at the St. Gallen Symposium in Switzerland next week.

    The program bio describes her as “an internationally renowned speaker on the topic of unconscious bias.”

    Seriously.

  28. Percy Porcelain

    BTW, is there any chance we could crowdfund Graegooglery being shipped off to an NHS facility and (slowly) euthanased?

    For his own good, of course.

  29. Some History

    Some History, I thought that quote came from Cliff Bottom.

    Falling Off A Cliff by Eileen Dover 🙂

  30. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    BTW, is there any chance we could crowdfund Graegooglery being shipped off to an NHS facility and (slowly) euthanased?

    it’s not like anyone will miss him, except his redtube live cam girl

  31. Some History

    How To Serve Your Fellow Man by The Cannibals

  32. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2695893, posted on April 26, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    He has been accused of putting his hand up a young lady’s skirt, uninvited.

    Wouldn’t that be “sexual or indecent assault”?

    Again here is the Port Adelaide CEO:

    Of most importance to Sam, the AFLPA and Port Adelaide was the AFL’s finding that there was no evidence or suggestion of sexual or indecent assault, as has been speculated by some media outlets throughout the investigation.

    Curious.

    I am having a bit of a laugh at this one.
    Every time a player from another club as much as looks sideways, President Koch-head is screaming from the pulpit for heads to roll.
    When it is one of Koch-head’s own we get a yuuuuge “no laws broken, no charges laid, nothing to see, move on.”
    If nothing else this has provided other clubs with a magazine full of ammunition the next time Koch-head puts his head up.

  33. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “The stench of privilege hung heavy in the air,” wrote Abdel-Magied.

    The real stench of poverty, grime and squalor is the left’s universal preference.

  34. thefrolickingmole

    Roger.

    Well written little piece.
    Erdogan was the one who said:
    These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.
    &
    Erdogan once said that democracy for him is a bus ride. “Once I get to my stop, I’m getting off.”
    King Abdullah II of Jordan

    And I didnt know Boris had done this.
    There was a young fellow from Ankara
    Who was a terrific wankerer
    Till he sowed his wild oats
    With the help of a goat
    But he didn’t even stop to thankera.

    Boris Johnson wins The Spectator’s President Erdogan Offensive Poetry competition, 18 May 2016

  35. Percy Porcelain

    “The stench of privilege hung heavy in the air,”

    LOL. The type of pretentious, leaden prose worthy of FitzSimians at his finest.

  36. DrBeauGan

    The default position has hitherto been that the interests of the child are under the control of the parents, and the state intervenes only when the parents are clearly not acting in the best interest of the child. One reason for this is that the state has not had the ability to monitor the entire population.

    With children who are not the biological offspring of alleged parents becoming increasingly fashionable, and pretend parents who have children in order to appear normal, the reliance on the natural biological bond of parents loving their offspring is materially weakened, and with the arrogation of state power under leftism, we get little Alfie.

    Most people see this as appalling, but don’t see the logic by which it happens. So they vote for SSM and the NDIS and then complain about the inevitable consequences.

    True leadership would point out the connections to the people. Our politicians simply aren’t up to it.

  37. Some History

    “an internationally renowned speaker on the topic of unconscious bias.”

    An internationally renowned speaker while unconscious.

  38. Zyconoclast

    ‘I’m truly concerned’: AEMO chief warns on rooftop solar

    The rise of rooftop solar has helped drive down electricity costs for many Australians but the head of the energy market operator warns those still on the grid have been punished with higher prices.
    “I am truly concerned over the issue of an economic bypass,” Audrey Zibelman, the head of the Australian Energy Market Operator, said at a Centre for Independent Studies event this week.
    “We do not want to invite an economic bypass,” she said, “creating the haves and the have-nots.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/i-m-truly-concerned-aemo-chief-warns-on-rooftop-solar-20180424-p4zbg0.html

  39. stackja

    DrBeauGan
    #2695964, posted on April 26, 2018 at 1:14 pm Our politicians simply aren’t up to it.

    George Pell is being used as an example of what to expect if someone veers from the accepted narrative.

  40. areff

    We do not want to invite an economic bypass,” she said, “creating the haves and the have-nots.”

    Subsidies and payments on the way soon to renters, who can then put more unpredictable energy into the grid and, therefore, prompt even more subsidies and bailouts.

  41. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The rise of rooftop solar has helped drive down electricity costs for many Australians

    It has only reduced your power bill if you can’t operate a calculator.

  42. jupes

    Sorry, Tom. Meant Jupes.

    Huh? What have I done?

  43. ‘I’m truly concerned’: AEMO chief warns on rooftop solar

    Movement at the station.

    Let’s remove the subsidies and see how much rooftop solar remains.

    FMD

  44. Snoopy

    Fake news LOL

    Drew Cloud is everywhere. The self-described journalist who specializes in student-loan debt has been quoted in major news outlets, including The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, and CNBC, and is a fixture in the smaller, specialized blogosphere of student debt.

    He’s always got the new data, featuring irresistible twists:

    One in five students use extra money from their student loans to buy digital currencies.

    Nearly 8 percent of students would move to North Korea to free themselves of their debt.

    Twenty-seven percent would contract the Zika virus to live debt-free.

    All of those surveys came from Cloud’s website, The Student Loan Report.

    ………

    He became ubiquitous on that topic. But he’s a fiction, the invention of a student-loan refinancing company.

    Via Instapundit

  45. JC

    Snoopy

    If my comprehension is so poor then don’t be like the rest of your dim bulb pals and point out eggsactly what I got wrong.

    You’ve been bouncing around this for most of the morning and early afternoon – meandering around like a drunk.

    Ent. seems to have interpreted your comments like I have.
    It’s time to STFU and listen.

  46. Riddle me this. Why would one subsidize something that fscks up the grid?

  47. Mother Lode

    Equipment beeps while vigil keeps
    Beside the bed of Rae.
    The food in drips bypassing lips
    Now hold her death at bay.

    The few who grace this silent place
    Instinctive make no sound.
    They check their chart and then depart –
    And thus they mark their round.

    When Grigor came he felt no shame:
    “You useless fucking rag.
    I guess that I will have to buy
    Another sock to shag.”

    But times are tight, and admins’ plight:
    To make the hardest call.
    They run their stats, have candid chats –
    They have to weigh it all.

    They turn their thoughts to all the rorts,
    The guidelines they must heed:
    Like gender, race, Allah-embrace,
    And thus determine ‘need’.

    Now admin mull if they should cull
    This putrid little sock.
    Its crusty stains and mangled skeins –
    From Grigor’s mangy cock.

    They map her chart like witch’s art
    “I think that I must say,
    This sock is due to join the few
    To live beyond today.

    “She has no worth, not none on Earth –
    Which we must count a plus.
    We must declare this foul footware
    Deserving of our fuss.

    “I have not seen a sock unclean
    To levels so perverse.
    So cash we’ll blow so we can show
    That we embrace ‘Diverse’.

    The sullen nurse who wore the curse
    To prep her for her op,
    Was sick indeed and could not read
    And knew not when to stop.

    When germicide she thick applied
    Exactly as designed.
    Its virtue such that at first touch,
    That Rae at once…flatlined.

  48. Bruce of Newcastle

    The rise of rooftop solar has helped drive down electricity costs for many Australians

    Four Pinocchios.

    How Solar And Wind Are Causing Electricity Prices To Skyrocket (24 Apr)

    The following article was written by a leading environmental activist, who’s also running for governor of California, not some fossil-fuel advocate.

    Over the last year, the media have published story after story after story about the declining price of solar panels and wind turbines.

    People who read these stories are understandably left with the impression that the more solar and wind energy we produce, the lower electricity prices will become.

    And yet that’s not what’s happening. In fact, it’s the opposite.

    Between 2009 and 2017, the price of solar panels per watt declined by 75 percent while the price of wind turbines per watt declined by 50 percent.

    And yet — during the same period — the price of electricity in places that deployed significant quantities of renewables increased dramatically.

    At best solar panels are providing a government subsidy against which the retail cost of electricity is offset. All off grid systems are far more expensive in their effective cost of electricity than grid electricity.

    This article supports the similar data that Alan Moran and Judith Sloan have published. The extra twist is that it is from a Green.

  49. Makka

    Why would one subsidize something that fscks up the grid?

    Donations?

  50. thefrolickingmole

    Had a couple of days catching the “headlines” of their ABC’s country hour.

    “carbon farming”
    Live export MUST change
    Alanah McTiernan (ag minister WA) interviewed saying farmers must prepare for change now, despite no decisions being made for another fortnight (inquiry).
    Stated objective, “stop all shipping in summer”

    Netflix is $12 a month now, a Lib pollie with 1/2 a brain would do a bulk deal and give the people a choice between that and the ABC.
    Then the 3 people left watching the ABC could fund it instead.

  51. Percy Porcelain

    Why would one subsidize something that fscks up the grid?

    When an “idea” is advocated by a group of greenfilth numpties with the collective IQ of an amoeba, this is what you end up with.

  52. Donations?

    AKA corruption.
    AKA politicians with unexplained wealth.
    AKA stupidity.

  53. Percy Porcelain

    Load, that little poem is worthy of wider recognition. Gold.

  54. Snoopy

    If my comprehension is so poor then don’t be like the rest of your dim bulb pals and point out eggsactly what I got wrong.

    Clearly you can’t recognise a simple rhetorical question, nor can you apparently get your head around this.

    Snoopy
    #2695800, posted on April 26, 2018 at 10:07 am
    Of course that is a different issue to the prohibition of Alfie’s transfer to Italy.

    Did my comment on the corrupt birth of Sydney Airport Corporation trigger you perchance?

  55. Percy Porcelain

    Alanah McTiernan

    aka Madame Chateau Cardboard of the Airbrushed Billboard.

  56. Percy Porcelain

    Netflix is $12 a month now, a Lib pollie with 1/2 a brain would do a bulk deal and give the people a choice between that and the ABC

    Those liberal idiots recently whacked a new tax on Netflix, resulting in one less subscription for the latter (mine).

  57. Zyconoclast

    Ford ordered to pay $10 million fine for ‘unconscionable conduct’

    Ford admitted that, between May 1, 2015 and February 29, 2016, it mishandled responses to complaints from customers who had bought Fiesta, Focus and EcoSport vehicles fitted with PST.
    Customers had complained to Ford and the company’s dealers about a number of issues including excessive clutch shudder, noisy transmissions and excessive shuddering and jerking when accelerating.
    Of those vehicles, 37 per cent had at least one clutch replacement, but Australian Competition and Consumer Commission chairman Rod Sims said the company told consumers the issues were not its fault.

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/ford-ordered-to-pay-10-million-fine-for-unconscionable-conduct-20180426-p4zbrc.html

  58. Rae

    With children who are not the biological offspring of alleged parents becoming increasingly fashionable, and pretend parents who have children in order to appear normal, the reliance on the natural biological bond of parents loving their offspring is materially weakened, and with the arrogation of state power under leftism, we get little Alfie.

    Horseshit, Doc.

  59. Percy Porcelain

    Ford admitted that, between May 1, 2015 and February 29, 2016, it mishandled responses to complaints from customers who had bought Fiesta, Focus and EcoSport vehicles

    It is beyond comprehension why anyone would buy a Ford in the first place.

  60. Top Ender

    More from the Yassmin story above. It appears she lasted half a day in one job – because of her own fault. Which of course wasn’t.

    It wasn’t until after lunch when HR called me that things began to unravel.

    ‘Yassmin, do you mind bringing over your work visa?’

    I told her I’d thought the company had sorted out my visa.

    ‘Oh no, we never look after visa applications,’ she informed me. ‘It’s always the employee’s responsibility. Well, if you don’t have a work visa you can’t be an employee, and if you’re not an employee we can’t have you on the premises. You’re going to have to leave.’

    They kicked me out.

    It was the most embarrassing, humiliating, wretched experience I had ever had. I was certain the person who organised my contract had assured me there was nothing more I needed to do. Somehow, I had missed out on a crucial part of the whole process and just came in on a tourist visa.

  61. In the words of my grandfather: “If you can’t afford a Dodge, dodge a Ford.”

  62. Snoopy

    Ford admitted that, between May 1, 2015 and February 29, 2016, it mishandled responses to complaints from customers who had bought Fiesta, Focus and EcoSport vehicles fitted with PST.

    This problem couldn’t have been confined to Australia. Just the crap customer service was?

  63. Top Ender

    A quotation from Yassmin’s autobiography:

    “Islam is about being humble, communal, not focused on oneself.”

    Sure, right.

  64. Any more nuggets of YAM behind the paywall, TE?

  65. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2695993, posted on April 26, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    Somehow, I had missed out on a crucial part of the whole process and

    ‘my life problems keep occurring’ says Yam?

  66. Leigh Lowe

    Ford admitted that, between May 1, 2015 and February 29, 2016, it mishandled responses to complaints from customers who had bought Fiesta, Focus and EcoSport vehicles fitted with PST.

    Girl’s cars.
    Vehicle fitted with PST + Driver fitted with PMT = Trouble.

  67. H B Bear

    Alanah McTiernan

    Lannie’s knowledge of agriculture begins and ends once the cork is pulled out. And she is still one of the better members of Sneaker’s Cabinet.

  68. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2695993, posted on April 26, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    More from the Yassmin story above. It appears she lasted half a day in one job – because of her own fault. Which of course wasn’t.

    The Magpie is a bit slow on the uptake with these Visa thingy’s isn’t she?

  69. John Constantine

    “Mr Antonov admitted that he may have been “too blunt” in levelling the allegations, adding: “In the West, no one has asked questions about the fact that the Turkish president’s son heads one of the biggest energy companies, or that his son-in-law has been appointed energy minister. What a marvellous family business.”

    Their Hussein Obama refused to bomb the caliphate’s fuel trucks.

  70. Snoopy

    The Magpie is a bit slow on the uptake with these Visa thingy’s isn’t she?

    Yet once she was a child prodigy.

  71. Leigh Lowe

    It is beyond comprehension why anyone would buy a Ford in the first place.

    Because my father, and his father before him …

  72. JC

    Clearly you can’t recognise a simple rhetorical question, nor can you apparently get your head around this.

    Snoopy, you’ve been bumbling around with this subject for a good part of the day. In about a month it may sink in. I’m optimistic.

    Did my comment on the corrupt birth of Sydney Airport Corporation trigger you perchance?

    That’s original. I’m guessing that came from your frontal lobe and not from Tom who occasionally admonishes me for owning stock in a monopoly. What the hell is going on in FNQ? Too much ozone in the air?

  73. Single use plastic bags are a wonderfully cheap “carbon capture and storage” mechanism”.
    Hydrocarbons make the plastic bag, the bag gets used then buried in landfill.

    Any serious gangreen would lurrrv plastic bags. (Saving the ecosphere from carbons)

  74. Snoopy

    Their Hussein Obama refused to bomb the caliphate’s fuel trucks.

    Only because environment.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2696004, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    The Magpie is a bit slow on the uptake with these Visa thingy’s isn’t she?

    Yet once she was a child prodigy.

    Mmmmmyes.
    Yes she was.
    How much of her Eng Degree with Honours do you reckon was earned and how much do you reckon was down to her being a multi-culti feminist project by the Uni?
    Most engineers I know are annoyingly cautiously pedantic about everything, but she continues to blunder into one fuck-up after another, due to her failure to ask fundamental questions and do basic admin.

  76. Roger.

    Most engineers I know are annoyingly cautiously pedantic about everything, but she continues to blunder into one fuck-up after another, due to her failure to ask fundamental questions and do basic admin.

    Praise be to Allah that she never actually got to build anything.

    Btw, the St Gallen Symposium theme this year is “Beyond the End of Work”.

    Given Yass’s sporadic relationship with having a real job she ought to be an expert on that.

  77. Snoopy

    Snoopy, you’ve been bumbling around with this subject for a good part of the day.

    Here’s a thought. Instead of simply accusing me of bumbling around why don’t you point out my errors?

    What the hell is going on in FNQ? Too much ozone in the air?

    For the record, I live nowhere near FNQ. In fact I live closer to you. Get a rake from Monty next time you take him on a date.

  78. Zyconoclast

    It is beyond comprehension why anyone would buy a Ford in the first place.

    Because my father, and his father before him …

    That may be true for a Falcon or a Ford Ute but not a Focus, Fiesta or an Ecoboost.

  79. Fat Tony

    Leigh Lowe
    #2696010, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:10 pm
    Most engineers I know are annoyingly cautiously pedantic about everything,

    You got that right – I even piss the grandkids off when I do a double-check on addresses, times etc.
    They don’t understand that I like to confirm things – it’s a lot cheaper than fuck-ups.

  80. Deplorable

    Percy Porcelain
    #2695938, posted on April 26, 2018 at 12:54 pm
    Christian Porter is a monumental dullard who is going to lose his seat at the next election in a landslide and I have zero faith in the stupid.forking.liberals appointing anyone to replace Dim Southpossuminsane who isn’t an offensive self aggrandizing collectivist imbecile.

    I’m not planning on being disappointed, peoples.
    To be truthful I would imagine the Department head will offer up his recommendations based on the same rubbish they put up before. The minister will have limited input and choice, this is how it all works. Ministers do not run the government, department heads do as they will tell us and the Minister who will obey. So much for elections.

  81. Zyconoclast

    Mmmmmyes.
    Yes she was.
    How much of her Eng Degree with Honours do you reckon was earned and how much do you reckon was down to her being a multi-culti feminist project by the Uni?
    Most engineers I know are annoyingly cautiously pedantic about everything, but she continues to blunder into one fuck-up after another, due to her failure to ask fundamental questions and do basic admin.

    Wasn’t it a multi-culti affirmative action company that designed and built the collapsed Florida bridge?

  82. H B Bear

    What an utter crock of BS is this “conversation” over SloMo’s abandonment of yet another Lieboral tax increase. The Medicare Levy doesn’t even fully fund the health care costs of the Federal government (which should be a State responsibility anyway). Gillard’s NDIS Godzilla is already costing around $22bn a year and SloMo’s tax increase was apparently going to raise about $8bn over the four year Budget period.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    Praise be to Allah that she never actually got to build anything.

    As I said here the other day, the pictures of her in her hard-turban on an offshore platform were pure PR for the wymminses HR at Shell.
    There is no way a first year grad would be allowed to have design input into anything more critical than a new microwave shelf for the crib room.
    This story ran on this day last year and pretty much highlights the Yassie problem.
    Reading between the lines, it seems that the HR wymminses were keen to keep extending her LWOP and it was pointed out that much more experienced and deserving cases had had the rug pulled after one year on LWOP.
    In the midst of this battle it appears that at least one adult at Shell figured out that she was a PR liability rather than an asset, and likely to be a five-star fucking nuisance if she returned.

  84. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2696018, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    ALP/Greens don’t pass expenditure cuts.

  85. Roger.

    Germans sought to atone for their anti-Semitic past by importing hundreds of thousands of anti-Semites from the ME. Now things like this are a regular occurrence:

    Last week two young men wearing yarmulkahs were assaulted in broad daylight on a Berlin street by a belt-wielding “migrant” of ME appearance yelling “Yahudi” with assorted epithets attached. Ironically, one of the two victims was actually an Israeli Arab who was trying to prove to his Israeli J3wish friend that it was safe to wear a yarmulkah on Berlin streets.

    Angela Merkel condemned the attack while Foreign Minister Heiko Maas tweeted “J3ws shall never again feel threatened here”. Too late, mate.

  86. Zyconoclast

    More of Perth’s sewage could be treated and injected back into the city’s groundwater supply, with tests on metropolitan sewerage plants to work out their suitability for the process already underway.

    The Water Corporation said while there were no firm time frames, it was feasible that eventually 100 per cent of Perth’s sewage could be recycled and put back into drinking water.
    Just 10 per cent of the city’s 134 billion litres of wastewater is recycled into drinking supplies via a landmark treatment plant at Beenyup in Craigie, in the northern suburbs.

    The utility is currently expanding the plant’s capacity from 14 billion litres to 28 billion litres a year, in a move that will cost $262 million and is set to be completed in 2019.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-25/how-alll-perth-sewage-could-be-turned-into-drinking-water/9472046

  87. JC

    Here’s a thought. Instead of simply accusing me of bumbling around why don’t you point out my errors?

    Go to your first comment then read the responses several commenters have posted to your rubbish, then work your way down the thread. It’s not going anywhere.
    Earlier you excused this stupidity as rhetorical flourishes and brought in a Sydney Airport investment as somehow relevant to the discussion about a kid being sniffed out in the UK.

    Snoopy, don’t be like Outback Sal and try to make hay from paying down a bet. Try and be original.

  88. stackja

    Zyconoclast
    #2696025, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Desal plants were supposedly the solution to all the water problems.

  89. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2695993, posted on April 26, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    More from the Yassmin story above. It appears she lasted half a day in one job – because of her own fault. Which of course wasn’t.

    It wasn’t until after lunch when HR called me that things began to unravel.

    ‘Yassmin, do you mind bringing over your work visa?’

    I told her I’d thought the company had sorted out my visa.

    ‘Oh no, we never look after visa applications,’ she informed me. ‘It’s always the employee’s responsibility. Well, if you don’t have a work visa you can’t be an employee, and if you’re not an employee we can’t have you on the premises. You’re going to have to leave.’

    I assume this is a separate prior incident to her being “arrested” at JFK?

  90. Snoopy

    Go to your first comment then read the responses several commenters have posted to your rubbish, then work your way down the thread. It’s not going anywhere.

    So you got nothing.

  91. JC

    You’ve been watching to many episodes of Law & Order, snooops.

  92. calli

    There was a lot of talk about the relevance of ANZAC Day yesterday. I know I’m late to the discussion, but I had a chat about it with our guide.

    He knew all about it. It puzzled him that Australia would place such importance on a terrible defeat instead of a victory. He thought it must be something about Australia, something unique. And he is right.

    Boastfulness is still seen as a bit tacky, we cut our smart *rses down to size, we have absolutely no idea how precious our country is until we travel and see REAL sh*tholes.

    Someone here said “Is that too difficult for you? Here, let me do it for you.” That’s our danger. Perpetual adolescence in the face of relentless nannying.

  93. H B Bear

    Anti-antisemitism is about the only aspect of German culture that the MENA medieval savages seemed to have actually assimilated. This would not be a surprise to Mutti Merkel.

  94. Roger.

    we have absolutely no idea how precious our country is until we travel and see REAL sh*tholes.

    Ain’t it the truth.

    My wanderlust was cured by travelling abroad!

  95. Fat Tony

    Zyconoclast
    #2696025, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    More of Perth’s sewage could be treated and injected back into the city’s groundwater supply, with tests on metropolitan sewerage plants to work out their suitability for the process already underway.

    The long term plan is direct potable recycling. This means that the recycled shit-water is pumped straight into reservoirs and into homes – toilet to tap.

    Given the complexity of treatment plants, the multitudes of toxins that get flushed down the dunnies and other waterways, the few toxins that are tested for, the desire for profit and human error make this the potential for a real disaster, which, of course, will be covered up as much as possible.

    John Constantine could see the desirability of this for the planned future of the prols in Australia.

  96. With children who are not the biological offspring of alleged parents becoming increasingly fashionable, and pretend parents who have children in order to appear normal, the reliance on the natural biological bond of parents loving their offspring is materially weakened, and with the arrogation of state power under leftism, we get little Alfie.

    This is certainly a large part of the problem.

  97. Fat Tony

    And don’t forget the massive profits associated with direct potable recycling.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    There was a lot of talk about the relevance of ANZAC Day yesterday.

    April 25 is also Liberation Day in Italy.

  99. calli

    Fat Tony
    #2696015, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    Leigh Lowe
    #2696010, posted on April 26, 2018 at 2:10 pm
    Most engineers I know are annoyingly cautiously pedantic about everything,

    Wonderful, aren’t they? I ask mine, “Can this be done?”, and his answer is invariably “Yes. I’ll make sure it can”. And I know it will work.

  100. Leigh Lowe

    Wonderful, aren’t they? I ask mine, “Can this be done?”, and his answer is invariably “Yes. I’ll make sure it can”. And I know it will work.

    The builder I use says something similar:-
    Me : “Can we do X?”
    Builder : “We can do anything …”
    Me : “(great)”
    Builder : “… it just depends how much you want to spend.”
    Me : “(Uh-oh)”

  101. Zyconoclast

    Anybody ever heard of the…?

    The Friendly Nation Initiative
    http://fni.org.au/

    About the initiative

    The Friendly Nation Initiative is a business led strategy that seeks to increase employment, mentoring, training, and internship opportunities for refugees and humanitarian migrants. With a particular focus on the special intake of 12,000 Syrian and Iraqi refugees, it recognises that creating pathways to employment is a crucial step in the process of resettling newly arrived refugees.
    Backed by an expert Steering Committee, including representatives from the Business Council of Australia, the Australian Industry Group and the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, (and th National Farmers Federation NFF) the Friendly Nation Initiative seeks to build effective partnerships between corporate Australia and settlement services, better linking the needs of business with the skills of refugees.
    Encouraging businesses to play an active leadership role in the resettlement of refugees enhances Australia’s well-known capacity to integrate new populations and will contribute to improving overall integration outcomes.

  102. calli

    Lol. The question always goes with long arms and deep pockets. Cheapskates need not apply.

    Are we still talking about the ridiculous Yass-bin? What a waste of precious pixels.

  103. Bruce of Newcastle

    And don’t forget the massive profits associated with direct potable recycling.

    Ironically the best way to recycle poo water is through a desalination plant.
    The pores in the reverse osmosis membranes are too small for viruses and carcinogens to get through.
    Unfortunately poo water happens to contain a lot of nitrogen and phosphorus, which means it is just perfect for growing biofilms – the bête noire of RO plants.

  104. calli

    But she is oddly alluring in a poke-it-with-a-stick and see if she moves kind of way.

  105. notafan

    Somehow, I had missed out on a crucial part of the whole process and just came in on a tourist visa.

    Someone else should have organised her work visa but she (knowingly) traveled on a tourist visa.

    That doesn’t even make sense.

    Yammie is a classic muslim victim, which means not.

    I do not mind at all hearing more of the Perils of being a Brown Muslim in a Hostile Anglo World, where rules are rules and not sharia.

  106. Snoopy

    Ironically the best way to recycle poo water is through a desalination plant.
    The pores in the reverse osmosis membranes are too small for viruses and carcinogens to get through.
    Unfortunately poo water happens to contain a lot of nitrogen and phosphorus, which means it is just perfect for growing biofilms – the bête noire of RO plants.

    What if they mix the treated sewerage with a lot of seawater?

  107. calli

    Amgrow used to do massive windrows of straw and sewage sludge, called it Bio-Grow. Fabulous stuff. It may be an urban myth, but the chemical composition changed just after Easter because of the amount of chocolate eaten.

    What that did to the plants I have no idea. It’s a good dinner table anecdote though, just right for dessert. 😀

  108. Makka

    Yammie is a classic muslim victim,

    100%.

    They all are, every one of them. Brainwashed from birth.

  109. JC

    The pores in the reverse osmosis membranes are too small for viruses and carcinogens to get through.

    I recall years ago, geeks at MIT had came through with some revolutionary membrane for de-sal plants, but I would never have believed they could get it down to this minuteness. Freaking wow.

  110. Snoopy

    Calli, unless you return with a selfie of you and that ‘Gyppo chap who’s always on the History Channel, I’m going to find it difficult you’ve actually been to Egypt.

  111. wivenhoe

    What if they mix the treated sewerage with a lot of seawater?

    Ahh, Sydney Harbour?

  112. Mother Lode

    What if they mix the treated sewerage with a lot of seawater?

    Why don’t they just add sugar to sea water. That should stop it being so bitter and make it drinkable.

    And I am not even an engineer! Just a three week cooking course.

  113. Fat Tony

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2696046, posted on April 26, 2018 at 3:01 pm
    And don’t forget the massive profits associated with direct potable recycling.

    Ironically the best way to recycle poo water is through a desalination plant.
    The pores in the reverse osmosis membranes are too small for viruses and carcinogens to get through.

    Yeah – that’s why the last process is ultraviolet radiation to kill the ………….

  114. Top Ender

    Comments under the Yassmin article in the Oz are giving up gems:

    Ginny 54 MINUTES AGO
    Perhaps your article didn’t have space to include further mention of privileged Yassmin’s hypocrisy: she actually sat on an Anzac Day committee for the Australian Government ahead of her serial dissing of Lest We Forget. Or that, while decrying racism, she runs a speaker’s bureau that excludes whites based on race.

  115. JC

    Maybe there’s a positive borne from stupidity I never thought of until I read Bagehot. Bagehot is the finest editor the Economist has ever seen and his thoughts and writings are famous. This what he thought about fellow Brits. (Walter Bagehot or Wally to his friends).

    It’s elitist, but still funny.

    Walter Bagehot (1826-1877) – best known as one of the earliest and most important of the editors of The Economist – had no great opinion of the mental sprightliness of his countrymen, but he considered their thick-headedness a virtue from the political point of view. In his Letters on the French Coup d’État he writes without irony that: “I fear you will laugh when I tell you what I conceive to be about the most essential mental quality for a free people whose liberty is to be progressive, permanent, and on a large scale: it is much stupidity.”
    “what we opprobriously call ‘stupidity’… is nature’s favorite resource for preserving steadiness of conduct and consistency of opinion.”
    “A proper stupidity
    – he explained – keeps a man from all the defects of this character… He is very slow indeed to be excited – his passions, his feelings, and his affections are dull and tardy strong things, falling in a certain known direction, fixed on certain known objects… You always know where to find his mind. Now, this is exactly what (in politics at least) you do not know about a Frenchman.”

    It got me thinking that maybe I should go easier on the lighter brained nincompoops here.

  116. Makka

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    It’s the Australian War Memorial, you fking idiots.

  117. calli

    Off to the Pyramids now, plus a j-wellers for a cartouche. Gotta fly.

  118. Leigh Lowe

    A yuuuge part of the solution for water would be if they stopped getting their knickers in a twist about grey water usage.
    Of the volume of water used and returned to the sewer the percentage of turd based water vis-a-vis grey water is quite low.
    Of course, we need to be a little careful with laundry and dishwasher water due to the detergents, but bath water (or “drinking water” as it is referred to in Africa) is pretty harmless stuff.

  119. John Constantine

    The salt taken out of the seawater by their desal rorts is an environmental poison and protestors will prevent this poison being dumped at sea.

    Dune style stillsuits for the proles, to recycle your own waste.

    At least you know you won’t get a heap of crazy hormones and second hand drugs and medications through general sewerage.

    When their mafia run the drinking supply, and the superprofits for rough recycling are on offer, we don’t really expect anyone will drink it?.

    Let the proles drink Perrier.

    Comrades.

  120. John Constantine

    In the middle ages, the proles just drank weak low alcohol beer because the water killed them.

    Everything old is new again.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    What if they mix the treated sewerage with a lot of seawater?

    Snoopy – That would work. Not as good as direct treatment because the big benefit of poo water is it has a low osmotic pressure, so the yield of permeate is much higher. Biofilm growth is a problem for sea water desal too though – it is handled by adding biocides or by UV treatment, so as a way of getting some use out of poo water it’s probably better than pumping it down a hole and hoping the rock removes all the nasties.

    I mentioned one specific very potent nasty called NDMA some weeks ago. I hope whoever is looking at the Perth recycling issue is assessing it carefully.

  122. Mother Lode

    I know with the Sydney desal, John, that the higher saline water left after the reverse osmosis is mixed with large volumes of seawater before it is returned to the sea. The difference in salinity of the water released at the outlets compared to the ambient waters in extremely small.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    Because we successfully repelled an invasion?

  124. JC

    The salt taken out of the seawater by their desal rorts is an environmental poison and protestors will prevent this poison being dumped at sea.

    I’ve read a variation of this a few times. But it’s salt and if you return it to the sea it makes no difference.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #2696069, posted on April 26, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    It’s the Australian War Memorial, you fking idiots.

    And so the sellout continues.
    Nelson is all over this one too.
    He has his begging bowl out for an extension, but the gummint (ie Lucy’s tennis gals) are playing hardball, so he has to come up with “inclusivity”.
    They already have a small section near the entrance with a big dot painting and references to how Aboriginals “defended country”.
    I’ll pass, if it all the same to you, as you don’t seem to have been too shit-hot at it.
    I prefer to go over to the far wall and have a look at the Turkish model, circa 1915, thanks.

  126. Snoopy

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    Marles never supported OSB. He’s up to something no good.

  127. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the Friendly Nation Initiative seeks to build effective partnerships between corporate Australia and settlement services, better linking the needs of business with the skills of refugees.

    truck driving. belt manufacture. ak47 training

  128. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    What the hell?

    Will we also be recognizing customs officers who stop elderly Asian ladies bringing in dried fruit?

  129. John Constantine

    Had a check on the “small beer”, the liquid bread with low booze percentage drunk in olden days.

    Urban myth debunking sites say water was drunk heaps, not just small beer, so the middle ages had more potable water than Big Australia will have.

  130. Leigh Lowe

    John Constantine

    #2696075, posted on April 26, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    In the middle ages, the proles just drank weak low alcohol beer because the water killed them.

    I read a book a while back about the construction of the cathedral in Florence and the lads building the dome were drinking wine for that very same reason.
    Now, I don’t think they were going through a goon bag of 13% chardy on the scaffold 300 ft in the air, but there was a bit of alcohol in it.
    Safer than H20.

  131. Snoopy

    Mind like a steel trap.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    What the hell?

    Will we also be recognizing customs officers who stop elderly Asian ladies bringing in dried fruit?

    Actually they are not called “customs officers” any more.
    The official title is “Field Mushroom Marshalls”.

  133. John Constantine

    The Spencer Gulf desalinisation plant was bitterly opposed because of the danger to the eggs of the Giant Australian Cuttlefish posed by the salt discharge.

  134. Rae

    Terence McMaster dodging and weaving in the box at the Banking Royal Commission this arvo. About to be skewered by Counsel Assisting Mark Costello.

  135. Top Ender

    Yes, the Yassmin incident above describes her conflict with the HR department of a UK company which employed her as an engineer.

    For half a day.

  136. C.L.

    It puzzled him that Australia would place such importance on a terrible defeat instead of a victory.

    Indeed.
    Ask a 15 year-old about Long Tan. Hell, ask a 30 year-old about it.
    They’ll tell you it’s what Trump has once a week.

  137. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Spencer Gulf desalinisation plant was bitterly opposed because of the danger to the eggs of the Giant Australian Cuttlefish posed by the salt discharge.

    Yet I recall no such opposition to the Great Victorian White Elephant or the Krazy Kurnell one.

  138. Rae

    McMaster, a lawyer, has just admitted his own evidence could not be relied upon.

  139. Baldrick

    Labor left MPs and the Greens are perturbed that the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    The War Memorial is no place for political activism-

    The Australian War Memorial combines a shrine, a world-class museum, and an extensive archive. The Memorial’s purpose is to commemorate the sacrifice of those Australians who have died in war. Its mission is to assist Australians to remember, interpret and understand the Australian experience of war and its enduring impact on Australian society.

  140. H B Bear

    For half a day.

    That must have been the length of time it took them to organise a flight back to Australia. Bet the Poms wish they had done that with Rolf and Germaine too.

  141. jupes

    They already have a small section near the entrance with a big dot painting and references to how Aboriginals “defended country”.

    Fuck. Me. Dead.

  142. Snoopy

    Yes, the Yassmin incident above describes her conflict with the HR department of a UK company which employed her as an engineer.

    I hope the staffer who identified that loophole was suitably rewarded.

  143. wivenhoe

    Yes, the Yassmin incident above describes her conflict with the HR department of a UK company which employed her as an engineer.
    For half a day.

    But I am sure that when it suits, and works in her favour, that half a day will be prominent in her bio.

  144. jupes

    Well they “defended country” very badly.

    They were defeated by a ‘force’ of under 1500 men, women and children.

  145. Mother Lode

    I think we can take it as read that opposition to projects on environmental grounds is usually a cover for greenies and their fury that we are not all living in yurts only wearing rope sandles that have fallen from the tree and giving thanks to gaia for the lice from each others bodies and the nutrients they provide.

  146. notafan

    She is everything I ever thought she would be on ahed al tamini and BDS

  147. cohenite

    Fancy that, some econuts are conceding wind and solar do not work because:

    That leaves us with solar and wind as the key suspects behind higher electricity prices. But why would cheaper solar panels and wind turbines make electricity more expensive?

    The main reason appears to have been predicted by a young German economist in 2013.

    In a paper in Energy Policy, Leon Hirth estimated that the economic value of wind and solar would decline significantly as they become a larger part of electricity supply.

    The reason? Their fundamentally unreliable nature. Both solar and wind produce too much energy when societies don’t need it, and not enough when they do.

    Solar and wind thus require that natural gas plants, hydro-electric dams, batteries or some other form of reliable power be ready at a moment’s notice to start churning out electricity when the wind stops blowing and the sun stops shining.

    And unreliability requires solar- and/or wind-heavy places like Germany, California, and Denmark to pay neighboring nations or states to take their solar and wind energy when they are producing too much of it.

    Hirth predicted that the economic value of wind on the European grid would decline 40 percent once it becomes 30 percent of electricity while the value of solar would drop by 50 percent when it got to just 15 percent.

    Perhaps head prefect™ can advise the economics of renewables which his boy macron is advocating.

  148. C.L.

    … the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.
    —————-
    What the hell?
    Will we also be recognizing customs officers who stop elderly Asian ladies bringing in dried fruit?

    —————-
    Ahahahahahahaha.
    This country.
    I’m sorry to go on about it, I really am. But this idiocy began with ANZAC Day free-stylin’ and Brendan Nelson inaugurating a publicly funded cult of ancestor worship. One day a year was never going to be enough for this ravenous, mawkish tax monster.

  149. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    Have you read Terror and Consent by Philip Bobbitt?

    He makes a case from about Ch 10 on that international law needs to be updated to reflect modern reality. Thought you might be interested in the context of your writings on the subject.

    He sinks the slipper (only a slipper, he is an academic and bureaucrat after all) into both the international lawyers and the human rights activists over their reluctance to consider any change, for fear that their whole edifices might collapse.

  150. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Banking RC just adjourned itself on the live stream. Mr Costello was just herding McMaster (a lawyer) into a very tight corner, with a bit of help from the Commish. Dare say McMaster will be looking for a hole in the fence during his overnight ruminations. Lawyer versus Lawyer all very interesting.

  151. thefrolickingmole

    So logicaly that means my 4 years+ of fighting with detention center detritus was as “brave” as active service in WW2?

    Yeah
    Nah
    Dont think so.

  152. Baldrick

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2696116, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    The Banking RC just adjourned itself on the live stream …

    Who’s the witness that collapsed at today’s hearings GM?

  153. Oh come on

    The ABC reports:

    The Turnbull Government’s “remarkable discipline” in spending has it on track to achieve a budget surplus on schedule, but a leading analyst has warned it could quickly evaporate in tax cuts

    Warned? Government surpluses are immoral. That is our money being hoarded by the state.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    So logicaly that means my 4 years+ of fighting with detention center detritus was as “brave” as active service in WW2?

    Hard to know really …

    (Bruce) Ruxton served in World War II in the South West Pacific Area. He enlisted in the Second Australian Imperial Force on 21 February 1944, listing his civilian occupation as “pupil land surveyor”. He was allocated the service number VX94379. In late 1944, he was posted to the Royal Australian Engineers, serving for two months with the 2nd Australian Field Survey Company in Queensland before then joining the 2/1st Australian Topographical Survey Company in December 1944. He sailed to Morotai with this unit in April 1945. In June 1945, Private Ruxton was posted to the 2/25th Australian Infantry Battalion and served both as a rifleman and in the battalion’s intelligence section in the Balikpapan in Borneo.

    After the war ended, Ruxton volunteered to serve in Japan with the British Commonwealth Occupation Force. He was posted to the 65th Infantry Battalion, part of the 34th Australian Infantry Brigade, and was deployed to Japan in early 1946. In late 1947, Ruxton attended the British Commonwealth Occupation Force School of Cookery and qualified as an army cook, after which he was transferred to the Australian Army Catering Corps. He served in Japan until December 1948 when he returned to Australia. He was discharged from the Army on 13 January 1949.[1]

    Probably killed more Japs with his Irish Stew than by any other means.

  155. Makka

    He sinks the slipper (only a slipper, he is an academic and bureaucrat after all) into both the international lawyers and the human rights activists over their reluctance to consider any change, for fear that their whole edifices might collapse.

    One of the big rorts Trump has nailed is the siphoning off of hundreds of millions in taxpayers hard earned from the EPA and other dodgy USGov tax eating mechanisms into the filth’s worldwide money laundering and parasite scams. Such as HR orgs, NGO’s and indeed the Clinton Foundation. Predictably the ‘caring’ leftscum are bellowing that their ‘essential’ programs will be shut down forcing them to work for a living.

    For example, there are calculations that 12 Billion was sent to Haiti after the disaster there of which only 10c on the $ actually hit the ground. You only have to see the lifestyles of the in-country UN to know what an enormously profitable scam it actually is.

  156. Baldrick

    This just coming through on the wires:

    Sarah Danckert ✔ @sdanck (The Age)
    Terry McMaster collapsed in the witness box. Ambulance is here.

    Looks like McMaster just pulled the oldest trick in the book.

  157. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2696116, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    The Banking RC just adjourned itself on the live stream …

    How is the “I do not recall” count going as against the TURC?

  158. JC

    Perhaps head prefect™ can advise the economics of renewables which his boy macron is advocating.

    Cohenite, your biggest failing is dishonesty and or an unwillingness to listen. I’m not which of those two dreadful failings you suffer from. I made a point of saying Macron isn’t perfect, but he’s certainly better, or at least acted better than any of the leaders in terms of other big Euro-weenie countries. If you disagree with that, then spell out why. Now remember, that if you decide to reply, don’t offer up any absolutist reasons why he’s bad. You need to explain your reasons in relative terms…. Like

    I think the overweight German Frumpelein is superior to Macron for these reasons…..

    Now let me explain why I think you may be on the dishonest side. If you recall, sometime ago you thought you gave me a me a lesson on the science of gerbil warning in what I would describe as a hauty, nose up sort of way, which I never take to very well. Towards the end, I suggested to you that I would be closer to Judith Curry’s position on gerbiling, which therefore make me a luke warmer like her. She clearly describes herself that way. You had the temerity to suggest that wasn’t Curry’s position. It’s at that point when I lost respect for you because we all know that isn’t true. Prior to that, I was very taken aback one time, many years ago when you let that noxious pygmy (Tim Lambert) wipe the floor with you. Other than that all’s fine. 🙂

  159. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2696104, posted on April 26, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    Well they “defended country” very badly.

    They were defeated by a ‘force’ of under 1500 men, women and children.

    That was my point, and why I moseyed over to the Gallipolli and Tobruk sections to see how defending territory might be done better.
    BTW, they are still placing wreaths over the inscription “Known Unto God” at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I incurred the wrath of one of the attendants by moving them to read the inscription.

  160. Desal plants were supposedly the solution to all the water problems.

    Desal to solve water shortage requires something in greater shortage than water. Electrickery.

  161. C.L.

    Why do they put wreaths over the solemn words?
    Is that conventional?

  162. The Barking Toad

    They were defeated by a ‘force’ of under 1500 men, women and children. Jupes @ 3:52PM

    Undernourished and physically weakened after a long sea voyage too.

  163. Top Ender

    Thanks Boambee John: Terror and Consent has been added to my reading list…

  164. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2696136, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:22 pm
    Desal plants were supposedly the solution to all the water problems.

    Desal to solve water shortage requires something in greater shortage than water. Electrickery.

    Wind turbines deal for Kurnell desalination plant | Daily Telegraph
    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
    May 13, 2008 – The NSW government has agreed to a 20-year energy supply deal to ensure wind turbines will power Sydneys controversial desalination plant.

  165. JC

    Desal to solve water shortage requires something in greater shortage than water. Electrickery.

    Carbon slaves work. A long lost lunatic commenter here, Metro Mick was my carbons slave for a while until he broke the slave laws and took off. If I ever find him he’s certainly in a for a decent beating.

    Metro Mick’s carbon free bike that I bought for him as a feed in to the grid.

  166. Top Ender

    … the shadow defence minister, Richard Marles, has supported a move for the Australian War Memorial to commemorate Operation Sovereign Borders.

    I served for some of my ADF career with this Operation.

    It should have no place in the Australian War Memorial. It was not a war.

  167. Wind turbines deal for Kurnell desalination plant | Daily Telegraph
    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au
    May 13, 2008 – The NSW government has agreed to a 20-year energy supply deal to ensure wind turbines will power Sydneys controversial desalination plant.

    So how is that working out?
    Lotsa free water flowing from the plant?

  168. Snoopy

    May 13, 2008 – The NSW government has agreed to a 20-year energy supply deal to ensure wind turbines will power Sydneys controversial desalination plant.

    A desal plant that doesn’t produce water powered by fans that don’t produce electricity. Who said governments never get anything right?

  169. thefrolickingmole

    On desal.
    I does kill off parts of the sea bed.
    The water released is very dense with salt & minerals and tends to stay in a “slug” until turbidity breaks it up.

    We have the same problem with salt bitterns, depending on the volumes and tidal flow it can effect either a small area or travel for a long, long way.

    Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, a loss of a few km2 of sea bed for the water supplies of a few million people seems a pretty good trade off.
    Problem for the pollies is they generally have to build the things near frightbat colonies who think a numbed numbat or hungry blowfish is a catastrophe.

  170. Geriatric Mayfly

    How is the “I do not recall” count going as against the TURC?

    Very, very poorly LL. This turnout is not a patch on on the TURC for collective amnesia. In fact ‘I do not recall’ more than one or two.

    If McMaster collapsed is that why the feed also collapsed without notice? Very odd.

  171. jupes

    In June 1945, Private Ruxton was posted to the 2/25th Australian Infantry Battalion and served both as a rifleman and in the battalion’s intelligence section in the Balikpapan in Borneo.

    Balikpapan was a three brigade amphibious landing followed by three weeks of combat.

    Ruxton would have seen more action than 95% of this century’s veterans.

  172. “I do not recall” has been superseded by “I can’t say with any certainty”

  173. JC

    On desal.
    I does kill off parts of the sea bed.
    The water released is very dense with salt & minerals and tends to stay in a “slug” until turbidity breaks it up.

    I thought the solution was they would barge it out and spread it over a short time. Wasn’t that resolved?

  174. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #2696137, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    Why do they put wreaths over the solemn words?
    Is that conventional?

    They tried to have said words removed, but backed down after a public outcry.

    This is their bureaucratic solution, cover the words so no one sees them.

    Sleazy pricks.

  175. Oh come on

    Several countries and cultures attach great historic importance to heroic, honourable and/or defiant military defeats or setbacks. The Battle of Thermopylae springs to mind immediately, but there are others such as the Battle of Kosovo and its significance for Serbia, perhaps Dunkirk.

  176. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2696137, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Why do they put wreaths over the solemn words?
    Is that conventional?

    There are two inscriptions.
    The more conventional “Known Unto God” at one end and the quite Gillardian “He is all of them. And he is one of us.” at the other.
    The latter phrase is lifted from the quite banal Keating speech delivered at the dedication ceremony in 1993.
    Since 1993, the word God has been deemed to be offensive (admittedly there are occasions where both inscriptions are covered, but more usually it is the one at the rear … “Known Unto God“).
    I did a tour where they were describing that the vision for the Hall of Memory was that it not be religious (which is bullshit when you look at the imagery on the inside of the dome).

  177. stackja

    A hectare-sized roof has been blown off the main building at the Kurnell desalination plant. “Other damage is in the control room; the wind blew straight through. It blew windows out, so there has been water and wind damage in the control room itself.”Dec 17, 2015

    What is happening at the Sydney Desalination site?
    The Sydney Desalination Plant is undergoing major repair following significant damage during a severe storm event that tore through the Kurnell area in December 2015.

    After running a competitive tender process, we have selected John Holland Pty Ltd to undertake the repairs.

    Desalination Plant Project | Kurnell
    Due to a tornado that swept through the Cronulla region in December 2015, the Desalination Plant at Kurnell suffered significant structural damage to major parts of the plant.

    Allfab was engaged to complete a number of repairs to the plant and have done so with zero safety incidents.

    Permeate Tank Removal

    Two damaged permeate tanks required removal and were subsequently replaced with new tanks (approx. 15 metres in diameter and 15 metres tall). This part of the project involved disassembling the roof structure housing the two tanks, demolishing the concrete foundations and disconnecting the existing salt water inlet and out pipework.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Ruxton would have seen more action than 95% of this century’s veterans.

    Folding maps?
    To be fair, his exposure was pretty short .. not without it’s perils but considerably less risky than Tobruk or Kokoda.
    I am comparing him to his peers, not to 21st century counterparts.
    I don’t recall Bruce ever modestly underplaying his part … “Tojo. My Part in his Downfall.”
    (with apologies to Spike Milligan).

  179. cohenite

    Saying macron is better than other European leaders is like saying which type of cancer is better. I have explained to you that he is a pro-UN alarmist. Any argument about economic credentials are swamped by that. His alarmist impact on French energy will be mitigated by the relative stability which French nuclear energy provides but he is advocating renewables and every cent spent on renewables undermines a productive economy.

    Your explanation for having a shot at me is typically misleading. I never said Judith Curry was not a luke-warmer; she is as is Roy Spencer and several other sceptics in as much they accept that human CO2 contributes some warming. The argument is how much. Curry is at the mid range, Spencer less so and people like Bob Carter thought its effect was so tiny as to be immeasurable.

    The real reason for your spleen was your inability to understand a greenhouse was not like an atmosphere and hence the greenhouse term used by alarmists was just another misrepresentation by them

  180. Leigh Lowe

    It should have no place in the Australian War Memorial. It was not a war.

    You’ve not heard of the infamous Battle of Burnt Fingies or the Confiscated Mobile Phone Campaign?

  181. C.L.

    “He is all of them. And he is one of us.”

    FMD, that is so sickeningly Keating – which is to say, so Don Watson. Adolescent trash prose.
    He is not all of them at all. He is a specific, unknown man – known unto God.
    He represents all the other unknowns.

  182. stackja

    Over half these casualties (73,485) were British and Irish troops. New Zealand suffered around 8000 killed and wounded, about 5.6 percent of Allied casualties on Gallipoli. The Ottoman Empire paid a heavy price for their victory: an estimated 250,000 Turkish and Arab troops were killed or wounded defending Gallipoli.

    Did Gallipoli landing distract Turkey from the Suez Canal? Later Turks again faced the Light Horse. Different outcome.

  183. The Beer Whisperer

    How To Serve Your Fellow Man by The Cannibals

    Puritans wear red bandanas by Peter Fitzsimons.

  184. Leigh Lowe

    Boambee John

    #2696157, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    C.L.
    #2696137, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    Why do they put wreaths over the solemn words?
    Is that conventional?

    They tried to have said words removed, but backed down after a public outcry.

    I can see them being replaced sometime soon …
    “Known only unto a deity(1) of his/her/other’s choosing.
    (1) Without disrespecting those who are atheists.”

  185. H B Bear

    “He is all of them. And he is one of us.”
    FMD, that is so sickeningly Keating – which is to say, so Don Watson. Adolescent trash prose.

    That is a very generous assessment CL. Banal saccharine crap.

  186. Senile Old Guy

    The Turnbull Government’s “remarkable discipline” in spending has it on track to achieve a budget surplus on schedule, but a leading analyst has warned it could quickly evaporate in tax cuts

    Lord Waffle’s “remarkable discipline” has given us the biggest spending and debt in our history.

  187. LL.
    Atheists are also known unto to God.
    I believe he hands their names over to someone else.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    LL.
    Atheists are also known unto to God.
    I believe he hands their names over to someone else.

    There is that.
    But I doubt your modern day inscription writers will go near that.
    The truth is, whoever Pte Unknown is, it is almost 99.8% certain that his enlistment papers would have listed a Christian religion.
    I searched for an Achmed or a Mohamed among the 60,000 on the wall but without success.

  189. jupes

    Folding maps?

    No. Battalion intelligence sections went on patrol and fought for intelligence back in the day.

    Ruxton was a rifleman. Don’t knock his service.

  190. DrBeauGan

    I’m a godless heathen. I understand the meaning of “Known unto God” and think it a fine and evocative expression of a profound feeling. By contrast, the Keating/Watson line is rubbish.

    These people are too stupid to be atheists.

  191. Boambee John

    incoherent rambler
    #2696180, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    LL.
    Atheists are also known unto to God.
    I believe he hands their names over to someone else.

    Great Rowan Atkinson sketch on this theme.

  192. Leigh Lowe

    The Turnbull Government’s “remarkable discipline” in spending has it on track to achieve a budget surplus on schedule, but a leading analyst has warned it could quickly evaporate in tax cuts

    There was a reference upthread to the Greens and the ALP always knocking back spending cuts.
    My understanding used to be that the Budget was an omnibus bill … take it or leave it.
    If … if … Trumble and Slo-mo had any balls, they could just say, “Good. You don’t want to cut spending there. Come back and suggest where else from within that portfolio you would cut.”
    So, the Greeenfilth can’t simply wave away Social Security cuts and take them from defence, for example.

  193. JC

    Saying macron is better than other European leaders is like saying which type of cancer is better.

    Yes and that would be a perfectly reasonable comment to make, you doofus. There are about 100 different types of cancers with materially different survival rates and even then, depending on the locality. Pacreatic cancer is generally a heart stopper, but there are times when it isn’t depending on where it is found and if it can be scooped out.

    I have explained to you that he is a pro-UN alarmist. Any argument about economic credentials are swamped by that. His alarmist impact on French energy will be mitigated by the relative stability which French nuclear energy provides but he is advocating renewables and every cent spent on renewables undermines a productive economy.

    Yes, he can be as alarmist as he wants to be and is obviously virtue signaling from a safe harbor seeing around 75% of energy production in France is nuclear based. He’s not perfect!

    Your explanation for having a shot at me is typically misleading. I never said Judith Curry was not a luke-warmer; she is as is Roy Spencer and several other sceptics in as much they accept that human CO2 contributes some warming. The argument is how much. Curry is at the mid range, Spencer less so and people like Bob Carter thought its effect was so tiny as to be immeasurable.

    Pity you didn’t offer this revised explanation in that discussion I referred to above.

    The real reason for your spleen was your inability to understand a greenhouse was not like an atmosphere and hence the greenhouse term used by alarmists was just another misrepresentation by them

    I never suggested one single gas acts like an atmosphere. That’s a complete misrepresentation of what I said.
    I’m no scientist, but I have a decent understanding of the economics on this subject, which is where the focus should be. Read David Friedman’s work on this subject, as he’s excellent. There’s also a good thread where Lambert shows up and I give him an excellent beating of biblical proportions that he richly deserved.

  194. Rockdoctor

    jupes
    #2696152, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Was thinking the same. My grandfather was driving DUKW’s at Morotai and Labuan later on. From what I heard was quite nasty even for Service Corps types.

  195. Boambee John

    After “Known Unto God”, will the crosses on the headstones be targeted? The symbolic Crusader sword on the Cross of Sacrifice in every CWGC cemetry must also be, as they say, “problematic” these days.

  196. Great Rowan Atkinson sketch on this theme.

    One of my favourites.

  197. DrBeauGan

    If the Christians are right and there’s an afterlife, I shall feel rather silly. But according to Rowan Atkinson, so will the Christians.

  198. Leigh Lowe

    Ruxton was a rifleman. Don’t knock his service.

    I withdraw.
    Bruce is acknowledged.

  199. Farmer Gez

    FFS!
    ABC regional radio debating why evil companies won’t give the wukkas wage rises.
    Why won’t the evil buyers give me more for my grain? Same ask really.
    The Marxist mindset just won’t allow the concept of a self correcting free economy setting appropriate wages. It’s a mystery to them.

  200. Leigh Lowe

    If the Christians are right and there’s an afterlife, I shall feel rather silly. But according to Rowan Atkinson, so will the Christians.

    Ah, yes.
    The old joke about St Peter showing a newbie around heaven on day 1 (is there a day 1 in eternity?)
    Eventually they come to a high wall.
    The newbie says “What’s behind there?”
    St Peter : “Ah, that is the section for the [J oos/Catholics/Exclusive Brethren]” …. (adjust to suit the audience)
    The Newbie is immediately suspicious : “Oh? Do they get a better Heaven than us?”
    St Peter : “No, not at all. It’s just that they think they are the only ones here.”

  201. The Beer Whisperer

    In the middle ages, the proles just drank weak low alcohol beer because the water killed them.

    Everything old is new again.

    The only water I drink is beer.

    You can never be too sure.

  202. JC

    One other thing, Cohenite. I really don’t want to sound harsh about this, but there are infrequent occasions when I need to be. You sided with that Dutch cow on that thread. She contended she is an expertologist in Gerbil warming because one time, Judith Curry gave her blog space to write some useless swill titled, “The Sociology of Climate Science”. You didn’t distance yourself from that bilge but actually egged her on. Honestly, that just disgusted me. You demonstrated no ethics and that’s one other reason why you fell from my esteem.

  203. The only water I drink is beer.

    Yes. They pump sewerage into the sea not too far from the desal intake.
    They don’t pump sewerage into the beer vats. Yet.

  204. Boambee John

    The symbolic Crusader sword on the Cross of Sacrifice in every CWGC cemetry must also be, as they say, “problematic” these days.

    On reflection, it might even reach the level of being “troubling”. If it goes beyond that, diplomatic measures might be needed.

  205. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ruxton was a rifleman. Don’t knock his service.

    His wiki doesn’t list his full set of service medals but I’ve found a picture of them here. They’re on display in his local RSL.

  206. Oh come on

    Keating made the most conspicuous effort of any Australian PM to fundamentally alter the culture of this country. From funding the (utterly mediocre) yarts sector up the wazoo in the hope that a ‘distinctive Australian style’ would emerge, to attempting to consecrate the Kokoda Trail (who can forget that weird ground kiss) ahead of ANZAC Cove as the most hallowed turf in Australian history – it was Keating who started the ‘culture wars’, not Howard. I’d say the ‘Aussie pride’ wave that hit in the late 1990s was at least in part a reaction to Keating’s efforts at cultural engineering.

  207. Rae

    If McMaster collapsed is that why the feed also collapsed without notice?

    Seems so. I was watching and Counsel Assisting was in mid-question to McMaster when the stream shut down abruptly at 3.54pm.

  208. cohenite

    You sided with that Dutch cow on that thread.

    Who?

  209. zyconoclast

    Yes. They pump sewerage into the sea not too far from the desal intake.
    They don’t pump sewerage into the beer vats. Yet.

    Have you tried this beer?

    Order of Yoni First [email protected] Beer.
    Donated by glamour models
    Monika
    and
    Paulina

  210. Leigh Lowe

    His wiki doesn’t list his full set of service medals but I’ve found a picture of them here. They’re on displayin his local RSL.

    Without looking particularly at Bruce, this topic has had some airtime here recently.
    The chestful of “campaign” and “service” medals as against awards for valour.

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ruxton was a rifleman. Don’t knock his service.

    Wasn’t it Bruce Ruxton who called Archbishop Desmond Tutu “a witch doctor?”

  212. zyconoclast

    Child-led learning has dragged Australia down

    In relation to classroom practice, our curriculum also fails to embody best practice. Research carried out by the OECD concludes that the prevailing orthodoxy in Australian schools in based on constructivism.
    Constructivism is defined as a situation where “the classroom is no longer a place where the teacher (‘expert’) pours knowledge into passive students, who wait like empty vessels to be filled. In the constructivist model the students are urged to be actively involved in their own process of learning.”
    As a result of turning teachers into “facilitators” and “guides by the side”, and treating students as “knowledge navigators” and “digital natives”, it’s not surprising that standards are falling.
    Constructivism and adopting an inquiry-based approach centred on the world of the child ignores the reality that explicit, teacher-directed learning based on essential knowledge, understanding and skills is critical if schools are to be effective.
    As concluded by the UK report The Secret of Successful Schools,the philosophy of teacher-directed learning is one of no excuses, where expectations are high, there is strong discipline and a traditional curriculum based on “teacher-led, whole class teaching”.

  213. Rae

    On desal.
    I does kill off parts of the sea bed.
    The water released is very dense with salt & minerals and tends to stay in a “slug” until turbidity breaks it up.

    No. And No.

    I thought the solution was they would barge it out and spread it over a short time. Wasn’t that resolved?

    From the Sydney Desalination Plant website:

    Seawater concentrate
    The remaining seawater concentrate is about twice as salty and about one degree warmer than the ocean. It is returned through a large pipe that lies beneath the seabed. The seawater is dispersed using specially designed diffusers which return the seawater concentrate to normal salinity and temperature within 50-75 metres from the outlet point.

  214. Oh come on

    Went to the cinema with the kids a few days ago. Saw a poster up advertising an Andre Rieu concert, on show for two nights only, the 28th and 29th of April! You’d think a movie cinema would be an inappropriate venue for such a concert, but no – they’re showing a movie of a concert he played somewhere in Europe. Seriously, folks. You can watch it on Youtube.

    Of course the poster had him posing and looking like a self-satisfied twit, which I guess would be fair enough. He sure knows how to make money.

  215. zyconoclast

    The head of Spain’s Madrid region has stepped down amid shoplifting allegations, weeks after being accused of faking a master’s degree.

    Cristina Cifuentes condemned as a personal attack the publication of a video from 2011 showing her handing items to a supermarket security guard.

    It is claimed she had taken two pots of anti-ageing cream worth €40 (£35; $50).

    Ms Cifuentes, 53, gave up her master’s last week when it emerged that two signatures on the document were forged.

    A prominent figure in Spain’s ruling centre-right PP (Partido Popular), Ms Cifuentes had already come under pressure from political opponents to resign because of the degree affair.

  216. Nick

    Fark:

    In Sam Powell-Pepper’s case a woman anonymously made claims, did not press charges with police – which we were happy for her to do – and we have vision of the entire night and the head of the integrity unit refused to see it.

    Whatever happened to procedural fairness?

    He also said the incident was a massive lesson for Powell-Pepper.
    “Sam put himself in a position where bad things can happen and he needs to learn from that,” Thomas said.

    The ‘position’ he put himself in was attending a nightclub.

  217. Rae

    “I do not recall” has been superseded by “I can’t say with any certainty”

    I haven’t seen or heard either of those evasions used so far. Mostly dissembling defensive words for which the Judge chastises the witness.

  218. H B Bear

    What Google doesn’t tell you is that most of the desal concentrate is pumped straight out onto the grey nurse sharks. And they are pissed.

  219. thefrolickingmole

    JC
    #2696154, posted on April 26, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    On desal.

    I thought the solution was they would barge it out and spread it over a short time. Wasn’t that resolved?

    There are various methods, but barging would be horribly inefficient, but it would work.
    We use seepage ponds/evaporation but gypsum lining the ponds is a problem.

    Not being and engineer my solution would be “shandying” it with seawater and venturi some air in as well to mix the crap out of it before dumping it in a place with lots and lots of waves on a shoerline.

    Its only a problem when its left to form a “slug” which flows along the sea floor and kills plants .

  220. Leigh Lowe

    zyconoclast

    #2696228, posted on April 26, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    Corruption in PNG?
    Get outta here!

  221. Mark from Melbourne

    Reading a piece on Reason (h/t insty) about how Chicago local government are basically a bunch of crooks who are gouging people by impounding their cars and then making it damn near impossible to get them out (long, not particularly recommended), I came across this.

    Because civil forfeiture operates under the legal fiction that it’s an action against the property, not its owner, Byrd’s case appeared on the docket as The People of the State of Illinois v. 1996 Cadillac Sedan.

    This quirk of American law has resulted in other notable cases such as United States v. Article Consisting of 50,000 Cardboard Boxes More or Less, Each Containing One Pair of Clacker Balls, United States v. Forty Barrels and Twenty Kegs of Coca-Cola, and United States v. Approximately 64,695 Pounds of Shark Fins.

    Its a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

  222. Delta A

    On desal.
    I does kill off parts of the sea bed.

    Admittedly it’s a smallish, experimental site that services one area on KI, but the local fisherman declare that the best catches are around the location where the desal plant discharges into the sea.

  223. Wasn’t it Bruce Ruxton who called Archbishop Desmond Tutu “a witch doctor?”

    Ruxton was correct.

  224. Oh come on

    Rob Sitch onThe Late Show did a hilarious pisstake of Desmond Tutu. Actually I think it constitutes blackface comedy! Surprised someone hasn’t tagged it on Youtube.

  225. JC

    Johanna, Cohenite. FFS, you have the memory capacity of someone with late stage Alzheimer’s

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wasn’t it Bruce Ruxton who called Archbishop Desmond Tutu “a witch doctor?”

    Ruxton was correct.

    In the days of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Archbishop Tutu was alleged to have told one hardliner Afrikaner politician, P.W. Botha , (a.k.a. “die groot krokodile”) that “you should go on your knees and beg forgiveness from this commission.”

    Botha replied “A true Afrikaner kneels only before his God, and, much as you may see yourself in that role, I don’t.”

  227. Leigh Lowe

    Because civil forfeiture operates under the legal fiction that it’s an action against the property, not its owner, Byrd’s case appeared on the docket as The People of the State of Illinois v. 1996 Cadillac Sedan.

    All sounds very silly until you arrive home late at night and find some xunt has parked their shitbox in your private space … and it is still there three days later.
    They ignored notices until the building manager slapped some very official looking “Sherriff type notices” all over it.
    If it gets towed and it costs them 2 grand to liberate it I couldn’t give a shit.

  228. thefrolickingmole

    The void wants to display its fucktardery and general lack of knowledge against a person who works with this sort of crap.
    I can take about a 5 minute walk from my office and look at the section of bare sand our company is committed to monitoring after (in the early days) the original disposal of bitterns resulted in exactly what you claim doesnt happen.

    The void should read on and reflect just how it was its life choices disappointing mummy so much.

    The brine generated as a wastewater during desalination is heavier than seawater, so if incorrectly discharged to the ocean would sink to the bottom. In addition, the brine is devoid of dissolved oxygen as a result of the desalination process.

    If it is released into calm water it can sink to the bottom as a plume of salty water that can kill organisms on the sea bed from a lack of oxygen.

    It’s important to model the release of water to enable the design of appropriate brine mixing and dispersion, so avoiding plume build-up on the sea bed.

    The salt, especially because of the lack of oxygen in the plume, must be well mixed and released, preferably by a high energy coastline.

    and another.

    Density
    Because the concentrated brine is heavier than normal sea water, it puddles on the
    sea bed where it can accumulate and persist over time.18 The brine forms a stable
    layer on the sea floor and does not mix much with the surrounding sea water.
    The sea bed lacks the churning and mixing energy that wind and waves provide
    on the sea surface. The physical process, called stratification, keeps the brine isolated
    even in a thin layer.19
    Hypoxia
    The brine plume on the sea floor develops hypoxia, which is a condition of reduced
    oxygen. It results principally from the reduced dissolved oxygen (DO) resupply
    caused by the stratification in combination with the demand for DO by the
    organisms in the layer and in the sediment on the floor. The relationship between
    the DO demands and a thinness of the layer allows hypoxia to develop very rapidly, and be maintained over a long time despite the continual influx of new water
    in the plume.

    /Void claims thats not what it really meant in 5.4.3….

    Go and strap your clown shoes on, honk your big red nose and cavort your stupidity across the blog again.

    Such low, low energy trolls.
    So sad
    Weak.

  229. feelthebern

    This just in.
    Trump to proclaim a medal:
    Dragon Energy.

    Will supersede the Medal of Honour.

  230. Fat Tony

    Boambee John
    #2696112, posted on April 26, 2018 at 3:59 pm
    Top Ender

    Have you read Terror and Consent by Philip Bobbitt?

    With a title like that, are you sure it’s not that Bobbitt?

  231. JC

    Went to the cinema with the kids a few days ago. Saw a poster up advertising an Andre Rieu concert, on show for two nights only, the 28th and 29th of April!

    Hair monster is most definitely someone I would stick on the terror list and refuse entry.

    Of course the poster had him posing and looking like a self-satisfied twit, which I guess would be fair enough. He sure knows how to make money.

    His mannerisms and composure send me nuts when I (unfortunately) see a pic of the twerp. Angers me.

    I had an argument with the Friesian cow a long while ago about this issue. She of course reckons he earns zillions. Obviously, she’s banging him up because he’s Dutch and she’s very Dutch centric.

    I explained to the dolt that he wouldn’t make zillions as the expense of the orchestra, the sets etc. would lower operating earnings compared to say a regular 4 piece band. It costs a great deal of money moving around an large piece orchestra around the world, putting them up, paying them, feeding them, buying health insurance and all that crap. Then there’s the sets the idiot puts up.

    Celebrity net worth has him pegged at around $40 million net worth, which is a lot of money but not oodles and generally comports to where I think he’s at. The tax Electrolux poo pooed this idea and reckons it was much, much more. But he’s not.

    In a just world, he ought to be owing the US$40 million to the thousands of people he doesn’t really entertain.

  232. feelthebern

    Re: Kaepernick.
    There is no problem with owners not employing him.
    There is a problem if the owners colluded to keep him out of the league.
    It it illegal to collude to preclude someone from working.
    But I doubt the owners would be dumb enough to leave a paper trail.
    If they did, they could run foul of the RICO statutes.

  233. Tel

    Johanna, Cohenite. FFS, you have the memory capacity of someone with late stage Alzheimer’s

    Do you mean this one?

    https://judithcurry.com/2013/08/11/climate-science-sociology/

    Is that are Johanna?

    It’s not a terrible article, I don’t know what in particular you would find so upsetting. It does have rather, errr, a of of words, but that’s fixable.

    Wait, I only just realized that JC stands for Judith Curry. Obvious after the fact… like everything I suppose.

  234. thefrolickingmole

    Delta A

    Theres a fair bit in it, volumes matter a lot, a small plant with good tides & water movement probably isnt too bad, when you get huge ones operating for a length of time damage can be extreme. Not neccessarily over a large area unless ocean conditions arent enough to break it up.
    Its heavier than normal seawater , contains more salt/minerals and is generally anaerobic, so suffocating.

  235. Infidel Tiger

    I have switched from Tiger Blood to Dragon Energy.

    Make the change.

  236. Leigh Lowe

    Can’t we put the spare salt on our chips?
    Seems obvious.

  237. thefrolickingmole

    I wonder how mutti Merkel feels about this info?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/26/isis-trying-to-foment-a-wave-of-migration-to-europe-says-un-official

    Islamic State commanders fleeing Syria are conspiring with extremist groups in Africa to foment and infiltrate a new migration wave destined for Europe, the head of the UN World Food Programme has said.

    David Beasley, a former Republican governor of South Carolina, said Europe needed to wake up to the extremists’ strategy in the Sahel region.

    Those forced out of Syria were uniting with local terrorist groups to use a as both a recruitment tool and a vehicle to push millions of Africans towards Europe, he said.

    Speaking to the Guardian during a visit to Brussels for a two-day Syria summit, Beasley said: “You are going to face a similar pattern of what took place years ago, except you are going to have more Isis and extremist groups infiltrating migration.

    “What we are picking up is that they are partnering with the extremist groups like Boko Haram and al-Qaida to divvy up territory and resources and to continue to infiltrate and destabilise in the hope of creating migration into Europe where they can infiltrate and cause chaos.

    “My comment to the Europeans is that if you think you had a problem resulting from a nation of 20 million people like Syria because of destabilisation and conflict resulting in migration, wait until the greater Sahel region of 500 million people is further destabilised. And this is where the European community and international community has got to wake up.”


    “The international community, the Europeans especially, learned a lesson in the early part of the Syria war that if you don’t supply food security you are going to have unintended consequences. I have talked to people, not just in Syria – women who will say: ‘My husband did not want to join Isis but we had no food, we had no choice.’ They have a strategy.”

    But, but we were assured no terrorists would ever stoop to impersonating a refugee.

    The usual shit, their strategy is to make life so crap everyone has to join one “side” or another, and since many governments wont put you in a cage and burn you to death live on TV the shitbags have an edge in recruitment.

  238. BrettW

    Jo and Cohenite. Don’t forget JC has previously admitted he saves peoples posts for future use against them. He is apparently quite devoted to the task as it helps make him a better troll/head prefect/better person than the rest of us.

  239. Mark from Melbourne

    If it gets towed and it costs them 2 grand to liberate it I couldn’t give a shit.

    Nor could I, LL. The story is actually not about that kind of impoundment, and what Chicago does is really legalised theft. They even get to ignore court orders. Quite astounding.

    But love those court cases…

  240. feelthebern

    Imagine the coverage if Trump did this.

    https://theintercept.com/2018/04/25/hillary-clinton-email-dnc-democratic-party/

    Hillary gets a msm pass.
    Again.

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