Open Forum: May 12, 2018

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  1. OneWorldGovernment

    You have to laugh.

    American Muslims Accused of Islamophobia
    30% of Muslims believe that Muslims are “more prone to negative behavior.”
    May 11, 2018 Daniel Greenfield

    Muslims have a serious Islamophobia problem.

    That’s the claim being made by the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding which found that 30% of Muslims believe that Muslims are “more prone to negative behavior.”

    That’s far higher than J**s at 13%, Catholics at 12% and Protestants at 11%.

    ……………..

    Islamophobia is a manufactured term that suppresses criticism of Islam by non-Muslims and Muslims.

    If Muslims have an Islamophobia problem, it’s a very good problem to have. Societies don’t grow by killing their critics with machetes (Bangladesh), stabbing them (Iran) or hanging them (Pakistan).

    They grow by learning from them.

    When 30% of Muslims are willing to admit that their culture has a problem, that’s healthy. And when the Muslim Brotherhood and the left silences them by calling them Islamophobes, that’s the phobia.

    Not a phobia of Islam. But a phobia of criticism, of change and of truth.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/270142/american-muslims-accused-islamophobia-daniel-greenfield

  2. Tintarella di Luna

    Ramirez so far, thank you Tom

  3. Tom

    A Ben Garrison classic on the neverending moozley attacks in France.

  4. Tom

    I ended my Paywallian subscription, so I can no longer post Johannes Leak ‘toons on Mondays, unless they’re in the paper’s featured images section.

  5. OneWorldGovernment

    A classic from Ace of Spades

    Saturday Night Joke

    A Marine squad was marching north of Fallujah when they came upon an Iraqi terrorist who was badly injured and unconscious. On the opposite side of the road was an American Marine in a similar but less serious state. The Marine was conscious and alert and as first aid was given to both men, the Squad Leader asked the injured Marine what had happened.

    The Marine reported, “I was heavily armed and moving north along the highway here, and coming south was a heavily armed insurgent. We saw each other and both took cover in the ditches along the road. I yelled to him that Saddam Hussein was a miserable, lowlife scum bag who got what he deserved.”

    He yelled back, “Barack Obama is a lying, good-for-nothing, left wing Commie who isn’t even an American.

    So I said, “Osama Bin Laden dresses and acts like a frigid, mean-spirited lesbian!

    He retaliated by yelling, “Oh yeah? Well, so does Nancy Pelosi!”

    And, there we were, in the middle of the road, shaking hands, when a truck hit us.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/375188.php#375188

  6. Gab

    Sarah Sanders Slams Hillary Clinton, Obama and John Kerry on Iran Deal Statements – May 9, 2018

  7. Baldrick

    Leftard hypocrisy #3453

    Planned Parenthood ✔ @PPFA
    Happy #MothersDay 🌼
    Planned Parenthood is proud to celebrate mothers in the U.S. and around the world. We’re committed to fighting for a world where all mothers can live healthy lives, and raise their children in peace.

    From the people who are actually in the business of killing motherhood.

  8. DrBeauGan

    From the people who are actually in the business of killing motherhood.

    I’m not sure they see it that way Baldrick. They just think motherhood should be safe, legal and rare.

  9. Top Ender

    China tests first carrier

    CHINA’S first domestically manufactured aircraft carrier started sea trials yesterday, a landmark in Beijing’s plans to modernise its navy as the Asian giant presses its claims in disputed regional waters.

    The carrier, known only as “Type 001A”, set out for the trials from a port in northeastern China.

    It is the first time the carrier’s engine, propulsion and navigation systems will be tested at sea.

    Expected to be commissioned by 2020, the ship will give China a second aircraft carrier.

    And quite a few countries will watch with interest.

  10. Baldrick

    I’m not sure they see it that way Baldrick. They just think motherhood should be safe, legal and rare.

    Motherhood starts at conception, not just at birth.

  11. Herodotus

    Kerry O’Brien has emerged from his Byron Bay retirement to sound the alarm.
    “It’s a war on the ABC!”
    Stephen Brook gives Red Kerry a very soft and indulgent article in the Oz, replete with inside-the-bubble quotes about how noble the public broadcaster is, how respected and truthful and essential to the proper functioning of our democracy, etcetera, etcetera. There’s even some retelling of the career path of the young Kerry.
    Readers are shredding it in comments.

  12. Some History

    Life
    without
    coffee….

    Depresso

  13. Some History

    People Got To Be Free (1968) – The Rascals

  14. Snoopy

    An opinion piece on TheirABC.

    It also fails to engage with notions of unfreedom inherent in capitalism

    In contrast to the notions of freedom inherent in socialism?

    Yes it’s opinion, but we know the only opinions the ABC tolerates are ones it agrees with.

  15. Entropy

    Unfreedom.

    Orwell would be pleased.

  16. Rae

    Killybegs is the main marine service and heli port for rigs drilling offshore west of Ireland.

    Just saying.

    Well spotted.

  17. lotocoti

    China tests first carrier

    Lex on the diminishing returns from ski jumps.

    Say the first launch of the day is scheduled for 1200. The six CAP aircraft and their tanker are fully airborne by 1210 and tanking complete at around 1225. They get to station at around 1300 or so, CAP for 30 minutes until 1330 when they are relieved on station by the second launch. The first wave of Flankers is back overhead Kuznetsov at 1355 or so and the recovery takes 10 minutes – 1405, or right around a 2.1 mission time.
    In order to relieve them on station – otherwise they’d leave a gap in the airborne defense grid – the second sortie has the same launch, rendezvous, tank and transit constraints as did the first: 10 minutes to get airborne, 15 minutes getting gas and another 35 minutes getting to CAP – 60 minutes. That means they started launching from Kuznetsov to relieve the first sortie at 1230. The first wave’s tanker was mission complete with his package at 1225, and has to land after the second launch – he can’t get back on deck in time without disrupting the 1230 go. That means that the second launch of six has to have its own dedicated mission tanker, leaving no gas overhead for the first recovery if things go south. We’ve now accounted for 14 of the 15 possible Flankers in the air wing.

  18. Entropy

    The other irony of course is that capitalism doesn’t have any “notions “at all. It’s just selling stuff someone has made to someone else who wants to buy it.

    What this ignorameous is really complaining about is crony corporatism, where Big Business uses its close relationships with Big Union and enabled by Big Government to screw everyone else.

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Via Lucianne, a great little article:

    It’s not a debate…it’s warfare

  20. struth

    Exactly Entropy.
    Big business corrupting a government can only happen if the government is corruptable.
    Big business only tries to corrupt that which regulates it as indeed small business would if it could and sometimes does.

    This is not capitalism.
    It has nothing to do with it.
    It is done in response to government trying to control the means of production.
    It is done, therefore, in response to the effect of a socialist government.

    And then the socialists claim it as a problem caused by free trade, or capitalism.

  21. Senile Old Guy

    Yes, the piece at their ABC, titled:

    “Universal basic income should be seen as a rightful share of society’s wealth.”

    Everything belongs to this mythical “society”. It’s communism, pure and simple, and we know how well that works.

    “Instead, we need to understand UBI as a radical redistributive mechanism — one that works to redistribute wealth so all can enjoy economic security as a basic human right.”

    I wonder how some of the ABC “stars” would go with some redistribution of their salaries?

    The author is:

    Dr Klein’s research interests include the psychologisation of development interventions, women’s agency, neoliberal subjectivities, economic rights and Indigenous development. Dr Klein has taught various development studies subjects at the University of Oxford including gender studies, development theory, human development and development policy. She also held a Post-Doctoral Fellowship at the Centre for Aboriginal Policy Research at the Australian National University examining conditionality in Indigenous policy.

  22. Geriatric Mayfly

    The author is:
    Dr Klein’s

    Full of the usual bullshit-babble words which so impress fellow academic poseurs.

  23. DrBeauGan

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2710222, posted on May 14, 2018 at 8:36 am
    Via Lucianne, a great little article:

    It’s not a debate…it’s warfare

    I agree with the title, BoN, but not the article. TDS isn’t about the pursuit of power for its own sake; most sufferers don’t have any power. It’s a religion, or maybe a faith. TDS is an affirmation that gives meaning and purpose to their lives. They are battling against evil.

    Leftism has all the hallmarks of religion except a god, and Gaia satisfies that need for many. Most religions in their early phase are evangelical, the true believers have to impose their beliefs on everyone else.

    That’s where we are at present. Christianity is moribund and leftism is moving into the faith vacuum. The present pope shows how well it is succeeding.

  24. John Constantine

    Not only do Trump-deniers feel they are battling evil, they feel they are persecuted minorities for fighting evil and they feel they know important things others don’t know in knowing that evil.

    Trump forcing them to Lock themselves in their toilets with their children and howl in terror and denial and grief that Trump was elected proves their is evil in the world, according to their framed narrative, reinforced by their abc and media that locking yourself in the toilet for an emotional breakdown is what the right sort of people did.

    Comrades.

  25. H B Bear

    Lord Waffleworth’s Budget poll bounce as expected. Lieborals continue their sleepwalk towards the cliff.

  26. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    It’s not a debate…it’s warfare

    leftism is not a ballot box issue, never was, never will be

  27. Tel

    Not only do Trump-deniers feel they are battling evil, they feel they are persecuted minorities for fighting evil and they feel they know important things others don’t know in knowing that evil.

    You have to ask what additional observation from outside could cause them to come to a different understanding? If there isn’t anything then their knowledge of good and evil is an act of faith, similar to the gnostic religions.

    That was kind of the entire point of empiricism, to design a system that provides systematic connection between observation and belief.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    most sufferers don’t have any power

    Aside from nearly all the media, nearly all of academia, much of the elites in business, almost all of public sector employees, most politicians and the entire union movement…yes!

    The academia one is worth a mention. We had Cats link a study last week of academic bias to the effect that 39% of faculties in the US have no Republican academics at all. Daniel Greenfield has a post today with the bar chart from the actual paper:

    Guess Which Fields Have No Republican Faculty at Colleges?

    Here is the bar chart. What it gives is the ratio of registered Democrats to registered Republicans.

    Wow!

    The very best field is engineering, and even it has a 62:38 ratio of lefties. No wonder bridges fall down these days.

    And in my field of chemistry, which is second best, the ratio is 84 lefties for every 16 righties.

    And geoscience, which you’d think would be eminently sensible…is almost 97% lefty.

    We are so screwed.

  29. Boambee John

    Via Instapundit

    This week, one of the Russian companies accused by Special Counsel Robert Mueller of funding a conspiracy to meddle in the 2016 U.S. presidential election was revealed in court to not have existed during the time period alleged by Mueller’s team of prosecutors, according to a lawyer representing the defendant.

    It is becoming easy to see how the anthrax stuff up occurred.

    Top investigator, that Mueller bloke!

  30. stackja

    Anniversary of Centaur sinking in WWII

    Monday marks the 75th anniversary of the sinking of the Australian hospital ship, Centaur, off Queensland during World War II.

    AHS Centaur was en route from Sydney to Port Moresby when it was torpedoed by a Japanese submarine, some 80km east-northeast of Brisbane, about 4am on May 14, 1943.

    Of the 332 persons on board, only 64 survived and spent 35 hours in the water before being rescued and taken aboard the destroyer USS Mugford.

    The Centaur’s final resting place remained a mystery until January 2010, when UK-based shipwreck hunter David Mearns successfully identified the wreck.

    A 200ha protection zone has been declared around the site to stop future souvenir hunters.

    The Last Post will be sounded at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra to mark the anniversary.

    Australian Associated Press

  31. DrBeauGan

    Face it, most men and almost all women are natural slaves. They crave an authority figure to tell them what to do, think and feel. God is the ultimate authority figure, creating the universe and everything in it.

    There’s not much future in a religion offering another mythical figure to fight the last God. But once us atheists have pointed out He’s a myth, the lefties can replace Him with the state. Which at least exists.

    It was a bad mistake.

  32. Delta A

    It’s taken a mere 50 years. From The $Oz:

    Honours at last for forgotten heroes

    For decades, they have been some of the most forgotten heroes of Australia’s Vietnam War — but at last the federal government has seen fit to recognise the valour of the Diggers in what was Australia’s largest and most costly battle in the conflict.

    On the 50th anniversary of the action, known as the battles for Firebase Coral and Balmoral, the government has awarded a decoration for gallantry to the men who took part.

    They “displayed collective gallantry which is worthy of the Unit Citation for Gallantry,” Defence Personnel Minister Darren Chester said yesterday in announcing the award in Canberra.

    BTW, the medals are all going to men. What about the equalidy!!!

  33. DrBeauGan

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2710236, posted on May 14, 2018 at 9:42 am
    most sufferers don’t have any power

    Aside from nearly all the media, nearly all of academia, much of the elites in business, almost all of public sector employees, most politicians and the entire union movement…yes!

    The academia one is worth a mention. We had Cats link a study last week of academic bias to the effect that 39% of faculties in the US have no Republican academics at all. Daniel Greenfield has a post today with the bar chart from the actual paper:

    Guess Which Fields Have No Republican Faculty at Colleges?

    Here is the bar chart. What it gives is the ratio of registered Democrats to registered Republicans.

    Wow!

    The very best field is engineering, and even it has a 62:38 ratio of lefties. No wonder bridges fall down these days.

    And in my field of chemistry, which is second best, the ratio is 84 lefties for every 16 righties.

    And geoscience, which you’d think would be eminently sensible…is almost 97% lefty.

    We are so screwed.

    They have the numbers in the institutions, BoN, which isn’t quite the same thing. Their screams from the toilets aren’t the sign of power.

  34. Zyconoclast

    Court document sheds new light on alleged money laundering case involving former South Sudanese military general

    So how did then 22-year-old Ngouth Oth Mai manage to buy a $1.5 million property in Melbourne upfront in 2014 when he had only ever earned welfare payments and lived in housing commission?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-14/court-document-shed-new-light-on-alleged-money-laundering-case/9738920

  35. stackja

    TV rivals faced with awkward royal showdown
    Kristofer Crane, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    AUSTRALIA’S biggest media stars have converged on London for the royal wedding, but awkwardly they’re in closer proximity than ever before.

    The Qantas flight from Sydney to London on Friday was jammed backed with celebs. Sam Armytage, Natalie Barr, Mark Beretta, Edwina Bartholomew, Karl Stefanovic and Nova’s Fitzy and Wippa were all on the same plane.

    After waving goodbye at Heathrow, the rival TV personalities were shocked when they realised they were staying in the same hotel in St Pancras.

    Gardener was seen awkwardly greeting the Sunrise hosts after realising they’d be sharing the same roof for the next week and a half.

  36. geoscience, which you’d think would be eminently sensible…

    It’s morphed into another branch of Nature Studies these days.. Greenies.

  37. C.L.

    How to get ahead for modern women:

    Salma Hayek calls for male stars to take pay cuts for equality.

    Mexican-American actress Salma Hayek, a vocal campaigner against sexual harassment in the movie industry, says male stars should get less pay as a way to even things up with chronically underpaid women…

    “The actors have to say: ‘OK, time’s up. I had a good run but now it’s also time to be generous with the actresses in the films.’

    “If actors ask such inflated fees it will leave nothing for actresses. If the movie’s budget is $10 million, the [male] actor has to understand that if he is making $9.7m, it is going to be hard for equality,” Hayek added.

    “Otherwise they will kill the movie.

    “We all have to be part of the adjustment. That’s one idea. I’m going to be hated for it. I hope I can get a job after this!”

    Why stop there, Salma.
    How about the actors take a 75 percent pay cut and the crew get paid extra?

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Gardener was seen awkwardly greeting the Sunrise hosts after realising they’d be sharing the same roof for the next week and a half.

    Sharing the same London hotel?
    Oh, the humanity!!

  39. DrBeauGan

    Salma Hayek calls for male stars to take pay cuts for equality

    Fair enough. I’d pay more to watch Salma Hayek than any number of blokes.

  40. egg_

    Just got one of those bizarre calls in Chinese on my mob that Stimpy described.
    Sounded like a recording – the target demographic are Chinese?
    Political/economic purpose?

  41. stackja

    Behind the Mercedes Benz Sydney Fashion Week 2018 swimwear parade
    Elle Halliwell, The Daily Telegraph
    4 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    A whole trestle table has been dedicated to nipple covers and fashion tape, to avoid any major fashion fails mid-show.

  42. lotocoti

    Sharing the same London hotel?

    Stick them all in a Tower Hamlets B&B so they can experience cultural diversity in all its stabby glory.

  43. Roger.

    Political/economic purpose?

    The latest brief from the Embassy?

  44. C.L.

    Trump live:

    Donald J. [email protected]
    16m16 minutes ago

    So sad to see the Terror Attack in Paris. At some point countries will have to open their eyes & see what is really going on. This kind of sickness & hatred is not compatible with a loving, peaceful, & successful country! Changes to our thought process on terror must be made.

  45. egg_

    Kerry O’Brien has emerged from his Byron Bay retirement to sound the alarm.
    “It’s a war on the ABC!”

    Not those Quadrant terrorists again?
    The Great Tea Trolley Disaster of 1967 won’t be forgotten quickly.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Killybegs is the main marine service and heli port for rigs drilling offshore west of Ireland.

    Just saying.

    Of course it is. It is also a centre for some major industrial-strength fishing operations, where the days of the small trawlers have long gone. We had lunch there on our last trip to Ireland.

    You may have guessed that late nite with a few whiskeys in his sails, Hairy is an incorrigible romantic.

  47. Roger.

    A review of Roger Scruton’s ‘Where Are We: The State of Britain Now’

    Incidentally, Britain’s greatest conservative thinker grew up in a working class family.

  48. Roger.

    “It’s a war on the ABC!”

    The ABC was long ago taken over by a 5th Column which declared war on mainstream Australia. The real concern is that a defensive response has been so slow in forthcoming and so meagre in its impact.

  49. H B Bear

    Kerry O’Brien has emerged from his Byron Bay retirement to sound the alarm.
    “It’s a war on the ABC!”

    That would be the Socialist workers enclave of Byron Bay presumably?

    No surprise to see Quentin Dumpster pipe up from his rural Tasmanian idyll at the latest existential threat to the staff co-op. No doubt if he hadn’t been forced out with a six figure payout in his 70s, Quentin could imagine himself being cut to the bone in this capitalist orgy of brutality.

  50. Geriatric Mayfly

    The ABC was long ago taken over by a 5th Column which declared war on mainstream Australia.

    And in the vanguard Red Kez himself.

  51. Stimpson J. Cat

    Just got one of those bizarre calls in Chinese on my mob that Stimpy described.

    Don’t f$cking delete it Egg!
    Get it translated by some Chung Chong takeaway delivery kid.
    It is factual proof that it actually happens and was not one of my hallucinations!
    Also I want to know what the f$ck all that jibber jabber means.

  52. Eyrie

    “Just got one of those bizarre calls in Chinese on my mob that Stimpy described.
    Sounded like a recording – the target demographic are Chinese?
    Political/economic purpose?”

    Coded instructions to agents. Send to heaps of people who find it meaningless and metadata analysis doesn’t help you.

  53. H B Bear

    Yep Red Kezza was always a spiritual leader of the staff co-op. Handed the baton to Mark Colvin until he dropped off the twig. Luckily Jon Paine is there to fill in the breach.

    The workers united will never be defeated.

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    we have had a police guard for the past two weeks.

    Stay safe, Calli.

    Sorry to hear how gullible your travelling companions are regarding the Palestinian situation. A gentle word to them here and there might suggest another point of view without destroying tenuous friendships and if anyone is capable of such words done without rancour to them it would be you. The King’s Car Museum sounds like a good place for rumination on the tremendous inequalities of wealth in a very poor country which can only be fixed by economic development, but would doubtless with the mob you describe bring calls for socialism. Difficult.

  55. zyconoclast

    Possibly NSFW

    Snakedance performed by Salma Hayek From Dusk Till Dawn

  56. That was kind of the entire point of empiricism, to design a system that provides systematic connection between observation and belief.

    And when systemic problems with empiricism were pointed out to empiricists they blinked a few times and then continued on regardless.

  57. egg_

    Took the call and hung up, from no. 0425 15605x.

  58. Roger.

    If there isn’t anything then their knowledge of good and evil is an act of faith, similar to the gnostic religions.

    “…ye shall be like gods, knowing good and evil”, where knowing = vainly determining what is good and evil apart from God’s law/word and revelation.

  59. cohenite

    Salma Hayek calls for male stars to take pay cuts for equality

    Fair enough. I’d pay more to watch Salma Hayek than any number of blokes.

    Watch her do what?

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2710279, posted on May 14, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Noted Humanitarian Charged With Child Rape in Nepal, Stunning a Village

    Tip of the Iceberg.

    He was awarded the Order of Canada in 2016.
    Namaste dude.

  61. Dr Faustus

    Lord Waffleworth’s Budget poll bounce as expected.

    In NewsPoll, not so much in Fairfax/Ipsos.

    Nevertheless, Shorten’s ring piece will be twitching like a rabbit’s nose. The polls show that he remains as popular with the punters as an unexpected wet sneeze in a crowded lift.

    He is presumably safe until the by-elections: but if Labor loses a seat to the Coalition – say, low wattage Justine Keay or Susan Lamb – the ALP machine persons will have to decide whether to stick with Mr Congeniality, or start to manoeuvre Plibersek into position for the job.

    Assuming the by-elections are held at the end of June, there will be a full month of fear and loathing, positioning and plotting before the ALP National Conference in late July. Last chance saloon.

    A rolled gold opportunity – and all Waffleworth’s to screw up.

  62. billspacey

    The most beautiful woman in the world
    https://bit.ly/2IZynSI

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