Open Forum: May 12, 2018

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  1. feelthebern

    Christopher Hitchens panel discussion from 2002.
    Shows what an intellectual giant he was.
    Newt Gingrich on the other hand…

  2. nemkat

    I think the term “mental illness” was shyed away from then, too socially ostracising. Much better these days, much more resources and understanding. Way better.

    That’s not right at all.
    There were plenty of Mental Hospitals in Qld, Wolston Park was built in 1917.
    Electro Convulsive Therapy pluss Major Tranquillizers was the treatment for diagnosed Schizophrenia for many years, and afai, that’s still the case.

  3. stackja

    US political figure addresses rise of China and danger of Russia to democracy
    Fiona Wingett, The Daily Telegraph
    May 11, 2018 11:55pm
    Subscriber only
    HILLARY Clinton has spoken warmly of the relationship between Australia and the US, highlighting the “shared struggles and shared history” of the two nations.

    Fans paid up to $495 a ticket for last night’s sold out Evening With Hillary Rodham Clinton at the International Convention Centre in Darling Harbour.

    Introduced by the ABC’s Leigh Sales, Ms Clinton addressed issues including Russian influence in disrupting democracy and the dangers posed by Putin — as well as the impact of Russia on the US election in 2016, the rise of China and the importance of Asia to the world’s future.

    “I believe our world is at a crossroads. What we do next matters enormously. Our future is written in Asia and we all will be better off if the US is an open, engaged participant,” she said, referring obliquely to President Donald Trump’s approach to foreign policy.

    Ms Clinton used the opportunity to decry President Trump, although she didn’t mention him by name.

    “There is no such thing as an alternative fact,” she said, as she went on to discuss how misinformation weakened democracy. “It affects all of us,” she said.

    She was questioned by moderator Julia Gillard about the “mad man in a mad world” theory, in which the former PM referred to President Trump’s approach to North Korea — which appears to be paying off.

    “Sometimes being unpredictable can have the desired effect but sometimes it can fall flat and you lose all credibility,” Ms Clinton said.

    “So it is a tactic, not a strategy, and to be used very carefully,” she warned. She said the world would have to wait to see if Kim Jong-un kept his word.

    Ms Clinton’s appearance came after her warning a day earlier about the level of Chinese influence here and across the region, and the urgent needed to address the issue.

    “What we’re seeing now is a desire by China to extend its influence,” Ms Clinton told her Melbourne audience.

    “I would hope that Australia would stand up against efforts under the radar, as we say, to influence Australian politics and policy.”

    Ms Clinton has appeared to be wearing a back brace in recent days, and her shoulders were covered by large scarfs in both Sydney and Melbourne appearances.

    It is believed Ms Clinton will travel to Adelaide this weekend to spend time with friends before flying out.

  4. Old Ozzie;

    If you think charging customers for ­services that are not rendered or not required are ­activities confined to the big banks and AMP, think again

    I had a sickness & death cover with my super fund. When I got crook and couldn’t work, I applied for the sickness component.
    They refused payment on the grounds that ‘I wasn’t covered.’
    I hope the bastards cop shit over it – we nearly lost everything over that.

  5. DrBeauGan

    Top Ender
    #2709063, posted on May 12, 2018 at 8:48 am
    It’s the caption that won the prize in this Archibald section winner:

    Kaylene Whiskey
    Title
    Kaylene TV
    Medium
    acrylic on linen
    Dimensions
    76 x 101 cm
    Further information
    This is my painting about two strong kungkas (women). Cher is singing a song on the microphone; she is having a great time because her boots have silver spurs and are really tall above her knees. Dolly Parton is wearing the pink overalls with pockets. Dolly has been skateboarding at the shops. She must have bought that Christmas present for Cher because they are good friends, they like to sing together! Kaylene TV is playing some good songs like Rage, and there is a big mingkulpa (local native tobacco) plant growing underneath the good boomerangs.

    Kaylene Whiskey, 2018

    More evidence for the deep spirituality of aboriginal culture.

  6. C.L.

    “Why are all our dual citizens white?”

    Because white countries are all worth living in.
    Next question.

  7. Gary

    If I had to pick a movie that characterizes the commentators on Catallaxy Files it would be Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

  8. C.L.

    James Woods posts hilarious old video of Hillary Clinton explaining how to deal with North Korea to a panel of geniuses on The View:

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/994774034041786370

  9. Ragu

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #2709223, posted on May 12, 2018 at 11:41 am

    Apologies, Ragu, I was being oversensitive. I am glad I had you pegged as a decent sort, and as someone not here would no doubt jump to inform me, it is not all about me. Nemkat serves a purpose giving me your referent.

    What have I done now?

  10. mh

    From JC’s earlier link:

    To the Vietnamese people and the government of the DRVN:
    From John Sidney McCain, 624787, Lieutenant Commander, U.S. Navy, born 29 August, 1936, Panama, home state Oregon. Shot down 26 October, 1967, A-4E, an aircraft.
    I, as a U.S. airman, am guilty of crimes against the Vietnamese country and people. I bombed their cities, towns and villages and caused many injuries, even deaths, for the people of Vietnam.
    I was captured in the capital city of Hanoi, while attacking it. After I was captured, I was taken to the hospital in Hanoi, where I received very good medical help. I was given an operation on my legs, which allowed me to walk again in a camp, and my right arm, which was badly broken in three places.
    The doctors were very good and they knew a great deal about the practice of medicine. I remained in the hospital for some time and regained much of my health and strength. Since I arrived in the camp of detention, I received humane and lenient treatment.
    I received this kind treatment and food even though I came here as an aggressor and the people who I injured have much difficulty in their living standards. I wish to express my deep gratitude for my kind treatment and I will never forget this kindness extended to me.

  11. Empire 5:5

    Armadillo
    #2709159, posted on May 12, 2018 at 10:28 am

    Can’t help yourself, CL (says he who was sucked in yet again).

    CL is not to be trusted. Ever.

    Why?

  12. Delta A

    Go see for yourself, Empire:

    C.L.
    #2709125, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:52 am

  13. duncanm

    Two more Labor MPs face questions over there their citizenship

    sigh.. you have one job.

  14. Natural Instinct

    I wonder if the geniuses that thought up the NSW drink container refund scheme ever thought that some people would go along the footpaths on bin nights, tip over the yellow recycle bins, pick out the drink containers, and then move on.
    Saw a pretty slick operation, one ute driver and three people working the bins. Best in suburbs with lots of flats and thus bins and no one to take responsibility.
    .
    What was so wrong with the yellow bin approach that people could understand and complied with, more or less?

  15. areff

    Lizzie B: in regard to the withdrawn JCU paper and nicked laptop, I imagine this is the research in question:

    https://www.jcu.edu.au/news/releases/2018/january/plastics-linked-to-disease-in-coral

    Can’t find any reference to the paper, or another, being withdrawn though but.

  16. I bet everyone that still falls for CL’s trick watches the clip to the end. I always right click his links and never open anything with a Youtube address.

  17. LNP insider

    As foreshadowed by my previous posts, Turnbull favoured moderate Jane Prentice has been defeated at preselection by Cr Simmonds. As was suggested, Simmonds easily had the numbers 256 to 102.

  18. duncanm

    Ran out of money and looking at financial ruin ? People have gone postal for similar reasons in the past.

    possibly – looks like g;father was the only breadwinner in that lot.

    Bloody nasty, selfish, mad thing to do, nonetheless.

  19. areff

    from Times education supplement on the withdrawn plastics paper and more:

    It is the hedgehog of the reef: a tropical fish whose quill-like fin spines inflict a painful sting. Now the zebra lionfish has become embroiled in an expanding research misconduct investigation that stretches from a Queensland island to the chilly Baltic and the grasslands of Saskatchewan.

    The journal Biology Letters has issued an expression of concern about a 2014 research paper that claimed that the colourful creatures hunted cooperatively with each other and with other lionfish species – behaviour previously documented among marine mammals such as killer whales and bottlenose dolphins but never demonstrated in fish.

    “It has been brought to the attention of the editorial team that there are concerns regarding the validity of data used in the study,” the journal notice says.

    The article’s first author, a doctoral student at Australia’s James Cook University when she conducted the study, played a central role in arguably the biggest research misconduct scandal of 2017.

    Oona Lönnstedt was last year found guilty of deliberately fabricating the data underpinning a 2016 paper in the journal Science. That article had concluded that European perch larvae were becoming stunted, and easy pickings for predatory pike, because they preferred minute fragments of plastic to the tiny shrimp that composed their natural diet.

    The findings coincided with increasing concern about microplastics in the ocean and declining perch numbers in the Baltic. They attracted global headlines and helped to earn Dr Lönnstedt a $330,000 (£236,000) research grant from a Swedish funding agency.

    But the paper’s conclusions attracted disbelief from two marine biologists who had been at the research station on the Baltic island of Gotland, where Dr Lönnstedt claimed to have conducted the study, and had seen no signs of the experiments being conducted.

    They asked why the original data had not been included in the paper or archived in a public repository, as required under Science policies. Dr Lönnstedt and senior researcher Peter Eklöv, both of Uppsala University, claimed to have lost their only copy of the data when a laptop computer was stolen from a car.

    Investigations by seven whistleblowers in five countries, most of whom had come into contact with Dr Lönnstedt during fieldwork on the Great Barrier Reef, raised more questions.

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    The group compiled evidence that Dr Lönnstedt had been on Gotland for only 11 days – even though the experiments supposedly ran for three weeks – and had not had enough equipment or fish to conduct the experiments described in the paper.

    A 2016 investigation by Uppsala University cleared its researchers and accused the whistleblowers of maligning them. But inquiries by Sweden’s Central Ethical Review Board led to the paper’s retraction last May, while a follow-up investigation by Uppsala found the pair guilty of research misconduct.

    The findings triggered questions over where and how such a young researcher had learned to fabricate data. Dr Lönnstedt completed her undergraduate, postgraduate and doctoral degrees at James Cook University.

    In December, JCU said that there had been no allegations of research misconduct involving Dr Lonnstedt’s work there. Nevertheless, the university said that it would “review the PhD examiners’ report and determine whether any further investigation is required”.

    The concerns raised about Dr Lönnstedt’s 2014 paper echo the doubts cast over her Gotland study. Biology Letters said that it was investigating a discrepancy in the number of lionfish obtained by Dr Lönnstedt at her research facility, at Lizard Island off the north Queensland coast, and the dozens of specimens supposedly used in her experiments.

    An Australian marine biologist, who asked not to be named, said that the lionfish were very rare in the water of the northern Great Barrier Reef and dismissed the idea that a researcher could catch dozens of them around Lizard Island for the study as “completely unrealistic”.

    Dr Lönnstedt did not respond to requests for comment. Times Higher Education asked JCU for an update on its investigation into her thesis, including whether it had examined research related to the Biology Letters paper.

    A spokesman said that the university was “in the process of convening an external panel to investigate her research”. “JCU is committed to the highest standards of ethical research,” he added.

    Dr Lönnstedt’s co-authors on the 2014 paper, University of Saskatchewan biologists Doug Chivers and Maud Ferrari, declined to comment until the Biology Letters investigation had run its course.

    A Saskatchewan spokeswoman indicated that the pair had been unable to contact Dr Lönnstedt, who had been responsible for conducting the experiments. “Our administrators are now contacting JCU to ask whether that university can provide a copy of the data,” she added.

    According to records at the Lizard Island Research Station, Dr Lönnstedt’s work there has contributed to 18 papers in which she was lead author or co-author, on subjects including fish’s predatory behaviour, ocean acidification and habitat degradation. Half of the articles were also co-authored by Professor Chivers, Dr Ferrari or both.

  20. cohenite

    They asked why the original data had not been included in the paper or archived in a public repository, as required under Science policies. Dr Lönnstedt and senior researcher Peter Eklöv, both of Uppsala University, claimed to have lost their only copy of the data when a laptop computer was stolen from a car.

    The fish ate my homework.

  21. egg_

    Bishop shaking hands with the Hillary monster on bishop’s fb; the comments are outstanding:

    Is Bishop hiding the wrinkles with black eyeliner?
    Looks like the walking dead.

  22. Snoopy

    According to records at the Lizard Island Research Station, Dr Lönnstedt’s work there has contributed to 18 papers in which she was lead author or co-author, on subjects including fish’s predatory behaviour, ocean acidification and habitat degradation. Half of the articles were also co-authored by Professor Chivers, Dr Ferrari or both.

    Peter Ridd should break out the popcorn, lawyer up and go to town.

  23. Mak Siccar

    Another thought-provoking article from Brendan O’Neill. Too long to print here.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/a-manifesto-for-heresy/21379#.WvZgt4p_WhA

  24. Snoopy

    The findings triggered questions over where and how such a young researcher had learned to fabricate data. Dr Lönnstedt completed her undergraduate, postgraduate and doctoral degrees at James Cook University.

    JCU – ARC Centre of Excellence for Data Fabrication.

    Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi, Oi, Oi!

  25. rickw

    Ms Clinton

    Is used consistently through the article, why?

  26. Empire 5:5

    Ms Clinton

    Is used consistently through the article, why?

    Rug muncher.

  27. Empire 5:5

    Is Bishop hiding the wrinkles with black eyeliner?
    Looks like the walking dead.

    She knows she’ll be exposed before the year is out.

  28. Rae

    Martin Bryant – Pre-Trial Psychiatric Report

    In my opinion though Mr Bryant was clearly a distressed and disturbed young man he was not mentally ill. There is no evidence to support the notion that this man has a schizophrenic illness.The use of this diagnostic term in association with Mr Bryant by Dr Mather and Dr McCartney was based on the report of Mrs Bryant who had clearly misunderstood the opinion of Dr Cunninham-Dax. She had come to the conclusion that her son had been diagnosed with this condition. Neither Dr Sale, Dr Lucas nor myself found evidence in Mr Bryant of his ever having had schizophrenia. Similarly, in my opinion, he does not have evidence for a major depressive disorder. There was nothing in his history to suggest that he has ever been manic.

    Paul E. Mullen
    Professor of Forensic Psychiatry, Monash University.
    Director of Victorian Forensic Psychiatry Services.

  29. Rae

    Maybe a tad of research – even wiki – before posting such sweeping and incorrect statements?

    Another “valuable””contribution” from Old Super Snark.

  30. H B Bear

    No 1 Graegooglery Detective Agency strikes again.

  31. stackja

    rickw
    #2709268, posted on May 12, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    Ms Clinton

    Is used consistently through the article, why?

    Shouldn’t it be Ms Rodham?

  32. Caveman

    WTF is it with gays and bakeries.

    Bun in oven , syndrome. If they can hit enuff bakeries it may yield them a child.

  33. mh

    I thought Hillary stopped using Rodham. That was because everyone referred to her as Hillary Rotten Clinton.

  34. Bear Necessities

    As foreshadowed by my previous posts, Turnbull favoured moderate Jane Prentice has been defeated at preselection by Cr Simmonds. As was suggested, Simmonds easily had the numbers 256 to 102.

    What is it about Ryan that attracts the dickheads like Johnson, Prentice and Simmonds.

  35. Rae

    Shouldn’t it be Ms Rodham?

    Maybe. Or just Ms Hillary, if that was her preference.

    The Ms honorific has been around for hundreds of years as a form of address for females, regardless of marital status or gender relationship. Even the great Lily Langtry was referred to a Mizz Lily.

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    InfoWars’ Alex Jones attacked Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) on Friday, comparing the lawmaker to a rabid dog. “Maxine Waters is a mad dog. She is like Cujo,” Jones said, referring to novelist Stephen King’s horror novel about a rabid dog. “She has cultural, political, spiritual rabies.” Jones then went after 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, saying the two women had the “same disease.” “I don’t know which dog bit the other dog, but Hillary’s got the same disease — megalomania,” Jones said. “Everything in their wake is death and destruction.”

    The most feared disease which may slip through our borders. The Stick Insect should be closely watched for the first signs, in case she’s been bit as well, and at the first gob of froth put down.

  37. Nick

    Watching the footy. In the Foxtel feed, there’s a female umpiress with a fricking annoying voice in the background. Eddie is enough as it is.

  38. calli

    Top o’ the mornin’ Cats. The 24 hour wonder has fled.

    On Petra – it’s great, but I saw it through jaded eyes. If you go, make sure it’s April/May at the latest. In the heat it would be hideous.

    There is more than just the Treasury to see. No Great Seal to cross though. Also an Indiana Jones shop, complete with Holy Grails. I declined to buy one. 😀

  39. egg_

    Is that a neckbrace, or is the Hilbot another head-in-a-jar like Richo?
    The head looks offset way backwards – bizarre.
    Did the Ruskis graft her head onto a canine, as is their wont?

  40. egg_

    there’s a female umpiress with a fricking annoying voice in the background.

    Diversideh!

  41. Nick

    Diversideh

    Probably a lezzo too

  42. Delta A

    Thank you, Mac Siccar, for posting the Brendon O’neill article. Honest, good sense as usual, starting with:

    It is my sincerely held belief that a man can never become a woman. That no matter how many hormones he takes, or operations he has, or fabulous outfits he buys, a person who was born male can never become female.

    Years ago, it would have been inconceivable that one would feel it necessary to state such an obvious belief. Now, as O’Neill says, it’s heresy.

    Certainly worth reading.

  43. nemkat

    What is it about Ryan that attracts the dickheads like Johnson, Prentice and Simmonds.

    It was Qld’s safest Liberal Seat. The first 2 incumbents held it for 26 years each. Things fell apart when Moore accepted a Diplomatic appointment, and a pink haired ALP hag won the By Election.

  44. Delta A

    Oops. That should be Mak Siccar. Sorry.

  45. herodotus

    They’re saying that Trump has helped the Iranian Radicals by ditching this deal.

    Just when Iran was stopping being radical?
    Stopping their facilitation of terrorism?
    Stopping their attempts to hegemonise the ME?
    Stopping hostilities in all directions?
    Stopping their suppression of the population?
    Stopping their fixing of elections?

  46. nemkat

    Ch.7 has photos of the Granddad and Grandma from Margaret River.
    Going on facial expression, she’s a fruitloop, and he could turn nasty. Hard to see them as a couple, along with the daughters’self absorbed, in your face manner, something has set him off.

  47. LNP insider

    nemkat

    #2709293, posted on May 12, 2018 at 3:19 pm

    What is it about Ryan that attracts the dickheads like Johnson, Prentice and Simmonds.

    It was Qld’s safest Liberal Seat. The first 2 incumbents held it for 26 years each. Things fell apart when Moore accepted a Diplomatic appointment, and a pink haired ALP hag won the By Election.

    They lost it when they ran party president and Western Suburbs factional leader Bob Tucker instead of a candidate with strong community links.

    The Prentices have always been close associates of Tucker.

  48. nemkat

    Thanks for that and other welcome LNP news, LNP insider.

  49. OneWorldGovernment

    herodotus
    #2709295, posted on May 12, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    They’re saying that Trump has helped the Iranian Radicals by ditching this deal.

    Just when Iran was stopping being radical?
    Stopping their facilitation of terrorism?
    Stopping their attempts to hegemonise the ME?
    Stopping hostilities in all directions?
    Stopping their suppression of the population?
    Stopping their fixing of elections?

    Not forgetting the Iranian mobsters and terrorists scattered throughout South American countries and if our politicised so called security mavens reckon Iranian crap is not operating in Australia then I have a container of tobacco to sell them.

  50. Some History

    Dillary Clinton:

    It shoulda bin MEEEE…..

    https://imgur.com/H5e09zF

    WARNING
    – Do NOT view within 1 hour of meals.
    – May cause temporary blindness.
    – Possible dizziness and revulsion.
    – Nightmares may persist for several days after viewing.

  51. Some History

    I’ll get this right third time round 🙂

    Bill Rorten: “I’ve been informed that the bi-elections will cost $10 million. I vowed that I would pay 10% of that cost out of my own pocket…. out of my own pocket. So, [reaching into his infrequently-used wallet] here’s my $150”.

  52. jupes

    How good are West Coast!

    7 wins in a row. Bring on Richmond.

  53. Ragu

    areff
    #2709261, posted on May 12, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    Thanks for that. I wish you good luck nailing the fraud.

  54. Ragu

    How good are West Coast!

    Good, but it’s not your year, comrade. Tigers will clean you up faster than a Polish mother working a bed-sit.

  55. Mark from Melbourne

    See the Bombres fly down, down…

  56. Des Deskperson

    I missed the doubtless climactic final episode of harrow last night because I was dragged off – on the (false) promise of free grog – to a function at the Australian nations Library last night.

    The highlight of this function was a facilitated interview – by some mate – of current progressive icon and ABC/Fairfax pet Benjamin Law and his mother.

    It appears that they conjointly write a sex advice column in some hipster magazine and a key purpose of the interview was to flog their book, an anthology of their – presumably – most ‘edgy’ and ‘hilarious’ columns. Much of the interview consisted of Ben and his mum reading out some of this work and, yes, it was as tedious and unfunny as it sounds.

    Ben himself seemed to be stoked on his own, err, bravery, cheekiness, irreverence and downright transgressiveness in chucking around all this naughty stuff in the hallowed halls of the NLA, in the heart of the white Australian establishment; his attitude came across to me as sorta adolescent.

    Depressingly, most of the audience found this turgid smut uproarious, but that’s Canberra, where we have lots of educated people with supposedly expert policy development and programme management skills but not much maturity, sophistication or taste when it comes to art and literature.

  57. Geriatric Mayfly

    Classic case of being caught between a rock and a hard place.

    I missed the doubtless climactic final episode of harrow last night because I was dragged off –

  58. Diversideh

    Probably a lezzo too

    Ooh! Diversidy bonus!

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    ABC/Fairfax pet Benjamin Law and his mother.
    It appears that they conjointly write a sex advice column in some hipster magazine

    This is Grigs Tier behavior and should be roundly condemned by all humans no matter what level of sanity they possess.

  60. LNP insider

    Longman news. As speculated in the media former state MP Trev Ruthenberg, and former Morayfield Jason Snoe are contesting LNP preselection. Other names linked are Theresa Craig and former Bancroft Candidate Kara Thomas. Though Theresa Craig is not local and more likely for the senate.

    Reg Gulley and Chris Thompson are not expected to run.

    Also keep an eye on Bowman. The challenger to Laming is gaining momentum.

  61. Dillary Clinton:

    It shoulda bin MEEEE…..

    https://imgur.com/H5e09zF

    WARNING
    – Do NOT view within 1 hour of meals.
    – May cause temporary blindness.
    – Possible dizziness and revulsion.
    – Nightmares may persist for several days after viewing.

    Senator Palpatine is female? Why wasn’t i told?

  62. Farmer Gez

    clean you up faster than a Polish mother working a bed-sit

    Is that rude or is it just me?

  63. areff

    his attitude came across to me as sorta adolescent.

    You are what you love, as they say.

  64. Rae

    Today is International Nurses Day.

    They are wonderful people. Just wonderful.

  65. Mark from Melbourne

    Today is International Nurses Day.

    They are wonderful people. Just wonderful.

    Especially the grey ones, eh?

  66. jupes

    This is Grigs Tier behavior and should be roundly condemned by all humans no matter what level of sanity they possess.

    True. This is seriously depraved.

    We now have people in this country who pay to see a pervert and his mother (his mother!) talking about sex.

    How did we come to this?

  67. egg_

    I missed the doubtless climactic final episode of harrow last night

    You missed a cracker – there was an actual zombie in the season finale.
    Truly beyond parody.

  68. cohenite

    Brisbane could be renamed Miguntyun as a push for Aboriginal place names to be adopted across Queensland gathers steam. Ten proposals are before the Queensland Department of Natural Resources seeking to revert landmarks to traditional names, while Aboriginal elders have also launched bids to rename, or co-name, Burleigh Heads and Mount Stapylton in the state’s southeast.

    Aboriginal historians have long argued the Queensland capital should revert to its traditional name of Miguntyun, so-called because a stretch of Brisbane River resembled a “migun”, the Yugarabul word for the tip of a spearhead or spike.

    Debbie Sandy, whose father Desmond Sandy was last year part of an unsuccessful native title claim over Brisbane, yesterday said adopting Miguntyan would be “a day for celebration” for Aboriginal people.

    “That would be a blessing for our people,” she said.

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    “The local Murri community would be very supportive of it.”

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155669362609370&set=a.10150149146444370.295334.573739369&type=3&theater

    What a bunch of bullshit.

  69. DrBeauGan

    There is more than just the Treasury to see. No Great Seal to cross though. Also an Indiana Jones shop, complete with Holy Grails. I declined to buy one.

    Good grief. This is a shock to my romantic nature.

    I bought an Arabic style knife in Jerusalem, complete with fake joolz and scabbard because of the picture on the blade of Custer’s last stand. I thought it was very funny. My helpless laughter offended the purveyors of eastern wonders, so I bought it to appease them.

  70. Dr Fred Lenin

    My late wife was a midwife for years brought many children into the world. Loved her job ,and they loved her . My daughter was a coronary care nurse for years ,a very high pressure job , both my girls friends were nurses ,salt of the earth a great bunch of women ,not a whiner amongst them ,made the femenists look like silly kids .

  71. Steve trickler.

    A song for all Ladies.

    Gents watching will probably smile. Feminists will froth at the mouth. Qwerty types will feel left out.



  72. egg_

    they conjointly write a sex advice column

    ‘Hatefvcking Homos’?

  73. H B Bear

    The highlight of this function was a facilitated interview – by some mate – of current progressive icon and ABC/Fairfax pet Benjamin Law and his mother.

    Friends don’t do that to friends. Even for a couple of free mid strengths and some party pies.

  74. Snoopy

    I was dragged off – on the (false) promise of free grog – to a function at the Australian National Library last night.

    And some say Canberra nightlife is dull.

  75. DrBeauGan

    “The Palaszczuk Government is committed to reconciliation and closing the social, economic and health gap between Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Queenslanders and other Queenslanders.”

    Yeah. Changing the name of Brisbane is sure to accomplish that.

  76. egg_

    The highlight of this function was a facilitated interview – by some mate – of current progressive icon and ABC/Fairfax pet Benjamin Law and his mother.

    What’s on next week – a dwarf giraffe wrangling team?

  77. Rae

    Today is International Nurses Day.

    They are wonderful people. Just wonderful.

    Especially the grey ones Cancer Care Nurses , eh?.

    And the ED Nurses, who care for you when you turn up in Emergency with Febrile Neutropenia.

  78. Rae

    Mike from Melbourne. Facetiousness doesn’t become you.

  79. Delta A

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2709323, posted on May 12, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    A lovely tribute to your wife.

    There must be something very special in a person who devotes themselves to the care of others. I see it in my nine year old granddaughter who declared two years ago that she wants to be an ‘old person’s nurse’, although she doesn’t want to give them injections.

    This evolved from her close contact with her 90 + year old great grandmother and a few ailing great great uncles. Her patience and consideration is quite extraordinary.

    Nevertheless, we are wary of pushing this talent at this early stage, even though I’d quite like to have her caring for me down the track if/when I am no longer capable myself.

  80. Des Deskperson

    I understand that Ben Law is actually an ‘Ambassador’ for the National Library of Australia. The position is probably unpaid, but it would almost certainly involve ‘expenses’.

    An ‘Ambassador’ for the Library using a Library function to flog his own book seem to be to involve, prima facie, a conflict of interest.

    Fitz is also an ‘Ambassador’.

  81. nemkat

    No particular problem with renaming Brisbane Miguntyin [titter], but i’d like to know why the AEC can change the name of the Electorate of Corangamite to Cox, and there’s not a dicky bird of protest.

    Corangamite is an Aboriginal place name, and the Electorate has been so named since 1901.
    What’s the deal with Cox? Eva Cox?

  82. DrBeauGan

    There must be something very special in a person who devotes themselves to the care of others. I see it in my nine year old granddaughter who declared two years ago that she wants to be an ‘old person’s nurse’, although she doesn’t want to give them injections.

    This evolved from her close contact with her 90 + year old great grandmother and a few ailing great great uncles. Her patience and consideration is quite extraordinary.

    She sounds a sweetie, Delta. As you say, she’s a bit young to make up her mind, but she will surely wind up doing something good and kind.

  83. egg_

    Fitz is also an ‘Ambassador’.

    Law would probably like to mount the big phallus.

  84. Top Ender

    My bullshit career

    A magazine’s experiment into how many of us are employed in completely useless jobs has unearthed some inconvenient truths.

    By DAVID GRAEBER
    From The Weekend Australian MagazineMay 12th, 201812 min read

    In the spring of 2013, I unwittingly set off a very minor international sensation. It all began when I was asked to write an essay for a new radical magazine called Strike! The editor asked if I had anything ­provocative that no one else would be likely to publish. I usually have one or two ideas like that stewing around, so I drafted one up and presented him with a brief piece entitled On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs.

    The essay was based on a hunch. Everyone is familiar with people who don’t seem, to the outsider, to do much of anything: HR ­consultants, communications co-ordinators, PR researchers, financial strategists, corporate lawyers, or middle managers who spend their time staffing committees that discuss the problem of unnecessary committees. The list was seemingly endless.

    What, I wondered, if these jobs really are ­useless, and those who hold them know it? In a way, I wrote the piece as an experiment. I wanted to see what sort of response it would elicit.

    If ever an essay’s hypothesis was confirmed by its reception, this was it. On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs produced an explosion. Within weeks it had been translated into at least a dozen languages and was reprinted in newspapers from Switzerland to Australia. The online version on Strike! got more than a million hits and crashed the website repeatedly from too much traffic. Blogs sprouted. Comments sections filled up with confessions from white-collar professionals; ­people wrote to me asking for guidance, or to tell me I had inspired them to quit their jobs to find something more meaningful.

    Here is one enthusiastic response (I’ve collected hundreds), from the comments section of The Canberra Times: “Wow! Nail on the head! I am a corporate lawyer (tax litigator, to be ­specific). I contribute nothing to this world and am utterly miserable all of the time. I don’t like it when ­people have the nerve to say, ‘Why do it, then?’ because it is so clearly not that simple. It happens to be the only way right now for me to contribute to the [top] 1 per cent in such a ­significant way so as to reward me with a house in ­Sydney to raise my future kids …”

    None of the responses answered the question of how many people really felt that way about their jobs — but before long, statistical evidence did indeed surface. Polling agency YouGov took it upon itself to test the hypothesis and conducted a poll of Britons using language taken directly from the essay: Does your job “make a meaningful ­contribution to the world”? Astonishingly, 37 per cent said it didn’t (whereas 50 per cent said it did, and 13 per cent were uncertain). A later poll in ­Holland came up with similar results: in fact, a little higher, as 40 per cent of Dutch workers reported that their jobs had no good reason to exist.

    What I am calling “bullshit jobs” are jobs that are primarily or entirely made up of tasks that the person doing that job considers to be pointless, unnecessary or even pernicious. Jobs that, were they to disappear, would make no difference ­whatsoever. Above all, they’re jobs that the holders themselves feel shouldn’t exist. My research has revealed five basic types of bullshit jobs: flunkies, goons, duct tapers, box tickers and taskmasters.

    Flunkies

    Flunky jobs are those that exist only or primarily to make someone else look or feel important. Another term for this category might be “feudal retainers”. Throughout recorded history, rich and powerful men and women have tended to ­surround themselves with servants, clients, ­sycophants and minions of one sort or another. Many of those are expected to do at least some actual work; but at the top of the pyramid, there is usually a certain portion whose job it is to basically just stand around and look impressive. And you can’t be magnificent without an entourage.

    Some old-fashioned retainer jobs still exist. Doormen are an obvious example, performing the same function in the houses of the very rich that intercoms have performed for everyone else for decades. There is a continuum from explicit feudal leftovers of this type to front-desk personnel at places that obviously don’t need them.

    Here’s a comment from a female respondent named Gerte: “In 2010 I was a receptionist at a Dutch publishing company. The phone rang maybe once a day, so I was given a couple of other tasks — keep the candy dish full of mints; once a week, go to the conference room and wind a grand­father clock. The task that took the most time was managing another receptionist’s Avon sales …”

    Clearly, one call a day could be handled by someone else at the firm. Why shell out a full-time salary and benefits for a woman — actually, it would seem, in this case, two women — just to sit at the front desk all day doing nothing? The answer is that no one would take a company ­seriously if it had no one sitting at the front desk. Receptionists are required as a Badge of Seriousness even if there’s nothing else for them to do.

    Here’s Ophelia, who works for a firm that runs social marketing campaigns: “My job title is ‘portfolio co-ordinator’ and everyone always asks what that means or what it is I actually do? I have no idea. My job description says all sorts of stuff about facilitating relationships between partners etc, [but] the reality of my working life is functioning as a personal assistant to the director. And in that role I do have actual tasks that need doing simply because the people I assist are either too “busy” or too important to do this stuff themselves. Some days I run around frantically while most of the mid-level managers sit around and stare at a wall seemingly bored to death and just trying to kill time doing pointless things (like the guy who rearranged his backpack for a half-hour every day…)”

    Ophelia suspects her job was originally just an empty place-filler, created so that someone could boast about the number of employees he had working under him. But once it was created, a ­perverse dynamic set in whereby managers offloaded more and more of their responsibilities onto the female subordinate (her) to give the impression that they were too busy to do such things — leading, of course, to their having even less to do than previously. Ophelia’s example highlights a common ­ambiguity: whose job is really bullshit, that of the flunky or the boss?

    Goons

    The use of this term is, of course, metaphorical: I don’t mean actual gangsters or hired muscle. Rather, I’m referring to people whose jobs have an aggressive element, but, crucially, who exist only because other people employ them: most lobbyists, PR specialists, telemarketers and corporate lawyers. Also, like literal goons, they have a largely negative impact on society.

    I received a very large number of testimonies from call centre employees. Many considered their job bullshit because it involved tricking or pressuring people into doing things that weren’t really in their best interest. Here’s a sampling:

    “I had a bunch of call centre jobs selling things people didn’t really want/need, taking insurance claims, conducting pointless market research.”

    “It’s not just a lack of positive contribution, but you’re making an active negative contribution to people’s day. I called people up to hock them ­useless shit they didn’t need: specifically, access to their ‘credit score’ that they could obtain for free elsewhere, but that we were offering (with some mindless add-ons) for £6.99 a month.”

    “Our call centre’s resources are almost wholly devoted to coaching agents on how to talk people into things they don’t need as opposed to solving the real problems they are calling about.”

    So once again, what really irks is (1) the aggression and (2) the deception. Here I can speak from personal experience, having done such jobs, albeit usually very, very briefly: there are few things less pleasant than being forced against your better nature to try to convince others to do things that defy their common sense.

    Duct tapers

    Duct tapers are employees whose jobs exist only because of a glitch or fault in the organisation; who are there to solve a problem that ought not to exist. The most obvious examples of duct tapers are underlings employed to undo the damage done by sloppy or incompetent superiors.

    Magda: “I once worked for an [organisation] where I was the ‘tester’. I was required to proofread research reports written by their posh star researcher-statistician. The man didn’t know the first thing about statistics, and he struggled to ­produce grammatically correct sentences. My job was to convince him to undertake a major reworking of every report he produced. Of course, he would never agree to correct anything, let alone undertake a rework, so I would then have to take the report to the company directors. They were statistically illiterate too, but being the directors, they could drag things out even more …”

    Many duct-taper jobs are the result of a glitch in the system that no one has bothered to correct — tasks that could easily be automated, for instance, but haven’t been either because no one has got around to it, or because the manager wants to be surrounded by subordinates, or because of some structural confusion, or because of some combination of the three. I have any number of testimonies of this sort. Here’s a sampling:

    “I worked as a programmer for a travel company. Some poor person’s job was to receive updated plane timetables via email several times a week and copy them by hand into Excel.”

    “My job was to transfer information about the state’s oil wells into a different set of notebooks than they were currently in.”

    “I was given one responsibility: watching an inbox that received emails in a certain form from employees in the company asking for tech help, and copy and paste it into a different form. Not only was this a textbook example of an automatable job, it actually used to be automated!”

    Box tickers

    This term refers to employees who exist only or primarily to allow an organisation to be able to claim it is doing something that, in fact, it isn’t. The following testimony is from a woman hired to co-ordinate leisure activities in a care home:

    Betsy: “Most of my job was to interview ­residents and fill out a recreation form that listed their preferences. That form was then logged on a computer and promptly forgotten about forever. A lot of the time, I would complete a form for a short-term resident, and they would check out the next day. I threw away mountains of paper. The interviews mostly just annoyed the residents, as they knew it was just bullshit paperwork, and no one was going to care about their preferences.”

    The most miserable thing about box-ticking jobs is that the employee is usually aware that not only does the box-ticking exercise do nothing towards accomplishing its ostensible purpose, it actually undermines it, since it diverts time and resources away from the purpose itself. So here Betsy was aware that the time she spent processing forms about how residents might wish to be entertained was time not spent entertaining them.

    Taskmasters

    Taskmasters fall into two subcategories. Type 1 are those whose role consists entirely of assigning work to others. While their role is merely useless, the second variety does actual harm. Type 2s are taskmasters whose primary role is to create bullshit tasks for others to do, to supervise bullshit, or even to create entirely new bullshit jobs. One might also refer to them as bullshit generators.

    Ben, a middle manager, is a classic example of Type 1. “Ten people work for me, but from what I can tell they can all do the work without my oversight,” he says. “My only function is to hand them work, which I suppose the people that ­actually generate the work could do themselves.”

    Ben reckons he spends at least 75 per cent of his time allocating tasks and then monitoring if the underling is doing them, even though, he insists, he has absolutely no reason to believe they would behave any differently if he weren’t there.

    A typical example of a Type 2 taskmaster is Chloe, who held the post of academic dean at a prominent British university, with a specific responsibility to provide “strategic leadership” to a troubled campus. Now, those of us in academia who like to think of ourselves as teachers and scholars before all else have come to fear the word “strategic”. “Strategic mission statements” (or even worse, “strategic vision documents”) instil a particular terror, since these are the primary means by which corporate management techniques — setting up quantifiable methods for assessing performance, forcing teachers and scholars to spend more and more of their time assessing and justifying what they do and less and less time actually doing it — are insinuated into academic life.

    The same suspicions hold for any document that repeatedly uses the words “quality”, “excellence”, “leadership” or “stakeholder”. My immediate reaction upon hearing that Chloe was in a “strategic leadership” position was to suspect that not only was her job bullshit, it actively inserted bullshit into others’ lives as well.

    Chloe: “I had no budget. I had no authority over the buildings, the timetable or any other operational matters. All I could do was come up with a new strategy that was in effect a re-spin of [existing] strategies.” So her primary role was to come up with yet another strategic vision statement, of the kind that are regularly deployed to justify the number-crunching and box-ticking that has become so central to academic life. But since Chloe had no actual power, it was all meaningless shadow play. What she did get was what all high-level university administrators now receive as their primary badge of honour: her own tiny empire of administrative staff.

    There is really only one class of people who notonly deny their jobs are pointless but also express outright hostility to the very idea that our economy is rife with bullshit jobs. For many years I have been receiving periodic, unsolicited communications from indignant entrepreneurs and executives telling me that my entire premise is wrong. No one, they insist, would ever spend company money on an employee who wasn’t needed.

    Such communications rarely offer particularly sophisticated arguments. Most just employ the ­circular argument that since none of the things I’ve described could have occurred in a market economy, they don’t occur — so all the people who are convinced their jobs are worthless must be deluded, or self-important, or simply don’t understand their real function, which is fully visible only to those above.

    One might be tempted to conclude from these responses that there is at least one class of people who genuinely don’t realise their jobs are bullshit. Except, of course, what CEOs do isn’t really bullshit. For better or for worse, their actions do make a difference in the world. They’re just blind to all the bullshit they create.

    Paywalled link

  85. Delta A

    she will surely wind up doing something good and kind.

    Beaugy, she’s also the most opinionated, self-sufficient, no-nonsense little girl I’ve ever come across. If I didn’t love her so much – and know that she loves me – I’d be quite scared of her. 🙂

  86. Des Deskperson

    ‘You missed a cracker – there was an actual zombie in the season finale.
    Truly beyond parody.’

    Wow, thanks egg, I’ll chase it up on I-view.

  87. woolfe

    Well i hope she enjoys cleaning up when the old ones literally shit themselves, shudder. My daughter is a nurse and wont do old age.

  88. egg_

    hired to co-ordinate leisure activities in a care home

    A perfect job for Grigs!

  89. egg_

    Des Deskperson
    #2709344, posted on May 12, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Worth it for the chuckles, yours truly thought it was a hallucinatory sequence on the part of Harrow, but no.

  90. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2709317, posted on May 12, 2018 at 5:33 pm
    Today is International Nurses Day.
    They are wonderful people. Just wonderful.

    Mmmyes, especially with a side serve of fava beans …

    Grigory M
    #2293700, posted on February 12, 2017 at 10:07 am
    A few nights ago in the ED, a couple of nurses were talking loudly enough for everyone else to hear. One said she had a pet duck and felt guilty eating roast chicken in front of it – she wondered whether the pet duck could recognise the smell. The other nurse said she didn’t know, but maybe not. Then another nurse chimed in and asked them if they’d smelled a cooked human – they both said no, but that killed the conversation.

  91. DrBeauGan

    Beaugy, she’s also the most opinionated, self-sufficient, no-nonsense little girl I’ve ever come across. If I didn’t love her so much – and know that she loves me – I’d be quite scared of her.

    She sounds my kind of gal! Spiky is like that, but older.

    Pity she’s a bit young for me. If she lived in Perth I’d be asking permission to take her to the movies, all the same.

  92. egg_

    On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs

    White collar ‘Dirty Jobs’ – pays the rent.

  93. cohenite

    My late wife was a midwife for years brought many children into the world. Loved her job ,and they loved her . My daughter was a coronary care nurse for years ,a very high pressure job , both my girls friends were nurses ,salt of the earth a great bunch of women ,not a whiner amongst them ,made the femenists look like silly kids .

    +100

  94. Top Ender

    My first job was in a brick factory. There were two of us clerks in a little office. The duties were simple: write out invoices for trucks leaving with loads of bricks for building sites; sell a few to people for bookcases and the like, and do the pays for the blokes in the factory.

    My fellow worker had his spare time organised. He was into the Form Guide upon arrival, and by 1030 he had his bets on via his TAB phone account. The afternoons were spent listening to the gee-gee races on his transistor radio.

    Within a few days I asked him what I was to do with my spare time. He suggested I bring in a book. I then asked him why there were two of us. His answer was logical, simple and devastating. So he could have a lunch break. And so the office would be manned while one of us did the bank run.

    I lasted six months before resigning.

  95. miltonf

    Hey Des liked your story about the National Library. Didn’t they have a nude function there once?

  96. jupes

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    So much bullshit in one sentence.

    Arrogant as fuck too. She is saying that pre-settled Brisbane was not just a nation. It was a world. You see lefties, this is the shit you get when you pretend to believe their stupid bullshit.

    Of course once Brisbane is changed to an Abo name, it will only be a matter of time before it will be given back to its ‘rightful’ owners.

  97. miltonf

    Sorry I think it was the National Gallery!

  98. Tailgunner

    My bullshit career

    Thanks for that, TE.
    Top shelf.

  99. Delta A

    Well i hope she enjoys cleaning up when the old ones literally shit themselve

    You’re out of touch. Qualified nursing staff don’t do any of that yukky stuff. That’s delegated to the Sudanese care-workers.

  100. jupes

    Ali Khamenei is probably better read than Donald Trump.

    LOL

    If the idiot takes that book seriously he will be joining the long queue of idiots who have underestimated the great man.

    More winning.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    Given that Aborigines had no written language, how could any names be other then hearsay?

  102. Geriatric Mayfly

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    Was it the Rainbow Serpent in her Garden of Eden that brought it all the grief? Just to get the cultural confusion into some sort of harmony.

  103. Oh come on

    Family members released a statement through police…”We respectfully ask that the community refrain from speculating on the circumstances surrounding this tragic incident.

    Mark McGowan, doing some respectful speculating in lamenting the deaths of six of the seven killed:

    “Four young children, a mother and a grandmother being killed in this way is just a terribly distressing and sad thing, and I think we all felt it keenly,” he said.

  104. Delta A

    If she lived in Perth I’d be asking permission to take her to the movies, all the same.

    She’d turn you down Beaugy.

    Already, she has definite ideas about her future standard of living. Not possible on a nurses salary?

    Her nickname is Paris. With good reason.

  105. nemkat

    My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    [So much bullshit in one sentence.]

    Where’s the bullshit, jupes?
    Okay, she must have a few non Aboriginal ancestors, but the name ”Sandy” is indigenous to the area in question.

  106. Cary

    he will be joining the long queue of idiots who have underestimated the great man

    That would be the millions of people in countries all over the world who have read translated copies of it and guffawed at poor old America for having such a counter-productive dropkick as president.

  107. Oh come on

    six of the seven dead, that should have read…

  108. zyconoclast

    We now have people in this country who pay to see a pervert and his mother (his mother!) talking about sex.

    How did we come to this?

    I blame the Greeks. They started it.

  109. zyconoclast

    Today is International Nurses Day.

    Nurse!

  110. jupes

    That would be the millions of people in countries all over the world who have read translated copies of it and guffawed at poor old America for having such a counter-productive dropkick as president.

    Yep. That’s them.

  111. nemkat

    Given that Aborigines had no written language, how could any names be other then hearsay?

    Here’s a photo of King Sandy, Zulu. Don’t say i never do anything for you.

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Where’s the bullshit, jupes?

    That areas of Australia before the horrible nasty whitefella turned up, were the “Garden of Eden” where the “Noble Savage” lived in peace and harmony?

  113. jupes

    Family members released a statement through police…”We respectfully ask that the community refrain from speculating on the circumstances surrounding this tragic incident.

    They’re kidding right?

  114. Tailgunner

    Missed all the #Winning this week did we, Cary?
    Lol
    Chin up matey, only another 6 years of it to go.

  115. Nick

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    I’m guessing it’s a coincidence that the area currently has a high land value and that she didn’t name, say, Logan. Strange also the first white settlers made no mention of such a paradise.

  116. Tom

    Top Ender, thanks for the piece about public service parasites like Googleory hoovering up our taxes for no result. I reckon some clerk could do his job for a third or a quarter of the outlay and we’d notice no difference.

  117. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    That would be the millions of people in countries all over the world who have read translated copies of it and guffawed at poor old America for having such a counter-productive dropkick as president.

    Yer talkin’ mince withoot a tattie in sight.

  118. cohenite

    I reread Sykes with my glasses on and it unequivocally establishes that S.44 operates from the time of nomination:

    At what time does the disqualification operate?
    24. The case for disqualification rests on that part of s.44 which provides that any person who falls within par.(iv) “shall be incapable of being chosen … as a … member of the House of Representatives”. The petitioner submits that the word “chosen” extends to incorporate all the procedural steps necessarily involving the candidate in the electoral process so that the disqualification precludes participation in that process, including the step of nomination. On the other hand, the first respondent and the Attorney-General submit that a member is “chosen” when the member is declared to be elected, that is, when the poll is declared. On this interpretation of the provision, a candidate is disqualified only in the event that the disqualifying characteristic is in existence when the poll is declared. If this interpretation is accepted, the first respondent was not disqualified because his resignation took effect on 16 April 1992, before the declaration of the poll on 22 April 1992.

  119. egg_

    Aunty seems to have a horde of young pooves moving to be frontline presenters on ABC1 News and even Landline segments – how long till we get Carmen Miranda look-a-likes presenting?

  120. nemkat

    Family members released a statement through police…”We respectfully ask that the community refrain from speculating on the circumstances surrounding this tragic incident.

    The Channel 7 voiceover stated that the cops say ”what happened will probably never be known”.
    That tells me they know what happened, but the truth is politically unpalateable

  121. egg_

    “My ancestors were born in the area that is now the Botanical Gardens back when it really was a Garden of Eden and people from all around would say they were going to Miguntyun.

    Full of snakes?

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here’s a photo of King Sandy, Zulu. Don’t say i never do anything for you.

    I’m sorry, you have a point you wish to make?

  123. DrBeauGan

    Delta A
    #2709366, posted on May 12, 2018 at 6:45 pm
    If she lived in Perth I’d be asking permission to take her to the movies, all the same.

    She’d turn you down Beaugy.

    Already, she has definite ideas about her future standard of living. Not possible on a nurses salary?

    Her nickname is Paris. With good reason.

    Gold class? Her choice of movie? (As long as it’s not a rom-com, which she’d probably despise as much as I do) Dinner at sizzlers?

    I haven’t seen Rampage yet. 😁

  124. nemkat

    Developers and greasy State Governments have had their greedy eyes on thew ”Old” Botanic Gardens for decades. Transferring control to Abos would make it hard for objectors to stop the vandals.

  125. cohenite

    Ali Khamenei is probably better read than Donald Trump. https://globalnews.ca/news/4204277/iran-ayatollah-fire-and-fury-book-trump/

    Just when you think our maggots/trolls have exhausted their putridness along comes another fuckwit. This pissant has oozed in here before?

  126. Cary

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written. Donald Trump’s choice would probably be nothing. Doesn’t read, as even his advisors note.

  127. DrBeauGan

    I like talking to children. They tend to say what they think, same as I do, except when we’re joking.

    One exchange with a three year old went:

    Me: “Hello horrible.”
    Miss: “I’m not horrible, you’re horrible.”
    Me: “Are you sure, I knew one of us is horrible, I thought it was you.”
    Miss: (laughing)”No, you’re the one who’s horrible.”

    I laughed and so we parted friends, both of us agreeing that she’d kept her end up very competently.

    I’ve had less amicable and less intelligent exchanges on the Çat.

  128. RobK

    Full of snakes?
    Dont forget ticks.

  129. Delta A

    Her choice of movie?

    Luckily, it’s still Snow White.

    We’re just hoping she doesn’t come across ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest’. I think she’d perceive Nurse Rached as a role model.

  130. Tel

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written.

    There always was a bit of a Marxist taint to the Iranian revolutionaries.

    How well do you think they have done improving the lifestyle of the average Iranian, as compared with what they had under the Shah? About 3 out of 10 I’d put it.

  131. Delta A

    Nurse Ratched… but you knew that.

  132. jupes

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written. Donald Trump’s choice would probably be nothing. Doesn’t read, as even his advisors note.

    After well over a year of the Trump presidency, this is the best you’ve got.

    Sad.

  133. sdfc

    I>How well do you think they have done improving the lifestyle of the average Iranian, as compared with what they had under the Shah?

    It’s those average Iranians that are hurt most by sanctions.

  134. Rae

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written.

    There always was a bit of a Marxist taint to the Iranian revolutionaries.

    But Hugo’s Les Misérables is a literary and stage musical masterpiece that has nothing to do with Marxism. Except for those whose narrow political views see Marxism where it is not actually evident.

  135. Delta A

    Petition against renewables

    Signed. Thanks, cohenite. Any idea how many have signed?

  136. Shy Ted

    My bullshit career
    A magazine’s experiment into how many of us are employed in completely useless jobs has unearthed some inconvenient truths.
    Flunkies
    Goons
    Duct tapers
    Box tickers
    Taskmasters

    You’ve just described every government department ever.

  137. hzhousewife

    Beaugy, she’s also the most opinionated, self-sufficient, no-nonsense little girl I’ve ever come across. If I didn’t love her so much – and know that she loves me – I’d be quite scared of her.

    What a treat! The darling girl is clearly born too late to become a Matron of old, those dragons were formidable and effective! I do hope there is a place for her in the modern world.

  138. Delta A

    I’ve often thought the same, hzhousewife. Bless her.

  139. Some History

    For anyone that missed the earlier posting
    of the lingerie model.

    https://imgur.com/X17a0x9

    WARNING
    Adult Content
    🙂

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written. Donald Trump’s choice would probably be nothing. Doesn’t read, as even his advisors note.

    LOL.

    Tweet
    Tweet
    Bibliography of Donald Trump

    Note the dates of those two tweets. Don’t confuse Trump’s simple language with simple mindedness. He has trained himself to speak like a 4th grader on the Flesch-Kinkaid scale because that is how he found he can cut through to his target audience.

    Who put him into the White House.

  141. DrBeauGan

    Delta A
    #2709398, posted on May 12, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    Her choice of movie?

    Luckily, it’s still Snow White.

    Nah. I’m not into horror movies.

  142. Shy Ted

    Watching You Only Live Twice. Very sexy scene between Moneypenny and Bond. How come he never boinked her? She’s gorgeous.

  143. twostix

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written. Donald Trump’s choice would probably be nothing. Doesn’t read, as even his advisors note.

    And look at where thats gotten him in life. What a loser the billionaire US president is!

  144. Rae

    Bibliography of Donald Trump

    Maybe that should read: Bibliography of Donald Trump’s Ghostwriters.

    Trump made a practice of hiring ghostwriters and co-authors to write his books.

    And the Sun Tzu tweets seem awry with his normal tweeting style. So, perhaps they also are ghostwritten, maybe by an underling specifically employed to do so.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rae – The events of the last two weeks are classic Sun Tzu. Yes he has industrialized book writing, and possibly even tweeting (but stuff like “covfefe” suggest otherwise…which doesn’t mean he doesn’t do it on purpose for effect). But stuff like “Art of the Deal” is him describing what he does. He’s applying Art of the Deal to the Presidency with remarkable success. You can see it in much of the deal making and negotiation with congresscritters especially.

  146. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    For anyone that missed the earlier posting
    of the lingerie model.

    troll’s mother

  147. Geriatric Mayfly

    Trump made a practice of hiring ghostwriters and co-authors to write his books.

    And Obama relied on the services of that domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers, to write his contribution to the political canon.

  148. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    75 years since the torpedoing, and sinking, of the hospital ship “Centaur” off the coast of Queensland.

    Lest We Forget.

  149. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I’m sorry, you have a point you wish to make?

    he’s just sharing pics of grandad

  150. Geriatric Mayfly

    … a Matron of old, those dragons were formidable and effective!

    Often distinguished from their underlings, by formidable size, not a stitch out of place and a facial wart or three with a tuft of protruding hairs.

  151. Confused Old Misfit

    Energy petition signed.

    Was the “Garden of Eden” in Brissie the place where the indigenous gentlemen of the area beat the crap out of their women?

  152. herodotus

    The left are ardent admirers of les francais, since les frogs are as left as they come.
    But today we see a story about two frogs who set fire to a poor little quokka – and see nothing wrong with what they’ve done! Fined, but unrepentant! WFT?
    That’s the real left for you.

  153. Rae

    Trump made a practice of hiring ghostwriters and co-authors to write his books.

    And Obama relied on the services of that domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers, to write his contribution to the political canon.

    Since BoN has affirmed the veritas of Wiki tonight, seemingly not so:

    Bill Ayers 2008 presidential election controversy

    Investigations by CNN, The New York Times and other news organizations concluded that Obama did not have a close relationship with Ayers.

  154. OneWorldGovernment

    LNP insider
    #2709313, posted on May 12, 2018 at 5:18 pm

    LNP insider

    Understand that your crap has no relevance and true LNP would rip the guts out of all LNP and leave them bleeding out on the floor of parliament.

  155. Rae

    WFT?

    That’s very correct French.

  156. herodotus

    Yes, minor typo above.
    We saw a number plate the other day that was simply BTF.
    What does that mean? asked the missus.
    It means WTF was taken already, I replied.

  157. herodotus

    Investigations by CNN, The New York Times and other news organizations concluded that Obama did not have a close relationship with Ayers.

    Rae, always The Joker.

  158. Bruce of Newcastle

    Investigations by CNN, The New York Times and other news organizations concluded that Obama did not have a close relationship with Ayers.

    Ayers said he wrote it.

  159. Shy Ted

    Gotta love Karma. Pop star Lily Allen – In fact, Allen actually did bring a Muslim refugee family into her sumptuous apartment, but got a nasty dose of karmic reality dumped on her head. The unabashedly socialist celebrity wanted to move back to her lavish pad and demanded that the refugees move out but they claimed diplomatic immunity and now she was unable to move back into her home.
    Much to Allen’s horror, she wasn’t able to evict them. She took to Twitter over it and the backlash was epic. She was originally accused of profiteering by renting out her apartment to wealthy foreigners. Then she let the Muslim freeloaders move in who wouldn’t move out.

    Some of her hits are Smile, Not Fair, F**k You, Hard Out Here. Prescient some might say.

  160. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Investigations by CNN, The New York Times and other news organizations concluded that Obama did not have a close relationship with Ayers.

    I can guarantee you that Mueller would find to the contrary.

  161. Nick

    That’s excellent, Shy Ted

  162. Some History

    Gotta love Karma. Pop star Lily Allen

    Lily snot happy 🙁

  163. cohenite

    The cacophony of trolls is strident tonight.

    Still this:

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written.

    Hugo would have been stoked since his masterpiece is about the good in humans amidst the vileness. Of course there is no good in islam just misery but the gesture of recognition (is it true?) by the head vermin of islam shows there is a scintilla of virtue everywhere.

    As for being the best, certainly it ranks but then so does Tom Jones and Pride & Prejudice.

  164. cohenite

    Petition against renewables

    Signed. Thanks, cohenite. Any idea how many have signed?

    I don’t but they want 10000. Some background:

    https://www.facebook.com/energyinaustralia/photos/a.618732968314380.1073741828.616431441877866/745514818969527/?type=3&theater

  165. Snoopy

    The Battle for Fire Support Coral is on History channel.

  166. DrBeauGan

    Thanks, Zippy. If anyone had any doubts about what is going on in Europe with the invasion from mena, that should settle them.

  167. Mark from Melbourne

    Mike from Melbourne. Facetiousness doesn’t become you.

    Though I know I should scroll the troll I somehow can’t.

    Read the moniker, Grigs.

  168. Some History

    But today we see a story about two frogs

    https://imgur.com/H3XW1bf

    ribbit

    WARNING
    – Do NOT view within 1 hour of meals.
    – May cause temporary blindness.
    – Possible dizziness and revulsion.
    – Nightmares may persist for several days after viewing.

  169. Rae

    Investigations by CNN, The New York Times and other news organizations concluded that Obama did not have a close relationship with Ayers.

    Ayers said he wrote it.

    Yes indeed, BoN. From your link:

    Ayers has obscured his responses with a layer of irony, telling inquirers in essence, Yes, I did, and if you can help me prove it, I’ll split the royalties with you.

    So, not exactly a sincere affirmation.

    [I thought your Wiki reference was more credible]

  170. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    WSJ Paywalled, so I have posted the whole thing
    About That FBI ‘Source’
    Did the bureau engage in outright spying against the 2016 Trump campaign?

    The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when it allowed House Intelligence Committee members to view classified documents about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of that source’s name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.

    Among them is that the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation outright hid critical information from a congressional investigation. In a Thursday press conference, Speaker Paul Ryan bluntly noted that Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes’s request for details on this secret source was “wholly appropriate,” “completely within the scope” of the committee’s long-running FBI investigation, and “something that probably should have been answered a while ago.” Translation: The department knew full well it should have turned this material over to congressional investigators last year, but instead deliberately concealed it.

    House investigators nonetheless sniffed out a name, and Mr. Nunes in recent weeks issued a letter and a subpoena demanding more details. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s response was to double down—accusing the House of “extortion” and delivering a speech in which he claimed that “declining to open the FBI’s files to review” is a constitutional “duty.” Justice asked the White House to back its stonewall. And it even began spinning that daddy of all superspook arguments—that revealing any detail about this particular asset could result in “loss of human lives.”

    This is desperation, and it strongly suggests that whatever is in these files is going to prove very uncomfortable to the FBI.

    The bureau already has some explaining to do. Thanks to the Washington Post’s unnamed law-enforcement leakers, we know Mr. Nunes’s request deals with a “top secret intelligence source” of the FBI and CIA, who is a U.S. citizen and who was involved in the Russia collusion probe. When government agencies refer to sources, they mean people who appear to be average citizens but use their profession or contacts to spy for the agency. Ergo, we might take this to mean that the FBI secretly had a person on the payroll who used his or her non-FBI credentials to interact in some capacity with the Trump campaign.

    This would amount to spying, and it is hugely disconcerting. It would also be a major escalation from the electronic surveillance we already knew about, which was bad enough. Obama political appointees rampantly “unmasked” Trump campaign officials to monitor their conversations, while the FBI played dirty with its surveillance warrant against Carter Page, failing to tell the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that its supporting information came from the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now we find it may have also been rolling out human intelligence, John Le Carré style, to infiltrate the Trump campaign.

    Which would lead to another big question for the FBI: When? The bureau has been doggedly sticking with its story that a tip in July 2016 about the drunken ramblings of George Papadopoulos launched its counterintelligence probe. Still, the players in this affair—the FBI, former Director Jim Comey, the Steele dossier authors—have been suspiciously vague on the key moments leading up to that launch date. When precisely was the Steele dossier delivered to the FBI? When precisely did the Papadopoulos information come in?
    And to the point, when precisely was this human source operating? Because if it was prior to that infamous Papadopoulos tip, then the FBI isn’t being straight. It would mean the bureau was spying on the Trump campaign prior to that moment. And that in turn would mean that the FBI had been spurred to act on the basis of something other than a junior campaign aide’s loose lips.

    We also know that among the Justice Department’s stated reasons for not complying with the Nunes subpoena was its worry that to do so might damage international relationships. This suggests the “source” may be overseas, have ties to foreign intelligence, or both. That’s notable, given the highly suspicious role foreigners have played in this escapade. It was an Australian diplomat who reported the Papadopoulos conversation. Dossier author Christopher Steele is British, used to work for MI6, and retains ties to that spy agency as well as to a network of former spooks. It was a former British diplomat who tipped off Sen. John McCain to the dossier. How this “top secret” source fits into this puzzle could matter deeply.

    I believe I know the name of the informant, but my intelligence sources did not provide it to me and refuse to confirm it. It would therefore be irresponsible to publish it. But what is clear is that we’ve barely scratched the surface of the FBI’s 2016 behavior, and the country will never get the straight story until President Trump moves to declassify everything possible. It’s time to rip off the Band-Aid.

  171. C.L.

    Pronouncing the “best novel ever written” is a bit like Alan Bond pronouncing Sunflowers “the greatest painting ever.” Only a hillbilly would make such a claim. That said, a quick Google finds Khamenei said Hugo’s opus was “a book of wisdom.” I’m therefore duty-bound to defend his assertion, which was more sensible than a declaration of best.

    The greatest novel I personally ever read was Moby-Dick. A novel that affected me and made me appreciate freedom and prosperity – perhaps above all others – was Ivan Denisovich.

    As for those who read few if any novels, that is perfectly understandable and respectable. I don’t read novels these days myself. Trump would be a skim-reader on a voluminous scale; mostly technicalities, corporate reports and journalism. His predecessor was well-read supposedly but moved heaven and earth to jail the Little Sisters of the Poor. Trump has brought North Korea to the negotiating table. Make of that comparison what you will as regards the metaphysical efficacy of reading novels.

  172. OneWorldGovernment

    The mad islamic farques that took over iran now have the ‘rods from God’ and the Israelis about to wipe the scum out.

    The pale scum have burnt down gas pipelines into gaza’s place and are fawquing full on criminals.

    But you know lets attack Israel.

  173. Snoopy

    This has to be the thing of a Leftist’s wettest dream.

    Cardinal George Pell has emerged as a mystery guest who dined at a lavish Rome restaurant with embattled US environmental chief Scott Pruitt to secretly plan a public debate challenging climate change.

  174. twostix

    Obama asked his fellow bugmen in the FBI to help stop Trump.

    They couldn’t wait to wiretap and spy on a populist nationalist campaign and reached out to all of their contacts in the anglosphere todo the same.

    Without the veneer of legitimacy that the democrat president gave them in doing so, we are now left with a mass festering police state apparatus exposed.

  175. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    From 60.6 million in 2017, Italy’s population is expected to fall by more than ten percent over the next several decades to just 54.1 million in 2065, ISTAT stated in its May 2018 report. This drop will occur despite increased life expectancy, which is projected to grow by 5 years for both genders, reaching 86.1 years and 90.2 years, respectively for men and women (80.6 and 85 years in 2016), ISTAT said.

    The fertility rate in Italy is currently 1.34 children per woman, significantly below the replacement level of roughly 2.1 children per woman. Globally, Italy is ranked 212 out of 223 countries for new live births as a percentage of the total population, with just 8.6 live births per 1000 citizens.

    Since Italians are having fewer and fewer babies, the only thing holding keeping the population from more severe decline is immigration, which means as a consequence that Italy is becoming less and less Italian.

  176. OneWorldGovernment

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2709452, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Prominent Muslims in Sweden are now demanding that the Islamic call to prayer be broadcast throughout the country after it was allowed in the city of Växjö.

    If we had a serial Australian leader we would call Sweden an enemy country.

  177. twostix

    In fact the fbi amd globohomo bugman class were so eager and able to roll out a mass spying operation against a us politician one must wonder how much practice they’ve had previously at it.

  178. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    OTTAWA (AFP) –
    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau hopes the G7 will step up to fight extreme nationalism, and adopt concrete measures on the environment and women’s education in crisis zones when it meets in Canada next month, he told AFP in an exclusive interview.

    “Many countries and many citizens are questioning the current system, as seen by the emergence of extreme nationalism or right-wing populism, or (voicing opposition) to anti-globalization,” Trudeau said.

  179. DrBeauGan

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2709452, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:02 pm
    Prominent Muslims in Sweden are now demanding that the Islamic call to prayer be broadcast throughout the country after it was allowed in the city of Växjö.

    Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting.

  180. egg_

    BTF?

    Before Trump, Fvckers?
    Bacon, Tomato & Fries (pizza topping)?

  181. stackja

    Premier announces curriculum overhaul to give core subjects more prominence
    Jack Morphet, Education reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    THE school curriculum will be stripped back to core values of English, maths and the sciences in a once-in-a-generation review to “declutter” the entire education system.

    Every subject from kindergarten to Year 12 will go under the microscope to ­remove what the state government considers irrelevant content that has crept in over the past 30 years.

    One potential effect of the overhaul, to be announced today by Premier Gladys ­Berejiklian and Education Minister Rob Stokes, would be to eliminate “political correctness” from education.

    The review will also focus more on achievements by Australian authors and ­inventors while raising the importance of vocational training for those who don’t want to go to university.

    President of the Secondary Principals Council Chris Presland said the situation was no better in high schools.
    “Schools are now expected to teach road safety, alcohol and drug safety, teaching kids how to behave online, health and fitness, water safety, CPR, first aid — the list goes on,” Mr Presland said.

    This was as well as teaching new skills such as typing, which comes on top of handwriting, and “soft skills” such as creativity, team-building and collaboration.
    “Can you tell me something that’s been taken out of the syllabus in the past 30 years? The answer is no,” Mr Presland said.

    “It is possible to teach all of those things but it’s not easy, especially as the curriculum doesn’t explain how to teach them, it’s just assumed teachers will work it out.”

    Visiting her old primary school, North Ryde Public, Ms Berejiklian said the new curriculum would show students “the sky’s the limit” by putting a stronger emphasis on Australian authors and ­inventors and also focus on vocations at high schools.

  182. Tel

    Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting.

    As do we all.

  183. twostix

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau hopes the G7 will step up to fight extreme nationalism, and adopt concrete measures on the environment and women’s education in crisis zones when it meets in Canada next month, he told AFP in an exclusive interview.

    Hahaha this is the leader of the force to put down the counter revolution thats in progress.

    The best they have.

    Sad.

  184. Bruce of Newcastle

    Rae – Ayers is an accomplished author if you’ve seen his own bibliography. Obama is as unlikely an author as Trump. It makes eminent sense for guys like them to get authors to assist them to get the concepts across that they want transmitted. So who better for Obama to get than a guy of his own political colour, who is adept at writing prose? It seems a decent idea to me.

    The only reason that Ayers and Obama should be reticent about the engagement is if it was politically embarrassing, which in the run up to 2008 it would be. Obama was acutely aware of that issue, and Ayers or someone was coaching him – which again is what a guy aspiring to the Presidency needs. Someone for example told Obama a long time ago that he had to go to church. He did so – a very special church, but nevertheless a church. For 20 long years. Since Obama seems not to have entered a church since he left the White House, and I don’t think was much in attendance of services throughout his Presidency, it shows a guy who was assisted politically from quite a young age. Which is to be expected.

    Hillary is the same – she wrote the book on Saul Alinksy, literally. And has been the éminence grise of the Clinton team likewise from an early age.

  185. OneWorldGovernment

    Saw a bloke walk in to where I was sitting having a quiet time.

    He kept staring at me with crazy eyes.

    He gets up and comes to me as I’m sitting and says “where you from”.

    I stand up, I’m about 6 inches taller, and say Australia.

    I then ask, “where you from”?

    “Belgium” he says.

    I say I want to bomb the fuck out of Brussels and the EU.

    He scuttles off.

  186. C.L.

    Cardinal George Pell has emerged as a mystery guest who dined at a lavish Rome restaurant with embattled US environmental chief Scott Pruitt to secretly plan a public debate challenging climate change.

    Wow. What a scandal. They were organising a debate.
    Meanwhile, Robert Mueller’s right-hand man, the Attorney-General of New York, was secretly organising black women to beat up in his personal dungeon.

    The key words in that par (for the uninitiated) are mystery, lavish, embattled, secretly and challenging. Here is the par without them:

    Cardinal George Pell dined at a Rome restaurant with US environmental chief Scott Pruitt to plan a public debate about climate change.

    Two blokes had dinner to plan a public debate. At best, a news-in-brief par for the sidebar on page 11.

  187. twostix

    uk Proposes Six Year Prison Sentences for Online Posts Against Religion, Transgender

    Tredeau is to be the friendly face for the anti-counter revolution efforts, but make no mistake these are their weapons.

  188. egg_

    As do we all.

    Seagulls ending up as fish food?

  189. Steve trickler.

    Jean-Claude Juncker and Pol Pot, sit down for coffee. And talk about the statue of Karl Marx. Subtle music plays in the background.



  190. OneWorldGovernment

    DrBeauGan
    #2709460, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2709452, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:02 pm
    Prominent Muslims in Sweden are now demanding that the Islamic call to prayer be broadcast throughout the country after it was allowed in the city of Växjö.

    Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting.

    you are a filthy scum beau fuck.

    a subtle troll.

    There is no way that Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting and if that is what you as the master troll believe then I will start to track you down.

    You are worse than googeley so you are the master troll.

    You even abuse some fiction person.

    Fuck off

  191. Some History

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

    Ohh…… NO

    https://imgur.com/hkXdnN9

  192. zyconoclast

    About Cr Julian SIMMONDS
    Julian SIMMONDS was elected to represent the residents of Walter Taylor Ward in Council at a by-election in October 2010, and again in April 2012 and March 2016.

    Julian has a long association with Walter Taylor Ward and is committed to ensuring the area remains a wonderful place to live and raise a family. His priorities include reducing traffic congestion in local streets and improving public transport. He is also working with the community to ensure they have a say in local neighbourhood planning.

    Julian is involved in a number of local community and sporting groups. He is active in the community, undertaking regular Meals on Wheels runs and participating in local creek revegetation.

    Prior to being elected to Council, Julian worked as a policy advisor for Public and Active Transport and Economic Development. He holds a Bachelor of Arts and a Masters Degree in Journalism.

    In 2011, Julian was appointed to Civic Cabinet as Chairman for Public and Active Transport, and again following the 2012 Council Election, as Chairman of the Finance, Economic Development and Administration Committee.

    Following his re-election in 2016, Julian was re-appointed to Civic Cabinet with a new portfolio as Chairman of City Planning. His responsibilities include planning for the sustainable development of Brisbane to ensure economic prosperity, a healthy ecology and ensuring a quality of life where Brisbane residents will want to live and work.

    No mention of reducing the cost of rates.

  193. Some History

    Justin Trudeau was an attractive girl in his youth:

    https://imgur.com/chxDY05

  194. Infidel Tiger

    The Supreme Leader of Iran cites Les Misérables as the best novel ever written. Donald Trump’s choice would probably be nothing. Doesn’t read, as even his advisors note.

    Art Of The Deal shits all over it.

  195. zyconoclast

    Justin Trudeau was an attractive girl in his youth:

    You mean an unattractive* tranny

    * no such thing as an attractive tranny.

  196. jupes

    There is no way that Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting and if that is what you as the master troll believe then I will start to track you down.

    Well I believe Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting so I must be a master troll too.

    I live in Perth OWG, so there’s a head start for tracking me down.

    Looking forward to the catch-up.

  197. Shy Ted

    The HuffPost is always good for a laugh – a headline: HuffPost: Women Would Rather Have Sex with a Fish Than a Man. In real life, men would rather fish than have sex with a woman.
    But if you’re a fish and you’ve gotta die I can’t think of a better way to go

    http://www.kimdutoit.com/2018/05/10/fishy

  198. egg_

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau hopes the G7 will step up to fight extreme nationalism

    The irony of the only two Frog speaking provinces in North America must escape him.

  199. Some History

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
    Ohh…… NO

    Lateral view under x-ray

    https://imgur.com/wldB7aY

  200. Confused Old Misfit

    Some History
    #2709479, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin FitzTrudeau?

  201. Infidel Tiger

    Saw a bloke walk in to where I was sitting having a quiet time.

    He kept staring at me with crazy eyes.

    He gets up and comes to me as I’m sitting and says “where you from”.

    I stand up, I’m about 6 inches taller, and say Australia.

    I then ask, “where you from”?

    “Belgium” he says.

    I say I want to bomb the fuck out of Brussels and the EU.

    He scuttles off.

    I come from a Land Down Under.

  202. DrBeauGan

    Jupes, I think OWG has a medical condition which has him in almost permanent pain, which explains why he is always drunk by this time of an evening. Also, he’s thick.

    We should treat him with kindness.

  203. pete m

    OWG, the doomlord does not tolerate those who make personal threats to “track” down other posters. If you want to still have privileges here don’t be silly like that.

  204. Some History

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin FitzTrudeau?

    Plenty of similarities between Just-in and Fritz. The only major difference is that Just-in isn’t a poyret. He’s a jolly musketeer:

    https://imgur.com/JfQal01

  205. twostix

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

    The also infiltrate all of the civilian security jobs.

    Imagine going to an vintage air show celebrating australian history and having to line open your bag for one of a couple of arab muslims to inspect before you’re allowed in.

  206. twostix
    #2709473, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:23 pm
    uk Proposes Six Year Prison Sentences for Online Posts Against Religion, Transgender

    Tredeau is to be the friendly face for the anti-counter revolution efforts, but make no mistake these are their weapons.

    In the UK, you can get a police caution for assault, but six years for a blog post!

  207. Confused Old Misfit

    Some History
    #2709493, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin FitzTrudeau?

    Plenty of similarities between Just-in and Fritz. The only major difference is that Just-in isn’t a poyret. He’s a jolly musketeer:

    When I consider that my three sisters voted for that idiot I cringe in shame.

  208. OneWorldGovernment

    jupes
    #2709484, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    There is no way that Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting and if that is what you as the master troll believe then I will start to track you down.

    Well I believe Sweden deserves everything it’s going to be getting so I must be a master troll too.

    I live in Perth OWG, so there’s a head start for tracking me down.

    Looking forward to the catch-up.

    You dim wit.

    So, do you believe that Australia deserves everything it’s going to be getting?

    The Swedish people are fucked by their scum elite.

    Australia should just burn down Canberra and let the UN just be overtly in control.

    Jupes, I lived in Perth for about 6 years.

    Track me down you dick head beaugan.

    Tell me what country I live in smart arse.

  209. egg_

    (Seagull is likely unaware that herod is blairite bloggy’s nom de plume)

  210. DrBeauGan

    pete m
    #2709492, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:52 pm
    OWG, the doomlord does not tolerate those who make personal threats to “track” down other posters. If you want to still have privileges here don’t be silly like that.

    Pete, I don’t think he’s got the brains to track down a good red in a bottle shop, so I’m not exactly trembling in fear. Anyway, it’s the booze talking.

  211. egg_

    Plenty of similarities between Just-in and Fritz.

    At least, Fitzy has the sense to only dress as a pirate and not a swami (yet).

  212. Oh come on

    They’re kidding right?

    I dunno.

    The exchange as played out in the news basically went something like:

    Family: please don’t prematurely speculate who did what.

    WA premier: the old man killed them.

    Classy stuff.

  213. OneWorldGovernment

    pete m
    #2709492, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    OWG, the doomlord does not tolerate those who make personal threats to “track” down other posters. If you want to still have privileges here don’t be silly like that.

    pete m

    I was invited to track jupes down and I offered for him to track me down.

    beaugan is the lord of the socks.

  214. Some History

    At least, Fitzy has the sense to only dress as a pirate and not a swami (yet).

    You’re right, Egg:

    https://imgur.com/AXNFxBJ

  215. Oh come on

    which explains why he is always drunk by this time of an evening.

    You noticed too? The major issue is the denial. He won’t get help if he doesn’t even recognise he has a problem.

    During the day, before he’s started hitting the bottle, he can be quite reasonable.

  216. egg_

    Some History
    #2709506, posted on May 12, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Albino swami?
    Whiter than the Beatles.

  217. Oh come on

    Say, where’s MV got to? Hope the old bugger’s okay.

  218. OneWorldGovernment

    DrBeauGan
    #2709501, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    pete m
    #2709492, posted on May 12, 2018 at 9:52 pm
    OWG, the doomlord does not tolerate those who make personal threats to “track” down other posters. If you want to still have privileges here don’t be silly like that.

    Pete, I don’t think he’s got the brains to track down a good red in a bottle shop, so I’m not exactly trembling in fear. Anyway, it’s the booze talking.

    Would that be an Aldi bottle shop bogan?

  219. DrBeauGan

    During the day, before he’s started hitting the bottle, he can be quite reasonable.

    Yes, I’ve noticed that too. But constant pain, even low level, can be very wearing. I feel sorry for the poor muddled bugger.

  220. Oh come on

    Yeah that didn’t really hit home.

    Awkward.

  221. Geriatric Mayfly

    Say, where’s MV got to? Hope the old bugger’s okay.

    Ditto Mike of Marion, who announced health strife some time ago.

  222. jupes

    Tell me what country I live in smart arse.

    Lala Land.

  223. OneWorldGovernment

    where is spiky bogon?

  224. Oh come on

    Here’s the thing. There have been one or two times when I’ve posted late at night completely trashed, and others might well have noticed. There have been several other times I’ve posted late at night pretty drunk, but I highly doubt others would have noticed.

    OTOH, every single night OWG posts, he’s obviously absolutely blotto. And if he isn’t, I’d say that’s an even bigger problem for him because he sure as hell seems like he is.

  225. OneWorldGovernment

    jupes
    #2709514, posted on May 12, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    Tell me what country I live in smart arse.

    Lala Land.

    So you love being shafted in Australia.

    Good to know.

  226. Oh come on

    Spiky bogon? Bad poetry extraordinaire?

  227. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2709517, posted on May 12, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Here’s the thing. There have been one or two times when I’ve posted late at night completely trashed, and others might well have noticed. There have been several other times I’ve posted late at night pretty drunk, but I highly doubt others would have noticed.

    OTOH, every single night OWG posts, he’s obviously absolutely blotto. And if he isn’t, I’d say that’s an even bigger problem for him because he sure as hell seems like he is.

    So you are a piss head and cannot understand someone who is not a pisshead like you.

    Good to know.

  228. Infidel Tiger

    Tell me what country I live in smart arse.

    Liquorland.

  229. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Share your pain OWG

  230. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2709519, posted on May 12, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    Spiky bogon? Bad poetry extraordinaire?

    Sad.

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