Good thing ALP’s candidate vetting systems are sound – PART 2

Following on the High Court’s decision of last week, reconfirming it’s decision of earlier this year, a number of ALP MPs and a Senator resigned from Parliament.  Despite the ALP’s protestations that this was a new policy from the High Court it was not.

In true political style, the ALP deflected responsibility and  poured a bucked on it’s legal advisors.  Coincidentally and unusually, Shadow Attorney General Dreyfus has not been heard from of late.

It is possible that the Hon Mr Dreyfus QC has been in Western Australia offering legal advice to Barry Urban.   Urban has been caught again embellishing his experiences and qualifications.

In 2017, Urban admitted to not having a Diploma of Local Government (whatever the hell that is).  Notwithstanding, Urban was permitted to stand at the recent WA state election and was reelected.  But last week:

West Australian MP Barry Urban will reportedly quit politics after admitting he wore a police overseas service medal he was not entitled to and lied about a diploma, triggering another by-election in the state.

The Diploma was old news.  The police medal issue was new.

So it is clear that the ALP absolutely positively has world class candidate vetting systems.

Sparty wonders what Milton Orkopolous is doing nowadays.  Having failed on his first attempt at parole, he was eligible to reapply in January 2018.

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41 Responses to Good thing ALP’s candidate vetting systems are sound – PART 2

  1. Mak Siccar

    Whatever it takes, Sparty. Never forget that.

  2. Dr Fred Lenin

    So Orkopolous is still alive Surprised one of the honest criminals hasn’t shanked him yet the boys in clink don’t like rock spiders .

  3. Shy Ted

    Hon Mr Dreyfus QC
    I know what the C stands for but what is the Q?

  4. Dr Fred Lenin

    Wonder what they woukd get without the rigorous vetting ? This is vetting as in animal vet ? Perhaps that might keep the illegals away .

  5. Bruce

    It’s Worst Australia. As they stamped on their numberplates for years; “State of Excrement”, or somesuch.

    What do people expect; VICTORIAN levels of probity?

  6. stackja

    Disgraced MP Milton Orkopoulos’ letters from jail: What life is like for him behind bars
    AVA BENNY-MORRISON, crime reporter, The Sunday Telegraph
    March 11, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    A PAINFUL recovery from a jail bashing, whingeing about an inmate’s accent, pronouncements on Malcolm Turnbull’s future and bitching about the endless wait to join a sex-offender rehabilitation program — life behind bars for former politician and [email protected] Milton Orkopoulos has been revealed in a ­series of intimate letters.

    They include fond ­exchanges with a former high-profile inmate which are signed off “Love, Milly”.

    Orkopoulos is now 60. Long Bay prison is his home and his next parole review date isn’t listed until January next year. He is almost a decade into a 14-year sentence.

  7. Percy Porcelain

    Despite the ALP’s protestations that this was a new policy from the High Court

    Yeah, right. Staggeringly stupid legal collectivists can rewrite the law whenever they like – as long as the rewriting is in their favour. In a just world, Dolly would have been found to be in “contempt of Court”, for those musings.

    BTW, Courts don’t have “policies”, they have “(mis)interpretations”.

  8. Percy Porcelain

    a Diploma of Local Government

    Local Gubberment can:

    – “Inspect” your garbage
    – Prosecute you for pruning/removing trees
    – Delay your minor house improvements for years
    – Then charge you shedloads for making those improvements
    – Dictate what colour paints you can use on your house

    And generally be incredibly annoying, expensive, intrusive, anally retentive imbeciles who really hate Joos*.

    *See al-Mariqville Council, for example, before it was amalgamated out of existence.

  9. Neville

    The urban myth has been a source of endless hilarity and some not-so-subtle contempt over here in the west. Talking to people about him from time to time, I’ve invariably got the response to the effect of: “he’s a twisted Walter Mitty-style pissant that lies like lino floor.

  10. Percy Porcelain

    Ooops – forgot to mention that Local Gubberment is also a haven for lazy corrupt incompetent z-grade third world imbeciles (BIRM) who should never have been allowed into this absolute joke of a country in the first place.

    See Auburnon, Strathfield and Darebin councils for examples.

  11. Rod Corby

    Like your work but do watch the possessive apostrophes.

    For example: ” . . . bucked on it’s legal advisors . . . ” It’s ONLY EVER means “it is”.

  12. Boris

    Urban medal is a very old news. News from the west do travel THAT slow ?

  13. Boris

    I am in the camp of people who think that the high court is just laughing at the stupidity of this article of the constitution. It makes Australia more of a joke than it really is. But then maybe not.

    Disqualifying people for the right of citizenship they did not know they had.

  14. Texas Jack

    Think we need another royal commish. Investigate how all these Labor people managed to snag twelve cushy months coin on the public purse. I mean, since we now live in a zero mistake country, where nobody ever gets killed on a motorway, nobody dies under the surgeons knife, and where nobody ever gets dudded or sold shit they don’t need when they walk into a bank. That stuff can’t happen anymore, so why’s the ALP getting away with fraud?

  15. nemkat

    Disqualifying people for the right of citizenship they did not know they had.

    You’ve only got their word on that, and what’s that worth?

    According to The Constitution, and supported by the High Court, it’s worth fuck all.

  16. iain russell

    Wonderful to see Uncle Milty being referenced in these posts. For a Who’s Who of The Filth behind bars, please go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. Being a shonk, crook or kiddy fiddler seems to be a prereq for ALP preselek.

  17. Boris

    You’ve only got their word on that, and what’s that worth?

    That is not really the point. To think that people whose parents came here as children from the UK or NZ when these were not even separate countries have less right to be elected than some recent immigrant from Egypt, China or Sudan (who renounced their citizenship) is preposterous. I know that is what the constitution says, or how it is interpreted, but it is pretty hilarious.

  18. Disqualifying people for the right of citizenship they did not know they had.

    Bollocks Boris.

    The court is doing what it should do. Apply the law and not make law.

    Section 44 is pretty clear on the subject as are prior High Court decisions. Clearly the parties were aware but sloppy and careless. So Spartacus’ view is to tell them to drop dead as they have told Australia.

    If they want the Commcars and the big $$$ and the endless expense accounts and the postal allowance and the staff and the car for private use, then DO THE WORK and prove your bona fides.

    If this goes to referendum, Sparty’s prediction, it will go down.

  19. candy

    Kind of ironic that this all started when some Lefty/Greenie types – some lawyer and I think Di Natale and also D. Hinch, wanted to bring Tony Abbott down as they believed and still do, that he is a dual citizen. The ABC still thinks that.

    Out of spite and sheer nastiness, it started, and is leading to the downfall of their own.

  20. nemkat

    What’s hilarious about it?
    What is hilarious is your implication that First Fleeters should have seniority, over Second Fleeters, right down to some Sudanese who got naturalised yesterday.

    Here’s some news for you:
    Britain is unrecognisable from the Country it was in 1945, and the same goes for New Zealand.
    In 117 years, there are probably less than 5,000 people ever elected to Federal Parliament.
    The Nomination Form tells the prospective Candidate what Section 44 means.

    Anyone who is too stupid, lazy or arrogant [Josh Frydenburg, Anne Aly, Susan Lamb] to meet S44 shouldn’t be in Parliament anyway.

  21. nemkat

    Candy:
    e Perth lawyer who initiated things applied to the U.K. Home Office for a Renunciation of National Identity [RNI] for Anthony John Abbott and Julia Eileen Gillard, and the reply he got was that there wasn’t any regarding those 2.
    As he said in a Weekend The Australian last year, he can’t afford to bring the issue before the High Court, because he couldn’t afford to lose and have costs awarded against him.
    Costs in the recent referrals came to $11 Mil.+

    It’s disturbing that so many Parliamentarians rate Australian Citizenship so lowly, but maybe they know something we don’t.

  22. BorisG

    Britain is unrecognisable from the Country it was in 1945, and the same goes for New Zealand.

    that is not the point. A person who lived their entire life in Australia and never took up foreign citizenship or passport should not be questioned on their loyalty.

  23. BorisG

    If this goes to referendum, Sparty’s prediction, it will go down.

    Quite possibly, but it does not make it any less of a joke.

  24. Leo G

    I am in the camp of people who think that the high court is just laughing at the stupidity of this article of the constitution.

    Why would a High Court judge laugh at the requirement that Australian parliamentarians be subjects of the successor of Queen Victoria in the sovereignty of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (a sovereignty which no longer exists)?

  25. egg_

    If this goes to referendum, Sparty’s prediction, it will go down.

    +1

    Hence, the pollies are trying their best to ignore it.

  26. egg_

    If this goes to referendum, Sparty’s prediction, it will go down.

    Quite possibly, but it does not make it any less of a joke.

    The great unwashed of the Democracy?

  27. nemkat

    A person who lived their entire life in Australia and never took up foreign citizenship or passport should not be questioned on their loyalty.

    They aren’t being questioned on their loyalty.
    People who want to make Australia’s Laws are required to show proof that they have no entitlement to foreign citizenship.
    A miniscule percentage may be unable to provide that proof.

    Stiff cheddar.
    They can’t sit in Federal Parliament.
    A much larger number may be unprepared to ditch their foreign Entitlement for the fleeting chance of being elected.

    Solution: Don’t be a Candidate. Keep your Foreign Citizenship, or the Entitlement to claim it.

  28. Boris

    The great unwashed of the Democracy?

    I respect the majority view but it would be strange to always agree with it.

  29. struth

    Constitutional muffinheads.

  30. Mark A

    Boris
    #2710068, posted on May 13, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    You’ve only got their word on that, and what’s that worth?

    That is not really the point. To think that people whose parents came here as children from the UK or NZ when these were not even separate countries have less right to be elected than some recent immigrant from Egypt, China or Sudan (who renounced their citizenship) is preposterous. I know that is what the constitution says, or how it is interpreted, but it is pretty hilarious.

    I knew there are things we can agree on Boris,
    Our family has been here since the mid 1800s, from Folkestone Kent, if by some quirk of legal loophole some of us could qualify as British citizen, doubtful, could we be barred from entering federal politics, while someone whom you mentioned can?

  31. nemkat

    Easy solution, if you’re fair dinkum.

    Renounce your British Citizenship, so you’re in the clear to stand for Federal Parliament.
    Alternatively, you can stand for the State Governments and Territories, and any of the thousands of Local Governments, and it wouldn’t matter if you retained your Alien Citizenship.

  32. Cassie of Sydney

    “Out of spite and sheer nastiness, it started, and is leading to the downfall of their own”. Yes Candy, it is always, always the way with the left, look at what happened last week with Eric Schneiderman in the US. The thing is that the left can’t help themselves, they are so consumed with their own narcissism, moral superiority and righteousness that they simply cannot fathom that “chickens come home to roost”. I am enjoying the spectacle particularly this week when I really enjoyed seeing that perpetual liar and sexual deviant….aka Bill Shitten, shit in his pants when the High Court ruling came down.

  33. Dr Fred Lenin

    It’s not fair to the wukkas pardee. The high court changed the constitution to attack us ,same with our gangrene comrades ,just youse wait till bill gets in , the regime change will be great for our welfareist supporters and the welfarists we are importing to change the voting patterns , bill will become Maximum Leader for life .

  34. Up The Workers!

    All A.L.P. candidates should be vetted – so that they can never breed.

    At its simplest, I hear that two well-wielded bricks will suffice (it only hurts if you forget to move your thumbs out of the way).

  35. Tel

    I am in the camp of people who think that the high court is just laughing at the stupidity of this article of the constitution. It makes Australia more of a joke than it really is. But then maybe not.

    The job of the court is to follow the law, no more and no less.

    If you think the Constitution of Australia should be changed, there’s a procedure for that, by all means campaign for change as you see fit. Don’t expect courts to do a dirty backdoor legislation on your behalf.

  36. amortiser

    Most of the S44 problems arise from the desire of the ALP and the left to deny and destroy the cultural heritage of the country. Up until the 1980s IIRC there was no problem with a British subject nominating or even voting in Federal elections. The antipathy of the left and the ALP to our British heritage resulted in changes to citizenship which is now biting many of these people.

    Another example of being careful what you wish for.

  37. Rob MW

    that is not the point. A person who lived their entire life in Australia and never took up foreign citizenship or passport should not be questioned on their loyalty.

    Lol…..Shit Boris I have a question. Loyalty to what, stupidity, ideology, rules for radicals, the ABC, village idiots, corrupt personal gain, globalism, socialism, communism, or this is Australia mate…….. what ?

  38. hzhousewife

    The antipathy of the left and the ALP to our British heritage resulted in changes to citizenship which is now biting many of these people.

    Labor needs to make that cleat to the the Poms who come here and decide they want to stand for our Federal Parliament then.

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