This year in Jerusalem

 

The American embassy, that is. And for some background, this is fascinating: How Harry Truman Crossed His Own State Department to Recognize Israel. One of the few businessmen to have been an American president. Read it through. The Deep State has a long history.

And then there’s this from Instapundit.

THE STRATEGIC CASE FOR MOVING THE U.S. EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM IS VERY SIMPLE: Since Oslo in 1993, Israel has allowed Palestinian terrorists to set up a government in Ramallah, made three peace offers within internationally-accepted parameters, withdrawn from Gaza and parts of Samaria, suffered an intifadah, and in return has gotten… a worldwide Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions campaign? The Palestinians have believed that they could win by stalling, waiting until the world’s impatience forced Israel to concede. Moving the U.S. Embassy without a peace agreement demonstrates to the Palestinians that things can and will move on without them, as do the growing ties between Israel and the Sunni powers. Either accept that Israel is here to stay and make the necessary accommodations, or be left in the dustbin of history.

 

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25 Responses to This year in Jerusalem

  1. Garry

    Go Israel. Note the ABC getting doe eyed and pious while pretending to present the facts as Israel defends itself from the freedom sackers.

  2. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    islam as a whole will inevitably go in the dustbin of history

  3. Flyingduk

    Amen to that…..we could end a lot of national and international conflict by letting go of past ‘injustices’ done to other people, by other people, both long dead (think: slavery in the US, the effect of colonisation on Australian aboriginals, etc etc) instead of gifting them to our children like the unexploded bombs that they are.

  4. mh

    Moving the U.S. Embassy without a peace agreement demonstrates to the Palestinians that things can and will move on without them, as do the growing ties between Israel and the Sunni powers. Either accept that Israel is here to stay and make the necessary accommodations, or be left in the dustbin of history.

    Australia’s embassy should be moved to Jerusalem.

  5. Cassie of Sydney

    Go Israel, I am so happy. As for the ABC filth, it is a disgrace. The Australian is not much better, its current headline is “US embassy sparks bloodshed”. I would have thought that it should be “Hamas sparks bloodshed” but I guess that would require the media to report the truth

  6. Cassie of Sydney

    “islam as a whole will inevitably go in the dustbin of history”. One can only hope however it will take a lot of innocent lives with it.

  7. JohnA

    Read it through. The Deep State has a long history.

    See this:

    Having failed to persuade the world organization to desist from this move, and faced with the president’s own support for partition, the State Department colluded with the British foreign ministry [Foreign & Commonwealth Office?] to slash the territory of the prospective Jewish state by depriving it of the Negev desert—nearly half of Palestine’s total size. It was only Truman’s last-minute intervention, after a dramatic secret meeting with Chaim Weizmann (who 30 years earlier had been the driving force behind the Balfour Declaration) that nipped the plot in the bud.

    Reminds me of the truth exposed in Yes, Prime Minister about Foreign Office support for the Arabs and their oil (which should have ceased when the North Sea reserves were discovered).

  8. Kneel

    “Note the ABC getting doe eyed and pious while pretending to present the facts…”

    Yeah. “Non-violent” Palestinian protests, they said.
    A-hem.
    So setting fire to tyres and having toxic smoke drift over the “enemies” territory is “non-violent”, eh?
    Chemical warfare, anyone?

    They complained the Israeli’s shot protesters in the legs – good work guys. Protest about that enough, they might target heads instead…. idiots.

    Perhaps “innocent” Palestinians shouldn’t be used as human shields either, eh?

    And, of course, we all know that were Israel not existing, there would never be any sort of conflict between “Arab brothers”, right?

    My solution: build a HUUUGE fence around the whole lot of ’em, and tell ’em they ain’t coming out until it’s sorted – no-one and nothing in or out until it’s over. Wanna act like a spoilt brat, then you can be treated like one.

  9. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld

    I am totally with Cassie re the Australian etc. haven’t watched or listened to their AlpBC in years but can totally imagine the rubbish. Why shouldn’t Israel have their ancestral capital recognised? I applaud President Trump for his efforts in bringing the US embassy to Jerusalem, our very leftist Australian government should be doing the same. An extremely historic day for Israel and I congratulate them.
    It is a pity that the Muslims next door continue the riots, attacks and attempts to bomb the wall to get inside and destroy everything as they do pretty much everywhere they are in numbers. By the way, on the issue of the Palestinians, a search reveals that those who hold passports actually have Jordanians ones. Makes you wonder if they are actually acknowledged as citizens of that country and the whole Palestinian thing is just a land grab.

  10. Tel

    To be honest, I can’t see why this is such a big deal, and since I’m very representative of the average punter, I doubt many other people can understand what makes it so special. It’s an embassy so it only exists by invitation of the national government where that embassy sits. I would have thought the Israeli government just says, “Hey, build your embassy over there”. Job’s done, leave it at that.

    I also think that the overblown protests over such a trivial issue are unlikely to impress anyone. All the monotheistic religions think this city was given to them personally by God, all of them base that claim upon historic conquest by military force, so I guess if God was deeply upset by the embassy being there then God would have moved it already. Clearly God is content with leaving us to sort it out, so then you have to decide how much effort you care to put into fighting over this. I’m kind of sick of it where the biggest, loudest, complainer thinks they deserve a prize.

  11. stevem

    The Guardian had two articles up discussing the violence over night in the Middle East. The first laid the blame at the feet of Donald Trump for moving the embassy, except the last paragraph that mentions that this week is the 70th anniversary of the creation of Israel that led to many Muslims fleeing to Palestine. The second (no longer given prominence) examines the violence as a result of Hamas stirring up passions over the 70th anniversary and points out that the majority of the violence was 50km+ away from the US embassy.
    Guardian readers likes the anti Trump article more 36909:1542 despite (or because of) the complete lack of facts or analysis of the issue.

  12. Chris M

    Well this was Obama’s policy also. And Clintons. So what’s the problem? Donald is just implementing long standing US policy. Barry should congratulate him.

    As for these poor stupid souls dying in the violent protests, deceived by the Devil and driven by demons. That is to say devoted Moslems.

  13. Roger

    That idiot Turnbull has described the deaths as “tragic”.

    Israel has a right to police its borders yet has gone to great lengths to discourage protests and prevent any deaths so it didn’t have to assert its sovereignty with lethal force.

    The responsibility lies with Hamas, who manipulate Gazans into acting against their best interests and placing themselves in danger.

    And whose side do our politicians and press largely take? Hamas.

  14. Bushkid

    Tel
    #2711244, posted on May 15, 2018 at 12:23 pm…..
    I’m kind of sick of it where the biggest, loudest, complainer thinks they deserve a prize.

    +1,000 Tel!

  15. Zatara

    Australia won’t follow Trump’s move to relocate embassy to Jerusalem: Bishop

    The US president’s administration has overturned decades of American policy and will begin the process of moving its embassy from Tel Aviv, but Ms Julie Bishop insists Australia does not support the plan.

    Hogwash is one thing, a flat out lie is another.

    The US Congress passed their Jerusalem Embassy Act in 1995 with a vote of 374-37 in the House and 93-5 in the Senate. You couldn’t get that kind of approval to certify that water is wet in the US system.

    EveryUS President since then has promised to move the embassy. Trump kept his.

  16. Cassie of Sydney

    It is worth noting that from 1948 to 1967 Jordan controlled East Jerusalem and the Old City, including the Jewish quarter. Whilst under Jordanian Hashemite rule there was never any mention of “Palestine” or “Palestinian sovereignty” over Jerusalem. Jordan NEVER made Jerusalem its capital city. Oh and whilst under Jordanian control from 1948 to 1967, Jews were denied access to the Western Wall, all but 1 of the 35 synagogues in the Old City were destroyed, Torah scrolls were desecrated and the Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives was completely destroyed. The Palestinian Arabs don’t give a toss about Jerusalem or it being holy to 3 faiths, they only care and rage because Israel has possession of it. They are hypocrites.

  17. The Palestine situation would have been solved long ago if not for the Israel hating Europeans.
    In fact, most of the World’s ills would be solved if not for the Europeans. So I have a solution.

    Give civilians 3 hour notice to vacate, then bomb the shit out of the EU Parliament in Brussells, followed by the parliaments in Berlin and Paris.
    Then destroy their military bases ( this will take 10 minutes, give or take) and tell the Europeans to sit this century out. They did enough damage in the 20th C.

  18. calli

    Australia won’t follow Trump’s move to relocate embassy to Jerusalem: Bishop

    Makes me proud to be an Aussie. Not.

    If only bag o’ bones could be relocated to the unemployment line. Pronto.

  19. thefrolickingmole

    its current headline is “US embassy sparks bloodshed”. I would have thought that it should be “Hamas sparks bloodshed” but I guess that would require the media to report the truth

    It would also require a steady supply of ABC people willing to be killed if they reported the thug state behind the Pallis.

    Dont toe the line in Hamas-ville and see how far your press freedom gets you.

  20. egg_

    Who was the babe conducting the ceremony?
    The frightbats will spew bile.

  21. Egor

    50,000 Arab “demonstrators” instructed by Hamas to break down the Israeli border wall, to get in and kill Jews.
    Getting shot is not compulsory if you desist.
    Nothing particularly unusual or complicated about that.

  22. Egor

    50,000 Arab “demonstrators” instructed by Hamas to break down the Israeli border wall, to get in and terminate Israelis.
    Getting shot is not compulsory if you desist.
    Nothing particularly unusual or complicated about that.

  23. will

    egg_
    #2711745, posted on May 15, 2018 at 11:04 pm
    Who was the babe conducting the ceremony?
    The frightbats will spew bile.

    was that rhetorical?

    It was, of course, Ivanka Trump

  24. BorisG

    I also think that the overblown protests over such a trivial issue are unlikely to impress anyone.

    Not sure. It often happens that protests arise over a minute issue (much smaller still than this small one) and blow out of all proportions (and actually cause major upheavals). Hope it will not be the case here.

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