Wednesday Forum: May 16, 2018

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  1. Carpe Jugulum

    Winnah, how good was that

  2. Carpe Jugulum

    Mmmmmm

    New car smell

  3. Percy Porcelain

    Checking in and keen to hear how easy it is to influence a jury in this mighty digital age.

  4. Roger

    A suggestion for a liberty quote:

    “Publicity is the very soul of justice. It is the keenest spur to exertion, and the surest of all guards against improbity. It keeps the judge himself, while trying, under trial.

    In the darkness of secrecy, sinister interest and evil in every shape, have full swing. Only in proportion as publicity has place can any of the checks, applicable to judicial injustice, operate. Where there is no publicity there is no justice.”

    Jeremy Bentham

  5. Myrddin Seren

    Thread Carpe ?

    May anyone join ??

  6. Carpe Jugulum

    Thread Carpe ?

    May anyone join ??

    Please feel free to join in 😁

  7. Leigh Lowe

    Nice new fred you got ‘ere.
    Pity if sumfink was to ‘appen to it.
    No wha’ I mean.

  8. nemkat

    Jeremy Bentham

    Bit of a forerunner to Communism, wasn’t he?

    Personally, i want Archbishop Pell to receive the fairest Trial anyone’s ever got in Australia, and if that means a Suppression Order is necessary, then it’s a small price to pay.
    IMHO.

  9. herodotus

    The Stefan Halper case.
    Deep state, very deep swamp.
    American Thinker

  10. calli

    Greetings from Dubai.

    First impression – no litter. None.

  11. thefrolickingmole

    Troll on the Avenue
    Troll on the avenue, they’re trying to get you in,
    Commenting by with their idiotic trys,
    They’re all depressed and ill, taking mummies pills,
    Commenting your way with their hair on fire;
    But don’t you slip don’t you slip
    And comment with the troll on the avenue

  12. woolfe

    multiple posts in top 10 don’t count, waaaaaa.

  13. woolfe

    And no Jooooooes calli.

  14. H B Bear

    The CFMEU have suggested it is in our interest to abandon the old thread?

  15. Percy Porcelain

    I was almost involved in a regrettable incident near Central station (again) this morning. Walking into Belmore Park after crossing Eddy Ave I was about to walk past a young woman and a shambling young asian guy who looked like your classic geek. Noticed that the woman was aggressively challenging the asian guy accusing him of being blind and screeching about him invading her space – he replied “I walk, that’s what I do” and then bumped into her – which was when the screaming commenced. It was so loud it caused my ears to ring.

    I should have asked the silly bint if she was a fan of multiculturalism and mass immigration.

  16. stackja

    thefrolickingmole
    #2712075, posted on May 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    Like a child at big store windows you feel confused
    So many trolls on the avenue.

  17. calli

    Off on a half-day tour, with the rest of the afternoon shopping at the big mall by the Burge. It looks like rain, which is unheard off – saw three or four drops on the pool.

    Second observation – the aircon is waaaaaay too low. Everywhere, including vehicles.

  18. Barry

    The Stefan Halper case.
    Deep state, very deep swamp.
    American Thinker

    And Alexander Downer in the middle of it.

  19. John Constantine

    The easiest way to boost capacity on public transport is for everybody to stand up and get packed in like do in Asia.

    Big Australia, with megacities of twenty millions means high density, as championed by their turnbullites.

    Pack the train carriages to the most efficient capacity and yarragrad can really shuffle tonnes more proles around per hour, without any extra spending.

    Comrades.

  20. OldOzzie

    Could have been written for Australia other than Nuclear and Gas Fracking bringing down prices

    Who Turned Off the Lights?

    The amazing shale oil and gas revolution is providing Americans with cheap gas for home heating and power generation. Hooray. The price of natural gas has fallen by nearly two-thirds over the last decade, and this has put enormous price pressure on other forms of power generation.

    But this is not a free-market story of Schumpeterian creative destruction. If it were, then wind and solar power would have been shut down years ago. They can’t possibly compete on a level playing field with $3 natural gas.

    When our manufacturers, schools, hospitals and internet shut down, we’re not going to think wind and solar power are so chic.

    If the lights start to go out five or 10 years from now, we will look back at what is happening today and wonder how we could have been so darn stupid.

  21. egg_

    Checking in and keen to hear how easy it is to influence a jury in this mighty digital age.

    Yes, some seem to be preoccupied with digital penetration.

  22. calli

    Burj. Just looked it up.

    The jewellers here are all Indian. We got a 24 hour turnaround for the piece I designed. Meant leaving my wedding and engagement rings with them, which makes me feel bereft. There was a bit of a smile when they saw the meagre diamonds on the ring – it cost the Beloved two month’s pay back in the day.

    But I love them dearly. They are “old cut” which makes me feel like Methusela. 🙂

  23. egg_

    was about to walk past a young woman and a shambling young asian guy who looked like your classic geek. Noticed that the woman was aggressively challenging the asian guy accusing him of being blind and screeching about him invading her space – he replied “I walk, that’s what I do” and then bumped into her – which was when the screaming commenced.

    Asian autist meets harridan?
    That clusterfvck is worth double bonus points.

  24. Percy Porcelain

    If the lights start to go out five or 10 years from now, we will look back at what is happening today and wonder how we could have been so darn stupid.

    Who is “we” of whom you speak, Kemosabe?

  25. Speedbox

    I presume you’re working Calli. To early to be up for tourism purposes.

  26. calli

    calli
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #2712090, posted on May 16, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    Burj. Just looked it up.

    The j-wellers here are all Indian. We got a 24 hour turnaround for the piece I designed. Meant leaving my wedding and engagement rings with them, which makes me feel bereft. There was a bit of a smile when they saw the meagre diamonds on the ring – it cost the Beloved two month’s pay back in the day.

    But I love them dearly. They are “old cut” which makes me feel like Methusela.

    Lol. Birdword.

  27. Percy Porcelain

    Asian autist meets harridan?

    Indeed, it was classic example of the wonders of multiculturalism.

    I gave both of them a very wide berth. My ears have also finally stopped ringing.

  28. thefrolickingmole

    Research shows Monty is harming people??
    https://www.city-journal.org/html/dont-bet-it-15906.html
    Im actually going to defend montsy work here

    Similarly, fantasy sports betting took off when operators ditched the traditional format, in which players competed against one another in leagues that lasted a whole season, and transitioned to instant games that take place over the course of a single day or weekend. That was a calculated move, based on research on how to attract and keep bettors. Sports betting may take us further down these paths, especially since it has such appeal to young men. Early research suggests that teens who start betting on fantasy sports are far more likely to graduate to other forms of sports betting and more likely to develop gambling problems than the average teenager.

    Sports betting as a gateway drug to becoming a gambling addict?
    Doesnt seem all that likely to me.
    Monty are short term or compressed fantasy sports more popular?

    Interesting article though, government taking something they say is bad and “regulating”it into a nice little earner for themselves.

  29. The Barking Toad

    well, well top 40 or so

  30. Chris

    Arrr’noon everybody!

  31. thefrolickingmole

    m0nty

    The article is based on a person who appears to be suing/getting sued for dodgy businesses name dropping.

    Keep tenderly loving that fowl.

  32. The Barking Toad

    Caught a bit of Bowen on Fox speaking at the Press Club.

    Gawd he’s awful – and talks shit.

  33. Myrddin Seren

    The dead re-animate.

    Zombie Apocalypse confirmed !

    Mercy them before it is too late !!

  34. H B Bear

    Why do people live in Sydney at all? If you want to live in an overcrowded city at least go somewhere else and pay Asian tax rates.

  35. Perth Trader

    Theres smarter people than me here so heres my question….Gorgon and Wheatstone are $111 billion investments in LNG off West. Aust. coast. Earnings are gross $11.5 billion a year. Is it true that the investors get a $1 tax deduction for every $1 invested , but if its not used in the full year the $1 rolls over to the following year and increases 15% to $1.15 and the following year by another 15% to $1.3225, and so on. If its true who wrote up this contract?

  36. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2712112, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    Why do people live in Sydney at all? If you want to live in an overcrowded city at least go somewhere else and pay Asian tax rates.

    I was born in once isolated suburb. Lots of traffic passing through. No high rise, so far.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    An Irishman, a lemon salesman and a squirrel walk into a bar…

    Tesla tackles Guinness World Record by towing a commercial airliner

    A Boeing Dreamliner taxiing at Melbourne Airport has received a helping hand, with Tesla’s brawny Model X towing the airliner across the tarmac as part of a Guinness World Record attempt.

    There’s no official word from Guinness just yet, though that does appear to be just a formality, with Qantas and Tesla gunning for the record for the “heaviest tow by an electric production passenger vehicle.”

    I wonder why…?

    The Revolving Door Continues: Tesla Loses Two More Executives

    It Gets Worse: Tesla Now Has To Compete With $50,000 Electric BMWs Going For $54/Month

    Do squirrels fly Qantas?

  38. Chris

    I just renewed my Quadrant subscription. Yay Quadrant!

  39. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2712117, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Porsche Towed an Air France A380 with a Cayenne to Set a Guinness World Record
    Posted on: 2017-05-02 / Categories: Special Event
    From the ‘Sure, why not’, department, we bring you the new Guinness World Record holder for ‘Heaviest aircraft pull by a production car’—because apparently that’s a category.

  40. Gab

    Has Baldrick reported in today?

  41. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2712099, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    EXCLUSIVE: Michael Cohen ‘asked Qatari investor for millions of dollars’ which he said he would ‘pass to Trump family members’ at Trump Tower meeting – and Qatar’s foreign minister was there too.

    Unlike the Avenatti millions there are no court documents supporting the allegation.

  42. stackja

    Gab
    #2712121, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:49 pm
    Has Baldrick reported in today?

    No!

  43. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, the second link didn’t work. Here it is again. Btw, all three headlines are from today.

  44. pete m

    perth trader, seems the issue stems from an inter-company loan to finance the projects:

    see here for ato battle over it

  45. Tom

    The dead re-animate.

    Imagine that: the Western media willingly engages in a deception of its audience staged-managed by Hamas to exaggerate the number of Palestinians killed when Hamas used them as cannon fodder against the IDF to achieve a propaganda victory.

    Such genocidal evil makes the Third Reich look good.

  46. Delta A

    Has Baldrick reported in today?

    He probably hasn’t surfaced properly yet, Gab. Then, for a time, he’ll be in considerable pain. Still, he’s a strong character; it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s posting by the end of the week.

  47. DrBeauGan

    Delta A
    #2712128, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:58 pm
    Has Baldrick reported in today?

    He probably hasn’t surfaced properly yet, Gab. Then, for a time, he’ll be in considerable pain. Still, he’s a strong character; it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s posting by the end of the week.

    Yup. I’m prepared to let him have a couple of days off. I’m sure he will be conscious of his obligations to keep us entertained. He’s a good bloke.

  48. Delta A

    He’s a good bloke.

    Indeed.

  49. Perth Trader

    Pete M …here is the reason I think. This came up in a weekend roundtable discussion. ”Fairfax Media first revealed in 2015 that LNG producers like Chevron would not pay any federal royalty for at least a decade or more due to generous write offs available under the petroleum resource rent tax.

    A recent report to Treasurer Scott Morrison found LNG exporters would soon sell $50 billion a year in the resource without paying anything for its extraction.

    Chevron told the Senate committee that it expected to start paying PRRT from Gorgon some time between “2029 and the mid-2030s”.

    Offshore LNG projects are not subject to any state royalties.”
    Due to the high tax deductions from the PRRT as I posted. Aust. gets bugga all from LNG.

  50. bundyrum

    Just for the record, I hate Turnbull, Shorten, the ALP & the LNP, in fact I hate our politcal shitbags to the nth degree.

  51. Makka

    Wussia!!! & Qataris!!!! Cohen!!!!

  52. JC

    m0nty
    #2712099, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    EXCLUSIVE: Michael Cohen ‘asked Qatari investor for millions of dollars’ which he said he would ‘pass to Trump family members’ at Trump Tower meeting – and Qatar’s foreign minister was there too

    That’s as plausible as you avoiding donuts for a week, STFU you idiot.

  53. Tel

    Russians are hiding in Qatar this week. Putin is so cunning, it’s unbelievable!

  54. For Snoppy, from the OOT:
    DrBeauGan:

    That was a sentence in English, DB. We also use the law of non-contradiction. As a grammatical rule, not a truth about the world.

    And the sentence My pants are on fire is also a sentence in English. That ‘We’ also use the law of non-contradiction (LNC) is not surprising, no one can help but use the LNC for fear of falling into incoherence. And it isn’t a mere grammatical rule, the statement, “It is impossible that the same thing can at the same time both belong and not belong to the same object and in the same respect,…(1005b19–23)”is certainly a statement about the world.

    Technically this is a false statement, but its falsity is quite different from the falsity of the statement Your pants are on fire.

    One of them requires sensory checking, the other is a matter of violation of a rule.

    But it’s not a mere grammatical rule or even a mere rule, and it’s even in use when considering the statement Your pants are on fire where neither ‘and’ nor ‘not’ appear.

    Thank heaven for that. Gastroenterologists aren’t as ambitious as metaphysicians.

    True, some metaphysicians are overly ambitious as are some scientists, but happily, I never said that scientists must consult metaphysicians, nor have those I’ve quoted.

    That’s in the study of language. Some of us are trying to understand it. It’s not entirely physical science. But there is hope of getting it inside the scope of science.

    A reluctant admission that maths and logic provide us with a bit of reality outside of the scope of science. However, there is no explanatory need to subsume maths and logic into physical science; it is perfectly intelligible on its own terms. Unless, of course, to paraphrase Wittgenstein, “a picture holds us captive”.

    Zippy:

    you are confusing metaphysical for physical assumptions. we need zero metaphysical assumptions to survive in the world, we need however a large body of physical assumptions. we don’t construct our mental model of reality from metaphysical basis, we construct it from physical basis by the interconnectivity of neurons.

    Here are some metaphysical statements presupposed by science: that there is an objective world external to the minds of scientists; that this world is governed by causal regularities; that the human intellect can uncover and accurately describe these regularities. By the way, please don’t claim these are ‘physical statements’, that is just silly.

  55. DrBeauGan

    m0nty
    #2712099, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    EXCLUSIVE: Michael Cohen ‘asked Qatari investor for millions of dollars’ which he said he would ‘pass to Trump family members’ at Trump Tower meeting – and Qatar’s foreign minister was there too

    Because they obviously need the money.

  56. Speedbox

    I worked in Sydney on a contract for 18 months that finished about 2 years ago. I used to pass through the Central Station precinct each morning and each evening and I well remember Belmore Park.

    For those who are unfamiliar, it is littered with homeless who have erected their small tents and shelters. Dozens of them in the public park. The Police seem to leave them alone and the Sydney City Council don’t seem entirely sure what to do with them although I guess there is a purge from time to time. Homeless are everywhere in Sydney. Lots of them.

    Another recollection is the number of Asians and Indians (mostly students). Thousands of them. Seriously, thousands.

    After a short while I used to pass the homeless, the marauding yoof and the Asian or Indian students without giving them a second look – just like a real Sydneysider.

    But the cost of housing and living is Sydney is something else. I was incredulous when people told me they lived 50+ kilometers out of the city and in the more extreme cases, travelled up to 2 hours by bus/train EACH WAY just to get to work. This is living I asked? The simple truth was that they couldn’t afford to live any closer.

    As my contract was coming to a close, one of the younger members of the Sydney team told me he was building a new home 45 kms away. I don’t remember the area but it was some new development. The very small plot of land cost him $740k and the house would be $350k. I saw the house plans and was struck that $1.1 million would buy such an ordinary home.

    The only reason he could afford it was his parents were fronting part of the deposit despite his wife and he saving for several years. They would still be saddled with a mortgage aroung $800k and 1.5 hours of commuter travel each way for work. I gently mentioned that similar expenditure in Brisbane would buy a lovely home just a few kilometres from the city. To no avail.

    My relatively short experience as a Sydney “resident” confirmed my view that Sydney is a great place to visit – and the glue that binds Sydneysiders to that heaving metropolis must be compelling. Fortunately, I am immune.

  57. DrBeauGan

    Here are some metaphysical statements presupposed by science: that there is an objective world external to the minds of scientists; that this world is governed by causal regularities; that the human intellect can uncover and accurately describe these regularities. By the way, please don’t claim these are ‘physical statements’, that is just silly.

    Remarkably, cats, dogs and cockroaches make the same metaphysical assumptions. Well, they assume that cats, dogs and cockroaches can uncover and use these regularities. They don’t talk about them. But they sure use them. Amazing that cats, dogs and cockroaches all share these metaphysical assumptions.

  58. Dr Faustus

    Is it true that the investors get a $1 tax deduction for every $1 invested , but if its not used in the full year the $1 rolls over to the following year and increases 15% to $1.15 and the following year by another 15% to $1.3225, and so on. If its true who wrote up this contract?

    This is (roughly) how the Petroleum Resource Rent Tax applies to offshore oil and gas projects outside of the NWS project area and the Timor Gap. Companies then get to pay income tax at the appropriate rate on what’s left after the Commonwealth takes its 40% PRRT out of gross profit.

    It was introduced in 1987. So Labor.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Unless they are fully insured this could completely sink the Benalla Bugle and it’s former ABC helmsman (helmsperson?).
    But, FFS, Blot … employ a poof-reader.
    $175,00 (sic).

  60. Myrddin Seren

    Re – the Daily Mail exclusive re Cohen.

    The by-lines are for Josh Boswell and Ryan Parry.

    Parry is the US West Coast reporter for the Mail.

    Which is a long way from where any of this is supposed to be happening.

    Boswell is a freelancer in LA.

    His Twitter feed indicates his most recent personal appearance was on CNN, talking about the Royal Wedding.

    Somewhat amazingly for two guys based in LA, they seem to have obtained some extremely high level sources amongst the Gulf aristocracy.

    eg

    Two Middle East leaders have been boasting that they are behind the firing of US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, according to a source close to the Arab princes, DailyMail.com can disclose.

    Eat your heart out CNN, NYT and WaPo – LA is where it is all happening.

  61. Mitch M.:

    The operative word here is “model”, which is not about defining reality. No progress in those efforts to describe reality in the whole just more words, most don’t even consider that a scientific enterprise. Theoretical physics is often confused with physics as a whole. I wish more people would read particle physics and more experimentally associated realms. If we’re going to discuss Science then discuss Science as it is practiced not as it is imagined in popular science texts. When we look across the all the disciplines of Science it turns out that the scientists and mathematicians preoccupied with models of reality are a very small percentage of the work scientists do. Claiming that tiny percentage represents the goals of Science is your strawman. You may as well argue that Alain de Botton represents modern day philosophy.

    I want only to deal with the first sentence from the above. The rest of what you say really doesn’t apply to anything I’ve said over the last day or so. I certainly haven’t argued that science attempts to define reality as a whole. In fact, that is precisely what I have not been saying and have been arguing against. But I would say that science does concern itself, and it does so quite well, with an aspect of reality and this is what it models. If it didn’t do this, its explanatory success would be a mystery. Oh, ok, a word on discussing science by focusing on what scientists actually do, I couldn’t agree more. In this respect, the work of Prof. Nancy Cartwright, for instance, is fantastic.

  62. If Dover and Dr B could add a few ‘lying c-ts’ and threats to kill one another, we could even revive the Cat’s golden age.

    ROFL. No really.

  63. H B Bear

    Unless they are fully insured this could completely sink the Benalla Bugle and it’s former ABC helmsman (helmsperson?).

    Let’s hope so. If only it were possible to do the same to Fauxfacts and the ALPBC.

  64. notafan

    Do cats, dogs and cockroaches also do maths and science?

  65. Snoopy

    dover_beach
    #2712141, posted on May 16, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    For Snoppy, from the OOT:

    Uh? What made you think I care?

  66. Myrddin Seren

    Well known White Supremacist and Racist and Literally-a-Nazi POTUS The Donald.

    comforts the mother of murdered New York Police Detective Miosotis Familia at the National Peace Officers’ Memorial Service.

    Outside the Deep Swamp Beltway national security agencies and a DWS-haven like Broward County, I am suspecting that #TheResistance will not find too much support among the law enforcement community.

  67. Gab

    Baldrick you slacker! Get over here and gives the details.

  68. And what a spectacular hypocrisy. After years of ostentatious denunciations of secret Church proceedings regarding child sexual abuse allegations – to say nothing of customary references to the Inquisition – the Victorian DPP wants the trial of Cardinal Pell to be held in strict secrecy, reportage to be outlawed and journalist offenders to be imprisoned.

    Gobsmacking.

  69. feelthebern

    Baldrick is to busy getting a sponge bath from a busty nurse.

  70. JC

    And what a spectacular hypocrisy. After years of ostentatious denunciations of secret Church proceedings regarding child sexual abuse allegations – to say nothing of customary references to the Inquisition – the Victorian DPP wants the trial of Cardinal Pell to be held in strict secrecy, reportage to be outlawed and journalist offenders to be imprisoned.

    They literally wan to create a star chamber.

  71. DrBeauGan

    And the sentence My pants are on fire is also a sentence in English. That ‘We’ also use the law of non-contradiction (LNC) is not surprising, no one can help but use the LNC for fear of falling into incoherence. And it isn’t a mere grammatical rule, the statement, “It is impossible that the same thing can at the same time both belong and not belong to the same object and in the same respect,…(1005b19–23)”is certainly a statement about the world.

    No it isn’t.

    The reason for having lnc in a language is that you can deduce any proposition whatever from a contradiction, which makes excluding them a good idea. If you want to have logical arguments. If you don’t want to have logical arguments, and most people don’t, you can get along without it. Most people do.

    Lnc is a property of languages that permit complex argument. Whether you regard language as part of the world is I suppose optional. It isn’t customarily regarded as part of the physical world.

  72. stackja

    Speedbox
    #2712143, posted on May 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    Richmond Report closed many mental health facilities.

  73. feelthebern

    Has the County Court snoop been named?
    Have they been caught snooping in other trials?
    Are they are Milligan source?
    These are the questions that have to be answered.

  74. Snoopy

    Michael Avenatti’s threat to sue the Gateway Pundit boys seems to have fallen on deaf ears.

    According to public records, creepy porn star attorney Michael Avenatti entered into an agreement to buy a $12 million home in Newport Beach, California. He agreed to pay $100,000 a month in lease payments for nine months while he gathered the cash to close on the property. The problem was, that come the time that his escrow was due, Avenatti didn’t have the cash to cover the escrow or even his rent.

    So what did Avenatti do? At this same exact time, magically and mysteriously, a Swiss company appeared out of the blue, sues the home owner, and tries to take the house from him.
    >
    >
    The Swiss company suit was a pure fraud on the court, and the only logical explanation is it was a fraud by Avenatti.

  75. stackja

    Speedbox
    #2712143, posted on May 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    Sydney and suburbs wasn’t ready for all the people who suddenly wanted to live in the area.

  76. JC

    That doesn’t sound plausible, Snoopy. There is no possibility the home could be taken from the owner and handed over to the lawyer. In a case like this, the court would also award costs against him. Even if the Av man was representing himself, he would have to face up to the other side’s costs. I’m very doubtful about a story like this.

  77. No it isn’t.

    Yes it is.

    The reason for having lnc in a language is that you can deduce any proposition whatever from a contradiction, which makes excluding them a good idea. If you want to have logical arguments. If you don’t want to have logical arguments, and most people don’t, you can get along without it. Most people do.

    Not at all. When I’m told Dinner is on the table I’m not being invited to engage in a logical argument, I’m being told where my dinner is, and by implication, where it isn’t. This is exceedingly practical as most people understand.

    Lnc is a property of languages that permit complex argument. Whether you regard language as part of the world is I suppose optional. It isn’t customarily regarded as part of the physical world.

    Sounds like you’re engaging in philosophy here. Whether the LNC is considered a property of language or thought or even whether language (or thought) itself is considered a part (or not) of the physical world depends upon one’s metaphysical background I guess. Better get that out in the open as Burtt recommended.

  78. DrBeauGan

    notafan
    #2712155, posted on May 16, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    Do cats, dogs and cockroaches also do maths and science?

    The point, Notafan, is that cats,dogs and cockroaches all make the assumption that there is a universe, that it contains things, and that there are regularities in the way things behave, and that finding the regularities is a good idea. Nevertheless, you don’t need a degree in metaphysics to be a cockroach. Likewise, you don’t need any knowledge of metaphysics to be a scientist. If DB makes the claim that scientists have unstated metaphysical assumptions when they study the world, then the same holds for cats,dogs and cockroaches.

  79. notafan

    How do you know what assumptions dogs, cats and cockroaches make?

  80. Snoopy

    JC, it’s $8 million again. Eight must be Avenatti’s lucky number.

    The mysterious Swiss company claims that the prior home owner owed $8 million on a home loan that came due magically right when Avenatti was supposed to pay escrow or vacate. Avenatti at this same time quits paying rent, while the homeowner has to fight this new ‘lis pendens’ suit from the Swiss company claiming to own the home that prevents the homeowner from selling it to anyone else as well.

    When it comes time for discovery in the case with the Newport Beach property, the Swiss company never shows up for a deposition.

    When it comes time for mediation, the Swiss company never shows up for that.

    When it comes time for court, the Swiss company doesn’t appear.

  81. Rae

    Snoppy

    That’s good, Dover Beach. I like it.

  82. cohenite

    m0nty
    #2712099, posted on May 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    EXCLUSIVE: Michael Cohen ‘asked Qatari investor for millions of dollars’ which he said he would ‘pass to Trump family members’ at Trump Tower meeting – and Qatar’s foreign minister was there too.

    Unlike the Avenatti millions there are no court documents supporting the allegation.

    And it happened in an elevator. Sounds real to me.

    From the last thread monster said this:

    AT&T got net neutrality passed and is in the middle of antitrust action, Korean Aerospace is about to win a billion dollar government contract.

    Trump just let ZTE off the hook in exchange for China investing in his hotels. He is not even hiding it any more. He is a crook.

    Anyone got any idea what he’s rabbiting on about.

  83. DrBeauGan

    Not at all. When I’m told Dinner is on the table I’m not being invited to engage in a logical argument, I’m being told where my dinner is, and by implication, where it isn’t. This is exceedingly practical as most people understand.

    You can be told that dinner is on the table in languages that don’t have lnc. Mime for example.

    If you can mime that dinner is on the table and is simultaneously not on the table, I’d like a video clip please.

  84. JC

    Snoopy

    The problem I have even with the $8 million is this. Who in their right mind would pay a busted up lawyer $8 million and for what exactly? It’s not as though he’s worth it in any way. If it were say 300K, I would find it far more credible.

    The 8 mill could be funds he was hiding and now it’s post bankruptcy has found its way back to the surface. I just can’t believe anyone would shower him with money like that as it’s way over the top.

  85. DrBeauGan

    notafan
    #2712176, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:19 pm
    How do you know what assumptions dogs, cats and cockroaches make?

    You just have to watch them, Notafan.

    I wouldn’t actually call it making assumptions myself, that’s DB talk. But if we are to use that rather stilted language, then clearly your dog recognises you as an entity in the world, moreover one that can sometimes be persuaded to go walkies. There’s a regularity for it to exploit.

  86. JC

    Fuck they’re disgusting. They’re vultures.

    A fifth class action has been flagged against AMP, with Brisbane-based specialist Shine Lawyers joining litigants vying against the beleaguered wealth management group.

    Shine Lawyers today said it had partnered with UK litigation funder Augusta Ventures, the largest litigation funder in the UK market by volume, to bring a shareholder class action against AMP.

    The firm joins rivals Maurice Blackburn, Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, Phi Finney McDonald, and Slater and Gordon, who have now announced class action suits against AMP over the plunge in its share price following revelations at the banking royal commission last month.

    The commission heard AMP repeatedly misled the corporate watchdog over deliberately charging financial advice customers for services they did not receive.

    Only two firms have formally lodged their claims, with Phi Finney going to the Federal Court and Quinn Emanuel to the NSW Supreme Court.

    Shine Lawyers was one of the first firms to announce its intention to pursue a claim against AMP.

    “We are continuing to conduct our due diligence into this matter and expect to file proceedings shortly,” said Shine’s class actions expert Jan Saddler.

  87. DrBeauGan

    Sounds like you’re engaging in philosophy here.

    Heaven forfend! I thought I was merely observing customary language usage.

  88. Tel

    Lnc is a property of languages that permit complex argument. Whether you regard language as part of the world is I suppose optional. It isn’t customarily regarded as part of the physical world.

    You can impose a “no contradictions” constraint on abstract languages such as boolean algebra without ever needing to explain how that relates to any physical entity. So it must at a minimum be a property of languages.

    That said, of course all the standard logical contradictions will always continue to exist, just because you say you declare them off limits does not make them go away. e.g.

    Statement A declares that statement B is false.

    Statement B declares that statement A is true.

    If both statements exist in the same language at the same time, your language contains at least one self contradiction. You can imagine many more of such constructs so basically they pop up all over the place unless you take pains to step around the problem. Logic has its limitations.

  89. feelthebern

    LOL.
    Trump has made it clear that if the net neutrality bill lands on his desk in the current form, he’ll veto it because it favours the big cable companies, like AT&T, Comcast etc.
    Looks like that was money down the gurgler for AT&T.

  90. Cactus

    Reply to Speedbox re: Sydney.

    I live in Sydney, originally coming from QLD. I am in role/industry where I make a better salary than most which was the original drawcard. That and big city – excitement etc.

    When I first moved here – I was struck by basically the exact same thing you are talking about. People commuting long distances, and committing themselves to servitude via real estate and banks. Also I was struck by how property was such a big topic of conversation down here. I.e. when you meet people the first 5 questions of small talk people exchange, in Sydney “Where do you live” it is usually either item 1 or 2 and definitely in the top 5. Coming from Queensland I really wasn’t used to that, seemed to be more what’s your job, what sports you like etc.

    Where you live is really a big item of status and tribal in Sydney. Each 4 sides of Sydney judge the others. People here also lose their freaking minds if you have to cross over a bridge. When I first moved here, people asked me where I lived. I said “inner city”. I was told I do not live in the inner city, I was OTB. FYI I was living in Crows Nest which is what people here describe as Over the Bridge. To me I had thought if you were 10mins from the city, you were inner city. Big mistake. Apparently being in Surrey Hills is inner city, even if it takes 15-20 to get to Circular Quay.

    The losing of minds is not just the Harbour Bridge, it is also the Anzac Bridge (have heard referred to as the Badlands), or over the Captain Cook bridge to the south where if you live there people think you have 6 fingers.

    Most people around me (friends/colleagues) were from Sydney. I had lots of arguments with them re: real estate. People talking about “good value” when looking at the odd $1.2m small apartment, or $2m for ordinary houses in the inner west. I would often show them what you could get in Queensland with that money. Derisively they would mock it as, “yes, but its in Queensland”. I just don’t know how the average person in Sydney can afford to live this way. The traffic, the congestion.

    They are a strange mob down here.

  91. Rae

    They literally wan to create a star chamber.

    Not unlike a Confessional. Except, all will be revealed when it’s over.

  92. notafan

    i’m just not convinced that dogs, cats and cockroaches engage with the world in quite the same way as humans.

  93. JC

    Stop trying to sound smart, Gargoolyey. It’s actually your worst trait, other than the passive aggressiveness.

  94. feelthebern

    Sydney has changed a lot in the 22 years I have lived here.
    Maybe it was four tribes you speak of.
    Maybe people did ask where you live.
    Nowadays that isn’t my experience.
    It’s a case of business first & sport a distant second.
    Amazing how many blokes have zero interest in sports these days.
    I blame their parents & teachers.

  95. Snoopy

    The 8 mill could be funds he was hiding and now it’s post bankruptcy

    He was never declared bankrupt. He declared assets of less than $412,000 but had huge debts. The $8 million enabled him to pay off debts including:

    ** $4.85 Million to his law firm employees he defrauded
    ** Close to $2 Million in back taxes for payroll taxes on his law firm
    ** Nearly another $1 million to other creditors

    And avoid bankruptcy.

  96. feelthebern

    Maybe Grig is one of the Pell accusers & doesn’t want any coverage.

  97. JC

    When I first moved here – I was struck by basically the exact same thing you are talking about. People commuting long distances, and committing themselves to servitude via real estate and banks.

    You mean like a large number of people live in large western cities.

  98. JC

    Maybe Grig is one of the Pell accusers & doesn’t want any coverage.

    Sounds like it. He’s very anti-Pell, but not in a good way.

  99. Boambee John

    feelthebern
    #2712187, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    LOL.
    Trump has made it clear that if the net neutrality bill lands on his desk in the current form, he’ll veto it because it favours the big cable companies, like AT&T, Comcast etc.
    Looks like that was money down the gurgler for AT&T.

    Sshhh. Don’t tell m0nty, he will need to wait another day for the new talking point.

  100. Dr Faustus

    Due to the high tax deductions from the PRRT as I posted. Aust. gets bugga all from LNG.

    At a US$60/bbl reference oil price, the shmucks who tossed $100 billion into the Australian resources casino on the back of decisions made at +US$90/bbl are also getting bugger all from LNG.

    Perhaps that’s a comfort.

  101. JC

    Snoopy
    #2712194, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    The 8 mill could be funds he was hiding and now it’s post bankruptcy

    He was never declared bankrupt. He declared assets of less than $412,000 but had huge debts. The $8 million enabled him to pay off debts including:

    ** $4.85 Million to his law firm employees he defrauded
    ** Close to $2 Million in back taxes for payroll taxes on his law firm
    ** Nearly another $1 million to other creditors

    And avoid bankruptcy.

    Sure, I get all that. The problem I have is that I don’t believe anyone would pay him $ 8 million, as it way over the top.

  102. Cactus

    feelthebern – I was struck too by the little interest in sport by the blokes down here. It just isn’t talked about anything like in Queensland.

  103. stackja

    Sydney and suburbs have changed much over 60 years. I don’t believe for the better.

  104. Rae

    I was living in Crows Nest which is what people here describe as Over the Bridge

    I have never heard anyone in Sydney use the term “Over the Bridge”. Crows Nest is “on the North Shore” or “up the North Shore”.

    And there is no “e” in Surry Hills.

    And this:

    The losing of minds is not just the Harbour Bridge, it is also the Anzac Bridge (have heard referred to as the Badlands), or over the Captain Cook bridge to the south where if you live there people think you have 6 fingers.

    is just made up bullshit.

  105. Rae

    I would often show them what you could get in Queensland with that money. Derisively they would mock it as, “yes, but its in Queensland”.

    That bit might well be correct.

  106. areff

    The judge who turned loose those two drug-addled low-lifes who beat up the ambo medic has form when it comes cutting monsters some slack.

    Need it be said she was elevated to the County Court by Rob Hulls?

    From the Herald Sun in 2016:

    A terrifying would-be rapist who assaulted a pregnant woman on her way home from work will skip free from prison in a little over a year.

    Casey Tennent couldn’t believe his luck when his sentence was repeatedly slashed before his eyes at the County Court.

    Tennent pleaded guilty to a brutal attack on the expectant mother who was riding home along the Upfield bike path last April.

    The registered nurse was dragged off her bike by the 20-year old into bushes where she fought for her life.

    The court heard Tennent choked the woman and demanded she take off her pants before trying to pull them down himself.

    The woman begged him to stop, telling him she was pregnant.

    In a victim impact statement tendered to the court, the woman said she was forced into the reality that she was going to be raped, but was hopeful she would not be killed.

    She was eventually rescued by a good Samaritan, who chased the pervert off.

    Tennent punched the man in the head before the police arrived and arrested him.

    He later told police during a chilling interview that he’d imagined carrying out a rape on a stranger and “aspired’ to be the guy who did it.

    Tennent pleaded guilty to assault with intention to commit a sexual offence and common law assault.

    Judge Barbara Cotterell started off with a two-year jail sentence followed by a five-year community corrections order with 250 hours of community work, but was quickly convinced she might get overturned on appeal.

    “Given his age, that’s a long time,” Tennent’s barrister warned.

    Instead, Judge Cotterell knocked his jail term down to 23 months, slashed a year off his CCO to four years and dropped his work order down to 200 hours.

    She also fined him $1000 for punching the good Samaritan.

    “I don’t want to fall into error,” Judge Cotterell said.

  107. feelthebern

    I can understand why people live in the Shire & commute to the CBD for work.
    The Shire rocks in every way.

  108. Cactus

    feelthebern – I understand why people live there too. For Sydney it has comparatively more affordable and nice housing and there is national parks/beaches nearby. The trainline gets you in the CBD.

    But many people not from there are quite derisive in my experience about it. I don’t understand it but there you go.

  109. You can be told that dinner is on the table in languages that don’t have lnc. Mime for example.

    Is mime a language?

  110. gingerbeer

    Funny … I hear “over the bridge” used all the time.

    The Northern Beaches is God’s own country !

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Is mime a language?

    My answer below …
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    Does that make sense?

  112. H B Bear

    At a US$60/bbl reference oil price, the shmucks who tossed $100 billion into the Australian resources casino on the back of decisions made at +US$90/bbl are also getting bugger all from LNG.

    Yep – it would be interesting to have a night on the piss with the head guys from Chevron and others to ask them what they really thought of Australia. I’m guessing most of them wish they had never heard of the place. And the numbats, quolls and other assorted bush junk on Barrow Island.

  113. Delta A

    My answer below …

    Don’t use that language here!

    It’s not that sort of blog.

  114. If both statements exist in the same language at the same time, your language contains at least one self contradiction. You can imagine many more of such constructs so basically they pop up all over the place unless you take pains to step around the problem. Logic has its limitations.

    I don’t think you quite appreciate that this could only be true if the LNC is true.

  115. C.L.

    So we’re now going to have class action suits every time somebody’s investments go bad?
    This is yet another extension of perpetual adolescence; nobody bears any responsibility whatsoever for their own adult decisions.

  116. Snoopy

    Sure, I get all that. The problem I have is that I don’t believe anyone would pay him $ 8 million, as it way over the top.

    It is a bit of a mystery. Also a huge coincidence that $8 million and Stormy Daniels fell into his lap at the same time.

    It could be a loan I suppose which he thinks he can repay from the proceeds of Stormygate. He couldn’t practice law as a bankrupt. As at 11 March he’d done 108 television interviews.

    I suppose the point is that someone now owns his arse. But who?

  117. C.L.

    Has the County Court snoop been named?
    Have they been caught snooping in other trials?
    Are they are Milligan source?
    These are the questions that have to be answered.

    No no. Australian reporters no longer ask questions.
    … not when somebody like George Pell is being framed.

  118. i’m just not convinced that dogs, cats and cockroaches engage with the world in quite the same way as humans.

    notafan, you have excellent reasons not to, the first of which involved the immediate concession “I wouldn’t actually call it making assumptions myself.”

  119. areff

    yet more on Let-’em-loose Judge Cotterell, pride of the Labor-appointed bench:

    Judge Barbara Cotterell’s instincts were also ruled to be well wide of the sentencing mark when she dealt with a man who indecently assaulted two boys aged 11 and 12, and raped one of them, while a tenant in their father’s home.

    Judge Cotterell sentenced the offender to two years and nine months’ jail but suspended two years of it, leaving him just nine months to serve.

    The court was told the man sexually assaulted one boy every weekend for a year and his behaviour had left a dire, enduring and bitter legacy that led both to finally come forward 21 years later.

    The court of Appeal ruled that despite his early guilty plea, remorse and good prospects of rehabilitation, the sentence was manifestly inadequate.

    The three appeal judges ruled the new sentence should be 7 1/2 years with a minimum non-parole period of three years and nine months – five times more than the nine months’ jail he had originally been given.

  120. stackja

    CL – George Pell frame hope to wear him down physically and financially.

  121. What was the result of today’s hearing re Pell?

  122. JC

    Forbes reckons Trump is worth around $3 billion. Thing is, his holdings have about 2 billion of debt. Fuck! The $3 billion is net of debt, obviously.

    https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#3b2bcdb72899

    Keith holds a very long grudge and Mick, should stop the incoherent babbling because everyone knows he’s rightwing.

    Donald Trump has made many enemies in his time, but surely only Keith Richards has drawn a knife.

    The Rolling Stones guitarist has told of the band’s bad experience with Mr Trump before he became president. In 1989 the business tycoon was a promoter of their Steel Wheels tour.

    Richards, 74, said that the encounter had left him demanding: “You’ve got to get rid of this man.”

    He told the BBC: “He was the promoter for us in Atlantic City. It was [billed as] Donald Trump presents the Rolling Stones, [which was] in miniature. We never have much to do with promoters usually, but this one got me. That was the last time I got angry. I pulled out my trusty blade, stuck it in the table and said, ‘You’ve got to get rid of this man.’ ”

    He told the Today program on BBC Radio 4: “Now America has to get rid of him. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.”

    Richards added: “These days nothing [gets me angry]. I can’t be bothered to waste the energy on anger. I’ve got nothing to be angry about. “It would almost be gratuitous … ‘What, you’ve burnt the toast?’ What am I going to get angry about?”

    Mr Trump used the band’s song You Can’t Always Get What You Want during his presidential campaign.

    Sir Mick Jagger, the lead singer, said: “He used it on every rally through the election campaign … It’s a funny song for your play-out song. When he finished his speech he played out on this doomy ballad about drugs in Chelsea.

    “It’s kind of weird if you think about it. But he couldn’t be persuaded to use something else. It was odd, really odd.”

    Jagger also weighed in on UK politics, particularly Brexit, saying: “I’m not really happy about the status quo. I think we’re going through a particularly difficult moment … the current government seems to have a hard time navigating through it. One week it’s one thing, one week it’s the next.

    “Everyone would like to see a fast resolution, a united front … and some leadership that’s united rather than split.”

    The Times

  123. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    feelthebern – I was struck too by the little interest in sport by the blokes down here. It just isn’t talked about anything like in Queensland.

    Sydney is a homosexual wasteland of vacuousness and narcissism.

    Nice place to visit but a shit of a place to live.

    It is the least Australian place in Australia.

  124. Leigh Lowe

    Keef needs to get on the dragon blood.

  125. Percy Porcelain

    Has poor ol’ Balders been involved in a regrettable incident?

  126. thefrolickingmole

    Chevron told the Senate committee that it expected to start paying PRRT from Gorgon some time between “2029 and the mid-2030s”.

    This was why our state premier Colin was so desperate to get an on shore processing hub set up.

    Thank the greens & co for the beatup that saw most onshore processing bypassed, cost, billions…
    Oh and ABC which ran its usual “cover 30 ferals in a kombi van” protesters as a major issue.
    https://arena.org.au/james-price-point-victory-or-loss/
    Barnett emphasised that the gas would have to be processed onshore to maximise local employment and enable his government to impose a 15 per cent domestic gas reservation requirement as a de-facto royalty.

  127. Anthony

    When does George Pell’s formal persecution begin?

  128. Makka

    Has poor ol’ Balders been involved in a regrettable incident?

    The precious thing is having a quad by-pass. Anything for a few days off.

  129. DrBeauGan

    notafan
    #2712190, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:33 pm
    i’m just not convinced that dogs, cats and cockroaches engage with the world in quite the same way as humans.

    We talk a lot. That’s the main difference.

  130. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Keef needs to get on the dragon blood.

    I love Keef but he is very full of shit.

  131. Leigh Lowe

    Sydney is a homosexual wasteland of vacuousness and narcissism.

    Nice place to visit but a shit of a place to live.

    It is the least Australian place in Australia.

    They think they are an amalgam of New York, Venice and Paris.
    Truth is, it is just an super-sized Goulburn with a bridge and an opera house which never hosts opera.
    Sad.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    I love Keef but he is very full of shit.

    That’s not wax coming out of his ears.

  133. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Sydney is a hot bed of culture. Much like a thrush infected dyke’s bike shorts.

  134. JC

    On the subject of entertainment promotion. I met a dude at a party recently who is a band promoter of mid level to top bands and talent from around the world. It sounded to me to be a lot like trading.

    The musicos agents put out the word their talent would like to do a tour gig in Australia and they get the promoters to bid a deal with the best and safest winning. The interesting thing is that for the top acts the promoters have to offer something resembling an underwriting floor. In other words the talent has to get a minimum to perform irrespective of the gate receipts. Some just work off the underwriting while others also expect a % of the gate.

    Some of these promoters ask high net worth fuckers to help provide a floor for the underwritten amount. Interesting that the dude was also a B Comm.

    He reckons some of the top promoters have lost bundles with some acts as hey overbid each to the sky.

  135. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Some of these promoters ask high net worth fuckers to help provide a floor for the underwritten amount. Interesting that the dude was also a B Comm.

    A friend of mine did that for Lionel Richie’s tour a few years ago.

    Apparently it is near on impossible to make a dollar promoting the stones due to the deals they make.

  136. cohenite

    THE once staid Australian Institute of Company Directors was founded half a century ago to pursue capitalism’s noble aims of free enterprise and wealth creation which have lifted the world out of poverty and saved billions of lives.

    But today it has become a toxic incubator for the cultural Marxism contagion that has spread through corporate Australia.

    An informant we shall call Angus, who has completed one of AICD’s overpriced $7699 courses on how to be a company director, complains that he was subjected to relentless propaganda about the virtues of gender quotas on boards, climate activism and other fashionable social causes.

    The day on “corporate governance” was particularly hard on anyone with a conservative outlook.

    The bint running it is Elizabeth proust:

    Proust attained her Arts degree in sociology and political science from Melbourne’s LaTrobe University in 1975 and worked as chief of staff to John Cain, the former Labor Premier of Victoria whose calamitous reign makes the Andrews government look sensible. Under Proust, the AICD has become an activist organisation pushing Labor/Greens policies.

    It’s probably no wonder that Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen has promised to give the AICD $3 million of taxpayer money if Labor wins the next election to spend on “Asian-capable” board diversity.

    Is there a bureaucrat, academic or business person in this country worth feeding?

  137. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    PROPHECY is unfolding in the Middle East. Riots. Killings. War. At its centre is President Donald Trump. And his evangelical supporters are hoping he will bring on Armageddon.

    The move of the US embassy to Jerusalem was bold.

    Its outcome was predictable.

    The territorial dispute between the Palestinians and the recently recreated (after some 1875 years) Israel has been erupting sporadically ever since 1948.

    Any change to the delicate power balance was sure to topple into violence.

    It has shattered hopes of fresh peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.

    It has also damaged the credibility of the US as a Middle East peace broker.

    How this has been allowed to happen doesn’t make much sense — unless you look at it through the evangelical eyes of some of Trump’s top advisers and closest confidantes.

    The move was about domestic politics.

    Not international diplomacy.

    The decision to move the embassy fulfilled a key Trump election campaign promise. It also represented a victory for hard-line pro-Israeli interest groups.

    But Trump’s most prominent electoral support group — conservative evangelicals — see it all as a biblical drama. At last, their great nation has an embassy in God’s own capital city — Jerusalem. And it means cataclysmic events proclaimed by prophecy are about to take place.

    Trump himself is at the heart of this prophecy.

    His fate is seen as intrinsicly tied to that of an ancient Persian king.

    The President of the United States is God’s right-hand man, many evangelicals believe. Trump is an imperfect tool God is using to create perfect works. This means nothing less than the end of days. And a one-way ticket to heaven.

    Newscorpse now publishing stuff that is too kooky for most leftist sites. Apparently these idiots don’t remember the Mid East while Obama was in charge.

    https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/world/middle-eastern-prophecy-is-trump-a-reincarnated-king-cyrus-destined-to-herald-the-end-of-days-ng-8fce69eacebd929b482ee00c895f37dc

  138. JC

    Leigh, the harbor is gorgeous if you live around it. Also parts of the upper North Shore are also pretty nice too, although I’d rather drink poison than live there. The northern beaches (only Whale and Palm Beach) are pretty decent The rest of Sydney is really fucking ugly. The only problem with demolishing places like Darlinghurst and shitholes like that is the Sydney da…velopers would come up with something worse.

  139. thefrolickingmole

    JC

    Many, many moons ago i was roadie/area gofer for a mob called “big top promotions” which specialized in getting bands 5-10 years past their one hit wonder/prime and running them through the regions for a last moneymaker.

    At the age of 15 it was quite a wild time and I greatly enjoyed it.
    He lasted about 3 years, id do 3 or so shows a year with him acts like the party boys & the models.
    High stress, seat of the pants finance though from the look i got of it.

    Oh and Angry Anderson is a naughty, naughty boy. (mother & daughter at the same time naughty)

  140. Speedbox

    I just don’t know how the average person in Sydney can afford to live this way.

    Yes, I wondered the same.

    I get it – I understand that Sydney has an attraction to many simply because it is Sydney. Others are “trapped” by family requirements but holy crap Batman, that the average punter makes a living (or puts up with their lot) is a testament to their sheer dogged resiliance.

    I lived in Surry Hills (on Devonshire St) for about 6 months. Surrounded by wierdos, cafes with assorted inedible products and LGQWERTY millenials. I was in Hell !! Fortunately a Subway and all night kebab shop saved my sanity.

  141. JC

    Mole

    That’s interesting. In almost any business segment people try to segment and specialize, it seems. Trying for that extra buck.

  142. Myrddin Seren

    An informant we shall call Angus, who has completed one of AICD’s overpriced $7699 courses on how to be a company director, complains that he was subjected to relentless propaganda about the virtues of gender quotas on boards, climate activism and other fashionable social causes.

    AICD likes Angus’s $7.7k.

    Angus better be ticking at least the ‘Gay’-box, because diversity quotas suggest none of his other likely personal attributes ( pale, stale, Anglo-phone, male ) will see him ( or me ) on a board any time soon.

    Iowahawk ( timeless )

    1. Identify a respected institution.
    2. kill it.
    3. gut it.
    4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect

  143. Makka

    Iowahawk ( timeless )

    1. Identify a respected institution.
    2. kill it.
    3. gut it.
    4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect

    Fabianism.

  144. JC

    Apparently it is near on impossible to make a dollar promoting the stones due to the deals they make.

    That’s Mick I bet. The fucker still has the first quid he made.

  145. DrBeauGan

    over_beach
    #2712209, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    You can be told that dinner is on the table in languages that don’t have lnc. Mime for example.

    Is mime a language?

    Depends on what you mean by a language. It can be used to communicate, although it lacks the precision of English. Which in turn lacks the precision of algebra. It is a collection of continuous gestures rather than discrete symbols. Much the same can be said of spoken English.

  146. JC

    2. kill it.
    3. gut it.
    4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect

    Sounds like Buffalo Gargs and what goes on in the basement.

  147. thefrolickingmole

    To rephrase an old joke.

    How was copper wire invented?

    Someone dropped a penny between Mick and Keith.

  148. Chris

    Sounds like Buffalo Gargs and what goes on in the basement.

    I think we all buy our metaphors at the same K-Mart Aldi.

  149. Dr Faustus

    Yep – it would be interesting to have a night on the piss with the head guys from Chevron and others to ask them what they really thought of Australia.

    The Turnbull Golden Success Team were given a gypsies warning via APPEA (and probably individually by the majors) about the sovereign risk consequences of fucking around with the PRRT (yet again) in the budget – and blinked.

    At present there are a raft of gas projects in the FEED/pre-FEED stage waiting to see what Shorten/Bowen have in store. Australia is well and truly on the ‘watch list’ for its expensive, politically-driven cost structures and unstable fiscal terms.

    Winter is coming. But, luckily, we have the NDIS.

  150. thefrolickingmole

    I think we need to crowd fund an unconventionally handsome bald person with a mental illness to attend this and do some minute by minute reporting.
    Theres enough in this article, if mocked properly, for a netflix series.

    Cannabis tourism in California – a women’s wellness retreat with puff love

    An in tents experience … guests at a Ganja Goddess Getaway take part in a workshop
    Wearing a T-shirt with the slogan “Mary Jane Smokewear”, a woman with long, grey pigtails crawled towards me, offering a hit off a balloon bag inflated with marijuana vapours. I was sitting cross-legged under a Ganja Goddess Getaway-branded gazebo on a perfect California afternoon and it was the umpteenth time that day that a stranger had come over, unprompted, to share their weed.
    ..
    I found about 135 “goddesses” engaged in a ritual of “puff and pass”. Twentysomething girls sporting cannabis-leaf-motif leggings shared bongs with middle-aged women dressed in loungewear. Others passed spliffs around the hot tub, lined up for henna tattoos, or got cannabis oil massages. Two friends who had “followed” the pungent aromas all the way from Chile snored peacefully through a Laughter Yoga class.

    This makes the retreat less a group slump in front of Netflix and more a series of wellness seminars wherein the crowd passes weed around while listening to talks with topics such as Give Plants A Chance. During this, Bagdasarian recounted the inability of Prozac to assuage her depression. She railed against accepted norms of big pharma, sugar and a culture of chemicals. But cannabis, Bagdasarian said, was a healer. Everyone was paying attention until a butterfly flapped into the gazebo, drawing an en masse, distracted “woooah”.

    “No one’s judging,” said a 35-year-old from Sacramento, when I asked what the appeal was. “This is two days where I get to just be myself and focus on me.” Like the majority of women I spoke to, she asked to remain anonymous, for fear of what her workplace, family and friends would think.

    Hippie degenerates, they belong on a cross…

  151. Chris

    So I attended the keynote address to a small Pentecostal, African church’s Women’s Conference, accompanying a speaker.
    Wow.
    What terrific people to meet and get to know.
    What enthusiastic Christianity.
    God has some great people among His saints.

  152. cohenite

    Goldman Sachs has been hired to sell a 50 per cent stake in the Vales Point power station, which was sold by the NSW government in 2015 for $1 million but is now valued at $722m.

    The asset is owned by Trevor St Baker and Brian Flannery and it is understood that Mr Flannery is a seller of his interest.

    Alinta Energy, owned by Chow Tai Fook, could be an interested buyer.

    The NSW government sold the Vales Point Coal Fired Power Station at Lake Macquarie in NSW in 2015 for $1m.

    Mr St Baker founded energy retailer ERM Power.

    Mr Flannery, whose wealth is estimated by BRW at $817m, is a coal baron and co-founder of White Energy and was a bit player in the Independent Commission Against Corruption’s investigation into former Labor powerbroker Eddie Obeid and the coal lease over his Hunter Region family farm. Mr Flannery was not found to be corrupt.

    So they sold Liddell for nothing and Vales Point for 1 million. Public executions is too good for these bastards.

  153. H B Bear

    At present there are a raft of gas projects in the FEED/pre-FEED stage waiting to see what Shorten/Bowen have in store. Australia is well and truly on the ‘watch list’ for its expensive, politically-driven cost structures and unstable fiscal terms.

    I would have thought the capex blowouts on the last round of developments would have seen a big red cross through Australia for all time.

  154. Chris

    The Turnbull Golden Success Team

    Dr Faustus, that is Automatic, Systomatic, Hydromatic, Solid-State, De-Luxe, Filled-Gold irony.
    Well played.

  155. JC

    Every time you guys watch Q&A, remember this, Springer-Jones and his producer receive annual bonuses.
    Unfuckingreal.

    A more blatant abuse of taxpayers’ money it would be difficult to conjure. This is the ultimate example of the public sector’s inevitable tendency to justify its existence and expand its reach — a virtuous circle of perpetual indulgence. Worse still, the journalists’ union has joined the ABC’s campaign; a body representing the journalists who are supposed to represent the interest of taxpayers and hold governments to account is critical of a minor and admirable attempt at budget constraint because it might impact on journalists. So much for the higher ideals of the craft.

    Not that journalists or journalism should suffer in any financial adjustments at Aunty. We read today, for instance, how the bloated middle management at the national broadcaster will share more than $2 million in bonuses. Some highly paid managers will pocket more than $50,000 in bonuses.

    read more
    ABC paid $2.6m in staff bonusesSAM BUCKINGHAM-JONES

    This insults taxpayers. It is an affront to the interests of all those who fund the ABC. There is no profit to deliver, negligible revenue to raise and no share price to protect; but bonuses all the same. ABC staff who already often receive higher wages than private sector counterparts, have had higher wages growth in recent years, receive more than 50 per cent extra in superannuation payments and typically have something approaching lifetime tenure in their employment, or at least are sheltered from the waves of cost-cutting and efficiencies that have swept through commercial media over the past decade, are showered with bonuses.

    Imagine what their KPIs must be for these bonuses. Recruiting the target quota of Leftist comedians? Sourcing the desired number of stories researched and filmed by animal activist groups or environmental lobbyists? Meeting the global anti-Trump hysteria guidelines and surpassing the prescribed amount of obsequiousness towards Hillary Clinton? Perhaps Q&A producers received a bonus for meeting their 20 per cent conservative target, and the news and current affairs managers might have been rewarded for fulfilling their 100 per cent green left recruitment drive. Was there a bonus paid for the vegan counter in the staff canteen or the Earth Hour candlelight vigil?

    This bonus nonsense highlights how utterly disingenuous and cynical it was last week for ABC director of news, Gaven Morris, to suggest in response to the budget announcement that the first services in the line of fire would be regional news operations at Ipswich, Geelong, Parramatta and Gosford. It has been obvious to informed observers for years that the places to make savings at the ABC are at Ultimo and Southbank, in middle management.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/chris-kenny/imagine-what-kpis-must-be-for-abc-staffs-inflated-bonuses/news-story/c09b8e6959aaab9c706b41a2c9b3ab6c

  156. duncanm

    I think I’ve managed to find a niche in Sydney that works for me – wouldn’t be surprised if many others have similar setups.

    I live in what would be called a middle-ring suburb. No through roads, little traffic, and just close enough to the local railway station to walk (20min), but far enough away that the developers won’t be coming any time soon.

    House backs onto a large expanse of lovely Sydney bush – kookaburras, cockatoos, wallabies, lorikeets, etc etc. The bush (fire-risk) will prevent any medium or high density development. Ever, I think.

    Work is not in town, but in the middle-belt. 30min by bicycle most days, or I can train or drive (blech).

    Weekends involve sport on Sydney’s amazing waterways, a trip into town, or an excursion well away from it.

    Driving anywhere is a complete shitfight.. at just about any time of the week, except weekend early mornings / evenings. Avoid it.

    I do not know how people survive with multiple-hour commutes.

  157. Confused Old Misfit

    cohenite
    #2712169, posted on May 16, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296879/

  158. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2712241, posted on May 16, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    Leigh, the harbor is gorgeous if you live around it. Also parts of the upper North Shore are also pretty nice too, although I’d rather drink poison than live there. The northern beaches (only Whale and Palm Beach) are pretty decent The rest of Sydney is really fucking ugly.

    In other words, if you haven’t got at least $6 meg, don’t bother.

  159. Trump has made it clear that if the net neutrality bill lands on his desk in the current form, he’ll veto it because it favours the big cable companies, like AT&T, Comcast etc.

    I will believe that veto when I see it, bern. He has a long history of reneging on promises.

  160. Snoopy

    He has a long history of reneging on promises.

    Damn straight! I haven’t forgotten his Malmo promise.

  161. thefrolickingmole

    He has a long history of reneging on promises.

    Such as the American Embassy being in Jerusalem?

  162. JC

    I will believe that veto when I see it, bern. He has a long history of reneging on promises.

    Monst…

    The left (note lower case) despise him because he’s actually kept his promises so far.

  163. JC

    In other words, if you haven’t got at least $6 meg, don’t bother.

    Well you could have miles more housing around the water if they got rid of all those parks around it.

    Look at this fucking map! Most of the land around the water is fucking parkland, FFS.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sydney+Harbour+National+Park/@-33.873653,151.1892994,12.96z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b1296ef262e5c37:0x8a0b0bf9b3b707ea!8m2!3d-33.8429452!4d151.2452603

  164. Rae

    Sydney is perfectly fine if you can avoid driving into or out of the CBD in peak hours. I have done a 2 hour drive (5.15 pm to 7.15 pm) from Darling Harbour to Pennant Hills via Epping Road.

  165. Confused Old Misfit

    Well you could have miles more housing around the water if they got rid of all those parks around it.

    That’s to keep rich bastard stock brokers & traders out! Who would ant them messinng up the shoreline with their tasteless McMansions & overpowered boats.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    Well you could have miles more housing around the water if they got rid of all those parks around it.

    And Defence Crown Land … from memory the Army own great tracts of North Head, not to mention Navy bases.
    They all belong up North.

  167. rickw

    Goldman Sachs has been hired to sell a 50 per cent stake in the Vales Point power station, which was sold by the NSW government in 2015 for $1 million but is now valued at $722m.

    What on earth?! Seriously?! We are being robbed blind by government.

  168. JC

    Libertarians push for smaller government because for 90% of the time government just doesn’t work. How anyone could support government intervention in the economy is hard to figure.

    Get a load of this.

    On the one hand the US government subsidizes sugar farming and tarrifs on the other the same government wants to introduce a sugar tax to prevent obesity.

    Cognitive dissonance is common in Washington, but some cases truly are exceptional. One is the ritual of the farm bill, when Republicans who campaign on “free markets” whoop through corporate welfare for agriculture interests. But maybe there’s a stroke of sense coming on sugar subsidies.

    Republican Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina is making a run at reforming the U.S. sugar program with an amendment to the farm bill that may hit the House floor as soon as this week. This program is arguably the worst farm subsidy, which is saying something, featuring a menagerie of sweetened loans, restrictions on sales and import quotas for some of America’s richest people.

    The point is to keep prices artificially high and enrich large sugar producers, who aren’t paupers but nonetheless demand this help to maintain their station. Many producers live in Florida, which is why Senator Marco Rubio periodically embarrasses himself by supporting sugar welfare.

    All of this is a tax on consumers. In 2015 raw sugar in the U.S. ran 24.7 cents a pound, an 84% premium over the global price. Consumers lose anywhere from $2.4 to $4 billion annually, according to an analysis from the American Enterprise Institute.

    Perhaps the worst result of the program is how the effects ripple across the supply chain and kill jobs. The program drives manufacturing jobs overseas—hello there, President Trump —where sugar inputs are cheaper.

    Take Ford Gum & Machine Company, the last major manufacturer of gum balls in the United States. The president of the firm has said he could double his workforce, based in Akron, N.Y., if he could pay fair market prices for sugar.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-chance-for-sugar-welfare-reform-1526425434

  169. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe I am thinking about Middle Head.
    Had some dealings with Army years ago and it seemed they were running about 2 grunts to the acre on prime real estate.
    Shitty old buildings but great views.

  170. Baldrick

    Phew! Did anyone get the number of that bus?

    Thanks for the well wishes Cats and Kittehs.

  171. H B Bear

    Goldman Sachs has been hired to sell a 50 per cent stake in the Vales Point power station, which was sold by the NSW government in 2015 for $1 million but is now valued at $722m.

    What on earth?! Seriously?! We are being robbed blind by government.

    This stuff would make you angry if you thought it was being done deliberately instead of just the usual government incompetence.

  172. Chris

    All the best, Baldrick!

  173. Gab

    Baldrick, you lazy sod. Stop lounging around in bed all day!

  174. Confused Old Misfit

    He’s Baaaaack!
    Baldrick
    #2712277, posted on May 16, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    Phew! Did anyone get the number of that bus?

    Thanks for the well wishes Cats and Kittehs.

  175. Marcus

    Sir Mick Jagger, the lead singer, said: “He used it on every rally through the election campaign … It’s a funny song for your play-out song. When he finished his speech he played out on this doomy ballad about drugs in Chelsea.

    “It’s kind of weird if you think about it. But he couldn’t be persuaded to use something else. It was odd, really odd.”

    He should have used Brown Sugar.

  176. H B Bear

    SAS are sitting on a few hundred million dollars of sand-hills in Swanbourne, right next door to Cottesloe the most expensive suburb on the Perth coastline. Developers would need to be familiar with clearing unexploded bombs and stuff I suspect.

    Given the fuss created when they tried to close a road or something around the barracks a while back, the SAS ain’t moving any time soon.

  177. Makka

    Where’s your doctors certificate, Baldy? Or you’ll be docked.

  178. Atoms for Peace

    We did the rat run around Melbourne and Sydney the other week whilst on a meandering road trip. 10 am and the traffic was still shite in both areas . BTW , if anyone knows of Yellow Lotus Exige in the Melbourne area, great run on the Great Ocean Road. Hope the lap dog on your partner’s lap didn’t spew on the fast windy bits.

  179. thefrolickingmole

    SAS are sitting on a few hundred million dollars of sand-hills in Swanbourne

    The chances of persuading them to give up their Eire overlooking swanbourne nudist beach arent really that good.

  180. Delta A

    Baldy, so glad to see you here!

  181. rickw

    This stuff would make you angry if you thought it was being done deliberately instead of just the usual government incompetence.

    My guess is that there’s some politicians about to get a big fat pay check for their selling of assets at grossly undervalued prices. How else do incompetent douches that no one would hire in a fit become millionaires?

  182. H B Bear

    Mole – closer to zero I think. Not sure I’d want to be overlooking the Swanbourne nudist beach dunes if given a choice. Rather unsavory by all accounts.

  183. duncanm

    Goldman Sachs has been hired to sell a 50 per cent stake in the Vales Point power station, which was sold by the NSW government in 2015 for $1 million but is now valued at $722m.

    to be fair – when the NSW gov was running it, they were losing money.

    I’d be more than happy to sell the ABC for $1.

  184. Baldrick

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

  185. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

    Did you have a local anaesthetic or just bite hard on a leather belt?

  186. cohenite

    abc wages.

    The abc spends about 45% of its budget on wages; all other media outlets spend about 15%.

    In my opinion the abc is the most subversive and damaging institution working against the best interest of Australia.

  187. Peter Castieau

    Welcome back to the other side Balders. Any weird dreams?
    A mate of mine had a quad and he tells me the dreams were the worst thing about the operation.

  188. Atoms for Peace

    Baldrick. They often take the vein from the dick. Stop whingeing. Don’t blame me if you cough and it hurts

  189. Nick

    They think they are an amalgam of New York, Venice and Paris.
    Truth is, it is just an super-sized Goulburn with a bridge and an opera house which never hosts opera.
    Sad.

    True. They are also the most impatient drivers on the planet.
    That said, as much as I love Melbourne, it’s traffic will soon be worse than Sydney’s as there is no infrastructure planned to properly deal with the issue. Melbourne is also full of Leftists who support and suckle from the State’s teat, in all its forms.

  190. areff

    Goldman Sachs has been hired to sell a 50 per cent stake in the Vales Point power station, which was sold by the NSW government in 2015 for $1 million but is now valued at $722m.

    What on earth?! Seriously?! We are being robbed blind by government.

    This stuff would make you angry if you thought it was being done deliberately instead of just the usual government incompetence.

    At least NSW got a dollar. We paid a billion not to build a freeway.

  191. Nick

    A mate of mine had a quad and he tells me the dreams were the worst thing about the operation.

    My dad said the same.

  192. Delta A

    According to Nein News, Myers blaming the unusually warm autumn for their diminished sales.

    No, Myers. I’m not an economist, but I am a typical consumer, shopping the Internet from the comfort of my office, rather than walking the stores for the occasional bargain.

    Your profits are down because you are no longer relevant in the Digital World.

  193. old bloke

    Speedbox
    #2712143, posted on May 16, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    But the cost of housing and living is Sydney is something else. I was incredulous when people told me they lived 50+ kilometers out of the city and in the more extreme cases, travelled up to 2 hours by bus/train EACH WAY just to get to work.

    Try working in Sydney with a 4,000 kilometre trip home. Some years ago I was employed in Perth by a Sydney based company, and they wanted me to spend just under two months working in Sydney. They paid return airfares every weekend, and accommodation at the Wentworth.

    Qantas had a flight Sydney to Perth around 7 PM every Friday night, it was their only domestic 747 flight, which was always near full.

    What surprised me though was the same faces every Friday night at the departure lounge, there were so many Perth residents working in Sydney who travelled home on the weekends.

  194. Gab

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

    Quit yer complainin;. I broke a nail today!

  195. Delta A

    Hold that little towel close to your chest, Baldy. These guys will have you laughing so hard you’ll pop your stitches.

  196. egg_

    The Turnbull Golden Success Team

    Is that anything like The Crimson Permanent Assurance?

  197. C.L.

    Donald Trump has made many enemies in his time, but surely only Keith Richards has drawn a knife.

    Is Keith retailing this bullshit story again? It was wheeled out a year ago by reporters keen to vicariously, metaphorically stab Trump using as their hitman the supposed exemplar of rapscallion Cool. Even left-wing Snopes says the yarn is total bullshit:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/keith-richards-knife-donald-trump/

  198. Percy Porcelain

    They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm

    But enough about the perils of being taxpayer in Venoztraliastan, Balders.

    Here’s to speedy recovery ol’ chap.

  199. Percy Porcelain

    being a taxpayer, FFS

  200. egg_

    They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm…

    Sounds like Grig’s basement.

  201. C.L.

    What was the result of today’s hearing re Pell?

    Conceivably, the request was granted.
    Which itself could not be reported according to the terms of the DPP’s “super-injunction.”
    Which would also mean this discussion would be illegal.

  202. Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

    And then it puts on the lotion or it gets the hose again.

  203. JC

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

    Dude!

  204. Des Deskperson

    According to neighbour and organic farmer Bee Winfield, Donald trump as at least partly to blame for the Ormington massacre:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5734313/Margaret-River-massacre-Chilling-decline-murderer-granddad-Peter-Miles.html

    According to Bee, Peter Miles :

    ‘..loved to talk about the state of the world, and was easy to get talking about climate change or Donald Trump.’

    It occurs to me that the late Mr Miles would have had quite a bit in common, at least politically and ecologically, with his fellow Western Australian, the late John Goodall.

    If only they could have been somehow brought together, Goodall might have been spared the trip to Switzerland.

  205. Dr Fred Lenin

    The disclosure of confidential facts about the Pell case by a court official raises two possibilities .
    First,the clerk has been hot at my the media with a shedload of money,the Pell haters don’t think of the consequences of their illegal actions .
    Second ,the aparat realises it’s in for a hiding in a real court with a real judge this would expose all their rotten criminal activites in the case ,pay the clerk a wad of taxpayers money get him a suspended sentence then abandon the persecution “to save taxpayers funds” it would look like they were out of the hole they dug themselves into ,and appearance is important to these muppets.
    Bet there was celebration at Ritters office ,they now have the ammunition to blow the persecutiors out of the courts,sounds like socialist thing though doesn’t it,elaborate ,vicious deceitful and taking no theought for consequences .

  206. JC

    Des

    But what’s in the “confidential” files that we don’t know?

  207. Percy Porcelain

    This Get Pell Circus becomes more bizarre by the day. What stunt are those irredeemable imbeciles in Victoriastan going to try to pull next – banning anyone from even mentioning him in any context whatsoever?

    I no longer recognise this country.

  208. DrBeauGan

    Glad you’re back and throwing the words around, Baldrick.

  209. C.L.

    Even the lack of reportage about the illegal actions of the court official stinks.
    Name him. Tell us what information he accessed. Tell us what he did with the information. Tell us for whom he accessed it. Tell us when he will be charged by police.
    Are there any reporters left in this country?

  210. Rae

    Third. A religious zealot attempted to undermine the judicial process, but has apparently failed. The trial will proceed.

  211. Percy Porcelain

    If only they could have been somehow brought together, Goodall might have been spared the trip to Switzerland.

    LOL.

  212. Nick

    Interesting the Palestinians complaining about the killing of an eight month old baby, no one seems to ask ‘who’ takes an eight month old baby to an armed protest where the intention is to provoke as far as possible, the other side?

  213. Delta A

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins

    There is an upside – apart from extending your life expectancy for a considerable time – and that is that you are now a paid up member of “The Zipper Club”.

    One guy, on hearing about Best Man’s double bypass, whipped up his shirt to display the neck to navel scar that is, apparently, admission to the Zipper Club.

  214. zyconoclast

    Bureau of Meteorology impacted by internet service providers’ move to wireless frequency

    The Bureau of Meteorology’s (BOM) ability to accurately measure the weather could be affected by plans to move some wireless internet service providers onto its radar frequency.

    The BOM has warned that changes to the radio frequency it operates on, the 5.6GHz band, could cause problems with its radar system’s range, resolution, and measurement accuracy.

  215. JC

    Watched SBS news this evening ( I know), reporting on Gaza. A reporter interviews a woman (but not totally sure as s/he was wearing the reulation black sack) about her 5 year old girl sustaining injuries from tear gas inhalation. Of course s/he blames thems Jews. The reporter forgot to ask her why the kid was there in the first place.

    The rest was unsupportable propaganda filth against the Israelis.

  216. JC

    Watched SBS news this evening ( I know), reporting on Gaza. A reporter interviews a woman (but not totally sure as s/he was wearing the reulation black sack) about her 5 year old girl sustaining injuries from tear gas inhalation. Of course s/he blames thems J*ws. The reporter forgot to ask her why the kid was there in the first place.

    The rest was unsupportable propaganda filth against the Israelis.

  217. C.L.

    A quick Google returns nothing about the “super injunction” request. Which may indicate it was granted because the DPP not only wanted a ban but a ban on reporting the ban.

    From this morning’s report:

    The application calls on the judge to prohibit any publications about the trial until after the completion of the proceedings.

    Prosecutors want the order to apply to publications in all Australian states and territories, including any website or broadcast format accessible within Australia.

  218. Tintarella di Luna

    Phew! Did anyone get the number of that bus?

    Thanks for the well wishes Cats and Kittehs.

    Baldrick, they say you can’t keep a good man down, tell them to take the straps off. Great to see you up and at ’em. Only do as much as you can and then some and just watch where they put those thermometers, mouth first. OK?

  219. JC

    Prosecutors want the order to apply to publications in all Australian states and territories, including any website or broadcast format accessible within Australia.

    They will obviously require Chinese regime assistance in learning how to mass block websites.

  220. C.L.

    A religious zealot attempted to undermine the judicial process, but has apparently failed.

    I won’t quibble with your description of a leftist Pell hater.

  221. Percy Porcelain

    The Bureau of Meteorology’s (BOM) ability to accurately measure the weather could be affected

    They can’t (or won’t) accurately measure the weather now, the monstrous frauds.

  222. C.L.

    It occurs to me that the late Mr Miles would have had quite a bit in common, at least politically and ecologically, with his fellow Western Australian, the late John Goodall.

    If only they could have been somehow brought together, Goodall might have been spared the trip to Switzerland.

    Not if Goodall talked him to death first.

  223. Boambee John

    Baldrick
    #2712277, posted on May 16, 2018 at 6:24 pm
    Phew! Did anyone get the number of that bus?

    Thanks for the well wishes Cats and Kittehs.

    Welcome back, hope they did the zipper up.

  224. DrBeauGan

    ban on reporting the ban.

    But is there a ban on talking about the ban on talking about the ban on the case?

  225. Tintarella di Luna

    Bypass surgery is shite. They cut you open, break open your ribs, deflated your lungs and stop your heart whilst they take a vein from your arm and reconnect your blocked heart veins.

    Gee that sounds like a scene from Vikings, did they let you watch or did the bunch of spoil-sports put you under?

  226. Nick

    After Wolfe’s death, I’ll treasure even more my signed first editions of The Right Stuff and Bonfire of the vanities.

  227. Delta A

    After Wolfe’s death, I’ll treasure even more my signed first editions of The Right Stuff and Bonfire of the vanities.

    WOW!!

  228. egg_

    Do cats, dogs and cockroaches also do maths and science?

    They believe that dogs have a concept of quantity – being predators (like cats) it would be handy to be able size up your quarry/opposition, so as not to be overwhelmed, methinks.
    Goes to the core of neural networks taking (logical) shortcuts in dealing with the real world*, as the human brain does.

    *As opposed to every possible iteration.

  229. C.L.

    But is there a ban on talking about the ban on talking about the ban on the case?

    I would answer but there is a ban on talking about the ban on talking about the ban on talking about the ban on the ban.

  230. feelthebern

    How was the sponge bath Baldrick ?

  231. Nick

    Delta, they were a present to myself a few years ago.
    One other I love is a signed copy of Seamus Heaney’s last book of poems after having heard him speak.

  232. Delta A

    An enviable collection, Nick.

  233. feelthebern

    House prices in Sydney have been crazy for ever.
    You need to find an area pre gentrification & buy & wait for the gentrification to take place.
    The higher the gay population the better due to their outstanding impact on property prices.
    Maybe that’s why QLD prices haven’t experienced the growth.
    Bob Katter said there are no gay people in QLD.

  234. feelthebern

    Nick, you seem like one of our more cultured Cats.

  235. DrBeauGan

    egg_
    #2712340, posted on May 16, 2018 at 7:32 pm
    Do cats, dogs and cockroaches also do maths and science?

    They believe that dogs have a concept of quantity – being predators (like cats) it would be handy to be able size up your quarry/opposition, so as not to be overwhelmed, methinks.
    Goes to the core of neural networks taking (logical) shortcuts in dealing with the real world*, as the human brain does.

    *As opposed to every possible iteration.

    Yup. Which is telling you that them there metaphysical assumptions are embedded somehow in brains of non-human species. Which makes calling them assumptions rather iffy.

  236. Atoms for Peace

    IF. The sacklet was trying to escape Gaza. Kids aren’t totally stoopid.

  237. Chris

    After Wolfe’s death, I’ll treasure even more my signed first editions of The Right Stuff and Bonfire of the vanities.

    Wow.
    I recommend to all Wolfe’s “From Bauhaus to Our House”, but never did I get near a first edition never mind a signed one.

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