Wednesday Forum: May 16, 2018

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  1. DrBeauGan

    <blockquoteNo, no, the concept number isn’t a ‘description’ of what can be sensed at all, and since I said a concept or abstraction, by implication to the example of the soul, first begins in the senses there is no sophistry involved at all. We abstract the concept number first from the senses, but to say that we sense the concept number when we see four or five crows is just daft.

    Face it, DB. You don’t know what a number is. Hardly anyone does. You’ve just been trained to do sums like everyone else. All this crap about corncepts is just you ttrying to force everything into your metaphysical framework.

  2. egg_

    number is just a description of what can be sensed

    Sight is a complex graphical information processing system – Mitch M gave a good run down recently.
    Arky was opining earlier on that much of what is processed by the brain is simply counting (even wrt to colour, but they are simply tuned frequency receptors, viz tetrachromatics) but some form of quantifying would logically be part of any vision system – artificial systems would likely replicate this – they are now better than humans at facial recognition, I believe.

  3. thefrolickingmole

    Richardson has some hide.

    It really isnt too much bother for the people that make the laws which inflict all manner of costs and penalties to have to comply with the law.

    Pollies and their families should be monitored 24/7 and charged for every single breach of any regulation with automatic top penalties.
    After all if Billy Bongsmoke has to follow all the laws that must apply tenfold to those who write them.

  4. Myrddin Seren

    It occurs to me that a possiblity here is that that Halper was hired by Jeb Bush, given that he used to run political spying ops for George Bush, Sr.

    Notwithstanding Halper’s long intel actions for Repubs, strangely enough – as so many connections in the Wussiagate do – he is linked to the Clintons:

  5. Leigh Lowe

    dopey

    #2713495, posted on May 18, 2018 at 10:22 am

    Leishman 10 under at the Byron Nelson

    Finished the round?

  6. cohenite

    Breitbart London is carrying a report that the new muslim mayor of Sheffield (rumoured to have a problem rivalling that of Rotherham) will not propose any toasts to the queen, and thinks the monarchy is “out of date”.
    There’s a good follow-up question that this guy could be asked.
    “How about the caliphate, and sharia?”

    From the comments:

    The West has been feminized and is being drowned in feminist Cultural Marxism. Females have a very different mental psyche to men and act in general to increase genetic diversity and increase the pool of competing males. Even if they are not consciously aware of it, they are still slaves to their sexual instincts.
    Men are very different and promote racial and cultural homogeneity both in sexual preferences and in politics.

    Nowadays it is taken as given that women should be equal to men. This is arrant nonsense. No two humans are ever equal. The move in the West to replace men with women is an evolutionary aberration that that will fail because it represents a denial of basic biological reality. Unless the women are banned from politics and driven out of any business that belongs in the hands of men, the West will die. The Muslims actually have a better way of managing women than the West and they will, as a consequence, destroy the West. The West’s great power was always Christian marriage, which is the ideal way for men and women to live, but that it has lost.

  7. stackja

    Stefan Halper is a foreign policy scholar. He served as a White House official in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations and is currently the Director of American Studies at the Department of Politics, University of Cambridge. Wikipedia

    ‘Cambridge Analysis’?

  8. Senile Old Guy

    Richardson, from above:

    Williams pointed out that there were 1600 candidates at the 2016 federal election. How many of them would have the resources to assess whether they might have trouble under section 44 of the Constitution? Very, very few, would be the ­answer. Even the major parties will baulk at spending huge sums of scarce cash to ensure their candidates are bulletproof from ­section 44.

    What a load of nonsense. Why are “huge sums” required?

    While I have no qualms about Israel taking an aggressive stance against the mad mullahs of Iran who, armed with nuclear weapons, could threaten Israel’s existence, what I can’t handle about this situation is that it is simply not reasonable to shoot 60 people who, from all the footage I have seen, were armed with fairly crude slingshots.

    More BS. If someone is trying to kill you, it does not matter what weapons they have.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mueller flips another Trumpkin.

    Ah so because Mueller can’t monster Manafort because he has money to fight the fake charges he now goes for Manafort’s family. Or in this case a SIL who has just divorced Manafort’s daughter. Yeah sure he’ll obviously be a fine witness.

    Mueller’s modus operandi seems to be to financially ruin his targets, like Flynn and Papadopoulos until they promise to provide “evidence” which on complete lack of any leaks is so insubstantial as to be useless. Which doesn’t help the poor victims Mueller has bankrupted.

    What a charming rogue he is. I hope he enjoys the treatment when the DoJ comes for him.

    Meanwhile don’t miss the Horowitz latest:

    IG Horowitz Finds FBI, DOJ Broke Law In Clinton Probe, Refers To Prosecutor For Criminal Charges

    And this is on the back of the news that NYT inadvertently confirmed that Obama illegally spied on the Trump Campaign.

  10. egg_

    “perception of quantity” for the semantics

  11. egg_

    Arky was opining earlier on that much of what is processed by the brain is simply counting

    Presumably, at a subconscious level.

  12. RobK

    number is just a description of what can be sensed
    I agree, senses seem to be analogue measures which we have digitized. Many animals can tell large from small opponents. Cats whiskers measure the size of an opening and guage if they will fit through a hole. I discovered this as a youngster, when I trimmed my cats whiskers short it became stuck in a hole in the fence not long after. The whiskers eventually grew back.

  13. Slayer of Memes

    Citizenship debacle requires a referendum, or it’s chaos – Graham ‘Whatever it takes’ Richardson

    A high-schooler who wants to join the military must obtain proof of citizenship prior to being accepted.

    Our pollies have to do the same before preselection, but can’t (won’t?)

    Why do we need a referendum to fix an issue a school kid can handle, but a polly can’t? Aren’t they supposed to be the ADULTS?

  14. the only difference between a living thing and its remains is a rearrangement of its atoms and molecules such that it is no longer functioning.

    Gee, it is as if you have never read anything about substantial forms and thus never noticed that by this is meant an arrangement or structure, but not only this, of some sort.

    Its like saying a computer that is broken has lost its soul. nothing in the computer went away. it’s simply not a pattern that works.

    Again, if you read anything on this you would have noticed that a difference is recognized between crows and computers such that the latter do not have souls because they are not substantial forms. Setting this aside, haven’t you simply redescribed whatever ‘lost’ could have meant above by saying that it “simply isn’t [any longer] a pattern that works”?

  15. H B Bear

    Did she get a bonus last year?

    We’ll never know. Of course.

  16. Tom

    BREAKING: the former US Attorney for the District of Columbia Joe diGenova on Tucker Carlson today says DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

  17. DrBeauGan

    Counting numbers, 0,1,2,3, et cetera are descriptors of pretty much arbitrary finite sets, usually having elements which are related by similarities. Eg apples, sheep, stars.

    If you look up a definition of a number, you usually don’t get told what a number is, you get told what you do with them. Hardly anyone knows what the number 2 actually is. Mainly because we don’t care. We just need to know how to use it like any other bit of language.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    BREAKING: the former US Attorney for the District of Columbia Joe diGenova on Tucker Carlson today says DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

    Is he a Trumpkin?

  19. Bruce of Newcastle

    Question: should Trump pardon Obama if it comes to that?

    No.

    That is because as soon as a Dem gets the Presidency he/she/it will pardon anyone and everyone lefty that were convicted of the Wussia! sedition conspiracy. They have to do that or the Democrat Party is toast.

    Therefore Trump should leave it for the Dem to do, thereby owning the raw partisanship and illegality – like Obama did with Bradley Manning.

  20. EvilElvis

    I get a severe case of the irks when someone entirely supported by taxpayers complains that they are not getting enough.

    You’re not an orphan. Striking similarities with the female Adelaide Albino in the guardian story posted. Seriously, aboriginal industries, NDIS, NBN, energy, how oppressive do these costs become before us normal folk really lash out at these clowns? And I don’t mean lash out like the faux embarrassment of not getting complete respect from your pharmacist. FMD.

  21. DrBeauGan

    Gee, it is as if you have never read anything about substantial forms and thus never noticed that by this is meant an arrangement or structure, but not only this, of some sort.

    I have read a little about forms in Plato’s sense. It’s obsolete garbage.

  22. Bruce of Newcastle

    A Coconut Octopus Uses Tools to Snatch a Crab

    Be glad the poor things only live a year or so. Otherwise they’d be enjoying us sautéd with garlic, shallots and a little salt.

  23. EvilElvis

    Why do we need a referendum to fix an issue a school kid can handle, but a polly can’t? Aren’t they supposed to be the ADULTS?

    We don’t. All this saga proves is that the constitution framers were intellectual giants compared to today’s progressive in all but brainpower idiots who can’t play by a defined rulebook.

  24. Rae

    you lying liar

    Who said Larvatus Prodeo was dead?

  25. egg_

    Counting numbers, 0,1,2,3, et cetera are descriptors of pretty much arbitrary finite sets, usually having elements which are related by similarities. Eg apples, sheep, stars.

    Even in counting/discerning the bits (binary digits) that made the message above traverse the intarweb would involve discerning noise margins of “0” or “1” for “digital natives”.
    Presumably, animals could discern fractions of a whole, also.

  26. max

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2713463, posted on May 18, 2018 at 9:40 am
    I did find the “Duff” Cooper diaries most interesting, as well.

    Agreed. But still waiting patiently for the unexpurgated publication of Chips Channon’s diaries.

    The more I read, the more I came to dislike him.

    There was no substance to him. He had a great career, may have been brave, loved many women (a major point of interest for most readers), but he was deadly dull and conventional in a way that some English men on the make are. He was married to one of the most interesting women of his time, so there’s that to be said for him.

    Harold Nicolson had more hinterland.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why do we need a referendum to fix an issue a school kid can handle, but a polly can’t? Aren’t they supposed to be the ADULTS?

    If Richo is advocating a referendum it shows how out of touch the political class is.
    If the pollies try this the result will be a cluebat the size of an Oregon sequoia.

  28. I dunno what a corncept is. I know what a number is. It’s a bit of language, useful for counting things. Or maybe measuring things, depending on the type of number. I deal with representations of them which I can see. Like 4,3,7 and so on. Mostly, what people do is write down the representations and learn how to do the sums with the representations. They don’t need to know what numbers are, only how to use them, and they do that with representations. Which they can see.

    Oh dear, we have a mathematician confusing number with a numeral, and some stuff about numbers being representations without being told what they are representations of, or how representation here differs from abstraction.

    If you are of a philosophical disposition and want to know what the number zero really is, you can find out in a second year Maths class. It’s another name for the empty set. Most people don’t know this, and wouldn’t much care. As long as they can count the money in their wallets or purses, they figure they’ve got numbers under control.

    This is all a smokescreen, the number zero cannot be sensed either (which is why it was absent from mathematics for so long), just like the concept number.

  29. Fat Tony

    Discussion regarding Trump pardoning the various high level players.

    However, how will this play out if there are murders tied in? Would/should Trump pardon any of these high level shits if they had/murdered various people?

    My own opinion is no. To do so would really demonstrate one law for us and one law for them, and in the long run, this would be very damaging to the USA.

  30. egg_

    the number zero cannot be sensed either

    All prey eaten?

  31. Geriatric Mayfly

    Poor ol’ Googles is having a rough trot of late. I see another ABC diversidee push on the horizon. That hysterical North Korean news reader should be head hunted forthwith.

  32. duncanm

    McGregor has some
    serious issues.

    What a messed up individual. The I ultimately returned to my original faith after a long battle with drugs and alcohol. gives the game away.

    What sort of ‘believer in God’ prays for someone else to go to hell ?

    Israel Folau will undoubtedly burn in hell. Or at the very least that is my fervent hope. I have prayed for such divine retribution every day since he last played for Queensland at rugby league in 2009. No one rats on Queensland. No one. Especially for mere money.
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    Next time you quote scripture Israel, why not cite that bit about rendering unto Caesar, champ. You are a pampered, overpaid celebrity whose form does not warrant the money you earn. Moreover, you are contracted by an organisation that at least pays lip service to inclusion and sexual diversity. If you take the quid, champion, you toe the company line. Just like the workers Sally McManus represents. I cannot wait for Nick Cater and Judith Sloan, so horrified about the threat of union militancy and erosion of the power of bosses, to defend a News Limited colleague who suggests the ABC should expand its online business or secure cricket television rights.
    Israel Folau scores a try for the NSW Waratahs against the Crusaders in Christchurch on Saturday.
    Israel Folau scores a try for the NSW Waratahs against the Crusaders in Christchurch on Saturday.

    Photo: AAP
    While not a theologian, I am an unabashed believer in God. I pray. My formal religious affiliation is tenuous. Though raised a Catholic, I abandoned my faith within two years of leaving school to become an angry atheist. I ultimately returned to my original faith after a long battle with drugs and alcohol.
    Suffice to say, I experienced a miraculous event in my own life on June 2 1990, in answer to a prayer that not even I believed as I uttered it. I have never seriously doubted the power of the numinous ever since. I went from a daily drunkard and substance abuser to an abstinent recovering addict in 24 hours. I do not know if prayer changes God, but it seems to change me.
    Frankly, this is a topic I am loath to discuss. It arouses rabid atheists and sanctimonious Pharisees in equal measure. It generates much heat and little light. My gender-variant and Christian friends are bemused that I do not see the choice between being transgendered and Christian as binary. Inevitably, it presents dilemmas. But I just try to navigate them as best I can. Despite the vile abuse of the very devout, I have actually experienced more tolerance among Christians than among LGBTIQ activists.
    But I have no explanation for my survival that June morning other than divine intervention. Laugh and sneer about “invisible friends” or “sky fairies” to your heart’s content. But I know that I was delivered from my alcoholic Gethsemane by a power beyond myself.
    For what it is worth, I pray daily. I meditate. I grapple with my manifold defects of character, with varying degrees of success. I spend quiet time each day seeking to discern God’s will for me to try to live an authentic life. Does that make me a smorgasbord Catholic? Probably. Do I choose the bits of faith that suit me and spend every waking hour having sex? No. I have only been married, once. I have not had sex since I left my marriage, which is not to say I have not been sorely tempted, but I have never gotten over that wonderful woman.
    A rally at Sydney University against same-sex marriage draws hundreds of counter-protesters.
    A rally at Sydney University against same-sex marriage draws hundreds of counter-protesters.

    Photo: Twitter/@therockrit
    Frankly, the obsession of contemporary Christian activists with sex says much more about them than it says about Christ. The teaching of Jesus embraced much more than sins of the flesh. As I recall, he bequeathed humanity an 11th commandment, in addition to those handed down to Moses.
    It is simple but not easy: “Love one another”. I do not see much of that in those desiccated, loveless Pharisees George Pell and Lyle Shelton, with their constant gay bashing. Considering they insist we are such a tiny minority, why do they devote so much valuable time ranting about us as opposed to divorcees? Or those who slander others? Or the usurers of the banking system?
    I am a simple believer with many more questions than answers. I have failed very publicly and very often. I also deeply believe God made me transsexual just as he made every gay and gender-variant person exactly as they are meant to be. Beautiful. Complete. In God’s image and never beyond redemption because some overpaid rugby back too soft to play Origin preaches thus.
    Here is some Old Testament, Israel. For years after Queensland last won an interstate series in 1962, we patiently waited for the coming of our saviour. In 1980 he came home like the Prodigal son. His name was Arthur Beetson. You walked away from God’s chosen people after our exile in the desert to play for NSW? And their rugby union team at that. Fair dinkum champ, I have seen some low things. But that just about takes the cake. People who rat on their state and their teammates for lucrative deals in other codes should burn in hell.
    Israel Folau makes a break for Queensland in the 2009 State of Origin.
    Israel Folau makes a break for Queensland in the 2009 State of Origin.

    Photo: Wayne Taylor
    You turned your back on the greatest rugby league history to turn out for a bunch of overpaid impostors who could not beat time with a stick. You are already in hell, champ. Big Arty would be rolling in his grave.
    In closing, let me be really clear. I totally support your right to damn me and people like me. In my heart I am confident you deeply believe I am sinful and must repent. Fair enough. I also know there are scriptural passages that support your belief. As an aside, one of my dear friends is a man with whom I exchange prayers by text every day. His views are almost identical to yours. I count him as a mate and he is man of incredible integrity.
    But no one is beyond redemption. Judge not lest you yourself be judged. But you should never be silenced for saying what you believe. Nor should the legitimate teachings of any Abrahamic faith be justiciable in any Australian court, nor banned from the public discourse merely because they offend.
    Were that to happen, we would no longer be the Australia that descended from a long heritage of belief in the sacred, dating back to our indigenous forebears and those who later brought their beliefs with them. We would forfeit something sacred. It must not happen.
    But let us accept our common humanity as children of one creator and actually love one another. As I write this, it is International Day against Homophobia and Transphobia. We are here as part of the mystery of creation, get used to it.
    And for God’s sake’s Israel do not be bullied into silence. Just go back to Queensland and don that Maroon strip one last time. I will be cheering you on.
    Catherine McGregor is a Fairfax Media columnist.

  33. Chris

    If Richo is advocating a referendum it shows how out of touch the political class is.
    If the pollies try this the result will be a cluebat the size of an Oregon sequoia.

    Yeah, BABY!
    The pointlessness of all this is obvious. But it’s so much fun dealing with the political class this way, that we should claim carbon credits for it.

  34. Geriatric Mayfly

    the number zero cannot be sensed either
    All prey eaten?

    I have seen the results. A pride of lions all lolling on their backs, paws akimbo (except for the one of guard duty) stomachs at bursting point.

  35. OldOzzie

    Was Trump’s Campaign ‘Set Up’?
    At some point, the Russia investigation became political. How early was it?

    By Kimberley A. Strassel
    May 17, 2018

    House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes appeared on “Fox & Friends” Tuesday, where he provided a potentially explosive hint at what’s driving his demand to see documents related to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Trump-Russia probe. “If the campaign was somehow set up,” he told the hosts, “I think that would be a problem.”

    Or an understatement. Mr. Nunes is still getting stiff-armed by the Justice Department over his subpoena, but this week his efforts did force the stunning admission that the FBI had indeed spied on the Trump campaign. This came in the form of a Thursday New York Times apologia in which government “officials” acknowledged that the bureau had used “at least one” human “informant” to spy on both Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. The Times slipped this mind-bending fact into the middle of an otherwise glowing profile of the noble bureau—and dismissed it as no big deal.

    But there’s more to be revealed here, and Mr. Nunes’s “set up” comment points in a certain direction. Getting to the conclusion requires thinking more broadly about events beyond the FBI’s actions.

    Think of the 2016 Trump-Russia narrative as two parallel strands—one politics, one law enforcement. The political side involves the actions of Fusion GPS, the Hillary Clinton campaign and Obama officials—all of whom were focused on destroying Donald Trump. The law-enforcement strand involves the FBI—and what methods and evidence it used in its Trump investigation. At some point these strands intersected—and one crucial question is how early that happened.

    What may well have kicked off both, however, is a key if overlooked moment detailed in the House Intelligence Committee’s recent Russia report. In “late spring” of 2016, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed White House “National Security Council Principals” that the FBI had counterintelligence concerns about the Trump campaign. Carter Page was announced as a campaign adviser on March 21, and Paul Manafort joined the campaign March 29. The briefing likely referenced both men, since both had previously been on the radar of law enforcement. But here’s what matters: With this briefing, Mr. Comey officially notified senior political operators on Team Obama that the bureau had eyes on Donald Trump and Russia. Imagine what might be done in these partisan times with such explosive information.

    And what do you know? Sometime in April, the law firm Perkins Coie (on behalf the Clinton campaign) hired Fusion GPS, and Fusion turned its attention to Trump-Russia connections. The job of any good swamp operator is to gin up a fatal October surprise for the opposition candidate. And what could be more devastating than to paint a picture of Trump-Russia collusion that would provoke a full-fledged FBI investigation?

    We already know of at least one way Fusion went about that project, with wild success. It hired former British spy Christopher Steele to compile that infamous dossier. In July, Mr. Steele wrote a memo that leveled spectacular conspiracy theories against two particular Trump campaign members—Messrs. Manafort and Page. For an FBI that already had suspicions about the duo, those allegations might prove huge—right? That is, if the FBI were to ever see them. Though, lucky for Mrs. Clinton, July is when the Fusion team decided it was a matter of urgent national security for Mr. Steele to play off his credentials and to take this political opposition research to the FBI.

    The question Mr. Nunes’s committee seems to be investigating is what other moments—if any—were engineered in the spring, summer or fall of 2016 to cast suspicion on Team Trump. The conservative press has produced some intriguing stories about a handful of odd invitations and meetings that were arranged for Messrs. Page and Papadopoulos starting in the spring—all emanating from the United Kingdom. On one hand, that country is home to the well-connected Mr. Steele, which could mean the political actors with whom he was working were involved. On the other hand, the Justice Department has admitted it was spying on both men, which could mean government was involved. Or maybe . . . both.

    Which brings us to timing. It’s long been known that Mr. Steele went to the FBI in early July to talk about the dossier, and that’s the first known intersection of the strands. But given the oddity and timing of those U.K. interactions concerning Messrs. Page and Papadopoulos, and given the history of some of the people involved in arranging them, some wonder if the two strands were converging earlier than anyone has admitted. The Intelligence Committee subpoena is designed to sort all this out: Who was pulling the strings, and what was the goal? Information? Or entrapment?

    Whatever the answer—whether it is straightforward, or whether it involves political chicanery—Congress and the public have a right to know. And a Justice Department willing to leak details of its “top secret” source to friendly media can have no excuse for not sharing with the duly elected members of Congress.

  36. Chris

    the number zero cannot be sensed either

    All prey eaten?

    Nothing to eat.

  37. Chris

    Isn’t it sweet that Cate McGregor writes for a publication that doesn’t do comments.

  38. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nothing to eat

    Nothing comes of nothing.

  39. DrBeauGan

    Oh dear, we have a mathematician confusing number with a numeral, and some stuff about numbers being representations without being told what they are representations of, or how representation here differs from abstraction.

    It’s the numeral which is the representation. One of several possibilities. You are the one who is confused.

    Try to define the number represented by the numeral 2. Just for laughs.

  40. OldOzzieThe Bullshitization Of Academic Life For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employm

    The Bullshitization Of Academic Life

    For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employment seen as utterly pointless by those who perform them. The proportion of these jobs is startlingly high.

    And then there’s higher education.

    In most universities nowadays — and this seems to be true almost everywhere — academic staff find themselves spending less and less time studying, teaching, and writing about things, and more and more time measuring, assessing, discussing, and quantifying the way in which they study, teach, and write about things (or the way in which they propose to do so in the future). …

    In American universities from 1985 to 2005, the number of both students and faculty members went up by about half, the number of full-fledged administrative positions by 85 percent — and the number of administrative staff by 240 percent.

  41. H B Bear

    Malcolm better wind back the hormones. He is beginning to look and sound like Barking Betty.

  42. jupes

    From Zippy’s link at 7.26:

    Spotify’s ‘Hateful Conduct’ Policy Drags The Music Industry Into The #MeToo Moment

    Well there goes half the ‘Stones playlist.

  43. Slayer of Memes

    “Too many people in the media cannot seem to tell the difference between reporting the news and creating propaganda.” – Thomas Sowell

  44. OldOzzieThe Bullshitization Of Academic Life For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employm

    The Bullsh**ization Of Academic Life

    For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employment seen as utterly pointless by those who perform them. The proportion of these jobs is startlingly high.

    And then there’s higher education.

    In most universities nowadays — and this seems to be true almost everywhere — academic staff find themselves spending less and less time studying, teaching, and writing about things, and more and more time measuring, assessing, discussing, and quantifying the way in which they study, teach, and write about things (or the way in which they propose to do so in the future). …

    In American universities from 1985 to 2005, the number of both students and faculty members went up by about half, the number of full-fledged administrative positions by 85 percent — and the number of administrative staff by 240 percent.

  45. OldOzzie

    The Bullsh**ization Of Academic Life

    For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employment seen as utterly pointless by those who perform them. The proportion of these jobs is startlingly high.

    And then there’s higher education.

    In most universities nowadays — and this seems to be true almost everywhere — academic staff find themselves spending less and less time studying, teaching, and writing about things, and more and more time measuring, assessing, discussing, and quantifying the way in which they study, teach, and write about things (or the way in which they propose to do so in the future). …

    In American universities from 1985 to 2005, the number of both students and faculty members went up by about half, the number of full-fledged administrative positions by 85 percent — and the number of administrative staff by 240 percent.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    I am a simple believer with many more questions than answers. I have failed very publicly and very often. I also deeply believe God made me transsexual just as he made every gay and gender-variant person exactly as they are meant to be. Beautiful. Complete. In God’s image and never beyond redemption

    “Beautiful and complete” is a touch different to a sh$tload of medication and surgery, sweetheart.

    OK well, this lady clearly has some serious issues, the main one being that she of course is no lady.

    But looking on the bright side I really like that descriptor “gender-variant” and will using GV as an acronym in conversation to annoy random people from now on.

    So that is one positive thing to come from all this.

  47. Snoopy

    “Too many people in the media cannot seem to tell the difference between reporting the news and creating propaganda.” – Thomas Sowell

    Oh they know the difference, alright.

  48. egg_

    Mitch M.
    #2675611, posted on April 1, 2018 at 12:25 am
    IIRC sight takes up 80% of the brain’s activity, so we’re likely processing spatial information a lot of the tim

    30% is the typical figure for humans. It depends on the visual stimuli and also represents an example of poor design. The information is subject to partial regulation by the retina, then goes to the LGN, which can provide a crude shape form for the image, then to the way to the back of the skull to the striate cortex, very primitive, literally reptilian in structure, then to V1 to V3 and counting(might be others), still at the back of the skull, then the dorsal stream which identifies location in space(parietal, across the top middle of the head), the ventral stream (around the ear region but given the IFN and angular gyrus may well extend from the visual cortices to the frontal lobes), which gives a name to the object. Sensory activity arises primarily at the back of the head, perception involves primarily the dorsal and ventral streams. Then there is the superior collicus issue, still mysterious, and the cerebellum plays a cardinal roll in eye tracking(back of and underneath the brain, often referred to as the “little brain” even though it contains more neurons than the rest of the brain combined), and the frontal eye fields.

    BTW it is very easy to generate visual illusions. There are studies which show that under certain conditions the colours we report seeing do not always correspond to the photon frequencies hitting the retina.

    jupes
    #2675621, posted on April 1, 2018 at 12:32 am
    Fuck. Me. Dead.

  49. duncanm

    Stimpy,

    “gender-viral” might be another one worth pursuing.

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Agreed. But still waiting patiently for the unexpurgated publication of Chips Channon’s diaries.

    The historian, Robert Rhodes James, remarked that “many well connected people went very white indeed, when they found that Channon kept a journal.”

  51. cohenite

    Tom

    #2713516, posted on May 18, 2018 at 10:44 am

    BREAKING: the former US Attorney for the District of Columbia Joe diGenova on Tucker Carlson today says DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

    Link? That would be great because up until now the Trump side has not responded legally at all. It’s time!

  52. Slayer of Memes

    So…. Little bit of a dust-up on the border between the country-that-cannot-be-named-due-to-birdstrike and Gaza the other day…

    News is out that, yes indeedy, some of those killed (50 out of 52) were indeed Hamas terrorists – acknowledged by Hamas themselves

    How did the Left react to this news that their ‘peaceful protestors’ were anything but?

    “It doesn’t matter whether the victims were members of Hamas or not. Israeli snipers, entrenched behind two substantial fences, had no right to use lethal force (killing 58) against anyone unless as a last resort to stop an imminent lethal threat.” – Kenneth Roth, Executive Director, Human Rights Watch

    This is how the Left works. They come out and make outrageous claims, then shift the goalposts when their claims are debunked…

    Initially HRW claimed: “Israel has no right to kill unarmed protesters!”

    Quickly thereafter, when Hamas confirmed the protestors had indeed been armed: “Okay, they were not protesters and they were not unarmed… BUT… Disproportionate force!”

    Now, after Hamas confirmed those armed ‘protestors’ were indeed terrorists: “Israel has no right to kill terrorists!”

    …and then they wonder why people are believing their bullsh*t less and less…

  53. Chris

    The Bullsh**ization Of Academic Life

    For a number of years now, I have been conducting research on forms of employment seen as utterly pointless by those who perform them. The proportion of these jobs is startlingly high.

    A big article on bullshit jobs in The Australian magazine section too. Extract of a book on the subject. Quite enjoyable. Categorised: Flunkies, goons, box-tickers…

  54. Tintarella di Luna

    What sort of ‘believer in God’ prays for someone else to go to hell ?

    Malcolm McGregor is a very troubled individual – Israel Folau repented of his sins – Thank God McGregor’s not God.

  55. egg_

    nothing
    ˈnʌθɪŋ/Submit
    pronoun
    1.
    not anything; no single thing.
    “I said nothing”
    synonyms: not a thing, not a single thing, not anything, nothing at all, nil, zero;

  56. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    What a messed up individual. The I ultimately returned to my original faith after a long battle with drugs and alcohol. gives the game away.

    What sort of ‘believer in God’ prays for someone else to go to hell ?

    How in hell did that get published?

    McGregor must be smoking his hormone treatment.

  57. mh

    The liberal media wants Trump to clarify his remarks on MS-13 !

    What next? Mr President, do you really think ISIS are bad?

  58. Slayer of Memes

    The pussification of the US military continues:

    U.S. Air Force
    ‏@usairforce

    We apologize for the earlier tweet regarding the A-10. It was made in poor taste and we are addressing it internally. It has since been removed.

    3:28 am – 18 May 2018

    OMG!! Like, wow, what kind of gross sexist, racist, homophonic bigoted tweet could they have made that would necessitate such an apology??

    This, apparently:

    U.S. Air Force
    ‏@usairforce

    The Taliban forces in Farah city #Afghanistan would rather have heard #Yanny or #Laurel than the deafening #BRRRT they got courtesy of our #A10

    8:44 am – 17 May 2018

    Yep.

    Leftist twitter trolls were upset over the deaths of more terrorists…. and so forced the US Air Force to apologise

    What does Infidel Tiger always advocate in these kinds of situations?

    Never Apologise.
    Always Escalate.

    Pity the US Air Force has been pussified…

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    BTW it is very easy to generate visual illusions. There are studies which show that under certain conditions the colours we report seeing do not always correspond to the photon frequencies hitting the retina.

    And why are the majority of the helicopters I hallucinate black?
    #notaracist

  60. Stimpson J. Cat

    What sort of ‘believer in God’ prays for someone else to go to hell ?

    An honest one.

  61. stackja

    Israel F is still upsetting all the right people.

  62. jupes

    I am a simple believer with many more questions than answers. I have failed very publicly and very often. I also deeply believe God made me transsexual just as he made every gay and gender-variant person exactly as they are meant to be. Beautiful. Complete. In God’s image and never beyond redemption

    I’m not a psychiatrist, but it would seem to me that Malcolm is experience a bit of regret about cutting his dick off. He’s trying too hard to justify it.

  63. DrBeauGan

    Thing is, DB, you rattle on about concepts and forms because you hate the idea that a number is just a piece of language. You want it to be something that lives in your mind, like a frog in a swamp. That gives you a tie in to your theology.

    We can get along quite nicely with the idea that your mind is to your brain as a program is to the computer it runs on. Which doesn’t give the mind much to look forward to when the brain decays, or the program when the computer gets trashed.

    Tough.

  64. Geriatric Mayfly

    Every picture I have seen of an MS-13 member, makes it quite clear, that if it was in a zoo you would not even bother to raise your camera, unless of course, animal freaks and mutants are your speciality.

  65. Leigh Lowe

    Question: should Trump pardon Obama if it comes to that?

    Come on.
    Settle down.
    No-one wants to see Obama go to jail.
    But 90 days in an orange jumpsuit picking up rubbish beside the I-45 would be nice.
    Reconnectin’ with the bro’s from the ‘hood and being honked at by truckers wearing MAGA caps.

  66. stackja

    LeMay USSAF believed in air power.

  67. egg_

    Nun Study

    Researchers have also accessed the convent archive to review documents amassed throughout the lives of the nuns in the study. Among the documents reviewed were autobiographical essays that had been written by the nuns upon joining the sisterhood; upon review, it was found that an essay’s lack of linguistic density (e.g., complexity, vivacity, fluency) functioned as a significant predictor of its author’s risk for developing Alzheimer’s disease in old age. The approximate mean age of the nuns at the time of writing was merely 22 years. Roughly 80% of nuns whose writing was measured as lacking in linguistic density went on to develop Alzheimer’s disease in old age; meanwhile, of those whose writing was not lacking, only 10% later developed the disease.[4]

    Overall, findings of the Nun Study suggest “that traits in early, mid, and late life have strong relationships with the risk of Alzheimer’s disease, as well as the mental and cognitive disabilities of old age.”[5]

  68. zyconoclast

    OldOzzie
    #2713440, posted on May 18, 2018 at 9:00 am
    EDITORIALS
    NDIS must be sorted now to be effective and viable

    That was along way not to say it should be shut down.

    So, shut it down. Fixed.

  69. mh

    No-one wants to see Obama go to jail.
    But 90 days in an orange jumpsuit picking up rubbish beside the I-45 would be nice.

    Or selling watermelons. Then we’d see if Dan Rather was right.

  70. Slayer of Memes

    Someone call 911, there’s been a massacre on Twitter…..

    Ben Shapiro
    ‏@benshapiro

    Okay Democrats, if you’re that upset about people dehumanizing Hamas and MS-13, imagine they’re 19-week-old babies in the womb.

    11:53 pm – 17 May 2018

    *insert gif of nuclear explosion here*

  71. Tom

    BREAKING: the former US Attorney for the District of Columbia Joe diGenova on Tucker Carlson today says DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

    Link? That would be great because up until now the Trump side has not responded legally at all. It’s time!

    Cohenite, here’s today’s Carlson show. The Joe diGenova segment begins around 21m55s and diGenova’s revelation about IG Horowitz’s recommendation of charges against Brennan is at 23m50s.

  72. John Constantine

    AJL aj lucas announces that the godless commo british caliphate supports shale gas drilling and extraction.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180518/pdf/43v4449pwyyw1s.pdf

    This makes yarragrad, with the looming gas rationing. one of the actual world leaders in stupidity. Proving that if you import millions of voters and promise them generous enough welfare client status that they can afford to send generous remittances back home, a regime can get away with anything.

    Comrades.

  73. Snoopy

    DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

    Delicious if it leads to the hit on Seth Rich.

  74. cohenite

    Mitch M.

    #2713570, posted on May 18, 2018 at 11:32 am

    Biggest Test Yet Shows Einstein Was Wrong About ‘Spooky Action at a Distance’

    Fascinating; a marrying of QM weirdness and macro precision. Murray Gell-Mann spoke about the Protean character of the QM world and a threshold between the QM and the macro world where the magic of QM cannot exist and decoherence occurs. If quantum features can be transferred to the classical world, watch out.

  75. Roger

    the obsession of contemporary Christian activists with sex says much more about them than it says about Christ.

    It’s a sex obsessed society, Malcolm; Christian apologists are entitled to address that.

    The teaching of Jesus embraced much more than sins of the flesh. As I recall, he bequeathed humanity an 11th commandment, in addition to those handed down to Moses. It is simple but not easy: “Love one another”.

    A Bible text without a context is often just a pretext, Malcolm. The command to love one another doesn’t abolish the other ten. In fact, Jesus defined love as keeping the commandments – love God, love your neighbour. Such love doesn’t necessarily involve remaining silent when your neighbour is parading his sexual deviancy all over the public square, it actually means addressing his deviancy – speaking the truth in love – in order to save him from its consequences.

  76. zyconoclast

    Baby Bust: Fertility is Declining the Most Among Minority Women

    It doesn’t matter because you can import as many minorities as you need.

  77. Stimpson J. Cat

    Monty, I am posting this for you now so in three years time you know your options.

    What Do You Say to a Four Year Old White Supremacist?

  78. rickw

    A high-schooler who wants to join the military must obtain proof of citizenship prior to being accepted.

    Our pollies have to do the same before preselection, but can’t (won’t?)

    Two sets of rules, loads for us, none for them. Australia’s politicians are well beyond embarrassing.

  79. OldOzzie

    Robert Mueller’s Flock Shooting Fiasco

    The first anniversary of this “investigation to nowhere” finally revealed the real character of Special Counsel Robert Mueller with a stunning series of blunders. It turns out Mueller isn’t really a dreaded “witch hunter,” much less Inspector Javert. Mueller instead turns out to be Elmer Fudd.

    Fudd’s declared target, Daffy Duck, lost no sleep over his murderous intentions. Elmer Fudd was a flock hunter. Lacking the ability to aim and hit a target, he would aim at the whole flock of birds overhead, assuming something just had to fall. It might be a bluebird, a whooping crane, or a California condor for that matter, but none could doubt the seriousness of his intentions.

    The only reason anyone could be surprised, given Mueller’s record of frequent failures as a prosecutor and as Director of the FBI throughout his career, is that he has somehow managed to delude intelligent people into thinking that with his blue-chip credentials, he was not only competent but even able.

  80. John Constantine

    RIO announce 200 robot trains coming in project autohaul.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180518/pdf/43v3wg8xq3mdc6.pdf

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    What sort of ‘believer in God’ prays for someone else to go to hell ?

    An honest one.

    Matthew 5:43-48

    43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

    No Christian prays for someone to go to Hell. They pray for them to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

  82. Roger

    Overall, findings of the Nun Study suggest “that traits in early, mid, and late life have strong relationships with the risk of Alzheimer’s disease, as well as the mental and cognitive disabilities of old age.”

    Fascinating, egg_.

  83. zyconoclast

    130 Congressmen Urge Trump To Continue Granting Work Permit For H-1B Visa Spouses

    A bipartisan group of 130 U.S. lawmakers led by influential Indian-American Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal has urged the Trump administration to continue granting work authorisation to certain dependent spouses of non-immigrant workers holding H-1B visas, the most sought-after among Indian IT professionals.

    Pramila obviously ignored this report

    95% graduating engineers are not employable for software development jobs!

  84. dopey

    Leishman 61. Leads by 3. Scotty 67.

  85. zyconoclast

    93% of migrant s3x crimes in Finland are committed by migrants from Islamic countries – Study

    An investigation into Finland’s police data by the country’s police academy, shows that 131 Finnish citizens became victims of s3x crimes committed by asylum seekers in the year 2016.

    A total of 1052 asylum seekers were suspected of crimes in 2016 and virtually all were men, who together represented 29 nations. Two thirds were Iraqis and the age of the suspects was evenly distributed.

    Finnish women were victims in 8 out of 10 cases committed by mostly Muslim asylum seekers: 108 out of 116 suspects of s3xual offenses came from Islamic countries like Iraq (83), Afghanistan (14) or Morocco (6).

    Almost half of s3xual offenses were committed against Finnish girls under the age of 18 of which some were seeking men to access tobacco and drugs, the study says.

    Among the s3xual offenses that asylum seekers were suspected of [email protected] is the most common, with 32% of the reports. Almost one in 7 cases, or 16%, were about was gang [email protected] and another 16% of the reports were for s3xual harassment.

    3 out of 5 s3xual assault with asylum seekers as suspected offenders occurred in public places, 1 in 5 in private homes, 1 in 10 at refugee centres and 1 in 4 in unknown places.

    The police academy’s investigation of migrant crime is the first of its kind in Finland. Only serious crimes and not violations of Finland’s asylum rules were incorporated into the study.

  86. Mitch M.

    This physicist’s ideas of time will blow your mind

    The article reminds me of Archimede’s Point. So has the physicist plagiarized the philosopher Price?

  87. cohenite

    Tom

    #2713590, posted on May 18, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Thanks Tom

  88. C.L.

    Richardson is such an amoral slimeball.
    Sure, the Constitution says no foreigners but, hey, let’s get rid of that because it’s hard.
    Also: sure, I love Israel but it’s a shame 50 Hamas turds got shot.
    Why is this uneducated clown even commenting on such subjects?

  89. zyconoclast

    Is Trump a fraud?

    Revving Up the Deportation Machinery: Enforcement under Trump and the Pushback

    The Trump administration has significantly cranked up the immigration enforcement machinery in the U.S. interior, with arrests and deportations up about 40 percent in its first eight months over a year earlier. Yet pushback from California and other locations with “sanctuary” policies makes it quite unlikely that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) will be able to match record enforcement levels.

    ICE arrests and removals during fiscal 2017 were about half their peaks during the early Obama years, before that administration significantly narrowed its enforcement priorities

  90. rickw

    Monty, I am posting this for you now so in three years time you know your options.

    What I find amusing is the natural order of things, at 4 years old:

    How’s daughter #2 going with her cousins in Fiji?

    Good!

    They assume she’s The Boss because she’s white.

    She assumes that she’s The Boss because she’s white.

    There’s no arguments about who’s in charge!

  91. feelthebern

    I think it is clear that Catherine McGregor has some anger issues.
    Like Bird, we should hope no one gets hurt in all this.
    Sad.

  92. zyconoclast

    Tech industry enlists Southern Poverty Law Center to ferret out ‘hate’
    Amazon, Spotify, YouTube join forces with ‘openly partisan leftist group’

    The Southern Poverty Law Center has plenty of critics bemoaning its fall from venerable civil-rights champion to leftist fundraising machine, but apparently not in the tech industry.

    The Alabama-based legal group has watched its influence soar as the go-to consultant on “hate” for top tech firms, including Amazon, Spotify, Lyft and Google-owned YouTube, in the aftermath of the August white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Those alliances have both astounded and alarmed conservatives who fear that the center’s hotly contested “hate map” is being wielded to deny platforms to mainstream right-of-center groups and viewpoints.

    Jim Campbell, senior attorney with the Alliance Defending Freedom, has already seen it happen. The conservative non-profit was floored after being removed last month from AmazonSmile’s list of charities over its status as an “SPLC Designated Hate Group.”

    “We rely on the Southern Poverty Law Center to determine which charities are in certain ineligible categories,” Amazon told the ADF in response to a query. “You have been excluded from the AmazonSmile program because the Southern Poverty Law Center lists Alliance Defending Freedom in an ineligible category.”

  93. C.L.

    Brilliant description of Mueller. Thanks Ozzie.

    The first anniversary of this “investigation to nowhere” finally revealed the real character of Special Counsel Robert Mueller with a stunning series of blunders. It turns out Mueller isn’t really a dreaded “witch hunter,” much less Inspector Javert. Mueller instead turns out to be Elmer Fudd.

    Fudd’s declared target, Daffy Duck, lost no sleep over his murderous intentions. Elmer Fudd was a flock hunter. Lacking the ability to aim and hit a target, he would aim at the whole flock of birds overhead, assuming something just had to fall. It might be a bluebird, a whooping crane, or a California condor for that matter, but none could doubt the seriousness of his intentions.

    The only reason anyone could be surprised, given Mueller’s record of frequent failures as a prosecutor and as Director of the FBI throughout his career, is that he has somehow managed to delude intelligent people into thinking that with his blue-chip credentials, he was not only competent but even able.

    A “flock hunter.” Perfect.
    And as I’ve been saying for a long time, the man is flat-out dumb.
    He has parlayed a Silver Star and John Kerry hair into a decades-long career.

  94. Roger

    Thing is, DB, you rattle on about concepts and forms because you hate the idea that a number is just a piece of language. You want it to be something that lives in your mind, like a frog in a swamp.

    Science would be impossible without numbers as abstract entities (i.e. mathematics) and not just pieces of language.

  95. Leigh Lowe

    Cohenite, here’s today’s Carlson show. The Joe diGenova segment begins around 21m55s and diGenova’s revelation about IG Horowitz’s recommendation of charges against Brennan is at 23m50s.

    Not sure if diGenova was saying that he had rock-solid knowledge, but he seemed pretty confident that Brennan was in strife …
    diGenova : “I suggest Mr Brennan … is going to need a very, very good lawyer”.
    Carlson : “A criminal lawyer?”
    diGenova : “Oh, yes, a criminal lawyer. He doesn’t need a ‘slips and falls’ lawyer, although he is going to slip and fall”
    Snort, cackle.
    Brennan as a great place to start. I don’t expect he will take his lumps and go quietly. He will take plenty with him.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    LEGAL AFFAIRS
    Cop killer’s High Court appeal for parole after 30 years

    The Australian
    12:00AM May 16, 2018

    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    Canberra
    @gregbrown_TheOz

    A Victorian man who killed a female police officer in the Russell Street bombing more than 30 years ago used the resources of the full bench of the High Court to claim the Andrews government’s push to keep him behind bars would undermine his “human rights”.

    Lawyers representing Craig Minogue yesterday told the High Court the Victorian government’s laws to ban parole for cop killers was unconstitutional, arguing it was retrospective in nature and was incompatible with the state’s human rights charter that prohibits “cruel, inhuman, degrading treatment”.

    Minogue’s lawyer, Christopher Horan QC, said it was unclear whether the judge who sentenced Minogue in 1988 deemed he recklessly killed a police officer or merely recklessly killed a person.

    He added that the law could be unconstitutional as it undermined the jurisdiction of Victoria’s Adult Parole Board and gave too much power to the “tyranny of the parliament”.

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews introduced the bill in 2016 after Minogue made the first steps to apply for parole.

    Mr Horan said his client, who also injured 22 people in the car-bombing attack near the Victoria Police headquarters, would be unfairly treated because the laws were “retrospective”.

    From the Oz. In a just world, this lowlife would have been hanged, and all his worries ended.

  97. C.L.

    Israel Folau will undoubtedly burn in hell. Or at the very least that is my fervent hope.

    A fit and proper person to have a commission in the ADF.
    Obviously.

  98. cohenite

    Mitch M.

    #2713607, posted on May 18, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    This physicist’s ideas of time will blow your mind

    The best monsters in Dr Who were the Angels which conform to this idea of quantum time.

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    No Christian prays for someone to go to Hell. They pray for them to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Your opinion on who is or is not a Christian is irrelevant.
    God and Jesus decide, not chemists or scribes or Pope’s with a refugee foot fetish.

  100. Slayer of Memes

    “Have we reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while other people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today?” – Thomas Sowell

  101. jupes

    Quiz time. Where have you heard the opening to this jazz track?

  102. Roger

    Your opinion on who is or is not a Christian is irrelevant. God and Jesus decide, not chemists or scribes or Pope’s with a refugee foot fetish.

    No, baptism and/or a confession of faith is what makes a Christian.

    Whether they be a good or bad Christian is another matter.

  103. Roger

    Quiz time. Where have you heard the opening to this jazz track?

    Ricky Don’t Lose That Number.

    A lot of creative borrowing in music; it’s usually the lawyers rather than the musicians who get upset about it.

  104. rickw

    Breaking news:
    Trump to Cut Planned Parenthood Funding, Administration Will Announce Friday.

    Munty will be outraged at Trump saving black and minority babies lives.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    Your opinion on who is or is not a Christian is irrelevant.
    God and Jesus decide, not chemists or scribes or Pope’s with a refugee foot fetish.

    Stimpy – I quoted Jesus’ own words as recorded in the Bible to disprove your comment.

  106. Roger

    Steely Dan! Busted.

    The Beatles, The Stones, Led Zep…they all did it, whether consciously or unconsciously.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    Trump to Cut Planned Parenthood Funding, Administration Will Announce Friday.

    Slash funding, is the correct terminology for causes you and the ABC approve of. I hope he pares the murderous outfit to the bone. If he is merciless, these weeks of winning will exhaust me so, that a damp towel and a darkened room is the only escape left.

  108. egg_

    If quantum features can be transferred to the classical world, watch out.

    Massive quantum entanglement experiment could help solve a physics mystery

  109. Snoopy

    Steely Dan! Busted.

    Steely Dan got off to a bad start when they stole their name.

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    No, baptism and/or a confession of faith is what makes a Christian.

    No, believing in Christ makes you a Christian.
    The rest is affirmative windowdressing.
    The idea that God and Jesus are Government bureaucrats that care about such little niceties in the big scheme of things when it is ultimately your behavior and belief that determines your end destination is hilarious.

  111. Roger

    Quiz Time #2:

    What does the opening piano riff on this jazz track remind you of?

  112. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ISIS recruiter’s wife’s failed bid to sue police
    Ashleigh Gleeson, The Daily Telegraph
    May 18, 2018 8:35am
    Subscriber only

    The wife of an Islamic State recruiter who argued she suffered a miscarriage of justice because she wasn’t allowed to testify with her face covered has had her appeal dismissed in court.

    Moutia Elzahed failed in a bid to sue the police over a terrorism raid last year and was ordered to pay $250,000 in costs.

    She appealed the decision with her lawyer arguing she did not give “crucial” evidence about her version of what police did during the September 2014 as she was not allowed to give evidence while wearing a niqab.

    Her then-lawyer told the female judge it was against her religion to reveal her face to men.

    In dismissing her appeal this morning in the NSW Court of Appeal, Justice Anthony Payne said there was no error in the primary judge’s ruling Elzahed could not give evidence with her face covered.

    “The appellant was a party in the case, not merely a witness,” he said.

    “The appellant’s evidence was strongly contentious.”

    He said that the judge was required to make findings about whether to accept her evidence or that conflicting evidence given by NSW police officers.

    “Viewing the appellant’s face while she was giving her evidence was capable of affecting the resolution of that conflict.”

    “The primary judge did not err in concluding that fairness to all parties required her to reject the appellant’s application.”

    Justice Payne said that no application was made at the trial to be permitted to give evidence by some alternative means, like behind a screen.

    He ordered Elzahed to pay costs of the appeal.

    Some justice at last!

  113. Roger

    No, believing in Christ makes you a Christian.

    You’re not far from the kingdom of heaven, stimps.

    But the Bible mentions believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Jesus is Lord (Romans 10:9). The inward act of faith and the outward confession are two aspects of the one thing.

  114. candy

    Quiz Time #2:

    Lady Madonna.

  115. Roger

    Quiz Time #2:

    Lady Madonna.

    The prize is in the mail, candy 🙂

  116. egg_

    Anne de Courcy’s “The Husband Hunters – Social Climbing in London and New York”

    Wymminses pursuing eligible bachelors?
    That will cause angst amongst some unsociable internet nerds.

  117. Some History

    What does the opening piano riff on this jazz track remind you of?

    It sounds like “Lady Madonna” (The Beatles).

  118. Geriatric Mayfly

    Moutia Elzahed failed in a bid to sue the police over a terrorism raid last year and was ordered to pay $250,000 in costs.

    Blimey! I think I have become totally immune to this sort of outcome. And it aint over yet. Sentencing for disrespecting the Court comes up next month.

  119. Snoopy

    Moutia Elzahed failed in a bid to sue the police over a terrorism raid last year and was ordered to pay $250,000 in costs.

    That’s a shed load of dodgy childcare.

  120. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Science would be impossible without numbers as abstract entities (i.e. mathematics) and not just pieces of language.

    These abstract entities don’t have any existence in themselves, they are only descriptions and hence still language. Maths is still a language, a very powerful language which can describe with great accuracy highly complex phenomena. Maths does not exist independently in some sort of platonic-like universe, waiting to be discovered.

  121. egg_

    Quiz time. Where have you heard the opening to this jazz track?

    Isn’t yartz for faggots, Sarge?

  122. C.L.

    Call to police muffins … just another day in nazi Australia:

    Cafe cake and muffin sizes too big.

    Australian coffee and cafe chains have been put on notice for selling sugary muffins the size of soft balls.

    Research released on Friday found cakes and muffins from popular coffee chains are around two-and-a-half times larger than supermarket versions and contain twice the kilojoules.

    Concerned about obesity, accredited practising dietitian Stephanie Liang from the University of Sydney says cafe owners need to reduce the portion sizes of the popular treats…

    Ms Liang says a muffin should be no bigger than the size of a tennis ball.

    Customers are also recommended to share a cake or muffin with a friend of family member and choose cakes without icing.

  123. Snoopy

    Monty, do you write under the nom de plume Roscoe Whalan?

  124. Roger

    These abstract entities don’t have any existence in themselves…

    Where do they come from, then?

  125. Roger

    Concerned about obesity, accredited practising dietitian Stephanie Liang from the University of Sydney says cafe owners need to reduce the portion sizes of the popular treats…

    Who made Stephanie the chief of the muffin police?

  126. Slayer of Memes

    Monty, do you write under the nom de plume Roscoe Whalan?

    Forget that…

    I want to know where he falls on ‘Muffin-gate’, as reported by CL above your post…

    Smaller ‘tennis-ball sized’ muffins, or the larger ‘softball-sized’ ones??

  127. pete m

    Why does the US Air Force even have a twitter account?

  128. Trouble is brains don’t function at all like computers, do they?

  129. egg_

    These abstract entities don’t have any existence in themselves, they are only descriptions and hence still language.

    Several OSI layers from baseband to presentation html just to get your words above onto the display screen – all encoded mathematically from the moment some numpty presses their keyboard key.
    Your smart phone has all of the technology of an Apollo mission in your pocket, from video camera to computer, all done with white man’s numbers magic.

  130. H B Bear

    RIO announce 200 robot trains coming in project autohaul.

    When I did a bit of time in the mine at Tom Price in the late 80s as a sh1t kicker the train guys were knows as koala bears, a protected species. They would head off to work with their eskys full of roast chickens, salads, bbq meats and so on. Most feed their families without ever seeing the local supermarket.

    It has taken a while but Rio has got them in the end.

  131. egg_

    Trouble is brains don’t function at all like computers, do they?

    Nodal networks function spookily like brains – another Mitch M post.

  132. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy – I quoted Jesus’ own words as recorded in the Bible to disprove your comment.

    Except the quote does not contain or refer to the words “Christian”, “Hell”, or “pray”.
    So really your quote merely reinforces my position, that God and Jesus decide.

  133. DrBeauGan

    Science would be impossible without numbers as abstract entities (i.e. mathematics) and not just pieces of language.

    Thank you for giving me the benefit of your thoroughly well informed opinion, Roger. Which do you know least about, physics or mathematics?

  134. thefrolickingmole

    RIO announce 200 robot trains coming in project autohaul.

    My sister wont be happy, shes been a shunter for them for quite a long time now.

  135. Some History

    Call to police muffins … just another day in nazi Australia:

    https://imgur.com/9XJ0rWB

  136. Brian of Moorabbin

    Call to police muffins … just another day in nazi Australia:

    https://imgur.com/9XJ0rWB

    That could tempt me back into the service…

  137. C.L.

    The Muffin Measurement Squad needs a leader.

  138. DrBeauGan

    These abstract entities don’t have any existence in themselves…

    Where do they come from, then?

    We make them up, Roger. Like the Çatictionary, only more work.

  139. Roger

    Maths does not exist independently in some sort of platonic-like universe, waiting to be discovered.

    I suggest rather that it exists in our universe and we have discovered it through observation. It is certainly not a human construct but is found in nature (e.g. Fibonacci numbers). In fact, some scientists are now suggesting that the universe itself is a mathematical structure. That prompts the question, where does this mathematical design come from? It certainly implies a higher intelligence than anything that exists within the universe as we know it.

  140. candy

    Customers are also recommended to share a cake or muffin with a friend of family member and choose cakes without icing.

    That’s sensible, though. A big muffin would have around 400 to 500 calories, about a third of the daily intake for a female to keep normal weight.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2713638, posted on May 18, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    No, baptism and/or a confession of faith is what makes a Christian.

    No, believing in Christ makes you a Christian.
    The rest is affirmative windowdressing.

    Wait, wait.
    Are you saying that if I arrive at the Pearly Gates with my baptism certificate I may not get automatic entry?
    Some fucking insurance policy that turned out to be.
    Next thing you’ll be saying that the 72 virgins thing is just a ruse.

  142. Roger

    The universe as a mathematical structure:

    Here’s a link.

  143. calli

    Home is the sailor,
    Home from the sea,
    And the hunter home from the hill.

    Security at Bangkok was stepped up a notch, probably because Ramadamadingdong and Gaza troubles. Personal searches, bag searches, explosives screen and one of those horrid x-rays.

    No Christian prays for someone to go to Hell. They pray for them to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    McGregor made a silly slipup there. Even non-believers would find that jarring.

    It’s also religiously motivated Hate Speech, directed not at a pattern of behaviour, but at a single individual.

  144. cohenite

    If quantum features can be transferred to the classical world, watch out.

    Massive quantum entanglement experiment could help solve a physics mystery

    The threshold between the quantum and classical world is not just size based. Electrons can be dealt with by classical principles. The principle appears to be when the physical delimitation of the particle is significantly bigger than the wave-length of that particle; if the particle is defined by its wavelength then QM weirdness occurs; if not than classical boredom sets in.

  145. thefrolickingmole

    On the Rio trains.

    Gave her a ring and shes fine, they ran a heap of people through the remote operators course and she was one of them.
    Some problems though.
    Braking: trains are apparently braked from the last carriage first, the automated system is having trouble doing that right, tending to jam them all on at once.
    Wear and tear on the rails and wheels is pretty severe as a result. (not to mention the experiments have still been in manned trains, so the “canned meat” has been flung around a little as well)
    Im sure they will tip enough money into it and fix it though.

  146. Rae

    Dual citizenship. It’s a big deal for those who have it. Bragging rights. Even for those whose grandma is/was British, therefore they can work in Britain for a while if they want to. And likewise for other countries with citizenship/benefits by descent.

    So, I believe that all of these politicians knew they had dual citizen rights that contravened s44. All of them, including those yet to be tested in the High Court (Falinsky, Aly). I think they nominated on the basis that “So what? I’ll keep my dual citizenship. If it becomes a problem, I can just revoke it then, if I really have to. No big deal”.

    That means they lied when they completed their nomination form. That means they are guilty of fraud.

    They should be charged and required to repay all benefits that they gained as a result of their fraud.

    And any and all who are currently under a dual citizenship cloud should be referred to the High Court. Immediately.

  147. egg_

    Malcolm McGregor is a very troubled individual

    +1

    Hot on the heels of David Goodall?

  148. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trouble is brains don’t function at all like computers, do they?

    Computers do not have instincts, not the emotions that intertwine with them.

  149. Snoopy

    I had a Windows 8 computer that was instinctively evil.

  150. DrBeauGan

    I suggest rather that it exists in our universe and we have discovered it through observation. It is certainly not a human construct but is found in nature (e.g. Fibonacci numbers). I

    Fibonacci numbers are applicable to some things involving growth, like the logistic function. This is hardly surprising, given the construction of Fibonacci sequences.

    Look, the inspiration for much good mathematics comes from nature. Points and lines in the plane came originally from pegs and ropes pulled tight on the floodplain of the Nile. But points and lines are bits of language, and they describe pegs and ropes only with massive abstraction, that is, ignoring a number of other properties. In fact keeping very few.

    You’ve got it all arse-backward, which given your level of ignorance about both mathematics and science is hardly surprising. But you ought to restrain your impulse to pontificate, it’s embarrassing to the better informed.

  151. Makka

    BREAKING: the former US Attorney for the District of Columbia Joe diGenova on Tucker Carlson today says DOJ Inspector-General Michael Horowitz has recommended criminal charges be laid against former CIA director John Brennan.

    And the indictment against Wiener is now un-sealed while the DOJ turns its sights on Holder. That laptop is gonna be a hoot.

    mOron: but, but, Stormy!!!Cohen!!!Wussia!!!Qatar!!!Watergate!!!

    (Yawn).

  152. Some History

    Physicists have created a ‘black hole’ in the lab.

    And the physicists haven’t been seen since.

  153. Snoopy

    Physicists Have Created a ‘Black Hole’ in The Lab

    Has anyone seen my keys?

  154. stackja

    Google Duplex beat the Turing test: Are we doomed?
    Google’s new Duplex AI sounds human, with stammers, pauses, and all. It could be a useful addition to Google Assistant or the harbinger of something much more dark and worrisome.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    I had a Windows 8 computer that was instinctively evil.

    Stimpys Fun Facts

    Most computers turned into Lesbians after they had Windows Vista installed.

  156. DrBeauGan

    And tegmark is a whacko.

  157. egg_

    Computers do not have instincts, not the emotions* that intertwine with them.

    Neural networks are not clockwork like a typical CPU.

    *Gives a weighting factor to reason – the distinction from simple logic.

  158. C.L.

    I love how McGregor boasts that he hasn’t had sex since he ‘became’ a ‘woman.’
    Like that was a battle.

  159. Geriatric Mayfly

    Four youths have been arrested over a Melbourne house party where police cars were attacked and officers were forced to hide.

    That’s the hard part. Now for a Hull’s appointee to the Bench to listen to their tales of woe, and give them a few kindly words of advice.

  160. C.L.

    It’s all spinning out of control now for embattled flock hunter Mueller.
    Here’s the thing, Bob. You were set up. You were used.
    Do you even know why you’re supposed to kill Trump? Look what they make you give.

  161. DrBeauGan

    The brain is a semi-stochastic machine, and operates with chemistry as well as neurones. It is very, very complicated, and we aren’t within coo-ee of real understanding. We’ve figured out some things, but there’s a long way to go.

  162. thefrolickingmole

    John Brennan
    Hes head flock hunter.
    Or Flock-head if you like.

    Instead of the perp walk he could do this one

  163. candy

    I had a Windows 8 computer that was instinctively evil.

    Some ocean going chaps get very attached to their ships, giving them a personality, like a living thing. Planes and cars too.

  164. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpys Handy Holy Hints

    Let me give you a hot tip Bruce.

    When you are in Heaven, walk up to God and say “Nah mate these guys shouldn’t be here, I read it in the Bible”.

    After Jesus gives you a hug and brings your head back and helps you put it back on your shoulders because God backhanded you so hard it ended up in Jupiter’s Great Red Spot,
    remember I told you so.

  165. Makka

    Look what they make you give.

    Cool it, Jason.

  166. nemkat

    Dodgy dual citizens aren’t that surprising.
    If they, or their ancestor could’ve made it in the Old Country, they would have stayed there.

    Plus, the average MHR is a oncer or a twicer. Only 3 people out of thousands have had a 40+ year career.
    So, it’s a big ask for someone who’s probably dodgy anyway, to relinquish that other Citizenship entitlement, when it could come in handy down the track.

    Rather than hunkering down, Tony Abbott style, Turnbull should tell Falinski to resign, and either renounce his Polish Citizenship, or fuck off.

  167. Makka

    Uh oh.

    While the finished report has not been made public, one report suggests Horowitz will announce the DOJ and FBI broke the law in their handling of the case.

    Investigative reporter Paul Sperry, former D.C. bureau chief for Investor’s Business Daily, said via Twitter on Thursday that Horowitz will refer his findings to U.S. Attorney John Huber for possible criminal prosecution.

    That would be the newly appointed by Sessions and Trump, US attorney John Huber.

    Joining the dots yet, mUnty?

  168. Roger

    And tegmark is a whacko.

    The ad hom, last resort of the defeated.

  169. Makka

    While the finished report has not been made public, one report suggests Horowitz will announce the DOJ and FBI broke the law in their handling of the case.

    The case; The Justice Department and FBI’s 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

  170. egg_

    Physicists have created a ‘black hole’ in the lab.

    And the physicists haven’t been seen since.

    Nor the search party that went after them.

  171. Mitch M.

    The ad hom, last resort of the defeated.

    Nah. As I previously stated when physicists become celebrities that too often start speaking nonsense. Tegmark is wedded to the mathematical universe idea because he is a celebrity theoretical physicist and that lot need that presumption to justify their cogitations. Mathematicians have been debating the platonic concept since Plato and still can’t make up their minds. When I see such longstanding debates going nowhere I seriously question of the utility of thinking about such matters. I am much more appreciative of mathematical biologists because they are addressing tractable problems and their endeavours represent the future of biomedicine.

  172. nemkat

    Blind eyes must have been turned to many dual citizens over the years.
    Going on Shorten’s threat to go ballistic over Emma McBride and Emma Husar, there may have been a Gentleman’s Agreement between the Majors that no one would ever raise the issue, except when someone not in the club, say a Phil Cleary, got elected.

    Barnaby Joyce had no idea he was entitled to claim N.Z. Citizenship?
    Pull the other one.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    Makka

    #2713711, posted on May 18, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    While the finished report has not been made public, one report suggests Horowitz will announce the DOJ and FBI broke the law in their handling of the case.

    The case; The Justice Department and FBI’s 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

    Yes.
    This investigation relates to the investigation of the “stray server” so the “criminal charges” will be directed at FBI and DoJ staff who behaved improperly during the server investigation but not to any wrongdoing by the Hildebeast and DNC staff in the first place.
    Mind you, it begs the question … if the FBI/DoJ had not behaved in a criminal manner, would Illary and DNC staff be in jail today?

  174. egg_

    operates with chemistry as well as neurones

    Probably how emotions tie in.

  175. Question:
    If the Greens got 8% of the total vote, how come 92% of the legislation passed in this country is Green philosophy?
    Discuss…

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Except the quote does not contain or refer to the words “Christian”, “Hell”, or “pray”.
    So really your quote merely reinforces my position, that God and Jesus decide.

    Shows you didn’t read the quote Stimpy, since it does indeed include one of those three words.

  177. Mark A

    Mitch M.
    #2713713, posted on May 18, 2018 at 2:10 pm
    Mathematicians have been debating the platonic concept since Plato and still can’t make up their minds. When I see such longstanding debates going nowhere I seriously question of the utility of thinking about such matters.

    Whatever weight my opinion carries, Well said that man.

    This debate has been going on for over 2K years and if there is still some bones left over to chew on, then either the participants are rather slow and dull, or the whole debate is about nothing.
    Debating for the sake of it.

  178. I ask the above in all seriousness:
    95% of the worlds ocean rubbish comes from Asia, but we have to use recyclable bags.
    China and India produce 80% of the worlds pollution, but aren’t made to clean up after themselves.
    One religion causes 95% of the worlds terrorism, but the rest of the world has to tolerate this?

  179. Roger

    Mathematicians have been debating the platonic concept since Plato and still can’t make up their minds. When I see such longstanding debates going nowhere I seriously question of the utility of thinking about such matters.

    I would suggest that advances in knowledge mean the old Nominalist-Platonist/Thomist debate is redundant.

    Modern cosmology attadts the criticism of more pragmatic scientists but is the most intriguing area of science, imo, even if it can be speculative. Tegmark’s observations about the predictive power of mathematics are not nutty.

    I am much more appreciative of mathematical biologists because they are addressing tractable problems and their endeavours represent the future of biomedicine.

    I’ll look into it.

    Btw, Mitch, I think you mentioned a few days ago that people of different religious persuausions – Hindu, Zen Christian – can all work in science. That’s certainly true, but the Hindu and the Zen Buddhist would have to pragmatically set aside certain metaphysical principles of their religions to do so. The subject-object distinction remains valid (even with the dangers of unexamined prejudices). Monistic systems of belief like Hinduism and Zen would never have given birth to science as we know it.

  180. Snoopy

    Shows you didn’t read the quote Stimpy,

    That is not the only possible explanation.

  181. cohenite

    Question:
    If the Greens got 8% of the total vote, how come 92% of the legislation passed in this country is Green philosophy?
    Discuss…

    Most people are decent, lazy, mind their own business, slow to react, conforming. Greens are insidious, persistent, overbearing and pushy. Instead of smashing greens in the face people just adjust and put up with shit. The threshold hasn’t been reached.

  182. Zyconoclast

    Georgian Church Launches Annual March on Family Purity Day

    Georgian clerics, their supporters and parish have started their annual march dedicated to Family Purity Day.

    The demonstrators gathered at the Tbilisi Concert Hall (Philarmony) and on Rose Revolution Square. They are moving to Kashueti Church on Rustaveli Avenue, where an outdoor service will be held.

    Afterwards, the participants of the march will go to the Holy Trinity Cathedral, where, in the afternoon, the Patriarch of Georgia will bless the gathered people and their families.

    Mass wedding ceremonies are also planned city- and country-wide on May 17. As reported by the Patriarchate, around 400 couples will get married in various churches throughout Tbilisi.

    The Orthodox Church of Georgia announced May 17 as the Family Purity Day in 2014, a year after the parish and anti-LGBT activists attacked the rally of anti-homophobia groups.

    The Patriarchate has held demonstrations annually on May

    http://georgiatoday.ge/news/10313/

  183. JC

    Most people are decent, lazy, mind their own business, slow to react, conforming.

    Speak for yourself, Cohenite.

  184. Snoopy

    That’s certainly true, but the Hindu and the Zen Buddhist would have to pragmatically set aside certain metaphysical principles of their religions to do so

    Not if they know as little about the metaphysical underpinnings of their religions as I know of the metaphysics of the religion my mum did her best to raise me in.

  185. Arky

    The world seems ordered, going from past to present, linking cause and effect, because of our perspective. We superimpose order upon it, fixing events into a particular, linear series. We link events to outcomes, and this give us a sense of time.

    ..
    Time is shit.

  186. H B Bear

    Nice hatchet job on ALPBC “Editorial Director” Alan Sunderland by the guys at Quadrant. Also provides a useful catalog of abuses by the staff co-op over the last couple of years.

    What utterly preposterous fvcks inhabit this taxpayer funded socialist circle jerk.

  187. Roger

    The subject-object distinction remains valid

    And indispensable, I should have added.

    It is grounded in the belief that we are ontologically separate from nature, which is amenable to interpretation through the application of our observations and reason.

  188. woolfe

    Asia and Africa Winston.

  189. Mitch M.

    That’s certainly true, but the Hindu and the Zen Buddhist would have to pragmatically set aside certain metaphysical principles of their religions to do so.

    Obviously they don’t have to do that because there are physicists and neuroscientists who find Zen an attractive perspective. Christian physicists don’t go looking for God in the cosmos. Intelligent people are capable of partitioning their thinking and trying to establish coherence across all one’s cogitations may well induce insanity.
    Zen as commonly understood is often not understood. If anything Zen repudiates metaphysics which might explain why physicists and neuroscientists sometimes find Zen attractive. What did Bodhidharma do when he arrived from the East? He burnt all the scriptures. So the story goes.

  190. Makka

    but not to any wrongdoing by the Hildebeast and DNC staff in the first place.

    If it transpires that criminal wrong doing did in fact occur during the email server investigation, little Jeff Sessions will be ready and waiting to re-open that investigation – with an entirely new Team Trump at his disposal having cleaned out the upper echelons of the DOJ / FBI and making their own judiciary appointments. THAT investigation could lead to Hilldebeast behind bars.

    Sessions is doing God’s work.

  191. Roger

    ontologically separate from nature

    Distinct rather than separate would be better.

    Not if they know as little about the metaphysical underpinnings of their religions as I know of the metaphysics of the religion my mum did her best to raise me in.

    Yes, that too, Snoopy.

  192. duncanm

    Cafe cake and muffin sizes too big.

    mmm, would that be the same Ms Liang who works at Weight Watchers?

  193. Snoopy

    If the muffins are too big why not buy a custard tart instead?

  194. Stimpson J. Cat

    Shows you didn’t read the quote Stimpy, since it does indeed include one of those three words.

    I did but I obviously missed “pray for those who persecute you”.

    Does he say that you can’t pray for those who persecute you to go to Hell, or not?

  195. cohenite

    Speak for yourself, Cohenite.

    Ditto head prefect.

  196. Roger

    What did Bodhidharma do when he arrived from the East? He burnt all the scriptures. So the story goes.

    I don’t have much time for book burners.

  197. rickw

    I love how McGregor boasts that he hasn’t had sex since he ‘became’ a ‘woman.’
    Like that was a battle.

    I guess chopping your tackle off aids celibacy!

  198. cohenite

    Tegmark’s observations about the predictive power of mathematics are not nutty.

    They most certainly aren’t.

    Tegman’s theory, drawing on Darwin, that science and technology reflect human survival instincts can be applied to the uncharted territory humans are now in with Western society keeping humans alive who if left to Darwinian imperatives would have perished. In other words Western society has domiciled genes which naturally should have not survived. One wonders whether they plays out in scientific discovery as well with QM being fundamentally counter-intuitive.

  199. rickw

    Australian coffee and cafe chains have been put on notice for selling sugary muffins the size of soft balls.

    Research released on Friday found cakes and muffins from popular coffee chains are around two-and-a-half times larger than supermarket versions and contain twice the kilojoules.

    Concerned about obesity, accredited practising dietitian Stephanie Liang from the University of Sydney says cafe owners need to reduce the portion sizes of the popular treats…

    Ms Liang says a muffin should be no bigger than the size of a tennis ball.

    Customers are also recommended to share a cake or muffin with a friend of family member and choose cakes without icing.

    I don’t even think that peak U.S.S.R was this bloody miserable and shit?!

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ms Liang says a muffin should be no bigger than the size of a tennis ball.

    Do t$t and d$ck size next please.

  201. Face it, DB. You don’t know what a number is. Hardly anyone does. You’ve just been trained to do sums like everyone else. All this crap about corncepts is just you ttrying to force everything into your metaphysical framework.

    Earlier this week I said that people who deny the significance of philosophy, particularly, metaphysics, themselves, as Wittgenstein remarked in another context, are captured by a picture. Further, when they are pressed on such matters, they jettison their earlier realism, which is their go-to offensive maneuver (recall how we were told about the precision of mathematics and immediately become pragmatists on defense such that they claim we do not really know what numbers are, or what they are precise about.

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    trying to establish coherence across all one’s cogitations may well induce insanity.

    Learn to embrace paradox my sane children.
    Listen to the life lessons of lunacy advocate Guruji Stimpy.

    Namaste.

  203. Tel

    Certified accredited practising dietitian from university, huh?

    Uhhh, tell me about those eggs again? Are they good or bad this week??

  204. Roger

    Intelligent people are capable of partitioning their thinking and trying to establish coherence across all one’s cogitations may well induce insanity.

    And yet Western culture(s) was built on the belief that reality was coherent and a universal knowledge was attainable, or at least ought to be striven for, through the combined endeavours of scholars, thus the original institution of the university. I understand the need for modern specialisation, of course, but we have lost touch with the original narrative that justified our civilisation, and without a narrative I doubt a civilisation can long survive.

    And on that cheery thought I must depart for now. Those fortifications won’t build themselves.

  205. “perception of quantity” for the semantics

    The difference between perceiving and conceiving is not semantic. I can conceive a black hole without ever perceiving it.

  206. calli

    Learn to embrace paradox my sane children.

    The first last and the last first? And in losing your life you will gain it? 🙃

    On the oversized muffins, cut the wretched thing in half. Morning and afternoon tea sorted. It isn’t that difficult.

  207. egg_

    The difference between perceiving and conceiving is not semantic. I can conceive a black hole without ever perceiving it.

    Thanks, Grog.

  208. lotocoti

    why not buy a custard tart instead?

    Now I have a hankering for a custard tart from Dobinson’s bakery.

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    Earlier this week I said that people who deny the significance of philosophy, particularly, metaphysics, themselves, as Wittgenstein remarked in another context, are captured by a picture. Further, when they are pressed on such matters, they jettison their earlier realism, which is their go-to offensive maneuver (recall how we were told about the precision of mathematics and immediately become pragmatists on defense such that they claim we do not really know what numbers are, or what they are precise about.

    I am bald.
    I’m not bald, because I have some hair.
    I don’t actually know what hair is.
    Hair as a word describing a concept is simply incapable of expressing the sheer glory and wondrous breadth of sheer golden lustrousness that once existed atop my pate.
    Etc etc.

  210. tart from Dobinson’s bakery.

    Why not one from the fashion show?

  211. egg_

    dover_beach
    #2713756, posted on May 18, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    Got any prophecies for we mere mortals about AI/stem cells/abortion, etc. or are you just a nit picker?

  212. egg_

    The EU PIGS sh1tholes are all Catholic countries?
    Goes along with the theme that Islam is used to control the hordes in ME sh1tholes?

  213. I agree, senses seem to be analogue measures which we have digitized. Many animals can tell large from small opponents.

    Calculators are great at performing mathematical functions, but they do not have a concept of number.

  214. cohenite

    Things are going to get worse:

    Snowy 2.0 declares wind and solar power ‘clearly cheaper’ than coal

    Ben Packham The Australian May 17, 2018

    The government-owned company building Malcolm Turnbull’s Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project has added fuel to the energy wars by declaring wind and solar were clearly cheaper options than coal. Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg highlighted the Snowy Hydro Limited analysis today as he urged coal advocates not to be “sentimental” about changes to Australia’s energy mix.

    The Coalition’s pro-coal faction questioned the claim, saying Snowy 2.0’s business model depended on the shift away from coal-fired power.

    Snowy Hydro said its modelling showed the cost of wind power was $70-$80/MWh, and the cost of solar power was $77-$99/MWh, including price premiums for ­energy storage. It said new power from new high-efficiency low-emissions coal generators cost $78-$120/MWh.

    “Regardless of views on climate policy or the future energy mix, what’s clear is the cost of building wind and solar — even with a price premium added for ‘firming’ capacity — is cheaper than new coal generation,” the company said in a document outlining the economic case for Snowy 2.0.

    Mr Frydenberg, who needs state government and partyroom support for his “technology-­neutral” National Energy Guarantee, said the economics of power generation were changing rapidly.

    “You can’t be sentimental about the energy system. It is changing before our very eyes,” he told radio 2GB broadcaster Alan Jones.

    Snowy Hydro’s analysis follows comments a fortnight ago by Energy Security Board chairwoman Kerry Schott declaring there was no longer an investment case for new coal-fired power.

    As the Prime Minister and Mr Frydenberg attempt to head off a backbench revolt against the NEG, The Australian understands Resources Minister Matt Canavan — a staunch supporter of coal-fired power — is yet to receive evidence from Dr Schott to back her claims.

    The taxpayer-funded Snowy 2.0 will provide energy storage for the eastern states by “firming” intermittent energy sources “as the economy decarbonises”.

  215. egg_

    offensive maneuver
    honing arguments

    Sounds like warfare.

  216. Bruce of Newcastle

    Does he say that you can’t pray for those who persecute you to go to Hell, or not?

    Stimpy – He said “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”. How can you love someone and yet pray for them to go to Hell? ‘Tis not a nice place.

    (The KJV text is a little more expanded – you can get a feel for the underlying Greek comparing the different Engish versions.)

  217. Stimpson J. Cat

    The difference between perceiving and conceiving is not semantic. I can conceive a black hole without ever perceiving it.

    Thanks, Grog.

    Well I for one think it’s just great you two have made up and are talking again.
    Civilized discourse people.
    It’s what it’s all about.
    Never let madness or sanity get in the way of a good chinwag.

    😁

  218. egg_

    concept
    ˈkɒnsɛpt/Submit
    noun
    an abstract idea.
    “structuralism is a difficult concept”
    synonyms: idea, notion, conception, abstraction, conceptualization; More
    a plan or intention.
    “the centre has kept firmly to its original concept”
    an idea or invention to help sell or publicize a commodity.
    “a new concept in corporate hospitality”

    Does a self-driving vehicle have a concept of where it is going?

  219. Chris

    “as the economy decarbonises”.

    Treason has one remedy.

  220. egg_

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2713769, posted on May 18, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Grog has more compassion than several on this blog.

  221. Stimpson J. Cat

    How can you love someone and yet pray for them to go to Hell? ‘Tis not a nice place.

    Yet it is a necessary place or it would not exist according to a certain plan.
    And we can pray all we want about whatever we want because our prayers are answered or ignored according to the will of God, yes?
    It is the height of arrogance to think that just because we pray for something that it will be granted.
    Even Jesus got knocked back on occasion, remember?

  222. lotocoti

    Why not one from the fashion show?

    Too thin and brittle.

  223. Thing is, DB, you rattle on about concepts and forms because you hate the idea that a number is just a piece of language.

    Just a piece of language? Surely, that is the numeral, not the number.

    You want it to be something that lives in your mind, like a frog in a swamp. That gives you a tie in to your theology.

    I’ve said nothing of the sort. I said above that number first begins in the senses. In fact, you’re the one that is arguing that it is simply in the mind because you’re arguing that it is ‘just a piece of language’.

    We can get along quite nicely with the idea that your mind is to your brain as a program is to the computer it runs on. Which doesn’t give the mind much to look forward to when the brain decays, or the program when the computer gets trashed.

    Actually, you can’t, and it’s not because the analogy has its weaknesses, it’s because your conception of matter cannot sustain the idea of software which is simply the idea of form. To which I say: Tough.

  224. Stimpson J. Cat

    Grog has more compassion than several on this blog.

    Why don’t we get specific and name them so we can all celebrate this wonderful diversity of compassion together.
    We wouldn’t want anyone to feel left out.

  225. egg_

    Why don’t we get specific and name them so we can all celebrate this wonderful diversity of compassion together.
    We wouldn’t want anyone to feel left out.

    The Royal We?

  226. egg_

    Earlier this week I said that people who deny the significance of philosophy, particularly, metaphysics, themselves, as Wittgenstein remarked in another context, are captured by a picture.

    As in an image?
    Regarding a self-driving vehicle – is it referring to a constantly updated moving image – in 3D?

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Royal We?

    No, the Mentally Ill We.
    It is superior to the Royal We by virtue of sheer weight of numbers.
    And we all know how important numbers are,
    don’t we?

  228. The Barking Toad

    Trooble at mill – Van Oscillate paying out on dickhead Dreyfus…I’ve posted the whole piece from the Oz

    The Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus is at it again, overreaching with his political attacks. The QC is the master mind behind a “hit list” Labor has drawn up targeting Coalition MPs it says still have citizenship questions to answer.

    You’d think the legal expert would take a back seat given his views on s44 differed so very widely from the unanimous High Court ruling which simply echoed passed judgments and threw egg all over opposition leader Bill Shorten’s face for claiming his team had no questions to answer.

    It turns out they did, and now we have a series of costly by-elections around the country many months after ineligible Labor MPs kept collecting their taxpayer salaries with entitlements.

    Dreyfus is now hurling insults at new Attorney-General Christian Porter, calling him “nonsensical” and accusing him of “squealing”. But at least Dreyfus hasn’t yet demanded Porter resign. Give it time. Former Attorney-General George Brandis (who for the record retired at a time of his own choosing) was called on to resign by Dreyfus on no less than two dozen occasions.

    The QC would puff out his chest and accuse Brandis of all manner of wrong doing, non of which ever led to his demise. It became a case of the boy who cried wolf when Dreyfus would over do his attacks.
    And so it was yet again with Dreyfus producing his hit list of Liberals with question marks about their citizenship. Rather than targeting the one or two who do have potential problems — like the one or two remaining in the Labor caucus who also do — Dreyfus claimed there are no less than 14 with questions to answer.

    The shadow AG says all those names haven’t provided evidence that they aren’t dual citizens. The only problem? Many of them have, having lodged documents from the very embassies of the countries Dreyfus claims they might be citizens of clarifying they in fact aren’t citizens.

    George Williams will no doubt jump in to support his mate Mark and make a dick of himself again.

  229. The Barking Toad

    Melbourne youth of no appearance……….

    Former Essendon captain James Hird has been the victim of an aggravated burglary overnight.

    It is believed the alleged robbers entered his home in Toorak between 12 and 1.30am this morning. There is no description of the offenders available, Victoria Police said.

    Where’s fatty Ashton?

  230. Time, Rovelli contends, is merely a perspective, rather than a universal truth. It’s a point of view that humans share as a result of our biology and evolution, our place on Earth, and the planet’s place in the universe.

    “From our perspective, the perspective of creatures who make up a small part of the world—we see that world flowing in time,” the physicist writes. At the quantum level, however, durations are so short that they can’t be divided and there is no such thing as time.

    In fact, Rovelli explains, there are actually no things at all. Instead, the universe is made up of countless events. Even what might seem like a thing—a stone, say—is really an event taking place at a rate we can’t register. The stone is in a continual state of transformation, and on a long enough timeline, even it is fleeting, destined to take on some other form.

    Mitch M, I don’t know if he’s a plagiarist but I’m reminded of Procrustes (and Krauss) rather than Archimedes. His argument has several problems, not least of which is the inclusion of timeline. Further, the claim that there are no things but only events is equally absurd. In fact, the what he calls an event just seems to be a redescription of a thing. Moreover, events happen to things, like the gradual disintegration of a stone over a long enough timeline.

  231. rickw

    No batteries required, cool traditional toys:

    http://www.kovap.cz/index.php?lang=en

  232. Dr Faustus

    It [Snowy Hydro] said new power from new high-efficiency low-emissions coal generators cost $78-$120/MWh.

    Solstice Development Services and GHD, who actually have expertise in this area, say that power from a new HELE generator should cost $40 – 80/MWh – depending on location and duty.

    Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg highlighted the Snowy Hydro Limited analysis today as he urged coal advocates not to be “sentimental” about changes to Australia’s energy mix.

    People need to stop being sentimental about jobs and activities that depend upon the use of electricity. Including Josh Frydenberg.

  233. These abstract entities don’t have any existence in themselves, they are only descriptions and hence still language. Maths is still a language, a very powerful language which can describe with great accuracy highly complex phenomena. Maths does not exist independently in some sort of platonic-like universe, waiting to be discovered.

    Not quite. True, they are abstract entities without existence in themselves. They require mind because they are abstracted from what we sense so they are also not merely descriptions or only language. While mathematical entities do not live in some Platonic third realm they are not purely mental either. We do not invent them, we discover them, first in the senses, as it were, so 2+2=4 was true before anyone invented numerals or engaged in addition.

  234. Senile Old Guy

    Bolt on Dawkins.

    The intellectual “hero” of some (Dawkins, that is).

  235. Makka

    Can you lads draw a line under the philosophical,abstract,metaphysical dramas? It’s riveting stuff I know but your talents are needed elsewhere in shitcanning the filth etc. Ta.

  236. As in an image?

    As in captured by a picture of the world, or a world-view. As I said at the very beginning, Burtt warned against this.

  237. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can you lads draw a line under the philosophical,abstract,metaphysical dramas? It’s riveting stuff I know but your talents are needed elsewhere in shitcanning the filth etc. Ta.

    I truly believe Kyle Ten should have been female. May the Force Be With You.

  238. JC

    Pope Vladimir Lenin reckons offshore tax havens, are going to hell, more or less.

    The Vatican has denounced the use of offshore tax havens and financial instruments such as debt securitisations that are seen as factors behind past financial crises, calling for new regulation that would “neutralise predatory and speculative tendencies.” The document, which was released jointed by the Vatican’s offices for Catholic doctrine and social justice, echoed past warnings by Pope Francis over the dangers of unbridled capitalism. Catholic social teaching has long criticised the inequities of finance, but Pope Francis has given special emphasis to the theme in his teaching, even deriding money as the “dung of the devil.”

    Make a bond issue and you’re heading to the 9th circle according to him. This dude a a crazed commo. Impeach the imbecile.

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