Wednesday Forum: May 23, 2018

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  1. Some History

    Economics 101.

    At the Jethro Bodine Skool of Economix

    https://imgur.com/EtvHgxu

  2. Peter Castieau

    I claim this thread on behalf of Mike Smith and his ongoing quest to see justice over the AWU affair in the face of corrupt members of the DPP in both WA and VIC.

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Was that the sound of 1.5 billion heads exploding?

    Image Of J_wish Temple Photoshopped Over Jerusalem Mosque Embroils US Embassy In Controversy

    As if US-Palestinian relations weren’t already at the lowest point in perhaps all of history, they just sank even lower after a controversial photo (to put in mildly) surfaced of the American Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, receiving a large aerial photograph of Jerusalem as he toured the largely ultra-Orthodox J_wish city of Bnei Brak, just east of Tel Aviv.

    As Ambassador Friedman attended an event sponsored by an Israeli charity, one of the staff members presented him with the framed photograph which featured a photoshopped imagined J_wish Temple in the place where Al-Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock currently stand.

    Given the liking for conspiracy theories in MENA there’re probably about a zillion muslims who will believe the Israelis have knocked down the mosque and built a temple on top. Will we see a war break out over a photoshop job?

  4. Some History

    From previous thread.

    The New Globalist Puritans have their eyes firmly set on your shopping trolly.
    The World Health Organisation (WHO) has called on governments to raise the price of sugar-sweetened beverages by twenty per cent and to increase taxes on alcohol.
    It also supports taxes on food that is high in sugar, salt and/or fat.
    Michael Bloomberg, a WHO Ambassador, has set up the Task Force on Fiscal Policy to lobby for such taxes.

    The deranged quest for control goes on…. and on…. and on. It started with tobacco. When the con artistes of Public Health were asked years ago about a “slippery slope” to other products, they would respond with utter contempt, “that’s just a myth peddled by [evil] Big Tobacco. There can be no ‘slippery slope’: Tobacco is a ‘unique’ product”. Well, guess what? The artistes were lying. Now we have all sorts of internationalist and “charitable” groups jostling, elbowing to get the “tobacco treatment” for their pet target.

    Early last century the American mega-wealthy, e.g., Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, Harriman, were the leading pushers of Eugenics both in America and Germany. Eugenics, led by the medically-aligned, was also anti-tobacco/alcohol, dietary prescriptions/proscriptions. It’s an unhealthy obsession only with the physical state that feeds Statist, “utopian” visions. The medically-aligned and the mega-wealthy are at it again.

    What pops up from the IEA article is the sleazy weasel, Bloomberg, who’s worth $53 billion. Bloomberg (and Gates) have pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into anti-tobacco, much of it to the WHO. See comments here:
    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2016/02/26/what-is-it-with-government-and-dodgy-regressions/comment-page-1/#comment-1958462

    But there’s more. Just in the last short while Bloomberg has been made a WHO Ambassador for Non-Communicable Diseases and a UN Special Envoy for Climate Action. Bloomberg has set up the Task Force on Fiscal Policy to lobby for taxes on food and alcohol. And he’s set up the New Energy Finance summit seeking to expedite the global eradication of coal mining.

    On Monday afternoon, Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire businessman and former three-term Mayor of New York City, escaped to a deserted ballroom at the Grand Hyatt, in midtown Manhattan, to talk about climate change. Moments earlier, he had announced to attendees of the Bloomberg New Energy Finance summit that his philanthropic organization was partnering with the Canadian and British governments to expedite the global eradication of coal mining.

    Bloomberg throws in the hate-loaded “tobacco analogy” – Bloomberg drew an analogy with another of his causes, the fight against tobacco. “If you smoke—and you’ve got to be really stupid to smoke—then Darwin is at work,” he said. “The trouble with this stuff, what we’re talking about here, is you can do stupid things that hurt everybody for a long time.”

  5. Some History

    Snowdon on Bloomberg
    https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com.au/2018/05/sin-taxes-are-regressive-and-dont-work.html

    Bloomberg funding “climate action”
    Bloomberg will continue to provide money for the pact if the United States does not rejoin the agreement, according to a news release from Bloomberg Philanthropies, the charity he founded.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/23/michael-bloomberg-pay-45m-cover-us-contribution-paris-climate/

  6. Some History

    If the gathering of the mega-wealthy in Davos wasn’t bad enough, Bloomberg has set up his own:
    Michael Bloomberg launches China-linked rival to Davos gathering

    https://www.ft.com/content/6f50198e-5793-11e8-bdb7-f6677d2e1ce8

    It’s unelected, unaccountable mega-wealthy individuals (through so-called “philanthropy”) and internationalist/globalist organizations that dictate proceedings. Their target is always policy/law-makers of individual nations, to bring them into collective “alignment”.

    WHAT A MESS!

  7. calli

    Will we see a war break out over a photoshop job?

    We had one over an obsure video. Supposedly.

  8. stackja

    calli
    #2718115, posted on May 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm
    Will we see a war break out over a photoshop job?

    We had one over an obsure video. Supposedly.

    The Message (1976 film) too.

  9. calli

    On the Temple Mount – I wanted to go up there, but the queues to do it go for hours. There is a raised, covered walkway just past the security screen to the Western Wall.

    J-ws and Christians are not allowed to overtly pray there. I don’t know how they police that, but limiting opening times is a pretty effective deterrent.

    I saw a beaut meme yesterday but I’m blowed if I can find it again. Picture of the Dome with the caption “You build this here, and we’re the occupiers?”

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Neat.

  11. nemkat

    Some History
    #2718110

    Eugenics, led by the medically-aligned, was also anti-tobacco/alcohol, dietary prescriptions/proscriptions.
    Will you provide a link to the assertion that Eugenics was against ”dietary prescriptions/ proscriptions”?

  12. Ragu

    On the Temple Mount – I wanted to go up there, but the queues to do it go for hours. There is a raised, covered walkway just past the security screen to the Western Wall.

    How would you compare that to Rocamadour? I remember you didn’t take the walk up

  13. Good Afternoon

    Thread still has that new car smell

    I doubt that will last.

  14. Just keep the smelly socks out of the footwells, Carpe. 🙂

  15. Leigh Lowe

    Thread still has that new car smell

    Just wait a minute.
    Googlery will vomit in the glovebox anytime now.

  16. egg_

    scroll the troll. Ze appears to be conversing, but its just a fucking game and the text is only some of the time what the person behind that particular skinsuit actually thinks.

    Dumkat will argue either side of the coin, as it sees fit, just to be a contrarian dumbass pinata.

  17. EvilElvis

    I claim this thread on behalf of Mike Smith and his ongoing quest to see justice over the AWU affair in the face of corrupt members of the DPP in both WA and VIC.

    Good ‘ol McKechnie aye. Peter, if memory serves he was flapping around during the WA Inc days and always had the whiff of dodgy about him?

  18. Dr Fred Lenin

    Had the other eye operated on for cataracts, really good now ,with both done I now see much better ,my paintings show great improvement too ,ideas flowing for works ,would have to live a very long time to complete those I have thought of so far. So even at eighty years the mind is still very active ,unlike some of my deceased mates who sadly contracted dementia ,a very sad way to live , word of advice from an old codger ,get your eyes checked annually ,an ounce of prevention is better than a ton of cure . Look forward to my daily viewing of catallaxy ,where news is real ,not contrived and untrue keep up the good work comrades . Long Live the Catallaxy Soviet ! Power to the People ! Extreme Right Wingers of the World Unite !

  19. calli

    How would you compare that to Rocamadour? I remember you didn’t take the walk up

    From memory, we parked at the top and walked down (lazy sods). And ate a delicious lunch there, overlooking the valley. Took the lift back up on account of our resulting corpulence.

    No such luck at the Mount. You go in through one lot of security, then down a few flights of shallow steps to the pavement adjacent to the Western Wall, cheek by jowl with gaggles of schoolchildren, women heaving strollers, the elderly on sticks and fellow tourists from around the globe. Another screen and you’re in.

    The queue for the Mount starts well forward of this. The walkway is a timber ramp with a roof. The Mount is only open twice daily, after the call to prayer is done and dusted.

    The large square in front of the Western Wall is buzzing with people. Vendors of postcards and balloons, various religious of the J-wish and Christian persuasion, armed and vigilant personnel, and my favourite – a group of about twenty young men joyously dancing with linked arms in a circle.

    The Wall is divided into a larger male and smaller female section, a fence in between. Chairs are set out for the weary, while others vie for a position against the wall itself. Little pieces of paper are screwed into the gaps in the masonry. I had the tremendous privilege of praying for my grandchildren there, but hidden with my head bowed. Jesus gave rather strict instructions about self-conscious displays of piety.

    I didn’t see much to eat there, unless you like hummus or eggplant, which by that time I was well and truly over.

  20. Mother Lode

    Image Of J_wish Temple Photoshopped Over Jerusalem Mosque Embroils US Embassy In Controversy

    Here, of course, controversial doesn’t mean an opinion characterised by vehement discussion and strong feelings, but instead means incontinent lunatics will start killing people.

    I wonder if the Oxford dictionary covers this?

  21. Speedbox

    Asleep at the wheel. Oh well, in the 20’s is ok.

  22. Geriatric mayfly

    Long Live the Catallaxy Soviet

    Good news Dr. L May you continue to see the best of everything. But steady on with the Vladimir Illyich stuff.

  23. Motelier

    Good afternoon.

    Tree pruners still hard at it.

    I love hard work.

    Really I do.

    I could……..

  24. Geriatric mayfly

    She’s done it again (Behind the paywall) But in Estimates this morning, she was all a scatter about Captain Cook and a planned statue and whose Nation it might stand upon. Possibly the greatest navigator ever, and this dumb clown wants him brought down to size. I recall he was down this way to observe the transit if Venus, an event already well documented by Abo astronomers.

  25. DrBeauGan

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2718134, posted on May 23, 2018 at 1:56 pm
    Had the other eye operated on for cataracts, really good now ,with both done I now see much better ,my paintings show great improvement too ,ideas flowing for works ,would have to live a very long time to complete those I have thought of so far. So even at eighty years the mind is still very active ,unlike some of my deceased mates who sadly contracted dementia ,a very sad way to live , word of advice from an old codger ,get your eyes checked annually ,an ounce of prevention is better than a ton of cure . Look forward to my daily viewing of catallaxy ,where news is real ,not contrived and untrue keep up the good work comrades . Long Live the Catallaxy Soviet ! Power to the People ! Extreme Right Wingers of the World Unite !

    I’m not an extreme right winger, Dr. Fred. I just loathe lefties. The latest sort who are authoritarian shits. I guess I’m a very old fashioned Adam Smith/ JS Mill lefty, from the days when it was the conservatives who believed in the divine right of kings.and were the authoritarian shits. Now it’s the lefties who believe in the divine right of bureaucrats that I despise.

    Glad your cataract surgery worked.

  26. Peter Castieau

    Elvis,

    McKechnie alright. He was the DPP who stopped the original search warrant on Slugs and Grubs being called off and today is (yes its true) is in charge of the WA CCC.

    We can but only speculate who was behind this latest piece of the cover-up.

  27. Geriatric mayfly

    That was The Hyphenated Heifer from SA. who did the history fail.

  28. Gab

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2718134, posted on May 23, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    You’re 80? Wow, you sound more like a youngish 40-year old.

    Anyways, very glad the op went well for you. 🙂

  29. Makka

    Fred, your new eyes have not only improved your typing but also your grammar!

  30. zyconoclast

    More than 200 farmers from South Africa have applied for humanitarian visas in Australia after allegedly suffering attacks for being white, according to the Australian Home Affairs Ministry.
    “The type of criteria they of course have to meet – or the key one – is evidence of persecution, so that’s exactly what we will be looking at,” Home Affairs Deputy Secretary Malisa Golightly said. Home Affairs said 89 refugee visa applications relating to 213 people had been received, although they did not specify their ethnicity or any other details

  31. egg_

    She’s done it again (Behind the paywall) But in Estimates this morning, she was all a scatter about Captain Cook and a planned statue and whose Nation it might stand upon.

    The great dugong Nation?
    Is seagrass great for CO2 sequestration?

  32. zyconoclast

    Salim Mehajer’s sister struck off in latest legal drama to befall family
    Solicitor Zenah Osman, the lowest-profile of Salim Mehajer’s sisters, has been struck off the roll of lawyers for attempting to mislead the Federal Court.

  33. zyconoclast

    Tesla admits Model 3 has a braking problem. The American electric car maker has responded to a recent report in the US.

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    A report from US organisation Consumer Reports – which performs a similar role to Australia’s Choice – found that the Tesla Model 3 took significantly longer to come to a complete stop from just under 100km/h than rivals.

    The compact electric sedan took 152 feet or just over 46 metres – which, according to the report, is fractionally longer than it takes a big Ford F-150 truck to come to a complete halt.

  34. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2718155, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    LAT inventing more ‘hate’.

  35. zyconoclast

    LAT inventing more ‘hate’.

    Too bad they are not asking tom list hate crime hoaxes.

  36. Rae

    Yesterday’s post to Sean Delonas:

    Ba1drick (Dragon Energy) @Ba1drick
    Replying to @seandelonas
    Are you just anti-Netanyahu deranged or the full baby-eating deranged?
    Asking for a friend.

    The reply:

    sean delonas @seandelonas
    Replying to @Ba1drick
    @Ba1drick, How do you find meaning in your life? Do you have any thoughts that are your own, or you just repeat what other people say? Asking for a friend.
    9:00am · 23 May 2018 ·

    Compare the pair:

    DrBeauGan #2716997, posted on May 22, 2018 at 6:48 am

    Sure, None …

    So I would like to know just how deranged Delonas is; just anti-Netanyahu deranged or the full baby-eating deranged?

    Clearly, Sean Delonas reads the Cat. And the Twitter roach’s 4 way brain by-pass didn’t work.

  37. Senile Old Guy

    Yet again:

    A coroner has recommended laxative medications be taken off shelves and be made only available with pharmacist approval, following an inquest into the death of an anorexic woman who was taking hundreds of tablets each day.

    One person abuses drugs, increasing inconvenience (and probably cost) for the 99.999% of people who do not. And coroners routinely make these recommendations, which are too often acted on by government.

    Note that anyone who wants to abuse drugs will usually find a way to do so.

  38. Delta A

    Geriatric mayfly
    #2718143, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    She’s done it again

    From The $Oz:

    Sarah Hanson-Young’s Australia Day gaffe

    Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young wrongly thinks Australia Day marks the date Captain James Cook sailed into Botany Bay.

    Senator Hanson-Young sent out a press release criticising the government for planning to build a monument to Captain Cook, despite a debate about changing the national day from January 26.

    Sarah Hanson-Young💚

    @sarahinthesen8
    Government is spending almost $50m on a statue and commemorations of 250 years since Captain Cook, but they couldn’t tell me in #estimates which aboriginal land the statue will be placed. 😳

    Australia Day marks the anniversary of the arrival of the First Fleet into Sydney Harbour, with the fleet captained by Arthur Phillip.

    Captain Cook arrived in Botany Bay on April 29, 1770.

    “Despite an important national debate about changing the date of Australia Day away from Captain Cook’s landing at Botany Bay, the government has decided to spend taxpayer money it is stripping from the ABC on yet another monument to Captain Cook on the land of the Dharawal people,” Senator Hanson-Young said.

    “The Liberal government is waging a culture war against not only the ABC, but both the Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in our community who speak out against the divisive commemoration of the colonialism that caused the 200 years of displacement and pain to our First Peoples.”

  39. Leigh Lowe

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    Heavy battery pack = too much inertia?

  40. stackja

    Patrick Soon-Shiong REAL TIME NET WORTH — as of 5/23/18 — $7.6 B — owns Los Angeles Times.

  41. feelthebern

    Philip Roth brown bread.

  42. egg_

    Australia Day marks the anniversary of the arrival of the First Fleet into Sydney Harbour, with the fleet captained by Arthur Phillip.

    SHY thinks Cook Captained The First Fleet?
    /Bank Teller Dugong

  43. Porcelain Monkey

    via Instapundit, an article on DNA variations.

  44. stackja

    Otago University seizes and destroys copies of student magazine that depict menstruation

    MacManus said Critic had decided to dedicate the issue to menstruation after being approached by Otago Women’s+ Club, with the goal of raising awareness of menstruation issues on campus such as reliable access to sanitary bins and the high cost of sanitary items in New Zealand.

    Only Women Bleed” is a song written by Alice Cooper and Dick Wagner.

  45. egg_

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    So much for regenerative braking.

  46. Geriatric mayfly

    When it comes to matters on the High Seas, Midshipperson Dugong gets awfully confused. Here she is again up the creek in a bark canoe.

    “Despite an important national debate about changing the date of Australia Day away from Captain Cook’s landing at Botany Bay, the government has decided to spend taxpayer money it is stripping from the ABC on yet another monument to Captain Cook on the land of the Dharawal people,” Senator Hanson-Young said.

  47. The queue for the Mount starts well forward of this. The walkway is a timber ramp with a roof. The Mount is only open twice daily, after the call to prayer is done and dusted.

    Calli, your trip has taken me down memory lane. Even before Intifada, the Mount was a hazardous area. Newly weds in the group I was with in the 1980s caused almost a meltdown by the mullahs when the couple (who were Australian) held hands in the area. We were briskly ushered down the hill by our Israeli guide who assured us we were all about to be stoned.

  48. jupes

    “The Liberal government is waging a culture war against not only the ABC, but both the Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in our community who speak out against the divisive commemoration of the colonialism that caused the 200 years of displacement and pain to our First Peoples.”

    The best thing to ever happen in the history of Aboriginal people was the arrival of the first fleet.

    Apart from obvious benefits such as doctors, dentists, an expanded diet, clothing, transport and housing, it has given Aborigines the opportunity to leave totalitarian tribal life behind. No longer do young boys have to cut their dicks open or young girls marry older men.

    But where is the thanks? What a bunch of ingrates.

  49. DrBeauGan

    stackja
    #2718172, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:52 pm
    Otago University seizes and destroys copies of student magazine that depict menstruation

    MacManus said Critic had decided to dedicate the issue to menstruation after being approached by Otago Women’s+ Club, with the goal of raising awareness of menstruation issues on campus such as reliable access to sanitary bins and the high cost of sanitary items in New Zealand.

    My feelings about menstruation are similar to my feelings about sodomy. Do it if you have to, but don’t try to make me watch.

  50. jupes

    the government has decided to spend taxpayer money it is stripping from the ABC on yet another monument to Captain Cook on the land of the Dharawal people,

    We can only hope.

  51. stackja

    jupes
    #2718178, posted on May 23, 2018 at 3:01 pm What a bunch of ingrates.

    As long as the OPM continues.

  52. H B Bear

    Sarah Hyphen-SeaPatrol is the perfect representative for the people of the failed State of Mainland Tasmania. Representative democracy at its highest.

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  54. Leigh Lowe

    egg_

    #2718173, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    So much for regenerative braking.

    I get the general principle but I don’t understand the limitations and trade-offs (as there inevitably are).
    I would imagine Tesla would be all over the concept, but does the process of scavenging energy during braking impair the braking performance in some way?

  55. JC

    This doesn’t healthy

    A female Muslim employee of a salon refused to wax the genitals of a man, because her religion prohibits her not to physically touch the private area of a male outside her family.

  56. calli

    Delonas believed that Baldrick was tweeting on behalf of others (Dr Beau and OWG, who asked him to) and decided to belittle him rather than answer the question.

  57. Leigh Lowe

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    #2718183, posted on May 23, 2018 at 3:04 pm

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    Sweet.

    My victim hierarchy calculator on my PC has gone into a loop.
    I need a tie-breaker.
    Was either of them a dwarf, an aboriginal or ‘on the spectrum’?

  58. cynical1

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    What a lovely chance at a bit of MGM.

    That’s one ballsy trannie.

  59. nemkat

    Belittle Baldrick, you say?
    He does a pretty good job of that himself, i’d say.

  60. Some History

    Michael Bloomberg from only a few days ago:

    Bloomberg says voters miss Barack Obama and his ‘largely corruption-free administration’

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/05/19/bloomberg-says-voters-miss-barack-obama-and-his-largely-corruption-free-administration/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  61. Up The Workers!

    To Senile Old Guy at 2.41pm:

    All laxative medications should be taken off the shelves and for the sake of public safety and prevention of the usual ordure, they should be force-fed to Bull Shitten as soon as the Writs are issued for the next Federal Election.

    No more Mediscares or other Australian Liars Party verbal diarrhoea or gratuitous gillarding in the run-up to an election.

  62. egg_

    I would imagine Tesla would be all over the concept, but does the process of scavenging energy during braking impair the braking performance in some way?

    I know that in 600t laden diesel-electric mine trucks, regen is heavily relied upon, and the mechanics brakes spared – perhaps similar with Tesla (> 95% battery charge, regen disabled)?

  63. egg_

    mechanical brakes, Chrome!

  64. Old School Conservative

    There is only one thing more stupid than Sarah Sea Patrol.
    A South Australian who continues to vote for her.

  65. Dr Fred Lenin

    I used the word Soviet in its original Russian meaning, it was a meeting of peasant villagers planning the year for mutual benefit ,which fields to plant Which ones to farrow for grazing who was to cut wood for the old people for winter ,like a lot of good well meaning words it was perverted by the lowest middle class communist gangsters ,”peoples “”democratic” “justice “ “liberation” “struggle “ “peaceloving “ “non violent protest”,meaningless from their mouths . You don’t know how good it is to see properly again ,greatest feeling ever . My gratitude to the excellent surgeon and the group who did the fine job .

  66. DrBeauGan

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    Sweet.

    I think she should have done her job.. properly. Waxed him with araldite and ripped off all the superfluities, hair, cock and balls, in one swift tug.

  67. Geriatric mayfly

    I used the word Soviet in its original Russian meaning,

    Thanks for the illumination Dr L. The corruption of words and language has a long history it seems. Now at full gallop, spurred by the same suspects.

  68. Old School Conservative

    Well that was easier than I thought.

    I edited Sarah’s Wikipedia entry to include the Sea Patrol mistake, her error in calling Lieutenant-General Angus Campbell “Lieutenant”, and her mix up in attributing Australia Day celebrations to Captain Cook’s arrival.

    I guess it will be un-edited soon.

  69. Dr Fred Lenin

    I am still wondering if South Australia still has a state government,or have they abolished it after what the gangrene communist shower did before they threw them out ? Is the turnbullist party mob keeping their heads down to avoid criticism from the alpbc quislings ,still I suppose if you do bugger all no one can attack your invariably stupid choices . Has poodle Pyne told them not to embarrass him by undoing weathercocks follies ? Like to be a fly on the wall at pardee meetings then again listening to them would be really annoying .

  70. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1156

    Been a while since an indictment, Mueller is due.

    What is Mueller going to be inducted for? Incompetence?

  71. Rae

    Delonas believed that Baldrick was tweeting on behalf of others (Dr Beau and OWG, who asked him to) and decided to belittle him rather than answer the question.

    Yeah? No.

    The Doc didn’t ask anyone to do anything.
    OWG said to the Doc : “Why don’t you ask Delonas?”
    The Twitter roach acted on its own nasty volition, as it normally does, and sent Delonas a nasty smart-arsed tweet.
    Delonas gave the reply the Twitter roach deserved

    Try to stick to the facts, alta.

  72. Habib

    I’m flat out getting in below the ton these days. Work and moving house is less fun than a lecture on marxist deconstruction in feminist literature, with no beer.

  73. Boambee John

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    They should have offered to have a non-Muslim do the job.

    With a cut throat razor.

  74. Delta A

    Old School Conservative
    #2718205, posted on May 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Very well done, OSC!

    If anyone, in a fleeting moment of lunacy, thought that a Greens Government would be good, they should remember that that bimbo would be the minister for education.

  75. Rae

    This, from the previous Open Forum, accurately summarises the Sean Delonas satirical cartooning talent:

    Delonas doesn’t strike me as anti-j**s but he certainly isn’t afraid to satirise. Brutally satirise is more like it.

    Delonas is not unlike Bill Leak in his ability to say what some would prefer went unsaid (Hello Tom).

  76. Rae

    The Twitter roach? Probably not.

  77. Bruce of Newcastle

    I used the word Soviet in its original Russian meaning

    The Tsars invented the commune.
    Didn’t work out well for them.

  78. Oh look it’s a troll getting the attention it craves.

  79. Speedbox

    Heavy battery pack = too much inertia?

    Yeah, maybe. But I think that Tesla have a bigger problem. Namely, that they have squandered their advantage over the major vehicle manufacturers by over-promising and under-delivering.

    The major vehicle manufacturers have other issues but if they are good at anything, it is mass production. They have designers and engineers, testing facilities, manufacturing plants, component manufacturers, dealer networks and formidable budgets. And, whilst the early electric or dual powered offerings by the major manufacturers were clunky and hideous, it was also obvious that these ugly prototypes were simply testbeds and did not represent actual vehicle to be released. It was just the manufacturers signalling that they are active in electric vehicle research. (Their designers must have laughed like children to see who could design a more hideous, less marketable vehicle).

    All the while, Musk is promising, and not sufficiently delivering.

    Now of course, all the majors such as GM, Daimler, VW, Ford, Renault, Toyota, Honda, BMW et al have electric or dual powered vehicles in their lineup. And all are backed by vehicle warranties and service networks with an increasing number of vehicles to be released in the coming months and years.

    All the while, Musk is promising, and not sufficiently delivering.

    Some say that owning a Tesla is an elitist symbol. Yeah maybe, but it remains to be seen how many stick with that symbol when models from Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes, Lexus, Volvo and BMW are routinely available at comparable cost. Given that some models from those manufacturers are available now, that can only count as a lost sale to Tesla.

    I am not anti-Tesla or anti-Musk per se but I very much doubt whether Tesla Motors will be able to withstand the coming electric* (or dual powered) vehicle tsunami.

    * Electric powered vehicles face significant obstacles with regard to range and re-charging facilities. However, for the “average commuter”, these issues may become irrelevant in the not-to-distant future. Once the range of an all electric vehicle meets or exceeds 300km (fully laden with 5 passengers and air cond operating), that will be a game changer as it will mean extended day trips will be viable.

  80. stackja

    notafan – confusion on who is who. Is three or four?

  81. stackja

    Electric cars need long extension cords.

  82. zyconoclast #2718159, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    Tesla admits Model 3 has a braking problem. The American electric car maker has responded to a recent report in the US.

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    A report from US organisation Consumer Reports – which performs a similar role to Australia’s Choice – found that the Tesla Model 3 took significantly longer to come to a complete stop from just under 100km/h than rivals.

    The compact electric sedan took 152 feet or just over 46 metres – which, according to the report, is fractionally longer than it takes a big Ford F-150 truck to come to a complete halt.

    A conventional vehicle just has conventional brakes. Stopping involves one system (although the driver could utilise engine braking).
    An electric or hybrid vehicle is always trying to conserve as much energy as possible via regeneration to the battery rather than as heat in the brakes. The car has to decide how much it can achieve via regeration (all or part) and has to allow for responsiveness to the driver (since the regen system may not be as fast to adjust as the driver would like). These compromised may contribute to reduced performance in hard stops.

  83. Rae

    Gosford Anglican Church Saturday Night Mass

    Christchurch, Gosford

    Saturday 6 pm: St Mary’s
    A quiet, contemplative Communion service without hymns in the beautiful and intimate space of St Mary’s.

  84. Dr Faustus

    How long does it take to stop a Tesla Model 3? Longer than it should, apparently.

    Elon Musk responded to the report by tweeting that the issue can be fixed by an over-the-air firmware update that the company will be rolling out in the next few days and that Tesla will continue to refine the braking system.

    Sounds like the on-board computer was programmed to be too slow in switching from regenerative to mechanical braking under hard stop conditions. In layperson terms: Tesla decided that it was better to maximise Earth-saving at the expense of increasing the risk of the car mowing down a pedestrian.

  85. Habib

    Smoked a Tesla S from the lights yesterday on my 60 year old, lead fuel burning Coventry-built twin cylinder motorcycle. The smug Gyppo driving was slightly less happy than he’d have been if I’d been a sheila.

  86. Old School Conservative

    Alberici in trouble again.
    ABC amends one aspect of her story about innovation after a Turnbull complaint.
    Several other aspects of Turnbull’s complaint are left untouched after an internal ABC investigation clears her.

    Of course.

  87. stackja

    Andrew Strogylos, 36, appeared before Burwood Local Court today after police charged him with assault occasioning actual bodily harm and common assault following a visit to the Zinia Brothel in Strathfield South at 6.44pm on March 16.

    The brothel workers reported the incident to police shortly after Strogylos left and a few weeks later on April 27 they arrested him at his Belmore home allegedly uncovering a stash of steroids in his bedroom.

    Strogylos, who is on remand after being refused bail, is facing five charges of possess a prohibited drug and supply of prohibited drug with police also allegedly uncovering a number of pills and other drugs.

  88. stackja

    Communist fan seeking attention.

  89. thefrolickingmole

    A new troll song

    I trolled myself today
    To see if I still feel
    I focus on the stupid
    The only thing that’s real
    The commentators tears me a hole
    My stupidity almost stings
    Try to pretend it all away
    But I remember everything
    What have I become
    My sweetest blog
    Everything I know
    Goes to shit in the end
    And you could have it all
    My mummie suit and all…

  90. old bloke

    Steve Kates, if you are home….

    Your post yesterday lauding the late Bernard Lewis overlooked many short-falls in his writing, in particular, the dreadful living conditions for non-believers in Islamic countries (a topic which Lewis studiously avoided).

    I may sound rather harsh, but I see Lewis as more an apologist for Islam than a defender of western liberal values. Hugh Fitzgerald penned an excellent essay about Lewis some years ago which is still worth a read, it can be found here.

  91. Dr Fred Lenin

    Bruce I suppose when a group of people live in an environment where they get cut off for months by snow in winter community spirit is a necessity ,that’s why they never turned a stranger away ,a night in the open was a death sentence , the Russian peasants are noted for their hospitality and generosity ,sharing is a tradition .

  92. JC

    I’ve always admired David Tepper. He’s one of the most successful hedge fund managers the world has seen. He owns football teams. He gives millions away to charity.

    As someone said, if they’re going to eat the rich, spare David Tepper as he’s a decent guy.

    I always look out for his market views as I think he’s one of the honest guys around in terms of the big names.

    https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/999105287381536768

  93. egg_

    Sounds like the on-board computer was programmed to be too slow in switching from regenerative to mechanical braking under hard stop conditions. In layperson terms: Tesla decided that it was better to maximise Earth-saving at the expense of increasing the risk of the car mowing down a pedestrian.

    Very likely, which will also increase brake pad wear.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle

    Goddess of Fire takes on goddess of Earth. Looks like fire will win this one.

    Geothermal plant in Hawaii volcano’s crosshairs believed by some to be on sacred ground

    Native Hawaiians have long expressed frustration with the Puna Geothermal Venture plant since it came online in 1989; they say it is built on sacred land. Goddess of fire, Pele, is believed to live on Kilauea volcano, and the plant itself is thought to desecrate her name. Other residents have voiced concerns over health and safety.

    Scientists, however, say the conditions on Kilauea make it a good site for harnessing the earth for renewable energy.

    Fissure no. 6 reactivated at midnight near the plant as workers hurried to plug the plant’s 11th and last energy well from a separate lava flow that had reached the property and stalled on Monday, Hawaii News Now reported.

    Gaia, meet Pele. Pele, Gaia.

  95. cohenite

    Delonas is a great cartoonist but his TDS and anti-Semitism are deplorable; he is fucking mad.

  96. calli

    Lava, lava, lava,
    You don’t treat me no good no more.

  97. Bruce in WA

    A WAR of words has erupted between city-slickers and rural Queenslanders after a photograph of a social feral pig hunt went viral online.

    Hill MP Shane Knuth posted a photo of himself and Kennedy MP Bob Katter with a mound of dead pigs at the Currajah Hotel in Innisfail at the weekend and the response was immediate.

    While North Queenslanders, who see pig hunting not only as a right [sic] of passage but a necessity on the land, praised the event, outraged southerners voiced their disgust, accusing the hunters of ‘murder.’

    They called the hunters vile, disgusting and horrible and said the pigs should be left alone.

    Instead of shooting them, it was suggested that they could all be relocated to a fence in [sic] agricultural property, somewhere.

    Isn’t murder exclusively reserved for humans?

    Anyway, there are over 24 million of the feral f*ckers in Australia (that’s pigs, not “city slickers” … although …) and anything that can be done to lessen that number has to be a good thing.

  98. Speedbox

    …. the Russian peasants are noted for their hospitality and generosity ,sharing is a tradition .

    Quite true. Despite the media obsession with chanting ‘Wussia did it’, Russian people are remarkably generous considering they often have little to give. Well, that has been my experience.

  99. Rae

    Delonas is no more anti-Semite than Leak was anti-aboriginal. Satire is what Delonas is about, and what Leak was about.

  100. Bela Bartok

    I was at the Temple Mount in December last year; lined up 1hr before the ‘opening’ time.
    We were advised not to display any ‘overt affection’, disrespectful behavior, overly laughing, but to remain solemn throughout, otherwise the roving Islam Police ™ would harass us.
    One of our group tried to enter Al-Aqsa Mosque, but was prevented because she didn’t “look Muslim enough” so none of us could qualify to go inside.
    We had to make sure we exited before the next prayer-session, or we’d be manhandled out.
    My overall feeling: it’s the height of cheek for the Muslims to section off part of Jerusalem- after all, they can enter the Holy Sepulchre!

  101. calli

    Lol. Percy was always going to come second.

  102. Rae

    One of our group tried to enter Al-Aqsa Mosque, but was prevented because she didn’t “look Muslim enough” so none of us could qualify to go inside.

    Meh. Try getting into the Vatican wearing shorts and a sleeveless blouse.

  103. Dr Fred Lenin

    Dr Beau gan I joking used the “extreme right wingers “ in the context of the gangrene communists anyone who is not a red or fellow traveller like turnbull mob ,is an “extreme right winger “ , like my article about the corruption of words by the left filth ,thanks for the comment about the eyes ,I have an ambition to be painting picture when I am 86 like my hero Claude Monet ,who did his major nypheas work in his 80s .

  104. EvilElvis

    I know that in 600t laden diesel-electric mine trucks, regen is heavily relied upon, and the mechanics brakes spared – perhaps similar with Tesla (> 95% battery charge, regen disabled)?

    I think that’s a little different egg as braking in a dump truck is the priority, not scavenging a charge for a battery any way it can. I’m happy to be corrected, but I think the dump trucks rely on a load (aptly nicknamed a ‘toaster’) to heavily bear down on the electric motors to provide the braking. To get a tangible charge under braking in a Tesla I’d imagine the trade off is the speed and/or distance covered to allow enough generation. It’s probably not a feasible thing to do, one or the other must be prioritised. It again highlights efficiency and range issues.

  105. Geriatric mayfly

    SHY on Aus Day: take two
    Greens
    Sarah Hanson-Young re-issued her inaccurate Australia Day statement, but the error remained in her new press release.
    The Oz.

    Scatty beyond measure. Or is it that White Aust. History has no relevance to this mob?

  106. Bruce of Newcastle

    This story is for Calli in more ways than one.

    Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Opening Construction Jobs for Women

    President Trump’s tightened labor market through increased enforcement of immigration is forcing home builders to recruit American women, rather than relying on cheap, illegal alien workers.

    A new report by MarketWatch reveals how the tightened labor market is securing construction jobs and opportunities for women who would otherwise have been passed on in favor of cheaper foreign laborers.

    Advisor to the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Dr. Ben Carson would be a nice step up!

  107. calli

    Did she have her head covered and wear long sleeves and trousers, Bela?

    I can go into the synagogue if I’m wearing a dress and The Beloved is wearing a kippah. And I had no problem going into a mosque provided I was dressed appropriately.

    Or was this exclusive for the Dome?

  108. cohenite

    It’s a real shame about Delonas being a rabid anti-Semite. I guess some people just go nuts.

  109. H B Bear

    I would encourage inner city lefties to peruse the pig hunting journal of record, Bacon Busters, before wading into any debate on pork.

  110. Mark A

    All this talk about Sean Delonas piqued my interest, had a look at his website.

    I think he has a bit of a problem with j…s and Trump.
    Far too single minded about it.
    Believe me we are not missing anything by Tom not posting many of his cartoons.

  111. Pickles

    They’re all over the place. Like cattle they are.

  112. egg_

    I think that’s a little different egg as braking in a dump truck is the priority, not scavenging a charge for a battery any way it can.

    They’re heavily reliant on regen or the mechanical brakes wouldn’t last very long at 600t laden – that’s a couple of Jumbos worth.

  113. Delta A

    Try getting into the Vatican wearing shorts and a sleeveless blouse.

    You should have known better, bogan.

  114. Ragu

    Philip Roth brown bread.

    Good. The man was a knob

  115. Baldrick

    Today in the NSW Coroners Court:

    Two fires that destroyed almost 200 homes in parts of the Blue Mountains community in October 2013 were caused by trees falling on power lines, the NSW deputy coroner has found.

    How the fire was reported by TheirABC in 2013:

    Climate Council links NSW bushfires to climate change-
    As the Federal Government continues to reject claims that recent bushfires are linked with climate change, a report by scientists has stirred the debate further by saying the two are indeed linked.
    The group of climate scientists, including Professor Will Steffen from the Australian National University, says with a lot of misinformation about, the facts need to be put on the table.
    Professor Steffen was part of the Climate Commission, which was set up by the former Labor government to provide scientific information about climate change.
    It was dismantled by the Coalition, but its members sought public donations to continue their work and now call themselves the Climate Council.

  116. DrBeauGan

    old bloke
    #2718237, posted on May 23, 2018 at 4:20 pm
    Steve Kates, if you are home….

    Your post yesterday lauding the late Bernard Lewis overlooked many short-falls in his writing, in particular, the dreadful living conditions for non-believers in Islamic countries (a topic which Lewis studiously avoided).

    I may sound rather harsh, but I see Lewis as more an apologist for Islam than a defender of western liberal values. Hugh Fitzgerald penned an excellent essay about Lewis some years ago which is still worth a read, it can be found here.

    That Fitzgerald piece was very interesting, old bloke.

  117. egg_

    Barry Bones
    #2718198, posted on May 23, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    Umm, Detroit is known for its crime !

    More unsafe than Gaza !!

    Isn’t Barry Bones shitfer?

  118. Snoopy

    calli
    #2718243, posted on May 23, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Lava, lava, lava,
    You don’t treat me no good no more.

    Best lyrics evah! The original that is.

  119. Baldrick

    Please forgive my absence from normality but …

    Rae
    #2718163, posted on May 23, 2018 at 2:40 pm
    Clearly, Sean Delonas reads the Cat. And the Twitter roach’s 4 way brain by-pass didn’t work.

    … I hope you die a long, slow and painful death by arse cancer.
    Please resume normal transmissions.

  120. egg_

    Is Chau Chak Wing Musk’s Chinese half brother?

  121. Delta A

    Baldrick
    #2718272, posted on May 23, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Yes, typical bogan abuse from “Rae”, Baldy.

    Don’t let him ruffle your blood pressure. Scroll, as I usually do, and ignore the creep.

  122. egg_

    Australia’s largest cattle company AACo mothballs Darwin abattoir

    Just when Labor wants on shore processing of all export beef and sheep.

  123. OSC, well done re your Wiki efforts.

    Perhaps the Sea Patrol article also needs to be updated in recording her comments for prosperity! 🙂

    Don’t know where I’ll find the time, but I am tempted to strengthen you efforts with relevant cross-referencing and citing of references.

  124. stackja

    egg – unions want wages, ALP wants Green votes.

  125. Boambee John

    Baldrick at 1701

    … I hope you die a long, slow and painful death by arse cancer.
    Please resume normal transmissions.

    Something like Bucket Guts Richardson, but more painful?

  126. It’s a clear Market failure, Egg. Perhaps our National Broadcaster needs to become the ABattoir Corporation.

  127. Baldrick

    Don’t let him ruffle your blood pressure. Scroll, as I usually do, and ignore the creep.

    😸

  128. Rae

    Old Snarky Snipe. I doubt there is much you ignore on the Cat. Sitting there with the red mist descending over your face, barely able to contain your snarky, snipy self from making nother “valuable””contribution”.

  129. calli

    Baldrick is feeling better.

    I can tell. 😃

  130. Delta A

    Baldrick is feeling better.

    Yay!

  131. That Irish reporter, Ursula, is a fine looking woman. Lovely.

  132. EvilElvis

    They’re heavily reliant on regen or the mechanical brakes wouldn’t last very long at 600t laden – that’s a couple of Jumbos worth.

    Yep. That’s the system that works, dynamic braking where the electric motor acts as a generator and is loaded up with a resistor bank to provide the braking effect. I doubt a tesla car battery provides enough load to provide a similar braking effect and recharging the battery obviously has a higher priority than stopping the car.

  133. Delta A

    Shame they wouldn’t let “Rae” into the Vatican in his bogan shorts, singlet and thongs.

  134. jupes

    Don’t let him ruffle your blood pressure. Scroll, as I usually do, and ignore the creep.

    Every day numerous people advise scrolling the troll(s).

    Yet every day people engage the troll(s). Often the very same people who have previously advised scrolling.

    The troll(s) love every second of this.

    How about choose to either engage or not engage the fuckwit but stop giving advise to scroll because it is quite obvious now that it won’t be followed. At least that will stop one level of satisfaction to the dickhead.

  135. Gab

    Probably because he wore a “sleeveless blouse”, Delta.

  136. Delta A

    Noted, Jupes. And deservedly chastised. My brief engagement with the bogan is now done.

  137. Some History

    Shame they wouldn’t let “Rae” into the Vatican in his bogan shorts, singlet and thongs.

    Right outside the Vatican:

    https://imgur.com/gallery/yNkv6uu

  138. calli

    Sorry jupes. I have no excuse.

    Here, have a glass of fine virtual Israeli wine. My shout. 🍷

  139. Rae

    How about choose to either engage or not engage the fuckwit

    Absolutely. I never engage the fuckwit. But I did today post a comment in reference to its Twitter trolling.

  140. calli

    That would be virtual glass. My rapped knuckles made me mix the order up. 🙃

  141. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    My overall feeling: it’s the height of cheek for the Muslims to section off part of Jerusalem- after all, they can enter the Holy Sepulchre!

    The footsteps of unbelievers defiles the very land they step on. The kafir is lower than a pig.

  142. egg_

    I doubt a tesla car battery provides enough load to provide a similar braking effect and recharging the battery obviously has a higher priority than stopping the car.

    Again very likely.

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    Cher’s back!

    Hollywood hopes for a rebound with a slew of summer blockbusters

    What, perchance, would these blockbusters include?

    Several studios are girding for a surprise breakout success — with potential candidates including Warner Bros.’ romantic comedy “Crazy Rich Asians” (the first major studio movie with an all-Asian cast since 1993’s “The Joy Luck Club”) and the giant shark movie “The Meg.”

    Sure to be a smashing success…

    Some distributors will try to appeal to female moviegoers. Warner Bros. will roll the dice on “Ocean’s 8,” starring Sandra Bullock, Cate Blanchett and Anne Hathaway in a woman-led reboot of the previously male-dominated caper series.

    Universal is confident its “Mamma Mia!” sequel, starring Lily James and Cher, will bring women to the multiplex in droves 10 years after the hit ABBA jukebox musical. For its presentation at CinemaCon, the studio brought Cher onstage to sing “Fernando” in front of hundreds of cinema owners.

    Okaay. After the glorious success of the all wymminses Ghostbusters we’re now getting an all wymminses caper movie. Plus a reboot of the ABBA musical starring a spritely septuagenarian.

    Ah Hollywood, what can’t you do?

    Hollywood So Straight: Studio Films With LGBT Characters Dropped to Record Low Last Year

    The number of Hollywood films featuring LGBTQ characters plummeted nearly 40 percent in 2017 compared to the year prior, an annual survey of the major movie studios by GLAAD said on Tuesday.

    The group found that just 14 wide releases from the majors, as well as offerings from their indie divisions, were inclusive of queer identities in 2017, a drop from 23 films in 2016.

    Oops. Does Marvel have a comic with a trannie superhero yet? Stay tuned for the first all-QWERTY blockbuster to hit screens next year.

  144. Some History

    I won’t do it again…. ?

  145. egg_

    EvilElvis
    #2718287, posted on May 23, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    GE invented the system that most others use (likely from rail heritage) – a rectified HV DC bus with ‘choppers’ supplying the load bank.

  146. old bloke

    Delta A
    #2718288, posted on May 23, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    Shame they wouldn’t let “Rae” into the Vatican in his bogan shorts, singlet and thongs.

    I think it said it was wearing a blouse. It must have borrowed one from Mum.

  147. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Scott Adams

    @ScottAdamsSays
    On the plus side, Democrats still have 100% support from MS-13 and Iran

  148. Delta A

    I think it said it was wearing a blouse. It must have borrowed one from Mum.

    Sleeveless blouse, old bloke, as Gab pointed out. Same as a singlet.

    Can’t say… don’t want to say where it came from.

  149. Tel

    An electric or hybrid vehicle is always trying to conserve as much energy as possible via regeneration to the battery rather than as heat in the brakes. The car has to decide how much it can achieve via regeration (all or part) and has to allow for responsiveness to the driver (since the regen system may not be as fast to adjust as the driver would like).

    Actually, the car shouldn’t be deciding, it should slavishly follow the amount of pressure on the brake pedal, such that the mechanical system ALWAYS kicks in once the pedal has moved a certain (small) distance. Any car that attempts to double-guess the driver is dangerous.

  150. Geriatric mayfly

    For any Cats who feel inclined, but dread the snip, you can now rest easy and indulge your disposition part time.

    Tomorrow, David will be a candidate for election as an office-holder in his Constituency Labour Party in Basingstoke. He is standing for election as women’s officer, a post that Labour rules say can only be held by a woman. David is standing for that post because he is a woman. On Wednesdays, at least. When we spoke yesterday, he put it like this:
    “I self-identify as a woman on Wednesdays, between 6.50am when my alarm goes off and around midnight when I go to bed.”
    What does self-identifying as a woman mean? In what way is David a woman on Wednesdays?
    “My womanness is expressed by my saying ‘I self identify as a woman’ now and again on Wednesdays. I make no changes in my behaviour or my appearance. I keep my name, David and my male pronouns. I wear the same sort of clothes I wear the rest of the week. I keep my beard. I enjoy the full womanness of my beard.”
    Spectator UK.

  151. old bloke

    I saw our lovely Philippa Martyr on TV last night, what a nice caring person she is. She was passing on some family history information to Todd Mckenny who was looking rather distraught.

    After a brief pause she gently and genuinely inquired, “are you OK?”

  152. Rae

    Old Snarky Snipe. Since you were a former school marm for 55 years from the age of 13, I’m surprised you didn’t correct my grammar in this sentence upthread:

    The Twitter roach acted on its own nasty volition

    I should, of course have written:

    The Twitter roach acted of its own nasty volition

    But, you already knew that, didn’tcha.

  153. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    RTWT
    John Brennan’s Plot to Infiltrate the Trump Campaign

    The bogus tip from Estonia led the group into its first cock-up: sending FBI agents to sniff around the computer server connected to Trump Tower. After that effort flopped, Brennan’s group had to go back to the drawing board (on the electronic intelligence front, it had already hatched plans for national security letters and FISA warrants). Someone in the group must have proposed blasting a swampy old CIA source and Hillary supporter, Stefan Halper, into the Trump campaign orbit to see if he could catch a couple of minor campaign volunteers out in collusion.

    The members of Brennan’s working group at Langley “were just a bunch of out-of-control idiots,” says a former high-ranking CIA official to TAS. He finds it flabbergasting that Brennan would bring CIA officials and FBI officials into the same room to cook up schemes to send a spy into the Trump campaign’s ranks. One of those schemes involved money (Halper paid George Papadopoulos $3,000 for a phony research paper as a way of luring him into a London meeting); another involved sex (Halper’s assistant, with a name out of a bad spy novel, Azra Turk, tried to coax information from Papadopoulos at flirty bar outings, according to the Daily Caller’s Chuck Ross).

    Halper had come up empty, so Brennan’s group at Langley went with Downer’s tale, as feeble as it was. But it at least had the advantage of coming from a “diplomat.” Yet if Congressman Nunes is right and the originating document for the FBI probe doesn’t even contain a reference to an official intelligence product passed to Brennan from the Australian government, Downer’s hearsay must have been exceedingly flaky, so flaky no one would want to be on the record treating it as “evidence” for something as momentous as a probe into a presidential campaign.

  154. thefrolickingmole

    The smell of poorly cured skin, home brand skin lotion and desperation filling the blog again.

  155. Atoms for Peace

    Having just done a road trip, it strike us that a lot of town signage now had mention of the “insert tribe” name. No problems appropriating the alphabet. I’d be more impressed seeing variations of tribal names spelt with traditional art.

  156. Geriatric mayfly

    Doris Bagshawe is giving the SBS guy the third degree, over the Arabs who surround Israel and next year’s Eurovision broadcast. She’s going on about snipers picking off kids. I missed the context, but I can guess.

  157. Some History

    I should, of course have written:

    I should, of course, have written:

  158. Delta A

    thefrolickingmole
    #2718311, posted on May 23, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    As Deadman would say, tee hee.

  159. No no the point is that father bowers gets much love on social media but can’t attract even a modest congregation to his parish.

    He certainly isn’t in the business of saving

    souls.

    Getting retweets doesn’t cut it.

  160. Rae

    I think it said it was wearing a blouse.

    Bee Jay. I didn’t say anything at all about what I might have been wearing on a visit to the Vatican. If you look upthread you will see this:

    One of our group tried to enter Al-Aqsa Mosque, but was prevented because she didn’t “look Muslim enough” so none of us could qualify to go inside.

    Meh. Try getting into the Vatican wearing shorts and a sleeveless blouse.

    I know you’re all excited about the old biddies trying to point-score against me, but, you really would be better staying out of it. You just don’t have the talent, as you demonstrate here every day in pretty much every comment that you make.

  161. Rae

    The smell of poorly cured skin, home brand skin lotion and desperation filling the blog again.

    Ah, Hole. You are clearly in need of a bath again. And it’s only Wednesday.

  162. Geriatric mayfly

    “We do not tell our audiences what to think,” says the guy from SBS. How can he keep a straight face?

  163. JC

    A man in Sweden faces up to two years in prison over a Facebook post in which he said Somalis typically have low IQs, despite technically being correct.

    Can you confirm this to be true, Zipperhead?

  164. thefrolickingmole

    How cute, it recognizes when its being referred to without any name needed.

  165. Dr Fred Lenin

    Mayfly seems you are involved helping the mentally confused this David chap /Sheila is in a bad way isnt he ? hope you are making sure he keep taking his medications never know what he /she would do without them . Am I right in thinking this disorder is increasingly found amongst the tertiary indoctrinated left ;. You have

  166. Atoms for Peace

    Nobody expects the Sea Patrol Inquisition. Amongst our tools are fear and surprise…

  167. Mother Lode

    I have a plan to overtake even the Tesla.

    First I will start a campaign about how four-wheel vehicles have so much extra resistance and how two wheels would be better.

    Then I am going to tout the virtue of pedalling to generate the power to batteries to store the power for the electric motors.

    Then about the ecological superiority of not using unsustainable, toxic batteries that degrade so fast, but instead directly converts human energy to motive energy.

    Then I will announce the ideal product is finally here.

    For this new fusion of technologies and human ergonomic design I will charge customers as much as a Tesla.

    And give them a bicycle.

  168. Atoms for Peace

    Frockling . Socks don’t have birth certificates; just Target tags.

  169. Atoms for Peace

    Mother Lode. That episode is covered in Black Mirror.

  170. egg_

    Strange how a relatively new sock knew DrBG’s posting history (not that they are the same entity).

  171. EvilElvis

    And give them a bicycle.

    Mother Lode, I feel you could really gouge the government with the extra efficiency tight fitting pants and clothing at exhorbitant cost, after all it is for Gaia.

  172. Shy Ted

    Aaaaaagh, Katherine Murphy from the front on The Drum. Hideous. I’ve only ever seen her in profile on Insiders before. I wont sleep tonight.

  173. Makka

    Can you confirm this to be true, Zipperhead?

    Go to to the shithole Somalia and have a look at what the nation’s collective IQ has produced. “Low IQ” would have to be a generous assessment I should think.

  174. Atoms for Peace

    JC. Deprive a child of decent nutrition, and there are well recognised sequelae. Intellectual impairment is in that diagnostic net. Now, just a matter of looking at countries where the dietary impoverishment occurs.

  175. John Constantine

    Never going to post much Motley Fool stuff here, but this isn’t a recommendation, just a look at how social justice warriors go about selling godless communist social justice food to lefties that loudly boast they are against Maccas.

    Funny that ‘everybody’ mocks Trump and Kerry Packer for being billionaires happy to munch on Maccas, while ‘everybody’ proclaims if they could afford it they would eat clean hippy social justice food.

    OLI olivers real food announced this morning that australias left really just want Maccas, just like Trump and Packer.

    Can OLI keep selling social justice food with capitalist seasoning?.

    https://www.fool.com.au/2018/05/23/would-olivers-real-foods-benefit-from-board-renewal/

  176. Atoms for Peace

    Bicycles interrupt traffic flow and increase CO2 and other emissions. Discuss.

  177. Top Ender

    Nobody expects the Sarah Sea Patrol Inquisition.

    Amongst our three weapons are illiteracy, and poor fact-checking.

    Amongst our three weapons are illiteracy, poor fact-checking, innumeracy and a fanatical devotion to Derek Di Natale.

    Amongst our five weapons are illiteracy, poor fact-checking, innumeracy and a fanatical devotion to Bruce Di Natale.

    Amongst our weaponry are illiteracy, poor fact-checking, innumeracy and a fanatical devotion to Wayne Di Natale.

    And a misunderstanding of subject must match verb in number.

    Vote for me please. My name is Sara.

    Or Sarah.

    Thank you and goodnight.

  178. johanna

    Habib
    #2718209, posted on May 23, 2018 at 3:39 pm

    I’m flat out getting in below the ton these days. Work and moving house is less fun than a lecture on marxist deconstruction in feminist literature, with no beer.

    Commiserations, Habib.

    A hip flask is essential in those circumstances.

    Hope you did not entrust any small items of sentimental or monetary value to removalists. I made that mistake last time, and it still stings when I think about it. I couldn’t prove a thing, but stuff went missing, in particular my singles collection, in a small box marked ‘singles.’ Irreplaceable, and much mourned. Where am I going to get another copy of ‘Personality’ by Lloyd Price, not to mention my rare Radio Birdman singles and EPs.

    Why are you moving?

  179. thefrolickingmole

    How peculiar, can anyone guess the missing word from this article in the Gruiniad about Venezuela?

    Nicolás Maduro has brought the country to its knees. The international community must support Venezuelans trying to restore democracy

    It has never been clearer that Nicolás Maduro – who cynically described this weekend’s vote as “a triumph of democracy” – is a dictator. Dozens of countries throughout Europe and the Americas warned that the fraudulent presidential elections should not occur and are now refusing to recognise the results.

    We are not dealing with an authoritarian government that, like Chávez’s, still managed to loosely colour between the lines of democracy and the rule of law. This is a textbook dictatorship, with assassinations, torture and sexual abuse of political prisoners, violent censorship of the press, and a sociopathic strategy to use the hunger of its own citizens as a tool for political control. So, in the face of all this, what can we do to help restore democracy in Venezuela?

    I bet 9/10 people here can guess the missing word/link in the article without reading it.

  180. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Can you confirm this to be true, Zipperhead?

    original

    Pointed out that Somalis have low IQ prosecutors[GT]

  181. Atoms for Peace

    Which reminds me of the last uberlycra suicide jockey we saw , mixing it with traffic on the Great Ocean Road. TIght corners on a bike whilst towing what I assume is your own body bag /coffin on bike trailer

  182. Some History

    Aaaaaagh, Katherine Murphy from the front on The Drum. Hideous. I’ve only ever seen her in profile on Insiders before. I wont sleep tonight.

    https://imgur.com/qjIRHHY

    WARNING
    – Do NOT view within 1 hour of meals.
    – May cause temporary blindness.
    – Possible dizziness and revulsion.
    – Nightmares may persist for several days after viewing.

  183. Makka

    I bet 9/10 people here can guess the missing word/link in the article without reading it.

    You can bet if democracy ever IS restored, those Latin numpties would still vote into a party with “Socialist” in it’s handle.

  184. Atoms for Peace

    Noice Top Ender. There’s a hidden Python in every group. There’s another joke in there somewhere….

  185. Top Ender

    My Python is a trouser-snake, Atoms.

  186. JC

    Makkaroni

    I’m not disputing the issue of IQ. I would like to see some verification (more than a blog link) the story about the person facing jail is true.

  187. thefrolickingmole

    Socialism, not even once…

    Heres a real reply to the guardian article.

    Fred Bloggs 2m ago
    Venezuela should be for the Venezuelans, not the descendants of the European occupiers, the conquistadores. That is what Chavez stood for but was resisted by those who appropriated its oil wealth. If that led to Maduro, they have only themselves to blame, including this ‘journalist’.

    “Real Socialism net time comrade”…

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    Clearly, Sean Delonas reads the Cat.

    Hey Sean
    Love those Nazi cartoons.
    Needs more swastika though.
    And maybe a Tranny wearing Sieg Heels!
    Keep up the great work my skinhead friend.
    Your pal
    Stimpy.

  189. Tailgunner

    Bastardy! I’m on fire on the dead thread!

  190. John Constantine


    Wodonga Council will not be sending representatives to a town hall meeting discussing potential legal action against them for their use of the waste services levy.

    Shine Lawyers and Wangaratta lawyer John Suta teamed up to propose the action, which has gained initial funding from a backer, after Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass found Wodonga Council was ‘wrong’ to collect $18 million in extra revenue from its waste management levy, to fund other services.

    A council spokeswoman said whether the mayor, senior staff, legal or council representatives attend Wednesday night’s meeting, was a decision for each individual.

    She would not answer questions on whether council had insurance to cover the potential class action.”

    https://www.bordermail.com.au/story/5421952/evening-of-reckoning-ahead-for-council-and-class-action-hopes/

  191. DrBeauGan

    egg_
    #2718333, posted on May 23, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    Strange how a relatively new sock knew DrBG’s posting history (not that they are the same entity).

    The thought that the daft bugger has been taking notes on my history cheers me immensely, Egg. But it’s more likely a new sock for a long term troll, as you suggest. I just don’t understand them. Why the hell would anyone bother? What sort of weirdo gets off on just trying to piss people off?

    I just ignore them.

  192. Tailgunner

    Does Monty/Open Societies know it’s all over yet?
    Lol
    Trump is God

  193. Tailgunner

    Demented banana, get in here!

  194. Snoopy

    Aaaaaagh, Katherine Murphy from the front on The Drum. Hideous.

    Green cardie?

  195. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    another one

    The 65-year-old man in Solna was charged with two posts he wrote in the Facebook groups “Politics Facts” and “Standing for Sweden” in March 2017.[GT]

    According to the District Court, the man’s political views are clearly illegal.

    “However, [the] messages of the man can be seen as comments on previous posts in an ongoing political or otherwise subjective discussion. However, according to the district court, [his] communications are such that they clearly cross the boundary of a factual and sensitive discussion regarding the group of people with Somalian origin. In an overall assessment, the District Court considers that the [man’s] statements are to be regarded as being against public groups, “the court writes.

    The verdict is signed by Judge Lotten Ögren. One of the members of the board was discernible and considered that the 65-year-old was entitled to freedom of speech because the posts were written as part of a political discussion.

    The man is sentenced to conditional sentences and 50 daily fines of 350 SEK.

  196. Geriatric mayfly

    a sociopathic strategy

    The Grauniad nearly got there Mole. But that organ has a long history of spelling mistakes and incidental errors, so we shall forgive them this time.

  197. Tailgunner

    my skinhead friend.

    Mental. Illness. Confirmed!.

  198. Tailgunner

    Is Stimpson Sean Delonas/Hando, or deep trolling a legitimate blog?
    Cat Poll, please.

  199. JC

    Zipperhead;

    You’re linking to a Swedish anti-immigrant blog. Fria Tider

    Free Times is a Swedish-language immigration-critical online newspaper. [2] It is independent and describes itself as liberally conservative, but has ideologically been considered close to the Swedish Democrats and especially the party’s former youth federation SDU. [3] [4] Free Times have been classified as “a part of the radical right-populated network environment” in a report published by the National Media Council. [5]

    The magazine is owned by the Estonian company FT News Group OÜ, based in Tallinn, where its Internet servers are also located. [6] [7] Free Times, which lack Swedish certificate of publication, are published on the web only and are funded through subscriptions, donations and advertising revenue.

    At the beginning of 2017 a review of the site Review Sweden was presented, and it emerged that the newspaper owner FT News Group OÜ also conducts Review Sweden, and that there is a collaboration between Free Times and Review Sweden’s network activists.

    The problem is that we’ve been burned far too many times by these Euro blogs making shit up. Where’s the original source of this story from a regular Swedish newspaper. If there isn’t, it’s very likely to be fake news.

  200. Tailgunner

    JC – are you having a Cat housewarming in NYC? I’ve gotta get there at some point for the Trump Shop swag…
    Have a party. Open Cat house.

  201. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    what is going on in Sweden

    The Riksdag has now voted for the first part of the government’s proposal which makes it illegal to display “contempt” for and discriminate against people because of their “cross-gender identity or gender expressions”.[GT]

    The Government’s proposal for “extended criminal protection for transgender” means adding “gender identity or expression” to the provisions on the topic of public and illegal discrimination.

    Hets against the People’s Group Act makes it criminal offense (up to two years in prison) to show “contempt” against groups “with racial, skin color, national origin, ethnic origin, creed or sexual orientation”.

  202. JC

    JC – are you having a Cat housewarming in NYC? I’ve gotta get there at some point for the Trump Shop swag…
    Have a party. Open Cat house.

    lol probably around Xmas as the place is getting gutted. But sure, as soon as it’s ready, I’ll put on a Cat house warming. 🙂

  203. DrBeauGan

    Tailgunner
    #2718359, posted on May 23, 2018 at 6:36 pm
    Bastardy! I’m on fire on the dead thread!

    It’s less net work for you to repost the stuff here than for us to go there and read it, tail.

  204. DrBeauGan


    Hets against the People’s Group Act makes it criminal offense (up to two years in prison) to show “contempt” against groups “with racial, skin color, national origin, ethnic origin, creed or sexual orientation”.

    Is it Ok to laugh at individuals in those categories?

  205. JC

    Zipperhead.

    We know Sweden has gone to the dogs, not that the place has ever been out of the leftist kennel. I dunno why you even care about the shithole.

    Sweden is leftism on a double dose of steroids and has been for the past 80 years. We are where we are in terms of social policy and gerbil warming degeneracy primarily because of those c..ts. Let them go through a decent dose of Islam now as they thoroughly deserve it. Fuck em.

  206. Perth Trader

    Real freedom is having the right to dislike any person or group of people for any reason I please. This does not give me any right to discriminate against them or those , but I do reserve the right to dislike them or those.

  207. Entropy

    If I was JC I would be worried that I couldn’t provide sufficient standards for a tailgunner party. In the tail part I mean.

    Six capital Is.

  208. Entropy

    Hets against the People’s Group Act makes it criminal offense (up to two years in prison) to show “contempt” against groups “with racial, skin color, national origin, ethnic origin, creed or sexual orientation”.

    At least contempt against politicians is still OK.

  209. stackja

    PT – Freedom of choice?

  210. JC

    I’ve mentioned this before.If you want to despise Sweden and Germany to a lessor extent because of their gerbil warming degeneracy, you should read, Rupert Darwall’s book, Green Tyranny. It goes through the genesis of gerbil warming started by the Swedes in the 70’s with the acid rain baloney. This was subsequently debunked, but later morphed into gerbil warming. In fact, it’s really eye opening how players peddling acid rain bullshit were the same people later peddling gerbiling.

    I think it was Zatara who first posted a reference to the book. Not sure though, but thanks, whoever it was. It’s invaluable

  211. Some History

    Love Island UK

    All participants are fine specimens of the human physique; the men are muscled-up and the women slim and toned. Over past seasons most of the participants have been smokers. While smoking was not permitted indoors, smoking was accommodated in a number of outdoor areas. And it’s in these areas that most of them congregated, smoking and discussing/gossiping/griping. Well, there was apparently a “raft” of complaints about smoking during the 2017 season. And the producers have… poof capitulated. This coming season

    I’m told that when contestants want a cig they’ll have to ask a producer who will take them to a designated smoking shelter away from the villa. And as if having to sit in a bus stop-style hut wasn’t bad enough, they will have to do it alone.
    A TV source said: “Last year there were more viewer complaints about the amount of smoking than anything else.
    “It did feel like someone had a fag in their hand constantly last series, so hopefully viewers will notice the difference.”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/6353869/love-island-2018-smoking-clampdown-complaints-2017-series/

  212. Delta A

    Wow!

    Just had an evening wander around the nature resort where we are staying and happened upon a dozen (at least) young people cooking/trashing the camp kitchen. “Where are you from?” I asked when they invited me over.

    “Calgary, Canada,” was their reply.

    “School camp?” Yeah! “Where’s your teacher?”

    A pale hand raised from a skinny arm above a plate of something that one would eat solely to keep one alive. He looked no older than his youngest student.

    But they all were having a ball – apart from the teacher – and they were brimming with questions about aspects of everyday Ozzie life.

    A special interlude that happens occasionally and stays in the mind forever.

  213. Perth Trader

    Stackja…..ya nailed it. No law will ever take away my right to dislike.

  214. stackja

    Hawaii facing acid rain crisis due to global warming. Now just need to tame volcano!

  215. stackja

    PT – Choice is sometimes called discrimination.

  216. JC

    History really does seem to repeat itself.

    Rupert Darwall: If you look at what the Nazis were doing in the 1930s, in their environmental policies, virtually every theme you see in the modern environmental movement, the Nazis were doing. It happens to be historical fact that the Nazis were the first political party in the world to have a wind power program. It also happens to be a fact that they were against meat eating, and they considered…it…terribly wasteful that so much grain went to feed livestock rather than to make bread. It’s also the case that they had the equivalent of fuel economy rules because they had the most expensive gasoline in Europe and so they basically had very few people driving cars…I think actually the most extraordinary thing that I came across was this quote from Adolf Hitler where he told an aide once, “I’m not interested in politics. I’m interested in changing people’s lifestyles.” Well, that could be…That’s extraordinarily contemporary. That is what the modern environmental movement is all about. It’s about changing people’s lifestyles.

    https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/rupert-darwall-totalitarian-roots-environmentalism/

  217. Tel

    We know Sweden has gone to the dogs, not that the place has ever been out of the leftist kennel. I dunno why you even care about the shithole.

    It’s not caring, it’s just that you must keep getting people to look at it so as to capture the learning when things go badly wrong.

    Like Venezuela, must keep people looking there and keep reminding them that Chavez and his socialist plans were where the problem started. Even if Chavez had stuck to his original Constitution, done a few socialist things like getting the poor kids into school, then retired after his allocated two terms, it might have come out OK. It’s the difficulty of teaching people not to snatch too much you know. Just learn to appreciate what you have. Anyway, we will see how long it takes them to figure it out.

  218. Tailgunner

    Good stuff, JC.
    You’d throw an epic Party I reckon. With a little help from Wifey&10 Puerto Rican dudes/girls…
    Can we invite Ivanka?

  219. Tailgunner

    He’s got a daughter, E. With single friends.
    I’m feeling positive.

  220. cohenite

    Today in the NSW Coroners Court:

    Two fires that destroyed almost 200 homes in parts of the Blue Mountains community in October 2013 were caused by trees falling on power lines, the NSW deputy coroner has found.

    How the fire was reported by TheirABC in 2013:

    Climate Council links NSW bushfires to climate change-
    As the Federal Government continues to reject claims that recent bushfires are linked with climate change, a report by scientists has stirred the debate further by saying the two are indeed linked.
    The group of climate scientists, including Professor Will Steffen from the Australian National University, says with a lot of misinformation about, the facts need to be put on the table.
    Professor Steffen was part of the Climate Commission, which was set up by the former Labor government to provide scientific information about climate change.
    It was dismantled by the Coalition, but its members sought public donations to continue their work and now call themselves the Climate Council.

    Alarmists are complete bastards. Their policies prevent backburning and therefore make fires worse, which is what happened in Victoria in 2009 where 173 people died needlessly and here it is again, prevention of clearing around transmission lines leads directly to destruction of the transmission network. Greens are a treat to society and should be treated as such.

  221. Tailgunner

    . In the tail part I mean.
    Sorry, Ent – drunk blogging.
    Well, maybe a couple of medicinal cigarettes too….

  222. stackja

    SH – 1950s TV a invariable smoke screen.

  223. JC

    Rupert Darwall: Yeah, when we talk about exposing the totalitarian roots of this [the “climate industrial complex”], the German, the Nazi one, if you like, explains itself. What about Sweden? Is Sweden totalitarian? Well, it’s a form of soft totalitarianism [in Sweden]. They’ve had a social democratic government. It was the longest one-party rule from about the 1920s into the 1970s, so [it had an] extraordinary, extraordinary impact on Sweden. This is the party that created modern Sweden. The Swedish Social Democrats can claim direct lineal descent from Marx and Engels. And they believe in social engineering. They have socially engineered modern Sweden, and they used tools of social control to change the way people think, to change the way people behave. There’s a quote in the book from Olof Palme when he was education minister saying, “We don’t teach people individuality, we teach them to be members of a group.” And then there’s an education bureaucrat who says, “We believe in the freedom to give up freedom.” So this is…It’s not like the regimes of the former Eastern Bloc but it’s a very…It’s I think rightly called a soft totalitarian regime.

    Now you…[mention] the impact of Sweden on environmental politics…[it is] enormously underestimated. This country of 12 million people, it kicked off the modern environmental [movement], at a global level — not Rachel Carson and Earth Day, but the global politics of the environment was started by Sweden. They called for the first UN Environment Conference in 1972 in Stockholm, which started the string of UN climate conferences going through Rio, Kyoto, Paris and so forth. They also put acid rain on the world. They launched the war on coal…First of all with acid rain, they wanted to have a huge nuclear power program, and they wanted to raise the specter of coals. If you don’t have nukes you have to have coal, and coal is dirty and it destroys the forests and lakes. And by the way, it causes climate change. And so, Sweden is the first country to talk about climate change. Olof Palme was talking about climate change in 1974, in November 1974. That’s when Al Gore was still at law school. This way predates anyone else on climate change.

    Ben Weingarten: You characterize the acid rain movement as being the dry run in effect for today’s global warming and climate change movement. What are the implications of the history of acid rain?

    Read on.

    https://www.encounterbooks.com/features/rupert-darwall-totalitarian-roots-environmentalism/

  224. Percy Porcelain

    it’s really eye opening how players peddling acid rain bullshit were the same people later peddling gerbiling

    There’s been quite a history of scientistic scares over the last four or so decades

    70s: New ice age
    80s: Acid rain/mass deforestation, hole in the ozone layer, 1989 was the first year I became aware of the evidence-free fraud that was gerbil worming, which later morphed into catastrophic climate change.

    The same hysterical commie hippie deadshits were of course, responsible for peddling all of them. Pity they never starved to death in a famine back in the 70s like Ehrlich’s mythical millions were going to.

  225. Some History

    Rupert Darwall: If you look at what the Nazis were doing in the 1930s, in their environmental policies, virtually every theme you see in the modern environmental movement, the Nazis were doing.

    And add to that anti-alcohol/tobacco, dietary prescriptions/proscriptions, physical exercise, e.g.,
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2352989/pdf/bmj00571-0040.pdf

    Gesundheitspflicht (duty to stay “healthy”) – servant of the [mind-numbing] State.

  226. egg_

    Markle already looked a little bored during official ceremonies IMHO.

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