Out of touch is the least of it

From my far-left Californian ex-mate who represents every aspect of the insanity projected by anyone with TDS. Which brings me to this, which is not at all sympathetic, but at least gets discussed: Trump turns North Korea into an attack on the Democrats claiming they are ‘rooting against us in our negotiations’. The sub-headings:

  • The president attacked Democrats in an early morning Twitter rant 
  • His attack was filled with his other grievances against Dems, saying they defend the violent El Salvadorian gang MS 13 and that they want to raise taxes
  • Democrats criticized Trump for cancelling the Singapore summit with North Korea with Nancy Pelosi saying President Kim Jong-Un was the ‘big winner’
  • ‘Dems have lost touch!’ Trump charged 
  • ‘Fox & Friends’ mentioned the Dem criticism on their Friday morning broadcast 

The actual tweet from the President:

Which part of any of this is untrue?

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66 Responses to Out of touch is the least of it

  1. struth

    The left are simply western hating traitors.

  2. Cynic of Ayr

    Trump let the Fat Boy know, without any doubt at all , that he, Trump, was in charge now, and not Obama with his anti-western / anti – American agenda.
    It must have come a a real shock to the Fat Boy, that Trump actually responded forcefully to the Fat Boy’s rhetoric, with even more powerful rhetoric.

  3. Confused Old Misfit

    The left are simply western hating traitors.

    But why struth? Why? I find it difficult to come to terms with their negativism.

  4. mh

    The Daily Mail UK states:

    President Donald Trump used his failed North Korea summit to blast Democrats, charging the party with ‘rooting against us.’

    I wonder what deal-making the female journalist for the UK’s Daily Mail has done in her lifetime to already dismiss a summit that may or may not happen? Give me a job, I have a vagina!

  5. Brett

    We are living a post-truth age; the left only cares about the headline and meme. Truth is irrelevant.

  6. egg_

    We are living a post-truth age; the left only cares about the headline and meme.

    Spin – if you can’t win!

  7. Gary

    Before anyone reacts to Iampeter. Just remember he is a self declared messiah of whatever utopian square peg in round hole Ideology. And will likely be on a some security watch list.

  8. Mark M

    This comment via jonova comments:

    ” Ken (Kulak)
    May 23, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    Charles Krauthammer finally woke up?

    This is from Charles Krauthammer who did not go for Trump, now read what he thinks of him now.

    To my friends “of a different persuasion” I’m not trying to sell anything or anyone but I do feel this is an interesting take on our
    very controversial president who I truly believe is not Republican or Democrat.

    A different take on Donald Trump: (a non-political agenda)

    Trump Is Not A Liberal or Conservative, He’s a “Pragmatist.” (Definition: A pragmatist is someone who is practical and focused on reaching a goal. A pragmatist usually has a straightforward, matter-of-fact approach and doesn’t let emotion distract him or her.)

    “We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conversation varied from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics.

    At one point, reference was made to Donald Trump being a conservative, to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative.

    I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist.

    He sees a problem and understands it must be fixed. He doesn’t see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. But I get ahead of myself.

    Viewing problems from a Liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more government, more political correctness, and more attacks on the working class in all economic strata.

    Viewing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending and globalism to the detriment of American interests and well being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy Sheriff, appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democrat Party.

    Immigration isn’t a Republican problem, it isn’t a Liberal problem, it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.

    The impending collapse of the economy wasn’t a Liberal or Conservative problem, it is an American problem.

    That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because the Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect.

    Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate.

    Trump uniquely understands that China’s manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again, successful businessmen, like Trump, who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work, and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn’t work, you don’t continue trying to make it work hoping that at some point it will.

    As a pragmatist, Donald Trump hasn’t made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition, and a $15 hour minimum wage for working the drive-through at Carl’s Hamburgers.

    I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.

    You may not like Donald Trump, but I suspect that the reason some people do not like him is because:

    (1) he is antithetical to the “good old boy” method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;

    (2) they are unaccustomed to hearing a president speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who he owes vis-a-vis
    donations;

    (3) he is someone who is free of idiomatic political ideology;

    (4) He says what he is thinking, is unapologetic for his outspoken thoughts, speaks very straightforward using everyday language that can be understood by all (and is offensive to some who dislike him anyway) making him a great communicator, for the most part, does what he says he will do and;

    (5) he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.

    Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to “out crazy” one another.

    Jeb Bush, John Kasich and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and big dollar donors funding their campaigns. Bush can deny it, but common sense tells anyone willing to face facts is that people don’t give tens of millions without expecting something in return.

    We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us?

    Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?

    I submit that a pragmatist is just what America needs right now. People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common among those who have never accomplished anything in their lives (or politicians who never really solved a problem, because it’s better to still have an “issue(s) to be solved,” so re-elect me to solve it, (which never happens) and those who have always played it safe (again, all politicians) not willing to risk failure, to try and achieve success).

    Donald Trump put his total financial empire at risk in running for president and certainly did not need or even want the job; that says it all.

    He wants success for the U.S. and her citizens because he loves his country.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2018/05/23/art-of-the-deal-8/#comment-1115815

  9. pbw

    On the 7th and 8th of May, Kim was in Dalien to chat with his good mate, Great Helmsman Xi Jinping. Kim had been in Beijing in March; his first trip outside the country since he took over. (Note in passing the Trump’s America menu item on the page linked above.) Shortly after this “cordial and friendly” chat, the usual Nokor bombast resumed.

  10. mh

    This is interesting, especially at 4min:

  11. egg_

    If ship boarding blockades by the US are continuing, it’s small surprise that the Russian East is offering a second “Friendship” Bridge crossing into NorK, possibly on pontoons – for quick deployment – and increased direct trade, instead of via China.

  12. egg_

    This is interesting

    Yup, wankers are always wise after the fact.

  13. Dr Fred Lenin

    I remember the Norks at Panmunjom during the cease fire talks ,they would walk out at the drop of a hat stupid nitpicking, trying to dominate the talks ,a cease fire was en’ventually signed . Technically the Norks are still at war with the south and the US,don’t know about the rest of the u.n. Who participated of course the u.n. Wasn’t communist dominated then ,Trump knows their forn[m and won’t put up with their bullshit like the left dominated state department would ,Donald will dominate these talks and the Chinese are really scared of him ,he will punish them economically and they know it that’d why f at boy had to go to China for his instructions ,bet ci gave him a blast when his minions started messing about they got into rec]verse quickly . Trump will dictate the terms and China will make fat boy accept them ,they are not dealing with acareer polliemuppets wit the Trump t-regime .

  14. a happy little debunker

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Negotiations 101: The best deals you can make are the ones you walk away from…and then get them with better terms.
    12:48 AM – May 3, 2014

  15. Dr Fred Lenin

    As for the left treason which is quite normal to them ,they can never see the wood for the trees ,totally blinkered and never a thought for the consequences of their stupidity ,mid aged children
    I remember back in Gorbachovs day ,Boris Yeltsin ,and edouard scheverdnadze ,two politburo members visited tNew York ,during a tour they asked to go into a supermarket ,they were shocked at the amount and variety of food and the cheapness of it ,they spoke through their interpreter to some shoppers ,amongst them the wives of a truck driver and a city garden worker ,these women had between them more food than a Russian housewife would see in her lifetime ,and they got that every week. It is said this to]upped Yeltsin over the edge and made him anti communist ,to lead the people out of soviet opression . It must have worked, the left hate Russia but love China. Cuba ,the Norks and Venezuela , they obviously don’t frequent supermarkets ,that for the peasants .

  16. cuckoo

    Just guessing that the people now blaming Trump for ‘botching’ the summit are the very same people who castigated him for agreeing to meet Little Rocket Man in the first place.

  17. Billie

    Back at the ranch, Minister Bishop tips in $M to some US swamp fund, because an entertainer Tweeted her.

    We don’t have Trump or a process to get one

    Bishop, Pyne and all the rest are looking after themselves with our money and future

    Bugger, we’re in the B ark…….

  18. OldOzzie

    Mark M
    #2720693, posted on May 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    This comment via jonova comments:

    ” Ken (Kulak)
    May 23, 2018 at 7:09 pm

    Charles Krauthammer finally woke up?

    This is from Charles Krauthammer who did not go for Trump, now read what he thinks of him now.

    ot

    Did Charles Krauthammer Write an ‘Interesting Take on Trump?’
    An opinion piece arguing that President Donald Trump is a pragmatist rather than a Republican or a Democrat was written by Mychal Massie, not Charles Krauthammer.

    Thanks Mark M

    Either way, a perfect Description of Trump and I wish we had Politicians like him

  19. OldOzzie

    pbw
    #2720720, posted on May 26, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    On the 7th and 8th of May, Kim was in Dalian to chat with his good mate, Great Helmsman Xi Jinping. Kim had been in Beijing in March; his first trip outside the country since he took over

    Was in Dalian mid-90s – a place where communist elite went for summer vacations – nice beaches

    What surprised me was

    Dalian is a modern port city on the Liaodong Peninsula, at the southern tip of China’s Liaoning Province. It was founded by the Russians in 1898, and Russian Street (Eluosi Fengqing Jie) is lined with Russian-style architecture. Zhongshan Square is lined with colonial buildings in Renaissance and other styles. Popular beaches include Tiger Beach and Golden Pebble Beach.

  20. OldOzzie

    Again I refer to this analysis

    Secretary Wilbur Ross Heading To China June 2nd through 4th – Likely Authorized To Strip Bamboo Forest…

    This is an important tonal shift to note because U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross just announced he is heading to China. Secretary Ross will visit China from June 2 to June 4, the official Xinhua news agency reported, and you can be certain that President Trump has just unleashed the “killer” side of Wilbur Ross.

    President Trump is not sending a “trade delegation” to Beijing, he is sending ONLY Secretary Ross. This is where ‘stuff‘ is fixin’ to get very serious. Wolverine Ross will likely be prepared to rip the bamboo forest to shreds. Don’t expect any firm or final decision on a change of heart for the June 12th U.S./DPRK summit in Singapore until after Secretary Ross reports back to President Trump.

    Normally Secretary Ross would join Treasury Secretary Mnuchin at these ministerial meetings. Every economic and finance minister is going to want to talk to the U.S. economic team about the status of the steel and aluminum tariff exemptions. [Currently extended 30 days – expiring June 1st]. However, as noted Ross is going to China instead.

    This helps to understand how significant the economic aspects of the Trump Doctrine are to the geopolitical engagements with North Korea.

    Chairman Xi has made a strategic decision in his adversarial approach toward President Trump. Again, listen to the briefing by Secretary Pompeo – Panda China is telling him they too want to see peace, Korean stability and denuclearization. However, Dragon China is using the panda mask, and simultaneously leveraging Chairman Kim to aid their trade objectives.

    Beijing has made a fatal mistake; they have exposed too much dragon face and did not expect President Trump to call them out on it publicly.

    Secretary Ross now heads to China with •Steel and Aluminum tariffs; •auto-sector 232 evaluations; •intellectual property penalties; •over $150 billion in additional trade sanctions/tariffs pending; •and financial sanctions against Chinese banks as economic arrows in his dragon slaying quiver.

    Don’t doubt for a minute that based on Chairman Xi’s maneuver with Chairman Kim, Wolverine Ross is not about to fire one -or several- of those arrows directly into the heart of Beijing.

    Chairman Xi made a strategic mistake. Xi genuinely has no idea the level of hurt President Trump is looking for an excuse to deliver. Things are fixing to get ‘Old-School’.

  21. David Brewer

    Out here we probably don’t see half of what the Dems have been doing to undermine a deal with North Korea and belittle and impede Trump at every turn. Cop these comments:

    [House Minority Leader] Pelosi (D-Calif.) said during her weekly press conference that Trump’s decision to cancel the meeting is a “good thing” for Kim “He got global recognition and regard. He’s the big winner. And when he got this letter from the president saying, ‘OK, never mind,’ he must be having a giggle fit right now in North Korea,” Pelosi said.

    Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) tweeted that “the art of diplomacy is a lot harder than the art of the deal,” adding he was amazed that the administration was surprised at North Korea’s behavior.

    Rep. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) tweeted that National Security Adviser John Bolton “must be stoked,” and “this is what happens when amateurs are combined with warmongers.”

    Not the slightest pretence of bipartisanship or restraint, even though this is not some domestic spat but a sensitive international negotiation where the Dems themselves have raised fears of a nuclear war. Yet they snipe and sneer and openly claim victory for the other side.

  22. Dr Fred Lenin,

    China won’t get off the hook by pushing fat boy to compromise with Trump , Donald is determined to get a more level trade result with China ,the old days when Xi sold the USA $100 worth of goods and bought $10 back are gone ,he’s dealing with a businessman here not a career polliemuppet or a leftist state department timeserver . Western foreign affairs people were notorious leftists indoctrinated at uni by Narxist teachers ,US state dept . UK foreign office and our foreign affairs mob .

  23. egg_

    Not the slightest pretence of bipartisanship or restraint, even though this is not some domestic spat but a sensitive international negotiation where the Dems themselves have raised fears of a nuclear war. Yet they snipe and sneer and openly claim victory for the other side.

    Parochial retards that don’t even hold a Visa?

  24. NB

    Dr Fred Lenin says: ‘fat boy had to go to China for his instructions’
    ‘the left hate Russia but love China. Cuba ,the Norks and Venezuela’
    David Brewer says: ‘Dems have been doing to undermine a deal with North Korea’
    Yep. North Korea is China’s attack dog against the West.
    The left favours anti-West players, particularly communist nations, but, of course, Barrack Hussein had a soft spot for the Muslim ones too. It can come over as merely a domestic anti-Trump message, but it is consistent with larger plays to undermine the West.
    The self-styled post-modern left seek only power. Any country or organisation that is not completely subordinated to their will must be destroyed. Domestic policy objectives of the left in capitalist countries are merely strategic plays of international Marxism to weaken them. Think climate change for example.

  25. Confused old misfit;

    The left are simply western hating traitors.

    But why struth? Why? I find it difficult to come to terms with their negativism.

    The Left, having never added value to any nation unfortunate enough to have a surplus of them, cannot tolerate a society that shows them just how worthless and despicable their lives are.
    Having never created anything, they know the value of nothing.

    Does this help?

  26. Mark M;
    Krauthammer is stating the political equivalent of ‘water flows downhill’.
    Of course Trump is a pragmatist.
    I never bothered even trying to deny he wasn’t, because it is that bloody obvious.
    What is it about these these Political Intellectuals that they suddenly realise something that the rest of the world on the six pm bus worked out almost instinctively, but it took them three years and their sudden flash of insight has to be shouted to the sky?

  27. NB;

    The self-styled post-modern left seek only power. Any country or organisation that is not completely subordinated to their will must be destroyed. Domestic policy objectives of the left in capitalist countries are merely strategic plays of international Marxism to weaken them.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – The Left always assumes that after the Revolution, they will be the ones sitting behind the desk demanding answers from the proles.
    They never see the purge coming, and it is coming for them because the faceless men of the Revolution let them self select as the people who are a threat to the establishment.

  28. Leo G

    David Brewer posted on May 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    Not the slightest pretence of bipartisanship or restraint, … they snipe and sneer and openly claim victory for the other side.

    Freelance writer and part-time columnist for The Tennessean of Nashville Saritha Prabhu believes fellow Democrats are becoming the low-information voters they think are only on the Republican side.

    I’m a Democrat, and it would be easier to accept my side’s version of unfolding events. It would certainly make my life easier when talking with my liberal friends. But facts are pesky things, and I’ve become increasingly aggravated by my own side.

  29. If the “Krauthammer” link was actually written by some other guy in early 2016, then it’s remarkably prescient.
    I have no idea who Krauthammer is – is he well known in the USA?

  30. Empire 5:5

    Which part of any of this is untrue?

    Nil errors.

    Keep calm and covfefe.

  31. sdfc

    Of course Trump is a pragmatist

    His pulling out of the Iranian agreement suggests he’s not.

  32. JC

    His pulling out of the Iranian agreement suggests he’s not.

    Sure he is. The alt right should be really pissed off with him and the Mitt Tomney wing pleased as punch, which is why I love him literally like a red headed step child.

    He’s basically walked away from trade wars, which is a good thing. I don’t care one way or another about immigration, but he’s only nibbled at it by cutting down the ref numbers. Building the wall is alt-right, but it’s not exactly happening real quick. His one major accomplishment is the tax cut that comes straight from the Romney wing.

    He also gives back hard, which is hugely entertaining. In my opinion he’s a very conforming GOP prez.

  33. sdfc

    Not holding military drills with SK would have been pragmatic.

  34. OneWorldGovernment

    sdfc
    #2720974, posted on May 26, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    Not holding military drills with SK would have been pragmatic.

    Not supporting Taiwan to blow the crap out of Chinese bombers as they circle Taiwan is pragmatic.

  35. J.H.

    Kim Jong Un hasn’t visited China in the entire time he has been leader…. Then in the last month or so Kim has visited Xi’s China twice…. and Kim’s stance towards Trump and the talks changed…. Trump decided to change the dynamics and throw them off guard by cancelling the talks. Trump knows he is now talking to a Kim who has been ordered by China to be non co-operative.

    Trump will let Kim stew over the fire of this proxy fight for a while…. Kim will come to realize that co-operation with Trump and America opens the World to him, being a pawn in Xi’s Hegemonic dreams will only last as long as Kim is useful to Xi’s China….. Then Kim will die and be replaced with someone else.

    Kim will come in from the cold as fast as his fat little feet will carry him once he understands where his future lies…… Trump will give him the deal and the opportunity to save face as being an agent of change….

    …. or variations on that theme.

  36. He’s basically walked away from trade wars, which is a good thing. I don’t care one way or another about immigration, but he’s only nibbled at it by cutting down the ref numbers. Building the wall is alt-right, but it’s not exactly happening real quick. His one major accomplishment is the tax cut that comes straight from the Romney wing.

    He also gives back hard, which is hugely entertaining. In my opinion he’s a very conforming GOP prez.

    Agreed, JC. Trump is a Reagan Republican in most important ways, with an added dash of Nixonian treason.

  37. OneWorldGovernment

    J.H.
    #2721067, posted on May 27, 2018 at 2:36 am

    Kim Jong Un hasn’t visited China in the entire time he has been leader

    But who knows how many of his support ‘staff’ have a direct line to China?

    No wonder the US State Department/CIA communists want America offside with Russia because NK have no-one to back them up accept China and Russia.

    I’d like to know what the Australian Foreign Affairs filth think of it all!

  38. OneWorldGovernment

    m0nty
    #2721068, posted on May 27, 2018 at 3:20 am

    He’s basically walked away from trade wars, which is a good thing. I don’t care one way or another about immigration, but he’s only nibbled at it by cutting down the ref numbers. Building the wall is alt-right, but it’s not exactly happening real quick. His one major accomplishment is the tax cut that comes straight from the Romney wing.

    He also gives back hard, which is hugely entertaining. In my opinion he’s a very conforming GOP prez.

    Agreed, JC. Trump is a Reagan Republican in most important ways, with an added dash of Nixonian treason.

    Fuck off m0nty you communist piece of shit.

  39. stackja

    Dems created NK. Dems let NK exist. Dems want NK to continue. Dem supporters don’t understand. Never will.

  40. Zatara

    Technically the Norks are still at war with the south and the US,don’t know about the rest of the u.n.

    The Panmunjon ceasefire was between North Korea and the UN. So yeah, the norks are still at war with the UN. Not that the UN would notice.

    It’s easy to misunderstand that, because the US provided nearly 90% of all army personnel, 93% of all air power and 86% of all naval power for the Korean War and the US military has remained in South Korea for 60+ years to enforce the peace for the UN. But no, it’s UN vs. NK.

    ‘Let’s cut out the BS and sort this once and for all’ is a very pragmatic way of approaching the issue.

  41. John Constantine

    President Kim for new Australian racial divisions commissar.

  42. anonandon

    What did people with leftist tendencies do before Karl Marx came along? Were they just general dickheads without a cause?

  43. Nick

    Th Dems are such children. Trump is playing a chess game where he is planning his fifth move. There’s a lot more to yet play out on this.

  44. sdfc;

    His pulling out of the Iranian agreement suggests he’s not.

    How many billions of dollars has been spent providing the Ambassador Classes with a lifestyle that elevates them into the 0.01% of the human race?
    What sort of return on funds invested has that ever provided for us? All I can see is the Ambassador Class has rarely paid for itself – more often it has put off important decisions to go to war and finally settle issues between nations until even they get sick of the circuses and do what should have been done in the first place – settle the quarrels by force of arms.
    WW2 should have been fought out starting when the Germans renounced the Treaty of Versailles in 1935. Look at the whole Korean nightmare – 65 years of bullshit, millions of lives lost and ruined under Kim Phat Fuk, Trillions of dollars wasted in weaponry sitting in bunkers, just so the Ambassador Class could get off the plane and wave a piece of paper and say the 1953 version of ‘Peace in Our Time! And I’ll have a Knighthood to go with that, ta.’ And then, many years later they write their memoirs and tell us that the second world war didn’t quite turn out the way it was supposed to.
    The Cyprus intervention. FFS – the UN still has troops on the ground being shot at by both sides! Turkey should have been told to piss off, and the West should have gone in with big boots and settled the bloody matter. Now we have Turkey going all fundamentalist because they see us as weak and they’ve got their hands on how bloody many of our nukes?
    Take the Rwandan massacres – the UN put troops on the ground with orders to stop the massacres, then crippled the ability of the soldiers to do so to such an extent the Commander of the forces killed himself.
    Look at the Korean War. Watch the Ambassador Class kick the can down the road while collecting awards, praise and a lifestyle beyond avarice! The US should have nuked the Chinese the moment they put troops into the conflict and kept bloody nuking them until the Chinese Got The Message.

    I forgot, it was my birthday yesterday and guess what I got?
    Frigging gout.
    That’s why I’m cranky.
    Stuff the bloody world. I’m sick of it.

  45. I forgot to add:

    Winstons list of shit that needs to happen on his ascension to the throne:

    19. Sack the entire Ambassador and Embassy Class.
    18. Rotate a Brigade sized force with Army Aviation assets to Israel and create an AA wing of A10 Thunderbolts – one squadron to each rotation.
    17. Find out who the Concerned Community Groups are, and remove their funding.
    16. Defund Screen Australia.
    15. Cancel the Submarine Contract and order a dozen Virginia Class vessels for delivery over 12 years.
    14. Cancel the Uphill Wet Battery.
    13.Withdraw from all UN and other international bodies or treaties that do no to specifically favour Australia.
    12. Abolish any/all anti-discrimination and anti-free speech legislation and associated bodies both state and federal.
    11. Abolish any government ‘thing’ with the words Aboriginal, Indigenous, Torres Strait Islander.
    10. Delete Australian Standards.
    9. Wipe off the face of the earth – DFAT.
    8. Terminate all sporting bodies like ASADA.
    7. Bring back the death penalty.
    6. Safe Schools to be investigated with a view for charges being laid, for sexually predatory indoctrination;
    5. The Federal Departments of Health and Education abolished;
    4. Department of Defence overhauled;
    3. All judges/magistrates to be elected, not appointed;
    2. An immediate cessation of immigration;
    1. Several new nuclear/coal power stations to be commenced immediately the party gets in.

  46. anonandon

    Winston, you had me at “bring back the death penalty”.

    If any referendum would pass it would be on that issue.

  47. Eyrie

    “FWIW, Snopes attributes the Krauthammer quote elsewhere”
    FWIW, Snopes is worthless.

  48. Eyrie

    “What did people with leftist tendencies do before Karl Marx came along? Were they just general dickheads without a cause?”
    Thieves, burglars, highwaymen, muggers. Marxism turned them into dishonest crooks where they can get a government to do the thievery along with murder and kidnapping.

  49. areff

    What did people with leftist tendencies do before Karl Marx came along? Were they just general dickheads without a cause?

    They did their knitting in front-row seats beside the guillotine.

  50. md

    #2720648, posted on May 26, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    The left are simply western hating traitors.
    But why struth? Why? I find it difficult to come to terms with their negativism.

    It’s pretty simple, Confused Old Misfit. Of the many cohorts that comprise the Left, these are the two particular cohorts that are the source of the destructiveness of leftist politics:
    1. The self-loathing. These are life’s victims. Mostly, they become leftists in their teens when their hormones kick in. They don’t like the hand they’ve been dealt in life and they become angry about it – that’s why we see so much violent and irrational behaviour from them. When people are being consumed by their self-anxiety, one of three things happens:
    a) they reluctantly accept their fate and just get on with life, unhappy though they are;
    b) they turn their self-anxiety inwards, where it manifests in self-destructive behaviour such as smoking, drinking, drug-taking and physical self-harm;
    c) they turn their self-anxiety outwards by blaming ‘society’ for their woes.
    The latter are the destructive ones. They are drawn to leftist politics because they see it as a weapon they can use to take revenge on society. That’s why they support totally irrational causes and will oppose everything they see as ‘mainstream’. These are very sick people. We need to recognise that. They are motivated by exactly the same urge that leads the common vandal to destroy things of value to other people – namely, the desire for retribution.
    2. The narcissists. These are the people who have convinced themselves that they are better than ordinary people. Often they are people who have experienced a degree of financial success in the new economy. More often they are people who believe their qualifications demonstrate their superiority to ordinary people – note, though, that they mistake ‘qualifications’ (which anyone can get) for an ‘education’ (which requires the intelligence to learn and understand). But all things are relative: for these individuals to convince themselves they are superior to others they have to portray others in an inferior light. They are drawn to leftist politics because they see it as being harmful to the masses, and rubbing the faces of ordinary people in their politics reinforces their self-constructed belief that they are superior to them. It is simply a desire for social power – our primitive instinct to seek out the psychological reward of self-validation we get from bullying the weak and less able.

    Confused Old Misfit, it is as simple as that. There is no such thing as ideology. Politics is people. Understand the person and you will understand their politics. You can’t change these people. You can’t treat the self-loathing for their debilitating self-anxiety and nor can you tame the bullying instinct of the narcissist. People will change only if they understand themselves and if they want to change. Is there any hope for the future? No. People won’t change unless we get to them at a young age to teach them about the urges and instincts that make us so socially destructive, and that will NEVER happen while the Left control education.

  51. anonandon

    Md – that was a good take. The feeling of superiority is essential for the narcissist group. They express support for the lower classes but feel only pity and disgust for them and don’t want to be anywhere near them. Conversely they have contempt for the middle classes who they consider to be hopelessly bourgeois with their day to day struggles that they, as superior beings – financially and intellectually – are above.

    To summarise – they are a bunch of hypocritical wankers with no skin in the game.

  52. Faye

    If only Nigel Farage could be Britain’s PM. With President Trump, the two would bring about a much better world.
    Nigel Farage in a speech at Hillsdale College in America, pointed out that, well into his campaign, he thought his gravestone might be engraved with the “Patron Saint of Lost Causes” when suddenly, he was being labelled as dangerous, extremist, a bad person spewing poison, hatred and bile attempting to divide society and bringing back hatred not seen in Europe for 70 years. With no money, wealth or support, being outside of the mainstream political class was quite scary.
    He said that about five years ago he received a letter from a 93 year old WWII veteran of Bomber Command. In it he said to Nigel. “Let me tell you, you only start taking flack when you are getting near the target.” That letter has been an inspiration to Nigel.

  53. Habib

    The helicopter fleet is going to be awfully busy, buy shares in Airbus, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Leonardo and Textron. Don’t bother with Robinson, they can’t carry enough load- just one bloater Bolshevik like Dick Adams would see a Robbo flogging out a turbine trying to gain lift.

  54. old bloke

    Winston Smith
    #2721119, posted on May 27, 2018 at 9:39 am

    I forgot to add:

    Winstons list of shit that needs to happen on his ascension to the throne:

    You have my vote.

  55. Old Bloke:
    You are mistaken.
    One does not vote for a Monarchy.
    A Monarchy is imposed on the masses.

  56. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “Let me tell you, you only start taking flack when you are getting near the target.” That letter has been an inspiration to Nigel.

    should be an inspiration to us all

  57. egg_

    Clip of an elderly Obama-like chap ‘longterm follower of international diplomacy’ or summut from a US source on ABC24:
    – Nukes on the peninsula protect both North and South Korea;
    – The joint military exercises should have been scaled back to land-only and not so overt;
    – North and South are working out their differences;
    – China is no friend of the Norks, but improved relations could improve Nork technological agriculture near the border

  58. Boambee John

    egg

    Did someone offer to sell him a bridge?

  59. egg_

    Oriana Skylar Mastro, a North Korea expert at Georgetown University:

    “Today, China is no longer wedded to North Korea’s survival. In the event of a conflict or the regime’s collapse, Chinese forces would intervene to a degree not previously expected — not to protect Beijing’s supposed ally but to secure its own interests.”

  60. Confused Old Misfit

    Politics is people. Understand the person and you will understand their politics. You can’t change these people.

    That’s the part I have difficulty with. Accepting that these people CANNOT change their minds.
    I will learn! I will learn.

  61. Mother Lode

    Thanks for that Krauthammer passage, Mark M.

    I think it hits it right on the nail.

    Trump is definitely pragmatic – which is why he keeps wrong footing other politicians. They aren’t into problem solving, they are into processes which they think will provide continuing covert benefit to them while providing nominally overt benefit to the nation.

    It is quite breathtaking to compare Trump to his immediate predecessor.

  62. OWG;

    Not supporting Taiwan to blow the crap out of Chinese bombers as they circle Taiwan is pragmatic.

    If the Chinese are doing this sort of shit, i.e. sending bombers to circle Taiwan, the prudent thing to do is take them out with close and personal fighter attack. The world knows China is doing it to provoke an incident, so China cannot complain too much when the provocation works.
    Look, I wrote the other day that these endless provocations will only stop when the West and our Allies decide to stop them. China and Russia have been doing this shit for years, shooting down or colliding with our aircraft and naval vessels, murdering our soldiers, and getting away with it.
    It will continue until the West decides to grow some spine, sack our Ambassador Class and retaliate disproportionately to drive the message home that the old days are over.

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