Monday Forum: May 28, 2018

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  1. egg_

    American ABC, egg_.

    Bummer.
    It would be great to see Roseanne’s irreverence on Aunty, instead of Tom Bollard.

  2. Myrddin Seren

    Looks like Roseanne was giving the turps a thrashing yesterday.

    Now that she has abandoned Twitter she should come over here for the night shift.

  3. struth

    I’m not being corny but I think I’ll say a prayer for a brave young Pom.

  4. Entropy

    Aren’t the actors playing the talking monkeys on planet of the apes all white?

  5. nemkat

    Michelle Guthrie canceled Rosanne you say,egg.
    Bwahaahahahahahahaha, etc..

  6. Dave in Marybrook

    to Roseanne-
    You maniac! You blew it up, damn you! etc

  7. egg_

    Roseanne, heheheh.

    Ain’t Karma a bitch!
    😉

  8. Tel

    Looks like Roseanne was giving the turps a thrashing yesterday.

    She must have been drunk, because she got a few details wrong. Soros admitted in a 60 minutes interview that when he was 14, he assisted in the confiscation of Jεwish property, but no direct connection with any killings. The Muslim Brotherhood is socially conservative (from a Sharia perspective) and anti-Communist; while VJ is quite supportive of socialism and happy to support radical social realignment in the USA. They have very different agendas.

  9. Entropy

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2723683, posted on May 30, 2018 at 8:37 am
    to Roseanne-
    You maniac! You blew it up, damn you! etc

    Gold!

  10. herodotus

    It takes time for the realisation to sink in that you have spent the first 20+ years of your life – sometimes more – being misinformed by the media. There’s a sort of sixth sense that accrues with experience and allows you to suss out the wrongology or downright propagandism of large segments of the media/entertainment/activist complex.

    Joanne Nova appeared on the Sunday edition of Outsiders with Rowan and Ross, and admitted that she had once thought climate change and CO2 might have a meaningful relationship. She said she was shocked out of that mindset by being reliably informed that ice cores actually reveal a seven hundred year lag between warming events and CO2 rises. But that’s not how the brainwashing tells it.

    If you’re old enough you might remember how after the sacking of the Whitlam government and the subsequent landslide win by Fraser’s mob, Malcolm was described by the media as some sort of right wing death beast. He turned out to more closely resemble a marshmallow.

    Patterns repeat over time. During the 1960s the ALP were unelectable despite the eventual retirement of Bob Menzies and a succession of leaders. By 1969 the ALP had to ditch Calwell and install Whitlam in order to present a new image. Modernisation was pitched, the It’s Time campaign featured entertainment figures, even some from the ABC’s very popular Bellbird serial. Whitlam had lots of bright ideas. It worked, because in 1972 the Whitlam government was elected. Whitlam was no marshmallow, although rumour has it that when under pressure his intake of cream cakes was prodigious.

    Fast forward to 2007. The ALP had been unelectable for the past two elections, and needed a makeover. Rudd was presented as a younger, more modern figure who had lots of bright ideas and was, after all, a “fiscal conservative”. That Howard government were right wing death beasts who had introduced an IR system closely related to the Russian Gulags. They’d been around far too long and once again the It’s Time factor was given a run. It worked, and a relatively competent government – certainly by comparison with everything since – was turfed out to make way for Kevin Rudd, who went right ahead and set a course for disaster.
    This would have been a bit less of a disaster but for the media’s characterisation of Tony Abbott as a right wing death beast who could not be trusted to have anything more than three word slogans to offer the Australian public. He was not modern enough to answer Kerry O’Brien’s carefully framed question about what “peak speed” was. Obviously a luddite as well, compared to the enlightened ALP people who held up shiny new policies including the NBN.

    We know where things went after that. Gillard and the Greens, courtesy of Windsor and Oakshott.
    As a late but unlamented author once said, “poor fella my country”.

  11. Dave in Marybrook

    But what a stuff-up. She’ll be forever tainted by that tweet, because no matter how normal, successful or stratospherically high-flying a “person of colour” is, there’s always someone clinging to the monkey meme.
    Now Roseanne has gone from a prime-time show, normalising humble liberalism and sassy support for the GOP, to a disgraced star’s swan song. I hope the final show is a record-breaker, but she’ll probably never be allowed into the building again, let alone the script-writers’ room.

  12. Snoopy

    John Goodman must be pissed off.

  13. Dave in Marybrook

    PDT, that is, not GOP.

  14. nemkat

    Viz featured Roseanne Barr opening a Church fete in England a few years back.
    So so, until Roseanne spotted Cliff Richard getting more onion rings on his burger than she did.
    Things went rapidly downhill from there.

  15. egg_

    Joanne Nova appeared on the Sunday edition of Outsiders with Rowan and Ross, and admitted that she had once thought climate change and CO2 might have a meaningful relationship.

    Followed The Science Show on Aunty for years and it’s amazing how the narrative did a quick about face from Chaos Theory and how arrogant humans would be to think they could impact the Earth to the promotion of the Gaia Hypothesis and CAGW.
    Who says Science isn’t trendy?

  16. struth

    Science is now just grant for comment.

  17. calli

    My understanding is that Roseanne is a ratings success in a cutthroat industry.

    ABC reminds me of that scene in Blazing Saddles. But with an itchy trigger finger.

  18. DrBeauGan

    It is coming up to seven in the morning in perf and I am having breakfast which consists of diet coke and a smoke. It is 9°.

    Explain THAT, I T.

  19. Percy Popinjay

    Outsiders with Rowan and Ross

    What the hell were they doing (as Steyn noted) tiptoeing around the details of the Robinson farce? Grow some balls, you pair of pansies.

    No wonder I haven’t watched it since Latham was punted.

  20. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Australian debt is just a stepping stone to truly joining the one world economy, their ruling quisling class know the deplorable proles will resist being sold out as slaves, so they are dynamiting the electricity, deindustrialising the economy, debtfunding the services Ponzi and building the Mother Of All Debts as a weapon to hand to their world bank, where the nation of Australia ceases to be free in return for a financial bailout to fund welfare services.

    that’s pretty much spot on

  21. egg_

    Lookes like Roseanne’s show has been pulled by ABC

    The danger of the Twitter cesspit to celebre.

  22. Rossini

    struth
    #2723696, posted on May 30, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Science is now just grant for comment.

    Sounds reasonable especially in reference to climate change!

  23. struth

    Good on Rowan and Ross……but……well…….sigh…….really?

    Surely there is someone a little less cringeworthy.

  24. egg_

    My understanding is that Roseanne is a ratings success in a cutthroat industry.

    Resurface on another channel, once the heat dies down?

  25. Rae

    Barn’s book

    Titled: Indiscretions of a Sheep Accountant

    Subtitled : Country Matters

  26. struth

    Dr BG.
    That’s a pretty expensive breakfast.
    Do you know you could possibly get a Mcmuffin for the cost of that dorrie?

  27. John Constantine

    Got a call from a mate this morning celebrating the autumn break, his best rain for the year over the last couple of days.

    Then he mentions the headline in his local paper reads that his council are lifting farm rates twenty-five percent and cutting residential rates ten percent.

    Comrade maaaaates.

  28. egg_

    Barn’s book

    A token $25k when he reportedly earns $400k p.a. from his family’s business alone.
    /Envy

  29. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    WikiLeaks Calls QAnon A Likely ‘Pied Piper’ Operation

    Caitlin johnstone is hard left, but I don’t think Qanon is a Pied Piper op, more like a 4chan roll playing script kiddy, the sort we saw during the election.

  30. stackja

    Roseanne welcome to the 21st Century.

  31. nemkat

    DrBeauGan’s just trolling you, Struth.
    His breakfast is more likely lamingtons with cream, whilst wearing a pink beret.

  32. stackja

    Woodchipper murder: Mum coaxed her two lovers to kill her former boyfriend, cops allege
    PATRICK BILLINGS, The Courier-Mail
    May 30, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    A SUNSHINE Coast woman “counselled” two of her lovers to murder a third ex-lover in a blood-drenched crime involving a woodchipper, police will allege.

    The Courier-Mail can reveal police will claim Sharon Graham was behind the alleged murder of Bruce Saunders, hatching a plan with Greg Lee Roser and Peter John Koenig to kill him.

    The trio were sensationally arrested over his death on Tuesday after a lengthy investigation, which included probing Graham’s links to Mr Saunders’ finances.

    The mild-mannered 54-year-old from Nambour was killed on November 12 on a rural property near Gympie when his body was allegedly fed into a woodchipper.

    Roser, 59, of Deception Bay, and Koenig, 61, of Gympie, were present when first responders arrived to confront the “horrific” death scene.

    They claimed it was an accident which occurred as they cleared trees for the third weekend in a row to help out a recently widowed property owner.

    But in the following days information about Mr Saunders’ finances came to police attention painting a possibly sinister story.

    Graham, 57, was not at the property when Mr Saunders died. But police will allege she planned and conspired with Roser and Koenig to kill her former partner whose home she still lives in.

  33. thefrolickingmole

    John Constantine

    Any local council chaps playing developer nearby?
    25% is extortion.

  34. stackja

    Major Victoria University study shake-up impacts all students
    Ashley Argoon, Herald Sun
    May 29, 2018 11:39am
    Subscriber only
    ALL students at a Melbourne university will be forced to study subjects in four-week intensive blocks in a radical course revamp.

    Victoria University trialled the “Block Model” on first-year students this year, where they took just one subject at a time instead of juggling four units.

    The university has deemed the trial so successful it’s extending the model to second year students in 2019 and the entire campus by 2020.

    It will mean this year’s guinea pigs will complete the entirety of their university course in the Block Model.

    “We always expected it to have some positive effect but it’s even better than that,” Vice-Chancellor Prof Peter Dawkins said.

    He said in less than six months, first year attendance rates were up almost 20 per cent while retention rates had also increased (9 per cent) as had pass rates (18 per cent).

    “I’ve never seen anything like it,” Prof Dawkins said.

    “To actually see if shift so dramatically, it is very remarkable.”

    The model — adopted by select universities in Sweden, Canada and North America — aims to stop students from dropping out.

    They will still study four units a semester, but will do so in four-week blocks on set days and times.

  35. Rae

    CIA report says North Korea won’t denuclearize, but might open a burger joint
    Do you know you could possibly get a Mcmuffin

    Zero D chess. Kim will treat the Pussy Grabber in Chief to a Wimpy Burger.

  36. OneWorldGovernment

    stackja
    #2723716, posted on May 30, 2018 at 9:13 am

    Woodchipper murder: Mum coaxed her two lovers to kill her former boyfriend, cops allege

    False News.

    Woodchippers are banned in UNaustralia.

  37. DrBeauGan

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2723703, posted on May 30, 2018 at 9:04 am
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/deradicalisation-of-militant-muslims-not-a-viable-option/news-story/2d4d2d31df9dcbdeef8bc43f1f8d611b

    A much better word than deradicalisation is de-islamification.

    The only objection I have to Kessler’s article is that he assumes that all Muslims take their religion seriously. Most don’t. It’s like all those people who used to write CofE on their forms when asked about their religion and who went to church three times in their life, when they were christened, when they were married and when their parents died. They have always been in a strong majority of the church of England. Those here who take their faith seriously are a small minority of Christians and it is only recently that more people have been telling the truth on census forms and admitting that they don’t have a religion. Muslims haven’t got that far yet.

    A big problem arises when that sort of Muslim has children who start taking the nonsense seriously, something kids are prone to do. That’s where we need to worry.

    PS, it is now 14° in Perf. My part of it anyway. But it was 9° at 06:30. And it’s still May.

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What the hell were they doing (as Steyn noted) tiptoeing around the details of the Robinson farce? Grow some balls, you pair of pansies.
    No wonder I haven’t watched it since Latham was punted.

    Good to see such invective back on the Cat. A proper good gee-up.

    However, they indicated they had been fairly seriously warned by management that punting might be their fate too if they mentioned this. I cut them some slack, as they did at least bring the issue up in a way that would send those not in the know flying to the internet to find out more. The lily-livered management should now explain why they were so under the thumb of a British magistrate.

    If they did get punted, I wonder what the response would be. A big rebellion from the audience who obviously have strength in numbers, shown by the fact that Outsiders keeps on getting more and more airtime? Or more shoulder-shrugging and two more conservatives off air? I suspect the latter.

  39. Baldrick

    And now the truth comes out why Roseanne was axed:

    The Hill ✔ @thehill
    THE MEMO: Roseanne’s racist tweet reignites charges of racism against Trump

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    four-week intensive blocks

    Like getting castor oil. In and out, fast.

    This mode doesn’t really leave time for digesting the input.
    In, tested, and easily forgotten. Not really education?

  41. DrBeauGan

    Struth, the bottle of diet coke cost me $2:00 and the durrie is a $23 cigar, so I am already into the big bucks here.

    Take no notice of nemkat. Pink beret, forsooth. I am wearing a black beanie with a propeller on top.

  42. JC

    I thought Barr’s comment was really funny.

    Iger didn’t waste any time.

  43. struth

    “Charges” of racism.
    It’s really all about the words used.

    Some fuck wit lefties calling their opposition racist is yawn city and certainly nowhere near a charge.

  44. struth

    Struth, says I, you must be one of them there one percenters……
    For that sort of money you could have bought a double decaf latte mochado with a pattern drawn on top in a paper cup in Northbridge surrounded by man buns and mamils.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Herman Cain, a businessman who ran for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, told the Fox Business Network on Tuesday that “Roseanne apologized fervently. They canceled her anyway.”
    He added: “They were looking for a reason to cancel ‘Roseanne.’… Even though the show was a ratings success, I believe that forces within ABC didn’t like the fact that her conservative defense of certain things was so popular.”
    Cain also called the tweet an “excuse” on the part of ABC to cancel the show.

    From the link above. Any excuse will do when they are out to get you.
    Same as in Britain with Tommy Robinson – except Tommy’s life is at risk, not just a livelihood.

  46. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    when his body was allegedly fed into a woodchipper.

    Hard to think of a better way to leave a lot of DNA evidence.

  47. Snoopy

    Islamic scamps at play.

    At least 10 people were beheaded in an attack in northern Mozambique over the weekend in an area where previous Islamist attacks have been reported, state Radio Mocambique says.
    >
    >
    Muslims make up about 18 per cent of Mozambique’s population. Roman Catholics form the largest single religious grouping, with about 30 per cent of its 30 million people.

  48. WikiLeaks Calls QAnon A Likely ‘Pied Piper’ Operation

    Excellent link, Pinhead. Either way, if you believe the QAnon narrative that Trump is actually a Machiavellian genius then you’re a sucker.

  49. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    A big problem arises when that sort of Muslim has children who start taking the nonsense seriously, something kids are prone to do. That’s where we need to worry.

    You miss the fact without the masses there is little likelihood of the hardcore jihadist emerging. It’s a numbers game. The hardcore jihadist is generally a martyrdom exercise, so you need to large numbers of muslims to yield a few suicide maniacs.

    The masses are an essential key to islam’s goals. Not only do they yield the suicide squads they also exert pressure on local law and order, politics and culture.

    De-islamification by any means is the only viable and urgent solution.

  50. Baldrick

    And no mention from (American) ABC executives of Whoopi Goldberg, host of The View, and this.

  51. C.L.

    Not much sympathy for Rosie.
    Here is an aging, overweight, screechy bogan who somehow got a second shot at extremely high dollars and casually blew it – while also destroying the income of her co-stars who, excepting Goodman, are unlikely to get another big payday in their lives. Stupid, stupid woman.

  52. I thought Barr’s comment was really funny.

    You laugh at labelling black people as apes, JC? In 2018?

  53. calli

    She “mis-spoke”.

    Why not try that? It’s worked before.

    🙂

  54. Snoopy

    Seems like no one on the left objects to Jarrett being desccribed as spawn of the Muslim Brotherhood.

  55. None

    One wonders why the Australian national broadcaster obeys foreign reporting bans.

    One wonders why that useless tax hoovering outfit still exists.

  56. C.L.

    You laugh at labelling black people as apes, JC? In 2018?

    We all recall Monty’s outrage when Joe Biden praised Obama as the first “clean” black and Harry Reid praised him as a “negro” who could talk properly and didn’t look too African. And I don’t recall Rosie being promoted to president pro-tempore of the Senate – like Klansman Robert Byrd.

  57. struth

    If I call you an ape , Monty, is that racist?

  58. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Patterns repeat over time.

    Well said, Herodotus. And it used to be true that ‘there is a lot of ruin in a Nation’.
    Always possible to catch up again, people would think.

    Less true now though. Our Asian neighbours are laughing at us, looking this way.
    Soon we will be slipping through the cracks in the bottom of the wastrel barrel.
    Deals such as we may never have dreamed of will be done unless we frack our oil and start to use our coal to keep our industry afloat. Malcolm’s big battery – ‘holler for a Marshall Plan’ – won’t save us.

  59. OneWorldGovernment

    Snoopy
    #2723738, posted on May 30, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Islamic scamps at play.

    At least 10 people were beheaded in an attack in northern Mozambique over the weekend

    Obvious lack of woodchippers.

    There are quite a few woodchippers littered around UNaustrlia in former thriving sawmilling communities.

  60. Infidel Tiger

    Roseanne is a bit crazy but does anyone seriously believe she is racist?

    Any way good to see a show that tried to normalise transgenderism cancelled.

  61. None

    You laugh at labelling black people as apes, JC? In 2018?

    the reference was to the Planet of the Apes which is a movie and anyone who has seen that movie knows that Jared looks like one of the actors in it. Get over yourselves, specists.

  62. C.L.

    Planet of the Apes:

    SHOCK VIDEO: Muslim Mob Storms Maine Park – Beats Park Goers with Sticks and Fists While Laughing.

    It was an otherwise pleasant evening in Maine when two dozen Somali youth swarmed and attacked two local residents in Kennedy Park last Thursday evening.

    The Somali mob attacked around 7:45 pm, just as the sun was setting on this historic city park in the heart of Maine’s second largest city.

    A local mother recorded as a mob of teens and children, boys and girls as young as nine years old, brandishing wooden bats and other objects, along with fists, feet and sheer numbers to attack the two non-Somali defenders. At one point you can even here one of the hoodlums repeatedly daring the woman to, “stop me, b**ch.”

  63. Infidel Tiger

    PS, it is now 14° in Perf. My part of it anyway. But it was 9° at 06:30. And it’s still May.

    The brutal Perth winters are a challenge for all but the Eskimo.

  64. None

    Any way good to see a show that tried to normalise transgenderism cancelled.

    yep I reckon after episode 1 the ratings tanked and they were just looking for any excuse to cut it.

  65. Not Uh oh

    I can’t see that channel 7 has copped much flack for actually paying Barnaby the $150k. Obviously it’s better to give than receive.

  66. C.L.

    ABC Online:

    BREAKING NEWS Network 10 says it’s cancelling Roseanne over “appalling and disgusting” racist tweet

    LOL. They’re cancelling a cancelled show. Gotta get that virtue signalling in.

  67. egg_

    And no mention from (American) ABC executives of Whoopi Goldberg, host of The View, and this.

    According to Whoopi, there’s Ape and there’s Ape Ape, right?

  68. Philippa Martyr

    The brutal Perth winters are a challenge for all but the Eskimo.

    Tell me about it.

    I had to put on long sleeves today.

    Long sleeves, no less.

  69. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    the reference was to the Planet of the Apes which is a movie and anyone who has seen that movie knows that Jared looks like one of the actors in it. Get over yourselves, specists.

    it’s offensive to planet of the apes

  70. egg_

    ABC Online:

    BREAKING NEWS Network 10 says it’s cancelling Roseanne

    Aunty is quick to chime in, dumbkat?

  71. Some History

    Long sleeves, no less.

    People should still have the right to bare arms.

  72. Leigh Lowe

    Breaking …
    Barnaby Joyce is taking leave to appear as a wild-card guest on Love Island.

  73. Snoopy

    Perthians only think they get the winter that Brisbane actually enjoys.

  74. We all recall Monty’s outrage when Joe Biden praised Obama as the first “clean” black and Harry Reid praised him as a “negro” who could talk properly and didn’t look too African. And I don’t recall Rosie being promoted to president pro-tempore of the Senate – like Klansman Robert Byrd.

    Obama appointed Biden as his VP after that comment and worked hand-in-glove with Reid for eight years in the Senate, so if he was okay with it then there’s no problem. Also, the KKK is now a Republican stronghold after the implementation of Nixon’s Southern Strategy, e.g. David Duke.

    You should update your talking points CL, they are getting way too easy to bat down.

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If I call you an ape , Monty, is that racist?

    Hairy doesn’t think it is racist about him; it’s simply descriptive.
    He has a hairy barrel chest and walks with a bit of a roll.
    Does impressive ape dancing at parties when fully oiled.

    Better than being a Giraffe like Arky. 🙂

  76. C.L.

    People should still have the right to bare arms.

    Not all people.

  77. Philippa Martyr

    Victoria University trialled the “Block Model” on first-year students this year, where they took just one subject at a time instead of juggling four units.

    The university has deemed the trial so successful it’s extending the model to second year students in 2019 and the entire campus by 2020.

    It will mean this year’s guinea pigs will complete the entirety of their university course in the Block Model.

    “We always expected it to have some positive effect but it’s even better than that,” Vice-Chancellor Prof Peter Dawkins said.

    He said in less than six months, first year attendance rates were up almost 20 per cent while retention rates had also increased (9 per cent) as had pass rates (18 per cent).

    “I’ve never seen anything like it,” Prof Dawkins said.

    “To actually see if shift so dramatically, it is very remarkable.”

    The model — adopted by select universities in Sweden, Canada and North America — aims to stop students from dropping out.

    They will still study four units a semester, but will do so in four-week blocks on set days and times.

    I am doing a Graduate Diploma at the moment in 6-week block model. In theory there’s nothing wrong with the way it’s delivered, and given the speed of information technology today and the amount of stuff available online for students to read and analyse, there’s no reason why a basic humanities degree couldn’t be completed in a year to 18 months.

    But of course, there’s no extra funding for doing thing this way, so there should be a shift in the bottom line for universities which they will have to make up in some other way.

    Such as, for example, forcing all students to do an additional 18-month degree on top of their chosen degree, before they’re ‘qualified’. Or increasing the number of 4-week units that make up a degree so that they fit three years, which is what everyone is comfortable with in terms of funding intake.

    I can’t see universities actually wanting to get rid of cash cows students sooner.

  78. struth

    Monty, if I call you an ape, is that racist?

  79. C.L.

    What Grad Dip are you doing, Philippa?

  80. cohenite

    The only objection I have to Kessler’s article is that he assumes that all Muslims take their religion seriously.

    I don’t think he says that:

    Among Muslims worldwide today, about 10 to 15 per cent, it may be suggested, are modernist, reform-minded and democratic; perhaps another 10 to 15 per cent are militant, radical, extreme and potentially active in violent forms.

    Between these two clusters, the 70 per cent in the middle represent what may be called conventional or quasi-traditional Islam.

    The question is: what is the relation of the views of the radical extreme to those of the centrist mainstream? Are they opposed, a deviationist breakaway, or are they basically identical, or at least complementary?

    It would be reassuring if things were otherwise, but the basic facts are clear. Like the radical fringe or fundamentalist extreme, the Muslim mainstream adheres to, through explicit affirmation or by unreflecting habitual assent, the same underlying propositions that constitute the radical and militant world view. Like that of the militants, their Islam, or view of it, is basically supersessionist.

    That is, they hold, as core Islamic doctrine has held from the outset in its Koranic foundations, that Islam embodies and carries forward all that was once good in Judaism and Christianity (a fact that now makes those predecessors superfluous and lacking in continuing spiritual value and authenticity); and that what it does not carry forward from them is not good (and was the expression of an earlier, incomplete and defective revelation or else the result of the subsequent faults, sometimes wilful, in the recording and transmission of the sacred revelation by rabbis and priests).

    John’s original distinction between radical and non-radical I think is better expressed as violent and non-violent.

  81. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #2723754, posted on May 30, 2018 at 9:53 am
    You laugh at labelling black people as apes, JC? In 2018?

    We all recall Monty’s outrage when Joe Biden praised Obama as the first “clean” black and Harry Reid praised him as a “negro” who could talk properly and didn’t look too African. And I don’t recall Rosie being promoted to president pro-tempore of the Senate – like Klansman Robert Byrd.

    And Bill Clinton commented about Obama that a few years earlier, he would have been serving the coffee. As we all know, it’s different when the fascist left do it.

  82. Monty, if I call you an ape, is that racist?

    No. White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes. Black people have.

  83. Philippa Martyr

    Breaking …
    Barnaby Joyce is taking leave to appear as a wild-card guest on Love Island.

    You can’t help who you fall in love with, apparently.

    Vikki’s dad’s presence or otherwise on this blog notwithstanding, these two crack me up. Dorothy Parker coined the phrase ‘road-company Paolo and Francesca’, and I think it’s well applied here.

    Every cliche in the book, from Barnaby’s sexless marriage and wife who didn’t understand him, to Vikki’s inevitable declaration above – with the customary total disregard for the fact that hundreds of thousands of people fall in love every day with the wrong people, but somehow manage to control themselves and not bust up their marriages and workplaces.

    And loveable ol’ rough diamond Barnaby is such a prize that he’s already thrown Vikki under a bus twice – questioning the paternity of the baby, and then blaming her for negotiating the 150K.

    At some point Tim Blair is surely going to have to acknowledge that his delightful lady media chum has backed the wrong horse.

    And Natalie Joyce should be doing the math, and completing that Form 11 as rapidly and as advantageously as she can.

  84. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2723735, posted on May 30, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Struth, says I, you must be one of them there one percenters……
    For that sort of money you could have bought a double decaf latte mochado with a pattern drawn on top in a paper cup in Northbridge surrounded by man buns and mamils.

    I’m not a snob, Struth, but there are decent limits.

    An American friend I sent a copy of Gods, Graves and Scholars to many years ago when she was just a teeny-bopper is now doing a part time degree. Next month she does her first field class, excavating a ghost town. Mycenae or Knossos it ain’t, but I am so green with envy. Give me a few red pimples and I could be taken for a holly bush.

  85. Philippa Martyr

    What Grad Dip are you doing, Philippa?

    Psychology, at Monash.

    I’m half-way through. It’s a really good course, and I’m doing it all online, with a live tutorial every week through Blackboard, and there’s weekly assessment in each unit so you get plenty of feedback on how you’re tracking.

    Monash give you a ton of student support as well, which is also helpful.

    Especially relishing the hard science part, and I even enjoyed the first stats unit.

  86. Tel

    We all recall Monty’s outrage when Joe Biden praised Obama as the first “clean” black and Harry Reid praised him as a “negro” who could talk properly and didn’t look too African.

    The “Progressives” set the standard when they depicted George Bush as a chimp.

    Sorry guys, you made the rules, you now get to live by them. No more hypocrisy, huh?

  87. JC

    You laugh at labelling black people as apes, JC? In 2018?

    I’m not equating black people with apes. That’s you doing it.

    In fact, I’d argue you’re closest to our ape cousins, Monst.

  88. Boambee John

    JC

    m0nty’s trolling has been very low energy of late. He seems depressed. Has he been in touch with the Hotline?

  89. Geriatric mayfly

    Islamic scamps at play.

    Of course. It’s Ramadamadingdong. Go to Robert Spencer’s Jihad Watch and you will see that the festivity of corpse piling has been in full swing for over a week.

  90. DrBeauGan

    Especially relishing the hard science part, and I even enjoyed the first stats unit.

    Pippa, I hate to break it to you, but there isn’t any hard science in psychology. Try doing physics or chemistry for a semester to see the difference.

  91. egg_

    questioning the paternity of the baby, and then blaming her for negotiating the 150K.

    All part of the strategy against the Left, whom they’d both know only too well IMHO.
    None here likely condone what they’ve done, but there is still cause for empathy.

  92. thefrolickingmole

    Could he be more of a cartoon bad guy if he tried?

    Soros-backed campaign to push for new Brexit vote within a year

    In a speech on Tuesday ahead of the launch of the Best for Britain campaign – said to have already attracted millions of pounds in donations – Soros suggested to an audience in Paris that changing the minds of Britons would be in keeping with “revolutionary times”.

    Best for Britain had already helped to convince parliamentarians to extract from Theresa May a meaningful vote on the final withdrawal deal, he said, and it was time to engage with voters, and Brussels, to pave the way for the UK to stay in the bloc. It is expected to publish its campaign manifesto on 8 June.
    ..

    All he need is the bald cat and a love of “Goooooold”…

  93. JC

    No. White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes. Black people have.

    Perhaps not as apes, but rats maybe?

  94. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    No. White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes. Black people have.

    racist AI
    A major flaw in Google’s algorithm allegedly tagged two black people’s faces with the word ‘gorillas’

  95. Geriatric mayfly

    The beards are burning.

    A US rocket artillery strike last week on a gathering of Taliban leaders in southern Afghanistan killed at least 50 of them, a US military official says.

  96. struth

    No one is equating black people with apes but you Monty.
    You are the racist.
    You actually think black people are closer to apes than whites and that is why you have a fit when you hear people callung black people apes.
    It’s classic lefty projection.
    I have a white friend who we call godzilla because he is big and hairy.
    You would not see that as racist.
    But if he were black, you would.
    This exposes your true left wing racism and hypocrisy.
    You are so scared of your own deeply imbedded racism that you throw it at non racists when your vile racism confronts you.
    That’s why the left are screaming now.
    Here’s what is actually going on.
    Someone likens someone to a character on planet of the apes.
    The racist left scream “how dare you call those ape people apes out loud”
    True racism in the hearts of left wing flth.
    You’re always on about it because your own sick twisted racism won’t leave you alone.

  97. JC

    I love leftwing “logic”. All my learning life I/we’ve been taught that we descended from apes and calamari prior to getting out of the water on our own two newly evolved feet.

    You accuse someone of descending from a movie depicting apes and you immediately get canned for causing offence.

    HTF does that work?

  98. Zyconoclast

    If the churches were full every week, they would not have to worry about them being sold off.

    I suspect the Anglican Church is secretly happy they have an excuse to off-load the properties so they no longer have to maintain them.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/tasmanian-church-sales-spark-fears-for-cemeteries/9814526

    The Anglican Church of Tasmania has earmarked 108 properties for sale, to help fund $8.6 million in redress for survivors of child s3xual abuse.

  99. No one is equating black people with apes but you Monty.
    You are the racist.

    Roseanne just equated a black person with an ape, struth.

    You lot may have a safe space here where you can all pretend that what she said was not racist, but she just learned about what happens when you roll out that garbage to a mainstream audience. Of course none of you will take it as the teachable moment it is.

  100. Zyconoclast

    Coming to a mainland capital soon.

    The Hobart City Council will today be offered a new Indigenous name for the Tasmanian capital in palawa kani, the revived Tasmanian Aboriginal language.

    TAC chief executive officer Heather Sculthorpe wanted to keep the name under wraps until after today’s formal presentation but said it was the original and proper name for the city.

    To date, 13 places have been assigned Aboriginal names under the Tasmanian Government’s Aboriginal and Dual Naming Policy, including Hobart’s mountain kunanyi/Mount Wellington.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/hobart-offered-new-aboriginal-name/9812664

  101. Priest Tells Couple They May Not Get Married in a Catholic Church If They Support Abortion:

    A Northern Ireland priest became the target of negative publicity last week when he expressed concern about a couple’s abortion advocacy and their desire to be married in the Catholic Church.

    As abortion advocates, the couple directly opposes Catholic Church teachings about the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death.

    In a private message to the couple, Father Damien Quigley of the Diocese of Armagh asked to meet with the couple about this conflict of values before moving forward with plans for their marriage, The Belfast Telegraph reports.

    Someone, possibly the unnamed couple, shared Quigley’s message with BBC Radio Ulster’s Nolan Show on Tuesday, likely in an attempt to incite negative publicity.

    Funny how this private communication managed to find itself in the lap of the BBC. Scum and lees.

  102. Philippa Martyr

    Pippa, I hate to break it to you, but there isn’t any hard science in psychology. Try doing physics or chemistry for a semester to see the difference.

    Beaugie, I hate to contradict you, but there is, especially in the behavioural and human biology stuff.

    It’s just that it may not be terribly useful in the long run. The more we unpack the idiosyncrasies of brain architecture, and the more neuroplasticity impacts on our understanding of the human person in the way that chaos theory impacted on maths and physics, the less we realise we really know.

    Which makes it a philosophical rather than a hard science question.

    In the meantime, I find I enjoy using SPSS.

  103. Zyconoclast

    Zippy
    You beat me to that one

  104. Boambee John

    Interesting that tge “revived” Tasmanian aboriginal language apparently does not include capitalisation.

    There was no written language, so how do they know?

  105. notafan

    No. White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes. Black people have.

    Are you sure about that monty?

    A scholarly person of my acquaintance put forward a very good case that islam is responsible for the colour hierarchy as a way to overcome the koranic prohibition on muslim ownership of other muslims as slaves, Arabs claiming kinship with mohammed naturally sitting at the top.

    Prior to that no such heirachy existed and just about anyone could be enslaved, just look at St Patrick.

    The work ‘Slav’ is also likely to be a derogatory Arabic term justifying the enslavement of the white people of the Balkans, I bet you can’t guess what the word ‘Slav’ is similar too.

    a small example, abd means both black and slave (and abdullah means slave of allah)

    as for mocking racial characteristics, everyone on this earth does it, it’s just that western civilization has far more books and records of her history.

    That a small number of whites carried on a similar justification for slavery of blacks based on alleged not quite human is comparatively recent and and short lived.

    Islam is the outstanding, significant, dominating ideology that separates humanity into muslim = human and non muslim= not quite human classifications (that still keeps slaves where it can)

  106. Some History

    TAC chief executive officer Heather Sculthorpe wanted to keep the name under wraps until after today’s formal presentation but said it was the original and proper name for the city.

    “Krapanyi”

    There are probably plenty of folk that would be quite happy to use this name.

  107. struth

    You learn nothing Monty.
    The answer to your last dickhead comment is found in my last comment.

    But I give you this would be hard for you to confront without blowing your mind.
    It goes to the very core of the racist hypocritical creep you are.

  108. Confused Old Misfit

    the teachable moment

    It has got all the progressive buzz words at its fingertips, it has!

    Clever little proggy!

  109. Some History

    The Sydney to Krapanyi Yacht Race.

    Sounds marvelous.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    Philippa Martyr

    #2723794, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:19 am

    What Grad Dip are you doing, Philippa?

    Psychology, at Monash.

    Surrounded by case study material, then?

  111. Peter Campion

    Cats, Kitteh – quick

    What’s Talkbull’s kid’s name?

    Where’s said kid’s investment in wind held?

    I can feel a chat with a journo coming on and I reckon the punditry’s outrage about Baanaby’s kid scoring with Big Media while there’s a ringing silence about Talkbull’s kid scoring from Big Wind needs examining.

  112. egg_

    White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes.

    Northern Italians refer to Southerners as ‘monkeys’ – from a Sicilian mate.

  113. Confused Old Misfit

    JC
    #2723829, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:43 am

    Is that knock kneed lump of lard really him?

  114. Death Giraffe

    No. White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes. Black people have

    ..
    An ebola infected orifice dribbles more historic understanding than Monty.
    The Romans revelled in killing barbarians based on the asumption they were sub- human.

  115. Andreas

    No one is equating black people with apes but you Monty.
    You are the racist.

    Roseanne just equated a black person with an ape, struth.

    One person, singular. Not all black people. To assume she thinks all black people are like apes is nasty.

  116. Geriatric mayfly

    Didn’t Bruce Ruxton refer to a colourful South African prelate as a monkey? If so, he should be disinterred and dealt with according to the rules in vogue this week.

  117. JC

    egg_
    #2723841, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:52 am

    White people have not been persecuted through history on the basis of their likeness to apes.

    Northern Italians refer to Southerners as ‘monkeys’ – from a Sicilian mate.

    That’s no biggie. Dutch supermodel, Johanna does those most days here hurling insults at me.

  118. None

    I suspect the Anglican Church is secretly happy they have an excuse to off-load the properties so they no longer have to maintain them.

    the churches are maintained by the local parishes and clearly that article shows that parishioners want to keep their churches as well as their cemeteries. They have more understanding of the importance of keeping their churches than the hierarchy that runs the join. It was priests and Bishops who abused parishioners and yet parishioners are still asked to pay the price.

  119. H B Bear

    when his body was allegedly fed into a woodchipper.
    Hard to think of a better way to leave a lot of DNA evidence.

    Thermomix. Especially if the lid fails.

  120. Baldrick

    Not to be outdone by the American lame stream media, TheirABC finds an angle to try and embarrass Fatty Trump:

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    OPINION: Donald Trump-friendly comedian Roseanne Barr misread the room with racist joke

  121. egg_

    Baa Humbug
    #2483178, posted on August 30, 2017 at 10:35 am
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Malcolm Turnbull’s son is heavily into renewable energy businesses.

  122. Death Giraffe

    Is Monty ever right about anything?

  123. notafan

    I’m confused about the Roman slaughter of Barbarians

    Thought it was the other way round

    wiki on Barbarians

  124. DrBeauGan

    Beaugie, I hate to contradict you, but there is, especially in the behavioural and human biology stuff.

    Nope. It’s not as squishy as most of it, but it’s still not remotely hard science. If we make enough progress in things like adaptive stochastic control it might be in a century or two.

    Psychology bears the same relationship to science as mediaeval alchemy does to chemistry. And that’s being kind.

    I read the first year psychology text book at UWA in a weekend. The density of information was so low, it was hard going. Compare with the first ten pages of Feynman’s lecture notes on physics which has a hundred times the content.

  125. egg_

    max
    #2682723, posted on April 9, 2018 at 10:40 pm
    The thing is so many interests are locked in to the continuation and expansion of renewables. Union super funds, forward thinking progressives everywhere, academics, journalists, the ABC, Turnbull’s son making a motza – they all have staked fortunes, reputations and careers on the shiny new stuff.

    They’ll never give up.

  126. Zyconoclast

    Tesla has committed to an expansion of its Australian Supercharger network, outlining plans for 18 high-speed charging stations set to be operational within the next 18 months.

    https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/tesla-pumps-up-australian-supercharger-network-118327.html?ffref=smh&trackLink=SMH2

  127. egg_

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    OPINION: Donald Trump-friendly comedian Roseanne Barr misread the room with racist joke

    It didn’t take the turds long to chime in.

  128. Geriatric mayfly

    Jay Furr
    @jayfurr
    @USGSVolcanoes Is it safe to roast marshmallows over volcanic vents? Assuming you had a long enough stick, that is? Or would the resulting marshmallows be poisonous? @JimGriffith_SV @DrFunkySpoon
    11:53

    Domestic science 101

  129. Baldrick

    Strange how TheirABC never labelled Kathy Griffin a ‘Hillary Clinton-friendly comedian’.

  130. C.L.

    Roseanne just equated a black person with an ape, struth.

    Who cares, really?
    Brown people equate white people with all manner of evils and caricatures every day of the week.
    I can remember years ago when leftists lionised Roseanne for mock-singing the US national anthem and, more recently, rushed to tout has a victim of Trump.
    That she could be sacked while Whoopi Goldberg could keep her job after literally endorsing child r-ape is an obvious and egregious hypocrisy that cannot be outraged away.
    Roseanne’s demise is being celebrated for one reason and one reason only: she supported Trump.

  131. Andreas

    I do think it’s rude to compare a black a person to an ape, given the history, but the right response to it is Eddie Betts’, where he forgave it and laughed it off and said let’s get on with the footy. Leave the past in the past. The left though likes to keep old wounds open and keep black people in perpetual victim mode.

  132. egg_

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    OPINION: Donald Trump-friendly comedian Roseanne Barr misread the room with racist joke

    Aunty betrays that she’s from the dark side of the Force.

  133. Peter Campion

    Thanks HZ – #2723860, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:12 am

    Just found this one, too – https://stopthesethings.com/tag/alex-turnbull-infigen/

    STT might have been where I saw it…

  134. egg_

    Gweilo means nothing to M0nster?

    Cracker?

  135. DrBeauGan

    PS. I’m glad you’re having fun with SPSS. It’s been more abused than any package in history.

  136. egg_

    Chris Rock uses (whip) ‘Cracker’ in his shows on a regular basis.

  137. JC

    You know, it’s a pretty fucking incredible world when eggsactly one day earlier Louis Farrakhan calls for “the end of white men” (and nothing happens) while Barr gets canned for suggesting Jarret, is an extra in Planet of the Apes.

  138. Andreas

    The left: “Hey black people, REMEMBER, you used to *all* be compared to apes!!!”
    Lovely friends, hey. Not going to let them forget that one.

  139. C.L.

    Strange how TheirABC never labelled Kathy Griffin a ‘Hillary Clinton-friendly comedian’.

    “Comedians” nowadays – 90 percent of them – are official state comedians.
    This is especially true in sad, incestuous little Australia where they appear on one another’s TV shows (nauseatingly desperate to crack into TV themselves) and ‘joke’ about all of the usual conservative, male, heterosexual, Christian and white targets, knowing that such ‘humour’ is 1) licenced by the authorities; and 2) a sine quo non for the aforementioned TV slot of their own.

  140. Baldrick

    Leftard hypocrisy #256,844:

    Mark Dice ✔ @MarkDice
    Roseanne head writer Wanda Sykes (who quit the show today over her ‘ape’ comment before it was canceled) compared President Trump to an ape.

    (0:18 video)

  141. DrBeauGan

    PPS, Pippa, did you do Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing in your stats unit?

  142. Boambee John

    A Northern Ireland priest became the target of negative publicity last week when he expressed concern about a couple’s abortion advocacy and their desire to be married in the Catholic Church.

    m0nty’s crew, claim to be Catholic, but don’t want to adhere to the doctrine.

  143. Shy Ted

    The Hobart City Council will today be offered a new Indigenous name for the Tasmanian capital in palawa kani, the revived Tasmanian Aboriginal language.
    Gimme Gimme? Mapa Tassie? Medads Mebruvva?

  144. egg_

    Wanda Sykes… compared President Trump to an ape.

    I thought he was the ‘Orange Man’ orangutan?

  145. Senile Old Guy

    I read the first year psychology text book at UWA in a weekend. The density of information was so low, it was hard going. Compare with the first ten pages of Feynman’s lecture notes on physics which has a hundred times the content.

    It is a ridiculous comparison. First, physics has a much longer history as an experimental science. Second, physics deals with things with consistent properties. Psychology deals with organisms which can change their own behaviour. Third, physics still cannot explain “action at a distance” or other strange phenomena. Fourth, many potential experiments in psychology are ethically impossible, making some phenomena difficult to investigate. Fifth, many claims of physical models remain untested and potentially untestable (in the real world). Finally, certain aspects of psychological theory have been experimentally tested and verified.

  146. Jessie

    A most interesting account relating the development of Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder in the DSM – Mental Disorders, in particular diagnostic bracket creep…… 1980s from 134pages to 494 pages………….
    The Surprising History of Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder

  147. stackja

    Shy Ted
    #2723881, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:27 am

    Until Michael Mansell suddenly appeared, we were informed there no longer any Aboriginal people in Tas.

  148. C.L.

    A Northern Ireland priest became the target of negative publicity last week when he expressed concern about a couple’s abortion advocacy and their desire to be married in the Catholic Church.

    As abortion advocates, the couple directly opposes Catholic Church teachings about the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death.

    Never mind expressing concern.
    He should not marry them, period.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Hobart City Council will today be offered a new Indigenous name for the Tasmanian capital in palawa kani, the revived Tasmanian Aboriginal language.

    From the article

    What has come through very clearly [during Reconciliation Week] is that it is the non-Aboriginal population that has to decide what steps they want to take to reconcile with the Aboriginal community.

    Be careful of asking such a question. The answer may come back “Well, bugger all, actually.”

  150. C.L.

    Psychology bears the same relationship to science as mediaeval alchemy does to chemistry. And that’s being kind.

    Right.
    It’s a baloney discipline tarted up with some quants and statistics to make it seem sciencey.

  151. Philippa Martyr

    Philippa Martyr

    #2723794, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:19 am

    What Grad Dip are you doing, Philippa?

    Psychology, at Monash.

    Surrounded by case study material, then?

    As the late lamented Sophie Tucker used to sing, “Ohhhhh, you have no idea …”

    I only come to the Cat for my case studies these days.

  152. struth;

    I’m not being corny but I think I’ll say a prayer for a brave young Pom.

    What TR is doing takes guts, both physically and emotionally.
    I would like to think I would be brave enough to emulate him, but you never know until it happens.

  153. mh

    Plenty of fat to cut at the ABC.

  154. struth

    I’d like anyone anywhere to be able to prove that was the indigenous name for the Hobart area.
    You might also note the absence of aboriginal names given to Tassie towns.
    Wonder why?
    Bugger, it’s a mystery.
    Trugannini was the last of a race of people remarkably different to mainland abs and killed off by disease.

  155. Geriatric mayfly

    Don’t know how many pages are printed in worthy tomes on Oppositional Defiance Disorder in little tykes.
    First treatment – NO! Ultimate recourse – wooden spoon.

    Next challenge: ADHD.

  156. Philippa Martyr

    Right.
    It’s a baloney discipline tarted up with some quants and statistics to make it seem sciencey.

    LOL

    I sometimes miss the Cat for its sheer joie de vivre, delivered from behind such an extensive array of pseudonyms, and with such dubious or indeed non-existent qualifications of their own.

    Reminds me of when Bernard Lane from The Australian was attempting to interview me via email, and kept putting my name in inverted commas, because he couldn’t believe someone would have a name like that in real life.

  157. egg_

    certain aspects of psychological theory have been experimentally tested and verified.

    The Black Box analogy.

  158. stackja

    C.L.
    #2723887, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:33 am

    Priest will be charged with offensive behaviour?

  159. JC

    Right.
    It’s a baloney discipline tarted up with some quants and statistics to make it seem sciencey.

    You think? Some of it is total bullshit, but a lot of isn’t. Modern psych possibly began with the study of human intelligence and its variability. It’s mostly pretty sciency and taken us a lot of distance in understanding human behaviour.

  160. egg_

    Next challenge: ADHD.

    A big book on Psychology – belt them with that!
    /Benny Hill

  161. Crossie

    “Comedians” nowadays – 90 percent of them – are official state comedians.
    This is especially true in sad, incestuous little Australia where they appear on one another’s TV shows (nauseatingly desperate to crack into TV themselves) and ‘joke’ about all of the usual conservative, male, heterosexual, Christian and white targets, knowing that such ‘humour’ is 1) licenced by the authorities; and 2) a sine quo non for the aforementioned TV slot of their own.

    Reminds me of all those underground Soviet jokes from 70s and 80s. Never thought I would get to experience them in person.

    I still have a book of those jokes somewhere, must dig it up for a laugh.

  162. Philippa Martyr

    You think? Some of it is total bullshit, but a lot of isn’t. Modern psych possibly began with the study of human intelligence and its variability. It’s mostly pretty sciency and taken us a lot of distance in understanding human behaviour.

    Oh JC. Why bother? They all know heaps more than us.

    (Actually I am only here today because I’m drowning in marking, and it makes my face ache. But it’s better to have a face ache than to be one).

  163. Boambee John

    Is m0nty’s trolling an indicator of the gradual collapse of the Wussia, Wussia, Wussia narrative?

    A couple of weeks ago, the “Trump Tower” transcripts were released. This should have been vindication day for the narrative, but m0nty spent the day posting about solar and wind energy.

    Now the reality of Demorat spying on the Trump campaign has been accepted, and the very weak spin that it was only to protect Trump is going nowhere, and m0nty has discovered racism and apes.

    What irrelevance will he follow next week? The only certainty is that m0nty will continue to be a loyal running dog lackey of the fascist left establishment.

  164. struth

    Reconciliation to me would mean aboriginal people waking up to those that are the ones really hurting them.
    Racist tax hoovering lefties in the abo industry.
    I would then like a sorry from them and some form of recognition that they only survive at all because by the grace of a Christian god, Britain colonised the place first.

  165. thefrolickingmole

    More on the hubris of the EU.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/29/carlo-cottarelli-italy-mr-scissors-gives-markets-jitters-over-fate-eurozone

    That, though, doesn’t seem remotely likely, judging by the remark of Germany’s European commissioner, Günther Oettinger, who said the markets would “teach the Italians to vote for the right thing”.

    Oettinger’s comments reflect the view in Brussels and Berlin that Italy can be given the same hardline treatment as Greece. The populist parties say a relaxation of the EU’s strict budget rules would lead to faster growth, but that is seen as unacceptable. The assumption is that sooner or later Italy will cave in, just as Greece did in 2015.

    Yet Italy is in a different category from its Mediterranean neighbour. It is much bigger and has never been comfortable as a member of the single currency. Growth is slow, living standards have stagnated, unemployment is high. Monetary union would have survived the departure of Greece; it would not survive the loss of Italy.

    The beatings will continue until you learn to love me.
    Germany: Fucking Europe up since September 9 AD

  166. Atoms for Peace

    How come we didn’t get to have an input onto renaming Hobart. Dilligaf would be a winner.

  167. JC

    Monetary union would have survived the departure of Greece; it would not survive the loss of Italy.

    I’m not sure it wouldn’t survive. As someone mentioned in Barrons this week, Italy outside of the Euro wouldn’t resemble Greece, it would look like Britain.

    You know, I’m not suggesting it will happen as the odds don’t look that way, but there is a chance Italy will leave the Euro. I reckon it’s about 20%. At least that’s what the bond market may be suggesting.

  168. DrBeauGan

    Senile Old Guy
    #2723883, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    I read the first year psychology text book at UWA in a weekend. The density of information was so low, it was hard going. Compare with the first ten pages of Feynman’s lecture notes on physics which has a hundred times the content.

    It is a ridiculous comparison. First, physics has a much longer history as an experimental science. Second, physics deals with things with consistent properties. Psychology deals with organisms which can change their own behaviour. Third, physics still cannot explain “action at a distance” or other strange phenomena. Fourth, many potential experiments in psychology are ethically impossible, making some phenomena difficult to investigate. Fifth, many claims of physical models remain untested and potentially untestable (in the real world). Finally, certain aspects of psychological theory have been experimentally tested and verified.

    You appear to agree with me, SOG. Your arguments do indeed show, those that aren’t based on solid ignorance, that psychology has a long, long way to go before it can be called a hard science.

  169. Philippa Martyr

    Tasmania’s so pretty; I’d love to see it turned into a holiday park for rich Mainlanders, dotted with hipster hobby farms, and with every inch of architecture preserved from any change whatsoever.

    Oh hang on.

  170. stackja

    Who created “Aboriginal history”?

  171. Infidel Tiger

    You think? Some of it is total bullshit, but a lot of isn’t. Modern psych possibly began with the study of human intelligence and its variability. It’s mostly pretty sciency and taken us a lot of distance in understanding human behaviour.

    There’s some pretty hard sciency type stats coming out about children who grow up without fathers.

    Not good.

  172. Crossie

    Günther Oettinger, who said the markets would “teach the Italians to vote for the right thing”.

    Germany is scaring most of its neighbours, east and west, but they are too smug to realise it.

  173. egg_

    The Black Box analogy.

    Narcs are said to be as predictable as clockwork, almost programmable IME.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    I only come to the Cat for my case studies these days.

    Target rich environment.
    From the Psych text-book I have identified 5 x Chapter Sevens, 3 x Chapter Fives, 1 chronic case of Chapter Nine, and 2 early onset cases of Chapter Four.
    There is one composite case of Chapters 15, 3, 5 and 12, but no names.

  175. DrBeauGan

    Oh JC. Why bother? They all know heaps more than us.

    Fact check: Partly true. JC has many virtues, but a knowledge of science isn’t one of them.

    CL has a far better grasp of the state of psychology as a pseudoscience.

    You didn’t answer my question on Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing, Pippa.

  176. OneWorldGovernment

    Peter Campion
    #2723840, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:51 am

    Cats, Kitteh – quick

    What’s Talkbull’s kid’s name?

    Where’s said kid’s investment in wind held?

    I can feel a chat with a journo coming on and I reckon the punditry’s outrage about Baanaby’s kid scoring with Big Media while there’s a ringing silence about Talkbull’s kid scoring from Big Wind needs examining.

    paid by China.

    Call him Lucy.

  177. stackja

    Philippa Martyr
    #2723917, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:53 am

    The house on the property in Liffey, Tasmania, formerly belonging to Greens Senator Bob Brown.
    Updated 20 Mar 2011, 5:42pm
    The house on Bob Brown’s Liffey property, which he has given to Bush Heritage Australia.
    Jessica Kidd: ABC News

  178. Leigh Lowe

    There’s some pretty hard sciency type stats coming out about children who grow up without fathers.

    And children who don’t get to grow up because new Daddy wants to root mummy but isn’t overly keen on her kids by a previous daddy.

  179. mh

    “Comedians” nowadays – 90 percent of them – are official state comedians.

    So true. America – AMERICA FFS! – is probably the worst. Every late night talk show host has to be an Obama lick-arse, the news bulletins run with SNL anti-Trump sketches, popular shows like Tim Allen and Roseanne get canned because someone from the Deep State doesn’t like a tweet or the tone of a comment. FFS, Alec Baldwin is not a fucking comedian!

  180. stackja

    Leigh Lowe
    #2723927, posted on May 30, 2018 at 11:59 am
    There’s some pretty hard sciency type stats coming out about children who grow up without fathers.

    And children who don’t get to grow up because new Daddy wants to root mummy but isn’t overly keen on her kids by a previous daddy.

    And if DOCS is afraid of ‘stealing’?

  181. egg_

    I only come to the Cat for my case studies these days.

    As a resident troll has learned, posting with female socks will garner much craved attention.

  182. Philippa Martyr

    Fact check: Partly true. JC has many virtues, but a knowledge of science isn’t one of them.

    CL has a far better grasp of the state of psychology as a pseudoscience.

    Fact check: JC disagrees with Beaugie. CL agrees with Beaugie. Thus, the echo chamber is complete, and confirmation bias is firmly locked in place. Phew. Thank goodness.

    You didn’t answer my question on Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing, Pippa.

    I ignore stuff like this, because I recognise when someone wants to get up on their hind legs and wave their (less than significant) willy in the air.

    We’re waiting. Well, some of us are. But I’ll be marking these wretched papers.

  183. Philippa Martyr

    As a resident troll has learned, posting with female socks will garner much craved attention.

    I only wish I could remember the name of that one that had a thing for me, and eventually got banned. There’s a whole honours project, right there.

  184. areff

    I still have a book of those jokes somewhere, must dig it up for a laugh.

    When you’ve found your Soviet jokes, see if you can dig up a copy of Moscow Circles. It’s a hoot for all time.

  185. C.L.

    There’s some pretty hard sciency type stats coming out about children who grow up without fathers.

    I think that was already well known – by most human beings on the planet; for many millennia.

  186. JC

    Doc

    You wouldn’t have a clue how much science I know. If I need you to mark my paper, I’ll ask, so no need to volunteer your services.

    Modern psych derived from the study of human intel – the US armed services around WW1. The work that has been done in that area is as close to hard science applying statistical method as we’ve seen. It’s seriously fucking robust.

    Of course, soft sciences aren’t like the stuff you test in a lab. It has more to do with propensity, which is plenty good enough to offer a guide.

  187. OneWorldGovernment

    Peter Campion

    Tell the Barnaby that he can redeem himself by taking away the crap of CO2 poison.

  188. stackja

    I assume tick box is:

    The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), the EU’s new privacy law, aims to bring order to a patchwork of privacy rules across the EU. As GDPR is a regulation, not a directive, it has binding legal force and will be immediately enforceable as law in all EU member states on May 25, 2018.

    And:

    This site uses Akismet to reduce spam

  189. Senile Old Guy

    You appear to agree with me, SOG. Your arguments do indeed show, those that aren’t based on solid ignorance, that psychology has a long, long way to go before it can be called a hard science.

    Dr BG has read one first year textbook and is now an expert on psychology.

  190. John Constantine:

    Then he mentions the headline in his local paper reads that his council are lifting farm rates twenty-five percent and cutting residential rates ten percent.

    Does he mention the screams from the local businessmen who will now have to drop prices to compete with the fact the farmer will outsource supply from a cheaper competitor?
    How about the fact the businesses that depend on the farmer will have to lay off staff to make ends meet?
    It’s no good having a 10% drop in your rates if your income drops 100%.

  191. Old School Conservative

    The two police killed by an “Allahu Akbar” shouting terrorist in Belgium were women.
    The terrorist stabbed them, took their guns, shot them, and also killed a nearby male driver.
    He was killed as he took another woman hostage. He also shot arriving police, mainly in their legs.

    No outrage evident yet, but some expressions of “solidarity”.
    Just a minor irritant.

  192. C.L.

    I really feel sorry for those z-listers on the Roseanne show. (Excepting Goodman).
    This was a chance for them to get ahead, financially.
    I don’t think their careers were exactly flying before the surprise revival of the show.

  193. mh

    Anthony
    #2723589, posted on May 30, 2018 at 4:33 am

    Just trying to read the Roseanne Barr story on Fox News only to have it freeze up within a few minutes. This happened twice. Could someone be attempting to prevent Fox from even reporting the story?

    I can’t get through to Infowars.com.

  194. OneWorldGovernment

    Lucy’s son married a Chinese and invests in Chinese manufactured CO2 alarmism.

    Therese Rain’s daughter is married to Chinese.

    Who’s got the money now you scum.

  195. Zippy;

    A much better word than deradicalisation is de-islamification.

    Inoculate, isolate, incinerate.
    Just like you do with any memeplague.

  196. DrBeauGan

    I T, in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, vicars would scamper over the Sussex downs with butterfly nets. They collected a number of biological facts, also some butterflies. Useful work and quite interesting, but not science. Darwin also collected a large number of biological facts and then came up with a theory to account for them. This is science.

    Collecting facts about fatherless kids is again a useful activity and has significant implications. The only thing that’s sciency about it is the use of statistics, which is decoration rather than central to the activity. If you have enough data, you don’t need stats, which is about inference in uncertainty.

  197. JC

    I think that was already well known – by most human beings on the planet; for many millennia.

    But what’s wrong with quantifying and formalizing it in a study?

    Pysch done well adds to human understanding and knowledge. Sure there’s a great deal of crap out there trying to pass itself as psych science when it’s little more than leftwing propaganda.

    For instance, there was Texas research that came out a few years ago showing just how deleterious it is for kids to be raised in single-sex relationships that are posing as a family. Now, our intuition would tell us that, but it’s also good to see it as research. It sent the left batshit crazy.

    We shouldn’t be throwing the kid out with the dirty water even though it may have pissed in it… like the left does with all science.

  198. OneWorldGovernment

    DrBeauGan
    #2723951, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    I T, in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, vicars would scamper over the Sussex downs with butterfly nets. They collected a number of biological facts, also some butterflies. Useful work and quite interesting, but not science. Darwin also collected a large number of biological facts and then came up with a theory to account for them. This is science.

    Collecting facts about fatherless kids is again a useful activity and has significant implications. The only thing that’s sciency about it is the use of statistics, which is decoration rather than central to the activity. If you have enough data, you don’t need stats, which is about inference in uncertainty.

    Love your work.

    Have a cigar.

  199. stackja

    What would Walt think about his company today?

  200. egg_

    Therese Rain’s daughter is married to Chinese.

    Jessica exports stuff to China for her income.

  201. jupes

    Valerie Jarrett responds to Rosanne Barr and blames …

    … you guessed it.

  202. egg_

    Valerie Jarrett responds to Rosanne Barr and blames …

    … you guessed it.

    Ape vs Orangutan

  203. Top Ender

    Sorry, I was texting while the car was on autopilot:

    The driver of a Tesla Model S crashed into an unoccupied, parked police vehicle in Laguna Beach, California, today, and the driver told investigators the Tesla was in “Autopilot” mode at the time, police said.

    The driver suffered minor injuries, Laguna Beach Sergeant Jim Cota said, who posted photos of the crash scene showing extensive damage to the front end of the Tesla and the rear side of the police vehicle.

    Autopilot is a semi-autonomous technology that the company says is a form of advanced cruise control.

    “Tesla has always been clear that Autopilot doesn’t make the car impervious to all accidents,” the company said in a statement after the accident and could not immediately confirm the driver’s report that the vehicle was in Autopilot mode.

    Several crashes and fire incidents involving Tesla vehicles this year has been a near constant headache for Chief Executive Elon Musk, who boasts that his company’s vehicles are among the safest in the industry.

  204. Calli:

    She “mis-spoke”.
    Why not try that? It’s worked before.

    Of course, Calli. I mean, hasn’t everybody accidentally said something like “Shut the hell up, Bitch” but actually meant to say “Good morning, darling?”
    Look, accidents happen.

  205. C.L.

    For instance, there was Texas research that came out a few years ago showing just how deleterious it is for kids to be raised in single-sex relationships that are posing as a family. Now, our intuition would tell us that, but it’s also good to see it as research. It sent the left batshit crazy.

    Indeed. But the psychology ‘profession’ leaped into action to scotch and bury that research.

  206. OneWorldGovernment

    egg_
    #2723959, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    Valerie Jarrett responds to Rosanne Barr and blames …

    … you guessed it.

    Ape vs Orangutan

    Trump should appoint that gun runner ‘ape’ to check out the IRS.

    https://barackobama.com/

  207. DrBeauGan

    Senile Old Guy
    #2723942, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:14 pm
    You appear to agree with me, SOG. Your arguments do indeed show, those that aren’t based on solid ignorance, that psychology has a long, long way to go before it can be called a hard science.

    Dr BG has read one first year textbook and is now an expert on psychology.

    I’ve had to check out quite a lot of psychology SOG in connection with my own work. It was very disappointing.

    JC, I agree that the work on IQ tests is relatively solid. But it’s largely empirical stuff, with poor understanding of what it is that is being measured or how to design IQ tests. They work reasonably well for IQs less than 130, but tend to go haywire for higher levels except in the case of children. Probably because 130 is about the IQ of the psychologists who construct them.

    Spearman did some correlations to argue that Intelligence actually exists. He never got around to saying anything much about what it is.

    My knowledge of your understanding of science is based on the things you have said about it over the years. You are distinctly more impressive on macroeconomics and finance.

  208. dopey

    mOnty hitting from the yellow markers. Not a member of the club. No wonder, going by the standard of dress.

  209. Leigh Lowe

    I ignore stuff like this, because I recognise when someone wants to get up on their hind legs and wave their (less than significant) willy in the air.

    I see you’ve done the module on the psychology of exhibitionists.

  210. OneWorldGovernment

    What’s the name of that gun runner ‘ape’ that used USA Government planes to fly him and his family to the Kentucky Derby.

    Cannot remember!

  211. Leigh Lowe

    mOnty hitting from the yellow markers. Not a member of the club. No wonder, going by the standard of dress.

    As a transitioning lesbian why don’t you just identify as a sheila and hit off the pink markers Monty?

  212. Senile Old Guy

    My knowledge of your understanding of science is based on the things you have said about it over the years. You are distinctly more impressive on macroeconomics and finance.

    In this case, “more impressive” means “agrees with what I think”.

  213. OneWorldGovernment

    sorry.

    I shouldn’t have said ‘ape’.

    I should have said arsehole.

  214. OneWorldGovernment

    sorry.

    I shouldn’t have said ‘ape’.

    I should have said arzehole.

  215. nemkat

    The Anglican Church of Tasmania has earmarked 108 properties for sale, to help fund $8.6 million in redress for survivors of child s3xual abuse.

    $8.6mil. + 108 = $80,000 average per property.
    Is there going to be a bidding process, or has the Anglican Church already found buyers.
    $80 grand for property sounds like the deal of a lifetime.

  216. I’m not sure if it’s wrong to say this, so I may require some adult supervision.

    CL;
    People should still have the right to bare arms.

    Not all people.

    Imagine you’re on the gravy stroke, you look down and see this naked, and grinning manically.
    What on earth could you do?

  217. DrBeauGan

    Love your work.

    Have a cigar.

    Good idea, OWG. I will.

  218. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2723958, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    Valerie Jarrett responds to Rosanne Barr and blames …

    … you guessed it.

    From the link:-

    “I think we have to turn it into a teaching moment,” Jarrett said.

    Is there a more condescending piece of shit management speak than referring to something as a “teaching moments” or a “teachable moment”?

  219. DrBeauGan

    Senile Old Guy
    #2723977, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    My knowledge of your understanding of science is based on the things you have said about it over the years. You are distinctly more impressive on macroeconomics and finance.

    In this case, “more impressive” means “agrees with what I think”.

    No, it means that on those subjects JC knows a lot more than I do. On science he knows a lot less. I’ve spent more time on it than he has, I’m fairly sure.

  220. egg_

    Is there a more condescending piece of shit management speak than referring to something as a “teaching moments” or a “teachable moment”?

    Not IME.

  221. John Constantine

    The push to increase rates on farmland is irresistible.

    Raising rates on the top ten percent of the properties by value in a shire and giving free money to householders is a vote winner.

    The return to desolate frontier densities as small owner operators are pushed out and fly in fly out corporate take over is an opportunity for shire Stalinism.

    Replace cocky Tory farmers with refugee dispersal areas, voting the correct way.

    As their Andrew Broad, parliamentary Friend of the United Nations says, the kindergartens and schools of the remote districts can only fill now with refugees.

    Comrades.

  222. Crossie

    When you’ve found your Soviet jokes, see if you can dig up a copy of Moscow Circles. It’s a hoot for all time.

    Found it:

    Russia Dies Laughing: Jokes from Soviet Russia. Compiled and classified by A.N., R.N., and K.S. Edited and introduced by Z. Dolgopolova. Illustrated by JAK. Unwin Paperbacks, London, Boston, Sydney, 1982.

    Here is a sample:

    -Who took the first step towards building communism in Russia – scientists or laymen?
    -Laymen. Scientists would have tried it out first on dogs.

  223. DrBeauGan

    You did say you were doing a statistics unit, Pippa. Does that count as willy-waving, or do you get let off on account of not having a willy? I was curious to know if you had the usual awful training in how to abuse Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing. It’s a useful indicator of the quality of your chosen subject.

  224. Atoms for Peace

    Who knew phoning companies to advise them of your wish to cancel a credit card was so traumatic.
    Wails of anguish and inducements to be had. Almost as much fun as shedding power retailers

  225. Atoms for Peace

    Does Pippa know that the n for Cat studies is quite low when one consolidates the sock puppets?

  226. John Constantine

    Last year Ararat shire tried an ambush fifty percent rate rise on unserviced farmland and we’re pushed back.

    This year the CEO of Stawell shire is going with twenty-five percent rate rise on unserviced farmland, with a further fifteen percent next year.

    Boil the cocky frog slow, not scald all at once.

    Refugee plantations are the only alternative to mass rate rises preach the Big Shire population Ponzi poodles.

  227. Crossie

    Here is another one:

    Carter wrote a letter to Brezhnev in which he warned that if Soviet troops were not withdrawn from Afghanistan, the next Olympiad would also be in Moscow.

  228. Crossie

    How about this one?

    -Hos can you ensure that your refrigerator is always full of food?
    -Plug it into Radio Moscow.

  229. Fat Tony

    Philippa Martyr
    #2723772, posted on May 30, 2018 at 10:02 am
    The brutal Perth winters are a challenge for all but the Eskimo.

    Tell me about it.

    I had to put on long sleeves today.

    T-shirts in Toowoomba today………..

    Long sleeves, no less.

  230. Fat Tony

    The Anglican Church of Tasmania has earmarked 108 properties for sale, to help fund $8.6 million in redress for survivors of child s3xual abuse.

    This would make people think twice about leaving property/money to any of the Churches.

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