If only 10% of what Robinson said was correct then the barbarians have already won

The usual high minded idiocies from Janet Albrechtsen on Don’t call it censorship when Islam critic’s simply in contempt of court. If you want to find out what she said, you can buy the paper. Here are the top comments starting as usual from the top. You could go on for much longer and not find a single person who agrees with her. And the true sign that she is hiding the actual circumstances is that she uses “grooming” in place of the actual term for what went on, which is rape.

You have got it badly wrong on this one Janet. Very disappointed that you have not properly done your research.

1. If you actually listen to the live stream that Tommy Robinson was putting out, he (i.e. Tommy) was arrested for disturbing the peace. It is blindingly obvious from the live streaming video that he was arrested under false pretences.
2. The local mainstream media was reporting that the trial had reached the sentencing phase and had published the names of the accused. They would not have done this if the trial was ongoing as you have falsely claimed. Tommy just read from news clipping from the local media and whenever he referred to the crimes of those involved he always used the term “alleged”.
3. Tommy asked the police officers in front of the court if he was on courthouse property and they confirmed that he was not. Tommy did this to make absolutely sure that he was not in violation of any court directed media restraining order.

You think Tommy is a radical, well that happens when people are unhappy with the governments who rule, not for their people, but for policies from a group of sycophants (UN). The support he is getting just shows the discontent all over the western world where people died in the past to ensure we were free to express different opinions. We are all worried about the legacy we are leaving our children and grandchildren.

He was arrested, charged and sentenced within the space of five hours. It is funny that justice can be so swift when it cares to be.

Tommy was not filming inside the court, he was filming outside the court in a public area. Where was the media blackout during for instance the Rolf Harris trial? Did the daily media frenzy cause a mistrial?

Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner and should be released today!

A group of six or seven police officers arrested Robinson with minutes. Where were all these police officers when it came to arresting the grooming and rape gangs? Girls were begging for help from the police for years and they did nothing for years. But when Robinson opens his mouth it only takes minutes for them to act.

I thought the trial was before a judge not a jury? How would Robinson prejudice a trial if there is no Jury to influence?

Yeah, nah. Filming from outside court is contempt? What is the world coming to? Over-reach from the judge. Over-reach from the police.

The police have harassed his wife, children, mother and other members of his family to put pressure on him. If this is justice, we are all in big trouble!!!!

Janet listen to Paul Weston’s take on YouTube regarding Tommys arrest and you might think differently. Tommy Robinson is a hero but also an embarrassment to the establishment because he has been calling out the rape gangs for years and the police and the politicians would do nothing about it until recently. Theresa May has issued a ban on reporting anything to do with Tommy’s arrest and there are many who now claim that Britain is now a fully fledged totalitarian state.

“Searching for truth must be our mission in a liberal democracy”. Sure. And also: We must establish impregnable frontiers to protect our liberal democracy. We now encourage inflow of peoples whose cultures of origin contain no notion of empirical truth. In fact, such pursuit is forbidden for those few denizens of such cultures are capable of it. And our school and university systems have restricted the development of empirical capabilities. This imperative, of maintaining strong boundaries to safeguard our liberal democracy has been badly neglected in recent decades. Terrifyingly, the stamping out of the pursuit of empirical truth is a favorite method, and core aim, of our domestic Left.

I’m with Tommy. You are wrong on this one Janet

It’s pity that UK law is not applied with equal enthusiasm to all who transgress the UK’s laws. For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s AHA Foundation sent a newsletter of 26 May, 2018 stating inter alia: “Despite having legislation in place since 1985, the United Kingdom has failed to prosecute any perpetrators of FGM. Even though mandatory reporting through the NHS has recorded 5,391 new incidents of FGM in 2016-17. A number of UK FGM cases have been brought to court, including two sets of parents earlier this year who had their daughters mutilated, yet they have all failed to land a conviction. The UK Commons Home Affairs Select Committee said the lack of convictions for FGM was a “national scandal”. One explanation is a lack of appetite among police to enforce the law.” [Emphasis added]

Robinson is a British man fighting against the Islamic takeover of Britain. That is all that matters.

Regardless of any prejudicial risk to a trial there is an inherent suspicion in UK that publicity about these crimes, which have occurred in several cities, is intended to be deliberately kept from the public on account of an expectation of personal and public racism. The failure to investigate and prosecute other similar crimes has fed into this and many people feel that the perception of racism has become the overwhelming aspect of policing, which surely cannot be right?

The reason for the emergence of Tommy Robinson is the same reason for the emergence of Donald Trump. In both cases the citizens had been let down by a self serving political class.

I watched a Tommy Robinson speech on You Tube yesterday, having never heard of him before. I appreciate that I only heard his side of the story, but if only 10% of what he said was correct then the barbarians have already won.

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51 Responses to If only 10% of what Robinson said was correct then the barbarians have already won

  1. Europe is screwed. We can only hope that the full enormity of what is inevitably going to happen there happens quickly, so that we will realise not to follow the same path before it’s too late.

  2. Roger

    First they came for Tommy Robinson, and I didn’t speak up because I thought he was a bit of a ratbag…

    Well, we know how it ends.

  3. Why does anyone still read, let alone, buy the Australian? Stop encouraging this rubbish.

  4. duncanm

    where did I read that the real impetus behind shutting up TR was who was in court that day? There are rumours there was more than just one individual within Leeds council involved.. and it implies the guilt rises further up the chain in government and police.

  5. duncanm

    for example – Arshid Hussain is related to the labour deputy leader at the time. He was also Vice Chairman of the local police and crime panel, which scrutinises policing in Leeds.

  6. Egor

    Critical mass of muslims is therefore already exceeded in the UK.
    The dhimmification of the UK institutions must be acceptable to and pre planned by the elites.
    It’s truly all over.

  7. struth

    The mussies are easily beaten..

    It’s their enablers who are our enemies.

    There wouldn’t be one Muslim allowed into Britain if they held the beliefs of TR or a young white girl from Canada.
    Know who your enemy is.
    Western hating leftists and their marxist march through Western institutions.

  8. A Lurker

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.”
    – quote attributed to Voltaire.

  9. Pyrmonter

    – the fascist’s assumed name is Robinson, not Robertson (he’s actually Yaxley-Lennon)

    – he’s spouting stuff that could abort trials. For the sake of both the victims and for the proper administration of law, that has to be prevented.

    – his schtick is to promote the new form of anti-semitism, rancid ethnic islam-baiting. For my sins, I think he should be allowed to, but that doesn’t make him some sort of hero; rather he’s a mean, bigoted, entitled little socialist runt.

    For some accurate reporting on what has actually happened (contra the material put about by his much better skilled fellow-traveller in the islam-baiting game), try:

    https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/

  10. As I alluded in my first post, it’s not what happened to Tommy Robinson itself that’s of concern, it’s what’s happening in the UK and all over Europe that’s of concern.

    People are being sought out for so-called hate-crimes (or thought-crimes) with more fervour than actual criminals. Rape and molestation is being downplayed and under-reported by authorities so as not to cause more hate-crimes or for racist taunts to arise. Assault and murder is being downplayed by authorities so as to not cause more hate-crimes or for racist taunts to arise. And so it goes.

    There’s a very common thread amongst all of this and governments are downplaying all of it.

  11. Viva

    There is a smell around this arrest and when you consider the larger context. Too bad the ever rational Janet cannot seem to detect it.

  12. struth

    You should read up a bit more before you believe a lefty lawyer

    Tommy’s a facist, and a socialist now too.
    By calling out Islam’s evil he is the new antisemite.

    FMD.

    TDS.
    Tommy Derangement Syndrome.

  13. Jannie

    dover_beach
    #2723995, posted on May 30, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    Why does anyone still read, let alone, buy the Australian? Stop encouraging this rubbish

    I cancelled my sub to The Australian years ago because I not prepared to pay for the rubbish. But I don’t mind reading it for free, because its good to know what they are saying, as in know your enemy. Links to the Australian are frustrating because the article seems to expect you can get through the paywall.

    As for Albrechtson’s and the Secret Barrister’s contempt for the pro Robinson protestors, because he arguably was technically in breach of the suppression orders, the case was hardly argued – it was more of a fatwa or a Secret Police trial from the Communist or Fascist dictatorships.

    Whether he was technically in breach or not misses the point that the laws against free speech, and pandering to Muslim dictates have undermined British democracy to the point that it now resembles an authoritarian dictatorship. If the law is wrong the people will not respect it. And whatever happens in Britain usually happens in Australia, sooner or later.

  14. Tim Neilson

    Pyrmonter
    #2724045, posted on May 30, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    Most of that is fair comment, but “Secretbarrister” fails to address properly some important aspects:

    (a) Apparently HHJ Marson took less than 4 minutes to try, convict and sentence Robinson;

    (b) Then Marson, evidently the Roger Bannister of judicial proceedings, saw fit to impose a reporting ban on the very fact of Robinson’s conviction and imprisonment.

    It is difficult to believe that submissions and considerations leading to an immediate 10 month jail sentence (on top of the 3 months suspended sentence that was activated) could be done diligently in under 4 minutes.

    And even if it could be, what happened to the Sussex Justices principle that “justice must not only be done, it must be manifestly and undoubtedly seen to be done”?
    If there actually was an order in place suppressing comment on the trial itself, which Robinson is alleged to have breached (even though he apparently consulted with police on the scene to try to ensure that he breached no laws), why was any further order needed to prevent a miscarriage of justice in the trial? Why not just enforce the existing order if anyone tried to use the Robinson arrest in a way that involved potentially prejudicial comment on the trial?
    How could it prejudice the trial for news to be published that Robinson had been convicted and imprisoned?

    The authorities are now left with egg all over their faces. They’ve failed to suppress the news of Robinson’s imprisonment and have made themselves look like totalitarian thugs attempting secret incarceration. They have no real answer as to why they attempted to impose blanket secrecy on the incarceration of a British citizen after a sub-4 minute trial.

    Yes, it’s certainly not a straightforward case of Robinson the saintly political prisoner, but there’s enough neo-fascism in the response to create justifiable concern.

  15. Peter S

    Steve,
    I normally like your commentary. But in this instance I think you should go back and re-read what Janet wrote.

  16. Tim Neilson

    bemused
    #2724072, posted on May 30, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Correct.

    Jannie
    #2724092, posted on May 30, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    Correct. There’s a fallacy called “legalism” which was used to justify various events in Germany in the 1930’s. The fallacy consists of believing that if there’s a valid rule, then anything done in conformity with the valid rule must be ok, and any breach of the rule must be wrong.
    Obviously we’d all agree that if someone breaches a law of the land, then they must face the consequences, and we don’t accept “protesters” awarding themselves exalted “above the law” status.
    But that doesn’t mean that we have to accept that the existing laws are good – far less the blatantly discriminatory way in which the “grooming” gangs are mollycoddled for years but Robinson gets imprisoned on the spot (even though it seems he had actually tried to avoid breaking the law).

  17. manalive

    Why does anyone still read, let alone, buy the Australian? Stop encouraging this rubbish …

    For the same reason I read a variety of sources like this blog viz. to get a range of opinions to be able to make a rational assessment, if possible.
    Thanks to Pyrmonter for the link.

  18. DB

    The thought police are at work on the comments too.
    I have tried to post several times a simple observation that while Muslims only account for 5% of the UK’s population, they account for 84% of child sex offenders since 2006.

  19. Leo G

    Pyrmonter posted on May 30, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    For some accurate reporting on what has actually happened (contra the material put about by his much better skilled fellow-traveller in the islam-baiting game) try The Secret Barrister Blog.

    Hardly accurate reporting.
    The Secret Barrister is a well-published advocate for court officials. He describes commenters on blog threads like this who express any sympathy for Robinson (the family name he uses) as “knuckle-dragging cheerleaders, not least his racists-in-arms across the pond”.
    Robinson was apparently convicted of a criminal contempt in relation to a Crown Court, where the judge’s power to commit summarily for contempt should only be exercised where the contempt is clear, urgent and there is an imperative to act immediately. It appears there was a pre-arranged plan to arrest him on separate charges and to apply a separate contempt of court restriction order on the proceedings against him.

  20. It’s now very clear that the British “justice” system is in full collaboration with the Islamists, just like the Vichy French were with the Third Reich.

  21. lotocoti

    Hardly accurate reporting.

    We shall defer to your superior understanding of UK law.

  22. A Lurker

    LeedsLive has defended its decision to publish details of Tommy Robinson’s address in a biased report on the activist and journalists jail sentence.
    The details have potentially put his wife and children in grave danger.
    Publisher Matt Millington said: “At 1pm today LeedsLive published details of the sentencing of [Tommy Robinson] which took place on Friday, May 25 at Leeds Crown Court.”
    He added: “Under British media law, the full name, age and address of a defendant is included in a court report for identification purposes.”
    “It is our duty to provide accurate reports of court proceedings, and the publication of [Tommy Robinsons] address is part of that duty.”
    If Leeds Live were so concerned about accuracy, they would have reported the events on Friday, and not have listened to the Establishment by covering up the story.
    The website owned by Trinity Mirror fought the media ban in court today.
    It was lifted by Judge Marsen who jailed Tommy Robinson in secrecy and tried to BAN the press from reporting it.

    So what happens if TR’s wife and family come to harm because of the actions of LeedsLive and Judge Marsen? Could their actions be construed as incitement to cause violence? Or as an accessory to murder or assault?

    “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” – attributed to King Henry II.
    Soon after, Thomas Beckett was murdered by four knights in Canterbury Cathedral.

  23. Viva

    Note to Janet and others of her ilk:

    Robinson was arrested while livestreaming outside Leeds Crown Court on the charge of breaching the peace. The trial was coming to a conclusion and the jury had already found the defendants guilty; thus he was not threatening to cause a mistrial. Yet he was fast-tracked onto a concocted charge of disturbing the peace and finds himself back in jail for allegedly breaching the terms of his jail release.

    1. no defense was allowed
    3. he was reporting on a subject of particular interest to the British public; one that was being under-reported by the MSM.
    4. had the defendants been white, the case would have been covered by most of the press (e.g. Rolf Harris)
    5. he was supposedly on probation with the threat of 3 months jail time should he cross the line again, so why 13 months?

  24. Pauly

    For me the really disturbing allegation is made half way down this article https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-26/tommy-robinson-arrested-outside-uk-court-jailed-13-months-judge-orders-orwellian
    It shows the judge and the police tagorher looking down from a window. Allegedly this was just prior to the arrest of TR. Now if true, it shows the judge, police and ipso facto the prosecution working together to cause the arrest, prosecution and incaceration of a citizen.

  25. Viva

    PS In summary: They got him on a technicality and then threw the book at him decourager les autres.

  26. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Secret Barrister was in full agreement that Alfie Evans had to die last month.

    The British elite are scum.

  27. P

    Jannie #2724092, posted on May 30, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    Whether he was technically in breach or not misses the point that the laws against free speech, and pandering to Muslim dictates have undermined British democracy to the point that it now resembles an authoritarian dictatorship. If the law is wrong the people will not respect it. And whatever happens in Britain usually happens in Australia, sooner or later.

    The Truth

    And here is more

  28. Pyrmonter

    @ Tim N

    (a) Any interference with a trial is contempt – whether there is a non-publication order or not. That’s ‘Contempt 101’. And it isn’t ‘over’ until the verdict is entered: the video he shot showed people whom he identified as carrying ‘prison bags’ before verdicts had been pronounced: it was quite possible that those people were to be found not guilty; and that his ‘commentary’ could influence a juror.

    (b) the version that said ‘he had the police’s permission’ (which I’ve also seen as ‘he had the permission of court staff’ – apparently at another court) misunderstands the role of the police: they are not law makers.

    (c) you contend the ‘authorities’ have egg on their faces. Faced with a man with a poor criminal history (past convictions for violence, for fraud, and for contempt, the suspended sentence for which has contributed to his current term of imprisonment), what else would you have them do? Grant him dispensation on the basis he’s a white fascist?

  29. Pyrmonter

    @ Viva

    If you can’t see the parallels between the anti-islamic sentiments fostered by ‘Robinson’ and his fascist ilk to the anti-semitism of a century ago, go and read Zola.

  30. Leo G

    They got him on a technicality and then threw the book at him decourager les autres.

    I find it curious that Robinson faced civil contempt charges in a Criminal Court without having been clearly in breach of the UK’s “strict liability rule” (which btw loses effect upon sentencing), and that though the court acted on its own initiative, presumably prepared a statement and arranged service on Robinson, it did not provide at least 14 days notice for a hearing as required by Criminal Procedure Rules [48.9(4)].
    I expect this will be clarified at some stage.

  31. lotocoti

    had the defendants been white, the case would have been covered by most of the press (e.g. Rolf Harris)

    There are Public Figure exemptions in court reporting.
    People can also make applications to the court to ease restrictions.
    Just because no one either made a successful application, or was prepared to go to the time and expense to make one, doesn’t mean there’s some conspiracy beyond those inexcusable actions which allowed the grooming gangs to flourish.

  32. Tim Neilson

    Pyrmonter
    #2724243, posted on May 30, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    (a) is irrelevant to anything I actually wrote.
    (b) I’m sorry if what I said wasn’t clear on this point. I didn’t mean that the police have any authority to give him dispensation. However, if it is true (and I haven’t seen any denial of it) that he had asked the police at the scene for advice as to what he could or couldn’t do, that would go very much against any argument that it was necessary to emulate the Stasi in order to prevent whatever it was that was sought to be prevented by instantaneous trial conviction imprisonment and suppression order against revealing the imprisonment.
    (c ) Read my post. I wouldn’t have placed a suppression order against reporting of his imprisonment. No-one has satisfactorily explained why that was in any way necessary to prevent prejudice of the trial in question or of any linked trial.
    Nor would I have placed a blanket ban on reporting of the circumstances in which he came to be imprisoned. Again, no-one has satisfactorily explained why that was in any way necessary to prevent prejudice of the trial in question or of any linked trial.

  33. Viva

    If you can’t see the parallels between the anti-islamic sentiments fostered by ‘Robinson’ and his fascist ilk to the anti-semitism of a century ago, go and read Zola.

    The anti semitism of a century ago was yet another iteration of an ancient hatred built on religious prejudice, ignorance, slander and lies. It continues to this day under many new guises.

    Tommy Robinson speaks out against barbarisms actually experienced by his community. Yes his speech is a blunt weapon but it has cut through and that is the only weapon working class Britons have in their own defense. Indeed it is the only weapon anyone in Britain has in the face of a grossly mismanaged immigration system. The only fascism I see are the cultural dietitians who keep wanting to shut him up.

  34. Egor

    The Koran and Haddiths instruct muslims to murder infidels, apostates, J*ws, homosexuals and difficult women. No ambiguity at all. And they do.
    Why would a Western nation with infidels, apostates, J*ws, homosexuals and difficult women allow anyone who professes belief in the Koran to enter the country….let alone immigrate?
    We didn’t get a choice, that would explain it, because as every cultural marxist knows a referendum on muslim immigration to Australia will reject it overwhelmingly.
    That’s why we don’t get to choose.

  35. Roger

    If you can’t see the parallels between the anti-islamic sentiments fostered by ‘Robinson’ and his fascist ilk to the anti-semitism of a century ago, go and read Zola.

    I’m sure you’re a well read and intelligent person, Pyrmonter, but on this matter you seem be struck with the same blindness which led contemporary Germans to welcome hundreds of thousands of rabid anti-Semites into their midst in a bid to atone for their grandparents’ anti-Semitism.

  36. nemkat

    The real issue is abuse of children in State run Care Homes.
    There’s been reluctance to prosecute these Crimes, and now prosecutions are up and running, this maggot is doing everything he possibly can to get the Trials shut down.

    He’s an obvious Agent Provocateur, and he needs to be locked up.

  37. Tel

    Pyrmonter, could you just provide a few links to where Robinson has been doing some, “rancid ethnic islam-baiting”?

  38. Leo G

    … this maggot is doing everything he possibly can to get the Trials shut down.

    The trial, in this instance, was already over. The court procedings on the day Robinson was arrested involved sentencing.

  39. Revolutions don’t come about because of broken laws, guys. They come about because the people aren’t getting a fair shake, their needs aren’t being addressed, and they have no say in the destiny of their culture. The whole Islamic invasion episode has been annoying, frustrating and enraging the unrepresented classes in Great Britain, Canada, and Australia for over a decade.
    We didn’t have this violence in our streets twenty years ago, nor were our daughters in as much danger. Your daughters aren’t at risk, and you have Police, Army and whoever with weapons to make sure you are never bothered by the house invasions, mass murder of innocent people that the general populace have to deal with day after day.
    And we have the picture of an arrogant Magistrate and police chief looking down and watching their servants arrest Tommy. Are you so thick, sitting in your towers high above the common man, breathing in the scented and air conditioned breezes that we pay extortionate taxes for, that you are unable to see the gathering storm clouds?
    Western society is cracking down the middle and the Elites think they are on the safe side of the bollards, barriers, and armour.
    So did the future passengers of the tumbrills.
    This may sound like hyperbole to to some of you, but the sides are being drawn up, people are getting righteously angry, and the West is perched on the edge of the pre revolutionary phase of history.
    Are those of you that are so engrossed in the fine detail of Law too engrossed to notice the tumbrills are having fresh layers of manure applied?
    We have had enough of being ruled – we demand to be represented!

  40. nemkat

    The trial, in this instance, was already over. The court procedings on the day Robinson was arrested involved sentencing.

    No, it didn’t. Read Pyrmonter’s link.
    The verdicts were being handed down that day.

  41. W Hogg

    Based on video evidence, can we arrest and jail every reporter outside the Pell666 hearings? That should encourage the meeja to think through the issues fully.

  42. nemkat

    Winston Smith
    #2724414
    Revolutions don’t come about because of broken laws, guys.

    Wake up to yourself, you clown.

  43. Pyrmonter

    @ W Hogg – google ‘superinjunction Australia 2018’

  44. lotocoti

    Secret Barrister was in full agreement that Alfie Evans …

    Someday you might want to put yourself some knowledge.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Someday you might want to put yourself some knowledge.

    What? That the British justice system would rather children died than the NHS be shamed?

    That the British justice system has knowingly allowed thousands of girls to be raped without lifting a finger but acts swiftly when once again someone attempts to embarrass it?

  46. lotocoti

    That the British justice system would rather children died than the NHS be shamed?

    Fine.
    Don’t bother reading, stick with feelz. It’s the woke thing to do.

  47. Jannie

    Thanks P. The Truth is too horrible to look at. So they arrest it.

    BTW Pyrmonter

    What Jury?

  48. Pyrmonter

    @ Jannie

    I expect we’ll find out when the deferred publication orders expire, later this year. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/29/edl-founder-jailed-contempt-court-broadcasting-tirade-facebook/

  49. Leo G

    nemkat posted on May 30, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    The trial, in this instance, was already over. The court procedings on the day Robinson was arrested involved sentencing.

    No, it didn’t. Read Pyrmonter’s link.
    The verdicts were being handed down that day.

    nemkat should read Pyrmonter’s link again , but more carefully.
    The details to which the Secret Barrister referred occurred last year, that is, in May 2117. It referred to the circumstances of Robinson’s earlier contempt charge. He was careful to give no details about the stage the more recent criminal proceedings had reached.
    He stated that he had no no knowledge himself of the day’s court proceedings- which appears to refer to both the criminal case and the contempt hearing.

  50. Jannie

    Thanks for the link Pyrmonter. Nevertheless all the secret stuff is not encouraging, and makes me wonder why they are hiding it and who they are protecting. The “establishment” does not merit automatic trust, and never has.

  51. classical_hero

    The British government has made Robinson a martyr. This has raised the profile of the crimes. They tried to suppress the truth but all they did was highlight the problem

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