Australia geoblocked

Thank you Scott Morrison!

As many Amazon customers have been notified and the SMH is now reporting:

Australians will be blocked from shopping on Amazon’s international websites and restricted to using its smaller local platform so the e-commerce giant complies with new GST rules on online purchases.

Amazon said on Thursday that Amazon.com, its American website, and other overseas sites would no longer ship to Australian addresses from July 1.

Australian shoppers will still be able to access 60 million products available on Amazon.com.au, including many from international third-party sellers.

However, the number of products available to Australians will be only a fraction of the estimated 500 million available on Amazon.com.

Amazon’s decision to not even ship products to Australia regardless of where they are purchased will scupper any plans tech-savvy shoppers might have to use geo-blocking software to get around the ban.

This must be something of a surprise to Morrison and his advisors because I’m quite certain nobody ever saw this coming … oh, wait.

Prof. Davidson: … A lot of these online marketplaces are simply not geared up to do this. For a lot of them it is going to be a lot easier to geoblock Australians than it is to actually comply.

To be fair, it’s not just Morrison looking like an idiot today, the Productivity Commission also ruled that the ‘Amazon tax’ was a good idea. Mind you, given that the government is presiding over an alarming decline in reading standards it probably won’t matter for too much longer that we are isolated from the world’s biggest bookstore.

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125 Responses to Australia geoblocked

  1. Jannie

    But the Government wants it blocked don’t they? So that money will be spent on some taxable product. It is not as if they actually care about consumers, but they do care about taxes.

  2. Ubique

    One more step on the road to Venezuela.

  3. cynical1

    If Ebay follow suit, Hardly Normal and Scotty boy may be sleeping with da fishes.

  4. Rococo Liberal

    How was the government ever supposed to enforce the liability to GST on foreigners living abroad?

  5. DaveR

    Australia takes another step on its road to the reintroduction of economic isolationsism, promoted by a mindless poltical class who now believe their own narrative, all aimed at short term political gain.

    Can anyone tell me why, in June 2018, there is any rational justification for the continuance of the Luxury Car Tax at 33%? What is it protecting?

  6. There already exists forwarding postal addresses in the US.
    You give Amazon their address, they forward to you.

    Makes me wonder if ScoMo has a share in the business.

  7. Slim Cognito

    Sounds like a business opportunity for US based delivery agents. There are already businesses based in the USA who let you use their address for delivery of items ordered online and then ship it on to you for a fee.

    The market will adapt.

    It won’t stop the GST collection issue.

  8. Atoms for Peace

    This government shot its’ feet off years ago. They’re now up to knee capping themselves..

  9. Garry

    Take away access to eBay especially at your peril. Many overseas sites we currently deal with will stop shipping to Australia rather than become tax collectors for the government. Another example of the government working against rather than for the electorate! Gerry and his mates might be happy but the rest of us won’t be and it is coming up to an election sometime soon. Things like this can make a big difference whenever electorate is already spooked!

  10. v_maet

    Jannie @ 1:28pm

    Interesting theory.
    I heard the extra GST revenue from the change in tax policy would actually cost more to recover than it would make so you could be onto something.

  11. cynical1

    GST currently applies only to items bought from overseas retailers worth more than $1000. This so-called “Amazon tax” was brought in after heavy lobbying by local retailers – which have to apply GST to all sales, whether online or in store – to “even the playing field” with international online rivals.

    I would have thought international postage costs may have made them competitive.

    But no, red tape and the cost of doing business here has fucked Australia again.

  12. Neil

    I am not really blaming ScoMo on this. The lefties wanted something done and he caved in due to political pressure. Looks like the righties like Gerry Harvey wanted something done as well.

    ScoMo is a human being and he gave in to political pressure

    Shows U how great Howard was. Most of what he did was what he believed

  13. I must admit that I’ve never been a big fan of Amazon, every time I’ve considered buying something, you have to wade through crap to see who will actually ship to Australia. And their Australian store is just full of crap, at least for what interests me.

    On the other hand, if they kill eBay because of this, I think there’s going to be a lot of feedback to the government by consumers, feedback that the government won’t want to hear. And they’ll most certainly hear about it at election time.

    Hardly Normal may feel a backlash that will make him wish he’d kept his trap shut.

  14. Rococo Liberal

    It seems a lot of people don’t understand what is happening here.
    The government has put pressure on Amazon, because it has a presence here. Amazon has responded by saying it won’t pay GST from its foreign sites. But Amazon AU will of course make a huge profit here in OZ, because it can jack up its prices. SO it doesn’t really mind. I’m assuming that they have loked at the figures and realised that can get as much turnover and profit by selling solely through their Oz outlet to Oz customers as they can selling through their Oz and other outlets.
    But if I buy something from another US site with no Australian presence, no GST applies, unless the US site is stupid enough to register for GST. And why would they do so? The government is not going to stop them exporting to OZ if they don’t.
    The secret then is to find other suppliers overseas who sell the same stuff as Amazon.

  15. Shy Ted

    Better get in quick. Still under a grand. It’ll be over a grand after the tax.

  16. woolfe

    So i just ship to my us address and have it onshipped to here. How do they collect GST on this?

  17. H B Bear

    This is not Potential Greatness. This is not innovative. Where is Jobson Growth when you need him?

  18. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    ScoMo’s most punchable quality is that he is not only willfully and invincibly ignorant, he is arrogant in his ignorance.

    A turd of a man.

  19. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I might add that those coveting protection, this is what it leads to.

    Less choice, higher prices and ill gotten gains for corporate spivs and crony capitalists like Gerry Harvey.

  20. H B Bear

    Time for a BDS campaign on Gerry Harvey. Doris Bagshawe will have some time on her hands soon, who better to lead it off.

  21. Tom

    Liberal Party of Australia government (2013-?) — the biggest-taxing government in Australian history (see page 32).

  22. KaaBee

    I’m so glad I got the timing right with my $2 post free purchase from an e-bay listed Hong Kong reseller. I expect delivery within two weeks so I will beat the GST impost. I wonder what it would cost the government to collect a 20c tax?

  23. Neil

    A turd of a man

    he gave in to political pressure like you would have done in the same situation. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done

  24. Percy Popinjay

    I wonder how many subscribers netflix lost when those gliberal dunderheads slapped a special tax on the former’s subscriptions? I couldn’t cancel mine quickly enough.

  25. Dr Faustus

    The secret then is to find other suppliers overseas who sell the same stuff as Amazon.

    Basically correct.
    But there are two potential problems:

    1) Many small US online retailers outside of the Amazon Store appear to ship internationally through Amazon Global;

    2) Some larger US online sellers stopped shipping to Australian addresses shortly after Morrison announced the new GST provisions. I inquired with one firm that I had done business with for several years, only to be told that their (US) accountant had warned them that the Australian Government was looking to crack down on ‘tax evasion’ – at which point the easy/safe route for them was to geoblock Australia.

    My solution is to use a freight forwarder. I have used ComGateway and MyUS sucessfully: both give you a US shipping address and allow you to calculate the shipping charge in advance. If your seller requires you to use a US credit card (and you don’t have one) they both offer a shopping service – although I believe this would add about 10% to the cost of the purchase.

  26. Percy Popinjay

    I wonder what it would cost the government to collect a 20c tax?

    At least $20.

  27. duncanm

    Before Amazon, shipping from the US was always a pain… hence the popularity of re-shippers that many have used in the past.

    We’ll just start to use them again, or go elsewhere for our product.

    Gerry Harvey and Scomo can go fuck themselves.

  28. mareeS

    Book Depository ships free to Oz, haven’t heard anything from them about changes after July 1. Haven’t bought books from Amazon in years because of postage costs.

  29. C.L.

    Here is what communist asshole Scott Morrison says:

    “This new law levels the playing field for Australian businesses, by forcing foreign businesses to pay GST,” Mr Morrison said in a statement. “The government doesn’t apologise for ensuring multinationals pay a fair amount of tax here in Australia. That tax revenue is used to fund essential services.”

  30. Dr Faustus

    I wonder what it would cost the government to collect a 20c tax?

    When Sloppy Joe Hockey introduced the idea, Treasury modelling suggested the cost of administration would vastly outweigh revenue raised. At the time there were projections of $500m raised in GST offset by $2000m spent by the ATO in compliance – although there will surely now be a Treasury estimate that says it will raise net $squillions and increase national employment by 600%.

  31. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    he gave in to political pressure like you would have done in the same situation. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done

    You should be forewarned.

    If I ever enter Parliament it will be with a highly trained team of mercenaries to slaughter every person in the place.

    I will then restore a righteous and order to this land. The next day I will step down.

  32. cynical1

    But if I buy something from another US site with no Australian presence, no GST applies, unless the US site is stupid enough to register for GST. And why would they do so? The government is not going to stop them exporting to OZ if they don’t.
    The secret then is to find other suppliers overseas who sell the same stuff as Amazon.

    Doubt it.

    You will probably have to pay the GST when it arrives in customs.

  33. You will probably have to pay the GST when it arrives in customs.

    Correct.
    Already factored into the high freight costs of Fedex and DHL for shipments to AU.

    Admin nightmare for them means that you pay.

  34. Dr Faustus

    “This new law levels the playing field for Australian businesses, by forcing foreign businesses to pay GST,” Mr Morrison said in a statement. “The government doesn’t apologise for ensuring multinationals pay a fair amount of tax here in Australia. That tax revenue is used to fund essential services.”

    Morrison seamlessly slips into Shortenspeak:

    It actually forces Australian consumers to pay GST. Amazon will just be collecting the dosh to remit to the ATO – no frightful foreign multinational will be paying a brass razoo.

    I make no apology” – the ALP’s favourite intro as it plunges a hand in the nation’s pocket…

  35. Y

    This certainly lends credence to the view that the Liberal party must be totally destroyed.

    Make the rubble bounce.

  36. LGS

    I wonder how this will affect Book Depository (which I believe, incidentally, is owned by Amazon), and has no physical or online presence in Australia, but ships for free to here at this time?
    Hopefully not at all.

  37. LGS

    One thing is certain, this new law will cost a lot more to enforce than income or taxes it takes in!

  38. One thing is certain, this new law will cost a lot more to enforce than income or taxes it takes in!

    The solution?

    Raise taxes!

  39. rickw

    AUSTRALIA IS A COMMUNIST SHITHOLE.

  40. H B Bear

    ScoMo has outdone Wayne Goosesteen. A new tax that raises no revenue AND prevents hundreds of thousands of consumers from buying stuff they want.

    The death of the so called Lieboral Party cannot happen fast enough.

  41. a happy little debunker

    You can be damned sure citizens in the US pay the appropriate sales taxes on their Amazon purchases.

    There are 45 different rates in that country alone.

    Handling one easy peasy 10% GST is certainly within Amazon’s ability to remit.

    This geo-blocking is not about tax, but about increased profit.

  42. egg_

    The ‘@rse end of the world’ is blocked?

  43. Somebody may have already said this, but …

    There already exists forwarding postal addresses in the US.
    You give Amazon their address, they forward to you.

    Makes me wonder if ScoMo has a share in the business.

    As a periodic user of forwarding services, they already deal with these things. Eg Singapore has a GST threshold of $300 and other countries have similar. None that Spartacus is aware of though have NIL.

    Your package will most likely be caught in customs. But if it isn’t, don’t fret. The Department of Homeland Affairs has already proposed an increased budget to check increased numbers of packages.

    Have no doubt that the total cost of collection will be at least 10x the amount of tax collected.

    And as for returns, don’t look for who has shares in freight forwarding businesses. Look for where LNP politicians end up working after the next election. Ref Bruce Bilson

  44. manalive

    Already there are many items advertised on Amazon that are not shipped to Australia and it is very frustrating and annoying.
    One feels like a Soviet era worker from Magnitogorsk on his sole lifetime trip to Moscow to receive the Order of the Red Banner of Labour medal wandering goggle-eyed through Beryozka — although ordinary Soviet citizens were forbidden to enter.
    Maybe that’s our government’s next step.

  45. LGS

    I just checked for one particular author on Amazon Australia.
    They have only three books by him listed – I have more than that in my collection!
    One of them costs $137 – I am pretty sure that is more than the RRP, and I only paid $55.75 for the same book at Amazon UK less than two years ago!
    At this point in time I could still get another new copy of that book from overseas cheaper than from Amazon Australia.

  46. Egor

    Ah….Scott understands how he can treat his colonial bunny subjects.
    Like they’re somewhere with import / currency controls.
    And the bigger tragedy is: the bunnies will accept it with hardly a murmur.

  47. stackja

    I have bought two Australian books recently from an Australian publisher. Didn’t think to try Amazon.

  48. Diogenes

    Bugger amazon & ebay. If wish and aliexpress geoblock us, there goes Mrs Ds little business

  49. cynical1

    Reasons to be cheerful. Pt3.

    Surprised.

    All those comments and no mention of the biohazard levy.

    I re-checked and no, it wasn’t posted on 1 April.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-22/online-shopping-tax-being-considered-by-government/9574920

  50. Squirrel

    There was a sad inevitability to this – here in Straya, where we still get excited (some of us, apparently) when we’re told that we have the biggest or the best whatever “in the southern hemisphere”, and some of us lap up the b/s about our two biggest cities being “world cities” or “tier 1 cities” or whatever crap the spruikers dream up. The mediocrity and parochialism is utterly dismal.

    This episode is yet another reminder that the half-baked (at the very best) application of competition principles in our economy is a ticking time-bomb. We have so many rigged markets, glorified rackets, shameless rent-seeking, and armies of overpaid people in b/s jobs – it cannot last, and this sort of protectionism is just delaying the inevitable.

  51. stevem

    I have already made my last orders from the US, fully aware this is happening on July 1st. I’ve gone over the $1000 in the past and had the courier company charge a $200 “customs agent fee” on top of the GST and I can foresee chaos with $250 being charged on a $500 item ($200+$50 GST).
    mareeS: Bad news for you – Book Depository was bought by Amazon.

  52. NB

    Australia, behind the electron curtain. The new hermit kingdom.
    Thank you, oh leader, for protecting us from the rest of the world.

  53. duncanm

    a happy little debunker
    #2725113, posted on May 31, 2018 at 4:27 pm

    You can be damned sure citizens in the US pay the appropriate sales taxes on their Amazon purchases.

    There are 45 different rates in that country alone.

    Handling one easy peasy 10% GST is certainly within Amazon’s ability to remit.

    This geo-blocking is not about tax, but about increased profit.

    Unmitigated bullshit.

    US state sales taxes are levied at the point of sale, not the point of receipt. If the business has no physical presence in a state, it is not taxed there.

    Why do you think some states have higher densities of mail-order businesses?

  54. NB

    Neil says at #2725053, posted on May 31, 2018 at 3:15 pm

    ‘he gave in to political pressure like you would have done in the same situation. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done’

    That is why politicians like to refer to themselves as ‘leaders’ I guess.

  55. david hadley

    Will we pay GST on French submarines?

  56. I thought advances in technology was supposed to make life easier, cheaper and more efficient for us.
    I can physically travel overseas, buy a book and bring it back with no Australian GST payable.
    On-Line technology is meant to allow me to do the same without the need to physically travel overseas.
    (same concept as working from home…..NBN anyone?)
    But now ScoMo and the abhorrent Liberals are legislating away this efficiency gain in order to “protect” local businesses.

    If this action is legit, then why not protect other local businesses from imports? Surely the 10% GST isn’t the deal breaker. Imagine the taxes ScoMo can collect if he brought back car manufacturing, steel making, food stuffs etc etc. Profits tax, taxes on wages, taxes on local inputs and logistics support etc.

    This action is madness.

  57. Egor

    Hard to understand what part of Harvey’s business is being trashed by Amazon. 99% of his stuff is too large for posting. Is Gerry’s tantrum about a few mobile phones or something?

  58. V Maet;

    Interesting theory.
    I heard the extra GST revenue from the change in tax policy would actually cost more to recover than it would make so you could be onto something.

    I used to larf at the story of the Californian governor who found a roomful of unused accountants one day.
    He asked them to go through the books and find some cost efficiencies.
    They did so and when discussing the report when it was delivered, the following conversation was believed to have taken place:
    Accountant: We have found, Governor, that the Federal Government gives us the amount of $500 million to deliver this reading program. But with the oversight and other constraints of the program, we find it costs $2.5 Billion to administer.
    Governor: Great Scott! That’s incredible!
    Accountant: Yes it is, Governor. Shall you cancel the program?
    Governor: Heavens no! We really need that $500 Million!

    Now, many of us have heard the Joke and shook our heads. But Canberra has just brought in the Australian version and I cannot even see a smile.

  59. IT;

    I will then restore a righteous and order to this land. The next day I will step down.

    I wouldn’t believe that of you for a minute.
    I know you’d empty the Parliament House Cellars of their contents during the evening.

  60. H B Bear

    Gerry Harvey providing plenty of outraged Kabuki theatre for the 6pm news. He’s outraged.

  61. Senile Old Guy

    ‘he gave in to political pressure like you would have done in the same situation. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done’

    That’s just a shut up and go away argument. Voters are entitled to criticise their government. It is a fundamental part of democracy.

  62. Roger

    To be fair, it’s not just Morrison looking like an idiot today…

    And let’s not forget this was Joe Hockey’s idea, or rather,. Treasury’s, which he adopted eagerly.

    Crikey, even Bernard Keane thinks it’s a bad idea!

  63. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    @chriskkenny

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    Our friends in the media.

  64. calli

    I put this on the OT, but it belongs here.

    It gets worse.

    From 2019, hotels booked using foreign websites will also attract GST. I presume hire cars ditto.

    So you pay the local taxes plus the Ausmuppets skim off another 10%. How a good or service consumed overseas attracts local GST is beyond me.

  65. calli

    @chriskkenny

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    Is this idiot on drugs?

    They are expected to collect an additional 10% and remit it to the ATO.

  66. egg_

    Gerry Harvey providing plenty of outraged Kabuki theatre for the 6pm news. He’s outraged.

    The 78 y.o. Shylock had better watch his ticker.

  67. So…the regular tiny craft items I buy from Ali Express and cannot find here…that cost between .50 and $1…are going to be subjected to a $200 custom agent fee + .10 GST.

    The lunatics have not only taken over the asylum, they have burnt it to the ground and are dancing on the ashes while giving the finger to the dwindling sane onlookers who voted them in.

  68. And Amazon are the canary in the coal mine. Watch the rest of them drop Australia from their delivery schedules.

  69. Entropy

    “This new law levels the playing field for Australian businesses, by forcing foreign businesses to pay GST,” Mr Morrison said in a statement. “The government doesn’t apologise for ensuring multinationals pay a fair amount of tax here in Australia.

    If I buy from amazon the business activity is conducted in the US isnt it? It should be a fair amount of tax there in America.
    Double taxer.

  70. Roger

    @chriskkenny

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    They will, you numpty, by blocking Australian customers.

  71. mh

    Great. Australians shouldn’t be buying from Bilderberg globalists like Jeff Bezos anyway.

  72. Neil

    That’s just a shut up and go away argument. Voters are entitled to criticise their government. It is a fundamental part of democracy.

    Ok but most of the people condemning ScoMo would not have the balls to do anything different. The lefties are vicious and never give up. ScoMo gave in like 99.99 of the population would have done

  73. calli

    He wasn’t voted in to give in.

  74. Gary

    Local suppliers of my drone parts order shipments under $1000. Will they now charge two sets of GST?

  75. Megan, I just bought a hose fitting that is not available in Australia but got it for $3.30 from China with free postage. China is building a very large production capability for the minor stuff that thousand dollar equipments must have to operate.
    But that aside, what if I say I won’t pay the Harvey Norman Tax. Will the government just dump it all at the local tip – which will cost, or burn it – which will cost more, or store it in huge sheds which will need to be inventoried, which will cost even more?
    I can believe so easily that this absolutely pathetic attempt to get money has been costed, and the costings are available to the public?
    I haven’t even a clue as to how much the Harvey Norman Tax is supposed to raise. Does anyone? And the assumptions that underlie these figures – any clue?

  76. Entropy

    Was this a lefty meme? I thought it as all Gerry harvey’s Work, built on the theory I would buy el cheap electronics from him if only OS retailers paid GST on them.

    I thought he was wrong because even if I did pay theGST on these small items, they would still be cheaper than what Gerry Harvey believes I should pay.
    The joke is he was right because overseas retailers decided it was just easier not to do business with me rather than become a tax collector for a foreign government.

    The liberal party must die.

  77. Percy Popinjay

    @chriskkenny

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    Another graduate of the School of Alberscreecheenomics.

  78. candy

    This new law levels the playing field for Australian businesses, by forcing foreign businesses to pay GST,”

    I would have thought Australian businesses would put their prices up, if the foreign businesses are out of the way, because they can. Doesn’t reducing the number of competitors increase prices?

  79. Roger

    Doesn’t reducing the number of competitors increase prices?

    Yes, which is where we were before the internet revolution, as anyone who bought books, CDs, clothing etc. at exorbitant prices from Australian retailers in days of yore can attest.

  80. Rebel with cause

    Great lead into an election campaign. The number of Australians that have purchased from Amazon US or UK must number in the 100s of 1000s.

    For those claiming that this ruling can be skirted by use of freight forwarders – Amazon refuses to ship to known freight forwarders, and the cost of such services are usually prohibitive anyway.

  81. Neil

    He wasn’t voted in to give in.

    Like I said to someone earlier. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done. The left are vicious and very few people have the balls to stand up to them

  82. cynical1

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    How the fuck does this affect a second hand fishing reel bought from a private citizen in Toyko?

  83. Neil

    He wasn’t voted in to give in.

    Like I said to someone earlier. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done. The left are vicious and very few people have the balls to stand up to them

  84. cynical1

    Toyko = Tokyo.

    Bloody fingers.

  85. JC

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2725227, posted on May 31, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    @chriskkenny

    If they won’t pay 10 per cent tax like all other retailers then great – stay out.

    Our friends in the media.

    Two things.

    1. The liar’s party toyed with the idea but in the end, walked away from tax on imports.

    2. In the 13 odd years, I’ve been living here once have I read any economist raise the issue of the importance of consumer purchasing power. In other words, people accessing cheaper goods elsewhere gives them purchasing power … a very beneficial thing.

    You know, in all their misdeeds the Liars party walked away from this tax when they were last in power.

  86. Megan

    But that aside, what if I say I won’t pay the Harvey Norman Tax?

    My thought exactly, Winston. The custom agent is $200 down the tube and I certainly am not paying a $5 delivery or collection fee to AusPost on a 50 cent plastic envelope of gold paint pigment. The skip operators will be thrilled…one out of the back of every post office.

    And as for Chris Kenny and ScoMo the Moron…the big retailers don’t pay GST…the customer does. As someone else has already pointed out the seller is expected to become a de facto branch of the ATO with all the utter useless administration costs that entails. How utterly stupid and brain dead do you have to be to get something so basic this wrong? Oh yeah…be a journalist or a politician.

  87. JC

    Oh and I forgot. I hope Gerry Harvey falls over and breaks a leg. The malicious and mendacious prick.

    I hope he has Google linked to his name because I want him to read this.

    Gerry,
    We’ve been buying imported furniture pieces that you sell at Space over the past few months. We go to your store, choose the piece, colour and/ or fabric etc and then go to a grey market importer who offers the same piece at a good discount to you. I will continue doing this forever now, whereas we never did this before you began to agitate against Australian consumers accessing cheaper products through the web from overseas. I also tell our friends to do the same. Sure, it’s only small stuff, but I’m trying to do everything I can that’s legally possible to hurt you back, you sack of shit.

  88. Megan

    Shortarse has snookered the bunch of halfwits and baby daddies of the Coalition, JC. All he needs to to do is wait for the chaos and unforeseen (only to the designers of this monstrosity) consequences to begin unravelling and with a very sincere smirk point out that the Liar’s Party rejected it once and will remove it if they are elected.

    Although, a politician of any stripe removing a tax? I’m more likely to spot a unicorn in my local Coles store. Or a one use plastic bag.

  89. Megan

    Toyko. Japanese replacement for ToysRUs.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Tomorrow I am going to go to Harvey Norman and wet one of his beds.

  91. Infidel Tiger

    Bowen is all over the wireless says by how terrible this is for Australians.

    The ALP really are cold calculating pricks. We deserve what’s coming.

  92. Chris M

    This Labor government is awful.

  93. stackja

    Child’s Lemonade Stand Shut Down For Lack Of Permit
    May 29, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    By Shaun Boyd

    DENVER (CBS4) – Denver police shut down a lemonade stand put on by a group of brothers over a permitting issue.

    When Jennifer Knowles helped her sons set up their first lemonade stand over the weekend, she thought it would be a lesson in entrepreneurship and charity.

    “The boys went online and they decided they wanted to help a child in another country less fortunate, and we found a place in Colorado Springs called Charity International, and they picked a five-year-old boy in Indonesia,” she said.

    But they got an unexpected lesson too.

    “Someone complained about our lemonade stand,” said Knowles.

    Turns out, you need a permit to operate a lemonade stand in Denver similar to hot dog, peanut and sunflower seed vendors outside Coors Field.

    The city says it’s about health and safety, but in the Knowles’ case, competition may also be in play.

    The Knowles set up right next to the Denver Arts Festival, where there was a lemonade vendor.

    “We had never thought that the other lemonade vendor could feel threatened by our little kid lemonade stand,” she said. “I can understand why someone would get upset.”

    The family sold lemonade 2 for $1 while, she says, the vendor sold it for $7 a glass.

  94. Robber Baron

    The liberal party must die.

    I did my bit today…my membership lapsed.

    I could have renewed. All it would have taken was a call from someone human, but not the libs, they robo called me telling me how important it is that a Turnbull government wins the next election. And today they sent me a text.


    Dear Robber Your membership xxxxxx expires today.
    Please renew immediately online to avoid losing your pre-selection voting entitlements.
    Click on the link below to pay your subscription.
    https://members.vic.liberal.org.au/member-resources

    Not one call from my branch or any politican. They have zero respect for members. This is why the party must be destroyed.

  95. Neil

    The ALP really are cold calculating pricks. We deserve what’s coming.

    I agree with that. When labor blocked the 2014 budget Abbott should have called an election. Lefties are relentious and never give in. I think they are evil. They will never admit when they do something wrong. They locked up 50,000 boat people from 2008-2013 and have never apologised for that. And they never will

  96. areff

    Spot on, Megan. They are incompetent at every level. Can’t think. Can’t do. Can’t understand why. I was cleaning out the laundry today and found four or five of what we call “robbers” down here — the white, spiky, tumbleweed-floaty seed dispensers — nodding in a cobweb. Thought immediately of the current cabinet and then vacuumed them away.

  97. Elizur Wright

    Amazon knows Strayans are addicted to their tax year end sales … hope they have a ripper June.

  98. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    alp and lnp , deadshits to left of ’em, deadshits to the right of ’em.

  99. Art Vandelay

    I’m trying to work out who the Libs haven’t pissed all over. There’s:

    Superannuants
    Self-funded retirees
    Investors/shareholders
    Smokers
    Drinkers
    Wage earners/taxpayers
    Supporters of free speech
    Electricity consumers
    Internet users (eg, NBN, data retention)

    and now consumers who like to shop online.

    They are absolute morons.

  100. Art Vandelay

    Add petrol consumers to the list (re-indexing of fuel excise).

  101. Bushkid

    Neil
    #2725053, posted on May 31, 2018 at 3:15 pm
    A turd of a man

    he gave in to political pressure like you would have done in the same situation. Why don’t you enter Parliament and show us how it is done

    Sorry, “giving in to political pressure”?

    What?

    For whom, exactly, is our government supposed to be governing?

    We little folks out here are under ever more increasing “pressure” from what is supposed to be “our” government governing “for” us, yet we don’t give in, we’re just getting angrier by the bloody day!

    E.g., check out the example in yesterdays Paywallian about “our” governments move to penalise most ICE motor vehicle and force car makers to sell more hybrids and EVs. All on the pretext fo “reducing CO2 emissions” in the name of the great god gerbil worming!

    Governments that develop a taste for forcing people to do things against their will, interests or better judgement eventually learn that it’s a bad idea.

  102. Bushkid

    ScoMo gave in like 99.99 of the population would have done

    Speak for yourself!

    I’ve personally given a big steaming heap of shit to a union over its disgusting behaviour towards those of us in a particular occupation at the time. They’re only “scary” if you think they are. If you stand up to the bastards, they crumple like the sacks of shit they are. The ALP are the unions. Remember, Shorten wants to “run the country like a union”, so best we all stand up and say what we think.

    And in your own words Neil, why don’t you go into parliament yourself and do something.

  103. stackja

    2GB Ross Greenwood says Amazon not getting enough profit in Australia.

  104. Helen

    Will this apply to Kindle as well?

  105. Helen

    Turpentine petrol tax. So the plumber who buys a smaller more efficient co2 efficient car has to make 6 trips to get his gear to the job site. Yay that’s saving emisssions, Turpentine.

    So how does the farmer fare? Fucked, basically.

  106. cynical1

    Turpentine petrol tax. So the plumber who buys a smaller more efficient co2 efficient car has to make 6 trips to get his gear to the job site. Yay that’s saving emisssions, Turpentine.

    Wait till the gutless heap has his trailer on the back.

  107. Tel

    Sorry, “giving in to political pressure”?

    What?

    For whom, exactly, is our government supposed to be governing?

    Won’t be long before there’s a painting of Harvey Norman in Parliament House alongside all the Prime Ministers.

  108. Chris M

    Will this apply to Kindle as well?

    I understand Amazon keep ownership of the material, you are kind of renting it. So if Amazon switch Kindle texts off (as they have done in the past) for Australians it will be the icing on the cake. But more likely they will just block future Kindle (text and reader) sales as with all their other products.

  109. Megan

    Thought immediately of the current cabinet and then vacuumed them away.

    Yes areff, if only… I would have first *bashed them flat with a broom and then attacked with the vacuum..

    *NADT).

  110. a happy little debunker

    duncanm @ #2725176, posted on May 31, 2018 at 5:39 pm

    “Unmitigated bullshit.”

    Amazon pays sales tax to the following states
    Alabama
    •Arizona
    •Arkansas – as of 3/01/17.
    •California
    •Colorado
    •Connecticut
    •Florida
    •Georgia
    •Hawaii – as of 4/01/17.
    •Illinois
    •Indiana
    •Iowa – as of 1/01/17.
    •Kansas
    •Kentucky
    •Louisiana – as of 1/01/17.
    •Maryland – Started collecting sales tax in October of 2014.
    •Massachusetts
    •Minnesota – Started collecting tax in October of 2014.
    Mississippi – as of 2/01/17.
    •Missouri – as of 2/01/17.
    •Nebraska – as of 1/01/17.
    •Nevada
    •New Jersey
    •New York
    •North Carolina
    •North Dakota
    •Ohio
    •Oklahoma – as of 3/01/17.
    •Pennsylvania
    Rhode Island – as of 2/01/17.
    •South Carolina – Starting in January of 2016, South Carolina residents will have to pay a sales tax on Amazon purchases.
    •South Dakota – as of 2/01/17.
    •Tennessee
    •Texas
    •Utah – as of 1/01/17.
    •Vermont – as of 2/01/17.
    •Virginia
    •Washington
    •West Virginia
    •Wisconsin
    •Wyoming – as of 3/01/17.

    That’s a whole lotta “Unmitigated bullshit.”.

    https://www.rather-be-shopping.com/blog/2015/09/21/states-that-collect-amazon-sales-tax/

  111. NuThink

    @manalive

    One feels like a Soviet era worker from Magnitogorsk on his sole lifetime trip to Moscow to receive the Order of the Red Banner of Labour medal wandering goggle-eyed through Beryozka — although ordinary Soviet citizens were forbidden to enter.
    Maybe that’s our government’s next step.

    It seems that AusPost has already started its own Beryozka with the shop in Sydney for the privileged that stocks many products that are in demand (as well as in Oz by mothers) but that only posts to China.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-post-store-for-daigou-who-ship-products-to-china-2018-5

  112. Egor

    It’s not the GST that’s the problem it’s the reduction of stuff for sale from 600 million items to 60 million items. Recall how e commerce was going to expand our horizons of choice.
    Nothing I buy from Amazon is available retail here without the retailer backordering it from the US…..thereby injecting a middle man rent seeker.
    The Liberals have always liked forcing us to deal with rent seekers.
    Amazon seriously believe that the work arounds for their arrogance aren’t going to appear by the dozen?
    Silly boys.

  113. Helen

    Convert Kindle to something else

    pdf

    or this one looks good

    Then if Aus is switched off, you still have your books.

  114. Helen

    OK I just set up a myus account and made it my account with Amazon and deleted all the others. See what happens. I only get Kindle from them anyhow.

  115. Egor

    Australians have always been treated as an underclass by US manufacturers. I buy ‘mechanical things’ from the US, the small but useful accessory kits that accompany these products in the US, like mini torsion keys, spacers, packers to alter cast, most used spares etc are always stripped from items exported to the convict gene carriers, who accept anything, gratefully.

  116. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hello Labor!!!!!

    It’s f$cking over kids.

    Bye bye Liberals.

    Bye bye.

  117. Dr Fred Lenin

    This GST action is excellent ,a real money spinner ,every $100 raised will only cost $126 to administer ,the profits will be used to retire debt ,a win for Australia .
    The turnbull labor government,working for the future ,forward into the 1920s comrades.

  118. notafan

    The government has put pressure on Amazon, because it has a presence here. Amazon has responded by saying it won’t pay GST from its foreign sites. But Amazon AU will of course make a huge profit here in OZ, because it can jack up its prices. SO it doesn’t really mind. I’m assuming that they have loked at the figures and realised that can get as much turnover and profit by selling solely through their Oz outlet to Oz customers as they can selling through their Oz and other outlet

    Exactly

    it is worth noting that Amazon fought tooth and nail to avoid complying with state based sales tax rules in the US

  119. Macspee

    Time to boycott the Aussie businesses who, deciding that their expensive stuff should be bought by the Aussie consumer fought to make sure it couldn’t happen despite the fact that even GST free the cost of delivery from the US makes purchases at least as expensive if not more than locally purchased – apart of course from the fact that what is bought from Amazon can’t be bought from or is inferior to Aussie product.

  120. cynical1

    The Government has opted for a vendor collection model, which means that foreign online retailers, such as Amazon and eBay, will be liable for the GST on goods sold to an Australian consumer. Foreign online retailers are only required to collect GST where they make sales to Australians of more than $75,000 per year. This exempts small sellers of goods to Australia; however, most large foreign online retailers will easily meet the threshold.

    From “Catalyst Financial”.

    So, in theory “Small sellers” are exempt.

    Presumably the “Vendor” is Australian customs.

  121. cynical1

    I’m assuming that they have looked at the figures and realised that can get as much turnover and profit by selling solely through their Oz outlet to Oz customers as they can selling through their Oz and other outlet

    Except the AU branch has a crap selection and prices.

    Still, I suppose that will level the playing field with Hardly Normal, Myers etc.

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