Open Forum: June 2, 2018

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  1. C.L.

    In this three-part series, Four Corners delivers a riveting account of the allegations and evidence from the characters central to the drama that has gripped the world.

    When a Democrat president runs an illegal spying operation against an opposition candidate, it’s a gripping drama.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It is just the start. It will be an expensive sambles.

    A few years ago, the Western Australian Government of Colin Barnett was attempting to negotiate a 1.3 billion dollar package with the Noongar tribe, in full and final settlement of all future land rights claims. FOUR of the Noongars went to court and almost derailed the whole package, claiming they hadn’t been consulted. I’m foreseeing a lot of similar legal dogfights over any treaty.

  3. Rae

    the warring cannibals and disunited superstitious people they were

    Aha. So, you were there at the time.

  4. You can put a message on Johnny Burgers about his ching chong burger.
    Here.

  5. nemkat

    Does Mansell have Negrito blood, as the genuine Tasmanian Abos were said to?

    Dunno, egg.
    What do you think?

  6. mh

    Leave Nigel Mansell alone. He was a great racing driver.

  7. zyconoclast

    Is Sweden about to have its Trump moment?

    Sweden will head to the polls on September 9th. The pre-election polls predict that this will be a watershed election for Swedes, perhaps the first since 1917 where the Social Democratic Party does not finish first. The reason this might happen, though, is familiar to anyone following politics in the West. Blue-collar voters, who have traditionally voted for the centre-left, are leaving the party over its views on immigration.

  8. Rae

    Victoria to do a treaty with aboriginals great white leader Big White Chief Nigel Mansellaboogabooga.

    Huh? Tasmaniac isn’t he? Triguboff the builders nephew.

  9. struth

    Nemcat gazes into his crystal balls………..

    Tell us all about the future numkut.

    Wanker.

  10. egg_

    Dumbkat is losing its grip.

  11. JC

    Springer Jones’ wife seems to be the person doing the interviewing for the ABC’s Wussiagate. Can you imagine how even handed it’s going to be with Sour Tits Sarah as the series’ host. Just imagine.

  12. struth

    Nigel lives near warnambool nowadays.

    Soon to be renamed Nigelaloo

  13. Eyrie

    Nah, hydrogen is the future for cars. I have this great idea for storing it on nanoscale carbon rods.
    I’m going to call my invention “petrol”.

  14. zyconoclast

    The University of New Mexico is hosting a social justice conference this week with speakers discussing racism, colonization, and white “anti-racism” in education.

    According to the event flyer, the focus of the conference is to discuss “colonization being endemic in society and its connections to anti-indigeneity, antiblackness, anti-brownness, anti-immigration, anti-LGTBQ and anti-dis/ability rhetoric; discourses deeply rooted in the social fabric of the U.S.”

  15. zyconoclast

    Seven men arrested after reports of touching young girls at Roseville water park

    The Roseville Police Department arrested seven men on Monday after multiple girls reported men inappropriately touching them at the Golfland SunSplash water park in Roseville, said Rob Baquera, department spokesman.

    The men were booked Monday night into the Placer County Jail on suspicion of lewd acts with a child under 14 years of age, as well as conspiracy to commit a crime.

    Police believe the men know each other “and worked in a coordinated effort to inappropriately touch several female juveniles,” the department said.

    They were identified as Gursharanpal Banga, 34, Manpreet Dhillon, 26, Lakhveer Gill, 30, Baljinder Khaira, 38, Balwinder Malhi, 32, Dharampal Singh, 21, and Harpreet Talwar, 18.

  16. zyconoclast

    The Diversity Staff at the University of Michigan Is Nearly 100 Full-Time Employees
    There are various reasons for surging education costs, but the primary one is the expansion of university administration in recent decades.

  17. Snoopy

    Springer Jones’ wife seems to be the person doing the interviewing for the ABC’s Wussiagate.

    I hope she’s gentle with Zoe’s kids.

  18. zyconoclast

    Of Boys and Toys

    If you have a son who is all-boy, your job is not to raise him to be a girl or a neuter, but a gentleman and a scholar: a man who is strong in mind, body, and spirit, and who will use that strength in the service of others.

  19. zyconoclast

    Hungary sees abortion numbers plunge with rise of pro-family policies

    Hungary’s ever increasing support for families by the government is creating an environment where marriages and families are flourishing and abortion numbers are dropping, one of the country’s ministers advised a recent international conference on life and family.

    The support has caused abortion numbers to plunge by more than a third of what they were in 2010 (40,449 to 28,500). It has also caused a plunge in the number of divorces (23,873 in 2010 to 18,600 in 2017) and a surge in the number of marriages (35,520 in 2010 to 50,600 in 2017).

  20. Bruce of Newcastle

    Nah, hydrogen is the future for cars. I have this great idea for storing it on nanoscale carbon rods. I’m going to call my invention “petrol”.

    😀

    Can’t wait for Turnbull to legislate a per day CO2 exhaust limit for homo sapiens.

  21. zyconoclast

    Trey Gowdy Blocked Investigation Into The FBI

    Top-level people in the world of intelligence and independent journalism report that House Oversight chairman Trey Gowdy effectively blocked investigations into the FBI spying on the President Donald Trump campaign.

    This is not the first time Gowdy, who endorsed Marco Rubio in the presidential primaries, has shut down an investigation on behalf of the establishment. But the fact that many traditional conservative outlets carry water and run interference for Gowdy, painting him as a hero, makes it harder to call Gowdy out.

  22. nemkat

    Hilarious, his advance team have allowed him to be photographed under a large sign announcing
    A SACK OF Succu…”.
    He might be better off campaigning in Longman, but then again…

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    INDIGENOUS
    Indigenous, Muslim leaders urge tolerance

    The Australian
    12:00AM June 2, 2018

    Emily Ritchie
    Reporter

    The National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples and the ­Islamic Council of Victoria have signed a joint commitment to increasing religious and racial tolerance in Australia and announced they will co-fund a scholarship for refugees at La Trobe University.

    The accord is the first in Australian history between a faith body and the national congress.

    Jackie Huggins, co-chair of the national congress, said her organisation looked forward to working closely with the council.

    “In a multicultural country such as Australia, it is important that we all share this week as ­National Reconciliation Week as proud citizens,” Ms Huggins said.

    “ICV have committed themselves to work with the First ­Nations and we look forward to the opportunity.”

    National congress director Rod Little said he was delighted the two organisations “share a commitment to a fair and diverse Australia where everyone is afforded justice and dignity regardless of their racial background or religion”.

    From the Oz. Does this mean that, in the interests of tolerance, Australia’s “First Peoples” will cease their habit of spitting on other Australians, and wishing them a “welcome to country?”

  24. nemkat

    The pressure is supposed to be on Shorten holding Longman and Braddon, but Turnbull will look pretty hopeless if ShitShark gets up in Mayo.

  25. calli

    But local Lisa Chappell has stated an online petition to see the name removed, labelling it as offensive.

    What a disgraceful display. A woman using her White Privilege against a poor, hapless asian.

    I hope the HRC goes her bigtime.

  26. calli

    In bilateral knee news, the impatient patient is up on his pins, walking and giving the nurses gyp.

    They say he’s the toughest one they’ve seen yet. 😀

  27. Stimpson J. Cat

    They say he’s the toughest one they’ve seen yet.

    If he slacks off his rehab tell him you will organize Stimpys Sensual Scented Massage Services to give him back his up and go.
    Nothing like the sight of a mentally ill agile bald man whistling Enya Sail Away and carrying a foldup massage table, a bag of scented oils, candles and Enigma cds to make someone get up and walk or possibly even run in the other direction.
    I’m much like Jesus in that way.

  28. A Ching Chong Burger is only $12.95
    I dunno where this $45 burger came from.

  29. calli

    Lol, Stimps.

    Your comment is saved and I’m not afraid to threaten him with it. I have an Enigma cd tucked away somewhere. Deep Forest would be worth a try too.

  30. Snoopy

    Winston, ask Confused Old Misfit. He’s all over it.

  31. mh;

    Monty might be gripping something, but I don’t think anyone could say the Russia ‘investigation’ has gripped the world. If it was, why have CNN’s ratings sunk lower than a well-digger’s ringpiece?

    Um. Ah. Well, it’s because…
    …no, that’s not it.
    Dammit. It’s um there. Right on the tip of um, my tongue.
    Ah. I know!
    Wussia Wussia wussia!

  32. Roger

    The $49.90 Burgerzilla is on the second page of the menu, Winston.

    We await I.T.’s review with relish…and bacon, lettuce, onion and two serves of fries!

  33. Snoopy

    How apt!

    Liberty Quote
    If a man is called a Chinaman, a member of the Labour Party will always be found ready to rise and protest against his employment. I have no sympathy with any such narrow-minded pettifogging views.

    — Donald Cameron, member for the Free Trade Party, March 22, 1904

  34. bundyrum

    Thanks from the last OT for the personal insults Makka & Baldrick.

    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.

    I always read both of you & find you both very good posters, so why the insults?

  35. egg_

    But local Lisa Chappell has stated an online petition to see the name removed, labelling it as offensive.

    Sourpossum Burger?

  36. nemkat

    The point is that The Narrative won’t be mocked.
    Johnny will pull his head in before council’s Health Inspector shows up.

  37. struth

    Mz Chappel.
    I rabel you offensive.
    You nuffing but lound eyed egg and bacon eater.
    Rots of people reery rike my chingy chong buger.
    Why you no rike my burger name you pliveriged fat cow.
    Now you get out my shop.
    Get oooouuuuutttt ……….

  38. egg_

    So how much CO2 in g/km does a Tesla S generate with a 65kwhr battery in Australia today?

    60KwHr and a rage of 350km.

    Firstly coal produces 1kg of CO2 per kwhr, and add 5% for distribution losses and the Tesla S generates 70kg of CO2 at the power stations in 350km. This is 200g/km. Ban Electric cars!

  39. struth

    Australia can’t keep the fucking lights on yet wants to power it’s cars with ELECTRICKERY.

    Dumb shithole this hivizastan is.
    You embarrassed yet?

  40. H B Bear

    In 1840 the Maori were a sovereign people.
    Quite likely the same for Aboriginals in Australia too.

    Dr Graegooglery QC’s ignorance on display yet again. Fvckwit.

  41. Rae

    CHING CHONG BURGER / $12.90

    You’ve guessed it! An Asian inspired ….

    Of course it’s racist. That’s obvious from the description on the menu.

    Whether many people care that it’s racist is moot.

  42. JD

    From a Curry Munching Malaysian who has been here for 20 years, the reactions I get most, are from whitefellas (what is the female version of that!) who get upset when I refer to myself as a curry muncher. Of course the Indians around me get very upset too, but that comes from an inbuilt chip on shoulders that they seem to be born with. Malaysians from my generation tend to be cultural chameleons, except that we can’t change the colour of our skins. We always refer to ourself as Malaysians first. Johnny would be a Malaysian Chinese as I am a Malaysian Indian. Most of us are good at taking the mickey out of ourselves. I would not be surprised if there will be a new burger called Go Johnny Go on the menu :). BTW, I consider myself a proud Queenslander stuck for the last 4 years in mainland Tasmania. Can’t wait to get back to the last parts of Australia that still seem to have a sense of humour. Go the Maroons!!

  43. herodotus

    Meesta Fawlty, Meesta Fawlty!
    Dat Daily Telegraph, dey gone crazy!

    Couples ditch monogamy for multiple lovers
    Society has enshrined the convention of one-partner relationships but for some couples an open arrangement is the only thing that works.

    How my open sexual relationship helped me trust
    Having sex with other lovers strengthened our bond rather than being consumed by jealousy of what the other was up to.

    (subscriber only)

  44. cynical1

    Poor little countries at the bottom of the World, need a chance too.

    When you can’t compete, start your own game.

    https://www.trademe.co.nz

    Shit. I think we will have to pay GST there too.

  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dr Graegooglery QC’s ignorance on display yet again. Fvckwit.

    Harsh, but fair.

  46. Mak Siccar

    Camped beside Lake Pamamaroo near Menindee, NSW. Grasshoppers (aka kangaroos), emus, pelicans and assorted other two-winged flying birds. About to start the campfire. Ahhh, the serenity – you wouldn’t be dead for quids!

  47. Stimpson J. Cat

    From a Curry Munching Malaysian who has been here for 20 years, the reactions I get most, are from whitefellas (what is the female version of that!) who get upset when I refer to myself as a curry muncher.

    Can I just say that this is fantastic, and it confirms something I have known for a long time.
    The Maggi Curry 2 Minute Noodles from Malaysia are a different recipe to anywhere else in the world and are vastly superior.
    I buy them specially from a Ching Chong shop around the corner from me.
    Keep up the great work JD,
    my Curry Munching Friend.

    😁

  48. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hands up who would buy a Grey Nurse Shark Burger.
    I’m assuming everyone.

  49. John Constantine

    Yer right snoops, I was trying to do a funny, but am too annoyed with the duplication of existing systems, starting in Victoria, when the tropics are the most vulnerable to disease crossing the borders.

    Bioterrorism threat is the quiet justification for this, but nobody can say it in the media or it ends their career.

    We will never let them change the way we live, except you get to pay five times as much for tags and do heaps more compliance work so our quisling elites can import masses of people likely to her our a bio terrorist.

    And the population Ponzi property scheme will collapse anyway.

    Comrades.

  50. nemkat

    The Grey Nurse is one of our top sharks.
    People that bother them need locking up.

  51. nemkat

    Bioterrorism threat is the quiet justification for this, but nobody can say it in the media or it ends their career.
    Any proof for this outlandish statement, John C.?
    Infectious Disease has the potential to destroy the pastoral industries, why are you railing against sensible measures that would mitigate the damage?

  52. cohenite

    Symbolic indigenous recognition for all of us

    The Australian June 2, 2018

    NOEL PEARSON
    Columnist

    In my address to the 50th anniversary dinner of this newspaper in July 2014, I first proposed the concept of the three stories of Australia as follows:

    Our nation is in three parts. There is our ancient heritage, written in the continent and the original culture painted on its land and seascapes. There is our British inheritance, the structures of government and society transported from the United Kingdom fixing its foundations in the ancient soil. There is our multicultural achievement: a triumph of immigration that brought together the gifts of peoples and cultures from all over the globe — forming one indissoluble commonwealth.

    We stand on the cusp of bringing these three parts of our national story together … with constitutional recognition of indigenous Australians. This reconciliation will make a more complete commonwealth.

    The following year, Julian Leeser, now Liberal MP and co-chairman of the Joint Select Committee on Constitutional Recog­nition Relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples, together with Cambridge philosopher Damien Freeman, proposed that the recognition of indigenous Australians could be achieved via a declaration outside of the Constitution. Their paper was published by Uphold & Recognise, the organisation they founded of constitutional conservatives committed to recognition. The declaration would set out symbolism, with an accompanying constitutional amendment by referendum setting out the substance.

    Leeser and Freeman’s concept was that such a declaration would have no legal footing but it would have moral, social and cultural power akin to the US Declaration of Independence. I was taken by their idea and came to think that a declaration outside of the Constitution would be an appropriate place for symbolic recognition — the better place for poetry — as long as it was in addition to substantive constitutional reform.

    READ MORE
    A Declaration of AustraliaNOEL PEARSON
    The Referendum Council’s report last year recommended constitutional reform establishing a voice, as well as a declaration outside of the Constitution.

    I agree with Leeser and Freeman that the Constitution is not the place for symbolic language. As Australia’s basic law, it is our rule book, establishing procedures, institutions and the distribution of power. This is why I support an institutional voice for indigenous Australians within the Constitution and a stand-alone declaration outside of it.

    Leeser and Freeman propose a national competition to develop the wording of a declaration. In my oration in Adelaide this week in honour of Lowitja O’Donoghue, I proposed seven terms of reference for a declaration.

    First, it should bring together each of the three parts of Australia: its indigenous heritage, its British institutions and its multicultural migration.

    Second, it should honour each of these three parts as fully as possible.

    Third, it must deal with the events at Sydney Cove in 1788 from two perspectives, from the perspective of invasion and from the perspective of settlement.

    Fourth, it must honestly deal with the bad and the good of history in as straightforward a way as we can muster.

    Fifth, it should commit us to the stewardship of our land for future generations.

    Sixth, it should commit us to making good on the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

    Seventh, it should set out our most characteristic values as Australians.

    Liberal MP Tim Wilson has produced a draft and broadcaster Stan Grant produced a draft in an essay in the book Shireen Morris and I edited last year, A Rightful Place.
    In the spirit of generating ideas for a declaration I have produced a draft, which I presented in my Lowitja Oration, which you can read here. It is for the purpose of illustrating what could be possible if 300 to 500 apposite words could afford mutual recognition of all Australians and make for a more unified and reconciled nation

    Bullshit.

  53. Snoopy

    Aboriginal doctors graduate.

    A treaty with Indigenous nations has never been more necessary.

  54. nemkat

    News from 2014, cohemite.

  55. Snoopy

    Poor Noel can’t get his head around the obvious fact that his Uluru frolic was a bust.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    At the end of the battle of Arnhem, when the surviving British Airborne forces were evacuated across the Rhine River –

    “A Corporal of horse in the Household Cavalry saw the paratroopers when they had arrived. “They looked like Hell. Dirty and cut up and all of them needing a bath and shave and some sleep.” Some of them shouted angrily at members of the Guards Armoured Division “What, you’ve only just arrived?” “Did you have a nice drive up?” or “Where the Hell have you been, mate.”

    One paratrooper shouted to an Irish guardsman, “Having a good rest, chum?” “Glory be to God,” replied the Irishman, “and haven’t we been fighting since D-day, not Friday?”

    Anthony Beevor, “Arnhem – The Battle for the Bridges, 1944.” Page 339

  57. Snoopy

    I enjoy your work, John. Don’t let the drone legions grind you down.

  58. nemkat

    It was only a bust because Turnbull knocked it on the head smartly.
    Tim Wilson and Julian Leeser are still on board, so it’s not over yet.

  59. DrBeauGan

    Bullshit.

    Embarrassing bullshit, Cohenite. Designed to give us all the warm and fuzzies so the creepy people can plunder us.

  60. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Aboriginal doctors graduate.

    “Aboriginal” doctors graduate. FIFY.

  61. cohenite

    News from 2014, cohemite.

    Thanks for noticing.

  62. egg_

    Our nation is in three parts. There is our ancient heritage, written in the continent and the original culture painted on its land and seascapes. There is our British inheritance, the structures of government and society transported from the United Kingdom fixing its foundations in the ancient soil. There is our multicultural achievement: a triumph of immigration that brought together the gifts of peoples and cultures from all over the globe — forming one indissoluble commonwealth.

    Covered on Teh Dumb recently IIRC, stating that The Uluru Statement from the Heart had basically been rejected by Federal Parliament.

  63. egg_

    cohemite?

    Grigs would be outraged by dumbkat’s recent typos.

  64. H B Bear

    Ayers Rock Aboriginal Industry circle jerk.

  65. zyconoclast

    Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! In a brief but dramatic episode, two lions, two tigers, a jaguar and a bear were found to be missing from their enclosures in a zoo in western Germany on Friday, prompting an all-hands search effort from the police, the fire brigade and a team of veterinarians.

  66. cohenite

    cohemite?

    I thought I had been promoted.

  67. egg_

    Ayers Rock Aboriginal Industry circle jerk.

    Begs the standard Q&A sanity check question: how much $?

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    So this is who s the old bloke who is running the NTEU at ANU these days, representing academic matters. Spokesman from the depths of academic scholarship and knowledge:

    “Matthew is a Technical Officer in the Research School of Biology, specialising in the design, construction and maintenance of electrical and refrigeration research equipment primarily used in Plant Science.”

  69. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Leftoid rhymes with stinkoid

  70. zyconoclast

    One in five rooftop solar units deficient, official figures show

    Sustainability consultant Michael Mobbs, of the inner Sydney suburb of Chippendale, has suffered a string of design and installation problems with his $26,000 rooftop solar and storage system installed in 2015. Monitoring revealed the system was providing just 46 per cent the promised electricity.

    Mr Mobbs said his clients frequently reported underperforming rooftop solar, and the industry should be more strictly audited and accredited, while data monitoring should be mandatory.

  71. Boambee John

    Fourth, it must honestly deal with the bad and the good of history in as straightforward a way as we can muster.

    I doubt that Pearson really wants the downside of pre-1770 aboriginal history discussed in any detail.

    By the way, Noel, whatever did happen to those Negritos?

  72. egg_

    whatever did happen to those Negritos?

    Negrito burgers?

  73. Bruce of Newcastle

    Monitoring revealed the system was providing just 46 per cent the promised electricity.

    I’m shocked that an industry built on a giant lie might include vendors who are less than perfect.
    Shocked!

  74. Makka

    I always read both of you & find you both very good posters, so why the insults?

    bundy,
    You called us thick and stupid if I recall. That’s an insult. I returned the favour with a light touch, Sherlock.

    Perhaps think more before you hit the “Post Comment” button. Meanwhile , eat a bowl of cement ,friend.

  75. Geriatric mayfly

    “A Corporal of horse in the Household Cavalry saw the paratroopers when they had arrived. “They looked like Hell. Dirty and cut up and all of them needing a bath and shave and some sleep.” Some of them shouted angrily at members of the Guards Armoured Division “What, you’ve only just arrived?” “Did you have a nice drive up?” or “Where the Hell have you been, mate.”
    One paratrooper shouted to an Irish guardsman, “Having a good rest, chum?” “Glory be to God,” replied the Irishman, “and haven’t we been fighting since D-day, not Friday?”

    I hope that is all footnoted Zulu. Otherwise it could be something akin to what the Bandanna Man plucks out of nowhere. I am sure Beevor is streets ahead of our local story teller.

  76. Mark A

    Just a coincidence surely?
    ———————————–

    Rae
    #2726278, posted on June 2, 2018 at 10:22 am

    Plan for large housing development in Belrose bushland resurfaces

    That story is a year old. Dated 2 June 2017.
    ===========================================
    nemkat
    #2726505, posted on June 2, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    News from 2014, cohemite.

  77. Delta A

    Someone upthread linked to an article about letting boys be boys.

    Six year old grandson went to a school disco last night. Son in Law said that, on dropping Jr off, a swarm of little girls ran over to drag him into their dancing group.

    When SiL returned, he had to extricate Jr from of a pile of little boys. According to Jr, they were playing ‘shooting and stabbing’ and he was one of the many happy casualties. The little girls stood arms crossed, toes tapping as they tsk-tsked about the hopelessness of their future spouses.

    All credit to the school supervisors, they didn’t try to tone down the boy play. Perhaps they realise that most little boys (of any age) can only take so much girl stuff.

  78. DrBeauGan

    Dear Noel, I’ve never felt any need to be reconciled with aborigines because I’ve never had anything against them. The handful I’ve talked to have seemed decent and likeable people, and I wish them all the best. I wish most people the best. The folk I don’t wish the best are the chancers and spongers, the crooks and the con-artists. Of whom you look to be one.

    I hope I’m wrong about that. But if you really want the best for aboriginal people, as I do, you’ll be doing your best to educate them so they fit in with the rest of us. You’ll be making sure they can read and write and do sums. And the main language has to be English. Getting sentimental about preserving aboriginal languages is handicapping the kids sorely, and doing nothing useful. I’ve given the same advice to the Welsh.

    Trying to preserve a culture is fundamentally dumb. It’s like trying to preserve a rose-bush by putting it in a freezer. Cultures are growing things, and they develop by borrowing ideas and customs from other cultures. Your ancient culture hasn’t done much of that before the British turned up. It was frozen in stasis for forty thousand years. My culture also goes back forty thousand years, more, but we’ve managed to improve it quite a lot.

    You’re all very welcome to copy our ideas and customs; in fact quite a few have and are fitting in nicely. You ought to understand that all this symbolic crap you’re peddling isn’t going to do anyone a scrap of good. It won’t stop the rapes and violence in the camps, it will just make some simpletons feel a brief glow of virtue. Remember walking hand in hand over the bridge? Didn’t accomplish anything really, did it?

    So shut up with the bullshit, we’re drowning in it.

    Yours, beaugie.

  79. Makka

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=nuUS3mJ_4Kw

    Trump Discusses Meeting With North Korean Official Kim Yong Chol

    Trump’s got them playing nice and he’s not making any promises. By the time the Phat Phuc sits down across from Trump he know’s he’ll be in a no bullshit deal situation where millions showered on him from the US taxpayer isn’t going to happen. Great progress . Iran is watching very carefully, so are the effeminate communists in the EU.

  80. Rae

    So shut up with the bullshit, we’re drowning in it.

    ROFL.

    You do irony so well, Doc.

  81. struth

    Dear Noel.
    You are a racist.
    I wouldn’t stand up and expect to speak for all white people so why the fuck do you think you can speak for all abos.
    Foff and die you scumbag racist.
    Reconciliation will happen when you apologize to all aboriginal and non aboriginal Australians

  82. Top Ender

    Aboriginal doctors graduate.

    Read the article.

    Didn’t see any.

    (What happened to Test Pattern, BTW?)

  83. JC

    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.

    Was that Makkaroni? He has no manners. Horrible person, horrible.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Quadruple greetings, Baldrick! Great to see you up and about.

    And so frisky! Gamboling around like a spaniel in a troll field. Great to see that.
    Don’t overdo it, early days yet, and these trolls won’t go far, slower than sloths.
    You can have ’em for breakfast next week. 🙂

  85. Confused Old Misfit

    Dear Noel,
    Go have a sit down & talk with Jacinta Price & Warren Mundine.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.

    Here y’are. Have some duck’s back oil.

  87. Delta A

    DrBeauGan
    #2726538, posted on June 2, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Good post, Beaugy.

  88. Makka

    Remember when that great economic mind mUnty was saying 4% GDP was a fantasy. It was only a few weeks back.

    Now a few short weeks later;

    CNBC – Already, the Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow tracker sees the second quarter rising by 4.8 percent. […] Andrew Hunter, U.S. economist at Capital Economics, said the ISM number alone is consistent with GDP growth of better than 4 percent, though he thinks the second quarter will be in the 3 percent to 3.5 percent range.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good post, Beaugy.

    +1

  90. Makka

    Was that Makkaroni?

    Baldy called him a cockhead. I have manners and politely referred to him as Sherlock. You are more wrong than mUnty.

  91. Stimpson J. Cat

    nemkat
    #2726495, posted on June 2, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    The Grey Nurse is one of our top sharks.
    People that bother them need locking up.

    Yes the sheer magnificence of the Grey Nurse is wasted in a burger.
    Straight fish and chips to savor the flavor.
    You won’t find that in an Aldi catalogue,
    let me tell you.

  92. Delta A

    Dear Noel,
    Go have a sit down & talk with Jacinta Price & Warren Mundine.

    Yes! And Jacinta’s mum, Bess. First people in every sense of the term.

  93. Stimpson J. Cat

    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.

    At least you weren’t called a Ching Chong C$ckhead.
    That would be racist.

  94. Makka

    So shut up with the bullshit, we’re drowning in it.

    Good post Doc. When Noel acknowledges his people are systematically abusing their children and inflicting horrific violence on their women, then and only then will he be taken seriously.

  95. Delta A

    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.

    It’s a badge of honor, bundyrum. You’re on the team.

  96. Baldrick

    What are the odds?

    nemkat
    #2726495, posted on June 2, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    The Grey Nurse is one of our top sharks.
    People that bother them need locking up.
    ___
    Grigory M
    #1758933, posted on August 6, 2015 at 2:38 pm
    Anyone who kills a Grey Nurse shark should be fined the maximum of $220,000, gaoled for the maximum of 2 years, and publicly ostracized.

  97. Bruce of Newcastle

    CNBC – Already, the Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow tracker sees the second quarter rising by 4.8 percent.

    And the Wall has been started!

    Construction on San Diego section of US border wall begins, CBP says

    Construction on a stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border wall kicked off Friday in San Diego, Calif., U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officials said. Roughly 14 miles of the eight-to-10-foot-high barrier made out of scrap metal will be replaced with a “bollard-style wall” more than twice as tall, a CBP news release said.

    The new wall will also include an anti-climbing plate, according to the agency. “The San Diego Sector wall construction is one of Border Patrol’s top priority projects,” the statement said.

  98. egg_

    People that bother them need locking up.

    People with good skin on leisure cruises?

  99. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    they tsk-tsked about the hopelessness of their future spouses.

    At our jazz and modern dance class this morning a group of little girls stood at the open double doors joining in with us grown-up ladies going through our paces. They were escapees from watching their brothers at footie, taking shelter from the rain. Some boys came along and joined in sheepishly alongside them. They weren’t much good and soon left, thinking it was far too girly, as the giggling girls made it all too clear the boys were hopeless at it.

    Princess behavior – it’s in the genes. An occasional brave man makes it in ballet, but not many.

  100. Baldrick

    bundyrum
    #2726466, posted on June 2, 2018 at 3:03 pm
    Thanks from the last OT for the personal insults Makka & Baldrick.
    I make a post & am called a cockhead for pointing out something.
    I always read both of you & find you both very good posters, so why the insults?

    Oh snowflake, well what do you call this?

    bundyrum
    #2725879, posted on June 1, 2018 at 3:53 pm
    The posters who keep saying …stupid fucking liberals, are stupid themselves….this is an agenda you thick fucks.

  101. struth

    Makes what in ballet?

    His dad hang himself?

  102. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Straight fish and chips to savor the flavor.

    Suddenly I’m starving. I’d kill for fish and chips from a good chippie.

    Where’s Pauline?

  103. nerblnob

    And the Wall has been started!

    Bruce, your quote is one of the few times you can see the media admitting that there is already a bloody great fence, a wall in places, along pretty much all the border anyway.

  104. Delta A

    An occasional brave man makes it in ballet, but not many.

    Think – imagine – Billy Elliot, a family favourite… with the girls. The boys always seem to be doing something else at the time.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And the Wall has been started!
    Bruce, your quote is one of the few times you can see the media admitting that there is already a bloody great fence, a wall in places, along pretty much all the border anyway.

    Trump’s just filling in the weak spots. Like the little Dutch boy and the dyke.

    Oh shush, those who are thinking up a comment about lesbians.
    The boy with his finger in the dyke is one of my faves from childhood.
    Let innocence live.

  106. Stimpson J. Cat

    There is only one insult on Catallaxy,
    and that is being called Grig.
    Isn’t that right,
    my little Grey Nurse Grig Gimp?

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, I’m off for a good old burn-up in the kitchen. Much to do. See ya.

  108. Bruce of Newcastle

    From our local news a nice story for Top Ender:

    MERCHANT MARINERS REMEMBERED IN NEWCASTLE

    About a remembrance ceremony today here in Newcastle regarding the torpedoing of the Iron Knight and Iron Chieftain, which were transporting iron ore between South Australia and Newcastle.

  109. Rae

    There is only one insult on Catallaxy

    Yea, verily, Stimp the Gimp. An insult to everyones intelligence is what you are.

    But I have some sympathy for you. I have expressed it a number of times. And I’ll say it again, here and now.

    You should have been nominated for Best Gimp of All Time for your performance in Pulp Fiction. No two ways about it.

  110. Rae

    Weeeeell. Seein’ as it was you and the Sherriff and the gunshop owner first up, and then you and Butch and Marcellus. Hell, it coulda been any number of ways.

    Lets just say you had a starrin’ role in a movie about a watch. Leave it at that.

  111. P

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2726579, posted on June 2, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Thank you Bruce. Appreciate. My mum was from Newcastle.

    I’ve spent some time during the last couple of days reading of Sydney May 31 – June 1, 1942, 76yrs ago.

    http://www.navy.gov.au/history/feature-histories/japanese-midget-submarine-attack-sydney-harbour

  112. P

    Remembering 1942: Sydney under attack
    Why did Ban miss?
    The Chicago was a sitting duck. Ban had managed quite skilfully to get himself into a perfect firing position off Potts Point.

    Download the talk – 9:34 min (2.2Mb Mp3)

    At the time of the event in 1942 I was a two year old living at Kings Cross, Sydney, and do not remember anything about this happening at the time.

  113. Empire 5:5

    Yea, verily, Stimp the Gimp. An insult to everyones intelligence is what you are.

    Fake news.

    Nobody here likes you. Nobody cares if you die a lonely agonising death.

    Everyone loves Stimpy.

    Carry on.

  114. Stimpson J. Cat

    At the time of the event in 1942 I was a two year old living at Kings Cross, Sydney, and do not remember anything about this happening at the time.

    Yes but how old was Clive James?
    Asking for an ambivalent friend.

  115. rickw

    What are the odds?

    I had never thought about grey nurse sharks until I started reading posts here!

  116. Nick

    I had never thought about grey nurse sharks until I started reading posts here!

    I never felt like eating one till now either.

  117. Makka

    Sockorama!

    Lol, yeah. Like watching punch and judy without the wit and laffs.

  118. calli

    To cull or not to cull? Brumbies are destroying fragile alpine ecosystems. Killing brumbies is mean and barbaric.

    It’s Da Battle of Da Feelz.

  119. P

    Yes but how old was Clive James?
    Asking for an ambivalent friend.

    This is an unfitting question. It does not deserve an answer.
    I will just say that Clive was a Legacy kid.
    His father suffered in a concentration camp and died later before reaching home.

  120. calli

    I just watched a pollie talking about “re-homing” wild brumbies.

    The Bugclass would be funny if it wasn’t so ruinous.

  121. Confused Old Misfit

    Killing brumbies is mean and barbaric.

    Just like leaving them wild, worm infested, inbred and diseased to slowly, lonely die.

  122. miltonf

    Trumble really seems to be going scorched earth (similar to TLS)- now an assault on the car industry. How could you ever vote LNP again?

  123. H B Bear

    Fat Andy’s ALPFL experiment at the Gold Coast continues to bleed. I have no idea why various sporting codes continue to pour tens of millions of dollars into this wasteland. The only people who make money on the Gold Coast are bikies and the Russian mafia.

    Throw in GWS and Brisbane and Gillion McPolo-Pony’s crew will have torched a couple of hundred million while simultaneously diluting the playing and administrative talent across the rest of the competition, of which about a third is seriously uncompetitive at any given time. Buggered if I know how they sell this slop for north of a billion dollars every five years.

  124. miltonf

    I really think Trumble is quite happy to hand over to peanut head. In fact I’m sure he’d rather that than Tony Abbott.

  125. Rae

    Everyone loves Stimpy.

    Five by Five. If that was so he would have been nominated for Best Gimp of All Time for his role in Pulp Fiction.

    But he wasn’t.

    Carry on.

  126. egg_

    Cannier Cats quizzing the more agreeable female socks for authenticity – keep chipping away folks, it hasn’t gone unnoticed.

  127. egg_

    I really think Trumble is quite happy to hand over to peanut head.

    Trumble may be relieved to hand over the UN reins to Peanut Head?

  128. Snoopy

    Yes but how old was Clive James?
    Asking for an ambivalent friend.

    This is an unfitting question. It does not deserve an answer.

    About four and a half according to Wikipedia. Apparently Clive has given up trying to keep his birthdate a secret.

  129. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yes but how old was Clive James?

    Sadly a friend of mine died today, who was aged four on that day in 1942. May have been a friend of Clive’s as they were in the same circle and also at UniSyd at the same time.

  130. struth

    The political game in Australia is exactly that.
    A game.
    They only get serious if the UN agenda looks like being threatened.

    Remember the first thing Malcum did when Trump was elected was to rush straight out to reaffirm Australia’s subservience to it’s global socialist UN masters.
    The only thing that stirs them.
    Donald Trump is their disaster that must be nuetralised.
    Delivered by the decent people of America.

    He will show them up.
    So, if you haven’t noticed, they’ve sped the agenda up.
    Minimum wage rises and every tax and eco cost that they can push on to us is being accelerated.

    And people still think they are just stupid.
    They are traitors.

  131. P

    Clive was in the same school year as I. Clive was a Legacy kid. This was a form of welfare.
    In those days my uncle (Borneo in the WW2) had nominated me to sell Legacy badges every year of
    my schooldays which I gladly did.
    It wasn’t enough.

  132. woolfe

    Stupid Arab just tried to ram Israeli troops in Hebron

  133. Nick

    It wasn’t enough.

    Then you should have tried harder.

  134. Pedro the Ignorant

    FMD.
    “Sneakers” McGowan, allegedly the Premier of WA, has just announced that the West Australian of the Year is “Professor” Mike Daube, loudmouthed pommy wowser anti everything fuckwit, and the proud owner of Australia’s most punchable face.

    We are doomed.

  135. Nick

    For whiskey drinking Cats, Vintage Cellars has some good prices. Ardberg 10 for roughly $79 and Johnny Walker Platinum for $110

  136. Pedro the Ignorant

    Who the hell votes in these “Person of the Year” wankfests?

    Do they round up a mob of drooling cretins and junkies outside the nightclubs in Northbridge at closing time and give them money to pick the biggest dickhead from a shortlist?

  137. Pedro the Ignorant

    My dog would make a better “West Australian of the Year” than that dunce Daube.

  138. woolfe

    Thirs glass of vine and i’m going out! I luuuuuv this

  139. Pedro the Ignorant

    You may sense that I am somewhat aggrieved at this appointment.

    TV screen barely survived the evening news.

    Flying objects in abundance at Casa Pedro.

  140. squawkbox

    love that Indiana Jones clip, Woolfe. Apparently Harrison Ford had was originally supposed to actually fight the arab with the sword but was suffering from flu and didn’t feel up to it, so adlibbed with those admirable results.

  141. woolfe

    Just replaced my 35 year old NAD 3020 amp with an Amazon sourced digital NAD 3020D. Chuffed!

  142. Rae

    loudmouthed pommy

    WA is full of them. Quite a few of them are here on the Cat.

  143. cohenite

    Latham’s Law

    Mark Latham Spectator Australia 2 June 2018

    In the Middle Ages, society had a long list of taboo terms, usually associated with witchcraft. In today’s politics, the Medieval Left has found it hard to shake off this habit. Last week it added a new phrase to its vocabulary of banned words: ‘white flight’. The PC Lords have decreed that no Labor Party member shall use this expression, lest they be burnt at the stake. The party’s NSW Leader, Luke Foley, has narrowly escaped incineration. He mentioned the verboten phrase once in an interview with Sydney’s Daily Telegraph.

    So far, his punishment has been public humiliation, having been forced to back down and apologise. In the dock of this modern-day Salem, he has promised to never again allow his lips to move in a way that configures the words ‘white flight’. He can say ‘white male privilege’ or ‘whitesplaining’, most certainly – those terms are encouraged in Sussex Street, Salem. But not ‘white flight’.

    Foley needs to understand how, for today’s Left, white is the new black. The things racists and rednecks used to say about black people are now being said repetitively about whites. In fact, you are not a real Leftie unless you publicly denigrate white skin colour, especially if your own skin is a lighter shade of Dulux Hog Bristle. It’s the ultimate in self-flagellation – another Medieval ritual. Poor Luke, the force has deserted him. Censorship is strong. If Foley had said there was too much ‘black attack’ in Australia he would have been hailed as a Labor hero. Instead, he’s hanging onto his leadership by the skin of his light-sabre.

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10155713726744370

  144. P

    It wasn’t enough.

    Then you should have tried harder.

    Legacy Week 2018:
    Sunday 2 September – Saturday 8 September
    Badge Day – Friday 7 September

    Do your bit.

  145. herodotus

    There has been a “save the brumbies” movement for years which has seen many re-homed and becoming beautiful ponies for their adoptive families.
    While on the subject of horses, Gay Waterhouse has had a spray today (happily taken up by the media) about Aussies too lazy to “get up early” to have a job in racing stables.
    This was essentially a self-serving policy statement to justify employing visiting foreigners and not caring about the rapid turnover of staff. They are expendable.
    The stable hands/strappers are up at 3am or earlier to be on the job by 4am. They clean out stables, which is a dust-filled and health risking labouring task, then they have to take potentially dangerous horses to exercise on walking machines or swim pools. For a slight change of scene they get to take these same horses to trials or races. If the races are out of town a long ride in the back of the horse truck with no safety whatsoever is the lot of the worker. Races often fall on their day off, so some compo is supposed to be paid. Maybe, maybe not. Same goes for superannuation. Maybe paid, maybe not. Wages are not good, certainly not good for the arduousness of the tasking. Then for a “normal” day there’s the split shift.
    After the morning shift of 4am-9.30am approx. there’s a break until 2.30pm when the afternoon shift happens, more of the same until around 5.30pm.
    Back home by 6 if you’re lucky and it’s about 2 hours until you really need to get some sleep before the next early rise at anything from 2.30am onwards.
    Days off? Supposedly some afternoons and 1.5 days every second weekend – if you’re not having to go to the races again! Time off in lieu of race days is not happening. Just a bit of extra pay.

    It’s no wonder that only the desperate take the jobs.
    The person I know who does this hopes to become a trainer one day. I think they’re misguided to do it, but they know a lot about horses, love them, and might get there eventually. But that won’t be the end of the travails.

  146. calli

    especially if your own skin is a lighter shade of Dulux Hog Bristle

    I’m warming to Latham.

  147. Some History

    You may sense that I am somewhat aggrieved at this appointment.

    Understandably so. Mike Drab as West Strine of the year. Another wowser backslapping session – “You’re great. No, you’re great. No, you’re great”. Mike Drab, self-proclaimed “super-hero”, is the prohibitionists’ prohibitionist. He’s anti-tobacco, anti-alcohol, anti-gambling, anti-fat. He’s like the prohibitionists of early-1900s America.

    https://imgur.com/kKnBCPV

    For some background on Drab, see comments here:

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2018/03/26/monday-forum-march-26-2018/comment-page-2/#comment-2670952

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2016/02/26/what-is-it-with-government-and-dodgy-regressions/comment-page-1/#comment-1958462

  148. Nick

    Do your bit.

    Legacy Week 2018 could have saved Borneo in WW2?
    Wow!

  149. Oh come on

    I wonder why the socks come out to dance at the same time. Makes you wonder why it bothers denying its deeply weird carrying-on.

  150. Josh

    Buggered if I know how they sell this slop for north of a billion dollars every five years.

    Much hand-wringing in AFL circles this week with the announcement this years TV ratings are down 16%.
    Combined with the lowest scoring in 50 years, so fewer ads being shown to those still watching.

    If things can’t be corrected then polo-boy make be in for quite a haircut when the rights are next negotiated.

  151. calli

    There has been a “save the brumbies” movement for years which has seen many re-homed and becoming beautiful ponies for their adoptive families.

    Thanks Hero. I didn’t know that. I imagined they would be completely untameable.

  152. H B Bear

    Interesting Josh. At a quick guess I’d say the reason scoring is down is that half the 6’2 – 6’6 middle distance runners recruited to the ALPFL can’t kick.

  153. P

    woolfe
    #2726619, posted on June 2, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    woolfe I have this on CD. Love it.

    Sommertime:

    I fell in love with the number when I heard it in the film “Porgy and Bess” 1959/60.
    One day the film I hope will be shown again. I saw it at The Forum, George St, Sydney, end of ’59 or beginning of ’60,

    The 1959 movie version of the musical featured Loulie Jean Norman singing the song. That rendition finished at #52 in AFI’s 100 Years…100 Songs survey of top tunes in American cinema.
    Wikipedia

  154. In the Middle Ages, society had a long list of taboo terms, usually associated with witchcraft. In today’s politics, the Medieval Left has found it hard to shake off this habit.

    Did it really? Can we have this list of taboo terms.

  155. max

    Clive’s father is buried in the cemetery for the Allied dead in HK. He’s written a beautiful poem about visiting the grave there.

  156. P

    max #2726640, posted on June 2, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    Clive’s father is buried in the cemetery for the Allied dead in HK. He’s written a beautiful poem about visiting the grave there.

    Thank you Max, I didn’t know. These were not things those of 13 and 14 yrs of age discussed, particularly in those days.
    Thanks to you, Max, I’ve been able to find that of which you’ve written.

    It certainly is worth a look:
    My Father Before Me

  157. cohenite

    Colebatch’s great article in the Spectator about islam sex gangs in England and therein a metaphor of the decline of the West and capitulation of our ‘leaders’ has something in it which the censor rejects so here is the link:

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10155713761684370

  158. Shy Ted

    Mayo byelection: Turnbull rejects talk of Downer being out of touch with electorate
    “Georgina Downer is as much in touch with the electorate as I am,” announced the Prime Minister’ husband.

  159. None

    Blasphemy and religiously taboo terms were commonly censured in the Middle Ages, Dover, and could incur legal or social penalties. So even harmless swearing like ‘by Christ’s bones’ could get you into trouble and such terms were considered problematic not only because of the offence to god but also because of a perceived association with witchcraft. The old English law pcodes are full of such examples. In any case while I usually enjoy your post why not just set aside your narrow view of the world and just work with Latham on this for a moment? Maybe argue Latham’s point instead? Latham is not your enemy.

  160. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey, P. Time to take the Entry to Catallaxy oath.

    ‘I am not now and have never been a sock of the troll Grigory, who is an edjit and a fool.’

    Just say it, darling, and you’re in.

  161. rickw

    Stupid Arab just tried to ram Israeli troops in Hebron

    I believe shooting the guy was an ad-lib by Ford, the original script having an extended fight.

  162. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I always thought Clive James’ father was killed in a plane crash on his way back from internment in Japan. Clive mentions it in Unreliable Memoirs. Of course, they are unreliable. 🙂

  163. Chris

    Faugh. The stench of sox. Open a window, ffs.

  164. Oh come on

    Or the stench of pee?

    Same-same, I know.

  165. Snoopy

    I always thought Clive James’ father was killed in a plane crash on his way back from internment in Japan. Clive mentions it in Unreliable Memoirs.

    Being buried in HK is not inconsistent with this.

  166. cohenite

    Can we have this list of taboo terms.

    Here’s one:

  167. None

    Probably about the worst endorsements Turnbull could give for Georgina Downer. Even if true . They are both completely out of touch with the voting public. Georgina Downer also does not deserve to win Mayo as she has paid scant attention to it and she’s not anywhere near a liberal but just another smooth-talking lefty. Furthermore South Australia has suffered immeasurably from Dynasty politics at both the state and federal level and it does not need to return to that debacle.

  168. Confused Old Misfit

    None is correct. Talk in my part of the riding is that she hasn’t a hope. Conservatives being seen in a good light. But I’m in an agricultural area, not in the lah-de-dah elite communities of the My. Lofty range.

  169. P

    Faugh. The stench of sox. Open a window, ffs.

    Or the stench of pee?
    Same-same, I know.

    I simply just wonder why.

    Why?

    What in the hell have I done or said?

    To you or to anyone else here on Catallaxy ? ? ?

  170. None

    To cull or not to cull? Brumbies are destroying fragile alpine ecosystems. Killing brumbies is mean and barbaric.

    It’s Da Battle of Da Feelz.

    we kill pests and vermin all the time and the Brumbies are pests and vermin. Besides you could always hang one of their carcasses up in your local art gallery like ours has and call it art. Australia already has a glut of horses and unwanted horses. You will not be able to find enough homes for the Brumbies. Time for a call also time for a shark cull -shark makes good eating – and proper netting around swimming beaches.

  171. None

    That’s good news misfit I hope the la dee dahs also wake up. Were down on the plain among all the rusted on Laborites. It’s’s like a desert here.

  172. Mark A

    None
    #2726656, posted on June 2, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    You will not be able to find enough homes for the Brumbies.

    Same with retired greyhounds, None. Just too many of them.
    We had two, over the years and they are lovely pets, but now it’s just not practicable for us to keep any pets at all.

    The moggy is the last pet at the mo, and she won’t be until we move back to Melbourne permanently.

    PS if you want a horse, best have plenty of dosh and a friendly bank manger. Ask any horsey people.

  173. Mark A

    she won’t be until
    she won’t Replaced be until

  174. Boambee John

    None at 2154

    Time for a call also time for a shark cull -shark makes good eating – and proper netting around swimming beaches.

    “Experimental” nets were installed near Ballina (where there have been recent attacks) this summer. Most weeks the local news gave time to activists bleating about bycatch. I must have seen the same ray dangling in the nets a dozen separate times.

    It seems that the experiment will be deemed a failure, and “smart” drum lines will be the go, catch, tag and release. You can get an app to see which tagged sharks are nearby when you hit the water. Pity about the untagged ones.

    I notice that the nets remain in the water around Sydney, however. More valuable people there?

    NSW = Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong?

  175. Oh come on

    Time for a call also time for a shark cull -shark makes good eating

    Sure does. Lovely meaty shark fillets. Yum yum.

  176. None

    Smart drumlines are a waste of time. You don’t need nets up all the time either just over the swimming months. They work fine two decades until the love is got into positions of power. We’ve become a nation of spineless men and sexless women. Sterile. Ripe for dhimmitude.

  177. Oh come on

    According to the lead at Drudge:

    a particularly awkward logistical issue remains unresolved, according to two people familiar with the talks. Who’s going to pay for Kim Jong Un’s hotel stay?

    The prideful but cash-poor pariah state requires that a foreign country foot the bill at its preferred lodging: the Fullerton, a magnificent neoclassical hotel near the mouth of the Singapore River, where just one presidential suite costs more than $6,000 per night

    (…)

    When it comes to paying for lodging at North Korea’s preferred five-star luxury hotel, the United States is open to covering the costs, the two people said, but it’s mindful that Pyongyang may view a U.S. payment as insulting.

    Horse shit (which is, coincidentally, an occasional treat for most of the NK population). No. You don’t demand someone else pay your bills and then get ‘insulted’ when someone else pays your bills. This is not a cultural difference. The US is getting cucked by the Norks with this shit.

    Trump should shitcan the summit again, very publicly, on the strength of the Norks refusing to pay their bills. Watch the Norks come crawling back, begging for a seat at the table. Just as they did last time.

  178. None

    Agree Mark. It is money and a lot of space for a horse plus a lot of time.

  179. max

    Mark A, horse racing from Epsom on live Ch78 tonight.

    Quite comical the way racing pundits dress up in top hats and tails to walk the track with mike in hand.

  180. None

    Life of Brian – absolutely epic good fun.

  181. Bushkid

    calli
    #2726634, posted on June 2, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    There has been a “save the brumbies” movement for years which has seen many re-homed and becoming beautiful ponies for their adoptive families.

    Thanks Hero. I didn’t know that. I imagined they would be completely untameable.

    Calli, brumbies are very intelligent, having been born in the wild and growing up truly wild. Their senses seem sharper, but they’re also inquisitive, often far more trusting than you’d expect, and very fast learners. My work involves hoof trimming and body work on horses, and I love working with the brumbies that have been brought in. With quiet and thoughtful handling they learn who they can trust; and what can be a dangerous occupation with some (spoiled) “domesticated” horses, is a dream job with the brumbies. They’re also very loyal to a person who takes the time and trouble to work with them properly. If I needed any more horses, I’d have a brumby in a heartbeat.

  182. mareeS

    We in the West have a pretty good life. I like living it, as do the husband and the kids. So,why are people from inside and elsewhere intent on wrecking it?

    Speaking for myself, I like being fair-skinned, with an IQ of 135+, married to a man of,similar,and mother to similar, living in a pretty good place,and having had a pretty good business career.

    I do not want to live near losers who will break into our house with machetes and knives, steal our cars etc, or do that to our elderly neighbours.

    We have a choice, we have made it, we are happy about it, it doesn’t include Sydney or Melbourne.

  183. Bruce in WA

    Let’s be a bit fair to Mike Daube; he does have some lovely personality traits:

    • self-righteous
    • smug
    • self-aggrandizing
    • pompous
    • prohibitionist
    • nanny-statist
    • self-serving
    • elitist
    • killjoy
    • busybody
    • puffed up
    • control freak
    • POMMY WANKER!

  184. Top Ender

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2726579, posted on June 2, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    From our local news a nice story for Top Ender:

    Thanks Bruce – appreciated.

  185. Top Ender

    woolfe
    #2726622, posted on June 2, 2018 at 8:29 pm
    Just replaced my 35 year old NAD 3020 amp

    You twisted boy you….give me a ring next time and I’ll buy it…

  186. Baldrick

    Thank goodness the sock draw has been closed. I hate the smell of mothballs.

  187. Gab

    Well that’s really weird.

    I can access the Cat on one old laptop but not on the other one. I’ve been using the other one for months and suddenly tonight I couldn’t access the Cat.And I still can’t access it on my mobile either, as of tonight.

  188. JC

    I can’t recall who made the comment that Downer would not have spoken to the Americans unless he had the Okay from Canberra.

    I don’t know if Andrew McCarthy either disputes it directly, or perhaps is not concerned if Downer was free lancing or not, as this isn’t the big focus of this piece. However it sounds to me like Downer was actually free lancing when he spoke to the Americans. I very much doubt that if Downer had spoken about it to Canberra, they would have directed him to confer with the State Dept. Someone else would have done so and not Downer, possibly in the form of written notification.
    Here:

    As Strassel observes, the New York Times blockbuster report that touted the Papadopoulos–Downer meeting as the catalyst for the FBI’s Russia investigation does not actually say that Papadopoulos told Downer the Russians had emails. Moreover, Strassel’s reporting contradicts the suggestion floated by the Times and government officials that Downer reported Papadopoulos’s statements to Australian intelligence, which then passed them along to the FBI. Instead, Downer gave his information directly to . . . wait for it . . . the Obama State Department (that would be the State Department whose former boss was the Democratic nominee for president). This is consistent with House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes’s revelation that the FBI’s opening of a counterintelligence investigation was not predicated on any reporting from a foreign intelligence service.

    The last sentence is really important, because it appears to have been an orchestrated set up in order to obtain a FISA.

    Downer looks like he was in on it.

    That’s my read.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/george-papadopoulos-case-needs-closer-look/

  189. Top Ender

    Gab#2726679, posted on June 2, 2018 at 11:01 pm I can access the Cat on one old laptop but not on the other one. I’ve been using the other one for months and suddenly tonight I couldn’t access the Cat.

    Had the same thing tonight from about 630pm to 9pm…..no matter what bowser I used the Cat would not come up….

  190. egg_

    Georgina Downer also does not deserve to win Mayo as she has paid scant attention to it and she’s not anywhere near a liberal but just another smooth-talking lefty.

    She’s a regular on ABC TV Breakfast, so she obviously mustn’t stray too far off the Reservation.

  191. JC

    If anyone’s interested, The Atlanta Fed has a website with quasi live up dates on US GDP expectations. It’s worth “favoring” as it can be used whenever unsure where projections are.

    Since yesterdays’ non farm payroll stats, it’s shot up to 4.8%

  192. Gab

    I’m blaming Telstra, Top Ender.

  193. Gab

    Got your email, JC, many thanks. And have replied.

  194. JC

    Thanks Gab

    —————-

    Look, I love the fat fuck on twitter making lefties go mental. But he sometimes go way overboard and is a danger to himself. He needs to sometimes STFU and avoid fatmouthing.

    President Donald Trump tweeted about the May jobs report before its release Friday, in an unusual break from decades of protocol that sent bond yields and the value of the dollar higher.

    About an hour before the Labor Department released a report Friday morning showing the unemployment rate had fallen to its lowest level since April 2000, Mr. Trump said on Twitter he was “looking forward” to seeing the figures.

    The president had been briefed on the numbers Thursday evening, but they hadn’t yet been made public. Longstanding rules on sensitive economic data call for executive branch officials to withhold comment for at least an hour after figures are released.

    While Mr. Trump didn’t give any details on the data in his tweet, investors appeared to take his early comment as a signal that the data would be strong, figuring it was unlikely the president would tell Americans he was looking forward to a weak report.

    He’s his own worst enemy at times.

  195. jupes

    Downer looks like he was in on it.

    Don’t fret JC, an Australian investigative journalist will be on to this before you can say “Hold the front page”.

  196. Zyconoclast

    Gab#2726679, posted on June 2, 2018 at 11:01 pm I can access the Cat on one old laptop but not on the other one. I’ve been using the other one for months and suddenly tonight I couldn’t access the Cat.

    Had the same thing tonight from about 630pm to 9pm…..no matter what bowser I used the Cat would not come up….

    #metoo

  197. JC

    Good piece:

    Apparently Obama had read a column—I have an idea of which one—about the role of identity in shaping peoples’ lives and political choices. “Maybe we pushed too far,” he mused. “Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe.” No question his fellow passengers that day reassured him that no, no, he did everything he could to bend the arc of history a little more toward justice. It’s not your fault, Mr. President. You didn’t push too far. All you did was troll Donald Trump into running for president in the first place, stand by while Ferguson and Baltimore rioted and burned, give Iran billions in exchange for empty promises, allow Russia to establish a beachhead in the Middle East for the first time in half a century, browbeat Israel at every opportunity, ram through Obamacare after Scott Brown’s election in Massachusetts, preside over the mass migration of children across the southern border in 2014, expand the DACA amnesty despite saying 22 times you lacked authority to do so, use the permanent structure of government to devastate the Appalachian economy, convince half of America that liberals were ready to take their guns (this wasn’t hard to do), have your Education Department issue orders that led to the campus-assault craze and the deterioration of classroom discipline and that, months before a presidential election, mandated trans-bathrooms in schools, have your Justice Department preside over a sloppy (I’m being charitable) investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server that included, at one point, your attorney general secretly meeting with the husband of the subject of the investigation on an airport tarmac, muscle out Joe Biden, who might have won, from the race, and hand the party back to the less-likable half of America’s most polarizing and corrupt political couple. Not to mention the eight years of lecturing. Oh, the lecturing.

    http://freebeacon.com/columns/the-world-as-it-wasnt/

  198. Leo G

    Had the same thing tonight from about 630pm to 9pm…..no matter what browser I used the Cat would not come up….
    #metoo

    There appears to be changes in the Cat’s Registry information- Domain status etc.

  199. Zyconoclast

    Apologies to Tom, look what I found

    THE WEEK IN PICTURES: PRIVACY UPDATE EDITION

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/the-week-in-pictures-privacy-update-edition.php

  200. Mark A

    max
    #2726669, posted on June 2, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    Mark A, horse racing from Epsom on live Ch78 tonight.

    Quite comical the way racing pundits dress up in top hats and tails to walk the track with mike in hand.

    Yeah, they like to dress up. I have to use VPN to watch the races from here, the Euro-weenies are banning any dog or horse racing in this part. Funny because they have races in Germany, Sweden and France, but don’t allow betting outside of their jurisdiction or even letting you watch them.

  201. Mark A

    Thanks Tom.
    Do I detect a certain rivalry here from Zyco?
    Zyko, unless you can deliver better goods reliably every day on the dot, like Tom does, I ask you to cease and desist.

  202. Herodotus

    A bit more about horse racing.
    Further to my spray above about employing backpackers. I’m reading Les Carlyon’s book about horse racing, a collection of his columns from the 1980s/90s called True Grit.
    There are two important aspects of training. Fitness and health are important, but so is the relationship between horse and handlers. The best trainers know this, and are meticulous in how their horses are treated.
    A good stable hand/strapper establishes trust with the horses and makes sure that they are not upset by the many things that can upset a horse. An ordinary hand will not be sensitive to these things, will not work out what it is that’s causing behaviour, and at worst will hit or jerk the horse around and destroy that trust, perhaps introducing head shyness or other pathologies.
    Bad handling can have disastrous results on those infernal walking machines that they use daily, or in the swim pool.
    On race day it’s vital that the horse gets to the track and does its waiting in a calm fashion. The parade conceals a lot of management that,s going on, from one who always wants to be at the front of the pack, or another who’s about to shy at someone flapping some item over the fence. Some don’t like the tunnel.
    Employing backpackers to shovel shit might get that job done, but a top racing stable needs good people in every position. The pay and conditions mitigate against this.

  203. rickw

    To cull or not to cull? Brumbies are destroying fragile alpine ecosystems. Killing brumbies is mean and barbaric.

    The premise is a lie. 100 years of cattle grazing put an end to any “fragile” alpine ecosystem that couldn’t cut it.

    The cattle should go back in and the horses should be brought out.

  204. rickw

    Time for a call also time for a shark cull -shark makes good eating

    Gey nurse sharks first?

  205. Entropy

    I had the original NAD 3020. Great little amp. Looked nothing like the modern digital one of course. It got stolen while I was in east Berlin in late 1989. I replaced it with a NAD 7050, which the digital equivalent today also looks nothing like.

    I used to be quite obsessive about music, but having years of kids listening to wiggles through my Kefs has just sucked it out of me. I am happy enough with a JBL Bluetooth stereo these days.

  206. Eyrie

    “The cattle should go back in and the horses should be brought out.”
    +1, rickw

  207. Eyrie

    We need a greenie cull.

  208. egg_

    ABC Breakfast seasonal scaremongering on Sea Surface Temperatures on Montebello Islands causing coral bleaching

    CAGW is now toxic News, so they just report selective climate propaganda?

  209. Farmer Gez

    Speaking of ecological damage, it has always puzzled me as to why the Dingo is given a pass in the feral species list.
    They’ve been here three thousand years or so but aren’t native. How much damage did they do to fauna when they arrived? Killing the young of big slow moving fauna must have fed these dogs pretty well.
    According to Wiki they are not depicted in rock art as much as Thylacines. Did they wipe out the tiger on the mainland?

  210. Entropy

    “Experimental” nets were installed near Ballina (where there have been recent attacks) this summer. Most weeks the local news gave time to activists bleating about bycatch. I must have seen the same ray dangling in the nets a dozen separate times.

    It seems that the experiment will be deemed a failure, and “smart” drum lines will be the go, catch, tag and release. You can get an app to see which tagged sharks are nearby when you hit the water. Pity about the untagged ones.

    I was down at lighthouse beach at Christmas time. You could see the shark net buoys about 500m out. I reckon the ‘experiment’ is actually designed to fail. The net doesn’t cover the whole beach, just the end near the surf club. There is no net down near the breakwater where all the surfers have been taken.
    So anyway, I was at the surf club restaurant and was greatly entertained by watching the reaction of a sea kayaker who got surrounded by a pod of dolphins inside the net.

  211. Entropy

    I would also observe that the number of people at lighthouse beach is very small compared with the numbers that would spend all day there when I was a kid.

  212. calli

    I read your post on the brumby taming with great interest, Bushkid. You learn something new here every day.

    Regards, Citykid 🙂

  213. calli

    We need a greenie cull.

    Nutribullet them.

  214. egg_

    Thank goodness the sock draw has been closed

    Again, note the regular coincidental absenteeism at such times, i.e. the ‘friendly’* socks who come to the rescue like clockwork.
    *Sans ‘character slip’.
    /Yawn

  215. egg_

    Glossy black cockatoos eat casuarina?
    I’ll bet they were far more plentiful in the past, per Lake George &c. pollen sediment record.
    /Abo burning = @#$%! eucalypts

  216. struth

    Yes and in Arnhem land the Northern Land Mafia council tell me I must drive through sacred areas I must not even photograph let alone dare to tread on with my Rossis filled with white man feet.
    Yet herds of Buffalo pass before me as I dodge their thousands of turds while driving ( buffalo turds are massive) dingos, bentang cattle, cane toads flattened and all the while it seems these sacred areas are fine for those of black skin to drive cars through , wreck them and leave them in the middle of the track with rubbish everywhere.

    What a fergun joke.
    Thank god I’m out soon.

  217. egg_

    Yes and in Arnhem land the Northern Land Mafia council tell me I must drive through sacred areas I must not even photograph let alone dare to tread on with my Rossis filled with white man feet.
    Yet herds of Buffalo pass before me as I dodge their thousands of turds while driving ( buffalo turds are massive) dingos, bentang cattle, cane toads flattened and all the while it seems these sacred areas are fine for those of black skin to drive cars through , wreck them and leave them in the middle of the track with rubbish everywhere.

    Now, they’re letting part of the Riverina wetlands go feral?

  218. calli

    First Peoples have taken on magical, juju status in the minds of the Bugpeople.

    Inevitable really.

  219. Entropy

    I am sure the concept of sacred Arnhem Land seems just wonderful if you live in Melbourne, Canberra or Sydney, Struth.

  220. egg_

    Yank commentator on ABC TV Breakfast: US economy booming but Trump’s alienation of allies ‘dangerous’ longterm.
    /Yawn

  221. Rae

    I can’t recall who made the comment that Downer would not have spoken to the Americans unless he had the Okay from Canberra.

    C.L.

  222. egg_

    they’re letting part of the Riverina wetlands go feral?

    If there were any academic honesty in the country, it would be interesting to contrast black/white land management.

  223. egg_

    If there were any academic honesty in the country, it would be interesting to contrast black/white land management.

    Karmic that century old Mt Stromlo observatory was roasted at 650C, melting aluminium and leaving rusting hulks.

  224. rickw

    In Guam, loads of Japanese families on holiday, Japan might have some demographic problems, but nothing that two weeks without I phones wouldn’t fix.

    They are so lucky that no matter what shade their politicians are, there are few that would sell their country out to international interests. Thus they have avoided the great threat that most countries are succumbing to, immigration by third world savages.

  225. Rae

    Apologies to Tom, look what I found

    THE WEEK IN PICTURES: PRIVACY UPDATE EDITION

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/the-week-in-pictures-privacy-update-edition.php

    Not nice, Zyco.

  226. egg_

    Yank commentator on ABC TV Breakfast: US economy booming but Trump’s alienation of allies ‘dangerous’ longterm.

    Also: Trump being seduced into making a ‘deal’ with the Norks, leave it to the diplomats.

    Now on rotation on Breakfast.

  227. struth

    I just find the crocs around the communities too lazy for my liking.

    But the very worst place in Arnhem land is Nhulunbuy.
    Filled with old white skanks with lanyards , in meetings from some taxpayer funded org or another that who in saner times would be making cakes and looking after the grandkids, but now have the weight of the aboriginal world on their shoulders since they actually met an “artist” last Tuesday.
    Filled with this unquestionable deep and now profound knowledge of aboriginal Australia they meet regularly in resorts of four or five stars that hang aboriginal art in the foyer, to discuss ways to fleece the taxpayer to be able to continue to do so.

  228. rickw

    Yank commentator on ABC TV Breakfast: US economy booming but Trump’s alienation of allies ‘dangerous’ longterm.

    We could be living without toilet paper and roasting stray cats and the scum at the ABC will be still whining about Trump. Hopefully we will reach full Venestrailia during Trumps next term.

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