Open Forum: June 2, 2018

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  1. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She did not flag or fail, she persisted.

    Will there be a candlelight vigil?

  2. Dr Faustus

    We certainly hope for success, but Mr. Trump will have to be prepared for the consequences if Kim is merely there for the show.

    As, indeed, will Kim Jong Haircut.

  3. calli

    That’s hilarious, lotocoti.

    It’s a two and three-quarter hour journey, with two stops. The Spectre of Starvation prowling every platform.

    Shades of Christine Nixon.

  4. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2726998, posted on June 3, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    I actually do know Australian Taxation Law. I doubt that you do.

    Grigs my little numpty f$ckwit, you don’t even know how to stay the f$ck off a website when the owner bans you.
    You can’t even decide who you want to be.
    Your word and your opinions are worth less than a special in this month’s Aldi catalogue.
    And that is cheap as f$ck.

    Stimpmeister, the technical term is cacoëthes carpendi, not numpty f$ckwit.

    I thought you ought to know. It’s a mental aberration.

  5. H B Bear

    Careful calli some people are a bit sensitive about this stuff.

  6. egg_

    Good to see superannuated geriatric j’ismist Quentin Dumpster still on the front line defending the staff co-op from the latest threats to its continued existence. He fits right in with the Friends of the ALPBC demographic of 70 yo lesbians, men who look like old lesbians, Subaru drivers and retired school teachers.

    Their Undead Dumpster and Red Kezza defending Aunty.

  7. Makka

    We certainly hope for success, but Mr. Trump will have to be prepared for the consequences if Kim is merely there for the show.

    Highly doubtful. Trump has already kicked sand in the Phat Phuc’s face once. I doubt Kim wants to be humiliated twice.

    Trump has already stated he has no expectations for the meeting beyond opening a dialogue, beginning a process. That’s the best approach. Kim knows he’s coming to the table with his begging bowl. He also knows that Trump is kicking his protector Kim in the nuts relentlessly over trade. Which leaves Kim very exposed. I’m sure he will be on his best behaviour.

  8. Makka

    He also knows that Trump is kicking his protector Xi the nuts relentlessly over trade.

  9. Rae

    When playing Zero D chess one should always wear a protector.

  10. H B Bear

    Yeah Red Kazza fighting the good fight from the stronghold of the socialist battler, Byron Bay.

    Comrades!

  11. John Constantine

    The lefty activists of Australia support a treaty protecting the cultural rights of indigenous Australians, and support the kiwi treaty with the indigenous New Zealanders.

    The indigenous people of England however don’t get a treaty for their culture, they get genocide and cultural Marxism.

    Why not the same standards for both groups of indigenous?.

    Is there really that heavy a war of colonisation going on that the complete genocide of the english indigenous is the only possible outcome?.

    Comrades?.

  12. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2726886, posted on June 3, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Mueller’s lastest leak to his controllers at the New York Times is an egregious illustration of his utter corruption.

    No. It was leaked by Trump’s team because they want applause for their legal arguments.

    Of course, because everyone knows the NYT would never betray a Team Trump source.

  13. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpmeister, the technical term is cacoëthes carpendi, not numpty f$ckwit.

    It’s actually Sinc’s term, not mine.
    I would never use such hurtful terminology myself, but it is his site after all and we must respect his wishes and opinions.

  14. mh

    Democrats were outraged when president Trump pardoned conservative author, documentarian, and commentator Dinesh D’Souza for campaign finance fraud. Many believe that Dinesh was punished more harshly than others who have committed the same crime and his charge was enhanced to a felony unprecedentedly. Outspoken Trump critic Rosie O’Donell was caught recently committing the same campaign finance violation numerous times and has yet to be charged.

  15. Egor

    “the male, who then proceeding to kill himself by trying to run through fence time & time again, to get get to the females.
    Next buck he bought was housed at another of his farms a few kms away.
    That buck died of a heart attack running around the paddock when the females were on heat, even though they were a few kms away.”

    Must be city deer. Buck? They must be fallow deer.
    Wild NZ Red deer are going to die laughing when they hear about another unfit Aussie.
    Red deer are amongst the most adaptable animals on earth from tropics to NZ winters they thrive. That’s a hint.

  16. Top Ender

    Well, took the plunge and booked for three weeks in January in the USA.

    Have visited the USA before for work but have never been to Texas. It will be winter, but we figured if we hug the border (but no hugging Mexicans) we might be OK.

    Amtrak is going to be the travel provider.

    I will of course be checking out the Alamo and having a chat with Lord Nelson while there.

  17. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    Be sure to catch up with General Custer.

  18. John Constantine

    http://www.invergowrie.org.au/news/chairmans-report/

    https://homes.nine.com.au/2018/05/23/13/57/ex-australia-post-boss-ahmed-fahour-lists-hawthorne-estate-with-44-million-hopes

    Invergowrie was sold in the early nineties and the money put into a trust, there is a reference to a three million dollar initial startup amount in the report so we shall take a stab at that being a ballpark sale price, only guesswork.

    From 3 million to 44 million in 25 years, but we tip the biggest price surge has come recently in the later years of the population property Ponzi.

    The confidence factor of the Ponzi becomes shaky when the suckers can doubt for even a minute that exponential growth has ceased, and only grinding small growth remains.

    Will ahmeds house find a buyer that doesn’t care that his 44 million dollar punt won’t double to 88 million in five years?.

    If Big yarragrad does boom to 20 million proles in 20 years, will the house be a half billion dollar castle among the underclass?.

    Is their Ponzi as rock solid as their turnbullites unswerving commitment to an Australia so Big that we don’t have to own cars anymore?.

    Comrades?.

  19. Rae

    Democrats were outraged when president Trump pardoned conservative author, documentarian, and commentator Dinesh D’Souza for campaign finance fraud.

    Maybe. But, both Democrats and Republicans make too big a fuss of a Presidential pardon, which is really just a gesture that says to a felon “I forgive you”. That’s all. The D’Souza conviction still stands, as does the $30,000 fine, the 6 months incarceration and 5 years probation.

  20. Death Giraffe

    For Stimpson’s sake I have changed my gravatar to a photo I just took of a couple of filthy porpoises I found in the garage.
    Naturally I hit them repeatedly with a hammer and covered them in grey primer and blue filler before sanding back their fishy hides.

  21. calli

    I’m in Texas for two weeks this November, TE. Doing a road trip starting in Boulder, Colorado – booked a nice little Rav 4 to hold all the shopping, plus an extra suitcase for the return journey. Might make it two.

    I will report on the glories of Trumplandia as I go.

  22. calli

    Be sure to catch up with General Custer.

    We’re swinging by Little Bighorn and the Alamo. Just to make sure.

  23. Dr Faustus

    The lefty activists of Australia support a treaty protecting the cultural rights of indigenous Australians

    Michael Mansell has a very clear view of the cultural rights that must be protected by the Treaty:

    – Return all crown lands to Aboriginal people;
    – Guarantee an amount of money each year for maintaining those lands, most likely
    $10m [$10m? Surely some mistake?];
    – Establish seats in the Tasmanian parliament for Aboriginal elected politicians;
    – One Senator in the Federal parliament elected by Aboriginal people;
    – Ownership of forests, minerals and other natural resources;
    – Powers of local government on Cape Barren, mutton bird islands and crown lands
    dealing with land use planning, land use and resource ownership;
    – Meaningful and enforceable rights to approve education of children.

    At least there is no humbuggery with Mr Mansell.
    From the heart.

  24. Death Giraffe

    How do you change your gravatar settings so people can hover over the image and it gets bigger?

  25. Delta A

    Careful calli some people are a bit sensitive about this stuff.

    Bear, please accept my heartfelt apology for misinterpreting your triumph the other night. My speed reading isn’t always as accurate these days.

    You were indeed a very clever bear.

  26. Stimpson J. Cat

    How do you change your gravatar settings so people can hover over the image and it gets bigger?

    No, actually that one looks like a dead Grey Nurse Shark.

  27. DrBeauGan

    Death Giraffe
    #2727062, posted on June 3, 2018 at 3:46 pm
    How do you change your gravatar settings so people can hover over the image and it gets bigger?

    On a phone, if you click and hold on the gravatar, you get an opt to view the image, Death, then you can enlarge it by swiping. This allows you to discover that the resolution is so bad that you can just make out two dead fish on top of a chessboard.

    Hope this helps. 😁

  28. old bloke

    The country was “deer park” open, to quote Watkin Tench, because Aborigines burned it. It’s an impenetrable, blackberry-choked green wall now because they don’t.

    I doubt that Watkin Tench was referring to the Australian Alps as I doubt that anyone had explored the high country till well after Tench sailed back to England (in 1791).

  29. Death Giraffe

    No it dors not, BG.

  30. nemkat

    Apart from the Arrente, all the known Aboriginal Tribes had a Matrilineal System of Kinship.

    I find it a bit hard to believe that at the time of First Contact for these people, their leaders were Elderly mudgutted men with an excess of Estrogen like Noel Pearson or Pat Dodson.
    Elders might be a popular idea in some other cultures, but I can’t see much of a role for them in a Society where there was no rank, and no one wore clothes.

    I mean, can you imagine Dodson or Pearson without clothes?
    People would laugh til they collapsed.

  31. Geriatric mayfly

    Doctors’ Wives, H B Bear. Where would the ABC be without them?

  32. Roger

    Michael Mansell has a very clear view of the cultural rights that must be protected by the Treaty:

    We really should hope that our governments, at the behest of self-appointed aboriginal leaders, do try to foist all this upon us. It could foment the anti-revolution we need to destroy cultural Marxism.

  33. miltonf

    TE The Alamo is an easy walk from Amtrak San Antonio. Truly wonderful.

  34. numpty f$ckwit

    How about:

    “Thoughts wafting up from the eviscerated corpse of roadkill on a summers* day.”

     
    * hottest evah!

  35. Delta A

    A question for savvy Cats: I have just installed Epic Privacy Browser to try to restrict tracking and reduce cookies. It intermittently pops up a box telling how many trackers have been blocked. These vary on Catallaxy – up to 8 – but go up to 30 plus on Yahoo, The $Oz and similar.

    They also appear when I do Internet banking: four (plus) trackers blocked when I insert the password. Where would these originate? How do they have access to a supposedly secure log on?

  36. Doctors’ Wives, H B Bear. Where would the ABC be without them?

    Still overstaffed. (I include Barry in this)

  37. OneWorldGovernment

    Rae
    #2726995, posted on June 3, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    So you don’t know Australian Taxation Law!

    I actually do know Australian Taxation Law. I doubt that you do.

    Then I’m pleased for you Rae.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We really should hope that our governments, at the behest of self-appointed aboriginal leaders, do try to foist all this upon us. It could foment the anti-revolution we need to destroy cultural Marxism.

    I’m remembering the uproar that resulted as a result of the Barunga Statement of 1988, and the release of the terms of the draft Treaty then – that led to the whole idea being quietly dropped, for the time.

  39. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Is there really that heavy a war of colonisation going on that the complete genocide of the english indigenous is the only possible outcome?.

    not just the english but all europeans

  40. Snoopy

    Poverty in the United States is extensive and deepening under the Trump administration whose policies seem aimed at removing the safety net from millions of poor people, while rewarding the rich, a UN human rights investigator has found.

    Philip Alston, UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty, called on US authorities to provide solid social protection and address underlying problems, rather than “punishing and imprisoning the poor”.

    This Australian commo UN xunt should be stripped naked, smeared liberally with olive oil, and left trussed up in an Istanbul bathhouse.

  41. nemkat

    If you’re fair dinkum about resisting this Treaty madness, then Turnbull is your man.
    The rest, especially Tony Abbott, can’t wait for it to become Law.

  42. miltonf

    Good song areff- I recall that was a row of touristy sort of shops. I thought San Antonio was rather good.

    So they are starting to ramp up the US poverty thing which was ignored under Barry O’Bama. Richard’s brother too.

  43. H B Bear

    Please Delta don’t apologize. It’s unbecoming and has no place on the Cat.

  44. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    McGowan urges PM to ‘show us the money’

    Australian Associated Press
    3:24PM June 3, 2018

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will reportedly announce an 80-cent GST floor for Western Australia, but the premier says he will believe it when he sees it.

    Mr Turnbull will take his solution to the GST revenue distribution formula to cabinet shortly, and is expected to announce it at the Liberal state conference in Perth on August 11, The Sunday Times reports.

    The top-up, which would provide WA with an additional $5 billion over three years, would come from consolidated revenue in a bid to appease Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland.

    “Show us the money. No more promises, no more talk, actually do it and provide it immediately … we’ll believe it when we see it,” Mr McGowan told reporters in Perth on Sunday.

    The federal government is currently considering the Productivity Commission’s review of the GST formula.

    From the Oz. Must never upset the mendicant States, must we?

  45. Baldrick

    I have just installed Epic Privacy Browser

    Not sure about Epic Privacy Browser Delta, never used it.
    I use Ghostery to block trackers and data miners.

  46. Mark from Melbourne

    Manhattan Contrarian has some real information on poverty and income inequality.

    It’s worth a read… as is all his stuff.

  47. Delta A

    Please Delta don’t apologize. It’s unbecoming and has no place on the Cat.

    Sorry, Bear. Don’t know what got into me there.

    BTW, toughen up you precious snowflake petal!

  48. areff

    Milton: Asleep at the Wheel also do a nice ‘Alamo Roll Call in the Sky’

  49. Delta A

    Thanks, Baldy. But can you explain how/why trackers are found on a secure login to a banking site?

  50. Delta A

    And who/what are the eight trackers mooching around the Catallaxy Files?

  51. Roger

    The top-up, which would provide WA with an additional $5 billion over three years, would come from consolidated revenue in a bid to appease Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland.

    Thank heavens for that commodity price windfall, eh Scott?

  52. Rae

    Thanks, OWG. I’m pleased you’re pleased.

  53. Nick

    Who cares if Trump’s meeting with Kim turns into a sideshow ? Imagine the media’s moistness if Obama had even just met Kim ?

  54. Nick

    And who/what are the eight trackers mooching around the Catallaxy Files?

    Septimus.org?

  55. JC

    Jeez Wow!

    Nearly 30 FBI officials involved in Clinton probe are hoping to be served federal subpoena so they can expose behind-the-scenes corruption in handling of Hillary email investigation – Fox

    Comey’s in a spot of trouble if this is true. I think he’ll point the finger at Brennan if it gets worse.

  56. H B Bear

    Why the fvck is the Pony Club a net recipient of GST? The two Tasmanias are obviously failed States and the NT is just a running joke.

  57. Stimpson J. Cat

    Who cares if Trump’s meeting with Kim turns into a sideshow ? Imagine the media’s moistness if Obama had even just met Kim ?

    You know you are doing a fantastic job of being President when the biggest two Kims in the world are desperate to meet you.
    #winning

  58. None

    Rae
    #27256995, posted on June 3, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    So you don’t know Australian Taxation Law!

    I actually do know Australian Taxation Law. I doubt that you do.

    So Rae the troll is a public servant who steals time and money to spend all day commenting here instead of working. Mmmkay.

  59. JC;

    Nearly 30 FBI officials involved in Clinton probe are hoping to be served federal subpoena so they can expose behind-the-scenes corruption in handling of Hillary email investigation – Fox

    Wow.
    Just wow.
    The boil has been lanced, but the pus just continues to run out….

  60. Geriatric mayfly

    Philip Alston, UN special rapporteur on extreme poverty,

    These rapporteur thingies are like a plague of locusts? How many of these ne’er-do-wells are there I wonder. When they fan out from the swarm they always appear to land in places where the green grass lies. Few, if any, ever turn up in the political wildernesses, among those that genuinely suffer, which are much more deserving of their oversight and busy-body pontifications. None snoop around corners where there is the slightest risk to their physical well being.

  61. Delta A

    I use Ghostery to block trackers and data miners.

    My tech expert ( 🙂 ) is checking out Ghostery as I write, Baldy. One advantage he’s found is that it loads more programs – The $Oz, for example (until my subscription expires) – and so it means less fiddling around.

    OTOH, it didn’t block as many trackers on Yahoo and The $Oz.

    He’s still happily working on it. Thanks for providing his evening entertainment.

  62. Baldrick

    And who/what are the eight trackers mooching around the Catallaxy Files?

    No sure about the banking site Delta but according to Ghostery there are 4 trackers on Catallaxy.
    Google Analytics, WordPress Stats, Facebook Social Graph and Gravatar.

  63. cohenite

    Australian tax law: you earn money and you pay tax unless you can get away with not paying.

    Electric cars are a joke; coming from turdball the man who gave us the $15 lightbulb and will ban incandescent globes soon. The original incandescent globe is still running.

  64. Fisky

    Tariffs cripple the country that implements them. You should always get rid of tariffs. This is classic economics.

    Lol, that must be why the US economy completely collapsed in the 19th century when they imposed massive tariffs.

  65. Peter Castieau

    Since the change to the senate voting rules we have only had a double D election of the upper house.

    Have any clever Cats done some predictions of a likely senate outcome in a normal half senate election?

  66. Steve trickler

    A clever piece of story telling.

    The Soldier and Death. 1989.



  67. marcus classis

    Pete D.
    #2726979, posted on June 3, 2018 at 1:14 pm
    At last; a Greenie fraud has been exposed. Half the garbage that comes from the mouths of greenies is unsubstantiated , 40 % is outright lies and maybe 10% is actually true or factual or even sensible. …………. Shit!. I can’t believe I said that.
    Background. Some spiv yank greenie lawyer actually sued Chevron in 2011 for damage to the environment to the tune of $18 billion. Yes BILLION.
    Chevron said “stuff this” or words to that effect and eventually thru legal means was able to obtain documents, of the plaintiff in the original case, which showed massive fraud, lies and bribery.
    Now Chevron has been awarded $38 million in damages plus costs and the original decision has been overturned.
    Some enterprising “playwrights” have even taken the story to stage.
    MORE OF THE GREENIE FRAUD HERE.
    THE PLAYWRIGHTS ON THEIR PLAY
    God I love it when idiots fall flat on their faces.

    Thanks Pete D, very interesting.

  68. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thank heavens for that commodity price windfall, eh Scott?

    Might help avert an electoral annihilation here in the Wild West, eh, Scott?

  69. Bruce in WA

    The original incandescent globe is still running.

    The incandescent globe over my wife’s clothesline is the one that was with the house when we bought it — 22 years ago.

    Doesn’t even have a cover or protective shade. Still going.

  70. Top Ender

    For Cats with an interest in military history, I have an article in the latest edition of Quadrant.

    It is a new assessment of the Japanese air raids on northern Australia in WWII, and shows the extent of the raids was greater than previously thought.

  71. H B Bear

    Might help avert an electoral annihilation here in the Wild West, eh, Scott?

    Too late for that me thinks. Although people might have settled down a bit after gap-toothed megalomaniac Emperor Barney and most of the State Lieborals have been turfed.

  72. Delta A

    BTW, Baldy, you’re sounding stronger and better every day. (Tell your cardiologist next visit: you have the Cat tick of approval for recovery.) We’re all very happy about this.

    If – and I’m sure you do – you have private health cover, you will be receiving calls from your provider offering dietary and exercise programs. Best Man found them very helpful until they started suggesting no this, no that – even coffee, which has lately earned a tick of approval. In the end, he said that while he is very grateful – and of course he wants to stay alive for as long as possible – his enjoyment of life is, for him, determined by quality, not quantity, of time.

  73. Boambee John

    Khartoum on the telly.

    I’m still waiting for the station manager with the cojones to show El Cid.

  74. Top Ender

    the NT is just a running joke

    But think how it could be if it was freed up from silliness and went to market. It could have massive uranium mines shipping stuff all over the world, and its own nuclear power stations selling power to Qld, WA and SA via long extension cords.

  75. Boambee John

    Delta at 1735

    If – and I’m sure you do – you have private health cover, you will be receiving calls from your provider offering dietary and exercise programs. Best Man found them very helpful until they started suggesting no this, no that – even coffee, which has lately earned a tick of approval.

    During the rehab course at the local public hospital, I confused the dietician by asking her what was the minimum quantity of chocolate we should eat daily. Used to being asked the maximum, it took her a while to get back on script.

    Small things …

  76. Peter Castieau

    The NT could go well if it wasn’t for HFE dealt out GST by the CGC in what is otherwise state sponsored socialism.

    At the moment, mendicancy is rewarded before effort.

  77. OldOzzie

    Top Ender
    #2727053, posted on June 3, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Well, took the plunge and booked for three weeks in January in the USA.

    I will of course be checking out the Alamo and having a chat with Lord Nelson while there.

    While in San Antonio, I would recommend the Riverwalk – great place to relax and great restaurants on the Riverwalk

  78. Have any clever Cats done some predictions of a likely senate outcome in a normal half senate election?

    PHON, Xlophone and PUP leftovers join the queue at centrelink.

  79. cohenite

    Have any clever Cats done some predictions of a likely senate outcome in a normal half senate election?

    I hope Roberts gets back in.

  80. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For Cats with an interest in military history, I have an article in the latest edition of Quadrant.

    Thanks for that, Top Ender, I’m waiting for my dead tree copy, with interest.

  81. Baldrick

    Delta A
    #2727126, posted on June 3, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    Thanks Delta. Yes, I’m awaiting the barrage from my private health provider.
    It’ll a NO to lentil burgers and a big YES to a Ching Chong burger.

  82. Leo G

    Rae posted on June 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    But, both Democrats and Republicans make too big a fuss of a Presidential pardon, which is really just a gesture that says to a felon “I forgive you”. That’s all. The D’Souza conviction still stands, as does the $30,000 fine, the 6 months incarceration and 5 years probation.

    No, a full US presidential pardon removes the judgment and the legal consequences flowing from the judgment. A full pardon absolves a person from all legal consequences of a crime and restores all the offender’s civil rights.
    A pardon granted after conviction removes the penalties and disabilities that follow a conviction.

  83. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’ll a NO to lentil burgers and a big YES to a Ching Chong burger.

    The latest in the uproar.

    But the owner, John Wong, allegedly said the burger name was not intended to offend, and the words were chosen because they mean “authentic” or “original”.

  84. Tom

    The two Tasmanias are obviously failed States

    Obviously. But the solution is staring us in the face:

    … a big YES to a Ching Chong burger.

  85. OldOzzie

    Building executives endorsing errant unionists undermine ABCC – Grace Collier

    Fancy lining up for a scrap of rotten cabbage before engaging in a fight to the death with your neighbours over it? To most people, Venezuela is regarded as a tragedy, a once-wealthy country that is now a failure, a socialist disaster in the grip of a humanitarian crisis. In fact, according to our government travel site, Venezuela should be avoided like the plague.

    Violent crime — murder, armed robbery, kidnapping, drive-by shooting and carjacking — is endemic. There are frequent shortages of basic foods, medicines and other items. Long queues for basic necessities can lead to protests, fighting and theft. Electricity is sometimes rationed, including without warning.

    To Vinnie Molina, though, Venezuela is an inspiration. Molina is the president of the West Australian branch of the Construction Forestry Maritime Mining and Energy Union (CFMMEU) and the president of the Communist Party of Australia. He recently put out a statement on the CPA website sending “heartiest congratulations to the people of Venezuela on their decision to re-elect President Nicolas Maduro and to stay on the path taken with the triumph of the Bolivarian Revolution in 1998”.

    Indeed, an election recently has been held in Venezuela and, while people are starving, residents are fleeing the country and there are serious allegations about the integrity of the election process, Molina says, “President Maduro’s part in this victory is plain and is also deserving”, although “there is no time to celebrate”. Instead, “it is time to govern and make the overdue changes to deepen the movement towards socialism”.

    Molina was in Venezuela for the election, officially representing the CFMMEU. In his CPA post titled “The Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela shall overcome!”, Molina said Venezuelan workers he spoke to were “horrified to hear of the struggle faced by construction workers in Australia”, particularly regarding the “anti-union” Australian Building and Construction Commission.

    However, readers may be horrified to hear of the struggle faced by the ABCC in its efforts to clean up the construction sector. In particular, you are invited to consider the actions of certain businesspeople who, in legal proceedings, stood against the ABCC and shoulder to shoulder with the CFMMEU.

    Recently the ABCC tried to stop Molina from holding a licence that allows him unfettered access to business premises. Since 2012, Molina has been fined almost $17,000 for various infractions. In February this year, the ABCC intervened in proceedings before the Fair Work Commission to have his “right of entry card” denied.

    In an extraordinary move, managers at some of our largest construction firms opposed the ABCC move and sided with Molina, giving him glowing character references that made him out as the nicest bloke ever.

    Trevor Dobson, human resources/industrial relations manager at Salini Australia, gave evidence that Molina always provided the required notice of any proposed entries, always observed the security and safety requirements and co-operated with all personnel.

    Jovan Bacovic, senior site manager for buildings by Lendlease, gave evidence that he had dealt with Molina for more than 15 years and had always found him to be friendly, polite and legally compliant.

    Joe Passione, the managing director of Prime, gave evidence that he had known Molina in a personal and professional capacity for more than 15 years and that he always complied with his obligations.

    Anthony Tartaglia, senior site manager of PACT Construction, who has been employed by several leading construction companies during the past 20 years, gave evidence that he had had dealings with Molina for more than 10 years. He said Molina never caused him any issues and at all times behaved professionally and respectfully.

    Kevin Aitken, site manager at Doric, has been employed by Multiplex and Leighton Contractors. He gave evidence that in his experience Molina was always polite, professional and friendly.

    Adrian Hackett, construction manager at Cooper & Oxley, gave evidence that he has had dealings with Molina for more than 15 years and found he always behaved politely when on site.

    The FWC appeared to take the six character references with a grain of salt and ruled that Molina could have his right of entry card on the condition he undertook “emotional management” training. Further, it put him on notice that it expected him to comply with the law from here on in.

    The ABCC continues to try to do its job, but in a decision handed down last month the FWC ruled against it regarding CFMMEU construction and general division Queensland branch secretary Michael Ravbar. The ABCC had tried to have Ravbar’s entry permit denied because under his watch officials in his branch had broken the law 23 times, “recidivist conduct” that had resulted in $3 million in fines.

    Although no businesspeople lined up to give Ravbar glowing references, FWC deputy president Val Gostencnik found him to be a fit and proper person and granted him his permit.

    Finally, the former boss of the Queensland CFMMEU, Dave Hanna, has just been committed to stand trial on serious allegations, which he denies. Hanna is facing two charges of rape and a charge relating to a breach of privacy, due to the allegation that he filmed the alleged victim.

    It is a disgrace that people in the business sector are willing to stand up and sing like canaries for the CFMMEU and frustrate the efforts of the ABCC. They, and their employer group, have surely forfeited the right to complain about the government and its supposed lack of effort in the industrial relations space.

  86. Top Ender

    Thanks Old Ozzie, and Roger – compiling suggestions list…

  87. Stimpson J. Cat

    PANDORA’S BOX: Trump/Russia May Expose Extent of “Five Eyes” Allied Spying
    A comprehensive timeline of events of the Russia investigation
    Moreover, if members of an administration collect information from allies based on overseas communications between opposition, what happens to that intelligence?

    Which two famous politicians have recently visited New Zealand and still have top security clearances potentially allowing them access to Five Eyes information in a venue where they would not be monitored the same way they would be in the U.S.?
    Hmmmm……

  88. Tel

    Lol, that must be why the US economy completely collapsed in the 19th century when they imposed massive tariffs.

    Yeah, zero income tax, and zero government handouts, means incentive to work… unlike today.

  89. John Constantine

    https://www.cpa.org.au/guardian/2018/1824/18-bolivarian.html

    “The voting process starts with electors arriving at their designated polling place where they are required to show an ID card then the voting machine is accessed with their finger print. The machine identifies the person and it only opens if the data matches the elector’s finger print. There is no way a person would be able to vote more than once. The vote is secret and the process witnessed by electoral authorities and members of the political parties participating in the election. ”

    Their godless commo filth of the cfmeu and the Australian communist party go to Venezuela, to find the voting process is less corrupt than in Australia.

    But in Australia, the left rig it, so everything is fine.

    Comrades.

  90. Baldrick

    Yeah, zero income tax, and zero government handouts, means incentive to work… unlike today.

    Governments can’t survive nowadays unless voters are clamouring for free handouts. Paying income tax is so 1980’s.

  91. JC

    Oh look, the rippling Adonis is back… Again!

  92. egg_

    Ching Chong burger

    Getting International coverage in EnZed.
    Probably started out as a joke and they stuck with it… till now?

  93. nemkat

    Judith Sloan, Henderson, and, believe it or not, Van Onselen, also had readable contributions in The Weekend Australian.

  94. egg_

    Add some Mexican spices and make it a Cheech & Chong burger?

  95. Roger

    the NT is just a running joke

    However, they still have cracker night.

  96. Shy Ted

    COLD weather will greet the Top End in the coming days… “Temperatures are dropping across much of the Territory across the weekend,” The cold snap comes after seven consecutive nights of temperatures dropping below 7C earlier in May. That cold snap saw a minimum temperature of 17.8C, eight degrees colder than the May average.
    They’ll have to huddle round the incandescent light bulbs to keep warm!

  97. Shy Ted

    I once had a Ching Chong sandwich in Bangkok!

  98. Stimpson J. Cat

    Judith Sloan, Henderson, and, believe it or not, Van Onselen, also had readable contributions in The Weekend Australian.

    That’s fantastic.
    What are the best specials in this week’s Aldi catalogue?

  99. C.L.

    Bert and Pattie Newton – is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

  100. Makka

    PANDORA’S BOX: Trump/Russia May Expose Extent of “Five Eyes” Allied Spying
    A comprehensive timeline of events of the Russia investigation

    If it can be done, this is yuuuge.

  101. rickw

    Bert and Pattie Newton – is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    They’re still alive??!

  102. Nick

    is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    The Warners

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bert and Pattie Newton – is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    Bob Hawke and Blanche whatthefuckwashername?

  104. Makka

    TE,

    Heard a stat on a YT vid where it was claimed that more tonnage was dropped on Darwin than on Pearl Harbour. Your take on that?

  105. egg_

    Bert and Pattie Newton

    More of Melbourne’s ‘Royalty’?

  106. rickw

    Which two famous politicians have recently visited New Zealand and still have top security clearances potentially allowing them access to Five Eyes information in a venue where they would not be monitored the same way they would be in the U.S.?
    Hmmmm……

    Like your work Stimpy!

  107. Roger

    Bob Hawke and Blanche whatthefuckwashername?

    Grant that.

    Bert and Pattie are in show business, so we really expect no better of them.

  108. egg_

    Is Full Frontal with Samantha Bee subtitled ‘The Ginger Minge’?

  109. Roger

    ABC TV News again acting as the local propaganda arm of Hamas on the death of the Gazan female medic.

    Your taxes at work, comrades.

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    Grigs and NumptyJatz.

  111. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Heard a stat on a YT vid where it was claimed that more tonnage was dropped on Darwin than on Pearl Harbour. Your take on that?

    I recall a similar claim – that the same number of aircraft that bombed Pearl Harbor, bombed Darwin.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    Do we have any accountants on Catallaxy today?
    Grigs needs someone to explain trust funds to him, preferably with diagrams.
    Type very f$cking slowly please so we only have to go through this numbers nightmare once.

  113. Stimpson J. Cat

    #numbersnumptynightmare

  114. Bruce of Newcastle

    My dead tree Quadrant arrived Friday so I look forward to reading Top Ender’s article!

    Meanwhile, speaking of history:

    De Beers to sell synthetic diamonds—here’s how they’re made

    The world’s biggest diamond company, De Beers, recently announced it would start selling synthetic diamond gemstones for the first time in its 130-year history. Artificial diamonds have been manufactured since the 1950s but De Beers has long resisted moving into the synthetic market. The company now believes that technology is efficient enough to produce large quantities of synthetic diamonds with the quality of the best gemstones.

    The challenge is to make this process, known as chemical vapour deposition (CVD) cost-effective. De Beers now believes it has reached this point and plans to extend production at its facility in Ascot in the UK and at a new diamond factory in the USA.

    A diamond factory! How cool is that?

  115. rickw

    I recall a similar claim – that the same number of aircraft that bombed Pearl Harbor, bombed Darwin.

    Serious question, what was the point?

    We should have left it to the aboriginals, Then the Japanese could have bombed it from the Stone Age back to the Stone Age!

  116. Maybe. But, both Democrats and Republicans make too big a fuss of a Presidential pardon, which is really just a gesture that says to a felon “I forgive you”. That’s all. The D’Souza conviction still stands, as does the $30,000 fine, the 6 months incarceration and 5 years probation.

    Never mind that it’s an authority above the law, in that in the stroke of a pen a legal decision can be invalidated. It violates the principle that everyone is subject to law.

    Yet what it demonstrates is that he USA has injustice in its justice system that requires remedy by an elected president.

  117. rickw

    Never mind that it’s an authority above the law, in that in the stroke of a pen a legal decision can be invalidated. It violates the principle that everyone is subject to law.

    Yet what it demonstrates is that he USA has injustice in its justice system that requires remedy by an elected president.

    Based on the principle that the law is an ass, administered by arseholes.

    TR would get a Presidential Pardon and rightly so (now there’s a Trump trolling idea!).

  118. Confused Old Misfit

    There is no greater “demonstration” of the injustice in the US justice system than this:

    “Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture[1] or occasionally civil seizure, is a legal process in which law enforcement officers take assets from persons suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing. ” (Wikipedia)
    If you have liquid assets about you, you can be suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity simply by virtue being in possession of the assets.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Serious question, what was the point?

    Happy to be corrected, but it’s my understanding that the Japanese were readying for the invasion of Timor, and they wanted to deny the ABDA (American British Dutch Australian) forces the use of Darwin as a resupply port.

  120. Top Ender

    Hi Makka,

    My co-author and I did a small chapter on that in Carrier Attack – our forensic analysis of the first Darwin raid, published in 2013.

    (goes to find book, gets distracted, comes back etc….)

    Pearl Harbor: total of weight bombs and torpedoes = 133, 420kk
    Darwin raid: total of weight bombs (no torpedoes used) = 114, 100kg.

    Of interest, and often used by commentators for effect, is that Pearl saw 461 weapons released, and Darwin 681.

  121. John Constantine

    The debeers artificial diamonds will have a mark on them to show they weren’t mined.

    The chicom and Russian mafia artificial diamonds will just get churned out at lowest cost and sold to any buyer they can get.

    Don’t buy gemstone mining stocks.

  122. Top Ender

    Essentially right Zulu.

    Additional info:
    Darwin raid 1 of 19 Feb: 36 Zero fighters, 81 Kate bombers, 71 Val divebombers
    Raid 2: 27 Betty bombers, 27 Nell bombers

    Pearl Harbor raiders:
    Wave 1: 50 Kates, 54 Vals, 45 Zeroes
    Wave 2: 27 Kates, 27 Kates (varied loadout), 81 Vals, 36 Zeroes

  123. Eyrie

    Blanche whatthefuckwashername?
    Old Peugeot
    ( thanks to “How Green Was My Cactus”)

  124. Eyrie

    Cyclone Tracy was trying to tell us something. Unfortunately Darwin was re-built.

  125. Some History

    Looking at the Barnaby affair, stumbled on this 50-year old performance:

    Temptation’s ‘Bout To Get Me (1968) – The Virgil Brothers
    [that’s a really D.E.E.P VOICE]

  126. Frank

    Bert and Pattie Newton – is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    Yes, bu too tough to narrow it down really.

  127. Geriatric mayfly

    The debeers artificial diamonds will have a mark on them to show they weren’t mined.

    Once it was a stone pulled from a pocket as two yamulkas meet. Clarity, colour, cut and carat assessed on the spot, and a handshake to seal the deal. Not any more, as the synthetics are very difficult to distinguish from those forged by Gaia.

  128. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Australian p#d#phile Christopher John Gott dies in Brazil

    The Australian
    7:22PM June 3, 2018

    An Australian p#d#phile has died after spending more than a month in a coma following a car accident in Brazil.

    Christopher John Gott, 63, was in April revealed to be in a Rio de Janeiro hospital, more than 20 years after fleeing Australia while on parole for child s#x offences.

    SBS reports he was confirmed dead on Thursday from multiple organ failure, citing Rio authorities.

    In a statement to AAP, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said it was providing assistance to the family of a man who died in Brazil.

    On the evening of January 18, the Australian fugitive was enjoying himself at Brazil’s famous ­Copacabana Beach when a car suddenly veered off the road ­­and ploughed across the crowded pavement, crashing through ­tables and chairs.

    The car hit 17 people, including Gott, who lay sprawled and bloodied on the ground as an angry crowd, believing it was a terrorist attack, tried to haul ­the driver, Antonio de Almeida ­Anquim, out of his battered ­Hyundai. The accident made international headlines.

    It turns out that the 41-year-old Anquim had suffered a seizure. The accident killed an eight-month-old girl and left four others in a serious condition.

    From the Oz. Good riddance

  129. Leo G

    Yet what it demonstrates is that he USA has injustice in its justice system that requires remedy by an elected president.

    Pity the media’s reporting can’t be remedied. Politifact for instance, reported after President Trump announced the pardon for Dinesh D’Souza on May 31 that the important salient facts of the conviction and pardon were (apparently in in order of significance):
    ▪️A best-selling author, he made a documentary film attacking former President Barack Obama.
    ▪️He began his career as an adviser to Ronald Reagan.
    ▪️He was forced to resign as president of a NYC Christian college after he was found to be engaged to a woman while still married to another.
    ▪️He made contributions of US$20,000 to Wendy Long’s unsuccessful challenge of Kirsten Gillibrand to represent New York in the United States Senate when the legal limit was $$5,000.
    It’s a wonder Politifact thought it necessary to mention the last point- the first three should have been enough to warrant a severe penalty.

  130. entropy

    Gees, Some History, that guy looks like a young Bob Katter

  131. Some History

    Sunday Night
    presents…

    This Is
    the JOYCE®

  132. calli

    the synthetics are very difficult to distinguish from those forged by Gaia.

    😄

    Very, very good, sir.

  133. cohenite

    While Tommy rots or worse in jail courtesy of judicial activism none, that is none, of the officials whose neglect, political correctness, laziness, disdain and betrayal of the girls and their culture have been punished. In fact many have been rewarded.

    A

    Story Set in Leafy Oxfordshire

    Douglas Murray Gatestone Institute June 3, 2018

    Since the arrest of Tommy Robinson on May 25, the presence generally — and incorrectly — referred to as ‘Asian grooming gangs’ has been back in the news. This has reignited a debate about whether victims are getting justice and whether perpetrators are encountering it. In all this at least one key element is missing. What price has been paid, is being paid, or might be paid at some stage, by all those public officials who tacitly or otherwise allowed these modern-day atrocities to go on, doing nothing to stop them? The policemen, politicians, council workers and others who were shown to have failed time and again. They have never been sentenced to prison for any of their oversights — and perhaps criminal charges (not even charges of criminal negligence) could never be brought against them. It is worth asking, however, if any of these people’s lives, career paths, or even pension plans were ever remotely affected by their proven failure to confront one of the greatest evils to have gone on in Britain. That is the mass rape of young girls motivated by adults propelled by (among much else) racism, religiosity, misogyny and class contempt.

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10155716101839370

  134. Confused Old Misfit

    While our pusillanimous, intellectually circumcised state and federal politicians kiss the green behinds of the doctors wives and professorial class the yanks get on with building an economy.
    Anyone on this country that has the nerve to complain about American cultural and/or economic domination while supporting a ban on fracking should be horsewhipped.

  135. Confused Old Misfit

    Yes, grammar nazis, I know. There’s an ‘ missing.

  136. Helen

    A good day over all, with some crap in the middle.

    We were mustering the boy cows and as we have mostly cryptorchids and grower bull mickies, some got extra excited and started riding not just each other, which is usual, but also some small weaners in the mob. I thought I was in the bovine version of Tennant Creek for a while, managed to cut three back with their mothers (they are refugees and not supposed to even be in the paddock) but I could see there were more ahead.

    The time taken to do it, in a narrow laneway with a Hilux, meant that we had to ovenight them in a small holding paddock. I will make sure I am on a quad tomorrow, just hope they manage to survivie the night.

    As we were flying back, I noticed how beautiful the silver and green of the leaves on the trees were, and I made a little verse.

    Here it is. Probs needs some work.

    Skimming green and silver waves of leaves
    Capped by sky of startling blue
    That fades to grey where it meets the trees
    Sipping just warm coffee laced with cream

    Feeling the tension drain away
    Off windswept helicopter hair
    Just crowns the end of this old day
    With me and Captain, heading home

  137. Oh come on

    Oh look, the rippling Adonis is back… Again!

    What, where? I have been hoping we’d get a lengthy analysis of the recent upheavals in Italian politics, stolen from an online journal and republished here without attribution, so that’s good.

  138. Confused Old Misfit

    Nice Helen!

  139. H B Bear

    Their godless commo filth of the cfmeu and the Australian communist party go to Venezuela, to find the voting process is less corrupt than in Australia.

    Most 3rd world elections are. The AEC are a joke as was exposed with the GetUp stack in Indi where Greens-Liars stooge and archetypal rural “independent” Cathy McGowan was aided by their ALPBC and ex-ALPBC run local media. All carefully disposed of by the Victoriastan judiciary.

    About the only positive thing about the AEC is that it is still better than the USA which most African despots would love to have in their own sh1tholes.

  140. Gab

    Refreshing, Helen. Nicely done.

  141. egg_

    This Is
    the JOYCE®

    I don’t think it will last till Seb collects his trust fund.

  142. Delta A

    Lovely description, Helen, both in your verse and prose.

  143. johanna

    Any idea why they are small? I would have thought that survival of the fittest would have favoured larger horses.

    Wild horses tend to be small everywhere. Think of the popular British pony breeds, which haven’t changed much from their wild form because people kept breeding them small for kids to ride, etc. The Mongolian Horse, largely unchanged since it was domesticated in 2000 BC or earlier, is slightly bigger than a pony but small for a horse.

    My theory is that the smaller body mass is advantageous because the animal doesn’t need to eat as much to survive and reproduce, plus in cold climates it’s a bit easier to keep warm if you are short and stocky.

    Natural selection is pretty brutal among wild horses, especially in cold climates, and it only seems to take a very few generations for the non-starters to either not be conceived or die very young.

  144. calli

    I like that, Helen.

    Cream-laced coffee and helicopter hair. Quite so.

  145. Rae

    So Rae … is a public servant

    No. Not now. Not ever.

    PS: I am dead to you. And to your keyboard.

    So. Get thee to a none-ery

  146. Roger

    …the mass rape of young girls motivated by adults propelled by (among much else) racism, religiosity, misogyny and class contempt.

    Douglas Murray ‘d better watch it; you can’t say that in contemporary Britain.

    The only thing protecting him is his upper middle class status, a benefit Tommy Robinson doesn’t have.

  147. nemkat

    The AEC are a joke as was exposed with the GetUp stack in Indi where Greens-Liars stooge and archetypal rural “independent” Cathy McGowan was aided by their ALPBC and ex-ALPBC run local media.
    Tony Abbott’s fault.
    The AEC did similar shit against Palmer in Fairfax, finding thousands of votes in the wrong piles at a recount, and giving the votes to the Liberal Candidate. Palmer stuck to his guns, and they eventually gave up.

    That’s why the Sept. 7 2013 Election wasn’t declared until November 30.
    If Mirabella had stuck to her guns, instead of conceding, she might have got up, too.

  148. Slayer of Memes

    Anyone else see the news about the Feds escalating the Weinstein investigation/prosecution?

    The FBI are now, apparently, classifying it under RICO which means it’s a network of criminals…

    Keep watching to see who else is going down among our ‘favourite’ movie stars and directors

    #TheyKnew

  149. stackja

    Senior citizens tell that Darwin air raids were not reported, and not known about until 1960s.

  150. Oh come on

    Saw an interesting interview today with Gab’s Israeli eye candy. He made the point that, before he became PM, there was an enormous amount of intellectual capital tied up in the Israeli defence and intelligence industries and services, but when the people who contributed to these dropped out of the IDF and Mossad, they had to go overseas to capitalise on the knowledge they’d developed in the course of their work due to cripplingly high corporate taxes and excessive red tape. Bibi took an axe to all of this and the country became a high tech powerhouse within the space of a decade or so.

    What lessons can Australia draw from the Israeli experience? Maybe none – perhaps they came 25-30 years too late. However, maintaining defence spending at a rate that ensures a viable indigenous arms industry seems sensible policy which has positive benefits for other high tech sectors of the economy. Trouble for us is that once the skills base has been lost, it’s very hard to get it back.

  151. Rae

    Been to the movies this arvo. Saw The Bookshop. Excellent movie. I loved it.

  152. Top Ender

    Well the senior citizens would be wrong Stackja.

    It was under-reported at the time, but within a few weeks fairly accurate reports were widely printed in the newspapers of Australia. You can find them on Trove now.

    The story of northern Australia at war – 208 air raids/recon missions – didn’t make it into school history books for decades though.

  153. W Hogg

    Bert and Pattie Newton – is there a more loathsome duo of publicity addicts on earth?

    If there is I bet that grub Yassmin is one of them.

  154. JD

    Alexander D gets the Judge Jeanine exposure. Watch from 8:30 for a minute or so. For Trumphophiles, watch from 14:40 for a few minutes on Trump’s 500 days with Kelly Anne Conway. You will have to excuse JJ for her snark mode 🙂
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gUUgRsZpN0

  155. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2727224, posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    Well the senior citizens would be wrong Stackja.

    It was under-reported at the time, but within a few weeks fairly accurate reports were widely printed in the newspapers of Australia. You can find them on Trove now.

    The story of northern Australia at war – 208 air raids/recon missions – didn’t make it into school history books for decades though.

    Newspapers maybe not read at the time. Only know what told.
    I have read ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE 1939-194 2 by DOUGLAS GILLISON CANBERRA First published in 1962.

  156. H B Bear

    Googles G still wondering what do with a Chief Economics Correspondent who doesn’t know much about economics unleashes Alberscreechi on the 7pm news to do a hatchet job on Chris Corrigan’s AFR article last week saying a lot of female directors are only on company boards because they lack a penis, just weeks after Gonski’s 45 yo protege blew billions off the market value of AMP before being forced out. No doubt she’ll unleash the usual suspects to do a bit of handbag whirring. And no I didn’t bother to hang around and watch it.

    When news becomes opinion at Australia’s most trusted news source.

  157. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2727224, posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    Well the senior citizens would be wrong Stackja.

    Trove reports seem different to later reports.

  158. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If there is I bet that grub Yassmin is one of them

    One of many frightbats, indeed.

  159. Fat Tony

    Rae
    #2727223, posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:57 pm
    Been to the movies this arvo. Saw The Bookshop. Excellent movie. I loved it.

    Rae – no-one cares. Fuck off troll.

  160. Stimpson J. Cat

    OK what the f$ck.
    Now I’m listening to Kanye’s new album and he has come out as bipolar.

    Welcome to the brethren my brother.

    😁

  161. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Top Ender
    #2727224, posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    I don’t have a reference, but there was a commission of inquiry of some sort – a Royal Commission?- into the whole matter of the Darwin raid, and the Station commander of R.A.A.F. Darwin was asked “What ground defence training have your men had?”

    “Most of them can march in three ranks, and some can shoulder arms…”

  162. Pickles

    Are they going to tell us if Jacky Jacqui got a root or not?

  163. rickw

    What lessons can Australia draw from the Israeli experience?

    None. Australian Politicians think they can learn the most from the Venezuelan experience, something to aspire to.

  164. OneWorldGovernment

    Rae
    #2727217, posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    So Rae … is a public servant

    No. Not now. Not ever.

    So where and how did you learn all of your Australian Taxation Legislation knowledge Rae?

  165. Pedro the Ignorant

    As we were flying back, I noticed how beautiful the silver and green of the leaves on the trees were, and I made a little verse.

    Helen at 8.33pm.

    Lovely verse and word picture of country Australia, Helen.

    Banjo wrote for those of us who love the bush but have to suffer the cities from time to time:

    I am sitting in my dingy little office, where a stingy
    Ray of sunlight struggles feebly down between the houses tall,
    And the foetid air and gritty of the dusty, dirty city
    Through the open window floating, spreads it’s foulness over all.

    And in place of lowing cattle, I can hear the fiendish rattle
    Of the tramways and the buses making hurry down the street,
    And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,
    Comes fitfully and faintly through the ceaseless tramp of feet

    And the hurrying people daunt me, and their pallid faces haunt me
    As they shoulder one another in their rush and nervous haste,
    With their eager eyes and greedy, and their stunted forms and weedy,
    For townsfolk have no time to grow, they have no time to waste.

  166. nemkat

    Are they going to tell us if Jacky Jacqui got a root or not?

    Dunno.
    Let’s send Stimpson down there.
    He can bore her to the point she loses all interest in rooting.

  167. Pity the media’s reporting can’t be remedied. Politifact for instance, reported after President Trump announced the pardon for Dinesh D’Souza on May 31 that the important salient facts of the conviction and pardon were (apparently in in order of significance):
    ▪A best-selling author, he made a documentary film attacking former President Barack Obama.
    ▪He began his career as an adviser to Ronald Reagan.
    ▪He was forced to resign as president of a NYC Christian college after he was found to be engaged to a woman while still married to another.
    ▪He made contributions of US$20,000 to Wendy Long’s unsuccessful challenge of Kirsten Gillibrand to represent New York in the United States Senate when the legal limit was $$5,000.
    It’s a wonder Politifact thought it necessary to mention the last point- the first three should have been enough to warrant a severe penalty.

    The moment the Barnaby story came up, the first thing i thought was that, in 2018, journalists are MORE dishonest than politicians. Their integrity has been pissed up the wall, and it ain’t coming back any time soon.

  168. Bruce in WA

    Been to the movies this arvo. Saw The Bookshop. Excellent movie. I loved it.

    You would. Tedious, overwrought, banal cinematography masquerading as art and entertainment, backed up a script devoid of any wit or insight and a plot you could drive a Massey Ferguson through.

    Tripe.

  169. Fat Tony

    nemkat
    #2727240, posted on June 3, 2018 at 9:34 pm
    Are they going to tell us if Jacky Jacqui got a root or not?

    Dunno.
    Let’s send Stimpson down there.
    He can bore her to the point she loses all interest in rooting.

    Aahh…nemkat – the fuckwit’s fuckwit.

  170. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,

    My mother used to quote that line, whenever one of her children’s language was out of order.

  171. rickw

    You would. Tedious, overwrought, banal cinematography masquerading as art and entertainment, backed up a script devoid of any wit or insight and a plot you could drive a Massey Ferguson through.

    Bruce, I think you have a great future writing movie reviews!

  172. calli

    And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
    And at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars.

    Heavenly.

  173. Fat Tony

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2727244, posted on June 3, 2018 at 9:37 pm
    And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,

    My mother used to quote that line, whenever one of her children’s language was out of order.

    I just got the mouth washed out with soap – once was enough. Didn’t swear in front of my mother again.

  174. H B Bear

    Remember when dealing with sockwit trolls a simple “Fvck off” is all that is required.

  175. None

    Not his Gettysburg address.

  176. Pedro the Ignorant

    And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
    And at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars.

    Heavenly.

    +1, calli.

  177. Top Ender

    Yes, the Lowe report. Came out a few months later.

    It can be read here in Australian Archives.

    Justice Lowe did an excellent job, given the constraints of the country being at war. There was quite a bit he could not find out, but it’s reasonably accurate. For about 15 years from about 1993 there was fierce debate amongst about 10 historians – myself included – as to exactly how many people died in the first two raids on the Allied side, but it’s now quite fixed at 235.

  178. Fat Tony

    calli
    #2727246, posted on June 3, 2018 at 9:38 pm
    And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
    And at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars.

    Heavenly.

    In the early 1970s, I was working/living in Quilpie.

    …..”at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars” has to be seen to be believed – and out there, it could be.

  179. Some History

    Man carried out ‘cool’ citizen’s arrest and doesn’t drop his cigarette

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/02/man-carried-cool-citizens-arrest-doesnt-drop-cigarette-7600467/

    Have a read of the first comment to the article.

  180. Slayer of Memes

    Josh Campbell
    ‏@joshscampbell

    Prediction: The independent IG will slam the FBI for violating policies and procedures in handling the Clinton email investigation. The President will then find a way to make it about him and twist it into an attack on Mueller. Standby.

    1:45 am – 3 Jun 2018

    Who is Josh Campbell?

    He is a former top aide to James Comey; a Comey loyalist.

    …and even he agrees that the IG is going to find that the FBI, under Comey, “violated policies and procedures in handling the Clinton email investigation.”

    Poor mUnty is going to be spending HOURS driving around town to find enough dead squirrels for his next few days worth of Catallaxy appearences….

  181. Rae

    Tedious, overwrought, banal cinematography masquerading as art and entertainment, backed up a script devoid of any wit or insight and a plot you could drive a Massey Ferguson through.

    Ah, Sourpuss. You used more words a couple of weeks ago to express your disappointment that the female lead didn’t show her hairy front bottom in The Bookshop.

    Far too many wingeing Poms and their descendants on this blog. (BIRM)

  182. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dunno.
    Let’s send Stimpson down there.
    He can bore her to the point she loses all interest in rooting.

    You turn into such a grumpy numpty when the Aldi catalogues late don’t you?
    How many times did you check your mailbox today?

  183. Rae

    A kinder person than me would say you just didn’t understand the movie or why it needed to be acted in the way it was.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Banjo wrote for those of us who love the bush but have to suffer the cities from time to time:

    Wheatbelt barbers shop, back in the day. Four middle aged men, the barber included, knew all the words of “The Man From Ironbark.”

    “Yummy mummy” with two children, waiting for their haircuts, thought we were all mad.

  185. Anyone else see the news about the Feds escalating the Weinstein investigation/prosecution?

    The FBI are now, apparently, classifying it under RICO which means it’s a network of criminals…

    Keep watching to see who else is going down among our ‘favourite’ movie stars and directors

    #TheyKnew

    Fucking oath they knew.

    Have a look at the photo of Sally Field with Harvey Weinstein. She did not want to be photoed with him. According to a very good source, she provided Harvey with girls.

    She was his pimp.

  186. Fat Tony

    Rae – off is the direction in which you should fuck

  187. Pedro the Ignorant

    Wheatbelt barbers shop, back in the day. Four middle aged men, the barber included, knew all the words of “The Man From Ironbark.”

    – Zulu.

    🙂 BTDT.
    You have to love the strange looks from the townies when the old bushies launch into Henry and Banjo.

  188. Bruce in WA

    Ah, Sourpuss. You used more words a couple of weeks ago to express your disappointment that the female lead didn’t show her hairy front bottom in The Bookshop.

    Nope. It was an observation, not a wish or a disappointment.

    A kinder person than me [sic] would say you just didn’t understand the movie or why it needed to be acted in the way it was.

    Fair enough.

    I’ll back my 7 years of film and television study against most people’s knowledge.

    Apart from Bill Nighy playing Bill Nighy … probably the only way he can act now … I don’t recall criticising the acting. It was more the script that only gave the actors cinematic and literary cliches to work with.

    A kinder person than I would say you’re full of it.

  189. None

    Ok I think Barnaby probably won the public tonight. I’m not sure the Nats would be very happy with a couple of revelations but I’m not surprised. The feminazi reaction is going to be interesting.

  190. calli

    I love Banjo.

    Tall tales and beer.

    And on misty moonlit evenings, while the dingoes howl around,
    You can see their shadows flitting down that phantom polo ground;
    You can hear the loud collisions as the flying players meet,
    And the rattle of the mallets, and the rush of ponies’ feet,
    Till the terrified spectator rides like blazes to the pub –
    He’s been haunted by the spectres of the Geebung Polo Club.

  191. None

    The first time I heard the Man From Ironbark was from an old recording by Colin Thiele someone had. I was a kid. I was transfixed. I roared with laughter. I. Just. Loved. It. And then I found the poem in the library and read it so often that I knew the words off by heart within weeks.

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    🙂 BTDT.
    You have to love the strange looks from the townies when the old bushies launch into Henry and Banjo.

    Good friend of mine – now gone to God – was prone to reciting “The Man From Snowy River” in his cups.

  193. Rae

    Sourpuss. “7 years of film and television study “, and you just didn’t understand The Bookshop at all. Seems you wasted 7 years of “study” – whatever that was.

  194. Pedro the Ignorant

    Slim Dusty set the Man From Snowy River to music and did a pretty good job IMO.

  195. calli

    As John Constantine would say, old obsolete Australia, showing off White Male Privilege and verse that scans.

    It’s cheesy because it’s familiar. It’s hackneyed because we all know it off by heart.

    Not for much longer.

  196. Oh come on

    Why are you entering into discussions with the sock? Idiots. You have made its week, if not month, with the attention you’re showing it. Ignore.

  197. Rae

    Slim Dusty set the Man From Snowy River to music and did a pretty good job IMO.

    No. Just … no.

  198. None

    There was movement at the station, for the word had passed around. That the colt from old Regret had got away…

  199. Confused Old Misfit

    You Australians are fortunate. I can’t think of any Canadian poet with the talent of Lawson and Paterson.
    Bliss Carmen? Maybe?

  200. cohenite

    Have a look at the photo of Sally Field with Harvey Weinstein. She did not want to be photoed with him. According to a very good source, she provided Harvey with girls.

    Maybe. But the photos of Weinstein and Hollywood stars of both sexes shows what sleaze-bags the stars are; they give so much meaning to the term

    suck-up

    . I mean what do you expect, the most attractive people in the world with nothing to sell except that meeting rich ugly bastards. I just hope oprah is drawn in. And she wants to run for POTUS.

  201. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Slim Dusty set the Man From Snowy River to music and did a pretty good job IMO.

    I’m looking for a musical version of “Song of the Artesian water” that isn’t dripping with political correctness

    “For when Canadian Bill is firing on the sundried gidgee logs

    She can equal forty horses, and a score or so of dogs.”

  202. Slayer of Memes

    Fuck it… Tried to post the article three times, and the spaminator ate it each time…

    RTWT…

    Disney Under Fire for Hiring Convicted Peed-o-phil-es to Work on Kids Shows

  203. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As John Constantine would say, old obsolete Australia, showing off White Male Privilege and verse that scans.

    It’s cheesy because it’s familiar. It’s hackneyed because we all know it off by heart.

    We moved off the farm that my grandfather, and father had run before me. I was “shaking hands” and introducing the new sharefarmer, around the town, when one of the local businessmen fixed me with a steely eye.

    “I did business with your grandfather, and your father before you, and you were just as cantankerous as they were. Like them, you paid your bills on time, and, when you gave your word, you kept it.”

    A man can have a better epitaph, from the old, obsolete, Australia.

  204. Bruce in WA

    Why are you entering into discussions with the sock? Idiots. You have made its week, if not month, with the attention you’re showing it. Ignore.

    Point taken.

  205. Bruce in WA

    There was movement at the station
    For the prunes had passed around …

  206. Slayer of Memes

    One for the economics whizkid, mUnty, to explain…

    What Happened to Those ‘Experts’ Who Said Trump Would ‘DESTROY’ the World Economy?

    Remember when the so-called economic “experts” predicted that if President Trump was to win the White House he would “single-handily” destroy the world economy.

    Yet, here we are, some 14 months later, and our economy is soaring like never before.

    Black unemployment is at record lows, manufacturing jobs are coming home, wages are up, taxes are lower, and unemployment is at 3.8%.

    So-called “experts” like the ones who trash President Trump, and who are promoted, propped up, and given credibility by our lying liberal media, are just one of the reasons why Americans no longer trust our fake news media.

    Another beginning of the month, another new set of positive economic numbers for the United States under President Donald Trump. With employment hitting new lows and wages continuing to finally rise, the American people have good reason to feel that the economy isn’t going off the rails any time soon.

    One should always exercise discretion when giving credit to a president for the economy’s health. While Trump has helped foment conditions conducive to growth through his tax reductions, regulation slashing, and most importantly, creating a climate where business owners don’t share anxiety over future regulations or interference, no single individual can accept all the praise.

    And yet the American people were told something very different in November 2016 and in the months leading up to the election: A Trump victory could single-handedly, in the words of The Washington Post, “destroy the world economy.”

    Of course, no such thing happened. Despite these apocalyptic predictions by the nation’s pundit class, there’s been no evidence of any humility going forward.

    One would imagine that any person, let alone someone who fancies himself an “expert,” would take a long pause and reassess how they let themselves call it so poorly. Perhaps WaPo could have printed another editorial a year after Trump’s election explaining why and how they got everything so wrong.

    Perhaps New York Times columnist Paul Krugman could go a step further rather than just a one-off tweet and offer a detailed explanation for why the post-Election Day “global recession, with no end in sight” has not yet materialized.

    Krugman wasn’t alone. Such a prediction was shared by former Clinton and Obama chief economist Larry Summers and MSNBC economic analyst Steve Rattner.

    After all, these individuals (and there are many) likely care a great deal about their credibility. Nearly two years into the president’s first term, what have they done to regain it?

    To be fair, it’s easy to see why they all felt comfortable throwing around words like “recession” or “disaster.” Given how the vast majority of the media predicted a Hillary Clinton victory, it was easy to give inane predictions and never expect to be questioned on a hypothetical.

    But that hypothetical came true. As did Trump’s promise to create jobs, raise wages, and generate growth as the country remained in the worst economic recovery since the Great Recession.

    The economic predictions of doom and gloom were one of the chief rationales given to vote against Trump. If our experts were so wrong in this instance, what else were they wrong about? And will they even admit to it, anyway?

  207. Rae

    You would.

    Snarky, Bruce. Not a good way to buy in if you want things to be civil.

  208. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wallis and Matilda did a good job, indeed.

  209. Pedro the Ignorant

    Old Australia is still out there, though you have to travel a long way from the east coast urban sinkholes to find it.

    It won’t be there for long, the old values and traditions are being eaten away at an alarming rate by trendy lefties, spivs and chancers, hordes of reffos who see nothing but a chance to grab whatever they can from the welfare state, tax grabbers, snake oil merchants, and even our own media that despise everything that we all once admired and cherished.

    We have seen the best years of Australian life pass us us by, and despite all the hardships and sacrifices since Federation, it was a wonderful country for those prepared to strive and work hard.

    Sadly,it will never come back.

    Poor fella, my country.

  210. Peter

    Pardon the link – I can’t work this stupid iPad. Use Google

  211. Slayer of Memes

    Indeed, Beery

    There are quite a lot of them too…

    Court documents list “Miramax Does 1-10″ and ” John Does 1-50″

    That’s SIXTY people, apart from Weinstein himself and the other named litigants (Robert Weinstein [Harvey’s brother], Dirk Ziff, Tim Sarnoff, Marc Lasry, Tarak Bin Ammar, Paul Tudor Jones, Jeff Sackman, and James Dolan)…

    That’s a LOT of Hollywood ‘royalty’ that is going to be sweating bullets for the next few months…

    #TheyKnew #TheyALLKnew

  212. Oh come on

    The biography of Elia Kazan that Weinstein took into court was a pretty clear indication that Weinstein could very easily name names if he wanted to.

  213. cohenite

    Off to bed and while you sleep remember what muslims and your leaders are doing:

    Muslims attacking cars in Birmingham at the start of Ramadan as they don’t want cars driven during this time:

    https://www.facebook.com/ben.dejonge.52/videos/347658899095982/

  214. JC

    Cohenite

    That question was stupid because it was clearly meant to annoy and to a large extent was seen and treated as a non sequitur, by the feminazi coven. Try and be a little more discerning.

  215. whalehunt fun

    supporting a ban on fracking should be horsewhipped.

    No. Should be tied between two horses and then the horses whipped.

  216. egg_

    I think Barnaby probably won the public tonight.

    Diminished in my opinion – he seemed controlling whilst she seemed manipulative – they deserve each other.
    I wonder if Campion would stay at home with bubs whilst Barn is off to a party elsewhere with single women about?

  217. OneWorldGovernment

    Did School of The Air for a start.

    Then went to local, miles away, school.

    This was my solo performance as a young 8yo.

    Frying Pan’s Theology

    Scene: On Monaro.
    Dramatis Personae
    Shock-headed blackfellow,
    Boy (on a pony).
    Snowflakes are falling
    Gentle and slow,
    Youngster says, ‘Frying Pan
    What makes it snow?’
    Frying Pan, confident,
    Makes the reply —
    ‘Shake ’im big flour bag
    Up in the sky!’
    ‘What! when there’s miles of it?
    ‘Surely that’s brag.
    ‘Who is there strong enough
    ‘Shake such a bag?’
    ‘What parson tellin’ you,
    ‘Ole Mister Dodd,
    ‘Tell you in Sunday-School?
    ‘Big feller God!
    ‘Him drive His bullock dray,
    ‘Then thunder go;
    ‘He shake His flour bag —
    ‘Tumble down snow!’

  218. OneWorldGovernment

    Frying Pan’s Theology is a Banjo Patterson classic.

  219. None

    No Egg I just think they were very very defensive; they had obviously talked about strategy beforehand; I think Barnaby was just being a bit protective at one stage and good on him. I know the child was conceived as part of an affair but to give birth to your first child and not be able to share it with others or even receive flowers just really says how disgusting the media has been about this

  220. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Frying Pan’s Theology is a Banjo Patterson classic.

    Just so politically incorrect, these days.

  221. OneWorldGovernment

    JC
    #2727296, posted on June 3, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    Really?

    Great photo

    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/dc5bdb26ab8d91a60556110e6919d47a?width=650

  222. None

    Out of all the feminazis I find Carolyn Overington the most banal, beige and evil. She’s just pompous, mean-spirited, rather dull, not very intelligent and a drone. I can’t understand her appeal as a journalist but then again the Australian has got very few journalists worth their money at the moment.

  223. OneWorldGovernment

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2727309, posted on June 3, 2018 at 11:18 pm

    Frying Pan’s Theology is a Banjo Patterson classic.

    Just so politically incorrect, these days.

    LOL

    My knees were knocking when I looked out across all those children and Adults.

    Mind you I was yelled at by the teacher to ‘do something’.

    So I farquing did.

    Good experience though.

  224. OneWorldGovernment

    Speaking of taxation and who knows what!

    Whatever happened with the ATO commissioner or Deputy Commissioner who gave advice to his son whom ripped off ‘squillions’ from tax payers?

  225. None

    Well at least both Campion and Barnaby didn’t run around pretending they didn’t have an affair and acknowledge that they had both hurt innocent people unlike Mr Shorten and his present wife. There’s no further public interest in their relationship. This aspect of his life should now just be left alone ( which of course it won’t be because all the screaming banshees will carry on hello Caroline Overington you couldn’t even wait for the final credits).

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Whatever happened with the ATO commissioner or Deputy Commissioner who gave advice to his son whom ripped off ‘squillions’ from tax payers?

    Fair comment. Just remind me how many millions it actually was?

  227. None

    My money is now on the Daily Telegraph doing a big tell all interview with Natalie Joyce. That will be so fitting after Days of them screaming hypocrisy. Hello Sharri Markson good grief the Daily Telegraph used to have half reasonable political coverage until they appointed some bird from Cleo who still dresses like a prepubescent teen to cover it.

  228. OneWorldGovernment

    None
    #2727311, posted on June 3, 2018 at 11:20 pm

    Out of all the feminazis I find Carolyn Overington the most banal, beige and evil. She’s just pompous, mean-spirited, rather dull, not very intelligent and a drone. I can’t understand her appeal as a journalist but then again the Australian has got very few journalists worth their money at the moment.

    Whatever went wrong for Barnaby and his wife, I feel sorry for them.

    But that photo above is nice.

  229. None

    Shak’em big flour bag up in the sky.

  230. None

    I agree OWG. Sebastian is a cutie, he is innocent in all this, and he deserves to just grow up being a kid from the country.

  231. OneWorldGovernment

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2727316, posted on June 3, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    Whatever happened with the ATO commissioner or Deputy Commissioner who gave advice to his son whom ripped off ‘squillions’ from tax payers?

    Fair comment. Just remind me how many millions it actually was?

    I have a vague memory that it may have been around about AUD$20million.

    And the sister/daughter was also involved.

    But truly, here is a Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Taxation Department that has done something wrong and there is nothing happening!

  232. Snoopy

    None
    #2727265, posted on June 3, 2018 at 10:11 pm
    The first time I heard the Man From Ironbark was from an old recording by Colin Thiele someone had.

    Leonard Teale I’ll wager.

  233. OneWorldGovernment

    Snoopy
    #2727322, posted on June 3, 2018 at 11:39 pm

    None
    #2727265, posted on June 3, 2018 at 10:11 pm
    The first time I heard the Man From Ironbark was from an old recording by Colin Thiele someone had.

    Leonard Teale I’ll wager.

    Great recitation.

  234. OneWorldGovernment

    Now that the UNaustralian dictatorship have the GST boxed in then I expect we will have GST police/inspectors just as they do in EU type countries.

    Just as UNaustralian Parks & Wildlife type ‘greenies’ have the authority to walk into your home and check your freezer then GST police can check you or the shopkeeper to make sure GST is paid on all it should be.

  235. egg_

    No Egg I just think they were very very defensive

    He’s the member for my hometown and I’m one of his few supporters here, but he was very controlling for a 50 yo – I’m his senior – he seemed to portray and old cow cocky attitude – if that’s some folks’ cup of tea, good luck, but he only took the blame for his wife and threw Vikki under the bus with the ‘grey area’ paternity, which she objected to during the interview and playing devils advocate with ‘scarlet woman’ also stunk, the weasel.
    Pippa’s synopsis was spot on.
    I doubt that public opinion would have changed with this interview, if that’s what they were hoping.
    If not preselected by the Nats, he’ll have a tough time as an Independent.
    Crashed and burned IMHO.

  236. egg_

    There’s no further public interest in their relationship. This aspect of his life should now just be left alone

    WTF?
    Shades of Jane Caro.
    They just got $150k and indulged in an hour of sludge what should have taken 30 minutes.
    If that’s the best that Barndoor can do, forget it.
    The ‘grey area’ paternity comment was because he was cooped up by the Press?
    And he’s now taking $150k from the Press, his partner’s employer for 11 years.
    Hypocrisy writ large.

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