Monday Forum: June 4, 2018

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  1. Zatara

    I find the Hornady 50 Grain GMX in .223 works a treat to get the Skippy Burgers on the table.

    Funny how we all have different recipes. I like the 60gr Hornady SP in front of 25.4gr of 2206H. Bang, flop.

    All this nouvelle cuisine. I can’t use those Thermomix things, I have to use an 1875 double express saucier with 300gn of goodness simmered over 110gn black pepper. It does get crusty, but the cleanup is part of it all.

    Hornady 325-gr FTX in .45-70 Govt.

    Because you never know if a cranky Tyrannosaurus might need dispatching as well.

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What’s all this frogshit on the ABC at the moment, about Australia in the 1960’s

    “Conscripted, shipped off to die in the jungles of Viet Nam.” Who’s their military adviser, Numbers Bob?

  3. Makka

    In Estonia our guide (who sounded very much like Natasha) frequently said of the buildings “Is beautiful, is Estonian. Is ugly, is Soviets”.

    Looks can be deceiving however. In Moscow and other big population centres I’ve visited to the east in Nizhniy Novgorod, Yekaterinburg, Perm etc those ugly Sov apartment buildings have been gutted internally by their owners and refurbished to very high standards. I was gobsmacked by some of the renos I saw. Very tasteful and well done. Outside they look like typical Soviet dumps and the foyers like tips smelling of public latrines. Over a decade ago but.

  4. OneWorldGovernment

    old bloke

    so England and Europe chould be glassed because they are useless?

  5. Dave in Marybrook

    Awful night on the ABC, Z2KA.
    Can anyone dredge up the precocious little f#ckwit who is actually petitioning the HRC to press public schools into abandoning their uniforms and offering pants and shorts to girls? Because skirts and dresses are like, totally hijabs or restrictive or patriarchy or something. Closing article on ABC news WA.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In Estonia our guide (who sounded very much like Natasha) frequently said of the buildings “Is beautiful, is Estonian. Is ugly, is Soviets”

    I’m remembering a tour guide in Bratislava (Spelling?)

    “Life under Communists, not all black Hell. Life under democracy, not all blue sky.”

    She pointed out the fountain where an English buck’s party, had been arrested, cavorting nude, and thrown into gaol,,,three days or so before the wedding was to take place….I gather the bride was not impressed…

  7. Bruce in WA

    Hornady 325-gr FTX in .45-70 Govt.

    😲

  8. OneWorldGovernment

    And Gaza should be flattened and reman an Australian province because Australia kicked the useless Turks out of the place.

    Anyone in the Gaza strip is on notice to being thrown out because Australia won so fuck off out of the joint.

  9. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Awful night on the ABC, Z2KA.

    I haven’t watched anything on the A.B.C., other then the news, since they gave away “Foyle’s War.”

  10. OneWorldGovernment

    Australia owns Libiya.

  11. Makka

    other then the news, since they gave away “Foyle’s War.”

    I hear it’s back on Zulu. Starting at the very beginning. Certainly one of my very faves too.

  12. Steve trickler

    Tomorrow, you’ll hear this on the radio, driving to work. ( :



  13. Zatara

    Hornady 325-gr FTX in .45-70 Govt.

    😲

    One can never be over-prepared for the stray T. rex.

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I hear it’s back on Zulu. Starting at the very beginning. Certainly one of my very faves too.

    Big fan. Don’t have a reference, but the lead character was named in honor of “Foyles” bookshop, on Charing Cross Road and the memsahib has dragged me out of there more then once.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It is beyond me why Abbott’s article in Quadrant on the Western Civilization Degree Project should so put the frighteners on the ANU. That he might suggest the program could be constructed to be ‘in favour’ of the civilization of the West is surely only right and proper. This does not mean to say there would be no criticism of the West, but that the West is intrinsically worth studying.

    Try teaching Islam without being ‘in favour’ of it and see how far your Saudi funding takes you.

    Also, Abbot is simply a back-bencher as far as this bequest is concerned. So why should he not have freedom to speak his mind about what he feels a particular program should be or do, without it causing hysteria and blowback from the proposed providers? It’s simply excuse making on their part because they haven’t the fortitude or intellect to stand up to the extremists on campus.

  16. old bloke

    Chris
    #2729337, posted on June 5, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    Their name, Alani is the root word for Arian. So the British Allenby was recycled, perhaps, just like his-story.

    The Aryan were from the Clan of Errin (spl?) from the Tribe of Ephraim who were one of the three major Ephramite clans who formed the Parthian Empire. They expanded from Persia into northern India where they were accorded deity status amongst the local Indians as they brought horses (never before seen in India), were tall, fair people, and they brought their Sanskrit language (paleo [email protected]@w in Persian script).

    They treated the locals well, and ruled justly.

    Getting back to Mark Twain’s observation about history repeating itself, the “Aryans” returned to India as the British Raj. Once again, they were received well and they established the nation of India from disparate small kingdoms, established good governance, built the railways, postal services, established commerce, etc.

  17. OneWorldGovernment

    Then you have the bloke that killed Seth Rich

  18. OneWorldGovernment

    Just like Richo.

    “whatever it takes”.

  19. None

    This is a shocking admission really. They’re basically saying that they automatically take the opposite side because it’s Tony Abbott and to hell with the objective reasons for the course.

    yep the other not so startling admission is it they were pissed that they might not only have to teach Western civilization but perhaps even promoted something better which by the way you can say by any objective measurement Western civilization has far out strip door love is in its achievements and it in its contributions to the betterment of humanity.

  20. None

    Damn this software. And this flu.

  21. Bruce in WA

    At least the damn bullet gets there before the sound of the shot!

  22. JC

    Does anyone understand Trump’s policy on trade? Don’t offer anything like he’s playing 4D chess or it’s part of the Art of the Deal. In other words I want to hear a coherent explanation of this policy, with perhaps a little economics thrown in.

    I’m starting from this point. It’s the most jumbled up policy that just can’t be glossed over.

  23. OneWorldGovernment

    Bruce in WA
    #2729374, posted on June 6, 2018 at 12:33 am

    At least the damn bullet gets there before the sound of the shot!

    LOL

    picky picky.

  24. OneWorldGovernment

    JC
    #2729375, posted on June 6, 2018 at 12:54 am

    Does anyone understand Trump’s policy on trade? Don’t offer anything like he’s playing 4D chess or it’s part of the Art of the Deal. In other words I want to hear a coherent explanation of this policy, with perhaps a little economics thrown in.

    I’m starting from this point. It’s the most jumbled up policy that just can’t be glossed over.

    2 cents worth JC

    1 He is going to fuck over Europe and help destroy the greatest cartel in the history of the world.
    American foreign office types are fuckwhits just like ours and most other countries.

    2 The so called G7 had a meeting just North and Trump ignored it. Did you see the fotos? NAFTA allowed anyone to drop into Canada or Mexico and sell into America on favoured terms. Trump is saying fuck off unless you allow my country to do the same to you.

    3 China is not his problam, apart from their territorial shit.

    4 Europe is a stinking hive of communism..

    5 I hope he declines to go to England while Tommy Robinson is in gaol.

    6. They are all listening to him now.

    7. He has a communist Mexican president being elected.

  25. Armadillo

    Does anyone understand Trump’s policy on trade?

    Yep. It’s a simple concept.

    Bring as many people into the market place as possible. Own the marketplace “real estate”.

  26. None

    OWG seems to have summarised it.
    I don’t think he has a policy per say I think he’s just looking at each particular trade deal or Trading block and making sure they are in America’s interests. If not it’s hasta la vista. He’s approaching it like a businessman- if there’s nothing in it for him he walks- business is not a charity.

  27. None

    The Australian is suddenly very worried about free speech given the Sonia Kruger case. The New South Wales anti-discrimination board and the corresponding Administrative Tribunal have been out of control for years as can be seen in the case of Bernard Gaynor. Even in this past month they have ignored High Court rulings and are proceeding with further complaints against him even though they are unconstitutional. This is the same crew that’s going to no doubt tell you that Islam is now a race and Sonia Kruger has offended somebody who is this not only a serial complainer, but actually failed to indicate how he or anyone else has suffered as a consequence of her answering a question on TV with her opinion. If media had being serious about free speech they would have been vigilant and exposing dictators like the New South Wales anti-discrimination board but also the New South Wales Liberal government which enables it and even went to court to argue that the New South Wales anti discrimination board has jurisdiction over people living in other states well passing some enabling legislation only two or three days beforehand knowing that they would lose. I’m starting to think now that the only way to get real action on free speech is to actually complain against media types or parliamentarians because it’s only when their little skin is on the line that they actually care. A very different type of lawfare.

  28. OneWorldGovernment

    JC

    However they measure it but America is the only Country in the World who’s CO2 declined. Nothing to do with Trump and perhaps all to do with Communist Obama. Shale gas useage for electricity production.

    LOL

    The main station for CO2 measurement used to be somewhere in Hawai!

    But the expert fucking experts ignore all the burps and farts from underwater volcanoes AND bushfires.

    The whole CO2 scam is a fantastic Ponzi scheme.

  29. OneWorldGovernment

    None

    I can’t wait to see what the Sydney Opera House Mosque looks like.

  30. Armadillo

    I think my explaination of Trumps trade policy is simpler.

    When you own the biggest shopping centre in the world, you get to decide who comes in and out, and who supplies what. It’s leverage for other policies.

    Secure the Real Estate first. Bring back the tenants by lowering rents and costs (hence big tax cuts, less regulations, incentives to invest back in the USA and so on….). Clean out the scumbags infesting the mall so people feel safe again (immigration). Have a big bastard on the door with a RPG for security (strong military).

    He sees it as real estate deal. The 7/11 down the road (read Europe) ought to think again.

  31. JC

    Arm

    The US has an unemployment rate of 3,8% with growth in wages. Who are these people put out of work as a result of “unfair” US trade policies? I understand the protectionism on steel from the point that every president since Nixon has imposed tariffs and quotas on steel importing. It seems to go with the job if for nothing else.

  32. OneWorldGovernment

    Totally agree Arma.

  33. OneWorldGovernment

    What pisses me to tears Armadillo is that Lucy and Mal’s son is up the arse of the Chinese and Mal is allowed to make foreign affairs decisions!

    How fucked is that.

  34. Armadillo

    Trump is in the process of cleaning out the “Centre Management” that turned Americas Shopping Centre into a derelict building filled with drug and sex addicts, aided and abetted by the security guards (CIA and FBI).

    Drain the swamp.

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    JC

    Have you noted the Countries that are withdrawing their gold reserves from America?

    And how long it will take America to supply!

  36. OneWorldGovernment

    I hope Trump declares absolute war on Germany.

  37. Armadillo

    Who are these people put out of work as a result of “unfair” US trade policies?

    Rhetorical question? I only just arrived.

  38. Armadillo

    I might need to scroll up. I thought that was forbidden. I’ll give it a try.

  39. OneWorldGovernment

    That would be Communist Germany.

  40. OneWorldGovernment

    Armadillo
    #2729391, posted on June 6, 2018 at 2:15 am

    Who are these people put out of work as a result of “unfair” US trade policies?

    Rhetorical question? I only just arrived.

    JC may have flummed that.

  41. OneWorldGovernment

    JC

    Whatever happened to the ATO chappy and son and daughter that ripped off something like AUD$20million?

  42. OneWorldGovernment

    Peter Costello = Tax Thief
    John Howard = Property Thief

  43. OneWorldGovernment

    John Howard changed property law that has led to this massive theft of so called wind and so called solar electricity.

    Why?

    To protect his brother who fucked up with coal mines.

    Have a go at me John.

  44. OneWorldGovernment

    And John Howard fast tracked Malcolm Turnbull into the pardeeee.

  45. Zatara

    The US has an unemployment rate of 3,8%

    That number is still as bullshit as it was in the Obama days because the totally bizarre and unrealistic means by which it is derived haven’t changed. In short, that term doesn’t mean what the public thinks it means.

    Has unemployment gotten better? Certainly. Does that mean that all but 3.8% of able bodied, work capable Americans are in full time employment and off welfare? Not by a very long shot. And as long as one American who is capable of work is instead collecting welfare the US needs no more immigrants nor suffer trade policies which employ foreigners at the expense of their own.

    Steel protectionism? This isn’t about economics or employment. It’s about maintaining the national capability to turn ore into steel things like vehicles, ships, tanks, guns, and bayonets, rather than ceding that capability to one’s potential enemies.

    “Hello China? We’d like 10,000 tons of super duper steel to make our new fleet of submarines please. Yes of course we’ll be happy to e-mail you all our secrets for how to make that steel, just send the finished products along when you get the chance.”

  46. Zatara

    The Real Unemployment Number: 102 Million Working Age Americans Do Not Have A Job

    … the truth is that the official “unemployment rate” that the mainstream media endlessly hypes is so manipulated that it has essentially lost all meaning at this point.

  47. OneWorldGovernment

    Tony Abbott was set up to fail.

    Only Malcolm can lead the pardeeeeeeeeeee.

    Lucy and Malcolm are Howards choice.

  48. OWG;

    And Gaza should be flattened and reman an Australian province because Australia kicked the useless Turks out of the place.

    When you look at that shithole, the smashed and derelict hi rise buildings, you start to get a sense of…
    What a great fishing pier that concrete would make!
    Bulldoze the whole stinking place into the sea and make a fishing pier out of it!

  49. Neil

    Peter Costello = Tax Thief
    John Howard = Property Thief

    What a stupid comment. given the fact that H/C are human beings I doubt we will get better politicians for a long time. In fact it is comment like yours which may stop some talented people going into politics. H/C left zero govt debt and a booming economy. It is not easy to run surplus budgets because it means you have to control your spending and H/C ran 9 surplus budgets

  50. Top Ender

    A tribunal decision to give a racial vilification complaint against the Nine Network the green light has been dubbed a “troubling” overreach by free-speech advocates.

    Sam Ekermawi, the Muslim father who is pursuing the network in the NSW Civil and ­Administrative Tribunal over comments made by Today Extra co-host Sonia Kruger, will have his day in court later this month after the tribunal rejected Nine’s application to have the matter dismissed.

    Kruger said in 2016 that she agreed with a proposal to close Australian borders to Muslims to prevent terrorist attacks, while discussing an opinion piece by News Corp columnist Andrew Bolt on the Today show.

    Mr Ekermawi has launched several cases in the past and received legal aid. He once faced bankruptcy proceedings related to a long-running racial vilification case he brought against 2GB broadcaster Alan Jones.

    That case, launched in 2005, resulted in more than a dozen tribunal and court hearings over eight years, with Nine also joined as a party at one stage.

    Macquarie University academic Stephen Chavura said the tribunal’s decision in the Kruger case marked a “chilling” confusion between religion and race, which threatened the freedom of political speech. “We have a serious problem when a statement regarding immigration policy, that explicitly rejects the notion that all Muslims are terrorists — but which calls for a halt to Muslim immigration — is considered potentially vilificatory,” he said.

    “Surely immigration policy is of central importance for any ­nation, and the character both of immigrants and the ethnic communities that will emerge must also be of central concern.”

    In rejecting Nine’s application for a summary dismissal, the tribunal noted that there was “no binding authority” on how to interpret the term “ethno-religious origin” in the Anti-Discrimination Act. The act makes it unlawful for a person to publicly incite hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule of a person or people on racial grounds, and Nine had argued that Islam was not a race for its purposes.

    Mr Ekermawi’s lawyer, Abdullah Reslan of Kings Law Group, said his client had reached a confidential settlement with 2GB, but would not give details.

    He said Mr Ekermawi’s latest case was motivated by a desire to uphold his belief in human rights.

    “From his point of view, it’s a social justice issue that needs to be brought to the attention of the courts,” Mr Reslan said.

    Court records show bankruptcy proceedings brought against Mr Ekermawi in 2012, believed to have been for legal costs, were discontinued the following year when the Federal Circuit Court ordered him to pay $3400.

    Full article – link but no comments open

  51. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bok for me. Obama reminds me of The Sphinx from Mystery Men, like “you must lash out with every limb, like the octopus who plays the drums.”

  52. Herodotus

    The pursuit of Sonia Kruger by the offended effendi comes to a head, so to speak, right after Credlin’s assistance in highlighting the plight of a mail order bride whose treatment amounted to torture of the most brutal type and murder in front of her children, as described by the judge and recounted by Andrew Ruehl in his article.
    There are very good reasons to support Kruger in this fight. There’s ample evidence that we have imported way too many of this destructive and dangerous culture. It may already be too late to close off further immigration even if our politicians had the nerve to ignore the PC backlash and do it. They don’t have the nerve to kybosh the big climate scam either, so our country will ultimately be further degraded if not destroyed or taken over by another culture now cashed up and not particularly concerned about offending muslims.

  53. Herodotus

    Thanks Old Ozzie for that WSJ article about Climate Change on its last legs. Hope they are right.

    Very well written article. Loved the term “dopamine phase”.

    Link

  54. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The Miss America Organisation is dropping the swimsuit competition from its nationally televised broadcast, saying it will no longer judge contestants on their appearance.

  55. zyconoclast

    Thanks Tom.

    Laughed at all the Com Bank ones.

  56. BrettW

    Why is the disgraceful behaviour towards Bernard Gaynor by NSW Anti Discimination Board not getting more mainstream media attention ? The multiple vexatious complaints against him, by one person, that the board are allowing are outrageous.

    Where are the Hedley Thomas, Bolt, Devine, Albrectson’s etc on this one ? The board needs to be exposed.

  57. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The act makes it unlawful for a person to publicly incite hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule of a person or people on racial grounds, and Nine had argued that Islam was not a race for its purposes.

    He said Mr Ekermawi’s latest case was motivated by a desire to uphold his belief in human rights.islamic superiority.

    fixing

  58. Herodotus

    Lefty press tries to say no president has ever, like Trump, issued statements about employment figures before the reports are publicly issued. Whoops. Obama did just that a number of times.
    I suggest this for a NYT heading:
    Trump fails to wipe feet before walking on water.

  59. stackja

    Paratroopers of the 101st Airborne Division “Screaming Eagles” jumped first on June 6, between 00:48 and 01:40 British Double Summer Time. 6,928 troops were carried aboard 432 C-47s of mission “Albany” organized into 10 serials. The first flights, inbound to DZ A, were not surprised by the bad weather, but navigating errors and a lack of Eureka signal caused the 2nd Battalion 502nd PIR to come down on the wrong drop zone. Most of the remainder of the 502nd jumped in a disorganized pattern around the impromptu drop zone set up by the pathfinders near the beach. Two battalion commanders took charge of small groups and accomplished all of their D-Day missions. The division’s parachute artillery experienced one of the worst drops of the operation, losing all but one howitzer and most of its troops as casualties.

    the bombers crossed the Normandy coast at 00:07 on 6 June, 1944 and released their towed gliders

  60. zyconoclast

    There’s ample evidence that we have imported way too many of this destructive and dangerous culture. It may already be too late to close off further immigration even if our politicians had the nerve to ignore the PC backlash and do it.

    It’s not the lack of nerve or will to fix it.
    The great replacement is the plan.

  61. Mother Lode

    Governments in the Middle East must be staffed by people equally retarded to ours, merely in different skill sets.

    Why would they be pouring money into Australian universities?

    Apart from their mediocrity, meaning no one will ever remark on what they say, the simple fact is they were going to be denigrating Western society anyway. The individuals involved hate the fact that they are not famous, feted and adored, and have no direct role in running anything outside the cloisters, which is done instead by less enlightened, ordinary people.

    They were always going to promote Islam. Not because they understand it. But it is opposed to Western values. Most of them would know nothing intellectually more rigorous than a few slogans on campus or flyers handed out. The only reason they are able to appear authoritative to the students is because they have been reading the flyers longer than them – they have a few more myths memorised.

    They don’t promote Islam because they sympathise with it. They do it because it antipathises with the West. They are motivated by their own ego and a desire to attack the system that does not grant them what they think they are due.

    What a waste of money.

  62. zyconoclast

    Why is the disgraceful behaviour towards Bernard Gaynor by NSW Anti Discimination Board not getting more mainstream media attention ? The multiple vexatious complaints against him, by one person, that the board are allowing are outrageous.

    Where are the Hedley Thomas, Bolt, Devine, Albrectson’s etc on this one ? The board needs to be exposed.

    O’Farrell moves to strengthen hate laws
    The inquiry was ordered by the Premier, Barry O’Farrell, who is concerned there have been no successful criminal prosecutions in the history of the NSW laws and that they have fallen out of step with community expectations.

    New South Wales Premier Barry O’Farrell has taken a swipe at the Federal Government’s planned changes to the Racial Discrimination Act.

  63. calli

    Bok for me. Obama reminds me of The Sphinx from Mystery Men, like “you must lash out with every limb, like the octopus who plays the drums.”

    I love that movie.

    If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

    And it’s Ramirez 2 for me. Chuckle.

  64. stackja

    [email protected] leaders accuse ABC of bias over deadly conflict in Gaza and West Bank
    Kylar Loussikian, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    AUSTRALIA’s peak [email protected] group has added to a slew of complaints against the ABC, accusing the public broadcaster of bias in reporting on the deadly conflict in Gaza and the West Bank.

    The complaint from the Australia/Israel & [email protected] ­Affairs Council comes just days after Communications Minister Mitch Fifield wrote to ABC managing director Michelle Guthrie alleging “Labor lies” were repeated unchecked in the broadcaster’s coverage of the Super Saturday by-elections.
    Colin Rubenstein, AIJAC’s executive director, said the ABC had failed to cover one of the most deadly recent attacks launched by Palestinian militants despite more than a hundred rockets being launched indiscriminately toward Israel.
    The decision to broadcast only two brief news items, both sourced from Al Jazeera, was “one more addition in a growing list of glaring failures by the taxpayer-funded ABC to meet its statutory requirements to be fair and balanced in its coverage”, Dr Rubenstein said.

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will respond in due course”.
    Dr Rubenstein said despite 200 rockets being launched by militants, there was no coverage on AM, PM, Breakfast, 7.30, or ABC TV News.

    “This almost complete lack of coverage stands in contrast to most of the Australian media — including Fairfax, News Corp and SBS — which seemed to have no problem identifying the attacks and the international reaction to them as newsworthy,” he said.
    Associated Press last week reported the attack, during which at least 25 mortar shells were launched toward Israel, as being the largest since the 2014 Israel-Hamas war.
    Most of the rockets were ­intercepted before impact.

    The rocket barrage came after Israeli fire killed more than 110 Palestinians, most of them during a Hamas-led protest two weeks earlier.

    Dr Rubenstein said the ABC’s lack of coverage of the Hamas missiles was “in marked contrast” to its coverage of the Israeli offensive.

  65. None

    I agree Brett W and it is the same New South Wales anti-discrimination board that will hear the Sonia Kruger case after the equally corrupt New South Wales appeals tribunal referred it to the board. From the latest the NSW authoritues are ignoring High Court rulings and my suspicion is that they’re doing so in order to keep serial litigants claims alive in order to avoid them being declared bankrupt to pay costs. As I said a bath perhaps we need to start filing complaints against media personalities and parliamentarians because that is the only way that they will start paying attention to some serious reading the speech issues. It does not bode well that it has been Liberal governmentscand tincluding Gladys B’s l iberal government which have actually attempted to strengthen the hand of these outrageous star chambers. It is beyond chilling it is it is now full on fascist.

  66. Mother Lode

    A tribunal decision to give a racial vilification complaint against the Nine Network the green light has been dubbed a “troubling” overreach by free-speech advocates.


    Court records show bankruptcy proceedings brought against Mr Ekermawi in 2012, believed to have been for legal costs, were discontinued the following year when the Federal Circuit Court ordered him to pay $3400.

    Full article – link but no comments open

    Notice how matter-of-course it is to have certain topics’ articles comments switched off?

    The last thing they want is for their to be any discussion – especially if it emerges that there is an fact a large consensus agreeing with things such as Sonia said.

    If they let Australians communicate in a forum which revealed that the country is not as the activists claim (as a basis for their myriad ‘improvements’) they know the activists will launch a lawfare assault.

    The Australian would not be particularly on the side of the weirdbeards – just that they have to be careful to avoid being embroiled in any further litigation.

    They have skin in the game regarding Sonia, though.

  67. Snoopy

    The Miss America Organisation is dropping the swimsuit competition from its nationally televised broadcast, saying it will no longer judge contestants on their appearance.

    What are your favourite pastimes, Chaylarna?

    Going people, meeting new places. And suicide.

  68. John Constantine

    Now that the evil Commonwealth bank has been done for allowing organised crime to remit vast amounts of money overseas:

    Will the feds now go after the massive overseas linked organised crime gangs?.

    Comrades?.

  69. Gurkhas to protect Trump and Kim at summit

    Relax Donald.
    I sort of hope a few US journos are disrespectful of DT.
    Next headline: “Mass slaughter of journalists”

  70. Brettw

    Where are the Hedley Thomas, Bolt, Devine, Albrectson’s etc on this one ? The board needs to be exposed.

    They are self identifying as being on the side of the Bugmen.
    Never correct your enemy when they are making a mistake.
    Just add them to the List.

  71. John Constantine

    Why not a royal commission into the twenty billion dollar a year remittance industry?.

    Australia’s unofficial foreign aid budget is growing exponentially, and it can be suspected that crims are latching onto this open wound with hunger.

    Importing vast herds of peasant revolutionaries to act as consumption machines for a Ponzi stimulus is one insane idea, but when the consumption activity is remitted overseas, it threatens the very Ponzi god’s themselves.

    Comrades.

  72. cynical1

    He said Mr Ekermawi’s latest case was motivated by a desire to uphold his belief in human rights.

    Well tell the bastard to carry his fight on in Saudi Arabia.

  73. Shy Ted

    The Miss America Organisation is dropping the swimsuit competition from its nationally televised broadcast, saying it will no longer judge contestants on their appearance.
    The few remaining heterosexual males will no longer judge potential brides on their appearance. FIFY.

  74. notafan

    I can’t believe someone received legal aid to pursue a HRC complaint.

    What’s are our policitians doing about the oversight of precious legal aid funding?

  75. John Constantine

    When our elites specifically identify and import the most revolutionary activist peasants they can obtain in mass quantities, and our ABC spends a billion dollars a year lecturing them from a bully pulpit that Australia is a racist settler outpost stolen by a culture that must be overthrown, and our activist cells of godless commos in government fund and train our imported foreign fighters:

    Why is anybody surprised that there is a revolution going on?.

    Comrades.

  76. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume up.

    Sail On – Commodores

  77. Roger

    I can’t believe someone received legal aid to pursue a HRC complaint.

    The revolution is being subsidised, nota.

  78. Mother Lode

    Dr Rubenstein said the ABC’s lack of coverage of the Hamas missiles was “in marked contrast” to its coverage of the Israeli offensive.

    Israeli offensive?

    I thought it was the Palis who launched the attack on Israel at the wall, which prompted defensive measures to stop the motherless-sons-of-a-goat from breaching the wall – we have seen what happens when a couple get through with their knives and guns. Imagine if it were hundreds.

    Still the ABC has handed Hamas a victory. They wanted the press to report the deaths as if it was a humanitarian tragedy against rightfully restive people, as opposed to a PR exercise achieved by deliberately sending your supporters out to be killed.

  79. Roger

    Israeli offensive?

    Rubinstein’s words or the ABC’s?

  80. stackja

    Aussie teen arrested in Lebanon accused of terror attack plan
    Ellen Whinnett and Nick Hansen, News Corp Australia Network
    June 5, 2018 8:26pm
    Subscriber only
    AN Australian man arrested in Lebanon on accusations he was preparing to become a suicide bomber can be identified as 19-year-old Sydney man Ishaq Ul Matari.

    News Corp spoke to Mr Ul Matari last week in the Central Prison at Roumieh, in the capital Beirut.

    He has been behind bars since October 28 last year, when he was arrested by the Lebanese Security Forces and accused of planning to become a suicide bomber in Lebanon, or travelling to Syria to become a foreign fighter.

    Speaking on a phone through two glass walls and two sets of bars from the prison’s B wing for special prisoners, the teenager said he was “going OK’’ and that he had family supporting him in Lebanon and Australia.

    “I’m from Sydney. I have been here for nine months,’’ he said, in accented English.

    He said he had been receiving visits from the Australian Embassy in Lebanon and hoped to be

    released soon from the grim and overcrowded prison, which houses 3500 men on a steep hillside in the suburb of Roumieh overlooking Beirut.

    He did not know when his case might be resolved.

    At the family home in Blacktown, in Sydney’s western suburbs, a man who answered to door told News Corp the circumstances surrounding Mr Ul Matari’s arrest were “very tense” and “everyone is fully aware of the situation.” He refused to comment further.

    Neighbours in the Blacktown cul-de-sac where the family have lived for more than a decade, knew Mr Ul Matari as a friendly teenager who argued occasionally with his parents.

    “But every teenager does that … I never saw anything like (extremism),” one man said.

    “He was always a polite young kid. That’s a bloody shock, (his father) will be mad.”

    Mr Ul Matari prayed at Rooty Hill Mosque and was educated next door at the Australian Islamic College, Sydney.

  81. Percy Popinjay

    Full article – link but no comments open

    TE – there are comments on that Kruger piece in the Oz.

    Speaking of comments, I noticed last night that one of my comments on Tim Blair’s had been heavily edited about three days after it was originally posted. WTF? I can understand Blair and that dripping wet sap Chris Kenny might be friends, but removing the reference to Wayne Morristeen?

    If those latter two idiots made comments about taxation that displayed an appalling ignorance of reality, then I’m perfectly entitled to point that out. They are alumni of the School of Alberscreecheenomics – editing that comment is behaviour every bit as pathetic as the collectivist imbeciles we rightly and unrelentingly mock. Very poor form.

  82. Roger

    Aussie teen arrested in Lebanon accused of terror attack plan

    What’s “Aussie” about him aside from the fact that he lived here?

    His commitment is to a cause that Australians find abhorrent.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle

    John Nolte has an entertaining article today on the ginormous faceplant of “Solo”.

    Nolte: ‘Solo’ Will Lose Disney a Fortune — but Analysts Still Tiptoe Around the Reason Why

    Above all, Star Wars is supposed to be fun. The Kennedy Experience is not fun.

    What used to be a two-hour adventure involving adventure, romance, and heroism is now a two-hour trip to social justice summer camp with computer-animated action scenes.

    Weird how people don’t want to pay ten bucks for a sermon from the Temple of Gaia and QWERTY.

  84. Baldrick

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will respond in due course”.

    … which is short for, puts thumbs in ears, wiggles fingers whilst blowing a raspberry.

  85. Boambee John

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will respond in due course”.

    Translation:

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will reject it in due course”.

  86. Percy Popinjay

    The inquiry was ordered by the Premier, Barry O’Farrell, who is concerned there have been no successful criminal prosecutions in the history of the NSW laws and that they have fallen out of step with community expectations.

    Just read that statement and weep. Gee, are we all missing the very hard done by Fatty “bottle o’ Grange” O’Barrel? And to think – the drooling cretins who replaced him were/are even worse.

  87. Mother Lode

    AN Australian man arrested in Lebanon on accusations he was preparing to become a suicide bomber can be identified as 19-year-old Sydney man Ishaq Ul Matari.

    We really need to distinguish between bedouin goat-shagger Australians and…everyone else.

    Time and again you hear about an Australian inserting themselves in war zones and threatening lives it is Mohammad this, or Achmed that, or Al-Bifuqd something else. Hateful, angry, constipated since birth, desperate to slit men and children’s throats and raping the womenfolk – their entire life blindly striking out at the pains and humiliation their religion imposes upon them.

    Once Australians were known as being (if a bit boorish on holidays) generally laid back, good-natured people, fond of a bit of grog, fond of fun – getting along with anyone.

  88. Roger

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will respond in due course”.

    Rubinstein should sidestep the process and take it to the top: the editor in chief Ms Guthrie on $900K p.a..

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The division’s parachute artillery experienced one of the worst drops of the operation, losing all but one howitzer and most of its troops as casualties.

    I do wonder if those men who parachuted into Normandy, and stormed the beaches, look at todays collection of precious little snowflakes,and wonder why they bothered?

  90. Percy Popinjay

    is now a two-hour trip to social justice summer camp

    LOL. Reminiscent of good ol’ Camp Tolerance in South Park.

    Mr Garrison: “Kyle are you having trouble concentrating?”
    Cartman: “He needs to spend some time in a concentration camp.”

  91. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2729488, posted on June 6, 2018 at 8:51 am

    Disney today not what Walt created? And shareholders happy?

  92. OldOzzie

    EDITORIALS
    NSW moves against those who threaten violence

    An outsider studying over-governance in Australia might wonder whether, lurking beneath our relaxed, live-and-let-live personas and belief in a “fair go”, we are a nation of sexist, racist, ageist, narrow-minded bigots. If not for a plethora of human rights, equal opportunity and anti-discrimination commissions, tribunals and boards at federal, state and territory level, would we insult and discriminate against those whose cultures, genders, religions and sexual orientations the nanny state thinks we despise? The Australian thinks not. To the contrary, such costly quangos and the legislation they enforce is ripe for reform, in the interests of free speech and taxpayers. Australians do not need a race commissioner earning $346,000. Nor, in its present form, do we need the repressive section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. It sets the bar so low that people engaging in legitimate debates can be branded racist for no good reason. The section notoriously was misused against former Queensland University of Technology students over Facebook posts and to persecute our late cartoonist Bill Leak over his take on bad parenting by some indigenous men.

    The handling of the case against Nine Network presenter Sonia Kruger by the anti-discrimination division of the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal is another example of Big Brother overkill. Many would agree and others disagree with Kruger that “there is a correlation between the number of people who, you know, are Muslim in a country and the number of terrorist attacks” and that she would like to see Muslim immigration stopped because “I want to feel safe, as all of our citizens do, when they go out to celebrate Australia Day”. She was entitled to speak her mind on a newsworthy matter of importance. As Sydney academic Steve Chavura writes, “Do we want the state telling citizens what they really meant by their utterances on immigration, Islam and Muslims, then punishing them for it?”

    Despite nanny state overkill, one of the most unconscionable forms of abuse — inciting violence against individuals or groups — has been overlooked, ironically, for too long. In March, Janet Albrechtsen highlighted the vile conduct of the neo-Nazi Antipodean Resistance fringe group in inciting violence towards Jews, gay people and others. Posters proclaiming “Legalise the execution of Jews … Join your local Nazis” have appeared in Victoria, Queensland and NSW. Similar incitement was evident in 2012 when a boy was photographed in Sydney in a T-shirt that said: “Behead all those who insult the Prophet.” Insulting the prophet is a free-speech issue; urging people to behead those who do so is a violence issue.

    NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman wisely is initiating laws under which those inciting or threatening violence on the basis of race, religion or sexuality will risk three-year jail sentences and $11,000 fines. It could serve as a model for other states. The move is a big win for Keep NSW Safe — an alliance of 31 community groups and leaders, representing hundreds of thousands of people — who have campaigned for three years. As spokesman Vic Alhadeff said yesterday: “Preventing incitement to violence is not about curbing free speech but about public safety.” Where they are necessary, laws to protect all Australians’ human rights must be precise and effective, such as that proposed by Mr Speakman.

  93. Geriatric mayfly

    An ABC spokeswoman said any complaint would be “subject to the normal process and we will respond in due course”.

    How many complaints to the ABC ever get past the big fat Lezzo at the reception desk?

  94. Zyconoclast

    On the same page the ABC praise both of these stories

    Roller derby queens prepare for battle in Adelaide

    And

    Miss America scraps swimsuit competition.

  95. Boambee John

    From Instapundit, the USN remembers a WW II tragedy with continued use of a ship name.

    The guided-missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (DDG 68) launches a Standard Missile 2 (SM-2) from a vertical launch cell.

  96. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, looks like the guys doing socialism in Nicaragua got it wrong again. I wonder when someone with find a way to do it correctly?

    Amid worsening violence, Nicaraguans say crisis has reached ‘catastrophic’ proportions

    Nearly seven weeks after a violent crackdown on student protesters ignited a movement to oust the president of Nicaragua, daily life has become difficult and dangerous for a population increasingly in open rebellion against the government.

    At least 113 people have been killed, more than 1,000 injured and hundreds arrested since the political uprising began in mid-April, according to human rights groups. Dozens of others have disappeared.

    “At this moment, we are in a real crisis situation in terms of human rights,” said Vilma Núñez, president of the Nicaraguan Center for Human Rights, which has documented the deaths and arrests. Instead of stopping the violence after the first protests, she said, President Daniel Ortega “has turned it into a massacre.”

    The center has received reports of hospitals refusing to treat injured protesters, and some university students have been released from jail with signs of severe beatings, said Núñez, who is also the former vice president of the first supreme court convened by the Sandinistas in 1979. A doctor at a public hospital in Managua, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told the Miami Herald that the Ministry of Health has instructed the hospital not to treat injured protesters, even if they come in with gunshot wounds.

    Neither the Ortega administration nor the national police responded to questions about the violence. The government has denied responsibility for the killings, blaming criminal groups and characterizing the protesters as right-wing gangs.

    What’s the bet that Venezuelan election officials will be invited in to help nice Mr Ortega in the next election?

    (via Drudge)

  97. C.L.

    On the 5oth anniversary of RFK’s death, John Barron at ABC Online brings the boilerplate …
    It begins with the headline:

    Robert Kennedy’s assassination: The day American hopes for peace died.

    Robert Kennedy had come to represent more than just another politician, more than the heir to an already fabled dynasty with a commitment to social justice despite their patrician ways and wealth…

    For many, [he] was the best chance of ending America’s deepening involvement in the Vietnam war…

    With Senator Kennedy dead, the anti-war movement had lost its greatest hope.

    The presidential election was fought out between two essentially pro-war candidates, Vice President Hubert Humphrey and former vice president Richard Nixon. Mr Nixon won on a promise he would restore law and order and a secret plan for peace.

    That plan failed, American troops stayed in Vietnam another five years. More than a million more lives were lost on all sides.

    Arguably not since Sarajevo in 1914 had the shooting of one person had such catastrophic human effect.

    Not mentioned by Barron: Bobby and Jack Kennedy started the Vietnam War.

  98. C.L.

    Conservative sell-outs watch …
    Via Instapundit, an important commentary by Bruce Bawer at PJ Media on Tommy Robinson.
    Both Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan strongly support his jailing.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/trashing-tommy-robinson/

  99. Roger

    Not mentioned by Barron: Bobby and Jack Kennedy started the Vietnam War.

    Does he mention that Kennedy’s assassin was a Palestinian nationalist who targeted him because of his support for Israel and timed the assassination for the first anniversary of the Six Day War?

  100. Baldrick

    Not mentioned by Barron: Bobby and Jack Kennedy started the Vietnam War.

    Did Barron happen to mention how Bobby and his brother brought the USA to the brink of nuclear war with Russia over the Cuban Missile Crisis?

  101. OldOzzie

    Calli,

    re John’s posts on Split, we stayed in a B&B above an Art shop in the Middle of Diocletian’s Palace – staying within the Palace is worthwhile. I would recommend a Walking Tour of Diocletian’s Palace, and take the trip out to Hvar Island. We took local bus from Dubrovnik down to Split very scenic.

    In Dubrovnik, I would make sure to go to Napoleon Fort Highest Point in city – view over Dubrovnik is stunning (besides the bullet and artillery holes in the walls).

  102. On the 5oth anniversary of RFK’s death

    So many different groups and individuals wanted him dead, means we are unlikely to ever find out who organized it (one and one only bodyguard FFS).

    I leave you with an in-memory quote (so it may be a touch modified):

    “Welfare is the worst alternative. Welfare destroys individuals. Welfare destroys families.”

  103. lotocoti

    I do wonder if those men …

    Dwight D. would probably be accused of islamophobia for:
    You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade …

  104. C.L.

    No, Roger. Nor does he mention that Bobby Kennedy had the FBI bugging Martin Luther King’s bedroom. Famously, Bobby piously announced King’s death to a crowd of shocked black people for the cameras.

  105. OldOzzie

    EDITORIALS
    NSW moves against those who threaten violence

    An outsider studying over-governance in Australia might wonder whether, lurking beneath our relaxed, live-and-let-live personas and belief in a “fair go”, we are a nation of sexist, racist, ageist, narrow-minded bigots. If not for a plethora of human rights, equal opportunity and anti-discrimination commissions, tribunals and boards at federal, state and territory level, would we insult and discriminate against those whose cultures, genders, religions and sexual orientations the nanny state thinks we despise? The Australian thinks not. To the contrary, such costly quangos and the legislation they enforce is ripe for reform, in the interests of free speech and taxpayers. Australians do not need a race commissioner earning $346,000. Nor, in its present form, do we need the repressive section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. It sets the bar so low that people engaging in legitimate debates can be branded racist for no good reason. The section notoriously was misused against former Queensland University of Technology students over Facebook posts and to persecute our late cartoonist Bill Leak over his take on bad parenting by some indigenous men.

    The handling of the case against Nine Network presenter Sonia Kruger by the anti-discrimination division of the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal is another example of Big Brother overkill. Many would agree and others disagree with Kruger that “there is a correlation between the number of people who, you know, are Muslim in a country and the number of terrorist attacks” and that she would like to see Muslim immigration stopped because “I want to feel safe, as all of our citizens do, when they go out to celebrate Australia Day”. She was entitled to speak her mind on a newsworthy matter of importance. As Sydney academic Steve Chavura writes, “Do we want the state telling citizens what they really meant by their utterances on immigration, Islam and Muslims, then punishing them for it?”

    Despite nanny state overkill, one of the most unconscionable forms of abuse — inciting violence against individuals or groups — has been overlooked, ironically, for too long. In March, Janet Albrechtsen highlighted the vile conduct of the neo-Nazi Antipodean Resistance fringe group in inciting violence towards J*ws, gay people and others. Posters proclaiming “Legalise the execution of J*ws … Join your local Nazis” have appeared in Victoria, Queensland and NSW. Similar incitement was evident in 2012 when a boy was photographed in Sydney in a T-shirt that said: “Behead all those who insult the Prophet.” Insulting the prophet is a free-speech issue; urging people to behead those who do so is a violence issue.

    NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman wisely is initiating laws under which those inciting or threatening violence on the basis of race, religion or sexuality will risk three-year jail sentences and $11,000 fines. It could serve as a model for other states. The move is a big win for Keep NSW Safe — an alliance of 31 community groups and leaders, representing hundreds of thousands of people — who have campaigned for three years. As spokesman Vic Alhadeff said yesterday: “Preventing incitement to violence is not about curbing free speech but about public safety.” Where they are necessary, laws to protect all Australians’ human rights must be precise and effective, such as that proposed by Mr Speakman.

  106. It is also well documented that it was RFK enlisted the mafia to rig a few polls to ensure the election of JFK.
    The mafia, one would presume, wanted a payback.
    Instead they got an AG that invented new laws to prosecute (and deport) mafia and union leaders.
    He was murdered. In hindsight, not surprising.

  107. C.L.

    Did Barron happen to mention how Bobby and his brother brought the USA to the brink of nuclear war with Russia over the Cuban Missile Crisis?

    No, he doesn’t mention that the Cuban crisis arose out of Jack’s reckless “Missile Gap” rhetoric during the 1960 campaign. There was no missile gap – excepting the one between America’s preposterously enormous arsenal and Russia’s pissant ensembe of antiquated junk. Kennedy was cautioned about this – cautioned that his statements would cause Moscow to ramp up its tactical nuclear position. He ignored the advice. Nixon knew it was a lie but kept quiet in America’s national interest. Fearful of a Kennedy administration committed to escalation, nukes were slated for insertion in Cuba. The whole debacle only ended because Bobby colluded with Russian officials behind the scenes and surrendered US Jupiter nukes in Turkey.

  108. Boambee John

    CL at 0943

    Part of the ongoing tradition of the fascist left using the arms of the state to spy on and opress their political enemies.

    But Watergate, Nixon, Wussia, …

  109. Boambee John

    Speaking of which, has m0nty been breathlessly reporting the latest chatter on lefty blogs about 4 Corners?

  110. OldOzzie

    Tom,

    as a Petrol Head Lisa Benson#1 wins today, but Mark Knight a close second

  111. Whatever you view of RFK, methinks his assassination significantly changed the course of history, probably more than anything else, in the last 50 years.

    The election of the DJT may yet turn out to be just as significant.

  112. Roger

    No need for conspiracy theories in this instance, rambler; Sirhan was an aggrieved Palestinian acting alone.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not mentioned by Barron: Bobby and Jack Kennedy started the Vietnam War.

    Generally accepted that the American condoning of the coup that overthrew Nho Dinh Diem, and his subsequent murder, was the worst mistake the Americans ever made in that country. Diem came far closer to crushing the Viet Cong then he was ever given credit for.

  114. No theory there were, at least, two shooters. Sirhan fired one, the unknown woman in a floral dress the rest.

  115. Rae

    Bobby and Jack Kennedy started the Vietnam War.

    No. The Vietnam War was started long before the Kennedys came to power. Eisenhower armed the French in Vietnam. When they pulled out, Eisenhower supported Diem against the North Vietnamese with arms and unarmed American “advisers”.

  116. Slim Cognito

    The Miss America Organisation is dropping the swimsuit competition from its nationally televised broadcast, saying it will no longer judge contestants on their appearance.

    So men lusting after women will be frowned upon and eventually wiped out but men lusting after men is to be celebrated?

    We really are rooted as a society under these clowns.

  117. OldOzzie

    You said that, you may have meant this: we’ll decide – Steve Chavura

    It should be obvious to any government official in a liberal democracy that political speech should be practically immune from state regulation.

    So it is troubling that a complaint against television presenter Sonia Kruger for a statement on the Nine Network’s Today that Muslim immigration should be halted is being taken seriously by the anti-discrimination division of the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal, and is listed for direction on June 19.

    The case may well be dismissed, but NCAT deputy president Nancy Hennessy has refused an application from Nine to have the case immediately discharged, saying: “A complaint should not be summarily dismissed except in a very clear case.”

    So what did Kruger utter that might be vilification?

    In an ­exchange between co-hosts Lisa Wilkinson and an inarticulate David Campbell, Kruger said “there is a correlation between the number of people who, you know, are Muslim in a country and the number of terrorist attacks … Personally I would like to see it (Muslim immigration) stopped now for Australia. Because I want to feel safe, as all of our citizens do, when they go out to celebrate Australia Day.”

    In the initial exchange and in a follow-up statement, Kruger emphasised that she did not believe all Muslims were terrorists, saying: “Now, I have a lot of very good friends who are Muslim, who are peace-loving, who are beautiful people, but there are fanatics.”

    But Kruger’s repeated affirmations of the goodwill of most Muslims were to no avail. A racial vilification complaint was lodged on the grounds that she unfairly singled out Muslims and attempted to dehumanise them.

    We have a serious problem when a statement regarding immigration policy, that explicitly rejects the notion that all Muslims are terrorists but that calls for a halt to Muslim immigration, is considered potentially vilificatory.

    Surely immigration policy is of central importance for any nation, and the character of immigrants and the ethnic communities that will emerge also must be of central concern. This is especially the case given the problem of global terrorism, not to mention the integration problems faced by countries with large Muslim minorities such as France, Belgium, Germany, Britain and, increasingly, Sweden.

    Part of the problem is the confusion between religion, culture and race that has come to characterise much debate on free speech and the question of Islam in liberal democracies. Conflating religion, culture and race makes it impossible to criticise religions and cultures without being called a racist, and nobody wants to be known as a racist. Kruger is a case in point.

    Under the NSW Anti-Discrimination Act, which she is accused of having breached, it is unlawful “to incite hatred towards, serious contempt for, or severe ridicule of, a person or group of persons on the ground of the race of the person or members of the group.” Channel 9 pointed out the obvious. Kruger has said nothing about race and therefore could not have breached the act.

    But NCAT still deems Kruger’s comments potentially racially vilificatory and will not summarily dismiss the complaint.

    The effects of confused thinking about race, religion and culture are serious indeed for liberal democracy.

    The usual leftist argument against distinguishing between race and religion is that religion is really a surrogate for race: people who criticise Islam really just don’t like Muslims. So, while Kruger claims she’s talking about a religious category, she’s just dog-whistling to anti-Muslims.

    But, again, strictly speaking would not be clearly racist either; a Muslim can be of any race, so the identity marker picked out in anti-Muslim speech or sentiment is not racial.

    This is proven by the fact some of the most vocal critics of ­Islamic immigration in Australia are Egyptian and Lebanese Christians; they don’t criticise Islamic immigration because they dislike Arabs.

    Just for the record, anyone who suggests after seeing the Today segment that Kruger was dog-whistling is confused or mischievous. But as with a dog whistle, whose silence is really piercing noise, the dog whistle analysis of political speech requires that what is literally said is not what is really said.

    But is it wise to grant state-backed human rights commissions and anti-discrimination tribunals the power to declare what someone really means, despite what they said? Isn’t it especially unwise to grant such powers when it comes to political speech? Do we want the state telling citizens what they really meant by their utterances on immigration, Islam, and Muslims, then punishing them for it?

    The confusion between religion and race brought to life by cases such as Kruger’s is chilling indeed.

    Steve Chavura teaches politics and history at Macquarie University, Campion College and the Lachlan Macquarie Internship.

  118. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Whole Barnaby Joyce story hasn’t come out yet: Tony Windsor
    The Australian
    8:45AM June 6, 2018
    Save

    Rachel Baxendale
    Reporter
    Canberra
    @rachelbaxendale

    Barnaby Joyce’s long-time rival Tony Windsor says the “whole story” about the embattled former deputy prime minister “hasn’t come out yet”, refusing to rule out running against Mr Joyce in his seat of New England.

    Mr Windsor, a former member of the National Party who held New England as an independent from 2001 to 2013, said he believed Mr Joyce would ultimately decide not to contest the next election, raising the issue of an ongoing investigation into sexual harassment allegations.

    On Sunday night Mr Joyce told the Seven Network he “knew straight away” that he would lose his job as deputy prime minister when he and his former media adviser Vikki Campion decided to proceed with her pregnancy.

    However, Mr Joyce has emailed National Party branch members in New England in recent days to confirm he intends to stay on in the northern NSW seat and contest the next election.

    Mr Joyce defeated Mr Windsor 58.5 per cent to 41.5 per cent two-party-preferred at the 2016 election.

    In last year’s by-election at which Mr Windsor opted not to run, Mr Joyce received almost 65 per cent of the primary vote, and almost 74 per cent after preferences.

    Mr Windsor said he did not believe Mr Joyce would do as well at the next election, following the revelations of his affair with Ms Campion.

    From the Oz.

  119. stackja

    Illinois and Texas voted early and often for JFK/LBJ.

  120. Snoopy

    The confusion between religion and race brought to life by cases such as Kruger’s is chilling indeed.

    Steve Chavura teaches politics and history at Macquarie University, Campion College and the Lachlan Macquarie Internship.

    Not half as chilly as the history and politics faculty staffrooms when Chavura drops in for a cuppa.

  121. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2729547, posted on June 6, 2018 at 10:23 am

    Tony still whining.

  122. H B Bear

    Speaking on a phone through two glass walls and two sets of bars from the prison’s B wing for special prisoners, the teenager said he was “going OK’’ and that he had family supporting him in Lebanon and Australia.

    Ah yes, those moderate muzzies.

  123. Oh come on

    Kate Spade was found dead at the age of 55 in her Park Avenue apartment on Tuesday, with a police source telling the New York Post the designer took her life due to ‘relationship issues’

    The designer left a note telling her daughter it was not her fault before taking her own life by hanging and allegedly told the girl to ‘ask daddy’ reports TMZ

    What a disgusting woman. Absolutely appalling. How could you do that to your own flesh and blood.

  124. Siltstone

    The act makes it unlawful for a person to publicly incite hatred, serious contempt or severe ridicule of a person or people on racial grounds, and Nine had argued that Islam was not a race for its purposes.
    Anthony Mundine, Ayatollah Khomeini, and Mrs Waleed Aly are all the same race according to the NSW Anti Discrimination Board! At at least two of them changed their race mid-stream. Is this even better than changing gender?

  125. C.L.

    The Vietnam War was started long before the Kennedys came to power.

    It was begun by the Kennedys.
    They also wanted a war in Cuba – which ended badly.

  126. John Constantine

    It is simply counter revolutionary to cling to a past world where Australia’s corruptocracy didn’t mass import vast herds of revolutionary peasants.

    The race part is unimportant, it is the counterrevolutionary bit that is the thought crime.

    You are either with their revolutionary steamroller or roadkill.

    Comrades.

  127. stackja

    C.L.
    #2729563, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:02 am

    FDR supported Ho.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    The designer left a note telling her daughter it was not her fault before taking her own life by hanging and allegedly told the girl to ‘ask daddy’ reports TMZ

    What a disgusting woman. Absolutely appalling. How could you do that to your own flesh and blood.

    Exactly.
    She has fucked the kid up by hanging herself in the apartment, then puts icing on the cake by saying “Daddy made me do it.”

  129. CL, mon ami. Are you trying to offend the French?
    They have a rightful claim to starting the conflict in Vietnam.

  130. C.L.

    Whatever you view of RFK, methinks his assassination significantly changed the course of history, probably more than anything else, in the last 50 years.

    I have a very high opinion of RFK.
    He was the last Democrat.
    But would exactly do you mean by the course of history over the past 50 years?

  131. C.L.

    The French didn’t start the war between the US and Vietnam.

    ?

  132. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2729568, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:07 am

    France was busy when Japan moved in.

  133. Stimpson J. Cat

    The designer left a note telling her daughter it was not her fault before taking her own life by hanging and allegedly told the girl to ‘ask daddy’ reports TMZ

    The fact that this info leaked is f$cking appalling.
    The media are scum.
    The cops that leaked this are scum.
    The woman is scum assuming it is true.

    Poor f$cking daughter.

  134. Farmer Gez

    The lineup on the Conversation Hour with Jon Faine 774 ABC.
    Kram from Spiderbait, rabid lefty.
    A drag queen who works for the ABC.
    A Yemeni jazz player.
    Something there for all of us. Only the ABC.

  135. H B Bear

    LOL Gez. Sounds like a Lady Waffleworth bring a freak dinner party.

  136. JC

    Proves Artiste’s theory Trump is the first real black president bro.

    Dennis Rodman will be in Singapore for Trump-Kim summit

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tinfoil Beanies on People!!!
    Annie get set!
    Srr on deck!

    The filth start their next big meeting tomorrow!!!
    Take careful note of Point 11.

    The 66th Bilderberg Meeting to take place from 7 – 10 June 2018 in Turin, Italy
    TURIN, 5 JUNE 2018 –The 66th Bilderberg Meeting is set to take place from 7 – 10 June 2018 in Turin, Italy. As of today, 131 participants from 23 countries have confirmed their attendance. As ever, a diverse group of political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media has been invited. The list of participants is available on http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org.

    The key topics for discussion this year include:

    1.Populism in Europe
    2.The inequality challenge
    3.The future of work
    4.Artificial intelligence
    5.The US before midterms
    6.Free trade
    7.US world leadership
    8.Russia
    9.Quantum computing
    10.Saudi Arabia and Iran
    11.The “post-truth” world
    12.Current events

  138. thefrolickingmole

    Dr Evil spouts forth from his volcano lair.

    Hit his straps early with a massive lie.
    As a matter of fact, migrants impose a financial burden on the recipient country only until they are integrated. In the long run they make a much larger contribution to the recipient country than the cost of integrating them.

    Note the weasel word “migrants” lumping in educated and compatible legal migrats in with 3 rd world uneducated mobs.

    In this context, I should also mention a Marshall Plan for Africa, variations of which have been supported both by Germany and France. A meaningful Marshall Plan would require at least €30bn additional a year for a number of years. This is far in excess of what member states are willing or able to put up. But it could be financed by tapping the largely unused borrowing capacity of the EU.

    International money man wants large flows of capital to unaccountable coruptocrat regimes, gee I wonder why?

    The EU faces a wide range of threats, external and internal. From the outside, the EU is menaced by Trump’s US, Putin’s Russia, Erdoğan’s Turkey, Assad’s Syria, and Libya, which is a failed state.

    “One of these things is not like the others”…

  139. H B Bear

    Allah be praised Googles G has only decided to nationally syndicate the talent-less, B grade hack Myf Warhurst and not Jon Paine.

  140. Baldrick

    Meet the ABC’s Top 5 scientists.

    Well that’s not very inclusive. They’re all white anglo-saxon women.

  141. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2729583, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Meet the ABC’s Top 5 scientists.

    Well that’s not very inclusive. They’re all white anglo-saxon women.

    white anglo-saxon women rule!

  142. Chris

    white anglo-saxon women rule!

    They certainly rule me.

  143. H B Bear

    Liars – still trying.

    Beasley’s tissue thin CV ends after the first line. Currently being housed as a”speech writer and policy advisor” hack in Sneakers McGowan’s government as soon as they could parachute her in.

  144. Tom

    With their shemales cowering behind like moozley females, white Anglo-Saxon women are the 21stst century left.

    That’s sure to end well if you like everything upside down.

  145. stackja

    Spartans give way to D-Day in header.

  146. jupes

    Well that’s not very inclusive. They’re all white anglo-saxon women.

    Nah they’ve included the token Muslim – Dr Nasim Amiralian

    See … diversity!

  147. H B Bear

    Bomber Beazley never managed to get himself a safe seat in WA (not enough to go round) so he could simply pass it to the kids like Katter, Old Man Pony Girl and others.

  148. Roger

    Both Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan strongly support his jailing.

    The Establishment sticks together to put Robinson firmly in his place.

    They fear internecine conflict in the fractured Britain their class has created.

  149. stackja

    Realization of the grim losses on Omaha Beach had, by mid-day on June 6, caused Gen. Omar Bradley, a competent and “unflappable” commander, to fear that his 29th and 1st Divisions had “suffered an irreversible catastrophe.” He came within an inch of ordering withdrawal of the Omaha force — representing the main bulk of the American D-Day effort.

    Such a Dunkirk-style evacuation, disastrous as it would have been, illustrates just what a risky and courageous undertaking it was to invade Normandy in June 1944. It was, however, only one of the ways in which D-Day might have failed.

  150. Baldrick

    Nah they’ve included the token Muslim – Dr Nasim Amiralian

    Hardly inclusive without an Islamic approved head covering.

  151. stackja

    jupes
    #2729590, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:45 am

    No burka?

  152. jupes

    Beasley’s tissue thin CV ends after the first line. Currently being housed as a”speech writer and policy advisor” hack in Sneakers McGowan’s government as soon as they could parachute her in.

    No doubt a relation to the republican Kim Beasley currently living large at Government House in Perth.

    I’m looking down on the fat hypocrite’s backyard as I write this.

  153. Confused Old Misfit

    NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman wisely is initiating laws under which those inciting or threatening violence on the basis of race, religion or sexuality will risk three-year jail sentences and $11,000 fines. It could serve as a model for other states. The move is a big win for Keep NSW Safe — an alliance of 31 community groups and leaders, representing hundreds of thousands of people — who have campaigned for three years. As spokesman Vic Alhadeff said yesterday: “Preventing incitement to violence is not about curbing free speech but about public safety.” Where they are necessary, laws to protect all Australians’ human rights must be precise and effective, such as that proposed by Mr Speakman.

    This is frighteninng.

  154. stackja

    MARULAN Hume Hwy near Highland Way
    HAZARD Sheep
    Started today 11:53am
    Impact: Impact Southbound traffic affected.
    Attending: Emergency service(s)
    Advice: Exercise caution
    Reduce speed

  155. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    FDR supported Ho.

    FDR was bitterly opposed to any return of the colonial powers. He actually wanted the United States to take the place of France, in Indo – China, under a twenty year “Trusteeship.” The aim was to install air and naval bases, allowing the United States to become the “peacekeeper” in the region.

  156. thefrollickingmole

    an alliance of 31 community groups and leaders, representing hundreds of thousands of people

    Should read

    “An alliance of 34 cranks claiming to represent hundreds of thousands of people”

  157. egg_

    There are very good reasons to support Kruger in this fight. There’s ample evidence that we have imported way too many of this destructive and dangerous culture. It may already be too late to close off further immigration even if our politicians had the nerve to ignore the PC backlash and do it. They don’t have the nerve to kybosh the big climate scam either, so our country will ultimately be further degraded if not destroyed or taken over by another culture now cashed up and not particularly concerned about offending muslims.

    Sh1thole imports + Sh1thole energy = Sh1thole
    /Trump knows the Maths

  158. stackja

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2729599, posted on June 6, 2018 at 11:56 am
    Keep NSW Safe

    ‘Keep NSW Safe’ has nothing to do with safety like Safe Schools had nothing to do with bullying.

  159. Roger

    Nah they’ve included the token Muslim – Dr Nasim Amiralian

    Sounds like an Armenian surname, in which case she’s most likely Christian.

  160. stackja

    Vic Alhadeff has no idea of what he supported.

  161. Chris

    New fred.

    It’s a trap!

  162. egg_

    Spiderbait

    Aunty’s favourite dish?

  163. Mother Lode

    Well that’s not very inclusive. They’re all white anglo-saxon women.

    Only men can be Anglo-Saxon.

    Women are always simply women.

    As a result they don’t, for example, have to be outraged by Islamic women being beaten – it is an attack on women, not on Islamic women and, as such, lends more urgency to their vital campaigns – such as promoting more women barristers to woman judgeships.

    Similarly, there is to be no component of race or religion when the dollars are doled out for one thing or another. It is not bad that all the top women scientists have an Anglo-Saxon heritage. It is irrelevant.

    One of the most ingrained stupidities of our society is that we let the the activists write (and suddenly re-write) the rules so they can win.

  164. egg_

    Mrs Waleed Aly

    How many devout Muslims think she’s an attention whore?

  165. egg_

    Meet the ABC’s Top 5 scientists.

    Well that’s not very inclusive. They’re all white anglo-saxon women.

    The ones that the blokes shipped to the Antarctic to feed the penguins?

  166. Helen

    Delta A
    #2729001, posted on June 5, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    Just saw the sweetest thing. Amid the 30 – yes, 30! – kangaroos mooching around our van, a joey too big for the pouch stood face to chest with his mum as she gently scratched his back, then held his cheek while she kissed his nose.

    Too cute.

    BTW, any boy Cats who now discuss Kanga shooting expeditions and roo recipes will be off my Christmas card list for a least a decade.

    True story, as I was reeading this I could hear on the telly some traditional ladies talking about cooking Kangaroos heheh.

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