Catallaxy Exclusive – Unfair tax cuts preference tax payers over non-tax payers

In a Catallaxy Files exclusive, opposition Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen has confirmed the results of research the Labor Party commissioned from the Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO).  Mr Bowen said:

The PBO has clearly shown that the unfair Turnbull Government tax cuts offer no benefit to those who don’t pay tax.  This is plainly unfair that people should not get a tax cut just because they don’t pay tax.

This new research follows on from prior PBO research that Mr Bowen highlighted:

finding that $30 billion of the $41.6bn of Stage Three tax cuts would flow to men, claiming men would benefit over women at a ratio of three to one.

In response the the Labor Party’s claims, Treasurer Scott Morrisson has acknowledged the lack of fairness and committed that the government will look into measures to remedy the situation.  Mr Morrisson said:

Any Liberal government that I am part of will never lose the fairness wars to Labor.  The Liberal Party I represent will always stand for fairness and social justice.

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38 Responses to Catallaxy Exclusive – Unfair tax cuts preference tax payers over non-tax payers

  1. Percy Popinjay

    This is plainly unfair that people should not get a tax cut just because they don’t pay tax.

    Then just jack up their welfare, you imbecile.

    Oh wait, that’s exactly what you intend doing.

  2. Speedbox

    I’d laugh but it is only a millimetre from the truth and is really just a sad indictment.

  3. wal1957

    [email protected]!
    We are being led by [email protected]
    Tweedledum versus tweedle dumber…

  4. H B Bear

    “”Hello Mr Sparticus? I’m calling from Teh Ponds Institute. Would you like to have a coffee and discuss career options with us some time?”.”

  5. “”Hello Mr Sparticus? I’m calling from Teh Ponds Institute. Would you like to have a coffee and discuss career options with us some time?”.”

    LMAO

  6. Mrs B

    Women should be paying their fair share. Equal pay, equal tax.

  7. Diogenes

    meanwhile elsewhere

    Thanks to the tax cuts passed by the Republican House and Senate and signed by President Donald Trump, at least 102 utilities across the country are lowering rates for customers, according to a report from Americans for Tax Reform. This means lower electric bills, lower gas bills, and lower water bills for Americans.

    The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act cut the corporate rate from 35% to 21%. Utility companies are passing on the tax savings in the form of lower rates for customers.

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-tax-reform-utilities-are-lowering-rates?amp

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Any Liberal government that I am part of will never lose the fairness wars to Labor. The Liberal Party I represent will always stand for fairness and social justicemarxism.

    decoding fixing fixing

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    The PBO has clearly shown that the unfair Turnbull Government tax cuts offer no benefit to those who don’t pay tax.

    I think Turnbull should include in the legislation a 100% tax cut for those people who don’t pay tax. That would be fair. Even Emma Alberici would find it hard to criticise such a generous provision!

  10. Justin

    I had to actually read this twice, pause, think about for a few seconds before laughing.

    It all sounded so true!!

  11. Up The Workers!

    Methinks that Phuong Ngo definitely bumped off the wrong bloke on the Labor-poxed Fairfield Council in New South Obeid all those years ago.

    The only thing Chris Bowen has ever been even half-way successful at in his career, is drowning the 2,000 undocumented International Centrelink-Seeking , Anabolic Arab, aspiring Labor(sic) voters in the Timor Sea when he was Juliar’s Minister for Porous Boarders and Terrorist Importation.

  12. Eddystone

    Mrs B
    #2731215, posted on June 8, 2018 at 9:13 am

    Women should be paying their fair share. Equal pay, equal tax.

    Liberty quote!

  13. Mark

    So is Bowen saying that married working men in Australia cant be trusted to share their good fortunes with their familes (including their wives).

    I dont know how his family works, but i tend to share my good fortune. My wife (being a woman) and my children are direct beneficieares (as I am of my wifes good fortune).

  14. Norman Church

    Capitulating to the leftist notion of ‘fairness’ (and thereby endorsing its validity) was a central theme of the first budget that the Diet Labor Party put forward after being re-elected – whilst jacking up taxes on those who already bore the overwhelming burden of taxation in this Marxist toilet.

    A tax increase, I hasten to add, that a re-elected ALP can and will restore relying on the very same justifications used by Diet Labor.

    The parody of the ALP position is funny and I applaud the use of ridicule which is a powerful force for changing perceptions. But, frankly, it’s all far too late.

  15. Up The Workers!

    Bowen might also have grounds for complaint that surveys have found that most of the people incarcerated in prisons around the country, are actually…criminals.

    That’s blatant discrimination against Labor(sic) voters.

    There must be a quota system put in place in order to bring ‘fairness’ and ‘equity’ to our prison system. The A.L.P. demands equal representation in prisons for women, Unionists, the professionally offended, Q.W.E.R.T.Y.L.G.B.T.Q.I.S.S.M.A.L.P.A.C.T.U.’s, the disabled, the unemployed, students, refugees, thespians, musicians, artistes, people with Arts degrees, baristas (i.e. latte-makers with delusions of adequacy – the last two categories frequently overlap) etc.

    Why should the rich elite hog all the places in our luxury prison resorts, to the exclusion of others?

  16. Dr Fred Lenin

    The TAB is unfair,it only pays money to people who win,what about the poor losers?
    Obviously Bowen has done a course in the swan institute of Narxist economics .
    Career politics the ruination of reason ,ban it ,talk about ban the bomb these bastards do more harm than any bomb .

  17. Habib

    It’s becoming nigh impossible to tell satire from reality now, we’re well and truly through the looking glass.

    The first victim is the English language- “fairness” now means stealing someone’s hard-earned beer vouchers, and giving them to someone else whose sole economic input is to keep turnover going in the gambling, narcotics, chop baccy, car rebirthing, burglar alarm, booze, porno and daytime television sectors. And taking a nice slice on the way of course.

    I’d have thought it meant getting to keep most of the reward for your effort or investment, and otherwise being left the fuck alone. We really need a lot more helicopters.

  18. a happy little debunker

    This is plainly unfair that people should not get a tax cut just because they don’t pay tax.

    From the man that is happy enough to overtax poor people, just for owning shares.

  19. Kev, in the Canberra dome

    Said it before, I’ll say it again. We are fucked.

  20. MPH

    Doesn’t research by the advertising industry show that 70-80% of household spending decisions are made by women? The dollars may nominally flow to men but believe me they will mostly be spent by women.

  21. tgs

    Haha, last few posts have been absolute crackers. You’re on a roll, Sparty.

  22. iain russell

    Workers Hoister, re Porous Boarders: harsh, but fair.

  23. The BigBlueCat

    The Liberal Party I represent will always stand for fairness and social justice.

    And therein lies the root of the problem … Mr. Morrison, the Liberal party should evaluate the social justice “issues” on their merits, and totally demolish the very many poor arguments they represent, and not pander to them. Jeez Louise ……

  24. Haha, last few posts have been absolute crackers. You’re on a roll, Sparty.

    Thank you.

  25. mh

    This is plainly unfair that people should not get a tax cut just because they don’t pay tax.

    He has to have been misquoted.

    No?

    OMFG. Bowen is making SHY look like Mensa material.

  26. thefrollickingmole

    Some graphs here.

    http://judgybitch.com/2016/08/16/reblog-research-find-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax/

    Kiwi figures used.

    IN NEARLY ALL AGE GROUPS, WOMEN RECEIVE MORE TAX THAN THEY GIVE
    With the exception of the age group between 45-59 (a 15 year span) years old, women cost more to the state than the tax they provide. In contrast, men generate more tax revenue than they cost between 23 and 65 (a 43 year span). In the brief period in which women generate more or as much tax money than they consume, men outscore them by at least 3 times.

  27. Percy Popinjay

    It’s becoming nigh impossible to tell satire from reality now

    LOL. As evidenced by some of the comments.

  28. Pete D.

    This is the e-mail I sent to friends with reference to Spartacus.

    “This below takes inspiration from a blog contribution by I Am Spartacus.
    Please read this statement carefully and see if it makes any sense to you.
    The PBO (Parliamentary Budget Office) has clearly shown that the unfair Turnbull government tax cuts offer no benefit to those who don’t pay tax.”
    Have you read it and what does that statement tell you?
    So it’s unfair that those who pay tax get a benefit, while the bludgers and tax dodgers who don’t contribute to Australia’s financial benefit are somehow disadvantaged?

    More to the point, what dribbling, moronic, uneducated nit-wit said that?
    Opposition Treasurer, Chris Bowen.
    But wait!! I know you want more!! Here is the reply from Treasurer ScoMo.
    Any Liberal government that I am part of will never lose the fairness wars to Labor. The Liberal Party I represent will always stand for fairness and social justice.”
    So what are you going to do Scotty, send the non tax payers a bonus check for $1000 at tax time?
    Equally as dumb, moronic, dribbling and uneducated for even replying in the first place.

    Please God, help Australia, my Grand-Kids need it.”

  29. BoyfromTottenham

    This reminds me of the joke about the Scottish guy who complained when the price of tram fares went down, saying “but now I save less by walking!”

  30. Entropy

    Mark
    #2731237, posted on June 8, 2018 at 9:47 am
    So is Bowen saying that married working men in Australia cant be trusted to share their good fortunes with their familes (including their wives).

    I dont know how his family works, but i tend to share my good fortune. My wife (being a woman) and my children are direct beneficieares (as I am of my wifes good fortune).

    That isn’t how my family works, Mark. It would result in a biblical level demarcation dispute.
    The Way is:
    1. I earn most of de monies,
    2. Mrs Entropy controls de monies, and
    3. The smaller Entropys get de monies.

  31. Entropy

    All you people realise this is satire and Spartacus is playing around making minor adjustments to a similar statement Bowen said, right? You are clear it isn’t what he actually said, right?
    Because based on some of the comments in this thread I’m a bit worried.

    So close to reality people actually take it at face value. A masterful effort, Sparty!

  32. Terry

    “The Way is:
    1. I earn most of de monies,
    2. Mrs Entropy controls de monies, and
    3. The smaller Entropys get de monies.”

    A Patriarchal Hegemony if ever I’ve seen one.

    You should “check your privilege” by taking a short (or not so short) holiday in ‘Section 3’ while “the rest” enjoy some equalidee and fairness for a bit.

  33. Procrustes

    We have really gone through the looking glass now

  34. mrwashout

    Daniel Mitchell explains this sort of stupid argument through an example with beer

  35. Old Irrelevant me

    Well this really tears me up, there’s nothing for it then. We’ll have to do a complete review. Scrap all previous reviews and try again for one that ends differently.

  36. J.H.

    Well Australian politics has never made sense anyway…. This simply confirms it.

  37. Peter

    Not only that, but tax cuts unfairly benefit those who pay lots of tax over those who cheat on their taxes by participating in illegal tax avoidance schemes. I therefore demand that in the interests of fairness and social justice, special payments be made to tax avoiders to compensate them for the tax cuts they would have received had they paid taxes like everyone else.

    Mr Morrison – this sounds like a job for a man like you. That is to say, a blithering idiot.

  38. Crossie

    meanwhile elsewhere

    Thanks to the tax cuts passed by the Republican House and Senate and signed by President Donald Trump, at least 102 utilities across the country are lowering rates for customers, according to a report from Americans for Tax Reform. This means lower electric bills, lower gas bills, and lower water bills for Americans.

    The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act cut the corporate rate from 35% to 21%. Utility companies are passing on the tax savings in the form of lower rates for customers.

    Meanwhile our imbecile of a Prime Minister upon learning the results of American presidential election rushed in t of cameras to shout “Don’t panic” at the Australian public.

    The time to panic was when he metaphorically knifed the previous Prime Minister. We are too far gone now, there is no Aussie version of Trump on our horizon.

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