Western Civ

From today’s Oz:

A female suicide bomber who killed dozens of Israeli soldiers has graced the front cover of a University of Sydney student newspaper, and Jewish students who ­complained about the cover have been “condemned” for ­censorship.

Hamida al-Taher killed more than 50 people, mainly Israeli military personnel, when she blew herself up in Southern Lebanon in 1985. The special edition of the University of Sydney’s student newspaper Honi Soit, produced by the student women’s collective a fortnight ago, put her on the cover and called her a “martyr” in an issue dedicated to the struggle against “Israeli colonisation”.

The student queer collective’s edition of Honi Soit on April 16 was criticised for having a picture of a petrol bomb on the cover and supporting a boycott of Israel.

The Australasian Union of Jewish Students has called for an apology over the covers. “They are particularly disturbing to Jewish students as they display a blatant disdain for Israeli victims of violence,” AUJS national political ­director Noa Bloch said.

“By disseminating publications that sacrifice respectful dialogue … it inevitably causes distress among Jewish and other students who support Israel.”

The University of Sydney’s ­Student Representative Council passed a motion, 11 to 10, against AUJS on Wednesday night for complaining about the publication.

“This SRC condemns AUJS for suggesting the university should intervene to censor a student-run publication,” the motion reads.

“This SRC congratulates those who put together the women’s ­edition of Honi for their brave and highly defensible cover depicting a pro-Palestine freedom fighter ­(opposing) the ­illegal Israeli occupation of Lebanon and Palestine.”

Taher was a member of Syria’s Arab Socialist Ba’ath party, which is accused of killing thousands.

SRC women’s officers Madeline Ward and Jessica Syed said they did not intend to upset anyone with their cover but stood by their anti-Israeli position. “We are saddened some were upset by the picture — this was not our intention. The policy of the University of Sydney SRC and our collective is pro-Palestine.”

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43 Responses to Western Civ

  1. Dan Dare

    If the AUJS should publish a few facts with a different view, the howls of protest would be deafening.

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    You wouldn’t even bother approaching UniSyd to offer the Ramsay money for a Western Civilization degree.

    I’m sad they’ve turned into storm troopers for socialism. It was good when I was there many decades ago, although Honi Soit was utter crap even then.

  3. billie

    why do they so much time on their hands?

  4. Herodotus

    “We did not intend to upset anyone …”

    Lying liars.

  5. None

    student women’s collective

    student queer collective

    = u nemployable student extremists (well likely to turn up at the ABC).

    Madeleine Ward and Jessica Syed (let me guess, lesbians? Bi? Gender fluid?) are all for killing. Killing the unborn especially
    https://utsvertigo.com.au/news/police-clash-with-pro-choice-protesters-outside-st-marys-cathedral/

    The hypocrisy of these two little slappers is lost on them. Not a brain cell between their ears or between their legs.

  6. None

    You wouldn’t even bother approaching UniSyd …

    But that’s exactly what idiot child John Howard has done. Howard is a snob. A total elitist. Having escaped his working class roots thanks to the taxpayer, he swans around putting on airs like the nouveau riche. I doubt Howard knows there are other parts of Australia outside of inner Sydney. He is already squandering a substantial amount of the bequest on Sydney CBD headquarters. He was the wrong man to put on that board. Joe De Bruyn too knows hack. Abbott at least has some cred. But they have all the wrong people (no Mr Craven, you can get your filthy overpaid corrupt hands off that bequest too)

  7. classical_hero

    Take away the public funds for universities.

  8. rickw

    why do they have so much time on their hands?

    Taxpayers basically sponsor them to spend their lives being complete arseholes.

  9. John Constantine

    Fashionable decolonisation theory let’s all those revolutionaries struggling to smash racist settler westerners feel like freedom fighters.

    Even when funded by the chicom peoples liberation army.

    Comrades.

  10. Roberto

    Another faux apology from these people. Why do they even bother?

  11. John Constantine

    These wymynsys will go straight from their Stalinist freedom fighting student collective to running lawfare against Australia’s old culture from a human resources department in a local council.

    Solidarity through petrol bombs.

    Comrades.

  12. JohnA

    “This SRC congratulates those who put together the women’s ­edition of Honi…”

    Umm, is that a trigger for the trannies and gender diverse students?

    Just askin’…

  13. lotocoti

    We are saddened some were upset by the picture — this was not our intention.

    They’d probably trot out the same excuse if they used Ilse Koch’s picture.

    The policy of the University of Sydney SRC and our collective is pro-Palestine.

    Which means the collective wouldn’t object to using Ilse Koch’s picture.

  14. Texas Jack

    We should welcome all of this along with the ANUs decision on Ramsey. It’s showing up true colours for the average punter to see more clearly. It’s hard to call up an army to beat an enemy that no one realises is active and in the field. Equally, the absence of Culture War spear throwers among centre-right parties becomes more acute.

  15. BrettW

    Sydney Uni is more like a propoganda machine for the left.

    You would not want to be a student of the faith associated with Israel attending this so called place of learning.

  16. candy

    I agree with Texas Jack above there.

    Free speech is very important in these issues, and this particular episode lets Australians see what’s happening in their universities.

    Always better to let the sunshine through, no matter what ugliness it finds.

  17. Leo G

    How typical of Honi Soit in its student queer edition apparently to define a “martyr” as a person who suffers death in order to put others to death and to inflict great suffering on people who don’t share the martyr’s cause.
    I suggest Honi Soir and the SRC are painting themselves as a more cynical species of martyr- one that seeks attention by feigning sympathy for a murderer and indifference to the murderer’s victims.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    Now if i was the sort who crusaded a bit id be inclined to do a few mock covers up with the “Honi soit” letterhead and some more appropriate pictures and wording.

    Go^^ells: He who defends the J^^ harms his own people.
    Arafat: We shall never stop until we can go back home and Israel is destroyed… The goal of our struggle is the end of Isr^^l, and there can be no compromises or mediations… the goal of this violence is the elimination of Zion^^m from Pales^ine in all its political, economic and military aspects… We don’t want peace, we want victory. Peace for us means Isr^^l’s destruction and nothing else.
    Martin Luther: base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth.

    Im sure there is plenty of others.

    Tanya Pills-berzerk: “I can think of a rogue state which consistently ignores UN resolutions, whose ruler is a war criminal responsible for the massacres of civilians in refugee camps outside its borders. The US supports and funds this country. This year it gave it a blank cheque to continue its repression of its enemies. It uses US military hardware to bulldoze homes and kill civilians. It is called Isr^^l, and the war criminal is Ariel Sha^on. Needless to say, the US does not mention the UN resolutions that Isr^^l has ignored for 30 years; it just continues sending the money…”

  19. H B Bear

    Thanks Western Civilization. It’s been fun.

  20. Senile Old Guy

    I’m sad they’ve turned into storm troopers for socialism. It was good when I was there many decades ago, although Honi Soit was utter crap even then.

    Yes, my experience too. But I would not judge Sydney University by the contents of Honi Soit. The latter has always been shyte. Only people with nothing better to do, run a student newspaper.

  21. Mother Lode

    The policy of the University of Sydney SRC and our collective is pro-Palestine.

    Which, an actual terms, means what?

    At best(?) all it should mean is taking sides with some students against other students.

    In fact, what it means is using resources put at their disposal to push political lines outside the university – protests, letter campaigns, destroying property.

    This is clearly outside their remit so, yeah, time to trim some of the ‘muscle’ from the universities too.

  22. DB

    Jamie Glazov’s United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror is a very good read.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cassie of Sydney – thought you might be reading this. If so, can you text me? Ta.

  24. Dr Fred Lenin

    The answer to communist fascism is total defunding take away the taxpayers money , no money ,much less of this shit like you do with naughty kids take away their easy life , work or starve comrades , unlike the socialist paradises where you work and starve. Universities Without funding these crapheaps would die ,rapidly . You

  25. Habib

    Taher was a member of Syria’s Arab Socialist Ba’ath party……………. So she was a full card-carrying nazi, congratulations student activists, you’ve well and truly let the feline out of the portmanteau.

    Any decent sovereign nation would defund these fascist douches immediately. Which is why they have no concerns whatsoever.

  26. Habib

    And Plibs is merely carrying on the family tradition.

  27. Paridell

    For those suggesting that the answer is to take away taxpayers’ money, the problem is cultural, not financial. The challenge goes a lot deeper than the source of funding: the same mentality that we see in the universities and the ABC also exists in private corporations, as witness their stance in the ‘marriage equality’ debate and other manifestations of political correctness. There was a time when any university, public or private, would have accepted an endowment for the study of Western civilisation without demur and without the slightest suggestion of controversy. Today, the question is whether any university will even accept such an endowment; and, if one does, how soon the new school will be taken over by the Left, as happened with the United States Studies Centre that now occupies the Institute Building at Sydney University. (It made its sympathies known early on by displaying a life-size cardboard cutout of Barack Obama beside their stall at Orientation Week). It is a matter not of finance, but of rolling back Rudi Dutschke’s ‘long march through the institutions’. That will take leadership from many more players than Treasury.

  28. Paridell
    #2731384, posted on June 8, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    For those suggesting that the answer is to take away taxpayers’ money, the problem is cultural, not financial. The challenge goes a lot deeper than the source of funding: the same mentality that we see in the universities and the ABC also exists in private corporations, as witness their stance in the ‘marriage equality’ debate and other manifestations of political correctness.

    If the varsities were defunded from doing this crap a couple of decades ago, those private corporations wouldn’t have been populated by graduates of said varsities indoctrinated in this crap.
    So yes, the answer is to defund these commo bastards. Remember, most of these “Bernie Bro” type socialists are lazy bastards who wouldn’t be bothered putting in an effort to raise funds.

  29. Habib

    Cutting off the ackers is a bloody good start. Behind their brainless parroting of maxist dogma and ratty Che’ t-shirt resides some of the most rapacious consumerists on the planet. And they’re incapable of generating wealth on their own ability. Starvation should be an option. Or gravity.

  30. Why are Chewish students in Australia offended by a nutjob publication depicting a suicide bomber from 30+ years ago blowing up soldiers of a foreign nation half way around the World from Australia?

    Isn’t that exactly what Mo followers do? Do we not find it odd that thousands in Bangladesh go ape shit because of something done to their fellow Mo followers?

    Why don’t these Chewish students start their own student paper?

    Either you’re an Australian who believes in freedom of speech and freedom of association, or your higher loyalty is to a religion.
    My response to the “Offended Students” is the same as it is to those Mo followers. FVCK OFF.

  31. Frank

    The policy of the University of Sydney SRC and our collective is pro-Palestine.

    Which, an actual terms, means what?

    I’ll hazard a guess on this one.

    A bunch of tatted and pierced dykes with blue hair sat around and came up with a manifesto, press release and various other revolutionary themed texts, then had some vegan nibbles before forming splinter groups. Acrimony ensued but it was buried for the sake of the struggle.

  32. Jannie

    Censorship is wrong and stupid, even bad and stupid ideas should be free to be expressed. Censorship forces the repressed ideas underground where they cannot be seen and are able to exist without the challenge of evidence and reason.

    Bring them into the light where they can be ridiculed, condemned and monitored.

    The problem with the SRC is that they are selective and hypocritical in their application of censorship. They want to be free to express their own thoughts no matter how offensive, but deny the same freedom to their opponents.

  33. Dr Fred Lenin

    There is no need for censorship in true Narxist socialist groups , no one is game ti criticise the aparat ,they know the consequences are drastic . Just look at the former saviour of the world musk since he crossed the aparat, now he’s a capitalist pig , exploiter of the workers ,this from drones who have never worked in their miserable lives

  34. Slayer of Memes

    A bunch of tatted and pierced dykes with blue hair sat around and came up with a manifesto, press release and various other revolutionary themed texts, then had some vegan nibbles before forming splinter groups. Acrimony ensued but it was buried for the sake of the struggle.

    Originally read that as ‘SPHINCTER groups’…

    Probably not all that dissimilar actually…

  35. Me Bunny

    Great to see the Uni of Syd queer collective is strongly supportive of the Palestinians – who in turn are strongly un-supportive of gay rights. You can’t make this up.

  36. Up The Workers!

    Pity Squalid Ali wasn’t in close proximity to her, getting a few words for the Channel 10 fan-club’s edification when she Semtexed herself into oblivion.

    Does she now get to bonk with the legendary 72 virgins, or for her troubles, does she now become one (when her larger, chunky bits are all glued back together)?

  37. Tim Neilson

    Baa Humbug
    #2731409, posted on June 8, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Get back to me on this one when the Chewish students engage in violence to try to enforce their view. That’s the point at which comparisons with the Mo supporters would become valid.

    They’ve called for an apology. They haven’t demanded censorship, or threatened an 18c claim. Just because the “progressives” are legally entitled to do something doesn’t mean that they’re beyond criticism for choosing to do it.

  38. Cassie of Sydney

    Darling Lizzie Beare…have just sent you an email.

  39. Jimf

    It’s comforting to understand that the only graduates of universities like UoS that will be successful are the quiet , Head Down, good values types going courses that actually have future value . Probably a lot of J..ws among them . The rest of these arts time wasters are destined for an existence of fuck all and some hefty HECS debt to squeal about should they be serendipitous enough to earn above the feeble $50k or so it takes to be in payback land. Colour your hair , pierce your lips and tits , get some Che Tatts .. you’ve got 50+ years of being Losers ahead of you! 🤟

  40. Harry Viderci

    The true solution to these problems of violent, hate-filled, mentally challenged, tools of totalitarian socialists, has not changed.
    Stop rewarding bad behaviour.
    Turn off the free money.
    The instant that comes when these now-subsidized, deluded, greedy, selfish, vicious, deceitful, money grubbing, leeches have to focus on serving others (which is the only way in a free society they can earn their own wealth) they’ll have to become selfless, caring, and thoughtful,… or die of starvation.
    Works for me, either way.

  41. A Lurker

    If the varsities were defunded from doing this crap a couple of decades ago, those private corporations wouldn’t have been populated by graduates of said varsities indoctrinated in this crap.
    So yes, the answer is to defund these commo bastards. Remember, most of these “Bernie Bro” type socialists are lazy bastards who wouldn’t be bothered putting in an effort to raise funds.

    I agree. Taxpayer funding directed only to the universities that promote freedom of speech and freedom of conscience, and extol and teach the virtues and benefits of Western Civilization.

    That would narrow the field to one or two.
    Huge saving for the taxpayer.
    Mind you, you’d need a halfway decent Government to enact such a reform.

  42. Tim Neilson
    #2731579, posted on June 8, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Baa Humbug
    #2731409, posted on June 8, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Get back to me on this one when the Chewish students engage in violence to try to enforce their view. That’s the point at which comparisons with the Mo supporters would become valid.

    They’ve called for an apology. They haven’t demanded censorship, or threatened an 18c claim. Just because the “progressives” are legally entitled to do something doesn’t mean that they’re beyond criticism for choosing to do it.

    Beg to differ Tim.
    What’s the point of asking for an apology? It’s the “We’re sorry AND WE WON’T DO IT AGAIN” is it not?
    That’s censorship.

    Furthermore, Mo followers don’t all engage in violence. The really smart ones started a few decades ago demanding (politely) that their religion is protected just like the Chews. They cited holocaust denial as an example. This is one of the reasons why one can not criticize Mo in many parts of Europe.

    Censorship, even by peaceful means (like asking for an apology) is a slippery slope. We have recent history as proof.

    Oh! and just in case my comments may seem as if I’m anti Chew or anti Israel, I’ll declare right now that I am an unapologetic supporter of Israel, always have been and always will be.
    I STAND WITH ISRAEL.

  43. “We’re sorry and WE WON’T DO IT AGAiN.”

    “That’s censorsip is it not?”

    How on earth is calling on a little pack of flea infested rodents swilling other people’s money to stop it or you’ll go blind , censorship?

    If someone threatened to introduce a baseball bat into the mix, you might have a case. Otherwise its just good old fashioned campus repartee.

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