Open Forum: June 9, 2018

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  1. Top Ender;

    Upon leaving port, the nuclear boat submerges – and never comes back up.

    Perhaps something a bit more encouraging, like “Comes back up when it gets back to port.”
    Otherwise good.

  2. Infidel Tiger

    IT I happen to be a member of a political party that supports the scrapping of import duties and luxury taxes on cars.

    Are you?

    Dude, no offence but you’ve shopped yourself around like a rent boy to political parties.

    What is your personal view on parallel imports?

    I mean you no malice as I hear you are a lovely fella and I largely agree with you.

  3. John Constantine

    All their abc staff that know who has done and is doing underage sexual abuse.

    Do they have to keep the seal of silence about lefty pervisions that comes with preaching from their billion dollar bully pulpit?.

    Show trials are only for the enemy, Comrade Kiddiefiddler Maaaaates.

  4. Fisky

    Just look at the pictures of the two girls when they were around 15, about the same time Bob Ellis was f-cking at least one of them.

    I cannot understand how any adult man could possibly be turned on by girls who look that young.

    Bob Ellis was a very, very sick individual. His writings proved he was demented, and it seems the public and the private man were one.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/australian-celebrity-paedophile-ring-revealed/news-story/152f23a6d269437321f8e2f923a82e7f

  5. Roger

    I like the way car tariffs are still present, despite no car industry to protect.

    Barnaby was planning to axe them until he got sidetracked.

  6. nemkat

    The Hewett girls have both got books to sell, and like their old Mum, wouldn’t give a fuck whose grave they’ve got to walk over to make the sale.

  7. Fisky

    Check out the photos of those girls, one of whom was around 15 when the shot was taken. It is incredible that any adult man would be attracted to girls who look that young.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/australian-celebrity-paedophile-ring-revealed/news-story/152f23a6d269437321f8e2f923a82e7f

  8. Fisky

    I can see the spaminator is running interference for ALP pervs! Tut tut!

  9. Nick

    The Aussie Kim impersonator, who went to Singapore, and was promptly thrown into clink by the local cops?

    Yeah, he made a shopping centre appearance in a Singapore today.

  10. Baldrick

    squawkbox
    #2733051, posted on June 10, 2018 at 5:50 pm
    Am I the only cat who had never heard of Dorothy Hewett until 2 days ago? Hell of a thing to be remembered for, giving obese elderly drunk stalinists carte blanche to molest your daughters.

    It’s how Leftards roll, “Here, have a drink. Here have an underage daughter too.”

  11. OneWorldGovernment

    It would take 4 weeks to take over Afganistan.

  12. Fisky

    Let’s try this again. Could any adult men on this thread please state whether they find the young ladies in these photos attractive? I for one cannot imagine how any man over 18 years of age would go for that.

    Mr Ellis was one very sick puppy.

  13. Calli;

    One of those girls is wearing her dress back-to-front.

    Oh goodie, now I can have a swipe too:
    The girl on the left needs a bra, The girl on the right needs something to put in one, but both need a damn good face scrub.

  14. H B Bear

    Annabel since the revelations? Crickets.

    Perhaps someone more comfortable in the Twitter sewer might want to remind her about that one?

  15. jupes

    I would personally kick the guts out of Bradman and those other scum.

    On the sauce a bit early today OWG?

    Could be a good session. What are you drinking?

  16. Fisky

    I can’t link to the article because the p- word is in the link, but I suggest all Cat males go to News.com.au and click on the link of the story about Bob Ellis’s two young victims.

    Look at their photos, taken when they were in their mid-teens. Just contemplate the depravity for any adult male to find kids sexually attractive when they are that young.

    Bob Ellis was a very, very sick man.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    so you think t6he Poofta French were justified to blow the boat in NZ?

    The “Rainbow Warrior” sent by Greenpeace? Bad show on the French part – they should have sunk it, at sea, with all hands.

  18. Peter Castieau

    I don’t exactly remember when my comments around parallel imports were aired in this place.

    I’m sure that the record would show that my objections ( knowing I was a used car dealer at the time-vested interest) were around parts backup, finance and insurance issues and resale.

    I’m not in the car business anymore, why would you when it struggles to return better than 3% on turnover.

    We no longer have a car industry to protect, and I no longer have a vested interest in used cars.

  19. nemkat

    News.com.au and click on the link of the story about Bob Ellis’s two young victims.

    Look at their photos, taken when they were in their mid-teens. Just contemplate the depravity for any adult male to find kids sexually attractive when they are that young.

    Spare us the faux outrage, Fisky.
    The photo is dated 1976/77, and while both are frumps, 19/20 and 21/22 are well over the Age of Consent in N.S.W..

  20. JC

    Peter C

    So you’re putting up the Gerry Harvey defense. You support policies to fuck over the consumer if those policies work in your interests.

    Frankly, we’re way overstaffed with politician who think like that.

  21. Infidel Tiger

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2733096, posted on June 10, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    It would take 4 weeks to take over Afganistan.

    You are the stupidest person on earth.

    I am being kind.

  22. Fisky

    Spare us the faux outrage, Fisky.
    The photo is dated 1976/77, and while both are frumps, 19/20 and 21/22 are well over the Age of Consent in N.S.W..

    Very stupid of you attempting to lie like that, Nemkat. They were born around 1961 and 1963 respectively.

    I wonder which former Left-wing troll Nemkat is. We will find out eventually!

  23. Fisky

    It’s absolutely disgusting that the rap-ist Bob Ellis was never brought to account for his crimes against underaged girls. Every Left-wing politician in Australia MUST explain what they knew and when!

  24. Roger

    Good Lord.

    The housewife on Annabel Crabb’s Back in Time for Dinner (ABC TV show cycling through the household kitchen through the decades, actually about feminism…naturally) baulks at cutting up a chicken prior to cooking: “This is why I buy all my meat pre-cooked” she says.

    We wouldn’t survive a war longer than a month these days.

  25. Peter Castieau

    JC,

    I support the policies of AC.

  26. Fisky

    Nemkat sounds a lot like Tomix!

  27. Gary

    The frequency nemkat defends predators has become to creepy to ignore.

  28. Infidel Tiger

    0, 2018 at 6:42 pm
    Nemkat sounds a lot like Tomix!

    This was my theory months ago.

    Bayonets ready!

  29. Tintarella di Luna

    Every Left-wing politician in Australia MUST explain what they knew and when!

    Good luck with that one Fisky, remember Milton Orkopolous and his chief-of-staff who knew about what that repulsive creature was up to and tried to pervert the course of justice? what happened to the chief-of-staff? Became premier of NSW if I recall — this link has some interesting convicted criminals — check out the ones gaoled for sexual offences against children — every single one — check ’em out – and the Independent in Taxmania was formerly a member of a major political party guess which? — to say nothing of those who got away.

  30. Baldrick

    I can’t link to the article because the p- word is in the link, but I suggest all Cat males go to News.com.au and click on the link of the story about Bob Ellis’s two young victims.

    Here you go Fisky, complements of TinyURL:
    https://tinyurl.com/yc5qhjco

  31. nemkat

    Very stupid of you attempting to lie like that, Nemkat. They were born around 1961 and 1963 respectively.
    Wiki says they were both born in 1960, so we’re both wrong.
    In 1976/77, they were both over 16, though, so you’re still fauxing outrageously.

  32. Infidel Tiger

    If Bob Ellis was there we must acknowledge that many many ALP leaders were there too.

    A quick google will show how deep this peedos tentacles went. Hawke, Carr, Barry Jones, those SA leaders… all must prove they have never fucked kids.

  33. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nemkat sounds a lot like Tomix!

    IIRC, Tomix held the record for posting 36 hours straight, from his mother’s garage?

  34. Infidel Tiger

    Nemkat tell us your theory about flouro lights and skin cancer!

  35. nemkat

    What’s a flouro light, Tige?
    Something to do with the wheat industry, maybe?

  36. Snoopy

    Spare us the faux outrage, Fisky.
    The photo is dated 1976/77, and while both are frumps, 19/20 and 21/22 are well over the Age of Consent in N.S.W..

    Oh dear oh dear!

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Tomix confirmed!

    A cock fuelled whack job.

  38. Fisky

    Nothing ever gets past me!

  39. Entropy

    That photo was later than the alleged incidents, dimkat.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    Bayonets… charge!

  41. John Constantine:

    The Big Australia of the future can’t fight off a foreign power when it has five million of the foreign powers diaspora living inside its borders anyway.

    Oh, I don’t know. They would fill out our Punishment Battalions quite nicely, I think.

    MV;

    Not to just “anybody” Zulu, but we are, or at least were, on a very short list of countries the Yanks have previously indicated they would do business with re Los Angeles/ Virginia Class boats.

    Especially if we entered into a Real Free Trade Zone with the US – i.e. they dropped the protectionism and subsidies on their farmers.
    Actually, it would be a good avenue to meander down. I bet Trump wants to get those agribusinesses that are scamming subsidy money faster than than Shorten can stuff a luke warm pie down his guts.

  42. Fisky

    Yes exactly Entropy. So Ellis was banging them when they looked even younger than the photos. FMD.

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Other men included a local film producer who is still alive and a poet who r#ped Kate Lilley when she was underage, plus renowned British erotic photographer, David Hamilton.

    Known for his soft-lit images of prepubescent young girls, 83-year-old Hamilton took his own life in 2016 after a former model accused him of r#ping her in 1987 when she was 13 years old.

    In the Woollahra terrace Hewett shared with her husband, writer Merv Lilley, a queue of famous men attended parties in the salon-like atmosphere where the sisters spent their early teens.

    Sex was facilitated by Hewett who also slept with some of the men, while her husband had sex with other women.

    When she turned 16 years old, Kate Lilley had already slept with six men and her younger sister Rozanna had slept with a dozen men by the time she reached the age of consent.

    An interesting link, Baldrick. Thank you.

  44. calli

    Open those oysters and set free the bobby calves!

  45. Percy Popinjay

    Bluddee hell – I’ve just watched the Interview – RB is a legend. No punches pulled.

    We need more of this.

  46. C.L.

    Wow.
    So Labor Party icon Bob Ellis was a child r-apist.
    I ask again: when will the Federal Police investigate the Australia Council principals who lavished truckloads of money on Dorothy Hewett? When will police in other states pursue the OzLit figures who r-aped Hewett’s daughters?
    I now add: who in the Labor Party knew Ellis was a child r-apist and when did they know it?

  47. Gab

    Every week I niggle at turnbull with a tweet on his page asking why we’re still paying tariffs on cars when we no longer have a car manufacturing industry. It’s all I can do and I’ll keep at it.

  48. Baldrick

    Ah, those were the days …

    tomix
    #1613102, posted on February 24, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    blogstrop:
    Kipling stayed distressed for the rest of his life.
    The intrusion of reality on fantasy does that.

    Was told that, up in the islands, in the Forties, some blokes who’d had enough would fix a .303 [with bayonet] to the ground at 45 deg., with a tentpeg.
    They’d get a run up, and charge the bayonet.
    The other men would be alerted by the screaming during the charge.

    Can’t remember whether he said they’d ever managed to tackle one of them before he suicided, but there was widespread anger at being left one man down.

  49. Percy Popinjay

    So Labor Party icon Bob Ellis was a child r-apist.

    News at eleven. Seriously, Clugubrious, you didn’t know this?

  50. nemkat

    Yes exactly Entropy. So Ellis was banging them when they looked even younger than the photos. FMD.
    Ease up on the outrage, Fisky.
    The Age of Consent is 16, no matter how old the female in the photo looks.
    You’re making something out of nothing, and helping them to sell books, which is what this sordid exercise is about.

  51. Snoopy

    The ABC’s Washington Bureau Chief is stalking Trump in Singapore. Experts say….

  52. C.L.

    Good on news.com for calling this developing scandal for what it is:

    Australian celebrity paed0ph1le ring revealed

    A P-ED0PH1LE ring in Australia’s arts community included literary figures and famous artists for whom prepubescent sisters were “jailbait”.

    You’ll have to Google that just-filed report.

  53. calli

    None of those people in the News story aged well at all.

  54. Rae

    Fisky (or is that twostix?).You’re being so brave this arvo, slandering poor old Bob with gay abandon, in the sure knowledge that he’s dead and can’t respond. And on the basis of stories from two old bints trying to capitalize on their mothers infamy, again slandering people who are now dead.

    Does it surprise that you are doing it? No.

  55. Peter Castieau

    Way to go Gab!

  56. squawkbox

    Shift change, I see.

  57. C.L.

    Interesting that Trump proposed all G7 countries abolish tariffs and embrace real free trade, and they all refused. This proves that they don’t believe in free trade at all. It’s a sham. Time to radically increase tariffs and force the Euroweenies to embrace genuine free trade, not Fake Trade which we have now.

    Exactly.

  58. Percy Popinjay

    Gab – they just lueerve taxes. That we longer “manufacture” cars here gives them another excuse to levy even more taxes.

    Cars

  59. Fisky

    Exactly right, CL. An Arts Community grooming gang operated most likely with everyone’s full knowledge. The ALP must issue a statement at once!

  60. Tintarella di Luna

    Bluddee hell – I’ve just watched the Interview – RB is a legend. No punches pulled.

    We need more of this.

    Pretty good eh Percy? Paesano and all

  61. Eyrie

    How about we get the marines in Darwin to annex Australia?

  62. Infidel Tiger

    Quite a few of the prominent journos of a certain vintage were part of the “Sydney Push”. We can only guess how many of the gatekeepers are child fuckers, but it’s not hard to work out who.

  63. Snoopy

    An Arts Community grooming gang operated most likely with everyone’s full knowledge and government subsidies.

  64. Nick

    For those whining about what’s been said about Ellis, just ponder for a moment what has befallen George Pell, who has been accused of things he can’t disprove.

  65. Fisky

    I have absolutely no doubt that a certain Leftwing journo has fucked young boys in the 70s.

  66. rickw

    Australian celebrity paed0ph1le ring revealed

    Is anyone surprised?

  67. Percy Popinjay

    Nick – Ellis was a notorious degenerate. The Pell, not so much.

  68. Infidel Tiger

    I have absolutely no doubt that a certain Leftwing journo has fucked young boys in the 70s.

    You’ve narrowed it down to about 2000 people.

  69. Percy Popinjay

    a certain Leftwing journo has fucked young boys in the 70s

    the 70s were the most disgusting time in human history. Every monstrous collectivist perversion we’re forced to put up with now was road tested back then.

  70. DrBeauGan

    There’s a stench of something foul about a lot of lefties. These aren’t just stupid people who have mistakenly absorbed wrong ideas about economics.

  71. rickw

    Every week I niggle at turnbull with a tweet on his page asking why we’re still paying tariffs on cars when we no longer have a car manufacturing industry. It’s all I can do and I’ll keep at it.

    Keep it up! Also need to tackle the LHD issue! I can import a LHD 70’s mustang and not convert it, but a modern LHD car?! Hell no!

    On the way to work in Guam drive past the GMC dealer, we agreeing robbed blind

  72. John Constantine

    How old did some of those scantily clad tweenieboppers look that their ABC used to have gyrating in front of drug loaded rockstars for countdown live studio performances.

    Lucky the after parties were so well chaperoned.

    Comrade schoolmaaaates.

  73. nemkat

    Dorothy Hewett celebrated the end of Tariffs and Protection in Australia, Doc.
    To which mistakenly absorbed wrong ideas about economics. do you refer?

  74. Frank

    How old did some of those scantily clad tweenieboppers look that their ABC used to have gyrating in front of drug loaded rockstars for countdown live studio performances.

    Bingo!

  75. Infidel Tiger

    Kerry O’Brien and Bob Ellis were good mates.

    Keep googling.

  76. Fisky

    Kerry doesn’t give off that sicko vibe.

  77. Tintarella di Luna

    There’s a stench of something foul about a lot of lefties. These aren’t just stupid people who have mistakenly absorbed wrong ideas about economics.

    This Tucker Carlson interview with Mark Steyn gives a clue into how the Left gets away with its foulness

  78. Infidel Tiger

    ABC boss Mark Scott is under immense pressure to clean up the taxpayer-funded website The Drum after it published a piece suggesting women cried rape to “bring down left-leaning artists and politicians” while lamenting the imprisonment of small-l liberal pedophiles who might have a contribution to make to the arts.
    The rant, by Labor speechwriter Bob Ellis, compared the effects of pedophilia to that of schoolyard bullying.

    Wow!

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/call-for-abc-to-dump-ellis-over-rape-diatribe-on-the-drum/news-story/3086503b1b807798d424442764ce495f

  79. Nick

    Nick – Ellis was a notorious degenerate. The Pell, not so much.

    Hence my point, Percy. Who has been castigated the most ?

  80. Oh come on

    Australian subs have two non-negotiable characteristics:

    – they must have an extremely long range

    – they must not have nuclear-powered propulsion.

    The first is obvious due to the nature of the kinds of long-range missions Australian subs need to undertake. The second is purely political.

    Blind Freddy can see nuclear propulsion is the obvious choice for Australia’s submarines. There’s a reason why we could purchase any number of nuclear-powered attack subs off the shelf, yet there is not a single diesel-electric sub available off the shelf that meets our requirements. However, doing the logical thing and opting for nuclear subs is a bipartisan deal-breaker, so we have to spend an inordinate amount of money redesigning an existing sub to meet our diesel-electric requirements, and of course this one-off redesign of an incredibly complicated piece of machinery is going to be both hideously expensive and plagued with problems for years after delivery.

    So stupid. So, so stupid.

  81. Empire 5:5

    The prosthetic eyebrow soy boy from Ottawa has managed to destroy his country’s energy advantage by kowtowing to ecoloons.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/why-canadas-justin-trudeau-just-spent-3-5-billion-to-nationalize-an-oil-pipeline

    He’d be so much happier if he quit while he’s behind and took up as consort to a geriatric pervert Australian leftard journo.

  82. Oh come on

    Oh dear someone is clamouring for attention again. It isn’t getting any, either. I guess it must be very, very angry.

  83. JC;

    There’s a fucking Gerry Harvey hiding under every god damned rock in the stupid country.

    There is a class in this nation that produces nothing for the nation and just imports manufactured goods from overseas. It then doubles or trebles the price and is responsible for the accelerating cost of living that is sucking up discretionary funds from every person.
    Last week, I spoke of the process of buying a neodymium magnet. The one I was looking at was – with postage – about $60.
    I ended up buying the same magnet from China for about $6 and free postage. Just stop and think about that again. I bought an item that was on sale in China and the Australian item was ten times more expensive.
    Is there a way to find out the size of the importing sector in Australia?

  84. DrBeauGan

    Fisky
    #2733182, posted on June 10, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    Kerry doesn’t give off that sicko vibe.

    There’s some different sicko vibes, Fisky. Bill Clinton has one, Hillary another.

    I have no idea what gets KO excited, having his bum whacked by a stout lady in fishnets and a Nazi hat, perhaps. But something twisted, I’d take bets.

  85. Oh come on

    G7 notes: Trump showed up late to the ‘gender equality’ working group and blew off the Climate Change working group altogether.

    What a rock star.

  86. Dover Beach;

    Even considering the pitiful position the Church is in the episcopate should nevertheless tell the political class to sod off.

    What ever happened to the Churches having Priests with balls?
    Any government that gaoled Priests in this country would get its guts kicked through the top of its head.
    Can anyone picture a Magistrate being stupid or arrogant enough to lock a Priest up for refusing to say what went on in the confessional?

  87. If we had a Trump in the LNP he would be dropping absolute bombs given the revelations of debauchery in the Sydney arts complex this weekend.

  88. Tintarella di Luna

    What ever happened to the Churches having Priests with balls?

    Daniel Mannix had the second last pair, you know who’s got the last pair.

  89. Fisky

    Good lord. Bob Ellis predicted this seven years ago, and basically admitted that Left-wing artistic types are more likely to be sex predators. Guilty conscience?

    Call for ABC to dump Ellis over rape diatribe on The Drum
    Caroline Overington
    TheAustralian
    9:50AM July 6, 2011

    ABC boss Mark Scott is under immense pressure to clean up the taxpayer-funded website The Drum after it published a piece suggesting women cried r2pe to “bring down left-leaning artists and politicians” while lamenting the imprisonment of small-l liberal pedophiles who might have a contribution to make to the arts.

    The rant, by Labor speechwriter Bob Ellis, compared the effects of p3dophilia to that of schoolyard bullying.

    Federal MP Kate Ellis, whose ministerial responsibilities include the status of women, was first among many outraged readers to take to Twitter to lambast the piece, saying: “Oh, dear. I wish I hadn’t read Bob Ellis’ piece this morning.” Former ABC journalist Dana Robertson, who is now with the Department of Foreign Affairs in Canberra, called on Scott and The Drum’s editor, Jonathan Green, to sack Ellis, who is believed to be paid $200 for such contributions.

    Ellis named several historical figures, including Shakespeare, he thought might be p3dophiles, and said it would have been a shame if their desire to have sex with children had eventually stopped them from working.

    He named other men accused of sexual harassment, including filmmaker Roman Polanski (who was accused of child [email protected]), saying the “tactic” of having women accuse them of assault in order to silence them “works very well”.

  90. Roger

    This photo of Merkel and the others/Trump at the G7 is a classic

    Indeed, it is; will the photographer get a Pulitzer?

  91. Infidel Tiger

    Somene should ask Turnbull to denounce Ellis.

    That would be entertaining.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    What did the ALP know and when did they know it?

  93. John Constantine

    Australian subs have three non-negotiable requirements.

    They must have long range.

    They must have any power source other than nuclear.

    They must never be capable of deploying aggressively against the Revolutionary Freedom Fighting Forces of Decolonialisation.

    The side issue of the supplying country being a fashionable place to visit, and the submarine supplier being hospitable and generous to weary submarine buyers travelling from half a world away is simply a given.

    It isn’t corrupt when everybody does it.

    Comrade Commission Jobs for the Boys Maaaates.

  94. cohenite

    Trump gets involved in the California law case against big oil via the DoJ:

    The Justice Department argues the cases should be dismissed because the cities’ public nuisance claims are preempted by the Clean Air Act, foreign affairs doctrine, and laws that regulate energy production on federal land. The department further claims that allowing the cases to proceed would violate the separation of powers principle in the U.S. Constitution.

    “The cities ask the Court to create a federal common law claim that stretches across oceans to attach liability to conduct occurring entirely on foreign soil—all without any hint of the requisite express authorization from Congress,” the department states in its brief.

    The cities are clinging to a novel legal theory: that the oil companies’ production of fossil fuels, rather than fuel emissions, is what led to warming temperatures and rising sea levels.

    Despite that novel approach, the Justice Department says the cities are still relying on the same theory of liability that the Supreme Court rejected in a 2011 decision, American Electric Power Co. v. Connecticut. In that ruling, the court held that public nuisance claims arising from carbon emissions are preempted by the Clean Air Act.

    The Justice Department further argues that assessing damages for any such claims would be impractical. The court would need to track down what portion of the oil produced was used as combustible fuel, and what percentage of that fuel contributed to total greenhouse gas emissions across the globe.

  95. Rae

    I do laugh at that very very angry (vewwy vewwy angwy) shit that some of the clowns here peddle.

  96. Tintarella di Luna

    What did the ALP know and when did they know it?

    And given the statistics involved and the number of ALP MPs gaoled for sexual offences against children perhaps the Royal Commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse should be re-opened to include a thorough examination of the overarching institution which legislates in relation to all other institutions which respond to child sexual abuse.

  97. Oh come on

    Bloody hell, fisky. That Oz article from 2011 is pretty damn revealing.

  98. Roger

    Kerry doesn’t give off that sicko vibe.

    The standard you walk past…

  99. John Constantine

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-obama-angela-merkels-conversation-turned-scene-sound/story?id=31620719

    Their merkel twirling in girlish joy, displaying her charms for Hussein Obama who is taking one for the team to get millions of revolutionary islamist activists smuggled into Germany under merkels skirts.

  100. Am I the only cat who had never heard of Dorothy Hewett until 2 days ago?

    No, you’re far from alone.

  101. Oh come on

    The ABC is nothing if not predictable:

    ‘It’s a trap’: Experts fear Trump is being played by North Korea with summit

    It’s the weirdest thing. Trump is constantly getting “played”, yet everything somehow seems to work out his way. Anyone would think he knows what he’s doing and the “experts” are the clueless ones.

  102. jupes

    For those whining about what’s been said about Ellis, just ponder for a moment what has befallen George Pell, who has been accused of things he can’t disprove.

    This is such an excellent point.

    Ellis and a whole bunch of leftie luvvies had regular kiddie sex, but George Pell touched a boy’s bottom while throwing him in the air in a pool.

    The rule of law is dead in this country.

  103. Tintarella di Luna

    More BS – badly bitch-slapped by Jacinta Price for hypocrisy the gormless and clueless BS calls up the Republic

    Time for Australian head of state: Shorten

    Australian Associated Press3:47PM June 10, 2018

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten believes a move towards a republic should be progressed alongside a treaty with Australia’s indigenous people.

    Speaking to Sky News on Sunday from the Northern Territory community of Barunga, Mr Shorten said the country needs to move towards getting an Australian head of state.

    “I think it’s remarkable that over two centuries after first European settlement we are still borrowing a very worthy person but a monarch from another country,” the Labor leader said.

    The Australian Monarchist League warned Mr Shorten is making a “huge blunder”.

    “Support for a treaty and support for a republic derive from two entirely different sectors of the community,” its national chair Philip Benwell said in a statement.

    “Previous Labor leaders have recognised that approximately one-third of Labor voters are monarchist and conservative traditionalists.”

    He says this was seen in the 1999 referendum with traditional Labor vote against a republic and more recently with the high no vote in Labor electorates in the same-sex marriage postal survey.

  104. jupes

    If we had a Trump in the LNP he would be dropping absolute bombs given the revelations of debauchery in the Sydney arts complex this weekend.

    Wishing for a Trump in the LNP is like wishing for a Patton in the ADF.

    Not going to happen.

  105. Tintarella di Luna

    Anyone would think he knows what he’s doing and the “experts” are the clueless ones.

    Well that’s what I think – expert – “ex” being the unknown quantity and “spurt” being a drip under pressure

  106. C.L.

    News at eleven. Seriously, Clugubrious, you didn’t know this?

    No, I didn’t know Bob Ellis was molesting somebody’s children in the 1970s.
    I’m not sure what ‘Clugubrious’ means.

  107. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2733199, posted on June 10, 2018 at 8:02 pm
    What ever happened to the Churches having Priests with balls?

    Daniel Mannix had the second last pair, you know who’s got the last pair.

    Gilroy worried about the ALP that was once traditionally Catholic.

  108. Boambee John

    My Repetitive Scrolling Injury is really playing up today.

  109. nemkat

    If all the snowflakes have finished their faux emoting over unable to defend himself Bob Ellis, this guy was a real badass in the 48 States, and elsewhere.
    Found at Unz.com

  110. stackja

    ALP covering up the past? I am shocked!

  111. Fisky

    I think we have established to our satisfaction that Nemkat is indeed Tomix!

  112. C.L.

    Good on Barnaby for pursuing that grub outside church this morning.
    There is no reason at all for a photographer to be literally stalking him.

  113. John Constantine

    Debellatio.

    Their transnational leftist orcs occupying Australia will settle for nothing less.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debellatio

    ” literally, “warring (the enemy) down”, from Latin bellum “war”) designates the end of war caused by complete destruction of a hostile state. According to a certain definition, “One party to a conflict has been totally defeated in war, its national institutions have disintegrated, and none of its allies continue to challenge its enemy militarily on its behalf”.[1]”

    Warring the enemy down.

    Comrades.

  114. candy

    The Age of Consent is 16, no matter how old the female in the photo looks.
    You’re making something out of nothing, and helping them to sell books, which is what this sordid exercise is about.

    True, but it sounds like a drug riddled scene with 15/16 year old pretty lasses offered up, with no consent given to old men in the literary/arts/journalism scene – at the time the cream of Australia. Well, still is, but a very exclusive group.

  115. Gab

    Can anyone picture a Magistrate being stupid or arrogant enough to lock a Priest up for refusing to say what went on in the confessional?

    Yes. In this country, yes.

  116. Infidel Tiger

    Andrew Robb, former Australian trade minister turned consultant to Chinese billionaire, has bought a Cremorne Point house for almost $4 million.

    The purchase, in wife Maureen Robb’s name, is expected to be a permanent base for the couple, replacing their former Melbourne home in Brighton they sold a year ago for $2,655,000 in his former Goldstein electorate.

    Most corrupt country on earth.

    https://www.domain.com.au/news/former-trade-minister-andrew-robb-now-consultant-to-chinese-billionaire-snaps-up-4-million-house-20180607-h1136t/?utm_campaign=strap-masthead&utm_source=smh&utm_medium=link&ref=pos1

  117. H B Bear

    Yes. In this country, yes.

    In Victoriastan they would all be lining up to do it. As fast as VicPol, Australia’s most politised police force, could round them up to do so.

  118. stackja

    Google search: “alp scandal” includes several banned words even urls include banned words. And the MSM continue the cover ups. And true believers keep voting.

  119. Gab

    In any case, how are they going to know if someone divulged in the Confessional that they abused a child or children? How’s it actually going to work? Is plod going to tape confessions? Are they going to ask a caught p3do if he went to confession first, which priest and then what – charge the priest with hearing confession?

    Idiots.

  120. Gab

    In any case, how are they going to know if someone divulged in the Confessional that they abu sed a child or children? How’s it actually going to work? Is plod going to tape confessions? Are they going to ask a caught p3-do if he went to confession first, which priest and then what – charge the priest with hearing confession?

    Idiots.

  121. C.L.

    No, we won’t ever have an Australian Trump.
    But we do now have an Australian Mueller:

    Former spy boss begins wide-ranging review of Australia’s special forces.

    In a sign that Defence fears it may be exposed to serious scrutiny over what has occurred, retired intelligence figure David Irvine has begun the second known high-powered investigation into special forces since the end of combat operations in the Middle East.

    The first is an inquiry by the Inspector General of the Australian Defence Force (IGADF) launched in 2016, probing conduct of special forces during the 12-year Afghan conflict…

    Now the ABC can reveal Mr Irvine has been asked to examine what improvements have been made within the Special Air Services Regiment and commando regiments since problems began to be identified during the war in Afghanistan.

    2012: ASIO boss says we need more Muslim recruits to combat terror threats in Australia.

    Speaking at the Sydney Institute, Mr Irvine said ASIO needed to do more to reach out to Australian Muslim communities.

    “ASIO is not against Islam,” he said. “It is against terrorism.

    “ASIO needs to recruit more people from within our newly arrived migrant communities.

    “I believe we can do better to convince communities that ASIO is not a threat to their cohesion or their integration into Australian life but exists to protect them.”

    I think we can see where this is going.

  122. H B Bear

    With the Liars drawing heavily on unionists and the ambulance chasing lawyers that aid and abet them this should not come as any surprise. This does not explain their predilection for kiddy fiddling but certainly covers the usual theft, fraud, misrepresentation and abuse of office.

  123. Top Ender

    Boambee John…Like your submarine item. But, but, but, where are the opportunities for political graft?

    New Orleans is just down the road….

  124. OldOzzie

    Cats well ahead of Main Stream Media

    OldOzzie
    #2732848, posted on June 10, 2018 at
    2:21 pm

    Chinese plane leaves Pyongyang after brief landing: flight route tracker

    BEIJING, June 10 (Yonhap) — A Chinese private jet left North Korea on Sunday about an hour after it landed in the North’s capital, a flight route-tracking website showed.

    Bring it UN! Kim Jong-un arrives in Singapore on an Air China flight two days before historic summit with Trump – after North Korea dispatched his private jet on dummy flight as a security diversion

    Kim arrived at Singapore’s Changi Airport on an Air China jet on Sunday afternoon, local time, after his longest trip overseas as head of state amid huge security precautions on the city-state island.

    North Korea’s capacity for distraction and sleight of hand was on show as two decoy flights also made their way to Singapore from North Korea.

    In all, three aircraft – including the North Korean leader’s private plane – made their way to Singapore from Pyongyang airport, a facility that frequently sees fewer than three international flights a day.

    One of them was the ageing Soviet-made Ilyushin-62 that is Kim’s personal jet – officially known as ‘Chammae-1’, or Goshawk-1, after the North’s national bird but perhaps more memorably dubbed ‘Air Force Un’.

    But while Singapore is well within its range, questions have been raised about its reliability and Kim, it turned out, was not on board.

    Instead he flew on an Air China Boeing 747. According to flight tracking website Flightradar24, it took off using flight number CA122, a standard designation for the airline’s route from Pyongyang to Beijing.

    In midair, it changed its callsign to CA061 and headed south, landing in Singapore at 2.36pm local time

  125. stackja

    Prisons will be filled with priests. Then what?

  126. Top Ender

    Areff, Sinc has my email, if you wish.

  127. Crossie

    What a total tosser Barnaby turned out. All he had to do is wave when he saw the photographer and there would be no story or anything worth reporting. Threatening someone and it’s a scandal.

  128. Death Giraffe

    A nation of 24 million, less than one half of one percent of the world’s population, occupying a very large continent is not a situation that will last.
    Various powers must be eyeing us up and one will eventually decide to knock us off.
    If the US weakens or is disrupted or otherwise occupied, we are gone.

  129. Crossie

    Good on Barnaby for pursuing that grub outside church this morning.
    There is no reason at all for a photographer to be literally stalking him.

    That $150,000 Channel Seven interview says otherwise.

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Former security head probes special forces

    Australian Associated Press
    8:01PM June 10, 2018

    Former security boss David Irvine is conducting an independent assessment of reforms made in Australia’s special forces, according to reports.

    The former ASIO head has been commissioned by the army for the review, following a range of cultural and governance reforms in the special forces since 2015, a defence department statement published by Fairfax Media and the ABC says.

    “The Irvine review will assist army leadership to determine the effectiveness of reform initiatives and identify whether additional improvements are required,” the statement credited to a defence spokesperson said.

    News of the assessment comes amid allegations some special forces soldiers may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan, raised in a confidential defence inquiry report obtained by Fairfax Media.

    The inquiry was told of unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations and disregard for human life.

    Defence minister Marise Payne on Friday defended the work of special forces in complex and chaotic environments while insisting the government is seriously examining the claims.

    “As Australians would expect, these allegations must be – and are being – thoroughly examined, independently from the chain of command,” Senator Payne said in a statement.

    Breaking, in the Oz.

  131. Crossie

    A nation of 24 million, less than one half of one percent of the world’s population, occupying a very large continent is not a situation that will last.
    Various powers must be eyeing us up and one will eventually decide to knock us off.
    If the US weakens or is disrupted or otherwise occupied, we are gone.

    Our elites, both Labor and Liberal, can’t quite decide whether it’s going to be China or the Muslim world.

  132. stackja

    Crossie
    #2733252, posted on June 10, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Blaming Barnaby Joyce? Why?

  133. Boambee John

    Top Ender
    #2733245, posted on June 10, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    Boambee John…Like your submarine item. But, but, but, where are the opportunities for political graft?

    New Orleans is just down the road….

    Aren’t USN nuclear subs built at Electric Boat in Groton, Connecticut? Long road?

  134. stackja

    Crossie
    #2733254, posted on June 10, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    Good on Barnaby for pursuing that grub outside church this morning.
    There is no reason at all for a photographer to be literally stalking him.

    That $150,000 Channel Seven interview says otherwise.

    And the media before the interview?

  135. jupes

    So now it is confirmed beyond all doubt. The ADF is out to destroy Special Forces in general and the SAS in particular.

    First they pay millions of dollars for a feminist academic to write a report on SF operations in Afghanistan. (Just think about that for second). Then they use her utterly predictable report to conduct a legal review by the Inspector General of the ADF who then – against all legal principles – puts out a public call for rumours about any misconduct by our troops. Now they have hired a Muslim-loving, left wing fanatic to conduct an “independent” review of SF units.

    Okay, we know Jeff Sengleman hired the feminist moll.

    We know Mark Binskin instructed the IG to conduct his witch hunt on the advice of Angus Campbell.

    So who hired David Irvine?

    We need to know who these traitors are.

  136. Crossie

    Watching Paul Murray now and I don’t know what is more alarming, the security failure at the Prince of Wales Hospital or that the sign on the hospital building not only has Chinese script on it but that it is above the hospitals’ name in English.

    I suppose this supports my earlier comment about who will own us in the near future, Gladys has decided it will be the Chinese while the security guards say it will be Muslims.

  137. Boambee John

    Crossie at 2101

    Our elites, both Labor and Liberal, can’t quite decide whether it’s going to be China or the Muslim world.

    Chinese cuisine is better. Particularly if second hand sheep or goat is the meal du jour in the Islamic option.

  138. Crossie

    So now it is confirmed beyond all doubt. The ADF is out to destroy Special Forces in general and the SAS in particular.

    What do we need them for when the surrender document is just about composed and will be delivered shortly.

  139. calli

    Chinese cuisine is better.

    Fact check: false.

    Slop with rice.

  140. Crossie

    stackja
    #2733257, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:03 pm
    Crossie
    #2733252, posted on June 10, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    Blaming Barnaby Joyce? Why?

    If there was no TV interview and if he just went away for a few months nobody would have cared. The TV interview gave the photographers an idea there may be money in it.

  141. Crossie

    calli
    #2733264, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:13 pm
    Chinese cuisine is better.

    Fact check: false.

    Slop with rice.

    Calli, you may be right. Friends who have been to China tell me that the food is inedible, what we get here is far from authentic Chinese cuisine. One friend just ate rice until she got back to Hong Kong.

  142. C.L.

    What a total tosser Barnaby turned out. All he had to do is wave when he saw the photographer and there would be no story or anything worth reporting. Threatening someone and it’s a scandal.

    The obese grub has been following Barnaby for days; that’s why Joyce confronted him, camera on.
    The fact that Joyce gave an interview is not a green light to be stalked in the street.
    And the ‘threat’ allegation is total bullshit.

  143. Nick

    Calli, you may be right. Friends who have been to China tell me that the food is inedible, what we get here is far from authentic Chinese cuisine. One friend just ate rice until she got back to Hong Kong.

    It’s not that bad. I’ve had some great dishes in out of the way parts of China. Dim sum in HK is great, though the rest of Cantonese food lacks variety and heat.

  144. Top Ender

    Richo attacks Shorten.

    Bill seems to be moving steadily leftwards. Maybe he’s trying to stave off Albo, or does he think hijacking Green votes will get him across the line to the Lodge?

    Bill Shorten, where have you been?
    The Australian5:41PM June 10, 2018

    The problem of sexual abuse of children as young as two in Aboriginal communities across the country has received widespread publicity over the last year or two. This is a healthy development, because too many of us knew of the problem and did nothing to fix it. Too many of us feared being dubbed “racist” or felt that our indigenous people should deal with the problem themselves. This conspiracy of silence simply meant that more and more children were subjected to the most vicious forms of abuse.

    You would be entitled to believe that Labor leader Bill Shorten’s ears would have pricked up, particularly after the details of those horrific attacks in Tennant Creek were revealed.

    Apparently one of the few people who missed all of this was the Opposition Leader. He claimed at the Barunga Festival this week that “whitefellas” who “come in paternalistic” have no business involving themselves in taking Aboriginal children away from their homes. He believes that indigenous Australians should be given “self-determination” on this issue. This is the solution which got us to where we are in the first place. Doesn’t Shorten realise that every year thousands of white or “non-Aboriginal” children are taken from their parents?

    When I was Social Security Minister in 1991 I visited a group of children to whom the government was providing assistance to live away from home. I had been criticised by a number of Senators, including the highly conservative Brian Harradine, that I was destroying the concept of “family”. I was accused of keeping children away from their homes which were safe havens for them. Well-meaning the social conservatives may have been, but they were quite ignorant of the ugly world which existed away from their nice suburbs and white picket fences.

    A 14-year-old girl in Melbourne had been so frequently sexually abused by her stepfather that she had run away and lived “rough” because she said that despite that lifestyle being inherently dangerous, it was far better than being raped at home on a regular basis. A 15-year-old in Sydney recounted how his mother had given him $2 when she dropped him off and told him not to come home because her new boyfriend didn’t want him around. There are plenty of happy homes but for some unfortunate kids their homes are houses of horror. How many more indigenous children will we leave in harm’s way? How many more times will the failure of State departments with responsibility for the welfare of children be hauled over the coals for failing to remove kids in danger from their home environment.

    READ MORE
    Barunga Day 1‘The most paternalistic whitefella’RACHEL BAXENDALE
    Drugs and alcohol affect adults and children in both indigenous and non-indigenous communities but there is no doubt those problems are far worse in remote communities where there is zero prospect of getting a job. Some “whitefellas” will have to be involved if we are ever to bridge the gap. That gap is too often determined by health, school attendance and completion or housing. These are all extremely important issues but they pale in comparison to the right of children to be free from violence or sexual abuse.

    There may well be merit in the Treaty of which the Opposition Leader is talking about but the rights of those kids must come first. We don’t complain when a child at risk is taken from a home in suburbia and we need to be consistent in applying our outrage.

    Mr best advice to Bill Shorten is to stop playing up to the audience he is addressing. Bill, other audiences hear and compare notes.

    Link

  145. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    The inquiry was told of unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations and disregard for human life.

    So fucking what. They blow us up, ram us with trucks and cars and stab us at random. Kill them and then go back and kill the camel and the goat.

  146. C.L.

    David Irvine virtually fell over himself to defend Muslims back in 2014:

    Blaming Australian Muslims for extremists grossly unfair: ASIO’s David Irvine

    ASIO director-general David Irvine has moved to reassure Muslim Australians during the debate on enhanced counterterrorism laws, saying it is “grossly unfair’’ and wrong to blame them for the sins of a tiny minority of extremists.

    Mr Irvine also says 15 Australians are believed to have died fighting for Islamic extremists during the current conflict in Syria and Iraq.

    Speaking at the National Press Club in Canberra, Mr Irvine said the security agency recognised “that the tiny number of violent extremists, who nevertheless can make a rather big bang, does not represent the Islamic communities of Australia’’.

    “We’re talking about a few hundred aberrant souls in the community of half a million Muslims and it is grossly unfair to blame Australian Muslims who see themselves as a committed component of Australia’s multicultural society.’’

    Mr Irvine stressed that it was “wrong to be blaming them for the sins of a tiny minority’’.

    “And has the government has said increasingly in recent times, our fight is with terrorism. It is not with Islam and it is not with our Muslim community.’’

    Against the backdrop of the Abbott government seeking increased counterterrorism powers, Mr Irvine said over the past two years the unfolding situation in Syria and Iraq had “radically complicated the threat adding energy and allure to the extremist Islamic narrative’’.

    “The draw of foreign fighters to Syria and Iraq is significant and includes more Australians than any other previous extremist conflict put together. The number of Australians of potential security concern to ASIO and our law enforcement partners has increased substantially,’’ he said.

    Mr Irvine said ASIO believed there were about 60 Australians fighting with the two principal extremist al-Qa’ida derivatives — the Islamic State and al-Nusra.

    “We believe 15 Australians have already been killed in the current conflicts, including two young Australian suicide bombers,’’ he said.

    Another 100 people in Australian, Mr Irvine added, were actively supporting these extremist groups including recruiting new fighters to go overseas, grooming potential suicide candidates and providing funding and equipment

    “Not all of Australians currently in Iraq and Syria will return but some tens of Australians have already returned and a good number of these remain of concern to the security authorities.

    “People who have returned with potentially enhanced religious commitment to violence and commitment to violence in the name of a distorted brand of Islam as well as having had training in the use of weapons, bomb making and so on,’’ he said.

    The terrorist threat, he said, would be with Australians for some time into the future but it was important not to all that to “panic us’’ or “dominate our lives’’.

    “ASIO recognises that the tiny number of violent extremists who nevertheless can make a rather big bang does not represent the Islamic communities of Australia,’’ he said.

    Earlier today, Foreign Minister Julie Bishop repeated the warning that a “significant number” of Australians were taking up “leadership roles” within the Islamic State terrorist organisation.

    Just a “few hundred” Muslims willing to commit mass murder.
    No different to Methodists, really.

  147. That rice is even being mentioned says southern China.
    Northern China grows wheat.

  148. Fisky

    Jonathan Chait

    @jonathanchait

    More
    Important @cristianafarias column on how Trump’s legal attack on Obamacare destroys another norm upholding the rule of law

    This clown. Your hero Obama wrote the fucking manual on undermining existing law by not defending it in court.

  149. Crossie

    Richo attacks Shorten.

    Bill seems to be moving steadily leftwards. Maybe he’s trying to stave off Albo, or does he think hijacking Green votes will get him across the line to the Lodge?

    Shorten may actually be trying to outflank Plibersek on the left. Let’s face it, everyone in Labor can only move further left. They have completely abandoned the working classes and the aspirational in western Sydney and Melbourne. The problem is that Malcolm et al are also trying to out-Left the Labor.

  150. H B Bear

    Peanut Head better get out and start working those by-elections. The clock is ticking on this Liar stooge and plenty of people are making it clear they would be quite happy to see him go.

  151. Fisky

    If Shorten loses 1-2 byelections he is probably toast and will be replaced by the open borders extremist Albanese.

  152. Crossie

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2733272, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    The inquiry was told of unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations and disregard for human life.

    So fucking what. They blow us up, ram us with trucks and cars and stab us at random. Kill them and then go back and kill the camel and the goat.

    That’s about the size of it.

  153. John Constantine

    The relative productivity hypothesis.

    Once it has been decided that male and wymynsys recruits to australias military are equal and interchangeable, the roles to be carried out must of necessity level away so we have true productive relativism.

    Men who would otherwise be capable of deployment to hostile warzones must instead fetch and carry supplies for wymynsys led helping and saving missions to storm ravaged islands in the pacific, and fill and stack sandbags in times of flood.

    Fashionable Decolonialisation theory now teaches us that third world peasant goat botherers armed with rocket propelled grenades and AK-47 peace rifles are morally relative to any freedom fighters anywhere anytime, so are literally fighting Nazis when they line up against Australian forces.

    Stalinist moral relativism teaches there is no Truth, except that we must unswervingly comply with the required mass importation of millions of revolutionary freedom fighters from the far reaches of the peasant world, because our anti-western revolutionary activist masses are our strength.

    Comrades.

  154. What a total tosser Barnaby turned out. All he had to do is wave when he saw the photographer and there would be no story or anything worth reporting. Threatening someone and it’s a scandal.

    After umpteen weeks of having grubs like that hiding under bushes outside his house, of camera-drones flying over his house, and every time he turns around, one of those grubs is shadowing him, his daughters have to draw their curtains, as there’s often a pack of the bastards camped at the gate, hoping for a silhouette of one of his daughters on the dunny,

    It is a wonder Barnaby restricted himself to enquiring who the slug was employed by.
    Contrary to what the germ alleged, Barnaby was not threatening him.

    They follow the bloke everywhere, camp in a mob on his daughters’ footpath, lurk in the bushes like they’re poo-joggers looking for a secluded dump-spot, then whine like sooks about “police reports” when he challenges them.

    They’re lucky he hasn’t arranged for them to have their lights punched out.

  155. Mindfree

    Paul Murray showing what a complete cockhead he is

    Has Terry Barnes on the program (with idiot Fiona Patten) who shows a modicum of common sense over the SAS but allows that complete airhead Fiona Patten dominate the conversation and declares the SAS are guilty of war crimes – Murray says nothing and even goes to say that the witch hunt (which Ricardo brilliantly dismantled on Outsides) is justified

    Fuck Paul Murray and his faux (leftist) conservative BS

  156. C.L.

    See what Irvine did there? He hid “few hundred” in plain sight.

    “We’re talking about a few hundred aberrant souls in the community of half a million Muslims …”

    You have to love that breezy, casual “few.”

    Why is it that the other 23.5 million Australians produce zero terrorists – zero – but a tiny half million sample (Muslims) produces a few hundred? Not one or two but a few hundred.

  157. Crossie

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2733272, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    The inquiry was told of unsanctioned and illegal application of violence on operations and disregard for human life.

    So fucking what. They blow us up, ram us with trucks and cars and stab us at random. Kill them and then go back and kill the camel and the goat.

    What’s more, this illustrates perfectly the divide in our society. The elites have one idea of how our country should be while the normal man in the street thinks differently, and I use the term man deliberately just to annoy the luvvies. Even as recently as 20 years ago there was a loose consensus as to what is the norm whereas now we are diametrically opposed. The elites are now so sure of their power that they don’t think they need to consider the rest of the country. That we are not taking them to account simply confirms their assumption.

  158. Crossie

    After umpteen weeks of having grubs like that hiding under bushes outside his house, of camera-drones flying over his house, and every time he turns around, one of those grubs is shadowing him, his daughters have to draw their curtains, as there’s often a pack of the bastards camped at the gate, hoping for a silhouette of one of his daughters on the dunny,

    Cry me a river. If he didn’t give himself the permission to act as an aged Casanova none of this would be an issues. That rubbish about you can’t help who you fall in love with is just that – rubbish, you certainly can help what you do about it.

  159. Crossie

    Fuck Paul Murray and his faux (leftist) conservative BS

    I think he said before that he is not conservative but libertarian.

  160. max

    Mr best advice to Bill Shorten is to stop playing up to the audience he is addressing. Bill, other audiences hear and compare notes.

    Shorten’s speech in reply to the budget has, for the past few years, been supported by a stacked public gallery which has punctuated the whole speech with raucous applause. It’s infantile.

    It didn’t happen in the past, but modern Labor is little more than ugly Hollywood applauding itself.

  161. Top Ender

    Those who want to geld the armed forces of the West will never stop. They use emotion rather than logic, and will argue simplistically about “rules” in combat situations.

    They will argue it is never Ok to target a civilian. Of course it is.

    They will say it can never be the case to execute a prisoner. There are such situations where it’s necessary.

    They will argue you must never shoot at wounded enemy. There are plenty of occasions where it’s imperative.

    They will put lawyers more and more into the theatre, probably using drones in all sorts of situations. They will burden soldiers down with impossible rules and then court-martial them for doing what is necessary.

  162. Cry me a river. If he didn’t give himself the permission to act as an aged Casanova none of this would be an issues. That rubbish about you can’t help who you fall in love with is just that – rubbish, you certainly can help what you do about it.

    Please do not mistake my comment as being pro-Joyce.
    I’m just a whole lot more anti-Paparazzi than I am anti-Barnaby.

    Just coz he’s rooted around on his wife, and turned the lives of his kids upside down, does not excuse photographers hiding under every Athol pine around his house.

  163. stackja

    Crossie
    #2733289, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Who else is as perfect as you are?

  164. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You have to love that breezy, casual “few.”

    Why is it that the other 23.5 million Australians produce zero terrorists – zero – but a tiny half million sample (Muslims) produces a few hundred? Not one or two but a few hundred.

    I’m sure the patrons of the Lindt Cafe derived great comfort from the fact that Man Barking Mad Monis was “one of a few…”

  165. Top Ender: Re the submarine article. Well done. It should run as an opinion piece in a metropolitan major newspaper.

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They will burden soldiers down with impossible rules and then court-martial them for doing what is necessary.

    And wonder why enlistment figures are down, and no -one is re-enlisting, and the same few faces are being deployed, over and over..

  167. JC

    Jupes

    Where the hell is Jim Mollen in all this?

  168. Crossie

    Crossie
    #2733289, posted on June 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Who else is as perfect as you are?

    How did it happen that we must never point out the hypocrisy of our elected officials?

  169. zyconoclast

    Harvey Ballard #MeToo hypocrite:

    Comedian Tom Ballard denies sexual assault claims
    POPULAR comedian and broadcaster Tom Ballard has published a statement denying claims he sexually assaulted an aspiring comedian.
    A man took to social media on Saturday, alleging Ballard had indecently assaulted him in a hotel room in June 2014.
    “His version of that experience as described on social media is simply not what happened. This false claim has been spread via social media, text messages and gossip. It has been deeply distressing for me, my friends and my family. It has affected my work and my mental health,” Ballard added.
    The man complained to police, but he claims the investigation didn’t go further because Ballard “hadn’t gone outside of the confines of the law”.
    Ballard, a former Triple J host, added: “I abhor sexual assault and sexual violence. I absolutely support the philosophy of the #MeToo movement

    The biggest crime is to call him a comedian.
    We need to reinstate capital punishment just for this.

  170. Boambee John

    Top Ender

    They will put lawyers more and more into the theatre, probably using drones in all sorts of situations. They will burden soldiers down with impossible rules and then court-martial them for doing what is necessary.

    Put the lawyer in command, responsible for the mission, and watch the ROE change.

  171. John Constantine

    Bit hard to ambush the enemy when all Australian units in a war zone have a fleet of remotely operated camera drones hovering above them so lawyers based back in inner city Australian offices can monitor all actions for infringements against moral relativism and the Will of Stalin.

    Wouldn’t want to wipe your arse with leaves torn from an endangered plant species or anything.

  172. Boambee John

    Particularly if the lawyer is required to operate in the field, not from a base.

  173. Top Ender

    From my published research of a few years back:

    Soldiers in close infantry combat routinely presume the enemy is dangerous unless obeying all of the rules of surrender. Some battle killing of wounded enemy is done as a precaution: the wounded soldier is still a danger. So, as Sergeant Audie Murphy relates when he shot enemy wounded after taking a position. “I step around him and examine other foxholes. Each contains a body or two. One stirs, and I give it a burst as a precaution.” Failure to ensure the dead are indeed despatched can result in capture, as two Germans who approached an apparently departed Allied officer found out in 1944 France. Feigning death, the officer was turned over by a German, who failed to ensure death or take the “corpse’s” revolver. As soon as they turned their back, the officer jumped to his feet and took them prisoner.

    A German soldier came across three US paratroopers landing in D-Day. He shot one in the stomach who was on the ground, and then turned to finish the other two who were hanging in their harnesses on the side of a church: they had come down on its roof and slid off. But the trooper on the ground fished out his .45 pistol and shot the German. US infantryman Bruce Zorns was wounded in a fight against an SS unit in early 1945. He fell to the snow-covered ground and as the battle withdrew from his position he eventually saw two SS troops come forward to the wounded and dead Americans and begin bayoneting them. The two were eventually alarmed at something out of Zorn’s vision and fled before they got to him. Ironically, he was later picked up from the battlefield by two other Germans soldiers, who carried him in a wheelbarrow for some time to a field hospital.

    Wounded enemy who still fight draw a variety of responses. After a battle in North Africa Major Robert Daniell and a party investigated the forward positions and found many German wounded in an anti-tank trench. They started giving them water and a medical doctor with them began tending one of them, when “I saw a Germans rise up on his feet and have a shot at him with a revolver”. The Major told the wounded they could tend to themselves, and the British withdrew.

    Marine William Manchester quotes communications to the Marine Corps Commander about the Guadalcanal fighting: “General, I have never heard or read of this kind of fighting. These people refuse to surrender. The wounded will wait until men come up to examine them…and blow themselves and the other fellow to death with a hand grenade”. Just because a Japanese was badly wounded did not mean he was not a willing combatant. Marine Major Frank O. Hough described a final Japanese charge where behind the enemy forward formation followed “bandage-swathed men, amputees, men on crutches, walking wounded helping each other along. Some were armed, some carried only a bayonet lashed to a long pole or a few grenades, many had no weapons at all….The carnage was ghastly beyond belief. Some Marines on Okinawa, in their foxholes after a hard day of fighting, and ready for night attacks, heard a dragging noise out in front of them. Eventually they made out a moving form, and shot a Japanese soldier. Closer examination revealed he’d been shot in one leg previously; it was bandaged up. He’d also been wounded in an eye previously; that was bandaged too. One arm was in a sling, where he’d been carrying grenades. He was still on the attack.

  174. Top Ender

    These Australians are presumably going to be investigated and charged – if they’re still alive.

    Australian soldiers in New Guinea in WWII found out the hard way that wounded enemy were still very dangerous. Private Bert Treschman saw Captain Geoff Swan, leading a patrol, come across a Japanese who was wounded – and then he saw the grenade the soldier was holding. Swan told his men to stand back and fired his rifle but the enemy soldier released the grenade at the same moment, badly wounding the Captain.

    The Allied troops learnt quickly. Marine Henry Lopez tells of the sign in Hawaii on the jungle-training course he completed. It read: “IF THEY DON’T STINK, STICK THEM.” Australians speedily adopted an attitude of testing any enemy fallen bodies to see if they were indeed dead: “A man saw an apparently dead Jap move and shot him. Others came to life and were shot.” Private Frank Rolleston said: “…we were instructed not to take prisoners, and were to make sure that every Jap, whether wounded or apparently dead, was REALLY DEAD before we went past them.” Colonel Clement Cummings, the Commanding Officer of 2/9 Battalion, paraded his men and told them: “…there will be no wounded Japs – they will all be DEAD! You make bloody sure that they are dead too.” One just did not take chances. It became, really, quite an everyday matter. As a retired infantryman commented, without triumph: “If we came across one who was wounded we shot him… we helped them die for their Emperor”.

  175. Crossie

    They will put lawyers more and more into the theatre, probably using drones in all sorts of situations. They will burden soldiers down with impossible rules and then court-martial them for doing what is necessary.

    I remember reading that General Tommy Franks had to defer to lawyers during the Iraq war which may be the reason why it is still not over.

  176. Particularly if the lawyer is required to operate in the field, not from a base.

    Each grunt must be allocated a Dept of Defence lawyer, who must never be more than 5 metres from the grunt.
    If for some reason the lawyer is more than 5 metres from the grunt, nothing the grunt does can be a “war crime”.

    Works for me.

  177. Crossie

    Bit hard to ambush the enemy when all Australian units in a war zone have a fleet of remotely operated camera drones hovering above them so lawyers based back in inner city Australian offices can monitor all actions for infringements against moral relativism and the Will of Stalin.

    You know where this is heading – build an army of robots or drones, let a fourteen year old boy run them and tell him it’s a game.

  178. If a lawyer is shot by “his” grunt, it isn’t a war crime, provided the grunt does it from a distance of greater than 5 metres.
    Any soldier who has his lawyer more than 5 metres away, is then with impunity able to shoot the lawyer of any of his comrades.

    Y’know what, there’s a lot to be said for this “lawyers in the field” suggestion.

  179. Armadillo

    Please do not mistake my comment as being pro-Joyce.
    I’m just a whole lot more anti-Paparazzi than I am anti-Barnaby.

    This has been going on ever since he announced he would stand for New England. Tony Windsor, “Lock the Gates”, Greens being bussed up here to harass him….join the dots. Labor sitting in the shadows.

    No one talks of Eddie Obeid anymore. Nor Richard Torbay. Just Barney having a legal (and immoral) shag.

    It’s not coincidence. Started very early. If the same scrutiny were placed on most other politicians, it would be a scandal.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Y’know what, there’s a lot to be said for this “lawyers in the field” suggestion.

    I’m imagining the deals done with the enemy. “Nothing personal – in the next contact, we’ll be shooting to miss, if you get the bloke standing up, carrying the briefcase…”

  181. rickw

    So now it is confirmed beyond all doubt. The ADF is out to destroy Special Forces in general and the SAS in particular.

    It is critical to destroy the seeds from which something decent might be rebuilt.

  182. jupes

    Where the hell is Jim Mollen in all this?

    Silent of course. Molan was well above the rank of Lt Colonel, so he would be on the side of “due process”. Even Andrew Hastie has been cowed into accepting the witch hunt as legitimate rather than calling it the stitch-up it is.

  183. zyconoclast

    Am I the only cat who had never heard of Dorothy Hewett until 2 days ago?

    No, you’re far from alone.

    #metoo

  184. The biggest crime is to call him a comedian.

    yep, couldn’t agree more. and the same could be said for the rest of cadre of so-called ‘comedians’ on the alpbc, who have been getting away with the same old schtick for years at the expense of conservatives, and our tax $$$.

    hard to believe we pay a $1b PA for the tripe.

  185. JC

    He’s always squabbling with someone.

    But the Canadian PM’s post-summit bluster — and threat of retaliatory tariffs on the US — ­appeared to set Trump off.

    “PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, ‘US Tariffs were kind of insulting’ and he ‘will not be pushed around,’ ” Trump tweeted. “Very dishonest & weak.”

  186. Crossie

    It’s not coincidence. Started very early. If the same scrutiny were placed on most other politicians, it would be a scandal.

    Exactly. But our politicians are not very smart if they can’t work out that the media will get them while hiding the Labor peccadillos. Jim Cairns and Junie Morosi was the last time the media were unbiased. John Hewson did not get away with it nor did Sneddon while Bob Hawke got to ditch Hazel for Blanche to little protest from the media. Even Paul Keating got rid of Annita without suffering any repercussions.

    It’s not fair but that’s how it is.

  187. Armadillo

    I had a cigarette out the front of the town hall with Barneys daughter on Miss A’s year 12 graduation night. He was paranoid as all shit. Even back then, almost 3 years ago.

    He half joked I might be from the “Green/Labor” bus they had sent up to find dirt. Even the black suit and the blue tie didn’t persuade him. Guilty conscience perhaps? Maybe.

    Seemed to me like a bloke who was under immense pressure, rather than anything else.

  188. Crossie

    Silent of course. Molan was well above the rank of Lt Colonel, so he would be on the side of “due process”. Even Andrew Hastie has been cowed into accepting the witch hunt as legitimate rather than calling it the stitch-up it is.

    It’s very difficult to fight the media and the prime minister.

  189. zyconoclast

    What is it with American bakeries?
    Not even a vegan, gluten free, black lives matter, owned by a a queer-identified couple can avert being acused of being racist.

    At this Portland Bakery, White Guilt Poisons the Batter

    Last month, however, the business’s overzealous politics cost two young employees their jobs at the Alberta Street location after a local activist released a video complaining that she had been denied service for being black. In the wake of the Starbucks scandal in Philadelphia, in which two black men were arrested after refusing a buy-or-leave request from staff, the bakery owners summarily fired their two female staffers in the hope that doing so would appease the gathering social justice mob. The panic provoked by accusations of racism led the bakery’s management to issue a series of contradictory and clumsy statements. From the shadows, power-hungry community activists readied their arrows.

    RTWT

  190. Gab

    Friends who have been to China tell me that the food is inedible, what we get here is far from authentic Chinese cuisine

    I’ve only been to China 3 times and each time was taken by locals to local restaurants and street food type places. The food was magnificent, healthy and nothing that resembled the sauce-ridden stuff we get here that’s been “customised” to suit the superior Australian palette.

  191. Crossie

    Armadillo
    #2733320, posted on June 10, 2018 at 10:35 pm
    I had a cigarette out the front of the town hall with Barneys daughter on Miss A’s year 12 graduation night. He was paranoid as all shit. Even back then, almost 3 years ago.

    He half joked I might be from the “Green/Labor” bus they had sent up to find dirt. Even the black suit and the blue tie didn’t persuade him. Guilty conscience perhaps? Maybe.

    Seemed to me like a bloke who was under immense pressure, rather than anything else.

    Sigh, and he still went ahead with what he was doing. So much for his judgment.

  192. C.L.

    It’s not fair but that’s how it is …

    It’s very difficult to fight the media and the prime minister.

    Is there anything worth fighting for, Crossie, or should we just give up in general?

  193. Crossie

    Is there anything worth fighting for, Crossie, or should we just give up in general?

    I’ll give Andrew Hastie the benefit of the doubt, he already stuck his neck out over China. I am disappointed with Jim Molan.

  194. Gab

    What a poor sad pathetic creature, JC. I have noting but pity for him.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    How can you put a caption to this?

    Is that Justin Trudeau?

  196. Crossie

    Is he a Melania Trump impersonator?

  197. cohenite

    God she’s good; Sarah gives it to the bastards of the press and sums up the Russia/Clinton bullshit in 90 seconds:
    https://www.facebook.com/outlawmorgan/videos/1468326096595612/?hc_ref=ARRb30ewoUtyiR5kBVrtIcsuznd8AwbaQ4SeI-BLrB539PG3yeVtF54Evb6K_61zCbo

  198. JC

    Is that Justin Trudeau?

    Justine.

    I wonder what Canadians think of Justine donning false brows.

  199. Armadillo

    Sigh, and he still went ahead with what he was doing. So much for his judgment.

    I don’t know what he was thinking, nor the pressure he was under.

    Everyone stuffs up their life at some stage or another. Everyone has regrets. Could have, should have.

    I’m not the one to judge. Best you can do is try to fix your fuck ups. In Barneys circumstances, the terminology is appropriate.

  200. Top Ender posted on June 10, 2018 at 3:13 pm Appreciate Cat Caustic Comments on it before it’s sent off.

    The “quiet” propulsion system is OK in nukes with unlimited power, but drains batteries fast.

    Security. Yanks who will sell combat gizmos to us don’t like or trust Frogs.

    Cost LEASE Virginias even cheaper still and let the USA do the grease and oil changes.

  201. None

    Just listening to Vic Alhadeff carrying on about the hate speech laws he’s been pushing in New South Wales supposedly is the head of this “keep New South Wales safe” a bunch of 31 illiberal organisations. I’ve always spoken up for the Jewish community and against anti-semitism but I will now no longer speak up for them I will no longer speak up for anyone who takes away my freedom.

  202. None

    Just listening to Vic Alhadeff carrying on about the hate speech laws he’s been pushing in New South Wales supposedly is the head of this “keep New South Wales safe” a bunch of 31 illiberal organisations. I’ve always spoken up for the J**ish community and against anti-semitism but I will now no longer speak up for them I will no longer speak up for anyone who takes away my freedom.
    He is being totally disingenuous to say it’s only about violence because he’s pushing for it to go into anti-discrimination laws in which case only certain groups are going to be protected and not getting the criminal code fixed regarding all incitement to violence. So bye bye Vic bye bye all you Jill PC bye bye or your ethnic organisations I now refused to speak up for anyone except for myself.

  203. Rae

    Barnaby Not-a-Polly Joyce. Yawn. We’ve been here before many times over recent months.

    He brought it all on himself. Covered up the affair from at least as early as August 2016. Spouted sanctimonious bullshit about SSM vs the sanctity of marriage while he was having an extra-marital affair. Covered up the affair and the breakdown of his marriage from the voters in his electorate during the by-election. Provided his mistress with well-paid government jobs to keep her out of the limelight. Knocked back FOI requests from the Telegraph for months, then cried foul when they went public with a photo and story about his affair and deception. Went very public himself in a well-paid “tell as little as possible while saying bad things about other people” interview. Now trying to stay in the seat of New England when his own Party can’t stand the smell of him. And complains that a lone paparazzi has been tagging along for photo ops? Seriously?

    It’s time he accepted that he has ended his own political career. The Nats will confirm that for him when they disendorse him and give someone else a chance in New England well before the coming federal election.

  204. Armadillo

    How can you put a caption to this?

    “Visit Melbourne – Tram tracks and Trannies”

  205. C.L.

    Justin needs to see Morrie about some quality brow wigs:

  206. C.L.

    Spouted sanctimonious bullshit about SSM vs [heterosexual] marriage while he was having an extra-marital affair.

    He could have been sleeping with a half dozen women and it wouldn’t make any difference to the axiomatic veracity of his attitude to homosexual “marriage” – which, of course, is not possible.

  207. jupes

    The Allied troops learnt quickly.

    Indeed they did back in the day TE. Of course in those days they were backed by their leaders. Those were the days when the military knew how to fight and win and did everything possible to ensure victory. Back in those more enlightened times, lawyers were left at home and not deployed until victory had been achieved. Then – brace yourself for this novel idea – they were deployed to prosecute the enemy!

    Not any more. In these days of ‘exit strategies’, victory is not even a consideration. The idea is to ‘fight’ by, self-imposed, self-defeating rules while allowing the enemy to disregard those rules. Millions of dollars of resources and a large number of personnel have been employed to ensure no infractions of these rules occurs. From our troops that is, not the enemy.

    A huge amount of then legitimate weapons used by troops in WW2 are now banned. Mines are a good example. Banned for our troops but when used by the Taliban, they are responsible for the majority of Australian battle deaths in Afghanistan.

    Lawyers deploy with all units, advise on operations and even have to approve military plans. However if there is a suspect ‘incident’ on operations then another team of lawyers and investigators deploys from Australia to spend weeks ‘investigating’ any and all alleged infractions. If the suspect incident is deemed serious enough the investigation lasts years e.g. the stupid and pointless ‘cutting off hands” investigation took over four years.

    Of course it is a ‘rule’ that our troops have to fight in uniform. This rule is to protect civilians, because if soldiers fight out of uniform then it is difficult to differentiate civilians from soldiers, thus leading to civilian deaths. Back in the day, if an enemy was caught in civilian clothes he was -quite rightly – treated as a spy. The penalty was death.

    In Afghanistan the fighting in uniform rule is strictly enforced for our troops, however the Taliban never wear uniform. Nevertheless, if a ‘civilian’ dies in a firefight guess who the ADF investigate? Our troops of course. In fact the ADF have never prosecuted or investigated any Taliban for any war crime, yet have spent millions of dollars and wasted years investigating our troops for the smallest infractions that would not even have been considered wrong last century.

    Australia asks these soldiers to do a job with one hand tied behind their backs, while at the same time champing at the bit to prosecute them for any alleged infraction of the stupid rules they have imposed on them. The recent and current ADF leadership have a lot to answer for.

  208. None

    I agree Barnaby had every right to confront that fat grub. He had amazing self control. I would have decked him.

  209. Top Ender

    Nicely put Jupes.

    Your last point relating to uniforms is an excellent one, especially.

  210. None

    How can you put a caption to this?

    No wonder heis daughter’s are f****** screwed up and busy screwinghalf of America. Imagine having a father who rummages through your underwear drawer and wears your bra and panties. *shudder*

  211. None

    How can you put a caption to this?

    No wonder his daughters are f****** screwed up and busy screwinghalf of America. Imagine having a father who rummages through your underwear drawer and wears your bra and panties. *shudder*

  212. C.L.

    I suspect there is something at a meta-political level going on in relation to the SAS.
    There are two parts to that.
    First, it looks to me like an orchestrated act of appeasement/contrition to impress Muslims.
    ‘We killed lots of your bros, maybe we went too far; sorry. Here’s some commandos in reparation.’
    Irvine being resurrected certainly points to that. He made PR crawling to Islam a signature policy.

    Second: the SAS is a masculine redoubt in what is now an oestrogen-drenched pansy army.
    There is deep-seated resentment of commandos in the ADF because they are actual soldiers.
    The lesbian advisers now running things at the ADF want these warriors ritually humiliated.
    Also: if the SAS is determinedly wrecked – as the Army has been – deployments to wars will become impossible. This is the ultimate goal of leftists.

  213. Armadillo

    The article mentioned above https://bit.ly/2HzXwSX

    Any Cat that didn’t get banned from “Table Talk” within three posts were being much too subtle. I understand the art of “trolling”, but that arsehole and his leftist followers would make your skin crawl.

    H/t Phillipa Martyr

  214. None

    Second: the SAS is a masculine redoubt in what is now an oestrogen-drenched pansy army.
    There is deep-seated resentment of commandos in the ADF because they are actual soldiers.
    The lesbian advisers now running things at the ADF want these warriors ritually humiliated.
    Also: if the SAS is determinedly wrecked – as the Army has been – deployments to wars will become impossible. This is the ultimate goal of leftists.

    That.
    That is now on turbo charged after the fat one became Defence Minister. If you want to know just how precious these feminazis are just call the Defence Minister fat. And then they want to tell us that can serve on the front line.

  215. Oh come on

    Joyce may be a hypocrite (he is as we all are), but he is not a hypocrite for opposing SSM while cheating on his wife.

    He would be a hypocrite if he were banging on about the sanctity of marriage while cheating on his wife. Wrt the SSM debate, I don’t recall him taking this position (and why would he? It would be irrelevant). A married man can be a complete dog to his wife and still oppose SSM – that’s a consistent position. Hell, he could be screwing other guys and it’d still be a consistent position as long as he isn’t proposing to marry one of them in spite of his objection to SSM.

  216. Oh come on

    The SAS has a very powerful card to play – it is the only strategic military asset we control that our allies genuinely value and can make use of. There could be a whole lot of hubbub about the ‘toxic SAS’ and whatnot that might publicly bubble on for a while… until a phonecall by someone in their deep state is made to someone in our deep state and the move against the SAS is quickly and quietly stifled.

  217. Marcus Classis

    it is the only strategic military asset we control that our allies genuinely value and can make use of.

    Sorry, you have no idea concerning what you are talking about.

  218. Oh come on

    Sorry, you have no idea concerning what you are talking about.

    As always, MK50, citation needed.

  219. Oh come on

    (don’t ever think you’re going to live your epic plagiarism down. Have a nice day!)

  220. zyconoclast

    Only for the purpose of a public holiday

  221. Oh come on

    Hrm. I hear that loads of young chicks just love checking out old farts pumping iron. Gets ’em all hit and bothered, if you know what I mean. I know this because the old farts told me.

  222. Tel

    Y’know what, there’s a lot to be said for this “lawyers in the field” suggestion.

    It’s getting very difficult to find a profession where you don’t have to become a lawyer first before specializing in actually doing a proper job afterwards.

    The real problem we are facing as a society is that we ran out of real problems. It’s a tough one. Now you understand why we are turning to socialism and big government for an answer to this… socialism creates problems where none exist. Gives us something to get on with.

  223. Oh come on

    hit upon, maybe. I did mean hot, though

  224. JC

    Not to mention the Adonis face planting and the other massive face plant suggesting I was expertly posting comments elsewhere about American anglicism. What a dickhead.

  225. Oh come on

    Well that’s weird. But that’s never stopped old MK50 before.

  226. Fisky

    It may well be time to relitigate the Mk50 plagiarism scandal!

  227. Bruce in WA

    In memory of Danny Kirwan, formerly of Fleetwood Mac. In my opinion, this is the ultimate Sunday night piece of music; the end of the day, a few drinks, feeling righteously tired and readying for tomorrow. Reminds me of my youth, when I would spend all day every Sunday helping Dad pound and smash limestone rocks out of our house block — mattock and 16lb sledge. By dinner, now showered and changed and feeling pleasantly exhausted, this said it all for me.

  228. JC

    It may well be time to relitigate the Mk50 plagiarism scandal!

    Ronery and Serena swore black and blue it wasn’t true … that he didn’t plagiarize. Just sad.

  229. Oh come on

    I think so, too, now that he’s here. Because MK50/Marcus Classis never conceded wrongdoing despite the embarrassingly numerous similarities between the American Thinker article and what MK50/Marcus Classis posted here, as his own work, a few days after the AT article went public. It would seem to be an open-and-shut case of plagiarism. Perhaps MK50/Marcus Classis would like to respond.

  230. Oh come on

    Ronery and Serena swore black and blue it wasn’t true … that he didn’t plagiarize.

    Geez you’re wheeling out the brains trust there. Emphasis on ‘wheeling out’.

  231. Hmm, JC & OCO lose their shit again, at one simple comment.
    Wonder why that would be?

  232. Trump vs. Trudeau. Place your bets.

    Would this be the same Trudeau who was going to “tell Trump this” & “tell Trump that” & “stand up to Trump” & so on?

    His pre-meeting talk is not consistent with his body language.

  233. Oh come on

    Wonder why that would be?

    Ummm maybe because we both think you’re a cockhead?

  234. Ummm maybe because we both think you’re a cockhead?

    That would be a textbook case of the pot calling the electric jug black, wouldn’t it?

  235. Oh come on

    So you admit you are a cockhead? Good. I agree with you.

  236. Bruce in WA

    What a voice. Simple, heartfelt lyrics. Sadly, she has Parkinsons. Listen to the voice break right at the end. Brilliant.

  237. Bruce in WA

    The song I should play to my wife every week … but I never have.

  238. JC

    I know it’s redundant, but don’t be silly. No one is “losing their shit again”, you thundering thicko.
    Why did you deny his plagiarism, Drillsie? More to the point how could you deny it? Even more, just how low can you go?

    Run it through here – a plagiarism checker.

    What’s interesting is that if you run all his threads, I recall that all of them were described as highly likely to have been lifted.

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