Which side are you on?

Trump blasts Canada’s Trudeau for ‘false statements’…
Rough talks sour G7 mood; Confrontations…
Trump refuses to back declaration calling for tariff reductions…
Holds rare solo news conference, defends bashing press…

Comes with this:


TRUMP APPROVAL TOPS OBAMA AND REAGAN AT SAME TIME IN PRESIDENCY…

I actually cannot understand why anyone with sense would have preferred Hillary to PDT but by now, if you are not completely persuaded that Trump is our last chance for the West to hold itself together, then your political judgement is good for nothing. Like this in particular:

“The EU understands that the only way with Trump is strength,” said one European official. “If you give in now, he will come back tomorrow for more.”

Hope things continue with his meeting with Kim (the other Kim) on Tuesday.

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172 Responses to Which side are you on?

  1. Percy Popinjay

    Make me a Sammich, Frau!

  2. Fisky

    Which side are you on?

    The vast majority of “libertarians” are on Merkel’s side!

  3. pbw

    From the Reuters story.

    Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    You d’ man!

  4. Egor

    We haven’t seen a smart, impenetrably confident, clear thinking, policy driving, patriot operator like Trump. Ever.
    Best to get over his NY city cab driver personality.
    Remember the cloudy captured guilty drivel from US Presidents past.
    The EU, Canada, China just can’t believe the era of anything other than reciprocal trade is over.
    Wakey, wakey.
    Trump in a landslide 2020.

  5. Paul

    The ‘make Iranian mullahs great’ crowd of the Europeans, have realised that their piggy snouts in the trough of US govt for sale are being sliced off.
    It’s ending under Trump, and they are squealing.
    Same for the rhinos who hate Trump for ending their troughs of cash.

  6. Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    He assumed it meant the Merkel lass would bring his breakfast in bed.

  7. John Constantine

    Their merkel hopes gender equality means she gets to watch Shark Week with Stormy as well.

  8. Entropy

    Hope things continue with his meeting with Kim (the other Kim) on Tuesday.

    Unlikely. The NKs probably think Trump will go for any deal at all. The G7 theatre is about showing Kim might be mistaken.

  9. Infidel Tiger

    Great to see the geopolitical realignment captured on film.

    The Western European filth are yesterday’s trash.

  10. rickw

    Look at Abe!

    Wow, you really are dumb!

  11. Infidel Tiger

    #2733073, posted on June 10, 2018 at 6:13 pm
    Look at Abe!

    Yep. He is 100% on Trump’s side.

    The geopolitical landscape has completely changed.

    Well done Don.

  12. stackja

    USA expended great effort in the past. For what purpose?

  13. Noodles Romanoff

    Jeez I love Trump. The next 6.5 years of world political realignment are going to be glorious. The countries that catch on the fastest will be the biggest benefactors. Who do we have to push us to the front?

  14. candy

    I hope the NK/Trump meeting goes well and they basically form an agreement.

    To see them shake hands will be totally awesome.

  15. miltonf

    The Western European filth are yesterday’s trash.

    Merkel, Macaroon, May, Juncker et al are truly loathsome.

  16. miltonf

    oh yeah and wannabe Trumble is too.

  17. MPH

    Trump is our last chance for the West to hold itself together

    This (selective) quote summarises Trump perfectly. And I am grateful for him every day.

  18. Damienski

    Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    The Donald should be impeached for turning up at all.

  19. Dr Fred Lenin

    See the Chinese flew Kim the NORK to Singapore doing Trumps bidding, making sure the lad got his last minute instructions to bow to Trump and save the Chinese trade with the US ,unelected communist governments fear masses of angry unemployed starving citizens ,bad for the comrades health .

  20. NB

    Dr Fred Lenin says:
    ‘making sure the lad got his last minute instructions to bow to Trump and save the Chinese trade ‘
    Maybe. But perhaps more like ‘Hey Mr Trump, you may want him to come over to your side, but whatever the deal, he is still very much ours.’

  21. Cactus

    I have been a bit of grid the past 2 days and return to see such hilarity. Trump arrived late to the G7 meeting on gender equality! Deliberately walking in after it started and all the cameras capturing that lack of respect! Then skips the session on climate change! I cant stop laughing. I just keep thinking of his speech when he tells us we will get sick of the winning. Im not at that point yet. What a change from Obama.

  22. Cactus

    Oh. And Fatboy Kim is preparing for his meeting. Trump just told many of his allies to get with the program or get stuffed. Whats Kim gonna be thinking? Interesting times.

  23. Tel

    Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    Hey, there was nothing stopping all the women from also turning up late, they were given the same opportunities that Trump got.

  24. OneWorldGovernment

    Saw a photo of the “G7” leaders.

    But there were 9!.

    Farquing eu shit bookended!

    Hopefully Trump blows the farque out of Brussels.

  25. Hey, there was nothing stopping all the women from also turning up late, they were given the same opportunities that Trump got.

    Internet has been won for the day!

  26. Boris

    Such a unanimous salut for the clown in chief!

  27. OneWorldGovernment

    Boris
    #2733422, posted on June 11, 2018 at 2:43 am

    Such a unanimous salut for the clown in chief!

    Sure is.

    They are all laughing at the communist merkle.

  28. OneWorldGovernment

    Boris,

    How do the 2 EU communists get themselves in a G7 photo?

  29. Boris

    Hope things continue with his meeting with Kim (the other Kim) on Tuesday.

    Yeh looks like Kim might be the only potential ally left for Trump.

    Trump thinks that bullying tactic is the only way to negotiate. he will likely achieve nothing with this approach but his base will still idolize his genius, and that is what matters for Trump.

  30. Boris

    by now, if you are not completely persuaded that Trump is our last chance for the West to hold itself together, then your political judgement is good for nothing.

    I think Kates’ view counts for nothing. In my view Trump’s behavior itself is in itself a threat to the western alliance and western values. Including his romance with anti-western leaders like Putin (incidentally the closest ally of the ayatollahs trump hates so much).

  31. Mark A

    Boris
    #2733436, posted on June 11, 2018 at 3:03 am

    Now you’ve given up all semblance of being reasonable. (not that there was much of it to begin with)

    You are just being petulant.

  32. Tom

    Great to see the geopolitical realignment captured on film.
    The Western European filth are yesterday’s trash.

    When they coined the phrase “A picture’s worth 1000 words”, they had images like that in mind.

    It will be reproduced in books about politics and trade hundreds of years from now. And there’s a 90% chance the press photographer who chanced upon it is a dime-a-dozen Trump hater whose byline will be forgotten.

  33. struth

    . In my view Trump’s behavior itself is in itself a threat to the western alliance and western values.

    You idiot.
    Those countries don’t hold western values anymore.

  34. NuThink

    @Tel –

    Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    Hey, there was nothing stopping all the women from also turning up late, they were given the same opportunities that Trump got.

    https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56259

    The women were obviously NOT supporting the female Premier of Ontario who was made to sit alone.

    Looking at the picture above, it looks like Merkel is woman splaining something to the Donald.

  35. anonandon

    That has got to be photo-shopped. It is too perfect.

  36. In my view the EU’s behavior itself is in itself a threat to the western alliance and western values. Including their romance with anti-western cultures (incidentally the closest allies of the ayatollahs trump hates so much).

    Fixed!

  37. egg_

    Trump was late to a breakfast session on gender equality.

    The maid was late with his crumpet?

  38. rickw

    That has got to be photo-shopped. It is too perfect.

    It certainly has an artistic quality to it, I want to get it framed for my office!

  39. Tom

    For the record, the photo was taken by Jesco Denzel, an official photographer commissioned by the Cherman government to photograph Merkel’s role in the summit. Denzel evidently thought having Merkel looking down on Trump while he’s seated, arms crossed, makes it look like she’s in charge.
    History will record Trump was the only free trader in the room.

  40. struth

    If that photo is the best set up they could get, they failed.
    Trump is laughing at their socialist tantrums.

  41. calli

    I love Abe’s hostile body language. For a Japanese, it’s quite overt, and he’s looking straight at the object of disgust and disagreement. He’s also mirroring Trump.

    The scold is utterly unaware. Power is slipping away one finger wag at a time.

    A great photo.

  42. Empire 5:5

    We still don’t know what was really going on with that photo.

    Of all the theories I’ve seen, I’ve narrowed it down to two likely possibilities.

    1. 45 was conducting a book signing for Art of the Deal and MerkelHitler is pissed she was told to go to the back of the queue; or

    2. 45 was demonstrating to the crew how Justin takes a leak and MerkelHitler was insisting that all men must sit to piss.

    Which was it Cats?

    Thoughts?

  43. MichelLasouris

    Justin Trudeau. Living testament to why political dynasties are a very bad idea. A weak show-pony. The Canadians deserve better.
    AND he wears brown shoes with a light blue suit. Has this loser NO sense of style? Sad.
    PDT is absolutely right to criticise this apology of a leader.

  44. Empire 5:5

    It’s telling that May was largely invisible throughout the whole charade.

  45. Crossie

    Infidel Tiger
    #2733140, posted on June 10, 2018 at 7:04 pm
    Great to see the geopolitical realignment captured on film.

    The Western European filth are yesterday’s trash.

    Iconic photo for an iconic moment.

  46. Empire 5:5

    I think Kates’ view counts for nothing. In my view Trump’s behavior itself is in itself a threat to the western alliance and western values. Including his romance with anti-western leaders like Putin (incidentally the closest ally of the ayatollahs trump hates so much).

    You don’t think Boris, you spruik.

    The game is up. The options for the corruptocrats are surrender, suicide or run.

  47. Mark M

    This is the real moment when the oceans of Obama’s progressive stupidity was stopped.

  48. struth

    Surely the caption should be

    OK boys, you’ve all been through me and I haven’t felt a thing.
    Whadda you got, big boy?

  49. Empire 5:5

    Trump thinks that bullying tactic is the only way to negotiate. he will likely achieve nothing with this approach but his base will still idolize his genius, and that is what matters for Trump.

    Fake news.

    DJT has a verifiable record of using game theory to negotiate win-win outcomes. Be clear that the win for Europe means a win for the French and German people, not a win for the Macaroni/MerkelHitler handlers.

    The apoplexy on display is real. Manny and Ange are going to cop a beating when they get home for failing to perform tricks.

  50. Empire 5:5

    AND he wears brown shoes with a light blue suit. Has this loser NO sense of style? Sad.

    Sartorial crime? Yes, but the dude uses prosthetic eyebrows. Never brown in town is the least of his problems.

  51. Egor

    “Every parasite needs a host. As soon as the host refuses to remain co-dependent to its own demise, the abusers begin to panic.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/10/eu-president-donald-tusk-worries-about-new-world-order-being-dismantled-the-peasants-are-revolting/

    The left are still in a state of shock. They thought they were now permanently default America.

  52. struth

    Hey

    Europe

    Psst……………………….

    The gig-ski is up-ski.

  53. Boris
    #2733436, posted on June 11, 2018 at 3:03 am

    Hope things continue with his meeting with Kim (the other Kim) on Tuesday.

    Yeh looks like Kim might be the only potential ally left for Trump.

    Trump thinks that bullying tactic is the only way to negotiate. he will likely achieve nothing with this approach but his base will still idolize his genius, and that is what matters for Trump.

    How can you say Kim will potentially be the only ally left for Trump? LOOK AT THE PICTURE…..
    FVCKING LOOK AT ABE you partizan hack.
    Evidence right before your eyes.

    As far as bullying goes, have you not been following this G7 story at all? It has been the Europeans trying to bully Trump from the get go.
    Cognitive dissonance at its best.

  54. anonandon

    I remember commenting on a blog after the US election that our American friends may have just saved western civilisation. It was meant as hyperbole then but I actually think I may have been spot on #humble brag.

  55. Up The Workers!

    Trump and Abe are the only two Leaders in that photo with similar views on the perils of climbing into bed with barbaric 6th century Ayatollahs and Mullahs.

    The others are F.U.B.A.R.

  56. The BigBlueCat

    Looks very much like stand-over tactics by Merkel and Macron … not very flattering … it doesn’t look like they are even trying to be assertive, merely bullying. Merkel has form on that front.

  57. H B Bear

    It’s telling that May was largely invisible throughout the whole charade.

    She isn’t even running the UK.

  58. Up The Workers!

    Good to see Canada’s ‘Prime-Minister-with-Training-Wheels’, Justin Truedope stamp his little foot and stage a three megaton hissy-fit for his local retinue of Leftard presstitutes and state that Canada would not be pushed around by President Trump.

    On behalf of all Canadians, he refused to be “brow-beaten”.

    It was at that time that one of his prosthetic eyebrows (the left one, of course) decided to part company with him, as has been captured in photos all over the web.

    The bloke actually wears prosthetic eyebrows!!!

    After that, it wouldn’t surprise me to find that frumpy old hausfrau, Mutti Merkel wears a set of prosthetic rubber testicles.

    Leftards! You couldn’t script a better comedy.

  59. calli

    Macron is engaging Bolton. The Scold is telling Trump to “wipe that look off your face”.

    Everyone (bar Abe) is either looking away or down.

    Game, set and match.

  60. struth

    Who is the guy chockers up Merkel?

    What goes on at G7 stays at G7

  61. Up The Workers!

    Did the French President bring his Granny, or is Mutti Merkel there to hold his hand and act as his chaperone?

    Might need to keep a close eye on Truedope’s itinerant Left prosthetic eyebrow, lest it goes further rogue and decides to start breeding with Theresa May, or worse – Mutti Merkel.

    World affairs – Euro/Leftard style.

    Caligula had nothing on this lot!

  62. Boris

    Quite clearly Trump is on the side of brutal dictators Putin and Kim. Those are people he is most comfortable with,

    Sad.

  63. Quite clearly Trump is on the side of brutal dictators Putin and Kim. Those are people he is most comfortable with,

    If this and the other crap you’ve posted is truly what you think, and not just trolling, there’s a gap between the ears that needs filling or emptying, as the case may be.

  64. Tel

    Good to see Canada’s ‘Prime-Minister-with-Training-Wheels’, Justin Truedope stamp his little foot and stage a three megaton hissy-fit for his local retinue of Leftard presstitutes and state that Canada would not be pushed around by President Trump.

    At least our Turnbull showed the good grace of engaging Trump politely and then wheedling a little concession out of him on refugees. You could imagine the consequences if Turnbull had stood on the deck of that aircraft carrier and tried to pull a tough guy act. Sheesh, Turnbull may be a white anter and a guy you would be reluctant to trust with the family silver, but at least he understands basic concepts like balance of power and who has it at any one time.

  65. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Brilliant body language in that pic. She’s saying jump and he’s saying no.
    Old blue cow meets immovable old bull.

  66. Roger

    She’s saying jump and he’s saying no.
    Old blue cow meets immovable old bull.

    Trump appears to be looking at Theresa May, who is obscured in the pic.

  67. Boris

    At least our Turnbull showed the good grace of engaging Trump politely and then wheedling a little concession out of him on refugees. Y

    Turnbull was in a very weak position. EU is not.

    Broader still, no one yet explained how Trumps tariffs are going to save western civilization.

  68. struth

    EU is in a very weak position.
    If you actually believe in the west and free markets and competition, you could come to no other conclusion.
    They’re just about rooted.
    Like us.
    A coffin with nails being hammered in by Trump.

  69. struth

    The USA holds all the cards and if you don’t think so, it’s probably because it’s been a long long time, many years of left wing corruption of the west which has allowed you to forget what true western freedom , competition can do.

  70. Tel

    Merkel: You vill doooo vat you ver told, oder ve smackem whackem biffem baffem und der Bond Default! Remember how ve snookered da Greekenweenie!

    Trump: Winning with the world reserve covfefe. Obama already tried his best to bankrupt us, and he couldn’t do it, you so you won’t either.

    Macron: You better not upset her or she will paddle you like a schoolteacher, and that can smart (trust me I know). Hmmm, come to think of it, just make her a little bit angry, we can work this out.

    Trump: I’ve always loved the French culture and their amazing lifestyle, but please sign this NDA.

    Abe: I get more sensible conversations talking to my ancestors at the war memorial than this lot. How about we hurry up and get this over with?

    Bolton: Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy! Do I get to nuke someone now? I’ll send in the Marines. Drone strikes, yeah lots of drone strikes, that’s the ticket. Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy!

    May: It wasn’t British intelligence that set up the Skripals, you have got to believe me. That was not some scam, that was a genuine Russian operation. Putin did it, don’t you see? I’m going to see Brexit through, I really am, won’t derail anything. I’m extremely trustworthy. Don’t mention Tommy Robinson, don’t mention acid attacks, or knife attacks, or hammer attacks, no one bring up any of these difficult topics. We are here to talk about trade, and when Great Britain talks about trade, we say whatever Brussels tells us to say. So there. I’m a strong woman.

    Junker: If the American people are too stupid to vote for the correct President, we will just send them back again and again, until they get it right.

    Bolton: Can I? Can I? Now can I? Oh boy! Oh boy! When can I?

  71. Dr Fred Lenin

    Struth. When we get them in the coffin,bolt the lid down and loctite them ,nails are easy to remove .

  72. Americans hate freedom with a passion and beg for their chains.

    If our overlords decreed that everyone must buy a new snowblower this year, Americans would agree that the law makes sense and must be obeyed.

    When guns are banned, Americans will scream with delight.

    If Americans are forced to get microchip implants, Americans would fight to be first in line.

    When Americans get sent to the concentration camps, they will insist that they live in a free country as they get pushed into the ovens.

  73. Empire 5:5

    She isn’t even running the UK.

    Correct.

    Orderly surrender in progress.

  74. Empire 5:5

    Broader still, no one yet explained how Trumps tariffs are going to save western civilization.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/10/pollak-trump-calls-g-7s-free-trade-bluff/

    Lying by omission is so 2016.

    You couldn’t negotiate a root in a brothel with a fist full of fivers.

  75. Faceache

    I didn’t know the Germans could be so aggressive and bullying. Imagine the outcry if Merkel and Trumps positions and body language was reversed.

  76. Empire 5:5

    Doomlord – this grub has directly linked your site to chan porn.

    Free Speech Forum
    #2733684, posted on June 11, 2018 at 11:51 am

  77. Tom

    Quite clearly Trump is on the side of brutal dictators Putin and Kim.

    Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

    Boris isn’t coping. The God Emperor is making him cry.

    You’re so endearing, Boris. Dumb as a box of hammers. Poor little fellah.

  78. Jannie

    Frau Merkel is doing the standover tactic, but look closely and see she is unsure and afraid, and wouldn’t try it without a mob of supporters behind her. Trump has his arms folded in a classic defensive posture, but there is a glint of a smile on his face and is not afraid at all. “I hope you try it” he seems to be thinking. He knows he could beat the shit out of any one them individually, or take them on as gang and still win.

    I hope the Secret Service are on top of their game, because there is only one way they can win against Trump.

  79. Jannie

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  80. Iampeter

    I actually cannot understand why anyone with sense would have preferred Hillary to PDT but by now

    Because a Hillary admin would not be confused for “right wing” as has happened with Trump who is basically running a third Obama term, but further left on issues like trade and immigration.
    Also because the politically illiterate shit-show that is conservatism can be OK in opposition because they do block quite a bit of what progressive try to get done.
    I think the reason for the girlish shreeking and mindless support so many have for Trump among conservatives is that in the absence of any political understanding in comes a strongman that will just “get things done”.
    Incidently that’s why Trump likes Putin and Kim so much. They “get things done” too.

  81. struth

    Iampeter, you sure have a lot of tickets on yourself for a sad fuck.
    Your schtick is too stupid to keep addressing.
    You are showing quite a mental disorder.

    You’ve not understood the Politics for Dummies book you were reading and now, confused, lonely and sad, you lash out at a world you don’t understand.
    Ah, the poor geniuses of the world.
    Never understood by the great unwashed.
    ‘Tis a cross you must bear, alas.
    Until they take you away for that rest, dribbling down your straight jacket as you go.

  82. The NYT stuck this photo on their front page in the belief that it makes Trump look bad.

    Truly clueless.

  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Iampeter, it seems Britain’s Boris Johnson likes getting things done too. About Brexit in particular. Only he can’t. He was recently overheard saying to Trump that he admired how Trump was able ‘to get things done’. lol

  84. History will record Trump was the only free trader in the room.

    It is hilarious watching you lot trying to reconcile Trump’s blatant protectionism with your free market views. This is what you are reduced to: straight up lying to cover your hypocrisy.

    As for that photo, anyone trying to construct a narrative out of one still shot is kidding themselves. Things are much more complex than the (possibly misleading) body language from one picture.

  85. BorisG

    He was recently overheard saying to Trump that he admired how Trump was able ‘to get things done’.

    If only Johnson provided any evidence in support of his view…

    Maybe Kim would do an even better Brexit job. By his nuclear threats he has scored a meeting with a leader of the free world, while providing absolutely nothing in return.

  86. Tel

    Incidently that’s why Trump likes Putin and Kim so much.

    Have you tried reading something other than the New York Times? Now and then you know, just a bit of a sample of something from outside the bubble.

  87. BorisG

    Have you tried reading something other than the New York Times?

    so the NYT reports that Trump suggested bringing back Russia into G7 and that he is meeting Kim without any preconditions are lies?

    I think the facts are for everyone to see.

  88. Tel

    BorisG, when did you start hating free trade? I guess it must have happened about the same moment that Trump made a few free trade offers.

  89. Empire 5:5

    It is hilarious watching you lot trying to reconcile Trump’s blatant protectionism with your free market views. This is what you are reduced to: straight up lying to cover your hypocrisy.

    Possibly the most desperate case of leftist projection ever seen on this blog.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/10/pollak-trump-calls-g-7s-free-trade-bluff/

    This week will be tough for you. You might consider a strategic retreat before it’s too late.

  90. max

    Trump vs. Merkel & Co.
    by Justin Raimondo Posted on June 11, 2018
    All the Very Serious People are tweeting and retweeting this “iconic” photo of Trump surrounded by the Euro-weenies, with Angela Merkel seeming to lecture the President while the rest of our faithless “allies” look on. It’s “America Alone” –   the visual representation of the internationalist worldview: Trump’s policy of “America First” is “isolating” us, and, according to clueless leftists like Michael Moore, Merkel is now the “leader” of the “free world.”
    This last is good news indeed, for if Merkel is the new leader of the “free world” then the stationing of 35,000 US troops in Germany – at a cost of billions annually – is no longer required and we can bring them home. This also means Germany, rather than the US, will be sending troops all over the world to fight “terrorism” – a move that is sure to cause consternation in certain regions with a history of German intervention, but hey, somebody has to do it!
    The political class is screaming bloody murder over Trump’s performance at the G-7 meeting in Canada, where he reportedly spent most of the time detailing how much the US was paying for the defense of our vaunted “allies,” not to mention the high tariffs imposed on American goods. He then proposed a “free trade zone” in which member countries would drop all tariffs, subsidies, and other barriers to trade: the “allies” didn’t like that much, either. Nor did the alleged advocates of free trade here in the US give him any credit for ostensibly coming around to their point of view. Which reminds me of something Murray Rothbard said about this issue: “If authentic free trade ever looms on the policy horizon, there’ll be one sure way to tell. The government/media/big-business complex will oppose it tooth and nail.”
    Of course the Euro-weenies don’t want real free trade: after all, they practically invented protectionism. What they want is a free ride, at Uncle Sam’s expense, and the reason they hate Trump is because they know the freebies are over. However, what really got the Usual Suspects frothing at the mouth was Trump’s insistence that Russia be readmitted to the G-8:
    Part of this is due to the effects of advanced TDS – Trump Derangement Syndrome – but the reality is that these people are not real Americans: they despise the idea of national sovereignty, which they consider an atavistic remnant of prehistoric times, and, if they live and work in Washington, D.C., chances are good that they directly or indirectly make their living by serving some foreign lobby or interest group. They’re a fifth column inside the US, working against the interests of ordinary Americans and on behalf of some abstract idea of the “world order” – which is usually a synonym for the interests of some gigantic multinational corporate entity.
    Speaking of gigantic multinational corporate entities, trillionaire George Soros is very cranky these days: the Trump era just doesn’t agree with him! “Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong,” he whines. That’s good news for opponents of our globalist foreign policy – and bad news for the subsidized Washington policy wonks, the goody-two-shoes internationalists, and the wild-eyed warmongers who make up the foreign policy Establishment (a.k.a. the “Blob”).
    https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/06/10/america-a-prisoner-of-our-allies/

  91. BorisG

    Tel, I guess you see Putin and Kim as beacons of free trade.

    Trump makes all sorts of contradictory statements but his actions on tariffs speak for themselves.

    Other leaders don’t trust a word of trump and for good reason.

  92. Boambee John

    m0nty, the running poo blogger, good to ser you.

    How is Wussia, Wussia, Wussia going? Will McCabe rolling over be the end for Trump? When will he be impeached?

  93. Possibly the most desperate case of leftist projection ever seen on this blog.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/10/pollak-trump-calls-g-7s-free-trade-bluff/

    Yeah right Empire. Even Breitbart can’t pretend that Trump actually means that quip about free trade. He is a protectionist through and through.

  94. Tel

    Tel, I guess you see Putin and Kim as beacons of free trade.

    You are making that guess based on what statement I made? It was your argument that Trump is wrong to allow Russia into the G7 (less than 10 minutes ago). You brought that up.

  95. Dr Fred Lenin

    They don’t want Russia in their g7 because the Russians thwarted the Eurocommunists takeover of all of the Ukraine commissar Junkers wont have them disrupting his plans . All we need now is a Trump /Putin conference on trade that would upset the Euro comrades ,a treaty with Kim the Norks would be the icing on a delicious cake.

  96. Empire 5:5

    Yeah right Empire. Even Breitbart can’t pretend that Trump actually means that quip about free trade. He is a protectionist through and through.

    It’s finished fella. The cultural marxism project failed.

    Get in quick while the mop up is in play and you can claim you were hoodwinked, that you had genuine concern for the marginalised and oppressed. Most folks will believe you.

  97. Tel

    … the Russians thwarted the Eurocommunists takeover of all of the Ukraine …

    They got most of it, you would think that’s sufficient.

    The people of Crimea clearly voted in favour of joining the Russian Federation, and if another vote was held next week with any selection of international observers you care to name, then the result would be the same, those people just do not want to be ruled by Kiev.

    As for Sevastopol, it’s been Russian for almost 300 years, since Catherine the Great. Anyone with even cursory knowledge of history already knows that. They are not going to hand it over to Brussels. I mean, seriously, would you voluntarily hand over Tasmania to the EU? Hmmm, maybe a bad example, would you hand over Melbourne? Ahhh, also a bad example, perhaps Adelaide? OK, ok, you know what I’m getting at, even if perhaps I’m not articulating this in the best possible way.

  98. Here are a series of tweets from POTUS Trump outlining what he wants re trade.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/10/president-trump-trade-tariffs-will-continue-until-trade-reciprocity-improves/#more-150394

    Leftard enablers like Iampeter and Boris can spin and lie as much as they like, but Trump has been saying the same things for over 30 years.
    Now he is president, he is taking action. The EU is a stronghold of trade barriers and tariffs.

    Merkel and Macron are now in a bind. Getting into a trade war with the US will cost their handlers (Big Auto, Big Pharma etc) billions. However losing the American welfare that they need so badly for their New World Order dreams, means they lose the European populace who have been made compliant with the extra cash from the US and they can no longer invite millions of third world trash into Europe.

    Their only hope is to white ant Trump with the aid of Washington globalists like McCain Ryan and McConnell. They’ve started already.
    If Trump can keep the white ants at bay, the European global experiment is dead.

    p.s. The reason Brit PM May was so silent on this trip is because she needed to see how it panned out. She can’t afford to be isolated by Trump in case Brexit goes ahead (no guarantee of that).
    In a trade war, the EU economy would tank very very quickly, guaranteeing Brexit. In that scenario, GB needs the USA. May was hedging.
    If Trump had his Thatcher in GB like Reagan had, the EU communists would crumble just as quickly as the Soviet communists did. Shame on the gutless Poms.

  99. the Russians thwarted the Eurocommunists takeover of all of the Ukraine

    Right, so the Communist Party of Russia with its sham elections is the world’s premier defender of Western democracy, plus invading and occupying a foreign country is a defence of national sovereignty.

    Uh huh.

  100. Egor

    In the wonderfully revealing photo, Abe has the same body language directed at comrade Merkel as Trump, he’s looking at the East German as if she owes him money. Tip: a more involved US / Japan bilateral “agreement” is in the wind.

  101. Iampeter

    So tariffs are now “free trade”.
    Russia is the good guy and Brussels is the villain.
    And a leftist administration running things pretty much as you would expect from a third Obama term but further left on immigration and trade somehow means “the cultural marxism project failed.”

    This Steve K, Cat thread is shaping up to be the best one yet!

  102. JC

    So tariffs are now “free trade”.

    Fair enough, but lets hope they all come to their senses and go for an Atlantic free trade alliance.

    Russia is the good guy and Brussels is the villain.

    Putin is a dick, but by saying that it doesn’t mean the EU or its supporters are any good either.

    And a leftist administration running things pretty much as you would expect from a third Obama term but further left on immigration and trade somehow means “the cultural marxism project failed.”

    Don’t be silly. Most of what the Kenyan put together has been dismantled and with the Affordable Health Care Act likely to be totally dismembered in court there will be little left.

    Trump is irrational on trade, but so far there hasn’t been much damage. Be a little more considered.

  103. Iampeter

    Also bonus points for the phrase “cultural marxists”! Its not a political conversation at the Cat without made-up, politic-y sounding words.

    What about “globalists” you guys? Grrrr globalists, grrrrr! Am I rite?

    Talkin politics at the cat sure is fun.

  104. JC

    Iampeter

    Do you support Trump’s tax cut or not?

  105. Tom

    Trump is irrational on trade.

    Wrong. Trump’s strategy is extremely rational and calculated, using protectionist devices like tariffs to tear down protectionism: “Listen, you idiots, if you stop using tariffs to punish American exports, we will stop using them against you.”

    This is simple-deal making nationalism that has been absent from American foreign policy for half a century.

    It’s not difficult to understand, just rare because it takes courage to implement. American trade policy has sold out American producers virtually since WW2.

    Trump’s success is shocking only because the American political ruling class have been so gutless.

  106. Trump’s strategy is extremely rational and calculated, using protectionist devices like tariffs to tear down protectionism: “Listen, you idiots, if you stop using tariffs to punish American exports, we will stop using them against you.”

    Tariffs create free trade! Guns to stop violence! Nukes for peace!

    Very doubleplus good of you, Tom.

  107. JC

    Tom

    Don’t be silly. Low American tariffs has been a boon to the American consumer just as lowering import quotas, tariffs and removing exchange controls unilaterally (in the 80s) was a boon to the Australian consumer. Living standards have risen in both countries because of low tariffs and quotas. You could make a reasonable argument American wages have stagnated as a result of very high illegal immigration impacting the bottom fifth of the working population. But trade? Naaa.

  108. Entropy

    I sorta agree with Tom when it comes to the Canadians and Euroweenies. Double standard pricks if ever their was. But try avoiding quota when selling beef or rugar to the USA. Same protectionist wall as the euros.

  109. JC

    Monst

    Stop the blog pooing as you could end up being charged. STFU.

  110. Entropy

    Yes JC. But there is no doubt the imposition of a Mercedes and BMW tariff is a pretty strong stick to use to force access for your stuff in Europe.

  111. JC

    Entropy
    #2733995, posted on June 11, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    I sorta agree with Tom when it comes to the Canadians and Euroweenies. Double standard pricks if ever their was. But try avoiding quota when selling beef or rugar to the USA. Same protectionist wall as the euros.

    Yep, I mentioned that the other day. Transpose Australia for America and what you have these people arguing is that because the Americans impose quotas and tariffs on our meat products we should impose the same on machinery and computer/phone imports from the US. It makes absolutely no sense and would impoverish the Australian consumer.

  112. JC

    Yes JC. But there is no doubt the imposition of a Mercedes and BMW tariff is a pretty strong stick to use to force access for your stuff in Europe.

    Well sure, if it ends up being a strategy to frighten the weenies into opening their borders to some sort of free trade alliance of sorts then that’s a good thing.

  113. Tel

    … the Communist Party of Russia with its sham elections is the world’s premier defender of Western democracy …

    The Communist Party of Russia has not done better than 30% primary vote in any election (Presidential or Parliamentary) for the past 20 years. The results are public knowledge… you are too stupid to read them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Russian_Federation

  114. Tom

    Don’t be silly. Low American tariffs has been a boon to the American consumer just as lowering import quotas, tariffs and removing exchange controls unilaterally (in the 80s) was a boon to the Australian consumer.

    Except the only idiots who lowered tariffs were the Americans (and the Australians) — who got screwed. The Euroweenies are still addicted to tariffs.

    Trump’s objective is to bring the hypocrites into line, not to join their stupid tariffs club.

    Are you going to bet against his success?

  115. Calli,
    re the photo. If you look carefull at Abes eyes and take into account the fact he has drooping eyelids. you’ll realise he’s looking at Macron, not Merkel.
    You’re right about the body language, eyes are in lock mode, head is back to focus, and arms are folded.
    Something Macron has said just previously to the photo being taken, has really pissed him off and uncharacteristically, he’s telegraphing it.
    I wonder what it was?

  116. Iampeter

    Do you support Trump’s tax cut or not?

    I don’t think cutting tax revenue without any cuts in spending can even be called a tax cut in the true meaning of the term. They are just going to print and borrow the difference so the taxpayers are still on the hook but with even less money because they gave out bonuses, etc when they shouldn’t have because of the incorrect market signals created.
    It’s a classic example of unseen costs.

    Also the term “tariffs” is being thrown around here with claims of its abilities that are making me laugh too loud for the location I am in. Here are the basics: tariffs are a tax on imports. The only country tariffs hurt is the one that implements them. They cannot be used to achieve “negotiation position/whatever” in retaliation to a trading partner implementing them. They can only hurt you. A lot of people here literally advocating cutting their noses to spite their faces.

  117. JC

    Except the only idiots who lowered tariffs were the Americans (and the Australians) — who got screwed.

    Really, so you would prefer the old system where we

    1. Had import quotas sold annually on textiles
    2.Exchange control requiring to obtain RBA approval in order to buy foreign currency when going overseas.
    3. Quotas on car imports.

    Just to name a few things.

    Yea, we’re all howling at the moon wanting those times back.

  118. JC

    I don’t think cutting tax revenue without any cuts in spending can even be called a tax cut in the true meaning of the term. They are just going to print and borrow the difference so the taxpayers are still on the hook but with even less money because they gave out bonuses, etc when they shouldn’t have because of the incorrect market signals created.
    It’s a classic example of unseen costs.

    This is such imbecilic sloppy thinking I wouldn’t even know where to start untangling it.

    There are moves to begin to cut spending. The Fed is NOT printing money to cover the deficit. QE is a strategy when interest rates are at zero because of deflationary tendencies. If the Fed was really printing massive amounts of money we would see hyperinflation and there is no indication of that – no matter what you believe.

    Also the term “tariffs” is being thrown around here with claims of its abilities that are making me laugh too loud for the location I am in. Here are the basics: tariffs are a tax on imports. The only country tariffs hurt is the one that implements them. They cannot be used to achieve “negotiation position/whatever” in retaliation to a trading partner implementing them. They can only hurt you. A lot of people here literally advocating cutting their noses to spite their faces.

    Stick to this argument as it makes some sense and leave the rest of the bullshit well alone as you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  119. Tom

    JC, the Australians and the Americans were screwed because the Euroweenies didn’t abandon their protectionism when we DID. Judged purely on their actions, the Euroweenies hate free trade. Back Trump to fix the situation. He doesn’t have the gutlessness of his predecesssors.

  120. Egor

    This might well explain monty…..
    ” the old anti-globalist left now looks to the globalists to save them from the populist right:” Steyn.

  121. Iampeter

    There are moves to begin to cut spending

    No there aren’t.

    The Fed is NOT printing money to cover the deficit.

    All the Fed is doing is printing money with rates still below 2% after a decade. This makes things like faux tax cuts possible.

    QE is a strategy when interest rates are at zero because of deflationary tendencies

    That’s just economic illiteracy. You may as well be speaking tongues. Just like posters here don’t know what a tariff is so you don’t know anything about economics.

    If the Fed was really printing massive amounts of money we would see hyperinflation

    It is and we will.

    Stick to this argument as it makes some sense and leave the rest of the bullshit well alone as you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    That was more of a general comment but you are functionally retarded as most posters here and when someone like me, who actually knows what he is talking about, does the courtesy to explain basics to you the response I expect is a thankyou not projection of your retardation.

  122. nemkat

    1. Had import quotas sold annually on textiles
    2.Exchange control requiring to obtain RBA approval in order to buy foreign currency when going overseas.
    3. Quotas on car imports.

    Just to name a few things.

    Yea, we’re all howling at the moon wanting those times back.

    1. Result of Tariff: A well made shirt and a well made pair of strides which lasted for years cost a couple of bucks more, and the bloke down the road got a job out of it.
    2.??
    3. A car, something that lasts for 20 years, costs a few bucks more, and the bloke down the road has a job.

    Yeah, it wasn’t a bad time when Australia had full employment, and you could buy quality goods at reasonable prices.

  123. Herodotus

    Bolton: Can I? Can I? Now can I? Oh boy! Oh boy! When can I?

    Tel’s into the lefty Kool Aid again.

  124. Boambee John

    Tariffs create free trade! Guns to stop violence! Nukes for peace!

    Very doubleplus good of you, Tom.

    Put down the bong, running dog, step away from.the keyboard until Uncle George’s next Wussia talking points come through.

  125. JC

    Iampeter
    #2734044, posted on June 11, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    There are moves to begin to cut spending

    No there aren’t.

    Yep there are. You’re simply an ill-informed raver.
    Care of the WSJ
    Trump Goes on a Spending Diet
    He promised no more Obama-size deficits. Can he lean on GOP lawmakers to deliver?

    The Fed is NOT printing money to cover the deficit.

    All the Fed is doing is printing money with rates still below 2% after a decade. This makes things like faux tax cuts possible.

    The inflation rate is extremely low and the Fed is hiking rates slowly. By every measure US monetary policy is justified where it is. If you have some other insight then , go ahead and share it.

    QE is a strategy when interest rates are at zero because of deflationary tendencies

    That’s just economic illiteracy. You may as well be speaking tongues. Just like posters here don’t know what a tariff is so you don’t know anything about economics.

    I’m afraid you’e the economic illiterate and in a sense more leftwing than you would care to admit. QE is a tool at the Fed’s disposal when there is a deflationary tendency with rates near zero, or approaching zero. If markets believed the Fed was going to print money forever it would immediately mean hyperinflation such as in Venezuela. The US nor the EU nor Japan went into a hyperinflationary spiral because markets believed the central banks would end QE as soon as core inflation reached or looked like reaching the target. You really have no idea what you’re talking about.

    If the Fed was really printing massive amounts of money we would see hyperinflation

    It is and we will.

    Lol. Markets are wrong but Peter is right. That’s exactly how leftwingers think.

    Stick to this argument as it makes some sense and leave the rest of the bullshit well alone as you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    That was more of a general comment but you are functionally retarded as most posters here and when someone like me, who actually knows what he is talking about, does the courtesy to explain basics to you the response I expect is a thankyou not projection of your retardation.

    Actually, you have no idea what you’re talking about and it shows. Lord it shows. Go ahead, keep hating Trump, but the reasons you do are ill-informed and you’re a Klutz.

  126. That was more of a general comment but you are functionally retarded as most posters here and when someone like me, who actually knows what he is talking about, does the courtesy to explain basics to you the response I expect is a thankyou not projection of your retardation.

    This fella has no shame.

  127. BorisG

    The people of Crimea clearly voted in favour of joining the Russian Federation

    Give us a break Tel. This referendum under the Russian guns was about as fair as elections in the Soviet Union.

  128. BorisG

    Putin is a dick, but by saying that it doesn’t mean the EU or its supporters are any good either.

    No no no. EU has its flaws, but it is not even remotely comparable to Russia. and sorry I know what I am talking about as I regularly visit both.

  129. BorisG

    Russia has no concept of the rule of law, or independent judiciary, so you have zero protection from the authorities. The current trend is for local and regional authorities to extort businesses large and small on a threat of criminal charges (which can be easily manufactured as the laws are pretty vague). This was first used against political opponents but now against anyone who has a reasonably successful business.

  130. BorisG

    Wrong. Trump’s strategy is extremely rational and calculated, using protectionist devices like tariffs to tear down protectionism: “Listen, you idiots, if you stop using tariffs to punish American exports, we will stop using them against you.”

    WAW. So all this support from Steel workers is just for show? They will be short-changed if Canada removes tariffs on milk?

    LOL

  131. BorisG

    It makes absolutely no sense and would impoverish the Australian consumer.

    sure it will but so do ANY sanctions. If trade wasn’t mutually beneficial, it won’t be occurring, so sanctions would be useless. When you are imposing a sanction, you always make a sacrifice. And you can make this smart, by targeting Trump heartland.

  132. JC, the Australians and the Americans were screwed because the Euroweenies didn’t abandon their protectionism when we DID. Judged purely on their actions, the Euroweenies hate free trade. Back Trump to fix the situation. He doesn’t have the gutlessness of his predecesssors.

    Australian consumers get cheap Italian tomatoes etc, subsidised by the Euros. Aussie primary producers can’t sell into Europe much, but that’s okay they have China and India on their doorstep, and they are more competitive as a result. Win/win for unilateral Australian free trade policy.

    Trump loves tariffs as weapons, and he loves a winner-picking anti-competitive subsidy too if his coal policy is anything to go by.

    But of course, as Kates rightly says, it’s all about “which side you are on”, so there is no point arguing economic theory with you. Your minds are made up: Trump is your god.

  133. BorisG

    The only country tariffs hurt is the one that implements them.

    Not. So. Fast.

    If tariffs only hurt the one that implements them, then Canada and EU would not be up in arms. It will hurt Canadian and EU steel manufacturers big time. Will also hurt US steel consumers, but talking of the net benefit fort a country is a mistake. It will benefit some in the US and hurt others. And the benefit will be more concentrated in smaller number of people (steel workers), who will vote Trump in droves, while the harm will be dispersed among many consumers and may not result in any visible effect.

  134. Iampeter

    You’re simply an ill-informed raver

    Hey dummy, just read back the thread and see for yourself that my response to you was pretty normal and then you responded as the “ill-informed raver”, which is a great way to describe many posters here btw, spouting the usual economic and politically illiterate gibberish I have come to expect and come here to be amused by.

    But I won’t be falling into that sneaky trap again!

  135. BorisG

    Australian consumers get cheap Italian tomatoes etc, subsidised by the Euros.

    I believe all tomatoes sold in Australia are grown in Australia. Including the Italian variety.

  136. I believe all tomatoes sold in Australia are grown in Australia. Including the Italian variety.

    I was thinking more of passata.

  137. You’re right that the fresh tomatoes are local Boris, but much of the tinned and bottled stuff is from Italy.

    https://shop.coles.com.au/a/a-national/product/mutti-tomato-passata

  138. Snoopy

    Poo’s dreamings:

    Trump loves tariffs as weapons, and he loves a winner-picking anti-competitive subsidy too if his coal policy is anything to go by.

    Trump in Quebec:

    He then proposed a “free trade zone” in which member countries would drop all tariffs, subsidies, and other barriers to trade:

  139. JC

    Iampeter

    I called you ill-informed because you are.

    spouting the usual economic and politically illiterate gibberish I have come to expect and come here to be amused by.

    You’re saying the Fed is printing money and the country will fall into a hyperinflation cycle is a bold prediction unsupported by any evidence nor the market. In other words you’re a fat mouthed ill-informed Trump hater with emotional issues.

    But I won’t be falling into that sneaky trap again!

    No problems, as I’ll continue marking your comments like this one with a F.

  140. He then proposed a “free trade zone” in which member countries would drop all tariffs, subsidies, and other barriers to trade:

    Yeah it’s called NAFTA, and Trump hates it.

  141. JC

    Yeah it’s called NAFTA, and Trump hates it.

    No, he asn’t referring to NAFTA, you obese lesbian. He was suggesting an Atlantic free trade zone.

    If you’re going to poo all over the site, please use toilet paper, Monst.

  142. Snoopy

    NAFTA lifted all tariffs, subsidies, and other barriers to trade between the US and Canada? Tell me more.

  143. JC

    Snoopy

    When NAFTA was negotiated, far more Canadian and Mexican tariffs were reduced. At the time, the Americans actually got a decent deal.

  144. Snoopy

    Trump objects to Canada selling into the US more steel than it makes.

  145. He was suggesting an Atlantic free trade zone.

    Not gonna happen.

  146. Snoopy

    The poo blogger doesn’t really care about trade. He’s just pissed with Trump for blowing off the G7 sessions on gender and climate.

  147. JC

    Whether it happens or not, that was what he was referring to, you hysterical lesbian.

  148. Snoopy

    He was suggesting an Atlantic free trade zone.

    Not gonna happen.

    Trump called their bluff and exposed their duplicity. No wonder they were pissed.

  149. My point, JC, is that he doesn’t believe in free trade zones, otherwise he’d support NAFTA. He was trolling.

    If he’s the reincarnation of Rothbard and hates EU and Canadian subsidies so much, how about he tells his Iowa people that he’s going to drop subsidies for corn? Yeah didn’t think so. He’s full of it.

  150. Iampeter

    No JC, from your posts it doesn’t look like you know what the fed actually does, what “inflation” even means and should not be posting anything on this topic, let alone with the tone of authority you’ve taken.

    Classic cat cringe.

  151. JC

    No JC, from your posts it doesn’t look like you know what the fed actually does, what “inflation” even means and should not be posting anything on this topic, let alone with the tone of authority you’ve taken.

    Classic cat cringe.

    Peter, stay away from this stuff as you don’t understand it and no amount of bluster can cover it up.

  152. Iampeter

    Hahahahahaha, JC piss off you spastic.

  153. Iampeter

    You’re saying the Fed is printing money and the country will fall into a hyperinflation cycle is a bold prediction unsupported by any evidence nor the market.

    Hahahahaha. Yea I’m really reaching with this one.

    Please teach me economatronics JC you clearly seem well informed and totally not a cluess, middle aged embarrassment spending time in sinclairs blog and knowing nothing about the basics.

  154. JC

    Peter,

    It’s econometrics, not economatronics for a start. Econometrics is the study of economics through statistics, you appalling imbecile. You’re referring to the wrong area of economics, as we’re discussing macro-economics and monetary economics. You don’t even know if you’re on a football field or a swimming pool.

    And yes, you are most certainly reaching, because no one would agree with you that the US is falling into hyper inflation, you economic mufti. Stop soiling the blog with bilge.

  155. Tel

    Herodotus #2734057, Tel’s into the lefty Kool Aid again.

    Are you seriously pretending you don’t know that Bolton openly called for first strike against North Korea? Something that could easily result in something on the order of a million casualties (admittedly, the average American does not care about Korean casualties, but it’s still a dreadful thing to be pushing for).

    Do you dispute this quote from Bolton?

    Pre-emption opponents argue that action is not justified because Pyongyang does not constitute an “imminent threat.” They are wrong. The threat is imminent, and the case against pre-emption rests on the misinterpretation of a standard that derives from prenuclear, pre-ballistic-missile times. Given the gaps in U.S. intelligence about North Korea, we should not wait until the very last minute. That would risk striking after the North has deliverable nuclear weapons, a much more dangerous situation.

    More than that, Bolton has form for bullshitting the path into war. He was front and center in the whole Iraq “Weapons of Mass Destruction” claim. Yes I know they found some rusty mustard gas shells in a warehouse, not in military serviceable condition, but Bolton was making much bigger claims than that. Ray McGovern (who was right there at the time) documents the stuff that went on, including deliberately falsified intelligence:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/05/coming-attraction-lunatic-loose-in-west-wing/

  156. Tel

    Documentation of Bolton’s involvement in the falsified Nigerian yellowcake intelligence that was used to justify the Iraq war.

    https://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2005/05/13/john-boltons-yellowcake/

  157. struth

    Notice the hypocrisy of the left.
    No problem with tariffs being imposed on the U.S. by socialist shitholes, but the worlds going to end if the US retaliates.

    Insanity.

    This is exactly what the whole world needs right now.
    Crony corporatist Euros and the rest being forced to compete on a more level playing field.
    Totally f..ing awesome move on Trumps part.

    Notice in the true insane left, (monty) the fact that when a right winger does it he adopts the reasoning of the right to oppose it, but when the socialists do it …….silence.
    Totally tribal hypocrisy so blatant it’s laughable.

    Oh, and Iampeter, you are either very young with a lot more to learn or an incredibly thick old bastard.
    Either way, this is all above your head.
    May I suggest a site like quiltmaking for beginners, or contemporary arse scratching.

  158. Iampeter

    It’s econometrics, not economatronics for a start.

    I may actually die laughing, omg, why is someone like you reading sinclairs blog.

    Omg I can’t stop laughing.

  159. Iampeter

    Oh and Struth joins in!
    The endless projection of the fucktards posting here is almost too much.

  160. Snoopy

    1 amp eter is a dim bulb.

  161. Trump has with ease outed many libertarians as essentially left-wing hacks. I am looking at you Iampeter.

  162. struth

    Please fuck off Iampeter, you are lowering the overall IQ level of this site.

    It already suffers from enough left wing, TDS sufferers and open border loons.
    Monty and various sock puppets of grogulary.
    Come back in a few years.
    In the mean time see if you like sex and travel.

  163. JC

    I may actually die laughing, omg,

    Please let it happen.

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