Monday Forum: June 11, 2018

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  1. Herodotus

    Mrs Entropy works in community care and reckons a purple hair do is a clear sign of mental illness.

    Another one is failing to piss off (permanently) trolls who are here merely to run interference and degrade the conversation, thread after thread. Letting them stay is letting them win, letting them verbally masturbate on your lawn, and worse.
    It’s not an intellectual exercise allowing them to hang around, it’s a cop out. The blog is not improved, made more libertarianismy worthy by trolls of the sort we have here. Get us some better ones, ones worth responding to. These ones are crap.

  2. Roger

    Never mind Zoe, they flew a crew half way around the world and accommodated them in various 5* hotels for several weeks to bring us Matron Sarah Ferguson’s opinions on Wussiagate, such is the import of them.

  3. dopey

    60,000 years of Labor Party history to get to Luke Foley. A long way to go brother.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MUSIC
    Queen’s birthday honours: can’t fish, can’t play golf, but Brian Cadd AM can still sing up a storm

    The Australian
    12:00AM June 11, 2018

    Andrew McMillen
    Music Writer
    Brisbane
    @Andrew_McMillen

    In a career spanning more than five decades, there’s one addiction that Brian Cadd can’t shake, and that’s the electric thrill that courses through his body when he steps on stage.

    Today, Cadd becomes a member of the Order of Australia in recognition of his significant service to the music industry as a singer, songwriter, performer, mentor and producer.

    The accolade comes while Cadd, 71, is on yet another national tour that will take him to Launceston and Hobart this week.

    “That’s a real addiction,” he said. “It’s not an ego-based addiction, it’s just a sheer pleasure. I never get sick of it. I don’t know what I’d do if I couldn’t do it — I can’t play golf and I can’t fish.”

    Born in Perth and discovered on a television talent quest, Cadd began his musical career at the age of 12. In the mid-1960s, he joined The Groop, a pop band that burned brightly for several years with Cadd on keyboards and vocals. He then formed a rock group, Axiom, and struck out as a solo performer.

    Cadd’s 1972 self-titled album contained the single Ginger Man, which became one of his signature songs, alongside Let Go and Your Mama Don’t Dance

    From the Oz.

  5. Senile Old Guy

    The Australian Skeptics comment includes this:

    This includes not inviting anyone, in any capacity, who we suspect may cause others to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe.

    How precious!

  6. Frank

    Zoe Daniels, Virginia Trioli, Mrs Springer Jones, …

    What is it with the ABC and only promoting clearly sociopathic females.

  7. Snoopy

    Leigh Sales has Afghan truth tellers on tonight.

  8. Tintarella di Luna

    Leigh Sales has Afghan truth tellers on tonight.

    will she be brave enough to have Truth-teller Bosi on as a counterpoint

  9. H B Bear

    Roger – I think Mrs Snowcone must see the ALPBC as a source of funding to undertake her various adventures that most other geriatrics undertake on Scenic Tours or towing their own caravan around the place. Life is good at the staff co-op.

    The total budget for Mrs Snowcone’s US adventure would be an interesting question for Googles G at the next Senate Estimates given the ALPBC is now devoid of fat to cut.

  10. Death Giraffe

    This includes not inviting anyone, in any capacity, who we suspect may cause others to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe.

    ..
    If making people feel unwelcome is bad, then isn’t not inviting people, which is the ultimate form of not making people welcome also really bad, and therefore mustn’t they immediately not invite themselves?

  11. Boambee John

    Tinta at 1921

    Surely you jest?

  12. Snoopy

    Has the poo blogger been struck down with constipation?

  13. stackja

    Leigh only wants her answers.

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    will she be brave enough to have Truth-teller Bosi on as a counterpoint

    Ricardo Bosi would eat Leigh Sales alive, raw and without salt.

  15. Roger

    The total budget for Mrs Snowcone’s US adventure would be an interesting question for Googles G at the next Senate Estimates given the ALPBC is now devoid of fat to cut.

    Wouldn’t it just. Let’s hope someone is paying attention.

  16. egg_

    Zoe Daniels, Virginia Trioli, Mrs Springer Jones, …

    What is it with the ABC and only promoting clearly sociopathic females.

    They stick the knife in deeper.

  17. John Constantine

    Their abc is ‘Warring Down’ the west on multiple fronts.

    By having wymynsys packed full of rage spewing bile at Trump Making America Great Again, their abc is signalling that Hussein Obama getting a nobel peace prize for managing America into a declining submission to their great transnational totalitarian cartels was the golden age.

    Also signalling that Trump has a problem with angry wymynsys weeping and widdling with incoherent rage, but we sorta get that anyway and it isn’t votelosing poison if you don’t take the bait. [ look and learn Abbott.]

  18. H B Bear

    Leigh Sales has Afghan truth tellers on tonight.

    Surely this is another job for the ALPBC’s barbequed refugees specialist George Roberts? I suspect the end result is going to be exactly the same.

  19. Boambee John

    Zulu at 1925

    Ricardo Bosi would eat Leigh Sales alive, raw and without salt.

    But would he spit out the bones?

  20. Shy Ted

    Justin Trudeau didn’t even make the final.

  21. H B Bear

    Wouldn’t it just. Let’s hope someone is paying attention.

    When coupled with the ratings for Four Corners I suspect it might have been more cost effective to fly every viewer to the US and let them find out for themselves.

  22. Geriatric Mayfly

    Get rid of Labour Day instead’

    God Save the Queen.

  23. Death Giraffe

    I found a new use for my Victorian Institute of Teaching membership card today.
    It is the perfect size, shape and flexibility to apply fibreglass filler to the Model A’s mudguards.

  24. Peter

    “60,000 years of indigenous history”

    That would be like one year of indigenous history 59,770 times and then 230 years of recent indigenous history.

  25. will she be brave enough to have Truth-teller Bosi on as a counterpoint

    After his performance in the audience on Q&A, their ALPBC will never have Riccardo on any show, in any capacity.
    Records are kept, so that “wrongthinkers” are not re-invited.

  26. Roger

    Leigh Sales has Afghan truth tellers on tonight.

    Her intro boils down to:

    “This story is only half baked, but we’re going to screen it anyway.”

  27. Snoopy

    Leigh Sales doesn’t bother to explain how the ABC has the contents of a secret report.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Tintarella di Luna

    #2733992, posted on June 11, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    Robert de Niro had a few good parts but now he’s an old washed up hasbeen whose movie parts of late have been reduced to toilet/underwear humour like Meet the Fokkers and Meet the Little Fokkers

    I have always thought he was a fair-to-middling actor with a wafer thin range.
    His forays into comedic roles simply laid that bare … excrutiating face pulling and forced delivery which wouldn’t be out of place in a Grade 3 Christmas play.

  29. C.L.

    DeNiro’s father abandoned him and his mother to be with another man.
    He’s an angry misanthrope for a reason.

  30. Snoopy

    If we saw Milay we didn’t recognise him.
    Yes we had weapons. We were storing them temporarily for a friend.

  31. Delta A

    So pleasant on The Cat without the juvenile tripe spewed out incessantly by the trolls.

  32. Rae

    The First Boer War was fought between 1880 to 1881, and Queensland never sent any troops, Native police or not. No Australian colony sent organized contingents overseas until 1885, when New South Wales sent a contingent to the Sudan.

    Are you saying Grigraekat is …. wrong?

    Barfly. No point including me in that reference. I didn’t say anything about that. Not a word.

  33. Tintarella di Luna

    DeNiro’s father abandoned him and his mother to be with another man.
    He’s an angry misanthrope for a reason.

    I’m sorry to hear that but sometimes there are silver linings in the most unlikely places/circumstances.

  34. Rae

    Good Old Snipey Snark. One can always rely on you for a drive-by “valued””contribution”.

  35. egg_

    Spoke too soon.

    Appears to be a regular premonition.

  36. Snoopy

    The village head said the family had lied to the SAS and had sheltered the killer.

  37. stackja

    Abusive language loses.

  38. Delta A

    Appears to be a regular premonition.

    Is this an accusation?

  39. Shy Ted

    Intrepid reporter tracks down the survivor of gay sexual abuse revelations – “Tom Ballard offered me a starring role on Tonightly but he didn’t deliver and the whole thing left me with a nasty taste. Anyway I went off and became a famous comedian instead.” #Mentoo

  40. Frank

    You have to wonder about the type that seems to live only to feed off the disgust it generates in others. Their children must be so proud of them. Only kidding, if they exist they would have stopped speaking to them years ago.

  41. stackja

    Snoopy stop with facts. Fantasy fits narrative better.

  42. Steve trickler

    Scandal. Bad parenting…… Outrage!

    To be expected.

    It involves young children, being allowed in some cases, to be as close as a meter, from objects travelling at 170 mph. 200 mph at various vantage points.

    I see no problem with it. Others will.



  43. Tintarella di Luna

    You have to wonder about the type that seems to live only to feed off the disgust it generates in others.

    My guess is they’d be the type found in swamps and other damp places, like outside dunnies and wet patches in parks, oh, and basements.

  44. Top Ender

    Nice work if you can get a piece of it!

    Cost of Future Submarine Project in the spotlight

    Maritime and Undersea Warfare

    11 June 2018
    By: Amelia McMahon

    As speculation mounts on the cost of both the acquisition and sustainment of the Future Submarine project, with estimates ranging from $100 billion to $200 billion, Defence has been warned to better consider the interests of the taxpayer.

    During the most recent round of Senate estimates, Rear Admiral Greg Sammut, Head Future Submarine Program, confirmed the $50 billion price tag in the 2016 Integrated Investment Program (IIP) was only in relation to the acquisition of the submarines. He then offered up $50 billion as the current estimate for the sustainment of the submarines into the 2080s.

    and further on:

    Elsewhere, Defence has been under fire for what has been dubbed reckless spending on other aspects of the project.

    In 2017, the submarine project paid one person $75,000 for one month’s consultancy work and then paid another consultant $4,500 per day for an entire year. There is also an investigation on-foot into misappropriations of public funds by a former project team member.

    On top of that there is the bikes and fridge debacle.

    Defence bought 16 bikes here in Australia, dismantled them and then air freighted them to France where a French bicycle mechanic was then paid to assemble the bikes. It also bought three special lockable compartment fridges for $13,770 and is in the process of taking the locks off.

  45. Shy Ted

    The former South Australian premier Jay Weatherill says he is feeling “more than a little embarrassed” after breaking his leg while bushwalking with his family in a national park, triggering a rescue operation. He was taken to his legacy, the New Royal Adelaide Hospital on Saturday where he is still in the waiting room. Doctor Vindu Kavaratnashaken said he is likely to have his leg Xrayed before the weekend.

  46. egg_

    Is this an accusation?

    Take it however you like, it’s becoming a pattern.

  47. herodotus

    Lowbrow Trudeau humour via Zero Hedge! “Internet mesmerised”.
    Lotsa photos.

  48. cohenite

    nemkat must be out having a squat in the gender free zone dunny. Christ knows what the other one does.

  49. egg_

    Frank
    #2734106, posted on June 11, 2018 at 7:53 pm

    If you judge real folk from behind a keyboard.

  50. Tintarella di Luna

    He was taken to his legacy, the New Royal Adelaide Hospital on Saturday where he is still in the waiting room.

    Retribution

  51. Oh come on

    Could somebody please please please put sTan Grant out of his misery?

    Kim Jong-un meets Donald Trump with North Korea militarily at its most powerful and the United States in a crisis of confidence.

    LOL only an ABC uber-onanist could portray Trump as holding the weak hand in his negotiation with Kim.

    Of course, America is still strong. It remains the world’s biggest economy and boasts a military more powerful than the world has ever known.

    But we have entered what political scientist and journalist Fareed Zakaria has dubbed the “post-American world”.

    ROFL seriously?? sTan’s hypothesis rests on the empty-headed musings of Fareed Zakaria??

    Anyway, the rest is the same sTan undergraduate name-dropping essayist style. Awkward.

  52. herodotus

    Doctor Vindu Kavaratnashaken said he is likely to have his leg Xrayed before the weekend.

    “We just need a really fast pedaller on the x-ray power supply generator. Perhaps one of the Tour Down Under chaps could drop by and do a stint for us.”

  53. Delta A

    Take it however you like

    That’s a cop out. State your suspicions honestly.

  54. Tintarella di Luna

    LOL only an ABC uber-onanist could portray Trump as holding the weak hand in his negotiation with Kim.

    This may be a side-effect of too much melanin

  55. Oh come on

    Isn’t Fareed Zakaria a confirmed plagiarist? Awesome citation, sTan.

  56. Death Giraffe

    But we have entered what political scientist and journalist Fareed Zakaria has dubbed the “post-American world”.

    ..
    When we do eventually enter the “post American world”, we’re all either fucking dead or eating shit in a third world prison cell.
    Exactly what do these morons think such a future holds for them?

  57. egg_

    Delta A
    #2734120, posted on June 11, 2018 at 8:09 pm

    Watch the character slip.

  58. Frank

    egg:

    not sure how real the procession of socks are. Does that make it OK to judge them?

  59. entropy

    Defence procurement would have to be the most inefficient, despicable lurk in the whole APS.
    Had the misfortune to work with a pair that were shafted by John Moore back in the day when he decided to do a clean out (from then on the knives were out and he didn’t last). They had liberal party connections so were looked after by being put in a more frugal department. This pair spent the first week complaining about their new digs, which were the same as everyone else up to the Dept Sec, the next couple picking out better furniture, and after that setting up a second office in Melbourne to visit each week, complete with apartments. Untouchable unfortunately. We were glad to eventually see the back of them.

  60. Oh come on

    Seriously. Wankers like Fareed Zakaria are pinching the hymn sheets from the people who were saying the same crap running up to the invasion of Iraq. The ‘coalition of the willing’ was evidence of a “post American world” where everything legitimate takes place under the aegis of the UN Security Council. It was bullshit then, and it’s still bullshit. Fareed Zakaria is an intellectual jackal, like he always was. And sTan picks over the miserable remains of Zakaria’s already pathetic meal.

    Sad.

  61. Tintarella di Luna

    Just Imagine if we had real leaders like…

    Yes Riccardo Bosi is certainly someone I’d follow if he chooses to lead. However, in our benighted political system will someone like Riccardo Bosi ever be given the chance.

  62. egg_

    Frank
    #2734126, posted on June 11, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    I think it’s a sport for Septimus and he has both friendly and unfriendly socks.

  63. Delta A

    I can’t follow your thinking, egg. And I’ve wasted enough time trying. But if you’re trying to link me to the troll, you’re completely scrambled.

    Oh, and think how much pleasure you are affording it by these baseless accusations.

  64. egg_

    Delta A
    #2734132, posted on June 11, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    You’d be well advised to give your troll premonitions a little more delay.

  65. Armadillo

    Trump isn’t talking to North Korea for no reason. This is all about trade. The Chinese are likely shitting themselves. Be interesting to see how it pans out.

  66. Death Giraffe

    I refuse to believe Delta is anything other than what she claims to be: a 900 year old teacher.

  67. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone, “It’s real.”

  68. Delta A

    Retired teacher, Arky. But thanks for the support.

  69. Rae

    I refuse to believe Delta is anything other than what she claims to be: a 900 year old teacher.

    55 years a teacher, so Old Snipey Snark said in one of her “valued””contributions”. From the age of 13.

  70. Snoopy

    Clapper says Putin was waging war on the US by attacking the campaign of the man who wouldn’t win.

  71. Delta A

    Link or it’s a lie, troll.

  72. Top Ender

    The Australian model?

    A ship carrying some 630 migrants rescued while trying to cross the Mediterranean is stranded at sea after being turned away by both Italy and Malta.

    The Aquarius, which has more than 120 children and seven pregnant women onboard, saved hundreds from drowning in international waters on Saturday, but neither Rome nor Valetta has so far allowed it to dock.

    The two nations are currently locked in a standoff, with Italy’s new interior minister Matteo Salvini threatening to bar all rescue ships from docking in the country’s ports unless Malta takes on the Aquarius.

    Link

  73. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone dishonestly confuses the DNC hack which Hillary destroyed.

  74. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone dishonestly confuses the DNC hack with the emails which Hillary destroyed.

  75. Rae

    Link or it’s a lie

    No lie, Old Snipey Snark. You did say it. Find it for yourself.

  76. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone fails to declare that Steele was engaged by the Clinton campaign.

  77. rickw

    A ship carrying some 630 migrants rescued while trying to cross the Mediterranean is stranded at sea after being turned away by both Italy and Malta.

    You only have to torpedo the crap out of one to end the whole farce. The more activists taken out in this the better.

  78. Snoopy

    In the chaos of the Trump campaign..

  79. Gab

    Delta, don’t be drawn into an unedifying “argument” with grigoryrae. It’s pointless, nothing is learned and it’s a waste of time. Just ignore it.

  80. Rae

    We will watch 4 Corners on Catch-up. Mueller already has much more than it will reveal. Wussia Wussia is still very much alive and well. Softly softly catchee monkey

  81. Baldrick

    Scroll the fuckwit Troll 👹 ™

  82. rickw

    Doctor Vindu Kavaratnashaken said he is likely to have his leg Xrayed before the weekend.

    Followed by the accidental decapitation of his good leg.

  83. candy

    A classic picture of the world leaders. what a moment in time.
    Justin Trudeau will be spitting chips he’s not in that picture. Love the look on Abe’s face and Mrs Merkel looks really interesting.

    Trust D. Trump to add drama and excitement. He’s doing well by America and he sure adds entertainment.

  84. Delta A

    Thanks for the wake-up, Gab. Don’t know what got into me there.

    Baldy will be quite cross with me. 🙂

  85. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone: Carter Page was groomed by Russian spooks to be a spy. Why hasn’t Mueller charged him?

  86. Some History

    Trudeau at the G7 beach party.

    https://imgur.com/wSphSn3

    WARNING
    – Do NOT view within 1 hour of meals.
    – May cause temporary blindness.
    – Possible dizziness and revulsion.
    – Nightmares may persist for several days after viewing.
    – May result in ongoing psychotherapy.

  87. Farmer Gez

    We will watch 4 Corners on Catch-up. Mueller already has much more than it will reveal. Wussia Wussia is still very much alive and well. Softly softly catchee monkey

    And when you catch that monkey Rae. Do you give it a good spanking?

  88. Snoopy

    Oooh, Carter Page accepted an offer to give a speech in Russia at the same place as Obama had.

    No mention of Bill Crimton’s fabulously well paid speech.

  89. rickw

    I like the first and there are a couple of so so’s.

    Couple of minger’s at the end, generally not bad.

  90. jupes

    Mrs Snowcone dishonestly confuses the DNC hack with the emails which Hillary destroyed.

    Dunno. I reckon there is more chance she is just pig-ignorant.

    If all you followed was DNC propaganda then it would be easy to conflate the two.

  91. MPH

    Interesting chart on the BBC article showing total arrivals in Europe are way down the last few years (Italy still getting hammered) – fake news or has it really slowed right down?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44432056

  92. Rae

    The former South Australian premier Jay Weatherill says he is feeling “more than a little embarrassed” after breaking his leg while bushwalking with his family in a national park, triggering a rescue operation. He was taken to his legacy, the New Royal Adelaide Hospital on Saturday where he is still in the waiting room. Doctor Vindu Kavaratnashaken said he is likely to have his leg Xrayed before the weekend.

    Interesting. Inventive even. Shame no source provided.

    Weatherill, and the ABC, mentioned Port Pirie Hospital only. And nothing about still waiting for x-ray.

  93. Home porn
    I like the first and there are a couple of so so’s.

    You can’t trust anybody these days.
    That link of JC’s is not to what you might expect.

  94. old bloke

    Snoopy
    #2734090, posted on June 11, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    Leigh Sales doesn’t bother to explain how the ABC has the contents of a secret report.

    She found them in a filing cabinet in a second-hand dealer’s shop in Fyshwick.

  95. Rae

    No monkey for me to spank, Farmer Gez. I’m sure you know where the saying comes from. Others have mentioned it here before.

  96. Snoopy

    So we’ve had 30 minutes on Carter Page and then Mrs Snowcone drops the bombshell. Page was investigated by the FBI but they couldn’t find any wrongdoing.

    They’re obviously not as clever as Mrs Snowcone. She just knows. Women’s intuition.

  97. stackja

    JC
    #2734155, posted on June 11, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    Frank Lloyd Wright designs?

  98. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcone gives weight to second hand hearsay.

    According to Mrs Snowcone, Mifsud was working for the Russians.

  99. Snoopy

    Perhaps Mrs Snowcone could turn her sleuthing towards finding Mifsud.

  100. Snoopy

    Some evidence that Mifsud was working for the Russians and not FBI would be nice.

  101. Snoopy

    Mrs Snowcones feeds Clapper lines. He delivers.

    Next week, sex.

  102. Fisky

    Hey Grigs/Tomix, how’s the Incel Rebellion coming along? Doing Elliott Rodgers proud I see!

  103. Death Giraffe

    Who knew such a thing existed?
    ..

    How is Brain Tanned Leather Made

    This kind of leather comes from wild game such as deer. The brains of these animals have enough of the right acids and chemicals to tan their hides. Because of the specialized nature of brain tanning, it is not carried out on a large commercial scale. Instead it is used by hunters to preserve the hides of fresh kills.

  104. JC

    Snoopy

    You actually think there’s a chance sour tits will bonk the clapper next week? Doesn’t sound right.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    John Kizon gives surprise Facebook live interview in Singapore
    Staff writersPerthNow
    June 11, 2018 5:15PM
    Topics
    Donald Trump
    World Politics

    IT seems the whole world has swarmed to Singapore for Donald Trump’s historic meeting with Kim Jong-Un – including colourful Perth identity John Kizon.

    Voice of America reporter Greta Van Susteren was panning her surrounds during a live Facebook post when Kizon – saying something along the lines of “I’m from Australia” – gravitated towards the camera and enthusiastically accepted her request for an interview.

    After pumping up Ms Van Susteren’s catalogue of television work and plugging the nightclub he claims to own – Metro City – Kizon begins to declare his and his country’s supposed affinity for Trump.

    “I love Trump – big supporter of Trump,” he tells the reporter’s 1.2 million Facebook followers.

    “We love him in Australia. He’s a little bit controversial but I think he has to do that to clean the swamp up

    This one’s for Western Australian Cats. “Colorful Perth identity, John Kizon.” Snork, snork..

  106. Snoopy

    Snoopy

    You actually think there’s a chance sour tits will bonk the clapper next week? Doesn’t sound right.

    I don’t think so, but they are obviously very sympatico. And excited.

  107. Pedro the Ignorant

    Brain tanning skins is an old technique from way, way back.

    The brain from the dead animal is mashed with water into a soup and used to soak and soften the hide after scraping, washing and drying.

    Not for the squeamish, but there are plenty of modern chemical alternatives to brain soup.

    Chook egg yolks will achieve the same results.

  108. JC

    I don’t think so, but they are obviously very sympatico. And excited.

    Springer could be in trouble if the Clapper found her to be a little hottie.

  109. JC

    Next week’s Wussiagate brought to you by the ABC.

    Does the Clapper bonk sour tits and is it shown just before Q&A.

  110. Geriatric Mayfly

    The two nations are currently locked in a standoff, with Italy’s new interior minister Matteo Salvini threatening to bar all rescue ships from docking in the country’s ports unless Malta takes on the Aquarius.

    Any remote and deserted beach will do. Throw a rope to shore and the ever vigilant humanitarian, Sarah Sea-Patrol, will be there and ready to haul it up onto the sands.

  111. Death Giraffe

    The brain from the dead animal is mashed with water into a soup and used to soak and soften the hide after scraping, washing and drying.

    ..
    How in God’s name would anyone ever have figured that out?

  112. Candy

    Do people really live in those weird houses?

  113. Pedro the Ignorant

    How in God’s name would anyone ever have figured that out?

    One of the mysteries of the Ages, like who was the first person to eat a raw oyster and declare it delicious?

    My Uncle Harry a Korean war vet showed me the brain tanning technique on roo skins back when the Earth was young.

    I seem to recall doing the technicolour yawn a time or two. 🙂

  114. feelthebern

    According to Fairfax the SAS kicked a guy off a cliff.
    According to ABC the SAS kicked a guy into a ditch.
    They both used the same local journo.
    Which is true?
    Plus the Fairfax story quoted to a SAS source who saw a body, at the bottom of a cliff from a couple hundred meters as the chopper got out of there.
    I called bull shit on this on Saturday morning.
    I am glad there are holes in the story already.

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    You actually think there’s a chance sour tits will bonk the clapper next week? Doesn’t sound right.
    I don’t think so, but they are obviously very sympatico. And excited.

    Didn’t watch. Who was most moistest?

  116. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One of the mysteries of the Ages, like who was the first person to eat a raw oyster and declare it delicious?

    Who was the first person to drink aged grape juice, and discover wine?

  117. John Constantine

    New South Wales Roads department are having a real duck season blitzing ‘ baled commodities’ as livestock hay fodder flows north on trucks during the big dry.

    Nobody wants hay dropping off trucks and killing people, now that even round rolls are being trucked big distances, you do want attention to detail when doing the tie down process, which is more important than sitting in the cab and steering.

    Not a straw over width zero tolerance from some notorious individuals goes to back the claim by some that the direct moral descendants of the Rum Corp are the NSW road patrolling mermaids.

  118. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not a straw over width zero tolerance from some notorious individuals goes to back the claim by some that the direct moral descendants of the Rum Corp are the NSW road patrolling mermaids.

    There’s a term I haven’t heard for a while.

  119. Bruce

    “60,000 years of history”

    But WHICH aborigines?

    The sadly demised Tasmanians?

    The Mungo folk?

    The “little people” of North Queensland?

    Who supplanted / “culturally absorbed” whom in all those ages?

  120. Bruce in WA

    Who was the first person to drink aged grape juice, and discover wine?

    Who was the first person to decide making coffee from beans in a civet’s shit would be a good idea?

  121. Bruce in WA

    The ABC will get its $83 million funding cut reversed if Labor wins the next election.

    Bill Shorten is promising to guarantee funding certainty to the national broadcaster after the last round of cuts in the federal budget.

    “This year alone, this out-of-touch government has cut $83.7 million in ABC funding, launched two damaging public broadcasting inquiries and has three bills before parliament to meddle with the ABC Charter,” the opposition leader said in a statement today.

    Mr Shorten says Labor will reverse the funding cuts from this year’s budget, which came on top of more than $200 million worth of cuts in previous years.

    “At a time when too many Australians feel disengaged from their democracy and distrustful of their representatives, Labor wants to restore trust and faith in our institutions,” Mr Shorten said.

    Oz — paywalled

    That should fuck Labor totally.

    But it won’t.

  122. cohenite

    So that arsehole Wetherill broke his leg; all those other bones.

  123. Dr Fred Lenin

    Pedro I often think of something and wonder who was the first person to do it. As you say oysters. Probably saw birds eating them, .bows and arrows though the indigenius here never invented them ,they had them in NewGuinea ,and the bushmen in South Africa ,plus native Americans north and south ,strange that .where did they originate and when ?

  124. Bruce in WA

    And here’s the photo Merkin… Merkel didn’t want shown

  125. Makka

    The ABC will get its $83 million funding cut reversed if Labor wins the next election.

    There isn’t 10 additional votes in it for Labor. But what Shorten will get is a revved up , manic, anti- Lib ABC team going all out ala CNN to depose Turdball. Good.

    Turdball should have defunded this Marxist hive ages ago. Let him cop the cowards dividend.

  126. rickw

    Who knew such a thing existed?

    Let guess, no chrome tanned leather for the model A’s leather seats, instead planning to raid the local jihadi’s goat flock and DIY.

  127. rickw

    And here’s the photo Merkin… Merkel didn’t want shown

    Who’s the retarded kid that looks like Fidel Castro?

  128. rickw

    “60,000 years of history”

    60,000 years of butchering each other and people who might have arrived just a tad earlier.

  129. Pedro the Ignorant

    Pedro, I often think of something and wonder who was the first person to do it.

    Dr Fred at 10.25pm.

    Humans are generally incredibly inventive, especially when it comes to the basic needs of survival, but it has to be said that some classes of humans are far less inventive or adaptable than others.

    Easy availability of food and and a gentle climate have usually lead to and indolent and torpid culture in successive generations.

  130. Snoopy

    God, sTan Grant is a wanker. Absolutely no recognition that Trump’s sanctions are hurting NK bigly.

  131. Rae

    apply fibreglass filler to the Model A’s mudguards

    You are using fibreglass in the restoration of a 1929/30 Model A Ford? Seriously?

    That’s disgraceful.

  132. Snoopy

    Poor Zoe thinks Justin Trudeau is a friend of Trump. Absolutely no acknowledgment that Trudeau’s Canadian Liberal Party is on the nose.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    60,000 years of butchering each other and people who might have arrived just a tad earlier.

    “Full blood” Aborigine – initiation scars and all – was asked if he’d like to go back to living in 1769 – a skin cloak, couple of spears, couple of dogs, few young fellas in tow.

    “Fuck off. That’s why you whitefella’s invented motor cars and Makka’s.”

  134. None

    Lol that’s so funny, all the g7 idiots lining up to see Trump. And Merkel doing her standover routine absolutely brilliant.
    Trump is trolling them big time.

  135. None

    Memo to my fellow women. Yes you can certainly help who you fall in love with. Number one, never fall in love with a married man. Number two, never ever fall in love with a Muslim man much less be stupid enough to convert to Islam. Sharia law is clear: the kids always always always go to the father. No shared care or nothing. You’re just a prostitute under an Islamic cloak, at best a womb for hire. Nothing more. Lawyer my foot. You married a goat herd; your son is now going to be a goat herd and you’ll never see him again. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/aussie-mums-fight-in-sharia-court-to-bring-son-home/ar-AAyurX1

  136. cohenite

    isn’t merkel ex stasi?

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Memo to my fellow women. Yes you can certainly help who you fall in love with. Number one, never fall in love with a married man. Number two, never ever fall in love with a Muslim man much less be stupid enough to convert to Islam

    Ask Sally Falkner or Jacqueline Gillespie,,,let google be your friend.

  138. None

    Australian Sceptics are a bunch of wankers that never made it out of nappies and short pants. Cracks me up that pseudo intellects like Helen Dale were (still are?) committed members of that parade of social misfits.

  139. BrettW

    Catching up on the Drum. Think this episode breaks the record for anti Trump comments.

  140. Death Giraffe

    That’s disgraceful.

    ..
    It isn’t Jesus.
    It’s a car.
    By the way, all cars have a bit of filler in them.
    Even if it is only in the form of primer.
    You sand metal, it requires filling before it gets a topcoat.
    Derrrrrrrr.

  141. Oh come on

    Arky, you ought to know better.

  142. Oh come on

    It knew literally nothing about what you mentioned prior to you mentioning it.

  143. Death Giraffe

    It wasn’t for Grigory’s benefit OCO.
    There might be four year olds reading who don’t know how paint works.

  144. Oh come on

    Catching up on the Drum. Think this episode breaks the record for anti Trump comments.

    Doubt it. Every ABC piece is 100% anti-Trump.

  145. Makka

    Remember the guy who collapsed while testifying at the Bank RC?;

    An estimated $4 billion of clients’ funds and 20,000 customers could now be in limbo after financial planning group Dover Financial Advisers abruptly closed down just weeks after its owner collapsed while testifying at the banking royal commission.

    The Melbourne-based company is one of the country’s 10 largest largest financial planning businesses with more than 400 advisers and about 260 practices across the country.

    On Friday, owner Terry McMaster wrote to Dover advisers telling them they were no longer able to provide new financial advice under the company’s Australian Financial Services Licence (AFSL).

  146. None

    Google can’t tell me anything I don’t know, Zulu. Well not about stupid women. I’m told that 90% of women who are in jail are there because of something stupid they did for a man.

  147. Oh come on

    When the ABC assembles a ‘balanced’ panel to discuss ‘Trump’s America’, they invite a few antifa losers on and some pathetic Bill Kristol wannabes, or perhaps even epic loser Bill Kristol himself. Anyway, they all furiously agree with each other. There’s your balance.

  148. None

    Malta should continue to refuse to take any refugee boats. Spain doesn’t take them. The Italians need to learn how to turn the boats back.

  149. I’m told that 90% of women who are in jail are there because of something stupid they did for a man.

    Coincidentally, that is why most men are in jail too. All but a few of the others did it for a woman. And then there’s a random few who did it for a beagle.

  150. zyconoclast

    isn’t merkel ex stasi?

    I suspect she is still a card carrying member.

    A bit like those Japanese soldiers still fighting WWII years after the war ended.

  151. JC

    From the continuing annals of the heartbreaking hardships experienced by western females.
    US economy is obviously doing fine, although American women a way overworked judging by the pic.

  152. zyconoclast

    …a random few who did it for a beagle

    Did it to a beagle.

  153. Snoopy

    Is anything happening in Singapore today?

  154. OneWorldGovernment

    I would ‘love’ to see Trump refuse to attend any more G& communist meetings.

  155. OneWorldGovernment

    That would be G7 communist meetings.

  156. Some History

    De Niro used the f-bomb (re: Trump) at the recent Tony Awards. It was apparently censored from the live broadcast.
    http://digg.com/video/robert-de-niro-fuck-trump

  157. JC

    D’rats in serious trouble with latest SCOTUS decision handed down this morning. Reduced opportunity to commit voter fraud.

    Supreme Court gives OK to states to clean voting rolls

  158. Baldrick

    Is anything happening in Singapore today?

    Most definitely. See here.

  159. OneWorldGovernment

    JC
    #2734381, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:14 am

    Tits bribes the ABC.

    Labor will reverse ABC funding cuts, Shorten says

    How fucking corrupt is this place.

    That the ACCC hasn’t gone after the Australian Bitter Communists merely proves the extent of communism in the APS.

  160. Snoopy

    Thanks Baldrick. Did you get that Monty?

  161. Tom

    A.F. Branco (as featured on Steve Kates’ latest Cat post).

  162. Mark A

    Tom
    #2734418, posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:08 am

    Bob Gorrell.

    Is this Bob Gorrell guy quite happy that every trading nation is screwing the US, but getting a slice of the goodies back is selfish?

    Or am I completely missing his point?

  163. Mark A

    Thanks Tom.
    You starting work later or actually starting work on time and put up the toons in your break?
    Whichever, appreciated.

  164. Some History

    De Niro’s anti-Trump rant – drops f-bomb twice – at the Tony Awards a few days ago. He received a standing ovation.

  165. Farmer Gez

    De Niro.
    “Look at me Mummy. I did a big poo”.

  166. None

    Johannes Leak in today’s Aus is a cracker. It’s on the front page under the opinion heading but I can’t link to it.

  167. 2dogs

    AUSTRALIA’s opposition Labour government in New South Wales has called for the Queen’s Birthday public holiday to be replaced by one which celebrates the country’s “60,000 years of Indigenous history”.

    This has been on the cards since they banned fireworks.

  168. None

    Varvel has it right. Thanks, Tom.

  169. Tom

    “Look at me Mummy. I did a big poo”.

    Spot on, Farmer Gez.

    There’s nothing more pathetic than an old lefty — especially when he’s trying to revive a career that ended long ago. Everyone else grew up.

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Wave that banner gloriously!

    Monday in Pictures: G-7 Photoshop Edition

    Our Doomlord is well ahead of the curve.

  171. Rae

    Is today the 12th of Never?

  172. John Constantine

    Their shorten announces he has locked in the base of labor’s campaign budget, purchasing a billion dollars worth of their abc airtime for a hundred million .

    Payment only if he wins.

    With borrowed money that only has to be paid back by a future Tory government, not him.

    Here is the genius of the shortfilth looting cartel, buy massive media support for ten cents in the dollar, incentivise them by a policy of ‘No win, No fee’ and fund it by a promissory note issued upon the ability of his enemies to make the funds good at some time in the distant future.

    Structure the whole thing by testing drafts of the announcement through focus groups until wording is produced Orwellian enough that Corruption and Theft and Outright Bribery can be made to feel like Justice to the proles.

    Their shorten announces his Department of Truth will be paid the government money they need to become even more True.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  173. John Constantine

    Have their turnbull election winning machine friends of the abc applauded shorten’s visionary bribing of the State broadcaster yet?.

  174. None

    Dunno John I’m just applauding your visionary take on Shorten’s bribery scam.

  175. None

    Why are people giving Fatboy Kim a rockstar welcome?

  176. Tom

    Monday in Pictures: G-7 Photoshop Edition

    Hilarious! Many thanks, Bruce of Newk.

  177. Farmer Gez

    Terror plot foiled in Melb.
    Threat to blow up the Vic Market by a diversity enthusiast. Muslims fear a vegan backlash.

  178. calli

    It’s a great photo, one of the best. Good to see memes from both sides of the divide.

    It has the composition of an Old Master, not sure about the Da Vinci, I’m thinking more of Caravaggio or Rembrandt. You could have some fun with the lighting on Photoshop.

  179. calli

    Why are people giving Fatboy Kim a rockstar welcome?

    One word – Trump.

  180. rickw

    How fucking corrupt is this place.

    Worse than Africa. In Africa everyone gets to participate in corruption. In Australia, only the big men are allowed to.

  181. Leigh Lowe

    None

    #2734446, posted on June 12, 2018 at 7:03 am

    Why are people giving Fatboy Kim a rockstar welcome?

    They didn’t.
    Media hype.
    “Kim is popular. Donald is not.”

  182. rickw

    apply fibreglass filler to the Model A’s mudguards

    Whatever happened to hand filing and wiping lead into the low spots?!

  183. Snoopy

    They didn’t.
    Media hype.

    Are they lying? Surely not. That would be fake news and they said they don’t do fake news.

  184. Farmer Gez

    Economics, local government style. Let the assuming begin.
    Brother in law builds a $90,000 hay shed.
    Gets his rates bill and sees it is valued at $120,000.
    Enquires as to why it is valued above the construction cost.
    Council said they assumed it had a cement floor and added that to the capital value.
    Hay sheds don’t have cement floors, the brother in law pointed out.
    At no stage did the valuers see the shed.

  185. Shy Ted

    Gerard Henderson used to look forward to “Deb Cameron moments” for MediaWatchDog so it’s sad to see her gone and we shouldn’t make light of people’ suffering but I wonder if she has donated her eyebrows to Justin Trudeau.

  186. struth

    We don’t own our land here in Australia, we rent it from our council landlords.

  187. John Constantine

    In Australia, it is an unswerving and unshakeable convention that our politicals quisling orc class do not show up at their place of employment between Melbourne cup day and Australia day.

    Wouldn’t it neuter their abc to call an election in this timeframe?.

    When all the Stalinist millionaire socialists are overseas on holidays?.

    Electronic voting robot machines doesn’t care when the horse race is, and when the chicoms are running the joint, they won’t pay a billion a year for nine months work.

  188. Herodotus

    Why are rural rates levied at improved value when all domestic rates are levied on unimproved value?

  189. Tel

    Is this Bob Gorrell guy quite happy that every trading nation is screwing the US, but getting a slice of the goodies back is selfish?

    It probably is selfish, but the POTUS is elected by the American people, for the American people.

    Trump is open about it, and at least to some extent doing the job he is supposed to do. I don’t have a problem with that, just like I don’t have a problem with Putin working for Russia’s interest, and Netanyahu standing up for Israel, and Assad determined to defend Syria. Those guys don’t pretend to be doing anything else.

  190. Shy Ted

    The brain from the dead animal is mashed with water into a soup and used to soak and soften the hide after scraping, washing and drying. To do it properly you need either 1 conservative brain, 3 leftie brains, 8 vegan brains or 47 ABC journo brains to achieve the same effect.

  191. entropy

    Herodotus
    #2734467, posted on June 12, 2018 at 7:50 am
    Why are rural rates levied at improved value when all domestic rates are levied on unimproved value?

    yes, and how would a new hay shed make a measurable difference to the value of the property? How could the bureaucrats prove it? I am sure a buyer would think “Nice feature” but that would be about it.

  192. Death Giraffe

    Whatever happened to hand filing and wiping lead into the low spots?!

    ..
    It had great gobs of lead in it already.
    Sandblasting it revealed like a history of 20th century panel beating repairs.

  193. Farmer Gez

    Councils actually charge rates on labour.
    The kit to build the shed is about $60,000, the rest is construction.

  194. calli

    I hope you’re wearing hi-viz as you cut back all that lead.

    Safety first.

  195. Herodotus

    We are living in truly bizarre times. The incredibly badly managed energy system is limping and the risk of collapse is high. Here’s more about all those installed rooftop solar panels (which I’ve resisted on principle for years despite doorknockers coming around regularly) which are so distorting the supply and demand curve that it has been called the Duck Curve. More on this at Jo Nova’s.
    We now have more of this useless infrastructure than any other country, and it is providing power which is just not there at peak times morning and evening, but lopes along during most days making it harder for the more reliable power stations to make a buck in the sunny daytime periods.

  196. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2734476, posted on June 12, 2018 at 8:03 am

    I hope you’re wearing hi-viz as you cut back all that lead.

    Safety first.

    And ear muffs.
    And safety boots.

  197. Death Giraffe

    Should I not have snorted it?

  198. Death Giraffe

    I just assumed we would all now have lead deficiencies since they cut it out of petrol.

  199. calli

    This should do the trick. Buy it before the June 30 close-off.

    Or at Harvey Norman in July. He’s sure to have one in your colour.

  200. calli

    When I think of all the asbestos I’ve inhaled over the years, from Dad’s boilersuits, home rennos and building sites, I should be dead three times over.

  201. Death Giraffe

    Too late.
    At least I only angle grinded in back in the louge.
    For some reason that day I decided not go work from my bedroom.

  202. Leigh Lowe

    Death Giraffe

    #2734479, posted on June 12, 2018 at 8:06 am

    Should I not have snorted it?

    No.
    Put the shavings in your tea.

  203. John Constantine

    Hay is an expensive business to get set up in.

    Councils get to charge you a hayshed tax, regardless if the shed is full or empty, or profitable or unprofitable.

    Councils get to charge you a hayshed tax, even if it is built as part of a droughtproofing business plan, as all the experts agree is a requirement for professional agriculture.

    Councils get to tax you for making the effort to plan ahead for bad seasons.

    Comrade Maaaaates.

  204. Shy Ted

    Free event for you lucky sods in Sydney. Free comedy, or should that be FreakComedy, every Monday, every Tuesday, every Wednesday, every Thursday and every Friday. You lucky, lucky, lucky sods.

  205. Shy Ted

    Just be cautious in the toilets!

  206. struth

    Here’s more about all those installed rooftop solar panels (which I’ve resisted on principle for years despite doorknockers coming around regularly) which are so distorting the supply and demand curve that it has been called the Duck Curve

    I also have not concerned myself with these products.
    For to need them means we are so rooted as a country, with no industry that needs cheap base load power (and that’s all we had to compete, surely not labour costs) that I figure a couple of outlawed weapons will probably be money better spent.

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    De Niro’s anti-Trump rant – drops f-bomb twice – at the Tony Awards a few days ago. He received a standing ovation.

    The standing ovation was the worst part of it. Such a deluded mass of me-too’s.
    Rich, cosseted media-class people who have absolutely no idea about the rest of America.
    They have done themselves no good at all by this display of partisan stupidity.

  208. Percy Popinjay

    LOL.

    Some further background:

    Indigenous leader Warren Mundine has dismissed Bill Shorten’s claim that too many Aboriginal children are being removed from their families as “a load of garbage”, saying the Opposition Leader “doesn’t have a friggin’ clue” what is going on in remote communities.

    At the weekend, Mr Shorten highlighted his promise to hold a summit within the first 100 days of a Labor government to tackle the issue of indigenous child protection, hitting out at “know-it-all whitefellas” who “come in ­paternalistic” in their ­approach to indigenous affairs.

    Mr Shorten made the comments during a visit to the Northern Territory community of Barunga, east of Katherine.

    Mr Mundine, a former federal ALP president, said Mr Shorten was a “living example” of the kind of “whitefella” he was criticising.

  209. struth

    When I think of all the asbestos I’ve inhaled over the years, from Dad’s boilersuits, home rennos and building sites, I should be dead three times over.

    The brake dust from doing relines on trucks in the past were full of asbestos and would cover us in a cloud.

    People still have heaps of asbestos in many old Queenslander homes.

    cough……………………………

  210. Percy Popinjay

    De Niro’s anti-Trump rant

    FFS, these luvvies are tiresome.

  211. struth

    De Niro’s anti-Trump rant – drops f-bomb twice – at the Tony Awards a few days ago. He received a standing ovation.

    Yes, when it comes to politics, washed up thespians are renown for their incisive evaluations.

  212. calli

    Install solar panels. Do your bit to bring the whole shambling mess to the crisis point and in the process claw back some ill-gotten gains.

    I agonised over the issue and decided to buy quality product with individual inverters. Very little goes into the grid courtesy of the air-con, clothes dryer, various pumps and heaters and other sundry appliances. And the power bills are half of bugger all.

  213. lotocoti

    No.
    Put the shavings in your tea.

    If you don’t want the shavings to sink straight to the bottom, fume with a little mercury first.

  214. calli

    Just watched de Niro’s rant and the reaction.

    He’s broken and unfixable. The sleek, oily audience are B-Ark material. Won’t be missed.

  215. struth

    Very little goes into the grid courtesy of the air-con, clothes dryer, various pumps and heaters and other sundry appliances. And the power bills are half of bugger all.

    This is true, but the point I make is the cost of living rises in all other areas due to the lack of cheap base load power that can support Australian industry.
    The solar panels give with one hand but what they actually take is far more expensive to us as a nation and therefore individually.
    A nation must produce to trade and survive.
    It is irrelevant in the long run, the cost of domestic power in a failed nation.
    No one in Venezuela will be concerned about it as a priority now.
    Those with solar panels are still killing their pets to eat.

  216. Boambee John

    m0nty doesn’t really seem to have his heart in blogging lately. Hardly anything on Wussia, not much on the Trump/Kim meeting.

    Is he getting the sads from Uncle George? Soros has apparently lamented that everything he has done recently has failed.

    Cheer up m0nty, things can get much worse for the cause of left fascism, and probably will.

  217. Dave in Marybrook

    Johannes Leak is a blessing. He’s got that working artist’s knack of jamming in a hell of a lot of ideas and expressions with a few brushstrokes.
    And that cartoon could easily be reworked for just about every smarmy appearance Shorten’s put in since he jetted in to Beaconsfield to peacock around on an oubliette which contained two blokes he’d never had anything to do with.

  218. struth

    Monty the Poo……the boy who cried Wussia wolf.

    The defender of free markets, against all tariffs unless imposed by his team.

    The catholic who supports the anti Christian left.
    The apparent parent who will let his kids decide which public toilets to use.
    etc etc.
    This juggling of hypocrisy is quite tiring, even for those with the added energy insanity brings.

  219. Zatara

    Yes, when it comes to politics, washed up thespians are renown for their incisive evaluations.

    Particularly ones who are high school dropouts.

  220. Leigh Lowe

    The standing ovation was the worst part of it. Such a deluded mass of me-too’s.

    Very Politburo.
    One devotee in the front row stands and applauds.
    Woe betide anyone who remains seated … or lets the applause wane before the alloted 2 minutes.
    What is tragic is that these Manhattan dickheads think they have an insight into working class America by paying $1,000 a ticket to see Bruce Springsteen’s Broadway show.

  221. Roger

    Just watched de Niro’s rant and the reaction.

    He’s broken and unfixable. The sleek, oily audience are B-Ark material. Won’t be missed.

    “Working class hero” Springsteen was getting an award for his autobiographical Broadway show.

    Tickets started at US$850.

    These people are beyond parody.

  222. Some History

    Oh, dear…

    After the awards show, De Niro traveled to Toronto, Ontario and publicly apologized to the Canadian people for “the idiotic behavior of my president.” He also extended condolences to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, after Trump criticized the Canadian leader on Twitter.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/11/robert-de-niro-rips-trump-tony-awards-greg-gutfeld-reacts-five

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lately Hairy has been increasingly concerned at Turnbull’s green-left ‘zealotry’, as he calls it, convinced that unless Turnbull goes then Australia is gone, because the political choice is between a two very bad alternatives. Thus he’s now favoring the response of ‘vote the Libs out’ and let Shorten do a quick four year destruction so a decent fight will be mounted to axe Turnbull and bring Australia back from the brink. We discussed this last night though and neither of us could see a way to make Australia go for the Shorten option in enough electorates to knock the Libs off and we couldn’t see alternative parties as doing anything more than a holding operation in the Senate, which brings its own problems.

    Then I said why don’t we try to knock Turnbull out in Wentworth (we live in Wentworth). It worked in another ‘mixed’ demographic electorate when that silly ABC bint knocked off Howard, a sitting Prime Minister. Wouldn’t happen, he said gloomily, but then we reconsidered over the next glass or two of red. Parts of this electorate are deep green and will vote for a greenie. Parts of it are old Lib and wouldn’t ever vote against Libs. But there are also a lot of very disgruntled Libs living here too and many others in business who might come on board. So why, we thought, not put up a very good Australian Conservatives candidate (Riccardo, Riccardo) on a specific platform of getting rid of Turnbull by not letting preferences flow to Libs to keep him in? Banners saying ‘Vote Australian Conservatives, Put Turnbull Last’ or even a campaign theme of ‘Unseat Turnbull’. The Wentworth Courier would come in batting for Turnbull as they always do, and Turnbull would throw money at all opposition, but that could actually be used against him by pointing out to Mr. Moneybags buying Australia. Worth a good try, Aust Cons, but it would only work to unseat Malcolm if your preferences DID NOT flow to the Liberals, and the case for making this happen would have to be strongly made i.e. don’t just make a Lib protest vote, make a vote to oust a particularly damaging Liberal from his seat. Only downside for the Aust Cons of course is that if Turnbull was ousted and the sheer lunatic policies he advocates were dumped, fewer people would be unhappy with them. By solving the Liberal’s problem (to some extent) the Aust Cons would be lessening their own ranks.

    Thought I would share our ruminations with Cats to see what they think.

    Depends on whether you think getting rid of Turnbull would solve the Libs problems in any way, given the fractured composition of the Party at present.

  224. stackja

    How Foster’s went from Melbourne’s most popular beer to a foreign ad gimmick
    Mitchell Toy, Herald Sun
    June 12, 2018 7:30am
    Subscriber only
    ANYONE who can remember a time when Foster’s beer was popular in Melbourne might also be old enough to remember when milk was delivered on a horse and cart.

    Since the late 20th Century, the answer to the question “Why don’t Melburnians drink Foster’s?” could be answered instantly dismissively with “it tastes bad”.

    Slammed by those at home as an advertising gimmick that plays to faraway cultures’ romanticised view of Australia as a place where everyone’s suntanned and eaten by sharks, the beer itself cops consistently bad reviews from almost any Australian beer drinker who has the guts to request it at the bottle-o.

    Overseas the beer has become so synonymous with Australia, partly due to slogans such as “Foster’s, Australia for beer”, that in 2015 a New York man brought a law suit against a local distributor because he said he’d been misled to think the beer was brewed in Australia.

    But the brew was also once the most popular beer in its home city, even more so than Victoria Bitter.

    Before a hundred years of merger deals and foreign promotions, Foster’s held its own in the Melbourne market, even if it was created by two yank brothers.

    But by the 1970s the once-loved brew fell out of favour locally and found refuge overseas.

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