Monday Forum: June 11, 2018

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    “Working class hero” Springsteen was getting an award for his autobiographical Broadway show.

    Tickets started at US$850.

    Not kidding.
    They will pay the $850 for the show and go to a very chic cocktail bar afterwards and discuss their connection to the working class over a $40 fair-trade espresso martini.
    Oh the ironing (which, incidentally, is outsourced to the Mexican maid for $12/hr).

  2. Some History

    After the awards show, De Niro traveled to Toronto, Ontario and publicly apologized to the Canadian people for “the idiotic behavior of my president.” He also extended condolences to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, after Trump criticized the Canadian leader on Twitter.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    HIGHER EDUCATION
    Segregation of whites at theatre sparks Melbourne University backlash

    The Australian
    8:17AM June 12, 2018
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    Richard Ferguson
    Reporter
    Melbourne
    @RichAFerguson
    Janet Albrechtsen
    Columnist
    Sydney
    @jkalbrechtsen

    The University of Melbourne faces calls to cancel a “divisive” dance performance that separates white audience members from people of colour, makes white patrons sign a declaration before entering the theatre, and then stops the dance when they take their seats.

    Where I Stand, a performance created by third-year Victorian College of the Arts student Isa­bella Mason, aims to highlight how indigenous people and people of colour have been excluded from society and history.

    The performance is the first of four scheduled in the Dance ON 2018 showcase, which is meant to celebrate 40 years of the Victorian College of the Arts dance course, run by the University of Melbourne.

    The show has been labelled divisive by some commentators and audience members, while the show’s creator admits it has confronted some ­attendees with the way it segregates them based on the colour of their skin. White audience members miss out completely on a dance routine in the theatre.

    “Realistically, there are simply two different shows for two different audiences,” said Mason, 20. “The (white) audience in the foyer are invited to go through a process of accepting/transitioning/cleansing similar to a right of passage.

    “I do not consider the ritual in the foyer to be any ‘lesser’ a part of the performance however many audience members feel as though they ‘missed out’ on the ‘real show’ in the theatre.”

    People of colour are invited to enter the show first, while white people must wait outside where four dancers, who introduce themselves by their preferred pronouns, talk to them about white privilege.

    White patrons are then asked to sign a big brown piece of paper on the wall that states: “I ­acknowledge where I stand.” If they do not, they are not allowed to enter the theatre. Once there are more white audience members in the theatre than people of colour, the show stops and the audience is left to sit and think.

    “Of the five shows thus far, we have not had equal representation on any night,” Mason said.

    The student of mixed Maori and European heritage said audience members had reacted in different ways to her show and admitted some had walked out.

    “I have had a number of people contact me to tell me their own experiences and thank me … Many have cried … Some have been angry, some have walked out,” she said.

    Institute of Public Affairs ­director Bella D’Abrera said the University of Melbourne should cancel the performance.

    “It’s reverse segregation and if people are paying for tickets, and taxpayers are funding the VCA, then they should be let in … or they should stop the performance,” she said. “I’m not surprised the university hasn’t criticised this, I’d be more surprised if they did. This is more taxpayer-funded identity politics.”

    From the Oz. “Nie Vir Die Europeens” If we are going to have apartheid in this country, let’s do the job properly, shall we?

  4. John Constantine

    Not only fosters is crap, VB now tastes so oily it must be brewed from unfiltered stormwater and industrial waste bucketed straight of the yarra.

    When we as a culture lose the ability to brew beer, what is left?.

    Comrades.

  5. The Barking Toad

    Johannes Leak is a blessing.

    Can anyone with better skills than me post it?

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I should also say that I am not in favour of taking ‘the Shorten option’ for two reasons: one is that no sane person ever should take it (and perhaps the electorate will also be of that view), and the second one is that once the downward slide is well and truly in progress, history shows that sensible policies don’t always make a comeback from Opposition, as the cries for socialism become even more desperate to solve the desperation now being felt by the ordinary people.

    But ‘the Shorten option’ in one electorate, i.e. using all votes to combine to oust Malcolm Turnbull, is maybe one worth considering. A danger of course is that the sacrifice of this one Liberal electorate may be sacrificing the one that is needed to get over the line and stop Shorten forming government. It is certainly going to be a situation where every electoral win counts.

  7. Baldrick

    The ABC will get its $83 million funding cut reversed if Labor wins the next election.
    Bill Shorten is promising to guarantee funding certainty to the national broadcaster after the last round of cuts in the federal budget.

    Your cash for their comments.

  8. Bushkid

    I wonder if Di Nero also apologised to the Canadians for the rest of the world noticing that one of Trudeau’s false eyebrows malfunctioned and started to crawl down his nose…….

  9. struth

    There’s good beer in Australia.
    Keep sampling.
    Never give up.
    They’re out there somewhere.

  10. John Constantine

    Thousand dollar a ticket events are the only opportunity maolcommo turnbull and lady mayor turnbull get to rub shoulders with the lower classes and gain insight into the Struggle.

    Otherwise it is invitation only, priceless tickets that money can’t buy for their turnbull election winning machine.

    How do you put a price on a ticket you get for free, as long as you buy a 50 billion dollar submarine first?.

    Comrades?.

  11. herodotus

    Those who recall Fosters might also have read the Barry McKenzie cartoons in the original paper form, way before they were made into an indifferent movie, and dreamt of “spearing the bearded clam”.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The other sensible option is of course for the Liberals to ditch green-left Malcom asap. Now.

  13. Entropy

    It’s a dilemma, Lizzie. Best to wait for the by elections and see what happens. If the libs pick up one or two of them it expands their options. It might give Trumble courage, it also gives the LPA room to lose Wentworth.

  14. The Barking Toad

    There’s good beer in Australia.
    Keep sampling.
    Never give up.
    They’re out there somewhere.

    Exactly struth – except for Reschs and gay beers

  15. The Barking Toad

    “spearing the bearded clam”.

    Or as the magnificent Sir Leslie Paterson says “parting the old beef curtain”.

  16. herodotus

    Lizzie, your plan may have some merit, but I agree that in the last resort, a slow slide into veneztralia is marginally preferable to the scary roller coaster ride that only has downslopes and is embraced to a greater degree these days by the green-left than ever before. We were there only a short time ago, and there appears to be no cure for the recurrence.
    Just as the GOP Elephant loves Pelosi, the ridiculous statements being made by Luke Foley and Bill Shorten would have to give any voter pause unless totally brainwashed by the daily poisoned media.

  17. Snoopy

    m0nty

    #2720533, posted on May 26, 2018 at 11:15 am

    Frantic squirrel tossing by Monty this morning. What’s up? Can it be that Monty’s gloating over the demise of the Trump / Kim summit by a tad premature?

    Hahahahahahaaaa, you think it is still happening.

    It is not happening, Snoop.

  18. Oh come on

    ABC watch:

    A big news story today features the life of some mid-50s woman who used to be an air hostess. Stop the presses!

  19. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    This is more taxpayer-funded identity politics.

    I just find it so sad that many young and no doubt talented creative choreographers and others in theatre arts feel they have to descend to these levels of stupidity to express themselves these days. They’ve been fed so much identity politics from kindergarten on that they cannot creatively break out of the mold; if they want to be new and edgy, then this is the way to do it, they think, via benighted and totally boring identity politics. And so they join the stupid herd. And so the drift away from their art forms just accelerates.

  20. Neil

    Some interesting comments on the NBN

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:z1Nxx9veOwwJ:https://www.innovationaus.com/2018/06/NBN-financially-doomed-from-the-start+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

    NBN Co was doomed to be a “financial disaster” regardless of whether it used Labor’s all-fibre model or the current multi-technology mix, respected independent telecommunications analyst firm New Street Research has told a joint parliamentary committee.
    New Street’s respected senior analyst Ian Martin said taxpayers faced a bill for around $30 billion on write downs to the value of NBN Co under the MTM model and that the cost could have been as high as $60 billion under Labor’s all-fibre model……..He said that New Street had estimated NBN Co would ultimately be worth about $20 billion, which was about the same as its debts, leaving no value in its equity. Even, under the MTM model, which has roughly doubled the speed of the rollout, Mr Martin believes cost recovery is not possible.
    “I think that ultimately in future when the government decides what to do with the NBN the taxpayer will lose something in the order of $30 billion.

  21. Roger

    Exactly struth – except for Reschs and gay beers

    The preponderance of fruity hops in Australian beers these days makes one pine for the days when every beer in Australia was bittered with Pride of Ringwood, an honest, no-nonsense hop that got the job done without drawing attention to itself.

  22. H B Bear

    Where I Stand, a performance created by third-year Victorian College of the Arts student Isa­bella Mason, aims to highlight how indigenous people and people of colour have been excluded from society and history.

    Isabella is really asking for a smallpox ridden blanket with this stunt. I wonder if Uncle Billy Peanut-Head has a spare one at his place.

  23. H B Bear

    Fruity hops sounds like a Mardi Gras after party.

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie, your plan may have some merit

    Ousting Malcolm would be a joy, would it not? Not without its dangers to the overall result of the election though when every electorate counts. And as you can see above, Herodotus, I too have a preference for a slow and more retrievable slide rather than the hideous dive we would take under current Labor.

    How much easier it would be for them to just dump him now. He’s already a huge electoral disadvantage to them with his current enforced green-left policies and especially that stupid commitment to the RET and Snowy 2, plus the blowing up of our useable power stations. I cannot see why the Liberals, who won with Tony Abbott on a landslide against any carbon tax (signal to a rejection of AGW), cannot see that the mood of the electorate is even further soured on AGW now, as their electricity bills hit home and their cars and utes are threatened.

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Or as the magnificent Sir Leslie Paterson says “parting the old beef curtain”.

    When Barry Humphreys first unleashed Sir Les Patterson on an unsuspecting world, there were those who didn’t see the joke, and protested the appointment of Sir Les as “Cultural Attache to London.” I kid you not.

  26. Baldrick

    Leftards view the possibility of a denuclearised Korean peninsula as distasteful:

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    There is much that is deeply distasteful about the meeting between @realDonaldTrump and Kim Jong-un, writes Stan Grant

  27. struth

    Where I Stand, a performance created by third-year Victorian College of the Arts student Isa­bella Mason, aims to highlight how indigenous people and people of colour have been excluded from society and history.

    Of course, with the expert knowledge of the situation gained by many years on the earth and extensive travel throughout Australia, many years spent in aboriginal communities and years of studying Australian history, she presumes to lecture the world based entirely on the lies told to her in the urban institution of marx that she has attended for a couple of years of her short life.

  28. H B Bear

    The new intellectual sTan Grant really is a joke. I liked him better in Frontline.

  29. Roger

    Fruity hops sounds like a Mardi Gras after party.

    With names like Citra, Galaxy, Pacific Jade, Nelson Sauvin & Calypso they’d fit right in.

  30. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    NBN Co was doomed to be a “financial disaster”

    Hairy, who has substantial expertise in internet telephony, told some parliamentary Liberals this in 2013, but they didn’t want to listen or weren’t senior enough to get a proper hearing. Too many other hands in funding troughs at that time, all talking up this Big Idea that had never been properly assessed and costed. Abbott should have called halt to it when he could. Same for the open-slather NDIS rather than a far more targeted program.

  31. herodotus

    There’s a story from some time back, in that old Henry 8th series with Keith Michell,which has a certain similarity to where we are, steadily hoping that “something will come up.”

    A man who the king had condemned to death begged a last indulgence from the monarch.
    “Spare my life for a year, Your Highness, and I will during that year teach your horse to talk.”
    The king was a bit intrigued and amused by the idea, and granted the request.
    When the man was ushered out of the king’s presence, a guard asked him what had he made such an extravagant promise for?
    He replied that in a year, many things might happen. I might die anyway, or the king might die, or the horse might talk!

    At this time in history we are hoping that something might happen, but there’s no clear plan what might bring about a change for the better.

  32. Snoopy

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    There is much that is deeply distasteful about the meeting between @realDonaldTrump and Kim Jong-un, writes Stan Grant

    Did sTan make a similar observation about the meeting between Xi and Kim? No? What a surprise.

  33. Rossini

    Greg Sheriden is a complete dick

  34. Listening to Jon Faine interview Greg Sheridan: Both agreeing that the political parties that support lower European immigration are ‘far-right’. Further on Faine calls Trump an ‘usurper’ referencing the political investigations of the FBI, and now Sheridan is talking about Trump as being concerned not by results or outcomes but by ‘continuing theatre’ with himself at the centre. This is what passes for ‘analysis’ in this country.

  35. Delta A

    Good post, herodotus.

  36. herodotus

    Thanks Delta. Forgot, there was one more thing in the punch line: I might die, or the King might die – the horse might die – or, the horse might talk!

  37. John Constantine

    Turfing turnbull from his seat just gives us the chicom sponsored frankenstabby move up from deputy leader.

    Imagine Bishop as an unfettered, uninhibited, U.N. convention signing machine.

    Comrade Partymaaaates.

  38. areff

    Cats who watched 4 Corners last night were treated to a Guardian reporter, not introduced as such but only as the author of the book ‘Collusion’, whose smirking countenance presented Trump’s fealty to Russia as a slam-dunk fact. Mrs Jones tossed these observations into the mix without qualification. Of course she did.

    Well here’s the author being quizzed by a real reporter, one who, you know, wants to get to the truth, not just propagate memes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ikf1uZli4g

    What makes it so strong is that the reporter, Aaron Mate, is a card-carrying member of the Left, being both a contributor to the Nation and formerly of Democracy Now!.

    Those deficiencies of character aside, he actually thinks facts matter. Unlike Mrs Jones.

    On another note, do a blind taste test: Drink Fosters and then a Crownie or vice versa. They’re indistinguishable.

  39. Tailgunner

    Hahahahahahaaaa, you think it is still happening.

    It is not happening, Snoop.

    Lol!
    Montel IS the undisputed Cat Oracle.
    Your tips for this weekends AFL matches please, Monst.
    *starts dialling Sportsbet*

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “I think that ultimately in future when the government decides what to do with the NBN the taxpayer will lose something in the order of $30 billion.

    Billions, millions, smillions. People just do not compute these numbers and realise the enormity of what is going on. I suggest we should introduce a new descriptor of currency: we start talking in how many hospitals, high schools, major road upgrades, and power stations and public housing apartments are represented by one billion, two billion, three billion etc of spending. Done in nice little graphs with cute icons for these things, it might bring home the sort of waste our governments are creating via our taxes.

    This method could also be used to indicate the savings that could be made by axing all useless green and left boondoggles. Measure them in terms of hospitals and housing. People in a rich country like Australia could be so well provided with public infrastructure of a tangible and useful sort if the money was no so carelessly spent. There would then be no need for this endless argument over who gets what when, because it would be obvious there is plenty for all; a decent society looking after the less well off and with plenty of room for the ambitious and aspirational who wanted to work and achieve in life. And then we could get on with the business of growing our wealth further and sharing our good fortune with others as they also worked to improve their own countries

    Oh, hopeless dreamer that I am.

  41. DrBeauGan

    dover_beach
    #2734576, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:01 am
    Listening to Jon Faine interview Greg Sheridan: Both agreeing that the political parties that support lower European immigration are ‘far-right’. Further on Faine calls Trump an ‘usurper’ referencing the political investigations of the FBI, and now Sheridan is talking about Trump as being concerned not by results or outcomes but by ‘continuing theatre’ with himself at the centre. This is what passes for ‘analysis’ in this country.

    +9^9

    Someone, somewhere, must think that Faine, Paul Kelly, Sheridan and sTan Grant are deep thinkers to whom we proles should pay close attention. Instead of the shallow, unthinking fatheads they are. Anyone so anxious to join the intellectual fashion as those four can be dismissed instantly.

  42. stackja

    Tim Anderson North Korea

    Sydney University’s Tim Anderson praises North Korean leader Kim …
    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/…tim-anderson…north-korean…/45882dd93cd8f98d…
    Sep 4, 2017 – A CONTROVERSIAL Sydney University lecturer who backed Syrias murderous al-Assad regime has travelled to Pyongyang and pledged …
    Why does this Aussie lecturer go to North Korea amid tensions? | SBS …
    https://www.sbs.com.au/…/korean/…/why-does-aussie-lecturer-go-north-korea-amid-te…
    Sep 8, 2017 – A controversial Sydney University lecturer Tim Anderson visited Pyongyang amid rising North Korea tension and his learning and solidarity visit …
    Academic praises Kim Jong-Un’s North Korea during visit | Chronicle
    https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/academic-praises-kim…north-korea…/3220160/
    Sep 5, 2017 – Amid increasing threats by despot Kim Jong-un, Sydney University international politics lecturer Tim Anderson organised a “learning and …

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tim Anderson North Korea

    THE Tim Anderson, of Ananda Marga (in)fame?

  44. Tip for Trump: if there is Pollonium Cacciatore on the menu, don’t order it. It’s not chicken.

  45. stackja

    ABC personalities and police?

  46. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2734587, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:14 am
    Tim Anderson North Korea

    THE Tim Anderson, of Ananda Marga (in)fame?

    Yes!

  47. Entropy

    Lizzie. Conroy model NBN fans are not subject to such concerns as cost and accountabilityor a,ternative uses of that borrowed money. They just want moar speed in their bedroom. Moar! And that mean Abbott and Turnbull have busted the glorious dream. That is it.

    And in a political context, people with crappy internet now blame the coalition. It doesn’t matter if they get NBN quicker than they would have. It doesn’t matter if it was a ruinously expensive idea that could have been done cheaper with mobile networks, it doesn’t matter that most NBN accessers are choosing the cheaper 12 MBPS or 25 MBPS plans, they want Moar, and believe that Kevni would have given Moar for free.

  48. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Turfing turnbull from his seat just gives us the chicom sponsored frankenstabby move up from deputy leader.

    If Turnbull was turfed one might expect acolytes such as Bishop and Pyne would be rather on the nose too. However I agree that might be asking too much of the Liberal Party. Hairy’s view is that Turnbull is quite a separate case of Zealotry with a capital Z, not constrained or constrainable at all, insulated by his own money, and with a completely narcissistic belief in his own ‘rightness’ that is head and shoulders over any others who might replace him. Bishop is more a test the wind sort, like Theresa May, imho. Very weak.

  49. Entropy

    The likes of Tim Anderson are choosing the next generation of university lecturer.

  50. stackja

    Entropy
    #2734594, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:22 am
    The likes of Tim Anderson are choosing the next generation of university lecturer.

    Universities today are dinosaurs.

  51. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    They just want moar speed in their bedroom. Moar! And that mean Abbott and Turnbull have busted the glorious dream. That is it.
    And in a political context, people with crappy internet now blame the coalition.

    Sadly, all true, Entropy.. when you set up expectations you have to deliver, or suffer the fallout. Hairy, who worked early at high levels on wireless technology, was at no time a supporter of the NBN, which in the context of many of his technology peers, less experienced in business matters and wanting Moar, made him persona non. Vindicated now though.

    Which is why properly costing initiatives as well as choosing the right ones is crucial.
    And we are stuck with past mistakes re this. With Snowy 2 set to add to them.

  52. C.L.

    ABC 24 live commentator laying down a stream-of-consciousness laundry list of how imminent Trump-Kim meeting could go wrong.

  53. DrBeauGan

    stackja
    #2734596, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:26 am
    Entropy
    #2734594, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:22 am
    The likes of Tim Anderson are choosing the next generation of university lecturer.

    Universities today are dinosaurs.

    ANU has just proved that. Privatise the lot.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE Tim Anderson, of Ananda Marga (in)fame?

    Yes!

    The same Tim Anderson who went to gaol for his part in a certain bombing, was pardoned, gave a series of interviews as to what illegitimate swine New South Wales prison officers were, and finished up back inside?

  55. C.L.

    “Japan was roundly defeated by the United States in World War II.”

    (Actual expert commentary at ABC 24).

    Is this bloke on meth?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newschannel/

  56. Top Ender

    The federal government thinks it’s a good idea to give individual homeowner installers of solar panels around $7k each.

    Instead of doing that if they’d built a few nuclear power stations the grid would be more stable and we’d be better off as a country.

    Idiots.

  57. stackja

    DrBeauGan
    #2734602, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:33 am
    stackja
    #2734596, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:26 am
    Entropy
    #2734594, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:22 am
    The likes of Tim Anderson are choosing the next generation of university lecturer.

    Universities today are dinosaurs.

    ANU has just proved that. Privatise the lot.

    Let the market decide. If degrees lose meaning. Why go to any university?

  58. C.L.

    ABC 24 dude steadfastly refusing to draw breath.

  59. H B Bear

    ABC 24 live commentator laying down a stream-of-consciousness laundry list of how imminent Trump-Kim meeting could go wrong.

    A hot topic around the staff co-op water-cooler for the last few days.

  60. H B Bear

    Are Zoe Daniel’s kids covering Washington for the ALPBC while she is away?

  61. Snoopy

    Any movement towards denuclearisation will be due to Kim’s statesmanship and magnanimity. Any loosening of sanctions will be due to Trump getting outfoxed by Kim. Any lack of progress on human rights will be because Trump doesn’t care about them.

  62. zyconoclast

    Tourism video pulled down amid complaints Rockhampton’s Indigenous culture ‘whitewashed’

    ‘Overpowering whiteness of everything’
    But within hours of being uploaded to social media, several people complained, including local Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire.

    “The first reaction I had was just how it whitewashes the history of the Rockhampton region and not only our proud Darumbal history, but also the history of the South Sea Islander people,” Ms McQuire said.

    “It was the overpowering whiteness of everything — they’re talking about [Rockhampton] being unique and being in the sunshine, and they’re showing coffee and the gym.”

    Ms McQuire said to her, that was just not what made Rockhampton interesting and worth visiting.

    “To me, it’s about the history of this country and the fact that we as Aboriginal people have survived,” she said.

    “We do have a diversity in our community now — we have a lot of members of the Asian community, we have a large Muslim community, we have a large African community — to me, it didn’t represent the community I grew up in.”

    White people = bad
    Asian, Muslim, African, South Sea Islander = good.

  63. stackja

    More NSW Police are needed to monitor register’s 4000 child sex offenders
    Mark Morri, The Daily Telegraph
    June 12, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    POLICE are being swamped by the surging number of [email protected] on the Child Protection Register and say at least another 100 officers are needed to monitor them effectively.

    The problem has been highlighted by the new president of the Police Association of NSW, Tony King, who says regular officers are unable to keep track of the register’s 4000 “grubs and deviants”, with hundreds added annually.

    “We need dedicated officers assigned in each command to keep track of these people who target our children and are known to be repeat offenders,” he said yesterday.

    “In some areas one officer who has other duties is given the job of keeping track of over 100 offenders on the registry. No matter how hard they try they just can’t do it.”

    Those on the register have to tell police what vehicles they own, when they change address, get tattoos and what social media accounts they have. It’s often time-consuming and specialist work but at the moment is left up to each command to try to manage.

    Civil libertarians protecting who?

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    At this time in history we are hoping that something might happen, but there’s no clear plan what might bring about a change for the better.

    Changing the energy and uncosted spending policies of the Liberals might be a start.

    Yep, Herodotus. In a year my book might be written, my kids’ problems might all be solved, and Attapuss might grow wings and finally catch those birds he witters after. Or I might fall of the twig myself.

    Or not, as the case may be.
    A nice little parable up above though to keep us afloat while hoping. 🙂

  65. Mother Lode

    writes Stan Grant

    Culture appropriating prick.

  66. stackja

    C.L.
    #2734614, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Modern technology?

  67. zyconoclast

    Teen put in spit mask by Brisbane prison guards sues Queensland Government for $750K

    The alleged mistreatment occurred in 2013 when the man, who was then 17 years old and cannot be identified for legal reasons, was held on remand in the Brisbane Correctional Centre at Wacol, reportedly for offences including break and enters, and robbery.

    The plaintiff, now 23, lodged the $750,000 damages claim on the grounds of battery, false imprisonment, misfeasance in public office, negligence and breach of statutory duty.

    The court documents allege he suffered psychological injuries, including post-traumatic stress disorder and acute stress disorder from the separate confinement and February 2013 incident.

    “The plaintiff suffered feelings that he was being treated like an animal and of terror, hurt and humiliation, outrage, insult, embarrassment and anxiety, distress and emotional harm,” the claim says.

    In a statement, a spokesperson for Queensland Corrective Services said because the matter was before the court it would not be appropriate to comment.

  68. C.L.

    Actual headline at the SMH – story by cockhead Peter Hartcher:

    When two rogues meet, what is the worth of an agreement?
    Even if Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump strike an agreement, there can be no confidence that the’ll respect it.

    Even if it’s an incredible, historical triumph, it won’t be!

  69. Neil

    Lizzie. Conroy model NBN fans are not subject to such concerns as cost and accountabilityor a,ternative uses of that borrowed money. They just want moar speed in their bedroom. Moar! And that mean Abbott and Turnbull have busted the glorious dream. That is it.

    Also in the news is Morrow in Senate estimates being asked about problems with Labors fixed wireless network for regional and rural areas. But people have forgotten that Howard had signed contracts for private enterprise to bring broadband to the bush but after winning govt Rudd/Conroy broke those contracts

    https://www.techworld.com.au/article/395910/opel_would_serving_bush_broadband_today_turnbull/

    Federal opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull has used his National Press Club address to argue the decision to scrap the Howard government’s OPEL network for an NBN has denied the bush broadband services over the past three years.
    Turnbull gave familiar arguments against the NBN saying the network is too costly, won’t result in more affordable broadband services and will stifle competition.
    “For the 1.5 million or so Australians in remote or sparsely settled areas, the coalition and Labor technology approaches are very similar – fixed wireless and satellite,” he said.

    “It is no accident the technologies to be deployed by the NBN are the same as those which would have been used by OPEL. And, had that scheme not been cancelled by Labor in 2008 would today be providing fast broadband to Australians in those areas.”

  70. C.L.

    ABC 24 commentators have to be heard to be believed.
    Hysterical, breathless negativity interspersed with “of course we all hope Trump will succeed but …”

  71. Lizzie;

    Ousting Malcolm would be a joy, would it not? Not without its dangers to the overall result of the election though when every electorate counts. And as you can see above, Herodotus, I too have a preference for a slow and more retrievable slide rather than the hideous dive we would take under current Labor.

    The idea is good, however it would get much more traction if the point was made by targeting the two major party leaders – Turnbull and Shorten. That way, scarce funds could be targeted and the point made very clear to the Parties and the Voters that the aim was to punish those in charge.
    You know – Pour encourager les autres.

  72. Myrddin Seren

    Did someone mention Theresa May ?

    Big companies will soon have to justify the gap in salary between their highest paid executives and the average worker.

    Publicly listed companies with more than 250 employees will have to publish their pay gap every year.

    Next step – legislate salaries and wages – ‘For Fairness’.

    It must be a swirling battlefield in mainstream politics – they are all marching to the Left to try and outflank each other.

    If this is where it is all going, time to stockpile food – before ‘hoarding’ is criminalised – and buy your army fatigues and Che beret, to blend in. And that will be at conservative party-meetings. Lord alone knows where the real Socialists are heading for ?

  73. zyconoclast

    Civil libertarians protecting who?

    Does anyone here expect that the full army of civil libertarians will come to their defence and rescue if your civil liberties were under attack?

    I suspect not. In reality they are enablers.

  74. thefrollickingmole

    Last bloody try!!

    Bob Ellis outed as a possible ki^dy fi^^ler…

    Whats the odds of an ABC/ALP crossover of that magnitude being covered by their 4 corners??

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12068058

  75. Myrddin Seren

    CL

    IQs have started to fall by seven points per generation in ‘pretty worrying’ trend, scientists discover

    This movie proves more prophetic as time goes by.

  76. Zatara

    Big companies will soon have to justify the gap in salary between their highest paid executives and the average worker.

    Publicly listed companies with more than 250 employees will have to publish their pay gap every year.

    Oh what a great idea. What could possibly go wrong?

    Firms plan to quit UK as City braces for more post-Brexit losses

  77. Fisky

    However IQ scores might have fallen since the turn of the millennium, according to previous studies.
    Two British studies suggested that the fall was between 2.5 and 4.3 points every ten years.

    This is because Tony Blair imported 2 million Muslims and Africans.

  78. stackja

    USA negotiated nuclear agreements with ‘wonderful’ USSR and was praised by ‘experts’.

  79. DrBeauGan

    zyconoclast
    #2734613, posted on June 12, 2018 at 10:41 am
    Tourism video pulled down amid complaints Rockhampton’s Indigenous culture ‘whitewashed’

    ‘Overpowering whiteness of everything’
    But within hours of being uploaded to social media, several people complained, including local Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire.

    “The first reaction I had was just how it whitewashes the history of the Rockhampton region and not only our proud Darumbal history, but also the history of the South Sea Islander people,” Ms McQuire said.

    “It was the overpowering whiteness of everything — they’re talking about [Rockhampton] being unique and being in the sunshine, and they’re showing coffee and the gym.”

    Ms McQuire said to her, that was just not what made Rockhampton interesting and worth visiting.

    “To me, it’s about the history of this country and the fact that we as Aboriginal people have survived,” she said.

    Why don’t the darumbal people put up their own video to attract tourists? Showcasing blokes in nappies and body-paint prancing around to the sound of a didgeridoo. Then we could see which brought in more tourists. That was, after all, the point of the video.

  80. H B Bear

    The best way to monitor child molesters is to offer them Liars pre-selection and elect them to parliament. That way you know where they are or can monitor their movements via their expense claims.

    Alternatively just get members of the Arts community to keep an eye on them.

  81. thefrollickingmole

    Heres Bob Ellis projecting.

    “It occurred to me lately that the reason why the Anzacs on the Western Front were so feared and such good fighters was they got in some practice killing Aborigines. Our story gets worse and worse. Most of the people we think of as Aboriginal activists are the grandchildren or the great-grandchildren of white r^^ists. Think what that means. It’s a horrible story. Nobody’s clean.

    “There’s probably a few honest Irish chamber maids who came here during the famine who were fine and so on and you can’t criticise the women for the things that happened to them. But, Jesus Christ, more and more lately it seems that almost every institution is not only tainted with, but populated by, child ab^se. Everybody was covering it up. You wonder about the whole thing – how you’re not supposed to be hom^phobic … And it may well be there in one in four adult males, maybe only one in five, maybe only one in six.”

  82. Lizzie;

    Billions, millions, smillions. People just do not compute these numbers and realise the enormity of what is going on.

    I know someone who would pay $60 Billion for the NBN.
    …oh, and permission to refuel/resupply some of their commercial submarines in Darwin. You know, food and stuff.
    🙂

  83. Senile Old Guy

    ABC:

    A tourism marketing video posted on social media has been deleted just hours after a central Queensland council launched it, amid complaints the video was a “whitewash” with no recognition of local Indigenous culture.

    Some of the indigenous are now serial complainers. It doesn’t matter what others say or do, it will not be enough. The complainee:

    But within hours of being uploaded to social media, several people complained, including local Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire. “The first reaction I had was just how it whitewashes the history of the Rockhampton region and not only our proud Darumbal history, but also the history of the South Sea Islander people,” Ms McQuire said. “It was the overpowering whiteness of everything — they’re talking about [Rockhampton] being unique and being in the sunshine, and they’re showing coffee and the gym.” Ms McQuire said to her, that was just not what made Rockhampton interesting and worth visiting. “To me, it’s about the history of this country and the fact that we as Aboriginal people have survived,” she said.

    Paraphrase: Me, Me, Me.

    It’s a bit odd:

    My mother is non-Indigenous and, in terms of genetics, my South Sea Islander and Darumbal father never got much of a look-in. I came out with paper-white skin, black hair and blue eyes, which eventually turned green. To me, being Aboriginal, being Darumbal, means being in connection with country. This is the essence of our identity. It was only on my other homeland of Tanna that I began to realise just what my identity meant, and how important it is to hold on to the stories of our ancestors.

    So her mother was (presumably) Caucasian and her father was from the south seas (Tanna being an island in the south seas) but she is aboriginal? Or…

    In fact, Dad wasn’t born in Vanuatu and nor were his parents. On both sides he had great-grandparents who were kidnapped from their homelands of Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands and taken to Australia and, on his mother’s side, a grandmother who was a member of the stolen generations and who was forced into a form of slavery on her own land near Shoalwater Bay, now a US military training base.

    She could easily “identify” as something other than Aboriginal.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It might give Trumble courage

    S’what I’m scared of. A terrifying thought.
    Imagine what a ‘courageous’ Trumble would inflict upon us.

    I shall have to go and sparkle up my nails just to distract myself from the thought.
    Never face the world unarmed is my motto. 🙂

  85. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I know someone who would pay $60 Billion for the NBN.

    Plus the ability to make it say what they wanted and the ability to selectively cut it off at their pleasure.

    What a great deal that would be. (You’re joking of course, thank goodness).

  86. Cl;

    However, it could also be down to people spending more time on technological devices instead of reading books.

    I find that quote a little troubling – surely it doesn’t matter what the format is, shouldn’t it be more a case of what kids are reading?
    If they’re only texting, that ain’t reading.

  87. Victoria Police say there is no specific threat to Melbourne, after revelations a terrorist plot to blow up Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market …

    How is that multicult thing working out?

  88. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Showcasing blokes in nappies and body-paint prancing around to the sound of a didgeridoo.

    Why don’t they simply do a deal with Bonds for undies? Those nappies are so stupid. Bonds undies are branded on the elastic already, so sponsorship would be no great effort. I know because Hairy now buys them to show he is a proletarian since Big Sis complained when I said he had designer ones. I tell him that real proles wear Rio brand from Coles. He says he won’t stoop that far. 🙂

    Bonds is a great Aussie brand, Chesty Bond and all. (I hope they haven’t been bought out).

  89. struth

    tourism marketing video posted on social media has been deleted just hours after a central Queensland council launched it, amid complaints the video was a “whitewash” with no recognition of local Indigenous culture.

    Capitulating to racists.
    Whaddaya expect from a “council”

  90. Extraordinary day. Cannot believe the TV screen. The leftist MSM are utterly petrified of real news and still regurgitating tripe.
    Just the image of Nork flags alongside the Stars and Stripes is inspiring.

  91. C.L.

    Victoria Police say there is no specific threat to Melbourne, after revelations a terrorist plot to blow up Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market …

    How much more specific can it get?
    Do the terrorists have to name the little stall selling porcelain dolls?

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How is that multicult thing working out?

    Good lord. I read that as multiclit.
    I am sorry. I shouldn’t mention that.

  93. Whalehunt fun

    Heres Bob Ellis projecting.

    Time the government dug up this piece of dog excrement and hung him up as a reminder to the public of the filth that is the left.

  94. DrBeauGan

    Why don’t they simply do a deal with Bonds for undies? Those nappies are so stupid. Bonds undies are branded on the elastic already, so sponsorship would be no great effort.

    Cultural appropriation at its worst, Lizzie.

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do the terrorists have to name the little stall selling porcelain dolls?

    You mean that offensive stall selling likenesses of uncovered cat meat?

  96. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cultural appropriation at its worst, Lizzie.

    You’re telling me a metre of dyed poplin tied around the nethers is any better, Dr. BG?

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The court documents allege he suffered psychological injuries, including post-traumatic stress disorder and acute stress disorder from the separate confinement and February 2013 incident.

    Has anyone asked how his victims are coping?

  98. Snoopy

    ABC: It would be a terrible outcome if Japan was dudded.

    I guessed they missed the Trump/Abe G7 vibes.

  99. Bonds is a great Aussie brand, Chesty Bond and all. (I hope they haven’t been bought out).

    Ultimately owned by American firm, Hansebrands.

  100. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is because Tony Blair imported 2 million Muslims and Africans.

    Only a White German Man would link IQ to race.
    How dare you Fuhrer Fisky!!!!

  101. Snoopy

    ABC: It’s all due to Xi, Kim and Moon. Trump’s only in it for the prospect of a Nobel Prize.

  102. DrBeauGan

    You’re telling me a metre of dyed poplin tied around the nethers is any better, Dr. BG?

    Good point. They should be made of roo skin or bark.

  103. Snoopy

    ABC bint very concerned that Trump is winging it without the experts who have been so successful over the last 60 years.

  104. struth

    Victoria Police say there is no specific threat to Melbourne, after revelations a terrorist plot to blow up Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market …

    Victoria police say there are no African gangs in Melbourne.
    Especially the ones that kick the shit out of their female officers.
    Victoria Police only see catholics as p e d os.
    They see crime they want to see, then ask for people to come forward as victims, after telling them what to complain about and ensure them it will be financially beneficial.
    Victoria police are deaf to the cry “Allan’s snackbar” or reports of Union o labor pollie crimes.

    I wouldn’t trust they would know the difference of an arab cock up their arse from licking fairy floss.

  105. C.L.

    ABC bint very concerned that Trump is winging it without the experts who have been so successful over the last 60 years.

    LOL.
    Exactly.

  106. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bonds is a great Aussie brand, Chesty Bond and all. (I hope they haven’t been bought out).
    Ultimately owned by American firm, Hansebrands.

    That’s progress, I guess.

    They’d have a hard job taking over the Aussie Bum brand.
    She says hopefully, but I recall now that the owner had a hard time making it in Oz and had to take it to the UK and like everything else clothing, it’s probably made in China anyway.
    I guess it’s all a matter of markets for an idea, marketing and the size of the buying population.

  107. stackja

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Our Great Larry Kudlow, who has been working so hard on trade and the economy, has just suffered a heart attack. He is now in Walter Reed Medical Center.
    5:35 PM – 11 Jun 2018

    Trump Says Economic Adviser Kudlow Suffered a Heart Attack
    By Alex Wayne
    June 12, 2018, 10:39 AM GMT+10
    Updated on June 12, 2018, 11:19 AM GMT+10

  108. More –

    The conversations, which in this case were between a person of interest in the Middle East and someone in the UK, were not unusual, he said.

    “These conversations go on across jihadi networks on a very, very regular basis,” he said.

    “We’re very good at monitoring such communications and intervene when we need to.”

    Mr Guenther said the force will boost its presence this weekend at the market, Federation Square and the AFL across the weekend, to reassure the community.

    He said the terror risk posed remains constant and has not changed in the past two-to-three years.

    “I’m very confident there’s no specific threat,” he said.

    That’s why we actively monitor about 200 persons of interest in this state and we look at the communications they conduct between themselves and offshore entities

    If you weren’t worried you are allowed to worry now.
    If the multicults don’t blow you up, the cops will get you for an inappropriate private conversation.
    Lose-lose.

  109. C.L.

    Gateway Pundit quotes the New York Times (25 May):

    As with so many issues involving this president, the views of his aides often have little effect on what he actually says. On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.

    On Friday, Mr. Trump said, “It could even be the 12th.”

    Later on Friday, the president reinforced that possibility, saying on Twitter that if the meeting were rescheduled, it would “likely remain” on that day, “and, if necessary, will be extended beyond that date.”

  110. Heres Bob Ellis projecting.

    Has the ABC began construction of a giant concrete sarcophagus to contain the revelations last week of a pedophile ring involving giants of the arts industrial complex? It appears so. I have seen nothing at all appear yet following Hewett’s two daughters revelations.

  111. Heres Bob Ellis projecting.

    Has the ABC began construction of a giant concrete sarcophagus to contain the revelations last week of a ped#&hile ring involving giants of the arts industrial complex? It appears so. I have seen nothing at all appear yet following Hewett’s two daughters revelations.

  112. “I’m very confident there’s no specific threat,” he said.

    Let this man stroll, unarmed, uniformed, after dark, through the back streets of the City of Hume.
    Watch the confidence drop.

  113. struth

    That’s why we actively monitor about 200 persons of interest in this state and we look at the communications they conduct between themselves and offshore entities

    Immigration equals growth of government.
    Which is what this is all about.
    Growth and control.

  114. Fisky

    Oh dear. The Lying Slapper’s former “strategist” is openly barracking for the “migrant” invasion into Europe. Never, ever trust these people, they always lie when they’re in power.

    John McTernan
    ‏@johnmcternan
    8m
    8 minutes ago

    More
    John McTernan Retweeted Owen Jones
    🌹
    This is what social democracy looks like
    John McTernan added,

    Owen Jones
    🌹
    Verified account

    @OwenJones84
    This is what humanity looks like. https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1006154955059810304

  115. Snoopy

    On Thursday, for example, a senior White House official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.

    That wasn’t what the WH staffer said. The NYT simply reported what they would have liked him to say.

  116. Top Ender

    Always demanding more money:

    Those on the register have to tell police what vehicles they own, when they change address, get tattoos and what social media accounts they have.

    How long does it take to make up a database with pull down menus, log ’em all in, and then make a coffee?

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    You’re telling me a metre of dyed poplin tied around the nethers is any better, Dr. BG?
    Good point. They should be made of roo skin or bark.

    I don’t know if aborigines had the trick of brain-soaking the skin to soften it. And bark is rather less than soft if it needs to be durable. Given these factors, going ‘native’ with the dress-ups might certainly put a bit more frisk into the jumping around, adding the extra frisson, that final hint of true authenticity.

  118. Snoopy

    The ABC is very upset that Trump didn’t greet Kim with a racist tirade.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://indigenousx.com.au/amy-mcquire-aboriginal-protest-stolenwealth/#.Wx8kWop9iUm

    I thought Amy McQuire’s name sounded familiar.

    “Australia is now up to 100,000 years of human habitation, that colonialism sought to wipe out.” F.M.S.

  120. stackja

    Truman advised on Korea? Dean Acheson didn’t seem concerned with Korea. Ike left with mess.

  121. EvilElvis

    I suggest we should introduce a new descriptor of currency: we start talking in how many hospitals, high schools, major road upgrades, and power stations and public housing apartments are represented by one billion, two billion, three billion etc of spending.

    Just give it to them straight, Lizzie. The NBN has cost every man, woman and child $1250. Let’s not break that down into actual net taxpayers….

  122. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Trump’s only in it for the prospect of a Nobel Prize.

    So they admit that’s a risk?

    Small one, given how stacked the Nobels are though.

  123. Anne

    Hahaha… I did not spot this one.

    The Deep State is really into sustainable recycling…

    …of their MK-Ultra slaves.

    Adam Lanza meet David Hogg.

    6 years later.

    What, they couldn’t spring for a little plastic surgery??? These people are stupid. 😂

  124. Dr Fred Lenin

    I am surprise that Di nitro tosser got an audience ,I thought the red has been pretenders we’re all going to trudeauland to enjoy the benefits of global socialism and escape persecution by the Trump fascist dictatorship. Except for the ones going to Mexico where their happy stuff is cheaper ,from the cartel amigos . Di Nitro is a true has been in the weinstein mould ,useless articles one and all .

  125. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2734688, posted on June 12, 2018 at 11:39 am

    Probably using COBOL.

  126. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The NBN has cost every man, woman and child $1250. Let’s not break that down into actual net taxpayers….

    Nah. Sets a bad precedent – people will just think that they are owed money by the government regardless. Recall Rudd’s $900 gift that some got two or three times. They loved that free money.

  127. struth

    stolen wealth….?

    Ya had no wealth.
    You were sitting on land that could have made you wealthy but your culture kept you in wretched poverty.

  128. struth

    She also uses the term “evil white people”.
    This inflammatory racism and incitement to hatred will be tolerated because it is against whites.

  129. stackja

    Aboriginal spending jumps to $33bn a year – The Australian
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/…affairs/indigenous/aboriginal-spending…/9bbec3847…
    Oct 26, 2017 – The commission found in its latest report that federal government indigenous affairs spending had increased by 17.5 per cent to $14.7bn since ..

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE WORLD
    Royal Family: Prince George sparks outrage over toy gun choice

    The Australian
    9:59AM June 12, 2018
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    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @RemyVarga

    Young Prince George pulled the trigger on a social media storm after he was photographed playing with a toy gun.

    The future king was with Kate Middleton and his sister Princess Charlotte at the Maserati Royal Charity Polo Trophy at Beaufort Polo Club on Sunday.

    Prince George and a friend appeared to be more interested in pretending to shoot their toy weapons.

    Social media users were incensed that the Duchess of Cambridge, who gave birth less than two months ago, allowed her son to play with the toy with one user calling her “tone deaf.” Another user wrote “No child in this day and age should look at any gun as a fun toy” with another linking the incident to police violence against black Americans in the United States.

    From the Oz. Hold everything, we’ve reached peak stupidity.

  131. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2734707, posted on June 12, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Yes!

  132. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    She also uses the term “evil white people”.

    Huh? Didn’t she say she was white skinned herself? And blue-eyed at first?

    Oh silly me. I forgot that’s not what counts; what counts is the feelz of it.
    Like I feelz like talking in vowel-less consonants just because mum was Welsh.

  133. John Constantine

    It isn’t just that their NBN has cost every individual Australian (even the refugees) 1200 odd bucks.

    It has cost everybody 1200 odd dollars, they are only getting out of it this cheap if it can be given away for nothing if the debt goes with it.

    Then the new owner gouges the debt back from the proles that have already paid for it.

    Using 5G non NBN will be a revolutionary act.

  134. struth

    When they talk about net taxpayers, are they talking about public servants who indeed pay no tax?
    Or those in the private sector on government contracts?

    The real figure of those actually contributing to government coffers would be frightening.

  135. nemkat

    Latest on Dorothy Hewett: It’s Big Merv Lilley’s fault.

    One of her son’s had a letter published in yesty’s The Australian blaming Merv, and not mentioning any other names, and today Katharine Brisbane tells how scary Merv was.

    #MeToo all the way, and never let an opportunity to bash White men go to waste.

  136. H B Bear

    Aboriginal spending jumps to $33bn a year – The Australian

    Just stop and think about how you can spend that much money annually with so little to show for it. That takes real effort.

  137. EvilElvis

    It has cost everybody 1200 odd dollars, they are only getting out of it this cheap if it can be given away for nothing if the debt goes with it.

    Yep. I only quickly calculated that figure on the 30 billion hole to. Not the other rort costs and kickbacks.

    Lizzie, this is where we need to personally explain, even to the deadbeats, that the $1250 per head could have been spent on weed, meth or a big screen telly. Third World internet speeds for world of warcraft or porn isn’t really great value, spend it yourself plebs, some may actually reach the productive parts of the economy.

  138. TE:
    From the last OT:

    Australian soldiers in New Guinea in WWII found out the hard way that wounded enemy were still very dangerous. Private Bert Treschman saw Captain Geoff Swan, leading a patrol, come across a Japanese who was wounded – and then he saw the grenade the soldier was holding. Swan told his men to stand back and fired his rifle but the enemy soldier released the grenade at the same moment, badly wounding the Captain.

    Before my Stepfather died, we were going through some old photos he’d bought back from PNG and Tobruk.
    In one of them was a picture of about twenty dead Germans in a shallow wadi (creek bed) and it looked like they had been ambushed infiltrating our lines. Something bothered me about the picture and I eventually asked Stepdad why the infiltrators weren’t wearing their webbing. I didn’t get a reply about the absence of the equipment, but it was fairly obvious what had happened.

  139. EvilElvis

    When they talk about net taxpayers, are they talking about public servants who indeed pay no tax?
    Or those in the private sector on government contracts?

    If you get paid from people’s taxes or receive more from the taxpayer than you contribute then you are not a net contributor. All the above apply, Struth. The percentage would be embarrassing.

  140. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2734719, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    And since Federation?

  141. egg_

    Aboriginal spending jumps to $33bn a year – The Australian

    Just stop and think about how you can spend that much money annually with so little to show for it. That takes real effort.

    Makes the subs deal/Oz car manufacturing look like a bargain.
    And Abbott put Abo recognition as one of his highest priorities?

  142. Confused Old Misfit

    Some of you might find this interesting and informative.

  143. Our Great Larry Kudlow, who has been working so hard on trade and the economy, has just suffered a heart attack. He is now in Walter Reed Medical Center.

    Send flowers to his Russian handlers.

  144. C.L.

    The thing that always strikes me about Robert De Niro in interviews and ‘speeches’ is just how dumb he is. Without a script, he’s semi-retarded.

  145. Baldrick

    Just stop and think about how you can spend that much money annually with so little to show for it. That takes real effort.

    And real public service know-how.

  146. C.L.

    This was the high point of Democrat global diplomacy over the past 50 years.

  147. littledozer

    Race 2 Number 1 Pakenham, well named horse

    Sire Snitzel out of broodmare…..Maneater

    Annanicolesnitz

  148. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2734652, posted on June 12, 2018 at 11:21 am

    Victoria Police say there is no specific threat to Melbourne, after revelations a terrorist plot to blow up Melbourne’s Queen Victoria Market …

    How much more specific can it get?
    Do the terrorists have to name the little stall selling porcelain dolls?

    Umm, maybe because the plot was uncovered by a “jihad hunter” group in the UK posing as Jihadi organisers.
    No doubt Fatty Ashton will propose a new law banning anyone from impersonating an Officer of ISIS.

  149. nemkat

    $30 Bil. + 670,ooo people =c.$45k per person.
    Considering the cost of the bureaucracy, and the NGOs and their hangers on who deliver the programs, that’s a surprisingly small amount.
    Of course, it has the potential to get a lot bigger.

  150. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2734739, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    This was the high point of Democrat global diplomacy over the past 50 years.

    You think?

    I reckon this one goes close.

  151. struth

    $30 Bil. + 670,ooo people =c.$45k per person.
    Considering the cost of the bureaucracy, and the NGOs and their hangers on who deliver the programs, that’s a surprisingly small amount.
    Of course, it has the potential to get a lot bigger.

    Firstly, dungkat, I’m sure you meant divided by.

    And secondly, most of those receiving money are whiter than you.
    But whether it’s right or wrong means nothing to you, I take it.
    It funds divisive cultural Marxism, but you’re happy with that?

  152. nemkat

    And secondly, most of those receiving money are whiter than you.

    No one’s receiving any money, dopey, it’s all done through Service Providers.

  153. egg_

    most of those receiving money are whiter than you.

    The “indigenous” sporting folk they regularly parade on Aunty should be DNA tested, they make the Royal family look swarthy in comparison – and totally bereft of a Cro Magnon brow and nose.

  154. EvilElvis

    $30b aboriginal industry, $30b NBN write off, $30b submarine consultancy, junkets and maintenance. Is there a pattern here?.

  155. Baldrick

    Hey dumbkat,
    $30 Bil. + 670,ooo people =c.$45k per person. 30,000,670,000.

  156. Leigh Lowe

    EvilElvis

    #2734758, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:36 pm

    $30b aboriginal industry, $30b NBN write off, $30b submarine consultancy, junkets and maintenance. Is there a pattern here?.

    Treasury needs to issue a new $30 billion note.
    It could have Chrissy Pahn and Trumble locked in an embrace on the deck of a submarine on the front and Rudd and Gillard holding a pink batt on the back.

  157. nemkat

    It funds divisive cultural Marxism, but you’re happy with that?

    More likely to fund vaccination and Truancy programs.
    You okay with that?

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Has Donald challenged Kim to an arm-wrestle yet?

  159. calli

    Trump broke Bickle, La Motta, Capone and Cady. Just by existing.

    Shame about Harry Tuttle, but war is war.

  160. egg_

    $30b aboriginal industry, $30b NBN write off, $30b submarine consultancy, junkets and maintenance. Is there a pattern here?.

    It takes 30x ABCs to create a major fvckup?

  161. John Constantine

    The penalty for breaching the left’s narrative by being a racist and uncovering a bombplot [ if you are a settler colonialist Australian] would to be locked up in their musselman muscleman penal system, so vengeance can be exacted.

    Remember, our paid informers are our strength, it is only our paid deradicalisation programs [ that are also our strength] and paid information sellers that are legally allowed to uncover bombplots, the proles can only:

    Flee.
    Cower.
    Beg.

    Their abc would run a newsgrab from outside the home of any racist settlers that acted as undercover vigilantes to uncover a bombplot, showing the letterbox with the housenumber on it.

    If we really need to uncover bombplots, we can simply import masses more Wahhabis, because another million military age males from peasantistan will surely include a few that will act as our paid informants.

    Comrades.

  162. The NBN has cost every man, woman and child $1250. Let’s not break that down into actual net taxpayers….

    It’s more like $2200; $50b/23m people.

    Then remove those who don’t pay tax and it’s closer to $6000 per person. Then include ongoing costs, maintenance, repairs plus the $60-$100 subscription per month, all for a service that we are FORCED to use.

    You present it by asking people if they would pay Telstra / Optus / TPG for a one-time $6000 connection fee, plus monthly fees of $60 all to go from 8Mbps to around 24 Mbps (which is the pre and post NBN reality for the 90% of people who live in the cities and not the 100Mbps bullshit that was peddled a decade ago).

    The answer is ALWAYS a resounding no. Then ask them if they think the NBN was a good idea. Then point out to them that is exactly what they have been FORCED to do; 6k connection, $60 per month and for that their Netflix buffers in 2 seconds instead of 3. Then ask them if they think the Government should be allowed to run anything at all or whether we should leave it to the private sector.

    Well done, you have just started to convert a big Government statist into a free-market lover. That’s if you actually have the cojones to tackle eeejuts or do what most libcons do which is clutch their pearls and complain that talking to your eeejut nephew / neighbour / co-worker is “too much effort” or “not worth it”.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Strange days indeed.
    Donald is in the White House.
    Kim Kardashian is the leading campaigner for prisoners rights and Denis Rodman is central to negotiations with the Norks.
    Whatever.
    It can’t be any weirdier than what Hillary would have delivered.

  164. Speedbox

    Earlier today I was in an elevator and a loud mouthed feminazi got in with her mate. I have no idea who she was but during the elevator ride she and her mate were discussing Trump and the Singapore meeting. (Several other people were in the lift as well).

    Feminazi – Trump is such a fool. Somebody should shoot him whilst he’s in Singapore.
    Me: Really? You think that assassinating the US President is ok?
    Feminazi – Sure. Why not?
    Me: Do you think it should be done from a distance with a gun or up close and personal with a knife?
    Feminazi: (now realising she has said too much) Well, everybody is thinking it.
    Me: So, you think that everybody else thinks that the US President should be assassinated?
    Feminazi: (embarrassed silence then…) Well, he’s crap.
    Me: And after murdering the current President, who would you like installed as the new President?
    Feminazi: (stony silence)
    A few seconds later the elevator doors open and feminazi and her mate rush out.

    To catch a Lefty in a blatant lie or (in this case) advocating extreme violence, is simply too tempting to ignore. What a rush!!

  165. Leigh Lowe

    m0nty

    #2734735, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    Our Great Larry Kudlow, who has been working so hard on trade and the economy, has just suffered a heart attack. He is now in Walter Reed Medical Center.

    Send flowers to his Russian handlers.

    Heart attack?
    Ask not for whom the bell tolls, Donut King.
    It tolls for thee.
    It tolls for thee.

  166. H B Bear

    nemsock, the Cat’s free range idiot.

  167. calli

    herodotus
    #2734573, posted on June 12, 2018 at 9:57 am

    That’s going in the remembery. Yes, we’re waiting for a talking horse, as likely as a politician unaddicted to opm.

  168. Mother Lode

    If you get paid from people’s taxes or receive more from the taxpayer than you contribute then you are not a net contributor.

    You know lefties would argue that every dollar you receive will have been taken as tax at some point – Like Obama with his ‘you didn’t build that’ line.

  169. nemkat

    Today’s The Australian has the real story about Italy’s new Government.
    Far from doing a John Howard/Tampa on the NGO people smugglers, they’ve ordered the ship to remain in a position 27 miles off Malta, but 32 miles off Italy, and are trying to guilt trip the Maltese into taking the ship.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Me: And after murdering the current President, who would you like installed as the new President?
    Feminazi: (stony silence)

    That is not a silly question.
    I will wager that a decent minority of American millennials and a yuuuuge proportion of those in the rest of the Western world think that, if the Donald is impeached, Hillary gets to sit in the big chair.

  171. struth

    No one’s receiving any money, dopey, it’s all done through Service Providers.

    Can you believe this shit?

    Too dumb to argue with.

    More likely to fund vaccination and Truancy programs.
    You okay with that?

    Necessary because they’ve been given money all their welfare ridden lives, moron.
    And that’s why those programs never work yet millions are thrown at them.
    You are obviously so removed from the outback and aboriginal communities, you beclown yourself even more than usual on this subject.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    Breaking:-
    Reports that John Howard is flying to Ottawa and will donate a section of his eyebrows to Justin Trudeau for emergency transplant.

  173. Leigh Lowe

    No one’s receiving any money, dopey, it’s all done through Service Providers.

    Can you believe this shit?

    Because a brand new kitchen and Toyota Landcruiser to replace the ones you wrecked last pension day are not currency.

  174. Mother Lode

    Just stop and think about how you can spend that much money annually with so little to show for it. That takes real effort.

    They had the resources of the whole nation under their behinds for 40,000 80,000 100,000 3.587 million years and never worked out the wheel.

    Or thermomixes.

  175. struth

    Cheers to you speedbox.
    Good onya.

  176. nemkat

    You are obviously so removed from the outback and aboriginal communities, you beclown yourself even more than usual on this subject.

    But you aren’t, dopey?
    Something tells me, call it intuition, that you’ve gobbled up your fair share of Indigenous Service Provider funds. Am I right.

  177. Mark from Melbourne

    Send flowers to his Russian handlers.

    Class, Monst. Incisive class.

  178. Zatara

    The thing that always strikes me about Robert De Niro in interviews and ‘speeches’ is just how dumb he is. Without a script, he’s semi-retarded.

    He apparently attended 4 high schools in 3 years and graduated from none.

    How much talent does it take to act like a student long enough to survive high school?

  179. Mother Lode

    Our Great Larry Kudlow, who has been working so hard on trade and the economy, has just suffered a heart attack.

    My first thought was that he must have known something about the Clintons, but if that had been the case he would have had two heart attacks in the back of his head, dismembered his own body and mailed the pieces to all points of the compass.

    Not express either – the Clintons are loaded but cheap.

  180. Death Giraffe

    Speedbox
    #2734774, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    ..
    Excellent.

  181. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Because a brand new kitchen and Toyota Landcruiser to replace the ones you wrecked last pension day are not currency

    Cite you the example on a remote outback community, that had just had a new swimming pool installed. Said community had also taken delivery of a number of brand new Landcruisers.

    An audit team had been flown in, and it became evident that one of the Landcruisers was missing. Any enquiries were met with the usual shrugged shoulders, and “Dunno boss.” As the team flew out of the community, the brand new Landcruiser was finally located…….had been driven into the equally brand new swimming pool…Over thirty billion a year of your tax dollars at work…

  182. Tom

    To catch a Lefty in a blatant lie or (in this case) advocating extreme violence, is simply too tempting to ignore. What a rush!!

    Great story, Speedbox at 12.46pm!

  183. cohenite

    Speedbox

    #2734774, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Onya mate. I admire your restraint.

  184. struth

    But you aren’t, dopey?

    No I’m not dopey, dopey.

    I’m very well versed in the goings on but have received not a cent in my life through any racist, divisive, aboriginal funding.

    Stick to what you know Dumbkat………………………

    Breath in , breath out…..now try it through your nose………………………………

  185. nemkat

    … the brand new Landcruiser was finally located…….had been driven into the equally brand new swimming pool…Over thirty billion a year of your tax dollars at work…

    You’re seeing the trees and missing the forest, Zulu.
    Whose idea was it to build a swimming pool out in the scrub, where water is scarce?
    Not the local Abos, i’ll bet.
    Who makes money out of LandCruisers.
    Dealers, obviously, but how does it get serviced a million miles out in the scrub away from the nearest dealership?
    No one’s worried about that, because the program is designed to spend money, not offer value.

  186. nemkat

    I’m very well versed in the goings on but have received not a cent in my life through any racist, divisive, aboriginal funding.
    Are you saying you’re a drunk in a pub who wouldn’t know what day it is?

  187. zyconoclast

    Toyota Corolla is a terrible car. The interior is cheap and horrible to touch and look at.

    Mazda 3 is a much better car to drive an look at.
    Zoom Zoom!

  188. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2734736, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    The thing that always strikes me about Robert De Niro in interviews and ‘speeches’ is just how dumb he is. Without a script, he’s semi-retarded.

    Since 1980, Plastic Bertrand has had more hits than Bobby.

  189. Snoopy

    m0nty

    #2734735, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    Our Great Larry Kudlow, who has been working so hard on trade and the economy, has just suffered a heart attack. He is now in Walter Reed Medical Center.

    Send flowers to his Russian handlers.

    I remember you seeking sympathy here for some kidney stone discomfort. I hope your next ones are the size of golf balls.

  190. OldOzzie

    The Barking Toad
    #2734538, posted on June 12, 2018 at 9:20 am

    Johannes Leak is a blessing.

    Can anyone with better skills than me post it?

    Ask and Ye shall receive

    Johannes Leak is a blessing.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good work Speedbox. You went straight for the jugular. Murderous bitch.
    I probably would have taken her up on the ‘everybody’s thinking it’ bit.
    Who is everybody? I would ask. I’d then say that most people I know adore Trump.
    He’s doing so well at making America great again and raising all living standards.
    Only stupid communist-inspired propaganda puts him down, I say.
    Everybody knows that, I’d conclude.

    I love to see their little faces when they realise they live in a bubble.

  192. struth

    Are you saying you’re a drunk in a pub who wouldn’t know what day it is?

    And a racist to boot.

    You’re doing well today.

  193. Leigh Lowe

    Ask and Ye shall receive

    Johannes Leak is a blessing.

    I saw it earlier in the dead-tree edition.
    I did laugh at the costume box, with the very butch looking costume sheila looking at her watch.
    And the bloke in the audience wearing a red cap?
    Surely it isn’t a MAGA cap?

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Johannes can actually draw the feelings – the pomposity and the reaction.
    The lad’s got talent. Not just a shadow of his dad either. Although obviously influenced.

  195. Makka

    Send flowers to his Russian handlers.

    You are such a pathetic xunt mUnty.

  196. Leigh Lowe

    I remember you seeking sympathy here for some kidney stone discomfort. I hope your next ones are the size of golf balls.

    He’ll have trouble locating them if they are golf balls.
    Speaking of such matters, I was watching a show on Lifestyle last night about surgery.
    One woman had a 19.5 kg tumour removed from her abdomen and another bloke had a kidney removed where the renal tumour had climbed into the main artery from the heart to the kidney. They had to cool him down to 18 degrees and stop the heart to get at it. The artery is yuuuuge. The surgeons stuck their fingers in from either end to work the tumour out.
    Freakin’ amazing.

  197. Roger

    I did laugh at the costume box, with the very butch looking costume sheila looking at her watch.

    Hi-viz gear next off the rack.

  198. Tintarella di Luna

    Speedbox
    #2734774, posted on June 12, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Well done Speedbox if I’d have been in the lift I’d have sent up a cheer – was there stunned silence from the other occupants of the lift? Good for you.

  199. struth

    Monty is such a wanker, last time he had stones, he shot the cat.

  200. OldOzzie

    stackja
    #2734701, posted on June 12, 2018 at 11:48 am

    Top Ender
    #2734688, posted on June 12, 2018 at 11:39 am

    Probably using COBOL.

    Memories

    FORTRAN, ALGOL, PL/1, PASCAL, AutoCoder, IBM 360 Assembler, Z80 Assembler, BASIC , then moving onto the modern languages C**, JAVA

    Bootstrapping using the Front Binary Switches on an IBM 360 to do an IPL (one of the guys I worked with could do it from memory – I had to read the instructions)

    Analysing Real Time Hexadecimal Dumps of 360/370 Memory

  201. Tintarella di Luna

    I saw it earlier in the dead-tree edition.
    I did laugh at the costume box, with the very butch looking costume sheila looking at her watch.
    And the bloke in the audience wearing a red cap?
    Surely it isn’t a MAGA cap?

    A thing of beauty is Johannes Leak’s cartoon, and there’s BS with his black hat, it’s a wonder he didn’t start warbling a bit of Johnny Cash — what a …..

  202. Tintarella di Luna

    To catch a Lefty in a blatant lie or (in this case) advocating extreme violence, is simply too tempting to ignore. What a rush!!

    Isn’t it amazing how effortlessly the Left turn to murder as the solution — I recall this article by Patrick Morgan back in 2010 about the Aarons family — this sentence really brought it home about the violent nature of Leftists:

    After communism collapsed in 1990, an Australian communist leader (I think it was Eric Aarons) admitted they would have killed their opponents had they got to power here. Some idealism. The CPA had the defining characteristics of a cult or sect.

  203. Speedbox

    TdL

    …..was there stunned silence from the other occupants of the lift?

    Yes. I have no way of knowing what others were thinking but nobody sprang to the defence of the feminazi. In fairness, nobody offered support to me but I like to think that was because I didn’t sound like I needed it. I had this woman’s measure and it was bloody obvious that she had been “big mouthing” and somebody had called her out on her comments.

  204. Roger

    Isn’t it amazing how effortlessly the Left turn to murder as the solution

    Cf. Dostoevsky’s The Devils (a.k. The Possessed in E.T. but in Russian it is Demons).

    Dostoevsky attributed the political nihilism of revolutionaries as the result of their loss of faith in God.

  205. Tintarella di Luna

    I had this woman’s measure and it was bloody obvious that she had been “big mouthing” and somebody had called her out on her comments.

    So pleased – there are moments like those that lift the spirit and gladden the heart.

  206. Mother Lode

    Isn’t it amazing how effortlessly the Left turn to murder as the solution

    One of the first things they do when they gain absolute power (and one of the first things they do ever after while in power).

    Only question is whether the person is to be ‘granted’ a show trial, or simply be disappeared: Whether it is necessary for their fame to be extinguished as a historical corrective and a warning, or whether they are nobodies to be disposed of in a tiled cellar with a single entrance, a single bulb, and a single drain in the floor.

  207. Bruce

    ZK2A wrote:

    “Hold everything, we’ve reached peak stupidity.”

    Sadly, we are not even close.

    What we are seeing is the first ripples of a planetary-scale psychosis that will destroy many millions of “real people”, leaving the truly sociopathic thinking that they have “won”, but in fact, congenitally and “intellectually” incapable of a single redemptive act or possessing a scintilla of actual “survival” knowledge.

    Have a close look at the “media-academic-political” class, for starters.

    Be afraid, but prepared.

  208. DrBeauGan

    We all need to be doing what you did, speedbox.

  209. Mark from Melbourne

    Bootstrapping using the Front Binary Switches on an IBM 360 to do an IPL (one of the guys I worked with could do it from memory – I had to read the instructions)

    I had one developer (we were on a PDP 11/70 at the time) who could do octal arithmetic in his head.

    Ahhh… that PDP served a medium sized insurance company, and a four to six man development team. On 256kb of core memory and 2 x 80MB hard drives. Memories…

  210. Roger

    What we are seeing is the first ripples of a planetary-scale psychosis that will destroy many millions of “real people”, leaving the truly sociopathic thinking that they have “won”, but in fact, congenitally and “intellectually” incapable of a single redemptive act or possessing a scintilla of actual “survival” knowledge.

    Someone foresaw this time:

    “A time will come when men will go mad. Upon seeing someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying “You are not like us, you are mad.”‘

    St Anthony the Great (+ AD 356)

  211. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #2734834, posted on June 12, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    I did laugh at the costume box, with the very butch looking costume sheila looking at her watch.

    Hi-viz gear next off the rack.

    Yes!
    I couldn’t figure out what that was.
    Hard hat and hi-viz vest.
    Bewdiful!

  212. Top Ender

    Speedbox for goal of the day!

  213. Mother Lode

    I see Southpossumarse is getting the grumps because they are going to change the title of his old job to make it more inclusive (or some such). Certainly to make it at least seem less threatening.

    On what reasonable basis he would find that objectionable I do not know. Instead perhaps it is that he thinks, in a democracy, the titles of officials should scare and intimidate. The entirety of the office should evacuate the bowels and frighten people into publicly denouncing each other – the only way to defend democracy.

    In his spare time he probably used to stand in front of the mirror, pulling terrifying faces, and growling “Tim the Terrible! Grrr” Southpossumarse the Cruel! Bane of white people! Grrr! Crusher of White Privelege!”

  214. Zaan

    Excellent work Speedbox.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    A thing of beauty is Johannes Leak’s cartoon, and there’s BS with his black hat, it’s a wonder he didn’t start warbling a bit of Johnny Cash

    I also had a cackle at the look on the face of the Aboriginal woman in the green top … looking at the “camera” with the “who is this dickhead?” expression.

  216. Death Giraffe

    zyconoclast
    #2734813, posted on June 12, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Toyota Corolla is a terrible car. The interior is cheap and horrible to touch and look at.

    Mazda 3 is a much better car to drive an look at.
    Zoom Zoom!

    ..
    The Toyota is good for 600 000+ Km.
    The Mazda will be done after 350 000.

  217. Tintarella di Luna

    Dostoevsky attributed the political nihilism of revolutionaries as the result of their loss of faith in God.

    Roger, my oldest has a very fine mind but leans very much to the left (he went to Sydney University and, sadly, studied philosophy from an atheistic perspective)

    There was hope for him before that, he was so heart-sick over the postmodernist English curriculum he asked me to buy for him some of the great books of Western literature as a gift after finishing the HSC – I bought for him Ovid’s Metamorphoses, some of Juvenal’s work, the complete works of Shakespeare, Victor Hugo’s Les Miserables, Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment, The Brothers Karamazov and a few others.

    When he’d finished Crime and Punishment he was absolutely blown away and asked me how could someone in the late 19th century write with such power and insight and this is a translation imagine what it would be like to have read that in the original Russian. I said he writes with such power because the human condition does not change, technology might make us think that we are smarter and better than those who went before but that’s just technology, Dostoevsky is writing about humanity.

    He was also moved to tears when reading Les Miserables he came to me and started reading but could not finish this passage because of the emotion it evoked: Therefore, the impression was terrible and profound; on the day following the execution, and on many succeeding days, the Bishop appeared to be crushed. The almost violent serenity of the funereal moment had disappeared; the phantom of social justice tormented him. He, who generally returned from all his deeds with a radiant satisfaction, seemed to be reproaching himself. At times he talked to himself, and stammered lugubrious monologues in a low voice. This is one which his sister overheard one evening and preserved: “I did not think that it was so monstrous. It is wrong to become absorbed in the divine law to such a degree as not to perceive human law. Death belongs to God alone. By what right do men touch that unknown thing?”

    Sydney University changed him, he is very left wing, ridicules my belief in the Sky Fairy but there is hope, he’s partial to some of what Jordan Peterson has to say, so I continue to hope, after all, C.S. Lewis got woke.

  218. Tintarella di Luna

    I also had a cackle at the look on the face of the Aboriginal woman in the green top … looking at the “camera” with the “who is this dickhead?” expression.

    She caught my eye too, such character and readable facial expression

  219. Roger

    he’s partial to some of what Jordan Peterson has to say, so I continue to hope, after all, C.S. Lewis got woke.

    Never give up hoping or praying for him, Tinta.

    Take heart from Monica & her wayward son, Augustine.

  220. Tom

    Breaking: Trump announces he and Kim will “sign something”. Details to be announced in the next few minutes.

  221. Roger

    Tinta, a suggestion for your son:

    ‘Atheist Delusions’ by David Bentley Hart (Yale University press, 2009).

    Hart has a very fine mind which your son may recognise and respond to.

    Available from Book Depository, I imagine, but the Koorong bookshops here sell it for c. $30.

  222. Breaking: Trump announces he and Kim will “sign something”. Details to be announced in the next few minutes.

    I hope Trump brought his lucky crayons.

  223. Tintarella di Luna

    Take heart from Monica & her wayward son, Augustine.

    Oh I do Roger I do. I often think of Augustine’s wayward prayer and smile. My son is not like the wayward and venal Augustine, he is in fact quite conservative in many ways, a happily married man so his Leftism does surprise me but does provide for some rather very Italian and animated discussions. His wife used to get a little upset at our passionate debates but has come to accept that’s just the Italian in us.

  224. Rae

    Monty … last time he had stones

    Of the kidney variety. He was talking about it on here. And lots of other Cats with the same problem were talking about how bad it was for them and sympathizing with him. Serena the Barperson, I thought, was one of those.

  225. Tintarella di Luna

    ‘Atheist Delusions’ by David Bentley Hart (Yale University press, 2009).

    Thanks Roger, I will get that for him as a late birthday gift. Thanks

  226. Rae

    Breaking: Trump announces he and Kim will “sign something”. Details to be announced in the next few minutes.

    They’re gonna go dutch on the lunch tab?

  227. Snoopy

    Hahahahahahaaaa, you think it is still happening.

    It is not happening, Snoop.

  228. 132andBush

    I did laugh at the costume box, with the very butch looking costume sheila looking at her watch.

    Hi-viz gear next off the rack.

    That’s Ged Kearney

  229. H B Bear

    mUnty now raking in real time.

  230. Snoopy

    Steve Herman

    @W7VOA
    Here’s the precise @POTUS quote uttered to the camera of #Singapore TV (US media not allowed in for start of the working lunch): “Getting a good picture everybody? So we look nice and handsome and thin? Perfect.”

    2:13 PM – Jun 12, 2018 · Singapore

  231. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Watching Trump on Fox Newsfeed, a couple of times Trump’s put his guiding hand on Kim’s shoulder or back as they’ve been walking along. I got the sense of an agreement and a Big Man shepherding the one who is coming to the party. Trump strides; you get the feeling not to mess with him just by his posture and stance.

  232. Snoopy

    Meridith McGraw

    @meridithmcgraw
    The White House released the menu for today’s working luncheon — prawns, avocado salad, beef short ribs, sweet and sour pork, and Häagen Dazs ice cream for dessert🍨:

    1:15 PM – Jun 12, 2018 · Washington, DC

    No Ben and Jerry’s ice cream.

    Sad.

  233. Baldrick

    Trump announces he and Kim will “sign something”

    Fair deal:

    AssocaitedPress @AssocatiedPress
    Breaking: Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump agree to full denuclearization in exchange for the State of California, which will become a province of North Korea effective July 1.

  234. Baldrick

    Won’t anyone spare a thought for Killary and the Magic Negro?
    No, me neither.

  235. Leigh Lowe

    “Getting a good picture everybody? So we look nice and handsome and thin? Perfect.”

    Bwa, ha, ha, ha.
    Masterful.
    I can see the WaPo headline now …
    “Will This be the First War Started by Fat-shaming?”

  236. OldOzzie

    Mark from Melbourne
    #2734855, posted on June 12, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    I had one developer (we were on a PDP 11/70 at the time) who could do octal arithmetic in his head.

    Ahhh… that PDP served a medium sized insurance company, and a four to six man development team. On 256kb of core memory and 2 x 80MB hard drives. Memories…

    A good machine the DEC PDP 11/70

    A good Reference for Memories – 356 Pages but an interesting read

    A Vision Splendid
    Graeme Philipson
    The History of Australian Computing

    My first introduction to Computing was SILLIAC School of Physics Sydney University under Harry M Messel (“If you want to stay awake in my Lectures take No-Doz”)

  237. Leigh Lowe

    I do hope Trump put ketchup on his beef with blackbean sauce.

  238. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I do hope Trump put ketchup on his beef with blackbean sauce.

    Or more sugar on that Sweet and Sour.

    If it is what it seems, we really are watching history being made.

  239. Snoopy

    Leigh Lowe
    #2734912, posted on June 12, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    I do hope Trump put ketchup on his beef…….

    Trump’s beef short ribs confit had “red wine sauce *cough* on the side”.

  240. Leigh Lowe

    @W7VOA
    Here’s the precise @POTUS quote uttered to the camera of #Singapore TV (US media not allowed in for start of the working lunch): “Getting a good picture everybody? So we look nice and handsome and thin? Perfect.”

    That’s gotta hurt.
    I guess when you are rude pricks at pressers for 18 months it is understandable that Trump didn’t want you insulting his guest.

  241. Thanks Roger, I will get that for him as a late birthday gift. Thanks

    Tinta, I think Ed Feser’s The Last Superstition would be even better. You could use this post as an aperitif. Godspeed.

  242. struth

    Of the kidney variety. He was talking about it on here. And lots of other Cats with the same problem were talking about how bad it was for them and sympathizing with him. Serena the Barperson, I thought, was one of those.

    And I hoped they learned, looking at his attitude today, regarding heart attack victims.
    He’s slime.
    Always was.

    So shooting the cat still stands, and is deserved.

  243. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Well, the signing is not just a simple thing. It is being set up with rosettes and a large table with pens and all the trimmings apparently to take place in front of the press. I’m busy so can’t blog this further, but it looks promising and obviously well prepared beforehand.

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