Monday Forum: June 11, 2018

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  1. nemkat

    Elsewhere, Anthony Bourdain was found naked, hanging from the transom with a bathrobe cord around his neck.
    IOW, auto erotic asphyxiation gone wrong.
    For some reason, de plebs aren’t sposed to notice that.
    link
    Includes list of celebrities who died of AEA.

  2. pete m

    Summit agreement released.

    Trump – I promise not to twitter you are a “rocket man” anymore.

    Kim – I promise to join Jenny Craig.

    Joint – we will not nuke each other for at least 30 days, pending compliance with the above.

  3. struth

    Please, numkat, that sort of thing may interest you but this is not the blog for your deviances to be displayed.

  4. John Constantine

    Which one of the cat trolls was it that revealed he gloated whenever he fantasised about Trump’s young son kneeling in grief at his assassinated father’s graveside?.

  5. Jo Smyth

    Kim is a 3rd generation Dictator. He followed his grandfather and father who had put in place a doctrine which Kim was expected to follow and to date he has been true to their legacy. Maybe, just maybe, he’s had enough. With all the technology that’s around he can see how different his life could be. Maybe he wants to come out of the cave and see the sunlight.

  6. struth

    Kim is a 3rd generation Dictator. He followed his grandfather and father who had put in place a doctrine which Kim was expected to follow and to date he has been true to their legacy. Maybe, just maybe, he’s had enough. With all the technology that’s around he can see how different his life could be. Maybe he wants to come out of the cave and see the sunlight.

    The third generation of a family business usually stuffs it.

  7. nemkat

    Elsewhere, Anthony Bourdain was found naked, hanging from the transom with a bathrobe cord around his neck.
    IOW, auto erotic asphyxiation gone wrong.
    For some reason, de plebs aren’t sposed to notice that.
    link
    Includes list of celebrities who died of AEA.

    Please, numkat, that sort of thing may interest you but this is not the blog for your deviances to be displayed.

    Why did you click the link, then?

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All signed, Kim made a short speech saying things are going to change in a major way and thanking President Trump. Contents yet to be digested by the press. Different situation now in the Korean peninsula now because ‘we are going to take care of a very big and dangerous problem for the world… it worked out far better for us than we could ever have predicted’. Great friendship expressed by Trump.

  9. classical_hero

    Where’s Carpe? He needs to look at the Q&A thread and give away the chaps.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Very important and comprehensive ‘document’. Kim invited to the White House. “special bond’ with Kim developed says Trump.

  11. Makka

    Kim is a 3rd generation Dictator. He followed his grandfather and father who had put in place a doctrine which Kim was expected to follow and to date he has been true to their legacy. Maybe, just maybe, he’s had enough. With all the technology that’s around he can see how different his life could be. Maybe he wants to come out of the cave and see the sunlight.

    I was reading some commentary about Kim’s #2 on his visit to NY when asked about why now for NK to denuke and open up? Apparently he replied that previous Administrations wouldn’t keep their word and they got tired of being screwed over countless times. This time it’s different. We’ll see of course but there is a ring of truth about it. Meanwhile, there will be plenty for NK to answer for with the oppression of it’s own people.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Obviously much of this was cooked up and ready to go.
    Trump called this summit for effect and to eyeball Kim into seriousness about it.

    They were serious. Kim was someone who had his lines to say and said them.

  13. pete m

    WTF did Obama and the previous presidents ever do to sort out NK?

    If this goes ahead and the peninsula is sorted, then all eyes will fix on China’s moves out into China Sea and on Taiwan, something they do not want. There will never be peace while China has designs over international areas and resources and acts like a bully.

    The other biggie is of course the middle east.

    Some good moves there so far – it will be interesting to see what Trump achieves on that front too.

    So far so very good on intl front.

  14. struth

    Why did you click the link, then?

    You wish, ya sick son of suction.

  15. Leigh Lowe

    OK.
    This week we have had the “never, ever, ever gonna happen” meeting with the Norks.
    Bill Maher (net worth $100 meg) says the US needs a recession to get rid of Trump.
    Coffee salesman Bobby Da Nero says “fuckety fuck fucking Trump” at the school presentation night then flies to Canadia to apologise to a fag with false eyebrows.
    2020 is in the bag.

  16. Baldrick

    The in-depth analysis from TheirABC’s John Barron …

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    “Success will ultimately be whatever Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un say it is because they went in to this summit with a very broad objective”: @JohnBarronUSA on the #TrumpKimSummit

    Yes, that’s the same John Barron who’s never been right about Fatty Trump on anything.

  17. Leigh Lowe

    Kim is a 3rd generation Dictator. He followed his grandfather and father who had put in place a doctrine which Kim was expected to follow and to date he has been true to their legacy. Maybe, just maybe, he’s had enough. With all the technology that’s around he can see how different his life could be. Maybe he wants to come out of the cave and see the sunlight.

    Did someone post a quote from Churchill here recently along the lines that “for a dictator the choice may well be between the throne or the grave“?
    Kimmy may be acutely aware of that and looking for a third option.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Did someone post a quote from Churchill here recently along the lines that “for a dictator the choice may well be between the throne or the grave“?

    Wasn’t it Churchill who said “Jaw, jaw,is better then war, war?”

  19. Leigh Lowe

    ABC News @abcnews
    “Success will ultimately be whatever Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un say it is because they went in to this summit with a very broad objective”: @JohnBarronUSA on the #TrumpKimSummit

    Interesting that they never use terminology like that when the Magic Negro used to go to some summit or other and issue a solemn communique to “make all efforts to save da planet” or somesuch.
    This is a very lumpy meal for the left meeja and they are having trouble digesting it.

  20. JC

    It’s not entirely beyond the possibility.

    TRUMP’S TRADE WARS GIVE LARRY KUDLOW A HEART ATTACK

    I’m not even being facetious with that title. Larry ‘of America’ Kudlow is a life long free trader — a globalist through and through. But he’s also a republican and loyal to the President. Trump chose Larry to be his chief economic advisor and I have all the reasons to believe that his appointment, in fact, is the reason why he’s in Walter Reed hospital now after suffering from a heart attack.

  21. struth

    ABC News @abcnews
    “Success will ultimately be whatever Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un say it is because they went in to this summit with a very broad objective”: @JohnBarronUSA on the #TrumpKimSummit

    Interpretation from leftyspeak.

    Oh, I’m tired…..leave me alone, I got nothin’

  22. Leigh Lowe

    There were only two outcomes for Trump according to the meeja experts …
    (1) He would achieve nothing; or
    (2) He would be outfoxed by Kim Jong Haircut and would over-reach and overcommit.

  23. H B Bear

    John Barron is the ALPBC’s funniest comedian.

  24. Leigh Lowe

    H B Bear

    #2734983, posted on June 12, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    John Barron is the ALPBC’s funniest comedian.

    Hopefully he hasn’t pressed his ardour upon a young man in a hotel room as well.

  25. struth

    I’m not even being facetious with that title. Larry ‘of America’ Kudlow is a life long free trader — a globalist through and through. But he’s also a republican and loyal to the President.

    This twerp thinks being a free trader means being a globalist…………………………………

  26. calli

    Just got back from the gym.

    Has Peace In Our Time started yet?

  27. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2734986, posted on June 12, 2018 at 4:04 pm

    Just got back from the gym.

    Has Peace In Our Time started yet?

    No.
    In fact the Doomsday clock guys are putting their white coats on.
    This looks bad.

  28. Roger

    I never really warmed to Anthony Bourdain but after reading this I might have to give him another look:

    “…after hanging out with the working class in West Virginia… he says, to those who look down on those Trump-supporting Appalachians: “Screw you.”’

  29. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta, I think Ed Feser’s The Last Superstition would be even better. You could use this post as an aperitif. Godspeed.

    Thank you dover_beach, my boy has a voracious appetite for books that challenge so he’ll have a couple of good things to get his teeth into.

  30. Mother Lode

    The third generation of a family business usually stuffs it.

    Send that through to the ABC – they will be glad of another reason to explain that any success was not due to Trump’s wiliness but missteps by Pyongyang Fats.

  31. egg_

    John Barron is the ALPBC’s funniest comedian.

    Busy polishing Trump’s big red button?

  32. Mother Lode:

    One of the first things they do when they gain absolute power (and one of the first things they do ever after while in power).

    That’d be my signature comment about “The Purge”?
    I don’t say it in good humour, you know…

  33. Baldrick

    Has Peace In Our Time started yet?

    No calli, the ABC is having kittens. They weren’t privy to the deal so everything’s off the table.

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un have signed a “very comprehensive” and “very important” document. But for now, its specific contents remain unknown.

  34. thefrollickingmole

    This is the best timeline.

    Denis Rodman in a MAGA hat on CNN praising trump and dissing the lightbringer for dismissing an earlier attempt at peace.

    In tears.

    I think weve hit peak Trump, its all downhill from here.
    Its Stimpys world, we just live in it.

    Dennis Rodman cries as he hails Trump-Kim summit: ‘I’m so happy’
    On the sidelines of the historic meeting, the former basketballer and friend of Kim Jong-un says he has been vindicated

    Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump had barely exchanged pleasantries outside the Capella hotel when their mutual friend Dennis Rodman appeared on TV to provide a characteristically bizarre sideshow to the main event in Singapore.

    In a rambling interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo from Singapore, a highly emotional Rodman claimed credit for predicting that today’s summit – which seemed unlikely just months ago – would happen.

    Wearing a Make America Great Again baseball cap and a T-shirt bearing the name of his sponsor Potcoin, Rodman sobbed as he described his feelings about the summit and recalled the abuse he had received over his controversial visits to Pyongyang to meet Kim. “I said to everybody, the door will open,” he said.

    “It’s amazing, it’s amazing, it’s amazing. When I said those things, when I went back home, I got so many death threats … and I believed in North Korea, and I couldn’t even go home, I couldn’t even go home, I had to hide out for 30 days, I couldn’t even go home.

    “But I kept my head high, brother, I knew things were going to change … I knew it, I was the only one. I never had no one to hear me, I had no one to see me. But I took all those bullets, I took all at that … but I’m still standing. Today is a great day for everybody, Singapore, Tokyo, China, everybody … it’s a great day. I’m here to see it. I’m so happy.”

    The former NBA star is one of the few westerners to have met Kim, with whom he struck up an unlikely friendship over their shared love of basketball.

    Describing his meetings with Kim, Rodman said: “He’s more like a big kid, even though he’s small. He wants to come to America. He wants to enjoy his life.” Rodman said he had tried to pass on what he heard from Kim to Barack Obama but was “brushed off”.

    Rodman said he had earned Kim’s trust after making good on a promise to take a team of ex-NBA players to North Korea in 2014.

    “I gave him something for his birthday … I said: I’m going to bring a professional basketball team to you,” Rodman said. “He said: Can you do that. I said: Yes I can. Even though I couldn’t do it, I knew if I fail now there is going to be a problem. But I got Potcoin here helped me out, my sponsor, fetch those guys and it happened. And Kim Jong-un came to me and said: ‘Dennis – you know what this is the first time someone has ever kept their word to me and my country’.”

    Rodman said he believed Trump “will understand that the people of North Korea have a heart, have a soul, charisma and love each other”.

    “I think that country is normally hearing people who are always lying, deceitful and not trustworthy. I think that if President Trump goes in there with a great heart, with his heart on the table and let Kim Jong-un see him really emotional … it ain’t got to be about war, it ain’t got to be about hatred or what happened in the past.

    “I’ve told people about Kim Jong-un. He all about the 21st Century. He’s trying to progress his country.”

    Rodman arrived at Changi airport late on Monday amid speculation that he might even join the talks between the two leaders. The White House has since said that he will play no role in the discussions.

    The former Celebrity Apprentice contestant, who has visited North Korea several times and met Kim three times since 2013, claimed the president had thanked him for his efforts to being the two men together, saying a White House secretary had called to say that Trump was “proud” of him.

    That is in direct contradiction to a 2014 tweet by Trump, who said Rodman was “delusional” for wanting him to visit North Korea.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There is a North Korea thread that’s been active for a while, for those interested in catching up.

  36. Atoms for Peace

    And the joint winner of the 2018 Nobel Peace prize is ??????

    Jeez, that would be fun to watch.

  37. stackja

    ABC misrepresenting events again. I am shocked!

  38. Baldrick

    … and it gets worse

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Could a lack of transparency in the private meeting between @realDonaldTrump and Kim Jong-un have implications for future agreements?

    Leftards are so desperate to see this deal fail.

  39. Speedbox

    Well, I’m delighted about the Trump/Kim meeting. We are witnessing a tremendously historic event.

    And if the meeting develops a working relationship between NK and the USA (+ others) that results in a peace agreement, commences a process to eliminate NK nuclear weapons, allows more family reunions with SK, reliable electricity supply, modern healthcare etc, then all the better.

    But the best bit is that today’s event sees Lefty heads exploding all over the world. Try as they might, the sight of Trump and Kim shaking hands and speaking nicely to each other is infuriating. Coupled with the most recent US employment data (220,000 new jobs/lowest unemployment rate since 1969) this must be a living nightmare for the Left.

  40. Leigh Lowe

    Roger

    #2734990, posted on June 12, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    I never really warmed to Anthony Bourdain but after reading this I might have to give him another look:

    And it references exactly the same hypocrisy we were talking about this morning:-

    This is so perfect. A New York-based movie star (De Niro) denounces Donald Trump in his introduction for a blue-collar troubadour (Springsteen) whose stories about the Working Man™ are being performed for Manhattan audiences who pay close to a thousand dollars a ticket to hear them.

    The disconnect is so massive that it’s comic.

  41. Makka

    CNBC Now

    @CNBCnow
    BREAKING: Trump says he and Kim Jong Un are signing a “pretty comprehensive” document & says it begins process of denuclearization https://cnb.cx/2y42843

    8:50 AM – Jun 12, 2018

  42. Boambee John

    Roger
    #2734990, posted on June 12, 2018 at 4:06 pm
    I never really warmed to Anthony Bourdain but after reading this I might have to give him another look:

    “…after hanging out with the working class in West Virginia… he says, to those who look down on those Trump-supporting Appalachians: “Screw you.”’

    Another case of Arkancide? The queen must not be mocked.

  43. OldOzzie

    Queensland Budget 2018: Jackie Trad leaves a burden for future Queenslanders

    It’s official. Queensland has given up on paying back its debt – either in the short, medium or long-term.

    Mirroring the same decision taken by federal Treasurer Scott Morrison and escalating Commonwealth debt, Queensland Treasurer Jackie Trad has banked on the average Queenslander not giving a stuff about increasing debt as long as the roads, schools and hospitals are being built for a fast-growing population.

    But waving the white flag will leave a debt bomb that will come back to bite future governments and residents – a fact willingly offered by a taxi driver en route to Parliament House on Tuesday morning.

    Make no mistake, this is a big spending, big taxing and a big borrowing budget.

    The four new taxes dropped in a last-minute frenzy before the November election – plus the re-introduced waste levy – will raise $1.8 billion over the next four years.

    In a blatant political decision, Trad and Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk have targeted foreign property owners, wealthy car owners and gaming companies who they figure will never vote for Labor anyway.

    If the five – that’s right, five – new taxes being introduced in the 2018-19 budget isn’t enough to set the alarm bells ringing, the state’s corporate credit card has also been hit up, with an extra $13 billion to be borrowing over the next four years, taking total debt to $83 billion by 2021-22.

    The so-called pyschological $80 billion debt mark which had loomed ominously over successive Labor and Liberal National Party governments has well and truly by smashed through by Trad.

    There has even been a $2.3 billion increase in total debt forecast in the mid-year budget update in December – just after November’s election victory.

    All the talk during the election campaign by former treasurer Curtis Pitt and Palaszczuk about a comprehensive “debt reduction strategy” has been shown up for what it really was – complete baloney.

    Yes, borrowing in the general government sector has been brought under control – thanks to Under-Treasurer Jim Murphy’s experienced hand – with a debt to revenue ratio of 54 per cent, down from a high of 91 per cent in 2012-13.

    But that’s because all the debt has been put onto the government-owned corporations who also have to deliver $600 million a year in dividends into state coffers.

    Trad points to the fact the state-owned companies are run like commercial entities and can service the debt, but she glosses over the fact the total debt and interest payments is still left hanging over for Queenslanders and future generations to pay back.

    Even Treasury officials privately note the debt situation in Queensland remains “challenging”.

    Trad’s mantra in her first budget is “borrow to build”, but senior Treasury officials believe it’s more like “borrow to invest” hoping a big infrastructure spend will encourage the private sector to follow suit.

    Business investment, which fell in 2016-17, has bounced back this financial year, with Treasury officials saying they noted a turnaround as soon as the Palaszczuk government announced they would go it alone on funding the $5.4 billion Cross River Rail project – the state’s number one infrastructure project – in Brisbane.

    The ambitious Trad was more than happy to roll the hapless Pitt as treasurer in the December reshuffle – reinforcing her and the Left faction’s hold on this Labor government. The PR spin was it was about ensuring the state’s economic message cut through.

    But the only message to come through from Trad’s first budget – one which pumps up debt and increases taxes – mirrors the former Nationals premier Joh Bjelke-Petersen catch phrase – “Don’t you worry about that”.

    But Queenslanders should be worried.

  44. Armadillo

    I said last night this was always about trade for Trump. He understands the persuasion of prosperity. It’s ultimately what got him elected.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    And this …

    I guess for a long time I’ve been going to foreign locations like Iran, Liberia, Vietnam, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia where the culture and politics are very, very different than my own, and yet I try to go with an open mind and show some respect. And I like the idea of going to the heart of “Trump, God, and guns” country and looking at it in exactly the same way — with an open mind, as I’ve done elsewhere. It seemed only fair and only right.

    How many inhabitants of Manhattan are so, so very careful to travel the world “being respectful” – removing shoes at the door of a mosque, look with head-tilting rapture at some scratchings in a cave in Kakadu, or sit in thrall through a cultural lecture from some native of Asia or South America giving a cultural lecture? However, when it comes to respect for their compatriots in fly-over country … not so much.

  46. Armadillo

    The left and right both understand prosperity, they just look at from different perspectives. The right believe you should keep what you earn. The left believes you should take what you can get.

  47. OldOzzie

    The Australian = STATE POLITICS
    Queensland budget: public sector wage bill hits almost $1 billion

    Queenslanders will spend almost $1 billion more on public sector wages next year amid record spending on health and education, as windfall coal royalties deliver both new infrastructure spending and modest surpluses.

    Delivering a “no surprises” first budget as treasurer, Jackie Trad’s budget speech omitted any mention of the state’s soaring debt, which is expected to exceed $83bn in 2021-22, rising from 54 per cent of state revenue to 68 per cent.

    Strong demand for Queensland coal spurred an impressive 3.7 per cent boost to revenue this year — compared with 6.3 per cent growth in spending and 7.4 per cent growth in state employee expenses.

    Revenues are expected to collapse by 0.9 per cent next year as the government rolls out the biggest public works scheme since the Bligh government rebuilt state infrastructure following mass flooding in 2011.

    “This Queensland government must do the heavy lifting in infrastructure investment because this federal government simply will not,” the Deputy Premier told parliament, committing to fund such schemes as the Cairns Convention Centre and Brisbane’s Cross-River Rail.

    Taxpayers will spend $23.8bn on public sector salaries next year, up $969 million from this year.

    “Since March 2015, this government has … employed more than 4800 extra nurses, 1600 doctors and 370 ambulance officers,” Ms Trad said, pledging to hire a further 400 police, 400 nurse navigators, 100 firefighters, 100 midwives and 85 counter-terrorism officers.

    Ms Trad announced a coal-fired surplus of $1.51bn for the year ending this month, followed by modest surpluses of $148m next year, $160m in 2019-20, $110m in 2020-21 and $690m in $2021-22.

    Asked whether Queensland would ever regain its AAA credit rating, Ms Trad said she expected ratings agencies would not be concerned about borrowings to fund infrastructure.

    She also claimed the government was exercising “discipline” in its recurrent spending.

    The Treasurer’s figures were based on optimistic assumptions about the economy’s future, with accelerating wages and falling unemployment. Household consumption and business investment were expected to remain strong.

    The Palaszczuk government expects to raise $1.32bn over four years from a new $70/t charge on dumping garbage in the state — about 30 per cent of which will be used to fund other government services, opening the government to allegations of price gouging.

    Health spending is projected to rise by four-times the rate of population growth to $17.3bn in this year alone, plus $985m in capital investment in health facilities.

    Spending on education will also rise to $14bn this year, with a pledge to employ an additional 3700 teachers over four years on top of the 4700 extra teachers and teachers’ aides hired since March 2015.

    Much of the government’s infrastructure spending was announced in advance of the budget.

    About two-thirds of total infrastructure spending next year will be allocated outside Brisbane including $534.3m to continue the Toowoomba Second Range Crossing project, $250m for Townsville’s new rugby league stadium and $176m towards the Rookwood Weir scheme.

    In southeast Queensland, big ticket items included $1.779m to upgrade the M1 and Bruce Highway and $160.8m towards duplicating the Nambour Rail line.

    Ms Trad announced $330m over five years to conserve the Great Barrier Reef, and a $50m capital grant to support the development of reliable solar power.

    A total $1.3bn was allocated for child and family services, along with $1.5bn for the National Disability Insurance Scheme and $500 for the National Redress Scheme for survivors of child sexual abuse in institutional settings.

    Industry policy announcements included $155m on wage subsidies for bosses to hire unemployed workers, $73m to provide grants for innovation and research, and $26m to extend payroll tax relief for businesses that employ apprentices and trainees.

    The budget provided $239m to improve indigenous housing, $12m to improve drinking water in the Torres Strait, and $5m to help remove waste metal, such as abandoned cars, from remote communities.

    The budget provides $5.6bn in concessions for disadvantaged households to help with their electricity, water, transport, education and housing bills.

  48. Armadillo

    Up until now, the Norks have been taking what they can get by blackmail. Trump offers a safer alternative. Trade.

  49. egg_

    I said last night this was always about trade for Trump.

    Hence, Russia were trying to make inroads re direct trade with the NorKs.

  50. H B Bear

    Roger
    I never really warmed to Anthony Bourdain but after reading this I might have to give him another look:
    “…after hanging out with the working class in West Virginia… he says, to those who look down on those Trump-supporting Appalachians: “Screw you.”’

    I’m currently reading JD Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy. The USA is a huge, varied and complex place.

    Much of Kitchen Confidential describes his time working alongside Hondurans, Mexicans and other immigrant line chefs. Bourdain may have been a card carrying Lefty but he also got his hands dirty. Can’t say that about most of them.

  51. Armadillo

    Blackmail doesn’t work any longer when you have a Western leader with a spine who simply say NO. Try that shit on me, and I’m going to fuck you over big time. That’s the difference. Obama and previous administrations were being bullied by the class midget with a lisp.

  52. H B Bear

    It would be interesting to ask Muammar Gaddafi whether you could trust deals done with the Magic Negro and Killary.

  53. zyconoclast

    The Toyota is good for 600 000+ Km.
    The Mazda will be done after 350 000.

    It would be a long suffering 600,000 km. I can not bear it.

    I will sell the Mazda at 300,000 km and be happy.

  54. jupes

    And the joint winner of the 2018 Nobel Peace prize is ??????

    Let’s hope they get asked but turn it down.

  55. Leigh Lowe

    Hillary will be guzzling through a half-crate of Chardy tonight and crooning “It shoulda been meeeee …” to herself (or her cats).

  56. Leigh Lowe

    Up until now, the Norks have been taking what they can get by blackmail.

    I for one can always be blackmailed by Norks.

  57. jupes

    “President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”

    Not a bad result for someone who can’t concentrate for more than a minute.

  58. Armadillo

    Here’s the reason I think Trump won. At some point in time, people get sick of being extorted. That’s what the left has been doing. Raising taxes and then pissing your money up the wall.

    When Trump comes along and says, I’m going to “drain the swamp” and shut down all these bullshit schemes, people think thank God. Same with trade. When other countries are robbing you of your jobs and livelihoods, it gets to a point of “enough is enough”. It’s partly extortion under the guise of “fairness and equality”.

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jordan B Peterson
    @jordanbpeterson
    Tomorrow — on my birthday, synchronistically enough — my audio version of Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief comes out. It’s a hard book, but I think listening to it will make it much more accessible (and it goes well with 12 Rules for Life): (link: http://j.mp/2vB9Jpy) j.mp/2vB9Jpy

  60. Shy Ted

    The next episode of Planet America is going to be brilliant. It’s absolutely the worst of the ABC with completely unhinged points of view from two nobodies but now they really do have no material to left-spin.

  61. zyconoclast

    To have only spent this much in two years is a good thing. Now shut it down.

    $500,000 wind farm experts provided no advice in two years

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/500-000-wind-farm-experts-provided-no-advice-in-two-years-20180611-p4zks3.html

  62. Shy Ted

    Comments in The Guardian are insane. There’s gonna be some serious self-harming on the left in the next few days.

  63. zyconoclast

    Australians must resist changing ‘race discrimination’ title, says outgoing commissioner

    “Being direct about fighting racism doesn’t sit well with some people. That’s perhaps one reason why some have suggested that the office of Race Discrimination Commissioner be renamed or redefined, that it should be called the Community Relations Commissioner or something similar,” Dr Soutphommasane will say on Tuesday in a speech in Sydney.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-must-resist-changing-race-discrimination-title-says-outgoing-commissioner-20180611-p4zks7.html

  64. thefrollickingmole

    Stimpson J. Cat

    Care to comment on Dennis Rodman in a MAGA cap on CNN?

    Have you taken over as God again and just toying with us?

  65. Leigh Lowe

    When Trump comes along and says, I’m going to “drain the swamp” and shut down all these bullshit schemes, people think thank God. Same with trade. When other countries are robbing you of your jobs and livelihoods, it gets to a point of “enough is enough”. It’s partly extortion under the guise of “fairness and equality”.

    And he has called out the greatest of them all – The Climate Scam.
    The West commits to expensive and unreliable power whilst simultaneously subsidising shit-holes to “commit to maybe making a transition to carbon free power one day”.
    In other words, transfer jobs and wealth from the West to the private interests of the despots who run the shit-holes.
    I have never been able to figure how the atmosphere can distinguish between a carbon molecule emitted in the West (bad) from one emitted in a shit-hole (good).

  66. egg_

    The next episode of Planet America is going to be brilliant.

    It should be renamed “Parallel Clown Universe”.
    h/t Twostix

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Shy Ted

    #2735068, posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Comments in The Guardian are insane. There’s gonna be some serious self-harming on the left in the next few days.

    Well, it isn’t hard to work out.
    They were hoping that Kim would fire off some nukes at South Korea and Japan and they could blame Trump for the Armageddon.
    Who gives a shit about 200,000 – 300,000 dead if we can stick to Trump, hey?

  68. Baldrick

    The next episode of Planet America is going to be brilliant.

    John Barron, the sneerer-in-Chief is already working on it …

    John Barron ✔ @JohnBarronUSA
    WW3 didn’t start, so there’s that
    ___
    John Barron ✔ @JohnBarronUSA
    Talk of “security guarantees” and “working toward” denuclearisation – ie: they agree on what they agreed on yesterday. But hey, nice photos

  69. Delta A

    Here’s the reason I think Trump won.

    There’s a multitude of reasons Trump won, including Dillo’s. It would make for a very interesting book, if an author had the patience and the resources to carry out the research.

    Equally as interesting a book as “Why Hillary Didn’t Win”.

  70. zyconoclast

    DIVERSITY PROPAGANDA BLITZ: “BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCOTTISH TOO!”
    [includes propaganda videos]

    Scotland is one of the least “diverse” countries in western Europe, revealed to be 2% brown in the 2001 census and 4% in the census of 2011. Its leaders obviously feel it is missing out on the benefits of diversity and have, consequently, targeted the population for propaganda bombardment.

  71. calli

    Equally as interesting a book as “Why Hillary Didn’t Win”.

    That book will probably (hopefully) be part of a larger volume of court records.

  72. zyconoclast

    From 2010

    Muslim Infiltration of the SNP

    On 5 July 2010 the Herald carried this report about infiltration of the Scottish National Party (SNP) by Muslims. For reasons of political correctness, it did not describe the infiltrators as Muslims, saying only that they had “Asian surnames”.

    “The SNP has denied allegations of vote-rigging after its executive committee was forced to take action to prevent new members standing for election in the west of Scotland, following a sudden upsurge in membership in the region.

    It emerged yesterday that the SNP’s national executive committee had become suspicious after hundreds of new members – most of whom are understood to have Asian surnames – suddenly joined the party in the west of Scotland just in time to vote for their preferred candidate in this summer’s selection process for the Holyrood race.”

    It emerged that the Muslim at the centre of these allegations was Jahangir “Kalashnikov” Hanif. This man acquired the soubriquet “the Kalashnikov councillor” when a video surfaced of him firing a Kalashnivov assault rifle on a trip to Pakistan. Following this revelation, he was briefly suspended from the party but was later reinstated.

    On 8 August 2010 the Herald reported that the SNP’s National Executive Committee had cleared Hanif of “claims he had falsely signed up new members to the Nationalists”.

    An email from an SNP activist to Hanif was quoted:

    “If the media get hold of the fact we are falsly (sic) signing people up they would have a field day, … Can you tell me if any of the others you have sent are real members or just ones you have made up?”

    Hanif was cleared of “falsely signing up new members”. All this means is that the people he signed up did actually exist. It says nothing about whether or not he was deliberately encouraging fellow Muslims to join the SNP in large numbers in order to affect the outcome of future elections or selections. In other words he was not cleared of practising entryism because entryism is not considered “wrong-doing” by the SNP.

    Pro-Muslim Bias in SNP Leadership

    Scotland’s first Muslim MSP was Bashir Ahmad of the SNP. According to the Herald, Alex Salmond once said “Bashir looked upon Nicola as a daughter.” Nicola is Nicola Sturgeon, current Deputy First Minister in the SNP government.

    The Herald reported that one of Alex Salmond’s parliamentary aides was Humza Yousaf. The SNP leadership was apparently keen for Humza Yousaf to be accepted as a political candidate. But his nomination was rejected by the local party. The Herald described this as a “blow to both Salmond and Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, who are promoting him as a successor to Holyrood’s first Asian MSP, Bashir Ahmad. It is understood Sturgeon accompanied Yousaf around Pollok. The First Minister also provided Yousaf with a glowing endorsement for his website.”

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Talk of “security guarantees” and “working toward” denuclearisation – ie: they agree on what they agreed on yesterday. But hey, nice photos

    Kind of like Obumbi’s Iran deal (except Trump only had to buy a bowl of sweet and sour pork, not ante up a 40 foot shipping container full of non-sequential greenbacks).

  74. Nick

    Just remember, it was the Left who quickly gave Obama a Nobel Peace Prize. Says it all.

  75. Leigh Lowe

    zyconoclast

    #2735088, posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    DIVERSITY PROPAGANDA BLITZ: “BROWN PEOPLE ARE SCOTTISH TOO!”
    [includes propaganda videos]

    What does a Scotsman wear under his hijab?

  76. zyconoclast

    Trump administration moves to block victims of gang violence and domestic abuse from claiming asylum

    Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions has ordered immigration judges to stop granting asylum to most victims of domestic abuse and gang violence, a move that could block tens of thousands of people, especially women, from seeking refuge in America.

    The decision, which immigration advocates are sure to aggressively fight, comes as Sessions seeks to use the authority of his office to sharply change U.S. immigration law to make it less friendly to asylum seekers.

    The attorney general has the power to issue decisions that serve as binding precedents for immigration judges. In this instance, he used a case involving a victim of domestic violence from El Salvador to rule that survivors of such “private” crimes are not eligible for asylum under U.S. law.

  77. Boambee John

    it should be called the Community Relations Commissioner or something similar,” Dr Soutphommasane will say on Tuesday in a speech in Sydney.

    Wasn’t that the original title when Gough set it up for Grassby after he lost his seat?

  78. Leigh Lowe

    There’s a multitude of reasons Trump won, including Dillo’s. It would make for a very interesting book, if an author had the patience and the resources to carry out the research.

    Equally as interesting a book as “Why Hillary Didn’t Win”.

    Why Trump won: – He wasn’t Hillary.
    Why Hillary lost:- She was Hillary.

  79. OldOzzie

    Tim Soutphommasane warns over suspicion of Chinese Australians

    Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane has warned the debate over foreign influence is “threatening to spill over into a general suspicion of Chinese-Australians” and argued “there are signs we are flirting with danger”.

    Dr Soutphommasane used a speech in Sydney today to defend the position of Race Discrimination Commissioner as his term draws to close, sounding the alarm on “further signs of racism becoming normalised within mainstream media and public discourse”.

    He said that “intolerance has been emboldened” and identified a number of causes including “far-right nationalism aimed at immigrants and multiculturalism” and “old-fashioned bigotry aimed at indigenous people”.

    According to a version of his speech posted to the website of the Australian Human Rights Commission, Dr Soutphommasane also attacked the “fear and anxiety” being “whipped up” in relation to African youth crime in Melbourne.

    He warned it had led to members of African-Australian Communities being “unjustly stereotyped as being prone to criminality”.

    Reflecting on the push to amend section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, Dr Soutphommasane argued that attempts to change the law amounted to “assaults on racial equality and tolerance”.

    “There will continue to be the usual noise from the regular quarters about abolishing section 18C of the Act. There is renewed energy among those who wish to make it easier to discriminate against others, or to make it harder to fight back against racism,” he told the National Forum on Racial Tolerance and Community Harmony. “And the next attack might come from a new direction”.

    Addressing the government’s measures to counter foreign interference in Australia’s domestic political processes, Dr Soutphommasane sounded a note of caution. He said it was important to ensure these efforts were not accompanied by a new wave of racism towards the 1.2 million Australians with Chinese ancestry.

    He also suggested there were attempts to condition Australians into accepting anti-Chinese sentiment by some “national security hawks”.

    “We have seen an intensification of debate about foreign influence — in particular, that of the Chinese Communist Party. This is an important issue, and it is vital there is proportionate action taken to eliminate foreign influence aimed at disrupting and undermining our democratic institutions,” he said.

    “It is concerning, however, that some of the antagonism towards the Chinese party state is threatening to spill over into a general suspicion of Chinese-Australians. Many Chinese-Australian members of the community have expressed this apprehension to me.

    There are signs we are flirting with danger.

    “Just consider how some national security hawks here now suggest that expressing concerns about anti-Chinese racism amounts to aiding the propaganda agenda of the Chinese Communist Party.

    “We are now at the point where some are conditioning us to accept that anti-Chinese sentiment may just be collateral damage we must accept in a new cold war. Given there are 1.2 million Australians who have Chinese ancestry, the scale of such potential damage would be significant”.

    Dr Soutphommasane said he would finish his five year term on 19 August, but welcomed moves by the Turnbull government to appoint a new Commissioner arguing there was still a pressing need for the position.

    “There are some, though, who question the need for a Race Discrimination Commissioner. Some say that racism is so ‘very rare’ in today’s Australia that it doesn’t merit our society having a Commissioner,” he said.

    “Clearly, not everyone has experienced racism. For those privileged to be in this position, it is easy to declare we don’t need public offices and efforts dedicated to combating racism. It is convenient to declare that racism doesn’t exist in any significant measure.

    He said that, in 2017, 20 per cent of Australians said they had experienced discrimination over the past 12 months.

    “Being direct about fighting racism doesn’t sit well with some people. That’s perhaps one reason why some have suggested that the office of Race Discrimination Commissioner be renamed or redefined — that it should be called the Community Relations Commissioner, or something similar. It has been suggested that the work of a Race Discrimination Commissioner is divisive”.

    Dr Soutphommasane said it was fitting that the statutory officer under the Racial Discrimination Act be called the “Race Discrimination Commissioner” and warned the position was even more important at a time of resurgent nationalism and the risk of a deterioration in the tenor of public debate.

    “At a time when extremist nationalism is on the march, we should be ramping up our efforts to fight racism — not retreating from them,” he said. “Division is caused not by our response to racism; the real division is caused by racism itself”.

    “Friends, we must be on guard — not only to the risk of our public discourse deteriorating, but also to the risk, yet again, of legislative change. Because if there is a serious desire to rename the office of Race Discrimination Commissioner or to redefine the functions of the office, this can only be done through a change to the legislation that sets these terms. If people want to change the name or the role of the Race Discrimination Commissioner, they will have to change the Racial Discrimination Act”.

    From the Comments

    – What a twit! Where else in the world would allow a Chinese diaspora like our big cities? Already half the residents of Melbourne’s CBD are Chinese.

    – more self inflicted problems

    – Travel to Hong Kong and ask around, I assure you the people there and in Taiwan R.O.C. (The Republic of China) are super worried about the influence of the Chinese Communist Party. Tim, your parents would recall the trustwortiness or otherwise of communists. Ask them about the power sharing deal between the Kingdom of Laos and the communist Pathet Lao that was reneged on by the Pathet Lao after 24 months and has subjected the Lao people to 40 years of opression.

    I would say you may be guilty of profiling all chinese people as the same, many are very glad of the hard line against the CCP.

    As for home invasions, this is a failure of the Victoria Police and justice system. In a similar way the NSW police failed in the lead up to the Cronulla riots. Those riots would never had happened if the NSW police had nipped the problem of Lebanse gangs in the bud, instead it got out of control and people took matters (wrongly) into their own hands with provocateurs joining inciting them. Simialrly if the Victorian justice system had taken the gang offenders off the street, for good, early in the piece then there would be no backlash. Softly, softly policies as promoted by your and other organisations end up back firing spectacularly. Enforce the law and treat everyone as equal before the law.

    – Cleary stupidity and lack of insight isn’t a prerequisite for mandatory referral to the HRC but it is if you want a job there.

    – i thought we had heard the last of soupy timmy.

    Tim Soutphommasane is just full of it. There are plenty of Chinese Australians who are concerned about the Party’s efforts at espionage and influence in Australia. My spouse is one of them. If he’s saying he’s not then perhaps it’s because he’s already in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). And wouldn’t that explain a lot of things, eh?

    Has this man ever added something sensible to our national discourse ?

  80. Rossini

    JC is right TRUMP IS GOD!

  81. Roger

    How many inhabitants of Manhattan are so, so very careful to travel the world “being respectful”…However, when it comes to respect for their compatriots in fly-over country … not so much.

    Not only no respect, but palpable disdain; not so Bourdain!

    I’m currently reading JD Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy. The USA is a huge, varied and complex place.

    Read the reviews; I’m going to get around to it soon. US regionalism is fascinating.

  82. Stimpson J. Cat

    Have you taken over as God again and just toying with us?

    I think what’s happening at the moment is just fantastic.
    It is really the ultimate test of character, when a sane person is confronted with sheer and utter madness.
    How they respond tells you a lot about someone.
    I mean, I know who I am and how I respond, and have done for years now, but for thousands, if not millions of people, it is a rather confronting, unexpected, and frightening situation that there is no escape from.

    It’s just great.

    Good luck people!

    😁

  83. Baldrick

    John Barron’s heading for a head explosion. He’s updated his last tweet:

    John Barron ✔ @JohnBarronUSA
    Nothingburger. Less than 2005. Still, no WW3 today, so there’s that.

  84. Roger

    Queenslanders will spend almost $1 billion more on public sector wages next year amid record spending on health and education, as windfall coal royalties deliver both new infrastructure spending and modest surpluses.

    But…the planet!

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Queensland Labor Party.

  85. OldOzzie

    Trump Kim summit: North Korea leader pledges ‘complete denuclearisation’

    27 MINUTES AGO | 5.10pm
    More on Trump-Kim agreement

    A joint declaration signed by Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un says the US has committed to providing “security guarantees” to the North, AP reports.

    The document signed at the end of the pair’s historic summit in Singapore on Tuesday also says Kim “reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula.”

    It’s unclear exactly what Mr Trump has promised Kim in terms of security. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declined to say on Monday whether guarantees might include withdrawing US troops from the Korean Peninsula.

    A copy of the text snapped by a photographer at the signing summit says Trump and Kim also discussed how to build “a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula” in their talks.

    The document lays out four broad commitments. It says the sides “commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.”

    And it says they will commit to recovering the remains of prisoners of war and those missing in action.

    AN HOUR AGO | 4.40pm
    Details of document emerge

    Kim Jong-un has committed to “complete denuclearisation of Korean Peninsula” in his joint text with Donald Trump, AFP reports.

    The document also reportedly commits the US to “security guarantees” and the establishment of “new US-DPRK relations”.

    The text made no mention of US demands for “complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation” — jargon for scrapping weapons and committing to inspections — but did restate a vaguer commitment, AFP saw in a photo of the document.

  86. Jo Smyth

    Just listening to Fox and there are two young whipper snappers on who obviously 🙄 know everything. They are just reminding us that the wheels were set in motion for today, long before Donald Trump came along and all the hard work was done by previous Administrations.

  87. egg_

    Still, no WW3 today…

    Not so sure, Lefty heads are exploding globally.

  88. DrBeauGan

    Trump has had a great couple of days. Crapped all over the Euroweenies and had a summit with little Kim that might actually lead to peace and a Maccas in Pyongyang.

    Not to mention making m0nty and other loony lefty losers look the pathetic creepy people they are.

  89. DrBeauGan

    Jo Smyth
    #2735132, posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:42 pm
    Just listening to Fox and there are two young whipper snappers on who obviously 🙄 know everything. They are just reminding us that the wheels were set in motion for today, long before Donald Trump came along and all the hard work was done by previous Administrations.

    Wasn’t it smart of Trump to steal all the credit from Obummer!😁

  90. Atoms for Peace

    At $70 per tonne waste levy, I guess power generation from waste has just been put on the back burner.

  91. thefrollickingmole

    I think its safe to say the trump/Kim meeting was a failure because they didnt cure cancer.

    And even if they did, it was the wrong sort of cancer.

  92. Atoms for Peace

    Obama’s legacy already has an historical sepia look.

  93. Eyrie

    Why Trump won:
    The Donald to Kim: Last week at midday on Tuesday you were at Lat xx.xx.xx N, Long yyy.yy.yy West, zz meters above/below sea level.
    Now let’s talk.

  94. John Constantine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W8M7G8X68w

    we came, we saw, he died.

    Hilary laughing about Gaddaffi Arkanciding by giving up his nuclear weapons program so their clinton crime cartel could have him sodomised with a machete by a revolutionary fundamentalist islamist, while a pack of his cousins held the denuclearised man down and helpless.

  95. thefrollickingmole

    This mans name is a pallindrome.

    Its Dick Wolf because he really wolfs Dicks.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/12/the-singapore-summit-is-a-global-exercise-in-damage-limitation-of-donald-trump
    Let’s be honest. The sight of high-level talks with a bellicose, incoherent, nuclear-armed world leader is far better than the alternative. What good can come from isolating an impetuous man suffering from delusions of grandeur?

    Yes, it’s a relief to see the world trying to talk sense to Donald J Trump, even if those talks are doomed to fail.

    The imperative for the world’s leaders is how to manage the risks posed by an American president who can’t be trusted to keep his word or to distinguish his friends from his foes. What the world watched aghast at the G7 summit is the same dynamic it now sees in Singapore: a global exercise in damage limitation of Donald Trump.

    Hes breaking them, they are lying on their backs with the cage strapped to their faces as reality adds Donny the rat to the cage..
    Just a short while and it will be..

    “He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of mind was hidden beneath the Golden combover. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Donald”

  96. Tel

    The Donald to Kim: Last week at midday on Tuesday you were at Lat xx.xx.xx N, Long yyy.yy.yy West, zz meters above/below sea level.
    Now let’s talk.

    Remember that little red spot that kept annoying you back in Pyongyang? Every time you look down, there’s that red spot hanging around you again.

    *pulls out a laser pointer*

    Ever seen one of these?

  97. Anthony

    He’s got the economy purring. Doesn’t take any nonsense from people who have been robbing the US blind for decades. Is actively sorting NK and the ME out to best advantage.
    What a stupid fuckwit – he’s destroying the world.
    Isn’t he?

  98. Farmer Gez

    Kim wants to be the Gorbachev of Asia and our media are too dim and blinded by hate to see it. He knows that NK can’t remain Maoist shithole while China booms next door.
    He probably believes he is safer with a peace deal that offers protection by the US as a safeguard against the Red Guard marching across the border. They are Koreans after all, not Chinese.
    That’s my theory anyways.

  99. Nick

    It’s interesting listening to the Left whine about North Korea’s human rights abuses when their representatives readily accept coin from China without demure.

  100. Leigh Lowe

    Eyrie

    #2735160, posted on June 12, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    Why Trump won:
    The Donald to Kim: Last week at midday on Tuesday you were at Lat xx.xx.xx N, Long yyy.yy.yy West, zz meters above/below sea level.
    Now let’s talk.

    I was talking to a Navy Seal commander … they’re great .. the best … the very best … great guys.
    I asked him if he could infiltrate North Korea and shoot everyone under 5’6″ and over 220 pounds. No skinny people, understand … just fat ones. I mean, how hard can it be? He tells me he could get every last one within two weeks … two weeks! Wow! Those guys are good.
    So … let’s talk.

  101. DrBeauGan

    It’s amazing how the lefty delusional system can persist in the face of evidence. It’s like any religious conversion I guess. Wolfe Dick is demonstrating his fervour in his faith.

  102. calli

    Nice analogy, TFM.

    I prefer to think of Wolfe and his cohort frozen here.

    🚀

  103. calli

    It’s like any religious conversion I guess.

    You guess wrong.

  104. Zatara

    The Trump administration hasn’t committed to an Obama-era pledge to put abolitionist and civil rights hero Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill, according to a statement from a Senate Democrat.

    Dear Democrats, it wasn’t an Obama-era pledge, it was an Obama pledge. The same Obama who said ‘elections have consequences’.

    Lesson? Don’t put off doing today what you assume Hillary will do later.

  105. thefrollickingmole

    There is every chance the deal will go to crap again, but it is fun to consider at this stage of his presidency the lightworker was receiving the Nobel Peace prize for his “tone” and nuclear nonproliferation efforts as well as tonging the ass of the Arab/Muslim world.

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama’s promotion of nuclear nonproliferation[2] and a “new climate” in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.

    If Donny 2 scoops doesnt get the prize then in effect the Nobel mob are saying the only thing that matters is appeasing the muslim street.

    How did the Obamanators reasons for getting the prize go in the real world?

    More Nukes
    More wars
    More Muzziemania.

  106. Nick

    Harriet Tubman? Sounds like she founded Krispy Kreme

  107. Armadillo

    He probably believes he is safer with a peace deal that offers protection by the US as a safeguard against the Red Guard marching across the border.

    I think that’s pretty accurate, Farmer. Going to the Chinese and Russians “cap in hand” for the past 60 years must have been pretty humiliating at times. And for what? Protection from the US, but fuck all else. A few grains of rice to keep the population from starving.

    Dealing with Trump is a much better proposition. Protection, loans, trade and investment. The guy recieved a good education in Europe, but had to come back and deal with the brutal reality of local politics. Arkinside without a mask.

    I’d reckon Kim sees this as a survival issue, more so than Trump seeing it as a legacy issue.

  108. Makka

    Why Trump won:
    The Donald to Kim: Last week at midday on Tuesday you were at Lat xx.xx.xx N, Long yyy.yy.yy West, zz meters above/below sea level.
    Now let’s talk.

    Trump; 3 weeks ago we had 6 x Boomers locked and loaded surrounding the Peninsula. Not to mention our CBG’s. I believe they are somewhere still in the vicinity.

  109. Armadillo

    Killary would have been jealous of young Kim.

  110. nemkat

    Those with long memories will recall Robert Pirsig, writer of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and the Jordan B Peterson of the early Seventies.
    Like Peterson, he was heavily medicated Academic, Mental Illnesses ran in his family, and his personal life was an ongoing disaster.

    Anyway, he died last year.

  111. Farmer Gez

    Trump’s news conference is a triumph!
    Obama last seen in a foetal position mumbling something about hope and change.

  112. Roger

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama’s promotion of nuclear nonproliferation[2] and a “new climate” in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.

    Mmm…yes, that went well.

    Europe is still reaping the benefits nine years later.

  113. DrBeauGan

    calli
    #2735186, posted on June 12, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    It’s like any religious conversion I guess.

    You guess wrong.

    Oh, I dunno. The same conviction of rightness, the same indifference to facts, the same desire to convert others (by the sword if necessary) as many muslims and some Christians.

    I grant you that Christians are much nicer people than lefties. But you’re both infected with certainty. The rest of us manage to live with doubts and be happy with them.

  114. H B Bear

    Obama’s legacy already has an historical sepia look.

    The Magic Negro better hurry up and finish his Presidential Library while there is still something to put in there.

  115. egg_

    He probably believes he is safer with a peace deal that offers protection by the US as a safeguard against the Red Guard marching across the border.

    Eastern Russia are also offering direct trade and have held meetings with the Norks.

  116. Farmer Gez

    Eastern Russia are also offering direct trade and have held meetings with the Norks

    Is there a Disneyland in Vladivostok?

  117. Slayer of Memes

    Not so sure, Lefty heads are exploding globally.

    Quite so.

    Such a glorious sight, it brings a tear to the eye..

  118. Farmer Gez

    Trump talks about US farmers and unfair trade practised by Canada and the EU.
    May as well be talking Swahili to ignorant urban elite media. Trump secures the Mid West states at a peace summit. Genius!

  119. stackja

    Democratic Party created Korean problem.

  120. Roger

    The ABC’s 7:30 needs three correspondents in Singapore to cover the summit and three at home as well.

    Journalists interviewing journalists.

  121. Roger

    Trump talks about US farmers and unfair trade practised by Canada and the EU.
    May as well be talking Swahili to ignorant urban elite media.

    Otoh, the WaPo is now calling out Trudeau’s hypocrisy.

  122. Snoopy

    The rivalry between the ABC’s sTan Grant and Philip Williams on one side and Zoe Daniel on the other makes the rivalry between Trump and Kim look like a kindergarten spat.

  123. egg_

    The distraction squirrel on The Dumb was that Trump was mean to his neighbour and best friend, Canada – that’s why there’s a “special place in hell” for him according to milksop, Trudeau.

  124. Snoopy

    The ABC’s 7:30 needs three correspondents in Singapore to cover the summit and three at home as well.

    Journalists interviewing journalists.

    And not a single clue between them.

  125. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    “Being direct about fighting racism doesn’t sit well with some people. That’s perhaps one reason why some have suggested that the office of Race Discrimination Commissioner be renamed or redefined, that it should be called the Community Relations Commissioner or something similar,” Dr Soutphommasane will say on Tuesday in a speech in Sydney.

    racism, the belief that all races are different.

  126. Roger

    And not a single clue between them.

    But well over a million in publicly funded salaries, I’d reckon.

  127. H B Bear

    Journalists interviewing journalists.

    I have previously suggested half of the ALPBC’s budget could be cut and simply replaced by a webcam trained on the staff co-op water-cooler. I never heard back from Googles G or Mitch Fifield.

  128. Oh, I dunno. The same conviction of rightness, the same indifference to facts, the same desire to convert others (by the sword if necessary) as many muslims and some Christians.

    …. But you’re both infected with certainty. The rest of us manage to live with doubts and be happy with them.

    Calli is right here. No convert is ‘indifferent to facts’ given that some problem must have been apparent to them which they think was resolved by their new position. And although they are convinced of the rightness of their judgments there are always lingering doubts they hope will be ameliorated through further reflection. That is certainly in keeping with the testimony of actual converts.

  129. Nick

    How come Prince George with a pop gun creates outrage, but a hijab wearing kid with a copy of a rifle, wandering around a hospital, doesn’t ?

  130. Roger

    I never heard back from Googles G or Mitch Fifield.

    Googles is on close to $1m p.a..

    Not bad for an editor in chief who denies editorial responsibility when questioned.

  131. egg_

    Journalists interviewing journalists.

    That’s a whole lotta j’ism, right there.

  132. C.L.

    How come Prince George with a pop gun creates outrage, but a hijab wearing kid with a copy of a rifle, wandering around a hospital, doesn’t ?

    Bingo.

  133. John Constantine

    https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/criminal-investigation-for-sheep-exporter/news-story/415b3b51538d343d1e82ed0ff8315c43

    Politically, their turnbull election winning machine lacks certainty in its numbers to get live sheep legislation through, as their shorten looting cartel is prepared to destroy live animal exports as an industry to score an embarrassment in parliament over turnbull.

    I don’t use the live sheep export market, but it is linked in to the entire Australian red meat industry, and overnight shutdowns would let their mafia meatworks slash all prices to all producers.

    There is a statistical potential that turnbull will call an election within a year, that shorten will win it, and live exports will be banned.

    This should feed into the price of sheep right now, but it isn’t. On the other hand, political potential for bastardry is always with us.

    Their black handed turnbullites could win the election and make veganism compulsory.

    After dropping half the grain cropping program for hay and sheepfeed grazing crops, the stocking density is looking a trifle conservative………….Technically the price of stock is so high that selling down is attractive, but getting back in is too hard.

    Once again technically, selling castrated male sheep to buy young female cattle is the go on the back of an envelope, but you have to be psychologically capable of running the demanding, fence smashing, hungry gutted man hating beasts. Like having a paddock full of mamma mia journalists, only the daily weight gains aren’t as assured.

  134. Rossini

    Just watched on fox the Trump news conference. Great questions and answers. Malcom should watch and learn from the master.

  135. MsDolittle

    The art of the deal, eh Rossini?

  136. Slayer of Memes

    How come Prince George with a pop gun creates outrage, but a hijab wearing kid with a copy of a rifle, wandering around a hospital, doesn’t ?

    Because neither Prince George, or his father Prince William, are likely to go ‘splodey-‘splodey or hack people’s head off if anyone talks back to them…

  137. Confused Old Misfit

    Someone some distance above in the thread said, I think that Christians are infected(?) with certainty.
    He/she/it could not be more wrong.
    SOME Christians are infected with certainty.
    There FIFY.

  138. herodotus

    The media, who have been so determined to portray Trump as a warmonger and loose cannon, particularly the US media. are now struggling to come to terms with the developments today. So now, as Ben Fordham’s blonde expert was keen to say on Sky (Bolt’s show), how do we know this peace agreement will work? We need details!

    You have to hand it to them, they can change course quicker than I change gears when driving.

  139. stackja

    MSM doesn’t see Islamic State as a problem. Toy guns are!

  140. Rossini

    MsDolittle
    #2735251, posted on June 12, 2018 at 7:25 pm
    The art of the deal, eh Rossini?

    Answered all questions included the “gottchas” with out any noticeable ums and ahs or thank you for a great question!
    JC is correct TRUMP is GOD!

  141. Roger

    The ABC’s 7:30 needs three correspondents in Singapore to cover the summit and three at home as well.

    Cn.: that was ABC News; 7:30 adds another two journalists to the mix.

  142. herodotus

    It was Alexandra Field from CNN! Fordham says maybe Trump’s been underestimated. You reckon?

  143. MsDolittle

    JC is correct TRUMP is GOD!

    He’ll do until one comes along.

  144. Roger

    And although [converts] are convinced of the rightness of their judgments there are always lingering doubts they hope will be ameliorated through further reflection.

    Probability enters in here, in my experience.

    But I think BG meant religious belief rather than religious conversion, despite what he wrote.

  145. OldOzzie

    Most Voters Say Bill Clinton Is A Sexual Predator

    Former President Bill Clinton had an embarrassing #MeToo moment last week in a televised interview, claiming he, too, was a victim of the sex scandal that led to his impeachment. But most voters disagree and see Clinton as a sexual offender instead.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that just 24% of Likely U.S. Voters consider Clinton a victim of his political opponents. Fifty-three percent (53%) describe the ex-president as a sexual predator instead. Another 24% are undecided.(To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Interestingly, men (55%) are more likely to consider Clinton a predator than women (50%) are.

  146. Nick

    If Trumps’ actions are so easy, why didn’t Obama or Hillary do it ?

  147. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There is a statistical potential that turnbull will call an election within a year, that shorten will win it, and live exports will be banned.

    There’s this rather pleasant fantasy that, if the live trade is banned, they will be replaced by sheep slaughtered in Australia, creating Australian jobs chilled and frozen carcasses will be exported instead, citing the New Zealand industry as an example. Wages in New Zealand are lower then in Australia, and the New Zealand taxpayer contributes fairly heavily to subsidize that trade.

  148. Baldrick

    Just watched on fox the Trump news conference. Great questions and answers. Malcom should watch and learn from the master.

    Hahaha, Malcolm isn’t even in the same league.

  149. C.L.

    I caught a proportion of the Trump presser.
    He was answering every question brilliantly. Even his marginalia were fascinating. For example, he noted his own expertise about the cost of flying aircraft vis-a-vis the expense of mobilising enormous bomber and cargo planes out of Guam for exercises with South Korea year after year. Apparently, he’s been awake for 25 hours; he was more in command of the details than Obama after a nap. The Obama era is now simply embarrassing.

  150. calli

    “We both believe, and disbelieve a hundred times an hour, which keeps believing nimble.” ― Emily Dickinson.

    Dealing with doubt is the Christian’s stock-in-trade. Has been from the beginning.

    As time goes by, the desire to be right is eclipsed by the desire to be holy. You get a sense of that in St John’s letters. Niceness is a bit wishy washy as a description. Ruthless trust is a better one.

  151. Baldrick

    Imagine what a dick Robert De Niro feels about now.

  152. Stimpson J. Cat

    But you’re both infected with certainty.

    Statistically speaking more Atheists are infected with fun diseases like STDs and AIDs.
    So it’s a trade off really.
    Live life and live again after death, or live life infected with STDs and AIDs and then die and become nothing.

  153. Nick

    The Left must be thinking ‘if only Trump was black’

  154. Zatara

    Trump’s news conference was excellent.

    I enjoyed the way he segued between hard core negotiating positions like ‘sanctions will remain until the nukes are gone’ and:

    ‘But how about those Nork beaches? The ones you can see in that video of the cannons shooting? I can see building some great condos right there!’

    Art of the deal indeed.

  155. herodotus

    Arctic sea ice just not behaving as predicted by “97% of scientists” and assorted rabble. Currently higher than the 2004-2013 mean and not fading away.
    https://realclimatescience.com/2018/06/disaster-strikes-for-climate-alarmists/

  156. Rockdoctor

    OK for this one for the Tech Cats. My internet on the blink, till I get it fixed have been using a technique with my mobile phone I have used in South East Asia with nil dramas with their sim cards but forever drops out in Australia with local telco’s.

    I have connected with my PC via secured wi-fi internet sharing, SEA no issues in fact I can surf for hours only having to reset when someone calls me or I chose to end the session. Why is it with both Telstra & Optus even the other halfs vodafone same technique & I am forever resetting the connection? Sometimes even after 30 seconds. Getting frustrated as signal & data strength all good.

    Just curious, one Phone is a Galaxy, mine one of those Microsoft New Nokia things. Google hasn’t been my friend here and I normally fix minor IT problems by that means…

  157. egg_

    KRudd says give the agreement a go.
    Kim is unpredictable, however.

  158. I’m s happy as anybody could be with developments in North Korea and more power to Trump, but am I imagining reports a few months ago of the main NK nuclear weapons manufacturing facility blowing up and self-destructing?

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Interestingly, men (55%) are more likely to consider Clinton a predator than women (50%) are.

    Women.

    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

  160. egg_

    How to prevent Android phones to disconnect from Wi-Fi networks
    Most newer Android phones and tablets will attempt to test the Internet connection when connecting to your hotspot. Sometimes, however, they may incorrectly detect a poor Internet connection when the connection is perfectly fine. You can disable this feature in your Android device by looking under the Advanced Wi-Fi settings for the option that allows the Android device to automatically switch away from a wireless network if it thinks the network is bad. There are lots of different names for that option on different versions of Android, so try looking for something along the lines of:

    Avoid Poor Connections
    Auto Network Switch
    Smart Network Switch

  161. nemkat

    Realistically, our pasture fed sheep are better off being processed humanely here, and sold for top dollar, rather than being practically given away to the Arabs and Pakistanis.
    We’re constantly being told Australia needs to value add to survive, yet here we are kowtowing to camel jockeys.

  162. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Realistically, our pasture fed sheep are better off being processed humanely here, and sold for top dollar, rather than being practically given away to the Arabs and Pakistanis

    Nemkat, stick to arguing why Custer’s soldiers carried AK47’s during the First Boer War, you know more about that then you do the sheep industry.

  163. bundyrum

    IG report on Trumps birthday this Thursday, to see Hitlery indicted would end a dream week…

    I can dream too.

  164. Death Giraffe

    I see a future where intelligent sheep are trained to off each other in an orderly and humane manner.

  165. JC

    Rones

    The funniest times here are when you try to sound tough and authoritative. It’s like another you, you little termite. Stop it as our sides ache.

  166. P

    But I think BG meant religious belief rather than religious conversion, despite what he wrote.

    Now on a higher plane I dwell,
    And with my soul I know ’tis well;
    Yet how or why, I cannot tell,
    He should have lifted me.

  167. Confused Old Misfit

    Nemkat has, apparently, never visited an abattoir. He also does not appear to have looked closely at some of the types of persons that work at an abattoirs.
    Like all business operations there are good ones and then there are The Dodgy Bros.

  168. Death Giraffe

    Good to see P put in an appearance.
    What do you think of todays summit P?

  169. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yes P, tell us of the changes you have seen in Korea in your long lifetime.

  170. P

    What do you think of todays summit P?

    WOW !

    I thank God for Donald J Trump.

  171. Death Giraffe

    I thank God for Donald J Trump

    ..
    Darn straight.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2735293, posted on June 12, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    Interestingly, men (55%) are more likely to consider Clinton a predator than women (50%) are.

    That is a shitload.
    Consider that there are 20% to 25% rustadon Democrats who would never answer yes to that even if he admitted to being in the Manson family.
    So, pretty much 2/3 of objective observers recognise that he is pondscum and that Illary enabled it and nobbled the complainants.

  173. nemkat

    Nemkat has, apparently, never visited an abattoir. He also does not appear to have looked closely at some of the types of persons that work at an abattoirs.
    Like all business operations there are good ones and then there are The Dodgy Bros.
    Okay, but so what?
    These places are regulated, hygienic, and humane. And they employ Australians.

    Add all that to the fact that the developed world is crying out for pasture raised meat, and Live Export sounds like economic madness, which it is.

  174. Slayer of Memes

    I see a future where intelligent sheep are trained to off each other in an orderly and humane manner.

    It’s been done before DG (albeit with a cow)…

  175. Leigh Lowe

    Yes P, tell us of the changes you have seen in Korea in your long lifetime.

    Originally it was one country called Siam.

  176. Oh come on

    The defamation case against Fairfax brought about by that dodgy Chinese oligarch.

    It’s a pity they can’t both lose.

  177. Snoopy

    Interestingly, men (55%) are more likely to consider Clinton a predator than women (50%) are.

    50% of women wish they were Monica?

    #HeyWhatAboutMeToo

  178. Oh come on

    Imagine what a dick Robert De Niro feels about now.

    Balders, that’s not at all how the leftist mindset works. Hell, just look at the way m0nty carries on here, regardless of however many goals Trump kicks.

  179. Death Giraffe

    Scott Adams makes an interesting point about Eyebrowgate.
    Justin Trudeau s dad also had a weird left eyebrow:

  180. P

    Yes P, tell us of the changes you have seen in Korea in your long lifetime.

    I can’t do that but I do remember in my first year at High School, toward the end of 1952, my best schoolfriend’s next door neighbour was killed in Korea. She cried every day at school for three days. She lived at Kogarah close to the school. The boy was just 18yrs of age and had only been in the army for six months or so. That was my most poignant memory of the Korean War.

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    Originally it was one country called Siam.

    And it was ruled by macho bald men who could sing, dance, and smoke.

  182. Frank

    And it was ruled by macho bald men who could sing, dance, and smoke.

    Just don’t smoke, whatever you do, don’t smoke!

  183. nemkat

    Realistically, though, Monica Lewinsky destroyed Clinton’s reputation, and the damage lasted long enough to stop Hillary in 2008 and 2016.
    Lewinsky outsmarted him, not a bad effort for a 20 year old.

  184. Oh come on

    Charles Krauthammer released a very bold, thoughtful and dignified letter informing anyone concerned of his impending death. You should check it out, P. See how it’s done.

  185. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    These places are regulated, hygienic, and humane. And they employ Australians.

    Umm, the Australian meat industry has been bringing in overseas workers on 457 visas for some time, because Australians don’t want to work in abattoirs?

  186. Steve trickler

    So many young minds are going to discover music from yesterday…. and go wow! And they will compare it to the musical charts today… and wonder, WTF is going on!

    Discovering music will be a fascinating ride for the youth of today. They have access to all of it, at the touch of a finger.



  187. Slayer of Memes

    Originally it was one country called Siam.

    And it was ruled by macho bald men who could sing, dance, and smoke.

    et-cetera, et-cetera, et-cetera

  188. nemkat

    Umm, the Australian meat industry has been bringing in overseas workers on 457 visas for some time, because Australians don’t want to work in abattoirs?

    Maybe.
    The issue, though, is that we should be processing our own stock here, and not be a farm for rich Arabs.

  189. Geriatric Mayfly

    I’m currently reading JD Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy. The USA is a huge, varied and complex place.
    Read the reviews; I’m going to get around to it soon. US regionalism is fascinating.

    Just finished it. To the outsider, that hillbilly corner of Ohio/Kentucky would appear totally dysfunctional, but there are ties that bind. Many crave escape, few achieve it, such as the author; but to his hillbilly origins, with their many painful memories, he maintains a steadfast loyalty, through Yale and beyond. A great deal of introspection as he matures, but shame never surfaces. Parts of it too close to the bone for me.

  190. Entropy

    Once again technically, selling castrated male sheep to buy young female cattle is the go on the back of an envelope, but you have to be psychologically capable of running the demanding, fence smashing, hungry gutted man hating beasts. Like having a paddock full of mamma mia journalists, only the daily weight gains aren’t as assured.

    Aaahhhhhaaahhaaa! Ahhahhasjhaaahas ! Bwahhahhhhaaaa!
    Tips my lid.

  191. Oh come on

    Oops, the sockies all are out and dancing again. My bad.

  192. DrBeauGan

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2735255, posted on June 12, 2018 at 7:27 pm
    Someone some distance above in the thread said, I think that Christians are infected(?) with certainty.
    He/she/it could not be more wrong.
    SOME Christians are infected with certainty.
    There FIFY.

    I’ll accept the amendment..😇

  193. C.L.

    Originally it was one country called Siam.

    Little known fact: Siam’s greatest king was formerly a good-hearted gun-fighter in the Old West.

  194. Entropy

    DimKat. The origin of live exports was a solution to the mendacity of a beautiful friendship between the meatworks owners and the MUA. The incoming Shorten government no doubt wishes to revive that relationship as a threesome.

  195. Entropy

    Little known fact: Siam’s greatest king was formerly a good-hearted gun-fighter in the Old West.

    I thought he was a robot?

  196. Rohan

    egg_
    #2735136, posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:44 pm
    Still, no WW3 today…

    Not so sure, Lefty heads are exploding globally.

    Its called natural selection in the presence of an alpha male.

  197. JC

    FMD

    I just found out Wifey has had a subscription to the NYTImes for years. I never looked at her side of the credit card statement until earlier today as the subscription caught my eye. Something sinister.

    This is just unacceptable.

  198. Gab

    Little known fact: Siam’s greatest king was formerly a good-hearted gun-fighter in the Old West.

    Who had a very beautiful deep voice and told people “don’t smoke”, may he RIP.

  199. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    DimKat. The origin of live exports was a solution to the mendacity of a beautiful friendship between the meatworks owners and the MUA. The incoming Shorten government no doubt wishes to revive that relationship as a threesome.

    One Wally Curran, and the fiercely militant Meatworkers Union, had a great deal to do with the origin of live exports.

  200. Infidel Tiger

    I’ve been away from the internet today. Did did I miss anything?

  201. John Constantine

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/sa-abattoir-to-rise-from-the-ashes

    The big TFI meatworks that burned down in January at Murray Bridge will take 300 million dollars to rebuild and take longer than a couple of years.

    Only an insurance payout to fund it makes it a realistic proposition.

    Australian safe food laws and safe work laws make new meatworks startups unusual.

    They haven’t even really started on the permits yet.

  202. Gab

    Only monty doing his usual little chicken dance becuase Trump, IT.

  203. OneWorldGovernment

    I thought SIAM was Thailand and not Korea!

  204. nemkat

    When you think about it, the Government would only need to change the allowable sheep density on these hell ships by Regulation, and this criminal trade would stop
    There’ll be a backlash from a few W.A. cockies, but these people have been giving Australia a bad name for long enough.

  205. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is just unacceptable.

    No shoes this week JC.
    It’s the only way she’ll learn.

  206. H B Bear

    I’m starting to admire nemsock’s stream of idiocy.

    John C – the industry deserves condemnation for allowing itself to get into this position. I’m not that familiar with the live export participants at least one of them was using open sided, purpose built livestock ships out of Fremantle. The one under investigation was using a converted car carrier with much more limited ventilation. The government too is not blameless as these car carriers were given exemption from the latest regulations under grandfathering provisions.

    If the latest round of gotchas sees the entire live sheep export industry banned, they will carry a large proportion of the blame themselves. Anyone dreaming of the return of Australian abattoirs and chilled meat exports is kidding themselves, particularly once the unions get back involved.

  207. John Constantine

    http://www.newslocker.com/en-au/news/economic-news-australia/as-aacos-abattoir-closes-why-cant-darwin-sustain-a-meatworks/

    Big cattle company tried to solve australias meatworks hassles by drowning them with money.

    failed.

  208. Infidel Tiger

    @BenjySarlin

    I’m not sure it’s possible to capture an entire era in one image, but Dennis Rodman running a cryptocurrency grift on live TV from the North Korea summit while wearing a MAGA is a serious nominee

    https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1006348697704099841?s=20

    The New World Order is pretty cool.

  209. Oh come on

    Kamahl was a king of Siam?

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’ve been away from the internet today. Did did I miss anything?

    Grigs said “realistically” a lot to try and sound knowledgeable, there was a fantastic new troll called Iampeter lighting up the Korea thread, he’s much better and more intelligent than Grigs in every possible way, and Custard posted photos of himself Full MAGA.

  211. OneWorldGovernment

    How anyone can think that Trump is upsetting “free trade” with the EU has obviously never looked at their rules and regulations.

  212. nemkat

    One Wally Curran, and the fiercely militant Meatworkers Union, had a great deal to do with the origin of live exports.

    Then how come no one’s ever heard of him?
    Here’s the reality:
    Fat, hungry cockies in W.A. worship money, and don’t care where it comes from, or how much it damages the National interest.

  213. Entropy

    Banning live exports isn’t just about sheep, it will put almost every northern Australian pastoralist out of business, with flow on effects through the rest of the sector. They are geared to produce young cattle for the trade, not the type for our meatworks. It is more than a few WA shepherds that would be hurt, Dimkat.

  214. John Constantine

    Small scale meatworks in containers on the back of trucks are rumoured to be at approval stages, and will be greeted by niche and speciality marketing schemes.

    The idea of cutting out the stress and hassles of transporting and saleyarding and big meatworking is a goodone for animal and owner and consumer, but you can suspect it will be a compliance nightmare.

    http://bcmeatworks.com/

    This is what I would like, but in Australia what are the chances.

  215. Infidel Tiger

    Obese slob Paul Murray trying to do geopolitics is farcical.

    Any man appearing on national TV not wearing a tie should be shot.

  216. Tom

    JC, you need to ask wifey why she’s addicted to people telling her lies. And whether she thinks people addicted to telling them lies should be allowed to vote.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    Apparently, he’s been awake for 25 hours; he was more in command of the details than Obama after a nap.

    Obama after a nap had an equal command of the detail as Obama during a nap.

  218. Stimpson J. Cat

    How anyone can think that Trump is upsetting “free trade” with the EU has obviously never looked at their rules and regulations.

    There is no EU.
    There is only a disgusting degenerate Belgian criminal cabal attempting to rule the world through paperwork.

  219. Snoopy

    This music video has Nigerian moozleys feeling all hurty and stabby. And no, it’s not the simulated beheading that upsets them the most. It’s the hawt hijab dancers!

  220. Rae

    Stimp the Gimp.

    I would not be at all surprised to find that Grigs, as you call him, never did say “realistically”. Ever.

  221. JC

    Tom
    She told me the writers write really well and the food section is second to none.

    I’m still considering a ban.

  222. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2735384, posted on June 12, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    I’ve been away from the internet today. Did did I miss anything?

    Prince George shot all the other kids at playgroup.
    Self defence.
    They knicked his salt and vinegar chips and Mars bars.

  223. C.L.

    Alleged victim of Tom Ballard comes forward, cites #MeToo.

    The report ends with …

    The ABC said it would not make further comment on the matter.

    That’s odd. When a supposed victim of George Pell emerged, they put him on the 7.30 Report.

  224. Infidel Tiger

    FMD

    I just found out Wifey has had a subscription to the NYTImes for years. I never looked at her side of the credit card statement until earlier today as the subscription caught my eye. Something sinister.

    This is just unacceptable.

    I’d be less upset if I found out she was banging the pool boy.

  225. Gab

    Obama Records Missing At National Archives.

    Probably in some trunk hidden beneath Fort Knox, along with his real birth certificate and his Uni transcripts.

  226. JC

    Any man appearing on national TV not wearing a tie should be shot.

    Don’t be silly, he can’t wear a tie as his neck is too fat.

  227. OneWorldGovernment

    John Constantine and ZK2A

    It would be interesting to run the numbers on setting up Australian ‘share’ owned abbotoirs in places like Malaysia, Philippines and Thailand and exporting live sheep and cattle direct for processing in those countries.

  228. C.L.

    I’ve been away from the internet today. Did did I miss anything?

    You won’t believe this but people attacked each other and made outrageous claims.

  229. cohenite

    Once again technically, selling castrated male sheep to buy young female cattle is the go on the back of an envelope, but you have to be psychologically capable of running the demanding, fence smashing, hungry gutted man hating beasts. Like having a paddock full of mamma mia journalists, only the daily weight gains aren’t as assured.

    You’re a pleasure to read John.

  230. Gab

    You’re a saint, JC. How you put up with that lefty wife of yours! A saint! 😀

  231. Confused Old Misfit

    These places are regulated, hygienic, and humane. And they employ Australians.

    You just keep on keeping on believing that.
    The regulation, if not captured, is in some cases sketchy. Humane? Best you read up on halal slaughter methods or, for that matter, kosher slaughter methods.
    As to those employed, very often ME immigrants/refugees with their well known sensitivity towards the animal kingdom. And some of our fine upstanding young Australian wranglers have been known to mistreat the occasional recalcitrant beast.

  232. Leigh Lowe

    I just found out Wifey has had a subscription to the NYTImes for years. I never looked at her side of the credit card statement until earlier today as the subscription caught my eye. 

    Just serve the Family Court papers.
    There’s no coming back from this.

  233. nemkat

    Big cattle company tried to solve australias meatworks hassles by drowning them with money.

    failed.
    AACO are a dog of a company, though.
    They were going to vertically integrate about 15 years ago with Peter Holmes a’Court, that was a fizzer too.
    That’s got nothing to do with processing sheep in Australia, though.

  234. Leigh Lowe

    No … scratch that.
    Divorce is not enough.
    A secret NYT subscription is in honour killing territory.

  235. egg_

    Small scale meatworks in containers on the back of trucks

    Robot meatworkers?

  236. vr

    I just found out Wifey has had a subscription to the NYTImes for years. I never looked at her side of the credit card statement until earlier today as the subscription caught my eye. Something sinister.

    You should tell her to empty the cache/clear history so you never have to pay nyt subscription again.

  237. Makka

    So many young minds are going to discover music from yesterday…. and go wow! And they will compare it to the musical charts today… and wonder, WTF is going on!

    It’s happening, Steve. So many young people cannot get over the harmonies of the 60’s and the quality of 70’s rock , soul, blues and country music. It’s like they’ve discovered a new art form.

  238. JC

    Just serve the Family Court papers.
    There’s no coming back from this.

    It would be unique even for the family court.

    Irreconcilable differences due to the spouse’s underhanded subscription to the New York Times.

  239. Stimpson J. Cat

    I never looked at her side of the credit card statement until earlier today

    You are a f$cking innocent in the ways of the world JC.
    I bet The Guardian and Time are in there somewhere.

  240. urb

    Just serve the Family Court papers.
    There’s no coming back from this.

    Who’s gunna iron the jeans then?

  241. C.L.

    As long as Wifey’s shoe spending is less than Gab’s, that’s the main thing.

  242. Entropy

    egg_
    #2735424, posted on June 12, 2018 at 9:13 pm
    Small scale meatworks in containers on the back of trucks

    Robot meatworkers?

    I wish them well. No doubt an Animals Australia and get up campaign well funded by the MUA would sort them out though.

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