Wednesday Forum: June 13, 2018

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  1. H B Bear

    Cricket Australia to end 80 years of tradition by excluding ABC from next round of radio rights

    Please let this be so. By the time Googles G has finished the ALPBC will be a multi-channel broadcaster of State sponsored homosexual comedians (the funny in Melbourne type).

    It does mean having to listen to either Tim Lane or the supercilious wanker Gerard Whateley again though.

  2. DrBeauGan

    It is no wonder that for decades nothing was done about the grooming gangs – because such goings on apparently appear to be endemic.

    Now that connection had never occurred to me, but it explains a lot. How anxious would a cop be to chase down peedos knowing his bosses boss was one?

  3. egg_

    What we should be focussing on is the drip-drip of allegations against the SAS, etc. over the last couple of weeks, which seem to indicate a concerted effort by people in the ADF, in the political class, and in the media, against the SAS/ Commando Regiments.

    TheirABC at work.

  4. OldOzzie

    The U.S. Is In A Much Better Place After This North Korea Summit, Says … James Clapper

    Man alive. Clapper must have really hated Obama’s policy towards North Korea to feel obliged to choke back a year’s worth of Russiagate attacks on Trump and pat him on the back for the Kim summit. This is a guy, remember, who just put out a book insisting that not only did Russia meddle in the campaign on Trump’s behalf but that, as far as he can surmise, it was actually the difference in the election. He’s as hardcore anti-Trump as it gets. Yet here he is, favorably comparing POTUS to his old boss. It’s only one issue, granted, but it’s *the* foreign-policy issue right now and for the foreseeable future — thanks to Obama’s unwillingness to try to resolve it himself.

  5. Makka

    How anxious would a cop be to chase down peedos knowing his bosses boss was one?

    I know it’s supposedly fiction but there was a good cop series that deals with this exact scenario on Netflix – Hinterland.

  6. Mother Lode

    Shit like this gives ammo to the crusading SJW types and it needs to be called out.

    So they have had to reach back to 2007 to find a dickhead in the ADF – someone with a warped sense of humour. There is nothing about him actually committing war crimes, murdering, raping or pillaging.

    There are more dickheads, far more malign in the ABC cafeteria. Every hour of every day.

  7. OldOzzie

    AFR Editorial – Queensland Budget 2018: The once smart state that treats voters as dills

    Fresh from being returned to government in November 2017, Queensland Labor has officially given up on seriously paying down any debt, something it promised prior to the 2014 and 2017 elections. Instead, new Treasurer Jackie Trad is relying on higher debt, a raft of new taxes and a Lucky Country boost in royalties from coal – a fossil fuel Labor has denounced – to build more spending monuments in health and education. Already, the state Treasury bureaucrats have warned the Palaszczuk government that the music has stopped on its previous budget parlour trick of screwing higher dividends from its government businesses.

    Much of this temporary revenue is being directed to hiring more public servants, not just frontline workers such as doctors and nurses but back office pen-pushers as well. The accidental first Palaszczuk Labor government got elected in 2015 by campaigning against the abrasive Campbell Newman’s 14,000-strong public service reduction. Yet at 218,000 and counting, Queensland’s public service ranks have already swelled by almost 25,000 under Labor with no signs of abating. Ginning up employment numbers is good for Labor’s public sector union paymasters.

    And so, Queensland is now drowning in debt. Forecast to be $83 billion in gross debt by 2020, Queensland’s debt to gross-state product ratio is now up to 25 per cent. That might be less than, say, the Commonwealth’s debt. But it’s more hazardous for a state government with a much narrower tax base, greater exposure to volatile commodity prices and a big overhang of unsold apartments. The $3.3 billion in interest being paid on Queensland’s debt almost matches the $3.7 billion in coal royalties from higher global coal prices. Even then, the party that once represented blue collar workers can’t make up its mind on whether a massive new coal export mine to bring electricity to India is a good thing or not.

    Infrastructure playing catch-up

    In addition to the extra public servants and Labor spending monuments, Ms Trad announced a $45.8 billion capital works project over the next four years, including $11.6 billion this year. That includes projects like the Brisbane Cross River Rail, and the duplication of the M1 highway down to the Gold Coast. Transport infrastructure is indeed needed to catch up to the demands of an increased population. But, unlike in other states that got their act together, Queensland Labor has not figured out how to pay for this new kit, except by taking on debt in a budget that relies on resource royalties which, in turn, rely on high global coal and oil prices.

    Unlike the Victorian Kennett government in the 1990s, and the NSW Baird government, both sides of Queensland politics – led by former Labor Premier Anna Bligh and the LNP’s Mr Newman – have completely botched the chance to finance infrastructure growth by recycling the proceeds from the sale of mature public assets. Queensland governments no longer run state butchers’ shops. But they still own power plants, transmission lines, ports and water utilities. This stems from populist ideology on both the right and the left, along with opposition to exposing feather-bedded union industries to the discipline of market competition.

    That embeds a massive conflict of interest for politicians wanting to milk government businesses to finance runaway spending and to hold down costs for Queensland households and businesses. Yet, as pollster John Scales told The Australian Financial Review’s National Infrastructure Summit last month, if pressed on the options, Queensland voters say they would rather finance increased infrastructure spending through privatisation than by higher taxes or increased debt. Instead, Ms Trad’s answer is to levy a bunch of new taxes formerly the preserve of the federal government. A new luxury car tax for vehicles over $100,000, a downright weird tax on online gambling not based in Queensland, a higher foreign investment tax, as well as a new waste levy. Queensland used to pride itself as a low-tax state or even a “smart state”. Now it is becoming a high-taxing state whose political leaders treat its voters as dills.

  8. Leigh Lowe

    It does mean having to listen to either Tim Lane or the supercilious wanker Gerard Whateley again though.

    I think Tim Lane is now at 3AW.
    He was Mr Pure-as-Driven-Snow when at the ABC, turning his nose up at the hint of anything commercial.
    It gives me a perverse pleasure to now hear him have to call the “Pancake Parlour goal of the day” twice every quarter. Having a divorce settlement in your 50’s will do that I guess.
    ABC cricket has been on life support for years. Allan McGillvray died and they cloned him and called the offcut Jim Maxwell.
    Kerry O’Keefe brought a bit of life to it for a while but they quickly reverted to type and replaced him with Colonel Kate.

  9. A Lurker

    Now that connection had never occurred to me, but it explains a lot. How anxious would a cop be to chase down peedos knowing his bosses boss was one?

    In Australia the media spotlight has been firmly trained on a certain Cardinal and the RCChurch – I wonder if the bright spotlight was aimed such in order for cockroaches in other organisations and institutions to be able to carry on unnoticed, or allow them to skitter away into the deeper darkness.

    Given that Britain is so corrupted, I’d lay an even bet that similar corruption lies at the heart of Australian institutions. Begs the question – if so, what can be done about it?

  10. Anne

    You’re welcome, Bear. It’s hard to grasp. I’ve only just woken up myself.

    Most people still believe that our Governments are chosen by and beholden to the governed. They’re not. Every nation’s political candidates, all “parties”, are chosen by Globalist Controllers like the CFR and the Trilateral Commission to further their goals.

    Merkel may be Hit-ler’s daughter but she’s only Chancellor of Germany because the Cabal put her there. They do love their bloodlines though.

    North Korea was a wholly CIA controlled Nuclear Power that was meant to go rogue and nuke U.S. cities. Hillary would respond by sending millions of the best men to War to be slaughtered. They do love their mass sacrifices.

    You wonder why Kim Jong Un is so happy?

    He and his Country have been freed from their grip by Trump and the “White Hats”.

    Incredible times!

  11. OldOzzie

    JUDITH SLOAN
    It’s time to get real on GST distribution

    There is no doubt that the ­in­explicable, skew-whiff distribution of GST revenue is a hot-button topic in Western Australia.

    There would not be a man, woman or child in the west who ­regards receiving less than 30c in the dollar, as was the case until ­recently in that state, as equitable or defensible.

    Why should states that actively impede their economic development be rewarded for doing so? There was WA doing everything to facilitate a massive mining boom that has led to a huge expansion in exports, and yet when it came to receiving its fair share of GST revenue, the state was penalised year after year.

    Even this year, WA is receiving only 47c in the dollar.

    Now Bill Shorten realises that the GST is a politically sensitive topic in WA, but, as he does so often, he has fallen into the trap of trying to please the party he is ­addressing while failing to realise that others might be none too impressed by what he is saying.

    The thing about the GST distribution is that it’s a win-lose scenario — giving more to WA must involve giving less to the other states, particularly those that are typically overfunded: South Australia and Tasmania, in particular.

    (The Northern Territory is a special case, although the case for removing indigeneity as a factor partly determining the GST distribution is overwhelming; it should be handled separately.)

    As for the Labor leader’s idea that a floor of 70c in the dollar should apply, but only to WA, that is seriously silly. Will the 70c apply from next year? Why wouldn’t this floor apply to all states and terri­tories? If there is going to be floor (and perhaps there should be a cap too), it has to apply to everyone.

    There are just so many problems with the way the GST is distributed that it’s not clear that even a universally applicable floor would sort out all the problems.

    How is it possible that the revenue from gambling taxes is not included in the GST distribution formula?

    WA’s perfectly legitimate decision to limit pokie machines means the state has relatively little gambling tax revenue but is penalised for this in the distribution of GST. With the states now moving to impose different rates of tax on online gambling, this is an issue that has to be sorted out in the near future.

    Mind you, Shorten at least seems to be trying, with the proposed establishment of a Fair Share for WA Fund, the total of which is nearing $2 billion in commitments. The government, by contrast, has been faffing around waiting for the final report of the Productivity Commission on improving the GST distribution.

    Going by the draft report, however, there has really been no reason to wait. That report was very weak and tentative. Essentially, the PC couldn’t get too worked up by the topic because the size of GST moneys flowing to states is small relative to other federal transfers.

    There were a few suggested changes but none that would extinguish the political firestorm whose flames the GST distribution continues to fan in WA.

    It’s time to get real. The government should announce that the distribution of GST will move to a per capita basis — over a five-year timeframe, for instance — and in the short term the states that lose out would be partly compensated.

    When it comes to the principle of horizontal fiscal equalisation — all citizens should have access to broadly similar services — the federal government should make this happen with specific grants to the states and territories. This would add accountability to the system — the way the GST is distributed completely lacks accountability.

    South Australia and Tasmania should just suck it up; they both have had it too good for too long, at the expense of the other states.

    They may just lift their games as result.

  12. Rossini

    Still reading early comments re the flying of the flag yonks ago.
    A lot of unpleasant remarks re the person who displayed the flag.
    Trust they will say the same to him/her
    if they were under attack and said person came to their rescue.
    It was just a flag for fork sake!

  13. Rossini

    Baldrick
    #2736800, posted on June 14, 2018 at 12:16 pm
    I’ve never walked in those guys shoes. I’ve never had to do the things they’ve done to stay alive.
    Yes it was stupid, but I won’t judge them for a bit of shenanigans.

    +1

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Lane was involved in a well-publicised dispute with the Nine Network on the eve of the 2002 AFL season. Having been recruited to Nine’s AFL commentary team, Lane quit just days prior to the season’s commencement, claiming Nine had refused to honour a stipulation in his contract that Eddie McGuire would not commentate alongside him in matches involving the Collingwood Football Club. Lane held the view that McGuire’s role as Collingwood president put him in a conflict of interest, as his freedom to report matters regarding the club would be compromised by his requirement to keep certain inside knowledge confidential. Lane parted ways from Nine and took up a role on Network Ten’s AFL coverage in 2003, where he remained until Ten lost the rights at the end of 2011

    Conflict of interest, eh?
    About the same time Tim joined Channel Ten, his no-talent daughter Samantha turned up on “Before The Game” at Channel Ten and various casual gigs at the ABC.
    Completely above board selection and she just happened to beat off a field of candidates in a blind selection process … not.

  15. Stimpson J. Cat

    If I have to choose between our boys flying a Nazi flag or a Commie/Marxist/Socialist flag then I’ll take the Nazi flag anyday.
    No one flys a Nazi flag in the desert except in jest or homage to Rommel.
    Nazis will never again be a serious threat except in peoples minds.
    The numbers simply don’t lie.

    Commies, Marxists and Socialists however, ARE a very present serious worldwide threat for anyone who has been paying attention.

    It’s that simple.

  16. H B Bear

    LOL Queensland has never been “the Smart State”. That was just more bullshit spouted by the Smiling Apologist. At best they are big government populists that lurch crazily between the two branches of the UniParty with a handful of hereditary bumpkins thrown in for good measure.

  17. H B Bear

    LL nepotism like that has no place in commercial broadcasting. Save that stuff for the ALPBC staff co-op.

  18. thefrollickingmole

    My 2 bob on the flag.

    What crime was committed?

    What civilian crime was committed that needs resolution? (Answer, none)

    What military crime was committed and how do you resolve a 2007 case now? (answer, there is probably a few that could stick, but there is no way of or even desire to punish the offender now)

    In short is “the vibe”, I agree the bloke or blokes who did it were stupid/insensitive etc, but its something which can and should be dealt with at the time by their own superiors.

  19. struth

    Amen. I cannot comprehend how far the once-great Britain has fallen.
    It is no wonder that for decades nothing was done about the grooming gangs – because such goings on apparently appear to be endemic.

    We in Australia pay for disgusting crime and misery, through from rape and murder, to drug fuelled violence and insane degradation and disease through filth.
    It’s been happening for a good 50 years.
    Have paid for it and our authorities have known about it, and purposefully kept it going.
    They are called aboriginal communities.
    These war zones make the grooming gang stuff look like childs play, even though, of course, it’s horrific.
    The point being, again, is here we find ourselves tut- tutting England.
    We are taking more shit mussies than anyone else, and definitely them and definitely per percentage of population.

    But let’s all tut-tut England.

  20. Senile Old Guy

    If it is doctored, it has been done by someone with some knowledge and skill as the jpeg artefacts are at the same level in the flag as elsewhere in the image.

    Nor would the jpeg image processing algorithm do much with chrominance resolution over such a minuscule part of the image, especially in an ’07 camera.

    This must be an extreme crop from a larger image or taken with the worst camera made. My camera in 2007 was the K10D: 10 megapixels and weather sealed and it was only mid-range consumer. You would have to crop a tiny part of an image from the K10D, and then use some extreme jpeg compression, to get an image as poor as the one the ABC shows.

    If you do a google image search for “2007 image war afghanistan” you will get many pictures, all smaller in physical size (pixel dimensions) but of considerably better quality than the ABC jeep. It is all very, very dodgy. And, as noted by several, very, very convenient for the ABC narrative.

  21. DrBeauGan

    If you’re a loony lefty loser, you think that one nazi flag in Afghanistan in 2007 proves all ADF personnel are Nazis.

    This only goes to show the LLL really are potty.

  22. OldOzzie

    Move over, J. Edgar Hoover; Rod Rosenstein is an even greater threat to the Constitution – By Charles Hurt – The Washington Times – Wednesday, June 13, 2018

    However bad you thought it was, it really is so much worse.

    However rotten and ungovernable you thought the federal swamp was, it really is so much worse.

    Indeed, it will take a hundred Donald Trumps to carve out all the cancer riddling this federal government.

    Behold, Rod Rosenstein, the very face of the swamp Leviathan.

    Geeky and bespectacled, he is the cancer that even America’s Founders could not imagine when they crafted a set of checks and balances designed to temper even the most monstrous of human nature.

    Mr. Rosenstein, one of the most powerful men in the Department of Justice, threatened to investigate members of Congress and their staff if Congress continued to fulfill its constitutional responsibility to oversee the increasingly rogue federal department.

    Move over J. Edgar Hoover. Rod Rosenstein has officially taken your place as the most power-drunk, nefarious, crooked blight on justice to ever preside in the Department of “justice.”

    The popularity of Congress may be in the toilet, but self-dealing rogue prosecutors with unlimited power to punish political opponents and put people in jail are so far down the toilet they are fertilizing daisies in Denmark.

    In a statement to Fox News, a DOJ official denied that Mr. Rosenstein threatened Congress in a bizarre statement — that confirmed Mr. Rosenstein did precisely that.

    “The Deputy Attorney General was making the point — after being threatened with contempt — that as an American citizen charged with the offense of contempt of Congress, he would have the right to defend himself, including requesting production of relevant emails and text messages and calling them as witnesses to demonstrate that their allegations are false,” the official said.

    After admitting Mr. Rosenstein threatened Congress for overseeing his department, the DOJ official went on to reiterate that the threat remains.

    “That is why he put them on notice to retain relevant emails and text messages and he hopes they did so,” the official’s statement said.

    Are you freaking kidding me?

    Who does this lunatic think he is? What kind of country does he think he lives in? Who does this a-hole think is paying his salary?

    Ex-Attorney General Eric Holder was an ideological crusader and political thug, hell-bent on maximizing the power of the president for whom he worked. Mr. Holder was never elected anything, but he was working for a guy who did get elected. Twice.

    Mr. Rosenstein is a thousand times worse and so much more dangerous. He never got elected anything — and he is blatantly giving the middle finger to anyone elected by the people to oversee him and his increasingly lawless department.

    Mr. Rosenstein believes he is — literally — above the law. He is answerable to no one. Legal accountability is beneath him. The public be damned.

  23. That photo Calli linked to above of ‘transgender’ ADF personnel at some roundtable is gobsmacking. I have seen it before but its ridiculous does not diminish.

  24. Snoopy

    VW is an anagram of the Nazi symbol. Think about what that means.

    Mercedes Benz adopted the peace symbol as their emblem. I don’t trust them.

  25. Bruce in WA

    From the OZ — paywalled so reproduced in full. Personally, I say “about bloody time”. And the Mocker — whom I suspect from his writing style may be a Cat — gives red bandanna-man a couple of choice kicks in the slats along the way.

    Yet another Ned Kelly film? The so-called True History of the Kelly Gang, based on the novel of the same name by Peter Carey, is in production. No doubt you already know the story of Australia’s favourite son. Harassed by the colonial police, this heroic Irish-Australian was a nineteenth-century Robin Hood who fought against the British oppressors and the greedy banks. He used lethal force, but only against those who would have killed him first. A champion of Victoria’s downtrodden selectors, ‘Our Ned’ personified mateship, egalitarianism, and the larrikin streak. Right?

    Wrong. Contrary to the apologist tosh you will read in many of the numerous Kelly biographies, he was a ruthless, self-aggrandising murderer and a parasite who stole from both rich and poor. Like many a narcissist, he had an entrenched sense of entitlement and victimhood, and was a pathological liar. To write admiringly of this cop-killer is to sully the reputations of the three brave officers who the Kelly Gang murdered at Stringybark Creek in 1878 — Sergeant Michael Kennedy, Constable Michael Scanlan, and Constable Thomas Lonigan.

    One of those who was never taken by the legend is filmmaker Ben Head. As a child, he often wondered why we idolised Kelly. Now the 19-year-old Victorian College of the Arts student is producing a short film Stringybark, which is based on the perspective of the three murdered officers and the sole survivor, Constable Thomas McIntyre. Unlike the other films portraying Kelly, Head’s will be adhering to the facts as uncovered by research.

    Filming will begin in late September, and already the project has attracted much support. Only a day after Fairfax ran an article this month about the proposed production and Head’s appeal for crowd funding he secured an additional $10,000, and is close to his target of $21,000. He intends using the short film of around 35 minutes to request agencies such as Screen Australia to provide funding for a full length movie.

    Could the surge in donations for Head’s film be a sign many Australians are cheesed-off with the mythologising of Kelly? Head certainly is encouraged. “The response I’ve received so far is astounding,” the young writer and director told me this week. As someone who has read widely about the Kelly saga and deplores the partisan history, I am pleased to hear that. Head’s project has already upset the keepers of the Kelly flame, who become outraged when someone besmirches their idol.

    So just to stir them up a little more — and for the benefit of those who were taught the romanticised version of the Kelly history — I will scrutinise some of the popular accounts.

    The catalyst for the formation of the Kelly Gang was the outlaw’s attempted murder of Constable Alexander Fitzpatrick in April 1878. Fitzpatrick had gone to the Kelly household alone — a foolhardy act — to arrest the outlaw’s younger brother Dan. You were probably taught Fitzpatrick made sexual advances towards Kelly’s 15 year old sister, Kate, and that his shooting was an act of reprisal. But when a journalist put this rumour to Kelly through his lawyer after his capture in 1880. Kelly strongly denied Fitzpatrick had acted so, saying it was a “foolish story”.

    Kelly’s mother, Ellen, who joined in the attack and was later tried, was sentenced to three years imprisonment. The judge who presided at her trial, Sir Redmond Barry, was the same one who later sentenced Kelly to be hanged. In his gushing biography Ned Kelly: The Story of Australia’s Most Notorious Legend, Peter FitzSimons repeats the popular account that Barry said to Ellen “If your son Ned was standing by you in the dock I would give him 21 years.” If said, this would be a sound argument that Barry should not have presided at Kelly’s trial due to apprehended bias. In all likelihood, it was made up. Ellen’s trial attracted considerable press coverage, yet not one of the newspapers made mention of Barry’s purported remark.

    In October 1878 a police party of four led by Sergeant Kennedy was tasked with capturing the Kelly brothers. Making camp at Stringybark, McIntyre and Lonigan stayed there while Kennedy and Scanlan went off searching. The gang ambushed the camp, killing Lonigan and capturing McIntyre. When the other two officers returned hours later, the gang fired on them, killing Scanlan. McIntyre escaped during the firefight.

    As for Kennedy, the circumstances of his death are unclear. Popular account has it he was mortally wounded in combat, and that a merciful Kelly administered the coup de grâce. The likelihood of what really happened is far more chilling.

    In the period between the ambushes at Stringybark and the discovery of Kennedy’s body days later, a friend of Kelly, Isaiah Wright, publicly declared his belief the outlaw would torture Kennedy. When the body was found, the right ear of the corpse was detached. FitzSimons declares definitively “The parts of Kennedy that are missing have been nibbled off by animals.”

    How could he be sure? The Argus reported in June 1880 rumours in the district that “Kennedy was but wounded on the day of the encounter, and was allowed to live all night, so that the gang might learn from him how to work his Spencer rifle. On the following morning Ned Kelly shot him through the breast.” The horrific possibility that Kennedy was tortured cannot be discounted.

    But were not the shootings at Stringybark justified on the basis the police intended not to capture the Kelly brothers, but to kill them? The Kelly apologists stridently assert this was a police vendetta, but there is no credible evidence to support this argument. Kennedy, a father of five, was an honest and decent man with an impeccable record. The fact that police were armed with a borrowed rifle and extra ammunition is often mentioned to imply sinister motives, but their actions made perfect sense. If you were preparing to defend yourself against armed felons who had shot a police officer, you would be a fool to rely solely on a revolver.

    According to FitzSimons, the police party provisions included “two long leather straps, specifically designed and made by the Mansfield saddler Charles Boles so that a pair of dead bodies could be easily suspended from them”. Yet there is no contemporary record of this supposed acquisition. Dr Robert Haldane, a historian and former Victoria police superintendent states “This fanciful notion often cited to support the idea that the police were ‘trigger happy’ and ‘ready to use their guns’, thereby justifying a pre-emptive attack by the Kellys, is mere supposition based on hearsay that first surfaced well into the 20th century.” What cannot be disputed is that the police party were carrying handcuffs at the time they were ambushed. Does that not indicate the police’s intention to bring back live bodies?

    In the 1881 Royal Commission into the Victoria Police, a witness, Patrick Quin, gave evidence of a conversation he had with Kelly around the time of the Fitzpatrick affair. Quin urged Kelly to give himself up to police, but the latter replied “No; if any man interferes with me I will shoot him.” This is clear and first-hand evidence that Kelly, six months prior to the Stringybark massacre, was prepared to kill to avoid arrest. How often do you see the pro-Kelly authors addressing this or even mentioning it for that matter?

    There is also the theory the actions of the Kelly should be mitigated or even excused in the context of British oppression of the Irish. If you think so, consider this. Justice Barry was Irish-born, as were all four police at Stringybark. Two of them, Kennedy and Scanlan, were Catholics, as was Kelly. At the time of Kelly’s death two Irish-born Catholics, John O’Shanassy and Charles Gavan Duffy, had served as Premier of Victoria.

    Another furphy is the assertion that more than 32,000 Victorians signed a petition demanding clemency for Kelly. The Sydney Morning Herald noted of the petitions “they were signed principally in pencil and by illiterate people, whilst whole pages were evidently written by one person”. Lastly, the royal commission — while censorious of police incompetence in the Kelly affair — found “no evidence had been adduced to support the allegation that either the outlaws or their friends were subjected to persecution or unnecessary annoyance at the hands of the police”.

    As for Head, more power to him for being sceptical of the Kelly orthodoxy and telling the story from the perspective of the fallen officers. In time, his biggest challenge could well be refuting all the Kelly myths in one feature film, for there is so much misinformation and outright falsehoods. The outlaw’s apologists and devotees will be apoplectic with anger, but they should learn to temper this with Kelly’s apocryphal gallows lament “Such is life”.

    THE MOCKER
    @Oz_Mocker
    The Mocker amuses himself by calling out poseurs, sneering social commentators, and po-faced officials. He is deeply suspicious of those who seek increased regulation of speech and behaviour. Believing that journalism is dominated by idealists and activists, he likes to provide a realist’s perspective of politics and current affairs.

  26. cohenite

    This is typical of the media bullshit about Trump which vomited out by the trolls here and elsewhere:

    President Donald Trump was furious when it surfaced in April that the FBI had raided properties of Michael Cohen, his longtime lawyer. Soon after, people in Trump’s orbit began discussing the possibility that Cohen would flip.

    They were worried, experts said, because as Trump’s lawyer and a member of his innermost circle, Cohen could do a lot of damage if he were backed into a corner.

    Now, it looks as if he just might be.

    ABC News reported on Wednesday that Cohen may be poised to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York after his lawyers stopped representing him in the Manhattan US attorney’s investigation. That case focuses on whether Cohen committed bank fraud, wire fraud, or campaign-finance violations related to his work for Trump and his payment to the adult-film actress Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 presidential election.

    CNN later said Cohen had found a new lawyer, but the outlet didn’t have a name to report. A source told CNN that Cohen hadn’t met with prosecutors to try to cut a deal and that it was unclear whether he was trying to turn on Trump. NBC News’ Katy Tur also reported that Cohen expected to be arrested soon.

    Patrick Cotter, a longtime former federal prosecutor who has worked with members of the special counsel Robert Mueller’s team, said it was likely that Cohen’s initial lawyers split because he raised the possibility of cooperating with prosecutors amid his mounting legal troubles.

    “There are a lot of defence lawyers who don’t want to be associated with a client who cooperates because it hurts their reputation,” Cotter said. “So it’s entirely likely they pulled out of representing him and told him to find a new defence lawyer who will work with him to strike a deal.”

    ‘The damage Cohen can do is far greater than everybody else combined’

    There is no one else and everything in bold is complete speculation.

  27. Senile Old Guy

    (The Northern Territory is a special case, although the case for removing indigeneity as a factor partly determining the GST distribution is overwhelming; it should be handled separately.)

    And because some financially important decisions can be overturned by Canberra and because 40% of the NT is controlled by Aboriginal Land Councils:

    Since they were first established, Aboriginal land councils have won back almost half of the land mass of the Northern Territory and 85 percent of the coastline of traditional Aboriginal land owners. Significant areas of Aboriginal land have been opened up for development through agreements with Aboriginal peoples.

    Yes, deals do allow development but frequently take a long time to resolve, if ever. The Kenbi claim took 37 years.

    It’s time to get real. The government should announce that the distribution of GST will move to a per capita basis — over a five-year timeframe, for instance — and in the short term the states that lose out would be partly compensated.

    How does that work for the NT when 40% of the area requires lengthy negotiations with title holders. Even then, the situation in Queensland, with the Adani mine, shows that (mostly inner city) environmentalists will use every trick to delay and derail?

  28. areff

    Consistently inconsistent, our ABC.

    Their website is running a story about Portugese authorities bring in goats by the rent-a-herd to eat the thick ground storey that made last year’s bushfires the disaster they were.

    Funny that. When Victoria’s mountain cattlemen argued, correctly, that cattle did the same thing here, they were relentless decried and derided by the ABC’s chosen “experts”.

    Of course cattle are now banned and, of course, the mountains are going to burn like buggary.

  29. Mater

    Yes it was stupid, but I won’t judge them for a bit of shenanigans.

    A fair and reasonable point.
    However, shenanigans usually involves doing something stupid with items close at hand. Who the f–k carries a Nazi flag around with them? Personally I had better (more useful) things to weigh my pack down with. Clearly premeditated stupidity.
    On the upside, being bright red, it may having given the A-10 and Apache drivers some pause for thought prior to ‘brassing them up’ accidentally.

  30. Bruce in WA

    Good stuff! Should have been even less.

    Rebel Wilson’s record $4.5m defamation payment has been slashed to $600,000 after Bauer Media had a major victory in its appeal against the amount of the damages award.

    The company had appealed against a Supreme Court of Victoria order that the Pitch Perfect star be compensated a record $650,000 in general damages and $3,917,472 in special damages.

    It came after the company was found to have defamed the 38-year-old star in a series of articles published in 2015 that painted her as a serial liar about her age, real name and childhood in order to make it in Hollywood.

    The Court of Appeal handed down its judgment in Melbourne this morning; Wilson was not present in court for the ruling.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wrong. Contrary to the apologist tosh you will read in many of the numerous Kelly biographies, he was a ruthless, self-aggrandising murderer and a parasite who stole from both rich and poor. Like many a narcissist, he had an entrenched sense of entitlement and victimhood, and was a pathological liar.

    Does this mean the end of the “Ned Kelly” beard as a nationalistic statement?

  32. notafan

    Stringybark is about the only Kelly film I would consider seeing

    If bandanna man is on the bandwagon you know it is a fabrication.

  33. Snoopy

    Rebel Wilson’s record $4.5m defamation payment has been slashed to $600,000 after Bauer Media had a major victory in its appeal against the amount of the damages award.

    That’s about $5000 per kilo.

  34. H B Bear

    Their website is running a story about Portugese authorities bring in goats by the rent-a-herd to eat the thick ground storey that made last year’s bushfires the disaster they were.

    This will be great news for the goat molesting rent-a-herd already on the ground in Eurabia.

  35. Senile Old Guy

    ABC:

    The real Aboriginal ‘Dreamtime’ to be highlighted in Dream Mine Time art exhibition

    …which should really be…

    The “real” Aboriginal ‘Dreamtime’ to be highlighted in Dream Mine Time art exhibition

    When white anthropologists began studying Aboriginal culture, they came up with the term “Dreamtime” to describe the mythology and history of Indigenous Australians. But they couldn’t have been more wrong. What they were trying to define is too complex a concept, considered almost impossible to be captured by a single word in the English language. For Curtis Taylor, a Martu artist from the Western Desert of Western Australia, his people call it “Marngunyi” or “Jukurrpa”. “Everybody has their own interpretations … and I have mine,” he said. “For me Marngunyi means that time before — so a time when a lot of information, knowledge, songs and stories were stored that’s unchanged … but still to this day added onto.

    …but, but, but, it’s there history!

    While each artist’s portrayal of dreaming varies, their work demonstrates a common desire to continue their ancestors’ traditions. For Gabriel Nodea, whose own dreams have revealed new details in ancient stories told to his ancestors, it was about balancing the old and the new.

    How do you get “new details” in “ancient stories” unless you are inventing and adding them?

    “I try and make a picture more clear to the knowledge they [ancestors] share — but it [dreaming] changes a lot,” he said.

    Yeah, oral it is, history it is not.

  36. Zatara

    In Australia the media spotlight has been firmly trained on a certain Cardinal and the RCChurch – I wonder if the bright spotlight was aimed such in order for cockroaches in other organisations and institutions to be able to carry on unnoticed, or allow them to skitter away into the deeper darkness.

    Other institutions like the English Boys School system where homosexual rape and even gang-rape was just all part of the education experience? In his autobiography John Peel, the UK Home Secretary, describes how he was raped in school for crying out loud! There are hundreds of examples in literature of it happening. How is it that what is so obvious is ignored?

    If the RC into child sexual abuse was to have validity other than as a mace to swing at the Catholic Church it would have looked into all areas where children are habitually exposed to potential sexual predators. Schools, ‘cultures’, clubs, youth organizations, etc. But the RC chose to play to public prejudice and attack those evil Catholics exclusively instead.

    Yes, some individual Catholics unquestionably committed sexual abuse and yes, the Church did very poorly at dealing with it. So how well have the other organizations/institutions where we KNOW sexual abuse is an issue dealt with it? An RC that wasn’t designed specifically to do as much damage as possible to the Catholic Church might have told us that. But there won’t be any more introspection and investigation because the scapegoat has been found and crucified.

    The howling mob has been fed a boogyman and all their prejudices against Cathlolics are confirmed by no less than an RC.

  37. Stimpson J. Cat

    Jordan B Peterson
    @jordanbpeterson
    Immigrants and Their Children Use Less Welfare than Third-and-Higher Generation Americans
    (Posts Cato Institute graph. )

    Faith J Goldy ☩ 🍁
    @FaithGoldy
    Spicy take! Now try breaking it down by ethnicity. Add comparison with illegals for extra edge.

  38. egg_

    This must be an extreme crop from a larger image

    +1

    Even the larger image in the article is not of the highest resolution, but chrominance is not of the highest order in jpeg compression, anyway, if people are judging the flag’s colour from a few cropped pixel samples (likely 4:2:0) within a block of the original image.

  39. Chris

    But the RC chose to play to public prejudice and attack those evil Catholics exclusively instead.

    Fair suck. The RC did not choose. The RC had terms of reference written by the Gillard government, those well-known advocates for climate justice. and for strong public investment in welfare payments.

  40. Anne

    Stimpy, CommunismNazism and Islam are all Totalitarian systems of Slavery.

    They have all been designed for the same purpose; To deliver Universal Power to one Ruler over all Humanity.

    Every bit of fluff and differentiation is intended to distract you from that fact.

    They are all the same.

  41. Makka

    Heartwarming story;

    The salary of Australia’s top paid public servant will near $900,000 a year after a new round of pay rises for the federal government’s most senior bureaucrats.

    Salaries of public service bosses will grow by up to $17,500 in a round of pay hikes coinciding with warnings of continuing sluggish national wage growth.

  42. Farmer Gez

    Kelly was theif and a murderer but Mocker needs to explain the widespread support he enjoyed at the time.
    Far too black and white for my liking. History is never so clear cut.

  43. OldOzzie

    The other collusion – Washington Times Editorial

    ANALYSIS/OPINION:

    There are two sides to every coin and maybe that goes for the Russian collusion epic, too. So far we’ve seen only one side of that coin. The Mueller investigation goes merrily along trying to find evidence that Donald Trump conspired with Moscow malefactors to put the 2016 presidential election on ice.

    The Justice Department will soon release the results of the department’s investigation into the Clinton email scandal, and it promises to provide at least a hint of what lies on the other side of the coin. If the department’s Democratic partisans are found to have bent the law into a shape they thought would preserve Hillary’s electability, it would be only fair to go deeper to see whether there was Justice Department collusion with Hillary Clinton. Everyone who owes a debt to the piper must pay up

    The fiasco has lifted the lid on malevolent characters within officialdom, those now called “the deep state,” attempting to substitute their own choice for the choice of the American people. It has metastasized into Robert Mueller’s desperate search for evidence of Trump collusion with Russia. So far it appears that Mr. Mueller would have had better luck looking for the Loch Ness Monster in the Washington swamp where so many strange critters prosper.

    Mr. Mueller’s search for wrongdoing has turned up evidence of collusion, but not by Donald Trump. Accounts of such evidence, some of it leaked to reporters who were trusted to put the right spin on it, have revealed among other things that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign paid for the discredited dossier that told of all manner of naughty indiscretions of the president. The dossier was important to getting authorization by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to spy on Mr. Trump’s associates. When truth will out, as it usually does, the evidence might show that Hillary, not the Donald, was the villain

    There will be no final conclusion to the collusion narrative until the Clinton associates and their hidden assets in the Obama administration get the same hard scrutiny to which Mr. Trump has been subjected. Allowing the rest of the story to be swept under a rug of deceit, obfuscation and calumny would confirm suspicions that the rule of law, the coin of American liberty, was squandered.

  44. Stimpson J. Cat

    They are all the same.

    Yes yes Annie settle down Jesus Christ.
    Don’t go all in on everything you read online.
    Just because you want something to be true doesn’t mean it necessarily is.
    Maintain healthy distance in your mind from the things you read and see.
    Trust me on this.

  45. zyconoclast

    And I thought getting paid the agreed pay rate would be enough.

    Baby boomer Bosses need to change their management style for millennials if they want to keep their future employees engaged, say work experts, who argue the era of the authoritarian office leader is nearing an end.

    “[Millennials] are looking for more sense of happiness, more sense of connectedness, a stronger sense of meaning and contributing something positive to the world,” Mr Hougaard said.

  46. zyconoclast

    More than half of all non-citizen children and teens in the United States are receiving taxpayer-funded welfare, mostly Medicaid, while nearly half of all non-citizen adults legally in the country are on welfare, according to a new report.

    By comparison, 32 percent of the U.S. born population of 270 million receive some welfare. Of those, 45.8 percent are children and teens, 30 percent are aged 18-54 and 22.5 percent are age 55 and older.

  47. Anne

    This is big. And proof that courage is contagious.

    U.S. Representative Paul Gosar makes this Statement regarding Tommy Robinson.

    “Mr Speaker, I rise for the following purpose.

    I want to share my concern about the arrest and conviction of Tommy Robinson in Great Britain. I am well aware that England does not share our free speech values and does not have the equivalent of a First Amendment. Indeed the restrictive practices of England lead directly to the birth of this great nation and the freedom we enjoy here.

    Mr Robinson, a British activist and journalist, was arrested for simply filming outside a public courtroom, and was sentenced to 13 months for this “crime”. His real crime is not taking pictures; his real crime is his refusal to agree to the government’s efforts to cover up crimes by Muslim gangs who are raping British girls, almost with impunity, and with little apparent regard by the British government.

    If this act violated a term of probation, it would mean the court system in England is a key part of the problem, covering up for criminals by imposing gag orders as terms of probation.

    Dissent is patriotic when the ruling class are illegitimate and oppressive. The ruling class in England appears fearful of the truth. When it bans discussion and when it criminalises the truth, any such government can fairly be labelled as both oppressive and tyrannical. I object to the suppression of the truth.

    England has a proud history and America is its progeny, but it needs to take back its liberty and freedom. “It’s all for nothing if you don’t have freedom.” Braveheart (1995)”

  48. zyconoclast

    RICHMOND, Va. – Gov. Terry McAuliffe’s action restoring the voting rights of more than 200,000 felons was unconstitutional, Virginia’s highest court ruled Friday, siding with Republican lawmakers who said the governor overstepped his authority.

    In a 4-3 decision, the Supreme Court of Virginia ordered the state to cancel the registration of the more than 11,000 felons who had signed up to vote so far under the governor’s April executive order. Top Republicans called it “a major victory for the Constitution, the rule of law and the Commonwealth of Virginia.”

    I think the ALP favours giving prisoners the vote in Australia.

  49. Mother Lode

    with the proposed establishment of a Fair Share for WA Fund,

    The Laybah Party uses ‘Fair’ in exactly the same way communist dictatorships (is there any other kind?) us the word ‘Peoples’.

    The wait for them to start pushing to rename our nation ‘The Fair Democratic Republic of Australia’.

  50. max

    Didn’t Kelly receive an award for bravely rescuing a young boy caught in floodwaters before he turned to a life of crime ? Guess they’ll leave that bit out.

  51. zyconoclast

    Julius Malema says he has not called for the murder of white people, “at least for now.”

    In an interview with TRT World, published on Monday, Malema said he could not guarantee what would happen in the future, and warned that a revolution would happen if things continued as they are now.

    “I’m saying to you, we’ve not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. I can’t guarantee the future.”

    Asked by the presenter if he understood that to some this might sound like a “genocidal call”, Malema responded, “Cry babies, cry babies!”

    “I can’t give you a guarantee of the future,” he repeated. “Especially when things are going the way they are.

    “If things are going the way they are, there will be a revolution in this country. I can tell you now. There will be an unled revolution in this country, and an unled revolution is the highest form of anarchy,” Malema said.

  52. Bruce in WA

    “[Millennials] are looking for more sense of happiness, more sense of connectedness, a stronger sense of meaning and contributing something positive to the world,” Mr Hougaard said.

    I prefer the incentive scheme we had — do your job and you’ll keep it.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    And I thought getting paid the agreed pay rate would be enough.

    Baby boomer Bosses need to change their management style for millennials if they want to keep their future employees engaged, say work experts, who argue the era of the authoritarian office leader is nearing an end.

    “[Millennials] are looking for more sense of happiness, more sense of connectedness, a stronger sense of meaning and contributing something positive to the world,” Mr Hougaard said.

    It’s time.
    This shit gets trotted out about once every five years.
    It was particularly bad just before the GFC, when large consulting firms were throwing “experiences” at new grads … induction week in London, going straight on to large client consultancies as 2-I-C and “being heard”, hip mid-week ‘conferences’.
    The GFC put an end to it.
    There was a weak revival via a few articles 4-5 years ago.
    The only managers who fall for it are wannabe ‘cool Dad’ Karl Stefanovic types.

  54. Des Deskperson

    Bombe John

    Following up our exchange from yesterday, I still haven’t been able to find out who sets the salaries and allowances fro the Remuneration Tribunal.

    There is no evidence that the Tribunal sets its own salary and allowances under the determination for part-time officers.

    The Tribunal is administered by the Australian Public Service Commission, part of the PM&C portfolio. It is a reasonable working assumption that Tribunal member salaries and allowances are set either by the Australian Public Service Commissioner or by the Head of PM&C.

    Such an arrangement would, of course, avoid any real or perceived conflicts of interests between the Tribunal’s role in setting remuneration for office holders and its own remuneration levels.

  55. zyconoclast

    Canadian judge rules child born to polyamorous trio has three parents

    “None of the partners in this relationship is married and, while the identity of the mother is clear, the biological father of the child is unknown,” wrote Fowler. The judge did not seem aware of the existence of paternity tests.

    The child “has been born into what is believed to be a stable and loving family relationship which, although outside the traditional family model, provides a safe and nurturing environment,” Fowler opined.

  56. John Constantine

    Percentage return on invested capital has seen corporate agricultural advisors tell the big managed funds buying farms to rent irrigation water rights instead of buying them, because the rent is so low it is below the interest cost of owning water.

    Weekly times online today mentions that permanent plantings need permanent water available.

    If water tightens up in the dry, then dairy herds and permanent plantings will need to fight for the dribbles of water at Big money.

    The corporate office will win, but at a big cost.

  57. Zatara

    Canadian judge rules child born to polyamorous trio has three parents

    The judge better hope he is old enough to be long gone before any of their wills go to probate.

    Because somebody is going to get their asses sued off.

  58. Des Deskperson

    ‘Didn’t Kelly receive an award for bravely rescuing a young boy caught in floodwaters before he turned to a life of crime ? Guess they’ll leave that bit out.’

    Maybe, but it is a matter of public record that he was gaoled in 1869 for seven weeks for assaulting and robbing a Chinese.

    By today’s standards, that’s a racist hate crime. I assume that ‘Emingway FitzSimons picked that up in his book.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce in WA

    #2736874, posted on June 14, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    Good stuff! Should have been even less.

    Rebel Wilson’s record $4.5m defamation payment has been slashed to $600,000 after Bauer Media had a major victory in its appeal against the amount of the damages award.

    Yeah, the magazines were arseholes and made shit up, but $4.5 meg was ridiculous.
    Even $600k is a bit toppy IMHO.

  60. Zatara

    New California law limits water allocation to 55 gallons per household.

    An eight-minute shower uses about 17 gallons of water, a load of laundry up to 40, and a bathtub can hold 80 to 100 gallons of water.

    “It’s now against the law to do laundry and shower on the same day in the Sunshine State”

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe, but it is a matter of public record that he was gaoled in 1869 for seven weeks for assaulting and robbing a Chinese.

    By today’s standards, that’s a racist hate crime. I assume that ‘Emingway FitzSimons picked that up in his book.

    Hmmm, well maybe.
    If the Chinaman was a market gardener, Bandana would represent it as “a wealthy local businessman taken to task by Kelly for exploiting the workers by inflating food prices – much as we see the big Supermarkets doing today.”

  62. jupes

    Whether or not the Nazi flag was flown is irrelevant. If it was it’s nothing more than a disciplinary offense that should have been dealt with by SAS command.

    Those soldiers aren’t SAS.

  63. Geriatric Mayfly

    “We’re looking at whether or not we can have a reasonable, basic conversational English language requirement at that stage,” Mr Tudge said. “We want people to be able to interact with one another, work together, play together and continue to contribute to Australian society.”

    All well and good Mr Tudge. Not much point though if they have a bag over their heads while interacting, especially in a court room. The Old Bailey could see the importance of facial recognition in court, by adopting some simple rules of physics.

    Before the introduction of gas lighting in the early nineteenth century a mirrored reflector was placed above the bar, in order to reflect light from the windows onto the faces of the accused. This allowed the court to examine their facial expressions assess the validity of their testimony. In addition, a sounding board was placed over their heads in order to amplify their voices.

  64. JC

    Zylcon

    Areff and I , because we both worked in the US for the minimum of 40 quarters are entitled to Soc Sec and Medicare. Areff once said here he’s currently getting his. It’s not my time yet so I’m toying with the idea of claiming my entitlement too. Seeing I’m going to spend 1/3 of the year there loathing around I will probably claim what’s due. It will help pay for the eating out bill which can be quite expensive when you add 20% tips.

    This entitlement applies to all legal foreigners even if they live elsewhere and don’t have US citizenship, so don’t be surprised aliens ( not the spaceship kind) are claiming SS. How fucked is that system and no wonder they’re drowning in red ink. What makes things worse is that there is no means test in SS so warren buffet is entitled to it. Knowing him, he’s claiming it too.

  65. Mother Lode

    Mercedes Benz adopted the peace symbol as their emblem. I don’t trust them.

    It isn’t a peace symbol.

    The peace symbol has the vertical lines extending all the way to the edges at the top and bottom. (I think it was a combining of two runes that correspond to the first letters of something like ‘Nuclear Disarmament’ – yeah, the peace symbol is actually an anti-nuke symbol).

    The Mercedes Benz symbol is simply a circle divided into three. I am sure it represents the Nazi triad “Eins Volk, Eins Reich, Eins Fuhrer”. The three elements comprising a whole.

    I might send the ABC some pictures of Sydney Buses. The Libs are in power in NSW, so they will likely run with it.

  66. Snoopy

    Thank you, Mother Lode. I never knew that. 😎

  67. Bruce in WA

    Reportedly, the Merc star logo was introduced in 1909 and stands simply for M-B’s dominance over land, sea and air.

  68. calli

    I’d like to know where you pick up a swastika flag in Afghanistan. The local IGA?

  69. Des Deskperson

    ‘If the Chinaman was a market gardener, Bandana would represent it as “a wealthy local businessman taken to task by Kelly for exploiting the workers by inflating food prices – much as we see the big Supermarkets doing today.”’

    Excellent. Leigh, but in fact the Chinese was a pig farmer, so Fitz has probably spun it as an early protest against the cruel treatment of battery farmed-pigs plus a demonstration against the takeover of Aussie farmland by rich Asians

  70. Woolfe

    Anne

    Dissent is patriotic when the ruling class are illegitimate and oppressive. The ruling class in England appears fearful of the truth.

    Liberty Quote Sinc?

  71. calli

    Merc is named after Benz’s granddaughter I think.

  72. Makka

    Initiation of Review– OIG Report.

    Just to remind what this is about…..

    Hopefully a bag of nails driven into the DNC coffin.

  73. struth

    The Mercedes Benz symbol is simply a circle divided into three. I am sure it represents the Nazi triad “Eins Volk, Eins Reich, Eins Fuhrer”. The three elements comprising a whole.

    I’m sure you will find the symbol was around along time before the Nazis existed.

  74. Leigh Lowe

    A fair and reasonable point.
    However, shenanigans usually involves doing something stupid with items close at hand. Who the f–k carries a Nazi flag around with them? Personally I had better (more useful) things to weigh my pack down with. Clearly premeditated stupidity.

    I agree.
    A bit of impromptu graffiti using a half-full tin of paint which was laying around in stores is one thing, but he must have packed the thing in his kit.
    How many people would be in the vehicle?
    Where was his superior? He should have booted him up the arse within ten seconds.
    Unless he was the commander of the group, which makes it worse.
    This sort of shit loses the propaganda war, both in the field and back at home.
    One thing for sure … if I was in that situation with a dick like that I would immediately start to worry about what sort of more dangerous “off reservation” shit he might pull in the future at precisely the wrong moment.

  75. max

    Ned Kelly – awarded for bravery. Killed cops in self-defence.

    Andrew Hastie – awarded for bravery. Killed others in self-defence.

    Ned Kelly – assaulted a Chinaman. Racist.

    Andrew Hastie – assaulted Chinese verbally. Racist.

  76. Whether or not the Nazi flag was flown is irrelevant. If it was it’s nothing more than a disciplinary offense that should have been dealt with by SAS command.

    Those soldiers aren’t SAS.

    We’re still in the weeds. In the end, it doesn’t matter either way. What we should be focusing on is that they are targetting the SAS/Commandoes for SJW transformation. Everything else is a distraction.

  77. C.L.

    I’m still waiting for the 7.30 Report’s interview with the alleged victim of Tom Ballard.

  78. Zatara

    What makes things worse is that there is no means test in SS so warren buffet is entitled to it.

    JC, you might want to have a look at these SS calculators as it’s not quite as simple as it appears and there are tactics for maximizing your benefit.

    There are for instance limitations on your benefits based on when you begin to draw them and if you still collect an income. More broad info here.

    My father “retired” there but continued to work. He had to be careful how much income he showed if he wanted to collect full SS benefits.

  79. egg_

    if people are judging the flag’s colour from a few cropped pixel samples

    The RGB for Nazi red is: 183, 21, 19, I believe.

  80. Woolfe

    Exactly what I was thinking Gab

  81. calli

    You make a very good point.

    No argument from me.

  82. thefrollickingmole

    zyconoclast
    #2736906, posted on June 14, 2018 at 2:41 pm
    Justin Trudeau and friends

    Invisible head job r^pist strikes again.
    Is there no end to his victims?

  83. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This sort of shit loses the propaganda war, both in the field and back at home.

    That’s the whole crux of the matter.

  84. thefrollickingmole

    Where was his superior? He should have booted him up the arse within ten seconds.

    A little more info on the flag.

    It was reported, buried with a throwaway line, on their ABC, that the soldier/soldiers were “counselled at the time and the flag burnt/destroyed”.

    Im assuming this means they were taken to a safe space where gentle music played and their chakras were realigned?*

    * ex military people may have a better grasp of what might have been involved than me.

    So in effect we are being served a huge portion of “incident dealt with at the time, appropiately reheated as the 10th light waffen SS brigade rides again”.
    How very ABC.

  85. struth

    Regarding Ned Kelly, who I have also extensively researched.

    There was undoubtedly ill feeling toward the Irish Catholics as there is to this day.

    The “mocker” in many statements above uses journalists statements as facts.
    He is as biased as most toward Ned Kelly and in using the evidence available.
    Here’s something that is also fact.
    Thousands of Irish and poor people all over the countryside never gave up Ned once.
    Even though, they themselves were being harassed.
    Aarron Sherritt was bribed we recall, and of course it took a member of the bloody education department to warn the train, but thousands stood by Ned.
    Why?
    The Irish either knew their place or were forced into it.
    Some proud men didn’t like being given their shit kickers station in life, in a brave new country, as they saw it.
    There are two sides to this story, of course.
    But to dismiss this character as just another criminal defies exactly what made him a legend in the first place.
    He had so much support, he thought he truly was at war with Regina, and that the people were with him.
    In hindsight, you could see how a passionate Irishman (of Irish decent) could come to that conclusion.
    All that support deluded the young bugger into delusions of grandeur, obviously.
    Those cops weren’t chasing Ned to give him a cautionary note and some community service on the weekends.
    There is too much to this, and too much tribal ill feeling between analysts and historians on both sides, to dismiss it either way.

  86. JC

    Tbanks zat. It looks complex.

  87. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Kelly was a piece of shit.

    It’s to this country’s eternal shame that our national heroes are a Kiwi horse, a sheep molester and a bog Irish crook.

  88. Zatara

    What makes things worse is that there is no means test in SS so warren buffet is entitled to it. Knowing him, he’s claiming it too.

    Yep, no means test as in a test based on your total self-worth.

    But, he may not be eligible to draw an SS benefit for the same reason he claims to pay less income tax than his secretary…. he doesn’t have “earned income” per the tax law so he doesn’t pay any tax on it. What he has are capital gains. SS and Medicare taxes are taken out of earned income, not capital gains. He doesn’t currently draw a paycheck (earned income) so doesn’t pay into the SS or Medicare system.

    However, if at some point in his life he paid enough into the SS system he could still qualify for a benefit as long as his current “earned income” didn’t exceed the SS limits.

    As I said, it’s more complicated than it looks. There are lawyers in the US that specialize in just this.

  89. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC, you might want to have a look at these SS calculators as it’s not quite as simple as it appears and there are tactics for maximizing your benefit.

    Can we just leave the Nazi calculators at the door please Jesus Christ people for f$cks sake.

  90. Mother Lode

    Sorry, I should have made it clear that my explanation for the Mercedes Benz logo was just kidding.

    It pre-dated the Nazis.

  91. Stimpson J. Cat

    It isn’t a peace symbol.

    There us only one peace symbol and that is The Cross.
    The sooner all the heathens accept it the quicker we will all have some f$cking peace.

  92. Boambee John

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2736896, posted on June 14, 2018 at 2:23 pm
    They are all the same.

    Yes yes Annie settle down Jesus Christ.
    Don’t go all in on everything you read online.
    Just because you want something to be true doesn’t mean it necessarily is.
    Maintain healthy distance in your mind from the things you read and see.
    Trust me on this.

    Good advice, which the running dog lackey of the fascist left establishment, m0nty, should take to heart. Witness his ejaculations this morning at rumours that Trump’s former lawyer might “roll over”.

  93. Zatara

    Tbanks zat. It looks complex.

    The secret is hitting SS mandated full retirement age. If you are 60 this year your full retirement age (and max benefit) happens at age 66 and 8 months.

    It gets simple after that.

  94. struth

    It’s to this country’s eternal shame that our national heroes are a Kiwi horse, a sheep molester and a bog Irish crook.

    Thanks for that in depth analysis.

    Now, why would ya be sayin’ terrible tings like dat sir?

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Im assuming this means they were taken to a safe space where gentle music played and their chakras were realigned?*

    * ex military people may have a better grasp of what might have been involved than me.

    “Now listen you horrible, disgusting, sniveling grub, another stunt like that, and I’ll see you thrown that far out of the Army, they’ll need a shanghai to deliver you your discharge certificate .”

  96. jupes

    In the end, it doesn’t matter either way.

    It matters to the men being slandered.

    What we should be focusing on is that they are targetting the SAS/Commandoes for SJW transformation. Everything else is a distraction.

    True.

  97. struth

    Sorry, I should have made it clear that my explanation for the Mercedes Benz logo was just kidding.

    Sorry, I only scroll back so far.

    It’s the lazy good for nothing alcoholic Irishman in me

  98. Zatara

    Can we just leave the Nazi calculators at the door please Jesus Christ people for f$cks sake.

    Ve haf vays of making you calculate.

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    .

    Is living chained in David Leyonhjelms basement writing humorous yet topical Christmas songs for David to sing in parliament to win hearts and minds.

  100. johanna

    Academics at JCU suddely realise that their emails are being read by the administration (which is how they came up with the ‘grounds’ to sack Peter Ridd.)

    There has been a sudden outbreak of support for academic freedom and privacy, albeit in muted terms.

    A leading Great Barrier Reef researcher says academic staff at James Cook University (JCU) are avoiding using their staff emails in the wake of the sacking of climate change sceptic Peter Ridd.

    “They’re using G-mail, Hotmail and Yahoo instead,” Jon Brodie from the University’s Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies told 7.30.

    Professor Ridd was sacked last month for allegedly disrespectful comments he made about his colleagues on Sky TV and in private emails he sent on his university account.

    According to documents filed in the Federal Circuit Court, Professor Ridd sent a private email describing a leading coral researcher as “not having any clue about the weather”, and that he “will give the normal doom science about the Great Barrier Reef”.

    He also said in another email that JCU, along with other universities, are “Orwellian in nature”

    Professor Brodie was the target of some of Peter Ridd’s criticisms, but he still feels the search of the outspoken academic’s emails sends a “terrible signal” to the rest of JCU’s academic staff.

    “A lot of people will be thinking about what they wrote in email they thought were private to the people they were sent to,” he told 7.30.

    “We know already lots of people are now not using the JCU email system, it’s happening now.

    “If they wanted, they (JCU) could go back through anybody’s emails and find what they said, maybe even the senior management team.”

    Imagine all the embarrassing stuff that might come out – affairs with students or other non-spouses; non PC jokes and comments; uunflattering appraisals of colleagues and administrators; discussion of payment plans with one’s bookmaker; recommendations and bookings for ‘houses of pleasure’ or rent boys – the list goes on.

    They don’t give a rat’s about Peter Ridd, of course. But, it’s fun to watch how his case has opened this can of worms. Watching academics squirm because of their own hypocrisy is a delicious experience. 🙂

  101. Boambee John

    Anne at 1433

    I want to share my concern about the arrest and conviction of Tommy Robinson in Great Britain

    After his time at the G 7, Pres Trump might be happy to needle Mrs May about this?

  102. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ‘Other prisoners advised him of this’: Psychiatrist testifies accused Bourke Street driver Dimitrious Gargasoulas told him he’ll be out of jail in five years if he pleads not guilty by reason of mental impairment

    From the Daily Mail.

  103. It matters to the men being slandered.

    I agree.

  104. JC

    Zat

    What happens at “ full retirement age” if you claimed benefits well before? Presumably you will be impacted, right.

    Here’s my problem, if I spend 3 months a year there, we will need health insurance. I’ve been quoted as high as 10 grand by Chubb for decent coverage. That’s a mauling by those hyenas. A private visit in NYC will set you back 700 bucks by the doc shysters too. Hospital would be financial ruin because they would gouge 1/2 the GDP. The only cheap way to get coverage is to claim SS early so we go on Medicare. I don’t think we can claim Medicare without getting SS. Hence why I will very likely make a SS call .

  105. Boambee John

    Des D at 1444

    Thanks.

  106. zyconoclast

    JC
    #2736920, posted on June 14, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    The aliens were legal and entitled to the benefits.
    The point being that the aliens used it a lot my than the native born.
    About 50% versus 39%.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Mother of raped Tennant Creek toddler blames alcohol restrictions

    The Australian
    2:27PM June 14, 2018

    Remy Varga
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @RemyVarga

    The mother of the two-year-old girl who was allegedly raped in Tennant Creek has blamed alcohol restrictions for the assault of her daughter.

    The Northern Territory Children’s Commissioner’s investi­gation of the alleged rape found the girl, who was infected with a sexually transmitted disease, suffered horrific injuries in an attack that was foreseeable.

    Two men were charged with the alleged sexual assault of the girl last month.

    Child protection services had 52 reports on the children in the family documenting “all possible harm types” including concerns about sexual abuse.

    The toddler’s sexual assault brought the small Northern Territory town under intense national scrutiny and unleashed a furore over the failings of child protection authority Territory Families.

    The child’s mother, whose identity has not been published, says she has been unfairly portrayed in the media, in an exclusive interview airing tonight on SBS program The Point.

    “Just don’t go talking about my life, and putting my picture up, painting me as a bad mother. I’m not a bad mother, I’m a good mother. I worry about my children and their safety, and I love and care about them,” she said.

    She said her home was not a “party house” but rather alcohol restrictions had led to people drinking in her yard.

    “The media said that my house was a party house, but it wasn’t. We didn’t drink there much. It’s just that some people would come past and sit down with their alcohol in my yard because they weren’t allowed to go and drink outside of town.”

    From the Oz.

  108. Boambee John

    Mother Lode at 1514

    (I think it was a combining of two runes that correspond to the first letters of something like ‘Nuclear Disarmament’ – yeah, the peace symbol is actually an anti-nuke symbol).

    Came from (artistically??) combining the letters C, N and D, from Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.

  109. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mother of raped Tennant Creek toddler blames alcohol restrictions

    And she’s dead right too.
    Those guys would have been down the park drinking rather than raping babies.

  110. JC

    Zyco

    That stat is probably correct, but I’m not sure if it’s normalised. A large number of the aliens* would be at the lower pay scales. To really see what’s happening would be to compare the native call ratio to the aliens
    at similar socio.

    * not ET type.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    ‘Other prisoners advised him of this’: Psychiatrist testifies accused Bourke Street driver Dimitrious Gargasoulas told him he’ll be out of jail in five years if he pleads not guilty by reason of mental impairment

    Self-inflicted Meth Psychosis is not Mental Illness.
    Every f$cker wants to jump on the bandwagon honestly it’s just outrageous and disgusting .

  112. johanna

    “Just don’t go talking about my life, and putting my picture up, painting me as a bad mother. I’m not a bad mother, I’m a good mother. I worry about my children and their safety, and I love and care about them,” she said.

    She said her home was not a “party house” but rather alcohol restrictions had led to people drinking in her yard.

    “The media said that my house was a party house, but it wasn’t. We didn’t drink there much. It’s just that some people would come past and sit down with their alcohol in my yard because they weren’t allowed to go and drink outside of town.”

    That is one of the most saddening things I have ever read.

    If she thinks she’s a good mother, I’d hate to think what her definition of a bad mother would be.

    Poor kids. What chance have they got, with this mentality among their parents and supposed family more generally? We always hear about how Aboriginal extended families are a safety net for kids – so where were they?

    On this piss with the perps, I bet.

  113. Makka

    Australian soldiers have been photographed flying a Nazi swastika flag from their vehicle while on operations in Afghanistan.

    The photo, obtained exclusively by the ABC, was taken in August 2007.

    11 years ago. It’s a stitch up. No doubt about it.

  114. Baldrick

    What I learned about myself by agreeing to peg a guy on the third date.

    Not even Tom Ballard waits that long.

  115. Boambee John

    On Tommy Robinson and the US congressman, I wonder (ha, ha, ha) if there is any chance (ho, ho, ho) of Amnesty International taking up his case as a prisoner of conscience (ROFLMAO)!

  116. thefrollickingmole

    SS calculators

    Mine is stuck on 6,000,000.

  117. Death Giraffe

    Just saw a guy with the most unconvincing wig.
    Looks like he dipped a hedgehog in tar and glued it to his head.

  118. Geriatric Mayfly

    CFMMEU penalties hit $15 million
    CFMEU official Bradley (Brad) Upton.The Federal Court has penalised the union and organiser Bradley Upton for threatening and abusing non-union workers.

    Must be time for the lads to kick start those motorbikes, and beef up their door-to-door deliveries of exotic substances. If this persecution keeps up the kiddie’s Christmas toy run might soon be in jeopardy.

  119. Zatara

    What happens at “ full retirement age” if you claimed benefits well before? Presumably you will be impacted, right.

    If you claim financial benefits before the full retirement age you will get a lesser amount throughout the rest of your life than if you waited until then. But the amount of your benefit will not change at full retirement and the restriction on earned income goes away at that point (as I understand it).

    The only cheap way to get coverage is to claim SS early so we go on Medicare. I don’t think we can claim Medicare without getting SS.

    I’m not that up to speed on the Medicare thing yet but I’m looking into it. Basically Medicare coverage starts at age 65. There are lots of associations who offer discounted health insurance for people before that age and even medicare supplement plans which expand your coverages after 65. Amac is one of them. Another option might be to add a travelers health insurance policy for the periods you will be in the US. I’ve used those before and some even include medevac back to home.

    Happy to answer what I can via e-mail if you prefer to get my details from the Doomlord.

  120. cohenite

    This is big. And proof that courage is contagious.

    U.S. Representative Paul Gosar makes this Statement regarding Tommy Robinson.

    The poor buggar. Britain is fucked. Not even reading Jane Austen and watching Escape to the Country can cheer me. But hey when tits gets in I reckon we’ll overtake the mother country on the next corner.

  121. ABC –

    A 19-year-old man from Broadmeadows has been charged with the rape and murder of a woman whose body was found on a soccer field in Melbourne’s inner north.

    Nothing about background of the perp from the ABC.

    The bolded bit gives a clue to the origin of the perp.

  122. Stimpson J. Cat

    Britain is fucked. Not even reading Jane Austen and watching Escape to the Country can cheer me. But hey when tits gets in I reckon we’ll overtake the mother country on the next corner.

    It’s hilarious.
    Who are the unwanted convicts now,
    you pasty whinging c$nts?
    And you did it all to yourselves.
    Just enjoy the ride all the way down folks.
    You have to laugh.

  123. Death Giraffe

    Are you wearing a wig right now Stimpson?

  124. Bruce in WA

    “The media said that my house was a party house, but it wasn’t. We didn’t drink there much. It’s just that some people would come past and sit down with their alcohol in my yard because they weren’t allowed to go and drink outside of town.”

    Really? If you were such a “good mother” and worried about your children, why didn’t you tell these people to f*ck off!

  125. Stimpson J. Cat

    Are you wearing a wig right now Stimpson?

    Yes I am wearing pants you disgusting Kiwi pervert.
    I know how your mind works.

  126. thefrollickingmole

    The UK as a Monty Python skit.

    One of Britain’s most senior police chiefs has intervened in the debate about rising crime, saying social inequality is a cause that needs tackling and that those arrested and jailed tend to be people with less money and opportunity.

    The Metropolitan police assistant commissioner Patricia Gallan told the Guardian that “children are not born bad” and called for a wider effort to deal with inequalities that leave people feeling like “they do not have a stake in society”.

    Gallan said: “I think we deal with the symptoms and the outcomes, but society at large has got to think about how we solve some of the other issues about what has been causing the crime in the first place. I don’t think children are born bad. I don’t believe that for one moment.”

    She added: “If we don’t invest at the beginning we’ll have to invest in it in terms of criminal justice and in the prison system.”

    Gallan leads Scotland Yard’s specialist crime and operations, spearheading the fight against gun crime, homicides and high-harm and high-profile crimes. She sits on the Met’s management board of senior leaders and is a key adviser to the commissioner, Cressida Dick.

    She also said her race and gender meant she had faced extra challenges, but the police were a fairer employer than others.

    Asked about the link between poverty and alienation and people committing crime, Gallan said: “I think if you are a young person and you haven’t got opportunity necessarily – and this isn’t an excuse for it, it is explanation – what’s your risk? You’ve got a sense of belonging if you are in a group or a gang … and you get the material aspects that you would like, so that’s part of the challenge. We’re also a very instantaneous society now in lots of what we do.”

    Gallan said police forces should look like the communities they serve. The Met is thousands of minority ethnic officers short of this, and Gallan said: “I am disappointed that we still look as we do.

  127. cohenite

    Look at the expression on that cxnt may’s face; if she isn’t up to her eyeballs in the steele dossier fbi stitch up of Trump I’ll eat a turnip.

  128. Baldrick

    Mother of raped Tennant Creek toddler blames alcohol restrictions

    Mmmyes, blame everything and everybody else except yourselves, because noble warrior culture.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    “The media said that my house was a party house, but it wasn’t. We didn’t drink there much. It’s just that some people would come past and sit down with their alcohol in my yard because they weren’t allowed to go and drink outside of town.”

    If only there was some way to try and save these individual children in these terrible conditions.

  130. JC

    Thanks a lot, Zat.

    My eyes glaze over dealing with this stuff. I’ll take you on the kind offer.

  131. cohenite

    thefrollickingmole

    #2737003, posted on June 14, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    The UK as a Monty Python skit.

    One of Britain’s most senior police chiefs has intervened in the debate about rising crime, saying social inequality is a cause that needs tackling and that those arrested and jailed tend to be people with less money and opportunity.

    It’s always someone else’s fault.

  132. Death Giraffe

    Are you wearing a wig right now Stimpson?

    ..

    Yes I am wearing pants…

    ..
    ????????

  133. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Met is thousands of minority ethnic officers short of this, and Gallan said: “I am disappointed that we still look as we do.

    Well I’m doing my part for miscegenation, you White Devil B$tch.
    Start banging Ethnics and catch up.
    Preferably a big Pakistani lad or two yeah?

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    ????????

    You’ve never worked for a phone sex call centre, have you?
    You always start at the top big boy.

    😁

  135. Anne

    The poor buggar. Britain is f**ked.

    Yes, it seems an unfathomable descent; from the Magna Carta to the sacrifice of their children to Moloch.

    Tyrannical Governments have been overthrown before.

    Islam is a Totalitarian legal system. That is indisputable.

    Banning Islam is not impossible. It would be a way to rescue both Brits and Muslims from its horrors.

    Ban it from the face of the earth.

  136. Tom

    Anyone still think Trumble’s over-regulated, electricity-starved toilet of an economy isn’t
    in recession? (H/T IPA).

  137. Gary

    How do I embed a youtube video?

    Cheers

  138. Des Deskperson

    From Johanna:

    ‘A leading Great Barrier Reef researcher says academic staff at James Cook University (JCU) are avoiding using their staff emails in the wake of the sacking of climate change sceptic Peter Ridd……….Professor Brodie was the target of some of Peter Ridd’s criticisms, but he still feels the search of the outspoken academic’s emails sends a “terrible signal” to the rest of JCU’s academic staff.

    “A lot of people will be thinking about what they wrote in email they thought were private to the people they were sent to,” he told 7.30.

    “We know already lots of people are now not using the JCU email system, it’s happening now.

    “If they wanted, they (JCU) could go back through anybody’s emails and find what they said, maybe even the senior management team.”

    Aren’t these people aware of the James Cook University’s policy on the use of ITC resources? It includes the following:

    “1.5 University ICT Services must not be used in any manner, which the University considers to be inappropriate, this may include, but is not limited to:

    i. accessing pornography;

    ii. unauthorised monitoring of electronic communications;

    iii. knowingly downloading, storing, distributing or viewing of offensive, obscene, indecent, or menacing material. This could include, but is not limited to, defamatory material, material that could constitute racial or religious vilification, discriminatory material, material that incorporates gratuitous violence or frequent and highlighted bad language;

    iv. stalking, blackmailing or engaging in otherwise threatening behaviour;

    v. any use which breaches a law, including copyright breaches, fraudulent activity, computer crimes and other computer offences;

    vi. transmitting spam or other unsolicited communications; or

    vii. the introduction or distribution of security threats, including a virus or other harmful malware.

    1.6 Limited personal use of University ICT Services is acceptable, providing that that use is otherwise in accordance with this Policy. Limited personal use of University ICT Services is a privilege.”.

    So no academic should be using the Uni’s ICT resources for any purpose that is in breach of these guidelines, which presumably they would have had to have read and agreed to before they were allowed to log on to the system, which, BTW, JCU has a perfect right to monitor.

    And if Ridd, valiant fighter fro truth though he may well be, made allegedly disrespectful comments about his colleagues in private emails he sent on his university account, then he would have been, prima facie, in breach of the JCU policy on ICT

  139. Senile Old Guy

    Academics at JCU suddely realise that their emails are being read by the administration

    More like “academics at JCU should have read the IT policy more carefully”. Any sensible person has a separate email account for personal email. Careful people have other accounts for specific purposes.

  140. cohenite

    MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle said on Monday that she’s sure she shouts words in the shower like “f—k Trump” and other insults recently hurled at the president.

    “I understand the frustration and outrage around the president. I’m sure I shout some of those words in the shower,” Ruhle said to her MSNBC panel.

    Ruhle added that when celebrities are hoping for the economy to fail, that only helps Trump.

    “When you see celebrities say ‘I hope the economy bottoms out to get rid of Trump,’ I think that helps Trump,” she said.

    Ruhle has said she is rooting for this administration to succeed but has been a frequent critic.

    Pretty but thick as a plank.

  141. Death Giraffe

    Look.
    Lets clear this up.
    Are you wearing your pants on your head in an ill-advised attempt to disguise your bald spot, or are you wearing a wig as pants either to ward off the cold or as an arse merkin.
    I feel we have the right to know

  142. Carpe Jugulum

    Broadmeadows?

    The northern suburbs of Melbouribad are raghead central

  143. Anne

    Gary, tap the small arrow top right of your YouTube video and select ‘copy link’, then return to your Catallaxy box, tap and select ‘paste’.

    Hope that works.

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australian soldiers have been photographed flying a Nazi swastika flag from their vehicle while on operations in Afghanistan.

    The photo, obtained exclusively by the ABC, was taken in August 2007.

    11 years ago. It’s a stitch up. No doubt about it.

    Defence have admitted that the flag was “briefly displayed”, and it was dealt with at the time. As has been observed, with friends like the fool who took the phonograph, you wouldn’s need enemies, whoever leaked that photograph to the A.B.C. should be put in the pillory and pelted with dead cats and other rubbish, and as L.L. observes, it makes it even harder to win the propaganda war both at home and “in the sandpit.”

  145. OldOzzie

    incoherent rambler
    #2736997, posted on June 14, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    ABC –

    A 19-year-old man from Broadmeadows has been charged with the rape and murder of a woman whose body was found on a soccer field in Melbourne’s inner north.

    Nothing about background of the perp from the ABC.

    The bolded bit gives a clue to the origin of the perp

    is this what you thought?

  146. Exit Stage Right

    The treasonous ABC running their main story regarding some dill waving a swastika flag in Afghanistan in 2007 for chrisssake. Their go to man in the Australian Government, Mal the Mouthpiece, played his part by condemning the action in the strongest terms.
    Shit sticks to the Armed Forces.
    Job done.
    F**king cretins.

  147. Harlequin Decline

    Haka to farewell a NZ teacher. One of the best I have seen.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    #2736950, posted on June 14, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    Kelly was a piece of shit.

    It’s to this country’s eternal shame that our national heroes are a Kiwi horse, a sheep molester and a bog Irish crook.

    What should never be forgiven or forgotten is that the stupid Paddy invented the hipster beard.

  149. Stimpson J. Cat

    I feel we have the right to know

    Can I just say a great back thank you to the lively and lovely lesbian stripper couple I met last weekend for a fantastic night and great conversation.
    Best of luck with your young son ladies!

  150. Carpe Jugulum

    More like “academics at JCU should have read the IT policy more carefully”. Any sensible person has a separate email account for personal email. Careful people have other accounts for specific purposes.

    True, I only use my work laptop for work related things, my private laptop is for everything else. My tablet has a VPN and is fair game.

  151. Baldrick

    Their go to man in the Australian Government, Mal the Mouthpiece, played his part by condemning the action in the strongest terms.

    So now you know he leaked the photograph.

  152. calli

    incoherent rambler
    #2737025, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    http://image.s7.exacttarget.com/lib/fe8a137271630d7d7d/m/1/2307a7c0-9395-4dfb-a941-4db737d0e05f.png

    That’s really interesting, Rambler. My business has almost tripled turnover in the past three years – I put it down to fewer players in the market. No one wants to take the risks involved, and in building they are as plentiful as the restrictions imposed by governments.

    If you can hang in there, trim when necessary and keep a tight rein, you can do quite well.

  153. OldOzzie

    Harlequin Decline
    #2737027, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    Haka to farewell a NZ teacher. One of the best I have seen.

    Thanks – excellent Haka

  154. Delta A

    Harlequin, that was fantastic!

  155. Delta A

    Harlequin Decline
    #2737027, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    I thought my farewell was eye-wateringly lovely, but now I feel gypped. 🙂

  156. OldOzzie

    Baldrick
    #2737031, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    Their go to man in the Australian Government, Mal the Mouthpiece, played his part by condemning the action in the strongest terms.

    So now you know he leaked the photograph.

    Speaking about Mal the Mouthpiece, it seems to be a long time between Australian NewsPolls

    When is the next one due?

  157. thefrollickingmole

    How do I embed a youtube video?

    I find just copy and pasting the youtube link direct at the end of your comments gets it to work.
    If you write anything after the link then it just comes up with the link though.

  158. Delta A

    Arky, get over here and do a belated Haka for me.

  159. Gary

    Anne
    #2737022, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:08 pm
    Gary, tap the small arrow top right of your YouTube video and select ‘copy link’, then return to your Catallaxy box, tap and select ‘paste’.
    Hope that works.

    Nope cant see an arrow, Iv been using copy embed code with no success.

  160. zyconoclast

    Harlequin Decline
    #2737027, posted on June 14, 2018 at 5:12 pm
    Haka to farewell a NZ teacher. One of the best I have seen.

    Why weren’t the girls included?
    Misogyneeee!

  161. johanna

    The UK is indeed in dire straits.

    At the bottom end, you have multi-generational welfare ‘families’ with the morality of tomcats in an alley. You also have ever encroaching Islamist ghettoes, like Tower Hamlets, riddled with electoral corruption and rape gangs.

    At the top end, you have the faux House of Lords (most of whose members were appointed by Tony Blair and his successors) actively thwarting the will of the people, who want to get out of the EU. BTW, what a joke to see all those old unionists suddenly styling themselves ‘Lord Muck of 3, Railway Cuttings’ – whoops, you mean they didn’t? You mean they styled themselves something aristocratic?

    ‘The working class can kiss my arse;
    I’ve got the foreman’s job at last.’

    It should be noted that only the Chinese Communist People’s Assembly or whatever it is called this week now has more members than the House of Lords. Like the Chicoms, they represent nobody except who gave them their sinecure.

    In the middle you have the ghastly Theresa May, perched on a barbed wire fence, which she richly deserves. She is a political dumbo, way out of her depth, and lacking the strength of character to make the best of it. As Home Secretary, she was mustard for curbing people’s civil rights. She wouldn’t know a principle if it floated down the Thames in a floodlit barge featuring Cleopatra, dancing girls, and Richard Burton kissing Liz on the prow.

    If anything happens to Tommy Robinson in jail, those fuckwits had better watch out. All bets will be off.

  162. thefrollickingmole

    King Kanute insists the tide will respond to him this time…
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/14/tobacco-industry-seeking-to-control-anti-smuggling-measures-say-critics

    ….says the study in the journal Tobacco Control. “At best, evidence indicates that tobacco companies are failing to control their supply chain, over-producing in some markets (eg Ukraine) and oversupplying others (eg Belgium) in the knowledge their products will end up on the illicit market,” says the paper.
    ….

    The World Health Organisation’s Framework Convention on Tobacco Control adopted an Illicit Trade Protocol in 2012 to crack down on smuggling. Central to this protocol is a “track and trace” system, which would ensure every pack of cigarettes or other tobacco product would be marked in a way that it can be followed on its journey from manufacturer to smoker around the globe.

    Then at the end the real reason gubbiments are against it slips..

    “Allegations that the tobacco industry cannot be trusted are absurd, given that we collect more than $32bn in excise tax for governments across the world,” said Brendan Lemoult, Fiscal Affairs and Anti-Illicit Trade vice president of JTI.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    I’ve had similar problems Gary.
    I think the exact copy method varies between devices.

  164. Gary

    Copy and past from the address bar worked.

    thanks for the tips

    Cheers

  165. jupes

    The toddler’s sexual assault brought the small Northern Territory town under intense national scrutiny and unleashed a furore over the failings of child protection authority Territory Families.

    While it should have unleashed an even bigger furore against the evil pricks who actually raped the baby.

    “Just don’t go talking about my life, and putting my picture up, painting me as a bad mother. I’m not a bad mother, I’m a good mother. I worry about my children and their safety, and I love and care about them,” she said.

    Yeah so give the kid back to her or else you will creating another “stolen generation”. Right Bill?

  166. Gab

    Delta A
    #2736940, posted on June 14, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    Speak up, Gab.

    Woolfe
    #2736941, posted on June 14, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    Exactly what I was thinking Gab

    calli
    #2736942, posted on June 14, 2018 at 3:39 pm
    You make a very good point.

    No argument from me.

    Youse guys are hilarious! 😀

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Aboriginal corporation exec plundered cash

    Australian Associated Press
    4:50PM June 14, 2018

    The former executive officer of a West Australian Aboriginal corporation has been ordered to pay more than $430,000 in compensation and penalties after he borrowed money from the non-profit entity that he couldn’t repay.

    Ashley James Taylor took $211,612 from Geraldton-based Murchison Region Aboriginal Corporation between 2011 and 2015 without approval from the directors, and only repaid $29,085.

    In the Federal Court of Australia on Thursday, Taylor was ordered to pay the corporation the remaining $182,527 and its court costs, and was also fined $250,000 and disqualified from managing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander corporations for seven years.

    From the Oz. While two year old toddlers are being raped, others seem to be doing all right.

  168. Delta A

    I worry about my children and their safety, and I love and care about them

    …when I am sober enough to remember them.

  169. Gab

    Aboriginal corporation exec plundered cash

    How many stories like this have we neard about now?

    And in Victoriastan, Dan the Despicable wants a treaty with *less than 200,000 Abos and also give them grants and set up more Abo-run agencies and corproation.

    Total Abo pop from 2016 census – male abos 57,000, female abos 47,000. Victorian population – 6.24 million.

  170. johanna

    And if Ridd, valiant fighter fro truth though he may well be, made allegedly disrespectful comments about his colleagues in private emails he sent on his university account, then he would have been, prima facie, in breach of the JCU policy on ICT

    All well and good, Des, except for two things.

    (i) There is no record of it ever being used against anyone but Ridd; and

    (ii) from the reaction of his colleagues, they were as surprised as he was about it.

    Listen, you sign on as an academic and you have no choice about the use of the email policy – I doubt if most of them even read it. I mean, what’s the alternative? Not having an email address at the university?

    Of course, JCU has form, most notably taking away the late Bob Carter’s email address and library card because he was a heretic on climate change.

  171. nemkat

    I wonder how the State got to decide who’s a bad mother and who’s not?

  172. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wonder how the State got to decide who’s a bad mother and who’s not?

    Realistically Grigs,
    no one cares.

  173. JC

    I wonder how the State got to decide who’s a bad mother and who’s not?

    It’s not perfect, but courts usually have most of the responsibility, Numbnuts. You really are stupid, aren’t you.

  174. Fat Tony

    It’s to this country’s eternal shame that our national heroes are a Kiwi horse, a sheep molester and a bog Irish crook.

    I didn’t know that the Death Giraffe is one of our national heroes…..

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    Cue Grigs with devastating Stimp the Gimp repartee.

  176. Senile Old Guy

    I mean, what’s the alternative? Not having an email address at the university?

    Use the university account for university business and use a personal account for personal business. It takes about 5 minutes to set up a personal Gmail account. Use the Gmail account in a web browser. Gmail is encrypted end to end, so the only way for anyone to read your email is using a key logger or something similar.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    I didn’t know that the Death Giraffe is one of our national heroes…..

    He’s the Hero we deserve,
    not the Hero we need.

  178. Stimpson J. Cat

    Cue P with amusing Clive James anecdote.

  179. Senile Old Guy

    Listen, you sign on as an academic and you have no choice about the use of the email policy –

    Of course, that’s why it’s a policy. Use a personal account. It is easy.

  180. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In the middle you have the ghastly Theresa May, perched on a barbed wire fence, which she richly deserves. She is a political dumbo, way out of her depth, and lacking the strength of character to make the best of it. As Home Secretary, she was mustard for curbing people’s civil rights. She wouldn’t know a principle if it floated down the Thames in a floodlit barge featuring Cleopatra, dancing girls, and Richard Burton kissing Liz on the prow.

    Evocative. Beautifully written, Jo.
    No smiley, ‘cos not joking. Wins today’s political invective award.

  181. Atoms for Peace

    Why do people assume that academics are IT savvy ?

  182. Makka

    And in Victoriastan, Dan the Despicable wants a treaty with *less than 200,000 Abos and also give them grants and set up more Abo-run agencies and corproation.

    This is where the Labor vote of parasites attach themselves to the host. It’s really got fk all to do with the abos. It’s ONLY about setting up another taxpayer funded vehicle through which to channel cash to the faithful and provide “jobs” to assorted leftscum.

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    Cue NumptyKat with tough reference to blokes and blokiness while disparaging our noble Aboriginal peoples.

  184. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sorry this is a bit long, but there are several peaks here in the Stupidity Mountains well over 8000 metres. Lesser prominenes are those execrable contortions of language to win the post-modernist seal of approval.

    If you’re not following @RealPeerReview on Twitter, you’re really missing out. The account, run by anonymous moderators, posts real abstracts from far-left-wing researcher papers. The thread they posted last Thursday is pure gold.
    The author of the article in question is Helen Wilson, Ph.D. She holds a doctorate in feminist studies and is the lead researcher at the Portland Ungendering Research Initiative. Her paper is entitled, “Human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon.” Since that doesn’t actually mean anything, and performativity isn’t even a word, I’ll summarize: She hung around some dogs parks for a year and watched a ton of dogs having sex.
    Wilson goes on to say a couple more incomprehensible things like “human geographies” and “geographies of sexuality” and to call dog owners “human companions” before revealing three questions that her article will attempt to answer. Here they are:
    1. How do human companions manage, contribute, and respond to violence in dogs?
    2. What issues surround queer performativity and human reaction to homosexual sex between and among dogs?
    3. Do dogs suffer oppression based upon (perceived) gender?
    She then explains that she will apply “Black feminist criminology categories” (to what, I don’t know) and will suggest “practical applications” to disrupt “hegemonic masculinities” and improve access to “emancipatory spaces.” The author then helpfully introduces us to the concept of the “oppressive human with relationship to that of the oppressed dog, which is subject to the often speciesist, typically anthropocentric hegemonic presence of the human subject.”
    I feel the need to remind you here that this is a real paper written by a real person who really says things like “speciesist, typically anthropocentric hegemonic presence of the human subject” with a straight face and believes that dogs are oppressed by humans. (Excuse me while I go help my dog with her protest sign.)
    Wilson then gets into the highly serious, not at all hilarious details of her research. She begins by telling us that “throughout this work the word ‘rape’ describes human perceptions of dogs forcefully penetrating other dogs who have given no indication of wish to engage in sexual activity.” Of course, Wilson feels she must acknowledge that “because of my own situatedness, as a human, rather than a dog, I recognize my limitation in being able to determine when an incidence of dog humping qualifies as rape.” (Yup, she just said “dog humping” and “rape” in the same sentence. Also situatedness isn’t a word.) PJ Media

  185. nemkat

    It’s not perfect, but courts usually have most of the responsibility

    The Courts just rubber stamp whatever the Government jobsworths tell them.
    Doesn’t sound very responsible to me.

  186. Death Giraffe

    I didn’t know that the Death Giraffe is one of our national heroes…..

    ..
    That sheep was asking for it.

  187. JC

    The Courts just rubber stamp whatever the Government jobsworths tell them.
    Doesn’t sound very responsible to me.

    You have evidence they just rubber stamp or are you hallucinating that “fact”. Provide the evidence, or STFU.

  188. Leigh Lowe

    Before we assume too much about the accused Parkville murderer, the charged person from Broadmeadows is called James Todd.

  189. Chris

    Please, no feeding the trolley buses.

  190. nemkat

    Hi Stimpy.
    I notice you’re always coming to the defence of social workers involved in the Child Removal Industry.
    You wouldn’t be part of that Industry, by any chance, would you?

  191. Stimpson J. Cat

    Before we assume too much about the accused Parkville murderer, the charged person from Broadmeadows is called James Todd.

    He had a hipster beard.
    I have warned you seriously all about them numerous times to hurtful ridicule.

  192. jupes

    In the Federal Court of Australia on Thursday, Taylor was ordered to pay the corporation the remaining $182,527 and its court costs, and was also fined $250,000 and disqualified from managing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander corporations for seven years.

    There’s Buckley’s chance they’ll ever get that money.

    He’ll just sit pretty for a few years bludging off his tribe until he gets back on the gravy train.

    That $30,000,000,000 per year isn’t going to spend itself doncha know.

  193. Senile Old Guy

    Why do people assume that academics are IT savvy ?

    If you cannot understand a policy written in plain English, you have got to be dim or complacent. And you don’t have to be IT savvy to set up a Gmail account.

    Now JCU may be using this to get rid of an irritant, but he didn’t follow policy after being warned. He gave them a pretext.

  194. Gab

    And Turnbull’s response:

    ‘THERE’S NOT A CROCODILE IN IT’ … @TurnbullMalcolm PATHETIC RESPONSE TO OUR SERIOUS FRONT PAGE

  195. nemkat

    You have evidence they just rubber stamp or are you hallucinating that “fact”. Provide the evidence, or STFU.
    Well, can you provide evidence for your assertion that; It’s not perfect, but courts usually have most of the responsibility?

  196. Atoms for Peace

    I see the indigenous whisperer is back; the one who can discern who is indigenous just by looking.

  197. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hi Stimpy.
    I notice you’re always coming to the defence of social workers involved in the Child Removal Industry.
    You wouldn’t be part of that Industry, by any chance, would you?

    No “Dear”, no “Please”, and no “Kind Regards”,
    honestly.
    Do you even write Bro?

  198. JC

    Well, can you provide evidence for your assertion that; It’s not perfect, but courts usually have most of the responsibility?

    How about 300 years of a legal system that’s generally worked.

    You made the assertion that it doesn’t or questioned if it can. Now provide proof it doesn’t, or fuck off.

  199. johanna

    Just watched the John Adams tribute haka – he must be quite a guy. But, did anyone notice all the cultural appropriation going on there? FGS, there were privileged white kids involved, and they weren’t even at the back of the crowd where they should have been.

    Anyway, JA is the kind of teacher that carries on his frail shoulders the load of squishy, lumpy degenerates that comprise what used to be called the teaching profession.

    I had a few of the real ones, all dead now except for one who I stay in touch with. She was my senior English teacher, still sharp as a tack. She cleaned up my scribblings of grammatical errors unmercifully, bless her.

    I suppose that nowadays people remember their teachers for empathising with their transgender yearnings.

  200. Atoms for Peace

    SOG. It will be a most interesting trial methinks. Worth the $50 in crowd funding.

  201. Armadillo

    disqualified from managing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander corporations for seven years.

    Why not “any” corporation or holding a company directorship? That’s normally what happens to fraudsters.

  202. Tom

    Cue P with amusing Clive James anecdote.

    Laughed out loud, Stimpton.

  203. Senile Old Guy

    SOG. It will be a most interesting trial methinks. Worth the $50 in crowd funding.

    The result will be interesting and I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a win. It doesn’t seem clear cut to me.

  204. Atoms for Peace

    The courts in Qld must have done a shite job when they shopped a lot of politicians and coppers in the 90s ay.
    We should have cloned Hammy…The current tribe of trolls are intellectually bereft.

  205. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s like watching an Ethnic tourist at the beach.
    They just jump straight in without realizing where the flags are.
    NumptyJatz FFS.

  206. max

    Ned Kelly embodies the spirit of the 1st AIF.

  207. nemkat

    How about 300 years of a legal system that’s generally worked.

    You made the assertion that it doesn’t or questioned if it can. Now provide proof it doesn’t, or fuck off.</em

    Where do you get the 300 years from?
    How has removing Aboriginal children from their homes been a success so far?
    70% of prison inmates are Aboriginal, how do you think most of them got on the road to jail?

    It wasn't from growing up in families undisturbed by Government Social Workers, that's for sure.

  208. nemkat

    Atoms for Peace
    #2737094
    The courts in Qld must have done a shite job when they shopped a lot of politicians and coppers in the 90s ay.

    You must have an inexhaustible supply of Kool Aid, dum dum.

  209. johanna

    Her paper is entitled, “Human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon.” Since that doesn’t actually mean anything, and performativity isn’t even a word, I’ll summarize: She hung around some dogs parks for a year and watched a ton of dogs having sex.
    Wilson goes on to say a couple more incomprehensible things like “human geographies” and “geographies of sexuality” and to call dog owners “human companions” before revealing three questions that her article will attempt to answer.

    Yeah, saw that one elsewhere. That’s what happens when you decide that at least 50%, probably 100%, of the population should go to university. You can get a Master’s in Madonna and a PhD in Prince – although I reckon there is a fair argument for the latter.

  210. Makka

    The large amount of unemployed and underemployed Australians means there is still ample supply of available workers for many firms and industries, contributing to the weak wage outcomes seen in recent years.

    Based on the latest quarterly figures, there has been little progress in lowering the number of underutilised workers currently in the labour force.

    While a noisy jobs report from statistical perspective, outside of the sharp drop in unemployment, the news was pretty disappointing.

    Employment growth continues to slow, with the decline in unemployment largely reflecting that more Australians left the labour force.

    Hours worked were also weak, as were the quarterly underutilisation measures.

    As such, while the headline unemployment rate looks great, the internals of the report were not.

    “The latest set of employment data was a mixed bag for the Australian economy,” said Callam Pickering, APAC Economist at global jobs site Indeed.

    “Employment growth has averaged 12,400 per month in 2018 so far. This is well below the average of 34,000 people per month last year.

    “Conditions in the labour market have cooled and at this stage we will be lucky to see employment growth of more than 150,000 people this year.

    Pickering also described the quarterly underutilisation readings as “of greater concern”, suggesting this indicates a “high degree of labour market slack across the economy”.

    “The economy still has a long way to go before we can safely say that our labour market and economy is in a healthy place,” he said.

    “While economic growth was strong in the March quarter, something remains rotten in the labour market.

    “Wage growth continues to disappoint and is showing little sign of recovery. This will continue to weigh on household spending and house prices and hamper the recovery.”

    As such, he thinks as long as the current labour market trends prevail, the RBA will leave interest rates unchanged.

    “Such a high degree of labour market slack is not conducive to higher wages or inflation and until that changes the RBA won’t be in any hurry to hike,” he says.

    “Increasingly, we consider it unlikely that rates will be hiked before 2020.”

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australia-jobs-report-may-2018-6#BKt3KAURvxpLIZVz.99

  211. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Hey Stimpy, I read all of Peggy’s sad and lonely story in your link back thread.
    Third date with that specimen? She was crazy to ever consider a first one.
    That is not the way to a marriage and family.
    How self-deceived can some girls be?

  212. OldOzzie

    Gab
    #2737080, posted on June 14, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    Fabulous front page of the NT News today. really takes a swipe at Maocolm.

    Agreed Gab – copied and sent to Local MPs

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfkht7tU0AAw_ed.jpg

  213. johanna

    Gawd, the intolerable socks are here, and despite Baldrick’s wise advice, some egos here can’t resist responding.

    I’m retiring with some P G Wodehouse.

    Later.

  214. Armadillo

    Anyone know what time that DOJ report is due out, Australian time?

  215. JC

    Unreal

    The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office is reviewing a sexual assault case against actor Sylvester Stallone, a DA’s office spokesperson said.

    The Santa Monica Police Department presented the case to the DA’s office. SMPD says the initial complaint was filed with police in November 2017 relating to an allegation of sexual misconduct from the 1990s.

    Additional details of the case were not released.

    Last year, during initial media reports about the Santa Monica case, Stallone’s attorney said he “categorically disputes the claim.”

    The DA’s office did not say how long it was expected to take to review the case.

  216. JC

    I’m retiring with some P G Wodehouse.

    I thought you did on massive amounts of taxpayer dime.

  217. Mitch M.

    I’m retiring with some P G Wodehouse.

    As you enjoy that Johanna you might like a recent interpretation:

  218. Makka

    3PM Eastern(US) , Arm.

    Trump sees the unabridged version at 12 noon. From none other than Rosenstein , who may find his name up in lights in it.

  219. nemkat

    Sly may be another Kevin Spacey.
    IIRC, he was teaching English at a Swiss Girl’s School when he should’ve been slogging through the jungles of Vietnam.

  220. Leigh Lowe

    Armadillo

    #2737104, posted on June 14, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    Anyone know what time that DOJ report is due out, Australian time?

    I think I saw 3 PM US time.
    Assuming that is Eastern time that would be 5 AM Australian Eastern.
    I designate Tom as the Cat correspondent on this one.

  221. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Live sheep shipment unlawful, lawyer says

    Australian Associated Press
    6:07PM June 14, 2018

    The federal government had no power to grant a permit for the live export of tens of thousands of sheep to the Middle East, the Federal Court has been told.

    Animals Australia alleges the Department of Agriculture unlawfully gave Emanuel Exports the permit to ship 58,000 sheep from Fremantle in Western Australia on June 6.

    Dan Star QC told Justice Debra Mortimer on Thursday the case could have ramifications for other live exports set to leave Australia over the coming months.

    “This was such a case where there was no power to grant the permit at all,” he said.

    Mr Star told the court a permit could only be granted if it was found the livestock were healthy enough to undertake the voyage, and if there were adequate arrangements for the animals’ health and welfare.

    “The sheep on this voyage … will suffer or (are) likely to suffer severe heat stress,” he said.

    “Some or many may die.”

    The legal action comes two months after Animals Australia released footage showing livestock in horrific conditions on an Emanuel Exports voyage to the Middle East in August 2017.

    It led to a review by livestock vet Michael McCarthy of live sheep exports during the Middle East summer, which made 23 recommendations but did not call for the practice to be banned.

    In court on Thursday, the agriculture department’s lawyer, Tom Howe QC, said the Al Messilah vessel which left Australia on June 6 was required to have a vet employed by the department onboard.

    From the Oz. Stand by for the banning of the live sheep trade, the price of sheep to fall to just over a third of what they were, the same as the last time, and the Greenies bleating that “you’ll just have to develop new markets.”

  222. Baldrick

    Ned Kelly embodies the spirit of the 1st AIF.

    Like fuck he does.

  223. cohenite

    If you’re not following @RealPeerReview on Twitter, you’re really missing out. The account, run by anonymous moderators, posts real abstracts from far-left-wing researcher papers.

    Yep, missing out on sleep from realising how much stupidity there is in the world. How can you take the words PhD after a name seriously?

  224. Armadillo

    Assuming that is Eastern time that would be 5 AM Australian Eastern.
    I designate Tom as the Cat correspondent on this one.

    Agreed. Tom’s “Toons and Loons” segment tomorrow morning.

  225. Stimpson J. Cat

    he should’ve been slogging through the jungles of Vietnam.

    Numbers!!!!
    Jellybeans!!!
    Could it be??!!

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    IIRC, he was teaching English at a Swiss Girl’s School when he should’ve been slogging through the jungles of Vietnam.

    Like Bill Clinton, you mean, studying at University, when the North Vietnamese Peoples Army could have used his sorry arse for target practice?

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