Open Forum: June 16, 2018

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  1. Peter Campion

    Channel 7 is running a footer saying the Libtards have voted to sell the ABC.

  2. Tintarella di Luna

    You’re up early too, Tinta. Hope all is well.
    Do you think Trudeau will ever recover from the ‘eyebrows’ episode? lol
    What a juvenile freak that man is.

    Making headway slowly with hope at our back. My favourite on Trudeau’s eyebrows is Trudeau seated with Trump and Trump holding out his hand with what looks like Trudeau’s black eyebrow, can’t find it on the ‘net but very funny.

  3. cohenite

    Perhaps you should educate yourself, Mark A. The list of secret contacts between the Trump campaign/administration and Russian agents is almost endless.

    Everyone a business dealing; you really are scum monster.

  4. stackja

    Child abuse apology means nothing without action
    PETA CREDLIN
    Peta Credlin
    June 17, 2018 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    So I ask you — how is leaving kids in households where you know family members will sexually exploit them any different from the bishops who shifted predators from parish to parish rather than report them to police and throw them into jail? Why do we bay for the blood of bishops, mostly long dead and sometimes ignorant of what was happening, but leave in place child protection officials presiding — right now — over a system that refuses to remove children from clear and present danger for fear of being labelled paternalist or racist?

    It’s culture over care that’s damaging these kids and it is gutless politicians, and child protection bureaucrats who take the line of least resistance, when what we need is leadership.

    So good on the Prime Minister for apologising for the errors of the past. I’m sure the victims still living will feel comforted; and they deserve to be acknowledged and helped.

    But before congratulating ourselves on our moral superiority, we must not ignore the horrors occurring today, lest a future prime minister feel the need to apologise for the official cover-up of the crimes of our time too.

  5. Peter Campion

    7 reports Libs voted overwhelmingly to sell the ABC.

    Wonders will never cease.

  6. calli

    7 reports Libs voted overwhelmingly to sell the ABC.

    Puff adders.

    It will never happen.

  7. Peter Campion

    Fifield told the Libs “it’ll never happen”.

    Stupid as ever…

  8. Tintarella di Luna

    I know there’s so much more important happening in the world, but this little interaction with someone a bit less lucky has stirred something. I would hope someone would help one of my kids in the same situation.

    mizaris, kudos to you – you are a gentle and kind man, how can we get that message out to the screaming harpies? Oh I see none are interested because all men a bastards so someone like you mizaris who did this kind act must have been transitioning.

  9. Marty

    Just read this in the Oz

    “There surely will be changes to the Australian side. Flanker Lukhan Tui is certainly to come into the selection frame, almost certainly at the expense of Queensland team-mate Caleb Timu, while Tolu Tatu could well apply pressure on Brandon Paenga-Amosa at hooker.”

    Good luck to these blokes and the time will surely come when the teams of the top rugby nations are composed completely of people of Pacific island decent. The West Indies cricket team is based on geography rather than country as is the Irish rugby team; perhaps the time has come to do the same in rugby for the Pacific islanders.

  10. “It will not, however, be possible for publicly-funded hospitals, no matter who their patron or owner is, to opt out of providing these necessary services which will be legal in this state once this legislation is passed by the Dáil (government) and Seanad (senate),” he warned.

    Watch how the Left will wheel out the same sort of legislation across other moral issues like euthanasia. The mask of ‘liberality neutrality’ has well and truly slipped.

  11. stackja

    Rugby has never seen another Brother Henry.

  12. Chris

    So selling off the ABC will ‘never happen’?
    Given the wrongology of the Parliamentary Libs, it looks like a ticket in ABC-FlogLotto could be a good investment.

    Seriously, this vote is a good move – a signal from the Party behind the elected Members that they still exist and are not MT’s lapdogs. Well, the ones remaining after the devastation anyway.

  13. areff

    Liberal Mutineers Call on Party Leaders to Sell ABC

    Great little party they’ve got there. Reps of the rank-and-file vote 2-to-1 to flog the Coalition’s greatest and most persistent media enemy, with not a single voice raised to defend the national broadcaster, and the leadership says,

    ‘Thanks for that advice, comrades, but we just love the bias, the slanders, the verballing, beatups and lies, so we won’t be doing a thing. Now drop dead, please, so we can enjoy Scrotumface’s Sunday show without distraction.’

  14. Peter Castieau

    Chris,

    If you are wanting a catch up with Perth Cats in July count me in.

  15. C.L.

    About once a year ABC Online runs an article featuring a lesbian-looking American nutball “social scientist” called Bella DePaulo about Western women staying single forever – which makes being really & truly happy. Today’s the day for 2018. These fabulously happy women are also more generous to others than married women – because they pop down to the shops for people and stuff:

    “From little things in everyday life, like a ride somewhere or help with an errand … single people are consistently there more often than married people,” Dr DePaulo said.

    Single people tend to participate more in civic groups and public events, and volunteer more often in their community, she said.

    Also by Bella DePaulo:

    SMH: I study liars. I’ve never seen one like President Trump.

    Huffington Post: Obama Restored Honor and Dignity to the White House. He’s the Real Thing.

  16. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume up.

    Moonlight Serenade – Deodato

  17. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2739063, posted on June 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm
    His defense argues that it’s impossible to avoid contact with witnesses when the prosecution won’t tell the court who the witnesses are.

    LOL what a pack of losers. The evidence submitted of his witness tampering is open-and-shut.

    I realise you must do your duty as a reactionary lackey of the fascist left Deep State establishment, but you need to try harder.

    The point was that the prosecution will not tell Manafort who the witnesses are. To prove tampering, they must prove Manafort knew that this character was a potential witness. He did not know that at the time.

    Seriously, are you related to Kafka?

  18. Gab

    I know there’s so much more important happening in the world…

    Nothing more important was happening in the world for those two young ladies you helped.

  19. Farmer Gez

    Single people tend to participate more in civic groups and public events, and volunteer more often in their community, she said.

    Yeh sure. Married women who aren’t at work do the lion’s share of community care work. I’m sure Bella thinks Gay/@Metoo marches are community work.

  20. Entropy

    Exactly Gez, what a crock of shit. She only gets attention because she mouths the right political views.

  21. Boambee John

    Oh Dot, you poor naive soul. Dershowitz has no authority.

    This was m0nty at 1216.

    Such a solid, logically argued, response!

  22. stackja

    C.L.
    #2739179, posted on June 17, 2018 at 8:41 am

    Religious Western women staying single forever.

  23. stackja

    Protective Service Officer patrols proposed after murder of comedian Eurydice Dixon
    Ashley Argoon, Rebekah Cavanagh and Anthony Dowsley, Sunday Herald Sun
    June 16, 2018 9:56pm
    Subscriber only
    A SWEEPING review of security across Melbourne will be launched after the murder of comedian Eurydice Dixon.

    Authorities will hold a meeting tomorrow to assess the city’s crime hot spots, police resources and the amount of CCTV and lighting.

    Police, government and councils will discuss whether Protective Service Officers should be moved to crime hot spots as well as patrolling public transport.

    ….

    Tomorrow night’s vigil is expected to draw thousands of people to Carlton North to remember the life of the talented 22-year-old.

    “We want to emphasise that women should have the right to walk where they want when they want,” Audrey Arjoune, one of the organisers, said.

    The family of Ms Dixon has put their support behind the cause but said they do not want the service to become aggressive.

    The Reclaim Princes Park vigil will be held from 5.30pm tomorrow, with more than 7700 Melburnians indicating they will attend.

  24. Tintarella di Luna

    Child abuse apology means nothing without action
    PETA CREDLIN
    Peta Credlin
    June 17, 2018 12:00am

    Thanks for posting that article, Peta Credlin very harshly and deservedly has called out the cultural cowards. Wasn’t it in 2002 that Nanette Rogers the chief prosecutor of the Northern Territory that dropped the bombshell about all this? A decade and a half, how many dead, violated, traumatised and damaged children will it take? How many is enough for the bureaucrats, because it is always always always the bureaucrats that run the show, the politicians are their snivelling gutless yapdogs.

    To paraphrase Jeremy Sammut in his excellent book The Madness of Australian Child Protection – The anti-removal movement uses, and arguably abuses, the memory of past practice to successful promote its anti-removal agenda. It is to this movement that we owe the conventional but misguided, and largely, unchallenged, wisdom that maltreated children are almost always better off being kept with their natural parents .. or in the indigenous community irrespective of the propensity or otherwise for abuse to endemic and pervasive.

    As with the bureaucracy’s trenchant anti-adoption stance, it was the embarrassment to the bureaucratic class caused by the hysteria and histrionics of the ‘Stolen Generation’ myth and before that the bureaucratic closed-book adoption stance, that has prompted the bureaucracy to continue to punish the source of the embarrassment – the children because they can on the pretext of not wanting to repeat the historical mistakes of the past. Such a shame Dante didn’t allocate a 10th circle of hell especially for bureaucrats.

  25. stackja

    Katie Bice: Truth is, we are never totally safe
    Katie Bice, Herald Sun
    June 16, 2018 4:33pm
    Subscriber only
    IT’S easier than you might imagine to find yourself walking alone at night.

    Suddenly it’s later than you thought, you’re not that far from home, you don’t want to pester anyone to pick you up or walk with you.

    Every woman in Melbourne has their own story of the time they did something they knew wasn’t exactly “safe” but seemed like the best option at the time.

    Mine was after a night out with workmates when, after spilling on to the city streets from a night of bad dancing and worse karaoke, we decided to head home.

    Katie Bice is Sunday Herald Sun deputy editor

  26. Farmer Gez

    The women of the house are off to a Debutante dress fitting and I’m alone with the Outsiders and Women who can’t dress themselves, special edition of Insiders.
    Check it out!

  27. a ticket in ABC-FlogLotto could be a good investment.

    I’m in.

  28. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2739194, posted on June 17, 2018 at 9:08 am

    Do we know how many ‘unstolen’ children died? If a birth is not registered? And how many child protection officials have faced investigation over recent events? So many questions.

  29. Nick

    Authorities will hold a meeting tomorrow to assess the city’s crime hot spots, police resources and the amount of CCTV and lighting.

    Princess Park would be a dark and lonely place on a cold winters night. I can’t believe that anyone would expect to walk across it and still feel safe.

  30. Chris

    How many is enough for the bureaucrats, because it is always always always the bureaucrats that run the show, the politicians are their snivelling gutless yapdogs.

    Also, I presume the bureaucrats consume the lions share of that $30B extra we spend on Aboriginal matters.

    Also be fair – the bureaucrats actually try do good stuff, and face the despair of knowing their efforts are in vain when they try to make things better. Its not their choices that make the dystopy what it is, but the Kulcha of their clients.

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    Do we know how many ‘unstolen’ children died? If a birth is not registered? And how many child protection officials have faced investigation over recent events? So many questions.

    So many questions to which the bureaucracy wants to ensure there are no answers.

  32. Tintarella di Luna

    Also be fair – the bureaucrats actually try do good stuff, and face the despair of knowing their efforts are in vain when they try to make things better. Its not their choices that make the dystopy what it is, but the Kulcha of their clients.

    Chris maybe you’re thinking of public servants — they are a totally different breed to bureaucrats, I know public servants who actually try to do good stuff and face the despair of being stymied, given short shrift and crushed by the bureaucrats who don’t give a tinker’s cuss about doing good, they’re all about the salary package and the perks.

  33. Death Giraffe

    Headline above the reader’s opinion column, San Diego Union Tribune:
    ..

    Trump’s foundness for dictators like Kim raises concerns

    ..
    I’m really quite found of Trump.

  34. Tom

    Doomlord now on Their Sky (Foxtel channel 600).

  35. Chris

    Chris maybe you’re thinking of public servants — they are a totally different breed to bureaucrats, I know public servants who actually try to do good stuff and face the despair of being stymied, given short shrift and crushed by the bureaucrats who don’t give a tinker’s cuss about doing good, they’re all about the salary package and the perks.

    Fair call.

  36. Nick

    The SMH wade further into loon territory printing this shit:

    Don’t kid yourself, Trump and Kim are up to no good

    This week I was shocked. Not because two of the most morally devoid men on the planet sat down to chat about nukes (if that was indeed the content of their chat). But because of the way the media responded to it.

    I have a bunch of other questions, too. Like, what did two of the most dangerous men in the world really talk about for two hours in a room, all alone? How does the US’s new apparent alliance with North Korea fit in with Trump thumbing his nose at America’s allies at the G7? Is Trump going to continue to sully the existing US relationships and alliances and forge new ones exclusively with dictators and fascists? What does Trump want?

    Seriously. Words fail me.

  37. John Constantine

    Their turnbull election winning machine must now ratchet up the mass importation of peasantistan voteherds, to lock in the support their abc needs to continue its freedom fighting revolutionary decolonialisation efforts.

    The deplorable proles attacking the Tone of their abc must be done over as brutally as Tommy Robinson was.

    Wait for objecting to their abc to become a Fixated Individual crime of Domestic Terrorism.

    We already see their abc positioning themselves to demand taxfunded bollards and armed security, and new offices whenever to sick abc individuals demonstrate a Cancer Cluster.

    Fortress ABC, their reich vill last vun tousan’ year.

    Comrades.

  38. miltonf

    The SMH wade further into loon territory printing this shit

    The Sydney Morning Vomit has been a loathsome rag for at least 35 years. Max Walsh…Margaret Jones etc

  39. John Constantine

    Thousands of melbournistani wymynsys sign up to strip naked in public to protest the patriarchy.

    https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/melbourne-woolies-tunick-nudes-backflip/news-story/e186b57e5ceb20a94612489d64853acf

    “Supermarket chain Woolworths has reportedly changed its mind and will allow a Melbourne car park to be the scene of a nude shoot by world-renowned photographer Spencer Tunick.

    Woolies says it will now be able to clear the Prahran rooftop car park for the mid-winter Monday morning group shot, according to the Herald Sun.

    Thousands have signed up to pose for New York-based Tunick as part of the Provocare Festival of the Arts in July.

    Five thousand people posed for him on the Princes Bridge when he visited Melbourne in 2001.”

    Tits Out for the Revolution against sexist males.

    Comrades.

  40. nemkat

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2739194
    Child abuse apology means nothing without action
    PETA CREDLIN

    Here’s the thing, though:
    Every single atrocity that happens WRT Aborigines is headline news, the Why Oh Why Oh Why crowd letch onto it like seagulls onto a bag of chips, now Catholic Schoolgirl Peta Credlin is screeching her banal inanities.
    Excising children from the only family they’ve ever known hasn’t worked in the past, isn’t working now, and won’t work in the future.
    Time for a change.

  41. Tintarella di Luna

    The SMH wade further into loon territory printing this shit

    There was a time when the local IGA tried to give this rag away for free at the checkout. I would politely thank the cashier and say no thank you I usually try not to take rubbish home and besides the SMH is totally useless even to line the bird cage because it’s full of crap already.

  42. .

    None
    #2739156, posted on June 17, 2018 at 7:35 am
    Life under the Gaystapo is such fun https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-irish-prime-minister-catholic-hospitals-will-be-required-to-abort-babie Brendan O’Neill, a lefty no less, but nevertheless a libertarian, had warned and warned about the illiberal authoritarianism of the Gaystapo.

    It’s amazing. Everything you just said is wrong.

    There are no “left-libertarians”.
    No libertarian would tell a doctor or patient how they ought to take treatment or do their job.

  43. DrBeauGan

    Nick
    #2739215, posted on June 17, 2018 at 9:34 am
    The SMH wade further into loon territory printing this shit:

    Don’t kid yourself, Trump and Kim are up to no good

    This week I was shocked. Not because two of the most morally devoid men on the planet sat down to chat about nukes (if that was indeed the content of their chat). But because of the way the media responded to it.

    I have a bunch of other questions, too. Like, what did two of the most dangerous men in the world really talk about for two hours in a room, all alone? How does the US’s new apparent alliance with North Korea fit in with Trump thumbing his nose at America’s allies at the G7? Is Trump going to continue to sully the existing US relationships and alliances and forge new ones exclusively with dictators and fascists? What does Trump want?

    Seriously. Words fail me.

    This is m0nty level stuff, Nick. You can practically see the bafflement at the entire world in it. It would be cruel to laugh. Wrong to mock the afflicted, and all that.

  44. Chris

    Tits Out for the Revolution against sexist males.

    I am not at all sure this is like that. I think its Tits Out for Art.

  45. Entropy

    Being a public servant bureaucrat, I take at least a bit of issue with that Tinta. Not all Bureaucrats.

    There certainly has been serious growth in the number of bureaucrats who only look inside the public service, like it is an end to itself. Corporate areas, for example are rapidly growing and extending themselves in internal virtue signalling campaigns, with associated clipboard warriors endlessly reporting the Good Deeds Done in the workplace.

    And think about it. Counter staff roles at a place like Centrelink isn’t going to attract high achievers, and if one was appointed there by mistake, it would be beaten out of them quick smart by the average clientele.

    But I do think there would a real benefit if the bureaucrats writing the policies were also required to run the program delivering it on the ground. Might make them more practical, more aware of the impact and unintended consequences of the program, and better policy writers. Such a policy would meet entrenched resistance of course: it means the policy writer would need to have knowledge of the field. Can’t have that. Icky. And likely to interfere with the career path of the modern policy graduate of some useless journalism or political science course from some Dawkins Uni.

  46. Nick

    SMH is totally useless even to line the bird cage because it’s full of crap already.

    I know Tint, though there are times it goes even beyond that

  47. miltonf

    Yeah they were giving it away at my gym about ten years ago.

  48. Snoopy

    Perhaps you should educate yourself, Mark A. The list of secret contacts between the Trump campaign/administration and Russian agents is almost endless.

    I visited Moscow during the USSR days. I later had a conversation with someone who had meetings with President George W Bush.

    You’d better report me to ASIO and the FBI, Monty.

  49. zyconoclast

    Channel 7 is running a footer saying the Libtards have voted to sell the ABC.

    Sounds like fake news that the Liberals will reduce debt and deficits, cut taxes, cut regulations, remove ruinable energy subsidies, cut immigration to less than 10k, withdraw from mosts UN conventions…

  50. Death Giraffe

    Local state Liberal candidate knocked on my door yesterday.
    Nice bird.
    I told her to push off, I’m a conservative.
    She looked delighted. “So am I” says she.
    “Then what the bloody hell are you doing in the Liberals”?
    Apparently there are a lot like her, trying to push the party in a conservative direction.
    Long discussion ensued. I really wish her good luck, but I think they are pushing it up hill with that party.

  51. miltonf

    The Age and SMH rally zombie publications now. Last year or maybe ’16 they announced the Aged would be online only then the changed their minds. They must to bleeding cash at a horrendous rate. I think the Aged still gets Vico gov advertising.

  52. John Constantine

    What do we want?

    Taxfunded payments to all mothers of all children regardless of who the babydaddy is.

    When do we want it?

    Now.

  53. Entropy

    Excising children from the only family they’ve ever known hasn’t worked in the past, isn’t working now, and won’t work in the future.

    Obviously not true, although sometimes, even a fair bit of the time it doesn’t. But your alternative will leave the child to be raped by their relatives. You have no moral position on this.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    Thousands of melbournistani wymynsys sign up to strip naked in public to protest the patriarchy.
    Woolies says it will now be able to clear the Prahran rooftop car park for the mid-winter Monday morning group shot, according to the Herald Sun.

    Fake! By Monday 25 June day length will have increased by 0:10 seconds. The patriarchy is safe, as mid- winter has well and truly passed.

  55. .

    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    The attitudes behind the policies that led to mission station were misguided. Some Parliamentarians spoke up about it (I can dig up references if anyone is interested. I’ve met old Aborigines who were glad they were taken away too.

    Myall Creek was immoral.

  56. John Constantine

    “Throughout her life, a woman remained living in the same household with her mother and siblings. Children would be raised by a confederacy of mothers, daughters and sisters, backed up by male kin and possessing sufficient solidarity and authority to prevent any husband from taking them away or breaking them apart. A certain loose kind of ‘marriage’ was consistent with these arrangements, but in-marrying spouses had to agree to visit their brides within these women’s communal home. No woman could be privatised by her spouse or taken away.

    According to Morgan, this arrangement – known technically as ‘matrilocal residence’ – originally prevailed in all human societies across the world. So what happened to change such time-honoured arrangements? According to Morgan, the key factor was the domestication of animals, notably cattle.”

    Is this why their left hate cattle and demand veganism?.

    Comrades?.

  57. Baldrick

    Liberal Mutineers Call on Party Leaders to Sell ABC

    “The qualitative evidence is the ABC does matter. The Liberal Party base, not so much.” Mark Textor said.

  58. .

    How does the US’s new apparent alliance with North Korea

    I missed the bit where NK joined NATO/Five Eyes.

    monty, when did that happen?

  59. zyconoclast

    Thousands have signed up to pose for New York-based Tunick as part of the Provocare Festival of the Arts in July.

    I had never heard of this Provocare.
    My favourite from their website.

  60. .

    If anyone “really” knows how marriage and family life occurred prior to writing, ask them what powers their time machine.

  61. Snoopy

    But I do think there would a real benefit if the bureaucrats writing the policies were also required to run the program delivering it on the ground.

    But why are public servants writing policies? The role of public servants should be limited to nothing more than what is necessary to implement government legislation.

  62. BrettW

    Seems Washington Post staff not happy with owner Jeff Bezos and their pay and conditions and have put up public petition asking him to share his wealth.

  63. miltonf

    Latho this morning-
    Today I’m joining the campaign to condemn any police officer who urges the public to avoid dark, isolated and potentially dangerous places.
    How dare you guys try and keep people as safe as possible. Is that really your job?

  64. Entropy

    Is this why their left hate cattle and demand veganism?.

    Would not be surprised. And wrong as usual. Before cattle herding, denizens of hunter gatherer society were eating mammoth ribs when they weren’t being eaten themselves by Sabre tooth tigers and cave bears.

    This study is a crock of shit of course. If you need a template for how primitive ‘man’ was organised, look at other primates like chimpanzees.

  65. .

    But why are public servants writing policies? The role of public servants should be limited to nothing more than what is necessary to implement government legislation.

    Damn right.

    The really odious one is when cops write policies beyond their own internal rules.

    “We invited Police Commissioners for input on new gun laws…”

    Maybe Ned Kelly was right!

  66. nemkat

    Entropy
    #2739238

    Excising children from the only family they’ve ever known hasn’t worked in the past, isn’t working now, and won’t work in the future.

    Obviously not true, although sometimes, even a fair bit of the time it doesn’t. But your alternative will leave the child to be raped by their relatives. You have no moral position on this.
    If you believe that, then you must believe all Aboriginal children must be removed from their family at birth.
    The facts are, children are miles better off living with their families.
    If there are problems with hygiene and nutrition, that’s what the $30 billion per annum is for.

  67. miltonf

    I see Megalogenis is slagging off on Australia in the NYT

  68. John Constantine

    Basically, their left demand Matrilocal Residence, where communes of wymynsys can be funded by taxes on men to live with kids sired under a regime of ‘Partible Paternity’,where being happy for the children is the wymynsys job, and paying the bills through the tax system is the job of all men, especially the 90 percent that will never father children under the scheme when taken to its extreme conclusion.

    Godless commo hippiedom has only never worked because we didn’t empower the wymynsys into matrilocal communes with partible babydaddies funded by the taxes of the State-Husband-Father.

    http://libcom.org/history/engels-was-right-early-human-kinship-was-matrilineal

    “women’s reproductive interests are best served if mate choice is a non-binding, female decision; if there is a network of multiple females to aid or substitute for a woman in mothering responsibilities; if male support for a woman and her children comes from multiple men; and if a woman is shielded from the effects of male sexual jealousy. ”

    Straight out of the Engels Manifesto comes the new fundamental transformation of marriage in Australia.

    Comrade Partible Babydaddies.

  69. Gary

    Entropy

    #2739238, posted on June 17, 2018 at 9:53 am

    Excising children from the only family they’ve ever known hasn’t worked in the past, isn’t working now, and won’t work in the future.

    Obviously not true, although sometimes, even a fair bit of the time it doesn’t. But your alternative will leave the child to be raped by their relatives. You have no moral position on this

    This has been a recurring theme with nemkat

  70. Top Ender

    Daughter’s Year 10 English Exam
    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    Get up to the school and demand an explanation of what the question has to do with English.

  71. nemkat

    This study is a crock of shit of course. If you need a template for how primitive ‘man’ was organised, look at other primates like chimpanzees.

    Humans aren’t descended from chimpanzees, and the organisation of primitive societies can’t be compared with chimpanzees.
    No surprise that the Aboriginal Welfare bureaucracy is a disaster, if it’s full of people like you, who consider Aborigines to be comparable with chimpanzees.

  72. 132andBush

    “A” grade trolling there, nemkat.
    Well done.

    Fuckwit

  73. C.L.

    A SWEEPING review of security across Melbourne will be launched after the murder of comedian Eurydice Dixon.

    Authorities will hold a meeting tomorrow to assess the city’s crime hot spots, police resources and the amount of CCTV and lighting.

    Police, government and councils will discuss whether Protective Service Officers should be moved to crime hot spots as well as patrolling public transport.

    That last sentence is astonishing.
    Police will “discuss” whether they should more their attention to … crime hot spots.
    You read that right.

  74. Baldrick

    “This is our royal baby.”

    Socialist royalty! Huh?

  75. nemkat

    Police, government and councils will discuss whether Protective Service Officers should be moved to crime hot spots as well as patrolling public transport.

    Princes Park at midnight could hardly be called a ”Crime Hot Spot”, so the cops must have something else in mind.

  76. C.L.

    Manafort wasn’t told who the “witnesses” were precisely so he could be wiretapped speaking to people – potentially exposing himself (or them) to further charges.

  77. struth

    Every single atrocity that happens WRT Aborigines is headline news,

    FMD.

    I was going to hahahahahahahaha that, but that level of ignorance is just sad.

  78. Nick

    Today I’m joining the campaign to condemn any police officer who urges the public to avoid dark, isolated and potentially dangerous places.

    I don’t get it. Ms Dixon was murdered not far from where Eddie Lionski murdered women back in the 40s. Of course she has the right to walk at night and not be attacked, by why walk across a badly lit, quiet park? What was she going to do when she hit the cemetery ?

    What I’m saying is that we have a generation that are told by their parents that it’s unsafe to take a bus to high school when the same kids are told it’s safe and ok to walk across a dark and lonely park at 1030 on a winters night.

  79. struth

    Jacinta’s baby should be able to stand shortly after birth and be grazing shortly thereafter.

  80. John Constantine

    Tits out for the Revolution against Male sexual jealousy and to protest the patriarchal impoverishment of wymynsys right to boldy go as naked as they want, when they want, where they want.

    https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/spencer-tunick-returns-to-melbourne-for-mass-nude-photographs-in-2018-20180503-p4zd3x.html

    http://www.provocare.com.au/tunick/

    Comrades.

  81. Nick

    “This is our royal baby.”

    I suspect she means it is inbred.

  82. Snoopy

    Manafort wasn’t told who the “witnesses” were precisely so he could be wiretapped speaking to people – potentially exposing himself (or them) to further charges.

    Exactly. Anyone known to Manafort is a potential ‘witness’.

  83. Chris

    That last sentence is astonishing.
    Police will “discuss” whether they should more their attention to … crime hot spots.
    You read that right.

    No, they discuss moving Not-A-Cops whose job is to make public transport safer, to patrol where Police have supposed responsibility.

  84. Entropy

    Isn’t that writing policy, Snoopy?
    Also, most of a policy officers’ time, when not filing reports for corporate HR, is filled writing replies to ministerial correspondence. A three line email fired off by a grumpy stakeholder late one night on the piss, by the time it has gone from the Minister’s office then down through the department to a junior underling to write a reply, then up through the approval chain would easily cost the taxpayer more than a $1000 in wages.

    I get what you are saying though. Politicians are elected with election commitments. Public servants write them up to implement*. Far too many modern public servants, particularly younger ones, do not seem to factor their boss (the Minister) in their thoughts at all. This is very apparent when interviewing applicants for a job. They have the process down pat except for the bit finding out what it is the minister/government wants to do. In their world the government role is to implement the public service’s direction, at best a difficult stakeholder to factor in and manipulate, a reversal of the Westminster system.

    It can happen to the public servant on the ground too though. They do not meet the politicians, at best maybe once in a minister’s career, while they meet the public and various stakeholders everyday. This is even more pronounced in regional areas. This means they forget who they work for, forget they are paid as an instrument to deliver the Minister’s policy. Now, it might be the Minister’s policy is a crock, but the point is they were elected to implement it. The public servant has not been elected. If they want to do something different, or want to publically disagree with the government’s policy, they should stand for election.

    * a complication is incumbent governments relying on the public service to develop policy options that miraculously become election commitments, much more professional looking and developed than the much less resourced opposition.

  85. struth

    The attitudes behind the policies that led to mission station were misguided.

    Howso?

    Alternatives?

    Mission stations were doing well , generally speaking and definitely so for the times they existed.
    Handing them over to aboriginals (the government) and creating a welfare enclave in the middle of bumfuck was the problem.

  86. Tintarella di Luna

    Being a public servant bureaucrat

    Entropy you are are the exception that proves the existence of the rule – a public servant bureaucrat does not come within the ambit of my criticism.

    I absolutely agree with your proposition that

    bureaucrats writing the policies were also required to run the program delivering it on the ground

    . Unfortunately Thomas Sowell’s observation is what actually happens:

    on issues ranging across the spectrum from housing policies to laws governing organ transplants intellectuals have sought to have decision-making discretion taken from those directly involved, who have personal knowledge and a personal stake, and transferred to third parties who have neither, and who pay no price for being wrong

  87. struth

    Tits out for the Revolution against Male sexual jealousy and to protest the patriarchal impoverishment of wymynsys right to boldy go as naked as they want, when they want, where they want.

    Yep, all for this.

    Sorry, what was the reason again?

  88. miltonf

    “This is our royal baby.”

    Well most of the real royals seemed to have lined up with the international left.

  89. Tintarella di Luna

    Watching taped Outsiders program — Ross Cameron is proudly wearing a T-shirt with the Rabz doctrine emblazoned thereon. The Doomlord is absolutely withering about the ABC — thank you Professor.

  90. Top Ender

    More Cloive!

    After weeks of denials, controversial businessman Clive Palmer has announced a move back into the political arena.

    Mr Palmer, the federal member for Fairfax from 2013-16, says the Palmer United Party has changed its name to the United Australia Party, and would contest the next federal election.

    He claims the “re-establishment” of a UAP, which former prime ministers Joseph Lyons and Robert Menzies once served under, was a significant milestone in Australian political history.

    “Its re-establishment today marks a significant milestone in the history of Australian politics,” Palmer tweeted.

    “All Australians are tired of our current crop of politicians. It is time to unite the country for stronger economic growth that can restore prosperity to all our citizens.”

  91. None

    I see Megalogenis is slagging off on Australia in the NYT

    One more time with feeling: deport the Greeks. Seriously. Deport them all.

  92. Andreas

    Victorian police fine you for leaving your car unlocked, if these morons were consistent they’d fine women for being alone on the street at night.

  93. nemkat

    Everyone’s got the Right to walk thru the middle of nowhere on a dark, windy, woisterous night, and if they choose to exercise that Right, then they’ve taken responsibility. That’s it.
    The woman was a Compulsive, she was going to find trouble, sooner or later.

  94. struth

    One more time with feeling: deport the Greeks. Seriously. Deport them all.

    There goes our waxing industry.

  95. miltonf

    “All Australians are tired of our current crop of politicians. It is time to unite the country for stronger economic growth that can restore prosperity to all our citizens.”

    Yeah ones like him.

  96. None

    Jacinta’s baby should be able to stand shortly after birth and be grazing shortly thereafter.

    Gold.

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daughter’s Year 10 English Exam
    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    Children, whose parents were deemed incapable of caring for them, were placed in care no matter what their race?

  98. Chris

    A three line email fired off by a grumpy stakeholder late one night on the piss, by the time it has gone from the Minister’s office then down through the department to a junior underling to write a reply, then up through the approval chain would easily cost the taxpayer more than a $1000 in wages.

    I spent an entertaining few months trying to do this to the Police Ministers office in WA, trying to get useful data on how the licensing services work and not incidentally to cause major frustrating work for that capricious and selective bunch of no-sayers.

  99. None

    There goes our waxing industry.

    Don’t worry. The Lebanese took over years ago.

  100. John Constantine:

    Just as putting people on disability cuts the unemployment rate, so does refusing to arrest diversity crims and putting them into diversion programs and community cultural programs and deradicalisation programs reduce the arrest and conviction rates.

    We watched the very same thing happen during the Vietnam War when the US tried to administratively reduce the criminal offences ocurring there.
    The root causes were not addressed.
    It took the US Armed Forces decades of introspection to regain its cutting edge and become capable of carrying out Desert Storm.
    Australia can expect no less if our Justice / Law enforcement system doesn’t address the root causes of the conversion of Australian society into a low trust one.
    I feel like a parent watching a toddler testing power points with a fork and being unable to stop it.

  101. C.L.

    The woman was a Compulsive, she was going to find trouble, sooner or later.

    Let’s not get too carried away.

  102. Tintarella di Luna

    Mission stations were doing well , generally speaking and definitely so for the times they existed.
    Handing them over to aboriginals (the government) and creating a welfare enclave in the middle of bumfuck was the problem.

    Joe Lane actually went to the source documents – Joe’s article in Quadrant is very interesting on this point

  103. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tits out for the Revolution against Male sexual jealousy and to protest the patriarchal impoverishment of wymynsys

    This being a photograph of amassed wimminzes, and for public consumption, I hope the artist behind the lens remembers to affix the fat filter.

  104. Mater

    Every single atrocity that happens WRT Aborigines is headline news,

    Only if it can twisted to incorporate some anti-white sentiment.

  105. Snoopy

    Mueller’s team has said that two days later, Manafort sent D1 an encrypted message

    Oooh, spooky, spook, spook. Nah, what he did was send someone a WhatsApp message as do hundreds of millions of people around the world every day.

  106. .

    Howso?

    Alternatives?

    Mission stations were doing well , generally speaking and definitely so for the times they existed.

    I acknowledged that quite a few people raised on missions had a positive view of them.

    They were misguided. They were based on paternalism and racial superiority.

    Aborigines integrated very early on. What the left have now and society implemented back under the Aboriginal Protection legislation was the bigotry of low expectations (see Sowell for more).

    Should more families (regardless of race) have their kids taken off them these days?

    I would suggest so but then someone will post a video about how foster families are abusive.

    Generational welfare is what ultimately hurts most children today.

    I heard a justification for welfare the other day that was sickening: “It means employers aren’t burdened with useless fuckwits…” the person who said it votes left, so I was struck by the irony. It is also embedded with the bigotry of expectations and a lack of awareness of the costs of welfare and obviously no skin in the game.

  107. struth

    I would like to ask all women to get their tits out for any injustice they perceive to exist.

    Please write injustice in small letters on tits, so that we have to get real close to read it.
    Being males, the terrible Neanderthals we are, it could take some time to read the message.

  108. Tom at 2047;

    On second thoughts, I’m not surprised. The news media that used to be the public’s eyes and ears is now the establishment’s propaganda megaphone.

    Yep. The Marxists spotted the weak point of Democracy: If you control the source of information then you control the information itself.

  109. DrBeauGan

    Prime ministering can’t be very difficult if a dim bulb like Jacinda can do it part time.

  110. None

    That last sentence is astonishing.
    Police will “discuss” whether they should more their attention to … crime hot spots.
    You read that right.

    Yes I noticed that too. It prompts one to ask where their attention has been in the meantime. Safe spaces? Their navel? I don’t like slagging off our police forces but in the case of Victoria, they, or at least their seniors, are corrupt. Either that or flaccid, like the cop who suggested people not engage in risky behaviour and then folded faster than a deck chair.
    Drop your gun!
    No.
    Oh, ok then. Would you like to shoot me now or later?

  111. Des Deskperson

    ‘Chris maybe you’re thinking of public servants — they are a totally different breed to bureaucrats,’

    I’ve yet to be convinced that the key issues facing the public service or at least the APS – under-performance, lack of accountability, patronage of mates and mate- esses – are all that different from from any large hierarchical, ‘knowledgd-based’ ssemi-monopoly private sector bureaucracy – a bank or an insurance company.

    Even Entropy’s point about the growth of virtue-signalling corporate empires in the APS – unaccountable, never effectively monitored or audited, attracting the otherwise useless – seems to be paralleled in private sector bureaucracies.

  112. None

    John Constantine
    #2739258, posted on June 17, 2018 at 10:08 am

    You just gave us a description of hell. *shudder*

  113. Shy Ted

    Two comments about Insiders today which I listened to on the morning walk, noting that SA has 100% cloud cover and no wind. If Ringabell Crab ever hosts Q&A put me down for 472 interruptions. And if they do ever sell the ABC Ms Crab is going to struggle to get another job.

  114. Confused Old Misfit

    Everyone’s got the Right to walk thru the middle of nowhere on a dark, windy, woisterous night, and if they choose to exercise that Right, then they’ve taken responsibility.

    And that should be an end of it.
    Except that it would not fit the objectives of progressive feminists.

  115. Snoopy

    Also, most of a policy officers’ time, when not filing reports for corporate HR, is filled writing replies to ministerial correspondence. A three line email fired off by a grumpy stakeholder late one night on the piss, by the time it has gone from the Minister’s office then down through the department to a junior underling to write a reply, then up through the approval chain would easily cost the taxpayer more than a $1000 in wages.

    Way more than a $1000 if the email is cc’d to the Premier, the Leader of the Opposition and a couple of random Ministers. 😂

    Eight or ten people with knowledge of a department’s activities and skeletons, a bit of cunning and time on their hands could paralyse a department.

  116. struth

    They were misguided. They were based on paternalism and racial superiority.

    You’ve been very brainwashed lately while becoming a liar, I mean Lawyer.
    Quoting academic knobs again, but I see deflecting and not answering , indeed just changing the subject, you must have passed with honours.

    Aborigines integrated very early on. What the left have now and society implemented back under the Aboriginal Protection legislation was the bigotry of low expectations (see Sowell for more).

    Thanks mostly to missions, aborigines did integrate very early on.
    Then came welfare, which is the policy of low expectations you talk about.

    Yes there was terrible racial superiority.
    Practiced by the blacks, who would kill the babies of mixed or outlawed unions, hence the need for the removal of only half castes.
    Their mothers gave them up for their own safety.
    These are facts, and strict rules on who could sleep with who and punishment are very well documented.

  117. None

    Des Deskperson
    #2739311, posted on June 17, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Tend to agree Des. Although if you got rid of 50% of public servants – local, state and federal – no one would notice. Well you might notice more money in your pocket. If you got rid of 50% of the corporate busy bodies, fascist CEOs like Alan Joyce would have an existential crisis.

  118. Geriatric Mayfly

    Jacinta’s baby should be able to stand shortly after birth and be grazing shortly thereafter.

    It being winter, nourishing grasses in short supply. Farmer Cats please donate hay to compensate. Arranged in decorative sheaves, tied with either pink or blue ribbons would be a fitting touch.

  119. nemkat

    Mater
    #2739303

    Every single atrocity that happens WRT Aborigines is headline news,

    Only if it can twisted to incorporate some anti-white sentiment.

    No, the solution always seems to be Removal Of Children, no matter the alleged ”problem”, so the obvious conclusion must be:
    The only raison détre for the Federal Aboriginal Bureaucracy is the removal of children, and the destruction of the Aboriginal Family.

  120. .

    No struth, the idea that the Aborigines were a dying race was misguided and terribly racist.

    Quoting academic knobs again, but I see deflecting and not answering , indeed just changing the subject, you must have passed with honours.

    Whilst unis are full of unemployable dim bulbs, don’t go full on anti-intellectual. It’s just stupid old mate.

    Thanks mostly to missions, aborigines did integrate very early on.

    What? In 1790 when they were integrated into early Sydney?

    Aboriginal protection legislation pertaining to mission stations came about from around 1880 to the start of WWI.

    These are facts, and strict rules on who could sleep with who and punishment are very well documented.

    Maybe some of those academic knobs get things right at least twice a day.

  121. None

    Arranged in decorative sheaves, tied with either pink or blue ribbons would be a fitting touch.

    Such gender imperialism won’t do for the royal beaver. I suggest a set of rainbow-coloured teeth braces and a packet of dental rubber…bands.

  122. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Daughter’s Year 10 English Exam
    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.
    Daughter wrote ‘none- Stolen Generations didn’t happen’
    Got 0 marks, but a gold star from dad!

    Well done that girl. It is a shame she didn’t write a more detailed account of how much researched historical disproof (and legal disproof when it comes to cases) there is of any stolen generations, citing at least Brunton and Windschuttle, and pointing to the difference between some settler attitudes and actual policies of governments which were largely protective, and also suggesting how much good work was done by missions at the time. She could add too that attitudes to children in general, and not just aboriginal children, were very different in past times to attitudes at present. She could then conclude discussion by noting the recent huge sums largely misspent by governments on assisting aboriginal development, and the current high levels of child abuse in aboriginal communities that are leading to a new debate on and understanding of child removal needs, both current and in the past. She could also have pointed to variations in moral attitudes today about investigating such abuse in aboriginal communities vis a vis other communities and reflect that this is due to a highly politicised and contentious interpretation of past policies that also tried to address child neglect and abuse in aboriginal families within the terms of their times and not within the terms of today’s viewpoints.

    Personally, I would complain to the school about asking schoolchildren such a loaded and biased question and discuss some of these points above with the relevant teachers and require my child to have the opportunity to be examined properly on the issues. I would also ask whether the teachers were aware that the movie ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’ was fiction and not established fact.

  123. Snoopy

    Even Entropy’s point about the growth of virtue-signalling corporate empires in the APS – unaccountable, never effectively monitored or audited, attracting the otherwise useless – seems to be paralleled in private sector bureaucracies.

    Paralleled? A massive understatement.

  124. Cactus

    On the Stolen Gen english test thing. I recall in English class a question along the lines of Discuss how racism impacts society today? I wrote about how Aboriginal welfare and schemes were systemically racist, dividing our country by race. I also went on to argue that we could never truly heal any divisions of the past while the government treats us differently cause skin colour. My teacher who was a lefty treated my effort very fairly. Think i got a B or something. I was marked down for not nailing sentance structure or grammer which was all very fair. No marks down for content.

  125. Des Deskperson

    ‘Also, most of a policy officers’ time, when not filing reports for corporate HR, is filled writing replies to ministerial correspondence. ‘

    Sir Arthur Tange, when he wan’t working out ways too humiliate the ADF, collectively and individually, used to say that every public servant, no matter what their actual job, was a policy officer because they all, in one way or another, contributed to or facilitated the implementation and delivery of government policies.

  126. Bela Bartok

    Serena at the Pub
    #2739123, posted on June 17, 2018 at 1:56 am
    Is this a joke?

    Daughter’s Year 10 English Exam
    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    Unfortunately not – deadly serious.
    Investigations by Bartok the Elder at the school were met with a doubling down of their position, plus excerpts from the curriculum that supports their position – as written by the government (ACARA)

    Thanks for wanting to employ Miss Bartok – she’d be up for it, as she’s now being ostracized for having the wrong opinion… this at a Catholic school where the woke students support (endorse) gay marriage…
    Sigh

  127. Boambee John

    Does the reactionary lackey of the left fascist establishment, m0nty, only do the late night shift so he can avoid seeing the mirth his stupidity arouses?

    “If you talk to any potential witnesses, you will be thrown in jail!”

    “Whom should I avoid?”

    “Not going to tell you, nyah, nyah, nyah. See you in jail!”

    m0nty thinks this is justice (but only when it is applied to non-lefties, outrageous if applied to lefties).

  128. nemkat

    Let’s look at Eurydice Dixon: Her mother was a lesbian, a Radical Separatist, and a junkie, who either ODed or suicided at a Shopping Centre when the girl was 7.
    If Eurydice had been removed from her nutcase parents, would she be alive today? Quite likely.

    Yet even the suggestion sounds stupid.
    How much more stupid, then, the removal of Aboriginal Children simply because they’re Aboriginal?

  129. Snoopy

    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    I wonder how the answers were marked? Spelling, grammar and clarity or just feelz?

  130. Pickles:

    Great Pink Floyd clip Steve. They always did very well with the back up singers, but the lass on the right is one of the best.

    I played it twice just to watch her take a deep breath.

  131. Chris

    Trolls are so low energy.
    Sad.

  132. Farmer Gez

    It being winter, nourishing grasses in short supply. Farmer Cats please donate hay to compensate. Arranged in decorative sheaves, tied with either pink or blue ribbons would be a fitting touch.

    Nah. Like all feminist poddy calves, Jacinda’s offspring will go straight onto the public teat.

  133. herodotus

    The immoral attitude that led to the “stolen generations” myth and continued the narrative to this day is lying, repeatedly lying in the face of all evidence, and believing that you’re doing the right thing in lying.

  134. areff

    God, they’re hopeless. Moving now on the AAP wire:

    ABC should never be sold: Fischer

    • CANBERRA, AAP – Former Nationals leader and deputy prime minister Tim Fischer has defended the public funding of the ABC, in stark contrast to Liberal party membership.

    On Saturday, the Liberal federal council passed a motion with a two-to-one majority calling on the coalition to sell off the ABC, except for in regional areas.

    “Good, bad or interesting, the ABC is part of the core, official fabric of the nation and should never be sold,” Mr Fischer told AAP on Sunday.

    Government frontbencher Josh Frydenberg backed Saturday’s assurance from Treasurer Scott Morrison that the government had no plans for privatisation.

    “The Liberal party membership are entitled to their views and are as frustrated as we are from time to time about the coverage on the ABC,” Mr Frydenberg told Sky News on Sunday.

    “But the reality is this is an iconic national institution which will remain in the public’s hands.”

    But Labor has already latched onto the success of the federal council motion to claim a vote for the coalition is a vote against the ABC.

    “It’s official, the Liberals do not support public broadcasting and want to sell off the ABC,” Labor communication spokeswoman Michelle Rowland said.

    “The out-of-touch Liberals want to dismantle a vital institution in our democracy and silence the independent voice that has spoken to and of our nation for over 85 years.”

    Ms Rowland claimed privatising the ABC could mean advertisements during programming and putting high-quality Australian content behind a paywall.

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I would also ask whether the teachers were aware that the movie ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’ was fiction and not established fact.

    My family were farming on the Rabbit Proof Fence at the time that film was set. None of the old timers ever remembered three Aboriginal girls, or a police party looking for them. However, the local school showed the film so many times that the children really couldn’t have cared less.

  136. Tom

    … if they do ever sell the ABC Ms Crab is going to struggle to get another job.

    Not just Annabel Crabb — the whole ABC 4000 staff would struggle to get a job in a business that had to compete. The ABC not only isn’t required to compete, it is cocooned by the APS with wages and work conditions that no organisation in the competitive economy could or would offer.

    So who thrives at the ABC? People who tick all the APS boxes. People with the correct tribal identity (Greens voters). People who are not very good at their jobs.

    Which other organisation would appoint someone who doesn’t understand basic economics as its economics editor on big money ($250K+)? Answer: an organisation that doesn’t have competitive KPI.

  137. None

    Thanks for wanting to employ Miss Bartok – she’d be up for it, as she’s now being ostracized for having the wrong opinion… this at a Catholic school where the woke students support (endorse) gay marriage…
    Sigh

    Miss Bartok is a champion. She has more courage in her little finger than the said woke students. I would also put in a complaint to the local Catholic education board if she gets bullied for having an opinion with a little drop copy to the relevant bishop. I would also notify selected media. Sunshine is always the best disinfectant.
    I too, would gladly employ her if I had an opportunity. Integrity and courage are such rare commodities in this day and age. For the next essay encourage her to also give reasons why the question is daft. Stay strong Miss Bartok.

  138. feelthebern

    Please do not mention Merkel & climaxes in the same sentence.

  139. zyconoclast

    ABC should never be sold: Fischer

    • CANBERRA, AAP – Former Nationals leader and deputy prime minister Tim Fischer has defended the public funding of the ABC, in stark contrast to Liberal party membership.

    Would the geriatric Fischer agree to sell the ABC if we bought him an electric train set?

  140. None

    My family were farming on the Rabbit Proof Fence at the time that film was set. None of the old timers ever remembered three Aboriginal girls, or a police party looking for them. However, the local school showed the film so many times that the children really couldn’t have cared less.

    Rabbit Proof Fence is fiction. There is a whole bunch of literature around this black armband history theme that has been used either intentionally or non intentionally to create false memories. It is insidious. We are raising a generation of bimbos and liars.

  141. feelthebern

    Australian sport in the last 24 hours.
    Rugby: Is was a set up so next weekend is a sell out & rates well as it is the series decider.
    Football (soccer): Rule one of defending, stay on your feet. When a defender goes down, they lose all control.
    Cricket: Why bother?

  142. None

    With her gruesome end, Susanna Feldman has become a stand-in for all the victims of the wave of migrant crime that has struck Germany since 2015. There is now general consensus that violent crime in Germany rose by at least 10 percent after Merkel opened the country’s doors in mid-2015, with over 90 percent of that criminality caused by young male migrants like Ali Bashar. For New Year’s 2016, migrants went on an infamous rampage in several German cities, sexually assaulting 1,200 women (half of them in Cologne), a crime that involved some 2,000 men, a fact that German police tried and failed to cover up.

    Feldman’s murder is the latest outrage in a rash of violent crimes against German women, many of them very young. However, her killing put a face on an issue that German elites would rather not discuss. Susanna’s death is the fourth of a German teenage girl at the hands of a migrant over the last 18 months, a fact noted by Alice Weidel, the leader of the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, which surged in last fall’s federal elections, winning almost 13 percent of the vote and 94 seats in the German parliament. Weidel minced no words in her polemic against the Merkel government: “Susanna is dead. Maria from Freiburg; Mia from Kandel; Mireille from Flensburg; and now Susanna from Mainz.”

    Angela Merkel and her sycophants have blood on their hands.
    http://observer.com/2018/06/migrant-crime-in-germany-climaxes-with-susanna-feldman-murder/

  143. None

    Weidel, who called for Merkel’s resignation over her failures of leadership on the migration issue, went on: “Susanna’s death is not a blind stroke of fate. Susanna’s death is the result of many years of organized irresponsibility and the scandalous failure of our asylum and immigration policies. Susanna is the victim of an out-of-control left-wing multicultural ideology that stops at nothing to impose its sense of moral superiority.”

    John Schindler is a good follow on twitter btw. A sane security analyst with former skin in the game.

  144. So now the thing to worry about is Climax Change.

    What is the Lieborals and the ALP policy on Climax Change?

  145. struth

    Thanks mostly to missions, aborigines did integrate very early on.

    What? In 1790 when they were integrated into early Sydney?

    Is this all you’ve got?

    You have gone away, and now come back to remind us that you use Catallaxy files as debate practice?
    Did I quote 1790, you pillock?
    The problem you have here is the jury you are practicing in front of can see straight through you.
    This isn’t mummamia.
    Diversion and misquoting stands out like dog balls in front of cats.

    All up.

    Fail.

  146. H B Bear

    Fisher would fit right in at a Friends of the ALPBC morning tea. Bang in the middle of the that GetUp ex-taxpayer funded geriatric demographic.

  147. DrBeauGan

    Getting zero for her answer is just about the best possible result for miss Bartok. It tells her several important things: that her teacher is peddling propaganda and doesn’t approve of those who think differently. That at least some teachers are not to be trusted to do their jobs honestly. That many of her class will happily jump into the river if enough others do. That standing up for truth and what’s right has its own reward, and that self respect matters a lot more than the approval of dishonest dimwits. That if you want an education you need to take control of it yourself because you can’t trust the system to do an honest job.

    All good. One day she will be grateful to that teacher for setting her free.

  148. zyconoclast

    Anyone have any experience with personal safety alarms/auto-dialler/monitoring services for old people?

  149. cohenite

    Great video of some young pro-gun women who have some interesting things to say about that scrawny armed little commie david hogg and the lefties who pepper them with hate mail:

    https://www.facebook.com/80256732576/videos/10156607439557577/

  150. Boambee John

    the victim of an out-of-control left-wing multicultural ideology that stops at nothing to impose its sense of moral superiority.”

    But enough about Australia, what was the story from Germany about?

    PS, Interesting from that story that the supposedly “fascist” German policeman who shot and killed a protestor decades ago, causing riots, actually turned out to be a Stasi mole. How many other left wing causes have been based on such black flag operations in the west?

  151. Confused Old Misfit

    Anyone have any experience with personal safety alarms/auto-dialler/monitoring services for old people?

    Not me. I’m too old.
    Seriously, my idiot sisters got one for my mother (99 years old). She usually did not remember it put is on. Once, she forgot to take it off before going to bed and activated it in her sleep. Of course the monitoring service telephoned and it took too long for her to get out of bed and answer the phone so they sent for an ambulance.

  152. cohenite

    How much more stupid, then, the removal of Aboriginal Children simply because they’re Aboriginal?

    When did that happen, as opposed to removing kids from drunken, drugged, violent, sexually predatory or absent parents.

  153. Chris

    Getting zero for her answer is just about the best possible result for miss Bartok.

    Maybe not. As one person above said, arguing the case got him a B.
    It is actually to be presumed (under the principle of intellectual charity) that the teacher WANTED to give her marks, and a well structured essay explaining the true situation without spelling or grammar mistakes would have been fairly marked on that basis, in an ENGLISH exam. THat’s what most of them do even if they are quite prejudiced.

    The answer stopped short by rejecting the question on political grounds, which did not let the teacher do her job. The student might fairly be said to have given a smartass answer which did not take responsibility for the work she was meant to do.

  154. Death Giraffe

    Forget the ABC.
    Privatise education.
    The time when state schools had some positive role in training and keeping poor waifs off the streets until they were old enough to go down the mines is long over.
    State education has NOTHING of value to offer that could not be done better, cheaper and with less damage to children by a myriad of possible private options.
    Get rid of it.

  155. Mueller clearly has nothing, so now the ‘investigation’ is being stretched out to as close to the mid terms as possible so it can dump a steaming pile of fud, irrelevancies and red herrings in the days just before.

    Even if that were true, which it is not, it would be payback for Comey doing exactly the same thing to Hillary.

  156. mizaris

    mizaris, kudos to you – you are a gentle and kind man, how can we get that message out to the screaming harpies? Oh I see none are interested because all men a bastards so someone like you mizaris who did this kind act must have been transitioning.

    Thank you Tinta, but I’m 1000% female, well over 60, have a vocabulary direct from Freo’s wharf and hate seeing anyone being preyed upon. Hence…

  157. Confused Old Misfit

    zyconoclast
    #2739372, posted on June 17, 2018 at 11:37 am

    Further to the above, after digging back through the mists of time, I recollect that this service aso contacted a “responsible person” (in this case the closest of the idiot sisters). As mother lived in a rural village, the response time was just over 30 minutes from the time the alarm was sent until the ambulance arrived.

  158. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rabbit Proof Fence is fiction. There is a whole bunch of literature around this black armband history theme that has been used either intentionally or non intentionally to create false memories. It is insidious. We are raising a generation of bimbos and liars.

    It’s when old myths are presented as fact, that I get rather angry. There was a Government funded poster in my local community centre, commemorating the 50th anniversary of the 1967 referendum, and repeating the old furphy’s that Aboriginal people didn’t have the vote, and weren’t counted in the census until 1967. The SJW behind the counter seemed rather stunned that some of us remembered the 1967 referendum, and the actual matters put to the electorate.

  159. DrBeauGan

    cohenite
    #2739375, posted on June 17, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Great video of some young pro-gun women who have some interesting things to say about that scrawny armed little commie david hogg and the lefties who pepper them with hate mail:

    https://www.facebook.com/80256732576/videos/10156607439557577/

    That was great, Cohenite. Two gorgeous, wholly feminine, tough chicks leaving dimwitted lefties crying in their wake.

  160. Death Giraffe

    I dream of the day the state schools I worked in these last twenty years are closed.
    And the communists and authoritarian scum I shared staff rooms with no longer have access to young minds.
    I miss my time working on dairy farms and fishing trawlers, in the field with Aussie diggers and in dark satanic mills.
    On the other hand, I have nothing but relief at the thought of never again entering a state school.

  161. DrBeauGan

    Maybe not. As one person above said, arguing the case got him a B.
    It is actually to be presumed (under the principle of intellectual charity) that the teacher WANTED to give her marks, and a well structured essay explaining the true situation without spelling or grammar mistakes would have been fairly marked on that basis, in an ENGLISH exam. THat’s what most of them do even if they are quite prejudiced.

    Yours is a charitable nature, Chris. I saw a question with an embedded assumption that was false, and an answer which, terse and to the point, said so. I agree that providing references to support the assertion that it was false would have been better.

  162. Des Deskperson

    ‘So who thrives at the ABC? People who tick all the APS boxes. People with the correct tribal identity (Greens voters). People who are not very good at their jobs.’

    Th recruitment and selection processes for anyone at the ABC earning more than around &120,000 pa – which would certainly include Ms Crabbe – seem unusually opaque for a taxpayer-funded organistion.

  163. struth

    Did you give it away, Arky?

  164. struth

    Sorry, I mean did you give it away, death giraffe?

  165. Geriatric Mayfly

    seem unusually opaque for a taxpayer-funded organistion.

    The current obsession with Privacy would cover many of the bases shrouded in secrecy at the ABC.

  166. Confused Old Misfit

    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    The question does not suggest or encourage debate. The question requires parroting an answer and tests only the students recall ability.

  167. Snoopy

    Even if that were true, which it is not, it would be payback for Comey doing exactly the same thing to Hillary.

    Epic trolling, Monty. Trump has to suffer because Comey’s FBI tried to cover up Hillary’s emails on Weiner’s laptop?

    Emails which the FBI apparently still hasn’t reviewed.

  168. Death Giraffe

    Told them to stick it in their arses two weeks ago.

  169. calli

    White Knights can be women too, mizaris.

    I’m all for da equalidy. 🙃

  170. Delta A

    Anyone have any experience with personal safety alarms/auto-dialler/monitoring services for old people?

    My mother had one for the last eight years of her life. She never had to use it, but it was reassuring for her and for us that help was at hand if she needed it.

    An elderly neighbour who should have had a device did not. He almost died when he fell over outside on a scorcher of a day. Although conscious, he was unable to move and no-one heard his cries for help. Fortunately, a visitor found him and called the ambulance.

  171. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks John Constantine for that interesting link to a meeting of anthropologists in Wales all determined to revive Bachoffen’s and Morgan’s nineteenth century theories of matriliny as matriarchy. I think, as did and still do most anthropologists uninfected by modern ‘you go girl’ feminism, that there was never any society that had a matriarchal social organization where there was a domination of religion by ‘mother goddess’ figures or a key mother goddess and power of women over men. The currently revived debate centres on matrilocal residence which is sometimes associated with matrilineal tracing of descent, ie. the woman resides with female kin (and, conveniently ignored, the male partners of such females) in the lands of the matrilineal clan. In such situations male power is still dominant because the males actually own the children of their sisters; Radcliffe-Brown’s famous work on ‘the mother’s brother’ made this very clear, citing African tribal examples. All that matriliny does is shift the focus of fatherhood from the children of the spouse to the children of the man’s sister. Men still behaved as men, whatever their clan rights and locality of residence. Fatherhood in early times obviously had to be some sort of social construct because the biology of fatherhood compared to motherhood was less certain. Perhaps domestication of animals made it more certain. But male power, something inherent in our human evolution, was always present.

    The argument goes that matrifocal residence gave women more power, which is really very arguable. Women in both matrilocal and patrilocal residence systems lived in similar situations, with kin, under rules of male power. A woman transferred to the kin of her husband in a patrilocal system whereas she was under the thumb of her mother’s brother (her putative father) and her own brother (the putative father of her children) in a matrilocal one as well as having her male sexual partner, a man of another clan, living with her and claiming rights over his own clan lands elsewhere, those inherited through his mother. Biological fathers were simply partners, not legal inheritors of clan lands as they had their own clan lands and their sister’s sons to supervise. Obviously once paternity became more clearly recognized, real fatherhood gained in significance. A sideline system of residence that soon developed in matrilineal systems under conditions of agricultural settlement. This is called patri-virilocal residence, which involved shifting male residence to matrilineal clan lands only on puberty when men took up ownership of such inherited lands.

    The facts are that in early societies it was common for both systems of tracing descent to be used for various purposes, and for clan land to be allocated according to recognized traditions. Men were always the holders of major clan rights. That is the point, and they also ‘owned’ women, either their wives or their sisters. The Arthurian legends are chock full of matrilineal remnant traditions – ‘nephew’ relationships are found everywhere, and mostly the nephews are a man’s sisters sons.

    The British, and probably Indo-European, traditions of ‘fostering’ children into other families in my view also reflect an earlier predominance of matrilineal kin tracing, as does the presence throughout Europe of river White Ladies (Robert Grave’s White Goddess), exampled by spirits such as Gwynhyffer (Guinevere, Arthur’s wife), which means White Phantom, boundary setters in all likelihood for rivers created land boundaries. The presence of ‘Sovereignty Goddesses’ of the land, such as the Latinized Brigantia (Ireland’s Brigid), are also in my view a part of this heritage, and there is also, I think, an outside chance that Boudicca (Boadicea) was one of these (for the name translates as Victory), although it was probably also attached to a real wife of a male leader of the Iceni tribe. Queens in Sweden’s Uppsala and Britain’s Sutton Hoo were given regal burials as carriers of sovereignty but it is doubtful if they ever left male control of their activities.

    To use matriliny and matrifocality as producing a condition of matriarchy-of-sisters is to stretch the fabric of these remnants far to tightly. Early on in human history, as I see it, in ethological terms, male dominance over females became a condition of human social organization, probably via exogamous exchange between small groups by men of their sisters as sexual partners (a theory of Claude Levi Strauss); however a form of male importance via social fatherhood was recognised (matriliny merely keeps the relationship definitely biological from the same uterus) and whatever useful systems notions of kinship and descent could throw up simply facilitated male power in the group.

    My theories of King Arthur’s mythological origins depend strongly upon the idea of ‘fatherhood’ in religion being equally as important in early human societies as the idea of motherhood. Men sought their own source of power, in the gods of the night skies and mountaintops that reached into them, and gave women dominion over the provisioning earth – a process in train during the hunter-gatherer period of the ice age retreats as men decorated caves with powerful male symbols of the bulls and bears the slaughtered and fought, and performed rituals there to their own very obvious importance in the continuance of the group. Earth Mother Primal Goddesses as claimed by the theories of Maria Gambutas to be running the show, would have received a very second place against this sort of male power (just take a look at the massive bull cult parade of power in the Lascaux cathedral cave, never ever done by any woman). I also have a suspicion that the famous female figurines of the Upper Paleolithic were part of a male cult of control rather than a female cult of worship and female power as they are often interpreted to be.

    For men were looking to capture the mysteries of the female vulva, the source of children, to comprehend the mysteries, the gnosis, in which men felt they clearly had a part (the Sheila Na Gogs in British and Irish Churches – stick figures of females reduced to nothing more than a quim, show that). You heard that here first too.

  172. struth

    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    That question is completely insulting to anyone with average intelligence.

    You may as well ask
    Explain ze immoral attitudes of ze Je ws zat enabled zem to rule ze vorld?

  173. struth

    Told them to stick it in their arses two weeks ago.

    Did you give reasons?
    My guess is they would have been glad to see the end of you.
    (for all the wrong reasons)

  174. stackja

    Dashcam footage used to locate man accused of kidnapping girl, 11
    Chris Harris, The Daily Telegraph
    June 17, 2018 9:56am
    Subscriber only
    DASHCAM and CCTV footage was stitched together to locate a “nomad” who allegedly kidnapped and sexually assaulted an 11-year-old girl in Newcastle last Tuesday.

    A 47-year-old man was arrested and charged last night.

    He was said to have no fixed address and was “couchsurfing”. He was also unemployed.

    The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested in Hamilton during a vehicle stop and didn’t resist when police stopped his car at lunchtime yesterday.

    ???

  175. calli

    I got a dose of TDS from the church lecturn this morning. You guessed it – a schoolmaster filling in for the minister.

    The Beloved squeezed my leg in a vice-like grip, so I cravenly remained silent.

    Miss Bartok – 1, calli – 0

  176. zyconoclast

    “Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations”.

    That question is completely insulting to anyone with average intelligence.

    With an average IQ of 72…

  177. None

    Told them to stick it in their arses two weeks ago.

    I hope you only gave up on the state system. I can only imagine your joy at being released from such a prision. I suspect however, yours is a vocation…and that your talents are sorely needed elsewhere.

  178. Chris

    Death Giraffe
    #2739400, posted on June 17, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Told them to stick it in their arses two weeks ago.

    Once again, congratulations!

  179. Chris

    Miss Bartok – 1, calli – 0

    As in
    Ah shoulda got up and said
    Ah wanna kiss the bride!

    So actually, calli – 1 for being socially ept.

  180. Dr Faustus

    “It’s official, the Liberals do not support public broadcasting and want to sell off the ABC,” Labor communication spokeswoman Michelle Rowland said.

    Ms Rowland claimed privatising the ABC could mean advertisements during programming and putting high-quality Australian content behind a paywall.

    Surely more than that?
    Privatising the ABC could mean outlawing beer, banning public holidays, and clubbing big-eyed Labrador puppies to death for their skins.

  181. None

    Explain the immoral attitudes that led to the tragedy of the Stolen Generations

    The question is stupid for the reason given by Miss Bartok.

    Plus – and here I call on moral philosophers to tell me – since when was an attitude immoral? Sure, attitudes guide behaviour but I would have thought only behaviour could be moral or immoral. In any case how can you assess attitude? That’s frigging thought police stuff.

  182. Death Giraffe

    Once again, congratulations!

    ..
    As I drove away for the last time my emotions surprised me.
    I was elated.
    I drove home pumping my fist in the air, banging the steering wheel and hooping and hollering.
    Right decision, I guess.

  183. None

    Ms Rowland claimed privatising the ABC could mean advertisements during programming and putting high-quality Australian content behind a paywall.

    Advertisements during programming. Oh my god what unbearable suffering. Pass me the euthanasia bill. Putting high-quality Australian content…wait, stop there. Anyone seen any high-quality Australian content anywhere?

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE TIMES
    Angela Merkel on brink in stand-off over asylum-seekers

    Andrew Byrne
    The Times
    12:34PM June 17, 2018

    Germany is braced for a political earthquake tomorrow as a deep rift within its conservative alliance threatens to topple the government and bring an abrupt end to Angela Merkel’s 13 years as chancellor.

    Both Merkel and her rebellious interior minister, Horst Seehofer, showed no sign of compromise yesterday in their stand-off over migration.

    Seehofer has brought his Bavarian Christian Social Union (CSU) to the cusp of open revolt against Merkel’s “open doors” refugee policy, threatening to defy the chancellor by imposing border controls tomorrow.

    He wants German border guards to send asylum seekers back into neighbouring countries. Merkel fears that would trigger other EU border closures.

    German commentators predict she would have little choice but to sack Seehofer if he issued the order, leading to the probable collapse of her coalition government only 100 days after it was formed.

    The powerful centre-right alliance of Merkel’s CDU and the CSU – known as the Union – has survived since the 1940s but was severely strained by her decision in 2015 to keep the borders open at the height of the European migrant crisis.

    From the Oz. Good riddance to the old fright bat.

  185. Death Giraffe

    high-quality Australian content

    ..
    ..
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
    Snort.

  186. struth

    so I cravenly remained silent.

    I’m well past that stage now.

    I’m looking for the fight.
    I’m doing what the left have done for years, and openly laugh and talk about lefties as if the people I’m talking to all agree, and boy does that get people nervous.
    I’m losing unnecessary friends by the truckload.
    Good riddance.
    I got a big bloke say steady on to me the other day, as it was a bit much for his brain to process but they asked why I wouldn’t do something and I said I don’t agree with all the left wing bullshit.
    I’ve put up with all this Marxism too long, I said.
    See, I’m not real political said another, I don’t know who Marx is, he nervously joked.
    He’s a left wing prick who’s policies killed millions behind the commos Iron curtain and your kids are being taught his shit in school mate.
    Look, you guys go ahead and do it, it’s just against my principles to do it.
    They got it.
    People love hearing what they are thinking.
    It’s liberating.
    Trump became president doing it.

  187. Death Giraffe

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
    HA HA HA.

  188. Death Giraffe

    high-quality Australian content

  189. struth

    Good onya Arky.
    Best of Luck.
    You’ve been liberated.
    Now make sure they don’t win the war.
    Back to the front line……………………………….

  190. Death Giraffe

    high-quality Australian content

    ..
    Comedy isn’t dead.
    It’s just accidental.

  191. Death Giraffe

    high-quality Australian content

    ..
    There is this thing called the internet.
    We now all know your “high-quality Australian content” was just a bunch of third- rate knock offs of overseas programming.

  192. Boambee John

    Giraffe at 1147

    State education has NOTHING of value to offer that could not be done better, cheaper and with less damage to children by a myriad of possible private options.

    Well, get on with developing your private option. We are all fully supportive.

  193. DrBeauGan

    I feel sorry for your students, Death. They were getting the beginning of an education with you. Now it will be all about learning the right things to say and write to get approval.

    Still, your sanity comes first..

  194. Death Giraffe

    Well, get on with developing your private option. We are all fully supportive.

    ..
    No.
    I have other things I want to do.
    These things will be online, and you will be the first to know.

  195. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1150

    Even if that were true, which it is not, it would be payback for Comey doing exactly the same thing to Hillary.

    The reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment gives us his real opinion of democracy.

  196. Death Giraffe

    I am working very hard on some things…

  197. None

    Still, your sanity comes first.

    I think it is more than sanity. Judging by Arky’s reaction – very similar to mine many years ago when I quit working for the man – it is like freeing your soul, returning to freedom. No more compromising of values, of self. Almost like a resurrection experience.

  198. None

    I am working very hard on some things…

    You’ve got a bunch of supporters here, barracking for you.

  199. John Constantine

    Is their abc actually threatening that their stream of revolutionary theology advertorials, endlessly promoting the overthrow of capitalism and the Downfall of the West might actually be interrupted by advertising that Tories could pay for?.

    That their abc might have to run advertising for a Milo speaking tour?.

    Unacceptable.

    There can be no break in indoctrination, or the proles may learn other opinions exist.

    Comrades.

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No.
    I have other things I want to do.
    These things will be online, and you will be the first to know.

    Follow your dream, Arky.
    I’ve been following my ideas and playing around with writing other things on the way.
    I’m getting more confidence now and I hope you power on too with your ambitions.

    If only I didn’t have to travel so much with Hairy I’d have more time.
    I’m not really complaining though.
    Ya takes wot ya gets in life. 😀

  201. Boambee John

    Death Giraffe
    #2739448, posted on June 17, 2018 at 12:50 pm
    Well, get on with developing your private option. We are all fully supportive.

    ..
    No.
    I have other things I want to do.
    These things will be online, and you will be the first to know.

    Looking forward to them.

  202. Top Ender

    Anyone have any experience with personal safety alarms/auto-dialler/monitoring services for old people?

    1) Mother-in-law had one and rarely wore it.

    Then she fell over at home by herself and was on the floor for four hours until a visitor happened to come by.

    2) Last week an old lady I had met a few times in Tassie fell over at home and banged her head. Was on the floor for three days until a visitor broke in, and called the ambos.

    Old lady died about 10 hours later despite what the hospital could do. She had always refused to wear a medi-alert.

  203. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Comedy isn’t dead.
    It’s just accidental.

    Some great guffawing coffee-spilling keyboard moments happening daily on the Cat.
    Freely developed content produces some winning comedy. An accidental spin off.
    And Sinc doesn’t charge for it. 🙂

  204. calli

    Good luck, Arky. I followed my dream twentyfive years ago. It was hard and challenging – the buck stops with you and there’s nowhere to hide when things go pear-shaped.

    But the rewards and the freedom are tremendous. You may earn more working for someone else, but there’s nothing like being your own boss. Be prepared for triumphs and setbacks and never, ever become complacent and take your eye off the ball. When things go wrong, it starts small and escalates at lightspeed.

    And make friends with your bank manager. 🙂

  205. John Constantine

    How about we pitch a documentary concept to their abc.

    The height of pure Australian comedy would be uncle phillip adams, tim flannery and four hundred kilos of frightbats going on an Australian taxfunded media tour of Venezuela, Zimbabwe and North Korea, collecting insights on how communism and decolonialisation is done properly.

    I would volunteer to drive the bastards around.

    [Remotely, by robot drone, from the front bar of a rural pub during happy hour so we could do the comedy voiceovers.]

    [And let the cute drunk chicks have a steer of the abc tourbus.]

    Comrades.

  206. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My mother finally wore her medi-alert after we had some words with her about it.

    There is also a service you can get where a call is put in daily to your aged one and if they don’t answer you are alerted. We got that. Plus of course you can ring yourself; Big Sis and I and mum’s friends had a roster.

  207. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The height of pure Australian comedy would be uncle phillip adams, tim flannery and four hundred kilos of frightbats going on an Australian taxfunded media tour of Venezuela, Zimbabwe and North Korea, collecting insights on how communism and decolonialisation is done properly.

    You realise that is only four frightbats. Not nearly enough.

  208. Infidel Tiger

    Get your snow gear ready, because Victoria’s alpine resorts are more than knee-deep in snow – with some experiencing their best snow depth in almost two decades.

    Mount Hotham has recorded the deepest snow depth in 18 years.

    “We’re at a season total of 75cm, in the last seven days we’ve had 65cm, which is similar to the three large storms last year,” Mount Hotham’s Alyson Lamb said.

    It will never snow again.

  209. mizaris

    I’m looking for the fight.
    I’m doing what the left have done for years, and openly laugh and talk about lefties as if the people I’m talking to all agree, and boy does that get people nervous.
    I’m losing unnecessary friends by the truckload.

    struth – ME TOO!! I’m thoroughly enjoying doing the same thing – in supermarket queues; at any social occasion; wherever groups of people are standing around. Nothing I like better than the gasp and the clutch at the pearls. And the lack of any reasoned response. Ad hom is my middle name now.

    Retired now and loving it in a huge way after staying too long in a fairly toxic workplace so I getcha Death Giraffe. Very loud AC/DC in my car as I drove home that day – way toooo much adrenalin pumping, windows down, silver tresses flying, won’t forget that day in a hurry.

  210. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Beloved squeezed my leg in a vice-like grip, so I cravenly remained silent.

    We had this on a twenty-person one-hour boat tour dolphin watching in the Tahitian islands. The tour guide was a dreadful oceans-rising warming oceans greenie. We had to suffer him witter on, because it was his show after all.

    As we left though we expressed our displeasure and concern at his lack of knowledge about oceanic matters climatic and suggested he update because we knew of others who were also on that tour and who felt as we did. We praised him for his good knowledge of the local whales and dolphins habits though. Maybe we did more good by a quiet encouraging word to him than by embarrassing him during his spiel.

  211. Rae

    The Bela Bartok opus.
    The Deadmans son episode.
    Curiously similar.

    In a Year 10 English exam why would there be an essay question on Aboriginal Studies rather than English?
    The OJ Simpson defense springs to mind.

  212. nemkat

    Crisp in Brissie, first westerlies of the year still blowing.

  213. struth

    Ah sniff, I can smell the Trumpiness of the right mobilising.
    I can sense the worry on the globalist left.

    I can feel the pace quicken.
    People are now answering back.
    They are starting to speak up.
    Yes in Australia, someone has dared to suggest that the state sponsored propaganda arm be removed from the teat of the taxpayer.
    Ye gods, where will it end?
    Will someone now question power prices?
    Will some more be able to stand up and call bullshit to climate commos?
    Denying black arm band falsehoods in schools and not willing to play the game?

    Can we dare to dream of having power prices as cheap as those countries we sell the fuel to power their stations with?
    At least not the most expensive on the planet?
    As are our politicians.
    Could we possibly be able to expect on the least populated continent on earth which isn’t covered with ice (still) a house price similar to that of the overpopulated small little Island called England?

    It won’t take much more Trumpiness to throw the whole thing open.
    That’s why the left hate him so.
    Yet Libertarians can’t compute this as anything but leftism when measured against their theories of utopia.

  214. miz(ad hom)aris

    Anyone have any experience with personal safety alarms/auto-dialler/monitoring services for old people?

    Mother in law has one and it has proven invaluable. She wears it happily as she is fully aware that if she goes down, she won’t be able to get up again no matter what. It sits on the bathmat when she’s showering and that’s the only time it’s off her person, other than overnight, when hale and hearty father in law is with her. As she spends quite a bit of time alone on most days, we are more than happy with the service that is offered with it.

  215. John Constantine

    The underground temperature of the root zone the plants grow from in most of the vicco cropping belt has dropped from nicely well over ten degrees only a week or so ago, to chilly well under ten degrees this week.

    Too cold now for decent grass growth for the rest of winter.

    Except weeds, the crappier they are, the more they thrive.

  216. C.L.

    “Good, bad or interesting, the ABC is part of the core, official fabric of the nation and should never be sold,” Mr Fischer told AAP on Sunday.

    Hardly surprising from a standard National Party communist hillbilly.

  217. nemkat

    calli
    #2739413
    I got a dose of TDS from the church lecturn this morning. You guessed it – a schoolmaster filling in for the minister.

    Is that usual at the Church you attend, Calli?
    Just asking, because the Parish records of the now defunct Church I used to attend indicate the Deacon filled in for the Minister just once in 30+ years.

  218. C.L.

    Government frontbencher Josh Frydenberg backed Saturday’s assurance from Treasurer Scott Morrison that the government had no plans for privatisation.

    “The Liberal party membership are entitled to their views and are as frustrated as we are from time to time about the coverage on the ABC,” Mr Frydenberg told Sky News on Sunday.

    “But the reality is this is an iconic national institution which will remain in the public’s hands.”

    In other words: ‘The people we exist to serve are “entitled to their views” but can go and get f-cked.’

  219. struth

    To me, this ABC thing is very interesting to watch.
    The left are for the first time in a long while in defence.
    They are under attack.
    Credit where credit is due Proffesory.
    Good work, Sinclair Davidson and co.

  220. Farmer Gez

    Any animal welfare luvvies out with rugs for the cold, wet marsupials?

  221. struth

    “But the reality is this is an iconic national institution which will remain in the public’s hands.”

    In other words, My opinion is the only one that counts.
    He should be marched out of representative government and horse whipped.

  222. egg_

    “Good, bad or interesting, the ABC is part of the core, official* fabric of the nation and should never be sold,” Mr Fischer told AAP on Sunday.

    *That’s yer problem, right there.
    It’s now a Corporation, not a Commission, old boy.

  223. calli

    Maybe we did more good by a quiet encouraging word to him than by embarrassing him during his spiel.

    Quite so. There’s a time and a place and a way to do these things. I barely know the gentleman involved, but would like to discuss his views with him. Perhaps the opportunity will present itself.

    It troubles me that TDS finds its way into the most unlikely scenarios, so deep-seated is it in some people’s psyches.

  224. egg_

    “It’s official, the Liberals do not support public broadcasting and want to sell off the ABC,” Labor communication spokeswoman Michelle Rowland said.

    Ms Rowland claimed privatising the ABC could mean advertisements during programming

    A disingenuous argument.
    SBS has carried advertising for years and IIRC makes good income on its English subtitling of Movies for PayTV, etc. – merge the two behemoths for the public benefit.
    TheirABC spends massive amounts of time on cross-promotion of programs, even within programs, today – no less disruptive than advertising when done on a highly repetitive basis.

  225. Confused Old Misfit

    Farmer Gez
    #2739490, posted on June 17, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    I went out the other morning with some coverings for the poor little new lambs but when I caught one I discovered that it was covered all over with wool! Imagine my surprise!

  226. egg_

    … if they do ever sell the ABC Ms Crab is going to struggle to get another job.

    Growing up on a farm, Ms Crabb knows a feeding trough when she sees it.

    IMHO she over eggs the Leftoid watercooler groupthink as she experiences differences to her rural upbringing.

  227. chrisl

    Farmer Gez Are you getting any rain? I was up that way a couple of weeks ago and it was dry as a chip Silo trail

  228. H B Bear

    The only way you prise them out of the ALPBC staff co-op is Quentin Dumpster style – wait till they are in their 70s, a six figure redundancy and 30+ years of defined benefits superannuation.

  229. egg_

    Is their abc actually threatening that their stream of revolutionary theology advertorials, endlessly promoting the overthrow of capitalism and the Downfall of the West might actually be interrupted by advertising that Tories could pay for?.

    That their abc might have to run advertising for a Milo speaking tour?.

    SBS has no problems with advertising expensive European marques.
    Ads for motorsport, red meat and grog?
    SBS devotes 2 hours/week to largely Australian Motorsport on Speedweek – wogs get more Diversidee of content than Aunty’s soyboys.

  230. nemkat

    Farmer Gez Are you getting any rain? I was up that way a couple of weeks ago and it was dry as a chip Silo trail
    Climate change, old mate.
    CAGW is a joke, climate change osn’t.

  231. egg_

    Is their abc actually threatening that their stream of revolutionary theology advertorials, endlessly promoting the overthrow of capitalism and the Downfall of the West might actually be interrupted by advertising that Tories could pay for?.

    That their abc might have to run advertising for a Milo speaking tour?.

    SBS has no problems with advertising expensive European marques.
    Ads for motorsport, red meat and grog?
    SBS devotes 2 hours/week to largely Australian Motorsport on Speedweek – w0gs get more Diversidee of content than Aunty’s soyboys.

  232. John Constantine

    Their abc.

    Their turnbull election winning machine rush with all haste to assure our enemies that the turnbullites are unswervingly committed to borrowing as much money as it takes and giving it to the forces of godless commo hippydom so enough lies about us can be told to our friends to make them hate us.

    Anybody ever seen a scumbag turnbullite scurry as fast as they just moved to suck abc arse?.

    Comrades?.

  233. None

    In other words: ‘The people we exist to serve are “entitled to their views” but can go and get f-cked.’

    I could never understand why some people [=idiot media types] touted Frydenberg as leadership material. He’s just a lap dog. Nothing more. A spineless, flaccid, lapdog who only does whatever it takes to keep his position. That’s all he cares about. The people, as you say, can just go and get f-cked.

  234. John Constantine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKGjRoSofA

    Wonder no longer what Death Giraffe is working on in his shed. When full auto is hardly auto enough.

    Comrade Kalishnagiraffekov.

    [ of course if any cat was to walk out of his workshop with a homemande one of these, it would be full on Tommy Robinson time, for thoughtcrimes against the State.]

  235. egg_

    The left are for the first time in a long while in defence.
    They are under attack.

    Snowcone flies to London to interrogate Martin Durkin for The Great Global Warming Swindle Debate*.
    Mrs Snowcone flies overseas to interview those with allgeded knowledge of ‘Russiagate‘.
    See a pattern?

    *Aunty’s conclusion: ‘The Science is settled’?
    Aunty seems to have no knowledge of Climategate.

  236. classical_hero

    This is monty regarding the Russia investigation You’ve gotta keep the faith.

  237. egg_

    phillip adams, tim flannery and four hundred kilos of frightbats going on…

    A tour of the Antarctic, with all that blubber.

  238. egg_

    “Founded in 1929 as the Australian Broadcasting Company, the ABC was a Government licensed consortium of private entertainment and content providers, authorised under supervision to broadcast on the airwaves using a two-tiered system.”

    Oh noes!!11!

  239. Cactus

    Y’all got any of that Global Warmening? Dont want to have to wait till 2100 for it to be 1-2 deg warmer.

  240. egg_

    Their abc.

    Trumble’s ruinables propaganda arm.

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