First they came for Tommy Robinson

Great enterprises start small. First they put away just one fellow who is causing trouble and when that works they put away a second. You know the one about first they came for the Jews. In this case, first they came for Tommy Robinson. And then, for all practical purposes, he was never heard from again. And while he may be out of sight, he’s not quite yet out of mind: Tommy Robinson’s lawyer lodges appeal, applies for bail. This will also help you understand why you have heard so little from him directly:

They have lodged an appeal against the sentence. That means: they are challenging the judge’s 13 month prison term. Which of course is excessive and disproportionate. And in my view, it’s more punitive than a 13-month term for any other prisoner, because Tommy is so uniquely endangered in the UK’s prisons, many of which are dominated by Muslim criminal gangs, who have in the past attacked Tommy. Last time he was in prison, Tommy had to ask to be put into solitary confinement just to save his life. Obviously no-one can survive for 13 months that way.

So the first appeal is against the sentence.

The second part of Mr. Carson’s note indicates that he is asking for bail for Tommy, until the appeal is heard.

One of the craziest parts of this whole thing was that Tommy went from being scooped up on the street by seven cops, to prison, in a matter of a few hours. That’s absurd — he didn’t even have time to properly instruct a lawyer of his own choosing. Getting Tommy out on bail will not only allow him to visit his family and friends, but it will allow him to have proper meetings with his lawyers.

And the third point is self-explanatory — they’re looking to have this hearing as soon as possible in the court’s schedule.

And then there’s Paul Manafort in the US. Paul Manafort jailed by US judge over witness tampering charges, pending trial. Long story short:

A US federal judge has sent Paul Manafort to jail pending trial after he was charged with witness tampering in the latest episode in a slow fall from grace for a man who was President Donald Trump’s campaign chairman in 2016. . . .

Legal experts have said Mr Mueller wants to keep applying pressure on Mr Manafort to plead guilty and assist prosecutors with the probe. . . .

“Paul’s counsel are filing an expedited appeal,’ Dowd told Fox News. “This is harsh pretrial punishment and an outrageous violation of Paul’s civil liberties at the hands of an Obama appointee.” . . .

None of the charges against him make reference to alleged Russian interference in the election nor the accusations of collusion between Moscow and Trump’s campaign.

Not only can it happen here, it is happening already.

As for the vid, found it on the net but don’t know anything about the chap who is speaking.

MEANWHILE: The Mail Online: Preachers of hate back on Britain’s streets: MI5 terror alert as five jihadi leaders linked to London Bridge attack are set to be let out of jail by the end of the year.

Police and security chiefs fear the high command of an extremist group that inspired a generation of jihadis will soon be free again to preach hate on Britain’s streets.

Five senior figures in Al-Muhajiroun, whose former members include London Bridge attacker Khuram Butt and Michael Adebolajo, one of Fusilier Lee Rigby’s killers, are expected to be released from prison by the end of the year.

Among them is Anjem Choudary, who is due for release in October having served less than half of a five-and-half-year sentence for inviting support for IS.

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39 Responses to First they came for Tommy Robinson

  1. Jo Smyth

    This is one of the very things Trump was elected on. So far he has remained relatively silent on the daily effort by the left to shut down freedom of speech and the language is becoming more dangerous. The rhetoric is escalating and as it goes unchecked the left become more emboldened. If he doesn’t speak out soon and take some action, his supporters will start to get very annoyed.

  2. Dr Fred Lenin

    Trump is a very smart man he has spent years dealing with some of the toughest people on earth ,New York bankers, realtors and construction companies are no pussy cats ,unlike career pollies and communist stenographers who have lived in a sheltered workshop all their lives . Trump cuts the rope ,ties the nooses and gives them to the idiots and they proceed to use them to hang themselves ,you can bet he has these bastards lined up for destruction ,he wouldn’t be human if he didn’t intensely dislike the maggots infesting the deep state , if I were one of them I would emigrate to Venezuela before it hit the fan with me in front of it .

  3. Bruce of Newcastle

    Class-enemies are being targeted by the Left with increasing impunity. This was in the Daily Express overnight:

    Christians are MOST persecuted religion in the world – reveals new report

    The researchers said: “When combining measures of government restrictions and social hostilities, more than four-in-ten countries (42 percent) had high or very high levels of overall religious restrictions in 2016.”

    Pew lists China as the worst country for government obstructions – the rigidly atheist Communist regime banned online purchases of Bibles just before Easter earlier this year following efforts to remove Christian symbols from homes.

    Overall, the Asia-Pacific region places more limits on Christianity than any other part of the world and according to the report, it contains about a third of countries where Christians were harassed by governments.

    Researchers found that in 2016, nationalist parties and politicians in India, Nepal, Sri Lanka and the Philippines targeted Christians the most.

    The Green-Progressive religion brooks no opposition (except from Islam when it suits them).

  4. This is really an insight into what to expect should the Left ever gain true control over government. While Millennials seem to think Socialism is great, they have no idea what it truly encapsulates. In a typical Socialist society, everyone is treated in the same way, with total distrust.

    It’s a pity that books such as the Gulag Archipelago is no longer read in schools like in my day (is it even available anymore?), where the real horrors of Socialism were explained in no uncertain terms. My family comes from Finland and experienced the annexation of Finnish territory after the second world war.

    My mother related a story to me once about a family they knew, who became enamoured by the Communist dream and migrated to Russia. Before they left, they said if life was great, they’d send a letter written in blue ink and if life was not great, they would send a letter written in red ink.

    Some time after the family migrated, a letter was received saying how great life was in Russia and if they could have found a red pen they would have written the letter in red ink, things were so good. Every letter sent out from Russia in those days was intercepted and read for content.

  5. NB

    ‘with total distrust’
    with total contempt

  6. Leo G

    After Robinson faced those civil contempt charges in a UK Criminal Court in May, it seems to me that he may not have been clearly in breach of the UK’s “strict liability rule” (which loses effect upon sentencing).
    I also expected at some stage, clarification of the court’s justification for acting on its own initiative to prepare a statement and arrange service on Robinson, without at least 14 days notice for a hearing as required by the UK Criminal Procedure Rules [48.9(4)].
    I haven’t read any such clarification. Perhaps this appeal hearing will provide the explanation.

  7. BorisG

    Manaford was talking to potential witnesses. That trump could appoint such an idiot to lead his campaign says a lot about his judgement.

  8. Dr Fred Lenin

    Looks like we Extreme Right wingers will have to Purge the lawtrade in the Western world it has been thoroughly corrupted by communist infiltrators ,be a Chang if the Purgers weren’t communists ,sort of reverse of recent history .

  9. Mak Siccar

    Cats can donate to help Tommy Robinson here

    https://www.therebel.media/help-save-tommy-robinson

    A large skywritten sign (twice) over Sydney this afternoon: Free Tommy

  10. John Constantine

    Australia did put Pauline Hanson in jail to silence her.

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Manaford was talking to potential witnesses. That trump could appoint such an idiot to lead his campaign says a lot about his judgement.

    Witnesses whose identity was hidden by the judge. So he had no idea who not to talk with.

    Manafort is accused of contacting a possible witness in the case; however, the prosecution refuses to tell Manafort who the witnesses or victims are. His defense argues that it’s impossible to avoid contact with witnesses when the prosecution won’t tell the court who the witnesses are. So the judge throws him in jail.

    The judge also has quite a history apparently. I can see some really serious damages coming Manafort’s way after he takes the Mueller mob to the cleaners.

  12. Boambee John

    Boris

    Mueller would not tell Manafort who the potential witnesses are. In essence Manafort could not speak to or communicate with any non-family associates without being vulnerable to charges of “witness tampering”.

    Kafka has many devotees in the Deep State.

  13. David Brewer

    harsh pretrial punishment and an outrageous violation of Paul’s civil liberties at the hands of an Obama appointee

    Legal experts have said Mr Mueller wants to keep applying pressure on Mr Manafort to plead guilty and assist prosecutors with the probe

    The Dems are using the same tactics that worked to bring down Nixon. Remember Sirica blackmailing the Watergate burglars to dob in their bosses:

    Five men who pleaded guilty to charges of conspiracy, burglary, and eaves dropping at the outset of the trial in January were “provisionally” sentenced to maximum terms of 35 and 40 years by Judge Sirica.

    The judge told the five—E. Howard Hunt Jr., Bernard L. Barker, Eugenio R. Martinez, Frank A. Sturgis and Virgilio R. Gonzalez—that their sentences would be the subject of “study” for as long as six months.

    In the meantime, he said, he was sure that they would have an invitaton to appear before various investigating bodies and that he hoped they would take “full advantage” of the opportunity.

    Judge Sirica said he would make “no promises” but that if the men should decide to “speak freely” he would have “to weigh that factor in ap praising what sentence will be finally imposed in each case.”

    Not the only parallel. Sirica also sentenced John Dean to give him credibility with prosecutors, but due to Dean’s subsequent “co-operation” he never served a day in jail:

    On August 2, 1974, Sirica handed down a sentence to Dean of one-to-four years in a minimum-security prison. However, when Dean surrendered as scheduled on September 3, he was diverted to the custody of U.S. Marshals, and kept instead at Fort Holabird (near Baltimore, Maryland) in a special “safe house” holding facility primarily used for witnesses against the Mafia. He spent his days at the offices of Jaworski, the Watergate Special Prosecutor, and testifying in the trial of Watergate conspirators Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson, which concluded on January 1, 1975. All except Parkinson were convicted, largely based upon Dean’s evidence. Dean’s lawyer moved to have his sentence reduced and on January 8, Judge Sirica granted the motion, adjusting Dean’s sentence to time served, which wound up being four months.

    Also notice that just like Muller’s team, the Watergate special prosecutor’s office was packed with Democrats from the previous administration.

  14. Roger

    You know the one about first they came for the Jews.

    By the Rev’d Martin Niemoeller – decorated German submariner from WWI and thereafter a Lutheran pastor, imprisoned in Sachsenhausen & Dachau concentration camps, from 1938 – 1945 for his anti-Nazism. Later he became a peacenik and something of a dupe for the Soviets but that doesn’t subtract from his brave opposition to Hitler, for which he very nearly paid the ultimate price.

  15. Baldrick

    Free Tommy over Randwick Races in Sydney today.

  16. Pickles

    Neither of these are likely to skip bail. It appears the presumption is that they is round for it and might as well start cutting out time.

  17. Bruce in WA

    Free Tommy over Randwick Races in Sydney today.

    And getting hammered with hatred on Twatter by the leftie luvvies who want “skywriting banned on environmental grounds but ESPECIALLY for racist thugs”.

  18. Boambee John

    harsh pretrial punishment and an outrageous violation of Paul’s civil liberties at the hands of an Obama appointee

    Legal experts have said Mr Mueller wants to keep applying pressure on Mr Manafort to plead guilty and assist prosecutors with the probe

    I look forward to the screams of outrage from the lackeys of the Deep State when this technique is used against the likes of Comey, McCabe, Mueller, Brennan and Clapper to “persuade” then to testify against the Crimpton Crime Family.

  19. BorisG
    #2745333, posted on June 23, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    “Faga faga faga, blah blah blah, dick in mouth, dick in mouth.”

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2745356, posted on June 23, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    “Here are some facts cockhead.”

    Here is proof that cockheads like Boris only read headlines and almost never pursue a story to find out facts and truths.
    Rinse
    Repeat
    Rinse
    Repeat

  20. Tel

    Anyone going to a lot of trouble to shut someone up, sure must have a big secret that they don’t want people to hear.

    As that guy at the airport check-in has explained to me over and over… “Sir, if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about.”

  21. BorisG

    Guys, facts and logic do not penetrate your skulls.

    I’ve read quite a bit more than headlines but won’t waste my energy on fuckwits.

  22. BorisG

    it’s more punitive than a 13-month term for any other prisoner, because Tommy is so uniquely endangered in the UK’s prisons, many of which are dominated by Muslim criminal gangs, who have in the past attacked Tommy.

    I know judges sometimes take this into account when sentencing people or in bail applications (remember Monis) but I think it is wrong. Sentensing should not be affected by such factors. Rather the authorities need to ensure the safety of all prisoners in all cases. if they can do it for child rapists, surely they can do it for this fellow.

  23. Mark A

    BorisG
    #2745609, posted on June 24, 2018 at 2:19 am

    I’ve read quite a bit more than headlines but won’t waste my energy on fuckwits.

    That’s commendable, but what is your take on not ‘talking to witnesses’ if you don’t know who they are?

  24. BorisG

    I think he knows full well who they are.

  25. Mark A

    BorisG
    #2745614, posted on June 24, 2018 at 3:20 am

    I think he knows full well who they are.

    Come on Boris, that is laughable. For a guy who has been around politicians and lobbyists for the best part of his carrier, it would mean solitary.

    Surely you don’t mean it seriously.

  26. rickw

    If Tommy gets murdered in prison through “careless” or “accidental” contact with muslim inmates, the British People need to launch an immediate civil war. They need to hang every last policeman and politician they can lay their hands on with few exceptions, then they need to purge their country of invaders.

  27. I am glad to see you lot have progressed to the talking point of “Trump is getting framed just like Nixon”. I don’t even have to bring up Watergate now, you do it yourselves.

  28. As for Manafort, he contacted a potential witness with the express purpose of changing his testimony. He is bang to rights on this one, they caught him red handed. His lawyers can argue that he didn’t know that the person was a potential witness, but if that were true why did Manafort try to change his testimony? That argument makes no sense.

  29. mh

    Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.

  30. BorisG

    Monty good point about Nixon. I missed that.

  31. Gary

    BorisG
    #2745333, posted on June 23, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    Manaford was talking to potential witnesses. That trump could appoint such an idiot to lead his campaign says a lot about his judgement.

    He was previously an adviser to the U.S. presidential campaigns of Republicans Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole.

  32. mareeS

    Tommy is actually a nice bloke. I interviewed him a few years ago, he’s not nearly as rough around the edges as people pretend.

  33. Crossie

    Boambee John
    #2745361, posted on June 23, 2018 at 5:23 pm
    Boris

    Mueller would not tell Manafort who the potential witnesses are. In essence Manafort could not speak to or communicate with any non-family associates without being vulnerable to charges of “witness tampering”.

    Kafka has many devotees in the Deep State.

    What does this show? Never mind the law, we will punish you for helping the candidate we don’t like.

    I wonder if Trump is saving up all these activities to highlight them at rallies closer to midterm election.

  34. Crossie

    mareeS
    #2746264, posted on June 24, 2018 at 8:00 pm
    Tommy is actually a nice bloke. I interviewed him a few years ago, he’s not nearly as rough around the edges as people pretend.

    Every interview I saw and heard of him showed that he is very articulate when you ignore the accent. I admire his dedication to his country and fairness. I am also conscious of the heavy burden all this places on his family. Please God keep them all safe.

  35. BorisG

    He was previously an adviser to the U.S. presidential campaigns of Republicans Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole.

    He was also an advisor to Ukraine’s disgraced president Victor Yanukovich, of the solid gold toilet fame. That should have been a red flag.

  36. Mark A

    BorisG
    #2746356, posted on June 25, 2018 at 2:07 am

    He was previously an adviser to the U.S. presidential campaigns of Republicans Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole.

    He was also an advisor to Ukraine’s disgraced president Victor Yanukovich, of the solid gold toilet fame. That should have been a red flag.

    Why?
    If you are a good organiser and getting paid for a job well done, I can’t see the problem.
    You don’t have to be a devotee of the cause. His was a purely mercenary position.

    As Crossie said ” Never mind the law, we will punish you for helping the candidate we don’t like. “

  37. Chris M

    Australia did put Pauline Hanson in jail to silence her.

    Tony Abbott did.

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