Open Forum: June 23, 2018

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  1. zyconoclast

    EU admits no African country has agreed to host migration centre

    The European Union’s most senior migration official has admitted that no north African country has yet agreed to host migrant screening centres to process refugee claims.

  2. Senile Old Guy

    More:

    The father also revealed the mother left three other children behind, and was crossing the border in search of a job — not in search of asylum. … The combination of erroneous reporting, missing context and lack of due diligence in the reporting process from TIME here are stunning. What was supposed to be a story highlighting the plight of families who are torn apart as they flee violence turned out instead to highlight exactly the kind of case that conservatives say makes the situation at the border complex. Some families are falsely claiming asylum to game the system, knowingly putting their children in danger, and drug traffickers and smugglers are taking advantage of the situation. It’s not as simple as the media class has made it out to be.

    In other words, the leftist media is, yet again, telling lies to advance the “open borders” agenda.

  3. Tom

    My two must-watches for today:

    The best Tucker Carlson Tonight so far this year, covering:

    1. Opening monologue on the left’s new doctrine of immigration without limits.
    2. The media’s unhinged immigration propaganda war: “Let them all in or they will kill you”.
    3. Bongino: leftist propaganda that the left’s enemies are Nazis is designed to precipitate violence.
    4. Gay conservative journalist Chadwick Moore on the LGBT left’s attempt to demonise Chick-fil-A.
    5. Conservative groups fight back against the Southern Poverty Law Centre’s enlisting of Amazon to demonise them.
    6. China expert Senator Marco Rubio on what to do about China’s theft of US intellectual property.
    7. Democrat decries the sacrificing of public health to enrich corporate marijuana entrepreneurs.
    8. Proliferation of smart phones linked to soaring suicide rates among the young.

    Secondly, the Charles Krauthammer: His Words special. For me, apart from anything else, it was a master class on writing.

  4. .

    Our “Leaders”, knaves of the Knights of Malta all, will try to kill you.

    Julia Gillard was a puppet of a white-haired Vatican monk?

    Annie. Change the bong water. It’s getting way too strong.

  5. zyconoclast

    The Family Separation Crisis Isn’t Over for Black Parents

    Media and politicians are focusing on immigrant kids separated from parents, but black kids have been facing a similar crisis for decades thanks to incarceration.

    One in every nine black children in America has a parent in jail. It’s a shocking statistic that has become ever-more shocking as incarceration rates have climbed. Even as President Trump announced an end to his administration’s so-called “Zero Tolerance” immigration policy, which separated children from parents at the border and shocked much of the country, the number of black children separated from their fathers and mothers is on the rise. And, yes, policies pushed by Attorney General Jeff Sessions are likely to exacerbate the problem. Still, the public outcry remains muted.

  6. Mitch M.

    This is the ruse that these nannies have been running for decades: “overweight or obese”. Being slightly”overweight” is not a health risk: being slightly overweight is associated with longer life. Being slightly underweight is actually worse.

    They hate having their cherished positions being challenged by data. There are repeated findings that extra weight with age has many benefits, especially if the patient has some pathologies. I’ve seen the same with cholesterol, that low cholesterol post 65 years of age is a negative, they don’t want to face up to that either. They won’t even admit that milk is not a good source of calcium for adults yet still advise dairy for calcium. It doesn’t boost bone density, possibly because of galactose, which is created by the liver converting lactose. Galactose is a sugar commonly used in lab work to induce tissue damage. It is very frustrating because it leaves the average punter relying on advice from various health authorities, public and private many of which are misleading.

  7. Shy Ted

    First Dag on the Moon hits a new low even by his standards.

  8. Mitch M.

    One in every nine black children in America has a parent in jail.

    And we still don’t fully appreciate the significance of this. .5 hour ago I read something which very much accords with Bowlby’s Attachment Theory:

    A sudden and lasting separation from a parent can permanently alter brain development

  9. Rockdoctor

    Found out the increased security around my local Supermarkets due to bag snatchers. Apparently been a spate of them in the last few weeks. Yeah and checkout operator says feedback about removal of plastic bags has been almost totally negative but people are mostly blue collar round here, most are polite but not happy she said. Notice News.com is now running the counter arguments after the ban is safely in place, hmm…

  10. Top Ender

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2745079, posted on June 23, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Video not available was all I got…

  11. Makka

    Hey OWG, glad you have sorted yourself out. You’e an obnoxious bastard drunk.

    Anyway, thanks for posting the BEST DRIVING SONG EVER……….. Radar Love.

  12. H B Bear

    The only real qualification to actually get a job in the media these days is appearance. You just have to look at the evening news. It’s either a steady silver fox or a pretty nympthette.

    Anyone studying j’ism today is, by definition, too stupid to be doing a degree – even at a Dawkins university. They are as brain dead as the collapsing industry they are seeking to join. Just become a freelance candlestick maker.

  13. Mitch M.

    Anyone studying j’ism today is, by definition, too stupid to be doing a degree – even at a Dawkins university. They are as brain dead as the collapsing industry they are seeking to join. Just become a freelance candlestick maker.

    Journalism used to be a cadetship. A degree in J is just another example of so many resources in tertiary education being wasted on useless courses. The industry is being damaged by bloggers. So much for their expertise.

  14. Top Ender

    Apparently, n1gger must now be referenced and spoken only as “the N-word.”

    I wonder how many schools in the USA, UK, Canada, and here have quietly removed their copies of Huckleberry Finn from the shelves?

  15. Rae

    Don’t be too precious about First Dog. He is better at satire than Leak Jnr. And doesn’t try to draw look-alikes of his subjects. Or copy his fathers style.

  16. Senile Old Guy

    More climate alarm from the ABC. On crocodile s:

    But Professor Stephen Williams from James Cook University (JCU) agreed that as the climate warmed, southward migration was inevitable. … “I was at the beach just up at the Daintree the other day and we saw a three-metre croc swim past just out past the surf line … it’s like yeah that’ll be good fun if that was at the Gold Coast.”

    Routine in tropical Australia. But, you know, they are removed (to crocodile farms) and people still go in the water, where the bigger risk, anyway, is being stung by a box jellyfish. Typical ABC alarmism.

  17. will

    struth
    #2745153, posted on June 23, 2018 at 12:22 pm
    No one gives a flying patoot about global warming these days.

    Tell that to the LNP Lord Mayor of Brisbane, who wants to be “carbon neutral” and is happy to use ratepayers money to pay for it. Great that he implements ALP/Green policies to the delight of the deep state operatives in the bureaurcracy and media. Does he really think they will vote for him?

  18. will

    Rockdoctor
    #2745188, posted on June 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    Found out the increased security around my local Supermarkets due to bag snatchers. Apparently been a spate of them in the last few weeks. Yeah and checkout operator says feedback about removal of plastic bags has been almost totally negative but people are mostly blue collar round here, most are polite but not happy she said. Notice News.com is now running the counter arguments after the ban is safely in place, hmm…

    Tell them they voted for it.

  19. Hahaha, some rich idiot paid someone to skywrite FREE TOMMY in Sydney.

  20. Makka

    The European Union’s most senior migration official has admitted that no north African country has yet agreed to host migrant screening centres to process refugee claims.

    EU idiots. The Africans only want your money, numpties. Not your problems.

  21. I met First Dog once, nice bloke. That cartoon makes a valid point.

  22. areff

    Journalism used to be a cadetship. A degree in J

    In 1969, I think, the Arbitration Commission told the then-Australian Journalists Association (pre-MEAA Clowns Union) that it would be easier to award larger pay rises if journos had tertiary degrees. That would make them “professionals”. RMIT’s journalism course kicked off the following the year, soon to be aped elsewhere. It’s been downhill ever since.

    I wonder just how many young journos can take shorthand — or know how to check Trove.com.au.

  23. Makka

    POTUS, send more troops to the border;

    Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

    “And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

  24. struth

    But Professor Stephen Williams from James Cook University (JCU) agreed that as the climate warmed, southward migration was inevitable. … “I was at the beach just up at the Daintree the other day and we saw a three-metre croc swim past just out past the surf line … it’s like yeah that’ll be good fun if that was at the Gold Coast.”

    These professors aren’t very bright are they?

    Good lord.
    I’d respond about where crocs were found down south before they were hunted and them being territorial and growing in number after being protected, and being territorial are indeed moving further south.
    To where they originally were.
    Blah Blah.
    But the average cat isn’t as thick as your average Australian “professor”.
    No need to explain common knowledge,

  25. .

    Fist Bog of the Loons is worse than crazy old commie Leunig*.

    *(Who thinks the Vietnam War was wrong because “money power” wanted it fought – no regard of what Vietnamese non-communists thought).

  26. Leigh Lowe

    Senile Old Guy

    #2745198, posted on June 23, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    More climate alarm from the ABC. On crocodile s:

    But Professor Stephen Williams from James Cook University (JCU) agreed that as the climate warmed, southward migration was inevitable. … “I was at the beach just up at the Daintree the other day and we saw a three-metre croc swim past just out past the surf line … it’s like yeah that’ll be good fun if that was at the Gold Coast

    Yeah, but nah.
    The wildest alarmists talk about rises of 2 degrees over a century.
    The temperature spread between Cairns and the Gold Coast is 3 degrees in summer and 5-6 degrees in winter.
    Calls himself a scientist, huh?
    Typical tactic.
    “Pay me the money or your tourist numbers will get it in the neck” and wait for some lefty SJW at the ABC to run with it.

  27. jupes

    From the ABC:

    An article declaring that Australian SF in Afghanistan are already guilty of war crimes despite the IG report and possible trials and guilty verdicts still pending.

    Despite the annoyance about the lack of accountability from previous commanders, there is also a recognition among current senior military figures that Australia needs to “rip the band-aid off” over the problems from Afghanistan … But lifelong officers also fear another risk: inaction, no charges, no accountability and no change.

    Then they roll out this pathetic excuse for going after our soldiers:

    The ICC’s Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda has recently expressed a willingness to examine some of the practices of US forces, and attention could then fall on Australia.

    “I can’t see why they wouldn’t be interested in what clearly appear to be war crimes that may have been committed by Australian troops as well,” international law expert Gideon Boas says.

    “Any armed force active in Afghanistan at the time that she’s examining could come under examination, and there’s no reason why Australian forces … wouldn’t be investigated as well.”

    For the ADF leadership, the prospect of a fresh ICC investigation is a very genuine concern.

    “As a signatory to the UN convention we must ensure that The Hague does not see a reason to launch its own war crimes investigations into our conduct,” a senior Defence figure tells the ABC.

    “This must be kept as ‘Team Australia’.”

    First of all the US are not stupid enough to sign up to the sanctimonious fuckwits at the ICC. On the other hand Australia – virtue signalers to the core – were first in line. We are quite happy to send our soldiers to be ‘tried’ and jailed by a bunch of pompous ‘human rights’ lawyers. We even pay a lot of money for the ‘privilege’.

    Secondly, the ICC threat will be used by our own legal parasites to lobby for their own big payday, rather than let the foreign pricks make all the money. This was the excuse used to charge the commandos with manslaughter a few years back. (Luckily on that occasion the judge threw the ridiculous charge out but the soldiers still went through over two years of hell.)

    But seriously can you imagine an Australian government sending our soldiers to the ICC (treason in my opinion)? I have no doubt they would and if it comes to that I hope the units involved mutiny.

  28. H B Bear

    Here’s a tip when Teh Grauniad is poaching people from Crikey you aren’t dealing with a talent rich environment. It’s like being the smartest kid on the short bus. No surprise mUnty found him impressive.

  29. Leo G

    But Professor Stephen Williams from James Cook University (JCU) agreed that as the climate warmed, southward migration was inevitable

    What’s the Earth’s typical latitude temperature gradient in populated climes? As I recall, about a half degree of latitude for each degree Celsius. There’s not much migration, even in a 1 degree Celsius temperature rise.

  30. Makka

    The real story of illegal immigrants and open borders. DJT speaks to the Angel Families, some terrible stories,

    These are the stories that Democrats and people that are weak on immigration, they don’t want to discuss, they don’t want to hear, they don’t want to see, they don’t want to talk about. No major networks sent cameras to their homes or displayed the images of their incredible loved ones across the nightly news. They don’t do that. They don’t talk about the death and destruction caused by people that shouldn’t be here, people that will continuously get into trouble and do bad things.

    For years, their pain was met with silence; their plight was met with indifference. But no more. I told them three years ago when we were together, from day one — just about day one I would say — I said, “I hear you, I see you, and I will never let you down.” And we’ve been working together, and their loved ones have not died in vain. We all know that.

    So here are just a few statistics on the human toll of illegal immigration. According to a 2011 government report, the arrests attached to the criminal alien population included an estimated 25,000 people for homicide, 42,000 for robbery, nearly 70,000 for sex offenses, and nearly 15,000 for kidnapping.

    In Texas alone, within the last seven years, more than a quarter million criminal aliens have been arrested and charged with over 600,000 criminal offenses.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-members-angel-families-immigration/

  31. ABORIGINAL women have told of a code of silence surrounding the sexual assault of children, which they fear is resulting in abuse going unreported.

    Are we collectively experiencing profound social amnesia? The horrific saga of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children in Tennant Creek simply repeats what was happening years ago (& probably still occurs) in the NT and WA in the remote communities. It was only when NT Public Prosecutor Nanette Rogers unloaded what she knew to Tony Jones (I hope I’ve got these details right) on the ABC that the authorities started to act. The “Intervention” under John Howard’s government was the result.

    But on that occasion, as is happening today at Tennant Creek, there was a pushback from the local Aboriginal communities, aided & abetted by southern “progressives” who saw the Intervention as white racism.

  32. Further to the Aboriginal “pushback” on sexual assaults on Aboriginal children – one must pay tribute to the courageous stance of Aboriginal women Jacinta Price, & her formidable mum Bess, in speaking out against this abuse.

  33. Cactus

    Silicon Valley is my favourite TV show at the moment. Seriously good laugh out loud stuff. People who work in the Valley I know also says it is scarily accurate

  34. Bushkid

    Apparently in Big Australia there are a lot of people that do not believe that a kangaroo will deliberately charge a vehicle and ram it, this education only arriving when upside down in a tabledrain.

    Huge numbers of the mad marsupials on the hop out here right now. Seeing more vehicles with smashed windscreens (the crater matching the dimensions of a ‘roo) and not much other damage which is usually indicative of ‘roo impact while on the hop. The silly things just don’t care, as long as they can smash your vehicle.

    The only animal I’ve seen that’s more determined to ram a vehicle is an emu. They’re definitely scary for motorcyclists! I’ve had one pacing alongside the bike, with its head turned to look at me as it’s running along, then do a 90 degree turn and dash right across in front of me. Bird-brained feather-dusters on legs. Big, too.

  35. John Constantine

    https://stockholmcf.org/turkeys-erdogan-says-he-laughed-at-icc-extradition-demand-for-al-bashir/

    “Turkish autocratic President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said he laughed at an International Criminal Court (ICC) demand for the extradition of Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, Hürriyet reported on Thursday.”

    Yet our quisling elites subject Australias military to endless State funded sniping attacks from the left and condemnation from the billion dollar abc bully pulpit and are itching to send the boys to be tried in a star chamber of revenge thirsty commos and peasantistani warlords.

    Imagine frankenstabby bishop announcing she had laughed at any international figure [ except Trumptopia.]

    Comrades.

  36. Mitch M.

    Are we collectively experiencing profound social amnesia? The horrific saga of the sexual abuse of Aboriginal children in Tennant Creek simply repeats what was happening years ago (& probably still occurs) in the NT and WA in the remote communities.

    For decades Vicki and ignored because ya know Noble Savages just aren’t like that. Instead this week more nonsense from Victoria about a treaty with people who worship a big rock. A treaty will change nothing, just another useless symbolic gesture and a diversion from the real problems that need to be addressed.

  37. mizaris

    Rae
    #2745197, posted on June 23, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    Don’t be too precious about First Dog. He is better at satire than Leak Jnr. And doesn’t try to draw look-alikes of his subjects. Or copy his fathers style.

    Hmmmph…ad hom…is that the best this fvckwit troll can do???

  38. .

    If we charge soldiers with murder and manslaughter for literal execution of their orders, shouldn’t we charge their commanders too? Isn’t this what command responsibility is about?

    Imagine that. A Morrison copping charges under this absurd PC army crap.

  39. Makka

    The only animal I’ve seen that’s more determined to ram a vehicle is an emu.

    The stupid things lurk on the side of the road in the scrub then when you are within collision distance, with no other car around for tens of kms, they leap out to cross! Then change direction in the middle of the road in an “oh fuck’ epiphany. Dumber than leftards.

  40. jupes

    If we charge soldiers with murder and manslaughter for literal execution of their orders, shouldn’t we charge their commanders too?

    The ABC rumour is that soldiers will be charged for actions outside their orders.

    Morrison never commanded troops in Afghanistan.

  41. Senile Old Guy

    The National Rugby League has thrown its support behind women’s State of Origin opponents Karina Brown and Vanessa Foliaki after a social media backlash from a segment of fans angry at a photo of the couple kissing at the close of last night’s game in Sydney.

    Of course the NRL has endorsed this. They have been”progressive” for years.

    The NRL replied “welcome to 2018 … can’t wait for you to join us!”

    In other words, up yours.

  42. mh

    If you spend money on Time magazine, you are scum.

  43. OneWorldGovernment

    top ender

    don’t know how that happens but the country I am in does throttle stuff.

    I can see it on my side BUT

  44. mh

    What the media will not report:

  45. lotocoti

    Australian SF in Afghanistan are already guilty of war crimes

    This is all just another we are as bad as them effort.
    Arthur Ponsonby did it, David Irving did it.

  46. Rockdoctor

    The only animal I’ve seen that’s more determined to ram a vehicle is an emu.

    LOL. Had a few incident reports when I was working for Linc Energy on Carmichael (Nee Moray Downs Project) stating similar to this. Worst damage was a smashed side mirror. Don’t know what it was maybe something in the water emus out there were just crazy & did this all the time…

  47. OneWorldGovernment

    I often wonder when an American President just says fuck you and blows away the so called government of mexico and central america.

  48. jupes

    This is all just another we are as bad as them effort.
    Arthur Ponsonby did it, David Irving did it.

    Not so subtle difference though.

    Back in the day the government created propaganda to highlight the badness of the enemy and unite the country to win the war.

    Nowadays the government is creating propaganda to highlight the badness of Australian troops and has never had the slightest interest in winning the war.

  49. OneWorldGovernment

    makka

    you have no idea of the contempt I have for the scum in Canberra.

    If I could tell you where I have been in Canberra then I would have to shoot you.

    Suffice to say that I would smack the living daylights out of the poofta head of ASIO.

  50. cohenite

    Watching Big Jim McLain; we need a few big Jim’s today.

  51. State of Origin players Karina Brown and Vanessa Foliaki kiss after women’s clash

    I hope none of those opposed to this voted Yes recently.

  52. OneWorldGovernment

    Just because

  53. Tel

    This is all just another we are as bad as them effort.
    Arthur Ponsonby did it, David Irving did it.

    It was the Western powers that invaded Afghanistan, not the other way around. We also killed a lot of people (and strangely planted a lot of poppies) while we were over there, which they didn’t do to us over here.

    All that being said, it was NOT the individual soldiers who made that decision to invade Afghanistan, and since there’s no known way to defend your country without having soldiers we cannot disband that armed forces either.

    I don’t believe that Afghanistan is any paradigm of virtue, I don’t support their social system, I don’t believe in their religion (nor any religion), they probably would hurt us if they had the tools to do so… but despite all that, they do have the basic human right to be left alone and on this occasion we chose to invade them. Just pointing that out, because it’s never going to go away.

  54. Tel

    If we charge soldiers with murder and manslaughter for literal execution of their orders, shouldn’t we charge their commanders too? Isn’t this what command responsibility is about?

    Sure, arrest John Howard. He was the guy who acted beyond his given authority.

    The Australian Constitution very clearly limits the use of our military to only defense of the homeland.

    51 The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:
    (vi) the naval and military defence of the Commonwealth and of the several States, and the control of the forces to execute and maintain the laws of the Commonwealth;

    No Australian Constitutional authority exists for Canberra to invade any other nation. None whatsoever.

    Don’t blame the individual soldiers for that. They have to trust the command structure.

  55. Tom

    H/T mh — Paul Joseph Watson: The truth about the border. Brilliant video!

    As Watson says, the left doesn’t give a shit about the children. The only thing the left cares about is raw political power. After Obama, they’re like scag addicts going cold turkey. Whatever it takes, they want more of the scag. Please, please, please, inject some into my eyeballs to make the rush come on faster!

  56. DrBeauGan

    Sure, arrest John Howard. He was the guy who acted beyond his given authority.

    No. He was acting in defence of the homeland by kissing seppo arse. That way they’d be more likely to rescue us from an armed attack from new Zealand.

  57. MsDolittle

    Help please – boutique log splitters. We are know nothings and it’s for a basically decorative open fire. Not petrol or diesel as we don’t like that sort of noise in our suburb. A friend gives us trailer loads of this beautiful long burning wood but Doc’s busting his phuffer valve splitting it.

  58. Tel X 2 posts above –

    Harsh but fair, Tel. Harsh but fair.

  59. rickw

    Hahaha, some rich idiot paid someone to skywrite FREE TOMMY in Sydney.

    You’re a moronic piece of shit.

  60. Delta A

    I saw an electric log splitter just this morning in Warrnambool Aldi.

  61. JC

    MsDolittle
    #2745264, posted on June 23, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    Help please – boutique log splitters. We are know nothings and it’s for a basically decorative open fire. Not petrol or diesel as we don’t like that sort of noise in our suburb. A friend gives us trailer loads of this beautiful long burning wood but Doc’s busting his phuffer valve splitting it.

    I’ll send wifey over. 🙂

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not petrol or diesel as we don’t like that sort of noise in our suburb

    I’ve seen electric log splitters in Bunnings , cost about five hundred dollars.

  63. egg_

    The European Union’s most senior migration official has admitted that no north African country has yet agreed to host migrant screening centres to process refugee claims.

    Not enough bribes?

  64. Just because

    You want a religious musical interlude, OWG?
    Here’s my contribution.

    (Watch on full screen with sound up)

  65. .

    So Tel you’re telling me the horse and buggy constitution permits nuking someone else but not an occupation to provide law and order after the war is over?

    We were Federated as a colonial dominion. You’re not going to try and tell me that legal appeals from Australia to the Queen through the Privy Council still go on, are you?

    If we accept what French J said in the Tampa case (regarding the power to deport or allow entry for aliens and national sovereignty/nationhood) whilst he was still on the Federal Court bench, it would be absurd to say that we don’t have any power to invade anyone.

    My point was that if the witch hunt moves up far enough the chain of command, someone might get red pilled/have an epiphany about how the process now is just politicised BS.

  66. will

    rickw
    #2745268, posted on June 23, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    Hahaha, some rich idiot paid someone to skywrite FREE TOMMY in Sydney.

    You’re a moronic piece of shit.

    This is why we are in a war.

    Brown shirts like Monty want to jail everyone who disagrees with him. The hatred of the left should never be underestimated

  67. Senile Old Guy

    No Australian Constitutional authority exists for Canberra to invade any other nation. None whatsoever.

    How does that work for WW2? Didn’t we invade other countries then?

  68. calli

    Here’s a 12 tonne electric one, MsDoo. Bunnings sells a 22 tonne machine but it costs around $1,800.

  69. Boambee John

    But Professor Stephen Williams from James Cook University (JCU) agreed that as the climate warmed, southward migration was inevitable. … “I was at the beach just up at the Daintree the other day and we saw a three-metre croc swim past just out past the surf line … it’s like yeah that’ll be good fun if that was at the Gold Coast.”

    “Professor” Williams needs to do more research, large crocs were found that far south in the 1930s.

    Obviously caused by gerbil worming in the 2000s!

  70. Rae

    Rae #2745197, posted on June 23, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    Don’t be too precious about First Dog. He is better at satire than Leak Jnr. And doesn’t try to draw look-alikes of his subjects. Or copy his fathers style.

    Hmmmph…ad hom

    Hmmmph … what ad hom? Assuming you know what an ad hom actually is … care to point it out?

    [PS. Calling someone a troll … as you just di … is an adhom]

  71. DrBeauGan

    As Watson says, the left doesn’t give a shit about the children. The only thing the left cares about is raw political power. After Obama, they’re like scag addicts going cold turkey.

    Note that the method is to appeal to the unthinking and sentimental. The idea is to make their opponents look like evil uncaring bastards. If you yourself are an evil uncaring bastard, and you’ve spent your life signalling a virtue you haven’t got in order to deceive yourself, this is inevitable.

    The reply is to point out their hypocrisy. Also, to point out that there are not all that many decent people who care so much about power. The permanently power hungry have something wrong with their brains. It’s a mental illness.

  72. John Constantine

    An electric motor driving a hydraulic ram wood splitter is a common tool.

    Noise doesn’t matter out here, so I can use a petrolmotor driven one and a tractor powered one.

    Tip is to go a size larger than you think you will need and don’t be hesitant about buying a chinese one.

    Ebay gives a large range, just measure up the size of the largest blocks you think you will need to split and go from there.

  73. calli

    Get a 22 tonne petrol one and emit some carbins more efficiently.

  74. OneWorldGovernment

    Tel
    #2745258, posted on June 23, 2018 at 3:18 pm
    It was the Western powers that invaded Afghanistan, not the other way around. We also killed a lot of people (and strangely planted a lot of poppies) while we were over there, which they didn’t do to us over here.

    Tel,

    Not disputing nor arguing against you.

    But I would like to know why the USSR attacked Afghanistan.

    What do you consider?

  75. calli

    What are you splitting? Knotty mongrel ironbark or pine? Makes a difference. Get a big machine to be sure. You don’t want it carking it at the first rough bit.

  76. Tel

    Dot #2745274,

    Once you decide to have a “living Constitution” because the old one is too “horse and buggy” then what you have done is just abandon the Constitution completely. In that case all of Canberra sits on no authority at all.

    I’m telling you what the words say, and these are very simple words, easy to read, plain English. If you have a good reason to make a change, just start petitions, have a referendum, get people to support you. I’m sure plenty of other people probably also want it changed.

  77. thefrolickingmole

    Check in

    vague oppositional statement
    vague oppositional statement
    vague oppositional statement + kiddie grade insult

    I see negative pixel spaces mummies crotch rotted out and he is back here fingerpainting with poo again.

    Scroll the troll.

  78. .

    What’s your point Tel?

    Do you genuinely want it changed or do you actually think the RAAF’s existence is illegal?

  79. Tel

    But I would like to know why the USSR attacked Afghanistan.

    They were commie bastards trying to spread communism to the world. Fortunately modern Russians mostly understand the errors of their ways, although I don’t recall any formal apology.

  80. Myrddin Seren

    The European Union’s most senior migration official has admitted that no north African country has yet agreed to host migrant screening centres to process refugee claims.

    Not enough bribes?

    With pots of EU taxpayer Euros flowing around, doubtless plenty of dosh to siphon off.

    Probably the issue is – what do you do with a stack of undocumented Wannabe Europeans who fail the asylum test ?

    Okay – if the centre was in Libya or Mauritania, doubtless the slave traders would welcome the additional product. However, even the feckless EU is probably going to kick up a stink about handing over women and children to obvious slavers. So what happens to all the residual applicants ?

  81. Makka

    As Watson says, the left doesn’t give a shit about the children. The only thing the left cares about is raw political power. After Obama, they’re like scag addicts going cold turkey.

    The US left and RINO scum are so consumed with their manic hatred of Trump, their despair for loss of power and influence and deeply rooted psychological sickness of signalling their virtues ( as very sick soup of pathologies), they continue set themselves apart from reality. It’s literally driving them crazy.

    Their media is directing US attention to the sicknesses and deviancy of the left, their lies and deceits every day only to be exposed again and again by POTUS. Trump has shown conservatives how to FIGHT. To fight and WIN. How to defeat the left.

    There is zero chance that will happen in Oz. None.

  82. johanna

    Popped into Coles today and found a lot of the checkout staff in conversation with customers about the upcoming plastic bags ban. Customers were mostly asking for information about how it would actually work, and bemoaning what a PITA is is. Nobody was blaming the staff, who seemed less than enthusiastic about what it would be like, although not able to say so.

    Oh, and I learned the hard way today that if you recharge your Telstra prepaid phone before the due date, you lose any remaining time on the old credit. I had the date of 25th in my head, but because I recharged my phone a couple of days early last month, this morning my phone was dead. Had to rely on the kindness of strangers (a nice Indian lady in the street) to call me a cab so that I could get it recharged. Thieves, they are.

    On the upside, after a chilly (-5C) start, it has been a glorious, sunny, windless day here. I did a bit of gardening – pruning roses and vines and such. And I was pleased to see that a couple of ambitious dandelions had been frozen in their tracks. Literally.

    As for the latest immigration debacle in the US, it highlights how Trump’s instincts, honed by decades in commerce and showbiz, are right. The Left is once again revealed as prepared to lie, cheat, use death threats, attack the families and children of politicians and members of Border Patrol – whatever it takes.

    In what universe is it acceptable to want to lock a 12 year old kid in a cage with pedos because you don’t like his father? Or, as someone else did yesterday, to announce that you were going to try to bail him up at his school? Or, to chase the Secretary of Homeland Security out of a restaurant, and then beseige her house?

    In the Left’s universe, it seems.

  83. Rae

    Went shopping at Woolies this arvo. So many smiling, happy people there. A genuine air of bonhomie among shoppers and staff. Multi-use bags being loaded to the gunnels with produce. Not a single use bag in sight. Desirable change is so easy to achieve.

  84. OneWorldGovernment

    areff
    #2745295, posted on June 23, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    Get the welder out:

    Like to see him try that with red gum or box wood.

  85. Mitch M.

    Crypto meltdown: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Bitcoin Cash, EOS, and Litecoin smashed

    Which helps explain why a Taiwan OEM just returned 300,000 GPUs to Nvidia. Now perhaps prices will fall.

  86. thefrolickingmole

    On the work front.
    Boss got knifed, puts me running the safety side of things as well as 1/2 of medical.
    Oh, and on the same day the mines inspectors came for a visit.
    Monday the bigwigs drop in from overseas and I have to explain we need about $1000,000 worth of training and equipment to get back to standard. (the last 3 people to leave mean we effectively cant respond to an on site emergency)
    And the new temp nurse arrived.
    And shes given me a dose of the flu.

    On the plus side they are going to pay me more and I get a company vehicle.
    Posting will be light.

  87. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And the new temp nurse arrived.
    And shes given me a dose of the flu

    As long as that’s all she’s given you…

  88. calli

    I picked up the dog poo this morning in a single use vegetable bag. Unpleasant, as it was still warm from his interior, but I managed to transfer it to another single use veggie bag, carry it home and pop it in the red bin.

    Thank you Woolies for providing them so thoughtfully. Recycling stuff designed for one use only made me feel odiously virtuous.

    Next time I’ll tear off a few dozen so I don’t run out.

  89. “Good afternoon, my name xxxx calling from Microsoft about your internet connection.”

    “That’s a lovely name and what are you wearing?”

    They hung up on me!

  90. C.L.

    ABORIGINAL women have told of a code of silence surrounding the sexual assault of children, which they fear is resulting in abuse going unreported.

    When is the outback vigil and night march?
    Would it be culturally appropriate to send teddy bears, candles and Lisa Wilkinson?

  91. C.L.

    Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

    “And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

    Thanks for the campaign ad, Pancho.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    Went shopping at Woolies this arvo. So many smiling, happy people there. A genuine air of bonhomie among shoppers and staff. Multi-use bags being loaded to the gunnels with produce. Not a single use bag in sight. Desirable change is so easy to achieve.

    Creepy man spotted buying soup for one.

  93. areff

    Unpleasant, as it was still warm from his interior

    When I lived in a snow-cursed land, picking up after my cocker spaniels was a welcome moment of warm-handedness.

  94. C.L.

    ABORIGINAL women have told of a code of silence surrounding the sexual assault of children, which they fear is resulting in abuse going unreported.

    Hang on a sec.
    Isn’t it now ALP policy to arrest people told secretly of child abuse?
    Apparently there are dozens, if not hundreds, of officials and police covering up child molestation and moving on the culprits. Where is the royal commission?
    It’s almost as though Fitzroy leftists only regard child abuse as terrible when churchmen are guilty.
    ABC television personalities, Dorothy Hewett’s friends, Aborigines and public servants get a pass.

  95. H B Bear

    Note that the method is to appeal to the unthinking and sentimental. The idea is to make their opponents look like evil uncaring bastards. If you yourself are an evil uncaring bastard, and you’ve spent your life signalling a virtue you haven’t got in order to deceive yourself, this is inevitable.

    Taleb has nailed this bullshit.

    https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1009517972539478018

    Summed up here.

  96. calli

    Amazing what one can do when forced to be Agile! and Innovative! 🙂

  97. Rockdoctor

    Finally found the act they used to ban plastic bags with this arvo, very interesting and no wonder councils are bleating as it adds a whole new layer of bureaucracy to their tips, also Queensland is meant to get a container return scheme on the failed NSW vending machine model on Jul 1st but if it is still being implemented the media are very quiet on that.

    Finally sect 99G of the Waste & Recycling amendment 2017 states that the Minister must review the ban in 2020 within 3 months. Don’t think it will change much as the LNP wets up her supported the changes but I hope enough people give the minister at the time their thoughts because I know I will be.

  98. Tom

    Googleory is from the government and he’s here to help. (Check your wallet).

  99. Des Deskperson

    ‘Don’t be too precious about First Dog. He is better at satire than Leak Jnr. And doesn’t try to draw look-alikes of his subjects. Or copy his fathers style.’

    First Dog can’t draw much of anything.

    His stuff is just a chronic-writer-of-letters-to-the Fairfax-press standard rant with a few doodles in the margin.

    The satirical meme of turning the disadvantaged into food was, IIRC, first used by Jonathan Swift about three hundred years ago. It’s been flogged quite a bit since than, including by Anthony Burgess. It was favourite of student journos when I was at uni. It’s gotten a tad tired and senile.

  100. DrBeauGan

    Summed up here.

    It’s about exploiting the decency, kind hearts and good manners of most westerners. Once the mass figure it out, there will be hell to pay.

  101. Mitch M.

    Some science journals that claim to peer review papers do not do so

    One estimate puts the number of papers in questionable journals at 400,000

  102. OldOzzie

    Argument
    Erdogan Will Win by Any Means Necessary
    Turkey’s president has plenty of experience stealing elections — and Sunday’s vote is one he can’t afford to lose.

    If you want a preview of what could happen to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, his family, and the edifice to cronyism he has built after Turkey’s national parliamentary and presidential elections Sunday, just look to the recent Malaysian elections. Not only was Prime Minister Najib Razak, whose party had been in power for 61 years, defeated, but also corruption investigations were launched almost immediately.

    Losing the June 24 contest, in other words, is not an option for Erdogan — which is another way of saying he will win by any means necessary.

  103. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Creepy man spotted buying soup for one.

    He has a poster of nude Melania on the wall above his ageing windows laptop on which he spends many minutes each day playing Cock Hero.

  104. OldOzzie

    Poll: Public approval of Mueller is declining

    A new poll conducted by CNN finds that only 41 percent of Americans approve of Robert Mueller’s handling of the Russia investigation. 39 percent disapprove. 1,012 people participated in the survey.

    At the start of the year, 47 percent approved of Mueller’s handling and only 33 percent disapproved. As recently as early May, the split was 44-38 in Mueller’s favor.

  105. Rae

    Googleory is from the government and he’s here to help.

    Tom. “Googleory” is here? I haven’t seen him. But then, you have a head start on me, I’ve only just started on my first drink of the day. He did pop in here a few months ago and said something or other. Please keep us informed of any new recurrence of this rare phenomenon, and any other apparitions that appear to you.

    And get some sleep, Tom. You have a duty to search out some mediocrity at 4.00am tomorrow.

  106. Baldrick

    Classic GrigO’Rae revival:

    Grigory M
    #1853826, posted on November 13, 2015 at 8:53 am
    What a disaster. Garmin Connect crashed yesterday and is still out. I am unable to sync my Vivofit2 and compare results with my fitness competitors.

  107. C.L.

    Tanya Plibersek just declared her loyalty to Bill Shorten.
    Confirmed: she’s backing Albanese, who will challenge.

  108. DrBeauGan

    Thanks for your posts, OldOzzie. They’re very useful.

  109. H B Bear

    Plibbers could be the next Performing Stick Insect.

  110. John Constantine

    Caliph erdogan in Australia.

    “The English language Hurriyet Daily News has reported that Turkey’s ministry of religious ­affairs, the Diyanet, had compiled intelligence reports on Gulen supporters from information provided by imams ­posted to 38 countries, including Australia. Mr Ates said he was not aware of imams spying on worshippers but if they were, the practice was neither new nor ­unexpected. “I wouldn’t be surprised if the imams have been asked to prepare reports,’’ he said. “From the time the republic was founded civil servants were expected to be the agents of the government.’’

    Turkish mosques in Australia have traditionally used imams supplied by the Diyanet, which also provides Friday sermons for imams to deliver throughout the Turkish-speaking world.

    Under Mr Erdogan, the ­Diyanet has become overtly political. Anti-terrorism expert Greg Barton said this was creating deep tensions in Turkey communities abroad. “There is a very aggressive program around the world, through the Turkish Foreign Minister and also through the Diyanet, which is basically a campaign of coercion and surveillance of the Turkish diaspora,’’ Professor Barton said.”

    http://hizmetnews.com/20881/ankara-supplied-clerics-spy-turkish-australian-communities/#.Wy3L1pBDvIU

  111. Baldrick

    Tanya Plibersek just declared her loyalty to Bill Shorten.
    Confirmed: she’s backing Albanese, who will challenge.

    Julie Bishop just announced she’d be happy to work as Deputy to either Shorten or Albanese.

  112. will

    Rockdoctor
    #2745322, posted on June 23, 2018 at 4:27 pm

    Finally found the act they used to ban plastic bags with this arvo, very interesting and no wonder councils are bleating as it adds a whole new layer of bureaucracy to their tips, also Queensland is meant to get a container return scheme on the failed NSW vending machine model on Jul 1st but if it is still being implemented the media are very quiet on that.

    I read somewhere that no company was stupid enough to take this on. So the deranged loons in the Qld State Govt need to find another strategy

  113. jupes

    It was the Western powers that invaded Afghanistan, not the other way around.

    It was Afghanistan who attacked the US first, not the other way around.

    Fucking hell Tel, you’ve got to drop the stupid hippy bullshit. It’s unbecoming.

  114. C.L.

    Julie Bishop just announced she’d be happy to work as Deputy to either Shorten or Albanese.

    Ahahahahahaha.

  115. jupes

    Plibbers could be the next Performing Stick Insect.

    No doubt. The virtue signaler in chief.

  116. Rockdoctor

    will
    #2745354, posted on June 23, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    Metal merchants where I sell all my empty aluminum cans mentioned similar as he went to the flashy seminar and said the compliance paperwork alone was so long he said you would have to be a fool to contemplate. They got no takers in the north Queensland region, apparently same all over the state.

  117. Mark A

    Some people can’t even be honest to themselves.

    Who do they think, they are fooling?

  118. OldOzzie

    PJ Media – Former Top McCain Staffer Urged Lois Lerner to Audit Non-Profits ‘Until It Becomes Financially Ruinous’

    Tom Fitton

    The Obama IRS scandal is not over – as Judicial Watch continues to uncover smoking gun documents that raise questions about how the Obama administration weaponized the IRS, the FEC, FBI, and DOJ to target the First Amendment rights of Americans. https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-irs-documents-revealing-mccains-subcommittee-staff-director-urged-irs-to-engage-in-financially-ruinous-targeting/
    7:18 AM – Jun 22, 2018

    Henry Kerner, who is currently special counsel for the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC), made the shocking suggestion during an April 30, 2013, meeting between Kerner, Lerner, and other high-ranking IRS officials.

  119. cohenite

    ABORIGINAL women have told of a code of silence surrounding the sexual assault of children, which they fear is resulting in abuse going unreported.

    Hang on a sec.
    Isn’t it now ALP policy to arrest people told secretly of child abuse?
    Apparently there are dozens, if not hundreds, of officials and police covering up child molestation and moving on the culprits. Where is the royal commission?
    It’s almost as though Fitzroy leftists only regard child abuse as terrible when churchmen are guilty.
    ABC television personalities, Dorothy Hewett’s friends, Aborigines and public servants get a pass.

    In a litany of left wing horrors and mundane irritations that takes the cake.

  120. feelthebern

    Had a shit of a day.
    Shall be spending Saturday night listening to Joe Rogan & Eric Weinstein.

  121. feelthebern

    Part of me things that Eric Weinstein just has a great memory (as opposed to being the smartest guy on the planet).

  122. cohenite

    Greg Sheridan is a stupid prick:

    What happened in the past few weeks was that the Trump administration decided to strictly and universally enforce US law on the border with Mexico. This meant every illegal arrival would be arrested and taken to prison before being determined to be a refugee or deported.

    But US law says you cannot put innocent children in prison. So more than 2000 children were forcibly separated from their parents. Most people, certainly including me, believe this was a step too far. There is no moral justification for removing a ­tender-age child from its mother unless the mother is a danger to the child.

    This was a rare political miscalculation by Trump.

    It’s a great move because it wedges the liberal judiciary, media and the arsehole demorats. The kids aren’t in prison but detention where he could keep them for 20 days. Men aren’t subject to the 20 day rule. Now with the families back together even though many of them are false families set up by the cartels the court will have to decide to break up the ‘family’ or keep the lot in for more than 20 days.

    The left, especially smarms like Sheridan are as dumb as dog shit.

  123. Geriatric Mayfly

    Plibbers could be the next Performing Stick Insect.

    Very slender lines on a stick insect, part of the stabby camouflage. Plibbers is a bit too plump, more like a three toed sloth.

  124. nemkat

    Thefrolinkinmole @ 2745307:
    On the plus side they are going to pay me more and I get a company vehicle.
    Posting will be light.

    Win/win, for sure.
    Just going back a bit, wasn’t the original problem your deeming a work injury to be trivial when it wasn’t?
    Have you handed in your First Aid Ticket yet?

  125. rickw

    Here’s a 12 tonne electric one, MsDoo. Bunnings sells a 22 tonne machine but it costs around $1,800.

    A mate and I built one based on a 10” UC, 8” ram, powered by a 1600cc VW. Oh, and the column lay flat for transport and was then hydraulically rotated to vertical like a missile launcher.

    Insanity level log splitter.

  126. rickw

    Greg Sheridan is a stupid prick

    Yes, actually as dumb as dog shit.

  127. Dr Fred Lenin

    Just reading South China Post,opinion is China hesitant to respond y=too hard to Trumps tariffs they don’t want a fair dinkum trade war . As I have said before the last thing an unelected communisr[t fascist regime wants are millions of disappointed unemployed that would revolt and destroy them with great predjudice .
    And I still think the North Koreans have lost their nuclear capacity when the mountain the facility was in was destroyed in an own goal nuclear explosion probably started a chain reaction . They also lost their technicians and scientists and a lot of top security people . You don’t think the fascists would give their nuke people freedom of movement and continual supervision. Talk about eggs in baskets that’s why fattie is keen to talk ,he also gets the Chinese off his back a bit,Trump is a winner ,great after all the losers we have had to put up with

  128. thefrolickingmole

    Dumbcat is calling me a doctor now?
    Quite a promotion.

    I dont “clear” anyone, I refer people to doctors for that you mouth breathing invertebrate molester.

  129. jupes

    Greg Sheridan is a stupid prick

    Sheridan is a deep-state sycophant. That’s where all his contacts are and the main reason he is wrong about most things Trump.

  130. And I still think the North Koreans have lost their nuclear capacity when the mountain the facility was in was destroyed in an own goal nuclear explosion probably started a chain reaction

    You’re definitely on the money, Dr Fred, although I’m not sure about the “own goal Accident” bit.
    I think they may have had a bit of “help”.

  131. areff

    Had a shit of a day.
    Shall be spending Saturday night listening to Joe Rogan & Eric Weinstein.

    No sympathy from this Bulldogs barracker.

  132. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    NETFLIX has fired its chief communications officer after he made “insensitive remarks” in a meeting with colleagues, reportedly using the N-word multiple times.

  133. DrBeauGan

    jupes
    #2745385, posted on June 23, 2018 at 6:04 pm
    Greg Sheridan is a stupid prick

    Sheridan is a deep-state sycophant. That’s where all his contacts are and the main reason he is wrong about most things Trump.

    And his contacts are using him much more than he is using them.

  134. nemkat

    No, I’m not calling you a Doctor, I’m not even calling you a First Aider.
    I’m referring to your admission the other day that the W,H, & S fuckup at your place of work was your fault, and that some poor bastard was going to pay the price.

  135. calli

    Fantastic! Our 1.2 billion finally paid for an update.

    On top of the news as usual.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking for “Downton Abbey” fans.

    There’s a good look at life in the English country house, between the Wars, in “The Long Weekend” by Adrian Tinniswood. Seems one “confirmed bachelor” committed the ultimate social gaffe, by being caught “in flagrante delicto” with his valet, diarist “Chips” Channon enlivened a reception for various members of European royalty by spiking the cocktails with Benzedrine, and one Earl Beauchamp, divorced by his wife for “perverted sexual practices” and “acts of gross indecency with the male servants” was forced to flee to the Continent, where his brother in law sent him a charming note “Dear Bugger – in – Law, you got what you deserved.” Interesting reading.

  137. areff

    Don’t worry, Calli. They’ll be claiming the little girl subsequently was eaten by a crocodile driven to ravenous hunger by climate change.

  138. MsDolittle

    Doc went to Hawthorn Bunnings this arvo and asked about wood splitter. Apparently they had one there earlier in the year and moved it to Nunawading. Since then the guy reckons he could have sold it 10 times over. Thanks for all the advice: go big or go home. Got it. It’s definitely ironbark, twisted and dense, like Rae.

  139. Roger

    Apropos nothing at all, I wonder if some questions about Albanese’s parliamentary citizenship declaration might soon be planted in the press gallery/garden?

  140. jupes

    Fantastic! Our 1.2 billion finally paid for an update.

    Wow. How did that one slip past the gate-keepers?

  141. Atoms for Peace

    Plibbers backing Shorten; I’ll have what Albos about to have.

  142. nemkat

    Apart from Albanese being a Protected Species, there’s no percentage in it this late in the day.
    Shorten either lives or dies on those By Election results

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    And I still think the North Koreans have lost their nuclear capacity when the mountain the facility was in was destroyed in an own goal nuclear explosion probably started a chain reaction . They also lost their technicians and scientists and a lot of top security people .

    The collapse of the nuclear mountain has the Chinese very attentive. Kim was ordered back to China earlier this week.

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is in China on a two-day visit: Chinese state media

    • This is Kim’s third trip to China this year, coming less than a week after he met Trump in Singapore for historic talks.
    • A Kim trip to China to discuss his summit with Trump had been widely anticipated in diplomatic circles. China is North Korea’s most important diplomatic and economic backer but has been angered by Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile tests.

    In an unusual move, Chinese state media announced Kim’s visit and said he would stay for two days. Previously China would only confirm Kim had visited after he had left the country. No other details were provided.

    I suspect Mr Xi is carefully keeping a rein on Kim and his deep staters, so they don’t stuff it up. Xi wants a North Korea buffer which exists but which doesn’t rain fallout, either nuclear or human, all over northern China.

  144. zyconoclast

    This really kicks off at the 1:45 mark.

  145. thefrolickingmole

    referring to your admission the other day that the W,H, & S fuckup at your place of work was your fault

    Lying liar lies, no-one surprised.

    Im not even annoyed, just gobsmacked at your willingness to lie on a public forum, I might add with your usual complete lack of proof.

    So slimy slugs pour salt on you.

  146. I suspect Mr Xi is carefully keeping a rein on Kim and his deep staters, so they don’t stuff it up.

    22 divisions – 150,000 men – of the Chinese army now sitting on the North Korean border tends to suggest you are right, BoN.

  147. Baldrick

    Fantastic! Our 1.2 billion finally paid for an update.

    Yes calli, but they still won’t show this picture.

  148. egg_

    You’re definitely on the money, Dr Fred, although I’m not sure about the “own goal Accident” bit.
    I think they may have had a bit of “help”.

    +1

  149. woolfe

    Plibbers is Shortens Skeletor. Whatever it takes. We R Us.

  150. Atoms for Peace

    Frockling . Socks can talk out of both sides of their mouth at the same time. Bit like Mumbles from Dick Tracy

  151. egg_

    Plibbers could be the next Performing Stick Insect.

    Plibbers is a bit too plump, more like a three toed sloth.

    With a ready supply of horse tranquilisers.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Mater has a log splitter from memory.
    And he delivers to the Metro area … maybe.
    Real men split using a manual splitter (but squiggly grain timbers like red gum, or junctions where a major branch meets the trunk can be tough).

  153. cohenite

    Supermarket plastic bag ban ‘like religion’

    Adam Creighton The Australian June 23, 2018

    The author of a landmark study into plastic bags has likened to “religion” their impending removal from supermarkets, suggesting ­arguments against them are “complete furphies you can demolish in a few minutes of analysis”.

    Phillip Weickhardt, lead ­author of a 2006 Productivity Commission inquiry into waste management, said raising fines for littering made more sense.

    “This is largely religion, deeply felt,” he told The Weekend Australian. “Plastic bags are useful: ­hygienic, water proof. They have multiple uses and functions,” he added.

    Coles will join Woolworths in removing “single use” plastic bags from its stores next month, extending nationwide bans on the ubiquitous bags already in place across all states and territories ­except NSW and Victoria.

    “The evidence plastic bags hurt marine life is very unpersuasive. When we looked at this we found that a lot of studies just cite each other; in fact we sourced it all back to some guy in Canada in the 1970s who’d done a study on the effect of fishing ropes on marine life,” he said.

    Woolworths surveyed 12,500 of its customers last month, finding more than three-quarters wanted plastic bags scrapped. The retail giant, which gave out 3.2 billion plastic bags last year, points to a CSIRO study that found up to a third of the world’s turtles and 43 per cent of seabirds had eaten plastics.

    The Productivity Commission in 2006 concluded: “Plastic bags take up little landfill space, and their inert characteristics can ­actually help to reduce a landfill’s potential for adverse environmental impacts”. “The true extent to which plastic-bag litter injures populations of marine wildlife, as opposed to individual animals, is likely to remain very uncertain ­because it is extremely difficult to measure,” it added.

    Mr Weickhardt said: “Our conclusion generated the most angry vocal response from people who, with religious fervour, believe this is critical.”

    The retail giants will instead offer a range of reusable bags, ­including 15c recycled bags.

    A recent study in Britain, where plastic bags are taxed, found re­usable bags needed to be reused up to 173 times before they had a lower environmental impact than ordinary plastic bags.

    “The environmental impact of all types of carrier bag is domin­ated by resource use and production,” it found.

    “Whatever type of bag is used, the key to reducing the impacts is to reuse it as many times as possible and where reuse for shopping is not practicable, other reuse, eg store-place bin-liners, is beneficial,” it said.

    A 2012 University of Pennsylvania study found San Francisco’s 2007 plastic bag ban killed people because reusable bags increased shoppers’ exposure to harmful bacteria that can infest them. “The San Francisco ban led to, conservatively, 5.4 annual additional deaths,” the authors concluded.

    RMIT economist Sinclair ­Davidson said he was surprised Coles and Woolworths would ­“deliberately pursue a policy that they know will reduce the consumer satisfaction”.

    “How consumers react remains to be seen — I suspect we’ll see less impulse purchasing,” Professor Davidson said.

    “All-up, this is a virtue-signalling policy being adopted by Coles and Woolies; I suspect they have done their market research and are pretty confident they can impose their world view on consumers with little consequence.’’
    1/ Woolworths gave out 3.2 billion plastic bags last year.

    I only buy on impulse. You have to trust your first impressions.

  154. nemkat

    Plenty of Palmer billboards on te main roads now.
    Put Australia First, he says.
    Sounds good, but how he can square that with flying Asylum seekers in by the planeload beats me.
    Maybe the Press won’t ask him?

  155. OldOzzie

    MsDolittle
    #2745401, posted on June 23, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    Doc went to Hawthorn Bunnings this arvo and asked about wood splitter. Apparently they had one there earlier in the year and moved it to Nunawading. Since then the guy reckons he could have sold it 10 times over. Thanks for all the advice: go big or go home. Got it. It’s definitely ironbark, twisted and dense, like Rae.

    Go Big

  156. egg_

    Supermarket plastic bag ban ‘like religion’

    Hence, Craig Reucassel is all over it on Aunty’s ‘War on Waste’.

  157. zyconoclast

    Went shopping at Woolies this arvo. So many smiling, happy people there. A genuine air of bonhomie among shoppers and staff. Multi-use bags being loaded to the gunnels with produce. Not a single use bag in sight. Desirable change is so easy to achieve.

    Creepy man spotted buying soup for one.

    When will they ban single use condoms?

  158. Rae

    Lying liar lies, no-one surprised.

    Yes indeed, Hole. Looks like you face-planted massively again (you are the World Champion).

    A workers comp fuckup

    Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa

    Because it was originally seen as a minor injury (confirmed twice by doctors) it was handled “in house” rather than through the insurer.
    Worker had it imaged for the second time and damage was found.

    Ive been concerned about it since day one, having been involved in his first treatment (I was the first person he saw) and my worst estimate ended up not being bad enough.

    So, you fucked up and let your boss get canned for it. What a low-life you are.

  159. Rae

    Bit like Mumbles from Dick Tracy

    Who only ever said “Boola, boola”. About the same level of communication skills as yourself.

  160. slackster

    nemkat
    #2745405, posted on June 23, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    Apart from Albanese being a Protected Species, there’s no percentage in it this late in the day.
    Shorten either lives or dies on those By Election results

    Labors internal polling must be showing a bloodbath for them

  161. Baldrick

    Looks like the Trolls finished his boxed Aldi Tassal Premium Salmon Fillets with Herb Butter and White Wine and Coriander and Lemon Couscous and is now in need of some desert.

    Keep those big wheels scrollin’.

  162. Rae

    NETFLIX has fired its chief communications officer after he made “insensitive remarks” in a meeting with colleagues, reportedly using the N-word multiple times.

    Couldn’t tear yourself away from Cock Hero long enough to scroll up, hey?

  163. H B Bear

    Labors internal polling must be showing a bloodbath for them

    I wouldn’t be surprised. While the Liars have always had their nose in front on the 2PP (but never by an amount that couldn’t be turned around by a half decent campaign when people are actually tuned in), Peanut Head’s Preferred PM numbers have been woeful for years.

    He is as popular as herpes and that ain’t changing. Tits is in as much danger as a young girl at an ALP youth camp.

  164. Infidel Tiger

    Tonga vs Samoa at Campbelltown Stadium. Full house.

    Average weight of crowd 125kgs.

  165. Oh come on

    A friendly piece of advice – be discerning about those you choose to interact with. You know what I mean.

  166. Infidel Tiger

    It’s a war dance off. Crowd going coco bananas.

    It’s better than anything the australia council has done.

  167. Rae

    A friendly piece of advice – be discerning about those you choose to interact with. You know what I mean.

    A friendly “Thanks. I always am”. If you get my drift.

  168. Boambee John

    Before interacting with trolls, please give consideration to the effect your encouragement has on those suffering from Repetitive Scrolling Injury.

  169. Infidel Tiger

    A friendly “Thanks. I always am”. If you get my drift.

    Yes, we know you defile your mother’s corpse.

    Quiet please, sicko.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Jesus.
    Saturday night football on Channel 7.
    Crack commentary team … James Brayshaw (barracking for North), Luke Darcy (barracking for Footscray), Matty Richardson abd Cameron Ling.
    FMD.

  171. Oh come on

    Tits is in as much danger as a young girl at an ALP youth camp.

    It’s much worse than that. He’s in as much danger as a young boy at an ALP leadership retreat.

  172. Nick

    IT is right. The coconut cup is a cracker. How come our abbos can’t even come up with a dec not war dance ?

  173. Top Ender

    Anyone watched Fauda, aparently now on Netflix?

    Need something for our weekly viewing when we finish The Staircase.

  174. thefrolickingmole

    Because it was originally seen as a minor injury (confirmed twice by doctors)

    Highlighted for the hydrocephalus affected.

    Lying liar lies, with extremely poor comprehension skill as well.

  175. Herodotus

    Oh yes. Amazing concern over child abuse by our lefty friends – unless done by their lefty friends, or by indigenes.

  176. Rae

    Lying liar who lies, Hole. That’s you. Without a doubt.

    (I was the first person he saw) and my worst estimate ended up not being bad enough.

    By your own admission, you fucked up. And you let your boss get canned for it. A liar and a low-life is what you are.

    You should pin a written confession on your shirt front and use a necktie on yourself in the ladies toilet at that gold mine you say you work at.

  177. Roger

    The author of a landmark study into plastic bags has likened to “religion” their impending removal from supermarkets, suggesting ­arguments against them are “complete furphies you can demolish in a few minutes of analysis”.

    Please, let’s not bring religion into what is a completely irrational enterprise.

    Multi-use plastic bags need to be used 104 X to = the single use bag environmental impact.

    Jute & cotton bags 130+ X.

    [Figures courtesy NSW EPA]

    The latter might just stand up to that usage (we await the research), but there’s no way the 15c plastic ones will.

    Meanwhile, the supermarkets will pocket 6c per unit profit on the latter.

  178. John Constantine

    Careful with the attention seeker fascinated with medical stuff., remember when he went off for an entire month over that smell of cooking human flesh thing?.

  179. Death Giraffe

    Pyschologist gave me written results for IQ and personality tests yesterday.
    Bad news.
    I am actually smarter than most of you.
    We’re all fucked.

  180. Snoopy

    Plibersek confirms hereslf as a lying liar. I’m shocked by her unwitting honesty.

    Mr Shorten did not hold a media event today but his deputy, Ms Plibersek, dealt with numerous questions about the speech when she fronted reporters.

    She said she was yet to read the transcript.

    “I was in Longman yesterday, I had a work function last night, I went to the gym this morning, I did the grocery shopping,” she said.

  181. Confused Old Misfit

    Plibersek reminds me of that brassy bitch who used to head up the USA’s Planned Parenthood Murder Syndicate.

  182. The coming by-elections will have little influence on the leadership of the parliamentary Labor Party. Shorten was installed as Leader by Labor Right, which had the numbers at the time. The recent election of Wayne Swan as President of the Labor Party tends to suggest that the numbers are now with Labor Left.

    That means parliamentary leadership will soon pass to Albosleazy regardless of the outcomes in July. Plibbers wil remain deputy.

  183. cohenite

    Very fast, tough game between Tonga and Samoa; great skills. Earlier Papua pizzled Fiji. League’s bright future.

  184. Rae

    I went to the gym this morning, I did the grocery shopping

    Meh. I did that, plus two loads of washing.

  185. Death Giraffe

    But seriously.
    The test breaks down into verbal, reasoning, working memory and processing speed.
    Apparently I have almost no working memory.
    What?
    Where was I?
    Um…

  186. cohenite

    That means parliamentary leadership will soon pass to Albosleazy regardless of the outcomes in July. Plibbers wil remain deputy.

    That’s disappointing. I was looking forward to having a PM with a r..e allegation against him and a deputy PM with a convicted drug dealer as a hubbie. What’s albo done FFS.

  187. thefrolickingmole

    Everyone get the new medical zeitgeist.

    The first person you see is responsible for all medical procedures from then on.

    You are just embarrassing yourself now.

    Low energy
    Sad
    Disappointment.

  188. cohenite

    Meh. I did that, plus two loads of washing.

    So you do have 2 heads.

  189. Frank

    Pyschologist gave me written results for IQ and personality tests yesterday.

    But which of the personality foibles were mentioned?

  190. Turnip

    16 page welcome to country tonight

  191. Nick

    Cats won’t believe this but in person, Tanya Plibersek is absolutely charming, down to earth and with a great sense of humour. I’m serious. Albo too, is ok. At least he actually believes in something.

  192. Death Giraffe

    But which of the personality foibles were mentioned?

    ..
    Oh geeze.
    How long ya got?
    Still.
    Have to be better than log spliters, island rugby and the regular back and forth and so on between Grigory and lthefs.

  193. JamesS

    Might read the new Lindt Cafe book by Deborah Snow – judicial incompetence? Police tactics? Psychiatrist on the negotiations? Everyone thinking happy thoughts? Wonder what the book has to say. Man Haron wanting a one way ticket to martyrdom? If the judiciary acted properly there would be more than 1 in 9 blokes in these remote communities up for child abuse. Just sickening.

  194. Rae

    The first person you see is responsible for all medical procedures from then on.

    You written that confession yet? You already have the words. Then ask someone for a necktie and directions to the ladies toilet. Lowlife.

    Put some betadine on you face first.

  195. jupes

    Apparently I have almost no working memory.

    Surely you remember the carton you owe me?

  196. Woolfe

    Some white dude giving the welcome to country, ffs.

  197. Tanya Plibersek is absolutely charming, down to earth and with a great sense of humour.

    I can believe it. I have never met her in the flesh, but long before she was elected to parliament I spoke with her a few times on the phone. One night when something terrible happened, we wept together at our impotence to do anything about it.

  198. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Might read the new Lindt Cafe book by Deborah Snow –

    Be interested in what you think – I’ve always believed that certain N.S.W. police officers wanted to endorse their resumes “Successfully concluded hostage situation by negotiation” and they were afraid of a backlash from certain suburbs of Western Sydney.

  199. jupes

    Cats won’t believe this but in person, Tanya Plibersek is absolutely charming, down to earth and with a great sense of humour.

    Correct. We don’t.

    I’m serious.

    No. You’re gullible.

    Albo too, is ok. At least he actually believes in something.

    Yeah. Climate change and open borders. Well fuck that.

    Give yourself an uppercut you idiot.

  200. jupes

    One night when something terrible happened, we wept together at our impotence to do anything about it.

    Fuck. Me. Dead.

  201. Death Giraffe

    …maladaptive behaviour patterns… obsessive- compulsive… multiple phobias… potentially harmful… disturbing traumatic events… significant problematic personality traits… impulsivity… hostility…
    ..

    Was this guy even listening go me at all?

  202. Gab

    but in person, Tanya Plibersek is absolutely charming, down to earth and with a great sense of humour. I’m serious. Albo too, is ok.

    That’s nice but I don’t vote for how “nice” someone is. What are their policies? Anything that will get out of way of Australia and business to allow the economy to thrive? Or just most strangling socialist drivel?

  203. Fuck. Me. Dead.

    Alive or dead, unfortunately that is now a bridge too far.

  204. nemkat

    thefrolickingmole
    #2745461

    The first person you see is responsible for all medical procedures from then on.

    You were paid to be First Responder, doofus.
    The responsible thing to do would have been to admit you’re a no hoper and get the bloke to the hospital, not handball him to the Company Doctor.

  205. H B Bear

    What’s albo done FFS.

    Albosleazy might be the first bastard parliamentarian to find and then lose his Dad. As Oscar Wilde once said, “To find one parent may be regarded as a good fortune; to lose him again looks like contrivance” or something.

  206. DrBeauGan

    memoryvault
    #2745474, posted on June 23, 2018 at 8:10 pm
    Tanya Plibersek is absolutely charming, down to earth and with a great sense of humour.

    I can believe it. I have never met her in the flesh, but long before she was elected to parliament I spoke with her a few times on the phone. One night when something terrible happened, we wept together at our impotence to do anything about it.

    You’ve been manipulated via your feelings, MV. Politicians specialise in that.

  207. nemkat

    No way is that old bloke Albo’s dad.
    Looks nothing like him.
    The shipboard romance fairytale was used to explain Eamon De Valera’s existence too, but no proof was ever found.

  208. H B Bear

    Plibber’s record of failures as a Minister is rivaled possibly only by kd wrong’s record as Finance Minister.

  209. H B Bear

    Plibber’s record of failures as a Minister is rivaled possibly only by kd wrong’s record as Finance Minister.

  210. Nick

    Give yourself an uppercut you idiot.

    Go fuck yourslf with a bottle of Israeli wine.

  211. Snoopy

    Sorry. I was struck dumb.

  212. H B Bear

    I hope you aren’t expecting a “fvck off” for that low energy level trolling nemsock?

  213. Elle

    Avi Yemini, you have my support.

  214. Death Giraffe

    Who designs these phones?
    Why is every fucking thing now designed for people with eleven year old little midget girl fingers?
    I want a phone built like the controller on a 1983 Fanuc CNC lathe.
    With fuck off big chunky waterproof keys the size of water crackers.
    Something you could utilize to bash in the skull of a medium-sized marsupial, and then use to call PETA and brag about it.

  215. Nick

    That’s nice but I don’t vote for how “nice” someone is. What are their policies? Anything that will get out of way of Australia and business to allow the economy to thrive? Or just most strangling socialist drivel?

    Agree. I’ve a further anecdote where she went out of her way to help someone I know when she didn’t have to. I don’t care for Tanya’s politics, though for some reason I can’t imagine Turnbull or Pyne as examples, having an ounce of her good nature, it’s a strange world.

  216. Snoopy

    I can believe it. I have never met her in the flesh, but long before she was elected to parliament I spoke with her a few times on the phone. One night when something terrible happened, we wept together at our impotence to do anything about it.

    Old MV: Vote Them.

    New MV: Vote Quim.

  217. Armadillo

    According to Plibers wiki page, her main political positions have been on Abortion, LGBT, Iraq War and Israel.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_Plibersek

  218. You’ve been manipulated via your feelings, MV. Politicians specialise in that.

    Pliebers would have been 21 at the time – long before she learned how to be a politician.

  219. jupes

    Go fuck yourslf with a bottle of Israeli wine.

    Mate if you drank Israeli wine you wouldn’t allow yourself to be charmed by socialist fuckwits.

  220. Death Giraffe

    Everyone’s bloody charming until you talk to them about things that matter.
    That is why you all burble on uselessly about stupid football all day.

  221. Armadillo

    Tanya

    1) As Minister for Health, Plibersek approved listing the abortion drug RU-486 on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme.
    2) Plibersek campaigned for the removal from federal legislation of discrimination against same-sex de facto couples, raising the issue formally in Parliament on multiple occasions (including 1999),[21] 2006,[22] and 2008[23] over her parliamentary career
    3) It was reported that when US President, George W. Bush, visited the Australian Parliament in 2003, ‘Sydney Labor MP Tanya Plibersek walked around the chamber as President Bush shook hands with MPs to give Bush’s national security adviser Condoleezza Rice a book of speeches by Labor MPs opposing Australia invading Iraq without UN approval.
    4) Speaking in the House of Representatives on 17 September 2002, Plibersek said: “I can think of a rogue state which consistently ignores UN resolutions, whose ruler is a war criminal responsible for the massacres of civilians in refugee camps outside its borders.

    But hey, she’s really nice.

  222. jupes

    That is why you all burble on uselessly about stupid football all day.

    Fuck off Arky.

    Nothing matters more than football.

  223. H B Bear

    According to Plibers wiki page, her main political positions have been on Abortion, LGBT, Iraq War and Israel.

    Plibbers and Albosleazy are and have always been hard Left. Once upon a time neither would have even been spoken about as possible PMs.

  224. calli

    I’m sure Tanya’s charming, sugar coated even. But politician Tanya has no time for the unwanted unborn or J-ws.

    So nice Tanya can take a flying leap.

  225. Rossini

    Top Ender
    #2745446, posted on June 23, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    Anyone watched Fauda, apparently now on Netflix?

    Well worth the time watching. IMO

  226. calli

    On second thoughts, Tanya can go make the fellas some nice sandwiches.

  227. Typical Cat tribal response. I was remarking on a girl from nearly 30 years ago. She would have been around 21 at the time. Nobody denied that these days she’s a hard-nosed politician, motivated by little else than her political ambitions. Like most of them.

  228. Infidel Tiger

    International rugby is just a joke.

    It is unwatchable rubbish and a blight on society.

  229. Death Giraffe

    Fuck off Arky.

    ..
    That’s just damn rude.
    You heel.

  230. jupes

    Typical Cat tribal response.

    You dickhead.

    What the fuck were you doing sooking with young socialist females back in the day.

    Harden up you twit.

  231. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2745513, posted on June 23, 2018 at 8:46 pm

    International rugby is just a joke.

    It is unwatchable rubbish and a blight on society

    Don’t flick it over to Footscray vs North Melbourne, whatever you do.
    My turnovers than a French bakery.

  232. calli

    Lol, MV. Like the response when I commented that Michael Kirby did a kind thing for me. SRR went into meltdown, accusing me and my child of all sorts of iniquity.

    I understand that compartmentalisation of life is as common in pollies as anyone else. Did a quote for her once. She didn’t have two heads then either. 🙂

  233. jupes

    International rugby is just a joke.

    FIFY

  234. calli

    I’m watching and cussing. Yellow card indeed!

  235. Snoopy

    FFS MV, JC is MIA and you stick your head up. What do you expect?

  236. Makka

    Need something for our weekly viewing when we finish The Staircase.

    Line of Duty?

  237. jupes

    That’s just damn rude.

    Sorry. I forgot that you now identify as a giraffe.

    But seriously Arky, you live in Melbourne FFS. If you don’t support a footy team by now you should be deported.

  238. Infidel Tiger

    It’s now illegal to jump for the ball in international rugby.

    On top of that there are more stupid rules than a kids make believe game.

  239. jupes

    North better get their act together.

    My multi depends on it.

  240. cohenite

    Plibbers is an anti-Semite; she is pro-alarmism, renewables and the black arm-band view of aboriginal history which is an oxymoron. She is a class warrior and I repeat married to a convicted drug dealer.

    I want her as deputy PM with tits as PM; Australia deserves these 2.

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