Open Forum: June 23, 2018

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  1. areff

    Beer bottles were also worthless.

    Not entirely. Where I grew up the locals used to bury them upside down to line garden paths. Neighbours with airs and graces painted them white.

  2. Herodotus

    Or possibly threepence for bottles. It was a silver coin, anyway.

  3. Herodotus

    Haha! And who can forget the garden ornament swans cut from old tyres?

  4. Mater

    Since the supermarkets have made such a big deal of their green virtue, they need to be held to their own standards and forced to accept the return of ALL plastics they sell

    As part of some ‘nude food’ initiative, my kids Principle announced that all children are to take all food related refuse home, to be disposed of by parents. Apparently it is costing the school too much in waste management.
    And, yes, she is inspecting bins. Yet, she seems puzzled by the increase in litter in the yard.

  5. feelthebern

    NY Times has a piece saying 90% of Republicans support Trump.
    More now, post last weeks immigration stuff going in.

  6. areff

    who can forget the garden ornament swans cut from old tyres?

    And letterboxes atop curly lengths of welded chain. Wog-a-phobia manifested itself in disdain for Italians who grew tomatoes in their front yards, plus Greeks who moored a lamb out front around Christmas and then made it disappear just before the Orthodox Easter feast.

  7. feelthebern

    What a month for GE.
    First they get booted out of the DJIA.
    Now they are selling their industrial engines unit.
    Imagine telling a punter 25 years ago this would happen.

  8. Dr Faustus

    Labor makes company tax fight all about Malcolm Turnbull’s money

    The advertisement, to be used this week in campaigning for the Super Saturday July 28 byelections, says Turnbull “has millions invested in funds which hold shares in dozens of big businesses that would benefit from the tax cuts.”

    Labor also issued details of Turnbull’s investments, saying his statement of interests “shows that, through at least 15 of his 39 managed funds, he invests in 18 businesses that have a turnover of more than $50 million and an additional 14 businesses that have a turnover of more than $1 billion per year.”

    As do I. As does almost everyone who invests in managed funds. As does everyone with an industry superannuation account.

    This has been coming for months. A smart political operator would already have a detailed shit list of the personal wealth of Labor luminaries, ready to feed the media with a ‘some pigs are more equal than others‘ story.

    Turnbull will just grimace.

  9. Dr Faustus

    Shorten says he’s not offended by Albanese’s Labor manifesto speech

    The Labor leader said he had had an “amicable chat” with Albanese since Friday’s speech. “He said he thought [reaction to the speech] was overblown and I agreed with him,” Shorten said.

    When asked if Albanese should have given Shorten more credit, he replied that in the version of the speech he saw there “was some reference to me, which is nice”.

    Not offended – but shitting himself.
    So near to the Lodge that he can almost smell the new soft furnishings that Chloe will order…

  10. Diogenes

    And, yes, she is inspecting bins. Yet, she seems puzzled by the increase in litter in the yard.

    Had a VE in Science last week with the top year 7 class. All were very pious about the environment, cut down waste , ban bags, reduce co2 , all that sort of stuff, . I played it straight, because the teacher I was subbing for is nice & I didn’t have a lot facts to confuse the poor little dears on me. One child said “grownups are making a mess of the environment”

    “Don’t call out or put your hands up because I don’t want to embarrass anyone. Who here gets yelled at by mum and dad for not turning out lights when they leave their room, or leaving the TV or computer or ? How many of of get driven to school when there is a perfectly good bus service? How many use AC when the outside temp is less than 30 ? Who here has dropped at one piece of litter on the ground at recess today? How many have thrown out half eaten food today ? How many walked past rubbish on the ground and did not pick it up and put it in the bin- I did yard duty in the COLA – I know most of you are guilty of the last 3 ”

    It was fun watching little light bulbs go on –

  11. Tom

    Turnbull will just grimace.

    Of course. After all, he’s a good Labor man. He doesn’t want to upset his first-choice party before he was invited to white-ant the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals.

  12. Entropy

    If Turnbull had any brains, all he needs to say is “how fascinating that while I earned my money in business, despite their rhetoric most of the ALP are millionaires despite being public servants most of their life. And isnt it interesting that the media have never expressed any interest in exploring how their wealth came about? And media wonder why they are accused of bias”

    What are the odds of that?

  13. Dr Faustus

    Flake threatens Trump again on judicial nominees

    Flake, a longtime critic of the President, has announced he is not running for re-election.

    “The Mark Sanford loss clarified something if it wasn’t clarified before. You can’t, as a Republican these days, stand in — in — you know, in opposition to some of the president’s policies or — or not condone his behavior and expect to win a Republican primary.

    There might be a message in that for Senator Flake.

  14. egg_

    It has been covered before, but the vast majority of the plastic and rubbish that goes into the oceans comes from Asia and Africa.

    Sh1tholes, again.
    Yay Colesworth!
    Oi Oi Oi!

  15. egg_

    “how fascinating that while I earned my money in business, despite their rhetoric most of the ALP are millionaires despite being public servants most of their life. And isnt it interesting that the media have never expressed any interest in exploring how their wealth came about? And media wonder why they are accused of bias”

    Hence the meeja’s turning on Campion, one of their own dipping into the trough?

  16. min

    Recently when I was in Europe I watched a programme that was looking at the problem of plastic particulates that were being found in sea life. They could identify where the plastic originated and claimed plastic from the British Isles was ending up in South Africa.
    So that whale swallowing plastic from bottles probably on the mark. To cap this off I use my own bags but used to organise shopping to get a couple of grey bags as well . Now I have to buy garbage bags. Yesterday however after a lunch with friends the amount of plastic trays that went out in the rubbish needed a bag .
    BTW no free bags in Italy and that has been the case for years .

  17. Hey, it is crowded at the trough. No room for more snouts.
    The “fat ones” aren’t moving.

  18. EvilElvis

    “how fascinating that while I earned my money in business, despite their rhetoric most of the ALP are millionaires despite being public servants most of their life. And isnt it interesting that the media have never expressed any interest in exploring how their wealth came about? And media wonder why they are accused of bias”

    I’d almost vote for him if he did that.

    Almost…

  19. Mater

    All were very pious about the environment, cut down waste , ban bags, reduce co2 , all that sort of stuff

    Diogenes,
    They can’t help it by the time they get to Year 7.

    From my kids reports, that I receive several days ago. This is the entire comment on STEM.

    Grade 3:

    During Term One children learnt that clean water is essential for life and we need to save water for the future. They planned and created a model for saving water. XXXXXXXXXXXXX visited and gave a talk to the students on saving water. During Term Two they learnt about the importance of environments, including natural vegetation, to animals and people. They used scaled instruments to measure and compare lengths, masses, capacities and temperatures. They investigated creatin an aboriginal garden using native plants where they planned, designed and created a model of their garden.

    Grade 6:

    During the first semester, XXXXXXXXX identified sustainability initiatives already being used at XXXXXX Primary School, measured the amount of waste we create and reflected on this data. He created a visual or electronic presentation about composting. XXXXXX built on his understanding of the design process by completing a ‘Boat Challenge’ design brief. In this project, he needed to formalise his steps and thinking during each phase of the design process by recording these in an electronic presentation.

  20. Mass. It’s all about the mass.

    Colesworth checkout bags weighed next to nothing. Inert (except degrades under UV) polypropylene.
    They have thrown out the best solution.

  21. Up The Workers!

    Save the planet.

    Keep plastic – ban greenies!

    Plastic bags, properly applied, can be very useful in weaning greenies, leftys, mung-beaners, sandalistas and Centrelinkers off exhaling the lethal Gaia-killing poison gas called carbon dioxide.

  22. areff

    Mater: those kids would be better occupied learning their multiplication tables.

  23. Roger

    “grownups are making a mess of the environment”

  24. Roger

    “grownups are making a mess of the environment”

    How many of these pious children would be prepared to give up their mobile phones?

    The manufacture and charging of each phone is responsible for 16-22kg of carbon emissions.

  25. calli

    Nothing changes. It’s always “the grownup’s” fault.

    Exhibit A – Boomer rage. (Usually emanating from slightly younger “grownups”)

    Chuckle.

  26. Mater: those kids would be better occupied learning their multiplication tables.

    “A quantitative argument requires metrics.”

    I note leftist arguments are not based on numbers. Just lots of hand waving or imagined statistics. There is usually one person in the party room who counts the votes, one speaker who counts the votes (because no one else can).

    Numerical literacy is a threat to the left.

  27. egg_

    min
    #2746425, posted on June 25, 2018 at 8:31 am

    Bali and other places are being covered with plastic rubbish washed up from greater Indonesia, and the Pacific’s ‘garbage islands’ are likely sourced from the greater Asia Pacific, as yours truly posted long before the current Ecotastrophe of the month.

  28. Roger

    Colesworth checkout bags weighed next to nothing. Inert (except degrades under UV) polypropylene.
    They have thrown out the best solution.

    The 15c bags have to be used 104 times to offset the carbon footprint of their manufacture, the cotton and jute bags 131 times.

    And at the end of their life they’ll be thrown away rather than be recycled as rubbish bags. Add to that the environmental cost of the manufacture of the garbage bags people will now have to buy.

    Figures from NSW EPA.

  29. Fat Tony

    Roger
    #2746441, posted on June 25, 2018 at 8:45 am

    The 15c bags have to be used 104 times to offset the carbon footprint of their manufacture, the cotton and jute bags 131 times.

    If this is actually the carbon dioxide footprint, Roger, you should actually say that, rather than repeating the greenfilths’ lie.

  30. egg_

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/23/world/plastic-great-pacific-garbage-patch-intl/index.html

    Hardesty was part of an earlier study published in Marine Policy in October that also found that discarded fishing gear make up a significant amount of global marine plastic pollution. It’s estimated 640,000 tons of fishing gear is lost to the marine environment each year.

  31. Mater

    Mater: those kids would be better occupied learning their multiplication tables.

    Yep, but apparently that’s ‘brainwashing’! 😉

  32. Roger

    discarded fishing gear make up a significant amount of global marine plastic pollution.

    I examined the waste on the seaward side of Long Island in the Whitsundays a while back. Yes, quite a bit of fishing gear or items that could have been discarded from boats. Most of the containers didn’t appear to be of local origin either; I suppose, given the South Pacific gyre, that they were of South American origin.

  33. Old School Conservative

    How lazy! The teachers simply repeat the syllabus in the end of term report, instead of explaining how the individual student went.

  34. calli

    The canal beside the Nile in Cairo is almost solid with plastic waste. The Yangtse is awash with floating debris, as is the King’s River. The roadsides in Italy are covered with discarded crap. Ditto Vietnam and Cambodia.

    The cleanest places I’ve seen are home sweet home and NZ, followed by Israel. Germany was okay, too, but that was 10 years ago. I haven’t been to Singapore yet, but I expect it’s neat as a pin.

    The amount of plastic and other packaging has always troubled me because of the waste issues, but we are being shamed by charlatans.

  35. Percy Popinjay

    Why no one reads Time anymore – a perfect example of Fake News.

    Jennifer Oriel has the back story in a piece in today’s Oz.

  36. EvilElvis


    Mater
    #2746430, posted on June 25, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Yep. Can confirm same for my year 4, 6 and 12 boys. I counter most of the rubbish they bring home much to my partner’s disgust. She’s no lefty, but, she’s a silent roll with it type. She may not be around long with that attitude. Haha…

  37. egg_

    discarded fishing gear make up a significant amount of global marine plastic pollution.

    Yet,

    Plastic pollution: Women on mission to ‘clean up oceans’ – BBC

    Virtue signalling starts at home.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One child said “grownups are making a mess of the environment”

    I was told that by one little SJW in my local supermarket a couple of years ago. “Your generation made a mess of the environment, and it’s up to ours to clean it up.” Knowing that her parents had sent her to Bali for a holiday to “recover from the stress of final school exams”, I commented that some of us had never been overseas on holiday until our early forties……

  39. Helen

    It costs north of $360 to slaughter a beast in Australia, 240+ in USA and $30 in Indo.

    For reasons why so expensive in Australia, I give you Muginberri. There used to be a good paper on it at HR Nichols, but I cant find it. Basically, the seasonal workers were happy with their agreement and came each season to work at the Ab. The Union thought they sould be paid $400-$500 more per week. So they struck. Most of the workers crossed the line and kept working, the picket was mainly made up of unemployed Katherine meatworkers as the Katherine meatworks did not open that year.

    Within a few years there was no abbatoir in NT. There is one now, but it is huge and badly managed and is closing down at the end of July.

    Then there is the animal. Farmers here on the cat but few city people will know that certain carcasses meet certain market requirements through grading on the kill chain. Most cattle LEx is a small carcass, up to 350 kg in weight live, which roughly translates to a 175 kg carcass. Prices for on the hoof LEx are still about $2.70, = $945 per animal. To slaughter the unfattened animal in Australia would see about a $300.00 return. This is becasue the animal just does not have the carcass size to meet basic grading, and would have to go to the grinding beef market and is too light.

    To meet the grinding beef market, assuming there was an abbatoir to kill them that did not entail a 3,000+ km journey by truck the animals would have to be held on farm and grown out for a further 2 years to 400 kg minimum. Essentially 2 years without income, and then sell the animal for less than would have been obtained, per head, 2 years before. You also have the added costs of basic animal care per head for that 2 years, water, supplement, vaccinations and the mustering and processing to give those vaccinations, all up about $50.00 per year per animal. And even then, becasue most of North Australia suffers a protein drought each year, the animals will not end up on the Wollworths plastic meat trays. They will be hamburger, because they will not meet the grading requirements of Meat Standards Australia.

    There is the extra pressure on pasture and waters while holding those animals for another 2 years, you can’t simply stop breeding and new stock are still coming on, as well as trying to find room for the old stock that need to be grown out. There is weed control. Something has to give in the budget when you have no cashflow, and weeds will most certainly be one of them. Employees will be another. Infrastructure will be another and equipment – all will have to be run down.

    Overall, it would lead to an animal welfare catastrophe like you could not imagine. If you have no money to buy vital supplement – $30.00 per head per year, then cows will just die from starvation in the paddock. The pasture has no protien in it during the dry deason, that is generally supplied through supplement – it just helps keep the animal going, it doesnt fatten them.

    Having said all that, the only way through that I can see in the event of losing the Live Ex Market is through pasture development, either clearing and going the full monty with full improved pasture plus oversowing native pasture with improved pasture. Which is what we are doing, it is a 10 year project at the end of which we hope to have much more market flexibilty, with an animal that is suited for both markets, Live Ex and domestic graded.

    There is still much uncertainty as a result of Julia Gillards kneejerk actions, the whole job which was chugging along quite well, is now up and down and jittery, leaving us with no option but to explore (at great cost even with a willing banker) other options. We are too old to go and do somthing else, somehow we have to make this work.

    So to shout from the rooftops, shut it down, is both uninformed and belittling to the people who earn a living from it, the truck drivers, the towns which rely on it – Katherine services like tyre shops dropped 40% in turnover thanks to Julia, the hay makers, the service industry that supports it, all jobs lost.

    It would be much better if those people could come up with some solutions, like how do you get a permit to clear for improved pasture when you have a green government? You have to go right to the bottom of the pyramid and work your way up, not just cut the top off and think all will be well.

    On a final note, there are highly skilled and hard working people who are in our overseas markets, training people on animal welfare handling of livestock. Real progress is being made, right across Turkey, Egypt, all those northern countries, as well as SE Asia. This impacts not only Australian cattle and sheep that go there, but also local livestock. I am proud of what they are doing and sad to think that training and awareness would be turned off as well.

    To my mind the solution is not to cut it off, but to work to make it better. This is all I will post on this as we are into our season and I have no time to linger.

  40. egg_

    Reality bites virtue:

    The expedition has not all been plain sailing.

    We’ve hit some very rough weather,” she said.

    “It put a lot of the crew out of action and, at one stage, only three out of the crew of 14 were able to get up and start walking.”

  41. calli

    The plastic drink bottle problem is caused by undrinkable tap water in third world countries. Provide decent drinking water and the plastic problem evaporates. Most of Israel’s water is recycled and is fine for drinking (as Bibi trolled so well last week). It just takes the will to do it.

  42. egg_

    Virtue signalling tourism:

    The 30-day sail around the British Isles has been organised by eXXpedition which specialises in all-women trips with a focus on highlighting the impact of single-use plastic on the planet’s oceans, eco-systems and human health.

    Lucy Gilliam, co-founder of eXXpedition, said the sail was about spreading awareness of plastic and toxic pollution and the potential impact on human health.

  43. struth

    They investigated creatin an aboriginal garden

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    The investigation would have been fun to watch.

    All this is straight from the orders of the U.N.
    This is the subject matter ordered to be taught.
    Enviro mental ism in western schools is an absolute priority for agenda 30.

  44. calli

    Thanks, Helen. It’s refreshing to see a well-informed post straight from the coalface.

  45. calli

    They investigated creatin an aboriginal garden

    Designed one of those in my final year of Hort. Made a note that the aesthetic was borrowed from art rather than any examples of cultivation because there were none. Got 100% for the entire assignment.

    Wouldn’t get away with that these days.

  46. Fat Tony

    Helen

    thanks for a very informative post

  47. Tom

    Helen
    #2746452, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:11 am

    Great post, Helen. Beautifully illustrates that weepy big-city SJWs don’t give a fuck about the animals in the live export trade. Being good little communists, they just want to shut down another industry on our way back to the 19th century.

  48. Baldrick

    Lucy Gilliam, co-founder of eXXpedition, said the sail was about spreading awareness of plastic and toxic pollution and the potential impact on human health.

    They’re not a very inclusive lot.

  49. egg_

    They’re not a very inclusive lot.

    Old lezzos crack onto fit young wymminses?

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It costs north of $360 to slaughter a beast in Australia, 240+ in USA and $30 in Indo.

    Thank you, Helen. That fact needs to be widely publicized to dispel the pleasant little fantasy that, if we smash the live trade, those animals will be slaughtered in Australia, creating Australian jobs.

  51. struth

    They’re not a very inclusive lot.

    Couldn’t even crack a full smile for the camera, the dullard bitches.
    Where’s the brown people?

  52. Fat Tony

    calli
    #2746454, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:12 am
    The plastic drink bottle problem is caused by undrinkable tap water in third world countries. Provide decent drinking water and the plastic problem evaporates. Most of Israel’s water is recycled and is fine for drinking (as Bibi trolled so well last week). It just takes the will to do it.

    With most of the Reverse Osmosis filters in Australia coming from China or India, it would take more than “will” for me to willingly drink recycled waste water.

    You do realise that what is in store for Australia is “direct potable recycling” – aka “toilet to tap”.
    This means all domestic, hospital, industrial & whatever waste water goes to a plant where they claim to “purify” it and then it is pumped straight to peoples’ taps for consumption.

    And being run by private companies (eg Veolia), processing costs will be minimised to maximise profit.

  53. 132andBush

    Rubbish, Baldrick!

    I see at least 3 aboriginals in that photo.

  54. Delta A

    So to shout from the rooftops, shut it down, is both uninformed and belittling to the people who earn a living from it, the truck drivers, the towns which rely on it

    Armchair SJWs who troll the Cat, read Helen’s excellent, informed post and shut up until you have that depth of experience to support your flippant comments.

  55. struth

    Good onya Helen.
    Thanks for the post.
    Hopefully the influence of throbbers like Nemkat (greenie commo Nazis) don’t get to destroy this as well.

  56. 132andBush

    Yes.
    Great post, Helen

  57. struth

    Couldn’t even crack a full smile for the camera, the dullard bitches.
    Where’s the brown people?

    But they’d probably smile for a crack.

    The #lesbiloveboat.

  58. Baldrick

    I see at least 3 aboriginals in that photo.

    Ah ha! As I suspected. The circle around the right eye was some sort of secret wymmymses business.

  59. Diogenes

    How lazy! The teachers simply repeat the syllabus in the end of term report, instead of explaining how the individual student went.

    OSC,
    this is the pap we have to write, how they behaved etc are in tick boxes. We are NOT allowed to write anything subjective or personal in a report comment. I would dearly love to write the report that I , and most parents want , ie the kind of stuff we got as kids (eg “pleasure to teach” or “easily distracted” ) but if I did, I would lay myself open to an official complaint and sanction.

    Everytime I ask why we bother with comments seeing that they can say nothing parents want to hear, I am told education act 1988, long since superseded- the new act just says we have to report to parents twice a year., and we can replace the sort of stuff that was given as as an example with a few more tick boxes

  60. egg_

    One of the core aims of eXXpedition is to engage women in discussions on the issue of plastics, the health effects of chemicals (such as endocrine disruptors and carcinogens in our immediate and wider environment), and inspire individuals to make personal lifestyle and consumer choices that will reduce long-term health impacts and impacts on our environment.

    Indoctrination.

  61. lotocoti

    In other news nautical, I see the good ship Aquarius is looking for more customers.

  62. egg_

    North Pacific 2018
    24 WOMEN. 3,000 NAUTICAL MILES. 1 MISSION.

    What could go wrong?

  63. Baldrick

    One of the core aims of eXXpedition is to engage women in discussions on the issue of plastics …

    Must be a riveting conversation around the mess table at night, sipping rum and swapping war stories.

  64. Diogenes

    You do realise that what is in store for Australia is “direct potable recycling” – aka “toilet to tap”.
    This means all domestic, hospital, industrial & whatever waste water goes to a plant where they claim to “purify” it and then it is pumped straight to peoples’ taps for consumption.

    I remember when Poowoomba were planning to top up their dam with recycled and the massive outcry that ensued. What the protesters forgot, was the next down upstream was doing just that, IIRC the outlet from the treatment works discharged into a creek that flowed into the dam a mere 2km downstream

  65. Stimpson J. Cat

    You do realise that what is in store for Australia is “direct potable recycling” – aka “toilet to tap”.
    This means all domestic, hospital, industrial & whatever waste water goes to a plant where they claim to “purify” it and then it is pumped straight to peoples’ taps for consumption.

    Australian’s literally on the p$ss.
    What a time to be alive.

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE TIMES
    France honours Mike Sadler MC, MM — the last SAS original

    Ben Macintyre
    The Times
    12:00AM June 25, 2018

    The last survivor of the original SAS has been awarded France’s highest honour for bravery, 74 years after he parachuted into Nazi-occupied France in one of the most dangerous missions of World War II.

    Mike Sadler, 98, was made a Chevalier of the Legion d’honneur at a private ceremony in London attended by representatives of the French embassy and former members of the SAS.

    The French defence attache, Antoine de Loustal, paid tribute to Mr Sadler’s “dedication and determination” during the liberation of France, “for which you were prepared to risk your life”.

    In 1941, Mr Sadler joined the Long Range Desert Group, the ­reconnaissance unit operating in the North Africa desert, and was then seconded to the fledgling Special Air Service, founded by David Stirling to launch lightning night-time raids against Axis airfields in Libya.

    He swiftly became the unit’s best navigator, with an uncanny knack for guiding raiding parties across vast expanses of almost featureless desert.

    Now almost blind, Mr Sadler joked on Friday: “I’m afraid I can’t give a speech because I can’t read any notes as I can no longer see.’’

    From the Oz.

  67. Mater

    They’re not a very inclusive lot.

    It looks like the cast and set of a James Bond movie.
    Octopussy anyone?
    God help the Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer who has to rescue them. He’ll be eaten alive.

  68. stackja

    Regarding meatworks, Homebush NSW now housing estates and Riverstone in NSW now small brewery.

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Regarding meatworks, Homebush NSW now housing estates and Riverstone in NSW now small brewery.

    Three, in the Western Australian Wheatbelt, closed down in the mid Eighties and never reopened. Those that remain open mainly employ labor on 457 visa’s.

  70. Fat Tony

    Diogenes
    #2746479, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:42 am

    What the protesters forgot, was the next down upstream was doing just that, IIRC the outlet from the treatment works discharged into a creek that flowed into the dam a mere 2km downstream

    What dam would that be?

    Pity you weren’t here for the “debate” – pretty well everything the local council and the Labour State Government said were lies.

    Toowoomba was the test case – it was to be used in Toowoomba for 3 years, then Qld Health would say what a resounding success it was and then it was planned to be forced on everyone is the state, with direct potable being the end game. It was all about money – Big Water really wanted to take over the supply of water to all Australians. We have enough rain in this country, we just need to build a few more dams.

    We had a “referendum” on the issue – the Yes case was funded by the local council to the order of $half million or so, and the “No” case received no funding at all. The No case received 62% of the vote.

  71. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2746481, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:49 am

    Long Range Desert Group
    From Wikipedia

    The unit, initially known as the No.1 Long Range Patrol Unit (LRP), was founded on 3 July 1940.[5] Bagnold wanted men who were energetic, innovative, self-reliant, physically and mentally tough, and able to live and fight in seclusion in the Libyan desert.[7] Bagnold felt that New Zealand farmers would possess these attributes and was given permission to approach the 2nd New Zealand Division for volunteers; over half the division volunteered.[7] Two officers and 85 other ranks including 18 administrative and technical personnel were eventually selected, coming mostly from the Divisional Cavalry Regiment and the 27th Machine-Gun Battalion.[8] Once the men had been recruited, they started training in desert survival techniques and desert driving and navigation, with additional training in radio communications and demolitions.[5]

    The LRP could initially form only three units, known as patrols,[nb 1] but a doubling of strength allowed the addition of a new Heavy Section.[10] In November 1940, the name of the LRP was changed to the “Long Range Desert Group” (LRDG),[11] and the New Zealanders were joined by volunteers from British and Southern Rhodesian regiments.[12] The British volunteers, who came mostly from the Brigade of Guards and Yeomanry regiments, were incorporated into their own patrols.[7] The original patrol unit consisted of two officers and 28 other ranks, equipped with a Canadian Military Pattern (CMP) Ford 15 Imperial hundredweight (cwt) truck and 10 Chevrolet 30 cwt trucks. In March 1941 new types of trucks were issued and the patrol units were split into half-patrols of one officer and 15–18 men in five or six vehicles.[10] Each patrol incorporated a medical orderly, a navigator, a radio operator and a vehicle mechanic, each of whom manned a truck equipped for their role.[13]

  72. stackja

    Fat Tony
    #2746487, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:55 am

    Red Chinese are buying up water rights. What could possibly go wrong?

  73. Snoopy

    During Term One children learnt that clean water is essential for life and we need to save water for the future.

    The water cycle must be covered next year.

  74. Boambee John

    One of the core aims of eXXpedition is to engage women in discussions on the issue of plastics …

    Vibrators? Dildos?

  75. Old School Conservative

    Helen – many thanks for a fact-filled post, much of which was new to me. You are the first commentator I have read who has explained the flow-on effects to supplier industries.

    Diogenes – I see. What a horrible situation to be in. So not only does “every child win a prize”, but also “no child will be adversely commented on”. Wow.

  76. stackja

    Mater
    #2746482, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:51 am
    They’re not a very inclusive lot.

    It looks like the cast and set of a James Bond movie.
    Octopussy anyone?
    God help the Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer who has to rescue them. He’ll be eaten alive.

    Meanwhile:

    Olivia Lesbian Travel: Lesbian Cruises, Lesbian Resorts and Lesbian …
    https://www.olivia.com/
    Olivia Lesbian Travel: Cruises, Resorts and Vacations for Lesbians! … The Olivia Experience is about women having fun together, making friends – and maybe …

  77. C.L.

    Andrew Denton is sobbing about his father again, using him as justification for legalised killing.

    Dying woman faces dire choices with no change to laws.

    As Queensland lags behind in the euthanasia debate, a dying mother of two says her only option right now is “suicide or Switzerland” as she battles final-stage breast cancer.

    Tanya Battel, 54, from Carina on Brisbane’s eastside, is part of the growing Dying with Dignity group that is trying to get an end-of-life bill before State Parliament, with Queensland the last in the country to debate the issue.

    Suicide or Switzerland?
    Which means suicide or homicide.

    Ms Warland is too sick to attend today’s forum, but her story will be heard through a video message.

    Go Gentle Australia leader Andrew Denton, whose campaign slogan is “stop good people dying bad deaths” will also deliver a message via video link.

  78. Fat Tony

    stackja
    #2746489, posted on June 25, 2018 at 10:09 am
    Fat Tony
    #2746487, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:55 am

    Red Chinese are buying up water rights. What could possibly go wrong?

    From their point of view? Nothing at all.

  79. EvilElvis

    The water cycle must be covered next year.

    Virtuousness 101 always comes first.

  80. Old School Conservative

    This is why Breitbart has such a good reputation for breaking important stories.

    A Kentucky building housing thousands of barrels of aged bourbon collapsed on Friday, sending 9,000 barrels of the liquor crashing.

  81. Snoopy

    One of the core aims of eXXpedition is to engage women in discussions on the issue of plastics …

    Vibrators? Dildos?

    Government mandated Steely Dans are the answer.

    /numbnuts

  82. Stimpson J. Cat

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    [email protected] is now whimpering to all that he did the famous “hair show” with me (where he seriously messed up my hair), & that he would have now done it differently because it is said to have “humanized” me-he is taking heat. He called & said “monster ratings.” Be a man Jimmy!
    8:01 AM · Jun 25, 2018

    Ha ha ha ja ja ha ja ja ja!

  83. Mater

    …and we need to save water for the future.

    It’s a shame they don’t teach the kids to value the same ideal when it comes time for them to assess a political party’s economic competence.

  84. thefrolickingmole

    In this piece its almost a paragon of vacuousness.

    All the justifying and analysing comes down to only one thing in the end.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/23/going-it-alone-why-chose-single-motherhood

    I want someone tall and basically symmetrical. A choice is superficial only if it is made at the expense of deeper considerations and so, although I reject sperm donors on criteria that would outrage me if applied in real life by men to women, I tell myself I’m not doing anything wrong.
    ….
    This is not gene selection; it is the selection of the story of how my child came to be, and, through a combination of vital statistics, familiarity of background, a subtle implication that he is a Democrat and his use of the word “tremendous”, which signals to me a certain wryness and enthusiasm, I make my choice. In other words, on nothing substantive. What matters is it’s my choice and I make it.
    ….
    Instead, after I mumble, “Need to order some sperm”, she puts me through to the lab, where a technician will check to see if what I want is available.

    I give him the donor number. There is a clacking of keys, followed by a short pause. Then, with the smoothness of a sommelier fielding a wine order at dinner, he says, “An excellent choice.”

    Im fairly sure this is an awful person.

  85. H B Bear

    Im fairly sure this is an awful person.

    Exactly. Knowingly depriving a child of their father for her own selfishness.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A Kentucky building housing thousands of barrels of aged bourbon collapsed on Friday, sending 9,000 barrels of the liquor crashing.

    Bourbon whisky is only fit for treating skin infections in human beings, and blowfly strike in sheep. It should never be regarded as fit for human consumption.

  87. Snoopy

    It’s a shame they don’t teach the kids to value the same ideal when it comes time for them to assess a political party’s economic competence.

    Any shortfall in money can easily be remedied by taxing the rich more. But you can’t squeeze water from the rich (unless they’re evil irrigators).

  88. Delta A

    Im fairly sure this is an awful person.

    Her child will probably have many siblings whom she/he will never know. She/he might even end up married to one.

  89. OldOzzie

    Incoherent rambler
    #2746427, posted on June 25, 2018 at 8:32 am

    Hey, it is crowded at the trough. No room for more snouts.
    The “fat ones” aren’t moving.

    Pay soars for Turnbull, Shorten staff – Adam Creighton

    The total pay of taxpayer-funded political staff in Malcolm Turnbull’s and Bill Shorten’s offices has surged 32 per cent over two years to $21 million, almost seven times private-sector wage growth over the same period.

    Average pay, including 15.4 per cent superannuation and various cash allowances, of the Prime Minister’s 58 ministerial and electorate personnel leapt to $233,000 in the 2017 financial year compared with $177,000 two years earlier — the last year of the Abbott government.

    Private and public sector wages grew 3.8 per cent and 4.8 per cent, respectively, over the same period.

    The total pay for the Opposition Leader’s 39-strong team jumped 34 per cent to $7.5m or $193,000 a person, according to new figures obtained under Freedom of Information laws following a six-month delay.

    The number of personal staff numbers were unchanged, according to documents tabled in parliament, but all staff have since received a 2 per cent pay rise, with a further 2 per cent due next year.

    A spokesman for the Prime Minister’s Office said the salary of the previous chief of staff, Drew Clark, who had “come across” on his previous salary as head of the Department of Communications, had inflated the figures. Departmental secretaries earn between $693,000 and $879,000. The new chief of staff, Peter Woolcott, is paid less.

    “Data provided by the Department of Finance so far for the 2018 financial year show that Prime Minister’s Office costs have come down compared to the previous year,” the spokesman said. These equivalent costs were $5.8m for the six months to last December. He also said changes to the “cabinet office” structure had ­raised pay costs since 2015.

    Labor declined to comment.

    Across Australia, average, full-time earnings rose 2.2 per cent to $84,860 over the year to November.

    Last June the Trudeau government in Canada revealed fewer than 10 of its ministerial staff earned more than $C150,000. ($152,000). Under previous prime minister Stephen Harper the ­majority of advisers were believed to have been paid about $C100,000, with about 12 “director-level” staff receiving $C150,000. British Prime Minister Theresa May’s two highest paid advisers earned £140,000 ($250,000) last year.

    Stripping out lower-paid electorate staff, who earn about $100,000 a year, in Mr Turnbull’s and Mr Shorten’s offices in Edgecliff, Sydney, and Moonee Ponds, Melbourne, the new figures suggest average remuneration in the nation’s two largest political offices, excluding travel allowances, was $245,000 and $207,000 last financial year. The government stopped publishing the Members of Parliament Staff Act 1984 annual report in 2013. It had detailed the aggregate costs of ministerial staff.

    This act, which governs pay and conditions for political advisers, provides for remuneration up to $320,000 a year plus 15.4 per cent super and travel allowance for the 540 ministerial staff across government, opposition and minor parties, across a range of classifications from assistant to senior and principal adviser.

    The Australian understands, for instance, a 21-year old “innovation adviser” in Employment Minister Michaelia Cash’s office earns about $130,000 a year.

    The new pay figures exclude travel expenses. In December The Australian revealed travel costs across the two major political offices had soared 75 per cent to $12,660 a day over the same two-year period to June 2017. Among these expenses, untaxed “travel allowance” — paid regardless of actual costs incurred — rose 149 per cent to about $22,000 a year per staff member.

  90. JC

    It’s not about anyone else, but ronery has been on a three day live cattle bender. Unreal. Pubs could use him the clear bars just by showing and boring everyone out at closing time. The Tourettes is obviously metastasizing.

  91. As Queensland lags behind in the euthanasia debate, a dying mother of two says her only option right now is “suicide or Switzerland” as she battles final-stage breast cancer.

    Why is suicide or homicide her only options? Surely she can accept her condition in its final stages just as Krauthammer recently did.

  92. zyconoclast


    You do realise that what is in store for Australia is “direct potable recycling” – aka “toilet to tap”.
    This means all domestic, hospital, industrial & whatever waste water goes to a plant where they claim to “purify” it and then it is pumped straight to peoples’ taps for consumption.

    And being run by private companies (eg Veolia), processing costs will be minimised to maximise profit.

    California has the solution.
    From waste to taste: Orange County sets Guinness record for recycled water

    The motto for the bottled drinking water reclaimed from wastewater by the Orange County Water and Sanitation districts reads “Tastes like water because it is water.” A slightly more blunt message reads “Get over it.”

    The Orange County Sanitation and Water Districts are working hard to get rid of reclaimed water’s perception problem, “the yuck factor,” as Denis Bilodeau, president of the water district calls it, of converting wastewater to a liquid that exceeds government standards for purity.

    For a decade, the Orange County Groundwater Replenishment System has been pumping reclaimed water into the ground basin. Over the weekend, to celebrate the groundwater system’s 10th anniversary, the districts partnered on a world record-setting endeavor. In 24 hours, more than 100 million gallons of wastewater was converted into potable — or suitable for drinking — water and pumped it into the groundwater basin.

    On Friday afternoon, officials stopped the 24-hour clock and looked at the numbers. A counter read 100,008,000 gallons of drinkable recycled water produced.

    That set the world record as judged by Guinness, which sent an adjudicator from New York to witness the event.

  93. OldOzzie

    Helen
    #2746452, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:11 am

    It costs north of $360 to slaughter a beast in Australia, 240+ in USA and $30 in Indo.

    Helen,

    thank you for that explanation on LEx

    It was excellent

  94. zyconoclast

    Ah ha! As I suspected. The circle around the right eye was some sort of secret wymmymses business.

    Is it the mark left from sitting on each others face?

  95. Bruce of Newcastle

    The motto for the bottled drinking water reclaimed from wastewater by the Orange County Water and Sanitation districts reads “Tastes like water because it is water.” A slightly more blunt message reads “Get over it.”

    Sounds like a great opportunity for a chemically aware resident to get the water analysed for highly carcinogenic N-nitrosodimethyalmine (NDMA).

    Identifying the chemical forming carcinogens in recycled water (Mar 2018)

    The resident could take Orange County weenies to the cleaners (CCl4-free ones of course) for actual and punitive damages. Instant millionaire!

  96. rickw

    In 1941, Mr Sadler joined the Long Range Desert Group, the ­reconnaissance unit operating in the North Africa desert, and was then seconded to the fledgling Special Air Service, founded by David Stirling to launch lightning night-time raids against Axis airfields in Libya.

    If I remember correctly the LRDG did a lot of damage to the Kraut Air Force on the ground.

  97. rickw

    North Pacific 2018
    24 WOMEN. 3,000 NAUTICAL MILES. 1 MISSION.

    What could go wrong?

    Lord of the flies on a boat.

  98. zyconoclast

    The Australian understands, for instance, a 21-year old “innovation adviser” in Employment Minister Michaelia Cash’s office earns about $130,000 a year.

    Wyatt Roy making a comeback?

  99. stackja

    thefrolickingmole
    #2746503, posted on June 25, 2018 at 10:31 am

    First tried dog, then cat, then fish, now baby? How long before tires of baby?

  100. zyconoclast

    Identifying the chemical forming carcinogens in recycled water (Mar 2018)

    Most recycled wastewater that will be used as drinking water through a process known as potable reuse, first enters the ground before it goes to a drinking water plant. The soil acts as a filter, removing chemicals and degrading harmful compounds like NDMA. But the high cost of pumping water into and out of the ground has led to an increased interest in direct potable reuse, where recycled wastewater goes directly to a drinking water plant.

    “NDMA is one of the major obstacles to direct potable reuse because it is really difficult to get rid of thorough traditional treatment processes,” McCurry said. It is instead easier and more affordable to lower NDMA concentrations by eliminating the molecules responsible for its formation.

  101. From CL’s link:

    Everald Compton, an elder of the Uniting Church, is also Dying for Dignity’s campaign leader.

    Despite his religious convictions, Mr Compton has always been in favour of voluntary-assisted dying.

    “Some Christians believe that God is the only one who can decide if a person lives or dies and I have always disputed that,” he said.

    “I believe a Christian is a person who is not afraid of death and when the time comes, when death is the inevitable, we should not be doing all we can to fight it.

    We should be making sure it is the happiest day of our life because it is part of life and we may as well go out happy with everyone smiling.”

    Firstly, no one is arguing that we should be pursuing medical interventions even in circumstances where they are unlikely to be effective, we are arguing that doctors should not positively harm a patient by administering a lethal injection. Secondly, there is no reason why our death should be the happiest day of our life, the suggestion is positively absurd. There is nothing good about death, it is the cessation of bodily existence. Lastly, yes, death is a ‘part’ of life, as is suffering and dependency when seriously ill.

  102. hzhousewife

    Chatted this morning to a lady I know who works for an employment agency. Only vacancies available around here are in Aged Care, she shoves everyone possible off to do the relevant TAFE certificates. No retail jobs, of course.

  103. Des Deskperson

    “Go Gentle Australia leader Andrew Denton, whose campaign slogan is “stop good people dying bad deaths” will also deliver a message via video link.”

    What a stupid slogan! “stop good people dying bad deaths” presumably means that it is OK for bad people to0 die bad deaths. One could infer from this that Denton favours capital punishment.

    Seriously. is there anywhere a more self-intoxicated, virtue boasting and generally more pleased with themselves person than Denton?

  104. Fat Tony

    zyconoclast
    #2746513, posted on June 25, 2018 at 10:57 am
    In 24 hours, more than 100 million gallons of wastewater was converted into potable — or suitable for drinking — water and pumped it into the groundwater basin.

    If it was so suitable for drinking, why pump it into the groundwater basin? Why not just force people to drink it straight from the tap??

    We used to hear about the “Yuck factor” in Toowoomba too. Most of us objecting were brought up on tank water – you could always taste what the frogs had been up to. The problem is all the waste water is used – this includes the usual toilet wastes, hospital & morgue wastes, whatever industrial wastes get flushed down the drains and all the legal & illegal drugs.

    It may surprise you but the final product is only tested for a very limited number of contaminants.

    But there is very big money involved in recycling water not as nature intended.

    Put it this way, I am a mechanical engineer (RPEQ, NER) who has worked on recycling plants. I will never knowingly consume recycled toilet water.

    Dams are simpler and much cheaper – and have a proven capability.

  105. Mother Lode

    Ah ha! As I suspected. The circle around the right eye was some sort of secret wymmymses business.

    Surely it is that old practical joke where you put ink on the eyepiece of a telescope and invite someone to look through the telescope.

    Either they all fell for the joke (not expecting the same result each time – that induction business surely a relic of patriachial logic) or one fell for it and the rest are expressing solidarity.

  106. Fom the Bill of Rights 1689 –

    ➽Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;
    ➽election of members of Parliament ought to be free;
    ➽the freedom of speech and debates or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament;
    ➽excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted;
    ➽jurors in trials for high treason ought to be freeholders;
    ➽promises of fines and forfeitures before conviction are illegal and void;

    How many of these rights have been lost?

  107. Mother Lode

    I see the Australia Institute has taken out a full page ad in Fauxfacts pleading with senators to vote against the company tax-cuts ‘race to the bottom’.

  108. stackja

    Fat Tony
    #2746528, posted on June 25, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Dams drown Gaia. Better to talk sewage.

  109. Bruce of Newcastle

    If I remember correctly the LRDG did a lot of damage to the Kraut Air Force on the ground.

    Rick – For your island hopping reading: The Phantom Major: The Story of David Stirling and the SAS Regiment

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    “suicide or Switzerland”

    Or Stimpy.

    Make me an offer sweetheart.

    Jesus Christ don’t you have a husband you can ask to do the hard jobs like this?

    Or just do it yourself?

    How hard is it?

    My brethren do it every f$cking day.

    Sane people disgust me sometimes.

  111. Boambee John

    Mother Lode

    I think the Ponds Institute should cast the net wider. Take out ads in all media outlets, run the ads daily for at least six weeks.

    That should achieve the commendable aim of bankrupting the Institute!

  112. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2746533, posted on June 25, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Yes! Must look for my copy!
    And And Virginia Cowles wrote about The Rothschilds: A Family of Fortune.

  113. zyconoclast

    ➽Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;

    I was told it is the as allowed by law bit that means you can only own what they want you to.

    I also love the way they describe Catholics as Papists
    Disarming Protestants, &c.
    By causing severall good Subjects being Protestants to be disarmed at the same time when Papists were both Armed and Imployed contrary to Law.

  114. H B Bear

    I see the Australia Institute has taken out a full page ad in Fauxfacts pleading with senators to vote against the company tax-cuts ‘race to the bottom’.

    Very disappointing to see Australia’s leading independent think tank, Teh Ponds Institute, resorting to paid advertisements in the press. That is what the ALPBC is there for.

  115. egg_

    Lord of the flies on a boat.

    Wreck of the Batavia?

  116. zyconoclast

    Israeli-born Tory donor Ehud Sheleg ‘is to be party’s new treasurer’
    The art collector gave more than £500,000 to the party in 2017.

    Is it ok to say at least he will be good with money?

  117. Des Deskperson

    “Average pay, including 15.4 per cent superannuation and various cash allowances, of the Prime Minister’s 58 ministerial and electorate personnel leapt to $233,000 in the 2017 financial year compared with $177,000 two years earlier — the last year of the Abbott government.”

    Senior people also get car or the cash equivalent, from the MOPS EA:

    ‘23.1 Senior staff with the classifications of Principal Adviser, Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser are entitled to be provided with a private-plated vehicle for private and business use or to receive a private-plated vehicle allowance (PPVA) of:
    (a) $24,108 per annum from the commencement of this Agreement;
    (b) $24,590 per annum from one year after the commencement of this Agreement; and
    (c) $25,082 per annum from two years after the commencement of this Agreement.’

    it is important to remember that Parliamentary staffers are mostly political cronies and proteges of Ministers and members. There is therefore little incentive on the part of the employer – their mates in Parliament – to limit the growth of their salaries and allowances; quite the reverse, in fact.

  118. Stimpson J. Cat

    How many of these rights have been lost?

    Protestants have rights?
    Since when?
    Why am I only hearing about this now?
    Also Papist Dogs is one of the greatest insults ever.
    😁

  119. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is it ok to say at least he will be good with money?

    A Sheleg in charge of Shekels.

    What could go wrong.

  120. company tax-cuts ‘race to the bottom’

    Company tax should be zero.
    It is a multi tax.
    Distribute profits -> tax
    Buy something -> tax.
    Pay employees -> tax.
    In addition, the shareholders of the company get whacked by tax.

    Then there is the evil excise.

  121. zyconoclast

    Also Papist Dogs is one of the greatest insults ever.

    I like Capitalist running dog better

  122. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The infighting has just begun, here in the Wild West. Mark McGowan is blaming Barry Urban and his fake medals for the loss of the Hills by election. Who didn’t do the background checks before pre – selection?

  123. Protestants have rights?

    In the land of oz neither catholics nor protestants have rights.

  124. Company tax should be zero.

    True, Rambler. Like profits (and losses) in a partnership, tax should only be factored in with the final recipient.

    .
    Did I mention I’m wearing shoes today?

  125. Bruce of Newcastle

    Israeli-born Tory donor Ehud Sheleg ‘is to be party’s new treasurer’

    Interesting tension if Sajid Javid becomes PM.

  126. Stimpson J. Cat

    Israeli-born Tory donor Ehud Sheleg ‘is to be party’s new treasurer’

    The real question is when is Bibis wife going to jail?

  127. Turnip

    North Pacific 2018
    24 WOMEN. 3,000 NAUTICAL MILES. 1 MISSION.

    What could go wrong?

    Reality:

    24 WOMEN, 3000 MISSIONS, 1 NAUTICALl MILE

  128. Fat Tony

    incoherent rambler
    #2746549, posted on June 25, 2018 at 11:44 am
    Protestants have rights?

    In the land of oz neither catholics nor protestants have rights.

    No but the followers of the prophet (PBUH) have more than enough rights to make up for the rest of us.

  129. Hydra

    zyconoclast
    #2746513, posted on June 25, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Dams are simpler and much cheaper – and have a proven capability.

    To be fair, Orange County has had only 97mm of rainfall in the past 15 months.

  130. Bruce of Newcastle

    To be fair, Orange County has had only 97mm of rainfall in the past 15 months.

    There’s a whole ocean just to the west.
    They can have Melbourne’s desal plant cheap.
    Sydney’s one too.

  131. Fat Tony

    Hydra
    #2746559, posted on June 25, 2018 at 11:55 am
    zyconoclast
    #2746513, posted on June 25, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Dams are simpler and much cheaper – and have a proven capability.

    To be fair, Orange County has had only 97mm of rainfall in the past 15 months.

    To be fair, doesn’t Califiornia let a lot of water flow through to the sea to conserve some bait fish??
    Can’t use it for drinking or farming – that only encourages humans.

  132. Hydra

    There’s a whole ocean just to the west.
    They can have Melbourne’s desal plant cheap.
    Sydney’s one too.

    Seconded

  133. H B Bear

    Truth in advertising would have a Prado parked outside an inner city primary school while a bunch of tennis mums whinge about their husbands.

  134. Baldrick

    Not a pinch on the Ford girl.

  135. Zyconoclast

    Not a pinch on the Ford girl.

    +100

  136. 132andBush

    24 WOMEN. 3,000 NAUTICAL MILES. 1 MISSION.

    Could well be called “A ship of tools”.

  137. Sydney magistrate to stand trial on sex charges

    So when do we get a Royal Commission into institutional child sex abuse in the judiciary and parliaments?

  138. Mother Lode

    Sydney magistrate to stand trial on sex charges

    I am shocked!

    How could the judiciary turn on one of its own!

  139. Gilas

    Helen
    #2746452, posted on June 25, 2018 at 9:11 am

    Katherine services like tyre shops dropped 40% in turnover thanks to Julia, the hay makers, the service industry that supports it, all jobs lost.

    Thank you Helen.
    Coming late to the thread, and I don’t know whether the information is available but:…

    Is there a way to see whether voting in the seat and/or the voting booth of Katherine directly affected by the Slapper’s stupidity changed in subsequent Federal and State elections?

    This is the real test of action and consequence. Whether the demos responds to adverse political interference…or not.

    Because if it doesn’t (as I suspect happened here).. this Country is beyond salvage.

  140. Dr Faustus

    Malcolm Turnbull says the national energy guarantee will reduce prices as he fights off dissent from his back bench over the government’s signature energy policy.

    “You don’t have to take my word for it, look at what the Energy Security Board says: it will reduce wholesale power prices.

    Hardly an independent endorsement.
    The Energy Security Board is deeply invested in the design of the NEG. If the NEG goes ahead, the Board Members and the bureaucratic organisations they represented will have carriage of its operation – and enjoy an enriching, effectively unsupervised orgy of junkets and career opportunities at the public trough.

  141. Top Ender

    Court documents reveal the alleged incidents occurred in Balmain, Sydney and Bega between 1981 and 1983.

    Must be quite a few people around who are getting nervous.

    Just because something happened in the past, where it was a different country, doesn’t preclude you being hauled into court.

  142. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2746529, posted on June 25, 2018 at 11:20 am
    Ah ha! As I suspected. The circle around the right eye was some sort of secret wymmymses business.

    Surely it is that old practical joke where you put ink on the eyepiece of a telescope and invite someone to look through the telescope.

    Either they all fell for the joke (not expecting the same result each time – that induction business surely a relic of patriachial logic) or one fell for it and the rest are expressing solidarity.

    Pete the Pup
    From Wikipedia,

    The original Pete (sired by “Tudor’s Black Jack”) was an APBT named “Pal, the Wonder Dog”, and had a natural ring almost completely around his right eye; dye was used to finish it off.

    Pete the Pup picture linky

  143. notafan

    The Ship of F0olish Women story reminds me that I was seated next to a group of loud young feminists in a Brunswick caf the other day

    You know the type nose ringed alternate types who like, had to say like every other word.

    They were fantasizing about a women’s only island (no doubt of the tropical kind)

    I do’t think of of them said lets make it happen; I’ll drop out of fine arts’journalism and do plumbing/electrical/carpentry/road building/ or any of the other myriad man jobs I take for granted.

    I just smirked and went back to my book.

  144. Farmer Gez

    The ALP put a flyer in my mail today boasting that they’d stop the live sheep trade.
    Of all that is wrong with Australia, they think that tops the bill.
    Truly stuffed.

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