Monday Forum: June 25, 2018

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  1. Snoopy

    I’ll be at Little Big Horn in a few months.

    Davey Crockett’s grave is a must-see.

  2. JC

    Casting must have taken girth size into account with the choice.

    Russell Crowe to play Roger Ailes in Showtime series on rise of Fox News

  3. Baldrick

    The Burke and Wills Memorial in Majuro is also worth a visit 😉

  4. OldOzzie

    Antibody from violent offenders makes mice aggressive

    One day, in a laboratory in Norway, scientists injected mice with a chemical taken from the blood of criminals — and the mice turned mean.

    As the proteins coursed round their rodent brains, they seemed to inherit the impulses of the murderers, rapists and gang members who provided them.

    They were quicker to start fights when provoked, and took just a quarter of the time to deliberate before leaping on intruders.

    Now scientists think this chemical, an antibody which is involved in the human stress response, may give a clue as to what makes humans aggressive too — although they said it remained a mystery exactly what it does.

    For the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers extracted the antibodies from 16 violent offenders imprisoned for murder or extreme physical or sexual assault.

    The scientists were interested in the antibody which interferes with the production of cortisol, a stress hormone. The “criminal” antibody bound to hormones in a reliably different way to the one taken from the non-criminals. The biggest difference came when it was injected into the mice and an intruder was then put in their cage. “The resident would attack the mouse very fast,” said Serguei Fetissov, from Akershus University Hospital. The implication was that this antibody, which differed between violent and non-violent humans, could be one of the reasons they were violent in the first place.

    “The antibodies may predispose people to aggressive behaviour,” said Professor Fetissov. “But we don’t know why the antibodies differ in these groups.” He stressed that a far bigger sample was needed to make firmer conclusions or to understand the mechanism before anyone considered using this as an intervention to, for instance, “cure” violent offenders.

    It is highly likely that many people in the general population have these antibodies and are not violent at all.

    The Times

  5. Mother Lode

    Australia to spend nearly $7 billion buying unmanned military planes from America

    Well they have been doing their utmost to unman the defence forces.

    And I am not counting the new breed of heroes wiggling their bots and cavorting about on phallus festooned floats in Sydney as men.

    In fact, I would quibble the ‘Sapiens’ bit.

  6. OldOzzie

    Antibody from violent offenders makes mice aggressive

    One day, in a laboratory in Norway, scientists injected mice with a chemical taken from the blood of criminals — and the mice turned mean.

    As the proteins coursed round their rodent brains, they seemed to inherit the impulses of the murderers, r*pists and gang members who provided them.

    They were quicker to start fights when provoked, and took just a quarter of the time to deliberate before leaping on intruders.

    Now scientists think this chemical, an antibody which is involved in the human stress response, may give a clue as to what makes humans aggressive too — although they said it remained a mystery exactly what it does.

    For the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers extracted the antibodies from 16 violent offenders imprisoned for murder or extreme physical or sexual assault.

    The scientists were interested in the antibody which interferes with the production of cortisol, a stress hormone. The “criminal” antibody bound to hormones in a reliably different way to the one taken from the non-criminals. The biggest difference came when it was injected into the mice and an intruder was then put in their cage. “The resident would attack the mouse very fast,” said Serguei Fetissov, from Akershus University Hospital. The implication was that this antibody, which differed between violent and non-violent humans, could be one of the reasons they were violent in the first place.

    “The antibodies may predispose people to aggressive behaviour,” said Professor Fetissov. “But we don’t know why the antibodies differ in these groups.” He stressed that a far bigger sample was needed to make firmer conclusions or to understand the mechanism before anyone considered using this as an intervention to, for instance, “cure” violent offenders.

    It is highly likely that many people in the general population have these antibodies and are not violent at all.

    The Times

  7. Myrddin Seren

    Led by chief commissioner Lucy Turnbull, the commission has spearheaded a 40-year vision to decentralise Sydney into three, interconnected cities – a harbour-side city in the east, a central river city pivoting around Parramatta, and parkland city west of the M7 which would centre on the second airport.

    Bullshit.

    Gladys has previously mentioned they are working on a target population of something like 11 million people.

    Which will probably be an underestimate as the Federal Uniparty will progressively squeeze the immigration accelerator harder to prop up the economy, and the Green-Left-in-Government-and-Business works on depopulating rural and regional Australia and turning the non-Metros in to continent-wide national parks.

    Brace for the ‘consolidated’ urban areas to resemble something out of Blade Runner.

  8. Mother Lode

    Russell Crowe to play Roger Ailes in Showtime series on rise of Fox News

    CGI has closed off his other career opportunities in the Star Wars franchise as the Death Star.

  9. OldOzzie

    Antibody from violent offenders makes mice aggressive

    One day, in a laboratory in Norway, scientists injected mice with a chemical taken from the blood of criminals — and the mice turned mean.

    As the proteins coursed round their rodent brains, they seemed to inherit the impulses of the murderers, r*pists and gang members who provided them.

    They were quicker to start fights when provoked, and took just a quarter of the time to deliberate before leaping on intruders.

    Now scientists think this chemical, an antibody which is involved in the human stress response, may give a clue as to what makes humans aggressive too — although they said it remained a mystery exactly what it does.

    For the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers extracted the antibodies from 16 violent offenders imprisoned for murder or extreme physical or s*xual assault.

    The scientists were interested in the antibody which interferes with the production of cortisol, a stress hormone. The “criminal” antibody bound to hormones in a reliably different way to the one taken from the non-criminals. The biggest difference came when it was injected into the mice and an intruder was then put in their cage. “The resident would attack the mouse very fast,” said Serguei Fetissov, from Akershus University Hospital. The implication was that this antibody, which differed between violent and non-violent humans, could be one of the reasons they were violent in the first place.

    “The antibodies may predispose people to aggressive behaviour,” said Professor Fetissov. “But we don’t know why the antibodies differ in these groups.” He stressed that a far bigger sample was needed to make firmer conclusions or to understand the mechanism before anyone considered using this as an intervention to, for instance, “cure” violent offenders.

    It is highly likely that many people in the general population have these antibodies and are not violent at all.

    The Times

  10. Bruce of Newcastle

    Well here’s something we can do. Email The Australian, either a journo directly or the CE or the letters page and beg them to make Johannes the full-time cartoonist.

    Mr Rusty – I suspect the Oz editor is already working on this. It takes a rare confluence of ability, political awareness, news awareness, confidence, speed and consistency to reach the peak that Bill reached. Especially speed. Johannes is now up to at least two regular cartoons per week which is a very good sign.

  11. H B Bear

    So Dame Edna Waffleworth and Daddy are going to destroy the Lieboral Party and finish Used Carr’s destruction of Sydney? That will be quite a record of achievement.

    Australia’s complete inability to achieve any meaningful regional decentralisation along the East Coast and SE corner of the country is a tribute to the complete failure of all levels of government.

  12. mh

    I see “The Old Man” from Pawn Stars, Richard Harrison, has passed away.

  13. OldOzzie

    Antibody from violent offenders makes mice aggressive

    One day, in a laboratory in Norway, scientists injected mice with a chemical taken from the blood of criminals — and the mice turned mean.

    As the proteins coursed round their rodent brains, they seemed to inherit the impulses of the murderers, r*pists and gang members who provided them.

    They were quicker to start fights when provoked, and took just a quarter of the time to deliberate before leaping on intruders.

    Now scientists think this chemical, an antibody which is involved in the human stress response, may give a clue as to what makes humans aggressive too — although they said it remained a mystery exactly what it does.

    For the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers extracted the antibodies from 16 violent offenders imprisoned for murder or extreme physical or s*xual assault.

    The scientists were interested in the antibody which interferes with the production of cortisol, a stress hormone. The “criminal” antibody bound to hormones in a reliably different way to the one taken from the non-criminals. The biggest difference came when it was injected into the mice and an intruder was then put in their cage. “The resident would attack the mouse very fast,” said Serguei Fetissov, from Akershus University Hospital. The implication was that this antibody, which differed between violent and non-violent humans, could be one of the reasons they were violent in the first place.

    “The antibodies may predispose people to aggressive behaviour,” said Professor Fetissov. “But we don’t know why the antibodies differ in these groups.” He stressed that a far bigger sample was needed to make firmer conclusions or to understand the mechanism before anyone considered using this as an intervention to, for instance, “cure” violent offenders.

    It is highly likely that many people in the general population have these antibodies and are not violent at all.

  14. JC

    Yep, theirABC, the most trusted news source south of the equator, according to Paul b\Barry.
    ABC News online, yesterday:

    Social media is abuzz with photos of bees drinking sugar water from teaspoons after a post on a fan page dedicated to British naturalist Sir David Attenborough drew attention to the dwindling population of bees worldwide. Since 2013, bee populations in some parts of the world have fallen by a third, with phenomena ranging from the spread of the varroa mite to climate change identified for blame. … (the) fan page warned … “If bees were to disappear from the face of the earth, humans would have just four years left to live” … (so) “If you find a tired bee in your home, a simple solution of sugar and water will help ­revive an exhausted bee … (Australian bee monitor) Justine Crawford … (said) she fears it is only a matter of time before the diseases that have ­destroyed bee populations overseas arrive in Australia. … “It’s just a matter of when — not if, but when.”

    The truth:

    Staff writer, Science 2.0, March 19:

    (The US Department of Agriculture) has reported that honeybees are down 4 percent for 2017, which set off another flurry of Beepocalypse claims by corporate journalists who desperately want to believe that modern science is killing us. What gets left out … is that the 4 percent is down from a 22-year high. There is no Beepocalypse … It is just a statistical blip, as has happened … since even casual record-keeping began over a thousand years ago … for over a decade we’ve been bombarded by apocalyptic tales of collapsing bee populations and the world starvation … (while) honeybee populations have been rising globally since people started keeping track in the 1960s. … (and) since 1995 honeybee colonies have been ­increasing on every habitable continent in the world.

    Lord, they’re fucking useless.

    More here:
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cutandpaste/aunty-is-abuzz-with-the-beepocalypse-but-a-little-factchecking-shows-the-end-isnt-nigh/news-story/2eca76c18da2b96c7d72794ba5e6259e

  15. Eyrie

    Triton ocean surveillance drones. Drones are great going up against 3rd world savages. Not so good against a near peer adversary. In such a scenario they would last about… what was the flight time of a SAM?

  16. Myrddin Seren

    The UK Police – in this case the Taffy Service:

    We are deploying Automated Facial Recognition at the Ed Sheeran concert in Cardiff over the four nights.

    One lady has been arrested on a recall to prison.

    If you see the van come and say hello and we will show you how it works.

    First they came for the Ed Sheeran fans, and I LOL’d.

    Then……

    Meanwhile, back in Londonabad.

  17. Confused Old Misfit

    Here’s another one for you readers out there. Maybe a little esoteric but most of you will cope.
    Richard Feynman and the Pleasure Principle
    How a cerebral hedonist became a scientific hero

  18. C.L.

    Yeah, the Beepocalypse is wheeled out every couple of years.

  19. JC

    Pete M

    You should have hung in there with half the position. Quaintarse is making its way to 11 bucks a share over the next few years all things equal.

    I’m sucking some wind with the AMP buy, but we’ll see. I think this will be about a one year trade.

  20. JC

    C.L.
    #2747289, posted on June 26, 2018 at 11:12 am

    Yeah, the Beepocalypse is wheeled out every couple of years.

    CL, Did you notice this?

    (Australian bee monitor) Justine Crawford … (said) she fears it is only a matter of time before the diseases that have ­destroyed bee populations overseas arrive in Australia. … “It’s just a matter of when — not if, but when.”

    What in God’s name is a bee monitor?

  21. JC

    Let me guess, there’s government money in being a bee monitor either as a salary or a grant.

  22. feelthebern

    Did anyone see that SpaceX was awarded a US military contract.
    God bless Musk.
    Just as the Tesla ponzi comes to an end, he jumps on Trumps Space Force.
    The ultimate rent seeker.

  23. C.L.

    LOL.
    She’s probably pulling a hundred grand a year from the gubbermint as a bee monitor.
    I wonder if there’s a union.

  24. JC

    FMD

    A bee monitor.

    What do you do for work, Justine?

    Oh I’m just a regular old bee monitor.

  25. Top Ender

    But do get a guide and, if you see nothing else in the States, visit Gettysburg.

    My guide 15 years ago had never visited a “northern state” and never would, he said.

  26. Some “serial” students doing multiple courses at university have built up enough student loan debt to pay for an apartment, according to federal Education Minister Simon Birmingham…
    The data from Senator Birmingham’s department shows that one person in NSW has HELP debt worth $536,000, ­another in Victoria has $459,000 worth of debt and a Canberra resident owes $445,000…
    There is no limit on borrowing under HECS-HELP loans which the government offers for all bachelor degrees and some masters degrees.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid fucking Liberals.

    Who do they think is running up all the debt? Far left activist losers doing wyminnses and black studies in perpetuity (Bachelors, Masters, Doctorate – rinse and repeat for each “study”). The very same people who go on Q&A every week to bag the ebil debil debil capitalist system that funds their dunderheads. These losers have absolutely no intention of paying back a single cent of OUR MONEY and are reaming the system worse than the Muzzie welfare scams.

    If gobshites like Birmingham we’re in charge during WWII they would be sending the Japs bullets and tanks and complaining about the cost whilst also wondering why we were losing.

    ONE loan for ONE approved (does not include anything ending with “studies”) course, end of story. Everything else is private scholarships.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid fucking Liberals.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    CGI has closed off his other career opportunities in the Star Wars franchise

    Not true.
    Russell Crowe can’t do Star Wars because he isn’t black, female, transsexual or Wookie.
    Although with some work and a lot of that stuff Shane Warne uses…

    Disney’s ‘Star Wars’ Headaches Include Outcry From Its Own Fans (via Drudge)

    After a poor performance by “Solo: A Star Wars Story” — a movie poised to become the first money-losing film in the series — Disney faces criticism over how it’s managing one of Hollywood’s most lucrative franchises. The company is dealing with reports that its next stand-alone “Star Wars” movie may be delayed and an effort by one faction of fans to remake “The Last Jedi,” which came out in December.

    This is from dripping wet lefty Bloomberg, so the writers skate around the actual problem. The nearest they get to is this:

    With such costly projects, having a core group of acolytes — the kind of people who see a movie several times in the theaters — is crucial. Warner Bros.’ DC Comics film franchise, for instance, has struggled to build momentum. Poor reviews and controversial story lines for characters like Superman have hindered the movies.

    Why would you want to see a pansexual Lando Calrissian played by a Trump-hating lefty?

  28. Myrddin Seren

    Another interesting one from Breitbart.

    The eventual Ministry of Religious Affairs under a doubtless atheist, Fabian socialist minister and with Rod Bowers as chief councillor is going to be offering a pretty streamlined menu of services :

    Former Irish President Says Baptizing Babies Creates ‘Infant Conscripts’

    The ever more unhinged former president of Ireland, Mary McAleese, railed against the Catholic Church in an interview with the Irish Times this week, denouncing infant baptism and praising gay rights.

    Echoing professional atheist Richard Dawkins, who has argued that labeling children as possessors of religious beliefs is “always a form of child abuse,” McAleese said that babies baptized in the Catholic Church are “infant conscripts who are held to lifelong obligations of obedience.”

    Early Baptism breaches fundamental human rights, she said, adding that you cannot impose obligations on little children and then “say to them at seven or eight or 14 or 19 ‘here is what you contracted, here is what you signed up to’ because the truth is, they didn’t.”

    Last March, Mrs. McAleese traveled to Rome to speak on International Women’s Day, blasting the Catholic Church for its views on gay marriage and abortion and calling on the Church to eradicate the “toxic virus of misogyny.”

    A Church that is “homophobic and anti-abortion is not the Church of the future,” McAleese told participants in the conference, which was organized by the Catholic protest group Voices of Faith and hosted at the world headquarters of the Jesuit order in Rome.

    #ButofCourse.

  29. JC

    Not true.
    Russell Crowe can’t do Star Wars because he isn’t black, female, transsexual or Wookie.

    You can’t make that assumption by just looking at tubby. How do you know he’s not a woman for instance?

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My guide 15 years ago had never visited a “northern state” and never would, he said.

    I’ve listened to a Southern drawl informing me that “Goddammit, I was sixteen before I found out “damnYankee ” were two separate words.

  31. C.L.

    Hi, honey.
    LOL.
    How was your day?
    I monitored 11 bees.
    You don’t say. How were they?
    I saw one eaten by a gecko.
    Are you OK?
    Not really. I’m having a day off tomorrow.

  32. Eyrie

    Trump’s Space Force brings to mind Greg Bear’s recent “War Dogs” trilogy. Will the soldiers be known as “Skyrines”?
    The first book was OK but the next two bogged down until the very end of the third.

  33. OldOzzie

    Antibody from violent offenders makes mice aggressive

    One day, in a laboratory in Norway, scientists injected mice with a chemical taken from the blood of criminals — and the mice turned mean.

    As the proteins coursed round their rodent brains, they seemed to inherit the impulses of the murderers, r*pists and gang members who provided them.

    They were quicker to start fights when provoked, and took just a quarter of the time to deliberate before leaping on intruders.

    Now scientists think this chemical, an antibody which is involved in the human stress response, may give a clue as to what makes humans aggressive too — although they said it remained a mystery exactly what it does.

    For the study, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers extracted the antibodies from 16 violent offenders imprisoned for murder or extreme physical or s*xual ass*ult.

    The scientists were interested in the antibody which interferes with the production of cortisol, a stress hormone. The “criminal” antibody bound to hormones in a reliably different way to the one taken from the non-criminals. The biggest difference came when it was injected into the mice and an intruder was then put in their cage. “The resident would attack the mouse very fast,” said Serguei Fetissov, from Akershus University Hospital. The implication was that this antibody, which differed between violent and non-violent humans, could be one of the reasons they were violent in the first place.

    “The antibodies may predispose people to aggressive behaviour,” said Professor Fetissov. “But we don’t know why the antibodies differ in these groups.” He stressed that a far bigger sample was needed to make firmer conclusions or to understand the mechanism before anyone considered using this as an intervention to, for instance, “cure” violent offenders.

    It is highly likely that many people in the general population have these antibodies and are not violent at all.

  34. Eyrie

    ZK2A “I’ve listened to a Southern drawl informing me that “Goddammit, I was sixteen before I found out “damnYankee ” were two separate words.
    I knew a lady from Texas once who, when I said something vaguely complimentary about Jack Kennedy came right back with “he was a DamnYankee”. I’m sure it was one word.

  35. C.L.

    Early Baptism breaches fundamental human rights, she said, adding that you cannot impose obligations on little children and then “say to them at seven or eight or 14 or 19 ‘here is what you contracted, here is what you signed up to’ because the truth is, they didn’t.”

    I note at Wiki that McAleese married a dentist and her daughter is also a dentist.

  36. Mr Rusty – I suspect the Oz editor is already working on this.

    How long exactly does it take to say “Kudelka, you’re shit, fuck off. Johannes it’s all yours.”?

    I suspect the only thing the Oz editor is doing is wondering why his paper is nose diving faster than a narcoleptic kamikaze pilot.

  37. H B Bear

    At some point the Commonwealth is going to have to write off billions in HECS debt. Like any uncapped scheme it is just open to abuse. IMO the way to fund universities would be to allocate them each a lump sum of funding to be distributed to students along HECS lines. As students repay their HECS debts it flows back into the pool for that university. Teach a bunch of classes and Mickey Mouse degrees that never hit income thresholds for debt repayments and watch the funding pool disappear faster than the Grauniad trust endowment. The current university funding model is one of the greatest wastes of taxpayer dollars going around.

  38. Mother Lode

    A bee monitor.

    This is beyond Cert IV. I will wager there is a university degree in this, with a who lot of nonsense squeezed in to fill it out and make it look like a real profession: using special software for counting bees, how to record different frequencies of buzzing, counting the number of yellow and black bands on their abdomens, how to avoid soap (the scent confuses bees), how to protest bee farms etc.

    There will also be hi-vis vests, boots, and a hard hat.

    In fact, when you look at it as a whole, you can see bee monitoring funds are spread far too thin!

    The government should invest in our future with bees!

  39. feelthebern

    Trumps Space Force seems like Elon Musk got in the ear of my man Peter Thiel.

  40. C.L.

    There will also be hi-vis vests

    Actually, they wear hi bzzz vests.

  41. There are times when Gallagher is Trump-level value for money:

    Some rock stars are more entertaining for what they say than for what they sing.

  42. Top Ender

    It’s all about the workers and maaaates:

    Shorten’s team rich in assets
    EXCLUSIVE
    BEN PACKHAM JOE KELLY

    Bill Shorten’s asset-rich frontbenchers, who have led attacks on the personal wealth of Malcolm Turnbull, will continue to have access to the benefits of negative gearing on dozens of investment properties under Labor’s plans to axe the lucrative tax break for new investors.

    As the opposition ramps up its class-war attack on “millionaires”, The Australian can reveal many of Labor’s frontbenchers are multimillionaires, courtesy of bulging property portfolios. Parliamentary records show Labor’s 45 frontbenchers own or have an interest in a total of 105 properties, including 57 classified as residences, and up to 48 classified as investments, holiday houses or blocks of land.

    The Opposition Leader has pledged to axe negative gearing, while “grandfathering” arrangements for those already in the market, in a move that would benefit senior members of his leadership team.

    An analysis of parliament’s register of pecuniary interests reveals some Labor MPs also make use of family trusts, control selfmanaged superannuation funds, and declare share portfolios. Labor’s wealthy frontbenchers include deputy leader Tanya Plibersek, who lists four properties in the register of pecuniary interests, owned by her or her spouse, including one in the Slovenian capital of Ljubljana.

    Mr Shorten’s leadership rival, Anthony Albanese, lists four properties in the register with his wife, former NSW Labor deputy premier Carmel Tebbutt, including residences in inner-Sydney Marrickville and Canberra, and two investment properties in Sydney. Legal affairs spokesman Mark Dreyfus has a primary residence in the leafy Melbourne suburb of Malvern — a long way from his seat of Isaacs — and declares investment properties in South Yarra, Camberwell and Airey’s Inlet, owned by him or his wife.

    Labor agriculture spokesman Joel Fitzgibbon has an interest in five properties, including a residence and commercial property in Cessnock, NSW, a block of land, and two properties in Canberra.

    Labor’s biggest property moguls include communications spokeswoman Michelle Rowland, who owns six properties with her husband, including several owned through a family trust; and mental health spokeswoman Deb O’Neill, who lists six properties owned jointly with her husband.

    Labor Medicare spokesman Tony Zappia also lists an interest in six properties.

    Assistant Treasurer Michael Sukkar last night branded the Labor frontbench “typical socialists who enjoy the fruits of capitalism”.

    “Unlike the Labor Party, we don’t begrudge anybody for aspiring to get ahead,” Mr Sukkar said. “But it looks like these Labor property investors are happy to enjoy the benefits for themselves but want to lock the gate behind them, with their massive housing taxes.”

    Labor has pledged to axe negative gearing of property for new entrants in the market, except for those investing in new housing stock. It would also wind back the 50 per cent capital gains discount on the sale assets held for longer than 12 months from 50 to 25 per cent, in a package of changes that would raise an estimated $32 billion from taxpayers over 10 years.

    Opposition Treasury spokesman Chris Bowen said Labor had been careful not to penalise everyday Australians who were already benefiting from negative gearing, or those who wanted to invest in new housing stock. “Labor’s policy is well-targeted and designed to get negative gearing working for the economy and housing supply by maintaining it for new properties only,” Mr Bowen said. “Importantly, any Australian who is currently negative gearing an apartment or house will be able to continue to do so.”

    The Prime Minister told parliament yesterday that Labor’s property tax changes would have a devastating affect on the property market. “It will smash into the value of the largest single asset class,” he said. “The Labor Party is a massive threat to the savings, to the futures and to the prosperity of all Australians.”

    Opposition finance spokesman Jim Chalmers yesterday said Mr Turnbull was a former banker who “always sides with the millionaires and the multinationals over Middle Australia”. Mr Turnbull donates more than the equivalent of his $500,000 salary to charity through the Turnbull Foundation each year, The Sunday Telegraph revealed in 2015.

  43. calli

    What do you do for work, Justine?

    Oh I’m just a regular old bee monitor.

    With ambitions to play Queen Bee around the lesser, non-subsidised prole bees.

  44. EvilElvis

    To bee, or not to bee, for that is the question.

    Alas, poor Trumble, thee hive is but a PS honeyhole…

  45. calli

    Early Baptism breaches fundamental human rights, she said, adding that you cannot impose obligations on little children and then “say to them at seven or eight or 14 or 19 ‘here is what you contracted, here is what you signed up to’ because the truth is, they didn’t.”

    Liar.

    Infant Baptism is a promise by the parents to bring their child up in the faith. It dedicates the child to God until that child is able to make up their own mind. Sometimes other people are brought into the promise in the form of Godparents.

    The child “signs up” for nothing.

    If you’re going to tell lies about Christianity, invent better ones please.

  46. calli

    I can attest to Tanya owning a very nice house in a very wealthy area of Sydney.

    Good luck to her, of course. But she’ll need to go easy on the stone throwing or contract out for some laminated glass.

  47. Bruce of Newcastle

    Americans Evaluate Trump’s Character Across 13 Dimensions – Gallup

    Trumperoo Banzai across the 13th dimension!
    I can see why he wants a space force.
    Lefties can be redshirts.

  48. stackja

    TE – ALP richest hypocrites. Always was. Always will be. MSM cover up.

  49. feelthebern

    Surprise.
    Everyone now concerned again about domestic spying.

    https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/

    Just like immigration under Obama, domestic spying was a non-issue.
    The good thing is, now under Trump, this shit will get sorted.

    Snowden contributed to this, again.
    He’s the greatest American since Jefferson.

  50. Shy Ted

    Ms Turnbull welcomed the move, describing it as a “natural evolution for the commission.”
    Ms Turnbull! MS Turnbull. Doesn’t want to be known to be married? Realising she likes the ladies after all? Give her a clip round the ear, Malcolm. And then have a change of heart.

  51. H B Bear

    Albosleazy would still be living in a State housing commission flat if he thought he could get away with it.

  52. OldOzzie

    Power policy prioritises expensive green goals

    The key lesson of recent wrangling over energy policy is this: if it sounds like a tax and looks like a tax, then it probably is a tax.

    The National Energy Guarantee (NEG) is the government’s energy policy centrepiece.

    It promises to manage the so-called policy “trilemma” of affordability, reliability and emissions reductions in the energy sector. It will do so by mandating both a reliability and emissions reductions guarantee.

    The emissions reduction component is driven by Australia’s commitment to the Paris Climate agreement which requires Australia to reduce its emissions by 26-28 per cent on 2005 levels by 2030.

    However, the only way emissions reductions on the scale mandated by the Paris Agreement can be achieved is through heavy government intervention which favours less carbon intensive forms of energy generation.

    And just like the Gillard government’s full-blown carbon tax, the complex web of regulations and fines which form the basis of the NEG will amount of an effective tax on carbon-intensive forms of energy generation.

    Translation: coal will be taxed and renewables will be subsidised.

    The de facto carbon tax stems from two areas.

    The first is the mere existence of an emissions guarantee, which would force energy retailers to acquire a certain amount of energy which is generated from greener sources. This makes the NEG indistinguishable from the Renewable Energy Target, a Clean Energy Target, an Emissions Intensity Scheme, or a carbon tax. The outcome is policy favouritism of renewables at the expense of coal.

    The second component is an explicit tax.

    A $100 million tax (the government refers to it as a fine) will be placed on energy retailers who do not meet their emissions reductions obligations.

    Yet just a $10 million tax will be placed on those who do not meet their reliability requirements. This means the government is voting 10-to-one in favour of emissions reductions over reliable energy supply.

    The extent of government command and control of Australia’s energy policy would have made even Commissars in the Soviet Union blush.

    The government is imposing a set of make-believe objectives onto the energy market.

    It is then sabotaging the natural operation of the market by imposing a web of regulations and taxes, strongarming energy retailers, running a nationalised electricity generator (Snowy Hydro), handing out billions to the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and Australian Renewable Energy Agency, and allowing the whole show to be directed by unelected bureaucrats.

    That the Department of the Environment and Energy’s website refers to the NEG as a “market-based solution” is surely a joke. But this joke is on us.

    The energy crisis in Australia is the latest sign of a deep sickness in our political system.

    Australia is blessed with a bounty of onshore and offshore gas, 1000 years’ worth of coal, and 30 per cent of the world’s uranium supplies.

    Yet the Canberra political class has taken Australia from having among the lowest energy costs in the world to having among the highest.

    Rather than a bona fide public policy, emissions reductions are best understood as a vanity project of the political elite.

    Human emissions account for around 3 per cent of total carbon dioxide emissions. Australia accounts for 1.5 per cent of that.

    And according to data from the International Energy Agency and the Climate Council of Australia, the Commonwealth Renewable Energy Target — which favours renewables over coal — reduced emissions from fuel combustion exercises by just 1 per cent over a 15-year period.

    You don’t need a calculator to figure out that 1 per cent of 1.5 per cent of 3 per cent is mathematically zero.

    The cost, though, is immense. The working and middle classes of Australia are being bludgeoned with higher electricity prices which is trashing their standing of living. And businesses are avoiding Australia like the plague.

    That is why new private business investment is just 11.7 per cent of GDP, which is lower than the rate which prevailed during the economically hostile Whitlam years. Worse than Whitlam, indeed.

    This is the price we must all pay so the political class can continue with their vanity project. Now that is a true expression of “class privilege”.

    The last time Australians were consulted on energy policy they voted for affordability and reliability over emissions reductions. That is the key reason the Coalition won a thumping majority at the 2013 election and the carbon tax was abolished.

    There is now talk that some on the right flank in the government will cross the floor to vote against the government’s own energy policy.

    Don’t hold your breath. Talk is cheap. But they should.

    Any government that cannot deliver affordable and reliable energy doesn’t deserve to govern any longer.

    That is the lesson of the Gillard years, and they are being repeated again today.

    Daniel Wild is a research fellow at the Institute of Public Affairs

  53. John Constantine

    What came first, the population property Ponzi, to lure our political class into mass property portfolio slumlord ownership, or did the political will to personally profit create the ‘Whatever it takes’ mindset to have Australian house prices always grow in value.

    Is it insider trading to know that there is going to be a house price Ponzi, then to pile into a no lose investment?.

    Is it corruption to lock the country into a looming cultural and economic genocide so politicals can get a few years of excess growth on the capital value of their portfolios?.

    Is it treason to scream and prosecute for “RACISM” anybody that points out the insider trading and corruption and treachery of our political class?.

    When the Ponzi runs out of new lawyers, it will all slump in a puddle of gamblers tears anyway, but Australia will have vast herds of Enraged and Cheated property gamblers that felt that the numbers on their property revaluations were actually real.

    The Political quisling orc class are going to need a fuck more bollards and armed guards and fenced compounds to keep them safe when the dogbox apartment towers fail, and the Auburn Council shifty permits and lowest possible construction cost gamble flip property developments fail.

    Then council rates, stamp duty cannot fall in dollar terms, so tax on capital must go up.

    Docility and compliance for the proles is the new religion of life or death for our politicals, because without Stalinist crown control it will get ugly.

    Comrade mortgageholders.

  54. Anthony

    The Dems and the deep state are imploding sooner, faster and louder than anyone could have hoped for. Trump’s slow-cooking recipe seems to be working well.

  55. Eddystone

    Does Tanya still have Slovenian citizenship, since she apparently has a property there?

  56. mc

    Infant Baptism is a promise by the parents to bring their child up in the faith. It dedicates the child to God until that child is able to make up their own mind. Sometimes other people are brought into the promise in the form of Godparents.

    Sorry Calli, that is very modern thinking. Baptism is God’s gift to us…nothing to do with what parents or babies are able to bring to the deal.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Does Tanya still have Slovenian citizenship, since she apparently has a property there?

    Wasn’t there the question asked if you have to be a Slovenian citizen to own property there?

  58. Gab

    their child up in the faith. It dedicates the child to God until that child is able to make up their own mind. Sometimes other people are brought into the promise in the form of Godparents.

    Correct as usual, Calli.

  59. calli

    What part of what I said contradicts that, mc?

  60. jupes

    Snowden contributed to this, again.
    He’s the greatest American since Jefferson.

    Snowden is a traitor and should be shot.

    Hopefully Trump arranges his extradition when he has his summit with Putin.

  61. C.L.

    Fortune.com:

    A Michigan Marxist Restaurant Closes After Failed Group Decisions and Long Sandwich Waits.

    A Grand Rapids bastion of Marxist politics and vegan burgers is shutting down after five years in business. And some are likening its closure to the fall of communism.

    The Garden Diner and Café—replete with wall murals of Che Guevara in a chef’s apron and raised fists clutching asparagus sprigs—had eschewed tips in favor of paying its workers a living wage and scorned traditional management methods.

    And while its vegan, vegetarian and raw food fare was mostly a hit, Vice‘s Munchies reports, its unpredictable opening hours, slow service and 40-minute waits for a sandwich, strained customer patience.

    Thad Cummings, one of the restaurant’s original investors, told local Michigan site MLive that the Garden Diner and Café, which was called Bartertown Diner until September, had struggled to pay its workers or turn a profit.

    The restaurant’s (now-defunct) Facebook page was flooded with complaints from patrons angry at its slow service. Patrons hungry for a sandwich would find the café shuttered at odd times, thanks to opening hours set by employee group decision.

  62. mc

    This bit Calli:
    Infant Baptism is a promise by the parents to bring their child up in the faith. It dedicates the child to God until that child is able to make up their own mind.

    It is God’s promise to us, not to be diminished by what we think we can do

  63. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Would be great if Trump had Snowden and Assange hanged.

  64. Mother Lode

    Drudge linked to an article in New York Magazine about Obama.

    Here is the headline – see if you can guess the author’s opinion:

    Where Is Barack Obama?
    The most popular American, whose legacy is the primary target of Donald Trump, has, for now, virtually disappeared from public life.

  65. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lord Shagnasty, a noted Scottish skinflint, invited several Members to his rooms for tea and rationed morsels. Also provided were miniature jars of jam and honey. Raising the vial of honey to the light a guest commented: “I see M’Lord keeps a bee.”

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Would be great if Trump had Snowden and Assange hanged.

    Add Chelsea Manning to the list, and my day would be complete

  67. C.L.

    Snowden blew the whistle on illegal domestic spying and exposed James Clapper as a lying enemy of the American people.

    Traitor to what – the same people who spied on Trump?

  68. Mother Lode

    Sorry Calli, that is very modern thinking. Baptism is God’s gift to us…nothing to do with what parents or babies are able to bring to the deal.

    So, if you are not a believer in God, like Dawkins, what precisely is happening at baptism beyond the parents saying that they will bring up the child according to the way they themselves live.

    All the aspect that relate to God’s involvement, if you do not believe in Him, are non-existent.

    I always get the feeling Dawkins wants to punch God and it annoys him that he doesn’t believe He is there to punch.

  69. Any government that cannot deliver affordable and reliable energy doesn’t deserve to govern any longer. – Daniel Wild

    Should read : “Any government that cannot deliver affordable and reliable energy should be immediately dismissed and its members charged with treason”

  70. Dear Mr. Freudburger,

    A modern coal electricity generator in NSW, VIC and QLD can profitably generate electricity at 3c per kwh, in the absence of government intervention. The same plant emits not much more than CO2 and water.

    WTF is your problem?

    yours
    etc

  71. Fisky

    Hahahahahahaha!

    Donald J. Trump

    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump

    More
    Congresswoman Maxine Waters, an extraordinarily low IQ person, has become, together with Nancy Pelosi, the Face of the Democrat Party. She has just called for harm to supporters, of which there are many, of the Make America Great Again movement. Be careful what you wish for Max!

  72. C.L.

    If the Democrats win the mid-terms, Maxine Waters will become the ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee. Think about that. She is legitimately retarded. This is the Democrats now.

  73. Fisky

    Oh dear! John Kwiggan is being very dishonest here about Venezuela!

    * I won’t discuss Venezuela in detail. But despite the rhetoric of the Chavez-Maduro government, it’s no more socialist than lots of other places. There’s no real central planning and nothing like comprehensive nationalization. As Forbes magazine (not a friendly source) points out, Venezuela’s problems are typical of developing countries subject to the “resource curse“.

    Riiiiight! Just look at all those oil-exporting nations with 18,000 percent inflation and mass hunger!

  74. feelthebern

    Would be great if Trump had Snowden and Assange hanged.

    I thought the Cat was a libertarian blog.
    My mistake.
    Manning – should still be in jail.
    Assange – really tough one, was he used, was he complicit ?
    Snowden – agree with what was posted by CL.

    Snowden – potentially could be the greatest American patriot to have ever lived.

  75. Knuckle Dragger

    Well, well, well.

    John McRoberts, former NT Police Commissioner and charmless, thin-skinned pissant was sentenced this morning to three years’ jail with 12 months to serve. He’ll be doing his time in isolation in Alice Springs.

    That’s what happens when you’re sly rooting a travel agent at the centre of a massive fraud investigation, personally veto search warrants and attempt to frustrate and deflect the investigation from start to finish.

    The investigators waited until McRoberts was out of town, re-applied for and got the warrant, and magically the TV cameras were on hand to see the agent handcuffed and thrown in the back of a van. Masterful stuff.

  76. Rae

    I suspect the only thing the Oz editor is doing is wondering why his paper is nose diving faster than a narcoleptic kamikaze pilot.

    He need look no further than Old Ozzie.

  77. chrisl

    Visiting Buenos Aires and there is a general strike on. It is very quiet on the streets. Protesting corruption in government. Highlight of the day was buying a reversible leather jacket. Goat on one side and antelope on the other.

  78. Snoopy

    Excellent steaks available in BA. Don’t miss out.

  79. chrisl

    snoopy Just had a meat samples dinner with wines to match Excellent.

  80. calli

    I was viewing it from the purely human perspective rather than going into the deeper, and obviously more important, spiritual implications. Describing Column “A” – what we see happening, not Column “B” – what is happening in the heavenlies.

    You are right. God needs absolutely nothing from us. But we need to show others that we belong to Him.

    The making promises on behalf of a child is “child abuse” is ridiculous.

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Story, in the “Daily Mail” is that a group of little snowflakes, are objecting to a charity screening of the film “Zulu”, citing inaccuracies in the film and “outdated attitudes.: F.M.S.

  82. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Visiting Buenos Aires and there is a general strike on. It is very quiet on the streets. Protesting corruption in government. Highlight of the day was buying a reversible leather jacket. Goat on one side and antelope on the other.

    As I read today, Argentina is the only country to ever go from being labelled “developed” to “developing”.

  83. Rae

    Does Tanya still have Slovenian citizenship, since she apparently has a property there?

    Tanya and Melania have matching Slovene-a-terres in Majuro, on the Adriatic shoreline.

  84. calli

    Oops. That last was directed to mc.

    We’re clearly on the same page. And any reference to our poverty and God’s riches is always welcome.

  85. areff

    Slovenian property, who gets to buy and own it:

    …depending on what nationality is the buyer who wants to buy a property in Slovenia:

    Members of the EU are allowed to purchase properties under the same conditions as Slovenian citizens.
    Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway were granted the right to purchase properties without restrictions in the European Economic Areas Agreement
    US citizens may purchase without restrictions due to the Treaty on Trade and Navigation
    Switzerland may purchase real estate only if the buyers possess a valid Permit C, or permanent settlement permit.
    EU candidate countries may submit an application to the Ministry of Justice to request permission to purchase property in Slovenia
    Other countries may acquire property in Slovenia only if they have a business registered in Slovenia, obtain Slovenian citizenship through marriage, or obtain property through inheritance, provided the condition of reciprocity is met.

  86. Senile Old Guy

    ABC is now retailing lies at an even greater rate.

    Algeria has abandoned more than 13,000 people in the Sahara Desert over the past 14 months, including pregnant women and children, expelling them without food or water and forcing them to walk, sometimes at gunpoint, under a blistering sun. Some never make it out alive. The expelled migrants can be seen coming over the horizon by the hundreds, appearing at first as specks in the distance under temperatures of up to 48 degrees Celsius.

    They are not “expelled migrants”, they are illegal immigrants. Even the ABC admits this:

    The claim: Scott Morrison says people illegally enter Australia when they come without a valid visa and says the term ‘illegal entry’ is used in international conventions.

    The verdict: Mr Morrison is correct. Based on the definition set out in the United Nations people smuggling protocol, people who have come to Australia without a valid visa have illegally entered the country. That is the case even though these people have not committed any crime, nor broken any Australian or international law.

    Most choose to leave by IOM bus for the town of Arlit, about six hours to the south through soft sand. And then on to Agadez, the city in Niger that has been a crossroads for African trade and migration for generations. Ultimately, they will return to their home countries on IOM-sponsored flights.

    If they are returning to their “home countries” then they are illegal immigrants. They have no legal basis for being in Algeria and are probably trying to transit that country on the way to Europe.

    Remember always that they are legal ways to immigrate. Some of the strongest voices in Australia against illegal immigrants are legal migrants who followed due process, often waiting years to get here.

  87. The ever more unhinged former president of Ireland, Mary McAleese, railed against the Catholic Church in an interview with the Irish Times this week, denouncing infant baptism and praising gay rights.

    Echoing professional atheist Richard Dawkins, who has argued that labeling children as possessors of religious beliefs is “always a form of child abuse,” McAleese said that babies baptized in the Catholic Church are “infant conscripts who are held to lifelong obligations of obedience.”

    Mary McAleese is an extraordinarily stupid person. The idea that infant baptism imposes lifelong obligations that can never be renounced and is, therefore, a form of child abuse is like saying that giving citizenship to a child born in that territorial jurisdiction imposes lifelong obligations of obedience upon that child that cannot be renounced and is, therefore, also a form of child abuse.

  88. Geriatric Mayfly

    I see Katter grandstanding from the back of the hearing room at the Banking RC in Brisbane. Why isn’t he in Canberra where he is paid to represent his electorate?

  89. Fisky

    Wow, the Left is totally unhinged, openly calling for political violence against their enemies. Quite a coincidence the same people were recently demanding the repeal of the Second Amendment!

  90. Zyconoclast

    Solar rooftops hit record level as state governments increase support

    New solar rooftop installations have reached a record high, putting Australia on track to have a third of its power generated from renewable energy by 2020.

    A monthly Green Energy Markets report said there were 131 megawatts of new rooftop solar installations in May, just above the previous all-time record of 127 megawatts of new installations seen in March, earlier this year.

    There were nearly 19,000 small-scale rooftop solar installations during May, which generated enough electricity to power 38,203 homes.

    This brings the total power generated from solar rooftop installations to around 600 megawatts in the first five months of the year, or about a third of the electricity produced from AGL’s NSW-based Liddell coal-fired power station.

    “This is the strongest month we’ve ever seen in rooftop solar,” Green Energy Markets director Tristan Edis told Fairfax Media.

    This rise is being supported by a number of government initiatives. On Tuesday, the Queensland government announced it would provide means-tested, interest-free loans of up to $4500 to install solar rooftop systems, with a payback period of seven years.

    The Australian Energy Market Commission has also developed draft rules in order to build a register of all rooftop solar and battery systems in order to help energy planning and forecasting, and operation of the grid.

    In May, renewable generation accounted for nearly 20 per cent of Australia’s electricity, creating enough energy to power 9 million homes.

    The majority of this came from hydropower, which produced 1535 gigawatt hours of power, followed by wind at 1387-gigawatt hours and rooftop solar with 546-gigawatt hours of electricity. The rest came from coal and gas-fired power stations.

    There is about 5540 megawatts of new large-scale renewable generation under construction, the majority in wind farms, at 3220 megawatts, followed by solar at 2390 megawatts. Australia’s largest coal-fired power station, Origin’s Eraring facility at Lake Macquarie in NSW, provides 2880 megawatts of electricity.

    Renewable energy’s generation capability on the east coast is expected to reach about 33 per cent of total generation by 2020, this is almost double the 17 per cent in 2015.

    “This first thing that stood out for us is this rate of growth in renewable generation, we don’t think anyone expected we’d get up to that level of renewables by 2020,” Mr Edis told Fairfax Media.

    Green Energy Markets said the continued growth in renewable power was independent of the Turnbull government’s energy policy reform, the National Energy Guarantee.

    “The NEG is unlikely to make any difference to power station investment,” it said.

    “Even if contract and construction commitments to solar farms and wind farms halted from today, ongoing rooftop installations of rooftop solar should see renewables share (of total generation) reaching 39 per cent by 2030.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/solar-rooftop-installations-hit-record-level-as-state-governments-increase-support-20180626-p4zns6.html

  91. egg_

    I see Katter grandstanding from the back of the hearing room at the Banking RC in Brisbane. Why isn’t he in Canberra where he is paid to represent his electorate?

    Blackfella Katter keeping an eye on those banking SOBs?

  92. egg_

    If rejected by the Nats, could Barndoor join the Katterites, or might he get caught up in a bonking RC?

  93. egg_

    the Left is totally unhinged, openly calling for political violence against their enemies. Quite a coincidence the same people were recently demanding the repeal of the Second Amendment!

    The wafer thin PC mask has slipped?

  94. egg_

    ABC is now retailing lies at an even greater rate.

    Especially now that they’ve outsourced their Factchecker to split hairs.

  95. egg_

    bonking RC

    h/t Van Wrongselen.

  96. jupes

    Traitor to what – the same people who spied on Trump?

    Traitor to the US.

    Releasing classified information to China and Russia is hardly the actions of a patriot.

  97. egg_

    Australia to spend nearly $7 billion buying unmanned military planes from America

    Well they have been doing their utmost to unman the defence forces.

    And I am not counting the new breed of heroes wiggling their bots and cavorting about on phallus festooned floats in Sydney as men.

    They’re probably masters of the joystick.

  98. Snoopy

    RMIT Fact Check. Was the Pond’s Institute too expensive or insufficiently compliant?

  99. jupes

    Manning – should still be in jail.
    Assange – really tough one, was he used, was he complicit ?

    Manning should be shot for releasing military secrets to the enemy in wartime.

    Assange should be shot for releasing military secrets to the enemy in wartime.

    However no one can say I’m not a compassionate man. Due to the sterling work conducted by Assange during the recent US election campaign I’m willing to commute his death sentence to life in Ecuadorean Embassy.

  100. Mother Lode

    citing inaccuracies in the film and “outdated attitudes.: F.M.S.

    Do you think that it ever crosses their mind that their attitudes will also be outdated one day?

    Well of course not. They think they are the smartest, most insightful and (they even had to invent a word to encompass how awesome they are) the most ‘woke’ generation ever.

    No one has ever thought they were brilliant before.

  101. OldOzzie

    Malcolm Turnbull quashes push by Tony Abbott for special Coalition meeting on energy policy

    Malcolm Turnbull has shut down a proposal from Tony Abbott to hold a special meeting of the joint party room to allow Coalition MPs to discuss the details of the national energy guarantee before the policy goes to COAG in August.

    The Prime Minister rejected the idea, arguing that the issue had already been canvassed by the party room and would be dealt with in the usual process.

    The joint party room meeting came after Mr Abbott intensified his threat to cross the floor and vote against the government over the final design of NEG. The former prime minister left a crucial meeting in Canberra between business leaders and Coalition MPs this morning saying he was yet to be convinced by the NEG.

    There were at least nine MPs who spoke on energy policy in the party room meeting including Mr Abbott, Tony Pasin, Craig Kelly, Julia Banks, Ann Sudmalis, Richard Colbeck, Barnaby Joyce, Eric Abetz and Jason Falinski.

    Some MPs including Mr Kelly asked about how the demand obligation requirement would work for the 100 biggest energy users, while other MPs including Mr Joyce issued a reminder that any policy should drive down prices for households.

    Mr Pasin told that the joint party room meeting that the government should aim to establish a target for wholesale energy prices. The Australian understands he suggested a target of about $60/MWh in order for Australia to remain internationally competitive.

    Some MPs including Ms Sudmalis and Ms Banks pushed for the national energy guarantee policy to be finalised in order to deliver certainty for the market.

    Senator Abetz sounded the alarm on Labor’s emissions reduction target of 45 per cent, saying it was an “economy wrecking” policy.

    The discussion on energy policy was said to have begun at 11:30am — about the same time as last week’s joint party room meeting — and lasted for about 30 minutes.

    As reported in The Australian last week, Mr Abbott restated this morning that he would not vote with the government if he thought the energy policy would be bad for the country.

    “I have an obligation to keep faith with the position that the government took to the people in 2013,” Mr Abbott said after his meeting with business leaders.

    “Don’t forget what we took to the people in 2013, that the people overwhelmingly endorsed was scrapping the carbon tax as part of ending Labor’s emissions obsession.

    “Now my anxiety about the national energy guarantee is that it is more about reducing emissions more than it is about reducing prices.”

    Mr Abbott has held out the prospect of MPs crossing the floor to oppose the NEG unless it allows for the entry of new coal-fired power plants. He has accused the Prime Minister of trying to stifle discussion of the topic in last week’s joint party room meeting.

    Last week Mr Abbott repeatedly refused to rule out crossing the floor saying Coalition MPs could not “be expected to support a policy that will continue to drive prices up”.

    “I really do hope that it’s not going to come to that. But I do think that the executive government needs to understand that you can’t take the party room for granted,” he told 2GB.

    “I think there’s been a bit of that — a bit of taking the party room for granted.

    “For instance, the Prime Minister has developed this practice of discussing legislation at enormous length at every party room meeting before we actually get to backbenchers’ questions and comments.

    “Now this is completely unprecedented. When John Howard was the leader, when I was the leader, when Malcolm Turnbull was the leader the last time around, when Brendan Nelson was the leader we always went straight from the leadership statement to the backbench questions and comments.”

    Coalition MPs have been told a plan to bring on extra base-load power through either new coal or gas is being drafted by Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg as an “add-on” energy policy to the NEG, in a move that will lock in future supply and head off any ­potential internal government ­rebellion.

    A senior government source last night confirmed that Mr Frydenberg had assured colleagues that he would address concerns about the NEG and the lack of support for coal.

    Resources Minister and Queensland Nationals senator Matt Canavan yesterday defended the NEG on Sky News, saying it would provide reliable supply and help Australia meet its Paris commitments to achieve emissions ­reductions of 26 per cent on 2005 levels by 2030.

    However, he also said it was “really important, of course, that we keep coal as an option”.

    Senator Canavan added that he was “quite confident” that coal- fired power stations would continue to be an option into the ­future, arguing they would be ­accommodated by the NEG.

  102. egg_

    Australia’s complete inability to achieve any meaningful regional decentralisation along the East Coast and SE corner of the country is a tribute to the complete failure of all levels of government.

    Aided and abetted by the NSW Govt, particularly Sydney pedestrians are almost in gridlock in certain locations due to the GST income being p1ssed up the wall on infastructure spending (how much of this is lining cronies/Unions pockets?) even around Hyde Park and the Domain there are roped off areas including Station exits and dunnies – it’s as if a madman was given the planning mission.

  103. Zyconoclast

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/solar-rooftop-installations-hit-record-level-as-state-governments-increase-support-20180626-p4zns6.html

    Solar rooftops hit record level as state governments increase support

    New solar rooftop installations have reached a record high, putting Australia on track to have a third of its power generated from renewable energy by 2020.

    A monthly Green Energy Markets report said there were 131 megawatts of new rooftop solar installations in May, just above the previous all-time record of 127 megawatts of new installations seen in March, earlier this year.

    RTWT

  104. woolfe

    I thought Custer met his fate at the Alamo, or maybe it was Corvefe?

  105. egg_

    “Now my anxiety about the national energy guarantee is that it is more about reducing emissions more than it is about reducing prices.”

    The National Energy Gulag, more likely.

  106. Snoopy

    The claim:

    Reconciliation WA chairwoman Carol Innes refused taxi in Perth because of race

    The likely truth. It was a $3 fare. Which explains why the next cabbie was so outraged.

    On the few occasions I have approached a taxi rank for a short journey, I walk down the line of cabs stating my destination and asking each driver if he wants the job. If it goes that far, the last cab in the queue gets the job. A common courtesy.

    Something, I suspect, a Reconciliation chairwoman might have in short supply.

  107. mizaris

    Baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes the child a Child of God. Parents promise to continue to keep that child as a Child of God.

  108. As I read today, Argentina is the only country to ever go from being labelled “developed” to “developing”.

    The need a new category, just for Argenzuela.

    “Undeveloping”.

  109. RobK

    From zyconoclast’s smh link above:
    There were nearly 19,000 small-scale rooftop solar installations during May, which generated enough electricity to power 38,203 homes.
    This is inaccurate reporting because the inference is merely wishful projection, the 19k installations could not have done such a thing
    The article goes on:
    “This brings the total power generated from solar rooftop installations to around 600 megawatts in the first five months of the year, or about a third of the electricity produced from AGL’s NSW-based Liddell coal-fired power station.
    Here the journo has confused power with energy and no recognition of capacity factor is made. The power station can supply full load on demand. The rating of the solar installs is a maximum if all installs were optimum (they almost never are in a domestic install).

  110. Rae

    Baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes the child a Child of God. Parents promise to continue to keep that child as a Child of God.

    From what was stated upthread:

    “It dedicates the child to God”. Yes.

    “until that child is able to make up their own mind.” No.

  111. RobK

    ……and peak sunshine on a cool clear summer midday.

  112. notafan

    Just in time for some raetheology

    yeah!

  113. RobK

    The solar instals might have a peak power of a third of the coal power station’s peak but there is no way the panels produced a third of the electricty (energy). Very annoying reporting. BS.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #2747357, posted on June 26, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    Well, well, well.

    John McRoberts, former NT Police Commissioner and charmless, thin-skinned pissant was sentenced this morning to three years’ jail with 12 months to serve. He’ll be doing his time in isolation in Alice Springs.

    That’s what happens when you’re sly rooting a travel agent at the centre of a massive fraud investigation, personally veto search warrants and attempt to frustrate and deflect the investigation from start to finish.

    The investigators waited until McRoberts was out of town, re-applied for and got the warrant, and magically the TV cameras were on hand to see the agent handcuffed and thrown in the back of a van. Masterful stuff.

    Yeah, well, if it was Victorianistan and the case officer tried that, I’ll tell you what would happen …
    (1) The press would check it out with Police Meeja, who would contact one of the Overland/Nixon/Ashton brass.
    (2) The line would come back that the investigator was an “old-school” copper running a corrupt vendetta.
    (3) The press would not attend, and the raid would not happen.
    (4) The investigator would suddenly find himself under the pump for #Metoo or racism.
    (5) Business as usual at the top and the girlfriend would get off scot-free

  115. Anne

    God bless real men like Blair Cottrell.

    Here, confronting a 3/4 naked creature, of indeterminate pronoun, gyrating in front of children in Federation Square.

    https://www.3aw.com.au/right-wing-group-leader-confronts-busker-in-federation-square/

  116. mc

    Baptism removes the stain of original sin and makes the child a Child of God. Parents promise to continue to keep that child as a Child of God.

    I think I can live with that. Just because you don’t like your father does not mean that you are not his child. It often comes back to daddy issues.

  117. notafan

    not a hint of racism in Algeria

    from AP to ABC

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The restaurant’s (now-defunct) Facebook page was flooded with complaints from patrons angry at its slow service. Patrons hungry for a sandwich would find the café shuttered at odd times, thanks to opening hours set by employee group decision.

    Socialism defeated by a sandwich.

    Little Millennial Lilly from Outsiders should be told. This is her future.

  119. calli

    I’m getting the picture now. Just had to adjust the vertical hold. 😄

  120. RobK

    😊 sorry, multi tasking.

  121. Mother Lode

    New solar rooftop installations have reached a record high, putting Australia on track to have a third of its power generated from renewable energy by 2020.

    I wish they would stop talking about the nominal peak capacity of ruinables as if that is what they will reliably and consistently deliver.

    All they need do is look at what the current supposed capacity of ruinbables are compare that to what they are actually doing – even a politician can understand that.

    If you trick them into thinking there is an opportunity for a tax in there.

    Actually – that is what they should be thinking: If tax is levied on electricity usage, then then “When the wind don’t blow, that tax don’t flow. If the sun don’t shine, yours don’t become mine.”

  122. Leigh Lowe

    On the few occasions I have approached a taxi rank for a short journey, I walk down the line of cabs stating my destination and asking each driver if he wants the job. If it goes that far, the last cab in the queue gets the job. A common courtesy.

    I don’t agree with that.
    What if they all say no?
    It has only happened to me twice in the last few years and both times I took out my phone and started taking a photo of his cab # and ID and telling him that he is getting dobbed in to the taxi directorate if he doesn’t take the fare.
    Both times they took the fare and both times they tried to take me blocks out of my way because “quicker”.
    And I directed them which way to go, which is also my right.
    Fucking xunts.
    I always think what would happen if Mrs L was coming home from dinner with her girlfriends in the next suburb and all 3-4 in the rank refuse the fare.
    This is why Uber is fucking killing those smelly greedy pricks.
    BTW, there is no obligation to take the first or any cab in a rank. If they are all displaying their “For Hire” lights, they are bound by law to take the fare unless you are pissed or can’t pay.

  123. Mother Lode

    Butchers plead for protection from France’s militant vegans

    Why do the votaries of a supposed creed of peace fill reasonable people with apprehensions of violence?

  124. Mother Lode

    I thought Custer met his fate at the Alamo, or maybe it was Corvefe?

    Nah. Fourth moon of Yarvin. Easy to forget the details. It happened a long time ago. In a galaxy far far away.

  125. DrBeauGan

    Mother Lode
    #2747430, posted on June 26, 2018 at 3:20 pm
    Butchers plead for protection from France’s militant vegans

    Why do the votaries of a supposed creed of peace fill reasonable people with apprehensions of violence?

    Because they are nuts. If they have some loony obsession, maybe they have others. Nutters just aren’t safe.

  126. Mother Lode

    I don’t agree with that.
    What if they all say no?

    If you approach the rank in the right direction, then if it was a $3 fare then when you get to the end of the rank you will already be half way there.

  127. OldOzzie

    Mother Lode
    #2747431, posted on June 26, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    I thought Custer met his fate at the Alamo, or maybe it was Corvefe?

    Nah. Fourth moon of Yarvin. Easy to forget the details. It happened a long time ago. In a galaxy far far away.

    The Battle of the Little Bighorn is one of the most studied actions in U.S. military history, and the immense literature on the subject is devoted primarily to answering questions about Custer’s generalship during the fighting. But neither he nor the 209 men in his immediate command survived the day, and an Indian counterattack would pin down seven companies of their fellow 7th Cavalrymen on a hilltop over four miles away. (Of about 400 soldiers on the hilltop, 53 were killed and 60 were wounded before the Indians ended their siege the next day.) The experience of Custer and his men can be reconstructed only by inference.

    This is not true of the Indian version of the battle. Long-neglected accounts given by more than 50 Indian participants or witnesses provide a means of tracking the fight from the first warning to the killing of the last of Custer’s troopers—a period of about two hours and 15 minutes. In his new book, The Killing of Crazy Horse, veteran reporter Thomas Powers draws on these accounts to present a comprehensive narrative account of the battle as the Indians experienced it. Crazy Horse’s stunning victory over Custer, which both angered and frightened the Army, led to the killing of the chief a year later. “My purpose in telling the story as I did,” Powers says, “was to let the Indians describe what happened, and to identify the moment when Custer’s men disintegrated as a fighting unit and their defeat became inevitable.”

    Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-the-battle-of-little-bighorn-was-won-63880188/#MolRAjEuhVHyFldC.99
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  128. jupes

    Crazy Horse’s stunning victory over Custer, which both angered and frightened the Army, led to the killing of the chief a year later.

    As it should.

  129. Leigh Lowe

    If you approach the rank in the right direction, then if it was a $3 fare then when you get to the end of the rank you will already be half way there.

    Mmmyes.
    Technically, I don’t think there is such a thing as a $3 fare, because flagfall takes care of that.
    The point is that they are required as part of their licencing to take any and all fares for the metered fare.
    The dullards can’t even figure out that probably a dozen $8 – $10 fares with flagfall in a short period of time is better than a $60 zoom to the airport, then waiting for an hour for a return trip.
    Anyway, fuck ’em.
    They are Uber’s supreme marketing tools.

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Battle of the Little Bighorn is one of the most studied actions in U.S. military history, and the immense literature on the subject is devoted primarily to answering questions about Custer’s generalship during the fighting. But neither he nor the 209 men in his immediate command survived the day

    An interesting link, indeed, OldOzzie. I’ll bag a copy of that book.

  131. Mother Lode

    I would have thought the slow indifferent service would have been an intended to lend a certain authenticity to the Marxist experience.

    If customers weren’t so spoiled by capitalism they would have enjoyed the especial experience of forming lines outside for hours on end.

    I don’t suppose the mural of Che had his bodied riddled with holes from steel-cased Brussels sprouts and cranberry juice pouring out.

  132. Stimpson J. Cat

    God needs absolutely nothing from us.

    Well that’s clearly not true.
    There is no Jesus without Mary.
    No resurrection without Judas.
    No Christianity without disciples.

    Without humans you simply have an omniscient omnipotent being talking to himself for eternity.
    This is boring as f$ck obviously after the first few eternities, so at a certain point he realized he needed some hobbies.

    This is not rocket science, sane people.
    It’s all fairly straightforward.

  133. Rockdoctor

    Solar rooftops hit record level as state governments increase support

    Friend just got burnt by this. Very much buyer beware. Free installation & a fee to the provider each month for 10 years to pay for the panels. Flashy advertising saying save 400 a quarter on power bill yadda yadda yadda. Looked like a good deal, till the 1st power bill came in. Power from the grid down but outgoing including fees his bill was higher than this time last year. Seems Ergon price rises, administration fees & the solar panel company fees pretty well much cancelled out any savings. He had a friend who was a lawyer look over the paperwork & yep it may be legit but the advertised savings aren’t worth the paper they are written on but don’t constitute deception…

    I have avoided the panels as a family member who is up in the executive level in finance of a multinational did the sums on them coming to the conclusion even with subsidies they weren’t worth it. Plus what cometh can be taketh by a stroke of a pen in Brisbane…

  134. calli

    Without humans you simply have an omniscient omnipotent being talking to himself for eternity.

    Why not? The Trinity is a relationship of perfect love.

    We have the privilege of being let in on the “conversation”.

  135. stackja

    LL – I don’t know any Uber. I have never had a problem with taxi drivers.

  136. The Australian understands he suggested a target of about $60/MWh in order for Australia to remain internationally competitive.

    At that price without the RETs and other energy taxes it would represent >$30/MWh profit for some coal generators.
    No way could unsubsidized, wind/solar compete in a $60/MWh unrigged market.

    Take the hint you fsckwits. Get rid of the energy taxes!

  137. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Death Giraffe, saw that picture you put up last night without comment about it, the one of the A-model Ford as a work-in-progress on the black and white tiles.

    Did you put it up to get help? Have you lost the instructions?
    Is it like Ikea, you can get so far and no further because there aren’t enough screws?
    Or do you just seek admiration for a great pic and a job going well?

    I am better at admiration than I am at engineering, so I’m just going to say that it looks nice. 🙂

  138. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Nothing has changed’: Aboriginal politician furious as it’s revealed ALL children in Northern Territory youth detention are Indigenous

    “Daily Mail” running with the story.

  139. Baldrick

    Reconciliation WA chairwoman Carol Innes refused taxi in Perth because of race

    Where in the story does it say she was refused service because of her race? Sure, he told her to get out but that was because it was a short fare and nothing to do with her being an aborigine.

  140. The Battle of the Little Bighorn

    Bananaby versus Trumble?

  141. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2747439, posted on June 26, 2018 at 3:37 pm
    God needs absolutely nothing from us.

    Well that’s clearly not true.
    There is no Jesus without Mary.
    No resurrection without Judas.
    No Christianity without disciples.

    Without humans you simply have an omniscient omnipotent being talking to himself for eternity.
    This is boring as f$ck obviously after the first few eternities, so at a certain point he realized he needed some hobbies.

    This is not rocket science, sane people.
    It’s all fairly straightforward.

    Then it is obviously our responsibility to God to be as entertaining as possible. I hope you send up a joke to Him on Sundays.

  142. stackja

    Baldrick – stop confusing the narrative with inconvenient details.

  143. areff

    I suspect the Oz editor is already working on this.

    Not altogether sure Boris knows what he is doing, certainly not to the extent Chris Mitchell was on top of his newsroom, content and readership. Why else make one of his first jobs the sacking of Christian Kerr, who formerly did Cut and Paste. Tell me it has improved under whichever recent J-school grad compiles it these days. I don’t think so.

  144. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why not?

    Yeah no.
    A crazy lonely God capable of annihilating an entire planets population on a whim is the last thing anyone needs.
    Better that he has crazy people to talk to so he stays sane I think.
    It’s just better for everyone this way.

  145. John Constantine

    I saw The Giraffe de Morte put his A model footage up and whistled in admiration for the sheer relentless doggedness a project like this can dig of a blokes soul.

  146. Senile Old Guy

    From the posted link to the AP story:

    Along with the migrants who make their way from Algeria to Niger on foot, thousands more Nigerien migrants are expelled directly home in convoys of trucks and buses. That’s because of a 2015 agreement between Niger and Algeria to deal with Nigeriens living illegally in their neighbor to the north.

    Talk about deceptive. If they are “living illegally”, they are not “migrants”; they are “illegal immigrants”.

  147. areff

    A while since i read it, but Son of the Morning Star has a stack of details about Little Big Horn’s combatants, including much from the winners’ point of view.

    Here for those interested: https://www.amazon.com/Son-Morning-Star-Custer-Bighorn/product-reviews/0865475105/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

  148. C.L.

    Breaking at DRUDGE …
    Snowden was right. Americans are under massive police state surveillance.

  149. Leo G

    I hope you send up a joke to Him on Sundays.

    Of course, it’s He who gets the last laugh.

  150. Snoopy

    BTW, there is no obligation to take the first or any cab in a rank.

    True, I could simply go to the last cab in the queue, but I give the others the choice of knocking back the fare. I have never ended up at the last cab, but if I did I wouldn’t be asking, I’d be hopping into the passenger seat.

  151. Baldrick

    This will explode for Leftard heads, particularly at the ABC-

    Aust Conservatives ✔ @AuConservatives
    Senator @corybernardi has moved that @realDonaldTrump should be invited to address the Australian Parliament if he comes to Australia
    ___
    Aust Conservatives ✔ @AuConservatives
    This motion seeking an invitation to @realDonaldTrump to address a joint meeting of the Australian Parliament – if he visits in November – has passed the Senate

  152. C.L.

    America’s “intelligence community” needs to be smashed to smithereens.
    They maintain their privileges, their Deep State power and their budgets by hyping imaginary threats from “Russia” and their ability to “prevent” terrorism. (Which they have never done).

  153. Des Deskperson

    ‘Tell me it has improved under whichever recent J-school grad compiles it these days. I don’t think so.’

    Jim Jefferies isn’t bad. Pia Akerman is prima-facie just a nepotee.

    Kerr was brilliant back in his Hilary Bray days in the old, unreconstructed ‘Crikey’.

  154. calli

    Thanks areff. I will read up before I visit.

    From the little research I’ve done, it’s on a side road in the middle of nowhere. We’ll be driving from Rapid City (Mt Rushmore), across Montana via Devil’s Tower.

    Hopefully no close encounters on the way.

  155. Makka

    One guy with a twitter account is destroying the leftscum in the US

    While here, we have a spineless bunch of UN loving parasites in Govt.

    Townhall.com

    Today, New York City based political commentator, Ryan Girdusky, pointed out a statistic from a CBS poll released today that may surprise some Democratic officials – most Americans want parents and children who enter America illegally kept together as a unit, but prefer that the entire family is either detained or deported after they are caught crossing the border into America. In fact, just 21% of Americans believe that these illegal aliens and their offspring should be released into American streets.

    Breitbart

    A clean majority of 62 percent believe the “traditional news media” is biased. A full 44 percent believe the media is inaccurate, and another 39 percent believe the media spread misinformation.

    January 2014 – In response to the projections, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) posts a jobs notification seeking bids to facilitate 65,000 Unaccompanied Alien Children. fbo.gov/index?s=opport…
    14. IMPORTANT. This job posting was January 2014. The Obama administration was *planning for* 65,000 childhood arrivals. In January 2014 they were taking contractor bids for services to be used later in year. Almost no-one noticed.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1010988993683623936.html

    Breitbart

    Obama DHS Sec Jeh Johnson: ‘We Believed It Was Necessary’ to Detain Children, Families

  156. jupes

    A while since i read it, but Son of the Morning Star has a stack of details about Little Big Horn’s combatants, including much from the winners’ point of view.

    Can I recommend this book to you areff:

    Empire of the Summer Moon Mainly about the Comanches but has a fair bit about the bloke who defeated them. Ranald S. Mackenzie; a peer of Custer who also rose to General rank during the civil war but was a superior Indian fighter.

  157. calli

    Whoops. That’s across the top of Wyoming. You have to cross the state line into Montana to get to Little Big Horn.

  158. Leo G

    They maintain their privileges, their Deep State power and their budgets by hyping imaginary threats from “Russia” and their ability to “prevent” terrorism. (Which they have never done).

    Why would they prevent terrorism when it’s so useful to justify the extension of DS power- which in turn enhances the privileges?

  159. Makka

    America’s “intelligence community” needs to be smashed to smithereens.

    +1 mill.

    The corrupt US IC exists primarily to generate power and black money for itself. That much is abundantly clear. They support the leftscum because they both cohabit the same part of the sewer that uses their power and influence to further their totalitarian regimes and creepy surveillance over private citizens. This is why leftard media comes out so hard against Trump’s efforts to regularise NK and Iran.

    That regime of course is supported enthusiastically in Australia as well under the 5 Eyes agreement. We are being surveilled by the same scum.

  160. Makka

    These people hate the USA;

    A Democratic lawmaker on Monday introduced legislation to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE),

  161. Leigh Lowe

    Whoops. That’s across the top of Wyoming. You have to cross the state line into Montana to get to Little Big Horn.

    Bzzzzt.
    Wrong.
    I’m almost certain that Little Big Horn is near San Antonio, Texas.
    Pretty sure I read that fact here actually.

  162. A Democratic lawmaker on Monday introduced legislation to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE),

    This is the endgame of Leftist policy on immigration.

  163. DrBeauGan

    Makka
    #2747472, posted on June 26, 2018 at 4:48 pm
    These people hate the USA;

    A Democratic lawmaker on Monday introduced legislation to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE),

    They hate everything that the USA stands for. Truth, Justice and the American way gives them a massive sense of inferiority.

  164. Baldrick

    I’m almost certain that Little Big Horn is near San Antonio, Texas.

    Everybody knows LBH is near Majuro, Victoria. I’ve consulted Gargoolery maps.

  165. Leigh Lowe

    Aust Conservatives @AuConservatives
    This motion seeking an invitation to @realDonaldTrump to address a joint meeting of the Australian Parliament – if he visits in November – has passed the Senate

    Please, Dear God … I want him to thank the Australian Parliament for their leadership and inspiration on border control.
    Please say it Don.
    And we can watch SHY bite her own tongue off live to air.

  166. Senile Old Guy

    The royal commission provided evidence that the ways that the Balanda [white] system treats Aboriginal children is inhumane, costly and does not work’, Mr Guyula said at last week’s NT estimates hearing. ‘We want to see our elders in control of raypirri – or discipline – for our young people,’ he said.

    Sure. Before the youths (not “children”) ended up in detention, the elders had any amount of time to do something. And “balance” is racist term.

  167. Geriatric Mayfly

    Zero wind generation in eastern Australia.

    And this morning my anemometer held out such promise, straining as it was under the force of a 2 knot gale. It has calmed itself down and now reports zero wind activity. Bats and nocturnal birds, the skies are yours.

  168. calli

    🤣

    Going to check out the Alamo too. Apparently the Grassy Knoll caff there does a great loaded long black.

  169. Fisky

    America’s “intelligence community” needs to be smashed to smithereens.

    The “Five Eyes” should be destroyed too, on the grounds of conspiring in an illegal coup attempt against the 2016 election.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    We want to see our elders in control of raypirri – or discipline – for our young people,’ he said.

    Does he mean raypirri?
    Or rape-irri?

  171. Leigh Lowe

    Everybody knows LBH is near Majuro, Victoria. I’ve consulted Gargoolery maps.

    Majuro is in Texas too, you idiot.

  172. calli

    * otherwise known as “Bulletproof”.

  173. mc

    We have the privilege of being let in on the “conversation”.

    Nicely put Calli

  174. OldOzzie

    Leigh Lowe
    #2747485, posted on June 26, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    Everybody knows LBH is near Majuro, Victoria. I’ve consulted Gargoolery maps.

    Majuro is in Texas too, you idiot.

    But Texas is in Queensland!

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    Katter rebuked at bank inquiry
    MP Bob Katter has twice interrupted a hearing into farm lending but was told: “You’re not the only one who is concerned.”
    The Oz.

    Mentioned earlier that this dim bulb was up in Brisbane making a nuisance of himself (and grandstanding) from the back of the hearing. He seems to have forgotten, that on sitting days his first duty is in Canberra representing his electorate. Even though the poor buggers must despair betimes.

  176. Baldrick

    Majuro is in Texas too, you idiot.

    What part of Majuro is the capital of Texas don’t you understand numbnuts?

  177. H B Bear

    He seems to have forgotten, that on sitting days his first duty is in Canberra representing his electorate. Even though the poor buggers must despair betimes.

    They get an opportunity to throw him out every 3 years. The bumpkins have only themselves to blame.

  178. egg_

    Southpawmouseman did have virtue signal competition on the Dumb from Birdie (Bridie maybe), writer for the Guardian/unkempt whinger.
    NB. Refer the Great White Hope’s advice regarding Red Hen restaurant renovation as the same advice for Bridie’s required makeover to become attractive.

    Young Bridie has the worst permanent scowl of all Frightbats.

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Reconciliation WA chairwoman Carol Innes refused taxi in Perth because of race

    Where in the story does it say she was refused service because of her race? Sure, he told her to get out but that was because it was a short fare and nothing to do with her being an aborigine.

    Err, if you play the race card at every opportunity, you justify the existence of “Reconciliation WA”, and the salary paid to the chairwoman?

  180. thefrolickingmole

    C.L.
    Breaking at DRUDGE …
    Snowden was right. Americans are under massive police state surveillance.

    But as long as the “G-men” are incorruptible (oooh! free movie tickets for leaks, and sex) paragons of impartiality (republican scum) and you have nothing to hide (Hmmm, went on “donkeys and Mexican glass topped tables” website when he was 16) theres nothing to fear (Comrade), your secrets are safe with us (did we mention we are underfunded, maybe you could help?)

    Anyone wanting to see a good reason to shut them down should read “Legacy of ashes”, if quite damning.

  181. jupes

    ‘We want to see our elders in control of raypirri – or discipline – for our young people,’ he said.

    Bill Leak nailed the proper response to this rubbish.

  182. rickw

    Shitty plastic connector successfully fixed with some watchmaker level soldering!!!

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We want to see our elders in control of raypirri – or discipline – for our young people,’ he said.

    I don’t think you are actually allowed to spear young offenders in the leg any more?

  184. RobK

    But Texas is in Queensland!
    But Queensland is in Calgary.

  185. JC

    Ronery, we’ve set up a blog for you. See what you think and let me know any changes you think ought to be made. However, I strongly suggest we go with the name as it’s been tested and everyone thought it great.

  186. Confused Old Misfit

    A crazy lonely God capable of annihilating an entire planets population on a whim is the last thing anyone needs.

    Monotheist!
    How do you know there are not several Gods and Goddesses swanning around out there having a grand time seeing what their creations get up to and comparing notes?

  187. Myrddin Seren

    Breaking at DRUDGE …
    Snowden was right. Americans are under massive police state surveillance

    And yet strangely the only known largely-complete archive of Granma Killary’s corro from her time as SecState sits in a folder labelled ‘Insurance’ on Carlos Danger’s laptop. Right next to the folder marked ‘Fresh Pizza’

    All that NSA power and the whole time she was running her home brew server, the NSA never noticed.

    We should all be so fortunate to have our privacy thusly respected.

  188. Makka

    All that NSA power and the whole time she was running her home brew server, the NSA never noticed.

    It may also be that they did notice. NSA won’t be telling anyone how they gather private communications. However to take legal action those emails and correspondence on Wiener’s laptop have to be introduced into the legal environment lawfully through proper channels. That’s the challenge now with DOJ/FBI obstruction as they withhold mountains of Dem related correspondence in defiance of Republicans in Congress.

  189. Stimpson J. Cat

    Monotheist!
    How do you know there are not several Gods and Goddesses swanning around out there having a grand time seeing what their creations get up to and comparing notes?

    I’m only going by what I can scientifically prove aka Noah’s Ark in the Bible etc etc.

  190. JC

    That’s the challenge now with DOJ/FBI obstruction as they withhold mountains of Dem related correspondence in defiance of Republicans in Congress.

    Trump’s appointments to the FBI and CEO appear very much in the Washington establishment, so there won;t be any major changes is a hurry.

  191. Makka

    The cracks are appearing though JC. Timing for the mid terms governs all I suspect.

  192. Entropy

    That Bamking royal commission seems to be trotting out the very same farmers (Stuarts, PRowells, Philotts, Vineys etc) that have been trotted out for every inquiry in rural lending for the last decade. If these are the only people being dudded it isn’t actually that big a problem.

  193. Mark A

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2747444, posted on June 26, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    Is it like Ikea, you can get so far and no further because there aren’t enough screws?

    Whoever heard of such a thing as not enough screws for an Ikea piece?
    if you haven’t got any left over, you’ve done it wrong.

  194. egg_

    Shitty plastic connector successfully fixed with some watchmaker level soldering!!!

    Been great reading your saga and impro’s, Prince Phillip would empathise, I’m sure.

  195. JC

    Makka

    How do you think the midtterms will shape. Look, I have no edge and only just a gut feel, but it doesn’t look to me the D’rats are going to have the resounding victory they think or pretend they will . In fact, it wouldn’t greatly surprise if the GOP ends up with an increased majority. This is of course based on the view that the Mueller investigation ends up being a bust as it looks like it will be.

  196. Leigh Lowe

    Nice to see the Catallaxy header commemorating Colonel Custer’s victory at the Alamo.
    (Custer is 11th from the left in the top-hat).

  197. Helen

    Cattle the next target in climate war

    To celebrate, we are having ribs tonight! Might even crack a bottle of red to wash them down with, along with (hopefully) kidney, sweetbread, liver and (extra hopefully) milkgut.

    I heard on the radio they have found him, so all good, his final few seconds on this earth and then yummy delicousness for us.

    Re the carbon dioxide cow crap, even if it was a problem which it isnt, – we could completely depopulate Oz and it wouldn’t even make a blip on the road for Chin’s coal fired future, I shake my head that industry bodies have fallen for it. Bentthemselves over the barrel and squealing like pigs. Does no-one have any guts any more? Apart from Mark Latham?

    Give me the whole of life costs, and the alternative costs. No cows, equals wildfires, equals??? Hello? Anyone there?

    Bruce could do a net present value assessment – he is very good and proved to me that the cheapest form of power for us was diesel fuel genny, 24/7. Basically I paid 100K plus for a bit of quiet – which you can aslo get with a quiet running generator – you can hardly hear them. Birdsong and incoming easy to hear with them.

    MT – I have hoped that Lucy would leave her slippers about and he would trip over them and you know the rest – have to retire due to something or other, but there are such a lot of wets behind him I dont know it would make any difference.

    We are in for a tough few years, I think.

  198. thefrolickingmole

    Just imagine, if trdbull and the black hand actually scrape home a win they will strongly believe its due to tacking further to the left/crony capitalism/big business/big union/big kickbacks model here we go.

  199. Makka

    JC,

    It’s pretty clear that the swing is on against the Dems. To what extent remains difficult to tell just yet. If the left keep behaving as they are this will (hopefull?encourage the Republicans to get out the vote which should result in increased GOP majority. If between now and the elections much more dirt is exposed from ongoing investigations into the Dems and the previous Administration then it could go very badly indeed for them.

    What can the Dems run on? Economy and Jobs? National Security? Trade? BORDER SECURITY? Trump has the big issues sewn up.

  200. Confused Old Misfit

    God is the mode of being you value the most as demonstrated or manifested in your presumption, perception and action.

    Jordan Peterson

  201. BrettW

    JC’s Zulu derangement syndrome kicks in again. Pretty much a daily occurrence now.

    Gotta run JC, people to meet but as I said yesterday you should probably seek help.

  202. DrBeauGan

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2747527, posted on June 26, 2018 at 6:22 pm
    God is the mode of being you value the most as demonstrated or manifested in your presumption, perception and action.

    Jordan Peterson

    So, not the creator of the universe, then?

  203. Confused Old Misfit

    Sinc! How is that you are not here? https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNxaXzdYwbJj

  204. Pickles

    Helen
    Sounds like killnight.
    Have another slab of kidney as a toast to Mr Driver of Elkedra.

  205. Snoopy

    It’s pretty clear that the swing is on against the Dems

    I hope you’re right, Maka, but what are Zoe’s kids and Uncle Monty predicting?

  206. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2747530, posted on June 26, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    Dear White Allies….

    Hey, she’s culturally appropriated our alphabet and language!

  207. Confused Old Misfit

    So, not the creator of the universe, then?

    To which God/Goddess are you refering?
    With respect to the Peterson quote, the creator/creation of the universe is

    manifested in your presumption, perception and action.

    or if you like, your belief.
    No proofs are, or can be offered.

  208. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Have Colonel Custer’s 11 secret herbs and spices ever being revealed?

  209. calli

    God is the mode of being you value the most as demonstrated or manifested in your presumption, perception and action.

    Jordan Peterson

    That’s just Jordan Peterson’s presumption and perception of how to sum God up.

    I suspect He’s a wee bit more complex than that.

  210. Tintarella di Luna

    Just had a robo-call from my local member hung up immediately — that talentless, moon-faced, moose-knuckle-chinned creature keeps appearing, unbidden, on my computer screen too. I hope the AC runs someone in my electorate because I can’t vote for the Greens and the Uniparty is unthinkable.

  211. Snoopy

    Dear White Allies….

    What a clueless fuckwit.

  212. Gab

    hope the AC runs someone in my electorate because I can’t vote for the Greens and the Uniparty is unthinkable.

    Ditto for my electorate!

  213. JC

    Rooster
    It’s a combined effort and hope you’ll participate. Don’t be so negative as a lot of good could come out of it, you triggered big blouse.

  214. Helen

    Pickles, I will, and to all the other stockmen who now ride the night sky.

  215. egg_

    Just had a robo-call from my local member hung up immediately — that talentless, moon-faced, moose-knuckle-chinned creature keeps appearing, unbidden, on my computer screen too. I hope the AC runs someone in my electorate because I can’t vote for the Greens and the Uniparty is unthinkable.

    When surveys ask for verbal feedback after the tone, I wonder how many raspberries they cop?

  216. Helen

    Icing on the crap cake

    Proposal for Traditional Owners to become ‘landlords’ of pastoral leases

    What planet do they come from? Always happy to give stuff away that is not theirs.

  217. Tintarella di Luna

    Helen, wanted to say how much I appreciated your comment the other day, thank you for taking the time to post it. Best wishes

  218. egg_

    Leave:
    1 raspberry for low level crap
    2 raspberries for medium level crap
    3 raspberries for high level crap

  219. Ubique

    Perth – London that is.

  220. Tel

    NSA won’t be telling anyone how they gather private communications.

    It is 100% already public knowledge and has been for decades. The main data trunks in and out of just about everywhere are fully tapped. Snowden simply confirmed it, but it’s about the most open of all open secrets.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance

  221. calli

    This is interesting. The earliest drawing of a cocky?

  222. DrBeauGan

    o which God/Goddess are you refering?
    With respect to the Peterson quote, the creator/creation of the universe is

    manifested in your presumption, perception and action.

    or if you like, your belief.
    No proofs are, or can be offered.

    Some beliefs are better than others. Great aunt Mildred (by marriage) believes she’s a potplant.

  223. JC

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2747548, posted on June 26, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    Helen, wanted to say how much I appreciated your comment the other day, thank you for taking the time to post it. Best wishes

    Yes, good old Helen will get the vote immediately after our voting reforms

  224. Stimpson J. Cat

    God is the mode of being you value the most as demonstrated or manifested in your presumption, perception and action.
    Jordan Peterson

    Who in their right mind could actually seriously write something like this?
    Stupid f$cking leaf what a Muppet for f$cks sake.

  225. egg_

    Teh Dumb almost permanently has an “indigenous”* lawyer on the panel nowadays – how many SOBs are in that industry?

    *Would pass for a Scandinavian, as most of them do.

  226. JC

    Stimson

    He’s not your or my cup of tea, but he’s generally good value in the fight against leftism. He held up to the leftist onslaught on noun banning in Canada as well as teaching low esteem boys to hang in there and change their lives.

  227. Boambee John

    We want to see our elders in control of raypirri – or discipline – for our young people,’ he said.

    Fine. Each young person to have an elder (male for the boys, female for the girls) who accepts personal responsibility for the behaviour of each young person. The weight of white man’s law to fall on the shoulders of the responsible elder, who will then discipline the youngster, in the event of problems.

    We could call them step-parents.

  228. Helen

    Thanks Tinta, I guess it is not an easy thing to understand, another business. It really is economics, if out of a bisciut tin like Indo wet marketers do. Cashflow is the biggest hurdle in asset rich businesses with high inpout costs. If you choke the cash coming in, then something has to give.

    I wish people would focus on real solutions rather than knee jerk reactions, there doesnt seem to be much logic or reason in shuttered minds.

    Enough of that, I have half a glass of red in anticipation of the feast, and I am waiting to hear Captain fly back in – wont be long, as it is almost last light. And then that flutter of excitement – he does it for me still. We must take our moments and cherish them.

  229. Someone needs to advise Jordan Peterson to focus.

  230. Boambee John

    DrBeauGan
    #2747535, posted on June 26, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2747530, posted on June 26, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    Dear White Allies….

    Hey, she’s culturally appropriated our alphabet and language!

    And our printing press!

  231. Makka

    It is 100% already public knowledge and has been for decades.

    I should have worded that better – “The NSA won’t tell you what they have or how exactly they gather all of it”

    Tel, the wiki article shows common knowledge about surveillance , agreed. NSA methods of hacking Google and Xbox, Fb algo manipulations etc are still pretty guarded I suspect.

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