Wednesday Forum: July 4, 2018

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  1. Herodotus

    One ABC lady yesterday read an item about that well-known IS leader Al-Bacardi.

    She immediately corrected herself: Al-Baghdadi!

  2. Death Giraffe

    and a surplus of cheap and crappy commas thrust upon them…

  3. Leigh Lowe

    There is no suggestion that Wilson was apprised of a crime. He has been convicted of allegedly having been apprised of an allegation.

    OK, however, that is, I think, the crux of mandatory reporting legislation.
    You are not, in fact, obliged to find irrefutable proof to make a report. You must report a “reasonable suspicion” or a “concern about safety”.
    Conversely, you cannot be excused from reporting because you only had a suspicion or an allegation, but not hard proof.
    My question goes to two things:-
    (1) Can you be guilty under mandatory reporting legislation passed in 1995 for inaction in 1970? Or is it deemed that he should have reported 25 year old allegations as soon as the legislation passed?
    (2) Is a priest or bishop (not holding a teaching role) deemed to be a “mandatory reporter”?
    Or have they pinged him under some other provision of the Crimes Act not related to mandatory reporting?

  4. cohenite – go further. The problem is people are taking “Bustle” as a serious news outlet.

    It is a pathetic festering canker of feminist crankery.

  5. mh

    I would pay for a rub & tug from Scarlett Johanssen.

    There, I’ve said it.

  6. Des Deskperson

    ‘DFAT explains that Australia has a ‘clear national interest’ in the security, stability and prosperity of sub-Saharan Africa.’

    I suppose we do, in the same sense that we have a clear national interest in ‘world peace’.

    Whether a country like Australian should or could be trying to make any actual impact in that region – even if the money was being at least adequately used – is another matter entirely.

    One of DFAT’s key problems – presumably encouraged or at least acquiesced in by Governments of both stripes – is the pretence that Australia is some sort of world power. This means not only that we get involved in issues that are not our concern, but that we maintain expensive missions all over the world in countries where we have no interest and where the mission staff have nothing to do.

  7. Mother Lode

    The secret behind Lisa Wilkinson’s perfect skin at 58

    Simple.

    She gets a new one, freshly sewn and emollient lovingly massaged in it, supplied by Grloograes ‘Skin to Live In’.

    The only problem is that some of the ointments and balsams that have to be regularly applied to keep it soft and supple can react with the face powder they use for TV and sets like concrete – which is why she so typically has that unnerving frozen smile.

  8. Mater

    m0nty
    #2755411, posted on July 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    So, is that the only thing you have got? Because pretty much every other major institution in society is biased towards rich white men.

    For the third time, m0nty, noting you’ve changed the goal post to include ‘rich’.

    Try this (from a Prime Minister & Cabinet study) :

    STUDY
    This study aimed to test the magnitude of gender and ethnic minority bias in APS shortlisting processes, and the impact of introducing a gender/ethnicity-blind approach to reviewing job applications for shortlisting purposes.
    RESULTS
    The results showed that overall, de-identifying applications at the shortlisting stage does not appear to assist in promoting diversity within the APS in hiring. Overall, APS officers discriminated in favour of female and minority candidates.

    There is even a beautifully produced video to make it easy to peruse.

    http://behaviouraleconomics.pmc.gov.au/projects/going-blind-see-more-clearly-unconscious-bias-australian-public-service-aps-shortlisting

  9. cohenite

    The problem is people are taking “Bustle” as a serious news outlet.

    I thought bustle was another gender variety.

  10. Boambee John

    H B Bear
    #2755468, posted on July 5, 2018 at 12:23 pm
    Wow. Just heard the Deputy Premier of Victoriastan describe State government as “… the engine room of the economy” in a report on the GST on ALPBC news. I guess if you live in a neo-Marxist state it probably is.

    The reactionary running dog lackey would agree completely with this fascist sentiment, even though he runs a small business!

  11. Mater

    Don’t make me do it again. I’m getting sick of re-doing the links.

  12. Mother Lode

    The Aussie dollar rollercoaster (explained for economic amateurs)

    How thoughtful of them.

    Seriously, though. Condescending, much?

    This would be the same tax-hoovering ABC that believes it contributes billions to the Australian economy, right?

  13. She gets a new one, freshly sewn and emollient lovingly massaged in it, supplied by Grloograes ‘Skin to Live In’.

    I think she also may bow down to a hologram and say “what is thy bidding my master?” afterwards.

  14. Boambee John

    stackja
    #2755480, posted on July 5, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    Family Court another Lionel.

    Lionel was almost the first litigant to benefit from his family law act. Traded in his current wife for a trophy model.

  15. Boambee John

    Mater at 1244

    Thanks, I referred to this study on the previous page, but incorrectly attributed the link to Des D.

    The reactionary running dog lackey will ignore this study, as it doesn’t support the fascist left “narrative”.

  16. Habib

    The only national interest in the security, stability and prosperity in sub-Saharan Africa is to not have to deploy forces there to sort out yet another tribal/ideological/theocratic shitfight among the resident savages, and to not have a steady flow of sullen, hostile reffos from said shithole. We could of course ignore the whole irrelevant wasteland, and leave them to their internecine homicide which has kept them busy and entertained for eons.

    But then the likes of Stabby wouldn’t be able to ponce around the UN, telling everyone what a big lasagna they are, and generous to boot. With looted money.

  17. duncanm

    Some History
    #2755283, posted on July 5, 2018 at 9:06 am
    For anyone interested.

    Volume UP.

    Phil Collins Live (1982)

    The awesome Phenix Horns from Earth Wind and Fire.

  18. egg_

    Just heard the Deputy Premier of Victoriastan describe State government as “… the engine* room of the economy”

    *The irony must escape them, when they’re bowling over fossil fuel power as quickly as they can.

  19. Habib

    In Danograd’s case, I’d say hamster wheel would be more accurate than engine room. These mongs probably even believe such obviously imbecilic and patently wrong dogma.

  20. egg_

    She gets a new one, freshly sewn and emollient lovingly massaged in it, supplied by Grloograes ‘Skin to Live In’.

    They’re not foreskin transplants from Pirate Pete?

  21. OneWorldGovernment

    Des Deskperson
    #2755491, posted on July 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    One of DFAT’s key problems – presumably encouraged or at least acquiesced in by Governments of both stripes – is the pretence that Australia is some sort of world power. This means not only that we get involved in issues that are not our concern, but that we maintain expensive missions all over the world in countries where we have no interest and where the mission staff have nothing to do.

    Struth

    Kindly deliver a dozer next to the DFAT pyramids in Canberra so I can bulldoze the useless pricks into the ground.

    And I see no reason that we should have any representation in England who basically ‘shat’ upon Australia when they sucked up to the EU.

    They, England, can die the bastards.

  22. JC

    Oz’s, the Mocker rips Fat Lips Southpaw a new one and also suggests he should be deported…. No just kidding with the last bit.

    Good read and very mocking too.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/the-mocker/the-mocker-tim-soutphommasanes-latest-tantrum-was-petulant-and-unbecoming/news-story/61bf938a8064f1e84ad6d4107f590fbe

  23. egg_

    In Danograd’s case, I’d say hamster wheel would be more accurate than engine room.

    With Lemmiwinks doing the hard yards.

  24. cohenite

    Isn’t is funny, hilarious even, that Jim Jordan, who gave Rosenstein the hardest time during the house hearings, is now being accused of covering up, or should have known about the activity of a sexual predator who was on the same staff as Jordan at Ohio State University.

    Strange innit?

  25. calli

    Perhaps you could re-visit the topic and write which was best and which was worst and why.

    For the mother or the child?

  26. duncanm

    Mr Morrison said making sure no-one was worse off could be done by “making the pie bigger”.

    Why do I immediately think of The Magic Pudding ?

  27. JC

    I posted how that occurred, Cohenite.

    If you stopped looking at what other people post instead of staring at your own in wonderment, you would realize.

    It’s a stitch up.

    JC
    #2755139, posted on July 4, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    Wow, just wow

    Ned Ryun Retweeted The Hill

    The law firm behind Steele Dossier is behind this. . . Meaning probably a real chance Fusion GPS is involved with it as well. . .

    Unreal

    Keep up tortoise.

  28. zyconoclast

    South Korea to tighten asylum laws as hundreds of Yemenis arrive

    SEOUL (Reuters) – South Korea will tighten laws governing the arrival of refugees, the Justice Ministry said on Friday, after a rapid rise in the number of Yemeni asylum seekers sparked anti-refugee sentiment in the racially homogeneous country.

    More than 552 people from Yemen arrived on the southern resort island of Jeju between January and May, more than the 430 Yemenis who had ever applied for refugee status in South Korea, the ministry said.

    The country has granted refugee status to just over 800 people since 1994. The sudden surge in Yemeni arrivals has fueled concern that many could be seeking economic advantage rather than protection and that they could lead to an increase in crime and other social problems.

  29. OneWorldGovernment

    cohenite
    #2755525, posted on July 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    Isn’t is funny, hilarious even, that Jim Jordan, who gave Rosenstein the hardest time during the house hearings, is now being accused of covering up, or should have known about the activity of a sexual predator who was on the same staff as Jordan at Ohio State University.

    Strange innit?

    He’s also put his hand up for the Speaker of The House position that the billious Paul Ryan is supposed to be vacating.

    Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan 2012.

    All you need to know.

    Oh. and Uncle Mitt is gunna be senator for Utah in 2018.

  30. zyconoclast

    South Koreans outraged as 500 Yemeni refugees flee to island

    Backlash lays bare islanders’ draconian attitude towards asylum seekers

    For many South Koreans, Europe simply provides a cautionary tale.

    “Look at Germany and Sweden,” said Heo Jin-a, a resident of Jeju, which has a population of about 600,000. “Those countries that accepted refugees experienced heinous crimes. I’m worried such things can happen in our neighbourhoods.” 

  31. calli

    Just heard the Deputy Premier of Victoriastan describe State government as “… the engine* room of the economy”

    I wondered where it went.

  32. Roger

    One of DFAT’s key problems – presumably encouraged or at least acquiesced in by Governments of both stripes – is the pretence that Australia is some sort of world power. This means not only that we get involved in issues that are not our concern, but that we maintain expensive missions all over the world in countries where we have no interest and where the mission staff have nothing to do.

    As I remarked a couple of days ago in reference to growing Chinese influence among south Pacific nations and now Sri Lanka, where China now has a port that can be used to supply naval operations in the Indian ocean, our political leaders imagine Australia to be a “middle power” on the world stage when we can’t even keep our back yard in good order for the sake of the Western alliance.

  33. Peter Campion

    May I say that both our Catallaxy PC’s, Peter Castieau and Peter Campion, write damned fine letters to the newspapers.

    Thank you, hzhousewife.

    Here’s one that made it into regional papers up here this week.

    The Editor

    If the debate around electricity prices and “coal versus renewables” seems confusing, there’s a nifty widget that can help clarify things.

    Go to http://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/reneweconomy/ and an interactive bar graph provides a wealth of information.

    For instance, at 0500 this morning there was zero output from solar, and the other day there was only 16MW from wind.

    That’s a long way from the 30,000+MW* the grid can need.

    Yet we’re repeatedly told we must transition to wind and solar. How? It doesn’t work; it’s too weather-dependent and episodic and the small amount we have has already doubled our bills.

    Large hydro dams are “low emissions”, but get green-blocked anyway. Ditto nuclear.

    Fracked gas is “lower emissions than coal” and is also hated by green-blockers.

    When reliable power goes, so too do the jobs, hospitals and water supplies that depend on it.

    Our coal-fired electricity offers massive net benefits compared to all alternatives. Only greenie ideologues argue that fact.

    Our elected reps are negligent in failing to learn some basic electrical engineering, (which ain’t rocket science) and have been hoodwinked by zealots.

    If you prefer civilisation to ruination put the LNP, ALP and Greens in the last three spots on your next ballot paper.

    (202 words)
    Peter Campion

  34. Boambee John

    DFAT pyramids in Canberra

    Sometimes known as Club Ped, though rather strangely, no-one from there is ever prosecuted for “failing to report”.

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    2020 Uncle Mitt saves the day for the never Trumpers and leads the glorious UniParty Republicans over the rainbow.

  36. egg_

    I wondered where it went.

    “Waving” goodbye.

  37. OneWorldGovernment

    Boambee John
    #2755538, posted on July 5, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    DFAT pyramids in Canberra

    Sometimes known as Club Ped, though rather strangely, no-one from there is ever prosecuted for “failing to report”.

    Shhh. Not a word.

    The stick insect is a perfect fit.

  38. Fisky

    Renowned document forger –

    Dan Rather

    Verified account

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    On this Fourth of July, I refuse to let Donald Trump have the flag of the United States as his own. I refuse to let the best of this nation be debased and weaponized against truth and justice. I refuse to bow to cynicism. #WhatUnitesUs (more thoughts here) https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10160596158115716

  39. Mother Lode

    There is even a beautifully produced video to make it easy to peruse.

    Monty is desperately thumbing a dictionary, hoping the word ‘peruse‘ means ‘make go away‘.

  40. Des Deskperson

    ‘The results showed that overall, de-identifying applications at the shortlisting stage does not appear to assist in promoting diversity within the APS in hiring. Overall, APS officers discriminated in favour of female and minority candidates.’

    I found that study a bit weird.

    For what it’s worth, I’ve sat on scores of APS selection panels and never seen any evidence of this sort of bias in shortlisting.

    According to the author of the report – from an ABC interview – “The trial found assigning a male name to a candidate made them 3.2 per cent less likely to get a job interview. “Adding a woman’s name to a CV made the candidate 2.9 per cent more likely to get a foot in the door.” These low figures, plus the fact that it’s only for shortlisting, makes me wonder whether it has any actual and significant practical bias in the overall selection process.

    The report talks about APS ‘officers’, a term that was abolished by law some 18 years ago. A small slip, maybe, but it makes you wonder about the authors’ professionalism.

    But if the report is dinkum, then current APS selection processes are in clear breach of the merit based selection requirements – an assessment is based on the relationship between the candidates’ work‑related qualities and the work‑related qualities genuinely required to perform the relevant duties –
    set out in the Public service Act, even if the advantage may be miniscule.

    So why are these prima – facie unlawful selection processes still being tolerated?

  41. Makka

    Oh oh;

    In the document, the Beijing-based National Institution for Finance & Development (NIFD) warned the world’s second-largest economy could be headed for danger as bond defaults, liquidity shortages and a recent plunge in financial markets take their place alongside increasing trade tensions with the United States.

    The benchmark Shanghai Composite Index has fallen over 20% since January, leaving the country in a technical bear market. The index is at its lowest level since May 2016, having been at a two-year high earlier in the year.

    The Chinese yuan has also suffered, losing over 6% since March to sit at its weakest level since late 2017.

    “We think China is currently very likely to see a financial panic,” NIFD said in the document, which reportedly appeared online briefly last week before being taken down

    Lowe is paying attention;

    A crisis would impact everything from metals prices and tourism flows to education exports.

    “Among the largest economic risks Australia faces is something going wrong with China,” Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe told a forum at the Australia-China Relations Institute in Sydney recently.

    “China is not only the main destination for Australia’s iron ore and coal but [it has] become the largest destination for a range of food and service exports.

    A crisis would impact everything from metals prices and tourism flows to education exports.

    https://smallcaps.com.au/china-heading-towards-financial-panic-think-tank-papers/

  42. JC

    Hahahahahah That’s a blast from the past. Good ol’ Dan Rather, a Fakenews pioneer.

  43. JC

    You know Fisk, if Trump sees Rather’s tweet, he will clip him with the same thing I said. That you can be sure of.

  44. Makka

    Ok lads, [email protected], murder, kidnapping, theft and all manner of violence that’s all ok BUT, no plastic bags. Tamam?

    The Somali terror group al-Shabaab, known for deadly attacks on thousands of people across east Africa, has banned plastic bags because of the threat they pose to the environment.

    HT/Insty.

  45. Myrddin Seren

    Dan [email protected]

    On this Fourth of July, yadda, yadda, yadda

    Paul Joseph Watson has a few more of these.

    Nobody talks like this. Somebody has to be cranking these ‘fearless’ declarations out and circulating them for ‘celebrity’ distribution.

    #FakeResistance

  46. cohenite

    The point I was implying about Jordan and Rosenstein is that Rosenstein is known for making threats to critics. The timing of the accusations against Jordan is the other point. At this stage we have as possible candidates: Rosenstein abusing his power, RHINOs heading off Jordan and the Speaker seat, Hillary and Fusion.

    Which is it head prefect?

  47. Fisky

    From Wikipedia –

    He currently anchors a newscast called The News with Dan Rather at The Young Turks

    Jaysus, that is some career trajectory, sharing a desk with crazy Cenk Uygur! Hahahahaha

  48. Mother Lode

    Well that’s weird.

    Looking out the office window at the cranes around North Sydney I saw a single flag – an Australian flag.

    Not a single showing the misappropriated flag of Australia’s earliest Small Business’ group.

  49. Viva

    Commentators arguing that Australia should walk away from the Paris agreement are putting the cart before the horse. In all seriousness, alarmists among our decision makers probably need to undergo a form of deprogramming before any rational discussion can take place. Others are constrained by the fact that such a suggestion would be considered just not a respectable position. After all, one would be aligning oneself with Trump!

    Supporters of the status quo genuinely believe we are in a global transition to a new energy world order and if the pathway to it is rough well so be it.

    Ordinary Australians are being held hostage to this mindset and this situation can only end in a terrible reckoning when the house of cards finally collapses. How can the NEG guarantee dispatchable power when it simply is no longer there in sufficient quantity? Proponents are gambling that renewable solutions will be found before the crunch comes. In the meantime they are relying on bluff and soothing noises. National Energy Guarantee has such a reassuring sound to it doesn’t it.

  50. Habib

    I’ll go along as long as the deprogramming involves helicopters and gravity.

  51. H B Bear

    Well the deprogramming can’t involve shocks to the balls because no electricity and no balls.

  52. Fisky

    Max Boot

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    Max Boot Retweeted Byron York
    But of course you’re not offended by Trump locking children in cages, calling for his political opponents to be locked up, attacking our closest allies, kowtowing to Kim Jong Un, etc.

    Obama locked up children, his justice department had Dinesh D’Souza thrown in jail, he actively interfered in Israel’s election, and gave $150 billion to Iran!

  53. Try this (from a Prime Minister & Cabinet study) :

    Right, so the fact cited in that study that women are currently majorly under-represented in APS management positions doesn’t tell you that the study is trash?

    Again, you have very little evidence of anti-white-male discrimination.

  54. jupes

    The Somali terror group al-Shabaab, known for deadly attacks on thousands of people across east Africa, has banned plastic bags because of the threat they pose to the environment.

    That’s got to be satire.

    Surely.

  55. stackja

    Two reasonably informed men I know are unaware of Tennant Creek toddler.
    And TheirABC reports:

    Tennant Creek toddler r pe case allegedly blighted by police mistakes; now-released suspect says he had alibi
    By Steven Schubert
    Updated about 5 hours ago

  56. Some History

    Some History
    #2755283, posted on July 5, 2018 at 9:06 am
    For anyone interested.
    Volume UP.
    Phil Collins Live (1982)
    The awesome Phenix Horns from Earth Wind and Fire.

    There are nice sample tracks at their website (bottom):
    http://thephenixhorns.com

  57. Mother Lode

    In all fairness, it is not hard to understand that some people were delinquent in their criticism of Obama – he seemed to just be giving the worlds longest monologue. He was always talking about himself.

    The only reason he didn’t get into the Guinness Book of Records was because their rule is that repetitions are not counted, so eight years of ‘If if if if I I I I I me me me I I I if if if if…” means they estimated his interminable soliloquy to boil down to 25 minutes of material.

  58. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Chinese yuan has also suffered, losing over 6% since March to sit at its weakest level since late 2017.

    Likely engineered.

    What better way to circumvent US tariffs than by depreciating? That way Chinese goods can still compete as their USD import price fall counteracts the tariff. And US goods are more expensive in yuan. Win-win, if you are a Chinese dictator afraid of mass protests.

  59. Myrddin Seren

    Colour me Surprised.

    Mr Walkaway has a fashionable line of #WalkAway bling.

  60. JC

    132andBush
    #2755585, posted on July 5, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    Hottest FINANCIAL year on record

    FMD

    LOL, they’re going financial year now? I wonder if they realize how clownish that looks.

  61. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2755411, posted on July 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    So, is that the only thing you have got? Because pretty much every other major institution in society is biased towards rich white men.

    List your top 10, Monty.

  62. Boambee John

    Des Deskperson
    #2755548, posted on July 5, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    ‘The results showed that overall, de-identifying applications at the shortlisting stage does not appear to assist in promoting diversity within the APS in hiring. Overall, APS officers discriminated in favour of female and minority candidates.’

    I found that study a bit weird.

    What proportion of APS staff is female? If it is significantly above 50%, do we have a case of “unconscious bias”?

    Same questions might well be asked in relation to university students.

  63. Mother Lode

    Weatherzone is a Fauxfacts thing, isn’t it?

    The ‘Hottest xxxx on Record’ is becoming a cliche, as in its use is more obvious than what it is supposed to communicate.

    You would think that warmies – who would count the bulk of the ‘creatives’ – would be able to come up with something new to strike terror into the hearts of people living the douceur de vivre.

    Perhaps a particularly stark form of interpretive macrame.

  64. Mater

    Right, so the fact cited in that study that women are currently majorly under-represented in APS management positions doesn’t tell you that the study is trash?

    Right, so the fact that, as a result of the study, they are dumping the idea of ‘blind selection’ as it might even up the playing field for white men, doesn’t tell you that lefties are running it and think the result is real?

  65. egg_

    National Energy Guarantee has such a reassuring sound to it doesn’t it.

    From Dodgy Brothers, Mal & Fraud.

  66. JC

    Someone brought up Clem Ford’s insane rant about having a kid and a couple of stray abortions. Her piece was published 4 July. A piece in the New York Times, titled “Let’s Talk About My Abortion (and Yours)” was published 30 June.

    Just wondering where Clem got her inspiration to write about her couple of hoovering 🙂 Awfully coincidental, no?

  67. Mater

    Besides, m0nty, you asked for evidence. You got given credible evidence. Said evidence is infinitely more substantial than that which you have provided to justify YOUR position.

  68. egg_

    From Dodgy Brothers, Mal & Fraud.

    Dodgy Ruinables R Us!

  69. Steve trickler

    The hottest year ever.

    Numbers on paper, a figure…. unable to be felt or distinguished by the human skin, with those compared from 1850.

    Dedicated to the wankers at the BOM.



  70. H B Bear

    Oh noes The Little Reef That Could is really in trouble now. The Green-Left Weekly Radio (now) Half Hour formerly known as The World Today breathlessly reports the latest “research” from the Climate Council, yeah the remnants of Flim Flannery’s defunded quango. Listen here.

    And more of the same – modelling, “could”, “may” 2030s. As usual a decade out, close enough to sound relevant but will be long forgotten by the time. And if you were waiting for an alternative viewpoint – well obviously it’s the ALPBC but we do hear from the panda molesters at the WWF for a bit more gloom and doom. Poor Little Reef.

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    #BREAKING: The Chief Executive of Catholic Social Services Australia, Father Frank Brennan, has been banned from speaking in the Archdiocese of Hobart over his views on same-sex marriage.

    MORE TO COME: https://bit.ly/2BuFqi1

    About bloody time.

  72. H B Bear

    National Energy Guarantee has such a reassuring sound to it doesn’t it.

    From the people who brought you the Fair Work Commission stacked with Liar maaaaaates.

    Orwell would approve.

  73. Eddystone

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8aOcHgbRZw

    Peter Robinson interviews Jim Mattis last May. Talking about the National Defence Strategy, China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, allies and making the US forces more lethal.

  74. Des Deskperson

    What proportion of APS staff is female? If it is significantly above 50%, do we have a case of “unconscious bias”?

    At 30 June 2017, 59% of APS employees were women.

    Women have slightly outnumbered men – around 51% to 49% – in the APS for decades, but women significantly outnumbered men in the clerical/administrative stream. The overall representation shot up in the ‘nineties after many ‘male-oriented’ jobs were outsourced.

    However, women are over-represented at the lower levels. 69.3 % 0f APS4s are women; 61.4% of SES band 2 are men.

    The gender balance among graduate recruits fluctuates from year to year but is generally pretty even.

    There has been steady but not spectacular growth of women at senior levels over the last 10 years, with women rising from 36% to 43% of the SES over that period. Whether this is the result of conscious or unconscious bias I have no idea. My own anecdotal experience is that any bias toward women is matched to a large extent by bias toward a mate from the rugby club.

  75. John Constantine

    Their stabby mcstabface bishop and australias dfat have staunchly defended the island nations of the Pacific against the threat of Trumptopia.

    Unwavering commitment, once these people are bought and paid for, they bloody well stay bought.

  76. List your top 10, Monty.

    I’ll give you five to start with:

    ASX company boards
    Liberal and National Party preselection and cabinet appointments
    VicPol
    Fire services
    University vice-chancellors

  77. egg_

    And more of the same – modelling, “could”, “may” 2030s.

    Dodgy Brothers modelling – guaranteed!

  78. None

    Wilson is guilty of not reporting pedos a few decades ago.

    Wilson is the local Catholic Bishop here. I agree that he has been convicted on the basis of no evidence apparently not reporting something he did not hear 40 years ago. It is almost imperative that he appeal because this is a seriously seriously bad precedent notwithstanding his own right to appeal and his own right to due process. It was interesting that Quadrant pointed to the work of Elizabeth Loftus- a very well known psychologist who was instrumental in getting laws changed im the US to stop the use and abuse of so-called repressed memories to convict innocent people. There is actually a mountain, a mountain of empirical evidence on the unreliability of memory. Memory is notoriously unreliable and notoriously malleable. You also have to remember that Wilson is the Catholic bishop in the diocese which covers the city of Adelaide which is home to fabulous state institutions which totally ignored and in some ways even aided and abetted the abuse and death of children like Chloe Valentine and have never ever call those other people to account. I would say it would be the very same in the judge’s home state. There’s a lot of “look there unicorn” around here. It’s also particularly appalling, disgusting and quite frightening – a total abusive office – that both SA Premier Marshall and p.m. Turnbull have both called on Wilsons resign. I’m not a Catholic by the way and never have been.

  79. monty, monty, monty,

    I can deadlift 2.5 plates per side without much training.

    3 plates plus the bar requires a bit of effort, pyramiding and good technique.

    I can clean and press about 65 kg at the moment.

    I used to be able to do 80 kg in short sets.

    I’m not particularly fit, I just play sport socially.

    How many women can do this (or better?)

    Don’t be stupid with your answers either.

    Now do you want me or Ms Average saving you in a fire?

  80. Anyway, how the f. … are women oppressed by not being firefighters?

    I know. STOP OPPRESSING ME.

  81. Rockdoctor

    I used to lurk on weatherzone and yes it is owned by Fewfacts. About 5 years ago it was good, lots of banter, good info on the meteorological cycles and local knowledge about NQ weather especially in TC Season as well as the AGW stuff I used to just scroll. Moderators were fairly strict but I didn’t think it detracted too much. Now the forum is a shade of it’s former self especially the NQ thread, where a lot of commenters have just disappeared. IMO the problem is they banned discussing AGW but are selective on what they punish especially with anti-AGW comments. I get a lot of my info from Oz Cyclone Chasers now for severe weather but they only do it for a hobby and only really post when something is happening…

  82. Baldrick

    This one’s for Tom. I know he’ll be excited-

    Sharri Markson ✔ @SharriMarkson
    I’m hosting Peta Credlin’s nightly show for the next week while she is overseas. Join me today at 6pm on @SkyNewsAust.

  83. min

    Dermatologist tells me I have great skin for my age , old enough to be Lisa wilkinson ‘s mum, so do friends. However I have not had the benefits of her money, skincare massages etc and I am fair skinned and blue eyed,but happy to tell you I use Sorbelene and sunscreen every day as advised by dermatologist years ago.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How many women can do this (or better?)

    I hate gyms. Go occasionally with Da Hairy Ape. I can lift things with 5kg and 10kg on them.
    Not much else. We are constructed to be able at the most to hoik around a toddler on our hips and walk quite a distance searching for yams. Anything else is a stretch too far for us, imho, and stops menstruation.

  85. None

    About bloody time.

    Hooray. People like father Brennan who sucks off the church and sucked off the resources and reputation of the church yet clearly doesn’t believe church teaching and can’t be arsed supporting it it’s free to leave the church and in fact should be encouraged to do so. It’s about time the Catholic Church just started defrocking apostates. Moreover all the screaming Banshees who cried hypocrite at Barnaby Joyce should remember that Brennan is the family friend and priest that did not do anything to help save that marriage and even when called in by the wife had no personal moral authority to pronounce on marriage himself having been such an apostate on that matter for so many years. I’m not a Catholic but I’m actually happy at the news that finally some Catholics are getting serious about being Catholic.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I can add too that a 23kg suitcase is quite an effort for me; Hairy mostly does those.

  87. Boambee John

    Snoopy
    #2755587, posted on July 5, 2018 at 2:22 pm
    m0nty
    #2755411, posted on July 5, 2018 at 11:32 am

    So, is that the only thing you have got? Because pretty much every other major institution in society is biased towards rich white men.

    List your top 10, Monty.

    Tge reactionary lackey statts his list:

    Family Court, no, damn, I already conceded that one.

    Teaching, no maybe not.

    Nursing, all those white male matrons ruling the roost. Hmm, perhaps not.

    ???

  88. Mother Lode

    However, women are over-represented at the lower levels. 69.3 % 0f APS4s are women; 61.4% of SES band 2 are men.

    The senior levels you would expect to have a higher proportion of men because the when their generation joined the affirmative action policies would have been absent, or at lease nascent.

    The single charm of a age rather than merit based promotion is that the seniority serves as a proxy for duration – like tree rings.

    The change in male/female distribution then just underscores the extent to which women are being preferred.

    But it isn’t just men/women. The claim referred to white men.

    In the APS, do white guys win jobs in that same proportion as they exist in the general population?

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    M0nty takes no notice at all of the real issue in relative employment numbers of men and women: why on earth would most women aspire to belong to the senior numbers in the APS? Most women are busy elsewhere with children and happy to be so, and in less stressful occupations. I have high flying women friends who work in situations where their husbands (yes, they have husbands in these high echelons, not shack ups) also work as high flyers, husbands and fathers who desperately try to take their share of minding the kids when they are sick. But guess what? The mums want to be home with their sick kids far more than dads do? Mums worry all day at work about their sick kids although dads don’t. We are different.

  90. Dot, your claimed transmogrification into Elsternwick’s answer to The Situation is completely without credibility.

  91. Mums worry all day at work about their sick kids although dads don’t. We are different.

    Bullshit, Lizzie.

  92. Boambee John

    ASX company boards

    That bloke who chaired the board of AMP did so well before the Banking RC, I was astonished that he resigned. Wait, what? It wasn’t a bloke?

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Women think, and fret over things, in a networked mind. Men compartmentalize. That video put up on the Cat about while ago about that very real emotional division got so many knowing laughs from the women in the audience; and sheepish agreement from their menfolk too.

  94. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Crap to you too, M0nty.
    I have had longer experience (four kids and two husbands) than you on this. 🙂

  95. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    hahaha – forgot to add that I’ve been female for far longer than you have, M0nts.
    A once-was-high-flyer who decided to roost.

  96. johanna

    Just got back from my local Woolies and I’ve never seen the place so empty. Not kidding, there were whole aisles with nobody in them, checkout chicks twiddling their thumbs. Maybe the punters are voting with their feet about the stupid bag ban.

    Funnily enough, they gave me a bag, a very heavy plastic one with handles, for free. Apparently the blowback on Day 1 was so bad they have put in a ‘transitional period’.

    Meanwhile, I read on TheirABC that their surveys indicate that more than 85% of people favour the ban.

    What, not 97%? They are slipping.

  97. Lizzie: your anecdote is not data. I get that your schtick is playing Venus to your bloke’s Mars, but not everyone thinks like that.

  98. Boambee John

    Bullshit, Lizzie.

    Yet another cogently argued riposte from the reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment!

  99. Oh come on

    Lizzie, bear in mind that m0nty is currently transitioning, so his mileage may vary moreso than usual.

  100. Steve trickler

    She is still alive.



  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve just had a thought, JC must ask at his next father-son steak luncheon with M0nts.
    Is your wife the main income earner now, off to work daily, Monty, with you mainly minding the kids at home beside your footballing computer? So you just know what a great dad you are? If so, good on you. Househusbands and Mr. Mums rule in the ‘give the kids non-gendered toys’ set of beta-males.

    It is not the way most men roll though and it isn’t all due to culture or circumstances.

  102. Huh? There is nothing remarkable about my rather ordinary physical fitness monty.

    Women simply on average and as a population are not as strong as men.

    There is nothing shameful about this. It is just biology and equality of outcome applied to the situation would reduce the efficacy of the metropolitan fire brigades.

    Nothing wrong with women in the service, but they are simply less likely to make the grade.

    No do you want me or Ms Average to pull a burning and heavy roof joist off you?

    The idea that your preservation mechanism is oppressive against women serves only to underly a desire of yours to be killed off for some imagined penance you owe no one.

    Why the male guilt monty? You’ve done nothing wrong.

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie: your anecdote is not data.

    And your ‘data’ is anecdote and fashion put into ‘feminist studies’.
    I prefer where mine ends up.
    There are many good ethological and psychological studies showing much gender difference.
    Between TWO genders.

  104. Oh come on

    I will say that, if my kid’s sick and can’t go to school, there is some rapid before-work calculating done with the Mrs regarding who stays home to look after the kid, based on optimal use of sick/carer’s leave and sometimes what is going on at our respective workplaces.

    If I go to work, I don’t really think (let alone worry) about my sick child as I know they’re in good hands. Maybe a text message to the Mrs during lunch for an update, but when I’m working, I’m working. Do women worry more about their sick children while they’re at work? I have no idea.

  105. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Funnily enough, they gave me a bag, a very heavy plastic one with handles, for free. Apparently the blowback on Day 1 was so bad they have put in a ‘transitional period’.

    Coles did this for their ‘first fortnight bagless’ and so Woolies is being forced to follow.

    Welcome to the Great Plastic Bag Wars of the Supermarket Giants. Like a Nordic myth, lol.

  106. Who is saying actionable things now?

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/07/05/hanson-young-defamation-leyonhjelm/

    Senator Hanson-Young alleges Senator Leyonhjelm’s actions were for his “own self-seeking publicity and self-aggrandisement”, the letter reportedly stated.

    How so? Unless he knew precisely how it would blow up? Then I’d like to know next week’s Lotto number’s, Dave.

  107. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do women worry more about their sick children while they’re at work? I have no idea.

    Of course you don’t. The answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

  108. Oh come on

    Okay, sounds perfectly plausible to me. In all honesty, I’ve never thought about it before.

  109. Nick

    Apologies if it’s already been discussed, though if Cats haven’t seen it, I do heartily recommend Jonathan Pie’s latest rant about oppression:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_bI789Gog

  110. Here’s the thing. Hanson Young is probably bluffing or does not know what actually happens.

    Say DL gets advised to ask for security for costs.

    What has she got to stump up? In NSW, non-economic defamation is capped at a quarter mil, IIRC.

    What kind of economic loss is she going to claim?

    What she is asking for is a large legal bill and in my opinion, the right to bully and harass but without anyone having the volition to stick it back to her.

    Hunch was trying to use it against DL, but he confirmed that his assertion about the comment Hanson Young made (but denies making) was basically correct. The comments on Sky where he noted she was auditioning for husband no. 2 were of trivial damage – unless a Court declares we have the worst of “Victorian” morality and judgmentalness in society now.

    The situation is sad, hilarious and bizarre.

  111. Boambee John

    Des D

    Your earlier commrnt on the ethical standards required of selection committees in the APS showed two things about you.

    First, the high ethical standards to which you hold yourself.

    Second, your touching faith that all other public servants hold themselves to the same standards.

    I am yet to be convinced that point 2 is justified. As Exhibit A for the contra case, I mention the ATO Deputy Commissioner (Jordan?) who bent the rules to benefit his family, and the two Assistant Commissioners who assisted him.

    By the by, whatever happened to that choice threesome?

  112. JC

    Monster, just because you believe you’re a woman now doesn’t mean you need to act all bitchy, if you know what I mean.

  113. Roger

    Can you be guilty under mandatory reporting legislation passed in 1995 for inaction in 1970? Or is it deemed that he should have reported 25 year old allegations as soon as the legislation passed?

    This was nothing to do with mandatory reporting; Wilson was charged and found guilty of concealing an indictable offence (NSW Crimes Act 1900, Sect. 316 (1); the old misprision of a felony) because, subject to a complaint, an investigation found he failed to report to NSW police, between 2004-2006, information he was privy to regarding alleged sexual offences committed by the priest, Jim Fletcher, against two altar boys in the 1970s (Fletcher was first charged in 2004 & died in prison, 2006, hence the dates).

  114. Des Deskperson

    ‘The senior levels you would expect to have a higher proportion of men because the when their generation joined the affirmative action policies would have been absent, or at lease nascent.’

    Not so. For starters, there are no affirmative action policies in the APS, except for Indigenous recruitment.

    Robust EEO/diversity policies and programmes have been around in the APS since the mid eighties. Many of not most of the men in now the SES would have spent their entire career under these regimes. They don’t seem to have been much hindered by them

    ‘The change in male/female distribution then just underscores the extent to which women are being preferred.’

    A good indication of whether gender preference exists in the APS are the graduate recruitment figure, bearing in mind that these are the people being groomed for the top, so if women were being significantly preferred, one would expect that this is where it would start.

    While figures vary over individual years, over the last 4 years to June 2017, 49.7% of graduate recruits have been male and 53.3% – of course – female.

    ‘In the APS, do white guys win jobs in that same proportion as they exist in the general population?’

    So far as I know, no-one collects workplace demographic data on the basis of skin colour. The proportion of Indigenous employees in the APS – 3.2% -is about the same as their overall level in the population.

  115. notafan

    Monty is right.

    We need more five foot two hundred pound weaklings to tackle the growing problem of out of control African youths.

    Just give them tasers and guns to even the odds.

    What could go wrong?

  116. Pedro the Ignorant

    Local Coles lady at the self serve checkout is getting sick of being grumped at by customers attempting to load their groceries into their take-along bags and getting error messages from the robot checkout chick because the scale thinks the bag is a banana or something.

    She went and shouted at the store boss who just threw his hands up and denied any responsibility for the stupid bag ban. “It was Head Office” quoth he.

  117. Roger

    Funnily enough, they gave me a bag, a very heavy plastic one with handles, for free. Apparently the blowback on Day 1 was so bad they have put in a ‘transitional period’.

    If your experience is anything like mine, j., you’ll find the “reusable” bags exhibit holes after a couple of uses which then develop into tears.

    Not fit for purpose, into land fill (or worse, waterways!) they go.

    This hasn’t been thought through very well.

  118. Holy shit.

    From Count Dankula’s “State of the UK” video:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/british-man-arrested-for-wielding-potato-peeler/

    He faces a maximum penalty of four years incarceration.

  119. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2755627, posted on July 5, 2018 at 3:41 pm
    Lizzie: your anecdote is not data.

    Neither is your Family Court anecdote?

  120. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I get that your schtick is playing Venus to your bloke’s Mars,

    Goodness, M0nty. Venus and Mars don’t just play together in the bedroom.
    Do you have to have a ‘schtick’ now for being a woman who enjoys living with a man?
    Haven’t you ever wondered why that ole heteronormativity goes on everywhere?

  121. cohenite

    I can clean and press about 65 kg at the moment

    Genius!

    What do you bench press?

  122. M0nte, the Family Court represents the tip of the anti-male iceberg that floats (I typo’d gloats at first, but that fits too) in the sea of Marxist feminism that has engulfed all of the institutions of our societies since the 1960’s

    More boilerplate bullshit from you, Lizzie.

    You made your own life choices, and good for you because you are obviously happy with your role. Some women aspire to different goals. Society makes it an easier road for you to travel than them.

    It takes all types in society, and discouraging those who want to contribute economically is bad for the country.

  123. JC

    Some women aspire to different goals.

    You’ve never spoken about your own aspirations, Monst. Tell us, your friends.

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

    It’s even worse when they are babies and toddlers.
    So hard to leave them, even if in others’ loving arms.

  125. I want to know what these “lewd markings” are.

    It was a drawing of Chris Kenny rooting a dog, so he should get off.

    They change their principles like they change their underwear.

    Which is to say, every 3 or 4 weeks.

  126. cohenite

    My bench will never be good. My best is only 110 kg. Clean and press is what I’m good at.

    Shame, shame shame.

    The scary thing thinks that I’m making this stuff up. I’m not musclebound or anything like that.

    I stopped playing rugby a while back. Most guys in the scrum after half a season of training, even in suburban social and reserve grades will be fitter than myself.

    Most women will never be this strong. monty thinks this means a lack of women in the Vic MFB is an example of white male privilege (why don’t more Sudanese immigrants sign up – we’re not stopping them).

    It is just biology. I am all for merit but I’ll be damned if I agree to equality of outcome endangering lives.

  127. egg_

    Househusbands and Mr. Mums rule in the ‘give the kids non-gendered toys’ set of beta-males.

    M0nster even wears an Edgar J. Hoover frock?

  128. The VicPol and firie examples were not necessarily about gender ratios, but the rampant culture of sexist behaviour by males in those institutions, which is very well documented.

  129. It takes all types in society, and discouraging those who want to contribute economically is bad for the country.

    Sure monty, but production and exchange are facilitated by a degree of equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome at any cost.

  130. He faces a maximum penalty of four years incarceration.

    What’s the penalty for brandishing a loaded wet lettuce leaf?

    Asking for Muttley.

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Society makes it an easier road for you to travel than them.

    ‘society’ didn’t make any road for me, M0nts, I made it for myself. Let’s Margaret Thatcher that one.

    I am not arguing against legal equality for women in employment as elsewhere. Given that, capable women will always get recognized. As I was, with numerous male colleagues glad to help for no other reason than they thought I had talent. Quotas are counter-productive to recognition of capable women; know that. Also know that we find one road easier than another, often for reasons to do with our children.

  132. duncanm

    More on that interview above – its a corker.. a sample

    I think you’re mischaracterising it as sexist abuse, when its just abuse…

  133. Makka

    but the rampant culture of sexist behaviour by males in those institutions, which is very well documented.

    Listen to yourself, you inadequate cucked leftist mOron. Pathetic. Get back to doing the ironing ffs.

  134. Herodotus

    James Patterson:
    “One thing which I’d be very wary of would be further government interventions in the energy market that are interventionist …”
    Fine, as long as you scrap all the previous interventions. Now.

  135. Herodotus

    More boilerplate bullshit from you …
    Says the rakemeister.

  136. Delta A

    The VicPol and firie examples were not necessarily about gender ratios, but the rampant culture of sexist behaviour by males in those institutions

    I pray that, if ever I am in need of a firie or a plod, a big, burly male turns up to help me. I don’t care how sexist or politically incorrect he is at the station. At the scene of crisis I want full on, aggro brawn.

  137. Delta A

    Furthermore, female employees should be restricted to police station offices and tea room, not in the action.

  138. #BREAKING: The Chief Executive of Catholic Social Services Australia, Father Frank Brennan, has been banned from speaking in the Archdiocese of Hobart over his views on same-sex marriage.

    Well done, Archbishop Porteous.

  139. slackster

    Always liked this 15 second video showing the relative difference between men and women’s strength in the real world:

    https://youtu.be/1XGDX3wjexY

  140. johanna

    If women got to even 50/50 at senior levels of the APS it would probably be reverse discrimination.

    When I was there, a disproportionate percentage of the women at senior levels were single. Married women (a) took time off to have kids and (b) took time off once they had kids. They wanted to knock off at a fixed time, take their holidays during school holidays, took time off when the kids were sick, yada yada. Now, that’s fine at lower levels, but as you get closer to the top, unsociable and long hours go with the job.

    Even at middle management level, in a policy job with constant contact with the Minister’s office I could never predict when I could knock off, although it was never before 6 pm. Working nights and weekends was a requirement at unpredictable times.

    Short of women with kids outsourcing raising their children on a 24/7 basis, or having a stay at home spouse/partner, they are always going to be lesser performers in these kinds of jobs. I don’t see why they deserve to be promoted over those who perform better, especially given that it is taxpayers’ money.

  141. Makka

    The jellyback LNP are more concerned with the exposure of their secret dealings to stitch us up than getting our energy costs down where they should be;

    A damaging split has intensified in the Coalition over energy policy as MPs rail against Malcolm Turnbull’s signature National Energy Guarantee, prompting complaints about an “incredibly frustrating” level of leaking and disunity.

    Former prime minister Tony Abbott set the stage for the outbreak with a speech calling for Australia to abandon the Paris climate agreement he signed up to as prime minister, while outspoken Nationals MP George Christensen joined Mr Abbott in threatening to cross the floor and vote against the NEG.

  142. egg_

    “One thing which I’d be very wary of would be further government interventions in the energy market that are interventionist …”

    Are “fossil fuels” truly depositional, when methane and other hydrocarbons seem to be being spontaneously produced along mid ocean ridge hydrothermal vents, the source of CO2?

  143. Allen

    If a restaurant handled food the way that the supermarkets now do, they would be closed down

  144. Roger

    Well done, Archbishop Porteous.

    Indeed, but to get to the nub of the problem, why hasn’t the Jesuit Provincial done the same?

  145. cohenite

    Oh ok, I thought this was a discussion about weight lifting; it’s just about that shithead. I don’t know why you bother.

  146. Delta A

    A damaging split has intensified in the Coalition over energy policy as MPs rail against Malcolm Turnbull’s signature National Energy Guarantee

    Last I read about this, (in The $Oz today,) everyone was backing the waffling fop and railing against Tony Abbott.

    Who would have thought The $Oz might print fake news?

  147. roger

    You concern trollololo the Micks here pretty hard.

    Give it a rest or you might turn into a Dawkins.

    If you’re not a Catholic, why give ten shits about what ‘da Jesuits’ do? None of us really care.

    I dunno maybe you’re new to the church and you’re *that guy* who joins the parish committee tells the parish priest what his electricity budget is for the quarter, to the nearest half of a cent.

  148. Indeed, but to get to the nub of the problem, why hasn’t the Jesuit Provincial done the same?

    Probably no different, Roger, sad to say.

  149. Roger

    If you’re not a Catholic, why give ten shits about what ‘da Jesuits’ do? None of us really care.

    Quite simply, because these days what one church body does inevitably effects others.

    The collapse of doctrinal discipline in the Catholic Church does not make it any easier for Anglicans concerned with halting our own slide into heresy.

    By the same token, the statement of the Australian Anglican bishops on same sex marriage, while it holds, may encourage Catholics contending with the likes of Fr. Brennan.

  150. Tom

    Whatever happened to the Wymmyses Who Want To Be Wymmynses movement? I’m guessing it was crushed under Stalin’s jackboot by the 20% of wymmynses volunteering for the Feminist Child-Murderers Regiment for the Glory of the Revolution.

  151. Farmer Gez

    A woman is assaulted outside Dumb Dan’s safe injecting rooms in Melb.
    She was taking photos. Junkie dealers don’t like that sort of thing.

  152. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Frank, you’re new here, so firstly stop harassing the regulars and secondly, as previously mentioned on this god forsaken website, the gayest thing on earth is men talking about how much they can jerk and how big their snatch is.

  153. Perfidious Albino

    The Old Man had a blackout in his bathroom recently (misread the dosage for some new meds). Fortunately a sibling was present to hear him go down and called an ambulance, which arrived quickly. All girl crew and they didn’t have the strength or means to lift him onto a stretcher nor even put him in the recovery position. He would have been a dead-weight, but is not particularly overweight. They had to call and wait for a second ambulance to arrive, so ultimately it took 2 x 2 ambulance crews to resolve. Farcical.

  154. Leo G

    Even at middle management level, in a policy job with constant contact with the Minister’s office I could never predict when I could knock off, although it was never before 6 pm. Working nights and weekends was a requirement at unpredictable times.

    You describe workplace conditions which are highly discriminatory according to gender stratified by household situation and which have been innapropriately addressed with even more discriminatory “affirmative action” policies.

  155. Eyrie

    “but as you get closer to the top, unsociable and long hours go with the job.”
    Really, in the APS? Nothing they do is important so why not do it tomorrow?

  156. Boambee John

    prompting complaints about an “incredibly frustrating” level of leaking and disunity.

    And who better to complain about leaking and disunity than Malturd and Skeletor.

    Perhaps they forget their own activities between late 2009 and 2015?

  157. amortiser

    Leyonhjelm:
    “My bill addresses two issues: territory rights, and the right to die. I am a firm believer in both.”

    What right to die? This is the inevitable end for everyone and not something to be protected like the right to one’s life, property or Liberty.

    Somehow I would like them to take away my right to die!!

  158. H B Bear

    Australia: Employment change by business size (2007-2016). (H/T IPA).

    You know who – Big Business, Big Government and Big Union again.

    Seriously, who in their right mind would start a small business in Australia? Talk to a few business owners and you’ll meet more than a few who are looking to give it away as it simply isn’t worth the effort. The death of retail stores isn’t helping matters either.

  159. Speedbox

    Somehow I would like them to take away my right to die!!

    Me too. I’m not scared of dying but I hope to delay that time as long as possible. If my “right to die” can be withdrawn, that suits me fine (assuming I can also retain a reasonable degree of health).

  160. Peter Campion

    I pray that, if ever I am in need of a firie or a plod, a big, burly male turns up to help me. I don’t care how sexist or politically incorrect he is at the station. At the scene of crisis I want full on, aggro brawn.

    I’m a retired career firie. In full turnout gear plus breathing apparatus I weighed 125kg. My first question to female firies was always, “Could you carry me down a ladder?”

    I never did get a satisfactory response.

  161. stackja

    Roger
    #2755651, posted on July 5, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Someone said that someone said that something happened 40 years ago. What 1970s something else will be supposedly remembered? Who really remembers such distant occurrences completely?

  162. calli

    You gym skites! I can do a mighty 14kg on the shoulder press in two sets of ten. Then I want to die.

    And 46kg on the machine I call Natalia (h/t James Bond). Then there’s the one for bingo wings and boobs – 14kg easy.

    Best fun I’ve had in years. /spacechook

  163. Steve trickler

    A nice walk down Memory Lane.



  164. calli

    Careful, Steve. Linking Enigma will have Stimps after you with a pitchfork. 😄

  165. Delta A

    I’m a retired career firie.

    Please, can you give me your number, Peter? Just in case. 🙂

  166. thefrolickingmole

    m0nty

    stop being obtuse.

    https://www.womenscommunityshelters.org.au/what-we-do/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11787304/Homelessness-is-a-gendered-issue-and-it-mostly-impacts-men.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Edward_Memorial_Hospital_for_Women

    And the best one, the anti discrimination agency that explicitly endorses discrimination.

    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/quick-guide/12047

    Now either click on each of those links, peruse and leave a rebuttal or admit there might be a teensy, weency bit of an imbalance in gender pandering.

    Reblog: Research find that as a group, only men pay tax

    Economically, women cost more to the state than they benefit. The government is literally paying women to be alive. As such, strong independent women are only that way because the state is transferring money from men to them. Feminists are not seriously against being dependent on men, they are just against men having the full control over their money.

    and contrast with this queef from the gruinaid
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/06/men-to-receive-almost-two-thirds-of-coalition-tax-cuts-after-10-years

  167. calli

    Oops. Not Natalia. She was the nice one.

    Xenia.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    Frank Walker from National Tiles
    #2755669, posted on July 5, 2018 at 4:21 pm
    cohenite
    My bench will never be good. My best is only 110 kg. Clean and press is what I’m good at.

    If you want to discuss washing and ironing (or any other ladies jobs for that matter) you need to go somewhere else. This is not that sort of blog.

  169. Speedbox

    Owning a small retail business (or even a large one – just ask Myers) is bloody hard yakka. People are fickle and the internet has allowed all to buy the same product cheaper on-line.

    I remember a few years ago, a major jeans retailer undertook a store survey. They found that their walk-in customer traffic was up due to aggressive advertising and in-store promotions. But, the conversion of those walk-in customers to actual sales was slipping. Why? The customers would try on the garments, note the jean model type and size, and then go home and order them on-line.

  170. thefrolickingmole

    2nd part.
    And the best one, the anti discrimination agency that explicitly endorses discrimination.

    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/quick-guide/12047

    Now either click on each of those links, peruse and leave a rebuttal or admit there might be a teensy, weency bit of an imbalance in gender pandering.

    Reblog: Research find that as a group, only men pay tax

    Economically, women cost more to the state than they benefit. The government is literally paying women to be alive. As such, strong independent women are only that way because the state is transferring money from men to them. Feminists are not seriously against being dependent on men, they are just against men having the full control over their money.

    and contrast with this queef from the gruinaid
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/06/men-to-receive-almost-two-thirds-of-coalition-tax-cuts-after-10-years

  171. mc

    Holy shit.

    From Count Dankula’s “State of the UK” video:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/british-man-arrested-for-wielding-potato-peeler/

    He faces a maximum penalty of four years incarceration.

  172. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the rampant culture of sexist behaviour by males in those institutions

    Men who put their lives on the line together tend to bond in male ways. Having just watched Band of Brothers and known (as friends! as friends!)I can assure you of that. Firies and police do that too, hindered today by a lot of top down sissifying. They still do it in the secret brotherhoods of two and three though. And, like many real soldiers elsewhere, they resent having to resort to such subterfuge.

    Out of my way now, M0nts, I’ve just returned from a power walk and I might get dangerous. 😉

  173. mc

    sorry..meant to link this to the man arrested for having a potato peeler

  174. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    known a few. lol.

  175. Entropy

    Eyrie
    #2755704, posted on July 5, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    “but as you get closer to the top, unsociable and long hours go with the job.”
    Really, in the APS? Nothing they do is important so why not do it tomorrow?

    Believe it or not senior public servants fall into two groups, either sociopathic narcissists or hardworking dedicated public servants. While clearly it is best to work for the second group, what they both have in common is a preparedness to work the hours it takes.

    Whether it is important or not is an entirely different question. I suspect often it isn’t, although it seems to contain the meaning of life to the dedicated.

    Often it is some clusterf* instigated by the wet behind the ears and ignorant “ministerial adviser” , or sometimes just some other garden variety stuff up. Usually it is because there actually is a lot to do, particularly for those with a rep of the one that gets things done, or have content knowledge (these ones of course are also hated by the sociopathic narcissists).
    I find it a good calming strategy to remind them that on their retirement it is very unlikely they will select this particular little crisis de jour to reflect on in their going away speech.

  176. Des Deskperson

    ‘I am yet to be convinced that point 2 is justified. As Exhibit A for the contra case, I mention the ATO Deputy Commissioner (Jordan?) who bent the rules to benefit his family, and the two Assistant Commissioners who assisted him.’

    A good point, John, although I suspect that the uniquely closed and cronyist culture was a factor in the Cranston case.

    So far as I am aware:

    Cranston pleaded guilty but I can’t immediately find anything about his sentence. The crime carries a statutory penalty of 10 years, although the courts have, I understand, some discretion to vary this.

    Following an independent investigation by former FW Commissioner Barbara Deegan – someone whose integrity I respect – the other two were ‘disciplined’. One was moved sideways which may have involved a reduction in his salary within the SES band. I dunno about the other. ATO people I know are very tight-lipped about it all.

    And I love this ATO media release, made just a few months before Cranston’s fall:

    https://www.ato.gov.au/Media-centre/Media-releases/Two-tax-agents-sentenced-for-fraud/

    where he lays down the law against tax fraud:

    “As tax agents, these people should have known better, and clearly understood that they were breaking the law. If you willingly try to cheat the tax system we will make sure you face the consequences of your actions,” Mr Cranston said.

    “You can’t hide from the ATO. We have sophisticated systems in place to detect this kind of activity and work closely with law enforcement partners to share data and investigate tax fraud and crime.”

    A hypocrite of sociopathic proportions.

  177. H B Bear

    Then there’s the one for bingo wings and boobs – 14kg easy.

    Make a note mUnty. You want to look your best for your date with JC.

  178. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But, the conversion of those walk-in customers to actual sales was slipping. Why? The customers would try on the garments, note the jean model type and size, and then go home and order them on-line.

    I can see pay-to-use changerooms coming to a clothing store near you soon. Or even pay-to-enter stores. Because nothing beats seeing and trying the garments before you buy. Otherwise you might end up with a wardrobe full of unwearable sizings.

  179. thefrolickingmole

    First flog is at stage 10 of his 500 stage mental breakdown.
    Id almost like to see Mal Termite win the election to see if he completely breaks.

    Fascism is coming
    First Dog on the Moon

    The wonderful thing is hes exactly as happy as he deserves to be if this cartoon is anything to go by.

  180. DrBeauGan

    M0nty, it would be a mistake to draw too heavily on your experience of being a man.

  181. Oh come on

    You missed the Adonis Rippling thread. Get a load of this.

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2017/11/22/wednesday-forum-november-22-2017/comment-page-8/#comment-2565083

    LOL that one’s almost as brutal as the American Thinker ripoff thread. Funnier, too.

  182. cohenite

    Holy shit.

    From Count Dankula’s “State of the UK” video:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/british-man-arrested-for-wielding-potato-peeler/

    He faces a maximum penalty of four years incarceration.

    Well, at least he won’t starve.

  183. johanna

    More diversity and compassion at work.

    A Tasmanian man has been found guilty of raping an elderly woman during a break-in at Launceston three years ago.

    Christo Brown from Launceston was accused of sexually assaulting the 76-year-old and demanding $250 in cash in July 2015, when he was 18 years old.

    The prosecution said its case was largely circumstantial, apart from DNA found on the victim’s nightie that matched Mr Brown’s DNA profile.

    But Mr Brown’s defence lawyer, Alan Hensley, argued the DNA could have been transferred there from a secondary source and did not necessarily mean Mr Brown was in the room.

    He argued the fact that the victim’s description of her attacker did not match Mr Brown and exonerated his client.

    Both the prosecution and the defence agreed the break-in and rape had taken place, and said the key issue was the identity of the attacker.

    Have a look at the picture of this ‘Tasmanian.’ He is an African, probably admitted as a so-called refugee.

    Interesting that TheirABC made a point of describing someone who committed a crime in Tasmania as a ‘Tasmanian.’ Like that was so unusual, it had to be highlighted.

    Hmmm.

  184. Peter Campion

    Please, can you give me your number, Peter? Just in case.

    Haha, it’s not as difficult as you might think to get someone over your shoulder and to climb out a window and onto a ladder. The trick is you take the casualty out feet first. That way when they can see the drop below and start panicking you’re already on the ladder and beginning to descend.

    It rarely happens though. I only ever did it in training – never at a working fire.

  185. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All girl crew and they didn’t have the strength or means to lift him onto a stretcher nor even put him in the recovery position

    Yes. Remember the video put up here showing two Swedish women police unable to hold down a miscreant even after a bloke had rugby tackled him to the ground for them. They stood around helplessly phoning for help.

    I’m with Delta.
    Big burly males as firies and determined fierce male fighters between me and an Islamic insurgent.

  186. Geriatric Mayfly

    First Dog on the Moon

    Are those childish drawings necessary? Why doesn’t he simply write all that abstruse mumbo jumbo out on a sheet of A4 and hand it into the subs for publication?

  187. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    apart from DNA found on the victim’s nightie that matched Mr Brown’s DNA profile.

    Elderly ladies are tremendously prone to getting the DNA of teenage African males on their nighties.
    We all know that.

  188. Mater

    As for women in front line roles, forget about whether they can run as fast or carry as much.

    The essential question is:
    Are they, physically and psychologically, capable of staving in a man’s head using an Entrench Tool in hand to hand combat.

    If the answer is no, they don’t belong there.
    If the answer is yes, we have bigger social issues than equality…and the bruhaha surrounding only men’s violent tendencies, needs to be revisited.

    Personally, having seen quite a number reel at the sight of an animal being euthanised, I would say they are not suited.

  189. Oh come on

    I don’t think there is anything more useless than bignoting yourself anonymously on the internet.

    I mean, bignoting yourself when people can see you’re full of shit* is a bad idea, but doing it on the internet anonymously is really freaking bizarre. You may as well cut to the chase and declare you have a personality disorder.

    *dishonesty being a definitive element of bignoting

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    I can see pay-to-use changerooms coming to a clothing store near you soon. O

    $50 to try on ski-boots, so I have been told.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Slackster, that fifteen sec video should be sent to all military, police and firie recruiting services; also shared around widely. I’ve never seen a better representation of our differences right down to the dubious mental halting at the task that the girls displayed. Didya see that brachiating male hitch himself up and over that fence? The toughest trained virilised lezzo might just (perhaps) be able to manage it but not with the same ease, grace and speed. Good one. Oestrogens R Us.

  192. calli

    I don’t think there is anything more useless than bignoting yourself anonymously on the internet.

    So you can’t shoulder press a gargantuan 14kg? 😄

  193. max

    Does anyone here have any theories about the second Novichok incident in the UK ? Deliberate release ?

  194. johanna

    Eyrie
    #2755704, posted on July 5, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    “but as you get closer to the top, unsociable and long hours go with the job.”
    Really, in the APS? Nothing they do is important so why not do it tomorrow?

    Tell that to the Minister and his/her staff, and see how you go.

    It can be time sensitive, for example if an issue blows up and the Minister needs answers before Question Time tomorrow.

    And if you think the micro-aggressions crowd are sensitive, try a Minister whose staff has seen something vaguely critical in the Woop-woop Advertertorial, incorporating the Lower Woop woop Farmer, Grazier, Undertaker and Piggery Owners’ Gazette.

  195. jupes

    The essential question is:
    Are they, physically and psychologically, capable of staving in a man’s head using an Entrench Tool in hand to hand combat.

    The other essential question is:
    Is it ethical for men to send women into hand to hand combat against men?

  196. Tom

    Believe it or not senior public servants fall into two groups, either sociopathic narcissists or hardworking dedicated public servants.

    Thank you, Entropy. That’s quite illuminating — in view of the Big Government betamale sociopathic narcissist who has insinuated himself into Doomlord’s pants as his pet troll.
    .

  197. JC

    I’ve always wondered how could the country possibly function without our dedicated and enormously hardworking public servants in Canberra. I can’t imagine who it would be possible.

    In fact, business and commerce aren’t the wealth generators. It’s the Canberra APS’ers who are responsible for our high living standards. Thank God we have them.

  198. 132andBush

    The toughest trained virilised lezzo might just (perhaps) be able to manage it but not with the same ease, grace and speed. Good one. Oestrogens R Us.

    Yeah, give it a go monty!

  199. Death Giraffe

    Personally, having seen quite a number reel at the sight of an animal being euthanised, I would say they are not suited.

    ..
    I remember the first rat dissection class I ran twenty one years ago.
    The sight of a year eight girl delightedly sawing off the critter’s nose for no particular good reason makes me think you are wrong about the psychological part, but not the physical one. Girls are far more ruthless and cruel than blokes, on average.
    They just can’t physically carry out their diabolical plans most of the time.
    If they could, we would all be seriously fucked.

  200. Geriatric Mayfly

    The 25 Most Bad-Ass Action Movie Quotes of All Time

    At PJMedia for those who may be interested.

  201. thefrolickingmole

    Gilliam is about to become an un-prson.

    Gilliam was commenting on the row over diversity triggered by the BBC’s unveiling of its new comedy programming, announced in June, at which the BBC’s controller of comedy commissioning Shane Allen emphasised the corporation’s commitment to “the stories that haven’t been told and the voices we haven’t yet heard”. In response to a question about Monty Python’s Flying Circus, Allen said: “If you’re going to assemble a team now, it’s not going to be six Oxbridge white blokes. It’s going to be a diverse range of people who reflect the modern world.”

    Speaking at a press conference at the Karlovy Vary film festival, where he was presenting his new film The Man Who Killed Don Quixote, Gilliam said: “It made me cry: the idea that … no longer six white Oxbridge men can make a comedy show. Now we need one of this, one of that, everybody represented… this is bullshit. I no longer want to be a white male, I don’t want to be blamed for everything wrong in the world: I tell the world now I’m a black lesbian… My name is Loretta and I’m a BLT, a black lesbian in transition.”

    He added: “[Allen’s] statement made me so angry, all of us so angry. Comedy is not assembled, it’s not like putting together a boy band where you put together one of this, one of that everyone is represented.”

    Gilliam follows fellow Python member John Cleese’s angry response to Allen’s comment, who tweeted: “Unfair! We were remarkably diverse FOR OUR TIME … We had three grammar-school boys, one a poof, and Gilliam, though not actually black, was a Yank. And NO slave-owners.”

    Gilliam has previously attracted controversy for his comments on the MeToo campaign, likening it to “mob rule” and saying: “ It’s crazy how simplified things are becoming.”

  202. The other essential question is:
    Is it ethical for men to send women into hand to hand combat against men?

    In the most desperate circumstances, probably, Yes. But would you in present circumstances?

  203. 132andBush

    Monty has, among other ideological dribbling, stated that stay at home Mothers don’t contribute economically to society.

  204. thefrolickingmole

    They just can’t physically carry out their diabolical plans most of the time.
    If they could, we would all be seriously fucked.

    This is also true about cats.
    Those fuckers had opposable thumbs and it would resemble the “war of the worlds” day 5 for mankind.

  205. Death Giraffe

    There is good reason why we had to spend 200 years burning witches.
    Have a think about precisely how diabolical and cruel the matriarchy must have been.
    Blokes are naturally very protective of the female of their species.
    How bad must life have gotten under harpie rule that they bucked evolutionary programming and torched the wenches?

  206. Atoms for Peace

    JC. Just back away slowly from whatever you are drinking

  207. Mater

    The sight of a year eight girl delightedly sawing off the critter’s nose for no particular good reason makes me think you are wrong about the psychological part, but not the physical one.

    Giraffe, the critter was already dead. Plenty can debone a chook, too.
    But there are differences when taking a life. I asked the question of a recently retired Servicewoman. To her credit, she thinks she could shoot someone but doubts being able to bash someone to death, even if necessary. She doesn’t believe women should be in Arms Corps.

  208. Roger

    Someone said that someone said that something happened 40 years ago.

    30 years at the time the charges pertained to.

    You don’t think he’d remember two altar boys telling him a fellow priest had buggered them?

  209. Death Giraffe

    To her credit, she thinks she could shoot someone but doubts being able to bash someone to death, even if necessary.

    ..
    Bashing requires physical effort and strength, and the risk of having the tables turned.
    You should have asked her if she could bayonet tied up POWs.
    How many blokes cut their girlfriend’s bits off?
    Compare and contrast with the Lorena Bobbit syndrome.
    I couldn’t do that. Could you?
    Apparently a fair few of them have no problem with doing it to us.

  210. Delta A

    To her credit, she thinks she could shoot someone but doubts being able to bash someone to death, even if necessary. She doesn’t believe women should be in Arms Corps.

    Unfortunately, it will take a serious incident or set of circumstances, bringing the country to the brink of catastrophe, before the diversity, female-front-line is consigned to the not-now drawer. All this virtue signalling, David Morrison PC rubbish is possible only in peace time.

  211. Anybody know what happened to Winston lately?
    Or have just missed his posts?

  212. JC

    It’s amusing..The Dutch Supermodel goes into one of her boring monologues desperately trying to persuade people here just how hard APS’ers work with that example.

    The anecdote is a perfectly illustrates what Libertarian try to fight against.. Big government. She tell how a minister is trying to avoid being sideswiped in the press and has a team of people working up an appropriate response to Bruce the Farmer making a complaint on 4 Corners or something. It’s all work for nothing and the bigger the government the bigger the demands and bigger staffing.

  213. zyconoclast

    I just noticed the free $0.15 shopping bags are made in either Germany or China.

  214. calli

    There have been times in my life when I’ve been prepared to kill, to protect my children and myself. I probably would again.

    I wouldn’t want to do it for a living.

  215. H B Bear

    Giraffe, the critter was already dead. Plenty can debone a chook, too.

    Mater – that logic doesn’t follow either. On our Year 8 camp, which was intended to provide some Lord of the Flies experiences in the safety of the private school education, our group of 4 boys was happy to chop the head off our condemned boiler chicken but no-one wanted to stick their hand up and gut the thing. So we threw the thing in the fire and had baked beans for dinner. Based on an amateur assessment of the thing I don’t think we missed out on much for dinner anyway.

  216. Mater

    Compare and contrast with the Lorena Bobbit syndrome.
    I couldn’t do that. Could you?
    Apparently a fair few of them have no problem with doing it to us.

    I absolutely refuse to target the recruitment ads towards this demographic. Although it would make a change from the baby holding, vaccine giving stereotype which pervades the current campaign.

  217. Roger

    I just noticed the free $0.15 shopping bags are made in either Germany or China.

    Imported on container ships fueled by bunker oil.

    Those turtles must be very precious.

    (Btw, I’ve found the bags develop holes and tears after a couple of uses.)

  218. mh

    Another massive issue in the Australian Public Service is nepotism.

    But no one will investigate it.

  219. johanna

    Often it is some clusterf* instigated by the wet behind the ears and ignorant “ministerial adviser” , or sometimes just some other garden variety stuff up.

    Yes and yes.

    Experienced and dedicated public servants (yes, they do exist) have a lot to put up with with regard to pimply faced ‘advisers’ who lay down the law.

    They learn toddler training. Distract them, soothe them, and so on.

    Of course, now and again you cut out the middleman and get Bob Katter shouting in your ear.

    I used to put the phone down and get on with other work until there was a silence after the yelling. Then, I would pick up the phone and say, ‘yes, Mr Katter?’

    I suppose that nowadays it would be called bullying. But, it is only bullying if you let it be. I didn’t give a damn about Katter’s rants, so how could it be bullying?

  220. Leo G

    Does anyone here have any theories about the second Novichok incident in the UK ? Deliberate release ?

    The latest incident suggests someone in the Salisbury area has a quantity of the agent in the binary form and has been experimenting with safe field activation and a dermal delivery system.

  221. Herodotus

    Just to be clear, there’s Monty Python, and here we have (rather too often) monty-not-python.

  222. Herodotus

    Quite so, Johanna – I’ve worked in the distant past for both types.

  223. Death Giraffe

    Imagine how cold blooded you would have to be to do that.
    Go to sleep with your partner, pretending everything is fine.
    Wait until he is sound asleep.
    Take out a knife.
    Cut his todger off.
    Ignore his agonised shrieking and writhing about and spurting copious amounts of blood from his groin.
    Get in the car, still carrying the severed cock.
    Drive away and throw it out of the window.

  224. Mater

    Mater – that logic doesn’t follow either. On our Year 8 camp, which was intended to provide some Lord of the Flies experiences in the safety of the private school education, our group of 4 boys was happy to chop the head off our condemned boiler chicken but no-one wanted to stick their hand up and gut the thing.

    Bear, that would be considered a war crime.
    Truth be told, I’m more of a hand-not-up-arse type bloke myself.
    On second thoughts, Giraffe (and Kipling) may be right.

    When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
    and the women come out to cut up what remains,
    jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
    and go to your gawd like a soldier.

    – Rudyard Kipling

  225. egg_

    Believe it or not senior public servants fall into two groups, either sociopathic narcissists or hardworking dedicated public servants.

    Bureaucracy, in general.

  226. Gab

    Tasmanian man Christo Brown has been found guilty of raping a woman in her 70s in Launceston during a burglary in 2015. He was 18 at the time. Brown was extradited from Victoria to face trial in Launceston. He will be sentenced at a later date.

    Have a look at him.

  227. Dave in Marybrook

    Frolicking Mole – Champagne Comedy!
    Cleese’s FOR OUR TIME echoes a famously give-a-shit skit wherein Tchaikovsky is mocked as a poof, with his naughty bits being famously very naughty FOR HIS TIME.

  228. Eddystone

    A jealous wife has been arrested after allegedly hacking off her husband’s penis Tuesday with a 12-inch-long carving knife.

    Ouch. This is how she did it.

    “I aroused him in the morning while he was absent-minded, then used the knife to cut off his penis. I threw it out of the window.”

    Nasty

  229. Death Giraffe

    Always with the throwing it out the window.

  230. Dave in Marybrook

    I would never judge a character, or even guess his background, by his looks, Gab. Shame on you for encouraging us to do so.
    I do notice, however, he’s well away from the pool.

  231. max

    Amesbury and Salisbury. Big Muslim Populations ? Not far from Birmingham.

    But if the nerve agent was held by Muslims, they wouldn’t mess around with trial releases.

  232. Des Deskperson

    ‘Another massive issue in the Australian Public Service is nepotism.’

    True, if your mum or dad was an agency head, a DEP SEC or an ambassador, you have pretty much got it made, provided you play your cards right.

    Agencies that, in my experience, are particularly riddled with nepotism are DFAT, ATO and what used to be Customs.

    It is, of course, unlawful under the provisions of The P{public Service Act banning patronage and favouritism., for that that is worth.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    Have a look at him.

    The Tassie Devil Mark II, is less cuddlesome than his forebears.

  234. Death Giraffe

    The man had lost a lot of blood. He is now under close medical supervision. He will never be able to use his penis in the same way again.”

    ..
    No shit.
    Maybe he can have it pressed and use it as a bookmark.

  235. H B Bear

    Yes I suspect the killing of live chickens on camp has gone the way of man perms. Some things are best left in the 80s.

  236. Leo G

    Believe it or not senior public servants fall into two groups, either sociopathic narcissists or hardworking dedicated public servants.

    I’ve encountered a number of sociopathic narcissistic senior public servants who were dedicated and hardworking.
    More generally, public servants fall into just about anything wherein they should stay out.

  237. egg_

    She gets a new one, freshly sewn and emollient lovingly massaged in it, supplied by Grloograes ‘Skin to Live In’.

    They’re not foreskin transplants from Pirate Pete?

    Whereas Pirate Pete’s looking a bit wrinkly – the only ‘moisturiser’ he uses is KY?

  238. johanna

    JC
    #2755774, posted on July 5, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    It’s amusing..The Dutch Supermodel goes into one of her boring monologues desperately trying to persuade people here just how hard APS’ers work with that example.

    The anecdote is a perfectly illustrates what Libertarian try to fight against.. Big government. She tell how a minister is trying to avoid being sideswiped in the press and has a team of people working up an appropriate response to Bruce the Farmer making a complaint on 4 Corners or something. It’s all work for nothing and the bigger the government the bigger the demands and bigger staffing.

    Thanks for calling me a Supermodel, but alas, like Lizzie, I am too short. I was very pretty indeed as a young gel, but short. Ya get that.

    As to your central point, such as it was, it is Ministers who drive their staff and public servants in that regard. Having worked for numerous Ministers (and Prime Ministers and NSW Premiers) I can assure you that they vary a lot in neuroticism and paranoia – but only by degree.

    I vividly recall being phoned by a junior Ministerial staffer at 4.15 pm on a Friday because he had seen something on social media. I stayed there until after 9 pm to ascertain that it was a furphy.

    I suppose that in the unlikely event that JC had been in my job, he would have told the staffer to fuck off and then had a steak with Monty. Next Monday, he would have been greeted with a parade from his colleagues and an invitation to work in the Minister’s Office as a Senior Adviser, salary $130,000 plus perks.

    Not.

    Go shave your back and iron your jeans, wanker.

  239. Leigh Lowe

    True, if your mum or dad was an agency head, a DEP SEC or an ambassador, you have pretty much got it made, provided you play your cards right.

    Exhibit A : Major General Allan Morrison’s little boy, David.

  240. Eddystone

    If your wife has been a bit moody lately, then, out of the blue one morning, starts playing with your todger, don’t be all “absent minded”.

  241. Goanna

    Is it ethical for men to send women into hand to hand combat against men?
    It’s a bit like using a terrier as a snake dog around the house.
    You know he’s alert and keen for the fight but most likely will die with his boots on.
    It’s just not fair on the terrier especially in brown snake country.

  242. Leigh Lowe

    “I aroused him in the morning while he was absent-minded, then used the knife to cut off his penis. I threw it out of the window.”

    It can happen.
    Mrs L once threatened me with tweezers and nail clippers.

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