Monday Forum: July 9, 2018

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  1. John Constantine

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/105234704/Impossible-burger-Artificial-meat-is-having-your-cake-and-eating-it

    Artificial meat is the way of the future, declare their vegynsys wymynsys of Air New Zealand as the national carrier promotes an imported product.

    The decision has been made, that in the coming borderless world, artificial meat rations will be the future.

    Dystopic prediction:
    Once the investments in artificial meat vats have hit critical mass, there will be a release of the most virulent foot and mouth disease strain the world has ever seen. Farewell to small scale independent meat production, here comes Crony Vatmeat.

    Comrades.

  2. Steve trickler

    Oh come on
    #2759093, posted on July 9, 2018 at 10:38 pm
    What do you think of the F-35, Steve?

    As something to watch fly in the sky? Expen$ive spectacle.

  3. Oh Come On

    I reckon Molyneux is a bit off.

    Who bases their relationship off IQ etc? He reckons that is a reason why women should not date older men, the older man won’t “relate” to them because the younger gal will be a ditz etc.

    If it was wrong, younger women would not seek older men.

    The men probably want to talk about high-IQ stuff with their friends who they aren’t in a romantic relationship with.

    The leave your family thing is toxic, most people do not have toxic parents etc.

  4. zyconoclast

    One thing the Chilean miners experience showed is the wave of celebrity then abandonment is dangerous.

    Man that was a weird spectacle as it was wrapping up. All those blokes convinced they’d be millionaires as a result of their experience. Poor bastards.

    The Chilean miners’ life underground: P0rn, pot, and other details

    According to a new book-length account, the Chilean miners who were trapped underground for 69 days last year turned to pot and porn while they waited to be rescued. In 33 Men, journalist Jonathan Franklin writes that rescuers and the families of the trapped men went to great lengths to make the miners’ ordeal “more bearable” and keep their spirits high. Here, five new revelations:

    1. Some miners smoked pot — but didn’t share
    One of the trapped miners, Samuel Avalos, says he repeatedly noticed a group steal away to smoke pot that they’d presumably received in letters from their families. But the smokers “never even offered” him any. Franklin writes that the weed “created more tension than it relieved,” and officials considered using sniffer dogs to stop the drug-filled letters from reaching the men. Be that as it may, the marijuana-using miners are “heroes to stoners everywhere,” says Adrian Chen at Gawker.

    2. The miners asked for s3x toys
    Some of the trapped men asked for blow-up s3x dolls and condoms — and planned to set up “a separate room for ‘conjugal visits’ with the plastic women.” Ultimately, the supplier who offered to donate 10 s3x dolls was turned down over fears that his contribution would create resentment. “I said 33 or none,” says Dr. Jean Romagnoli, as quoted in the Daily Mail. “Otherwise [the men] would be fighting for inflatable dolls: Whose turn is it? Who was seen with whose fiancée? You are flirting with my inflatable doll.” The men were sent pinup posters and p0rn0graphy instead.

    3. They contemplated cannibalism
    In the first (and most isolated) stage of their confinement, the men shared their food equally, even as their supply dwindled to the extent that each man received a mere spoonful of tuna every couple of days. After praying (in vain) that their tuna supply would miraculously double, the starving miners reportedly considered cannibalism. “They told me that they had a pot and a saw ready,” Franklin says, in an interview with 60 Minutes. Luckily, on day 17, rescuers drilled through and a new food supply became available.

    4. And considered suicide
    Miner Victor Zamora says he and the others thought about ending their own lives by poisoning themselves with carbon monoxide. “I said to a friend, ‘Well, if we’re gonna continue suffering, it would be better for us to all go to the shelter, [and] start an engine…,'” says Zamora in an interview with 60 Minutes.

    5. The Chilean government faked part of the rescue broadcast

    At one point during the 22-hour rescue operation that brought the men to the surface, the shaft became unstable and a rockfall cut the rescue cable. Franklin says that the Chilean government interrupted the live television feed, and re-aired earlier video while emergency repairs were made. “A billion viewers around the world were … tricked,” Franklin says.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’ve had no time to scroll back, but this, from a live blog of the cave drama, fully encapsulates my feelings:

    I don’t believe in God, but I’m prepared to adopt one and pray night & day if it means the operation will be a success

    -Phil Bellette

    All Cats, many of whom are believers, will be putting their prayers and thoughts into action on this I am sure. In the midst of a miserable set of political options, the hope that springs eternal is a joy to feel part of.

    Oh, and what a wonderful hanging out the years old Labor dirty washing was experienced on Paul Murray live tonight between Mark Latham and Graham Richardson. Hairy was saying down boy, calm, don’t get too agro and lose it all now. We really thought Mark was going to biff Richo one, as he was mentioning things Richo wanted to forget from forty years ago and Richo relying on age, ill health and total denial to protect himself from things no-one’s dared to say for quite a while.

  6. Crossie

    Soon you’ll have to sign a form in triplicate.

    Don’t knock it – she’s making it simpler just to get married. Public “I do” recorded for posterity 🙂

    Don’t be too sure, marriages will be the next battlefield and “Are you awake?” will not be considered as an acceptable request for consent for much longer.

  7. zyconoclast

    One thing the Chilean miners experience showed is the wave of celebrity then abandonment is dangerous.

    Man that was a weird spectacle as it was wrapping up. All those blokes convinced they’d be millionaires as a result of their experience. Poor bastards.

    Weed, p0rn and ‘cannibal hunger’ in Chile mine

    Good thing those Chilean miners didn’t get the munchies — they smoked pot while trapped for 69 days and considered cannibalizing the first one to collapse.

    Some of the 33 miners had the weed sent to them in letters from their wives, a startling new book reveals.

    “Officials from the Chilean government became so concerned [over the pot use] that they discussed getting a drug-sniffing dog” to ferret out the rogue letters delivered through a rescue shaft, according to the book “33 Men” by journalist Jonathan Franklin.

    Britain’s Daily Mail, quoting the book, said some miners also received deliveries of p0rn0graphy — and asked for inflatable dolls.

    The request for dolls was refused, but only because there weren’t enough available.

    “A guy offered them inflatable dolls, but he only had 10,” said Dr. Jean Romagnoli, who was assessing the men’s health from the surface.

    “I said, ‘Thirty-three or none.’ Otherwise they would be fighting over them.”

    Franklin and several miners appeared last night on CBS’s “60 Minutes” and said the trapped men were so desperate by the 16th day that they considered suicide — or eating the first miner to collapse.

    “I said to a friend, ‘Well, if we are going to continue suffering, it would be better for us to . . . start an engine and with the carbon monoxide just let ourselves go,” said miner Victor Zamora.

    Franklin quoted a miner saying that his friends told him he would be “breakfast, lunch and dinner.”

    He added a rescue shaft was completed just in time — adding that trapped men “had a pot and a saw ready.”

  8. zyconoclast

    That’s weird. Sometimes the post is slow to appear.
    I think it has gone to the naughty corner.

  9. John Constantine

    A billion dollars a year, it buys a lot of ABC silence on the affairs of richo.

    (Mind you, if the wall had have been punched instead of coloured, their ABC would have been all over it.)

  10. John Constantine

    Combusted, not coloured.

  11. Crossie

    Oh, and what a wonderful hanging out the years old Labor dirty washing was experienced on Paul Murray live tonight between Mark Latham and Graham Richardson. Hairy was saying down boy, calm, don’t get too agro and lose it all now. We really thought Mark was going to biff Richo one, as he was mentioning things Richo wanted to forget from forty years ago and Richo relying on age, ill health and total denial to protect himself from things no-one’s dared to say for quite a while.

    I watched it all and enjoyed every second of it. I really thought Paul was going to interrupt them too soon but he held his tongue and held off. They were all so into it that Pauline Hanson had to remind them “I’m still here” though she gave as good as she got from Richo earlier on.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And, all you imbibers had better watch out, because they are coming after you next.

    Hairy having one of his regular ‘nights off’, and I am too. It’s boring but you get more done.
    Medical pics on wine bottles would bring out the ezi-stik label-maker in me, to slap ’em over with something elegant and witty. Then I would market them to purpose as much as I could get away with. As bookplates perhaps, who could argue with that? When I make a good profit, I’ll invite yous all to a party.

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Don’t be too sure, marriages will be the next battlefield and “Are you awake?” will not be considered as an acceptable request for consent for much longer.

    “Excuse me, oh best beloved, a spot of slap and tickle wouldn’t go astray?”

    “You’re drunk, and you smell like an abandoned whisky distillery.”

    Asking for a friend.

  14. Oh come on

    Molyneux is a creepy fucker. He’s such a pseud.

  15. Oh come on

    I reckon the Scientologists turned Molyneux down because he wasn’t Hollywood enough so he was all bugger them then, I’m starting my own cult.

  16. “You’re drunk, and you smell like an abandoned whisky distillery.”

    Seduction #101
    Make sure the woman is drunker than you are.

  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    marriages will be the next battlefield and “Are you awake?” will not be considered as an acceptable request for consent for much longer.

    We use hand signals. When Hairy gently starts stroking my shoulder, then slumber not.
    My signals are more direct and could be interpreted as abusive.

    How are they going to get around that? 🙂

  18. Oh come on

    It discriminates against the non-verbal. The weird cliquey deaf community will be up in arms, for starters.

    Ok they’re always up in arms due to sign language but even more than usual.

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    marriages will be the next battlefield and “Are you awake?” will not be considered as an acceptable request for consent for much longer.

    Is all this going to be retrospective?

    I remember coming home from deployment, and the next bang was my pack hitting the floor – am I likely to be defending actions for what happened for failure to decide all the clauses of a valid contract, thirty years ago ?

  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    “You’re drunk, and you smell like an abandoned whisky distillery.”

    Into a spare bedroom with you, to snore alone. After a refreshing and silent night’s sleep, she’ll be pleased to see you in the morning when you bring her in a hot cup of tea. Men are cute when they’re apologetic. 🙂

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Memory Vault, serious question, are you going to be updating your book on welfare fraud?

  22. Honestly dunno, Zulu. I’ve basically spent the last two years fighting to stay alive, and now that I’m on the mend I haven’t really decided if I want to take up ‘The Good Fight” again. Actually I’m not convinced there are enough people left who care, to make the effort worthwhile.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Melb Cat drinks are this weekend. Sydney next Friday night.

    Missed some Friday just gone by. Probly see y’all this coming Friday before we head off o/s.
    Email time and place, please Percy. I haven’t scrolled back far, too busy.

  24. Oh come on

    Via Drudge, Sacha Baron-Cohen is going to take on Trump’s America. A teaser shows his new character getting a waterboarding kit signed by Dick Cheney.

    Seriously? Ensnaring a Bush-era dinosaur in a ‘gaffe’ that might have got traction 10 years ago demonstrates what, precisely?

    This is going to flop bigtime if he’s trying the Borat formula on Trump today.

  25. Mark A

    The witching hour is near, hopefully the wowsers re. military are asleep.

    Some heavy hitting guns.
    Many think railway guns and armored trains were a bit of useless and a waste, but not so.

    Billions were expended in the developing of bigger and better guns with longer range to good affect.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Into a spare bedroom with you, to snore alone. After a refreshing and silent night’s sleep, she’ll be pleased to see you in the morning when you bring her in a hot cup of tea</

    It was one of the conditions of retirement,

    I rise at 6.30 each morning. I make a pot of tea, and sit reading, either business or pleasure, watching the sun come up, and score my own breakfast.

    Milady rises at 9.30 A.M. and visits her coffeemaker for the first cup of the day…

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Honestly dunno, Zulu. I’ve basically spent the last two years fighting to stay alive, and now that I’m on the mend I haven’t really decided if I want to take up ‘The Good Fight” again

    Fair comment, Memory Vault, some of us remember the stand you took.

    Oh and for whats it’s worth, the inquest into the murder of Shirley Finn, is recommencing soon.

  28. Steve trickler

    It’s a nice ride on a train.



  29. Oh come on

    Here’s the thing. Trump has this quirky sliver of his support base – it’s characterised as the 4Chan /pol/ autists, but it’s not just those guys. They probably enjoyed Borat back in the day. But I can’t see neo-Borat doing to Trump what he did to Bush – Trump will punch back and so will these guys. And, in the aggregate, I suspect they’ll be funnier than neo-Borat.

    Has Sacha Baron-Cohen updated his act to fit the Trump era? Well, his teaser stars Dick Cheney and waterboarding. Draw your own conclusions.

    You gotta feel a bit sorry for these old farts trying to get the band back together as if GWB were still in charge. Look at Michael Moore with his Fahrenheit 11/9 retread, and now neo-Borat.

    Sad.

  30. Infidel Tiger

    Woohoo!

    Boris johnson resigns.

    Fuxk off May, you evil witch.

  31. Oh come on

    How can she survive?

  32. the inquest into the murder of Shirley Finn, is recommencing soon.

    Dallas Dempster is still alive, so don’t hold your breath waiting for meaningful revelations.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    How can she survive?

    She can’t, but like Merkel, she is a childless shrew that wants the destruction of the West. They’ll have to bomb her out.

  34. Oh come on

    She has one thing going for her – the prospect of Corbyn following her. That could keep her in a job.

  35. JC

    But you know, Boris Johnson is a self – serving douchebag. You have to wonder just how much opposition he put up in cabinet meetings over the soft exit. I said just after the vote that you guys were deluded if you thought the UK would leave. I still have doubts it’s going to happen even with a new PM. With the exception of a couple of the home counties, the UK is more euroweenie than the euroweenies.

  36. JC

    She has one thing going for her – the prospect of Corbyn following her. That could keep her in a job.

    Have you seen the polls there? Before this, the Conservatives and labor were polling 32/31. It’s not beyond the realm of possibly labor would win.

  37. Infidel Tiger

    Corbyn has principles and is pro-Brexit.

    Yes he is also a communist, but you must take the good with bad.

  38. BorisG

    Since the remainers have a majority in all the major parties in the commons, it is hard to see anyone supporting hard Brexit being elected PM.

    May may be the least evil in this regard.

  39. JC

    IT

    Corbyn is not pro-leave. It’s bullshit. How can you trust a leftwinger telling you the truth? Don;t be so gullible.

  40. BorisG

    Corbyn has principles and is pro-Brexit.

    Pro hard Brexit ?

  41. BorisG

    JC, Corbyn says he is pro remain, from which IT decides that he must be lying and hence is pro Brexit.

  42. Oh come on

    Boris Johnson is a cypher when it comes to Brexit. It’s why a ministry was created to deal with Brexit and a serious individual like David Davis was put in charge of the Brexit ministry. This ought to have been a responsibility of Boris’s brief as FM, but it very explicitly wasn’t.

  43. JC

    Britain is currently the slowest growing economy in Europe and it’s all to do with leaving the EU.

  44. BorisG

    It’s not beyond the realm of possibly labor would win.

    Who says it is?

  45. JC

    The polls are suggesting this, Boris.

  46. Infidel Tiger

    Corbyn is for Brexit in his actions.

    He is old school British left. He wants to nationalise everything and hates europe.

    Can’t say I blame him really.

  47. Oh come on

    Have you seen the polls there? Before this, the Conservatives and labor were polling 32/31. It’s not beyond the realm of possibly labor would win.

    Yes that’s exactly what I mean. Her party would have done away with her long ago if not for her botched election where she demonstrated that Corbyn was electable after all and they don’t want to go to another election.

  48. JC

    69% of Brits think Brexit is going badly: who do they think is to blame?

    Artiste, lets say it’s true, although he’s lying. But lets assume it’s true that he hates Europe and wants to leave. His party is totally committed to the EU.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    The British Labour Party tried to get rid of Corbyn but the people said NO.

    He is hated by his party but is tremendously popular with the people.

    Much like Brexit.

    Corbyn is Britain’s Trump.

  50. JC

    I’ve been warning you guys that on the economy side of things, Brexit is terrible for Britain.

  51. JC

    Corbyn is Britain’s Trump.

    Oh stop.

  52. BorisG

    The polls are suggesting this, Boris.

    You misunderstood me. I have no doubt Corbyn has a chance.

  53. Infidel Tiger

    I’ve been warning you guys that on the economy side of things, Brexit is terrible for Britain.

    You’re completely wrong, which is why we have ignored you.

  54. BorisG

    Much like Brexit.

    Briexit was supported by 52% of voters.

  55. BorisG

    You’re completely wrong, which is why we have ignored you.

    Yeh nationalization of the economy by Corbyn will be great for thr economy. LOL.

  56. JC

    Some of Corbyn’s beliefs.

    1. The deficit should be tackled – but not through spending cuts and not to an “arbitrary” deadline. Instead Corbyn would fund its reduction via higher taxes for the rich and a crackdown on tax avoidance and evasion while tackling “corporate welfare” and tax breaks for companies.

    5. “Quantitative easing for people” could be used to invest in housing, energy, transport and digital projects. Unlike the £375bn issued electronically by the Bank of England between 2009 and 2012 to buy bonds, gilts and other debts, this would be “QE for people instead of banks”, Corbyn says. Tax campaigner Richard Murphy argues these plans would stimulate the economy and boost employment. But Shadow Chancellor Chris Leslie attacked the proposal, saying it would lead to higher inflation and interest rates, hurting the poor most.

    7. A National Education Service modelled on the NHS should be established. Under Corbyn, state-funded academies and free schools would be forced to return to local authority control while university tuition fees would be scrapped and replaced with grants. Corbyn would look at ending the charitable status of public schools, although he accepts this would be complicated and might not happen immediately. He reportedly split up with one of his former wives following a disagreement over whether to send their son to a grammar school or a comprehensive. Asked recently if the break-up was over an “an issue of principle”, Corbyn told the Guardian newspaper: “I feel very strongly about comprehensive education, yes.”

    9. Rent controls should be re-introduced, linking private rents to local earnings, and more council houses should be built. He also believes that council tenants’ right to buy their homes should be extended to private sector renters.

    11. The immigration debate has been “quite unpleasant”. In an interview with Channel 4 News, Corbyn said the current discourse around the issue “fails to recognise the huge contribution migrants have made to this country”. He added: “We should let people into this country who are desperate to get somewhere safe to live”.

    16. Remaining in the European Union but with changes. Corbyn says he is not content with the EU as it stands, but wants to stay to fight for a “better Europe”. He had previously refused to rule out campaigning to leave. He also opposes the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) deal.

    17. Corbyn backs cycling. He does not own a car and declined to share one with the BBC’s Chris Mason for an interview, saying: “I cycle all the time. Actually I’ve got a confession to make, a rather naughty secret – I’ve got two bikes.” He is also a member of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Cycling.

    18. Energy companies should be under public ownership. He says he would be “much happier” with a “regulated, publicly run service delivering energy supplies”. He is “totally opposed” to fracking. However, he says deep-mine coal pits in the north of England could be reopened.

    20. A national maximum wage should be introduced to cap the salaries of high earners. He would also introduce a windfall tax on former state assets such as the Royal Bank of Scotland, which he says were privatised too cheaply.

    21. Every child should have the chance to learn a musical instrument or act on stage. Corbyn’s arts policy also includes directing a greater proportion of funding to local projects, widening access and protecting the BBC.

    The guy is a fucking loon. Five years of him would need 20 years of Thatcher putting it all back together. And he rides a fucking bike, FFS.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    Hard to see what he gets wrong there.

  58. JC

    Artiste,

    Look, you can support the exist for many reasons, some of them are very reasonable, but on the economy side Brexit will turn Britain into a fucking mess. It will be a total and absolute basket case with Corbyn as the PM. And yes, when I said Brexit will adversely effect Britain, I was right and the stock market’s thumb down was also right.

  59. JC

    Hard to see what he gets wrong there.

    Higher taxes for the rich?
    Printing money, not as a momentary tool, but to pay for more welfare?
    A NHS education model?
    Rent control?
    Pro EU, with a few modifications?
    Pro third world immigration?
    Nationalization of energy?
    No fracking?
    Ceiling on wages?
    Cylcling?

    Yep, all good and very Trumpian.

    Artiste, are you free basing on crack?

  60. JC

    BorisG
    #2759191, posted on July 10, 2018 at 12:58 am

    IT is kiddin.

    Okay, but are you sure?

  61. Infidel Tiger

    Britain has record low unemployment, growth is rebounding and they are happy about soccer.

    Once the hard brexit is concluded in March, Britain will boom as it once again reestablishes itself with the world.

    The EU will be all but over by 2020 and Germany itself is likely to implode. Thankfully they have no standing army or operable tanks this time.

  62. JC

    Artiste

    When a manufacturing firm in Britain says they see Brexit as a negative, you should listen to them because unlike you, me and almost everyone else here they know what the fuck they’re talking about. We have very little understanding as to why, because most of us are not nor have been in that line of work. These days, manufacturing supply chains are extremely complex and they track all over the world.

    Trump has a blind spot when it comes to this like a lot of Bill the Butcher types here.

    There’s one area in economics which is as close to true as the laws of thermo dynamics. Lots of arguments can be had about almost every topic in economics, but not this one. Trade. Open markets offer the best opportunity for people.

  63. JC

    Britain has relatively low unemployment, low productivity and low growth. The one thing keeping it afloat is comparatively low wages, but living standards aren’t rising much.

  64. Infidel Tiger

    Britain will soon have an FTA with the US.

    Fuxk europe. It’s about to implode. Germany is in serious danger of collapse.

    Britain needs some Bulldog spirit and a hard Brexit.

    Culture is all that matters. Economics can be fixed easily.

  65. Infidel Tiger

    UK Q1 GDP Growth Slows to Weakest in 5 Years

    Brutal winter did that.

    Q2 has shown a huge rebound.

    All is good again. Hard Brexit or nothing.

  66. JC

    Britain will soon have an FTA with the US.

    Britain pretty much trades freely with the US already because of the EU relationship.

    Fuxk europe. It’s about to implode. Germany is in serious danger of collapse.

    Well actually it’s not. Germany having social problems of its own making doesn’t mean implosion. In fact Europe is growing quite nicely. It’s not hitting the ball out of the park, but it’s okay.

    Britain needs some Bulldog spirit and a hard Brexit.

    Britain has become a euroweenie country.

    Culture is all that matters. Economics can be fixed easily.

    Forget this bullshit, because British culture has morphed into something else and it’s distastful. The past is by definition, gone.

  67. JC

    Artiste

    It’s not Thatcher’s Britain anymore. Take that completely out of your mind.

  68. stackja

    Bully alert: ask for Angela.

  69. BorisG

    Culture is all that matters. Economics can be fixed easily.

    See what I mean?

  70. Oh come on

    Britain needs a hard Brexit. It will be a tough year or two. Very tough. The Brits will have to legislatively re-align with whatever the rest of the world wants, rather than what the EU wants. That will take time. Economic links will be cut sharply, and re-grow relatively slowly. It will be a shock. Exiting the EU will be hard – the EU will make it so, because they think the Poms will blink (not unreasonably) and they want to discourage others from taking the same exit.

    So it will be tough for the Brits with a hard exit. But it will be hard for the EU, too. The EU’s gamble is that a hard exit won’t happen because the Brits will come crawling back or will accept a Clayton’s Brexit. But if the Brits ultimately call the EU’s bluff, the continent is going to *squeal*.

  71. rickw

    https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/chinese-telco-huawei-wins-136m-contract-with-wa-government-despite-security-concerns-20180709-p4zqen.html

    Ask Iranians what they think of Huawei’s customer data security.

    The pricks shouldn’t have been allowed to bid. Then again, they have accommodated plenty of former Australian politicians at their trough.

  72. nemkat

    Here’s how it has worked in the past when the Tories are falling apart versus a popular Labour Leader:

    The Labour Leader is walking down the street whistlin Dixie, then he drops dead.
    See: Gaitskell, Hugh, & Smith, John.
    The brand new Labour Leader wins the GE, and turns out to be a First Class nutcase.
    See: Wilson, Harold, & Blair, Tony.

  73. nemkat

    Lauren Southern wants to incite our peace lovin Moslems.
    That’s a good enough reason to tell her to fuck off.

  74. Wade

    Nemcrap wants to incite peace lovin Cats’.
    Thats good enough reason to tell him to fuck off.

  75. nemkat

    What percentage is there in telling Moslems their deity is Gay and Trans?

    She’s a rabble rouser, watch her on YouTube, if you must.
    If some rabbit wanted to come here and bag one of the many Catholic deities, do you think he’d get a Visa?

  76. rickw

    If some rabbit wanted to come here and bag one of the many Catholic deities, do you think he’d get a Visa?

    Yes, absolutely, front of the que.

    Poor quality trolling, socking, whatever.

  77. rickw

    CONTROVERSIAL conservative activist Lauren Southern has had her visa declined by the Australian government ahead of a speaking tour later this month.

    Of course the communist scum would do this.

    Won’t make a jot of difference and most likely just boosted Southerns profile in Australia.

  78. nemkat

    Yeah, you aren’t much of a troll, rickw, but you keep persisting at it.

  79. nemkat

    Who’s gonna pay $79 to see Cucksworth Molyneaux and Airhead Southern?
    What’s more likely is that ticket sales were flat to non existent, so the promoters purposely fucked up the Visa Application.

  80. Tom

    Poor old Big Government Googleory. He has no life and no friends so he’s reduced to making a nuisance of himself 24/7 with a gaggle of sockpuppet email accounts.

  81. Mother Lode

    Nemskull is just Grrglry wanking into a sock.

  82. dragnet

    In relation to the forthcoming Sydney Cats do, I have already supplied my e-mail details to Sinc. I’d like to rock along.

  83. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Mossad guys have been at it again:

    Secret Israeli operation recovers watch that belonged to legendary 1960s spy executed in Syria

    Israel’s Mossad spy agency has recovered a wristwatch that belonged to Eli Cohen, an Israeli spy publicly executed in Syria five decades ago.

    The office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu issued a statement Friday confirming that the watch was recently recovered from Syria in a “special Mossad operation.”

    Somehow they worked out where it was kept, got into Syria, got the watch and returned to Israel without being detected.

    Like the literal tonne of nuclear program documents they managed to steal from that secure facility in Iran.

    How do they do this? Amazing.

  84. John of Mel

    Leigh Lowe
    Yes, but we don’t take just anyone.
    You’d have to really, really hate the Romans to be allowed in.

    As a card-carrying founding member of AC, close to 10 years member of IPA, having pictures taken with Mark Steyn, Andrew Bolt, Tony Abbot (when he was the opposition leader), will I make the cut?

  85. Snoopy

    Lauren Southern tried an Abdul Magpie. With the same result.

  86. John of Mel

    Forgot to mention – I was born and raised in the USSR and hate everything that have a whiff of totalitarianism.
    And another point – on that fateful November day when Trump won, I was walking through Melbourne City wearing MAGA hat. Have a picture to prove it. Should have recorded the (verbal) abuse I got.

  87. Snoopy

    Who else is going to the Cat meet at Portland Roads?

  88. feelthebern

    Cats who are nervous about Huawei, can they comment about the news a fortnight ago about AT&T having NSA hubs across the US?

  89. feelthebern

    I hope Trump picks Hardiman for SCOTUS.
    He’s the most stare decisis of the bunch.
    Gotta give Roberts & Gorsuch a hand & make it 3-6.
    Trump making the SCOTUS a 5-4 stare decisis court by 2020 would be his greatest gift to America.
    Anyone who clerked for Scalia is only on Trumps list to keep the crazies happy.

  90. calli

    I’m warming to the Thais.

    They know how to treat the media.

  91. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2759245, posted on July 10, 2018 at 6:57 am

    Long tradition. Battle of Jericho comes to mind.

  92. Boambee John

    Crossie at 2313

    Don’t be too sure, marriages will be the next battlefield and “Are you awake?” will not be considered as an acceptable request for consent for much longer.

    Whatever happened to the “progressive” meme about getting the government out of our bedrooms?

  93. Rafe Champion

    A bit early for full sun and a slow wind day. Wind and other doing less than 1%.

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2759158, posted on July 10, 2018 at 12:14 am

    Woohoo!

    Boris johnson resigns.

    Fuxk off May, you evil witch.

    She’s a goner.
    Trump will be still in the chair long after Merkel and May are gone.

  95. calli

    I don’t believe in God, but I’m prepared to adopt one and pray night & day if it means the operation will be a success

    -Phil Bellette

    Ahh, the old “do what I want and I’ll believe in you” horse-trade.

    The Almighty doesn’t do deals. He’s a take me or leave me kinda guy.

  96. Mother Lode

    Whatever happened to the “progressive” meme about getting the government out of our bedrooms?

    They have taken what happens in the bedroom into the public space, where they feel entitled to regulate it.

    Your sexuality is now subject to legislation, just like your unspoken opinions are construed from how you act in the public space.

  97. Eyrie

    Wind generation in Australia is a rounding error and a nuisance.

  98. feelthebern

    As long as they leave the weirdo coach in the cave, I’ll be happy.
    & maybe they can send in some of the parents in who let their kids go on the excursion with the weirdo coach.

  99. stackja

    1907 ‘NBN’

    July 1907 Trunk calls begin
    The dual-line cables necessary for telephone conversations first linked the Sydney and Melbourne exchanges. The Postmaster-General’s Department completed the main trunk lines to Adelaide in 1914, to Brisbane in 1923 and to Perth in 1930. Tasmania was connected by submarine coaxial cable in 1936.

  100. feelthebern

    Biggest news in America today.
    Clearly leaked today as the SCOTUS decision will swamp all coverage.

    Former Goldman Banker in Plea Talks Over Malaysian 1MDB Scandal

    A former Goldman Sachs Group banker is in talks with U.S. prosecutors to potentially plead guilty to criminal charges stemming from an alleged scheme to steal billions of dollars from a Malaysian state investment fund, people familiar with the matter said.
    The talks bring the investigation closer to Goldman, which raised billions for the Malaysian fund, 1Malaysia Development Bhd. The one-time Goldman partner and Southeast Asia chairman, Tim Leissner, hasn’t been charged and is seeking an agreement that would involve his cooperation with the criminal fraud probe into 1MDB and Goldman, the people said.

    What did Malcolm know about it & when did he know?

  101. pete m

    can someone please summarise what latham said that gave richo a heart attack and of course lefty media the shits?

  102. calli

    Long tradition. Battle of Jericho comes to mind.

    Chuckle. I wonder if a “Rahab” was involved?

    I hope they pinched some shoes too.

  103. woolfe

    Dont normally do this but…

    Former Labor powerbroker Graham Richardson and former Labor leader Mark Latham have traded insults in an fiery exchange on live television.

    As panellists on the Paul Murray Live program on Sky News, Richardson said Latham’s former Labor supporters would be “rolling in their graves” and called him a “king rat” and a “shyster”.

    “You don’t believe anything that comes out of the Labor Party any more — the party that built you, the party that made you. Those people in Green Valley who contributed to you when you were going to university, they’re either rolling in their graves or they’re shaking their heads if they’re still alive,” Richardson said.

    “It’s a tragedy and it’s sad, Mark. You were once on the path to greatness. I don’t know what happened.”

    Latham, equally incensed, responded by referring to Richardson’s former relationship with property developer Ron Medich, allegations of a Swiss bank account and former NSW Labor MP Eddie Obeid.

    “What a load of rubbish, what a load of rubbish,” Richardson replied.

    “I’m not taking lectures from you,” Latham replied. “Don’t you tell me what’s sad.”

    “When it comes to being a shyster, don’t you ever lecture me on personal behaviour,” Richardson responded.

    “You’re not just a rat, You’re a king rat. I’ll tell you something about king rats, it’s not that case that everybody else changes and pure Mark Latham stays the same. That’s what you love to claim.”

    The conversation involved an interview with One Nation senator Pauline Hanson, who said it would be “fantastic” to have Latham on the floor of parliament with her.

    “I have a lot of time for Mark Latham and his views, so do a lot of people in Australia,” she said.

    “I think some of Mark’s knowledge and experience and willing to speak against political correctness is much needed. If I had Mark beside me on the floor of parliament, then fantastic.”

    Latham, meanwhile, did not rule out running on a One Nation ticket but said Australia would benefit from a stronger “third force”.

    “I can tell you for sure in a two party system, if you’re marginally faster than the other slow horse than you win the race,” he said. “And it is a race to the bottom. It’s lowest common denominator stuff … I’ve not made any decision (about running).”

  104. woolfe

    Disappointing that Latham didn’t call him bucket guts.

  105. Top Ender

    On your bike?

    One of Sydney’s major dockless share-bike operators has called it quits, telling members it is “restructuring” its business model and offering two bikes — free — to each of its customers.

    Reddy Go, the only wholly Australian-owned bike-share company, is asking people to take bikes from its Sydney storage centre.

    “Due to regulatory factors, we are currently restructuring our business model,” it said. “We are happy to offer you and a friend a free bike each (total two bikes) as a sign of our gratitude for your loyalty and support.”

  106. Gary

    BorisG
    #2759207, posted on July 10, 2018 at 1:48 am
    Culture is all that matters. Economics can be fixed easily.
    See what I mean?

    Ill suspend my suspicion that your not some chameleon and ask

    How can you get tax, welfare reform without the culture supporting it?

  107. C.L.

    Suicidal drone David Goodall is not done boring us yet …
    This morning it’s revealed that Foreign Correspondent was there to cover his last days and death.
    The suicide promotion will air tonight.

  108. mh

    Farage: I could return as UKIP Leader in March 2019 if Brexit isn’t back on track

    Nigel Farage has threatened to come back into frontline politics as UKIP Leader if Brexit ‘isn’t back on track’ by March 2019, in an article for The Telegraph.

    Nigel wrote: “I never wanted a career in politics. I only ever wanted to stop the country I love being sucked further into a political and economic union which is most unnatural to the instincts of the majority of my fellow citizens.

    “However, my own red line is that if Article 50 is suspended or delayed, I will have no choice but to resume campaigning in all parts of the United Kingdom. In March 2019, the current Leader of UKIP, Gerard Batten, will reach the end of his term in office.

    “Unless Brexit is back on track by then, I will have to seriously consider putting my name forward to return as UKIP Leader. I never thought I would say that again, but the government’s sell-out leaves me with no choice. The latest Brexit betrayal must be reversed.”

    He warned, on his LBC show, that he will make sure Tory MPs in marginal seats who don’t show a backbone on Brexit will ‘all’ lose their seats.

  109. Boambee John

    nemkat
    #2759229, posted on July 10, 2018 at 4:55 am
    Lauren Southern wants to incite our peace lovin Moslems.

    Both of them?

  110. Gary

    feelthebern
    #2759264, posted on July 10, 2018 at 7:48 am
    As long as they leave the weirdo coach in the cave, I’ll be happy.
    & maybe they can send in some of the parents in who let their kids go on the excursion with the weirdo coach

    .

    Give it some time for the detail to be clear.

    Iv done some stupid sh$t my parents didn’t no.

  111. C.L.

    This is what empowerment of women looks like …
    Via Ace, incredible footage of the moment an angry customer at a Milwaukee restaurant goes behind the counter and assaults a waitress. Her colleague had a concealed carry permit and deals with him.

  112. stackja

    Boris Johnson’s resignation letter to British PM Theresa May
    Reuters Staff
    6 MIN READ

    Below is the text of his resignation letter to Prime Minister Theresa May, a copy of which Johnson released on Twitter.

    [Boris Johnson
    ‏Verified account
    @BorisJohnson
    5 hours ago
    I am proud to have served as Foreign Secretary. It is with sadness that I step down: here is my letter explaining why.]

    Dear Theresa,
    It is more than two years since the British people voted to leave the European Union on an unambiguous and categorical promise that if they did so they would be taking back control of their democracy.

  113. stackja

    C.L.
    #2759279, posted on July 10, 2018 at 8:20 am

    Fun!

  114. mh

    Boris Johnson’s letter to the prime minister:

    Dear Theresa
    It is more than two years since the British people voted to leave the European Union on an unambiguous and categorical promise that if they did so they would be taking back control of their democracy.
    They were told that they would be able to manage their own immigration policy, repatriate the sums of UK cash currently spent by the EU, and, above all, that they would be able to pass laws independently and in the interests of the people of this country.
    Brexit should be about opportunity and hope. It should be a chance to do things differently, to be more nimble and dynamic, and to maximise the particular advantages of the UK as an open, outward-looking global economy.
    That dream is dying, suffocated by needless self-doubt.
    We have postponed crucial decisions – including the preparations for no deal, as I argued in my letter to you of last November – with the result that we appear to be heading for a semi-Brexit, with large parts of the economy still locked in the EU system, but with no UK control over that system.
    It now seems that the opening bid of our negotiations involves accepting that we are not actually going to be able to make our own laws. Indeed we seem to have gone backwards since the last Chequers meeting in February, when I described my frustrations, as Mayor of London, in trying to protect cyclists from juggernauts. We had wanted to lower the cabin windows to improve visibility; and even though such designs were already on the market, and even though there had been a horrific spate of deaths, mainly of female cyclists, we were told that we had to wait for the EU to legislate on the matter.
    So at the previous Chequers session we thrashed out an elaborate procedure for divergence from EU rules. But even that now seems to have been taken off the table, and there is in fact no easy UK right of initiative. Yet if Brexit is to mean anything, it must surely give ministers and Parliament the chance to do things differently to protect the public. If a country cannot pass a law to save the lives of female cyclists – when that proposal is supported at every level of UK government – then I don’t see how that country can truly be called independent.
    Conversely, the British government has spent decades arguing against this or that EU directive, on the grounds that it was too burdensome or ill-thought out. We are now in the ludicrous position of asserting that we must accept huge amounts of precisely such EU law, without changing an iota, because it is essential for our economic health – and when we no longer have any ability to influence these laws as they are made.
    In that respect we are truly headed for the status of colony – and many will struggle to see the economic or political advantages of that particular arrangement.
    It is also clear that by surrendering control over our rulebook for goods and agrifoods (and much else besides) we will make it much more difficult to do free trade deals. And then there is the further impediment of having to argue for an impractical and undeliverable customs arrangement unlike any other in existence.
    What is even more disturbing is that this is our opening bid. This is already how we see the end state for the UK – before the other side has made its counter-offer. It is as though we are sending our vanguard into battle with the white flags fluttering above them. Indeed, I was concerned, looking at Friday’s document, that there might be further concessions on immigration, or that we might end up effectively paying for access to the single market.
    On Friday I acknowledged that my side of the argument were too few to prevail, and congratulated you on at least reaching a cabinet decision on the way forward. As I said then, the government now has a song to sing. The trouble is that I have practised the words over the weekend and find that they stick in the throat. We must have collective responsibility. Since I cannot in all conscience champion these proposals, I have sadly concluded that I must go.
    I am proud to have served as Foreign Secretary in your government. As I step down, I would like first to thank the patient officers of the Metropolitan Police who have looked after me and my family, at times in demanding circumstances. I am proud too of the extraordinary men and women of our diplomatic service. Over the last few months they have shown how many friends this country has around the world, as 28 governments expelled Russian spies in an unprecedented protest at the attempted assassination of the Skripals. They have organised a highly successful Commonwealth summit and secured record international support for this government’s campaign for 12 years of quality education for every girl, and much more besides. As I leave office, the FCO now has the largest and by far the most effective diplomatic network of any country in Europe — a continent which we will never leave.
    The Rt Hon Boris Johnson MP

  115. stackja

    Pasco firefighters help save man, then return to save his lawn

    HUDSON — There was still a lot of work to be done when Gene Work felt the first signs of what he would later learn was a massive heart attack.

    It was Saturday afternoon, in the hot, humid conditions of July. Work was trying to resod his yard before the homeowners association issued a large fine, according to a Facebook post by his wife, Melissa.

    The final four palettes of sod arrived, then Gene Work began to feel ill. He went inside. Melissa Work said she knew something was wrong.

    The 40-year-old husband collapsed onto the couch. His wife called 911.

    In and out of consciousness, Melissa Work said her husband continued to worry about the grass. He had pawned his favorite gun to purchase the sod and if it wasn’t put down that day, it would all die.

    “While he was having his heart attack, literally in and out of consciousness, he kept begging me to figure out the sod and have it put down because he didn’t want it to go to waste and die,” the wife wrote on Facebook. “I calmed him and kept saying ‘Jesus will help us. It’s OK. Jesus will figure this out babe.’”

    They didn’t want to get hit with the HOA fines, and 30-year-old Melissa Work — who needs a bone marrow transplant — had scheduled the painful and expensive procedure for next month. But she continued to reassure him that they would be all right, that it all would work out in the end.

    Pasco County Fire Rescue took Gene and Melissa Work to the hospital. Gene Work’s brother, Mark Rouco, stayed behind. He was now determined to say as long as needed to replant the sod.

    “Mark knew how important it was to Gene,” said Melissa Work said.

    As Rouco was back at it when he saw the two emergency vehicles that had treated his brother returned to the house. Rouco thought they were coming back to check on him — instead, seven firefighters got out and said they were there to help with the grass.

    They knew that the sod would soon die while Gene Work wouldn’t be able to do anything about it in the hospital.

    Together, they laid out the new lawn in just one hour.

    When Gene Work woke up in the hospital, his wife told him that the firefighters had helped save the sod.

    “They don’t know what family they just helped,” Melissa Work said. “Gene said we had to find them and thank them, we had to tell everyone about this kindness.

    “I mean, they saved his life and then came back to save his grass. That’s just so awesome.”

    The wife’s timing was also awesome. Doctors later told her that if she had waited any longer to call for an ambulance her husband might not have made it. They told her that there he had a significant blockage. He underwent surgery and had stents inserted.

  116. calli

    Kochie’s back with the Mars bars and the cave rescue.

    Perhaps he’s done a deal with the manufacturer.

    The Thais have got the chooks scratching around in the dust. Good.

  117. Rae

    Nemskull is just Grrglry wanking into a sock.

    No. That can’t be right. In your Tour de Force opus Grigor and Beth you described something else. Definitely not “wanking”.

    [G & B was your only work of note. Everything since has been drivel. Or dribble. Either works]

  118. stackja

    Harvey Weinstein Pleads Not Guilty, Released on Bail | Time
    time.com › Entertainment › Crime
    8 hours ago – Harvey Weinstein was released on bail while fighting sex crime … District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. said the 66-year-old Weinstein is charged …

    Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr. Has a Bad Habit of …
    https://www.vogue.com/…/cyrus-vance-jr-didnt-prosecute-weinstein-ivanka-donald-tr…
    Oct 13, 2017 – These are dark times for Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr., as two high-profile investigative reports—about Harvey Weinstein and …

    Cyrus Vance
    Former United States Secretary of State
    Cyrus Roberts Vance was an American lawyer and United States Secretary of State under President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1980. Prior to that position he was the Secretary of the Army and the Deputy Secretary of Defense.
    Children: Cyrus Vance Jr.
    Wikipedia

    Cyrus Roberts Vance Jr. is the incumbent New York County District Attorney, and was previously a principal at the law firm of Morvillo, Abramowitz, Grand, Iason, Anello & Bohrer, P.C. Wikipedia

  119. cohenite

    nemkat
    #2759229, posted on July 10, 2018 at 4:55 am
    Lauren Southern wants to incite our peace lovin Moslems.

    Both of them?

    Muslims and peace is an oxymoron.

    What a pleasure it would be to have a conservative gal here; I mean the last conservative we had here was Milo.

  120. stackja

    How young you feel may reflect the true age of your brain
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322370.php
    4 days ago – A first-of-its-kind study uses brain scans to reveal a link between the subjective feeling of one’s age and the real age of one’s brain.

  121. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2759272, posted on July 10, 2018 at 8:02 am
    On your bike?

    One of Sydney’s major dockless share-bike operators has called it quits, telling members it is “restructuring” its business model and offering two bikes — free — to each of its customers.

    Reddy Go, the only wholly Australian-owned bike-share company, is asking people to take bikes from its Sydney storage centre.

    “Due to regulatory factors, we are currently restructuring our business model,” it said. “We are happy to offer you and a friend a free bike each (total two bikes) as a sign of our gratitude for your loyalty and support.”

    Clover Moore?

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yay, Newcastle is now up there with Milan, Bern and Houston!

    Comparing Average Rent In 540 Cities Around The Globe

  123. Cats who are nervous about Huawei …

    Be afraid …

  124. Rae

    Latham, meanwhile, did not rule out running on a One Nation ticket but said Australia would benefit from a stronger “third force”.

    “I can tell you for sure in a two party system, if you’re marginally faster than the other slow horse than you win the race,” he said. “And it is a race to the bottom. It’s lowest common denominator stuff … I’ve not made any decision (about running).”

    Pauline might just be the only one dense enough or desperate enough to let Latham into what’s left of her “party”. But she, and his boosters here, will quickly find that he’s no vote-winner. Latham is still the ratbag who lost an un-loseable election by trying to arm-wrestle Johnny Howard. Just the sound of his voice is enough to turn the voters away, let alone pictures of his deranged countenance on any election propaganda.

  125. Could someone with the name “Nigel” be a success in politics anywhere but England?

  126. calli

    “Due to regulatory factors, we are currently restructuring our business model,” it said. “We are happy to offer you and a friend a free bike each (total two bikes) as a sign of our gratitude for your loyalty and support.”

    London to a brick that was a heavily subsidised operation. Otherwise they’d be selling them for a nominal amount.

    Good riddance.

  127. Leigh Lowe

    Give it some time for the detail to be clear.

    Iv done some stupid sh$t my parents didn’t no.

    Let he who didn’t do something monumentally stupid in their twenties cast the first stone.

  128. Baldrick

    Change of shift for the Troll’s 👹™
    You know what to do.

  129. Leigh Lowe

    The Thais have got the chooks scratching around in the dust. Good.

    Compare and contrast with the Beaconsfield circus.
    At least there was some attrition among the feeding pack at Beaconsfield.
    We can but hope.

  130. Percy Popinjay

    I’ve just tried to read Phatty Adams weekly column in the Oz – a typically pretentious rant on his rampant Trump Derangment Syndrome.

    Here’s hoping Trump winning a second term causes Adam’s fat empty head to explode.

  131. 5. “Quantitative easing for people”

    Oh dear god a social credit crackpot.

    Cue the “physical economy triple curve” and La Rouchite economics such as a “mathematically perfected economy”.

    Yes Corbyn is bad, he’s even bad for a communist.

  132. Some History

    For anyone interested.

    Volume up.

    … smooth

    By My Side – Jeff Lorber

  133. Latham is still the ratbag who lost an un-loseable election by trying to arm-wrestle Johnny Howard.

    Let’s not go nuts. Latham was never going to win. Howard was at his peak of popularity then.

    “There was a poll” – it was bullshit.

  134. cohenite

    I think Latham would do well if he returned to politics.

  135. Infidel Tiger

    Rumour is that Kavanaugh is going to win SCOTUS Season 2.

    Sad. He’s the worst of all finalists.

  136. Cats who are nervous about Huawei …

    Former Defence Department boss Dennis Richardson labels claims Huawei sponsored the Canberra Raiders to have access to him and chairman Allan Hawke as bizarre.

    Well, sometimes espionage is bizarre, even to the point of being ludicrous and stranger than fiction.

    I’m not surprised that Huaiweis are banned from the NBN or any Defence facility (AFAIK).

    Think of AAPL though. Made by Foxconn.

    Just assume everyone is actually spying on you.

  137. johanna

    Yep, theirABC has no opinions at all in its coverage, for example:

    British Prime Minister Theresa May has appointed Jeremy Hunt as foreign minister after predecessor Boris Johnson resigned in protest at the Government’s plans for a close trading relationship with the European Union.

    See what they did there? It’s an out and out lie. Neither Boris nor any other Brexiteer objects to a close trading relationship with the EU. They are objecting to effectively staying in the EU, being ruled by it in trade and commerce and agriculture and numerous other ways, while pretending to exit.

    That description of what is going on in Britain is so dishonest that it rivals the crap Donald Trump has to put up with every day from the MSM.

  138. stackja

    cohenite
    #2759302, posted on July 10, 2018 at 9:09 am
    I think Latham would do well if he returned to politics.

    Menzies 1941 resigned. Then 1949-1966.

  139. feelthebern

    Rumour is that Kavanaugh is going to win SCOTUS Season 2.

    Hardiman all the way.
    Trump wants to say : he really is a HARD-E-MAN.

  140. I hope Trump picks Hardiman for SCOTUS.
    He’s the most stare decisis of the bunch.
    Gotta give Roberts & Gorsuch a hand & make it 3-6.
    Trump making the SCOTUS a 5-4 stare decisis court by 2020 would be his greatest gift to America.
    Anyone who clerked for Scalia is only on Trumps list to keep the crazies happy.

    There is no reason to respect precedents that have themselves flouted past precedent. Doe v Bolton, Roe v Wade, Planned Parenthood v Casey, et al are a terrible set of decisions with respect to fact and law and the use of stare decisis to continue the injustice they represent is a travesty.

  141. Des Deskperson

    I don’t have a particularly firm position on euthanasia, but the way that the ABC is still flogging the ‘assisted death’ of that self-promoting, sanctimonious old nuisance David Goodall, using my taxes:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-10/david-goodalls-appointment-with-death-and-his-final-hour/9935152

    is greatly annoying me. The fact that the ABC is using the programme ‘Foreign Correspondent’ – a show that should be dealing with important or at least interesting world events – to push this is a particularly clumsy form of stage management.

    ‘With characteristic determination, he manages to push the lever’. Spare us. An ‘internationally renowned plant scientist has never lived life in half measures’ couldn’t even kill himself by himself, something that 8 Australians a day, most of without any of his taxpayer-funded advantages and privileges, manage to do.

  142. feelthebern

    Think of AAPL though. Made by Foxconn.

    Think of AT&T, in bed with the NSA.

  143. feelthebern

    There is no reason to respect precedents that have themselves flouted past precedent. Doe v Bolton, Roe v Wade, Planned Parenthood v Casey, et al are a terrible set of decisions with respect to fact and law and the use of stare decisis to continue the injustice they represent is a travesty.

    If the legislature changes laws, a stare decisis court would recognise states rights.

  144. Infidel Tiger

    Hardiman is the worst.

  145. feelthebern

    If you want the law changed, do it the proper way.
    Via the ballot box.
    Not via the Supreme Court.

  146. I know right, bern? The surveillance state is everywhere.

    It is ubiquitous as it is unpleasant.

    TLS has been offering more snooping to governments in Australia recently. Apparently, it is all anonymised, but if you also can access metadata…well, nothing is actually anonymised.

  147. feelthebern

    Fuck off IT.
    You pronounced your man-love for Jeremy the Communist here last night.
    The interwebs are forever.

  148. feelthebern

    China is not our friend.
    They just want to own our shit.
    USA is not our friend.
    They just don’t want anyone else to be top dog.

  149. C.L.

    There are also ‘rumours’ that Amy Barrett is on a flight to DC as we speak.

  150. C.L.

    Kochie’s back with the Mars bars and the cave rescue.

    This is the weirdest culture reference to Mars bars since the police raid on Keith Richards’ house in 1967.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/a-mars-bar-fills-that-gap/

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Corbyn is what happens when housing becomes unaffordable and the scum in the City are the only ones seeing any income growth.

    Same is happening here.

    Smash the corporatist state.

  152. mh

    Trump will be still in the chair long after Merkel and May are gone.

    Trump should hold talks this weekend with Rees-Mogg and Boris during his visit. And
    Nigel.

  153. feelthebern

    You’ve been partying with Ben Cousins IT.
    Get back in touch when the persian rugs are out of your system.

  154. feelthebern

    In 2020, Trump & Putin will still be going to APEC summits.
    None of the current crop will be.

  155. stackja

    A.B.C. To Take Parliament
    On the days on which the Federal Parliament broadcasts take place, the normal ABC programmes will be subject to revision. 1946

  156. Rockdoctor

    Think this explains the Thai authorities reaction to the media in the Cave Rescue. Thought they were pushing boundaries, only talks about Thai media but it would be certain foreign media would also be guilty:

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1500782/media-behaviour-comes-under-fire

  157. stackja

    Heavily pregnant woman robbed of handbag – Canley Vale [NSW Police]

    Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:02:44 AM

    An investigation is underway after a heavily pregnant woman had her handbag stolen in Canley Vale yesterday.

    Between 5pm and 5.20pm (Monday 9 July 2018), a 23-year-old woman, who is 9-months pregnant, left Canley Vale Railway Station and started walking towards First Avenue where she was due to meet her husband.

    While she was waiting, a man grabbed her handbag that was over her shoulder, and started dragging her down a concrete walkway. The woman let go of her bag and the man started to run.

    A man came to the woman’s aid and started chasing the offending man down Third Avenue. His wife, who had come to pick him up from the station, saw him chasing the thief and started following in her car.

    She picked her husband up and they continued pursuing the thief as he ran down Prospect Road. They lost sight of him as he started kicking in fences and running through backyards.

    Police were called and attended Canley Vale Railway Station where they spoke with the pregnant woman. She was taken to Liverpool Hospital where she was admitted to the Birthing Unit for treatment to cuts and abrasions, and observation. She has since been released.

    The man has been described as being aged in his 20s with a medium build and short brown hair. He was wearing a grey tracksuit top with blue stripes, and dark coloured track pants.

    Detectives from Fairfield City have commenced inquiries and would like to speak with anyone who may have information that could assist.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2759313, posted on July 10, 2018 at 9:20 am

    Hardiman is the worst.

    Merrick Garland has bi-partisan support.

  159. If you want the law changed, do it the proper way.
    Via the ballot box.
    Not via the Supreme Court.

    Rubbish. Is your argument that bad SCOTUS decisions can only be changed by constitutional amendment, while the Left is free to create bad precedents and conservative judges are honour bound to maintain them during appeal?

  160. johanna

    calli
    #2759253, posted on July 10, 2018 at 7:32 am

    I’m warming to the Thais.

    They know how to treat the media.

    Yes indeed. They do not regard this local emergency as automatic fodder for the vultures. They despise them, as we all should.

    Also, many people have the impression that Thais, because they are usually very polite, are soft and weak. Big mistake.

  161. hzhousewife

    Thank you, mh for posting the two letters of resignation, David Davis and Boris Johnson. It’s always interesting to compare Primary sources with the later commentary.

  162. feelthebern

    Rubbish. Is your argument that bad SCOTUS decisions can only be changed by constitutional amendment, while the Left is free to create bad precedents and conservative judges are honour bound to maintain them during appeal?

    You sound like Muslim chap on Q&A.
    Of course I don’t mean that.
    But isn’t it better not to have people running off to SCOTUS every time they disagree with the umpire ?

  163. Leigh Lowe

    The lezzo-Nazis at The Age have finally jumped the shark.

  164. struth

    Good Moaning.

    This may be from last year but in regards to Brexit is rather interesting.

  165. feelthebern

    & DB, all the more reason to stack SCOTUS with young, stare decisis judges.
    20+ years of that will breed the activism industry out of existence.

  166. Death Giraffe

    There’s one area in economics which is as close to true as the laws of thermo dynamics. Lots of arguments can be had about almost every topic in economics, but not this one. Trade. Open markets offer the best opportunity for people.

    ..
    How is the EU an “open market”?
    http://www.tullverket.se/en/business/taricthecustomstariff/tarifffiledistributiontf.4.7df61c5915510cfe9e760d4.html

  167. struth

    Pauline might just be the only one dense enough or desperate enough to let Latham into what’s left of her “party”. But she, and his boosters here, will quickly find that he’s no vote-winner. Latham is still the ratbag who lost an un-loseable election by trying to arm-wrestle Johnny Howard. Just the sound of his voice is enough to turn the voters away, let alone pictures of his deranged countenance on any election propaganda.

    Fear trying to tell itself there is nothing to worry about.

  168. C.L.

    Comment: A curfew for men? What a great idea

    If there was a curfew for men, women would simply start rocking up to men’s homes.
    It’s a simple variation of my law of clubs:

    It is a truism that whenever women force their way into a club, the club declines into mediocrity. The men start leaving to go elsewhere, then women follow them there, instead.

  169. It’s called “invading male spaces”, C.L.

    Every men’s shed must be Gillarded.

  170. Roger

    Boris resigns.

    Now for the no confidence motion before the House rises on 20 July.

  171. Filbert

    An old mate of mine has just released a book called Wolfsberg.
    His grandfather, 43rd Bn CO, was awarded the DSO for “the capture of the village of Le Hamel”.
    This historical novel is a terrific piece of literature with stunning attention to long forgotten detail.

    If you click on the cover you can read a sample for free on Oz Amazon
    I’d be surprised if you could put it down after page 2.
    Would love to hear your opinions.

  172. Nick

    A curfew for men ? Great. I hope that includes all men from the police, firemen, taxi drivers, hipster batsmen. Enjoy your night out ladies.

  173. Mother Lode

    Change of shift for the Troll’s

    More like just changing hands.

  174. struth

    A curfew for men ?

    Enforced by who?

  175. You sound like Muslim chap on Q&A.
    Of course I don’t mean that.
    But isn’t it better not to have people running off to SCOTUS every time they disagree with the umpire ?

    Then what is the point of saying SCOTUS should not overturn bad law? Roe is bad law. It was so bad that the majority in Casey felt it necessary to partly ground their upholding of Roe on stare decisis grounds. This is just dumb. Stare decisis is a prudential maxim correctly applied where we have a continuous series of coherent decisions and they are not obviously or grossly unjust, not to a decision that breaks from that series and/or is obviously/ grossly unjust.

  176. Trump drops the mic at 11am, our time.

  177. Geriatric Mayfly

    A friend (now former) in Surrey keeps sending me variations of that mind-numbing, tuneless, repetitive slogan “It’s Coming Home.” Dear god! Make me not mad.

  178. Roger

    That piece about a curfew for men is tongue in cheek, surely?

    Note that she knows the problem isn’t men in general but just “some evil dudes”.

    Now, women have a right to be out and about late at night, but they also have a responsibility to themselves to guard against those “evil dudes” with reasonable precautions. Alas, at that point common sense gives way to ideology.

  179. stackja

    C.L.
    #2759329, posted on July 10, 2018 at 9:34 am
    Australia the dumb:

    Voters can have the final say. Will they?

  180. Geriatric Mayfly

    A curfew for men ?

    And chastity belts for women.

  181. Mater

    Comment: A curfew for men?

    So only men willing to break the law will be out on the prowl. That’ll work!

  182. stackja

    At an Imperial Conference held in 1909, it was decided to deploy to Australian waters a naval unit consisting of at least a battle cruiser, three second class cruisers, six destroyers, three submarines and a number of auxiliaries. Detailed discussions were held on 19 August 1909 between representatives of the British Admiralty and the Australian Government that resulted in a decision to proceed with the establishment of an Australian Fleet Unit. The first units of this Navy, the destroyers, HMA Ships Yarra and Parramatta, reached Australian waters in November 1910 and in the following year on 10 July 1911, His Majesty King George V granted the title of ‘Royal Australian Navy’ to the Commonwealth Naval Forces.

  183. Mak Siccar

    For None.

    From The Oz.

    AN HOUR AGO | 9.15AM
    Musk visits caves

    Elon Musk has visited the Tham Luang cave, and left his ‘kid sized submarine’ there in case it’s needed in the future. He has nmed the sub Wild Boar after the soccer team.

  184. Tom

    Trump drops the mic at 11am, our time.

    US cable TV has talked about nothing else for the past five days. Trump has turned US politics into a top-rating reality TV show (except for fake news CNN, whose audience has deserted it in the past year).

    POTUS is in the process of killing not only CNN, but the New York Times and Wapo, who he has pledged will be out of business by the time he leaves office.

  185. stackja

    The Battle of Britain was a military campaign of the Second World War, in which the Royal Air Force defended the United Kingdom against large-scale attacks by Nazi Germany’s air force, the Luftwaffe. Wikipedia
    Dates: 10 Jul. 1940 – 31 Oct. 1940

  186. Leigh Lowe

    Trump drops the mic at 11am, our time.

    I hope he does it Miss Universe style.
    They all line up … he grabs the envelope … cut to ad break … return to announce winner … lots of air-kisses and he crowns the winner with a horsehair wig.

  187. Infidel Tiger

    Terrible news. It’s Kavanaugh.

  188. stackja

    feelthebern
    #2759335, posted on July 10, 2018 at 9:40 am

    Marbury v. Madison – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison
    Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137 (1803), was a U.S. Supreme Court case that established the principle of judicial review in the United States, so that American courts have the power to strike down laws, statutes, and executive actions that contravene the U.S. Constitution.

  189. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2759362, posted on July 10, 2018 at 10:24 am
    Terrible news. It’s Kavanaugh.

    Rumors?

  190. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #2759356, posted on July 10, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Comment: A curfew for men?

    So only men willing to break the law will be out on the prowl. That’ll work!

    Going to put a crimp in the gay doof-doof nightclub business.

  191. johanna

    From the politician who banned proper light globes, now responding to a forthcoming report on energy prices:

    he Government is under pressure from its own side to consider a royal commission into high energy prices.

    While the Prime Minister has dismissed those calls, he has announced that a major report by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) into the cost of electricity will be released this week.

    “It’s a very, very comprehensive report,” he said.

    “It’ll bear a lot of careful consideration and discussion.

    “It will be a very, very illuminating report.”

    Nice to hear that Maocolm is in favour of illumination, in contrast to his actions when he banned it.

    BTW, if anyone thinks that the ACCC report will change anything, I have a bridge on special offer.

  192. Mother Lode

    Comment: A curfew for men?

    Gawd!

    Frighbats are really just over-the-hill school girls.

    The same fixation with boy-germs, how boys are stupid and clumsy and suck at elastics. The fixation on their sexual organs. The naughty thrill at using swear words.

    And the same pubescent conviction that they know everything worth knowing, and people who disagree do so because they are stupid.

    I will bet even that sagging old frightbat Ann Summers still closes her eyes and thinks about what she will do when she grows up.

  193. It’s a sad reflection of politics in this country that I would rather a former Labor leader return to politics than a former Liberal leader return as PM.

  194. Terrible news. It’s Kavanaugh.

    Buzzkill.

  195. johanna

    steve trickler, you are an ornament to this site.

    I love your music clips, which often introduce me to artists I have not heard of.

    Keep it up!

  196. stackja

    Liberal Senator James Paterson has backed Cabinet minister Dan Tehan’s call for a religious discrimination act, arguing that people of faith are being “hounded out of the public square”. Source: The Australian.

    Senator Paterson said he was not aware of any examples of people’s religious rights being trampled or undermined since same-sex marriage was legalised last year, but argued protections were needed as “reassurance”.

    On the weekend, Mr Tehan argued people of faith needed greater protections from the rise of “minority fundamentalism” and the “creeping encroachment from the state on religious belief” following the legalisation of same-sex marriage, the passage of assisted dying legislation in Victoria, and the introduction of laws compelling priests to break the seal of the confessional to report child sex abuse.

    Senator Paterson said Australia was a secular country and he believed as an agnostic that religious freedom must be protected.

    “It’s a right which Australia has signed numerous international treaties to say that we will protect, and secular societies more than any other must protect the pluralistic nature that allows us to freely worship who be believe, but also live out our values in the world,” he told ABC radio.

    Asked who was currently being discriminated against, Senator Paterson said: “This is a risk that we want to guard against in the future. We don’t want people to be mistreated on the basis of their religious views.”

    Pressed on whether the problem exists currently, he said: “I think that’s a bit of a negative focus to take on it.

    “People of faith feel like they are being hounded out of the public square.

    “They feel like their views are not as welcome in being contributed to public debate as others.”

    Asked whether he could name specific people or faiths, Senator Paterson said “people generally of faith” felt it.

    “I think Christians feel that more than others because Christians in this country have generally been in the past a clear majority, but trends show that they’re becoming an increasingly smaller group of our society, and as a result they feel like the place they once held in public debate and in public life is not as secure as it was, and you see people who espouse their views in public debate getting attacked increasingly viciously.”

    FULL STORY

    Liberal MP James Paterson backs call for religious discrimination act (The Australian)

  197. Geriatric Mayfly

    The countdown has begun. Within the hour, head explosions will erupt with such volcanic intensity, that safe exclusion zones will be impossible to find.

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yay! Blair is back from web.

    I’m entirely up to speed on Brazil’s World Cup diving success, know everything about Bert Newton’s controversial plastic bag ban at the Logies, am enthralled by the marriage of David Leyonhjelm to Sarah Hanson-Young and can’t wait to see how the embrace of western civilisation by Australian universities plays out.

    And one of his first posts is about our gracious Doomlord:

    “THAT’S NOT HOW JOURNALISM WORKS”

    Doomie also gets a plug over at Boltas:

    THE ABC’S ‘EASE OF STORYTELLING’

    Rabz ’em!

  199. Top Ender

    Singapore would have something to say aboiut this:

    Bailed teen trashed house ‘to be like his friends’
    REBEKAH CAVANAGH

    A teenager who joined in trashing a luxury Airbnb rental home while out on bail says he was just copying his mates.

    The 17-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, told police he hurled furniture through a glass door of the $3 million home in Hastings Road, Hawthorn East, “because a group of friends did the same”.

    It was the only excuse he offered police. And the teenager, who is the only person charged so far, refused to name any of the 40 to 50 African youths who were involved in last Saturday night’s outof-control party.

    The teen pleaded guilty in a Children’s Court on Friday to criminal damage, possessing cannabis and committing an indictable offence while on bail.

    He also pleaded guilty to four charges relating to a gang assault on a man at a South Melbourne McDonald’s in January and to the robbery of a passenger on a Pakenham-bound train in May.

    Police received six calls overnight about Saturday’s party but never went inside the property.

    The first call was from a frightened neighbour who found an African male in her backyard at 9.06pm. The male told her he had been locked out.

    At 1.09am, police were called again after a girl banged on the door of another house, saying she had been assaulted.

    Police revisited at 2.07am after a noise complaint and observed “40 to 50 young persons of African appearance”.

    Residents called police to complain about noise again at 3.53am, 4.07am and 4.09am.

    A protective services officer who lived in the street was robbed as he left for work at 6am. Police arrived soon after and used capsicum spray to disperse the crowd.

    On entering the house they found damage to plaster walls and wiring, smashed windows and doors, upturned furniture and graffiti. As much as $300,000 of damage was caused. In the garage, windows and panels of a Mercedes-Benz car were smashed.

    An application for $1000 compensation — the maximum that can be made in the Children’s Court — has been lodged against the teen.

    Investigators could identify the teen in footage posted on social media that showed the lounge chair being thrown through a glass door.

    The court heard the property had been rented on Airbnb for the night, for $330, by an African woman saying she was having a get-together with female friends, some of them visiting from Adelaide. She has been identified and questioned, but no charges have been laid.

    Remanding the teen for sentencing, magistrate Pauline Spencer told him: “The offending I have heard about is not acceptable.”

    HERALD SUN

  200. EvilElvis

    How young you feel may reflect the true age of your brain

    That makes sense. I always maintain I’ve got the attitude of a grumpy 82 year old man, in the body of a 65 year old substance abuser, who’s actually mid 40’s, with the mentality of a 6 year old school girl.

  201. I wonder which PM Trump will be meeting? PM Moog, PM Johnson, PM Davis?

    Brexit has been an utter joke. By the time it is done the High Court will rule that a second ballot has to take place to “confirm the decision” because of all the new voters and people who have died since the 2016 vote. That feckless biatch has just been keeping the circus going in order to get to this point and the others have only just woken up to this. Corbyn would do exactly the same if he got in. The whole thing should have been done and dusted last year.

    It’s easier to cancel a gym membership than leave the EU and that’s saying something.

  202. johanna

    Former Defence Department boss Dennis Richardson labels claims Huawei sponsored the Canberra Raiders to have access to him and chairman Allan Hawke as bizarre.

    It’s bizarre, all right. I worked with Dennis Richardson, a kid from the working class who is Australian through and through and had seen every scam going long before he got to the top.

    As C P Snow said – ‘It would be like offering Robespierre a five pound note.’

    Not to say they weren’t trying, or spreading their bets. But, the implication is that it was worth doing.

  203. Mother Lode

    “They feel like their views are not as welcome in being contributed to public debate as others.”

    I reckon he is right.

    But only Christians of course.

    Funny thing is that the talking heads that mock Christians as being gullible simpletons, bandying about words like sky-fairy and such, tend not to be the brightest or best informed thinkers themselves.

  204. Leigh Lowe

    Top Ender

    #2759377, posted on July 10, 2018 at 10:44 am

    Singapore would have something to say aboiut this:

    Kind of related in a way …
    Reports this morning of the “undocked share-bike” business falling over in Sydney.
    The same thing happened in Melbourne with o-bike, which was develop in China and introduced by a Singaporean company. No-one would dream of just dropping a bike on the footpath in Singapore and they would cop a whack if they did, but that became the norm in Melbourne. The super-busy hipsters didn’t have the time to flick the bike stand down and put it out of the way … just hop off and drop it. It became as sign of cool to just pull up, drop it and walk away.

  205. Tom

    OMFG. Soros has hired a zombie rent-a-crowd to be shouted at through a loud hailer outside the Supreme Court in DC.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    Terrible news. It’s Kavanaugh.

    Please let it not be a sheila.
    They are totally unreliable and they live forever once you put them on the bench.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    The countdown has begun. Within the hour, head explosions will erupt with such volcanic intensity, that safe exclusion zones will be impossible to find.

    They don’t like it up ’em, Captain Mainwaring, suh!

  208. P

    White House. President Trump Supreme Court Nominee Announcement: President Trump announces his pick for the Supreme Court to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy
    LIVE in 5.

  209. EvilElvis

    This is what empowerment of women looks like

    There’s a litany of ‘don’t go there’ politically correct hot points in that video, sheesh, where do you start?

  210. Confused Old Misfit

    It’s Willett!

  211. cohenite

    Mrs Trump gets a standing ovation. No snowflakes in this crowd.

  212. cohenite

    Here’s the big guy

  213. Confused Old Misfit

    It’s a constitutionalist.

  214. johanna

    I am not making this up. This is what happens when everyone should go to university:

    In this brief, feminist analysis of Hot Ones, I explore the show’s gastronomic strategy for dismantling fame’s public façade and creating a sense of “authentic” celebrity, which male and female guests navigate in divergent ways. My analysis of Hot Ones informs feminist media studies, as it reveals how this YouTube show creates, maintains, and manipulates inequitable gender hierarchies through the interrelated performances of gender, food consumption, and celebrity.

    and

    Culturally coded as a masculine food, chicken wings (spicy or not) are situated within “bro” media and spaces, appearing throughout the menus, programming, and advertising at sports bars and at-home football-viewing parties, particularly the Super Bowl. With regard to spiciness specifically, physiologists assert that testosterone levels influence the consumption of spicy foods, inherently linking masculinity to fiery tastes.

    Yep, chicken wings are now the subject of academic discourse in publicly funded universities. They are clearly running out of things to complain about.

    Meanwhile, US students incurring lifelong debt, or their parents who are paying for this crap, should take a deep beath and reconsider their options.

  215. Leigh Lowe

    Auto-Report …
    There were audible gasps and muffled sobs when Trump announced [xxxxxxx] as his nominee for the Supreme Court.
    A black single mother who had traveled all the way from [yyyyy] shook her head and said, “This is not my America.”

  216. Confused Old Misfit

    It’s Kavanaugh.

  217. Leigh Lowe

    IT was right.
    BK for Scotus

  218. Zatara

    Kavanaugh.

    A solid choice. Born in 1965 so has a good use by date.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    Massive mistake by trump.

    It’s all over.

    Pack up the caravan.

  220. Tom

    Let the DNC playground meltdown begin. Kavenaugh is the nominee because a woman wouldn’t have survived the Alinkyist smear campaign that was coming whoever the nominee.

  221. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2759404, posted on July 10, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Hyperbowl!

  222. Infidel Tiger

    Trump has always been a huge fan of abortion and single payer healthcare.

    Kavanaugh is the right choice for attacking religious liberty too.

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