Wednesday Forum: July, 11, 2018

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  1. hzhousewife

    These young teenagers, who die texting, or in Dad’s car stacked with friends after a party when a tree jumps out in front of them, or eating “candy” at a pop concert, are always such caring and funny people. The world would be such a better place if they had lived. As far as “engagement with the family” goes, mostly they’re pissed off at not getting their way at home, or free money.
    As JBP says, how’s that working out for you?

  2. Des Deskperson

    Possible brain fugues over at the ABC today over Iceland.

    First. we are being told that Iceland is the best place in the word to be a woman:

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/where-is-the-best-place-in-the-world-to-be-a-woman/9971744

    But then the bastards went and killed a blue whale:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-07-12/blue-whale-harpooned-by-icelandic-company-sea-shepherd-says/9984158

    Do whales beat women in victim poker??

    Since Iceland’s population is only 337,780 – smaller than the ACT- I’m surprised anyone gives a s**t either way.

  3. pete m

    maybe a few horny cops decided to bring Stormy in for a pat down / frisk?

    eh eh?

  4. pete m

    ha, great post for top of the page !

  5. johanna

    Peter Strzok now has won the prize for the most punchable face on the planet. What an arrogant jerk.

    His half-smiling, contemptuous attitude was insufferable to watch. You could see that Trey Gowdy (and no doubt several others) just wanted to vault over the rail and bust the smarmy little smart-arse in the chops.

    Full marks to Gomert, though. After asking Strzok a series of questions about whether he’d told the truth about this and that (of course I did!) he slipped in one about how often he told the truth to Mrs Strzok while he was banging Lisa Page. A low blow, but richly deserved in the circumstances.

    Of course the Democrats, who would never smear anyone about their alleged sexual behaviour, went ballistic. Great fun to watch. 🙂

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  7. Leo G

    Peter Strzok now has won the prize for the most punchable face on the planet.

    “I’m unbiased, but my texts were based on Trump’s horrible, disgusting behaviour” says the FBI agent who doesn’t think cheating on his wife with an FBI colleague is horrible disgusting behaviour.

  8. C.L.

    Michelle Grattan:
    ‘You know, it would really be in Malcolm Turnbull’s political interest to ban religious freedom.’

    Where else but left-wing hate site, ABC Online?

  9. Chris

    These young teenagers, who die texting, or in Dad’s car stacked with friends after a party when a tree jumps out in front of them, or eating “candy” at a pop concert, are always such caring and funny people. The world would be such a better place if they had lived. As far as “engagement with the family” goes, mostly they’re pissed off at not getting their way at home, or free money.
    As JBP says, how’s that working out for you?

    We had one from our kids’ high school die in a balcony fall at a party. News had him as a promising student, but neighbour’s daughter knew that circle and said he was a doubtful character and known for taking any pills going.

  10. calli

    Why should Centrepoint skywalk be closed down because a couple of overwrought men gave in to the temptation to suicide?

  11. EvilElvis

    We had one from our kids’ high school die in a balcony fall at a party. News had him as a promising student, but neighbour’s daughter knew that circle and said he was a doubtful character and known for taking any pills going.

    Just like the opening scene of that great movie, The Guard. It’s all about the feelz the aftermath, no good comes from the truth to a grief stricken family.

  12. Rae

    Why should Centrepoint skywalk be closed down because a couple of overwrought men gave in to the temptation to suicide?

    The first one was a woman. Only the latest one was a man (just).

    [No biggie. Don’t get overwrought about it.]

  13. Geriatric Mayfly

    Yes, there will be a great deal of emotional reaction on both sides to the blue whale incident. However, the hard facts are that this species was brought to the verge of extinction, by those methods tried and true of greed and plunder. The largest mammal ever to exist deserves some consideration if its existence is brought to the point of peril – as does the smallest. ‘Go forth and multiply and subdue the earth,’ is one of many lines in scripture that should be excised. We have done sufficiently well on both counts.

  14. C.L.

    In the era of candles ‘n teddies, falling off a balcony while texting your drug dealer is only shameful when you land on a refugee.

  15. struth

    The FBI are the main swamp monsters as far as I can tell.
    They are defending the swamp with “on going investigations” in not answering questions.
    This “ongoing investigation” will need to be kept ongoing until they can get a bullet into Trump’s head.

    The smarmy attitude to those superior unelected bureaucrats frustrated with letting the inferior have a say in running the country with the irritant called democracy, will be very, very hard to break.

    The more important character that is revealed in the emails is that of the observations in Wallmart made by one so obviously assured of his own superiority.

    I’d be going him on that line and the reason I would is it’s about “feelings” and in the Stzok’s case, his feelings are the same as the left’s.
    They are superior beings and the rest are uneducated plebs.

    He fired up when confronted with his hypocrisy and grandstanding about not lying when he obviously did to his wife, shooting his credibility out the window.
    He lost “smarmy” then.

    That guy is pure evil.
    Reminding him of his personal failures as a human, he won’t handle because he is being made to look at himself.
    And the left never do that.
    He is also a simpleton.
    He could crack.

  16. C.L.

    There should be mass sackings at the FBI.
    I’m surprised Trump doesn’t liquidate these gestapo vermin.

  17. calli

    Too easy. I must halt and desist.

  18. egg_

    falling off a balcony while texting your drug dealer

    Exquisite.

  19. Anthony

    What does this quote by Samuel Johnson mean: “Patriotism is the last refuge for a scoundrel”?

    Question for that consonantal arsehole, Peter Strzok.

  20. pete m

    It should not be hard to rig a fix point on back of harness which people cannot remove.

  21. areff

    Why should Centrepoint skywalk be closed down because a couple of overwrought men gave in to the temptation to suicide?

    Why should the view from atop the Westgate Bridge have been ruined by a high security fence because, ten years ago, one of the millions who use the bridge threw his daughter off the top.

    Worse, not only has it spoiled the view, it has made it impossible to see if the booze bus is operating at the Williamstown Road exit. Thus are our freedoms eroded.

  22. Infidel Tiger

    The Australian is a fallen and failed rag with perhaps the most clueless foreign affairs team ever assembled.

    It takes skill for a newspaper to assemble so many bad takes.

    I’d cancel my sub, but abusing the writers in the comments makes it sort it. I know they read them because they are vain dicksticks.

  23. Tel

    Nick Petroulias, 50, was pulled over driving his black BMW in Sydney on June 20
    He was allegedly caught with fake cash, bank cards and dodgy driver’s licences

    Might be a good time to go over his career with a fine tooth comb and find out who he was working with.

  24. RobK

    Thanks Zatara, on the Ukraine thing. I see it was a bad example for me to put forward as a NATO issue.

  25. Mother Lode

    Columbus, Ohio is pretty reliably Democrat, isn’t it?

    Who is Stormy’s lawyer suggesting decided to go after her? I don’t imagine a Democrat town would have anyone conservative places any higher than Assistant Deputy Cadet Dog-Catcher, and him only because he is a distant relative of the Mayor’s bookie.

    And was she born in Stormy Hospital? Or did she used to have a pet goldfish called Stormy?

  26. Geriatric Mayfly

    Looking at the earthquake map on the USGS site, no record of the one that has struck Europe in recent days. I think it only goes up to about Richter 10.0, but The Donald has set one off eleven times eleventy.

  27. John Constantine

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180713/pdf/43whct5t5h715j.pdf

    OLI, olivers, godless hippy commo café company respond to making no money by employing robots.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2762045, posted on July 13, 2018 at 9:03 am

    How those things like an A380 get off the tarmac fascinates me, much as the old DC3 did back in the days of aeronautical dwarves. Yes I have read about airflow speeds over and under the wings, and high and low pressure differentials. But, in many discussions there’s often a rider to the effect – we are still not quite sure of all the processes at work getting these leviathans into the air and keeping them there.

    They are lifted and held in the air by shit-scared passengers pulling them up by the armrests.

  29. struth

    The MSN find the 50 people who protested Trump’s British visit, and with the right camera angles , still couldn’t make it look like more.
    But they gave them air time and told us that Trump landed amidst massive protests.

    Were there?

    Did I miss something?
    I am still looking for the massive protests.

  30. egg_

    OLI, olivers, godless hippy commo café company respond to making no money by employing robots.

    ‘Organic’ robots?

  31. I made the mistake of dropping in to the Tesla showroom in Martin Place yesterday evening after work. I expressed my scepticism about the product. In the mere 19 hours since, I have been bombarded with e-mails and texts imploring me to take a test drive. The hard-sell.

    That reminds me of Beery’s Law of Matketing, which states that the level of marketing is inversely proportional to the quality of the product.

    And you can take that to the bank.

  32. egg_

    Looking at the earthquake map on the USGS site, no record of the one that has struck Europe in recent days. I think it only goes up to about Richter 10.0, but The Donald has set one off eleven times eleventy.

    Probably coincident with a low pressure system caused by puckering @rseholes?

  33. Rae

    Columbus, Ohio is pretty reliably Democrat, isn’t it?

    Just the Mayor, it seems. Ohio is a Republican state.

    Political control of Ohio has oscillated between the two major parties. Republicans outnumber Democrats in Ohio government. The governor, John Kasich, is a Republican, as are all other non-judicial statewide elected officials: Lieutenant Governor of Ohio Mary Taylor, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine, Ohio State Auditor Dave Yost, Ohio Secretary of State Jon A. Husted and Ohio State Treasurer Josh Mandel.

    In the Ohio State Senate the Republicans have firm control (24-9), and in the Ohio House of Representatives the Republicans control the delegation (66-33). The Ohio Congressional Delegation is mostly Republican as well; twelve representatives are Republicans while four are Democrats. One U.S. senator, Rob Portman, is a Republican, while the other, Sherrod Brown, is a Democrat. Most of the mayors of the ten largest cities in the state (Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Akron, Dayton, Youngstown, Canton, Parma, Lorain) are Democrats. The Republicans are strongest in the rural Northwest, the affluent Cincinnati and Columbus suburbs, and have been making gains in Appalachian Southeast Ohio over the past decade. The Democrats rely on the state’s major cities as well as Northeast Ohio.

  34. John Constantine

    MMJ, a marijuana greenchip announces that the british Colombia liquor distribution board is working with it’s United Greeneries potplant arm for legal recreational marijuana sales.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180713/pdf/43whcw0f2lb0dz.pdf

  35. Boambee John

    m0nty

    Tell us, reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment, when will Strzok flip? Will it be the final element in the impeachment saga?

  36. Herodotus

    For those who like Radio.
    Some time ago I became so pissed off with the ABC’s News Radio roadblocking Monday nights with a Q&A simulcast (and sometimes a subsequent extended discussion after Q&A) that I sought other sources.
    Radio For The Print Handicapped (2RPH) is a radio reading service in Sydney (1224 kHz, 100.5MHz, and also via DAB+ Digital Radio) and it does a good job of bringing various topics to us. They do a daily reading of major newspapers, then in the evening they have a range of programs, usually half-hour slots with very little advertising.
    Like News Radio they go to the BBC overnight for those of us who wake several times and need a bit of talk to go back to sleep.
    This has been such a relief, not having to suffer the spins and arrows of outrageous fortune on the ABC’s three AM radio networks.
    Being a classical music listener the Classic FM channel is less of a worry.

  37. Herodotus

    IT – The Australian is virtually trolling its readership with Cameron Stewart. Commenters give him heaps, however.

  38. Senile Old Guy

    ABC:

    The ocean is Kevin Mason’s “medicine”. It heals him, clears his mind and keeps this quiet, 71-year-old Aboriginal elder fit. He often pulls on a hooded wetsuit and dives deep into the blue on cold winter days, gathering seafood for his family at Narooma, on the far south coast of New South Wales.

    The story neglects to mention that the wetsuit, surfboard The ocean is Kevin Mason’s “medicine”. It heals him, clears his mind and keeps this quiet, 71-year-old Aboriginal elder fit.

    The ABC neglects to mention that the surfboard, driving mask, fins and snorkel are not indigenous but western. If you are using western gear, you should be accountable to western law. And the abalone are probably cooked using western gas or electricity.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Nick Petroulias, 50, was pulled over driving his black BMW in Sydney on June 20
    He was allegedly caught with fake cash, bank cards and dodgy driver’s licences

    Might be a good time to go over his career with a fine tooth comb and find out who he was working with.

    Petroulias is a slippery prick.
    He did jail time years ago for selling confidential ATO information while he was a deputy commissioner, and I think there were cases of selling favourable private tax rulings.
    He has also been hooked up in some sort of dodgy deal involving the sale of Aboriginal land from memory.
    I wonder how many degrees of separation there are between Slippery Nick and the Cranston Crime family.
    Don’t you just love how the ATO lecture the average Joe about not claiming $10 more than they should in deductions, after they’ve harboured shysters like Petroulias and Cranston.

  40. Confused Old Misfit

    we are still not quite sure of all the processes at work getting these leviathans into the air and keeping them there.

    You mean to tell m that these people who can’t figure out how birds fly or how an airplane gets off the ground CAN tell me what the weather is going to be in 50 years? I’m amazed!
    Venturi gets you there, Burnelli keeps you there.

  41. There is one argument though, that Agent O doesn’t get. A great deal of the US military spending is centered around projection. The US has to project it’s power across the pond in order to project power in Europe. The Euroweenies don’t have to spend as much, or rather in order to maintain parity they have to spend equal the Americans less the cost of projection. That’s nowhere near 4%

    Oh, he gets it alright. It’s just that for the price of a trip to Europe, he’s saved $billions by getting NATO nations to increase their contributions.

    Never fall for what Trump says, it’s out outcomes that matter.

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Getting past the surface politics into how people are thinking is one of my interests. Like the blue collar workers who switched from Dem to GOP and voted for Trump, or the unionists in Tasmania who applauded Howard, and became Howard’s Battlers.

    Here is an article today which also digs under the surface:

    #WalkAway’s Threat to Democrats’ Base

    The grassroots #WalkAway movement aimed at getting disaffected Democrats to publicly and conspicuously abandon their increasingly radical, intolerant party is rapidly gaining steam.

    The movement, founded in late May by gay hairstylist Brandon Straka, encourages Americans to share their personal stories of disillusionment with the Democratic Party and abandon, or “walk away,” from the party. #WalkAway primarily encourages the rejection of Democrat radicalism, as opposed to proselytizing on behalf of the Republican Party or Donald Trump.

    The Democratic Party, he says, “and the liberal media has embraced, affirmed, aided, and abetted this cult ideology. In an effort to gain voters and maintain power, the Democratic Party that I once loved has joined forces with the extremist left.”

    And a fairly amazing comment from Candace Owens:

    Turning Point USA’s communications director Candace Owens is optimistic about #WalkAway’s prospects.

    “We’re seeing a major shift happen. And black supporters are leaving the left and going over to the right. You need to pay attention to the underground movement. And look, you’re correct to say that just because a poll says something, it isn’t right. The polls told us that Hillary Clinton was going to win and she didn’t. I wasn’t fooled by the polls. I thought that Hillary Clinton was going to lose, in the same way that I am also saying that I believe black voters are going to exit the left completely by 2020.”

    I doubt that, but seeing that Trump has African-American unemployment at record lows, and an economy going pretty well, she may well be right that black Americans will become part of Trump’s Battlers.

    The comments to the article are worth a read also, especially those from ex-Democrats.

    Perhaps M0nty should take in this article too, before going down with the ship.

  43. Stimpson J. Cat

    I like this kid. She’s asking the right questions.

    Candace Owens
    @RealCandaceO
    Objectively speaking, it’s quite terrifying to realize that a good portion of Americans quite literally hate our president, simply because their media programmed them to.

    What else might the media program them to do?

    How easily hacked is the human brain?
    9:03 AM · Jul 12, 2018

  44. calli

    Stormy didn’t use her Savage Attack Bosoms after all? Bother. There goes the Fembot meme.

  45. JC

    I doubt that, but seeing that Trump has African-American unemployment at record lows, and an economy going pretty well, she may well be right that black Americans will become part of Trump’s Battlers.

    Bruce, I’d like to see that first. Huge doubts.

  46. JC

    The Stork and Comey have near enough to identical voices. Their word inflections are identical.

  47. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2762096, posted on July 13, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Trump just fucked Theresa May. She is metaphorically rooted.

    I mentioned this to Mrs L last night … I reckon Trump will dangle a sweet bilateral trade deal conditional on a full Brexit bail out.
    Stage 1 is to pull the rug on May (tick).
    Stage 2 is to offer her successor an even sweeter deal to stick it up Brussels.

  48. Rebel with cause

    So public transport in Venezuela has totally failed, and the market comes up with a solution. The media focus on how terrible the solution is – of course it is terrible, it is befitting the third world status that socialism has reduced Venezuela to – rather than the fact that the market is working even in despite of government failure on a massive scale.

  49. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trump just fucked Theresa May. She is metaphorically rooted.

    Meanwhile, at Nigel’s pub…

  50. Zatara

    If a biplane generates more lift than a monoplane then why did biplanes go out of fashion?

    It’s a trade off. Yes the wings produce more lift but they, and particularly their supporting structure, cost penalties in drag and weight.

    As aircraft engines became more powerful and airfoil designs more efficient it became possible to generate more thrust and lift for a given size/weight. These developments led to reducing the drag penalty by switching to monoplane designs. High zoom factor.

    But flying an open cockpit biplane has a high coolness factor among pilots so that must be factored in as well.

  51. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bruce, I’d like to see that first. Huge doubts.

    It’s what scientists call the Kanye Effect.
    Trust me on this.

  52. Derp

    Strzok and his evasive memory summed up in a single gif

  53. cohenite

    ‘Go forth and multiply and subdue the earth,’ is one of many lines in scripture that should be excised. We have done sufficiently well on both counts.

    Fuck off, you sound like one of those sustainability dickheads. There’s a universe out there. Humans need to keep going not to listen to misanthropes.

  54. calli

    A third world toast rack, Rebel. Smart thinking.

  55. JC

    The US Emmy’s are like our Walkleys. Who’s the best leftie this year.

    Netflix just beat HBO.

  56. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why should Centrepoint skywalk be closed down because a couple of overwrought men gave in to the temptation to suicide?

    Let’s be honest.
    The only way to completely stop suicide is with abortion.
    Just think of all the lives saved.

  57. Bruce of Newcastle

    The MSN find the 50 people who protested Trump’s British visit, and with the right camera angles , still couldn’t make it look like more.

    Three’s a crowd:

    Trump Protesters

  58. Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastle

    Perhaps M0nty should take in this article too, before going down with the ship.

    The reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment will ride the wreck of the Titanic all the way down, then complain that the drinks are watery, and the band has stopped playing.

  59. Confused Old Misfit

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2762114, posted on July 13, 2018 at 10:54 am

    You work somewhere in government! I’m sure of it!
    Come clean now, full disclosure, which department?

  60. JC

    Monst/Fatboy

    Cohen doesn’t appear to be that concerned.

    Michael Cohen Purchases New York City Apartment for $6.7 Million
    Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer financed the purchase with a mortgage from the developers, according to public records

    Not a care in the world.

  61. John Constantine

    Their Lucy turnfailure dreams of the day cars vanish from her megacity, transport of the proles in stock crates on venaustralian flatbed trucks, transport of the kleptocracy nobles by chopper from castle helipad to castle helipad.

  62. Rebel with cause

    President Nicolás Maduro tried to fix the problem three years ago, buying 15,000 huge red buses built in China. Most of those, though, ended up broken down in official garages because spare parts weren’t available in Venezuela.

    Thats the problem with buying cheap gear from China. It wears out quickly and the Chinese don’t believe in spare parts. You get what you pay for.

  63. Stimpson J. Cat

    The largest mammal ever to exist deserves some consideration if its existence is brought to the point of peril – as does the smallest. ‘Go forth and multiply and subdue the earth,’ is one of many lines in scripture that should be excised. We have done sufficiently well on both counts.

    People always forget that animals have been going extinct for millions of years before us, and will do for millions of years after us.
    It’s perfectly natural.
    Take genetic samples and we can clone them and bring them back later after we have solved more important problems like baldness and cancer and nuclear car engines and cloning.
    Animals are simply not as important as humans.
    They never have been, they never will be, and they never should be.

  64. Tel

    Most of those, though, ended up broken down in official garages because spare parts weren’t available in Venezuela.

    Are they too stupid to take apart one bus and use it as spare parts for the others?

    If it’s the same part that fails on all of them, then you can be sure some alternative Asian manufacturer sells boxes of those on Ali Baba.

  65. JC

    Rebel

    Or perhaps the Venezuelan government was too stupid to think about after purchase servicing – which is much more likely. In fact I’d give this hunch 100% probability.

  66. Boambee John

    Zatara at 1050

    But flying an open cockpit biplane has a high coolness factor among pilots so that must be factored in as well.

    When he first flew the Bf 109, Ernst Udet commented to Willi Messerschmidt along the lines “A wonderful aeroplane Herr Messerschmidt, but it is not suitable , a fighter pilot must feel the wind on his face, so that he can guage his speed and turn rate”!

  67. Stimpson J. Cat

    You work somewhere in government! I’m sure of it!

    Christopher Pyne Twitter Account Manager.

  68. calli

    Chuckle. Scroll down and find the quintessential pommie epithet:

    ”You’re tacky and I hate you”.

    That’s gotta sting!

  69. JC

    johanna
    #2762056, posted on July 13, 2018 at 9:34 am

    Peter Strzok now has won the prize for the most punchable face on the planet.

    She talks like a guy talks.

  70. Chris

    flying an open cockpit biplane has a high coolness factor among pilots so that must be factored in as well.

    Flying an open cockpit monoplane is better in that you see lots more. If its a high wing you see the ground as you travel, but when you orbit a farm to take pictures the wing gets in the damn picture. If its a low wing, it gets out of the way for the picture!

    Of course, you are dead right about the coolness of the biplane. Richard Bach wrote some really nice books about it.

  71. cohenite

    Animals are simply not as important as humans.
    They never have been, they never will be, and they never should be.

    Well said!

  72. mh

    The Sun were the only British media outlet Donald Trump spoke to before his arrival in the UK for his first visit as President

    Not classy by Trump, but savvy.

  73. P

    “First lady Melania Trump is wearing a yellow silk pleated chiffon dress by New York-based J. Mendel to a gala at Blenheim Palace.
    She paired the off-the-shoulder gown with floor-length pleated sleeves with matching silk pumps by Manolo Blahnik.”
    Link

  74. Zatara

    … seeing that Trump has African-American unemployment at record lows, and an economy going pretty well, she may well be right that black Americans will become part of Trump’s Battlers.

    Trump is up 10% among Hispanic voters as of last months Harvard CAPS/Harris poll.

    President Trump’s approval rating has ticked up to 47 percent in the new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released exclusively to The Hill, a 2 point hike from last month.

    Trump’s approval rating was lifted in part by a 10 point climb among Hispanic voters. His approval rating rose by 6 points among Republicans and by 4 points among Democrats compared to last month’s poll.

  75. JC

    Nonsense Cohenite. Just nonsense. My labradoodle is more worthy and more intelligent than some of the nogginheads here. They know who they are without me having to name them and you do too.

  76. cohenite

    Nonsense Cohenite. Just nonsense. My labradoodle is more worthy and more intelligent than some of the nogginheads here. They know who they are without me having to name them and you do too.

    The exception proves the rule; and my bullmastiff eats whatever it is you have.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    calli

    #2762099, posted on July 13, 2018 at 10:44 am

    Stormy didn’t use her Savage Attack Bosoms after all? Bother. There goes the Fembot meme.

    They are more a tripping hazard than an attack weapon these days.

  78. Stimpson J. Cat

    My labradoodle

    Jesus Christ.
    What’s its name, Killer?

  79. Bruce of Newcastle

    President Nicolás Maduro tried to fix the problem three years ago, buying 15,000 huge red buses built in China. Most of those, though, ended up broken down in official garages because spare parts weren’t available in Venezuela.

    Thats the problem with buying cheap gear from China. It wears out quickly and the Chinese don’t believe in spare parts. You get what you pay for.

    He needs more Cubans.
    Classic Cars and the Cubans That Keep Them Running
    Oh wait he has lots of them already.
    Cuba Has “Occupying Army” in Venezuela, OAS Secretary General Claims
    Maybe they’re the wrong sort of Cubans.

  80. thefrolickingmole

    fisky.

    A good article on the bad effects of deliberately stiffing the young for the ease of importing people and underpaying them.
    Only one quibble.

    Then The ABC reported that Australia’s horticulture industry is at the centre of yet another migrant slave scandal, according to an Australian Parliamentary Inquiry into the issue.

    They arent slaves, they are people who are working off their patrons investment in securing them a visa which will hopefully be converted to an Australian residency/citizenship of massive value.
    This curious mindset of “an Australian visa is worthless” is prevalent through the mollycoddled classes who dont realize the massive, massive value in things like an old age pension, unemployment benefits, medicare etc to people who come from places where the rule is “dont work, dont eat”.

  81. important problems like baldness and cancer and nuclear car engines and cloning.

    Sh1t yeah!
    I want a V8 nuke mustang.

  82. C.L.

    Being a classical music listener the Classic FM channel is less of a worry.

    Except when they play noisy, formless, avant-garde crap composed by some East German egghead in the 1970s or something.

  83. JC

    This highlights the problems of a British exist from the EU.

    Liam Fox, the secretary of state for international trade tweeted “terrific to hear Donald Trump talk so positively about UK and US trade tonight at Blenheim Palace #specialrelationship’’.

    But in the newspaper Mr Trump says Mrs May’s attempts to maintain close ties with the European Union would make a lucrative US trade deal very unlikely. Mr Trump has criticised Mrs May’s Chequers plan, which sticks to a common rulebook with Brussels on agricultural produce and goods to keep the customs borders open to the European Union.

    Mr Trump told The Sun: “If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal.

    “If they do that, then their trade deal with the US will probably not be made.”

    He said Mrs May’s plan will definitely affect trade with the United States, “unfortunately in a negative way”.

    Britain wants to maintain the customs union with the EU and the US is telling May that won’t work if they want a trade deal with the US. Leaving the customs union would be short term economically ruinous for the UK.

  84. There’s so many more angles as to why what he said to Nato is just utterly perfect.

    The entire trip is epic 🍿

    And he hasn’t met Putin yet.

  85. Stimpson J. Cat

    Thats the problem with buying cheap gear from China. It wears out quickly and the Chinese don’t believe in spare parts. You get what you pay for.

    The women last though.
    They just get smaller over time.
    Don’t be Arky.
    Get one that can cook.

    😁

  86. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2762133, posted on July 13, 2018 at 11:14 am

    Nonsense Cohenite. Just nonsense. My labradoodle is more worthy and more intelligent

    A labradoodle, eh?
    A high risk dog for one who has tasselled loafers.

  87. Tel

    Britain wants to maintain the customs union with the EU and the US is telling May that won’t work if they want a trade deal with the US. Leaving the customs union would be short term economically ruinous for the UK.

    The real problem is that the EU insist that if the UK stays inside the customs union, then ALL negotiations must be done via Brussels and subject to full EU scrutiny. That means the US can only negotiate a trade deal with the EU as a whole and not UK. That’s part of the rules of being an EU member.

    I’m sure May has a perfect understanding of this, even if she acts dopey when it fits the narrative, and the news media don’t bother to ask the key questions.

  88. JC

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2762138, posted on July 13, 2018 at 11:19 am

    My labradoodle

    Jesus Christ.
    What’s its name, Killer?

    He’s an absolute mongrel of a dog. He tries to attack every single dog he sees when out walking on a leash. His life is spent on a terrace, waiting for the next dog or postie so he can bark at them. When he gets too annoying, he is put in his bed. Rinse and repeat. That’s his life.

  89. Cassie of Sydney

    “mh
    #2762130, posted on July 13, 2018 at 11:13 am
    The Sun were the only British media outlet Donald Trump spoke to before his arrival in the UK for his first visit as President

    Not classy by Trump, but savvy.”

    I think also very clever. Trump knows exactly who to appeal to and he is clever enough to know that you never get any favors from your enemies. That’s his business background coming through. What a pity our own conservatives don’t take a leaf out of Trump’s notebook instead of constantly prostrating themselves on the ABC or in Fauxfax and being abused and denigrated for the effort.

  90. Bruce of Newcastle

    Animals are simply not as important as humans.
    They never have been, they never will be, and they never should be.

    Try explaining that to a felis catus.
    Once staff always staff.

  91. Tom

    The Sun were the only British media outlet Donald Trump spoke to before his arrival in the UK for his first visit as President.

    Smart. The Sun is London’s biggest selling newspaper, with 1.5 million daily sales+.

  92. JC

    A labradoodle, eh?
    A high risk dog for one who has tasselled loafers.

    It’s my kid’s dog. I would never get a dog, as I really don’t like the fuckers. They remind me of taxeaters, greedy and getting stuff for no work or effort.

  93. Zatara

    “First lady Melania Trump is wearing a yellow silk pleated chiffon dress by New York-based J. Mendel to a gala at Blenheim Palace.
    She paired the off-the-shoulder gown with floor-length pleated sleeves with matching silk pumps by Manolo Blahnik.”

    Hmm, let me check that list

    Bet they are kicking themselves now.

  94. thefrolickingmole

    Toll level,\: Dragon 5000

    Earlier on Thursday, Trump had appeared to throw his weight behind a hard Brexit by suggesting the government was taking “a different route” from the complete break from the EU that he said the British people had voted for.

    Donald Trump and Theresa May awkwardly hold hands at White House
    “I would say Brexit is Brexit,” he told reporters at the Nato summit. “The people voted to break it up so I imagine that is what they would do, but maybe they’re taking a different route. I’m not sure that’s what they voted for.”

  95. stackja

    Five cops assaulted by alleged Sydney drug dealer in custody
    EDITOR ON DUTY: Angelo Risso
    33 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    An alleged drug dealer has been accused of urinating in the dock of a Sydney CBD police station before hitting officers.

    The 29-year-old man had just been charged with drug supply and gun offences when he urinated while in the dock at the Sydney Police Centre and assaulted a sergeant late last night, according to police.

    After allegedly assaulting another four officers, the man was charged over the second incident and refused bail to appear at Central Local Court today.

    The officers were treated in hospital for minor injuries.

    Who was peed off more?

  96. egg_

    As it’s NAIDOC week, what’s Testes’ views on extinction of the Megafauna?

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    He’s an absolute mongrel of a dog.

    I hope you named it Jordan Belfort JC.

  98. johanna

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2762097, posted on July 13, 2018 at 10:43 am

    Getting past the surface politics into how people are thinking is one of my interests. Like the blue collar workers who switched from Dem to GOP and voted for Trump, or the unionists in Tasmania who applauded Howard, and became Howard’s Battlers.

    It is indeed interesting, Bruce. There is a great podcast from Scott Adams somewhere (sorry, can’t find it just now) where he talks about why leftists, especially in the US, are so hysterical in their reactions, and also about the Walkaway movement, which is a kind of reaction by people who don’t want to be part of that any more.

    His theory is that it is the use of fear by the media and by cynical politicians that results in many people actually having physical symptoms of extreme anxiety, which he regards as genuine signs of distress. He then runs through the propaganda put out by the media about Trump, like that he was going to send blacks back to the plantation, put gays in concentration camps and generally be Literally Hitler. None of it is true, but that doesn’t stop a goodly chunk of people from believing it, belief usually trumping fact in the human psyche.

    He reckons the Walkaway movement consists of people who have realised that they are being lied to and emotionally manipulated, consistently and in ways that are bad for them and for society.

    I saw an interview by Mark Steyn with that graduate student who got into such trouble for playing a short Jordan Petersen clip to her class. She has Walked Away as a result of that experience. The scales fell from her eyes. The same thing happened to Professor Bret Weinstein after he went through the wringer for putting a toe over the line. Both were previously liberals through and through.

    Candace Owens, one of the brightest new stars of the conservative movement, says that there is a real groundswell in the black community, especially among young people and greatly helped by Kanye West, away from the Democrats. Same thing – it is dawning on them that they are being lied to and manipulated, and they don’t like it.

    I suspect that the Democrats are in a lot more trouble than they think, because young blacks who love Kanye West quite likely are not covered by their traditional survey methods.

  99. C.L.

    How it’s done at the ABC:

    Victorian Liberals under fire for campaign flyer warning about gang crime in suburbs.

    Under fire? From whom?

    A Liberal Party flyer depicting hooded youths and warning against gangs in the suburbs has been heavily criticised as drumming up racist fear and dog whistling.

    In a sign of how hard the 2018 state election will be fought, the Liberal Party has handed out the flyers in a community in Melbourne’s south-east, Noble Park — which has an African population — saying only the Coalition will tackle gang crime.

    Fears about gang crime — sometimes linked to youths of African background — do exist in some pockets of the community.

    But the image on the flyer is being attacked because critics say it was whipping up unnecessary fear and targeting African boys.

    Being attacked by whom?

    [Attorney-General Martin] Pakula called the ads “disgraceful” and said the photographs were designed to “try and frighten my constituents”.

    “I expect this is a sign of the things to come — a nasty and bigoted campaign by Matthew Guy and the Liberal Party,” Mr Pakula said.

    Helen Kapalos, the Victorian Multicultural Commission chair, was asked on ABC Radio Melbourne if she thought the flyer was dog whistling.

    She replied “it appears to be, and unfortunately so”.

    A spokeswoman for the advocacy group Colour Code, Roj Amedi, said when she saw the flyer she was totally taken aback and thought it may have even been fake.

    But she quickly confirmed it was Liberal Party material.

    “It was unconscionable. I couldn’t believe a person aspiring to government would actively drum up fear,” Ms Amedi told ABC Radio Melbourne.

    “I think the people that will be actually harmed are young black kids.”

    So there you have it. The Liberals are “under fire” and being “attacked” by extremist left-wingers.
    Nobody else gives a shit. Most especially because the ad is true.

  100. egg_

    noisy, formless, avant-garde crap

    Even ABC Jazz has such segments, some may literally be throwing cutlery into a piano – beats Chopsticks?

  101. Oh come on

    The Nords have always given the IWC moratorium on whaling the big FU. Iceland quit. Norway did too but rejoined on the condition that it would continue to give the moratorium the big FU. Personally, I don’t understand why Japan bothers to act all slippery with its ‘scientific research’ claims, which everyone knows are bogus. It should simply give virtue-signalling leftist whities the big FU and quit the IWC.

    Barely anyone cares about Nordic whaling – it’s been going on this whole time and they are more prolific whalers than the Japs, yet all the screeching from pious Westerners is over Japan. No one cares about indigenous populations whaling, either; that’s all good because it’s their heritage or somesuch. No charismatic mammal concerns there.

    The Inuit are also known to make a complete pig’s fist of catching whales which basically means a cruel and agonising death for the creatures while humans stabbed at them with sharp things. – so much so that I think Norway sent a bunch of their whale fishermen over to Canada to show the local Inuit how to do it right. Again, nobody cares about this, and it’s all anti-Japan mania all the time for Western virtue-signallers. The focus on Japan is racist.

    Oh and let’s not forget that the Soviets caught whales on an astronomical scale, and they went after pretty much all whale species. As long as the whale could be hauled in, the Reds would go for it. Japan targets primarily Minkes, catches a few hundred a year out of a population of hundreds of thousands. This is obviously a sustainable catch.

  102. Senile Old Guy

    Michelle Grattan is a moron:

    When young Muslim activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied posted her “LEST. WE. FORGET. (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine …)” she was pilloried — not just criticised robustly — for expressing a provocative and disrespectful view. Her most ferocious attackers, including high-profile Liberals, approached her post from what some might characterise as their own school of “political correctness”.

    This is from the ABC (link). No. She was criticized for using a day of respect for Australian sacrifices in war for her own political purposes. In the country which rescued her and gave her a future. Respecting ANZAC day has nothing to do with ”political correctness”.

    Why am I paying for this crap?

  103. Ellen of Tasmania

    My labradoodle is more worthy and more intelligent than some of the nogginheads here

    Goodness – no wonder I spend most of my time with my Shepherd, then. He’s way smarter than any labradoodle going around. But I’m pretty sure he’s a Narnian.

    Of course, there are folk with towering IQs who are still fools. Lady Wisdom doesn’t seem as concerned with IQ as one would expect.

  104. stackja

    Another naughty word?

  105. Oh come on

    Mr Trump told The Sun: “If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal.

    That is a broadside straight into the shit ship Remain.

  106. Rae

    Britain wants to maintain the customs union with the EU and the US is telling May that won’t work if they want a trade deal with the US. Leaving the customs union would be short term economically ruinous for the UK.

    Meh. Trumps obnoxiousness might be playing ok in the red states, but May should correctly see any trade deal with the US as a low priority. Britain is inextricably involved with all of its closer neighbours in the EU. Brexit will need to ensure that all those trucks keep on rolling to and fro between Britain and the continent. Maybe after the US mid-terms the Pussy Grabber in Chief will calm his rhetoric on the matter. But, whether or not he does so will make little difference. Britain will make whatever deals it wants with the EU.

  107. Zatara

    [Attorney-General Martin] Pakula called the ads “disgraceful” and said the photographs were designed to “try and frighten my constituents”.

    When your Attorneys-General think they have “constituents” and doesn’t mind saying so youth gangs are the least of your problems.

  108. P

    Hmm, let me check that list
    Bet they are kicking themselves now.

    Indeed.

  109. stackja

    We want you back: Labor boss’s call to Sam Dastyari

    The Australian
    12:00AM July 13, 2018

    NSW state Labor secretary Kaila Murnain has begged disgraced former senator Sam Dastyari to return to the political frontline.

    Mr Dastyari was seen as a rising ALP star before a scandal over his links to Chinese interests forced him to quit in December.

    Ms Murnain praised Mr Dastyari last night in a TV interview. “Sam, if you’re watching, we do want you back,” she told Sky News host and The Daily Telegraph journalist Sharri Markson. “He has enormous talent. Frankly the Labor Party is very lucky to think that we might be able to get him back at some point in some capacity,” she said.

    Since resigning, Mr Dastyari has regularly appeared on The Kyle and Jackie O Show on KIIS FM and works with political consultants Essential Media.

    But Mr Dastyari dismissed the idea of returning to politics. “For the first time in my adult life I can wake up and not have to freak out about what’s in the papers,” he said. “The rush you get for being able to sleep at night is far better than the adrenaline of politics.”

    Mr Dastyari, a former NSW state secretary, resigned from the Senate after contradicting the party’s policy on the South China Sea and with concerns about his close relationship to political ­donors with links to Beijing.

    Sam Dastyari should return to politics, says NSW Labor general secretary Kaila Murnain
    Kylar Loussikian, The Daily Telegraph
    July 12, 2018 7:23pm
    Subscriber only

    NSW Labor powerbroker Kaila Murnain has begged disgraced former senator Sam Dastyari to return to the political frontline.

    Mr Dastyari was once seen as a rising ALP star before a scandal over his links to Chinese interests forced him to quit in December 2017.

    Ms Murnain, the general secretary of NSW Labor, praised Mr Dastyari on Sky News last night and made a direct appeal to him to return to politics.

    “Sam, if you’re watching, we do want you back,” she told The Daily Telegraph’s Political Editor Sharri Markson.

    “He has enormous talent,” Ms Murnain added.

    “Frankly the Labor Party is very lucky to think that we might be able to get him back at some point in some capacity … I really want to see him play a role.” Since his resignation, Mr Dastyari has regularly appeared on The Kyle and Jackie O Show on KIIS FM.

    He also works with political consultants Essential Media.

  110. Leigh Lowe

    He’s an absolute mongrel of a dog.

    I hope you named it Jordan Belfort JC.

    It’s name is Bernie.
    Bernie Madoff.

  111. Stimpson J. Cat

    Try explaining that to a felis catus.

    The problem with cats is that while I like them, they are, in the main, literally filthy arselicking creatures, much like a large segment of humanity.
    Toxoplasmosis.
    Just disgusting.

  112. Zatara

    Catallaxy Farmers put your hands up.
    Which one is you?

    Please tell me that cheese wheel is from a a four legged animal.

  113. egg_

    “The rush you get for being able to sleep at night is far better than the adrenaline of politics.”

    Google translation: Someone knows where the bodies are buried.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    But Mr Dastyari dismissed the idea of returning to politics. “For the first time in my adult life I can wake up and not have to freak out about what’s in the papers,” he said.

    Let me decode that for you …
    “They’ve got heaps more shit on my dodgy deals and I don’t want them to tip the bucket on me totally.”

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    INDIGENOUS
    Danny Glover’s tribute to Paul Robeson’s vision

    The Australian
    12:00AM July 13, 2018
    Stephen Fitzpatrick
    INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS EDITOR
    Sydney
    @svfitzpatrick

    When singer and rights activist Paul Robeson performed justice anthems for Sydney Opera House construction workers more than half a century ago, and addressed unionists at the city’s Trades Hall, the 1967 referendum on Aboriginal affairs was still a ­little way off.

    However, it was primarily a grassroots people’s movement of the kind espoused worldwide by the African-American bass baritone which saw that vote succeed, and yesterday at the same union centre actor Danny Glover applauded Robeson’s contribution and called for more to be done.

    Glover said last year’s historic Uluru Statement from the Heart, which seeks to complete the unfinished business of 1967 by achieving indigenous constitutional recognition, was an ­opportunity for Australia to make peace with historic injustices ­towards Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders. It might even ­become, he joked after adding his signature to the statement, “a lethal weapon for the movement”.

    From the Oz. Danny who?

  116. jupes

    Happy NAIDOC week everyone!!!!

    Hilarious Stimpy. Well, sad but piss-funny at the same time.

    They can use the bin for a pool because all the rubbish is thrown into the yard.

  117. jupes

    But Mr Dastyari dismissed the idea of returning to politics. “For the first time in my adult life I can wake up and not have to freak out about what’s in the papers,” he said.

    Yeah right. It’s all the paper’s fault you corrupt, traitorous fuck.

  118. France: Freeing Extremists
    450 Radicalized Islamists to Be Freed by 2019

    They should be freed.

    Via an airlock in space.

  119. Oh come on

    Leaving the customs union would be short term economically ruinous for the UK.

    It will also be very, very painful for all the EU member-states that make a fortune from trade with the UK. This is why I don’t think it will happen that way, ultimately. Yes, the EU wants to send a message to its members that pulling out of the club will be ruinously expensive. However, sending such a message has huge costs for the European side that EU member-states will be unlikely to bear once they figure out that all they get in return for cutting ties with their best customer is schadenfreude in Brussels.

  120. Stimpson J. Cat

    Kerry said coming out in the dairy industry was particularly tough.
    “Oh, it was horrible,” he said.
    “At one stage we thought, OK, we’ll just go to Brisbane and start a new life in the city, an anonymous life. But it was a fleeting thought. It wasn’t an option because I had three sons.”

    At the time the kids were aged nine, six and four.
    “And they by default had to come on the journey with us,” Kerry said.
    With the support of Kerry’s former wife, life kept rolling on.

    “I don’t remember ever sitting around with my head in my hands going, ‘Oh God, what are we going to do?'” Paul said.
    And, Kerry said, “we weren’t the only gays in the village”.
    “We used to have a joke, because we moved to Nimbin with three boys and a hundred goats, living on the side of a mountain, that we were the most normal thing in town,” he said.

    Jesus F$cking Christ.

  121. C.L.

    Now there’s a use for Musk’s toddler submarine …
    Sell it to China.
    All Sam Dastyari has to do is fake his own drowning.

  122. Confused Old Misfit

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2762164, posted on July 13, 2018 at 11:38 am

    That’s cruel & unusual punishment.
    FMD.

  123. egg_

    If Sam Dastardly and the Wongbot bred, what would be the result?

  124. JC

    The Gargs

    Meh. Trumps obnoxiousness might be playing ok in the red states, but May should correctly see any trade deal with the US as a low priority. Britain is inextricably involved with all of its closer neighbours in the EU. Brexit will need to ensure that all those trucks keep on rolling to and fro between Britain and the continent. Maybe after the US mid-terms the Pussy Grabber in Chief will calm his rhetoric on the matter. But, whether or not he does so will make little difference. Britain will make whatever deals it wants with the EU.

    Gooley, I’m not going to be that harsh on you because of your ailment. Having said that, ailment or not, you would still be an imbecile.

    UK exports STG 100 billion to the US. It’s about a third of what it does with the EU and about 50% with the rest of the world. In other words the US is hugely significant to the UK.

    I’d bet that if you took invisibles into account the US would be the UK’ single largest trade partner.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindustryandtrade/internationaltrade/articles/whodoestheuktradewith/2017-02-21

  125. Speedbox

    …and the people of Crimea are not even slightly interested in being part of Ukraine.

    Absolutely correct.

    The history of Russia/Ukraine and in particular, the history of the Crimea, is very interesting and to better understand the area/peoples, I’ve visited the Crimea several times. Overwhelmingly, the Crimean people are ethnic Russian and now that the Kerch Straight Bridge is open for traffic, the Crimean peoples interest in events north of Armiansk will flatline at zero.

  126. mh

    What a pity our own conservatives don’t take a leaf out of Trump’s notebook instead of constantly prostrating themselves on the ABC or in Fauxfax and being abused and denigrated for the effort.

    Turnbull, not being a conservative, feels at home with the ABC. He avoids 2gb like the plague. Eeeew!

  127. Bruce of Newcastle

    Dan the Man bans free market capitalism.

    Vic AFL finals under anti-scalping target

    Victorian-based AFL finals will for the first time be targeted by tough new anti-scalping laws.

    The finals games as well as next year’s Anzac Day clash have been declared major events, making it illegal for people to re-sell tickets for more than 10 per cent of face value.

    Previously, only the AFL grand final was subject to the law.

    “We’re putting fans first – these laws deter unscrupulous scalpers and make sure fans can watch their teams play in the biggest games,” acting Major Events Minister Philip Dalidakis said in a statement on Friday.

    I can’t wait for this to be applied to AWFL games.
    Scalping is only allowed when the Vic Govt is selling shonky electricity.

  128. Stimpson J. Cat

    Pretty funny that the Prez is in the UK and he gets ferried around in a US military chopper.

    Name one trustworthy person in the British establishment.
    I’ll wait.

  129. Death Giraffe

    The largest mammal ever to exist deserves some consideration

    ..
    Blue whales are the Mr Creosotes of the oceans.
    We would do the planet a favour by wiping them out en masse.
    Dirty fat things crapping their dirty krill turds into the pristine beautiful blue waters.
    Also homicidal maniacs and coward one punch killers. Don’t turn your back on them.

  130. Cactus

    Story from Sydney, a Tier 3 or 4 global city.

    Night out last night with work colleagues. We had a few drinks at bar 1 (probably 4-5 over 2 hrs) then moved to bar 2. We asked to do shots of tequila, we were provided them with a chaser. 20mins later we went for round 2. I was politely told they would not provide them and asked us to leave as we were drinking too quickly.

    We go to the next bar down. I went to order a round of drinks of 4. Bar tender said I and 3 of my colleagues could be served but not the 4th person that he pointed to as they were too drunk. It just so happens that individual was doing Dry-July and the 4th drink was for a 5th colleague who at that moment was in the bathroom. I protested to the facts, I don’t know why he thought my colleague was drunk, but that was enough for us to be refused service there too. You could argue perhaps the other 4 of us were drunk but I thought that was the point of drinking?

    We left. I started venting about how Australia is going to the dogs with nanny state and regulation. That we were behaving, we just wanted to be free to pay money to a business for a service. I also started ranting this wouldn’t happen in China. They are so damn entrepreneurial/mercantilist that perhaps we should try China town as they wouldn’t give a stuff about RSA/lockout laws. Anyway we approach Chinatown and not 5mins later, some 70 year old woman from the front of her Chinese restaurant beckoned at us in broken English, practically dragged us into the restaurant and had a round of Tsingtao’s in front of us. 15mins later dumplings.

  131. jupes

    Pretty funny that the Prez is in the UK and he gets ferried around in a US military chopper.

    He should have had the door open with his legs out. Pretty cool way to fly.

  132. jupes

    I can’t wait for this to be applied to AWFL games.

    It would be a pretty good entrepreneur who can scalp a free ticket.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    Blue whales are the Mr Creosotes of the oceans.

    Quite so.

    A Brief History of Exploding Whales

  134. mh

    The Sun website homepage is Trump Trump Trump. And it’s all the right headlines as well: Boris would make a great PM, Sadiq Kahn is terrible, Trump holding up England soccer shirt. Great stuff.

  135. Death Giraffe

    Watch this fat homicidal maniac of the oceans attempt to kill innocent humans:
    ..


  136. Chris

    Good article at Quillette, ‘Why women don’t code’. Reexamines the James Damore thing with some graphs and asking about a 1984 turnaround when women STOPPED going to computer science.

    The article is good, but the comment thread has some really good stuff and a gem:

    ga gamba
    June 19, 2018
    They identify 1984 as the year that “something changed” and they highlight a theory that around that time the personal computer revolution was affecting college campuses.

    I think understanding the media and cultural landscape of the early 1980s may help. In 1983–84 the big three TV networks’ share of the prime-time audience was 75 per cent; only 36 million of the nation’s 85 million homes had cable service in ’84. The top-rated series were ones like Dallas, Magnum PI, and Kate & Allie; perhaps only Knight Rider was kind of techie, but most due to the car. Summer TV programming was re-runs. MTV was founded in August ’81 but didn’t become profitable until ’84. The Internet didn’t exist; the Mosaic browser wasn’t released until 1992. Eight per cent of homes had a PC in 1984. By and large young people had cinema and FM radio. Mix tapes were a ‘social currency’, a term that had not yet been coined. Young people’s world, i.e their associations, were with their families, peers, schools, and immediate locales. The adventuresome might have had a pen pal.

    Brace yourselves for sweeping generalisations and a cause, not the cause.

    You know what also happened in 1984? The film Revenge of the Nerds was released. It’s prudent to define our terms here:

    When we first started interviewing gifted students about these terms [nerd and geek] in 1982, we found that both terms had very negative ramifications in the gifted students’ perceptions. For example, nerds were generally considered
    as socially inadequate, shy or overbearing, smart, and perhaps too smart as we learned later in our studies. Nerds were also perceived as being very
    focused on academic endeavors, physically weak, uninteresting, unnecessary to society, and ultimately undesirable. Generally speaking, all these things might be categorized under the heading of feeling abhorrent, which was the way most of these students described their experience of being gifted.
    www(dot)files(dot)eric(dot)ed(dot)gov/fulltext/EJ720371.pdf

    Since Mr Reges’s article was about the computer industry, the nerds discussed hereafter are the maths, computer, and technology nerds. Apologies to the Goths and drama club nerds as well as enthusiasts of sports trivia, spotting trains, otaku culture, or extinct languages for erasing you.

    The ngram of ‘nerd’ shows its rise beginning in the late 1970s and skyrocketing thereafter. The films The Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, and Weird Science also debuted in ’84 and ’85, and all of these appealed to the teen demographic. These are amongst the touchstone films for Generation X. So many people, especially young people, saw Revenge of the Nerds that nerd image became emblazoned on the American subconscious as a new cultural archetype – based on the average ticket price of $3.35 in 1984, the film’s $41 million gross box office takings means that roughly 12,000,000 people watched the film that summer.

    Of course Revenge of the Nerds didn’t create the nerds (and the geeks). Though the cinematic nerds emerge victorious by defeating the entitled and handsome athletes, and Lewis even wins the heart of the hottest girl who disdained him, anyone viewing the film knew it was a Hollywood ending and not one that depicted the reality for nerds. Intelligence coupled with social ineptness counted far less than, say, physical appearance, charisma, or athletic and comedic ability. In real life most teen girls were the ones who shunned nerdy boys – you had to be a very awkward and marginalised woman to socialise with them, or maybe you needed help with an assignment. To be a nerd was not only social death outside the nerd clique, for many it meant relentless bullying and worse. Unless something amazing happened in puberty, one couldn’t escape being a nerd. It wasn’t until the late 1990s with the rise of the dot com economy that nerd lost much of its stigma; suddenly those who were once the “cool kids” were declaring themselves nerds as a pretense to build investor interest in their ever more barmy business ideas. When very attractive men and women gleefully declared “I’m such a nerd” I saw it like an overinflated real-estate bubble and knew it was time to sell all my tech holdings.

    Much of today’s view of IT (and STEM) is presented through the feminist lens, one that dominates legacy media and many academic departments. And through this lens we see it is true women’s representation in the nerd films of the ’80s and ’90s was less than, yet it is also just as true women were also marginalised in films about doctors, lawyers, Wall St traders, and just about every other profession. Yet this didn’t stop them from pursuing their objectives and achieving the gains they have today, barring careers in plumbing and rubbish collection. How is being a software coder different from being a surgeon or lawyer? I put it to you that it is due to how harshly nerds were stereotyped and mistreated plus nerds own social awkwardness that put off a lot a women.

    Nerds today are not ostracised as the repellent creatures of 20 to 30 years ago – that they’re even smeared as ‘bros’, i.e. techbros, is likely taken as an improvement of their social position. Many of these feminist writers are not in tech, though they often affect a nerd persona because it has a desirable and authoritative cachet. Several activists such as Anita Sarkeesian are poseurs. All too powerful ones because we now have a distorted over demand for female coders by companies who have been coerced to hire with much less regard to skills and wages to beef up their social justice credentials. This is a shake-down racket minus the broken bones.

    Undeniably women have the talent and ambition to create many interesting and wonderful things, Quillette for example, yet all too often rather than do for themselves so many prefer to orbit existing centres of influence and power, making accusations and issuing demands to change what is a successful business model. These orbiters are rarely around at the birth and during the struggles of infancy, but once a company or service is proved and profitable they swarm it. I think they ought to take inspiration from Billie Jean King who, rather than try to change the then-existing professional tennis association, decided to establish the Women’s Tennis Association. Be the risk takers; run your companies to conform with your ideal of work-life balance, year-long maternity leave, on-site preschools, and whatever else you want.

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    Watch this fat homicidal maniac of the oceans attempt to kill innocent humans:

    Kayakers are hardly innocent or human.

  138. testpattern

    ‘When young Muslim activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied posted her “LEST. WE. FORGET. (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine …)” she was pilloried — not just criticised robustly — for expressing a provocative and disrespectful view’

    It was neither provocative nor disrespectful. It’s entirely appropriate to remember civilian victims of wars, which is what many refugees are. ANZAC Day isn’t a bad time to do it. I know many returned veterans who do. Probably not the military imposters on this blog though.

  139. C.L.

    a 1984 turnaround when women STOPPED going to computer science.

    That was about the time computers ceased being advanced typewriters (which they were, early on) and got all codey and stuff.

  140. egg_

    Undeniably women have the talent and ambition to create many interesting and wonderful things, Quillette for example, yet all too often rather than do for themselves so many prefer to orbit existing centres of influence and power, making accusations and issuing demands to change what is a successful business model. These orbiters are rarely around at the birth and during the struggles of infancy, but once a company or service is proved and profitable they swarm it.

    Alpha behaviour – let the nerds be the grunts.

  141. Stimpson J. Cat

    We lost OWG and got Testy back.
    F$cking Yay.

  142. Oh come on

    Crimea is Russian. It was gifted to the Ukrainian SSR in the 1950s, when the internal border change inside the USSR was essentially meaningless.

    That being said, Russia did a deal with Ukraine in 1994 (I think?), guaranteeing Ukraine’s post-Soviet borders in return for Ukraine handing its share of the former USSR’s nuclear stockpile to Moscow. The West was a party to this deal, and probably should have intervened to make the Russian annexation of Crimea more costly.

    Then again, the West assured Russia that NATO would not get any closer to Russia than the borders of unified Germany, and we welched on that one when we really shouldn’t have if we wanted to build a lasting relationship with post-Soviet Russia. Russian mistrust over the West’s intentions on its borders is understandable. Why does NATO still exist? It was constituted to oppose the USSR, which is now long gone. Yet NATO keeps growing. The only reason for NATO’s continuing existence that makes sense to a large regional power like Russia is that NATO’s objective is now to contain and possibly counter Russia. The assurances of Western leaders that this is not the case aren’t worth a hell of a lot in Moscow, which is understandable. Russia feels that Western assurances have been given before and subsequently abandoned, and they aren’t wrong about this.

    We assume that the Russians are acting in bad faith wrt its foreign relations, and it’s probably true that they are. However, Russia also presumes that the West is acting in bad faith wrt its relations with Russia, and this is not an unfair assessment from their perspective.

  143. Confused Old Misfit

    Pretty funny that the Prez is in the UK and he gets ferried around in a US military chopper.

    And he should demand Prince Edward as the pilot & Harry as the co-pilot.

  144. Confused Old Misfit

    Meant Prince William, dammit!

  145. Stimpson J. Cat

    Undeniably women have the talent and ambition to create many interesting and wonderful things

    Yes, but the problem is they always ruin it for everyone.
    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

    It’s why men will always be in the lead.
    Now if a woman creates a cure for baldness or cancer, then I might change my tune.

  146. John Constantine

    RFF rural funds group enter into a buy and leaseback deal with the huge jbs meatworks group.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20180713/pdf/43whj5x0wfvls2.pdf

    Buying the feedlots from the current owner and leasing them back, raising capital from the market to do it.

    Also supplying stock lien and inventory finance.

    Not for me, but structured to provide higher risk capital at a price.

    Interesting that a huge transnational operator like jbs sees this deal as an attractive risk management and financing tool.

  147. calli

    JC, at 1217

    It’s a rose or “Catherine” window from the basement. What appears to be the tyre is a weathered stone surround/sill.

    Or…it could be a tyre strung up to protect the house from reversing phaetons. 🙃

  148. Top Ender

    Top Ender’s report on Kimberley cruise – pls scroll unless interested.

    Report on a cruise of the Kimberleys on the liner L’Austral of the Ponant line, associated with APT.

    Food excellent; ship impressively equipped with decor: paintings; sculptures etc. Smallest cruise liner we have ever been on: 247 passengers and 150 crew. French mariners and pursers, and Indonesian and Filipino stewards and cabin crew.

    I have not had to do much so far. On the Friday hosted a bus trip around Darwin to see WWII stuff. Two buses so I swapped on the four stops we made to repeat the commentary. A very late lunch at the Hanuman restaurant where owner Jimmy She did a talk. Impressive menu of eight dishes.

    First day out of port was an “at sea” day. Day 2 was a trip up King George River to see the twin falls. Very impressive; lots of colour in the rocks, champagne on arrival. 8-10 passengers per Zodiac boat, of which the ship has 17. Today was a trip ashore in Vansittart Bay to see aboriginal rock art, and in the afternoon another expedition to see a C-53 twin-engined USAAF aircraft which crashed there in 1942. Brought down by poor navigation rather than enemy action.

    Kimberleys are much more impressive than I first thought from my previous land and air contacts. Very isolated. We have only seen a couple of other ships, Paspaley Pearl operations and a camp for helicopter/sea plane flights over Horizontal Falls. No roads to most of the places where the ship touches land.

    Beautiful grand scenery. 1,000’s of islands along the coast, all uninhabited. Enormous tidal range, which produces some interesting sluice gate effects in places. Yesterday we “shot the rapids” several times in a fast boat: 4 x 300bhp Yamaha engines powering a 48-person boat.

    The daily routine generally is:

    – ship has arrived somewhere and anchored.
    – go expeditioneering in a 10-man Zodiac by groups. There are 17 of these, usually all in operation at once.
    – Go up rivers; see crocodiles and birds etc. Sometimes land somewhere and look at something special: crashed WWII aircraft, rock art, natural scenery etc.
    – Come back and do lunch. Ship moves to new location. Repeat. Sometimes a lecture in the afternoon from one of the three guest speakers, me being one of them.
    – Afternoon tea etc. Ship is French so cuisine also – cakes; coffee/tea. Bars are open from breakfast to 2am; all drinks included.

    630 pm sees a photographic recap of the day, and the timetable for the next.

    Dinner in either the five-course dining room – tables of four or more – or deck 6 buffet. I “hosted” two dinners as part of my routine.

    Floorshow or whatever. Five professional dancers on board, and four singers/musicians. All excellent abilities.

    People on board almost all from Sydney or Melbourne, and aged 65 plus – most extremely fit and doing walks. No kids.

    Whale-watching in the final days – about 10 humpbacks sighted.

    In conclusion a most impressive ship and packaged expedition.

  149. Confused Old Misfit

    We lost OWG and got Testy back.

    Lousy deal.

  150. Oh come on

    The largest mammal ever to exist deserves some consideration

    Rubbish. This is an emotional reaction. The Blue whale stock is a resource no different from anything else swimming around in the ocean. Is the population being managed well? If yes, then there is no reason why this resource ought not be harvested as long as the population continues to be managed well.

  151. Geriatric Mayfly

    cohenite
    Fuck off, you sound like one of those sustainability dickheads. There’s a universe out there. Humans need to keep going not to listen to misanthropes.

    Charmed I’m sure. You seem gifted with reading what you want to read. And to think you could be sustaining a rare and threatened nematode six feet below.

  152. C.L.

    Prince Edward as the pilot

    You don’t want Prince Edward anywhere near your stick.

  153. C.L.

    You’re right about blue whales, Mayfly.
    There’s nothing smart or macho about killing these magnificent creatures.

  154. thefrolickingmole

    Whales, or as they are otherwise known, the giraffes of the sea.

    It was at that time also that the whale, which the Byzantines called Porphyrius, was caught. This whale had been annoying Byzantium and the towns about it for fifty years, not continuously, however, but disappearing sometimes for a rather long interval. And it sank many boats and terrified the passengers of many others, driving them from their course and carrying them off to great distances. It had consequently become a matter of concern to the Emperor Justinian to capture this creature, but he was unable by any device to accomplish his purpose.

    There it ran upon some very deep mud, and, though it struggled and exerted itself to the utmost to get out of it as quickly as possible, it still was utterly unable to escape from this shoal, but sank still deeper in the mud. Now when this was reported among all the people who dwelt round about, they straightway rushed upon the whale, and though they hacked at it most persistently with axes on all sides, even so they did not kill it, but they dragged it up with some heavy ropes. And they placed it on wagons and found its length to be about thirty cubits, and its breadth ten. Then, after forming several groups and dividing it accordingly, some ate the flesh immediately, while others decided to cure the portion which fell to them.

  155. John Constantine

    Their abc promoting ‘Rewilding’ as part of fashionable decolonialisation theory.

    The population clearances of the murray darling basin, added to the deindustrialisation of agriculture in the basin will allow their ABC to push for water to be stored in dams to be used in a drought to be dumped unused except for ‘rewilding’.

    Reintroducing dingoes into the sheeplands of Australia is also fashionable rewilding theory.

    Rewilding is so much easier to hear than deindustrialisation.

    Comrade Rewilders.

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We lost OWG and got Testy back.

    Lousy deal.

    We are still stuck with Grogarly.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    Crimea is Russian.

    It’s Turkish actually.

    When Catherine the Great Invaded the Crimea and Put the Rest of the World on Edge

    Sorry: was Turkish.

  158. testpattern

    ‘We lost OWG…’

    Discarded like a used condom on some Port Irony jetty ..

    ‘..and got Testy back’

    Nope. I’ve been working away for 12 weeks, back for 2 then away again til November.

  159. Senile Old Guy

    Enormous tidal range, which produces some interesting sluice gate effects in places. Yesterday we “shot the rapids”

    Tidal range is about 8 m. On gently sloping beaches, it is a long way from high tide to low tide. Even better”sluice gate effects” are along the rivers after the wet season, when the entire flood plain are draining off. The river will be 1 m below the bank and there will be 30 cm of water above the bank, for hundreds of km. Annual rainfall in Darwin is 1.7 m. That’s 1.7 m of water everywhere.

  160. JC

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2762233, posted on July 13, 2018 at 1:04 pm
    We lost OWG and got Testy back.

    Lousy deal.

    We are still stuck with Grogarly.

    No self awareness at all. None!

  161. Cactus

    Stimpson said

    Name one trustworthy person in the British establishment.
    I’ll wait.

    Can I put forward 1) Prince Phillip and 2) the Queen?

  162. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can I put forward 1) Prince Phillip and 2) the Queen?

    Humans not Reptilians Jesus Christ Cactus.

  163. Boambee John

    jupes
    #2762205, posted on July 13, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Pretty funny that the Prez is in the UK and he gets ferried around in a US military chopper.

    He should have had the door open with his legs out. Pretty cool way to fly.

    My first time in a Huey, sitting on the floor, legs dangling out the door, no seatbelt.

    The OH&S fascists would go insane these days!

  164. C.L.

    Interesting contrast between Trump and the present owner of Blenheim Palace (where the state dinner was held) and between America and the aristocracy system of Britain. Trump is the non-drinking billionaire who built up his forefathers’ estates and got himself elected President. On the other hand, James Spencer-Churchill, 12th Duke of Marlborough, is an ag college dropout, prescription forger, ex-jailbird, has been arrested for drugs and road rage; was a drunk and drug addict. In Britain, though, he still got the title and the goodies.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    How quickly you all forgot Diana.
    Did none of you listen to Candle in the Wind while actually holding a candle in the wind?
    For shame.

  166. P

    Question
    Why is there a car tire laying around in this pic?

    This video at 23:57 and 24:11 – 24:27 shows a clearer view (I think).

  167. testpattern

    Here in Port Irony, capital of the Pillll-bara, we have created a new signature recipe for NAIDOC Week. We call it the ‘Port Irony Thunderegg. ‘ It helps keep the kids off the streets and on the verge, and here in Port Irony we’re always on the verge of something. Get your notebooks out!

    We begin by painting an emu egg with a golden flash lightning strike motif, a symbol of our iconic Wet Season lightshows. Then we get the kids to suck the egg out with a straw and refill with OP Beenleigh. Use same straw to suck. We even get the kids to sell them on the verge, and outside the Port Irony courthouse. We’re hoping to win a tender to supply our iconic Port Irony Thundereggs to prisons across the State, when Uncle Ben returns from his camping trip on the verge of Mt Satirist.

  168. areff

    CL: Nobody else gives a shit.

    The Liberal candidate distributing the flyers gives a very big, sensitive and caring shit: He has just apologised, grovelled and promised not to distribute anymore of them.

    These people are worth voting for?

  169. Oh come on

    Can you give a non-subjective reason why the life of a whale is more important than the life of an ant? The only one I can think of is utilitarian – a dead whale provides a lot more food for other creatures than a dead ant. However, that simply means a whale is a more valuable catch than an ant.

  170. Cactus

    Im a bit conflicted on the Trump thing.
    1) I don’t think a visiting foreign leader should come into a country and interfere in their domestic politics. Its quite a dick move.
    2) I agree with almost all of what he is saying.

  171. Top Ender

    Speaking of exploding whales, the Royal Navy depth-charged quite a few in the Falklands war.

    Didn’t make the press as the time but it’s in the Reports of Proceedings and other logs of the ships and aircraft. As in “Drp x 1 DC – red water.”

  172. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Can you give a non-subjective reason why the life of a whale is more important than the life of an ant?

    Scarcity.

  173. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Im a bit conflicted on the Trump thing.
    1) I don’t think a visiting foreign leader should come into a country and interfere in their domestic politics. Its quite a dick move.
    2) I agree with almost all of what he is saying.

    Agreed.

    I worry that his interference helps Corbyn too.

    Corbyn is playing this beautifully. He fully supports Brexit but doesn’t have to do anything as the Fauxservatives are destroying themselves.

  174. Boambee John

    Nope. I’ve been working away for 12 weeks, back for 2 then away again til November.

    Don’t let us interrupt you.

  175. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh my God:

    I see the demon!!!!

  176. I see Strzok won the Troll of the Day award. Another massive fail from Congressional Republicans.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    Testy stop sniffing petrol.
    You are setting a bad example to the deadly mob.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Head explodey a green today: send them this article. 😀

    China Throws the Recycling Scam in the Trash

    Coming to a local council near you!

  179. Boambee John

    Keep dreaming, reactionary lackey of the fascist left establishment. When Strzok flips it will be game over.

  180. Oh come on

    The relative scarcity of whales doesn’t make the life of a whale more important than that of an ant. Of course, if ants and whales were both commodities, then the relative scarcity of a whale would be a factor in making a whale more valuable than ant, but that isn’t the same thing.

  181. Bruce of Newcastle

    I see Strzok won the Troll of the Day award.

    Strzok’s Smirk

    Peter Strzok had rehearsed all the lines of the plausibly sympathetic type. The character that James Comey is trying to play. A man so upright that he combs his hair every hour. But Strzok couldn’t help that smirk. Every time he clashed with the impotent House Republicans barraging him with questions that he dodged or refused to answer, the smirk crept over his face and into his voice.

    Needs more acting lessons…

  182. BorisG

    Agreed.

    I worry that his interference helps Corbyn too.

    Corbyn is playing this beautifully. He fully supports Brexit but doesn’t have to do anything as the Fauxservatives are destroying themselves.

    And he is helped by Trump.

  183. Tel

    It’s Turkish actually.

    When Catherine the Great Invaded the Crimea and Put the Rest of the World on Edge

    Sorry: was Turkish.

    Turkey made a prior agreement that ownership should be determined by force of arms (signed in 1453).

  184. Stimpson J. Cat

    Many Japanese studies have shown that every whale killed was probably at a 96.965% chance to commit suicide by beaching anyway.

  185. Fisky

    From the Daily Mail – a small downscaling of the out of control immigration ponzi, and probably too little too late!

    Australia’s immigration rate has dropped by 10 per cent due to more visa refusals and a crackdown on fraudulent claims.

    A report by the Home Affairs Department revealed the number of people coming to Australia fell by 21,000 people in 2017-18.

    The total intake of migrants into the country dropped from 183,608 to 162,417 in one year, figures provided to Daily Mail Australia reveal.

  186. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
  187. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Australia’s immigration rate has dropped by 10 per cent due to more visa refusals and a crackdown on fraudulent claims.

    A report by the Home Affairs Department revealed the number of people coming to Australia fell by 21,000 people in 2017-18.

    The total intake of migrants into the country dropped from 183,608 to 162,417 in one year, figures provided to Daily Mail Australia reveal.

    Still 150,000 too many.

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    162,417

    That is a lot of Indian Doctors, thank you, come again, oh golly gosh, (random head tilting movements.)

  189. Des Deskperson

    ‘another expedition to see a C-53 twin-engined USAAF aircraft which crashed there in 1942. Brought down by poor navigation rather than enemy action.’

    I was told a couple of interesting stories about the C-53 – the paratroop version of the C-47 Dakota – when I was in the Kimberly.

    It was headed from Perth to Darwin but was given the wrong – or mistook -the compass bearings and flew too far west. When the crew, realising they were lost, radioed for advice/help from the USAAF air control, they were told to fly low and look for roads, railways (or I guess ‘railroads’) and towns that might help them to find out where they were.

    ‘roads, railways and towns’ in the Kimberly in 1942?

    When Truscott AFB was established nearby in 1944, a group of RAAF ground defence airmen were reportedly shocked and disoriented when they found the relatively well preserved C 53 in the Kimberly wilds. No-one at Truscott had been made aware of the crash and the effect, at least initially, was probably akin to that of a moon landing finding a Boeing 707 on the lunar surface.

  190. BorisG

    In Britain, though, he still got the title and the goodies.

    There are plenty of rich heirs in America too, some of whom with similar lifestyles. There are also plenty of impoverished aristocrats in Britain.

  191. Their abc promoting ‘Rewilding’ as part of fashionable decolonialisation theory.

    This is a very good idea. I support this.
    This programme should begin with the “rewilding” of the homes of ABC presenters & producers, and ABC premises.

  192. Makka

    Leaving the customs union would be short term economically ruinous for the UK.

    The UK holds a trump card; City of London. The EU in the end will not overly punish the UK for leaving for fear of upsetting the big money heavy hitters that use the CoL. They will find a way to keep the rest of Europe inside the tent while letting the UK venture out. That is IF they replace May.

  193. C.L.

    There are plenty of rich heirs in America too,

    That’s the point.
    The duke isn’t rich.
    He just happens to own Blenheim Palace.
    In America, you can have your father’s palace only if you can pay the bills. Otherwise, it’s back to the end of the queue for you and your family name.

  194. testpattern

    ‘West Papua National Liberation Army (TPNPB) again attacked the Hidden Valley area mile 66 Tembagapura, Timika Papua on Friday (27/4/2018) at 08:15 am. In the attack was reportedly a Freeport Expatriate Employee, a South African, named Morne Francis Ras ..’

    Oh dear, even West Papuans wanna shoot Boers. Simply must tell Lauren Southern.

    https://tpnpbnews.wordpress.com/2018/04/28/tpnpb-tembak-warga-asing-di-tembagapura/

  195. BorisG

    Then again, the West assured Russia that NATO would not get any closer to Russia than the borders of unified Germany, and we welched on that one when we really shouldn’t have if we wanted to build a lasting relationship with post-Soviet Russia.

    This is a serious issue. My take is that eastern block countries (especially Poland and the Baltic states) did not share the western naïve view that defeat of communism and collapse of the USSR marks the end of the Russian imperialism. Thus all of them begged NATO to taken them in, and the west could not resist the temptation. What was the alternative? To tell Poles etc that we have helped you gain independence but now you are on your own? A bit tricky.

  196. Zatara

    In Britain, though, he still got the title and the goodies.

    There are plenty of rich heirs in America too

    I didn’t know there were titles in America to inherit.

    Makes that whole Revolutionary War thing seem so pointless.

  197. Cassie of Sydney

    “Cactus
    #2762249, posted on July 13, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Im a bit conflicted on the Trump thing.
    1) I don’t think a visiting foreign leader should come into a country and interfere in their domestic politics. Its quite a dick move”

    Well Cactus, Obumma was often quite happy interfering in another nation’s domestic politics. Why, if I recall correctly, Obumma even did it here in OZ a few years ago when he visited this country and gave a very undiplomatic and snide speech in QLD attacking Tony Abbott and his government’s climate action.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/greg-sheridan/weird-speech-makes-obama-odd-man-out/news-story/b197bf93805566b09d16b3e8c34fb040

    Obumma, together with the sleazy DNC, also tried to interfere in Israeli election back in early 2015 which failed spectacularly.

  198. BorisG

    He just happens to own Blenheim Palace.

    And who pays the bills? Can’t he sell it to get rich?

  199. It is funny how both Trump and the Cat Trumpkins are all acting exactly as if they were sleeper agents of Russia.

    If Sinc starts selling Catallaxy-branded vodka, I shall become particularly suspicious.

  200. Tel

    What was the alternative? To tell Poles etc that we have helped you gain independence but now you are on your own? A bit tricky.

    Supply the Poles with sufficient equipment that they can defend themselves, but don’t put foreign bases in Poland, especially no mid-range missiles.

  201. thefrolickingmole

    Remember Obummers intervention into English politics/Brexit.
    Pepperidge farm does..

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-brexit-uk-back-of-queue-for-trade-talks

    Barack Obama: Brexit would put UK ‘back of the queue’ for trade talks
    US president, visiting London, says ‘part of being friends is being honest’ as he lays out perils of leave vote in EU referendum

    Obama argued that he had a right to respond to the claims of Brexit campaigners that Britain would easily be able to negotiate a fresh trade deal with the US. “They are voicing an opinion about what the United States is going to do, I figured you might want to hear from the president of the United States what I think the United States is going to do.

    “And on that matter, for example, I think it’s fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement, but it’s not going to happen any time soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done”.

    He added: “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.

  202. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I didn’t know there were titles in America to inherit.

    Clinton, Bush, Kennedy, Rockefeller…

    Americans may as well have never kicked out King George.

  203. thefrolickingmole

    Excellent.

    This is how you treat shit allies and fairweather friends.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/12/how-trumps-nato-summit-meltdown-unfolded

    Ignoring the discussion about Georgia and Afghanistan, Trump charged forward, saying his predecessors in the White House had pushed for an increase by Europeans on defence spending and he was not going to put up with it. Dispensing with the usual diplomatic niceties, he pointed at Merkel, whom he dislikes on a personal level as well as over their policy differences, and said: “You, Angela.”

    The most stunning comment came from a source reported by Reuters: “He said they must or the United States would go it alone.

    This was greeted with shocked silence. It had seemed unthinkable: a US president threatening to that the US has regarded as a cornerstone of its military strategy for 69 years.

    No one appears to be disputing the words. What is being disputed is the interpretation. Reuters reported Trump as having threatened to quit Nato but then rescinded this. Macron insisted this had not been Trump’s meaning.

    But just as alarming was the apparent ultimatum. European leaders who have so far failed to reach Nato’s 2% are talking about achieving this years from now, not by January.

    Responding to the rising sense of panic in the room, the Nato secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, called an emergency meeting. The leaders of Afghanistan and Georgia were asked to leave as they were not Nato members. The US president’s demand for further discussion of spending took precedence over Ukrainian and Georgian accession to Nato and the Afghanistan government’s fight with the Taliban.

    The meeting then broke up, without Stoltenberg or any of the other European leaders offering a single concession.

    A series of press conferences with European leaders had been scheduled but were cancelled as the leaders quickly headed straight for the airport. Downing Street insisted May had never intended to hold a press conference, even though one with her was being trailed on Nato’s internal television network, complete with location and time, and some journalists had headed over to the briefing room.

  204. C.L.

    Something I noticed in one of the Daily Mail’s photos of the Blenheim dinner.
    On Trump’s limo (“The Beast”) is a number plate with a slogan
    Heh. A micro-troll.

  205. BorisG

    actually he is probably pretty rich, as his father was 224th richest person in Britain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spencer-Churchill,_11th_Duke_of_Marlborough

  206. Stimpson J. Cat

    It is funny how both Trump and the Cat Trumpkins are all acting exactly as if they were sleeper agents of Russia.
    If Sinc starts selling Catallaxy-branded vodka, I shall become particularly suspicious.

    Don’t you dare call me a Commie you dirty f$cking Commie.
    I bet you use a Russian Rake.

  207. Makka

    Another massive fail from Congressional Republicans.

    As usual, mUnty is way off the target. The aim of the public hearing was to show the US electorate what a smug, duplicitous, corrupt little turd the Swamp had leading investigations first protecting HRC and then stitching up Trump. He is so badly tainted, Mueller kicked his arse out of the team and now Strzok is an ex- FBI agent after a shameful exit.

    The Republicans succeeded brilliantly in that objective and the smarmy Strzok obliged by helping them. The Dems were badly damaged by Strzok yesterday because it will infuriate the conservatives and get them out to vote. The Blue Wave is doomed if there ever was one. Thanks Mr Strzok!

  208. BorisG

    Supply the Poles with sufficient equipment

    To expect small countries such as Poland or say Estonia to defend themselves on their own against a nuclear superpower whose standing army is bigger their entire population is ludicrous.

    And btw we have been there before.

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    To expect small countries such as Poland or say Estonia to defend themselves on their own against a nuclear superpower whose standing army is bigger their entire population is ludicrous.

    Yes we must not expect much from these craven Europeans.
    Expectations must be lowered accordingly.

  210. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Obama abandoned Poland and the missile defence shield in order to “reset” with Russia.

    Trump is a national hero in Poland and has indicated a high likely hood of establishing bases there. He has also provided arms to Ukraine and spoken out against the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 2.0 that the cowardly and duplicitous Kraut swines are engaged in. Trump has also bombed Russian positions in Syria.

    No US President has done more to fuck Russia over than Trump

    Meanwhile Trump is meant to be in cahoots with Putin.

  211. testpattern

    While the Tories fiddle over Brexit N.Ireland heats up –

    ‘Interesting take on the spate of rioting in Derry that’s been going on for three days now on Morning Ireland. A local journalist tells RTE that no one local knows what it’s all been about or what sparked it.

    The preliminary target appears to have been the tiny Protestant enclave on the city side of the River Foyle, and according to the BBC, Sinn Fein MLA Karen Mullan said she believes dissident republicans have been orchestrating recent attacks:

    “Our youth workers had to leave the area late last night for their own safety. Things got worse and the crowd has also got older.”

    Interesting context. However more striking is that the rioters used petrol bombs (something almost unheard of in the last 20 years). Only three where sent into the Fountain, the bulk was reserved for the cops when they turned up.’

    https://sluggerotoole.com/

  212. Zatara

    The Dems were badly damaged by Strzok yesterday because it will infuriate the conservatives and get them out to vote.

    The Dems did plenty of damage to themselves yesterday without Strozk’s help. It would take a complete moron to miss that every Dem in the place was running maximum interference for Strozk. Now why would they be taking sides and doing that if there was nothing to hide?

  213. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I might also add that Trump’s greatest attack on Russia has been his energy policy.

    Creating US energy independence is the worst thing that can happen to Russia.

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    Verified account

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    #Texas will overtake #Iran and #Iraq as the world’s third biggest “global” crude #oil producers this year, says HSBC
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    https://twitter.com/chris1reuters/status/1017359805961424896

    Magnificent.

  215. calli

    Something I noticed in one of the Daily Mail’s photos of the Blenheim dinner.
    On Trump’s limo (“The Beast”) is a number plate with a slogan …
    Heh. A micro-troll.

    Well spotted, C.L. The bugger dorsn’t miss a trick.

    Chuckle.

  216. Makka

    To expect small countries such as Poland or say Estonia to defend themselves on their own against a nuclear superpower whose standing army is bigger their entire population is ludicrous.

    NATO has been antagonizing Russia with it’s belligerent behavior for years. It has steadily grown itself around Russia’s borders, ever creeping and squeezing Russia on it’s doorstep. NATO, like any big Govt associated entity first ensures it’s own funding and growth. At tax payer expense.Yes, Russia will be mightily pissed off with that threatening behavior.

    Trump’s logic seems to be to normalize relations with Russia in order to remove much of that perceived threat. Of course there are a lot of heavily vested interests that must keep the Big Bad Russian Bear story going. The CIA and those NATO parasites come to mind. Russia does pose a threat but it is severely over hyped.

  217. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Holy crap. Look how drunk the EU President is:

    https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/1017526122379141122

  218. Slim Cognito

    I don’t think a visiting foreign leader should come into a country and interfere in their domestic politics. Its quite a dick move.

    Like when Obama suggested the Brits vote to remain in the EU. I remember the outrage clearly (not).

  219. The Republicans succeeded brilliantly in that objective and the smarmy Strzok obliged by helping them. The Dems were badly damaged by Strzok yesterday because it will infuriate the conservatives and get them out to vote. The Blue Wave is doomed if there ever was one. Thanks Mr Strzok!

    LOL Makka, all yesterday showed was that Gohmert and his mates are morons. They spent the entire time shouting and flailing. Plus Nunes skulked away in cowardice when he was asked a question about his role.

  220. vr

    Tiger mom has spoken.

    Kavanaugh Is a Mentor To Women
    I can’t think of a better judge for my own daughter’s clerkship.

    Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s jurisprudence will appropriately be dissected in the months ahead. I’d like to speak to a less well-known side of the Supreme Court nominee: his role as a mentor for young lawyers, particularly women. The qualities he exhibits with his clerks may provide important evidence about the kind of justice he would be.

    I’ve gotten to know this side of Judge Kavanaugh while serving on Yale Law School’s Clerkships Committee for most of the past 10 years. It also affects me personally: Last year my daughter accepted an appellate clerkship from Judge Kavanaugh, which was set to begin next month.

    A judicial clerkship is typically a one-year stint after law school. Federal appellate judges usually have three to four clerks at a time. Clerks help the judge to prepare for argument, analyze cases and write opinions.

    Many judges use ideological tests in hiring clerks. Judge Kavanaugh could not be more different. While his top consideration when hiring is excellence—top-of-the-class grades, intellectual rigor—he actively seeks out clerks from across the ideological spectrum who will question and disagree with him. He wants to hear other perspectives before deciding a case. Above all, he believes in the law and wants to figure out, without prejudging, what it requires.

    Judge Kavanaugh’s clerks are racially and ethnically diverse. Since joining the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in 2006, a quarter of his clerks have been members of a minority group. More than half, 25 out of 48, have been women. In 2014, all four were women—a first for any judge on the D.C. Circuit.

    In the past decade, I have helped place 10 Yale Law School students with Judge Kavanaugh, eight of them women. I recently emailed them to ask about their clerkship experiences. They all responded almost instantaneously. They cited his legendary work ethic (“He expected us to work really hard, but there was always one person working harder than us—the Judge”), his commitment to excellence (“he wants every opinion that comes out of his chambers to be perfect; it is not uncommon to go through 30-50 drafts”), his humility (“He can take a great joke just as easily as he can land one”), and his decency (“I’ve never seen him be rude to anyone in the building”).

    To a person, they described his extraordinary mentorship. “When I accepted his offer to clerk,” one woman wrote, “I had no idea I was signing up for a lifelong mentor who feels an enduring sense of responsibility for each of his clerks.” Another said: “I can’t imagine making a career decision without his advice.” And another: “He’s been an incredible mentor to me despite the fact that I’m a left-of-center woman. He always takes into account my goals rather than giving generic advice.”

    These days the press is full of stories about powerful men exploiting or abusing female employees. That makes it even more striking to hear Judge Kavanaugh’s female clerks speak of his decency and his role as a fierce champion of their careers.

    If the judge is confirmed, my daughter will probably be looking for a different clerkship. But for my own daughter, there is no judge I would trust more than Brett Kavanaugh to be, in one former clerk’s words, “a teacher, advocate, and friend.”

    Contrast this with RBG’s record which has also made news.

  221. None

    I just saw the ad of Pauline Hanson making a coffee while jabbering about the by election. What the hell why she putting into her mug?

  222. testpattern

    ‘Truscott’

    March 1945 a US Liberator crashed in 60m in Vansittaart, crew drowned. Japanese planes crashed there too. The Americans had their own morgue in Exmouth and repatriated most deceased airmen.

  223. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2762281, posted on July 13, 2018 at 1:55 pm
    It is funny how both Trump and the Cat Trumpkins are all acting exactly as if they were sleeper agents of Russia.

    Oh dear, you really do have reading comprehension difficulties don’t you, reactionary lackey?

  224. Oh dear, is monty trying to paint a picture that it is a wonderful time to be a Democrat loon?

  225. candy

    I don’t think a visiting foreign leader should come into a country and interfere in their domestic politics. Its quite a dick move.

    Well, the blimp has not made him feel welcome. so why not? Why should he tiptoe around the haters and Ms May has not been cordial, by the sounds of it.

  226. Chris

    monty.
    detesticle.
    Sad

  227. Mother Lode

    Is he still trying to persuade us that what Trump is doing is to the benefit of Russia?

    I remember when this all began.

    In the wake of the Hilderbeest’s upset loss (I mean ‘wake’ in two senses, and ‘upset’ in the sense of ‘well, I wasn’t’) she was a veritable kaleidoscope of blame: Deplorables, her own party, Comey, Obama, the MSM – all combinations and hues.

    Someone in the Dumocrats must have finally calmed down enough to realise one thing they were vulnerable on was…Russia: The deals, the money paid, the uranium deals etc. All of it could come out now. Best strategy? Accuse the other guy. Keep pushing and pushing and keep people focused on the other guy.

    The dossier was not meant to be used as a means of attacking Trump after he won because the Dimocrats expected to win. But it was fortunate that this theatrical prop could be re-tasked to cast aspersions on Trump after his win.

    But Monty still assures us: Any day now. Any daaaaaaaay…

  228. C.L.

    As usual, mUnty is way off the target. The aim of the public hearing was to show the US electorate what a smug, duplicitous, corrupt little turd the Swamp had leading investigations first protecting HRC and then stitching up Trump. He is so badly tainted, Mueller kicked his arse out of the team and now Strzok is an ex- FBI agent after a shameful exit.

    The Republicans succeeded brilliantly in that objective and the smarmy Strzok obliged by helping them.

    Correct.

  229. C.L.

    Holy crap. Look how drunk the EU President is:

    https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/1017526122379141122

    Another victory for Trump. His opposite number staggering around, shit-faced.

  230. Makka

    LOL Makka, all yesterday showed was that Gohmert and his mates are morons.

    Your problem mUnty is that you assume most people are as dumb as you and can’t see the corruption the Dems have been up to. That session yesterday will get out tens of thousands more angry Trump voters at the mid-terms. Conversely, he didn’t earn a single Dem vote not already accounted for. I hope they get Strzok on the tv more often. He’s a real Republican vote winner.

  231. Geriatric Mayfly

    C.L.
    You’re right about blue whales, Mayfly.
    There’s nothing smart or macho about killing these magnificent creatures.

    Thanks C.L. Often wonder what the world would be like if it was populated by wall to wall humans, as some here seem to envisage. Most species made extinct in the struggle for territory, exploitation as ‘commodities’ and because they serve no purpose. Except rats, mice and cockroaches which cling to human habitation with steadfast determination. What a wonderful world.

  232. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Trump looked repulsed by that drunken bum.

  233. Cactus

    Cassie of Sydney & thefrolickingmole re: raising Obama as interfering in domestic politics in Australia, Israel and elsewhere.

    I agree he did. It was wrong for him to do so and I presume we called it out at the time. I’m just saying that does not make it right for Trump to do it. I have read a few people say however that playing by the rules has not really worked for the right.

    Trump has praised Bojo as PM material. Said that PM May has a shoddy strategy and deal with the EU. I just don’t think any foreign leader who is not directly exposed should be intervening like this. I am conflicted by it however because I believe most of the things he said to be true. I think he should have been more diplomatic here. I guess that’s not his style.

    He has really thrown May under a bus. I don’t know how given the past 2 weeks of events she can survive as PM.

  234. Baldrick

    Holy crap. Look how drunk the EU President is:

    This is what happens to EU socialist leftards when Trump says he’s no longer going to pay for their free lunches.

  235. Geriatric Mayfly

    Former police commissioner Bob Atkinson, who has led a review of Queensland’s youth justice system, says the focus must be on prevention and diversion programs.His recommendations include keeping minor offences by young people out of the courts, more flexible options to keep young Queenslanders engaged in education, and support for parents as early as the prenatal stage.
    There’s the beginning of many of the problems. A couple of strokes of the rattan might bring a satisfactory conclusion once the little ferals start their capers.

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